Pardon My Take - Ryan Fitzpatrick, Andrew Whitworth, NFL Week 11 Picks And Preview, Fyre Fest And The Bengals Might Be Dead

Episode Date: November 17, 2023

Joe Burrow is injured and what shouldve been the best TNF was a huge bummer. Ravens offense looked good and we had drone delays (00:00:00-00:08:57). Week 11 Picks and Preview for every game including ...memes trying to spinzone himself into a 3rd string running back, can the Rams win a game, Browns starting DTR and more (00:08:57-01:07:32). Fantasy fuccbois (01:07:32-01:18:18). Andrew Whitworth and Ryan Fitzpatrick join us in studio to talk about TNF, what they miss from the the league, quarterback and line play and tons more (01:18:18-02:05:02). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:05:02-02:12:23).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:02:51 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, November 17th, and the Bengal season is over. That was a bummer. It was a bummer. On drone Thursday, nonetheless. Oh my god. It was the bummer. On drone Thursday, nonetheless. Oh my God. It was the pageantry was incredible from the, and I felt we had Obama remote controlling
Starting point is 00:03:10 an army of drones. I think we had two that crashed. Yeah, there's two. There's two drone delays. Mark Andrews went out. Lamar Jackson got his ankle rolled up on, and then Joe Bro looks to be out for a very long time. Uh, it's a UCL injury couldn't grip the football just the biggest bummer.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Like I sat there and I was like, this we've dealt with so many quarterback injuries this year. And the Bengals have no margin for error because of the way they started their season. And now it looks like we will not get the Bengals or Joe burrow, more importantly, Joe burrow in the playoffs and get to see what they could do. It's a complete and utter bummer. Yes, a huge night for as a blank fan. I'm seeing a lot of as a Ravens fan, I'm sorry to see what's happened to Joe burrow as an avid Steelers fan. I'm sorry to see what happened to Joe burrow. Just support pouring out from across the league.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's touching to see that. Yes. Yes. Actually, as we were taping this Jake Browning did score a touchdown. Yeah. So Jake Browning the future and unfortunately for the bangles, RG3 has already committed himself to trying out for the Browns if they'll have him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:23 So he put himself his name in the hat for that. Although there was a picture of Joe Flacco on an airplane going up to Cleveland. How what a story that would be, huh? Oh, if Joe Flacco came in, handed the ball off for 90% of the time through 12 passes a game and the Browns won the Super Bowl. Yeah. I think that's what I'm rooting for now. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:42 It would be incredible. But yeah, we have to, we have to come to grips, no Joe Burrow probably for a long time. It does feel like he's going to be out for a while. Like he, the body language, he was pissed. I think they showed him on the sideline coming out of the half, talking to Sam Hubbard. He was like, can you go? And he's like, nope.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And he had a mysterious wrist brace on that the Bengals social media team accidentally tweeted out and Chris Long did a great job. He actually found the play from last week, play two. He got squashed by alignment. And so Chris was all on top of that, found it. And then so we he might have had a pre-existing injury to that hand, he re-injured it or injured it further. And then we got our favorite guy, Mike Florio, who will be on the show on Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:05:34 We figured thanksgiving, gotta have your crazy uncle that you don't really agree with, but you love anyway. So Florio will be on the show next week. But Florio said, meanwhile, the NFL injury reporting system is a joke as evidenced by Burles' wrist injury being hidden. The joke will be on the NFL when Congress calls a hearing or prosecutor convenes a grand jury.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yep. I would love to see that. I love it when Mike really syncs his teeth into a story and thinks way, way outside the box. I and listen, if Congress got their act together and brought Roger Gidele under testimony and just grilled him about the injury reporting process, I actually think that would have bipartisan support. Yeah, I think everyone can get behind that. There's like, there's only a few common enemies that we have left in America. There's the
Starting point is 00:06:17 NCAA. There's Roger Gidele. We used to have Osam Bin Laden, but the events the last couple days, I'm not so sure about it anymore. Yeah. But yeah, if you want to get people behind you, just bring Rodger Gidellup and make him testify, under oath. Yes. I mean, you said Chris Long. Was the one that found that? Yeah, Chris Long found it. Chris Long. Chris Long. Like tape study. Chris Long. Chris Long went. He saw the picture of Joe Burrow that was deleted and he went back to the Texans game and he found it play two in the Texans game. He got smushed in a bang bang play with his offensive lineman and you can see Joe Burrow
Starting point is 00:06:54 like was shaking the hand on play two. Chris Long your number one source for right wing news. Yeah, he got it. He's dude, he did the work. So yeah, as for the as for the Ravens. So Joe Burrow doesn't play defense. The Bengals defense have their own issues. I know the game flow changes when Joe Burrow's not in the game, but the Ravens offense looked awesome. Yeah, they look really good. I and a banged up Lamar. Yes, Lamar went down a couple times where it looked like
Starting point is 00:07:22 old Lamar were been able to keep running. So I don't think he's going to be 100%. He was protecting himself. It felt like, but he was throwing the ball around the yard. Oh, no, Beckham looks good. 116 yards for him. They were running the ball. They had the Ravens are like all the way back where they now have many backs who can get you yards.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Yeah. And they said, you know, Keaton Mitchell, Gus Edwards and Lamar Jackson all running. I did just a sales score touch on. No, he didn't. This might be the him in for a play. I don't know if he scored a touch on. You remember a couple of years ago when every Raven got hurt. I know what happens every year.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yes. But a couple of years ago it was like weeks one and two were just crazy for him. At the time towards the end of the season, we're like, holy shit. Are the Ravens actually just geniuses by getting all their injuries out of the way early? Best free agency signings is getting a guy back from the IR. So are the Ravens gonna be peaking at exactly the right time? We'll see what happens with Mark Andrews.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Hopefully that's not a long-term issue because he is very important to their offense. Like that first drive, they marched right down the field. Yeah, why do you think Mark Andrews doesn't necessarily get as much credit as like a Travis Kelsey? Mm. Cause Travis Kelsey is better. Yeah, that's probably true.
Starting point is 00:08:29 But Mark Andrews is pretty damn good. He is very good. I don't think he's underrated actually. I would agree too. I also didn't realize until like a few weeks ago that he's a diabetic and has to get his insulin tested every time he comes off the field. Are you serious?
Starting point is 00:08:41 Like, you know that? Yes. There was a, I think it was maybe inside the NFL who's mic'd up every time he comes off he has to get his his test to see where his ins and levels. That's great. Crazy. So yeah, the Ravens look good though. The Ravens look good. And I'm just bummed about Joe. Yeah, it sucks. It sucks. For every for a fan of football, it's just bad. It's bad because you want to see like the game is more fun when Joe Burrow is playing because he's awesome. Yeah, and now the maybe what we'll get to when we do
Starting point is 00:09:10 our weekend preview, we got an all-time memes, desperation spin zone, but memes. This maybe there's a spot open. You got to just jump like six teams. Maybe there's a spot open. Gotta win Sunday. Gotta win Sunday. We'll get to that. All right, let's do it. Let's's a spot open. Gotta win Sunday. Gotta win Sunday. I will get to that.
Starting point is 00:09:26 All right, let's do it. Let's get to all of our picks and preview. We're gonna talk about every single game on Sunday. Then we got Ryan Fitzpatrick, Andrew Whitworth, and Firefest of the Week taking into the weekend. Okay, Weeks, Week 11 picks and preview time. It is brought to you by our friends at Uber Eats. Delivered with Uber Eats is football season and you can get almost, almost anything you need for game day delivered
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Starting point is 00:10:33 gonna get some milkshakes tonight delivered with Uber Eats. So get almost almost anything. Order now with Uber Eats. Okay boys, week 11. maybe not the greatest card ever. We do have the Monday night game, the Eagles and the Chiefs, Super Bowl rematch, everything else, there's some good games. I actually'm gonna say maybe this is gonna be our chaos week in the pitching hour. I was looking at the schedule and on paper,
Starting point is 00:10:58 nothing that really jumps out to me of being like, oh god damn, I can't wait to see that game during the day, but we're getting great prime time game, so let's not forget that. And you know that some of these games are going to have very surprise endings to them. Like they're going to be some teams that get upset this week. Yes, yes, there's going to be some stupid shit that happens. So let's jump into it. We'll get to our pixelator. But let's start with the best early game because it means the most in terms of the half-sea north,
Starting point is 00:11:25 the playoff picture, all four teams in the ass, sea north right now are in the playoffs. Oh, no, sorry, the Bengals are not, which that was stupid of me because we just watched Bengals Ravens, you heard us talk about it, but let's get to it. Steelers at Browns, to Shawn Watson out for the year, DTR starting, who is not good. I know that PJ Walker is also not good. And I guess I could see the reasoning of like, Hey, you want to see what you got with the young guy, but DTR is not good. He's fun. He's definitely fun. In a bad way. In a bad browns fan. Yeah. He throws the ball backwards. But I think first things first,
Starting point is 00:12:00 we should, we should talk about the injury to Josh Shawn Watson because this sounds like he's the toughest guy on planet Earth, according to his agent that texted Tom Palacero. So according to OTP, he said Watson wanted to be shot up in an attempt to play through his shoulder and ankle injuries. He also reported that Watson received multiple medical opinions and they told him if he took a hit to the same spot his shoulder could fall apart. I love it His shoulder could disintegrate his shoulder could explode. It's broken his body would be broken. It's like Juju's knee right? Yeah, it could it could just disintegrate and then you give it time to the way that
Starting point is 00:12:39 We're still waiting it could happen at any time anytime. That's the thing about it But with the with the shoulder he's got like a fracture where it pops back in, like at the very tip of the upper arm or whatever that thing's called. So, uh, it sounds to me like it's an injury that he's had. I know he says it's a new one, but you get that injury when your shoulder pops out and then it pops back in, which is exactly how we heard his shoulder previously. It also sounds like to Sean Watson is going to be in the running for worse contracts of all time. Yeah, I wonder a million dollars guaranteed
Starting point is 00:13:09 has not been able to stay on the field. The Browns have a roster that is superbowl worthy and now he's missing the rest of the year and they're going to be having to fend off the AFC North with DTR or PJ Walker. Yeah, I have an idea for their offense because the running game's good. The defense is like one of the best that we've ever seen. But as far as passing the ball,
Starting point is 00:13:30 we're if they just put Miles Garrett in at tight end or receiver. And David and Joe is pretty damn good. But wait, here's the twist to it. You throw a jump ball. You let the safety intercept it. And then Miles Garrett comes down and hits the safety as hard as you can for some positive yards positive yards every time. Yeah, this game is um, I don't know what to think about it because I feel like the Steelers like they can't really move the ball, especially against a good brown defense. The Browns are not gonna be able to move the ball with TTR. They're gonna load up the box. It's gonna be ugly. It is TTR they're gonna load up the box. It's gonna be ugly. It is One of the lowest totals we've had in the last 10 years the only one lower was actually the grapple game
Starting point is 00:14:11 since Browns So right now I think it's sitting at 33 which is crazy for an NFL game that is wild And I think they if you had to if you put a gun on my head and was like which side are you gonna pick? It would be the under you can't take the over in this game. No, you can't. I probably will, just as a personal challenge, but you can't. You can't. Like a normal person would not. You should not.
Starting point is 00:14:31 You should not. I'm not endorsed. 32 and a half. It's 32 and a half right now. You know what, the Steelers are Nate Diaz. Yeah. Just get the shit kicked out of them for like three quarters and they get stronger as they get worse.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Yeah, they just want to be down, going into the fourth quarter by one score and they're in perfect spot. Give them a shot. I'll, excuse me. I also have a really sad stat for the Browns. In the last decade, this is a 55th time they're starting a backup quarterback. That is very sad. And it's even sadder than that because for two straight years, Baker Mayfield made every start.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yep. So it's really like eight years and 55 five times they've had a backup Not their week one starter started game. That's pretty remarkable Do you think people are coming around to the take that Baker Mayfield was the best thing It's ever happened to the Browns and they should never have let them go they so Browns fans I think are thinking that but more than that and This is now I think there's multiple teams who are having the same thought. Giants, jets, browns, browns have a real case for it.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Why do they get rid of Josh Dobbs? Yeah. That's like, there are so many teams right now being like Josh Dobbs could fix all of our problem. He could. It would get the Jeff's had Josh Dobbs. They would be a playoff team. I would say with Josh Dobbs right now, the browns would have more wins than they do with Deshan Watson play. Yeah, so and they had him on the roster,
Starting point is 00:15:47 I think all the way up until August, right? Yep. So that's, Josh Dobbs is basically the guy that everyone looks to and is like, he could solve everything. Yep, you see they dusted off the old, what if Tom Brady comes back to you? For the Browns?
Starting point is 00:16:01 For the Browns, yeah. You think Tom Brady would wanna live in Cleveland, Hank? No. Why not? I don't even, I mean, he's, it's been a while since he's played. I actually think that if LeBron played quarterback for the Browns, they would be better. Yeah, there's run wildcat.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah. DTR. Sorry, I have a call for a canker rid of. It's like a small cough. I'm not sick, but I can't, it's like you and he gets something stuck in your throat cough. I can't get rid of it. I'm gonna try to cough really loud. What are you looking at Max?
Starting point is 00:16:28 There we go. Yeah, it doesn't always feel like no, I ate a dumpling a minute ago, and it's fucking stuck in my throat. No fun when the rabbits got the gun. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Okay. Josh stops with fix everything. What kind of dumpling did you eat? Donnie made him. Damn, that sounds good. We're getting Chinese in a minute anyway. Um Uber eats. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay, so This game's gonna stink, but I'm gonna love it. I think it is it's gonna stink in a very Steelers way Yeah, you know what this and a Browns should actually be a game where the Steelers should out game the Browns They should on paper because They've the Steelers have kind of fucked themselves because their defense is so good
Starting point is 00:17:06 That they usually don't have like a full field to work with even if they go kick a fuel go right So now they can put together drive from like their own maybe 35 yard line Yeah, and just go kick a field go that's positive yards every single time. Yeah, I'm as opposed to just getting the ball on the 35 yard line kicking from right there It's this is one of those games that if someone has 10 points, it's going to feel like an insurmountable lead. It is, if you, if you're drunk enough, the Steelers are going to look like Iowa this weekend. Yeah. And um, shut up. And the Browns will probably look like Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yeah. Shut up to Danny Smith. Danny Smith, all-time football guy, special teams coach of the Steelers. You remember on the last play, they intercepted it, ran to the sidelines. Yes. And the coach fell over. Yeah, he got just absolutely got destroyed. Yeah. That was Danny Smith.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Danny Smith, you might recognize he's the the shorter guy who's always chewing like twice the amount of gum that Pete Carroll is. Mm-hmm. All-time gum, gum guy. So he tore every muscle in his rotator cuff. Oh my God. Pop back up. He's staying on the sidelines.
Starting point is 00:18:00 You can't get that. And the Sean is in playing. And the Sean's not playing. Danny Smith's shoulder could fall apart at any given moment. And the Sean's not't playing and the Sean's not playing. Danny Smith's shoulder could fall apart at any given moment And the Sean's not playing and the Sean's not playing. Oh Jake your nerd nugget Pittsburgh's 28 victories in one score game Since the start of the 2020 season are tied for the most in the NFL who also it's a shame that PJ Walker's not playing because he tweeted Can't wait to meet you baby girl. Oh, so he's he's got my pet him still because he's the back of a lot of his he might odds are going to be juicy. Yeah. So somebody to keep an eye on if he plays the rest of
Starting point is 00:18:32 the season. Okay. That's a good way. Now is the baby born. I don't know. I think that's a pregnancy announcement. Oh, he's just bragging. He had sex. Yeah. They might not even know that they're pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. can't wait. Can't wait to meet my daughter. Her daughter broke. And then he tweeted it. I don't think you tweet when the water breaks. Oh, no. Okay, so maybe he's going to be a dad. Yeah, that's like a nerve-wracking time where like,
Starting point is 00:18:55 the baby comes out, okay? Yeah. Like, let me take the Twitter and be like, can't wait to meet you in like two hours if everything goes okay. That's fair. Yeah. All right, Raiders at Dolphins, through this on there,
Starting point is 00:19:07 Antonio Pierce got the Raiders 2-0 in his interim head coaching. They did beat Tommy DeVito and Zach Wilson. And now we have Miami off of by. So what you're saying is the Raiders might be frauds. The Raiders are not good. I am, so I'm ready, I think, and it is just a theory. I think I'm ready to take Miami off the fraud list.
Starting point is 00:19:30 They won't do it this week, but I'm gearing up for them to be off the fraud list because I'm thinking that their defense is gonna start playing really well. Vic Fangio, you know, a couple months under the belt, Jalen Ramsey back, guys healthy. I'm now on, take Miami off, fraud watch, fraud watch. Interesting. So what do they have to do against the Raiders though?
Starting point is 00:19:52 Because they gotta be the Raiders by 21 plus. And they have to, if they hold the Raiders to under 10 points. Yeah. They, I looked at their schedule, they have the jets on Black Friday, which I would remind Miami fans that I said that the jets would beat the dolphins at that time I no longer think that and then
Starting point is 00:20:11 They have Christmas Eve they play the Cowboys and then I think the week 17 they play the Ravens So those are the last two chances to fully get off rod watch But I'm I'm itching to get them off rod watch I think they're gonna start turning the defense around and the defense going to start playing really well. And with that offense, I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm feeling like I'm going to push the, the button and say no longer fraud. I, I read a, an article is basically a long profile of Mike McDaniel. And God damn do I love that guy. He just seems like the best dude ever.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And Dizzy went up to the podium the other day and they were talking about how it was raining. And like one of the journalists said, like with all this rain that we're getting, and he's like, oh, it's raining, how fortuitous for earth. Who? He's like, he's like Mitch Hedberg, if you gave him a head, go to one lineers.
Starting point is 00:20:56 This little one lineers here and there. Big news for the dolphin, so two of God's hair did. He did. He looks like fucking Drake. Yes, per our colleague, Nikki Smokes on Twitter, our Q looks like fucking Drake. Yes per our colleague Nikki smokes on Twitter Our QB is fucking Drake. Yeah huge news to a leave news McDonald's McDonald's this is confused. I don't care. I'm glad to say that. I don't care
Starting point is 00:21:17 I'm glad that the Raiders fired McDonald's. Yeah, I'll say whatever I want to say make the McDonald's He also there was a reporter asked about H.A.N. and he was like, well, how much money you got in fantasy? And just flipped it on him. I think he's gonna play though. Yeah. And another reason to maybe get them on Fraudwatch. I'm feeling it.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I'm feeling it. The Raiders are not good. But they're two and a, under the new version of the Raiders. The new, it's got me to be doing Zach Wilson. Yes, true. The new look Raiders. Antonia and that is the, he's the only Antonio to ever coach in the NFL. Oh, About that. So Antonio's are a thousand percent winning percentage. Antonio's stand up. You'll get a lot of Antonio's. No, it's a powerful
Starting point is 00:21:57 year Anthony. Yeah. Jake, you're nerd nugget. This is a good one. Oh, let us be the judge. Okay. Since the start of last season, the dolphins are 6 and 0 and have averaged 41 points per game with Kevin Harlan on the call. Oh, two of Tongavaloa has thrown 20 touchdown passes, averaged 332 yards per game, and he returns to the booth in Miami this week. I thought they never won with Kevin Harlan. That was Frank's thought. They put up 70. They put up, they put up points. It doesn't make sense at all. Frank told me otherwise. Dolphins might be good. They might be off fraud wash. Yeah. Kevin Harlan. 50, 53rd man. 54th man. Here's a stinky game. Giant City commanders. Yeah. Very stinky. Tommy DeVito. We get to watch Tommy DeVito again. There, I've become accustomed to the insult graphic
Starting point is 00:22:48 that goes around about the former NFL coaches, are the former Washington coaches that are now head coaches at the NFL, whether you have LaFlora, McVeigh, McDaniel now, Kyle Shanahan, and then now people are saying that the coordinator is slow from the Texans is gonna be on that list. I don't know what happened to make it go reviral again, but now it's everywhere. and then now people are saying that the coordinator is slow from the Texans is gonna be on that list. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I don't know what happened to make it go reviral again, but now it's everywhere. Like every major news publication is talking about it. Yeah, I get it. We had a, you know what? Our head coach was Mike Shanahan. You think they were gonna fire Mike Shanahan and then promote Kyle Shanahan to be that coach?
Starting point is 00:23:20 That wasn't gonna happen, but I have to deal with more of this bullshit, which is fine. Well, yeah, I was gonna say the one person you can't, I can't give you sympathy because literally every, I think the CBS Sports account lives like their entire social media plan is to insult the bears. Yeah, that is true. You do the 4,000 yard passer, they do the receivers, they do everything. Yeah, but I don't know who started it this week, but it came out of nowhere. It's usually CBS Sports. Yes, like Sports Center's on it, ESPN's all it's weird that they're taking this week to do it.
Starting point is 00:23:45 But at least we get Tommy DeVito this weekend. He's gonna be fun to watch. Tommy DeVito, yeah. Good job, Tommy. Yeah, there was a, I don't really have anything to say about Tommy DeVito other than I'm rooting for him, I think. So they did a profile on him and they asked him
Starting point is 00:24:03 what his favorite food was. What do you think Tommy DeVito's favorite food is? Well, it's chicken par with chicken chicken chicken chicken par with vodka sauce. Yeah, his hidden talent. What do you think is hidden talented? That's racist. Shhh. Throwing.
Starting point is 00:24:16 No, it's not not throwing. Not throwing anything. Yeah. No, it's making art. That's what you say if you really get it art. Well, if you watch it, tell me DeVito. Listen, beauties in the eye of the beholder, a Tommy DeVito quarterback game could be considered art. Making art that's what you say if you really get it art well if you watch it's on me to veto listen Beauty's in the eye of the beholder. Mm-hmm. It's on me to veto quarterback game could be considered art
Starting point is 00:24:30 That's true Favorite movies. What do you think his favorite movies are good fellows? No, no Too fast to too fast too furious and bad boys actually great taste from Tommy to okay fantastic taste And if he gets three dinner guests, who do you think he'd want to invite? Hmm. James Gandalfini. Yeah. No, it's Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Al Capone, and Floyd Mayweather.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Oh. Money, money, money, money. Love that. He's love that. He's love that. Also, I think the commanders are gonna win this game. I do think there's the ability this game could be just some fuck shit happening,
Starting point is 00:25:03 like the last one, where the commanders, the giant student score for the last 38 minutes of the game in 114 to 7. Yeah. But Sam, how the giants game that game I bring it up because that might have been the tipping point for him. He took six sacks in that game since then the last three games had seven total. So maybe that was the game that he's like, hey, I should stop doing this. Yeah, he's got a lot better at staying in the pocket,
Starting point is 00:25:26 just the right amount of time and get rid of the ball. But I'm not, I'm, but no means confident. I think the commanders are nine and a half, 10 point favorites, right? Right. They should not be nine and a half point favorites to anybody in the, I don't care who's playing quarterback. You see, it's, it's nine right now.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Nine right now. Okay. Well, it's coming. Yeah. So it's trending in the correct direction I believe I'm not confident in this game like anybody either one of these two teams could win I think we're going to win could be some function, but I am not I would not be shocked if the giants ended up winning yes Nerd nugget First off with like to correct myself that's that with Kevin Harlan was with two a starting okay Dolphins that was the
Starting point is 00:26:04 The concussion game the way that where the guy made fun of was just, that was the concussion game. The way that, where the guy made fun of me, Dolphins Jetson. Oh, it's concussion fingers. Yeah. That was funny when that guy did that too. No, it wasn't. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 00:26:13 So that's the one game with Kevin Harlan the last two years when they lost. But that doesn't count with the two as stats. Anyways, commanders quarterback Sam Howell has thrown for 2,952 yards so far this season. The most by a Washington quarterback through 11 career games, more than 500 yards roughly, then second place on that list, Robert Griffin III. Sam Howe.
Starting point is 00:26:31 By far, the best 11 game quarterback in Washington history. I might have just jumped past the whole, is he the guy conversation? I'm ready to ask if he's elite. As many insult graphics have been going around, there's a lot of, there's as many insult graphics that been going around. There's a lot of, there's a lot of complimentary graphics going around about Sam Howe. He's first and big time throws.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Do you know what a big time throw is? Oh, it's, yeah, it's a big time throw. I actually, it's road big time. When you throw a big time. Yeah, I think it's over 20 yards. I don't know what the actual definition is. It's an area. But goddamn, when like,
Starting point is 00:27:01 Pro football focus says he's first and big time throws, I'm like, that's a great stat. It's a big time throw. Okay, when like, pro football focus says he's first and big time throws him, like, that's a great stat. It's a big time throw. Uh, okay. Next up, Chargers of Packers, I hate this game so much because the Packers are bad, but the Chargers shouldn't be favored on the road against anyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I was looking at this and I was like, are there, are there, we still given the Chargers credit for being the Chargers? It's crazy. Like, I, I know the Chargers are better than than the packers But if you tell me you have to put your life on the line for the chargers to be able to like Manoeuvre a road game and win by exactly three or more I Couldn't do that. No, no. I would like something weird is gonna happen This might be the most lopsided fan to fan ratio of all time Do you think there are any charges fans that are making the trip to Green Bay for this game?
Starting point is 00:27:47 Probably not. I think there's, No, people still go to like, people still like to go to Lambo. I think the most cathedral. Yeah, I think the weirdest like fan to fan would have to be like Chargers Panthers. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:59 Well, it's like, I don't really care about seeing this stadium. Like if you're a Chargers fan, you definitely circle the schedule and be like, this one, let's go take a trip to Lambo. Yeah, it's Lambo, but it's also mid-November. It's right before Thanksgiving. I think there's a lot of stuff
Starting point is 00:28:14 adding up against the charges on that. I would be shocked if there were more than 500 Chargers fans, that true Chargers fans from out of town that make this trip. Yeah, I like trying to think what other ones. Maybe Chargers Vikings. You're town that make this trip. Yeah, like trying to think what other ones maybe chargers Vikings You're like Cardinals bills Yeah, how many Cardinals fans would go to Buffalo like in the way if they played in December
Starting point is 00:28:32 I bet you there are a lot of people that are Cardinals fans that are from Buffalo That retired and moved to Arizona though. I feel like they go to Florida. Yeah, I Don't know if you like this coast, Florida, and then everything west, maybe charge, Zona, chargers, giants, probably not a lot of people. Chargers, although then you're going to New York City. Yeah, it's a direct flight. You got to think of the places that like have nothing like, you're like, I gotta go to this place. Are you going to this game? Yeah, I wonder what that would be. Maybe it might be Chargers commanders. I think char, I think to this game. Yeah, I wonder what that would be. Maybe it might be Chargers Commanders.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I think Chargers, Chargers Panthers. Yeah. Chargers Panthers feels like who wants to go to a stadium is even boring. Yeah, if you're a Chargers fan that's going to this game, like traveling specifically to Green Bay for this game, let us know. It is. It is. Very interesting. It is. Learning about you. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Nerd nugget for this game. Packers quarterback, Jordan Love leads the NFL in completions of 30 plus yards This season was 17 Matthew staffer guys 16 Sam Hall and Brock pretty rip on with 14. Oh, that sounds like a great stat. Okay. All right. Next up bears at lions Justin fields is back That's all I got it. No, I have more but but it's, I have some things that I shouldn't believe in, but I do. The bears are, the bears are not as bad as people think they are. They are, they're the worst teams in the league, which are the Panthers, the Giants, maybe the Patriots, the Cardinals now, the Kyler's back, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I think the Bears are a step above that. They get lumped in there. They've actually been playing really good defense. Yeah. The last five weeks, their run D is ranked one. Their total yards against is ranked sixth. Their explosive plays against is ranked first. And their third down percentage is 12th.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Like they're playing good defense. Justin Fields playing competent offense will be the big question mark. And obviously the Lions are much better all over the field. But like the Bears aren't as bad as I probably say they are and the media says they are. I would agree with that. They're just a little bit better than really, really bad.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Their defense is good enough to not get totally embarrassed anymore. And this is sort of the season they were back. They were very, very bad. Very, very bad. And now that what are they? Three and three in their last six? Three and three in their last six. And this is the part that makes me nervous because I am nervous that if their defense plays
Starting point is 00:30:55 well and keeps playing well, that they're going to keep Matt Eberfluss. I don't think so. He's so weird. Have you ever, I know that we've said a lot of things about Eberfluss on the show. He's, do we ever fluss? Have we ever talked about just how weird he is? He's just weird looking. He's just a strange guy.
Starting point is 00:31:08 It's a cat guy. They asked him, yeah, that's a great way to describe. That's what they need to know. He's a cat guy after the game against the Panthers. They were like, what, what do you have up your sleeve or what do you have up your sleeve? He's like, what do you have up your sleeve? He laughed like he was the Joker.
Starting point is 00:31:22 He's a weird guy. He also, if they keep Matt Eberfluss and then draft the new quarterback, that will be, I think it's 25 years going right now that the Bears have never had a coach quarterback on the same wavelength. Timeline, timeline, like bring a new coach, bring a new quarterback same time.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I don't think there's any chance they keep Eberfluss. They're defense playing well. What if they beat the Lions? I don't think they will, but what if either loose. I their defense playing well. What if they beat the lions? I don't think they will, but what if? What if they demote him to defensive coordinator and then bring in a head? I'd be finally, I feel like coordinator right now. I feel like he'd stay.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Yeah, no, he is the defense coordinator. And so his defense. Our defense coordinator left and no one knows why. His, I do know why it's very funny. I won't say, oh, come on. I'll tell you after. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Well, shit, do you know why the running back guy left? That one I do know as well. Is it funny? Not as funny. Okay, both aren't really, I wouldn't say either are funny. They're funny in like the Bears or a joke of a franchise. The defense coordinator was using the women's bathroom and refused to stop.
Starting point is 00:32:22 No, okay, that would be funny though. I was sworn to secrecy. I also like, there was so much weird shit that was said during that, that I don't wanna say anything publicly because then like, what if I'm wrong? And then also in the weird shit, like the whole FBI and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Who the fuck knows? On the line side, you know Malcolm R. I also don't even know. I just said that to say, to sound cool. You gotta be going. Yeah. I also don't even know. I just said that to say to sound cool. You got me going. Yeah. I did that on. I yeah, I was just like, I've been telling people like,
Starting point is 00:32:50 yeah, I know why you know why and then trying to get them to tell me why, but I don't know why. It's old trick. Hank, you got me, you think I knew? Yeah. Yeah. That was a good prank. Yeah, I'll do.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Art of the deal. Learn it. Read it. Rod Rigo, you remember him from Hard Knocks? Yeah. Middle line backer on the lines. You know he switched a fullback? No. So this is what the lines did. So they had Kubinda at fullback and then he got injured and then they just took another linebacker because Kubinda was also a linebacker that got moved. Yeah. So now Rod Rigo is playing fullback and he's
Starting point is 00:33:19 like one of the better fullbacks in the league right now. That guy's a dog. He's a dog. Absolute a dog, absolute dog. Totally. We should, when should we drop the watch list for the Lomand trophy? You wanna do that next week? Should we wait till the after the season? No, the watch list though. All the watch lists are coming out right now.
Starting point is 00:33:36 So like the Highsman watch list. Oh, okay, yeah, then we do it next week. Okay, all right, next week. Next week for that for the Lomand trophy. Yeah. So yeah, dip up, get your diaper on if your lines fan this weekend. Yeah. Uh, I don't think the bears gonna win, but their defense is playing better.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I want to give him credit for being not as bad as the worst. That's really what it. That's baby steps. Yeah. No longer the worst. They're, their defense is actually good. They have a good defense. Sorry. There's like, I have this tumbling in my throat. I can you get me another water hank? There's five teams that I would say the bears could confidently four teams of bears could comfortably beat Cardinals Panthers, hunters, Giants, there's water right there. There's water right there giants
Starting point is 00:34:20 Commanders, they did beat you beat us Raiders, yep, if Josh was still the code, huh kick the shit out of them Right, what about the Rams? I have thought on the Rams when we get to it. Okay Jake do do do nerd nugget of the week That that's the sound that we're doing. Yeah, I just made it up New jinkle. Okay, that was the like the breaking New jinkle laugh. That was the breaking news, jinkle. What instrument was that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:48 It's just like when you watch TV, it's like, doodoo doodoo. Is that the sound that they used to make when like nights would come into the arena? To chop them in, maybe. On that, that I was drinking some water and I couldn't react. You could say we're yuck.
Starting point is 00:35:00 I was shocked by it. Yeah. I've never. I didn't hear it. Do it again for Hank. Dude, dude, dude, nerd nugget of the week. You did your own... Englikes.
Starting point is 00:35:10 You did your own entrance music. I don't know if Hank likes it. Got the heck out of it. He got it all on the... Hank gave me a look when it happened. Hank would suggest strongly otherwise. Hank's head nog was... That's a thing.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I'll have some AWLs who like it. Okay, and something made it. But hey, yeah, that's podcasting. Yeah, that's a thing. I'll have some AWLs who like it. Okay, and something made it. But hey, yeah, that's podcasting. Yeah, that is all of it. Some people ate it. That's a fact, Jake. For the first time since 1979, three pairs of brothers are set to appear in the same NFL game.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Amon Rott and Equanimous St. Brown, Romeo and Julianna Quara, and Penneia Noah's Soule. Whoa, that is wild shake. That is actually the near nugget of the weed. It is very cool. Do you think when they named them Romeo and Julian, that's like a little bit weird? Yeah, well they expected it to be a girl.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Yeah, for sure. For sure. Maybe they'll still phone them. We only had one name. I was supposed to be Jackie if I was a girl. Jackie? Yeah. Now we're just gonna have to close.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Jackie Marsh. That fuck you. I kinda like Jackie. Yeah, I'm thinking about to Marge. I'd fuck you. I kinda like Jackie. Yeah, I'm thinking about it, Jackie. I mean, I was a little bit in the commercial. Yeah, you look good. Yeah, I'd fuck you for sure, Jackie Marsh. Yeah, so I think that's a pretty sick nerd nugget.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Yeah, that is, it is. So three brothers, huh? Same field, three brothers. Assuming they're all in the active roster, but. It's like saving brother. Yeah, it was gonna save if two of them get injured. We got to get the go to the book set out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Yeah. Okay. Next game Cowboys at Panthers. All I wrote for this game is maybe take the Panthers. Question mark. Yeah. So my only note on this game was we've got coach taking back play calling duties because Frank Reich, much like Mike McCarthy used to do,
Starting point is 00:36:46 he, you pass around the play calling duties like it's the talking stick when it's your turn to speak, whenever your job is somewhat in jeopardy. So he gave the play calling duties to their offensive coordinator and then that's not working out so well. So he's taking it back to fix the team. This is, did you see the picture of Frank Wright, his opening press conference in now today and he is aged in presidential years? It's so bad. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Dog years. That's David Tepper. And David Tepper also had a very bizarre, I don't know where he was speaking. He was like, he was like at the side of maybe the podium or something, talking about the draft day trade and how there was a trade for them to be the second pick with Houston three-way trade with Chicago. And then he's like, but then we decided to go one. Essentially
Starting point is 00:37:30 saying like he's trying to cover up the fact that maybe they didn't want price young, but I the whole thing is confusing. It sounds like he just is an idiot and Houston was like, wait, they're going to take price young. We can just not trade. Yeah, there were all sorts of stories that came out as the draft was happening of like why they like Bryce Young. Again, it's the scallops dinner. Yeah. It went to dinner and they were super impressed
Starting point is 00:37:51 with this young man. So then the owner, Tepper was like, yeah, I want this guy. This is the guy I can build around. And I'm almost ready to say, like I know that we've been comparing Stroud to Bryce Young this entire season and that's gonna happen for the rest of their careers no matter what. But like give, I wantoud to Bryce Young this entire season and that's going to happen for the rest of their careers no matter what. But like give I want to see Bryce Young play somewhere fun.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Yeah, I'm now mad at the at the Panthers for potential, not maybe not the organization as a whole, but like, right for sure of making this potentially fun guy not as fun to watch. So this is not a fun place for Bryce Young to play, but I had a thought, shower thought, dumb thought, what if the Bears traded the Panthers number one pick back for Bryce Young and Brian Burns and next year's number one for the Panthers? I like that. So we got right, the Bears got Bryce Young. I just was thinking about it. It's kind of like a, like a toddler, you give a toddler a piece of candy and they won't eat it right away
Starting point is 00:38:46 because they're like, I wanna hold the candy, I wanna see the candy, if I eat the candy, the candy's gone. That's how I'm feeling about having two number one picks. I don't ever wanna not have two number one picks. I wanna have two number one picks for the rest of my life. So I don't wanna use the bolts of them.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I wanna trade and get another one and just keep kicking the can down the road and having two number one picks. It's so fun having two number one picks. And you're also seeing another kid holding like black licorice and they're like, this is so gross, but you see another kid holding a piece of candy like I want that. Yeah. So that's my thoughts on draft picks.
Starting point is 00:39:19 But yeah, David Temper, he also had the awkward moment where a boss that's a piece of shit Like makes a joke and everyone has a laugh. So he was like, yeah, we're gonna do the trade the three way trade on Wednesday And you know, I'm impatient. I'm in from a world of trading So I was just texting our GM over and over like wins a trade again Wind and the GM had to like laugh and make yeah, you did do that my fucking life sucks Yeah, it seems like a miserable guy to work for yeah Just stroke that those brass balls if you're looking at the Mount Rushmore of ways that coach I'm like, yeah, you did do that. My fucking life sucks. Yeah, it seems like a miserable guy to work for. Yeah. Just stroke that, those brass balls.
Starting point is 00:39:47 If you're looking at the Mount Rushmore of ways that coaches try to save their job mid season, it's gotta be one like benching a quarterback, right? That's gotta be the first. Taking, passing play calling duties, probably no. I think that's first. You think that's number one? I think benching a quarterback is usually last resort
Starting point is 00:40:03 or one of the last resort. What about firing your offensive coordinator? That is definitely one of You think that's number one? I think Benchink quarterback is usually last resort or one of the last resort. What about firing your offensive coordinator? That is definitely one of them. Definitely one. firing anyone on the staff is one of them. Like you, special teams coach. Yeah, we gotta change something. Frank Reich, he should coach from the booth.
Starting point is 00:40:16 He should be head coach from the booth. Yeah, just move up there. Or just not even head coach. Honestly, coaching from a booth would kick ass. Yeah, you can see everything, all 20, too. And you get your dip cup right there. Yeah, you got your diet, coax. Hang out. You like, oh, I can't, can't come down to half time. Too long. The bathrooms right there. Yeah. Way better. Way better. Okay. Yeah. So I don't know. I, I think maybe I'll end up taking
Starting point is 00:40:36 the Cowboys, but I, I thought across my mind. Maybe I'd take the Panthers. This seems like one of those games where the Cowboys just beat the shit out of an interior opponent. They like to do that. All right, Jake. Dallas is the only team in the NFL this season with three 40 point games since head coach Mike McCarty arrived in 2020. The Cowboys have the most 40 point games among NFL teams with 14 of them. 14 14, 20, 20 raised the banner of 45. 40 plus. that's a lot of super roles, right? Ton. What do you think about the conversation going on out there about that we should use that same energy
Starting point is 00:41:11 every time Josh Allen throws an interception as we did when that through interceptions last season? I would say that we're biased. Yeah, I would say I would agree with that. Yeah, that would be my counterpoint. Also, we're biased. Josh, Josh's interceptions just look cooler. Yeah. I mean, come on. Yeah, they look awesome. Josh is also want to play off game
Starting point is 00:41:29 Has that one of playoff game? Wait, did he he did? Yeah, they beat the box. Oh, yeah, they beat the box. Yeah, Josh is one Thanks just the playoff game. How many NFC championship games has that been Josh has won two playoff games, right? Yes. Yeah Also, Josh won multiple playoff also Josh has Josh has been thrown in interception since day one. Yeah, that's kind of his thing. Right. Josh, you know Josh is gonna throw interception. Yeah, that's what he does. You just hope that the cool shit that he does
Starting point is 00:41:54 that's not in interception is way cooler than the interceptions are. Jack doesn't throw interceptions against bad teams, and then when he plays good team, he's like, fuck, I'm gonna throw in interception. Yeah, like, and when he throws interceptions, the cool shit that he does afterwards isn't cool enough to outweigh the interception, so.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Yes, yes, so that's easy. And we're by. We're very by. All right, Titans of Jaguars, I think this is a get right for the Jaguars, I think we're gonna kill the Titans. I was looking at it, the will of us who we believe in, he went up against the Falcons, the Steelers, the Box, all bottom of the half in the league in terms of coverage.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Now they're going up against Jaguars who were actually good in coverage this year. I think it's been a long day for the Titans. I think the Jaguars, this is kind of a, who are we game? Like, we got embarrassed by the Niners. Who are we? Trevor's injured. That news came out this week. Like, is me? Yeah, Doug, Doug Peter, heard it in the Saints game.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah, Doug Peterson mentioned it specifically. He's like, we're limited in what Trevor can do because of his knee. Huh. So I guess it's worse than we at all thought, which would make sense because Trevor hasn't been playing like exceptionally well this season. Yeah. He's been okay. And he always, the thing about Trevor Lawrence is, even if he's injured, he just looks like a quarterback so much. Yeah. That you're like, okay, this guy's still good. But apparently he's been injured. My only note on this is that one Mike Vrable has been taking drills this week. He's been put in the drills. He's been love that. Taking part of the drills. So you know, that's great. And then also,
Starting point is 00:43:20 there should be a Thursday night game. Yeah. And Shagwars. We get one of those every year. It should be a late December Thursday night game. Yeah, thanks Jaguars. We get one of those every year. Should be a late December Thursday night game. Yep Okay, nerd nugget for this game. The Titans are the only team in the AFC who are still windless away from home this season and in those six losses They're averaging just 12 points per game yikes Five road tough to watch their offices tough to watch Okay, this is gonna be a fun game Cardinals and Texans Kyler Murray looked really good for someone who hadn't played football for a year. He was very fast. He were all kind of shocked. I thought there was going to be a lot more rust. CJ Stroud is incredible. Um,
Starting point is 00:43:57 I'm a little nervous about the Texans in this game because didn't it feel like the Texans were, we've been on the Texans being like, Texas are good, the Texas are good, CJ Strauss good. The win against the Bengals, it hit that critical mass of now, it's MVP for CJ Strauss, Texans in the playoffs. It might be a read your press, press clippings type of game. I would agree with that. When they started immediately after the game, saying that CJ Strauss MVP. Yeah, that's when I was like if I had CJ
Starting point is 00:44:27 Stroud stock right now. I would I wouldn't actually sell it, but I would I would look at the price It's not a calculator and be like man if I sold this right now, it could be rich That's the only thing that makes I think the Texas will win But that is the only thing that's making me nervous about this game and the cartels get paid to play football too That's fast guys are pros. We also have Stroudboy shirts live in the Barstle store right now. I'm gonna try to find it underneath. Find it. Find it.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Find it. He's finding it. He found it. Stroudboy shirts. Barstle sports. Nice find. Thank you. Stroudboys with the outline of Texas.
Starting point is 00:45:00 How perfect is that? Show your support. Stand proud. Look, Stan Mack. Stan by. Throw it up there. Thanks, Max. Now I have two of Texas. How perfect is that? Show your support. Stand, stand proud. Look, stand back. Stand by. Throw it up there. Thanks Max. Now I've seen. I have two of them. Unbelievable. Shrub boys. Shrub boys. Shrub boys stand up. Nerdnugget for this game. With field goals of 51 and 56 yards last week. Cardinals kicker Matt Prader now owns the franchise record of 17 field goals of 50 plus yards. Displayed playing in just 40 games with Arizona. And he has 76 career field goals of 50 plus yards. Displuged despite playing in just 40 games with Arizona. And he has 76 career field goals of 50 plus yards.
Starting point is 00:45:29 That's 18 more than any other player in NFL history. Damn. Great kicker. Yeah. Great kicker. Damn. Who's kicking? Wait. Say that again, Jake. He has 18 more 50 yard field goals than any other player in NFL history. That's kind of insane. I didn't know 76 Like that's that's a lot more. Yeah, I think Vinatius second or someone who's just a Tucker I get my guess is he would be 18 behind. Yeah, yeah, he'd probably be second. Yeah. Yeah, that's nuts. Okay. Good nerd nugget. Thanks afternoon games box at 49ers. I hope the 49ers kill him. I think they will.
Starting point is 00:46:10 49ers are back. They are back. They are so back. Turns out having your best players play helps. Did you see the replay when they put together the various clips of Trent Williams on that one play where he pulls out to the left and then the quarterback just runs away from him.
Starting point is 00:46:25 He's a monster. He's like, no, I'm taking myself out of this play. I opt out. He's got cornerbacks opting out of plays instead of trying to actually make a tackle. When Trent Williams and Debosam are on the field, I know I think the problem is before Niners have so many dudes that you think, oh, you lose these two guys, you're fine. But you also have to remember the drop off of someone that good is going to be larger because he's that good. Like the backup to Trent Williams, no offense to him. Trent Williams is the
Starting point is 00:46:51 best. Yeah. Also, if you're the backup to Trent Williams, you probably just think the entire game, like fuck, I'm not as good as Trent. Right. Like what would Trent be doing? Like I don't want to get in because then they're going to see I'm just were different like species. Yeah, you miss a block and you think you're something that Trent would have had. He's so good. Yeah. Also Brock party is back to being I would say top 10 quarterback. Yes, absolutely. Porto line of lead. Mm hmm. I, uh, yeah, I the box just bum me out. I don't know. Like what do they do that makes you excited? Mike Evans. Mike Evans dropping a ball because he's thinking about which fan he's going to hand it to. That's kind of cool. Mike Evans, Baker, sometimes running around Todd Bulls, the bummer,
Starting point is 00:47:29 V2Base, fun. Yeah, I just, I, the bucks bum me out. They're offense coordinators like a little two attractive. Yeah. They always show them in his tight shirt, showing everybody up. This is also biased because Steven Chase is so annoying. Yeah. But, uh, all right, nerd nugget. 49ers running back, Kristen McCaffery is averaging 121 yards from scrimmage per game this season. Second in the league right behind Tyree Kill. Ooh, that's good. Yeah, that's pretty damn good. Score touchdown last week and get America chicken.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I'm not gonna forgive him for that. That hurt. Well, he would still have to do the dance. I mean, I couldn't. He would have, yeah, but he was gonna do the dance. You don't think he was gonna do the dance? You don't think he was gonna do the dance? Why do you think he- Wait, Jake, why do you think he doesn't like chicken?
Starting point is 00:48:08 No, I think it's racist. That seems racist, but anyone could have done it. So why are you blaming him? Okay. He was gonna do the dance. He was gonna do the dance. He was 100% gonna do the dance. I would have done the dance.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I would have, I would have scored, and then I would have done the dance. Right, if you give me four opportunities from inside the 10-year-old line like he had at the end of the game to score touchdown and you don't, I mean, I, I would score at least two of those. Yeah. Oh, wait, Shake Shack tweeted that Taylor Looan's chicken dance was good enough. Oh, done.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Wait, after 11, 19, Taylor Looan. He did one, yeah, be gone from the bus and with the boys account. They said that's good enough for us for you, chicken Shack's on the bus and with the boys account. They said that's good enough for us for you chicken shacks on long Let's go the golf podcaster Taylor Luan. Did it? Let's do it That's wild. Yeah, okay, sure. Let's go. I know what has that has a book Taylor All right Jets it bills memes. Hello Wait Jake Jake do your entrance for memes He gets it he gets the same entrance you do I Wait Jake, Jake, do your entrance for memes. Duh, duh, duh, duh.
Starting point is 00:49:05 He gets the same entrance you do. I would think that if we're gonna do a trombone as his entrance, it should just go, yeah, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, the price is right. Just imagine E or walking on the camera. Duh, duh, duh. Memes. Okay, give us one. Okay, thanks Hank. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun I'm just seeing that you're paying attention. I'm paying attention. Hello. How you feeling about this game? Pfft.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Uh, is he season? What? Is he? The running back? Is he? I can't pronounce his last name. Is he? They cut my, they release Michael Carter.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Right. And they're giving Izzy a shout. So his briefs hall, what? Brie's hall is still there, but it's, but. Why? Brie's hall is good. Brie's hall is amazing. So then what, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:50:03 So now, Izzy steps in. So do what? He's gonna be the second back. Okay. Rees Hall is amazing. So then what would he be? So now is he steps in to do what? He's going to be the second back. Okay, but that's not third. Woodbuck's out of the cook. I don't like that. I know you don't, but like what are we talking about? Memes, if we're talking about the New York Jets, why would a borderline backup running back have anything to do with whether or not you'll be a better team this weekend?
Starting point is 00:50:22 Because the bills can't stop the run. But you just said the, the third string quarterback is, is your takeaway for this game. Is he? Yeah. I'm going to have to have a body. I'm going to have to bet on him. I'm a scrawny fucking a means you put us in a box. He's going to score. I mean, you guys do have Josh Allen's number.
Starting point is 00:50:41 We do. I don't the, the line on this game is scaring me a little bit. Exactly. That's I love the bills. Yeah. Because the jets feel so easy. Like I looked at this and I counted as a win because I was going to take the jets. And I was like, wait, what? You got it. You got to take the bills. Yeah, the set the seven is scary. Seven scary memes. It's too many points. I'm I'm going to declare that every game for the rest of the season is must win for the bills. I would say so. I think they need. You might be able to get one more loss.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I'm, I'm going to say it's a must win though. You can't, the margin of error is too small. It's a must win. Yeah, they have to look good because it's, it feels like I was just thinking about like sad bills, fans, walking out of the stadium, dark out late game. Yeah, you got to win this game. You have to win this game. That sucks, doesn't it? I went outside, I was out at the park with Blake
Starting point is 00:51:32 at 445 in the afternoon yesterday. Yeah. And it was dark out. It sucks. It fucking sucks. Just end this stupid charade. I saw one person tag me and was like, becatch it, told you about this in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:51:44 It's like, wait, in New York, it's, it's, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it actually gets darker earlier in New York. What are we talking about? All the buildings. Yeah. For the sun kind of sets. It's just, just change the fucking,
Starting point is 00:51:55 whatever it's called. No, my probably like savings. Yeah. Care remember, is it daylight savings or is it the other thing? Daylight losing? No, what's the, what's the, what's the spring one? Leap back. What do we have to do?
Starting point is 00:52:08 Not do daylight savings or do daylight savings? Not to. We want the one in the spring. We want the spring. No, I know, but do we do, are we done with daylight savings or are we keeping it done? Done with it? Done with it.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Okay, great, done with it. I'm done with that shit. It sucks. No, my quarrel is. Wait, why is it called daylight savings when we that shit. It sucks. Like, no, my quarrel is- Wait, why is it called daylight savings when we don't save any daylight? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Because I think when they put it in, that's when we get more. Did we just lose daylight savings? No, it's the morning is when it gets the, it's so fucking stupid, it's the stupid far- Also, boss moved by the state of Arizona. Yeah, they do what they want. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Someone told me once it was a state. Someone told me it was the farmers once, I'm just gonna blame the farmers. I shout out the farmers, I like farmers, but this thing is stupid because they said, farmers don't wanna wake up and farm in the dark. So now it gets light, the sun rises 630, but it sets it 440.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Who wouldn't wanna take the sun rising at 730 and setting it 540? That's way better. It's so much better. And I know that we do have some farmers that listen. So if you're out on your tracker, I love the pit like whenever they send a picture of them plowing the field. Yeah, shout out that. I like that. But I would like you to explain to me how come we have to change our clocks just for you. Right. I want to know that lights exist now. Yeah, just yeah, just set up Christmas lights in your field everywhere. Done. Uh, all right. Yeah, I kind yeah, just set up Christmas lights in your field. Everywhere. Done.
Starting point is 00:53:25 All right, yeah, I kind of like the bills in this game, only because of the spread. Like it's, it's scared me off the jets. This does feel like everything inside the bills facility this week is probably just straight business. Oh, yeah. I think they're about that business this week. I also don't want to get my hopes up.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I really don't, because we can't score a dot-sham. But if they, if the jets win win and the Dolphins lose, black Friday is for the first place in the division. Ooh. So you're still thinking. Yeah, but Kevin Harlan's on the call for the Dolphins. Yeah, I mean, the Dolphins are not gonna lose the Raiders memes.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Anything that happened. I think it's time for an intervention. I mean, Izzy was really the rock bottom. Yeah. Izzy was as low as he gets. We can't score a touchdown. And Izzy's the, Izzy was really the rock bottom. Yeah. Izzy was as low as he gets. We can't score a touchdown. And Izzy's the... Izzy is...
Starting point is 00:54:09 Again, I'm gonna have to bet on them because you fucking said this guy's name, and now he's never gonna score a touchdown. I probably won't be on a roster next year, but now I have to bet on them. No, he's gonna run back, play the pit. Okay, but what... If he's a good running back, why was he playing? They they signed David Cook. So memes. All right, is he is the guy is the guy, but do do you really want to win this game?
Starting point is 00:54:32 Like you've already said that you don't want Aaron Rogers back this year. I did say that, but the the so confused he's so yeah, the division is also right there. If you win a couple of games, he's so confused. Play the dolphins twice. The dolphins are not going to lose to the Raiders memes. Aino-com. Okay. A-O-C, you love her.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Who see? You sound like Max right now. I just want to. I just want to. Put like a shittier Max because like Max does this, but his teams are good. Yeah, how are you comparing the jets to the E-Max? Because you do this to the E-Max. Yeah, I'm not. I just want, I just want to put like a shittier Max because like Max does this,
Starting point is 00:55:06 but his teams are good. Yeah. How are you comparing the jets to the because you do this thing where you start deals. Regardless, you do the thing where you start talking yourself into circles, then you get like confused with your own words. When you said that you remind me of Max right now, both of them got offended for opposite.
Starting point is 00:55:23 It was great. Max is like when you said Philly's almost title town. All right, fair. Do you remember when you said that? Yeah, I remember. No, you guys have never mentioned it again. It was great. Oh, we haven't.
Starting point is 00:55:36 No. Oh, Max speaking of, I don't know if you saw this, if this came across your desk yesterday, but the new rankings for most popular dog names are out in the United States. Max a second. Oh, so funny. Yeah. No, it was number one. It was number one for like seven years in a row. Yeah, that was like always a fun fact that I had growing up that it's the most popular cat and dog name. But now it's number two. At the end dog, huh? Second place. Yeah. Damn. All right. Seahawks, it rams. Oh, wait, nerd nugget. Sorry. Bill's quarterback, Josh Allen has thrown a touchdown pass and 18 consecutive games and needs
Starting point is 00:56:09 one mortar break Jim Kelly's club records at 1980. Buys. Why is that? Oh, you're the AWLs. Yeah, no, that was biased. Yeah. Congrats to Josh. It's a fact.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Yeah, no, but it's biased. It's biased. There have been some people in like the analyst community that have been like Josh at home like if you actually look at the tape has been playing great and he's doesn't have many turnover worthy plays Yeah, I'm in for that. They're doing the they're doing the bad turnover look right well This is this is kind of Josh. You're always going to get some earnovers The real difference if you if you watch the tape slash look at the box score is that Josh isn't running the ball It's much anymore you watch the tape slash look at the box score is that Josh isn't running the ball is much
Starting point is 00:56:45 anymore, which is good, which is I think that's one of those things that we talked about with Justin Fields where it's like Josh is a great quarterback. We want to limit the number of hits that he takes. Let's have him run the ball less. And then guess what happens when you run the ball less with your dynamic running quarterback, you're not as good anymore on office. Throw more. Yeah, you throw, but like let Josh run free.
Starting point is 00:57:04 You know what? Free Josh. Free Josh. Throw more. Yeah, you throw them, but like let Josh run free. You know what free Josh free Josh free Josh. All right, see ox at Rams. So I was correct when I said that the Rams stink and then they went to stink really bad against Cowboys and then they lost three in a row. I think I'm ready to buy back it on the Rams. Healthy Stafford. This also is one of those spread games. It makes no sense to me. Seahawks are six and three, whatever the record is. They're good. The ramps are bad.
Starting point is 00:57:33 The ramps are a one point underdog. Huh? Yeah. Somebody knows something. I just, I think the ramps are gonna win this game. I, uh, and it doesn't McVeigh own Carol. McVeigh, let's see, McVay owns Carol. I don't know if that's true.
Starting point is 00:57:49 They all own the Cardinals coach. We forget this every single year. I know my own. I'll own Vay. Right. So then it would make sense. I think Carol might own. He's eight and five against P.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Carol. Okay. Who does P. Carol owns Kyle? Yes. I think I think. And then they only make a chart for us. Please so I'm upset because we got a Carson Wentz signing out in Los Angeles on the by week. So we didn't get one appearance of Carson Wentz. Once you have Carson Wentz, you just want everybody else to be afflicted.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Yes, full blown Carson Wentz. Yes, have Carson Wentz, you just want everybody else to be afflicted. Yes. Full blown Carson Wentz. Yes. You want to spread the disease around. Everyone gets a piece. You want to take joy in the misery of others that has to deal with it too. I feel like those who have not had Carson Wentz play
Starting point is 00:58:36 for your football team are missing out on a very painful experience that I want to commiserate with. You just had a baby too. Yeah. Carson Wentz. Yeah. You got signed and went right home to have a baby and then came back and shocked his sperm didn't get picked off.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Max, when we got Carson Wentz, were you happy for me that you got to see another franchise like deal with the bullshit that is Carson? Yes, but there's also still a part of me that thinks that Carson Wentz could be good. So yeah, yeah. I'm glad you admitted that, because I was texting with somebody the other day
Starting point is 00:59:11 about Carson Wentz signing with Rams, and I was like, also, if he has one good throw, I'm gonna be like, fuck Carson Wentz is still good. I'm gonna fall back into the trap so fast. But I do want other people to experience having full blown Carson Wentz. Because I fought for him so hard for so long and then obviously all shit hit the fan and then you and then everyone hated him so much. Yeah. But enough time has passed where I fought for him longer than I hated him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:42 So now I kind of I'm like like, he could be, he could be good. Happy course to the wins as a, as a former quarterback for you, is not unlike being a zombie. So you got it. Now you want to spread it to somebody else. I want to bite, I want to bite the Rams. I want to watch them curl up into a little puddle and then go hunting for somebody else to bite.
Starting point is 01:00:00 He could be good. Yeah, he could be. He could be good. All right, nerd nugget. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford is set to play as 200th regular season NFL game. He needs 198 passing yards in this one to surpass Matt Ryan for the second most ever by a player in his first 200 regular season games. Okay, Matt Ryan, there's a name. Have we talked about Matt Ryan? I zone that one out. I didn't even listen to it. Sorry. It's all right. Say it again. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford sets to play players 200th regular season game this weekend. He needs
Starting point is 01:00:29 198 passing yards in this one to surpass Matt Ryan for the second most ever by a player in their first 200 games. Oh, okay. Yeah. So with Matt Ryan though, have the Browns kicked the tires on old Mattie ice. There was a tweet. I think that said like it was like the brown should call him. He's an awful announcing said the Cleveland Brown's best option for replacing Dishon Wanson might be in the broadcast booth. And there's a picture of the booth and Andrew Cattle on the play guy said it's a good fit. I used to run the defense system in my backyard. Now that's funny. So with Matt Ryan, I think he has a clause in his contract where he can get out of the booth to go play for an NFL team.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Oh! Which tells me that like he's thinking about it. Well, remember watching Matt Ryan last year? He's sitting by the phone. That was really bad. What about Philip Rivers? Get all the old stuff. He's got a playoff game on Friday.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Oh yeah, and it's for the high school team. Yeah, that was sort of reported on that. I would say that Matt Ryan would be a better option than DTF. DTR? I'm just gonna call him DTF. It's a cooler nickname, yeah, and for the high school team. Yeah, that was reported on that. I would say that Matt Ryan would be a better option than DTF DTR. I'm just gonna call him DTF. It's a cooler nickname. Yeah Okay, Viking's a Bronco Sunday football Josh Dobbs Russell Wilson. I'm excited. I am excited Josh Dobbs, baby. Yeah, Josh Dobbs is fun. He so fun. And you know what? Russell Wilson might eat back into fun as well. Maybe. I also think the Broncos like that when it gets to bills. Russell Wilson playing a lot better. They started at like the 50
Starting point is 01:01:56 yard line every single drive. And then they got like 15 yards. I know. So I'm going to take the Vikings in this game most likely. So on on Monday night, Russell Wilson was good. Not, yeah, he was great. No, he was good. He is good. He did what he needed to do. Correct.
Starting point is 01:02:11 They're four and five. Everyone was going to laugh at the start of the season about the AFC West record. And you know, outside the chiefs, every other team looked like dogship. But now that the Raiders have ripped off two in a row against the jets and the giants, the whole division looks a little bit better. and the Broncos are not out of it. They're in the hunt. They're the Broncos are in the in the. In the.
Starting point is 01:02:31 They are in the hunt. Bucophic. Yes. They'd have to pass some pretty good team. Yeah. They're one one game behind the Bengals and the Colts. I guess one and a half behind the Colts and a half game against behind the bills, right? I know they have the tiebreaker, but they're four and five.
Starting point is 01:02:45 The bills are five and five. Yep. So yeah, they got some work to do. Would be crazy if the Broncos made the playoffs. It'd be awesome. Would be. It'd be fun. I think it'd be good for ratings.
Starting point is 01:02:55 And that's what we root for. Yeah. Okay, Jake. History says this will most likely be a close game. Time of the 15 games between these two teams I've been decided by four fewer points, including each of last four matchups. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Let's do some picks. Where are our standings? Do it. Do it. Points, points, points. Points. Yep. Points.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Big cat. Or sorry, we'll start off with the warm up, 15 minutes, 15 minutes in Las Vegas. Jake, 11.5. Max, 11., memes, 10. Oh, he's race. One and a half. Spicy. Separating all of us.
Starting point is 01:03:32 And the main event, one hour between the three of you. Big cat. Hank just sighed. Big cat, 12 and a half. PFT, 12. Hank, eight. Oh, no. Eight half.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Eight half. Eight half is a big half point to Hank. Next week, we will do three picks. Eight half is a big half point there, Hank. Next week, we will do three picks. Hank, if it's inconsolated, just know that your PowerPoint on the lighthouse was so good that I have full faith that you'll be able to put together a full hour on. You got this. Whether or not this presentation is actually real.
Starting point is 01:03:59 You still 16, 17 picks left. Yeah, and next week, we'll do three. So we'll do around, maybe we'll do we'll do around Maybe we'll figure out with the lottery ball who gets to go first, but we'll have one pick everyone has to one pick for Thanksgiving day or Friday or Friday. Yeah No, thanksgiving day then you can do Friday or Sunday I've noticed that you've been quiet. What are you upset about? I'm not upset I'm just not looking forward to doing an hour of standup. You got this. You got this. You're big boy. All right. Who's going first?
Starting point is 01:04:30 Believe it's Max. Yeah, just pick some winners. Hank. Fine. Don't pick the losers. I don't know. I'll go who's gonna confirm it. Somebody. Just Matt. I don't think I know what's going on. Well, we started with PFT, and then I think I went last week in this studio. Sure. I don't remember. Yeah, whatever. We rarely start each other's bikes. I am going to be taking the bears. Plus seven and a half.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I like it. I got it in the lions. Yes. I like it. They're not as bad as people say. They aren't Hank or no memes Eagles chiefs over 45 and a half. Oh, it's fun. That is fun. Yeah, that's very damn. That's so fun. That's fun Fuck I just want to I want to take that picture so it can smile
Starting point is 01:05:19 This is not gonna make you smile. It doesn't make me smile, but I'm going forward. Anyway, Titans plus seven against the Jaguar. Mm, mm, mm. That's not fun. Which is strategy on that. Injury, I think Jags are banged up. Will Levis bounce back in, for Abel, coaching, gonna keep it close. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:38 I'll take box-9ers over 41 and a half for my first pick. That's a good pick. That was gonna be mine. The 49ers might get that on their own. Yep I'm going to go I don't have anything that I love. I'll be honest with you guys don't have anything I love but I'm I'm gonna go with the Steelers Road dogs plus one against the Browns. Yep. Let's do it. Okay. I'm going to go with the dolphins minus 13 and a half against the Raiders
Starting point is 01:06:05 Okay, and I'm gonna go with the offense Raiders over 46 and a half. Oh double dip. They love to square at home I love the crush teams at home Double dip all right PFT. I'm gonna go with the Cowboys Panthers over 42 and a half points Ooh, I think CD lamb gets like 21 points on his own. Okay? I will take I have to do a spread now 32 and a half points. Ooh. I think CDLAM gets like 21 points on his own. Okay. I Will take I have to do a spread now You know what I'll back it up. I'll take Rams plus one back up what I said my theory I'm going to take the Bears Lions under oh seven and a half just some fields coming back little rusty
Starting point is 01:06:47 Bears defense playing well bears defense playing well line defense Not exist sounds back game. Oh I like that you can just say like if a team's good at something be like yeah, they're good at this and if they suck I'd be like they're looking at bounce back. Yeah, they're fired up. You got it. Oh, this is the dumbest Yes thing ever if you hit any part of the metal mesh, the whole thing just falls on me. It's like a trampoline back. Also the TV's too small. Don't fix it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Why do memes? What did Max go? He left their playing music on the court. He's telling them we can hear from here. I like my likes are hot. I like matches. Scream. Man.
Starting point is 01:07:24 All right. Memes. Anybody take the Seahawks? Nope. Nope. I like my legs are hot. I like my actually scream. Yeah. All right memes Anybody take the sea hawks? Nope, nope sea hawks minus one Okay, the Rams yep Max grand finale is there noise for the grand finale? My big yeah, um I Want the grossest pick the brown Steelers on there. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:50 I think it's like 31. Uh, I just saw 32 and a half. Yep. Did someone else wait? Did someone take that? No. Okay. I also saw Steelers one and a half.
Starting point is 01:07:59 So I don't know. I've got right now Steelers plus one on the boss or on ESPN, Barsal Sports Board. Nope. I've got a pancake update this week, so I'll keep you guys posted. Okay. All right, finish fuck, boys. Let's get it.
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Starting point is 01:08:53 Sittum is smoke smoke one of the OG's all-time greatest smoke a snoop dog He retired from smoke. Oh, he didn't die knowing my bad retired, but he might as well be he retired from smoke full-time gummy guy Probably gonna last a couple weeks have some brownies and my sleeper Drain my green. Yeah, don't fuck with them. He'll fucking choke you and to put you to sleep Yeah, you sleep with fishing love that Hey, what's up assholes? It's Tommy the Vito. I was looking forward to playing football this weekend for New York giant You always taught me the video. I'm Tommy the Vito this I was looking forward to playing football this weekend for New York Giant. You always taught me to veto. I'm Tommy DeVito this week again.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Bitch shut the fuck up, Hank. You quarterback's Mac Jones. He's worse than I am. Paleo's happy, third string. I'm starting beer. I'm drinking beer again. Love that. It's beer season in the winter time.
Starting point is 01:09:37 I'm sitting not drinking beer. I used to not drink beer sometimes, but now guess what? We're drinking some stunts. And my sleeper this weekend is me, DeVito that's right Tommy's gonna go into land over Maryland and it's gonna throw for at least 20 yards that's a fucking promise that's a DeVito family promise love that love that Tommy DeVito you like chicken palm love chuck chicken chicken mom chicken mom and bad boys and now that's what I call wheel class night. Chicken
Starting point is 01:10:06 Palm. What's up? You fox. My name's George Santos. Hey, George, boy. My stardom is only fans. Yeah. Fucking love that shit. Love tipping, tipping everyone. Seeing all these chicks, guys, whatever you want, whatever you into. It's supporting small business owners. Yeah, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my. Yeah, my my my cinema is my only fans page. I don't have one Didn't peel a banana with my feet on it People ask me that George. Do you did you I never did that? I'll never said that build a banana with your feet? No Hey, George. What are those tootsies do huh? No, I It's never happened and then my sleeper, my sleeper,
Starting point is 01:10:45 is gonna be Hank Lockwood. The fuck? People sleeping on this guy, he's an up-and-comer. Hey! He's fucking guy, he's a big guy, he's a good guy. Oh, Max is making a face like, I don't know about that. You know what, you know what I- The real piece of shit?
Starting point is 01:10:57 You know what I heard about Hank. I heard that, uh, maybe he's got conflicting business priorities. Oh! What's that? That's what I heard, not for me. Are we still doing the voices? No. Not for me, I didn't hear that, I didn't say that. But there's...
Starting point is 01:11:13 We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk about it.
Starting point is 01:11:20 We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can talk what happened. A mutiny is incorrect. I don't know. I tried to ask Max and he was like, I'm not talking about it. I'm not talking about it.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Are they going at the king? Max and memes are a form of coalition. We just, you know, it's been a long time coming this new office. There was a couple new things that are coming around and Hank is just, P.M.T. is just not his top priority anymore. And that's just a fact. That's bad.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Can you give me some examples? Give us some examples. I don't understand what you're saying. We need to hear the examples. There's just a fact. That's bad. Can you give me some examples? Give us some examples. I don't understand what you're saying. We need to hear the examples. There's just one example and I get it. I agree with you. Viva TV should be a big thing, but it's just part of my take doesn't matter anymore.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Why would happen? But what have I done to make you think that part of my take doesn't matter? Well, every Thursday night we release our PMT vlog and PMT V vlog and you know, we had an agreement that I was like, oh, this Viva TV thing, you're gonna go Monday, Wednesday, Friday, we're gonna go Thursday. Oh, no, you broke the agreement.
Starting point is 01:12:13 And then all of a sudden today. Two weeks for till the new year. And then one of the Monday, Thursday. Oh, hey! I signed with the boys in the booth. They're on, it's at different times. I signed with the boys. They're not released at the same time. No. What are the boys in the booth. They're on, it's at different times. I sighed with the boys. They're not released at the same time.
Starting point is 01:12:26 No. What are the times? Two hours. It's kind of similar. I so, Thursday nights. For a few weeks, yeah. But what was Monday, Wednesday, Friday was the... Agreed.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Yeah, it sounds like you don't care about the Monday, Friday. I'm with the Mutiny. And then we also said I also talked to him about it and then it became a you and us situation. Oh, you and us. Well, well, then I was like, I thought you were on what time we putting up PNTV. No, you said, what time are you putting out that you're going to keep me out of wrong wrong. You and us. You and us though. He did you and us them and it's also about Hank being like, well, I'm technically like the senior vice president.
Starting point is 01:13:09 I'm SVP. So I don't really work on part of my take. I just that also was. Yeah. That also was part of the. Is SVP and his head logo is spinning and he's laughing at us. It is a tough, you know, there's a lot of shows, podcasts, streams, like things have to come out in the same days.
Starting point is 01:13:25 There's not enough time. There's not enough days in the week. But it is. But it is. It means it means it's the real one who should be. Yeah, he doesn't speak. He just fucking chirps me from the clouds. I like that means keep going.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Izzy army. Izzy army. Stand up. So Hank, what do you think about these guys? Like, to me, I'm concerned because it sounds like you don't have your boys in order. It's memes. Memes is a mutant near. Mutant near, nice.
Starting point is 01:13:50 And I don't, again, like YouTube, the way YouTube works, the algorithm, like people are gonna watch what they wanna watch. I think releasing something at the same time would be crazy. I think releasing things at different times, when you have a company with, you know, 100, like 50 shows that I'll do videos. I don't think it has anything to do with podcasts. I don't think it has anything to do with the scheduling,
Starting point is 01:14:12 to be honest. I think it's more of a you versus us kind of thing. I don't like that. You forgot where you came from. I have, and that's crazy. Crazy. Actually, now that I think about Big Cat, did we ever give Hank any crap about when a his guys forget to press the button
Starting point is 01:14:28 Cuz I'm telling this isn't when we have to talk about it's true Supervised those on you or having one of his guys have like the worst attitude ever and just be like Moping all the time and saying is he into the microphone. Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem for too much longer, but Is he into the microphone? Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem for too much longer, but You can't say that, you know memes will just spiral. Memes kid, we never said that. We never said that. Memes, he's not gonna fire you.
Starting point is 01:14:55 I just like the, I might reassign your ass. I'll TV. Oh. TV. It's reverse it. I like the idea of just blaming Hank for everything that they do though. Yeah, that's that to me seems like good workflow. Not like that. I don't like that. I don't like that.
Starting point is 01:15:10 I don't like that. No, I love it. But that way I just get to get mad at Hank and I mean on top of the the parking post situation, Hank, you've things have been kind of dicey. I feel like it's they're not too far off. It's you versus us kind of thing. If you forgot about us. I am us. No, a U versus us kind of thing. You forgot about us. I am us. No, you're you. We're us. You're you.
Starting point is 01:15:30 We're us. You hear the, we're all us. No. You first said I'm. Everything that, every view, every dollar, everything goes back to today, importantly. Mm-hmm. I just wanna make sure that you're still part of this team.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Like you still look at this team. Yeah, you still look at this. Yeah, you still like us. You still wanted like, did you do the best for I like most of the people here? Okay, rank us. No, I'm just kidding. No ranking. But also,
Starting point is 01:15:56 memes and max are like fuck with every bottom. Hank can't look in his face that was like, I really want to rank you. Also, the moral of the story is there's two great vlogs that are out right now, me and PFT. Which one should people watch first? I, whatever the people want to watch. Okay. I want them to watch this as a team thing.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Very similar names. I don't. Same day. Memes is also upset about the name. I will, but I will say me and PFT had a nice, did a nice, did a name PFT V memes? Me and Liam did.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Okay. Me and PFT did a nice investigative journalism of the head head space of Rico Bosco during the invitation. Scary place. Scary place. Terrifying. It was it was up close and personal. You should go give it a watch.
Starting point is 01:16:39 I will say that's people are going to give Rico some shit for not paying attention to the mopping, but he did a great job being the assistant coach for the FAU house. Memes, do you think people shouldn't put out podcasts on the same day? No, I think they should know the difference. Different podcasts is a sports podcast. So overdosing is a those of course. Yeah, what is Macrocye Mames?
Starting point is 01:17:02 Here's the podcast. Yeah, one vlog is a vlog about PMT and one vlog is a vlog about that what's what's what's what's the what's the TV about? The what happens at the bar cell office What's PM TV about what happens within the part of my take podcast? Where's the part of my take podcast? This situation it was at the Is that the basketball arena. All right, I think we should just, and this discussion just say, you're on notice.
Starting point is 01:17:30 That's fine. You're suspect. That's fine. Keep your house in order. We'll start. We'll start. That I need to do. That is my biggest takeaway.
Starting point is 01:17:37 You got to clean your home. I got to, I got to, yeah. Oh, he's threatening memes again. Now Hank's going to take some Adderoll tomorrow morning and then just spend all day breathing down your neck. Yeah. I think we should, wait, here's what I want to do. Can we also make a video series of Hank
Starting point is 01:17:54 bossing you guys around as a sub-brand underneath PM TV? Yeah, you produce that one. Okay. Got it. Wait, I have to do my one second in the life of angry Hank Lockwood. Take talk that I'm working on for this entire year. Have you been getting every day? Wait, I have to do my one second in the life of angry Hank Lockwood. Take talk that I'm working on for this entire year. Have you been getting every day?
Starting point is 01:18:09 Yeah, I started it yesterday. Love it. Love it. All right, let's... What if you don't see him some days? What about next week? Thanks, Givving. Now I'll find him.
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Starting point is 01:19:26 Uh, we're going to run this next week. Apologies for the Bears Panthers game, but you guys have an awesome slate coming up. You have Bengals Ravens, right? Do. Yes. So, yeah. We're on opposite sides of it, too. It's not contentious.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Yeah. Well, we both played for the Bengals. People forget. Yeah, people do forget. Yeah, do you, do you, when you do these Thursday night football games, are you just like, oh, I guess I have a route for this team. I guess I'm room for the halfles people forget yeah people do for yeah do you do when you do these Thursday my football games Are you just like oh I guess I've been rooting for this team? I guess I'm rooting for the half the league is yours Yeah, well wit only bangles and Rams. Let's heal root for him every time here He said the Rams are making the playoffs. I did he still stands
Starting point is 01:19:56 Oh, I think I think they're gonna they're gonna win more than seven and a half games this year. I That's actually what I said. Yeah said they stink right before the Cowboys game and I was proven very right. Well, Matt, staffer got hurt. Yeah, but they stink. But we do, we actually have a whiteboard in my house and we write all the teams down and then that I played for and circle the ones
Starting point is 01:20:17 that win or lose and the other week I went O and five with four by weeks. That's a rough week. Rough week for, but usually when they play each other, then it's like, okay, we're guaranteed at least to some sort of win. That's a rough week. Rough week for it. But usually when they play each other, then it's like, okay, we're guaranteed at least to some sort of win. You can win, yeah. You're probably the best person to ask about this.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Like Josh Dobbs, he's bounced around a little bit. We want him to find a forever home. What he did last week, how hard is that actually? To go to a new city and you've got like three days to practice, you don't even get any reps in practice. How difficult is that actually to go to a new city and you've got like three days to practice, you don't even get any reps in practice. How difficult is that to step into a game and do what he did? It's impossible.
Starting point is 01:20:51 It's impossible. We saw it last year with Baker Mayfield when he went to LA and the Raiders game, but Baker was gonna be the starter for that game. Like Josh was an afterthought. They brought him in, they had to get a rookie ready to play. So all their focus was on Hall and what he was doing in the game plan
Starting point is 01:21:08 and for him to step in, you know, on the sideline, talking with the center about where he puts his hands, what the snap count is, how do you want me to, that was like during a game and Atlanta lost the game. Right. That was, it's, I don't know that it'll ever be done again. I mean, that was insane. So from an offensive lineman's perspective,
Starting point is 01:21:25 when you have a new guy who you've never blocked for, do they say something like, hey, this is what I like to do? This I'm gonna roll right? Like, or is that even a discussion? Probably not in that moment, because they didn't have time. They don't know him well,
Starting point is 01:21:36 and he just getting in there trying to survive, right? I mean, he wouldn't in there long enough to have no half the plays and concepts, right? So he's trying to figure that out. So I don't imagine there's a lot of dialogue with that. But as a lineman, especially tackles, you're protecting the edges. So you don't know, is this a quarterback who likes to set deep
Starting point is 01:21:51 in the pocket? Does he like to climb up in the pocket? Like, you're trying to feel this guy out as the game goes and where you need to protect for him. And then I think we talked about it, like, probably beneficial that it was a road game and they're using a lot of silent count, right? Because then you don't have to go off cadence. a quarterbacks first time you're in a I don't
Starting point is 01:22:08 care what practice what it is the first time a new quarterback comes in and says the cadence somebody's jumping yeah and the whole game you're going to be guessing how he's going to use his cadence and those things so I think it probably helped him out some being in the gun using silent count at least that way they're just using their mechanisms and not the quarterback yeah so we're at the point of the season where obviously injuries start piling up. And this is a question for both of you because it's great that they probably did this on purpose,
Starting point is 01:22:34 quarterback offensive lineman. How many injuries to the offensive line is it become like, uh oh, we're in trouble because I know like teams come over one, they overcome one, but you know, two, then three, it's like depth issue, but also cohesiveness with the quarterback. What's that tipping point usually in a season where it's like, we're now, we're now in some trouble, no offense to the backups, but at some point it's like, we just aren't playing as a team. Well, I think that probably the premium is your outside guys first.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Yeah. In the sense of it, depending on the team, right? If you got a young quarterback, veteran center is without question, a massive loss if you lose that kind of guy, because he's probably declaring everything, he's doing all the communication for that young guy, and probably the calming force a little bit
Starting point is 01:23:17 for him while he's playing. But, you know, in most offenses where you got a lead tackle play, you look at San Francisco, how good they were playing until Trent Williams goes down, like, and misses a couple games here, there he's not healthy, like, it matters, because you literally build your offense around how good that guy is and what he does. And so that is a big loss.
Starting point is 01:23:35 You look at what happened to the Rams last year, it's unheard of for, I don't know, every position other than the right tackle was just a rolling will of players. That, you have no chance. But I would say for good football teams, probably one or two is like the max. And that really depends on the quarterback situation.
Starting point is 01:23:51 And probably whether that's a young guy or a veteran, QB, who kind of knows. You know, Drew Brees was an artist that I used to always say, obviously being with the Rams. You know, I'm rooting against the Saints. And it's like, man, the Saints are missing some lime and I'd get livid watching Drew Brie just get the ball out fast. Have all these answers for, oh man, these honor, all these pressure with the ball comes out.
Starting point is 01:24:09 I think those kind of guys can handle it better, but you better bring that kind of situation if you lose one or two guys. I've got a different take than Super Bowl champion, Andrew Whitworth. How many consecutive games did you play? Did I play? I played the man played a lot. So for the bad teams, I always had that rule where like, if I'm in the huddle and there are at least two guys lining up
Starting point is 01:24:32 on the off end line that weren't here at the beginning of the year, that's the tipping point for me. We can do one, we could fill in at left guard, but that's when you're on your third guy and you're moving, you're right tackle to left. We weren't really talking about the teams, are going to go six and we're going to talk to the brothers. Yeah, it depends what perspective you want anyways.
Starting point is 01:24:50 But that's, I mean, that's good point because it does, it does feel like the minute you get that second, it's like, oh, like even the Browns right now, their Gedrick Will's goes down. They've now lost both tackles. And now they're talking about swapping their tackles which I I don't understand Oh, yeah, we'll just put the right tackles the left tackles like that's totally different position I mean Tristan Werffs
Starting point is 01:25:14 You know obviously his has done it this year and it's insane to me that he's done it as well Yes, because I was making this point when we were talking about their game a couple weeks ago Like name a guy that you know that's played both sides. It was like a really good player. Like there's just not any. I mean, most of the time that guy was the average player at best, right? And so it's just whenever they say that, it's like, that's not an easy fix. Like flipping a guy on other side is not the answer. Maybe putting another guy, whoever your best left is and give him help a lot, chip or do
Starting point is 01:25:42 whatever you got to do to help him. To me would be better and at least be good on one side, where the quarterback knows, like, hey, I can trust my right side. Like, we feel good about the left side. I know where pressure's gonna probably be coming from. And to Whits.2, sorry, he said, and he put it in context for me, because even for me, it's hard to say, like, well, why can't you just flip over to the right side?
Starting point is 01:26:00 Right. Next time you go to the bathroom, wipe with your left hand and see what happened. Yeah, I can wipe with the opposite hand. It happens, yeah. I to the bathroom, wipe with your left hand. Oh. You'll see what happened. I have to wipe with the opposite hand. It happens. I had hand surgery back when I was in high school. On my right hand, my life was turned upside down by not being able to use my right arm.
Starting point is 01:26:15 What do you mean? I don't get it. I'm confused. I think we can, we can, we can change our look for like writing and, we can read. Yeah, writing. If there's a way to write it. Yeah. If you're playing left tackle though and you try to switch to the right, like as a left
Starting point is 01:26:28 tackle is one side of your body naturally stronger from doing that, you know, the same like pass set every single time. Yeah, if you look at most offensive linemen like retired players, if you're a right tackle, the left side of your body is where the majority of your injuries are. Your left ankle knee, hip, you know,, elbow, because that's really where you're taking all the pressure on that side of your body. And then if you're a left tackle to the right side of your body, because your outside leg is your kick and stretch leg.
Starting point is 01:26:57 That's how you move. But the inside leg is how you stop force and power and everything else. So usually your inside part of your body is what's injured the most. A lot of guys, while they can't flip, they give you for somebody like me, like my right side of my body is where I took all my injuries. So, to go to the right side and start telling me, I gotta open that up and move it a whole bunch.
Starting point is 01:27:13 It's like, man, no, that part of my body doesn't wanna move at all. Right, yeah, right, base sense. What fits, when you're playing a defense, which would you rather go up against man or zone and would you rather than blitz man or zone and would you rather than blitz or not blitz? Uh, man 100% of the time.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Really? Just like Gino, I'm fascinated with Gino who can't play against man defense. And he just kills zone, which is shocking because that's about matchups, right? Right. So it's like, okay, who's Gino throwing to? Okay, we got Lockit, we got DK and we've got Smith and Jigba. So it's like they should be able's Geno throwing to? Okay, we got Lockit, we got DK, and we've got Smith and Jigba. So it's like, they should be able to win some of those matchups.
Starting point is 01:27:48 That's the hard thing is when you don't have dudes to throw to, you gotta manufacture it. The rubs, the back out of the back feel, that kind of stuff. But for me, if it's man coverage, and I got a guy, it doesn't matter if it's doubled. I mean, if it's Brandon Marshall, I'm just closing my eyes and throwing it.
Starting point is 01:28:04 And some years it works, and some years it doesn't matter if it's double, if it's brain and martial, I'm just closing my eyes and throwing it. Right. And some years it works and some years it doesn't. We were saying that about Joe Burrow. It does feel like once or twice a game, he's just like, I'm just gonna throw it to Jamar. Yep. And like even, like, and even Jalen Hertz with AJ Brown, I'm like, I'm just gonna throw it up there. It probably is not smart, but, but he's gonna make the catch most times.
Starting point is 01:28:23 When you watch it, he makes a play. It's like, sometimes we complicate football too much. My guy's better than your guy, so I'm gonna give him my guy a chance. And that's why I love the AJ Brown thing, because it's like that's what he does three times a game and two at a three. It's either passing a fair answer,
Starting point is 01:28:38 AJ's bringing it down. Yeah, yeah. So, Fitz, from your perspective, we're actually talking about this in Monday's show. As a quarterback, do you bring two separate outfits to where after the game, in case you lose, and in case you win? Because there's no worse look than a guy wearing something
Starting point is 01:28:54 at the podium after they just took a big loss, and it's, you know, Cam Newton having the shirt that looks like your drapes, and like a cowboy hat with tassels on, he's answering questions somberly. Did that, that occurred to you because I know that you wore some pretty crazy post game stuff. But that's why I always borrowed other people's stuff
Starting point is 01:29:10 because I would just show up and then I would be like, okay, we actually won a game. Like here we go, I gotta put somebody's stuff on. Which is the Dishon stuff and other outfits as well. But yeah, it's always a tough look, going up to the podium and then having to walk back to the bus in the flare when you just lost pretty. Yeah, that is tough.
Starting point is 01:29:31 If you're all dripped out and everyone's just talking, like the sad walk back to the bus. Is it? You're talking? Yeah, it's not good. See, these are the small things that we think about that probably players don't think about as much. But you guys, you went to Harvard, you went to LSU,
Starting point is 01:29:45 which school do you think is harder to graduate in four years? Because I would say LSU. Yeah. That might be true. I'm actually going to, I'm going to go LSU. Four years would be tough, man. I mean, you got two years of being incoherent. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:30:01 You got a lot of work to do in two years. Yeah, there's, I feel like there's a lot of pressure on you. Yeah, they don't have a Fred's in Cambridge. Yeah, you're not worried about Fred's and Bogie's and Tiger Land. Yeah. I agree. I would say LSU. You had a pretty good class. It's really hard to get into, right? Yes. That's the hard part. For some, man. For some. Not for this guy. You went to school with uh, who is it Natalie Portman? Yeah, that Harvard Portman was there. Did you hang out with her? Never. Oh, that's not one. You're in the Natalie Portman JTT Listen, really? He can barely get in there now. I mean, took us last year at so look we go go to the Patriots game
Starting point is 01:30:39 We're there. He's like, hey, I've never been on the subway. He's like man. We're gonna take the we'd had never been on a subway like, hey, I've never been on a subway. He's like, man, we're gonna take the... We'd had never been on a subway. Never been on a subway. We'd take them on the tee. They don't have subway on the tee. That's just, that's the only tee. I went on the tee, we went to Harvard.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Fitz was gonna give us a tour of the school. We get kicked out of the cafeteria, as soon as we walked into it, they're like, get the hell out of here. I don't know who you are, or what you're doing, get out of here. So we get kicked out in our first building. It was, it was. Then we went to the Widener Library
Starting point is 01:31:07 and thank God Tony Gonzalez was there. Tony being a beautiful human, we got invited to go on a tour by one of the guys that worked in the building. It was great. But Fitz got us kicked out of the library. That's a cloud. Zach was there at the same time, right?
Starting point is 01:31:21 Yeah. Did you ever use Zach? Did you get face smashed? No. That was called smash or pass no I no yeah the winkle eyes up they were all there yeah the whole crew yeah that's like that's like the Florida like the era where they had Dan Bilzerian Aaron Hernandez Tim Tibo oh that's like Harvard for you guys. Yeah, you've seen the movie. I mean, that's exactly how the party's working. Yeah. Yeah. It's not going to went down. All right. So you guys have, I, I mentioned at the top,
Starting point is 01:31:51 you have a good schedule coming up. Again, sorry for the bearers, Panthers. Black Friday. So Dolphins Jets. I have a question about the Jets offensive line. And maybe we're, because we actually have this conversation with our friend Sam Schwarzenegger, who you guys know, he was in the studio. Really, really smart guy at great interview. The Offensive Line, it's so easy when a team struggles to be like, the Offensive Line sucks.
Starting point is 01:32:17 The Jets feel like maybe that could be true. What is the fix when you're having those type of problems? Is it coaching? Is it play calling? Is it like what how do you fix it in season like we cannot protect the passer here? Yeah, I think there's so many things that go into that right. I mean you got to know the guys you have up front what they're good at Because regardless of when you're struggling I think sometimes you know as fits that earlier like we make it more difficult than it is and it's like all right If we're gonna have to be a team that we run the football
Starting point is 01:32:46 first and run play actions, like what's the best version of a play action we do with the guys we have. And then if we get in those downs where we've got to sit back there and throw it and we got to throw the ball, then we've got to have some answers whether in the screen game, you know, being able to move the quarterback at times, you know, getting the ball out faster is that quick game, whatever it is, and the problem with that is, in this situation, I don't know that, what Zach Wilson's good at yet.
Starting point is 01:33:10 So it's like, all right, what is our answer with our line? And then what is it that we can trust Zach? Like, all right, if we're gonna move to a quick game, because our line struggles, and we want him to just jump everybody, and we're gonna get the ball out fast, then there's gotta be a trust that the ball's actually gonna come out fast, and that you can read zones and know this is who it's got to go to.
Starting point is 01:33:26 So I think to me, it's about, man, I don't know if they have any, we talk about identities on offense, but I don't know if they know enough about who they are and what they're good at to have any answer other than, let's just try and run the football because we're big and strong and that's what they want to do,
Starting point is 01:33:40 but you look in every game where that's not an answer for them, it's over with. They have no offensive answer other than we could run the football and try and smash somebody. Right. I think their identity is we're hoping Aaron Rogers is going to come back. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Their identity is a lot of this pregame throw that Aaron Rogers makes. Maybe he'll come back in a couple of weeks. Yeah. How pissed would you be and fits you can answer this too. Because Zach Wilson, we said it, he's been struggling. He loves to take sacks to the max. Like, when he's gonna get sacked, he's like, let me get even 10 yards further back.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Like, would you tell him, like, hey, man, like a sack is a sack. Don't go backwards every single time, because it feels like they're in like, fourth and 16, fourth and 20, more than any other team. Yeah, now I would say not firing shots, but you know the work that we do watching like Justin Fields is kind of the same way where there's just there's some bad sacks and so there's different styles of quarterbacks, right? And so the Tom Brady's, the Drew Buries, the Pete Manning, like
Starting point is 01:34:41 that ball was coming out. It didn't matter who was in front of him, what the front five were, it was coming out. They were gonna defeat you just by doing it over and over and over again and frustrating you. But then you have a guy like Patrick Mahomes and you look at all these next gen stats and stuff like time to throw over Patrick Mahomes. It's like four seconds.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Like it's crazy at times. Like the amount of, the amount of time you want at least to act quarterback. And he's one of the least to act quarterback. So for me, it's like if amount of, the amount of, he won't at least sack quarter. And he's won at least sack quarterback. So for me, it's like if Zach Wilson, let's first of all, only scramble forward. Right, never go backwards out of the pocket. Cause that was, it was something that was a huge issue
Starting point is 01:35:14 for him last year that he got a little bit better at. And now he's seen a little bit more of a regression. But Patrick, my home's at Tom Brady too, I guess, like the pocket presence and being able to move around and always was so up. Yeah. Amazing. So stop running out of the back pocket because sometimes Zach Wilson, he has a hard time,
Starting point is 01:35:30 even though he's got a strong arm, making it back to the line of scrimmage with the throws. Right. It's not grounding. It's like, he's on his back foot, throwing at 35 yards. Right. Tom, that's what's so incredible. Like, he got injured.
Starting point is 01:35:40 He tore his ACLs stepping up in the pocket and taking a shot like that. And then he came back, like, even more fearless to step up in that pocket throw. Cause like if you're on quarterback, you see these big dudes coming at you. It's human nature to say, well, I'd rather run away from those guys. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of clips was that that and that would be my biggest thing that I don't quite, you know, say that I would buy in with him with is that it's just a lot of plays which is like, dude, you have no feel. no feel. Like do you not feel that the entire line is getting, like you gotta be able to feel that.
Starting point is 01:36:08 You're like my home is so great at that. The second he feels the lineman's backing up or there's pressure, he's gone. Like he's finding a new place to stand somewhere else but there was a couple clips of the night. Like he's just, Zach's standing there just patting the ball and literally both tackles are just condensing down on him.
Starting point is 01:36:24 I'm like dude, do you not feel this happening. Like, I think there's a lot of football that is hard to explain. Like when you're a really good football player, you just feel it and you know what's happened. Like when I was playing to play a long time, I could feel somebody's about to roll up the back of my legs. I could feel that I'm like, oh, I'm in traffic, I'm in trouble. Like I knew when to get myself out of those situations and I just don't see that kind of feel that I don't know that there's a fix for that.
Starting point is 01:36:47 And I will say like watching Will Levis, I mean he was a guy, you know, week one, right to the world on fire, four touchdowns, but watching him play the next week when we had their game against Pittsburgh, like he has a feel. Right. And I don't know if that's cause he played
Starting point is 01:37:01 a bunch in college, Brock Pertie, played a bunch in college. So it's actually like getting out there and playing in these games But we'll love us we came out of that game on me He's too young or respect yeah, I think I gave more respect the non-for touchdown That's what I told him out for the game. I said look like four touchdowns in the debut amazing like the fantasy football owners They love you and everything but like I come out of this game more impressed watching you the beating He took early
Starting point is 01:37:25 How he still stayed in there and delivered some of those throws he was really impressive and just seeing like a rookie quarterback Be able to climb the pocket like that. That's you just see it. You're like, okay, this guy gets it Like he's gonna be successful. Yeah, and it you know good offensive like Detroit's got a great offensive line But quarterbacks can also help out a lot. I mean, some of those stats, like Sam Howe was a good example of a guy, especially early on. It was like taking so many sacks. Now, the other thing is they put a lot of pressure on him because they throw the ball so much.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Right. But, you know, there's another guy that he's a young guy. He has played a lot of football, but he's had to learn this year, how to know when the play is over, how to get the ball out. And, you know, he's put a lot of pressure on that offensive line because of the amount of throws they have but also in holding the ball back.
Starting point is 01:38:10 And I think he's gotten better. I agree. I agree. I'm not in a half. I thought that was something where it would be tough to improve on because it's like human nature, you know, like you are who you are,
Starting point is 01:38:20 he's played so much football. It's gonna be tough to teach him to avoid sacks. But it seems like he's improved. I might be a delusional commander. No, I agree, I agree. I like it. My like watching him play, I think he's competitive, and I do think some of those things,
Starting point is 01:38:34 he got away with in college, that you can't get away with in the NFL, but he's learning that right now. Okay, I can do this, I can't do this. And it's been fun to watch him progress. It's for no against Super Bowl head coaches, you know that? Oh, wow. It's a great back there.
Starting point is 01:38:47 I like that one. If you look at the preseason win against Harboth, which I do because that was, I mean, they take the preseason. Well, the preseason worked out good. Well, since Matt can pick it in relation to the season, as well as the sense Matt Canada came down on the field, the Steelers haven't lost either.
Starting point is 01:38:59 That's, yeah. Is there a difference in having an offensive coordinator or a defensive in the booth as opposed to the sidelines because We've got Wilkes out in San Francisco, right? It's it's the same kind of relation to player-only meetings It's it means the end is real close. Yeah, right? You're making that means the ending is coming real if you're doing player-only team meetings kind of what happened with Medallion's and those guys like I the players are leading this thing
Starting point is 01:39:23 Yeah, the end is real close if you're bringing the coordinator out of the booth and those guys, like I, the players are leading this thing. The end is real close. If you're bringing the coordinator out of the booth and he's going to stand down on the field, we're right there on the tee. You know what, I'm not going to fire you. Come down on the field and let's see if we can stand by each other and this thing can go better. We, I think we, we, we aren't the smartest guys, but one thing that we do do very well is seeing those signs.
Starting point is 01:39:41 It's always the like owner vote of confidence. The owner has to come out and say like we we like our GM We like our our head coach like no, they don't yeah, like you have to say it you don't Mm-hmm. It's it's coming. It's it's it's it's you're the midway point We're having player meetings like that. Just go ahead and get ready for the offseason get a plan You know start getting in a game plan for your vacation because it's coming so it leaks out what what went on in the Yeah, were you a leaker or no? Come on.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Who was going to leak things to Cincinnati today? The people cover our game. Would you guys talk in the player only meetings? No, I usually just sat back and said, it's like a great drama on TV. I'm going to watch this shit show happen. I'm going to watch just all the chaos. I'm idea of kind of throw a little flame out the yellow.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Yeah. You remember, hey, you remember, you really hated that concept we had a couple of weeks ago, right? You wanna talk about it? You know, I love to kind of stir it up. Cause I always trusted, I could comment back down. So I like to kind of flame it up a little bit. Right, yeah. Walking out of the players only means,
Starting point is 01:40:38 I have to imagine the emotion is the same every time, which is like, that was a shit show. Yeah, but we all just yelled at each other. It's also you get back to your then meeting rooms, quarterback room, a line room, and the coaches like, what happened? Yeah. What'd you say?
Starting point is 01:40:51 You said it. Yeah. It's like, you're talking shit about me? Yeah. We were full flow shit shit. When a coach says it starts end ends with me in a press conference, that's also a sign that the end is near forums.
Starting point is 01:41:02 Yeah. When they say I gotta take a long look in the mirror. If you, if two weeks in a row, you say, I got to look in the mirror on this one. Then that's a good sign, like things, you're not going to be around for that much. That and then also, anytime a coach talks about how good the practice was. Oh, yeah. They're like, yet we've been practicing great. It just hasn't shown up.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Wait a minute. I don't believe that. Yeah. That's the word. It's a practice. I don't know why we were terrible today. We had a great week of practice. Yeah, you should have seen it.
Starting point is 01:41:27 The guys were firing all week and playing. Give me all the plays we scripted together. Worked well. You're running your air? Yeah, those two work. Can you guys talk to us about CJ Stroud? Because we've been Stroud boys, believers in CJ, since the very beginning.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Since week one, we're like, OK, this guy is going to be a better quarterback than Bryce, at least his rookie year. But with CJ, it looks like he's doing stuff that even vets are astounded with. So what is it about him? Is it the mental processing? Is it the throws that he's making or what is it? So I would say first of all, just watching him throw the football. It's pretty.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Like if you have a son, you're like, all right, if you don't learn how to throw, like just watch this guy and the way that it comes out. But I've been really impressed. It's the, you know, slow it is running that San Fran, Shanahan, really impressed. A with his accuracy, his toughness. But even last week, like for him to take that team down the field in 48 seconds or whatever it was against Tampa Bay on the 10 yard line, like Mr. Clutch and throw the touchdown. Like those are games that are going to start defining this dude's career and giving a new
Starting point is 01:42:30 field of the Texans. So I've been nothing but impressed with them. I think a lot of it, as we go forward, like when the season started, where we big Houston Texan guys, like, but now he's got me believe in man. Yeah. And he's got all the, so it's that rare characteristic, right? With Burrow, somebody's young guys, we've seen the homes, you know, but there's all of a sudden you like even start believing in the guys they play with more. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:53 Oh, wait a minute. This dude makes this guy better. Now I, I think this is a better receiver than I thought he was last year. Right. You know, I believe in this defense more. At least you can just kind of see the effect. I think when you talk about that position, it is obviously the most important position of football,
Starting point is 01:43:07 but also to a team's confidence and belief and really how they go out and play. When they find one who's like, oh man, this dude's different, that whole team takes this step where you're like, man, this dude plays more confidence I've ever seen play with regardless of the quarterback. And so I think he's got that rare trait where you're seeing guys, they find a new level
Starting point is 01:43:25 themselves just with playing with him, which I think is what makes you really the most excited. That's interesting to think about. And I think if you've got a guy that is like elevating everybody else's confidence around it, there's probably an element of guys being like, oh, this isn't a wasted year. Yeah. Like this is actually, we're in the window right now, because I would imagine if you're on a team, there are some years where you know, you know, after a few weeks, like this is actually we're in the window right now because I would imagine if you're on a team,
Starting point is 01:43:45 there are some years where you know, you know, after a few weeks like, well, this is gonna be, you know, a season where I'm gonna go out there, put out the best film I can, try to compete, it's my job, I'm gonna take pride in it. But if you don't have that actual belief in being able to do great things, then you're probably not gonna be able
Starting point is 01:44:00 to reach that same level personally as a player. Well, and compare it to Carolina, right? So Carolina's in a spot where they've got the young quarterback, probably not going to be able to reach that same level personally as a player. Well, and compare it to Carolina, right? So Carolina's in a spot where they've got the young quarterback. They just, there's so many pieces missing around them. And thus far, other than Adam Thielen, like nobody else has been elevated really on that offense, whether it's Bryce's play or the play calling or the line or whatever it is, I think there are two really interesting ones to look at.
Starting point is 01:44:23 Because coming into this year, if you're like, okay, who's going to have a better year, not Bryce or CJ, but who's going to have a better year, the Panthers or Houston, I think a lot of people would have said Carolina. I mean, maybe, maybe I'm in the minority in that, but I thought Carolina would have a better year. But now you're looking at it, and you're like, these guys, not just a quarterback away, they're six years away. Yeah, you sure are going.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Yeah. How do they get better? Yeah. I mean, when I look at their team, it's like, all right, well, how could you make this team better right now? Well, wait a minute. They traded all this draft capital to get him. So they don't have a lot of that to fix it with. So they got to make great decisions where if you're Houston, now you got this confidence in the quarterback, you're seeing how he plays. You, wherever you see guys stepping up places, you start believing in other guys on the roster. Even from a front office standpoint You start going all right. We know the two or three pieces we need yeah to put around this guy
Starting point is 01:45:09 And we're gonna be a whole lot better really fast. I relate that to burrow and Cincinnati You're talking about an organization who had never signed free agents Mm-hmm all of a sudden they get Joe burrow and they see his impact and Jamar chase and these guys and they're like oh We're gonna get tray Hendrickson. We're gonna go get this guy, you know DJ reader They started investing in people outside the building, which they'd never done in their history. And it's not just them all of a sudden changing. It's, whoa, this dude just made us all think,
Starting point is 01:45:32 we're this close. We got this much confidence over organization. I think that's something CJ's doing to Houston Texans. Yeah. Wow, let's see what they do from here with it. Yeah, yeah. How much fun do you guys have on the road? It feels like you have a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:45:48 It's the best, man. We get it. I mean, we usually get sent on like Monday, but you know, where you go. We get, you know, we always got some side stuff going on. We definitely always are in Wednesday last night. We took in a comedy show at the laugh factory, had dinner together. I think the coolest thing about it. I don't know what other networks do or what it's like elsewhere, but we all genuinely like each other. Yeah. We like hanging out and it's so much fun, so much different than a player because as a player, they're still all that stress in the back of your mind. There's okay. I've got a meeting, okay. I've got a curfew. All right. Tomorrow, I actually have a game. I've got to go out and perform. I've got to get there for warm-ups where this is like, we get to show up, talk about football which we love and have fun.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Our producer isn't overly strict on the commentary and what we're talking about. We truly enjoy each other and what we're talking about, which makes it pretty easy. Yeah, I mean, for me, it's just like if they asked me to get in town enough time to film something for like 10 minutes on Wednesday, I've gotta get in Tuesday morning.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Yeah, you're situated. A couple nice sales in. They need me to come in and film something, Wednesday at four, so I need to get in Tuesday morning. Yeah. You're a situated a couple nice. They need me to come in and film something. Winds, do it for us. I need to get in Tuesday at like three o'clock. Yeah. It's a potty. Yeah. Now, but this is how it goes to and ended up getting canceled. But we're in Baltimore next week and it was like, I had to, we had to be in LA for something.
Starting point is 01:46:57 He's like, well, if we do LA on Monday and Tuesday, we could fly to Vegas, which is on the way to Baltimore. Yeah. One of the ones Tuesday nights. One of the other Baltimore. Yeah. Oklahoma once Tuesday night. It's one of the top off. Yeah. It's like off Wednesday, then we could get out. So that's like just trying to explain that to the wives. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:12 We actually have to. Amazon's making us. Yeah. This is a life on the road when you're talking about football. You have to do all this. Yeah. So what was, we were talking before we started taping. Um, Fitsies got some weird shower habits.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Some weird cleaning habits. Okay. You know, I mean, you said you seem like a smelly guy. Fitsy's got some weird shower habits, some weird cleaning habits. No, okay. You know what I mean? You seem like a smelly guy. Yeah. Okay, I'll say. It's soap and bulb. I'll say two things.
Starting point is 01:47:31 I mean, one thing was we went around the room. Maybe it was even Carissa that was asking was like, do you wash like with soap below your knees? The answer's no. What? Do you let it trickle down? Do you just let it trickle, right? Do you guys wash?
Starting point is 01:47:44 Yeah, I wash. Hello, you scrub your calves? I mean, just give a little quick. It's also like counts as my yoga for the day. Okay. One little stretch. It's last of my priority, but if I'm taking normal shower, yeah. You'll get down there.
Starting point is 01:47:57 It takes, it takes half, it's not that far. You guys shower here? You guys have a locker room? We do have a shower here. Shower shoes or no? You're going in. I love shower shoes. I love dog. You're wrong. I have a lot of garbage. Makes some people have a shower here. Shower shoes are now. You're going in. I love shower sand. I love dog. You're rockin' dog.
Starting point is 01:48:06 I love your slump. Makes some people have problems with that. I don't have a problem with that. Yeah, I mean, it's gross. It's gross. Sometimes you go to like a real gym locker room that has a lot of people. I built, I would argue, different.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Listen, I don't put on sandals, but I will admit sometimes I'm like, this may be a little gross. You walk a little bit on your toes. I'll do the shuffle, but you like a toe. You're like, I'm in a shower that I know has been used like 75 times. Shuffling.
Starting point is 01:48:27 You get as much of the gunk on your feet as much as you want. Bill, how often is the shower? This is maybe what was getting to, I had a confrontation with my wife the other day. She said, okay, I'm going through the laundry. You've got 12 shirts and two pairs of underwear in the last two weeks. What's going on?
Starting point is 01:48:44 So like, yeah, that's where I struggled. Yeah, that's, that's, that's on me. That's bad. That's what you read handed on. Yeah, you know, I think you went, what two weeks in camp one time, no shower? Yeah, but that was on like a, though I bet myself, it was like a dare in Tennessee,
Starting point is 01:48:56 two weeks training camp, no shower. Yeah, nasty is that. Yeah, that's gross. Just really pushing the limits, you know, you get some biohacking. Yeah, that's great. Now, were you get some biohacking? That's great. Now, were you after every practicing game you're showing or not every game, but every practice, yes.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Not every game? No. It's cold weather, you know, you're not sweating that much, playing on turf. Don't have much dirt on you. Just gonna go home. We're with your show at home, right? No.
Starting point is 01:49:21 You get in bed. Oh, man. Okay. Yeah, that's weird. No, I'm weird. Why are you guys? No, what? This is weird Oh man. Okay. Yeah, that's weird. No, I'm weird now by you guys. No, what? This is weird. We're the normal people.
Starting point is 01:49:29 I think it's weird to not shower after you exercise. And then get in bed, yeah. Yeah. Okay, I'm the weird one. And then you have those like weird black pellets. Yeah, the black, now that's weird, yeah. Yeah, because those get into it. I mean, you're a happy guy.
Starting point is 01:49:42 I mean, you're a happy guy. There's no, there's no way there were in some pellets. Places, we won make your head. Yeah, there's no there's no way there wouldn't some pellets places. We won't speak of yeah. Yeah, so for both of you because you both end your career, but it felt like, hey, they could keep playing. What was the last time you got a phone call? I wouldn't say I got a phone call from a team.
Starting point is 01:49:58 I got a lot of pressure last year. Obviously, the, you know, I guess it was what Dallas early, you know, people calling me just buddies like, man, you got to come here and then some like reporters and Dallas and stuff. But and then Cincinnati when when Jonah Wames went down last year, that was like, you know, everybody in Cincinnati like from outside the building, you know, like, you got to come here, you got to do this. Yeah, blame Shreger. And it started.
Starting point is 01:50:21 But, you know, I think it was, it was some pressure, but I was known no place. I've been running around with this guy on the road on Thursdays, you know, I was having too much fun. I will say though, he just hit a drive 330. Yup. And your little simulator, which pretty good. Yeah, it's not little. Oh, huge, huge simulator.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Thank you, thank you. Super cool. And then he went like six for seven from behind the arc from downtown on the court. And he didn't try to dunk, but he at least did like the, I can get over the rim finger roll. Those are high rims too. And they're high rims.
Starting point is 01:50:52 So I think he could still do it if he wanted to. Have you got any calls? I could take it out. There's been a lot of quarterback calls. No calls. No calls. I think I'm done. I would think you would know.
Starting point is 01:51:00 You would be an obvido. You would be an upgrade for the Giants. Yeah. Tommy DeVito maybe. I don't know if that's a compliment. Again, life is good, guys. Yeah. We're having a good time.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Look, you know, that's the thing. We have a good time doing the show, we have a good time traveling. But like, this time right now, normally, like, you know, take your normal Thursday, we finish our production meetings, fits and I go and just walk the city. Like, we go find antique shops and dig into some, you know, and you guys look couple first shops. We go buy. Oh, good. Listen, we dig into some, you know, and she's shopping. You guys look couple. First shops, we go buy. Oh, man, that's fun. Listen, we've bought the crew, you know,
Starting point is 01:51:29 fur and green bay. We bought Tony some gloves. We went in an antique toy shop, found some old 50, 60 year old toys. We got these ladies in green bay, the first shop to describe the rabbit fur and how it was removed and the noises the rabbit killing.
Starting point is 01:51:43 They didn't kill any. She did the noises for us. Like if something that's cute. Literally if we just documented our Thursdays at lunchtime walking around and see how we did the fish market we're throwing around raw fish. Oh, so you know you screwed up just now because Amazon's going to listen to us and be like why aren't we doing a video? Oh, well, maybe I didn't mess up.
Starting point is 01:52:00 Yeah, you did mess up. Well, that's how it works. So the content is you got one fun thing you do and and they're like, how can we monetize it? Yes. Now you have to travel out Monday night. Yeah. So if we're doing something on Thursday, but it's like a long segment, babe,
Starting point is 01:52:13 how many days do you think I need to be there to acclimate? I think it's Monday. It's time zone. It's like traveling over to Europe. You gotta be there, let your body adjust, and then you do the filming probably Tuesday morning. Yeah, it's like a London. And then you don't have anything on Tuesday afternoon
Starting point is 01:52:25 or Wednesday or Thursday until evening, but you still got to stay in town. Exactly. Being practical to fly back and then fly back. Wouldn't make sense. No, not the environment. Yeah. Yeah, how to do it.
Starting point is 01:52:35 What's the best food to do you've been to? You're going to say New Orleans. We were actually talking with the rest of it. I will say. Yeah. Now, it's going to be mad at me because he was doing a little lequido, whatever, but it went out the window in Newark. It's the diet was gone.
Starting point is 01:52:51 We were saying that I can't get back. Yeah. It was Chris at Newark. I was doing so good. You go there. We went there for Final Four, and it was just like, oh, yeah, why wouldn't I have a side of gumbo with every meal? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:01 I might have literally took down 15,000 calories on the Tuesday. I was there. David Chang and we did Galatwas and everything else. with every meal. Yeah, I might have literally took down 15,000 calories on the Tuesday. I was there with David Chang and we did galatwas and everything else. I mean, that was insane day of food. I'd still, I didn't eat for like the next day, I see them at dinner and I'm like, I don't want anything. I can't, I can't.
Starting point is 01:53:16 Oh, there's something worse than waking up full. Oh, couldn't do it. Full sweat, sports, I got a bit of an assana. Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm between gumbo and jumbo and lia, so I gotta get both at a legal meal. That was the other issue is we had to, when we went out and the ones the next day,
Starting point is 01:53:29 we had to try everything. Yeah. So we ordered everything. What was the thing they brought? The triple, uh, was the chop? Oh yeah, the triple chop. Yeah, and instead of, and the other thing is, no double cut, triple cut pork chop.
Starting point is 01:53:40 I mean, this thing, like that. But you don't even ask for it. They just, they're like, oh, witty, it's a big guy. Witty guy. And it don't even ask for it. They just, they're like, oh, witty, big guy. And it's just the food just keeps you. Push on. Yeah. Sounds sort of what about you guys are both Cincinnati guys kind
Starting point is 01:53:51 of. You spent time in Cincinnati. Skyline chill. Can't do it. Did you ever get into it? Never. That's baby food. Good job. Yes.
Starting point is 01:54:00 I love Cincinnati's baby food. It's secretly delicious to have once a year. It's great. Yeah. And then you get the kind of a closet thing. Yeah. I was showing you about your eating it. You's secretly delicious to have once a year. It's great. Yeah, and then you get the... Like kind of a closet thing? Yeah, it's a show only about your eating it. You don't want anybody to know about it, but you just want to try it, like one more time.
Starting point is 01:54:11 I was in the closet about enjoying Skyline chili for years, and I like it, but you can't have it every day. It's like you do the oyster cracker with a hot sauce, do a couple of conies, and then you do the... I think it's embarrassing to call it chili. It's the most disgusting looking dish in the world I'll put it on a hot dog, but I'm not gonna do it on this beginning But that's the thing that is crazy for all these people in Cincinnati who like go to skyline for lunch
Starting point is 01:54:32 Yeah, go back to their job. They might be the craziest people in the world. That's worse than the shower Yeah, way worse. Yeah, especially if they're wiping left-handed Oh, it's silly. He's sitting at your desk That's gross. Way you down. All right, who do you guys have in the soup bowl? Right now, we're in week 10. We're going to run this.
Starting point is 01:54:50 I'm living a lot less stress on me right now because I actually took the Niners Bengals as well. Oh. Well, match up. So the first six weeks of the season, I was not a happy camper. Yeah. Let's say that way.
Starting point is 01:55:02 I was really stressed out like, am I going to have to bash my Bengals on there? I don't know. But they finally got it going and now we're kind of looking like we're headed that direction. I love it. So I'm on the train again that I still think it's Bengals not. And I've had Ravens Niners all year. Oh, that's true. So that's why I said we're in a little bit of a battle next week. We may not be that friendly. There may be no lunchtime on Thursday next week. We're on the opposite sides of the Ravens Bangles match up. But we do need to see San Fran get back on track. We do need that. They're going to get back on track. Do you think that like Brock Purti is a perfect fodder for the first take
Starting point is 01:55:37 culture of like if they went five and oh he's elite, we fall for this. We did that. Like he's top ten quarterback loses three and a row is like, hey, sucks. What is he he's elite, we fall for this, we did that. Like he's top 10 quarterback, loses three and a row, is like, hey, he sucks. What is he, he's good. So quick disclaimer, we're from the same hometown, Gilbert Arizona. Okay. So I'm a little bit biased. Yep.
Starting point is 01:55:53 However, he is good. Okay. Even in these lost, look, there's been some turnovers, there's been some stuff, but like if you put on the tape and watch the game, I mean, the dude is playing it. We're too much. Yeah, you guys are big tape guy. We saw the film room right now, the simulator,
Starting point is 01:56:07 and the poop, and yeah, you grind. All 22. Yeah, he's just fine. He is. I think the thing is, is that I've been in kind of that mode of like, all right, I think the dude's playing great. I'm not ready to call him some top five, whatever everybody wants to put him on his pedestal.
Starting point is 01:56:21 And then they're like mad at the people who said this all along, like, no, no, no, look at all these other things. My deals, he's playing really well. There, I think offensively, they're also really good. They have a lot of talent and ability. But the thing that it's like to me, it's not, oh man, he's amazing when they're winning. And then he's terrible.
Starting point is 01:56:37 I think he's playing solid. He's gonna make mistakes. He's played some really good quarterback at times. He's made a couple mistakes last few weeks. They've also run the ball the worst they've run it all season for these losses. So they've not been that kind of team offensively as a whole, but he's gonna wear it all now, right?
Starting point is 01:56:52 Like now we're gonna be like, oh, it's all him. That's not true. I mean, you look out of, out of the Christmas Café's top runs, they're barely under over three yards of carry. You take two runs away from him in that stretch. So they have not been able to run the football well, that offense is built on that so they get back to doing that We'll get back to being Brock bird. He's amazing
Starting point is 01:57:10 Mm-hmm. And it was a Cleveland game where he drove them down at the end of the game They just missed the field. Yeah, I mean like literally quick tip. That's a quick way to get out of media You know, that was way too rational. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, he stinks. I did this during the trade Don't know that's an less need about people I think should go, like, hey, less, what do you think about this guy? This guy goes, wait, stop. This is the NFL, you're being rational. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:32 That's not how it works. Yeah, I get the records. And then if your record is good, then the quarterback is great. It's real bad. It's real bad. I took your advice, by the way, for this is from before I even started with the Amazon kid
Starting point is 01:57:42 and you said, just hot takes. And if you, if they're not right, it doesn't matter. But if you hit them, and I said a couple weeks ago that the cheese would lose three of the next four. Oh, it's great. It's great. Right. They lose the chart or they beat the chargers, but then they lose to Denver. And that's, yeah, now we got Miami and Philly.
Starting point is 01:57:58 Yeah. Yeah. That didn't work out. That's okay. No one remembers. Nobody or I should stop bringing it up. Yeah, you stop bringing it up. But that's all I'm'm gonna remember from you. Yeah, you really botched that chief When they beat the Eagles were gonna be like fits is a fucking moral. Yeah, yeah, I'll take it to you
Starting point is 01:58:13 That's on me. I just bet against his hot takes and work. Yeah, yeah, so one of us is an awesome Yeah, you could change your opinion material change every week. Yeah, it's easy perfect Yeah, there's there's one big question mark in the NFL right now and that's who's going to get the last seed in the NFC. And it could be anybody. So on record, who do you got? What dog shit team do you think is going to make the playoffs this year?
Starting point is 01:58:38 And so, but you are already saying like, we're taking whoever wins the NFC South out of this, correct? Yes, correct. OK. This, I always got to look at it with just to make sure that we're not like missing somebody because there's like four good teams four or five Really good teams that you can believe in well We had this argument again the year when the Rams were playing good start the season I was saying that I think they have a chance if they can play
Starting point is 01:58:59 They're gonna win more games and people think I think I have chance make the playoff because I was saying like outside of the top five That you want to pick in the NFC like who the hell do you actually trust? No NFC, nobody. So anybody can win it. The problem with them is they have a hellacious schedule. So getting a lot of wins was not going to be a very easy thing for them. I'm going to say, oh, I'm going to say Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:59:20 Oh, okay. I thought you were going to like Hanuki. Yeah, we love, we love it. We love Hanuki. Yeah, you like kind of I mean we love we love a big Taylor guy Yeah, he plays he plays a fun brand of football. He does he does. Oh, man. We're saying we think You know what I like Atlanta. I think I already picked Atlanta. I know I like Atlanta, but you know I think Washington's gonna make it. I like you. Well, that's fine. Oh, yeah. Really, Washington's making it around. And now you can steal this take. I'm giving you permission.
Starting point is 01:59:47 Okay. If Atlanta, or excuse me, if Washington makes a playoff and they get matched up against the Eagles in the first round, Eagles don't want to play the Commanders. They don't. Last year, giving up 31, both years. I agree with that. Yeah, Commanders compete the Eagles in the first round
Starting point is 02:00:00 of the playoff. And I think Sam Howes is the guy who's only getting better. Yeah. I truly believe that. I'm sure, am I okay? And truly, because I think I've reached the point. I think Sam Howells ago is only getting better. Yeah. I really truly believe that. Should it am I okay and truly because I think I've reached the point finally where I could say he is the guy and we should build around Sam Howell. Is is that a fair thing for me to truly believe in my heart or am I setting myself up for utter disappointment? I think that just to my point
Starting point is 02:00:21 earlier about how you put a team together I think that you do build around around somehow because you're going to need a roster to build around him. And if he ends up not being the guy, you don't lose in having a stacked roster talent to be able to, you know, the best way to replace the quarterback is have a bunch of good people room to play with. You're okay with it. So, go build a roster. You're okay with it. So, I'm going to build a roster.
Starting point is 02:00:42 I kind of have to be. Yeah. Because the defense was just atrocious. And in the past, they played so well, especially that defense line that played so well as a unit. Actually, in the years where Chase wasn't on the field, we were really strong. And then it's kind of a rebuild. Like the defense isn't working. You have to try to get something. I'm glad that that big cat got him. Yeah. I'm on test what's going to be there. Because I think he's a better player than Chase. Do you wait till after the game to see what Magic Johnson puts out in order to formulate your ideas of like how they play?
Starting point is 02:01:09 Oh, yeah, yeah, so if we lose I wait until magic Johnson says it's tough to It's tough to win a game in the NFL when you only score seven points and then I'm like good point magic We should try to score more than seven points. Yeah breaks it down Yeah, he doesn't play around his opinions after the game. I love he does not. He doesn't hold it after our game. He just really let him have it. It was great. He goes for it.
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Starting point is 02:01:47 He got caught in that. Have you gotten caught in saying something about someone and having them be like, what the fuck man? We don't forget. You know that Jared golf is like his best friend. Well, he's our best friend. Yeah, well, I'm outnumbered here. Okay, Mr. Jared poor man.
Starting point is 02:02:02 Anyways, Sam Howell is a poor man's Ryan Fitzpatrick. Oh, okay. Well, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Come on, baby. Have you had it though? Have you had it where you had some? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:02:13 I think I see only one probably for me that he could come back, but I still would say that the tape looked like it. I did say K-Bon Tibido earlier this year really needed to start pick it up because he was not living up to the hype and then he's had some good games. Now, I would also argue if we went looked at that tape, it was probably a lot of Zach Wilson holding on the football and running around with it, but he has played better and he is racking up some sacs.
Starting point is 02:02:35 So I feel like my take was a little more like, I need to see X, Y and Z out of you if you want to. That's good fire up. Right? So I kind of feel like I can always go back to that. You know, Ryan's, you know, he had a good moment. Jared called him out on set. It was great.
Starting point is 02:02:49 It was awesome. It was the best moments. You know, and I was in between, it's like my buddy and then it's like Jared, my little brother and he has this moment where he calls for, that was great. Like I want to see him do that. Both former team H is stuck up for Jared.
Starting point is 02:02:59 Yeah. I didn't stick up, I cheered on his going. Yeah. That was, we did too. Yeah. You're smart though to give yourself an out. Like we do that with the dolphins. Dolphins are frauds.
Starting point is 02:03:08 Yeah. But if they beat a good team, yeah, if they were super bored, then they'll pray to me personally. You just keep yourself up to win good playoff games. You're like, oh yeah, you guys call them frauds, like well, yeah, then they beat a good team. Now they're not.
Starting point is 02:03:20 Exactly. Wow. Yeah, it's easy to do. And also take credit. Yes, you are the one. These are all tricks to the game. We're vets. You're the one that that basically told Tibido. Yeah, Stimmed up do this and he used you as motivation. Now it's like motivation. So it's now almost like you're a great player too. Yeah, I called him out
Starting point is 02:03:34 And he answered the call. That's right. Yeah, my pump up speech to the Bears on Thursday football like I picked The Manders is a how the Bears been playing. I gave a speech. You know about you know Dick Buckis And you know that was the night and happened and so I was like you know what like let's live off off this guy I used to talk about being football players a stop-time what who's fault it is point fingers as it gets He is at all these things. Let's just go out and play football. Yeah, that's what we do and they go out and the beat the commanders You're not I'm an idiot. Yeah, I bet against them You're so I got fired up in the moment. Yeah, let's go win. And then I realized why would I give a pump up speech? And I didn't even pick that team.
Starting point is 02:04:07 And that was the neutral in the media. You're supposed to be a journalist out there and then you go out and you inspire a team to win. Yeah. That's fair. And that was like you should be investing. That was the best game. The Bears played all season. I said it at the time. I don't think it's a sustainable stretch strategy to have a legend die before every game. But order to just throw hitches to DJ
Starting point is 02:04:25 more and then watch him go. He's so great. Oh my gosh. So good. You know what Carolina could use? It would be crazy. Yeah. DJ more tech. Yeah. Yeah. Our Christian McAfrey type. They have to be smarter than that when they put out the report. They're like, we're looking to add a veteran receiver. It's like, uh, DJ more. Like, you can't say that, guys. Well, they're going to have a high pick in the draft. So they'll be a playmaker. Yeah, and then the Christian McCaffery thing worked out. Yeah, by the way, you can see it's on the panel. So we are gonna run this next week,
Starting point is 02:04:52 but we are right before the Bears Panthers game. I think I'm rooting for a tie, because that would actually be the best spot as a Bears fan for both draft picks. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm really rooting for a tie, though. You're gonna be the worst. Oh, you got to root for ties,
Starting point is 02:05:04 especially in bad games, it's exhilarating. Yeah, listen, I for a tie though. You're gonna be the worst. Oh, you got to root for ties especially in bad games It's exhilarating. Yeah, listen. I'm I we were we were both a part of the Donovan McNabb I 1313 tie that was huge Yeah, good job. Yeah, good job. I don't even feel like the bangles tie more games than anybody. Yeah, tie against the panthers Do almost tied against the dolphins. Yeah, they like the tie the burrow anybody. Yeah, tied against the panthers too. When I was almost tied against the dolphins. Yeah, they just like to tie the burrow bowl. Yeah. Um, all right. Well, thank you guys. Always great to have you on anytime you're in town come play on our little golf simulator. It was more like Lil. Like,
Starting point is 02:05:35 you know, not they don't know. It's big. Yeah, like Lil Kim. Yeah, like a repner name. Yeah, we're gonna now have to young you call this out. We're gonna have to build an even bigger golf. Yeah, we're gonna now have to young you call this out. We're gonna have to build an even bigger golf Yeah, you're a little young golf similar young simulator Young little yes, this is a great spot though guys. Thank you. Thank you Do you like drones are you going to Vegas the whole racing world is going and our friends over at Duracell Are putting on a drone show that's right before the race with over 500 drones And our friends over at DuraSel are putting on a drone show that's right before the race with over 500 drones illuminating the sky over Las Vegas. Hank, you should have lobbied to try to grab one out of the air. Snatch that right up.
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Starting point is 02:06:39 All right, Fire Fest, Hank, give it to us. My fire fest is I got a mutiny going underneath me that I it to us. My Fire Fest is like an immunity going underneath me that I gotta handle. That's a fact. My second Fire Fest is a literal Fire Fest. I don't know if this is gonna expose me for being, I don't even know, just having bad house. Talk it out.
Starting point is 02:07:01 House manners or organization. Okay, okay. I keep all of my bread in my, my I have like a it's not a stove That's it's a little bit higher up off the ground. You keep your bread in your stove. Yes, like it's a cabinet. Yep Okay, and the other night I was going to make Peter rolls and I took all the bread out I thought all the bread to heat up the preheat oven. Oh.
Starting point is 02:07:26 Preheat oven to 400 degrees. Was in the other room. I think I was putting some laundry in and then I smelt something burning. Realized I left a bag with two hot dog buns in it. Oh. And it was on fire. Oh.
Starting point is 02:07:39 So the plastic and everything. Plastic and everything. It was late. I was like, it was so bad. It was a late night. Like, I'm kind of hungry. Like, fuck it. I'll make some pizza rolls. And I was starving actually. And then it was late. I was like so bad. It was a late night. Like I'm kind of hungry like fucking I'll make some pizza rolls and I was starving actually and then I was so flustered about almost burning my apartment down that I didn't even make the pizza rolls and yeah my house
Starting point is 02:07:55 Smelt for like a day. Hey, before you turn your oven on would you describe yourself more as being like Snoop Dogg today or Snoop Dogg for every other day of his life before today? Every other day before today. Yeah, okay, that's what I figured. Peter Oles. Yeah. Did the Fire Larm go off? No. Oh, that's lucky. Yeah. That's the worst. Yeah. You live in a condo and the Fire Larm goes off. Oh, yeah. I did that one year on Thanksgiving and in New York makes a scene. Leroy was like pissing himself out the hallway because he was afraid of the noises. My neighbors came out and I was like, sorry for ruining Thanksgiving everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:33 Yeah, and I'll lay my knock at a cookie. I can even cook pizza rolls. So damn, I got to go up. Tough luck. You in Blake Bordles. Yeah. Yeah. You should get his recipe. He's figured that out. I'm sure. Yeah. All right. your fire fest my fire fest is that the the NCAA has rejected the most recent strongly worded letter from James Madison lobbying to be included in the Sunbelt Championship game as well as potentially a New Year's six bowl if they were to go on to feed from this point on so we're going to write more strongly worded letters in fact the Virginia Attorney General has now written a strongly word letter. So we have no shortage of letters that we are willing to write. That's letter writers on it. Yeah, we're going to get rejected like 20 more times.
Starting point is 02:09:15 I hope you have your rejection stamp ready on you. But that's okay because we've got game day this weekend in Harrisonburg. And I know that people in Corvallis are upset about that. Honestly, Corvallis had a very strong case for this weekend's game. So I do feel bad for Beavers fans, but Harrisonburg is gonna be awesome. They had Game Day back in 2018. It was massive.
Starting point is 02:09:34 And I'm gonna be the guest picker. Whoa. Hey. Yeah, it's gonna be very exciting. I can't wait to go back to Harrisonburg. It's been a while, actually just over a year since I've been back there, but it's gonna be very exciting. I can't wait to go back to Harrisonburg. It's been It's been a while actually just over a year since I've been back there But it's gonna be fun time excited to hang out with Corso hang out with Herbie
Starting point is 02:09:52 Put on a mascot head. Are you gonna you should steal a mascot head before Corso can do it? Yeah, what is the mascot for oh the mount is it the mountaineer app state? Oh, yeah, they just wear the hat with the gun. Yeah, they wear the hat. I would love to steal the gun. Yeah, don't you dare, Lee. Yeah. Okay, my fire fest is I was going to walk Stella down the alley the other day and there was some 13 year olds in my alley
Starting point is 02:10:18 and they were like, hey big cat, you wanna take a shot? They were shooting basketball. I was like, well, this is bad because they're 13 and they know who I am, that's bad. And then I proceeded to shoot and miss like 10 times in a row because I was shooting one handy while I'd still on my other hand. And I deflected and I was like, what do you guys think about Justin Fields? And then for the next five minutes, I had a debate with two 13 year olds in a Chicago alley about Justin Fields. Did you win? No, they agreed with me. Not the guy put but unfortunate how it all went down.
Starting point is 02:10:47 Yeah, but yeah. It was just like one of those moments is like, what am I doing right now? Why did I do this? Why, what am I doing? I'm just literally just missing shot after shot. Being like, yeah, you know, he hasn't really had a fair shake,
Starting point is 02:11:00 the injury with two 13 year olds. Yeah, well, you gotta get your takes off somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. I think it would be a great show, the injury with two 13 year olds. Yeah, well, you got to get your takes off somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. I think it would be a great show, a great sports debate show. If you had a host debating like an eight year old. It would be fun. And you could include anything like
Starting point is 02:11:13 who's better, Spider-Man or Superman. Yeah. And get serious debates with a child. Yeah. It would be fun. So yeah, the, yeah, just if you see me in Ali talking to a couple 13 year olds, those are my new best friends. So don't be freaked out about it. Jake, finish us off. Yeah, so Tuesday night, I was credentialed for the Champions Classic
Starting point is 02:11:31 over at the United Center. And I went to the media buffet and I got Red Sauce on my shirt, a new button down. No, no, Jake. I don't know if it's a media buffet. Yeah, delicious food, great spread. It's a sub soda. Not to get you out. Not to get you out. Yeah, delicious food, great spread. It's a flubsoda. But, nervous about the shirt.
Starting point is 02:11:48 We'll see. Damn, Jay. Yeah. You know what, if you spill red wine on your shirt, you know the best way to get it out, poor white wine on it. True. Poor white wine. Actually, yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:00 That's true. I did that one time and it worked. That is true. Yeah, that's true. It's true to have it it worked. That is true. Yeah, it's true What is true? It's a fact. What is it? Right Hank? He's not listening. He's thinking about Viva TV Yeah, 100% no, he's commenting under PM TV. This is pretty good. But Viva TV this week was 100% you were just looking at Viva TV. No Skryde to them all Yeah, yeah, everybody eat It sucks because you just shouldn't.
Starting point is 02:12:27 What's VVTV about today? There's a lot of stuff. I hate getting a lot of baseball. That was the first episode. That would be great. All right, numbers. 17. Eight.
Starting point is 02:12:41 18. I go 73. Three. 17 8 18 I go 73 3 Mate max 20 what are the other boys got I took the chain having to come in Can in 22 I like it 84! 84! 84! What are you looking at Hank? Just look at the water well. Love you guys. I'm a day to find you, shine on
Starting point is 02:13:25 I'm becoming real ugly, needless to say I'm on a city, I'm a little bit Just a little bit of life is okay, say unto me At least I'm better to be safe can't see me At least I've let it take me safe and so It would say I'm the only one who can't see me At least I've let it take me safe and so It would say I'm the only one who can't see me I'm the only one who can't see me I'm the only one who can't see me
Starting point is 02:13:54 I'm the only one who can't see me I'm the only one who can't see me I'm the only one who can't see me I'm the only one who can't see me I'm the only one who can't see me I'm the only one who can't see me I'm the only one who can't stop you to dream Dreams that you say is it all I hope? Just to play that word easily
Starting point is 02:14:21 You're all the things I've got to remember You shine away You'll all be coming for you anyway, you shine away You'll all be coming for you anyway J.On the land J.On the land You're on the land J.On the land J.On me, I'm on you
Starting point is 02:15:08 J-On me, I'm on you J-On me, I'm on you J-On me, I'm on you Oh, we can't take on each other

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