Pardon My Take - Ryan Fitzpatrick Talking Conference Championships, Stavros Halkios And The Ravens Loss, Ohio State Wins The Natty, Bears Get Ben Johnson And Tensions Are Mounting

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

Ohio State is the deserving National Champion after a great title game performance Monday Night. We talk Notre Dame/Ohio State and how much the Michigan game will still bother Buckeyes (00:00:00-00:22:45). Ben Johnson to the Bears and Big Cat tries to stay at 6/10 excitement after promising everyone he wouldnt get ahead of himself (00:22:45-00:35:59). Tensions start to flare up in studio ahead of the NFC Championship Game (00:35:59-00:45:21). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Djokovic still being the GOAT and respecting the Biz (00:45:21-01:15:09). Ryan Fitzpatrick joins the show to talk about his trip to Buffalo, Championship Sunday, what makes Travis Kelce so special and did he ever get the shot put out of his golf hole (01:15:09-01:52:58). Stavros Halkias joins us to recap another Ravens playoff loss, where he goes from here, and how he cant stop loving Lamar (01:52:58-02:17:56). We finish with listener submitted Pardon Your Takes (02:17:56-02:32:45).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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incredible team, one blemish on the record. Otherwise they, you know, kick the shit. I mean, they kicked the shit out of everyone in the playoffs. Texas was a closer game. Two blemishes, right? Yeah. Well, yeah. the Oregon game by one. Yeah, in in Austin, and then they avenged it by a lot by a ton. That one doesn't really count as much. But yeah, Ohio State was an awesome team. And they played awesome football down the stretch. And the new 12 team playoff, we finally have our first national champion from it. So let's look at the rest of the top 25 that just came out. Okay,

number two, Notre Dame Okay, beat them number three, Oregon. Whomped them. Yep. Number four, Texas beat slash. Whomped them I don't want to walk the walk if you look at the final score beat if you watch the game if you watch the game It was Texas had a chance to tie it very with two minutes left. Yeah, Penn State a chance to tie it very with two minutes left. Yeah. Penn State beat them beat, beat them. They beat him by seven. They beat a lot of really good teams and they had a very tough path to go through this playoff. You can't point to Ohio State and say anything about asterisks, Mickey Mouse, whatever. They were the best team in this playoff. Yeah. Best thing they got, they do have that big expensive roster, but to their credit, most of those

guys, most of the money from the roster is going to guys that stayed around. Yeah. So it was like, hey, come back to OSU instead of trying to declare for the draft. We'll pay you some money while you're here. They did make a big addition at safety, obviously, but it's a, yeah, it's a team that's been there

for a long time and credit to them. What a crazy season Ohio State had. Yeah, I mean, if you had asked anyone at the end of November, like, is this team gonna go on a run and do what they did in the playoff? Obviously it was there somewhere deep down, but you also were like, they're on the ropes

because what happened against Michigan was insane. But man, that four game stretch that they went through there, they were so good. And they're just a really, really, really good football team. Ryan Day proved the haters wrong in the fact that he can win a national title. Will Howard, happy for Will Howard, because I know that I've not been the number one Will Howard rider. I think he's a good quarterback. I didn't know if he was a great quarterback. He was playing great. I mean, that that play at at the end where Ohio State, the fourth quarter, I think we all watched it. The first three quarters you're like, Notre Dame shouldn't be on the field with Ohio State. Notre Dame gets a fumble, goes and scores. They get back in the game.

They're fighting, which they deserve a ton of credit for. And then Ohio State has the ball up eight at the end of the game. And it looked like they were kind of turtling a little bit running the you know just Will Howard right into the line and hoping to punt and be okay. It was like give the ball to Will Howard don't even let him pitch the ball don't let him hand the ball off don't throw the ball don't even let him get tackled just give the ball snap the ball to Will Howard have him run to the right and fall down. Yeah and then they call up to play the 50 yard pass to Jeremiah Smith. That was

gutsy ballsy and Chip Kelly chip Kelly was in his bag that that that first touchdown Jeremiah Smith was one of the coolest plays Where he had the whole side of the field completely wide open in a short yardage situation So he was on like the 10 yard line It's yeah That was a ballsy that was a ballsy gutsy call and Ryan Day proved that he's not gonna piss down his legs and he's a national champion forever That that call to Jeremiah Smith was the same call Kind of as they they did I think to Tony in the Super Bowl Mm-hmm where you move your guy in motion have him fake like he's gonna run a reverse or jet sweep or something like that

Send him back out and he's gonna be a step ahead in a short yardage situation again the ball it works all the time Well, it's a great call but it's also a testament to Jeremiah Smith and how insanely athletic he is, because if you watch that play and how he's able to stop on a dime, no one else has that stop and start that he does. So even if you play it perfectly and you're tracking him, you're still going to lose on that play. And then, yeah, he's an incredible talent.

And then when Notre Dame was tracking him across the field, he goes in motion and there's two guys that are like, oh fuck, he's in motion. I'm going to start running as fast as I can. And then boom, left it wide open. On that last, that last series of the game for Ohio state, when they're going down the field and they're, they're doing the conservative shit with, with Wilhauer, just give them the ball. Uh, do you think that Chip Kelly decided to do that to set up the deep shot? He's like, make them think that we're getting conservative and then that's going to open it up.

No, I just assumed that deep shot was probably an option play for Will Howard where it was like, hey, get to the line. If, if Jeremiah Smith is one-on-one on the outside with no safety help, that's where you should go. If he is, if they're playing something else, they're playing zone or something else, uh, then probably just run it again into the line and we'll hope our defense can get a stop. That's what I thought last night. Then I woke up this morning and I thought to myself, did Chip Kelly just fake out all of America? Cause we all bought into the narrative of Ohio state getting too conservative and just kind of pissing away the game at the very end. He might've just fooled everybody and said, we're going to

make you think that we're doing that. Yeah. And then bomb it deep. The very first drive of the game for Notre Dame. Did you think it was going to be a game after that? Uh, I thought it was a perfect start because it was a 10 minute touchdown drive. I did not think that it was sustainable for Riley Leonard to carry the ball nine times on a 10, 10 minute drive and get the absolute shit kicked out of them time and time again. Yeah. But like, if you ask Notre Dame fan,

what's the perfect drive, obviously maybe not Riley Leonard getting nine carries, but what's the perfect drive to start? It's 10 minutes, bully ball, completely erase the first quarter and score a touchdown. They did, they erased the first quarter. Yeah. But then Ohio State gets the ball

and they score in like three minutes. Right. And then you're like, what was all that work for? Yeah, right. So, but then Ohio State gets the ball and they score in like three minutes, right? And then you're like, what was all that work for? Yeah, right So I mean Ohio State was just a better team and and and I thought I said going into it I was like if Notre Dame can be plus two or three on the turnovers. They will have a shot I think they were plus one So they needed a couple more of those they really couldn't It was a bad It was a bad fit for Notre Dame and the fact they play man coverage a lot and that's what Ohio state just absolutely

eats alive. And they were trying to switch to zone and it's just like, they didn't really feel like they had, uh, the answers to all the problems that Ohio state's offense was throwing at them and Ohio state's defense is elite. I mean, Jeremiah love was, what do you have four carries? Yeah. Like he, I mean he, they're just an elite, elite defense top to bottom and they're, they were never able to really run the ball outside of that first drive where they went like all gas, no brakes. That doesn't mean that you can't steer. Right. And they didn't, they just were going to crash into everybody. And then Jeremiah love was just not part of the game at all. Yeah. Yeah. So in, in Notre Dame,

like I said, Notre Dame deserves credit for fighting because I think we all were in the same boat. Like this sucks as a dud. They did put a little bit, now did he get hurt? Because he had four rushes for three yards. He might have gotten hurt. I bet on him. I was monitoring him very closely. I don't know if he got hurt or not.

Riley Leonard had 17 rushes. But credit to Notre Dame for making it a game there at the end where it was like, you had to at least be paying attention when they cut it to eight now, or sorry, they cut it to five and then, and then they, Ohio State kicked a field goal. Our guy Marcus Freeman, who we like, great coach, incredible run. I do think Notre Dame's future is very bright and they'll be back in this spot. They've got, you've got a good quarterback coming in all these things. I don't know what he was doing with that field goal kick. I was shocked.

So for people who didn't watch the game, I'm assuming everyone watched the game, Notre Dame was down 16 with nine minutes left on the nine yard line and he brought out the field goal unit, missed the field goal because they rushed him out, but trying to make a two score game, a two score game. And there were some people who were like, oh, well now Notre Dame can win with two touchdowns if they hit this field goal. It still didn't make sense because you were saying

you needed, with nine minutes left, you needed two full touchdown drives and two stops of Ohio State. I would always take trying to get nine yards over that. Yeah. And they're like, well, what about the two point conversion? I still like you have to play. If you kick that attempt, that field goal, you have to play a perfect end of the game to have everything go your way to have a chance to even win that game. I'm going to play devil's advocate for Notre Dame would be Jesus Christ advocate for Notre

Dame. Uh, did you see the plays that they were calling and how effective they were earlier in that situation? Yeah, I, I, I still don't. It looked, I I'm playing advocate. Yeah. They didn't even sniff the end zone. Yeah. They were getting overpowered. It didn't look like they had a hope on fourth down of scoring a tight. It would basically be throw the ball up, hope that somehow a miracle happens. You come down with it. It was not, although their two point plays were really good, this was, you know, would have been a nine yard touchdown, but they didn't look like they were in rhythm at all to score touchdown on that. So Marcus Freeman was probably just like, yeah, you know what,

screw it, let's just take some points here. But then in that situation, you have to still go down the field twice. Right. And get two stops. I hated the field goal call. I thought it was bad, but I thought that probably had something to do with it. If they were close on one of their previous plays, if they looked like they ran a play that worked out anywhere near what they had practiced, they probably would have been like,

yeah, okay, let's take a shot at the end zone. But it was just, it was a bad series. Yeah, we gotta talk math with them. It's just two score game to a two score game. I don't know, you just, you got a bad series. Yeah, we got to talk math with them. It's just two score game to a two score game I don't know. You just you got a chance there. I still would let rather to figure out your best play and if you don't get it Okay, but at least you you went out on your sword Mm-hmm bring out the field goal kicker and rushing them out and having a miss the kick was just the worst possible scenario That was karma. Yeah, and then I saw people posting posting the stats of whether or not you should go for it. Plus minus was, and it was a toss up, but I'm pretty sure that on those

toss ups, they don't take into account the two point conversion too. Yeah. Like obviously if you're down by 16, then it's not the same as being down by 14 in that model. It's the national championship. It's a national champion. Yeah. I think you got to, you got to go for it. You got to be aggressive. You got to just go. I mean, again, you just and what ended up happening was Ohio State, you know, ended up getting another field goal to make it a two score game again. But it's just like, I don't know, you just got to go for it there. You got to I know it sucks. I know your offense had

no real answers. But you got to go for it. And I, Ohio State, yeah, I mean, incredible season. Ryan Day, is he going to get a contract extension? I was going to ask you, do you think Ryan Day's job is safe? I would say it's safe. Yeah, probably. But how do we think Ohio State fans, like this is one of those things

where you're national to champions and it's awesome, but it's still got to probably bother you that Michigan fans are like, but you couldn't beat us. That's the thing, like I've listened to a lot of sports talk today and every single time I've been hearing somebody talk about Ohio State, when they bring it up within two sentences, the word Michigan is used. Right. And that's, it's not an asterisk, you guys won the national championship,

Ohio State was the best team in college football. I don't think that you can argue that. They the best. They proved it through a tournament. They beat all the other top ranked teams in the tournament, crazy route that they took. But people are always going to say Michigan after they talk about this title. And you have to just embrace that if you're Ohio State and say, yeah, we experienced the lowest low that you could possibly have for our team during a season. And then we responded and we're better than everybody in the country. And they might not win the national title if they don't lose to Michigan. Like there's a world where that might have galvanized them and refocus them.

And they did change, you know, how they ran the ball, some of their play calling, you know, letting, letting Will Howard, you know, throw it deep to Jeremiah Smith more. So there, there is that world that like like that was actually the thing that pushed them to win a national title. They probably would have won it anyway, but it also hurts because, uh, the, what, w you know, Ryan day, urban Meyer, and then Woody Hayes, Woody Hayes, the most famous probably in football lore of all the Ohio state coaches has a famous quote, you can't claim a national championship without winning the game.

The only meaningful statistic is the number of times you beat Michigan. That's probably because it had never happened before. Well, and also it was a different world where you literally would just claim national titles. Yeah, it's ours. Yeah. And you technically like, you probably can't because if you have one loss, you can't claim a national title. So what we're saying- So a different world.

And Woody Hayes, he co-signs on this, Co-national champions Michigan and Ohio State. This is really done is this is just the ultimate build up to that game next year. Oh my God. I can't be incredible. I can't wait. And that big 10 is kind of where football lies now two in a row and it's I mean I know there's the theory that now that the schools in the north can start paying everyone over the table. It's it it makes it a little bit different than what was happening in the SEC. But if you're an SEC fan, you got to be like shit. And it's very cool. It's cool for sports just in general that Michigan went out had a 15 and 0 season. And then that game happened where Michigan beats Ohio State and Ohio State. Like both

of the premier programs in the Big Ten just put their nuts on the table and went back to back titles. It is, it is kind of crazy. Yeah. It's good for football. Great. You know, what's not good for football was having that game last night. Yeah, that was bad.

Yeah. No, it should be, it should be January 10th should be the latest. They play the national. We didn't, we didn't feel like it was even college football season anymore. At that point it was like, Oh yeah. The most important game of all is tonight. We forgot. Yeah. You can't have it. You can't have four NFL teams left and still not have a national title champion for college football. It just feels weird. It feels off. Stupid.

It was cool seeing those two schools on the field though for national title. Yeah. Credit to Ohio State. They were an incredible, incredible team. And at their best, they're up there. I think they could take anyone. But in Ryan Day, I'm happy that he can still live without having his house be TP'd and people calling and harassing him. He's got a little bit back, although there's probably going to be some crazy Ohio State fans who are like, that wasn't't enough maybe just order pizza to his

house if he loses to imagine if he does this again next year if he loses to Michigan then wins another national I saw this thing I saw people having the debate like how many losses in a row would you take to Michigan for one national title what's the math on that but that that's more interesting like how many national titles in a row would you want to win losing to Michigan every year because if you're Ohio State this year you're like fuck yeah I'll take That's more interesting. Like how many national titles in a row would you want to win losing to Michigan every year? Because if you're Ohio State this year, you're like, fuck yeah, I'll take that deal. You're the national champions.

If it happens again next year, then you're like, okay, yeah, pretty cool. Back to back. But then if it's every, I think maybe by three, you're like, I would just like to beat Michigan. Yeah. I brought this up after they lost to Michigan and you guys both told me if you gave them that deal they'd all say no. I mean the what to lose to Michigan every year. You said you said they'd you say fuck yeah I take that deal you lose to Michigan win the national title after they lost to I don't know. I was like if they win the national title does not

matter like no it doesn't matter because they lost to Michigan. I think it's yeah I think it's still so like I'm saying before the season if you had given them that deal They would have said no. I think there's some Ohio State fans. It would be like we we want to beat Michigan I think after that Michigan game no, but before the season Yeah, you said you're gonna lose to Michigan but win the national title I think there's some Ohio State lost in Michigan you guys both told me that they would have said We will not take that deal. We have to beat Michigan. I think I'd also like to say, what do you think it is now though, now that they've actually won the title? I think they got to beat Michigan next year. I think I was wrong right after to say that you would not take the deal. I think that

after the fact, it felt so low for them. But the way that it's played out and the way that they like battled back from that, low for them. But the way that it's played out and the way that they like battled back from that, I've changed my mind. I think that Ohio State fans are like just as proud of this season as they are of a lot of their others where they do beat Michigan. I think I was wrong about that hand up, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a shitload of ammunition for people out there to fire back whenever you talk about that. That's going to be the story of this championship for like the rest of your lives. When you say, yeah, we won this game. We won the national title. There will be somebody that says, yeah, but you lost to Michigan. Yeah. Yeah. And I,

I think that rivalry matters to such an insane point to those fans that as awesome as the national title was, and it's awesome. There's just a small part of them like damn that Michigan game really did suck and that that we know that like in the workings of the rivalry if you know Michigan fans you work with Michigan fans you have friends Michigan fans like they'll always just bring it up and they always kind of got that on you because that's just how college football now you could say that this is also probably what PFT was saying, like probably an overreaction to that game. It also is an overreaction to the, the way the new 12 team playoff works. Cause in, in all years past, in the hundred plus years of that rivalry, if Ohio state loses that game, they don't have a chance to win a national title. This was literally the first year where this possibly could happen. That's what I was saying with what he hates. It's like he said that because it couldn't happen. Yeah, they chose. Yeah, you can't claim it. So this is the new normal a little

bit, which I'll hand up. I've seen people argue this point when they argue against the 12 team playoff, that some of the rivalries games can maybe have a little bit of a diminished meaning because of that. That does suck a little bit. That you can go and lose to your rival and then still go win a national title like that. That has never happened in college. Like I was thinking about the kick six. Alabama would have probably won a national title. So that game would have meant nothing. Now the, the loss to Michigan truly the start of the championship DVD. Yeah. Yeah. But it was, it was a great football season college football

Season you got to do it earlier though. How good does that Indiana lost to Ohio State look now, huh? Yeah, they lost by a decent amount. Yeah. Yeah Signetti signetti and he yeah, you only lost by 10 in order name. He kicks people's asses. Yeah Okay, any other last college football thoughts Penn State next year max Penn State should be good next year. I'm just saying you went Michigan. Yeah, Ohio State I was just I was looking at uh the best part of when a college season ends you got to look at the way too early Top 25 oh year mm-hmm And number three Penn State number three who. Who's won Ohio State? Ohio State.

Number two, Texas. OK, give us give us the top 10. Notre Dame number four. OK. Georgia, number five. Yeah. Oregon, six. Yeah. Clemson, seven. Yeah. LSU, eight.

BYU, nine. And South Carolina, 10. I think you could just. According to ESPN. Yeah, you could have pulled that out of your ass, like at any point in the last four years and just put those teams up there. South Carolina's a little bit of a wild card there. Yeah, you gotta have a BYU, mix it up a little bit.

LSU, I'm sure that'll end well. Congrats to Ohio State though. Okay, what else we got? Any coach hirings? Well, there was also the tragic golf cart accident in the tunnel afterwards when that lady was driving Ryan Day. Who else was in that golf cart? I think Will Howard was in there.

Will Howard was in there and the lady, she just drives directly into the wall. It couldn't see the wall. Came out of nowhere. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't painted yellow or anything. It was a hazard. She drove directly into it. She was probably a Georgia alumni. Yeah. But yeah, it was a very, very funny, watch funny watch her steer bang she just didn't see the wall Ohio State coaches and golf carts name a better duo always works yeah that's that's me drove it in so bad you couldn't even reverse it that's yeah that's when you really yeah yeah the cops

had to come and they just started walking like all right never mind we're out of here it does rock to be able to just ride around golf course. That's my dream I don't know you wanted to release a statement. I would like how did she even think like for the record Hank wants to know So make sure to follow her on Instagram Hank What is her Instagram because Hank would like to follow her for the statement? Yeah, like me up like come up I'll do some journalism. Okay, what else do we got? Anything else? Some coaching hires.

Oh really? Who got hired? You said the Jets... Oh wait, it's three o'clock. Yeah, it's after three. Congratulations, Big Cat. On what? Ben Johnson.

I'm staying a six out of ten. That's such a lie. Such a lie. That's the first thing I... So, Big Cat's not a six out of ten because Yeah, such a lot. That's the first thing I would. So big gets not a six out of ten because I was in the gambling cave. And the first thing Big Cat says to me is like, the Bears just got Ben Johnson. Big Cat is all the way back. No, I'm six out of ten. I don't believe me. There's still a lot of work to be done.

This is the move that you have to. This is what I was talking about with Mike McCarthy versus Ben Johnson with Mike. I'm wrong again. Yeah, very wrong. Mike McCarthy safe hire. Probably Mike. Again. Yeah, very wrong Mike McCarthy Safe hire probably get you to the playoffs probably have you guys win a couple games Ben Johnson is a guy that can turn Caleb Williams into a superstar quarterback. Here's okay I'm not gonna because people are gonna want me to get ahead of myself not gonna get ahead of myself This is what I'm very very happy. I'm a six out of 10 happy, which is as high as my happiness meter can go. Ben Johnson, picking the bears and the bears paying the money that they're

going to pay Ben Johnson is a significant shift in everything the bears usually do. And that's, you know, they don't, they don't usually pay a coach. I think the report was 14 million, which is for a first time head coach is insane. Uh, Ben Johnson was the hottest ticket in the last two year, two coaching hiring cycles. He was the guy who was hand selecting which interviews he won. The Jaguars, the Raiders. I know the Jets probably wanted him. He didn't do an interview with them. Like all these teams wanted Ben Johnson. He picked the bears, which makes me think that he thinks Caleb Williams is special, which makes me very happy. And for all the shit I give George McCasky and the McCasky family and the bears ownership, they, they, they went and got the number one guy on the market who, and they paid him top dollar and that's very anti bears so i'm six out of ten happy a lot of work to be done got to get an offensive line got to get more defensive

line got to get kayla bright but i believe in ben johnson i'm very happy i heard one suggestion memes heard the same thing on on the radio this morning draft ashton jinty in the first round what do you think about that i've seen that as well. The Bears need a lot of help everywhere. So if they want to do Ashton Gentry and he wants to want to get freaky with it, I trust in Ben Johnson and I'm back trusting in Ryan Poles as well because I thought, I did not think that the Bears were going to be able to get Ben Johnson. I thought that they had screwed it up. I thought no one would pick the Bears. Ben Johnson, I saw a report with Ben Johnson, wanted the Bears job last year, but he agreed to stay for one last year with Dan Campbell to finish this thing out. And that's why the Bears ended up keeping Iberflues because they're like, we don't want to fire him now and lose

out on Ben Johnson next year. This also might just be a fan fiction thing in my head that I've made up. I was going to suggest maybe maybe it might be but a six out of 10. I remain he was like he had his eye on this is his dream job. The the Bears have a lot of work to do and Ben Johnson isn't going to be able to fix everything. But it was it's I'm as I'm saying six out of 10. That's what I was going to say. I was going to say something else. But I'm saying six out of 10. You know, it's crazy is gonna say something else but I'm saying is six out of ten you know it's crazy is you're older than

Ben Johnson yeah Ben John I mean that's a lot of coaches now yeah you are too buddy we're older than like every coach here yeah it's getting bad scary hours not me just wait close how old's Ben Johnson he He is 38. Okay. We're about to be 40. Does that count as boy genius? Could be. Is Ben Johnson a boy genius? He might be. I think he is.

I think for NFL coaches under 40 is. Yeah, he's boy genius. You have your own boy genius. Boy genius. And he must love Caleb if he's signing up to coach against the Lions twice a year. Coach against Kevin O'Connell twice a year. The Alliance fans are very upset. Coach against Matt LaFleur twice a year. against Kevin O'Connell twice a year the Alliance fans are very upset coach against very upset twice a year he was gonna leave anyway I know it's

a divisional guy but our divisional rival but he was gonna leave anyway have you reason you lost the game though basically being a crazy play called by like that that makes it sting that much worse yeah yeah it's like, that's not why they lost it It's like he tried if you're a Lions fan. Yeah, like you like that It that was the defining play of the game. Yeah, you had a really nice house with him He threw a party trash the house and left. Yeah I'm I'm very six out of ten. I'm as six out of ten as you could get Would you guys agree memes has been policing me? I mean earlier you said I'm a six out of 10 because I have to be a 6 out of 10.

If you took the restrictor plate off, are you asking what I'd be? Yes, I'm willing to get I'm willing to let you Say say your piece. Yeah, you should. No, no. Hank, are you willing to? I'm willing to I'm willing to. Be upfront, like be honest with our listeners. Because the takeaway right now is big cat grades the coaching higher a six out of ten and no that's That's my happiness I'm saying six out of ten they have to start winning games They have to do a good job of the draft before they're winning the offseason again I see I don't like that. I don't want to do

I'm not we're not winning any honestly you got to win in the season But I'm willing to say that you like I'm not holding you to your word on the six out of ten You can say what you really feel I'm not gonna say what I really feel But if I were to say what I was gonna really feel if I were gonna say it and again There's not me saying it But if I were going to say it and again, there's not me saying it, but if I were going to say it, I would say that hiring Ben Johnson literally changes everything about this franchise and it's all the way back. But I didn't say any of that. I stayed at six out of 10 the whole time. You can say whatever you want as long as you

follow it up with six out of 10. Yeah, I'm saying six. It's the, the, the, this hire is so different than what what the Bears are usually able to pull off and he was and the guy's a fucking boy genius and he is picking it because of Caleb Williams and the McCassey's who are notoriously cheap are paying a ton of money. Everything. If I were going to get out of the six out of 10 zone, I'd say literally everything has changed and the bears are all the way back and won the off season, probably going to win the Superbowl, but I'm staying six out of 10. So you got to go and do it on the field before I get excited.

I love just the idea of George McCasky getting aggressive with it. After all these years, he's like, it's time. And I should probably say sorry to Kevin Warren too, because he probably was the one who had to tell George McCasky at another zero, dude. Like, hey, yeah, actually, you're going to have to move that comma over. And he's like, what? Yeah.

It's not 1.4 million. It's 14 million? I mean, congratulations to Ben Johnson. When it comes to getting paid, this was a great, great way he went about it. Just say no to everyone. And then they want you more. And the Bears are going to go for it on fourth downs and get aggressive as fuck.

What needs to happen the next three years for you to maybe go to like seven out of 10? Oh no, I'll go to 10 out of 10 if they start winning football games. I say they have to do it on the field. No, but I'm saying in three years, what would you consider success or failure? They have to start winning games on the field. They start going to the playoffs. Playoff football is hard. So it's like, you know, if they go to the playoffs if they start maybe you know Beating the Packers that kind of stuff Although Thomas Brown did beat the Packers. He's won an O against the Packers Are you gonna get to above a six out of ten before the playoffs?

I'm gonna get above six out of ten as soon as they start winning games. Does that mean week one? Yeah preseason Yeah, no not preseason. What if they win? Last summer I said some really fucking stupid shit that everyone keeps reminding me of how stupid I sounded and I did sound really stupid and I feel stupid and I'm a moron. This summer I'm not going to say stupid shit. I'm going to say I'm excited about things, but I'm not going to let myself get over my skis and I'm not going to get to a point where I'm like, this is the best situation ever and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

They got a lot of holes. They got a lot of work to be done. Caleb's got to get a lot better. If they start winning games and Caleb looks better, then we just start ramping it up. It's a great hire. I think this is right hire that the, the best hire they could make.

I know. Congratulations. Like a six out of 10 should be a 10 out of 10. This, if you're a bears fan, it's a million out of 10. If I had, if I didn't agree to do six, memes is policing me to me. It was just following me around. Just like watching my moves. Like, are you staying six out of 10? Snaking the grass. Now, Adam Schefter did have a very funny spin on it. Shout out. Shafty, by the way, he was the, he came on this show and said, don't follow the pack.

Yeah. When everyone was saying that Ben Johnson was going to be on the Raiders. He had a very funny spin about it when he said that the Bears have hired Ben Johnson. He said, Ben Johnson has spent the last week putting together a star-studded cast of assistant coaches. And then there was a big picture of Dennis Allen. I reacted I reacted poorly that Dennis Allen's actually a very good defensive coordinator It's also really smart to get a guy who's been in the NFL for a long time and knows how this works as part of your Staff Darren Rizzi might be part of the staff I agree that should be awesome that getting a an older guy that has coached before good move Would you say that it is star studded with Dennis Allen not star studded, but Dennis Allen's a very good defensive coordinator.

So yeah, I mean, star studded is probably the wrong word. Sounds like Sheffty was getting out at 10 out of 10 excited. Yeah, he was getting really excited. I would have said very good defensive coordinator. Yep. An older gentleman, Dennis Allen is joining the Bears. Yeah. Now Rob Ryan, that's star studded. That is star studded. Shout out USC. Yeah, that is star studded. I'm very excited. Six out of 10, million out of 10. Bears are back, six out of 10. Aaron Glenn? Not yet.

Josina Anderson said they're working through some contractual moving parts. So negotiating? Negotiating, yes. Okay. Who is going to be your GM? the Commander's assistant GM. Okay, are they gonna hire him after the coach? I think so

I think they're gonna hire him together Lance Newmark Lance Newmark Okay, it looks like a legos Alright, okay. That's my only about are you and how do you feel about legos? Yeah, how do you feel about Aaron Glenn? Uh if we if we sign Aaron Glenn, we got the number one guy on the market, huh? He was number one number one coach per me Per your interviews. No, no just number one guy out there. No coach candidate on the market. You did not want Mike Frabel No, I want interview bench. I want whoever we hire and that's the number one guy I like that. That's smart. He's jet. I can't right now. I can't relate cuz we got the number one guy, but yeah

No, we'll see who got the number one guy during the season. That's true. That's true memes That is today could be the best day of your life. Also looking back could be the worst Thanks memes. Okay. Well in terms terms of higher same for you buddy. Same for you. Congrats big cat. This might be the worst day. Yeah, this could this could. Same for you. Could be the best day. Could be the best day. And I think Ben Johnson, he said that he he turned down the Jaguars because he didn't like how everything was set up. Yeah, with Trent Palky. He didn't like the setup there.

That means Trent Balke. That's where I'm shocked the Bears did it, because the Bears have a similar set up where Ryan Pohl's in the last year of his deal, but credit to Ryan Pohl's, Kevin Moore and McCaskey, they did it. So you will be happy with Aaron Glenn? I will be happy.

Leader of men. Leader of men. Get everybody going in the right direction. He's a motivator. Lions fans seem to be happy that he's going but okay I don't care and then and then we have probably Mike McCarthy the Saints maybe yeah and then no idea what the Cowboys are gonna do you gotta do Dion Leon Liam Cohen to maybe the Jaguars I think I think Jerry Jones is shocked at how much head coaches cost now.

Yeah. He's been out of the market for a little bit. He didn't realize it. And he's like, wait, he wants 14 million and he's never coached before? Yeah. I don't think they even talked to Ben Johnson. Kevin O'Connell reached agreement on multi-year contract extension. At what cost?

The cost of having that story leaked right before you had to play the Lions. Yeah. Now, again, we should know NFL coaches' salaries. That should be public. I think there's a decent idea of I know Tomlin is what 16 million, 18 million. But it should be like it should be out there. The team said Ben Johnson was 13 or 14. The team should have to tell us like they tell us what the extensions are for quarterbacks.

Yeah, I agree. I want to know that. I think Andy Reid gets paid 20. Yeah. Fan bases have a right to know so they can choose how much they want to complain to the owner Yeah, what memes you're looking at us quizzically? No, I was just looking somebody said Ben Johnson got six six years 15 15 a year. Yeah, okay. That's a lot of money. It is that the bears usually don't spend What do you think Aaron Glenn's gonna get? That's probably why this is taking so long ah

He sees his buddy get six for 15. Yeah, yes, if you're the Cowboys you got to get Dion at this point, right? Yeah, you got to make every every play to get Dion just have it be fun And then what are the Raiders gonna do yeah? Alright last thing how pulse check between max and PFT and pulse is strong Max I'm very nervous 50 52 beats a minute overnight last night Wow I feel pretty good about that Max is mumbling to himself a lot and saying a bunch of shit What is 52 beats a minute mean pulse pulse was that normal? It's pretty good Pretty it's it's good low though. It means that you're maintaining.

Mine's probably pretty high. If I had to say. Yeah. You're not... I don't think you're handling the pressure great. No. I feel it more than I've ever felt any pressure before in my life. Do you think that we're adding to the pressure at all? I have thought about this a lot. Oh, you're gonna stop thinking the difference of my nerves going into this game

because I work for the, I work for this company and I work for this show. I think about it like if I was just a normal guy that was just an Eagles fan, lived in Philly, but crack showing. But crack showing. Like where my confidence would be, I think I would be like a confident asshole. Yeah, and that's what we are. Yeah, Hank is finally aligned himself with the city of Philadelphia.

I think Big Cat's going to too, eventually, based on money reasons. And also the New Orleans piece that I shout out that one guy who was just like, why doesn't big cat just take his kids to New Orleans for the Super Bowl? Didn't think of that. Didn't think of that. That sounds like fun. Yeah, that sounds like a great time. Yeah. But in a way, because everybody is aligning themselves with the Eagles and rooting for the Eagles, that puts way more pressure on Max.

I don't know if I'm fully aligning with the Eagles. I think I'm, I have to figure out what I'm going to do with my, my Eagles future. If I might cash out because I, there's part of me, it's just like if the commanders win, we're just, it is also great for the show. So although I did tell Max that I was going to slash his tires, the Eagles didn't win. Yeah. So there's a little bit more pressure there. I'm fully aligned. And I might've also said that I was gonna get his girlfriend

To give me a key to his apartment. I was gonna beat him up while he sleeps It's all fair stuff. This is why we watch sports. I Feel I feel confident in the fact that I've I've accepted the fact it's house money and I have to kind of put aside all the shut up. Hey, I have to put aside put aside all the shut up. I have to put aside all the stats, all the like roster gazing that you do. And you look at all the dudes that Philly has, you have to throw that all away. None of that really matters right now. What matters is that we have the best quarterback in this game who's capable of

doing things that aren't Cape that other quarterbacks aren't against the Philadelphia Eagles. He's the hottest quarterback in the league right now. And the Eagles have a history. It's not the NCAA tournament. I think what Jay did kind of is. Something is happening. I just noticed something.

PFT, Hank called you a loser, and you said, shut up, Hank. You didn't say, shut the fuck up Hank Yeah, which makes me think that no, this is Philly. This is Philly. Normally you say shut the fuck up Hank Yeah, this is Philly Hank. You kind of accepted that when you said oh Max's I think you're I think you're digging Max. I think no your press. I mean, how often do you say? Wait, Max said that he's not so far. Yeah. That's a wind horse. He just went worse. Did you, this is Philly Hank. He, he, you might've half accepted the inflection of your, of your voice was not an, it was shut up, Hank, not shut the fuck up Hank.

No, shut the fuck up. Hank is, is a, is a motto in your, in your brain. Usually when I feel it, usually when I scream at Hank and tell him to shut the fuck up, it's because there's like a kernel of really mean truth and whatever Hank has just said and so I have to just shout him down In this one, I don't think Just doing this now Win orce, so how about that? This is a podcast but this this is for the listeners. You're all putting our fingers up. I'm just doing the Whithorse fingers.

Whithorse. Do you think you care to address what I just said? I wasn't listening. I wasn't listening. I was just focusing on the fingers. I was just focusing on the fingers. I'm sorry, say it again. Excuse me, BF, did you mind closing your mouth?

Say it again. No, I said it. Listen to the podcast. No, come on. No, it'll be fine. Just say it again. We're having fun doing the Whithorse fingers. Here's the thing.

You said that I'm always, I heard you say I'm wet. I don't care. Everything's fine. I'm just doing the Whithorse fingers. No, come on. No, it'll be fun again. We're having fun doing the wind horse Here's the thing. He said I'm always I heard you say I don't care anything. I say is the truth or something Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Um, it is it is house money. We're playing with no pressure and we're dangerous team and All you can put all the stats in front of me I think you could throw them out spreads don't matter in this game agreed It doesn't the spread does not matter at all. Unless the Eagles win by a field goal.

Which I don't think that they will. But they could. I think the Eagles are going to win by a touchdown or more, or the commanders are going to win by three. But you said Eagles first. Oh no. Big Cat just said, I don't see the Eagles winning by a touchdown. Oh no. No, I don't see the Eagles winning by touchdown. Oh

Yeah, no, I didn't say that. I said I said unless the Eagles win by feet three Yeah, so then at that that's why I said I see the Eagles winning by more than that or losing outright. Got it It's fine. Hey, this is gonna be gang up week. I'm not gay. I just Do it win, or gang gang gang gang? I'm gonna dye my hair blonde and put on a white t-shirt and underpants It's in on a couch in front of you guys because it's just gonna be It's gonna be just taking rods from all angles memes and that's fine. I've Wanted to command I am I am heavily debating

Cashing out and betting the commander's I think you mayors are gonna win though Yeah, you won't do it and I don't care if you do it or not you all right so when I do it So when I do you apologize to me no I because I'm not gonna first of all what am I gonna apologize to you for second of all saying I won't do it I do not give a fuck who you bet on this week. Okay? Alright, well, I'm saying I might not gang up on you say you can't say you guys are ganging up on me I'm like I haven't decided yet, and then be like I don't give a fuck. Okay, those are two conflicting things Look is right now you are betting on on the Eagles. That's why I have a few I'm living

I'm living in the present. I have a future on the Eagles. Listen, if the fingers trigger you we'll stop doing the fingers You guys can finger whatever you want. It's gang week finger away boys No, yeah, obviously this is you and I are going into this game in two completely separate modes of mind. Mh-hm. Modes of mind. Modes of mind. Yeah. Word count. Yeah sure word count I'm done. I'm just thinking. Yeah. Shut it down. It would be uh. If the Eagles lose this game my life is over if you lose this game you had a great season Yeah, this is the window. This is the start of the window and we could shut your window. I

Think I have thought more about that. Our defensive window is just beginning and that is a real thing Yeah, but our defense is coming over good and so young you're gonna find out something if we if we go into your house Though and beat the Eagles Then there's a new daddy. There's no way then then you can forget You don't run this shit anymore if that happens I Hank is Might actually be on your side the way he says everything look he's smiling Oh, you're smiling look at him Hank everything that he says there's a there's a Little word count max is so paranoid

This now makes the previous wind horse seem a little crazy because you're just you're just pointing at everyone now How come you didn't say fuck BFT usually you say fuck it was that point? Was that was good point? The fingers I'm excited they're funny though. I'm excited. And there's a good chance that the Eagles win this game. I'm not I'm not delusional. I don't think that the commanders should be favored in this game. I think the Eagles have a great team. They're favored for a reason. But I also feel confident going into it. And I felt confident going into the Lions last week. I did I felt as a week went on, I got I got more calm. So let's just

let's just see what happens between the Lions on Sunday, Max. Yeah. And made the better team advance this. But you should be more calm. That workout. I'm done. Yeah, I have to dig into the matchup because I do. There's a chance I bet on the commanders because I do think they're just something's Jayden Daniels so so special like i bet on him against the the lions i wish i'd bet money line i Would rather just win But rather win my bet then then have to look at you and be like you did it again You better watch tape buddy Watch it i'm grinding the tape he's word counting alright let's get to ourselves let's do hot seat cool throne

First of all before we get to that is jalen hurts okay? He's got a word count. You're gonna have to, well, first of all, that was a 20 minutes segment. It was a two part question. He's not a word counselor. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to find he's a ball. He's a gamer. Is he okay? Hey, he's a gamer. Yep. Is Quinian Mitchell? Okay. Don't. Yes. I've looked into how I've looked into the chief's drugs. I'm trying to get some of the homes drugs for Just straddle some of that shit, too. Yeah, they there's there's drugs out there for him to be fine. I gotta find them Yeah, I'm worried about big Dom big Dom can get anything Okay, let's keep ourselves hot seat cool throw and then we have Ryan Fitzpatrick and

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My hot seat is the biz. Oh, yeah people not respecting it. Yeah, there's not respecting it. Oh This is bad big cat try not to breathe if you have kids at home and They're listening this podcast. They might not want to listen this. Oh, no. Yes. Oh, yeah Yeah, after after the Notre Dame game lost, Dan Wolkin was in the locker room. Yeah, which is one of the funniest names ever considering everything that he talks about stands for. He's a guy that has, he covers a sport that he seems to hate. Well that's a lot of college football, but yeah.

But he, well actually that's a lot of journalism. Yeah it is. Like that's, when people ask like how are you able to do this job for as long and still love It's like because we love sports. Yeah, you're a lot of movie critics are like that Just like how could you how could you watch sports for a living in cover sports for a living and not like it? Mm-hmm. He tweeted bizarre scenes from the Notre Dame locker room players yelling at reporters coaches warning people not to ask certain questions amateur hour. Wow. No respect for the biz going on in the Notre Dame locker room after losing the biggest

game of their life. What a shocker. I can't believe that college football would turn into amateur hour. That is absolutely. We're going backwards. It is a disgrace guys. I mean, if I lost the national championship, the first thing I would be thinking is like, let's answer questions from the media and in a respectful Way, I'd probably yeah, I'd probably say fuck you to everyone who asked me a question Like lose my number bitch. Listen Dan Wolkin pays your salary. You understand that you got to treat this man with the utmost respect I I think we need to normalize more like bad losers like with that should be fans and players.

Like let them be sore losers for a minute. I saw our friend Shane Gillis was tweeting last night and like I think Jamie, Joe Rogan's producer is an Ohio State fan and was like, I wouldn't be salty. And then he replied something like, congrats to Tony Hinchcliffe, Jamie, like the Paul brothers and every other really likable Ohio State fan out there. It's like, let him be

salty. I thought I saw it dude. I thought he purposely left young Jamie out. Oh, he might've just to needle him. I think, well, I think he deleted that one and then came back and said it, but it's like, let losing a big game sucks. People should, like when people are like, oh, you're acting like a bitch. Yeah, that's the point. Yeah. Like let them act like a bitch.

You shouldn't act like a bitch like the next day, but yeah, fuck yeah. Yeah, I mean, what do you expect when you go into a locker room after a national championship loss? Yeah. What do you honestly, like I would be concerned with the team if they were just super respectful and like, hey, yeah, I'm open for questions. Ask me about field

goals. Yeah, ask me about everything. Ask me about that first drive and whether or not our quarterback was just on the E after that after that, like 20 play drive to start the game. Ask me all the questions that you think that I'm going to get pissed off about because I love that about journalists. It's the old saying show me a sore loser and I'll show you a loser. Yeah, show you a loser. I don't know.

I actually would, I think we should have like a 24 hour shot clock for big games, fans and players alike, that anything, they should be able to say whatever they want and it shouldn't count long term. And then you'd get actually real answers. You'd get people being like, fuck that. I also think the real irony is that the journalists that complain the most about players

Not answering their questions if you question them about anything they get the most offensive in there like fuck you block Yeah, yeah, Cisco. So you're out of here with the biz This hot seat or no respecting the business respect in the bits. Yeah, you okay? Yeah, my my cool throne is the nine darter. Mm-hmm. Okay Time has come So starting this Friday Probably seven or eight o'clock. I will be starting the nine darter journey now. It's obviously impossible physically impossible I could do this nine darter for a thousand years and I would never get a nine darter. No one's ever done it before

No amateur that I've I've heard of I've searched some forums, and then there's people that you know Reddit threads and stuff where they're like yeah, I've been in a league for 40 years never never been done getting an eight three darter is hard enough I've gotten you know 33 darters in my life never come close to getting them twice in a row. It's so the nine darter I will not be getting nine consecutive darts. If that bothers you, just stop listening. Can you explain what the nine darters again? In what a regular nine darters?

A nine darter. So darts is you started 501 points to start and a nine darter is when you go from 501 to zero in nine darts. So it's a perfect, it's three perfect rounds. You couldn't, it's an immaculate round basically. Like there's no, that's the least amount of darts you could throw. It'd be like shooting, you know, whatever, 18 under par. Like it's a perfect round.

Yeah, this is not. It'd be like getting a hole in one on every hole. Yeah, yeah, this is not, to put it into perspective, because I do think you deserve this, Hank, is like, it's not like hitting a hole in one one time. It's not like some of these, like, you know, hitting a 65 mile an hour fastball out of like a stadium. Like it would be like trying to hit a 105 mile an hour fastball out of a major league park. It would be like having LeBron guard you and trying to hit a three on his head.

For Hank like trying to dunk on LeBron. Trying to dunk on LeBron. It's shooting under par at Augusta. It's not like, oh, I can get one fluky thing to happen here with a hole in one, this will be awesome. It's impossible for the regular person. It's not even the three, bowling a 300. Like I think that you could bowl a 300 eventually.

I don't think you could ever get a nine darter. But it's like it's similar. So the we're doing the stream similar to like the bowling a 300 where you couldn't bowl 300 but after time elapses then it gets easier and easier. So basically the plan is to do three three darters. So once I get you know if I get three triple 20s then that leg is done. I like to get two, three darters. And every 12 hours I can get closer to the dartboard. So I will be living at the office until this is done. It will be a constant stream from Friday until Sunday

before the games. And if I'm not done by then, we'll go down for obviously the game stream. We have to record the podcast and then I'll start again Monday morning. So if it takes me until next week, it takes me till next week. I will not be leaving the office Starting friday until the stream is done uh, and there's you know, there's there's some some wrinkles we have where i'm not just going to be throwing darts all the time because

I'll just my arm will will give up but there's challenges and different things where the first and third Legs I have to do on my own but the second leg so that way Saturday we can have people come in and help out like PFT or big cat you know I can I'm not I'm again I'm not physically gonna be able to throw darts for 40 hours straight I might take a break we might have a you know whoever's in the office come in and they can throw darts

as much as they want if they get the first two I always have to the third one got like there's there's ways where People can help me, you know do a leg But I have to do the first and third legs on my own And then we'll have you know some challenges and stuff where it's like I might Go in the golf simulator for an hour if I get a hole in one then I only have to get two out of three darts Like there's we have challenges set out golf stream. Yeah. Yeah No, no, no, I'm gonna defend you here Do you hate me?

What are you gonna say? I was gonna say I think this is a really like smart way to do it I think it's gonna be fun for the viewers go fighting Eagles. I hope that I I Think that like Understanding the whole point is like it's a punishment. It's gonna suck for Hank. He's gonna live in this office He's making it a way that eventually you can get it But it still is going to be very very very very difficult So again, I will back up Hank in the fact that if you have a problem with this, just don't watch it's gonna be awesome I think it's going to take them three days probably still.

If I can get to before, because that's the thing, we're going to go down and we have to do the streams and then the podcast and stuff after. So I won't be like the my best case scenario is finishing before Sunday. If we don't finish before Sunday, then I'm in one. It is a very, very difficult challenge that you have. And I think the act of throwing a dart, it seems so easy, but if you do it for 12 hours in a row, your elbow is gonna be killing you.

Yeah, but I have to start throwing righty. But yeah, every 12 hours I can get a foot closer. So I think hopefully by like, you know, worst case scenario by Tuesday, I'll be close enough. And we also have, so scheduling wise is very very so you're gonna be doing it over the weekend Monday night, which we haven't announced but we're we are gonna have a Doug stream. We have one last Doug stream so I'm gonna try to win a national title where I Pick we're gonna just play the playoffs and then after the Doug stream

It's gonna go straight into the hole in one stream with Jerry and Tate Barstool after dark. So it could be we could have like streams going on. Yeah, we could have. And then and then also the case race to say it's going to be a chaotic week and there could be multiple streams going on at once. We could combine them. It's going to be fun. Hank, I'm rooting for you. I'm going to try to come in and help you out at points. Where are you going to be doing it on the court? We have the dark boards mobile. Oh, we can rooting for you. I'm going to try to come in and help you out at points. Where are you going to be doing it on the court? We have the, the, the dartboards mobile. Oh, we can do different locations. So when I said, cause I'm not going to be able to sit in one place.

So when I want to bring my kids into the, they can play in the office. You can, you can go somewhere else so they can play in the office. That's really the important thing here. No, I'm going to come in and help. Have you done any prep for, for your dart technique? What does that mean? I don't know like practiced or trained Have I thrown a dart before like have you learned anything that you're planning on taking into I think it's a pretty normal question To be asking fuck you pft. Yeah, my bad. So why'd you ask that? Sorry, have you have you prepared at all for this big challenge that you're gonna do? That was a normal question

You're you're you're listen. I See what's going on here. I'm gonna take a step back. Let me take your step in your guard. Your guard is off. Let me step in. It hasn't been 12 hours yet. PFT. Let me step in. What the fuck? He was simply asked. Yes. I have you. Have you been like practicing? Have you been working on it at all? Which is a, in PFT's defense, completely normal question. Yeah, I've watched some YouTube videos of throwing darts. I mean, it's darts. Like, it's, you got the advice, fucking Michael Van Gerwen?

Yeah, I would prepare for it. Like, a little bit. It sounds like you've prepared for it. How would you prepare? It sounds like doing the stuff that you you're doing where you watch YouTube videos Maybe get on the board a couple times and just take some practice figure out where the elbow goes me Personally if I had to prepare for this I'd just get nasty at darts. I'm bad at darts That's the problem. You know what it is. It's because it's the Mount Rushmore punishment. Oh is it is that what it is?

Yeah, and he's still a little upset about that. Next year let's just do no punishment for the Mount Rushmore. Hank, I'm gonna be rooting for you. I want you to do it because- You got this. I want you to be out of this mood. I genuinely think this is gonna be a great stream. I'm gonna- I was in a good mood till you said like I'm trying to like what I have to fucking throw darts for a hundred hours straight I'm coming up with little one hour wrinkles I mentioned one and it's just a ghost The one the the the wrinkles are gonna make it better your punishments are like the dumbest shit in the fucking world, but okay Good that we were getting this out. Yeah. Yeah, this feels good. I can tell that you're upset without a triggering comment

You know that somebody was going to make the joke. Would you rather come from me? Maybe not. I don't really care what other people say. Like I care about what you say. Okay. About this room. Do you care when I say that I'm rooting for you?

I don't believe it. But yeah, I guess we got to keep that. We got to keep everything in the locker room. Boys, we shouldn't have these. We shouldn't have these type of fights publicly. Okay. Let's keep this in the locker room. I think you can do it in.

No one will hear this. I think you're, I it's going to take you a day and a half. I would love to be done before Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But also with all these streams, as long as you sit- I have tried. I have tried throwing darts for, I don't know, probably six or seven hours total in the last month or so. Sounds like preparation. I haven't come close to a three-darter, so it's like, that's my fear. I'm not good at darts. Yeah. Okay, have you thought about getting a little bit drunk?

Yeah, I think Saturday night we might get weird with it. Yeah, okay. I got some, we're gonna bring some guests in. That's the thing, I'm trying to spice it up. I'll probably be sleeping on stream and stuff, but yeah, I think Saturday night after whatever, 24 hours at that point, there's like my body is, there's no point in, I'm just gonna get drunk and try.

Yeah, my recommendation- That's where it's like, that's where I'm gonna be relying on people to hopefully show up and get the two darts. And then that third dart, that will be the moment. I would tell you that if you get a little bit drunk, I would get a little bit drunk earlier than that before your arm gives out because you are better your coordination is like I don't know when I play darts. I always feel like I'm much better after exactly three beers

question then ah Sleeping on stream. Are you worried about boners? I'm worried about sleep talking. Oh Boners. Yeah, not oh no Sleep talking I didn't even think about that. I've already I think I'm gonna do mouth tape. It will probably just mute the sound I have to major issue in my life. Okay. Yeah excited. Listen if Hank gets a boner in his sleep, nobody screen grab it. Yeah Please okay You're in the locker room, it. Yeah, please. Okay. You're in the locker room too. Yeah.

Good luck, Hank. I'm rooting for you. Thanks. I'm glad that you did some preparation for it. I think that was smart. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah, you're welcome.

Okay. So I was going to have Dan Wolkin too, but my hot seat instead, I guess will just be me and Max's hair because we're trying to figure out what our bet is going to be for the Eagles commanders game. And it seems to all be hair related suggestions that we're trying to figure out what our bet is going to be for the Eagles commanders game and it seems to all be hair related suggestions that we're having so we've hank this is actually maybe a good chance for you you say my my punishments are always way easier. Bick it. Shave. Yeah. Because the the suggestions the suggestions wasn't even a punishment I did it yeah that's for a championship so this is for the championship game

The suggestions that we've been hearing a lot or the loser gets a mullet Which is your suggestion what you want to do, but he's been hearing it a lot. I've been hearing it a lot You're a lot. That's okay He's like hearing a lot when he when he is just sitting in his car and his thoughts are telling him things Yeah, there's been a lot of people saying that in my car I also have a bet that we could do we could could do the winner goes to the Superbowl and the loser doesn't. I don't understand why we have to do a bet for this game. I agree with that. I thought the bet that we talked about on Sunday night was a good

one where the loser has to make a Colts banner and put it behind their seat for a year. So it's like every time you have a shot on this podcast, there's a banner that says, but you just said the fans want to hair, but you don't care about the fans. Max. I just don't know. PFT is just like force this Max is right. The stakes are already high. Right. There couldn't be higher. I kind of agree with him that you don't need to do like it's not like you're not gonna care like the pinky bet We do as like an extra Pinky that I do it and it's stupid as a collective we as in podcast yeah, but it the We're getting into a bet culture that we're just gonna work

Because I Are gonna have to do something you don't have to do that might be physically this game has a lot of things to do it This game already has a lot of this isn't this isn't a podcast like it just so happens that no I Listen, I understand the stakes could not be higher But like instantly when it was gonna be commanders Eagles everybody was blowing me up saying what are you guys going to bet on this game? So what about people do want to see a wager on it? What about yeah? What about the? The banners the banners could be good

I mean that would hurt both of you like significantly because you will be in will be doing this show in August and you'd be like Right behind you every time you see a clip. It says it right behind you I Like big tone suggestion. He said that it's like from a higher Samurai's or loser has to hire him samurai's or shut up rackies that you put your hair in a ponytail The winner cuts it off with a blade to signal victory over his adversary. I Like your guys here. I don't really want either. I like no but that cornrows for a month That would be funny. That would make me laugh. That would be funny. I don't really want either of you I like no but that corn rose for a month that would be funny that would make me laugh that would be that would be funny I don't hate corners either because it it doesn't doesn't

affect you long-term yeah yeah every time you talk we're just like what is this like corn rows with like the the beads yeah yeah I like that the problem with corn rows for me is that I've got some seedlings that are germinating and sprouting up here and that could potentially pull the seedlings out Hmm Okay, so what? Talk about this yeah, what will come on Friday? We'll have a lot of a final What would you get yesterday PFT max doesn't want to do anything? I would do I would do cornrows

I don't want to do anything like he doesn't want to permanently. I don't want to permanently change my hair Yeah, I've been doing like this is my hair thing about hair as it grows, but like if we shaved What yeah, I permanently shave my hair you have a shaved head false Very false your short hair you look at your head look at the side of your head Yeah, well after I after I after I bick can look at the back. You also chose to do this No, you actually said that you said yeah, you said if the if the Celtics win a final I will shave my head Did that's insane that is that is so that is true. No, it's not I think you're fucking big cat big cat ass Derek white being like oh Hank will shave his head ah

Do it and then Hank was like sure if this happens, I'll do it. So that. But Big Cat set it up. Well, I asked a question. You can't ask questions. What I said, no question of an inner. Yeah. Actually, actually, but yes. Actually false. I said that if the Sixers won the NBA finals this year, I would say I would shave my head. So, OK, good point. So, yeah. If the Bulls win the NBA finals this year, I'll get a, no, you know what? I'm not, I'm just out of the pink, pinky bet.

I'm not doing anything. I was, it's good to say I was going to get a dragon tattooed on my back. I'll say if the, if the Washington wizards win the NBA championship, I will get Bob Carrington's face tattooed on my face. Okay. Nice, nice. All right, wait, so we'll figure this out Friday. Yes, we'll do something. We will do something.

Will PMTV have eyebrows? Memes are saying eyebrows. We're back to eyebrows. Eyebrows is good. Does eyebrows come back? Yeah. Yeah. Mac's reacting without eyebrows being crazy.

Oh man, yeah. Full body wax? Yeah. Eyebrows is good. Eyebrows is good. Great facial. Eyebrows is really good. I don't like eyebrows. Eyebrows is good. Why you can't even see yours. You can't even see yours. I don't like eyebrows. I still love my eyebrows. It's the one part of my body and my calves I feel really good about. Cabs and eyebrows. He's just touching his eyebrows right now. Alright. And And your cool. My cool throne is bulletin board material because Andy Reid is leaning into the

bulletin board material hard which I respect. You got to do it. You got to find it. But he's got he must have a team of people that are out there. And he's he's put them in a room saying scour the Internet scour the newspapers. Try to find any bulletin board material that you can get so that we can feel like we're, we're underdogs going into this game. And that's what a good coach should be doing. He's got to the point now where he's just making stuff up though. Cause he said, I presume the bills will probably be favored,

but that's all right. We'll do our thing. It doesn't matter if it's true or not. If you tell your team, Hey, you're the underdogs. The bills are favored. Good. You can just lie about that. And it's all good. But yeah, he's been, he's been looking out there. Uh, and it's all good. But yeah, he's been, he's been looking out there. Uh, and the fans have to, which I again, full respect, you gotta find any motivation where you can get it. And now Max and I are in the bulletin board war with each other,

which is good. This is healthy stuff, but it's like every team, you have to feel bad to make yourself work. I mean, the ultimate bulletin board material was losing to Michigan. if you're Ohio State. That was the best thing they could have ever hoped for in order to motivate them to galvanize and come together. So yeah, if you're a Chiefs fan, I would just deputize yourself as an internet sleuth,

find whatever bulletin board material you can get and send it to the Chiefs, because they're scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find it now. Yeah, I saw that clip, I was like, this is just not true not true, but but it doesn't really matter doesn't matter Doesn't matter if Andy Reid says it it's true. Yeah, okay my Hot seat is Carlos Alcaraz because he got fucking worked. Oh By the by by Djokovic the goat oh hmm was your favorite part of the match it

was when Djokovic beat him three to one mm-hmm oh and Djokovic is 37 years old and I thought big bad Carlos Alcaraz no one can beat this guy he's the fucking next guy oh not so fast oh oh oh what was that one year that he didn't win the Australian Open because they kicked him out of the country because of his he didn't want to be vaccinated Shit getting kicked out of a country rocks. Yeah, that's like the coolest thing that you also you see that Yeah, there was a there was already a little controversy because there was a reporter like it looked like a like good day America whatever the show is like for Australia, and he just bashed the die Joe

Djokovic and his fans and then they that same TV station wanted to ask him a question after the interview after his first match He's like I'm not answering from you guys mm-hmm fuck that oh That's my goat bizarre scenes from the Djokovic locker room, deeply unprofessional amateur amateur hour. So yeah, I love the American who what's her name? The American woman that's down there in Australia that's just yelling at the fans. I don't know. She's the best Coco. I know not Coco. There's one lady that's from America. She goes down to Australia and she's like talking shit to the fans like, do you guys mind shutting up while I'm playing? Lisa

Leslie, they start to bill her and she's like putting her hand up to her Ear like give me more. She's the best. Yeah, I love a good tennis troll. Love it. All right, and then my Other hot seat actually is I didn't know that maybe this happened and I just missed it But I didn't realize that the Gulf of Mexico is not the Gulf of Mexico anymore Gulf of America. Yeah, that's fucking badass We just renamed it. Yeah, and soon Mars is gonna to be ours too. Hell yes. Let's go start claiming stars. Gulf of America does not sound great. Well, because the thing is, I don't really under when you go to the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah, if you go there for spring break, then it sounds like way less exotic if you go to the Gulf of America than the Gulf of Mexico, you can go to the Gulf of Mexico and be like, I'm in Destin,

but you feel like you're in Cancun. Right. And also doesn't the Gulf of America than the Gulf of Mexico, you can go to the Gulf of Mexico be like I'm in Destin, but you feel like you're in Cancun, right? And also doesn't the Gulf of Mexico have a bunch of oil spills? We should probably keep the branding there. No that happened in the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying Yeah, but keep it but there's like I feel like every year just in Florida's in the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah, it's a body of water Yeah, all right, so I take it back. I like that So yeah, but yeah, but got to your point, the goal, the oil spills happened in the Gulf of Mexico, like do we think also in America has not had an oil spill. There's going to be more oil spills. We should

probably just keep it Gulf of Mexico. Then it gets renamed back to Gulf of Mexico for like two weeks during the oil spill. Yeah. And then my cool throne is Zuck because he was checking out Bezos,' wife's tits. And that was the first time I was like, this guy might be human. Yeah. That was cool. He did a good job, Zuck. Was she wearing just like a lace bra?

Yeah, it was like lingerie. OK, let's normalize that. Yeah. Hell yeah. I respect her right to wear that. And also taking a peek. Yeah. Looks are free.

But it was funny, just because like Zuck is the last person that I would expect to get caught in 4k doing that. Yeah, I don't know if he had a recent software upgrade or whatever. It's like you have to start finding women attractive now. Yeah. And have the have the capability for lust. Good job. Good job, Zuck.

You passed the test. They also were like, RFK, there was a clip of her taking off her jacket and RFK passing the test by not looking Arfcase probably just gonna fuck that later. Was that not AI? I Know where she took off her jacket Oh, maybe she's take over Jack, but it was a clip just wearing a bra No, it was a clip of her standing in front of RFK and he wasn't looking down. Okay, got it He was shoot there was a real clip of her like

Turning around putting something down on a chair. Yeah. Rfk kept his gaze straight ahead, but no, an rfk is just going to hit that later. He's getting a sales can't do shit. He's looking he's he's using that peripheral vision. Yeah. Yeah, he's got their lives. Trump also said again, he was going to release the JFK files. Oh, that'd be sick.

I'm very excited about that. I think it's a dude that lives basically in Chicago that did it. He's an old guy and was in the mafia or mafia related. Yeah, Jack Ruby was the guy who killed Harvey Oswald and he had ties to the mafia. Yeah, it's mafia, CIA, Cuba, co-hit. Could be interesting.

Collab? Yeah, it's a collab. It's crazy. The most ambitious crossover event of all time. Yeah, like the the the mafia came up with it. Cuba did the the second verse. And then the CIA probably mixed it featuring CIA. Yeah, I heard that news. I was like, mind blown. CIA? How do they get involved? Well, this dude, this dude was a special forces guy overseas, worked for the CIA and the military back in Vietnam. He was over in Laos. And then he came back here. He had all the training. He helped train the Bay of Pigs operation. That got shot down by Kennedy at the last second. Then the CIA was pissed at Kennedy. He's one of their special forces guys that works for him. He goes down meets up with Lee Harvey Oswald

Lee Harvey Oswald gives him the gun. It's a whole thing. Yeah, I think but this dude there is a guy that's confessed to shooting RFK Or excuse me JFK in the head and he lives in Illinois. He lives close by we got to get that driver He was not the driver. Yeah, the driver did shoot him as well. Yeah, it happened. I watched that replay Okay, Gene's territory been like like yeah, that was a right call good. Hey, that's targeting. Yeah All right Let's get to our interviews. We got Ryan Fitzpatrick and then we have our good friend Stavros talking about his Baltimore Ravens which is painful, but Let's hit our interviews and we'll finish up afterwards with partner take.

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right before kickoff shirt off, lead the charge, say the cheer, the Ravens get the kickoff. They go right down and score seven points. So I don't think I had much to do with the win. Okay. My voice is shot, a lot of tailgating, a lot of cheering. My shirt was off from right before kickoff to when I got into the green room in the back where the fans couldn't see me. And then I put four different layers of jackets

and coats on with my mittens and my gloves. But it was, I mean, electric. The crowd was awesome. And it was such a great game. So happy that the Bills are moving on to the conference championship yet again. Yeah, it was a great game. Do you think that there's anything different about this Bills team? Because I am leaning very high.

I know that I shouldn't bet against Patrick Mahomes. I understand that it's happened before, but I'm feeling like this Bills team might be different this year. Tough environment to go into, but do you see the same thing? Do you feel like there's a difference between this team and what we've seen in the past? Well, I'll say they look a lot like the chiefs, right? I mean, they've kind of morphed into this team that doesn't turn the ball over.

They're able to possess it and they don't have a ton of explosives in the last few weeks on offense, but Josh has played really efficient. The thing that gets me about Josh now, looking at him now versus like five years ago, he's so patient. When you're watching the game, he's not forcing stuff down the field.

That being said, and if you look at the last game with Kansas City, he's gonna have to hit some go balls down the sideline. They play a lot of man coverage. Amari Cooper was involved in that first game. He's gonna have to be involved again. Keon Coleman's gonna have to be involved again. So it's been interesting

because they sort of have evolved into this team that looks like Kansas city on offense now, but I think it's their time, man. I mean, Kansas city has been so good. Obviously Patrick Malhomes has been so good, but I think it's their time. They do feel a little bit different this year. Yeah. I mean, they do run the ball well, the bills and it feels like they're very balanced. I'm a little nervous still about that. Uh, it feels like the bills, middle of the field defense is not, it, it, that's where they're vulnerable and on the other side, there's a hall of Famer who is now what, uh, I think

we had the stat 14 straight playoff games where he's had 70 yards or more in Travis Kelsey. What from you, when you're watching the games and you're watching maybe the film after what, what makes him so special and what is he doing that like other tight ends aren't able to do? Well, his, his rules are different than every other tight end in the game. He gets to do whatever he wants. And that's just something that over time he and Patrick, I mean, they, they're so on the same page. So for example, if he's got a 12 yard out route, well, if it doesn't look like it's going to be open, he can turn in or he can run his out route and then stop or he could just keep running vertical. And for me, that would be

really difficult because I was so much about like the timing and getting it out when it's supposed to and but with him and Patrick They're the same mind. It's unbelievable. He's got such a great feel for the game And even as you've seen maybe his athleticism come back a few notches the last few years He's still just as effective because of how smart he is and you'll see his own coverage He's gonna get the ball quite a bit because he's going to be able to find those holes. Patrick's going to be able to look around the field and then find him over the middle. So it's amazing to see what he's doing. And of course, you know,

the playoffs come, he wakes up and is the same old Travis Kelsey again. Did you ever play with someone who you gave them their own rules or had any of that like free flowing, like, Hey, uh, we're going to play this a little different where I know that I trust you so much. You're going to make the right decision and you can improvise a little. Yeah. So there were two guys in the first one. If you guys remember Stevie Johnson and Buffalo. So we did, we did a lot of three by one formations and a lot of

that, you know, the, the one was just Stevie on the backside. If it was man to man, you know, I was going to throw it to him. If it was zone coverage, I was going to go to the three receiver side. So I came up with what we called a you do you route and it would just give them the Y and that meant Stevie, you do you buddy, whatever you want to do, a slant to go a hitch just get open. Yeah, and he was phenomenal his releases You know you talked to guys you talked to Rivas you talked to sherm Those are when they say who gave you the most trouble, you know They would say Stevie Johnson was one of the guys at the top of the list He was so difficult to cover and then Brandon Marshall was the other guy just so smart

And some of that with him was like, hey, you can run an in-cut here, but if the safety comes down, go ahead and make it an in and a go up the middle of the field. But you have to really trust the guys to be able to do that. So there weren't a whole lot of those guys in my career, but those were two of them for sure. Yeah, yeah. And then on the outside for the Chiefs,

you have Xavier Worthy, who started off the year a little shaky. They would give him the ball in space sometimes and design some plays where they could just use the speed. And then he kind of hit like a lull in the middle of the season. He was he had like the worst sideline awareness for a while. Why is he just like, catch the ball one foot down, let's get out of bounds. But towards the end of the season, he's looked a lot better.

And it feels like if we're doing like the narrative, if we're looking back and I'm imagining what I'm going to be saying on Monday I could see a world where I just focus and say how did the bills let this let let this guy go to Kansas City How do you make that trade? It feels like a big narrative and like the next brick in the wall of sadness for Buffalo to get beat by the guy that That you gave to Kansas City But what have you seen from Xavier Worthy this season as it's progressed that shows you that he's becoming

a real threat? Yeah, well, I can tell you the Buffalo fans are hoping that Keon Coleman has a big game for that reason, to kill that narrative. But I mean, Xavier Worthy, perfect situation for him to be in, because Andy Reid, he's a mastermind, he's an offensive genius, and so that speed and the way they've been able to incorporate him.

Different ways of getting him the ball. It's obviously not all just down the field stuff at some of the reverses and some of the you know, cute plays that you can really take advantage of his speed, but I think eventually they're going to hope that he evolves into more

than just a gadget guy and Um, and he's shown, he's shown some potential this year, but as you said, some of the sideline awareness and some of those things that it's going to take to be a true number one receiver, he, he's just not there yet, but I could promise you when teams are playing the chiefs, he's one of those guys that they're going to circle and they're going to say, we can't let this guy ruin the game. They're going to know where he is on every play. Yeah. All right. I w we're obviously going to talk about the NFC championship game and what Jayden Daniels has been doing, but I, a question just popped in my head that I realized I don't think I've ever asked a quarterback this, uh, Jake Elliott has struggled. If you're

in that locker, if you're the quarterback of a team and you know your kicker is going through it, what is the mentality in these games? And are you, are you just avoiding him altogether? Are you, are you thinking to yourself like, Hey, if we're, uh, you know, at the 35, like we really got to get five more yards because he sucks right now and he's something's going on with his head. How does that affect you as a quarterback? I realized that I never really asked that question. It might, the answer might be like, it doesn't affect us at all. Well, I mean, it would affect how I go about the week, which is trying to instill confidence in him, letting him know that we still believe in him, you know, letting him know that there's

going to be a big kick or a big moment in the game where we're really going to need you and I've got your back. I believe in you a hundred percent. So it's that part of it, letting him know that there's going to be a big kick or a big moment in the game where we're really going to need you. And I've got your back, I believe in you 100%. So it's that part of it, which is the mental part of it. And then it is when you're in those offensive meetings, especially with the play caller or the head coach, you have those discussions of, okay, where are we thinking we're going to go for it? If it's fourth and five on the 35, like you said, this is a situation

this week, you know, where we could potentially just go, we're going to go for it every time we don't feel comfortable unless he's inside the 45. And even there, you know, points are going to be at a premium this game. Maybe if it's less than fourth and four, we're going to matter what. And you saw that with a team like Detroit this year and, you with Washington and how unbelievable they've been on Fort Down this year. It's a mentality and guys take a lot of pride in it. And if you know beforehand, okay, coach is putting it on us as an offense. That's a real motivator for you to get it done as an offense.

And so I think that's where I would be a lot of closed door whispers that Jake's not going to hear, but then outwardly you're trying to, you know, breathe some confidence into him. Do you w when you're on the sideline, do you watch the kick? If you know your kickers struggling, do you watch the kick or do you close your eyes? I think I'd close my eyes. No, no, I'm always, I'm always a kick watcher. Okay. Are there guys that you know, like in the, in the locker room that are not kick watchers, Like there's a divide. Like we got our kick watchers and not kick watchers, some K watchers. Yeah. Some K watchers. Yeah. Usually they go hand in hand. If you're a sea watcher, you're a K watcher usually and vice versa. Yeah. I, you know that Jake knows that those conversations are happening. Yeah. Like you can have the whispers behind

it. There's a lot of whisper. Well, it's like every conversation he thinks is about him. Yeah. When you're playing quarterback and you're not playing well, you know, and it's like, am I going to get benched or am I not? And those whispers are happening everywhere. And you walk in a room and it goes silent, you know, Hey guys, yeah, you know they're happening but it's those those inner demons, man. You got to fight them. You just got to go out and rely on your technique. And you um, you know, just, I would tell him, you're here for a reason, man. You've made a lot of big kicks in your career. Yeah. You gotta be careful about gassing them up too much. Like then he knows like this

is okay. You just compliment me on my park job that I had this morning. Hey, great job, Jake. You really split those lines. Perfect job. I also, I would definitely like bus balls and be like, you're here for a reason, Jake. And it's because it's way too late to find another kicker or something like that. And then probably just completely go against what I was trying to do. That's like a Tuesday. That's a Tuesday conversation. Yeah. For a reason. It's because we haven't killed you yet. Yeah. So you're welcome. That's how much we believe in you're here for a reason. The only other free agent out there that could get here in time was Cody

Parky. Yeah. But I'm obviously super excited for the NFC championship game. Um, it feels kind of surreal that Washington is in the NFC championship game This quickly into a turnaround. I love what they've done all the credit to Adam Peters for getting good veterans Nailing some draft picks and uh, and getting Dan Quinn on board. But I was actually watching the tape, Fitzy. This is how... Oh, look at you. This is my level of preparation.

I've been grinding the all 22. Last night I watched the Thursday night game that the commanders played against the Eagles in Philly. And I was just watching Jaylen Carter the entire time because that guy wrecks everything. He scares me. And the fact that Sam Cosme are best offensive lineman some might say He he's out probably for a long time with an ACL and he lines up directly across from Jaylen Carter So now we've got a backup coming in trying to stop this guy What as an offense would you look to do because you can't take him out of the game. It's impossible.

He's going to find a way to make some plays, but what would you do to limit his effectiveness and stopping you? Yeah. Well, you nailed it. I'm really worried about that matchup too. And even with Cosme, I mean, Carter's just been an issue, right? But with Sam being out, that's a big deal. I think, you know, they're built for it. The way that Cliff Kingsbury runs his offense, getting it out quick, you know, making sure that some of your shot plays are the plays you're going to hold on to the ball a little bit longer

happening later in drives. I think that's part of it. So getting them gassed a little bit, making sure that, you know, you're getting your first downs and extending your drives and then maybe on the sixth play of the drive, okay, Jalen Carter just had four pass rushes in the last five plays. Maybe this is one we can hold on to it longer. Those things, they have to go in your head and then protection schemes are the same thing. But Philly is really good up front. So it's not just one guy that's going to be the guy obviously they're going to circle and say we need to know where he

is on every play, but big loss for the commanders. Um, but the other equalizers just Daniel's and the way he moves, man, he's so cool and calm back there, escaping the pocket is obviously one of the best things that he does. And then when he escapes up inside, taking off and going, you know, I decided we had that Thursday night game, but to look more at the last game that they played. So I think Jay Daniels was a little injured kind of in the middle of the season.

I don't know if it was a rib or something, but it just looked like something was going on. So that last game, I just watched it again this morning from week 16 was unbelievable. Obviously five touchdown passes, but he ran for 81 yards as well. That's going to be a huge factor in the game. And then just confused at why the Eagles didn't run the ball more in the second

half. Yeah. It just, it was kind of a weird game plan after, uh, Jaylen Hertz went down, but the commanders are going to have to score a bunch of points to win this game. But the great thing about that is they're explosive and they can and they've showed it and they've scored 40 points a bunch of times this year. They just did a verse Detroit. Yeah. Is, is, um, is Jalen hurts good? I think he's good. Good question. But I, there's sometimes where I don't know, but I, I do. If you ask me, come to your head like I jail and hurts is good. But then sometimes

I watch him. I'm like, wait, is he? Yeah. I mean, you, you know, you get in trouble for making quarterback there. I do all the time, especially now that I'm new to Twitter. Oh my God. The Eagles fans hate me. I saw you did. I saw you got roasted for saying Justin Herbert's a top 10 quarterback. Yeah. I think I said he's a top eight, but not a top five. He's not on the Mount Rushmore at the top four. And, oh my God. But it's also like, then there's restraint of, I don't, I'm not gonna do a victory lap.

I'm not rooting against the guy. And I hate that, you know, he had the playoff game that he had and they lost. But, but I, with Jalen Hurts, I go back to the game in the Super Bowl versus the Chiefs. Yep he had one fumble but other than that he was lights out that whole game on the biggest stage he was unbelievable. I think they have struggled a little bit in the rhythm passing game. I think when he has to throw the ball over the middle and not to the outsides that's where he struggles a little bit

more but he's an elite go ball thrower. He's got a great deep ball. They've obviously got two guys that can go and get it. But the addition of Saquon, you know, it just plays into the strengths of what he is as well. Like Jaylen Hertz is an elite runner. And you know, he's, we'll see what happens with his knee and how healthy he is when he comes out.

But Jaylen Hertz is the perfect quarterback for that system, right? System they're in. Yeah. That's okay. That's I like that answer. Cause I, I, again, I do think he's good. It's just, there are times it's more, I guess the Eagles offense at times is like, what am I watching? Cause I expect more because they have so much talent everywhere between their offensive line and their outside guys in Saquon. But there's guys, there's quarterbacks. I think we all know who they are. We have our top four with Burrow, Allen, Mahomes and Lamar. Jay Daniels is now in this conversation of

you could pick them up and drop them in any situation in the NFL and they're going to be elite. And then there's other guys that you could sprinkle around and put them in the right systems. And I think Tuah is like that. I think Brock's like that. I think Jaylen's probably like that where if you get them in the right spot, then they can be as good as anybody, but you can't necessarily pick them up and drop them in any situation and have them be elite. I think that's fair. Yeah, I think it's fair. People are going to be very angry at you. I'm going to get sl at you. I know I'm going to get slaughtered. You put a man with Tua and Brock Purdy, that's sending out a signal to you. Those are good quarterbacks. Attack

me please. Max, what are your thoughts? Those are good quarterbacks, Max. No, I'm fine with what he just said. I think that makes sense. He didn't say he's a... The rest of the media world right now is painting Jalen Hurts to be the worst quarterback in the NFL. I think he's good. There has never been a team that has more bulletin board material while also being the Super Bowl favorites in the Philadelphia Eagles. Well, they're Super Bowl favorites not because they're the best. They're not viewed as the best team.

What did I just say? I know, but do you realize- They're the most likely to make the Super Bowl out of all four teams. Yeah, the Chiefs and the Bills have to play each other. That's why the odds are the for the Eagles. I said what I said. And that wouldn't that be giving Bulletin Board material to the commanders? Correct. Yeah. No, no. If you go around and see what people are saying. Ryan, just hold on a second Ryan. We're having a conversation over here. Hey, one, that's on me. I don't know how many people, I don't know how many people have

made this comparison and I'll just dig myself a deeper hole but what do you think about the Jalen Hurts and Russell Wilson, like a young Russell Wilson comparison? Oh, I don't hate that. That's fair. Russell Wilson was good. He was great. No, he's still like their elite go ball throwers.

They throw it great down the field. They're also both very good runners, especially young Russ and they win. Yeah. I mean, I like that. And I don't think that the Eagles are going to have Jalen Hurts through a slant route at the one yard line in the Superbowl. That's, that's a tush push. Imagine if they didn't tush push. That would be incredible. That would be the worst mistake ever. Yeah. The goat one, two punch, peanut butter and chocolate. Reese's's invented it Reese's is the king of candy the Reese's peanut butter cup I think is the best candy and it stood the

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want to Reese's with that? Sure. Yeah, I'll take a Reese's peanut butter cup. Load me up. Try Reese's new delicious chocolate lava big cup. Try it today. You will not regret it. That's it's a PFT guarantee. It's a big cat guarantee. Slap my guarantee on it on top of your gear. It's a part of my take guarantee that you will love this Reese's peanut butter cup. It's the best. So in watching Saquon Barkley, I think that the commanders have done a decent job. Nobody does a great job of stopping Saquon. You can't really stop him, especially when that offensive line gets moving

to the side and they get start, you know, they start going downhill. How do you limit his big plays? Is it possible? I don't know that it's possible. I think you do go into this game saying, all right, the main focus is going to be on Saquon, but that means you're going to have one-on-ones on the outside. And like I just said, he's an elite goalball thrower. So with Devontae Smith and AJ Brown on the outside, it makes it difficult. So it's a pick your poison type thing. But I would go into the game saying that, I mean, you have to stop Saquon. That being said, you know, the other way you combat

that is you possess the ball and when you have fourth and sixth or less, you go for it on offense, which is the formula that Washington has pretty much used all year and being really aggressive on fourth down. And then they've got to light up the scoreboard. They know going into this game, this isn't going to be the same game that the Buffalo Kansas city game is. That game is going to be 24 to 23, 27 to 22, whatever it's going to be this one in order for Washington to win the game. They've got to score 30 plus points and maybe 40 to win this game. Yeah. I've been doing a lot of reading about Jayden recently and, uh,

his use of virtual reality and how he started doing that at LSU And so that's like a very important part of his prep at LSU That's what kind of changed his whole momentum around was he started doing this virtual reality stuff for like 45 minutes an hour three days a week where he would get reps in against a simulated defense and It allowed him to see and and think a lot quicker when he was playing on Saturdays and the commanders invest in that same company and now he's just like he's living in the metaverse three days a week and by the time he hits the field on Sunday, he's ready to go.

Have you tried using the virtual reality stuff? I did. They started to incorporate it a little bit into the NFL my last years, and I didn't like it at all. Yeah. Um, it just, I think maybe it's just what he's grown up with and, but yeah, it's obviously working and maybe I should have done it more, but he also has that thing where if he doesn't like what he sees, he just takes off and runs and nobody can catch him, which is really effective too.

Yeah. Did you have that? That's a pretty effective too. Yeah. That's a pretty good strategy. Yeah. But he between, between the way that he throws the deep ball and the way that he processes, there's one play in particular in that last game, it's cover zero. He's got two guys free coming at him and every quarterback in the league, you're taking the flat route, you're throwing it at your hot throw, you've got an unblock guy. He just takes two more steps back. The hot throw is

covered and then he finds Zach Ertz on a seven route to the outside. He throws it three steps before Ertz is out of his break, right in stride. And it's like, what planet is this guy from? You know, between the athleticism, his ability to throw it accurately, and now his ability to process the calmness, the poise under pressure, it's unbelievable and something we haven't seen recently. It's from the metaverse. Yeah. I got to ask you a question about your Twitter account because, and this was like a month ago, but I was heavily invested in an ongoing saga that you had.

Oh, I was going to ask the same question. Yeah. I'm happy you're bringing this up. You got a shot putt ball stuck in a golf hole and you couldn't get it out. I guess my first question is why do you have a shot put ball? Yeah, so it's the first time I got something stuck in a hole that I couldn't get it out and my brother lives next door so his son is becoming a shot putter. And so his little shit five year old son brought the shot put ball over to our backyard and thought it'd be fun to get it in the hole.

It literally was the perfect size. It was the perfect size to where it couldn't have been any bigger and fit in there. There was nothing I could do. And I love your suggestion, but I couldn't put any liquids in there because there's sand underneath the hole and it just would have dissipated underneath the hole.

So it was an absolute saga that ended like you thought it would, which was brute force and just destroying the fake green and the hole. But it was a fun two hours. I loved it because it was, you know, Harvard guy, fitzy, trying to use all the brain power in the world, trying to problem solve this. And at the end of the day, sometimes something is

simple as a ball getting stuck in a hole. You just have to, you just have to be a man about it. Well, that's, I was hoping Elon, I was hoping Elon was going to chime in, you know, like the submarine thing that he did and this whole SpaceX thing. I don't know what he would have suggested.

My three butter knives and two two by fours and trying to wedge it out of there didn't work. I don't think my wife follows me on Twitter. I don't think she has an account. So she doesn't know that the three butter knives got broken and are still missing. But it's gonna come up one day for sure. Now she might be an AWL.

Yeah, she listens. I would have just uh, I would have just covered up the hole made a new hole somewhere else and been like that's it. I sold the house done Yeah, yeah, like we're done with that one. That was my favorite suggestion that somebody may made was like, when are you moving? Yeah Imagine imagine like the real estate agent being like this is an incredible house great got great both But there's one thing we have to disclose before you sign. There's a shot put in the hole in the backyard Yeah, we're not buying this one get the murder house down the street instead It was it was an incredible saga

Alright, so do you have are you picking these games? Do you, do you have, I know that you want the bills. I mean, are we going to get maybe a Ryan Fitzpatrick Superbowl bills commanders that would be, would you be the bell of the ball? Maybe do the coin toss. PFT, you know, a lot of the, a lot of people are saying, you know, this is the most excitement they've had at quarterback in Washington since 2021. Yeah, I would agree. Uh, that game against the dolphins, man, who can forget? So, so, uh, now you guys kind of taught me this. I have my own podcast with Andrew Whitworth and I just said that the Eagles were going to win, but on here I could, can I say the command?

Then you can play both takes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, good. So I think the bills are going to win and let's go with the commanders, those commanders in the super bowl. I love that. I love that. That's really, that's a really good call. Good pick. Yeah. Yeah. Well, another question about the chiefs bills game. What is there anything that Sean McDermott can do this week leading up to it where he's like, cause you don't want to play tentative, but

we obviously saw what happened with the Texans where they're going to call those flags. Or do you think maybe the NFL is like, man, we can't have these flags again. So we're going to, we're going to make sure that this game doesn't have another controversial call with Patrick Mahomes sliding or, or running out of bounds late. Like how's that going to play out in your head? Well, that, so it was really funny. The, the second personal foul Patrick, my homes, when he kind of danced around and went down and got crunched by the two guys, I'm, I'm complaining like, Oh my God, I can't believe he did that. He's baiting him into getting the flag. And, and then my buddy next to me was like, yeah, but Josh does that sometimes too. True. True. But you know, the, both these

guys have learned how to weaponize that a little bit, which you try to try to take that out of the game in the off season. But who do you know who the crew is? That's either Hockley or Cleat. It's a clean lady for the AFC. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, the good thing is these are the best of the best. So complete and his crew, um, they do a great job. They're obviously, you know, you go into the game and as a head coach, you have a list of things,

you tell the refs beforehand, they're gonna say, hey, their tackles leave early. You know, Patrick Mahomes isn't running out of bounds. You'll have that checklist of things that you're gonna say, we wanna alert you to these and vice versa. They'll do the same thing with the bills, but we gotta just hope for the best, you know same thing with the bills, but we got to just hope for the best. You know, these are the best crews that we have. These guys both Hockley

on the other side, um, other than being very long winded and liking the spotlight, like his father, um, and Cleve Blakeman are both very good at what they do. So, yeah, yeah. I mean, I, we just, well, I just want the game to not have any of that bullshit and if it does I hope it has it equally on both sides I hope that they they officiate the same way for Josh as they do for Patrick and in that event You can just be like well it washed out Yeah, and the speaking of you know calls the last time the commanders and the Eagles played Latimore was it like three pass interferences on AJ Brown.

Yep. I mean, yeah, it just kept happening. So hopefully that ends up a little bit better for him this time too. He did look a lot better last week. He was a big part of that defense and how they were able to limit some of the big plays to the Lions. So I, I, I liked the commander secondary and a shocking twist as the season that has progressed. I love Mikey Sanders still and Marshawn Latimore is playing a lot better and Jeremy Chin is back there just hitting the fuck out of people

So yeah, so I'm okay with where we're at. I never thought we'd be a great defense this year I just wanted us to be kind of middle of the road and I think we've we've officially reached that tier So well, okay And if you're middle of the road on defense, you got to create turnovers, right? You got to you got to have some big plays because even, you know, going back to the Buffalo game this last weekend, their defense played good. They didn't play great, but they got three turnovers, you know, and that was the huge difference in the game. So it's like you think back to the Mark Andrews had a catch.

He was wide open. Nobody was near him. And then, you know, they're driving down to score, but Terrell Bernard comes and punches that ball out. So opportunistic, you know, that's going to be the big word for these defenses. Cause I would say Kansas city and Philly probably have the two best defenses that are left, but the bills have been very opportunistic this year and the way they force turnovers and Washington's going to need the same thing versus Philly this weekend. Yeah I had one more question for you about the Bills because you you danced around the NFL a little

bit you had a lot of flings you had a lot of one-night stands in the NFL but the Bills they were like your long-term relationship and you settled in nicely there they paid you a good amount of money that must have been pretty cool but it feels like the Bills fans have a different place in your heart from everybody else in the NFL. What was the moment where you realized that Bills fans are different and you really like this place? Well, I'll say my favorite moment as a Bill was 2011, which was my third year there.

And early in the season, we beat the Patriots at home. And early in the season, we beat the Patriots at home. And that was when I think people on the team that were new really understood like what the mafia is and how much football means to them. Because we hadn't beat the Patriots in forever. It had been forever. Tom Brady obviously owned the Bills, owned the division forever. Tom Brady obviously owned the bills, owned the division forever and the appreciation after that game and the tears and the joy from all the fans. That was a moment that I'll never forget where it was like, all right, I can mess with these guys. Like this is, this is, these are my dudes. These are my people. And there's also just, you know, flying

back there for Sunday. It's like the weather is shitty. You know, um, you don't know if it's going to snow two feet or two inches. The wind's blowing it's cold, but everybody's out there in the parking lot with a smile on their face because they live for Bill's football and the bills went 10 and O at home this year. So they rewarded them with a great season. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's the best. We've, we've made a couple of trips, obviously, to Buffalo and we love Josh and, and their, their fan base is, is it just the, the, like the passion and pride in, in Buffalo, it's, it's really cool to see. And they're, they're also like, if you, if you just lay it out, like what fan base likes to drink beer and eat wings and, and like fart in their Zubas. You know, that's it's a good life. It's a good life. Do you guys see the belt in the background here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So this guy was in our section. He came over. I had my three boys with me, 17, 16 and five, and he's like falling over. He'd stress like macho man, Randy Savage. And he gave my five year old that belt and he was so excited. And then later he came, one of his buddies came back cause I think he was fairly inebriated and he was like, Hey, can I, my friend have his belt back? And I was like, Hey, I'm sorry. My five year old was clutching and he slept with it last night. I'm like, look, I can get you another belt, but I don't think we're going to get it away from them. You gave it to them. Yeah, you can't. You take him taking that away from a five

year old at a game. It's like you just basically should just get back in the car because you're going home anyway. Like that would be meltdown city. All right. So Ryan I got one last question. It's a row back question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take row back dot com promo code take usips polos hoodies joggers shorts row back dot com promo code take row back comm promo code take qzips Polos hoodies joggers shorts row back comm promo code take So you mentioned you everyone should go listen to your podcast with Andrew Whitworth. How has it been? Year into you know or a season into podcasting Do you have a newfound respect for guys like us who've been in the in the podcast minds for a decade plus now? I do I'd love to pick your brain at some point.

We haven't had any guests yet. We we've just kinda, I think it's been easier because Thursday night football, you know, talking about our adventures, uh, talking about all these games. As soon as this season ends, we're going to be in a dark place. I don't know what to talk about. I mean, but I guess the season, football lives on throughout the year, but it's been a lot of fun.

I've enjoyed it. I was hesitant for a while, but I think I found the right guy in wit. Yeah. We're best buddies. He's such an impressive dude. Very thoughtful, very insightful. And then I just enjoy hanging out with him. He's a family guy. He's got four kids. I've got seven. So that part of it's been

really fun to seven kids. Yeah. You've gotten things stuck in holes before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Seven different women too, which is not a good, uh, what's just kidding. Just love you. Lies. Yeah. Everyone, everyone do listen to fits and wit. Uh, you can listen anywhere. What, what is last question? What is the, uh, amount of kids where like it becomes enough where they can just fend for themselves? Because I have three and I feel like three is a bad number where it's like they're they all are relying on me and I don't have enough of an age difference where like the oldest can just take care of the youngest. have enough of an age difference where like the oldest can just take care of the youngest. Yeah. And then it depends too, like if your oldest is a boy or a girl, because you know, a 17 year old boy is not as good as an 11 year old girl in terms of taking care of younger kids. I mean, the boys are, are selfish. They're into their cell phones and their friends and

sports and farting in their Zubaz. Yeah. You said, um, so I think for us, once we got to four, that, that was a pretty good number, but really when we made the decision to go from six to seven, that's when you don't fit in a car anymore. And you've got to go with like a weird, um, kids actually call our van, the kidnapper van. So when you've got to go with like the weird kidnapper van, when you have, you know, 12

seats and you can kind of bring all their friends to the soccer games and basketball games, that's where we're at right now. That's crazy. You become a nonprofit organization. Yeah. Yeah. You're, you're, you're doing church meetups, like, you know, going and picking people up. Yeah, but we do have, we do have two drivers now.

So now we're in a whole different realm where, hey, go pick up your sister from soccer practice, go take your friend or your son to the birthday party, whatever. That's nice. Yeah. Okay. And to the point about the podcast, I think what you're doing, it's not having guests might be a good thing for you guys because the listeners want to hear the relationship

develop between you and then they get like, like they feel like they're they're part of You know a little family and then you can slowly add on guests after that, you know in the offseason Sometimes you know in May June. There's not a lot to talk about then then you start mixing and guess as it as a treat But yeah, no your podcast is great. And I love watching. I love listening to it. So congratulations. Yeah. Thank you Hey, do you know do you know who the long snapper for the commanders is the long snapper for the commanders is I hate to put you on the spot like this but I'm it's not Cheeseman it used to be cheese no used to be Cheeseman yeah he's gone he was there when I was there but Tyler Ott okay do you know

where he went to college? I do not. Harvard. We got a Harvard boy snapping long. Yeah. That's why you guys have the advantage. Yeah. Okay. That's huge. That's huge. The snaps have been really good this year. I don't think. If you don't go his name, that means they've been great. I just jinxed it right there. I should have said that. They did. Point for Max. Yeah. Point for Max. All right. Well, Ryan, thank you so much for coming on man We love love having you on and hopefully maybe we see in New Orleans. We'll be there for the whole week So we got to catch up. All right, we'll see you there. All right guys Stav is gonna be brought to you by Dove men's what better guest to be sponsored by Dove men's we should send them a care package

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which shout out to people at Riverside, usually no issues. We had a little bit issue here. It gets better after eight minutes, but it's still Max and everyone on the team cleaned up the first eight minutes. So it should be good, but just wanted to note that It does get better eight minutes in and it's stop you baby. All right, here he is

Okay, we now welcome on our very very good friend it is Stavros Haukis Stavi, baby You can listen to him on Stavi's world. You can see his comedy. He's on tour. He's got a new movie But his Baltimore Ravens lost again in the playoffs and I Love you stov and I didn't want to ask I waited 24 hours But it was your appearance last year after they lost in the AFC Championship game Was so goddamn funny and our fans loved it so much Fuck you guys. Fuck you. Shut the fuck up. Okay. I'm sorry, but you're right. You're right. I'm speeding, you motherfucker.

How are you? Wait a second. I'm in fucking Chicago. I'm like, Hey guys, I got to fuck you move. Can I do the fucking show? I don't hear. Hey, we can fucking put you on aim. I get off my fucking team loses. I go through a break. I immediately had a fucking text you pieces of shit. Fuck you guys. That's not fully true. Fuck you. You said you were going to come back to do PMT. Yeah. Fuck you. Shut the fuck up. I know what you what you fucking motherfuckers want. Stavi, when I saw you, I went first of all, I went to your movie.

Yeah, it was very, very funny. You did think I appreciate the invite. I said, and we agreed afterwards next time you're in town, let's get you on PMT. The schedule, the schedule didn't match up. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm mad and I'm taking it out on you Okay, so how are you feeling? Bad big cat. Okay, let's talk it out

Am I coming? Sorry Mike going something weird? Just like a little bit cut out a little bit, but I think because it's Riverside. It'll be fine. What do we got back? Yeah, I think he's just he's just peeking. So you're just yelling too much All right, so okay, so Let's talk it out. I mean that sucked that sucked. Yes, it did It was fucking brutal. It was like I Don't fuck no, dude. I don't even know what to fucking say. So at the end of the month They're gonna do the NFL honors ceremony

Lamar Jackson might get another MVP. Is that gonna feel good at all for you to watch that? I'm not one of these motherfuckers that thinks Lamar was the problem at all. Look that fucking interception was a duck That was crazy. He fucking threw a quarter of his interceptions in this fucking game He was fucking awesome. He throws like a no disrespect in this fucking game. He was fucking awesome. He throws like a no disrespect, Jamis style interception where it's like who the fuck was even throwing to that? Like I thought I was having a stroke. The fucking build guy just caught it like he was fair catching. Yeah, I couldn't believe that.

But it's like, OK, he got that shit out of his system, whatever. He comes back when it fucking matters. Slippery, what do you want from you guys from Florida? He doesn't know fucking snow. You've seen his fucking high school highlights. It's humid, but it's not old. The fucking ball slipped out of his hand. Okay. And then at the fucking end, he takes them down. We get the touchdown throws it to Andrews and I feel bad for Andrews too, because he's fucking good. But that's a

tough one, man. You do have to catch that one. Plus the fumble again, I feel bad for him. But it's like this what brief fucking turnover and we could have we were in that game. That was he didn't play bad. Yeah. And then the fucking why the fuck did we throw the ball? And when we were with fuck first and goal? What the fuck did we run it four times? Are all the whole? Well, that's the kind of fucking thing we are. Fucking Derek Henry. What the fuck did we bring Derek Henry in for if we're fucking goal line? And they're not going to film the ball.

Did somebody explain that to me? It's the only time in my life. I was Greg Roman was our fucking offensive coordinator. That fucking you know, that sucker would have ran it four times. He doesn't even know how to pass his playbook. But Todd Monken got fucking cute. When we least needed it, you fuck! Yeah.

Why didn't you get, and then we score that touchdown. Whole different fucking game. Whole different fucking game. Dude, I don't fuck, it was just like. It was bad. I keep like. It's. like, it was bad. I keep like, we were good. We didn't even deserve to lose.

We were fucking good. And where the fuck was the, when we're playing Pittsburgh, I feel like every play, TJ, TJ Watts tackling a fucking running back that we tricked those dumbasses into thinking he was gonna get the ball. And then Lamar, where the fuck was that?

That's our super power. That's what makes Lamar as like even better than the best then Josh Allen, for example, which like, yeah, he can throw the ball, he can run. But also these motherfuckers don't even know how to defend against our run defense. Where the fuck did that go? I didn't see. Now maybe I missed it. You guys are fucking you guys have the keen eyes that I don't. I don't, you guys are bigger football guys than me.

I am a football guy, but I'm not, I don't watch fucking Maxon or whatever the fuck. So maybe I missed one of the fucking plays. First of all, you are a football guy. Don't ever, don't ever put yourself down like that. I don't like that. We needed that. Thank you. The Lamar thing is tough because he has, he is so goddamn good in the regular season that everyone expects that in the playoffs and he has not played at the so goddamn good level in the playoffs. So it's like, it's his own, it's his own doing that everyone expects this level of like otherworldly quarterback play. And the two, the two turnovers, I mean, that fumble was huge. Mark Andrews fumble was, was the, was the, was the thing that changed the whole

game. But I, I don't know. I mean, I guess I would try to cheer you like you're still a good team and you got to just go back at it. Right. Yeah. Yes. And look, I know the, yes, that fumble was fucking huge. And, but that is the exact reason Lamar can't have two pre-overs. Because as the as the fucking leader, your boys are fucked up, right? And you're the one who has to make up for that. I get that. And you're right. Never played to the standard that he plays when we're beating no whatever that game we beat Cincinnati when him and Joe Burr are doing that duel. He didn't play to that I get that to you know to suck PFT stock He didn't play as good as a rookie You know what I mean? Like Jane it's tough to even be like that's the tough counter-argument And I hate how happy is gonna make you where it's like Lamar is the man But some fucking rookie with his skill set Not as good a player yet if ever probably not as good, but they had the fucking

Not as good a player yet, if ever, probably not as good, but had the fucking mentality to just... And he wasn't... whatever. He's playing a fucking dome, actually. He's actually... fuck you, PFT. It was the elements that got to him. I love that. I love that, Stavi. You were a second away from giving... and you're like, No, no, I'm not wrong.

You're wrong. Fuck you. If he was in the dome... If we were in a fucking dome, whole different ballgame,'re wrong. Fuck you. If he was in a whole different ballgame, fuck you. This is the exact conversation we're having about Peyton Manning. Yes. Would you rather have Tom Brady? Sure. Cool. Peyton Manning that makes guys miss and is electrifying.

And I still have to watch football every week. That's that's how you know it's a bad loss, because I'm fucking Buddhist now. I'm like, and it's got me thinking about, well, I'd rather be them than you for example, big gas. Yes. Yes. Now I'm rooting again. Now I'm like, fuck Ben Johnson. I'm like, everything's going to go bad for everybody else. Fraud. Fucking flea flickers. Enjoy that fucking picks. He's going to throw Caleb's going to fucking throw next year. Fuck you guys. Fuck. How the fuck do we lose? And like, like to it. What you didn't lose the Chiefs.

That's a little bit of a solace. Not if the when the fucking Super Bowl. I know. I know. Yeah. So are you going to be rooting for the Bills this weekend? That's the hard thing, because I have a lot of friends who are Bills fans. It's a fat city. OK, I'm rooting maliciously against the Kansas City Chiefs and I'm rooting. There's no malice with the Bills. It is like, I like Buffalo in the NFC.

I could give a fuck. I mean, you know, whatever, who cares? Whoever it is, beat the fucking, I don't know, whoever it is, the fucking I don't just whoever doesn't be yeah it sucks every time it won't be as bad as last year last year destroyed me yeah I was looking like I mean literally after the Super Bowl here's how bad what a bender I went on I mean you have proof of it I've been sober since the Super Bowl after that bender I was like what am I doing with my life? I have not smoked weed, drank, taken pills, nothing,

because I was so depressed after the Ravens lost to the Chiefs. So it literally put me into sobriety. That loss fucked me up so bad. I watched it, I was in Baltimore, I had to watch stupid fucking red confetti fall on M&T Bank Stadium. It sucked dick. So on some level, nothing is as

devastating as that, especially like we're away from the Super Bowl. But like, fuck, dude, we were so good. Yeah, our office was so fucking and then the defense, which was, you know, took some while to fucking come around. We were looking pretty good. There's, you know, a couple guys will get fucking Torched every once in a while, but for the most part You know shout out to fucking zach or he's he's figured the shit out. He's cool I like our I like our guys I do but then i'm also you know salary cap

I haven't looked into it. I'm a team never stays good this long I'm sure we're in for some bullshit departure and we're a good organization I get it whatever but fuck dude You know how it is you got a win if you have if you're if you're this good a team You got a fucking win and I'm happy to have Lamar for the rest I don't want him to ever going anywhere. Don't get me wrong and we will be good as long as we have him but fuck Every 12 years. That's the pact we signed with Satan. It's the perfect amount. It is. Sixth grade. I was in sixth grade. I was 25. It's like, it's the perfect

space out, bro. It is. Yeah, it is. Cause it's like, that's enough time where you wanting more. It's a new, it's a new team. You're like, Oh, this could, when you were doing your numerology, did you ever take into account the fact that it's it's only happened twice So it's not really that much of a pattern It just happened before as it had only twice but it's happened. But how long of the fucking Ravens been a franchise? It's pretty quick after that. You fuck. Yeah, I'm just saying it's only like it was three times and you could say yeah It's it's every 12 years. I think it was the 28 year old quarterback thing Yeah, the 20 year quarterback thing was what I cuz I saw that stat

I was like, whoa, this is real. It was two pieces of numerology. Thank you big cats. I got you It's fucking statistics over there PFT fuck Any team that won two Super Bowls you could be like, yeah Or if you're a Cubs fan, you could be like, yeah the Cubs win a World Series every hundred two years Yeah, fuck it was two pieces of numerology. Yeah, I'll order two. How do you feel about about hardball now? I Mean I ride with hardball, but it is a little like Because here's the real shit We shouldn't have been playing in fucking Buffalo. I know why the fuck do we lose to the Raiders?

I mean, I mean you look to our fucking schedule It's like what the fuck man, like why were we penal? I mean look the first game Hey, remember that lining up away from the fucking center call that we've got 15 fucking times opening night Did you see that called fucking once after that? I mean these motherfuckers it was literally like make up a rule. So the Ravens lose to the fucking chiefs I didn't see that shit all reason called on the Ravens. It happened only opening night. Whatever. We'll take that one aside But it's like we were a fucking penalized team It weirdly it's shit. That's like poorly coached shit where it's like, why are we beating ourselves?

Why do we almost lose to the fucking shitty cowboys? Why the fuck did we like? Why? Why are we not ready to play? And our defense? Like, you could blame it on you coordinator, you know, it was hard to lose. It was hard to lose fucking McDonald. But like, by the end of the season, we'd figure that out. Yeah, we figured our defense out. It was all the early. It was not the defensive coordinate, the new defensive coordinator was the problem. It was all the early it was not the defensive coordinate the new defensive coordinator was the problem It was overall coaching shit and I do love hardball. I do but it is like

It's nice. Not even no way is he on a hot seat, but it's like it ain't cold no more You know what I mean? It's like let's consider now. I think I took out the thermometer. I'm looking at thermometers on Amazon I haven't even bought it yet, but it's like if I need at some point to see the temperature of his seat, I'm at least seeing what the best I'm reading reviews on the best thermometer to see how hot the seat is. So we're very far away. But it is poorly coached shit. It is like, why the fuck are we this is the whole point of a like doesn't call plays doesn't do shit. He's like a fucking he's that traditional old school. I'm just managing everything coach and it's like well how the fuck do we lose a lot of games because of penalties if that's the fucking case.

Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's like if we're at home I don't think we lose that game. Who knows about next week right? Whatever but I don't think we fucking lose at home Honestly, you got to become just a full-time dome guy like what's the league doing allowing Buffalo to build a stadium? It's dangerous. It gets so cold up there the snow And I have that's another thing. That's how bad this loss was where I'm like we're playing outside. What is this the fucking 1910s?

We're playing outside. What is this? The fucking 1910s? You know, what the fuck are we doing? Let's let's play the NBA finals on a fucking blacktop next year Like it's not me. It's got me being like it's crazy to have snow games What are we talking about? The elements can't makes that much of a fucking can't make that much of a fucking You know can't fuck the outcome up even though that's crazy snow football's cool, but it's got me considering shit like yeah Yeah, you're changing your world. All right, so come up, even though that's crazy, snow football is cool, but it's got me considering shit like that. Yeah. Yeah, you're changing your world. All right, so listen, it sucked. Let's think positives.

One, I want to say here and now, because I believe that Lamar will win a Super Bowl at some point. I think so too. Thank you. I think he will win a Super Bowl at some point. This is just, it's been shitty, but like he's too good. I just think he will win a Super Bowl. When he wins a Superbowl.

I'm not saying if when he wins a Superbowl for the Ravens, you will be our Monday guest that right after the Superbowl. You deserve that. You will get to, you will get to, even if they go to a Superbowl, you'll be, you will have you on after the championship. So also you're crushing it in life. Like you made a movie, your podcast is huge. Your standup is huge. Like you got it all right now. You probably getting mad bitches.

I suppose big cat, but you know how it goes, man. Yeah, no, it sucks. There's nothing worse. The week after a bad loss, it's just like you, you start to question why you start to look at the rest of your life and you're like, I have so much shit going for me. Why do I put so much into a game? I know. And here's the other thing that the reason I say I'm not a huge, as big a football guy is like, cause there was moments in my life where I was like, ah, I, you know, do I have to watch this every Sunday? Like who cares who cares like and then Lamar gets drafted and it was like I Was back in harder than I've ever fucking bit. I was like I couldn't believe he fell to us It's really little and it's like why why you motherfucker? Why couldn't we have drafted fucking Mitch Trubisky?

You know what I mean? I'd be I'd be I'd be having good times on Sunday. I'd be fucking a brunch with my pals I wouldn't give a fuck, but I'm back in because I love Lamar so much and it's hard, man. I want to be free, big cap, but I don't think I ever will be. I don't think I ever will be and I do want to. I do want to not be a fan of anything, but unfortunately this bullshit makes me so sad. I know. I think about that, like how like how cool would be to just be like, watch the Super Bowl, like turn it on and just be like, Oh, this is cool.

First time I'm seeing these two teams this year. Be the guy that doesn't know the rule changes at the Super Bowl. Yeah. Like, Oh, explains it to you. Yeah. Oh, is that, is that Patrick? He's won a couple of these, right? Like that. Yeah. We like guys turn the volume up. There's a Doritos commercial. Shout out Doritos our sponsor. Yeah. Become a sport sports ball guy. Yeah. Oh, the gay. Oh, the sports is on TV.

Huh? And then just look down your nose at everybody. Yeah. Yeah. It would be nice. I'm sorry, Savvy. It breaks my heart to see you. I am happy for you. That was awesome. It's cool, but I understand what you're saying. If you're looking at the Eagles and the Commanders, you probably do want to see the Eagles win. Because you don't want to see my Lamar get to Super Bowl. You just copied. You copied me, dude. You got your own Lamar? That's bullshit. You copy and pasted a Lamar that's bullshit. Yeah, copy and paste it a Lamar. Bullshit, dude. Fuck you. No, I don't know.

And it's also like it's also the D.C. thing with Baltimore, where it's like D.C. is a bunch of fucking I know you're from Virginia, but D.C. is a bunch of fucking nerds, a bunch of fucking losers that want to be in politics. It's like every every like student government president tattletale lanyard wearing motherfucker is a DC fan. That's that town sucks.

Dick, you know, that's where they did pizza. You know, it's like we're billionaires molest children with the president. And it's like, I got to watch that team fucking win. I watched that team fucking win. No. And Philly, at least is like they are our white trash cousin. There's so much similarity to Philadelphia and Baltimore that it's like I Don't know. There's a little part of me is like it would have hurt me to have to face Philly in the fuck It's like a battle of it's like the Civil War. It would have been a battle of brothers the Hatfield and McCoys

Anyway, who knows man, I just I can't have the fucking chiefs win and they will. They fucking will. Because that's how the world works, because we're in a time where evil prevails. Everything is going bad. Fucking Mark Zuckerberg's on TRT stealing all our fucking information as we fucking speak. They're rolling back civil rights. The fucking the fucking chiefs are going to win again. We're fucked.

Nothing good is ever going to come. We got it. We got to hope for like President Travis fucking Travis, whatever the fuck the Kelsey kill Travis Kelsey Jr. It's the only way we'll fucking have a yeah, he'll be president. Him and Taylor Swift's son will be elected God, God, emperor of America in fucking 35 years, dude. Yeah. Well, savvy. I mean, I want to tell you that it gets better. Uh, you're at least you have your health. Look what a better place you are right now. They're still good. We're still good, but this is tough to coming off these two back to back. That's the tough thing is like, we are good. And that's what, that what we are still you know what this is like. It's like you have

the best girlfriend of all time. Everything's great. And she just gets drunk, sucks one guy off. Get past it. I can get past it because everything else is perfect. And it was maybe a one time thing. But when I'm dark and I'm in my room alone I'm imagining her sucking that guy's dick what I mean and that's what this was the fumble is fucking a guy's dick the drop it's sucking a guy's dick not running for it on fucking second and goal is sucking a guy's dick and I have to think about that even though I love my wife the Ravens she's up the guys cock and Cabo and I have to fucking live with it and you know what you did it two years in a row and I'm and it's on thin ice now now

that I think about it. Yeah and next year you're going to be going back to Cabo and you're like God damn it. We have to win. Yeah I can't let her out of my sights. Next year like I guess we're just swingers now. He's got a gun! He's got a gun! Next year, it's gonna go bad! I was actually saying on the Yak earlier, you know how they're flagging gun celebrations? You know how they flag? Gotta do it! You know how they, uh, they flag gun celebrations now in, in college, in the NFL. Yeah. Would they have flagged Mark Andrews after he dropped the ball? If he took out a fake gun and shot

himself, that would have been awesome. If you just unloaded the clip in his own head, like do you flag that or you're justed the clip in his own head, like do you flag that or you're just like, all right, fair play, man. It's not taunting. Yeah. Unless you're including like the trauma that the defense would go through watching you shoot yourself. Yeah. I want to see someone do it. I want to see someone do it. That would be good. Like a kicker, miss a big kick. He just like, Oh, shotgun in the mouth. His, his holder takes out the shotgun and hands it to him. He just commits sepulchre. Oh man. That will be awesome. All right. Well, stop. I got one last question for you. Thank you though for coming on. You are, you are a hero. I did wait 24 hours. I did. I did

turn to PFT in the gambling cave as the game was ending and I was like, I think I'm going to text Stavi and I was like, but I'm going to wait 24 hours. So I did wait 24 hours. Appreciate that. And you know what? You waited 24 hours, but it's like in my mind, you texted me the moment the game and yeah, yeah, but it has been so painful. Um, but uh, all right. So row back question, our HOP, ACK.com promo code, take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, jockeys, shorts. I'm still laughing about you taking out a gun there. All right, let's talk positive. What do you got going on? You're coming to Chicago in April. So we'll see you guys to

be there. Chicago. Yes. Chicago theater. Please come out. Yeah. I have a huge tour coming out. The dreamboat tour. It's like over 40 cities. We're doing a tour bus. It's going to be a big, a big time tour. I'm very excited about that. Please buy tickets to see me I won't kill myself if some of those if those shows sell out And yeah, that's I mean, it's the tour the movie Let's start a cult available on demand and we're working to get it on Hulu pretty soon And yes, Davi's world really I really want people to see the to come see me live

You know, it'll it's a good show. It's a really it's a fun show. I promised And yeah, watch the movie. We have we have the the Podcast that's that's pretty much it man. I'm gearing up for basically three months of being on the road It's gonna be it's gonna be really fucking fun the tour. So April 18th is being Madison and then he's coming down to Chicago, April 19, two shows at Chicago theater. I might just invite myself to go up to Madison, see you there and then hop on the bus with you. That'd be fun. You're welcome. You're welcome to do that. Absolutely. Yeah. We would love to have, yeah, we'll definitely, yeah, we'll

be out in Chicago by tickets. See the movie. If you want to see Stavis balls, see this movie. You do. There's, there is plenty of nudity mean my nudity on that motherfucker for sure. Yeah. Um, yeah. So yeah, that's it. So go to Stavis.biz for the rest of the dates that Chicago and Madison, but I start February 21st in, in like Sacramento. And then we, we end February, we end May 11th in or May 12th in DC. So it's literally like we're doing the West coast, the South, the Midwest, and then we're going to come back and hit more of the East coast in the fall. But yeah, Stavi.biz.

That's pretty much it. Yeah. Thanks guys. I actually do feel better. Good. Having spoken to you, getting it out for real. At least it wasn't festering for two weeks. I last last year I really was depressed for two straight weeks. Yeah, that was bad because it's Vegas and everything. Just to put a ball on it. We stop. He did when he came here last time. He was like,

I'm going to be back in a week. So I'll come on. I know, I know. I was like, I remember I was like, fuck, did we? No, no, no, no, no, no. It's by the way, those guys are funny. No shots at them. It was just, you know, of course I get the quick, we can move some shit around when the Ravens lose. That's all I did say. I did say my Ravens, my texts to him was literally like, Hey, can you come on tomorrow? We can do any time. I know I last minute even said I moved it two hours just to see how open you really were. And you're like, no problem, man. We'll figure it out. We also stay here till midnight. We could have talked about anything on this podcast. We weren't necessarily just going to talk about the Ravens. You started talking

about the Ravens. We didn't even want to bring it. It had just been too long. All right. We love you, man. Thank you so much. All right. Stav was brought to you by Uber Eats. Whether you're ordering wings for the game, whipping up a seven layer dip or ordering pizza, there's something about football that makes you want to eat. And this football season, Uber Eats has the best deals on gameday food no matter what you're craving. From 2 for 1 pizza to buy 1 get 1 wings, Uber Eats is going to be dropping new deals each week all season long.

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think would be the new most popular sport in the world? Football. Oh, good question. I want to say football. Um, but it's gonna be flag football, right? Yeah, be flag football. But that guy's better than Patrick Mahomes. Hmm, that five, seven quarterback we have. Like monster trucks would be pretty sick. Like basketball. Why? Just athletic. Yeah, but football rocks. It's hard to do. It does not rock in the Olympics. Honestly, the question is is

Your memories gonna race in your first exposure. Yeah, sports is the Olympics. I think the answer for somebody that's never seen sports before Would be boxing Boxing would be like holy shit. These guys are just beating the fuck out of each other. Yeah boxing would be pretty say boxing basketball Boxing would be pretty sick. Boxing, basketball, 100 meter dash. I don't know. The Olympics are kind of boring if you thought that was the only sport you had. Water polo. Speed walking, they got rid of it.

That's electric. Break dancing. Yeah, if we did break dancing. But if we did it right now, speed walking is the funniest by far. Rugby. Rugby be up there. Rugby probably would be. I mean, if you're saying football, it would be rugby. Yeah, because it's not flag rugby it's it's full on rugby

yeah hockey if we did winter olympics hockey would be enormous because i think it would still it would be less about the individual sports be team sports people would still want to get behind that i think if they use real swords fencing yep yep or if they used guns for like duels and stuff, I know they shoot targets, that would be pretty cool. Yeah. Oh, ski jumping. That shits wild. When I watch that, it blows my mind every time. I feel like people would be pretty into ski jumping. Just being like how far, because like the premise of ski jumping is, is cool in its own right. Like it's it's almost like a activity you would do when you're seven years old in terms of like how high can I go off this jump with my bike except for ski. So I feel like ski jumping would have a good run.

It's also just an insane sport because you you should die. Yeah. If you jump that far, skis off a mountain. Correct. Not so much as a take, but more of a question. I didn't write this by the way. Where the fuck do Philly fans get off acting like they're in the sports mecca of the world? Max is able to talk trash with all confidence. A baseball team that has been around a hundred years with two World Series wins, the last one 16 years ago.

A basketball team who hasn't won since the 80s. And a football team that's won once since the merger. He wants to talk about winners. Philly is the best team at being second. They're the most prideful, obnoxious fans who literally have dick to show for it. So seriously, where does he get off? When have I ever said that I'm a winner? Didn't you call Philly the city of champions?

City of champions loading. That was what, five years ago? I said loading. Loading. Did you just write this? I am a loser. City champions low that was what five years ago. I said loading loading We just write this I I am a loser how many times we have to come on this fucking show and tell every person Who's listening that I'm a fucking loser Hank just two weeks ago? You were just yelling at me because I was walking like a loser you you Said the question like you wrote the question. I know he specifically said I did not write this quite

That's a fact he did say that but he didn't mean it not that max this week were winners this is we're gonna fucking run the ball up PFC's dickhole let's have a good week max I mean Nova last night shut up yeah what happened you guys beat DC right lost to Georgetown oh no it's nine point favorite in Washington yeah didn't score for the last five minutes of the game. So I mean, I do respect Philly sports fans because they care this much. Correct.

That's what I, I hate them when I play them. I do not want to go into the link as an opposing fan. That's what sports should be. Like they do a good job. The clip of the link, the guys in the top row, the link celebrating after the Saquon run with the snow coming down is like that is pure sports ecstasy. Like that, that clip alone is why they should never take away, you know, weather games and put everything in domes. Like that clip was, was, was just everything. Yeah. I don't think Max says that

he's a winner. He's just Pat. I feelilly is like, but it's also a unique sports city in the fact that they are, they are so passionate, uh, about their teams and like to a level of scumbag. I respect it. I like it. Yeah. I mean, you need that. You think about Philly sports. You've got great fans like Bill Cosby. You've got, uh, eat that pussy. You've got Sandusky, Joe Joe Pa was almost a coach there. Just like the list goes on. They're, uh, Don Vito from Viva LaBam.

They've got great fans. You, whatever. What? No one even cares about fucking Washington sports. I do. Kevin Durant. Yeah. KD.

Wale. Magic Johnson. What has he ever done? He got AIDS This is an all caps head coaching interview should not happen till after the Super Bowl reason Exhibit a the motherfucking Detroit Lions Ben Johnson Aaron Glenn both were interviewing the week leading up to the divisional game and it cost them I don't they changed the rule already It used to be that like this would happen and you can do in-person interviews They both did like three hours zooms

I I don't think that's the reason why the Lions lost that game and they have changed it so that January 20th is the first time the coaches can do in-person interviews. I don't know your I Think it's okay. I it's so there's no way to solve the problem If you have a good kind of already did a little bit, but it's still I think it's okay. I it's so there's no way to solve the problem If you have a good kind of already did a little bit But it's still I think it's still an issue like obviously Ben Johnson was getting his staff together during the week But you think a three-hour zoom I mean well no but no getting the staff. Yeah, I get that I get that was that was and it's just copium from losing but yeah, I Could I could see my fans being yeah

I don't think they lost that game because a coach no Five turnovers their commanders were better Yeah, yeah, I mean you could say that like at least one of those turnovers was the Ben Johnson play where he had James William throwing the ball why he shot exactly so I Understand the probably called the play because he forgot that he was calling a game Because he was already thinking about his New job. I don't think that it's like a Massive massive thing. There's no way to really fully stop it either because it's gonna happen

And this is what you have when you have a good team you're gonna lose your coordinators it sucks So the problem with that is in here's the only reason why I push back is you are it's in you in your mind you're saying you're protecting the teams obviously going deep and it's like a Playoff team or sorry a team that misses the playoffs shouldn't get a benefit of being able to hire a coach like quickly in January But the real loser in all of that is the coach Like if you don't let the coaches of the Super Bowl team even do a zoom interview Like if you don't let the coaches of the Super Bowl team even do a Zoom interview, they're never going to get hired because the teams will want to move faster than that. So that coach is getting screwed for their own success.

Maybe you make a rule you can't hire a coach until a week after the Super Bowl. But like any coach, any coach. Okay. I don't know. But I don't think there's a great answer to it. Yeah. But the coach would lose out. Like the coach getting the opportunities would lose out because they were good at their job. So that's where it would kind of suck.

Yes. They already did change it again. They made it better. Like the fact that you have to do zoom to start is pretty good. All right, last one. Notre Dame losses are worse than any other team's losses because I can literally blame God for ignoring my prayers. What's the point of having a dead cousin if you can't come through for a natty? BYU doesn't count because Mormonism isn't real and God hates Boston College. Okay maybe that's why they don't lose anybody to the transfer portal because you you can tell your players like hey if you transfer you're going to hell. Yeah. Texas Christian University? Do they have this? I mean, it's in the name. I don't know. I don't know the...

They did pretty good in the national championship, didn't they? SMU made it to the playoff. Yeah. Are the God teams having a moment? No, not really. Because you lost. You lost the crusade. I thought he was going to say because everyone likes to make fun of Notre Dame But uh yeah, I guess I think that would be the more shitty part You can always say that like this is God testing you yeah, like Bill Belichick said do your job It would be so funny if like God if God were real and ever revealed himself

And was like I've been rooting for this the whole time or like I don't even watch sports you guys Yeah, this is like how the fuck were you guys saying that you know do you know how flooded my inbox was mm-hmm with sports you idiots yeah God I don't know would God be a sports fan he's got a lot of if God exists I got a lot of other issues working on if I was God I would I would fix all the sports yeah so sorry Notre Dame fan but yeah, I don't know if it's God that that had that I think it was more like not having enough five stars. But if you want to go there, that's fine. Yeah. Like blame who you got to blame. Yeah. However you cope is completely that's what I was saying earlier. Normalize like bad losing. Yeah, give God some bulletin board material. Yeah,

that's what Martin Luther did when he nailed that shit on the door Yes nailed it right there all right uh Good show boys numbers numbers nine go eight and God does hate the Jets three 11 five Okay, Shane pug Jack Jack get Jack get Jack on 45 Jack Jack

he said he said on Sunday if if the Lions lost means that Ohio State doesn't win and we pointed out that those two things have literally nothing to do with each other um Ohio State won thoughts it was horrible okay yeah maybe don't make that trade again. Yeah, I won't okay. All right Shane 21 all right memes. What was your number again? 8 I have three 70 70 Love you guys. 70, 70. Love you guys. 70, 70. Love you guys. 70, 70. Love you guys.

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