Pardon My Take - Ryan Whitney, College Basketball Is Back, And Tony Finau Is Officially Cursed

Episode Date: February 22, 2021

College Basketball is back and the blue bloods had themselves a weekend (2:30 - 14:01). Our guy Max Homa wins a tournament and Tony Finau is the poster child for the Puerto Rico Open Curse (14:01 - 24...:02). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including stay woke on Cam Newton and a new podcast from PFT and Arian Foster (24:02 - 40:30). Ryan Whitney joins the show to talk hockey, the winter classic, Sidney Crosby and his golf game (40:30 - 77:12). Segments include Talking Tennis and Monday Reading is Back.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have Ryan Whitney, one of our favorite guests. People have been asking for him. We talked some hockey, talked the winter classic, talked fighting in the NHL, talked Sidney Crosby and where he ranks all time. Ryan Whitney's golf game, Ryan Whitney gets buddied by Billy and Brode, the disrespect.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Awesome interview. We have actually a ton of sports to talk about. The Max Homo winning a tournament, the Genesis, was it the halftime show? It was the Genesis. It was actually very, very upsetting, seeing that logo and not having it being black and white with good Charlotte play. Yes. So we had that.
Starting point is 00:00:49 We had a ton of college hoops. We had some hockey. We had everything packed Monday's show and we're brought to you by our friends at Verizon. You've heard us talk a lot about how Verizon 5G Ultra Wideband makes gaming better, ultra low lag, console quality gaming on the go. Well, we're not just talking gaming, Verizon designed their 5G to make things we do every day better with the coverage of 5G nationwide. Millions of people can now do what they love in Verizon 5G quality.
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Starting point is 00:02:03 signal independent analysis. Okay, let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by Verizon 5G, today is Monday, February 22nd and I'm going to say it boys. It's March Madness. Let's go. It feels like March Madness, it feels this weekend, maybe it was all the blue bloods having their revenge, which I love, I love how, I don't know if you saw, but everyone
Starting point is 00:03:11 was like the blue bloods are back. Michigan State, Duke, Kentucky, Arizona, it was like, record scratch for Arizona's a blue blood? Since when? Arizona could be a blue blood. UCLA is the blue blood in the past 12. Arizona could be a blue blood. I think Arizona was a blue, I mean they won a national championship in the early 2000s.
Starting point is 00:03:28 That doesn't make you a blue blood. Yeah, that doesn't make you a blue blood. Salim Stottemeier, left handed legend. Historic, historic, right? Historic blue blood like this. Legendary coach. What do you think? I don't know, yeah, I guess Jake is the.
Starting point is 00:03:41 UCLA is the actual blue blood. Yes. But there's not going to have more than one blue blood. I know, you can, but when I think of like out west, it's UCLA. When I think of UCLA, I think of them winning like 11 championships in 10 years, not possible, but I feel like they still did it. Do you think Arizona was a blue blood? No.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Thank you. I'm not saying they're bad. They're an incredible program. I think they're close to being a blue blood, but the fact that I just was like, oh yeah, Jason Kidd. No, he actually went to Callum pretty sure. And the fact that it took you a second, like you, you know a blue blood when you see it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:11 It's a no doubter. It's not like a, ooh, maybe they are. Maybe they are. Right. I think it would be Florida to be a blue blood. It is kind of funny to be like. Yeah, no. Unfortunately they're not a blue blood, but they are unreal this, since 2000s.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yes, absolutely. Back to back championships. They'll never be done again. The blue blood is, is the history behind it. It's the history. It might, but I don't think it will. Yeah. They got a bold claim saying that nobody's ever going to win a back to back championship
Starting point is 00:04:36 again in the history of the college basketball. It's the hardest sport to win. It is. A championship. Yes. When the tournament back to back twice. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Agreed. It'll happen though. It's to say it's never going to happen again. That's actually a little bit of inner blue blood coming out. That's something that a blue blood would say. Yeah. Fair. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Maybe I'll take it back. Yeah. I don't think so. No. They didn't even win that championship that they won eight years ago. Like Michigan State might, because of magic, I think they become a blue blood, but like they might even be pushing it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It is fun to say like that the blue bloods are back. Like the blue bloods have become the new mid major. Yes. The blue bloods. Yeah. It's flipped so fast. No, Kentucky, Michigan State and Duke all winning as big time. Well, Duke was only a 2.0 underdog, but it felt like we had like, oh, this is a normal
Starting point is 00:05:23 Saturday. It probably sounds snobby, but I can't. I love college basketball regardless, but it is fun when the blue bloods are involved. It's fun to hate Duke. Did you see Hank? Like it ruined my Saturday night, Sunday morning, Duke beat Virginia and the Virginia did not score a single point after with like a minute and a half left. Duke slapped the floor.
Starting point is 00:05:46 In unison. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. But that's the stuff that you love to have. It's good. It's good. It's good for the game when like you were getting pissed off at Duke.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah. Because it felt like it was too easy to hate on Duke for the last couple of weeks. Like you were just kicking an orphan. You guys still didn't. No, no. We didn't try to do it. We talked about. We got us worked up, Hank.
Starting point is 00:06:06 It's sports, Hank. We're a sports podcast. We have to talk about the sports shows. Yeah. It's cool watching John Howard. People when he went to Michigan, they were like, is this going to work? Looks like it's working. That dude who was on the bench on the phone that didn't get caught.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Mm-hmm. What was he doing? He was talking to you on the phone during a basketball game. I have a theory. Yeah. Okay. I think he was talking to the delivery driver to get post-game meal. Ah.
Starting point is 00:06:30 For Vermont student manager, they would always be on standby. One of them would have to run out at the final media time out to pick up the food. Got it. So. That's right. Inside the program stuff that, you know, we're just not getting anywhere else. The Michigan, Ohio State game was awesome, high level basketball. It just feels like, you know, I think it was partly because we had a great Friday with
Starting point is 00:06:51 Blue Bloods, but then, or Saturday with Blue Bloods. And then Sunday having the standalone CBS game deliver, the music, everything's flowing. It just feels raftery and just, ah, it's good. We can't, I so, so, so, so much missed March Madness last year. Like, I think that's one of the things that when I'm hopefully 85 on my deathbed, like my last words are going to be like, remember when we didn't get the tournament? No. I just, because I was hot gambling too.
Starting point is 00:07:18 They need to come up with a, they need to come up with a drug that just makes you forget the previous 12 months. Just erased us from history. But it really hurts. It will hurt me forever. It will haunt me forever. But college basketball, we're rounding into form. It's March in one week, one week from today.
Starting point is 00:07:32 This is March. Yes. It will be March. So we're ready to go. We also had our guy Max Homa win a tournament. What was the tournament again? It was the Genesis. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:45 All right. Here, wait. Here's, here's what I have, right? It's called Blue Bloods and College Basketball. This is historically speaking, they're only six, so it's even more exclusive. Kentucky, UNC, Indiana, Duke, UCLA, and Kansas. Wait, historically speaking, they're only six? That's what this person's saying.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Same again. Kentucky, UNC, Indiana, Duke, UCLA, and Kansas. That's what I'm saying. Michigan State is actually more borderline than like, if we're, if we're actually going off of just straight blue bloods, I, I agree with this person. That person I think is just confusing blue bloods with the color blue on uniforms. No, they're. These, except for Indiana, are all just these are, these are teams that are historically
Starting point is 00:08:21 like, you know, have been around for forever and been prominent forever. And also they're like, I don't know. There's something about basketball states. And then the next list is Connecticut, Georgetown, Louisville, Michigan State, Syracuse, Villanova. I kind of agree with this. Where this guy's going with this, like those guys could sneak in, but really if we're talking tonight, me versus Hank Syracuse, Duke. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:47 What's the mayor's bet? I mean, last time I won the short, the pants, but I gave them back before even getting them. Wait, what do you mean? You lost them back to him after you won them? I declined. I won the bet, but I declined the prize. The pants were so hideous that you didn't even want to claim them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:03 So he would have gotten my tithe, the dolphins one, but now maybe we can run it back. Yeah. Syracuse. There you go. The blue bloods. The blue bloods. Syracuse might be tier two. That means incest.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that where the term blue bloods come from? Yeah, hemophilia. Yeah, hemophilia. Your parents were brother and sister. How about how about loser has to wear a shirt and tie next time we play ping-pong and Soul Streams?
Starting point is 00:09:26 Billy. We actually know the origin of the word blue bloods because the people who didn't work outside were usually the upper class. And so you could see their blue veins through their skin because there was more translucent. So that's why they're blue bloods. The first record of the term blue blooded to mean noble descent dates to the early 19th century, but the notion actually stretches back much further. The concept likely originates in medieval Spain as Sangre Azul and is attributed to
Starting point is 00:09:54 the rich, powerful families of Castile. It's kind of close. It's close. It's close. No, it is. I have the sports version. Okay. Give it to us.
Starting point is 00:10:04 This is great. We're just going deep dive on blue bloods. The term blue blood refers to royalty or someone of noble births because they didn't have to do anything. Nobility had very pale skin, so their blue veins were extremely visible. So a basketball blue blood is just that, royalty. Their veins are just the most vascular basketball teams. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Or loyalty over royalty. What was the bronze thing? I forget. You made that. Dad to dad. As a father of three. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So blue bloods. I'm actually okay with this guy being like six and there's only six. There should be a finite amount. You can't just induct new blue bloods until you kick one of them out. There are, there are, there's new money like Villanova, Yukon, Florida. That's new money. Like Indiana. Yeah, they're technically blue blood, but I think they would probably be first one
Starting point is 00:10:47 out. Yeah. Although they do have last undefeated season, right? Is that true? Yes. Yeah. Last undefeated season. Who?
Starting point is 00:10:56 Indiana. Yeah. I got a check. Check. Okay. We're getting Jake. We're working overtime. Either way, college basketball feels so back.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Just the tournament feels like it's coming very, very soon. And everything is ready. 76 Indiana. There we go. So everything. Yeah. So, and this year will be interesting because we have Gonzaga. We have, we have three unbeatens, right?
Starting point is 00:11:17 We have Gonzaga, Baylor. And Joe Johnson. Marty Morse thinks he's the funniest person ever. But, but I feel like in yesterday's game, that was, that was the first time in months that somebody has been like, uh, like showed up on a national stage and you're like, that team can beat Baylor. That team can beat Gonzaga. Michigan.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Michigan. Yeah. Michigan's really good. Michigan's really good. I feel like we need to include them in that conversation. Yes. Baylor, Gonzaga, Michigan. That's it.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Do you think that, uh, Jalen Johnson's draft stock will get affected if they go and run without him? Actually. No. No. Okay. I do not. Just curious.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I think his like, the take, he'll get a lot of hot takes about him. But I think that his draft status will be whatever his draft status is because I don't think the actual people making the picks and the scouts care about what Duke did. Now, if this was, unless Gar Forman gets a job between now and then, if this was the NFL, then yes, there would be some GMs and some talent evaluators that would be like better off without him. He's a diva, but I think the NBA hasn't reached that level of hot takeness inside their own ranks yet.
Starting point is 00:12:22 The, I mean, we have a couple of months before the draft and we'll get into the whole draft eventually when we get there, but there's already a lot of talk about Zach Wilson not being a captain. A lot of talk, which I kind of agree with. If you're a quarterback, I'll put it this way. I'd prefer you to be a captain. It's so hard to be a quarterback and not be a captain. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yes. There's something. It's the, the, the Bo Callahan joke and draft a joke actually becomes real when you have a college quarterback who's a first round talent and not a captain and no one goes to his birthday party. He should, you know what he should do. If you're smart Zach Wilson, you need to release all the pictures of all your birthday parties and just, I don't care, just Photoshop everybody on your team into the background, make everybody
Starting point is 00:13:08 believe in you as a leader because like if you're, if you're a dominant college quarterback, you play at a good school like BYU and you're not elected captain, like you better have a first round pick at running back, first round pick at wide receiver. I don't think that BYU does. So it's like who were maybe, you know what? If I were him, I would be like, I was voted captain and I, I elected to give it to my center. Or he could say as 21 years old, I was actually the youngest guy on the team.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yeah. So do Mormons not believe in the birthdays? Is that Jehovah's Witness? That's Jehovah's Witnesses. Okay. So maybe he should just say he's a Jehovah's Witness. Yeah. Because he's an extra Mormon.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You could confuse some people and I'm confused right now just saying it and be like, I don't celebrate birthdays, therefore no one could come to it. Right. Mormon soak, but they celebrate birthdays. Right. That's what you do on your birthday. You just penis and vagina and you just hang out for a while. Jehovah's Witnesses.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Billy, every time we bring up soak, Billy looks at us like, huh? You know what soaking is Billy? Yeah. We went over it. Okay. All right. Good. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Let's talk golf. Max Homa won the Genesis Open. Tony Fienow. So congrats to Max. We're going to try to get him on later on this week. Tony Fienow is officially cursed. So I tweeted that question out there. Is Tony Fienow cursed?
Starting point is 00:14:29 He's not only cursed, there is a curse. Have you heard about the Puerto Rican Open? No. There's a legitimate curse out there and I'm so fucking in on it. So the Puerto Rican Open, Puerto Rico Open, that is the one win that Tony Fienow has. He has like a ton of top fives. He's finished top five at every major tournament. He's always there.
Starting point is 00:14:49 He's leading always on Saturday and then he falls apart on Sunday. The Puerto Rico Open has an 11-year history. This is from Will Gray, GC on Twitter, 11-year history. No winner has gone on to win any other tournament after they won the Puerto Rico Open. That's wild. How crazy is that? The only winner to win another tournament after they won the Puerto Rican Open is Michael Bradley who won the Puerto Rico Open again.
Starting point is 00:15:17 No other tournament. That doesn't count. That doesn't count. The definition of a fear of victory, right? Like you win, you're super happy and then you're just fucked, but what's the purse that the Puerto Rican Open? A lot. Because if it's high enough then I don't think that you really care that much.
Starting point is 00:15:29 No, you don't care. I was reading about it. It's great for, I think it is like three million maybe? Yeah, that's pretty good. No, wait. No, sorry. 540,000. I was way off.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Way off. Oh. Here's an even better one, right? Yeah, way off. Then Ryan Lavner, GC, so these guys are just working to get golf channel just fucking hopping on each other's tweets. He had this anecdote as well. Guys who finished second in the Puerto Rican Open, Jason Day, Jordan Spieth and Bryson
Starting point is 00:16:03 DeChambeau. The best part of their entire career was finishing second and not first. That's the money spot. Yeah. It is a cursed tournament. 11 years that it's been there and no one has ever won that tournament and then afterwards won another tournament. So when is the next one?
Starting point is 00:16:18 I think it just happened. I think it just happened, right? I was just saying we have to kidnap Brooks before that one. Yeah, I think this might be the one that he skipped. Oh, no, it hasn't happened yet. 2021 has not happened yet. It's this week. It's this week.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Brooks, don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Puerto Rico Open. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:40 February 25th to 28th. Cocoa Beach Golf and Clutch Club. That's crazy though. That is very good. There are other tournaments. None. But that's got to be the only one with a stat like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And so Tony Finau is cursed and if you can feel it, like the other guys that have won this tournament are not Tony Finau level golfers. Tony Finau. It's pretty clear he's cursed because he always is in the middle. It ends out on the Tony Finau curse thing until you brought up the Puerto Rico Open. I don't necessarily believe that Finau is cursed because I feel like golf always has a character like that and it changes over the course of the years, but there's always like one guy who's in contention at every major doesn't win and then finally he wins
Starting point is 00:17:18 one and then he might win another down the line. But I think it's just because golf is very hard to win majors. You're right. There's always that one guy that he can't win a tournament until it like he has 99.9 percent approval rate. Right. Filming was that way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And Jim Nance is literally crying on the broadcast trying to get him to victory. Yes. Then and only then can he win. He becomes like the favorite golfer of 55 year old dudes and whoever is lining up behind that guy eventually like when Phil Mickelson made that putt out of Gus and like Obama started tweeting about him. Right. Like dads across America were weeping and that's going to be Tony Finau and he'll win
Starting point is 00:17:54 one eventually. But I was I was shocked. Yeah. Really? I think so. I don't know. I don't know if we can get rid of the Puerto Rico curse. We are rooting for Bryson this weekend.
Starting point is 00:18:07 That's going to be wild. I'm a I'm a full on Bryson DeChambeau stand right now. Yeah. I mean Tony Finau must he has to probably be we're giving Jake a million things to work on. So add this and we'll circle back with it. He has to be like the highest earning golfer to only have one win because I feel like he cashed his checks every week.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah. They're like half a million. The majors when he finished like fourth place that's that's a pretty good weekend. I was shocked that that Max actually came back and won after that last hole on 18. He had his shot like three feet away. Got the yips the course beat him on 18. Do you know what it was? I think I think the the the and hopefully we'll have him on to ask him this.
Starting point is 00:18:47 But I think for Max he's good but he's so good at Twitter that that put he was being like what is Twitter going to say if I miss this because I thinking about it. Yeah. Because he's he has made half of his living half his living golf half of his living is roasting people on Twitter. Yeah. And at this point he has to think when he's playing like oh this one's not going to go well on Twitter either that or he's so good at Twitter that he knew that he would go viral
Starting point is 00:19:14 as fuck. You can miss that three foot and yes you did that that video got millions of impressions. It's the curse of being too online how how bad would it suck to like finish a tournament you've played. How do you do math was it seventy two holes. Yep. And then all of a sudden you have to play more golf like that would suck. I would be I if you have to play 18 holes of golf sober.
Starting point is 00:19:36 That's hell enough. Well I go back to 10 after you're done. No thank you. It's not bad for the single elimination. So the single elimination holes is totally fine though when with the PGA championship I think it is. Or no it might be the U.S. Open where you have to play a full 18. That's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:19:51 They might have changed that but that's what it was like when there was Tiger and Rocco back in the day. I think the one hole playoff is fucking awesome. I think that's electric. I think also you're like I mean for Tony Finau he was pumped to have that chance. Even though he's cursed. I mean it is crazy that Max was able to come back and win after that and he ended up hitting a couple of nice shots.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And behind the tree. Yeah I would. Right. That is the biggest example of the curse being true was like Max choked is not not choked like he he gave it away he gave it away. Max would tell if Max was watching Max on Twitter Max would say he choked. So it's only fair we say that he choked. So Tony Finau is number seventy eight all the time when it comes to money twenty one
Starting point is 00:20:31 million two hundred eighty five thousand. And this could be active. OK. Like Tiger Phil Furick. Yeah. They sing. Right below him at seventy nine is Bryson. So Bryson's won a major and Tony still makes more than him.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. I don't know. Don't you know. Don't cry for me Argentina. Don't cry for me Tony Finau. But someone actually did tweet that he thinks that there's a rumor out there that Tony Finau
Starting point is 00:20:56 is like a long lost cousin of Seamus Fleming Frank Fleming's great great grandfather. That was a grandfather. Wasn't his great great grandmother also very unlucky like she bought a potato farm right before Seamus. Seamus started the potato family. OK. In Ireland. He mushed the entire nation.
Starting point is 00:21:12 The entire island. And I think it became like a stock trader in nineteen twenty two nineteen twenty nine. Yeah. Yeah. A huge blimp fan back in the teens. He got into the mortgage business in 2007. Oh that was me. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:24 So what else we got on sports. It was an awesome weekend. Awesome. The first win was fun because I really like when we have him on like two months ago three months ago. Yeah. But I feel like we've grown. We've grown along with Max these last couple of last couple of months and he's actually
Starting point is 00:21:41 like come close to winning before that's the homosexual nation that we talked about last week. Like we're here. We're proud. Yep. I also appreciate how much you know he plays a lot of war zone like I'll go on at any night and he's just like on their grinding and that's one of those things we're today is pro athlete winning millions of dollars and he just goes home and just like us.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Hunt stops. Yes. At the end of the day. Oh. Everyone likes merkin. The only other news is Johnny Damon got arrested for DUI which that had to have been the biggest oh you think story. Like that.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Sabrametrically his his blood alcohol level was a point three oh that's he was three quarters the way dead dead if you're a point four oh and he was like smiling he looked like he was relatively lucid in his mug shot but that's point three oh is like that's first ballad hall of fame drunk stuff. I wonder I mean I don't credit to the police officer for even understanding him because you can't understand him when he's sober but that was the rare story where you were I was scrolling the timeline saw it and you could have told me that was six years old and I would have been like yeah that makes sense yeah that how that was the least shocking
Starting point is 00:22:46 DUI arrest of all time. Yeah the only thing I missed was he should have had the beard. I wish he still had the caveman beard because he actually looked better than I thought he would look. Yeah. In his mug shot for a point three oh blood alcohol level. Yeah. Like I wanted to see him in full on homeless shaggy guy mode but I guess the Yankees took
Starting point is 00:23:04 that out of him. It's really sad. I would imagine Johnny Damon's personal lawyer like had a file ready to go already for the yeah yeah like he just like how they pre-write obituaries like you know ABC date his lawyer just opened up who came into work the next day open up the file cameras like in case of DUI or when DUI happens here's our defense. There are certain guys out there that you you should definitely have that pre-written. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:28 He's getting it's pretty much it's half a baseball I would say has DUI I mean you get to drink in the in the clubhouse after every game yeah it's a crime and it's in Florida if you're 162 I just assumed that if you retired baseball player and you live in Florida you've got at least two or three DUIs already under your belt and Arizona. Arizona and Florida. Yeah yeah I feel like Arizona might be the most DUI of all the states Minnesota is shockingly high. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Yeah. Can you get them on like a sled I think dog sled anything that would be probably the old that's the final boss of a DUI is like getting your dogs pulled over because you're too drunk. What if the dogs are drunk yeah that's really bad don't do that don't do not do don't drink and drive period don't be Johnny Damon that's that's a great way to live life all right let's do our who's back of the week and then we have Ryan Whitney awesome awesome interview with Ryan Whitney even though he was disrespectful to Billy but who's back of the week is brought
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Starting point is 00:25:44 of the game on the ESPN app yeah it was pretty good right it also had the meat like it had the college football music it will fill the void of like the XFL like it's better than the XFL was last year it's better than like whatever other sports leases like coach prime yeah yeah I agree I think if you were to rank like a spring football leagues FCS is one the new XFL actually know the old XFLs to new XFLs three then you have all the USL whatever that was that we all forgot about and then the one that Johnny football is over the Glacier Boys this year by the way I think I'm a Glacier Boys fan oh nice no I'm not a zap no no Glacier Boy then not yet Glacier Boys yeah oh is that Migos yeah that is boys that's yeah okay
Starting point is 00:26:27 yeah we're Glacier Boys I'm a Migo what is your who is your who's back my who's back of the week is is being woke being woke is back big time little programming announcement Arian Foster and I are doing a podcast it's going to be coming out every single Tuesday it's going to be basically just about being woke as fuck about everything so we're going to be diving into like conspiracies dark web stuff whatever Arian is getting obsessed with that week and we're going to do stuff on clubhouse too so I don't really know what clubhouse is or understand it but we're going to try to go on clubhouse and then use what we get off clubhouse to also go into the podcast what's it called it's called thank you Hank
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Starting point is 00:28:29 video of Cam Newton getting berated by what seemed like a high school kid at a seven on seven tournament and the reaction is naturally how could you do this to Cam Newton respect Cam Newton sports center tweeted out oh here's a list of all his accomplishments Heisman Trophy national championship MVP everything right everyone's saying Cam Newton in his prime was incredible yes Cam Newton in his prime was incredible it almost is Cam Newton free agent yeah yeah it almost feels like that was kind of set up to remind everyone how awesome Cam Newton was interest we'll put out a video of Cam getting disrespecting that people are forced to recall how great he is at football because you're right this
Starting point is 00:29:09 is the this is the most sympathetic press Cam Newton correct in the last year not only that but this is it is a universal this kid's being a shithead I'm kind of on team kid here like there's not a single person yes you was correct tank almost like when do you see that on the internet when it's like a no brainer exactly mm-hmm it's just this is perfect like if you listen the level of wokeness that this takes to get to all I'm saying is if there are that's what you have to think about yes it PR people we know PR people who could absolutely set something like this up bleep this name could absolutely set that I don't know man I think if it was set up he would have been wearing a fancier outfit this isn't the first
Starting point is 00:29:57 time this has happened there's another video you also notice he had a Peloton jacket on he probably got paid by Peloton so this is all my big bike dip he got a double dip no he's like hey we're gonna do viral video to help cams rep and get everyone on cam side oh do we want to get an advertiser involved maybe get a little extra we also had a statement that he put out yeah I mean the marketing marketing people more than PR people he just managed to have on deck yep how long do you think it would take cam newton to write an Instagram post that long dude I'm just probably days I know no big head this is a perfect crime do the math on it because I think that you're onto something yes in order to type all those
Starting point is 00:30:36 weird letters in and to write that entire like two paragraph statement that he put out there was enough time that passed between when the video came out and when the post appeared that thing was ready to go hey wait for the follow-up wait for the follow-up I guarantee you that part of the follow-up they have to have cam newton they told the kid because the kid's villain number one on the internet today like you know the old saying you don't want to be the main story on the internet today like he was the main story for a little bit cam newton's gonna take him under his wing cam newton's gonna do a fucking e-60 with him and Jeremy Schapp is gonna be like oh this is great like what became a viral video has now become a great
Starting point is 00:31:12 relationship and cam newton is teaching this kid how to play quarterback and and now this kid has all these d1 it goes fucking deep how cocked would Tony Dungey be if that's what happened if like you know that Tony is on a plane right now trying to find that kid to mentor him if cam swoops in becomes a good guy instead of him sometimes you can like see something in 4d and you're you're shocked at your own brain and this was one of those times for me when I saw this I like uh-uh I just uh-uh I am pro talk shit to people but I'm also pro cam newton should have just absolutely nuked the kid cam should have been able to throw the kid like onto his street just like cam you should be able to defend yourself
Starting point is 00:31:55 like jazz from fresh prince yeah yeah yeah where somebody's being that disrespectful like I'm a little bit concerned that's actually what's telling me that cam newton isn't healthy because if he was he should have just swung on the kid like Josh Norman yes yes when he bragged all of Josh Norman was laughing at him but this isn't the first time he's gone into verbal arguments with kids I who uh cam newton yeah are you talking about the video are you saying the commercial no when it's a little kid being like play no no there's another video of him like getting in the face of a kid I think he chirps the kids and then they chirp back I think he provokes it yeah no no but like the guy talks trash he's talking about like it was
Starting point is 00:32:33 when he like gave a ball to someone and the kid took it and he yelled at the kid or something which was fair no no no there's another one it's it's at a similar camp type thing this and he gets in the kid's face and says listen kid like yeah so I think Billy I think I think I know what video you're talking about Billy is it this one no dude yeah that guy yeah anyway my my my who's back of the week is respecting your elders all right boomer so uh that's it that's the video you're talking about yeah you're right he does get in the face he's got a history now Billy's looking you're trying to find out about what gets in the face of trash talking teen okay it's gonna be the video from today no it's not uh all right so Billy who's respecting
Starting point is 00:33:32 your elders um well honestly I did some introspection and realized that uh I may have beat up an old man and seeing this cam newton video a long time ago uh anyway seeing this cam newton video made me realize like we should really bring back respecting your elders and um not to call anyone elderly right but uh I just think you know I need to be more respectful to my elders okay why because that's who my who back all right who would be an example of an elder how old are we talking when we say elders elder I think like grandparents yeah yeah who is older like how old like gray hair like 28 and 36 no 228 year olds not 36 year olds like just those who have accomplished a lot and need respect wait you're 28 I'm 27 are you sure pretty sure okay I
Starting point is 00:34:31 think you're 28 the funniest part of that video I think is the fact that Billy also called Hank old now it's like three years older than him yeah right right Billy Billy is trying to take our jobs Billy yeah you are you say to our boss you know who's getting old pft big cat and Hank you being threatened no no shows weakness no no I'm not and now I'm thinking I just should I go for the kill I'm seeing a little weakness Billy you know what really shows weakness is apologizing Billy apologized over a group text we thought maybe it was a moment of growth because you left 30 pounds of rabbit meat sitting in the lobby um which is totally normal thing I think most kids and their early 20s make mistakes like that uh but then you apologize for it and our
Starting point is 00:35:14 initial reaction was like whoa Billy that's impressive you you actually you admitted that you did something bad instead of lying about it actually now I've reversed on that take I think that was a beta move of you tucking your tail and apologizing no it's just respecting you were such an alpha when you used to lie now I don't even know I just have a problem where I can't say no to people so if a guy says I want to send you 30 pounds of rabbit meat I'm not gonna say no yeah true never say no to that yeah Billy don't act like getting 30 pounds of dead rabbit in the mail wasn't like the best thing that's happened to me I have so many plans for it uh Jake you gotta who's back because Billy sucked well you took mine Billy I always you always got to come
Starting point is 00:35:53 with a couple I know you know you're the penultimate person to go yeah nice right nice Jake um I have two oh good job Jake run up to score bids no that was not intentional that was a good job Jake great job Jake great job thanks uh one is uh time lapses pft actually pointed this out uh with the winter classic yep the uh Lake Tahoe and we're gonna talk about the sun and gary betman with Whitney so I didn't forget about I was uh yeah it was it was quite a time lapse uh two is uh from the blind side sj2e he got the job as a director of football operations at August Malzano UCF remember the blind side yeah that's the sun yeah little brother yeah terrible they put that car crash in the movie it was like a PG movie I never
Starting point is 00:36:46 saw the movie I actually I don't want you thought the car crash was too violent I don't want I think for a Disney movie I read the book it was a Disney movie I did read the book I thought it was fine I read every Michael Lewis book I feel like Disney movie and car crashes yeah I can't speak to the movie have you seen the Bambi intro of up Lion King oh yeah intro of up yeah what about what about what about when uh what about when they like slaughter a young cubs dad in front of them is that okay so they cross when they hunt down Bambi's mother and kill her in front of Bambi is that was that that was cool getting poisoned and she falls asleep for the rest of her life basically that's also in Disney movie how was the movie was it good yeah it was great I didn't
Starting point is 00:37:26 see it big Mike I read the book that's what I call him uh pro tip for everyone out there just anytime Michael Lewis comes out with a book read it because it will most likely end up being a movie what else do you do big short money ball okay and blindside he's the he's the book to movie guy he is the book to movie what you got Billy I got the cam Newton clip the first one okay that was like four topics to go yep all right so I got Ryan Whitney Billy I'll give you a good who's back you ready no yeah I don't know Trent Richardson yeah Roda Canton starts now he's Mexico future hall of famer he's joining the cardidos de chihuahua of the Mexican-American football league I wouldn't mind Jersey in this no not at all I would love one of those but he's I think he's just inventing
Starting point is 00:38:10 new leagues to join so that he can technically say I'm still a football player and in the interview with him he was like he didn't really know what he was going to be doing for the team which I guess isn't that different from when he was on the Browns but he was like I don't know if I'm going to be playing or if I'm going to be like around the team helping them out in various ways and then it just devolved into him being like I got daughters now that are going into high school and they're always on their phones and they don't see me very often and it just went in these like weird directions and I was thinking like is Trent Richardson okay yeah probably not if you like Trent Richardson went from being really good to just unbelievably shitty yeah almost overnight yes what happened
Starting point is 00:38:52 to them well uh yeah I don't know he just had no vision Billy how are the QB breakdowns coming oh they're going great yeah great all right let's get to Ryan Whitney uh brought to you by our friends at Chevy Silverado the strongest most advanced Silverado ever the Silverado is strong advanced dependable hardworking this Silverado is dependable like the people who drive them the design is big bold and commanding this truck turns heads a partner with grit and determination anything is possible and Silverado is a partner in that you can uh if you're trying to become a truck person tailgating hauling towing off-roading moving day helping out your friend or family member road trips also shout out that one guy I think he was in uh North Dakota maybe Minnesota I don't know
Starting point is 00:39:39 but he worked at a Chevy dealership and he said that if anyone comes in ask buys a Silverado and says the promo code take uh he will give them $100 and a tank of gas I love it so we're doing a tank for you people he will help them people he was like done the first verbal podcast promo takes being exchanged I love it but seriously if you are thinking about becoming a truck person it starts and ends with Silverado the Chevy Silverado the best truck ever created I am going to someday be a truck person and I am going to be a Chevy Silverado owner so make sure if you're thinking about becoming that truck person which you should be because like I said tailgating hauling uh off-roading all that stuff Chevy Silverado is the way to go
Starting point is 00:40:22 so go check it out you can buy them anywhere and say code take or PMT and hopefully the person you're buying your Chevy Silverado from is an AWL and they'll give you $100 cash and a tank of gas so there you go all right here he is Ryan Whitney all right we now welcome on one of our favorite guests we've been promising the people I don't think I've ever had uh as many tweets in the past week being like where the fuck is Whitney you promised us Whitney it is Ryan Whitney spitting checklists you know I seriously you are the people's champ so Whit is here spitting chicklets if you don't listen I mean everyone in the world listens but if you don't it's the number one hockey podcast uh so we want to talk number one podcast in Canada number one podcast in Canada
Starting point is 00:41:08 that's a fact I have a question first though before we start yeah who who farted ah it wasn't me it was great question I can't tell you I can't tell you who it was I can tell you who it wasn't that's this guy okay I have I have a non hockey question to start yep uh you're in Florida right now are how's the golf game looking the golf game's nice I just played in a tournament in Tampa this past week um I'm playing a lot I think I got some of this like tennis elbow which is weird that it's not golfers elbow but mine's tennis elbow but it's been driving me nuts it's been driving me crazy so I've been icing that thing but I'm still playing a lot I'm playing a lot it's hockey tough yeah yeah wow congratulations have you played with any famous people no I haven't I haven't
Starting point is 00:41:52 no okay no I'm hoping to maybe meet meet one famous guy and play with him but nothing yet damn all right well I'm rooting for you to play with some famous people thanks Dan I've got I've got a question for you because people might not know you uh from doing spin chicklets it might just be like that's the guy from the new Amsterdam vodka commercial that's always on my television did you write the line more like Paul missed the net or did someone else someone wrote that for you right you guys wrote it this wrote it himself bit we got to that commercial and it was the longest day of my life it was we did three different commercials and all the scripts for each commercial was like the corny and shit like stuff we'd never stay it was just so awkward and biz is like nope
Starting point is 00:42:33 nope we'd never say this absolutely not and he just rewrote the whole thing and he just said what to say at all times pretty much night at least out of every 10 words I said biz gave me nine of them I'm shocked that Paul it was like the main writer did he get credit for for writing that all is a is a he's a fascinating human being you guys know biz he's like a genius in some ways and completely out to lunch in other ways it's very hard to describe but he is very good in terms of like um imagination thinking of things how to write a commercial who would have guessed a vivid imagination all right let's talk some hockey um so did you know that the sun exists so it is a thing it gets hot and uh sometimes in the area that they call Lake Tahoe it can be warm in the winter
Starting point is 00:43:21 did you know that well also it comes out in the day yeah so typically around noon like they call that afternoon area like that window between noon and four that's usually when the sun's out yeah depends on where you are on the planet but yeah you know that's pretty much a solid time point that you gotta rely on the sun so if people who who maybe weren't paying attention this weekend the uh winter classic is in Lake Tahoe this weekend it's actually an incredible incredible like setup scenic views pictures like if you close your eyes and said what an outdoor hockey a perfect outdoor hockey game would look like it was this setup unfortunately the sun was out as it sometimes happens uh on saturday during the day and now the NHL has done a bunch
Starting point is 00:44:07 of outdoor games uh gary betman even said we've done everything we played in snow we played in rain but sunshine has always been our enemy and uh they had to delay the game so do you do you guys like playing these outdoor games or is it kind of is it kind of old hat now i'm kind of all over the map with this i got chance to play in the first one not to make it about me not a big deal i got to play in the first one was nuts it was cross we scored as the shootout winner snowing buffalo it was perfection how it went now as it went along and it went along like you know the classic which is always new year's day i actually think it's great because it's something different guys do enjoy playing it and i mean like it's people it's right before like the rose ball
Starting point is 00:44:48 and stuff like it's a good it's a good time to have it so i think that's been great the years have gone on where they started doing you know just the uh would they do the series like the winter classic series where the teams are playing games they did a game at air force they've done a game in LA they've kind of done them everywhere so in a sense like i do feel bad chirping them for this mishap and what happened with colorado vegas but i mean it's worked everywhere else they did one in dallas last year and it was sick dallas nashville we were down there so i i know that like the planning sounds ridiculous but it kind of was the perfect storm of sun to ruin the game daytime i think i think guys are a little are probably are probably enjoying
Starting point is 00:45:27 getting to do it right now because like the year's so boring and they can't leave their hotels and at least this is something different but i'm sure there's guys they'll tell you like all right enough's enough like it's kind of it's lost it's uh we've lost us our course here on the outdoor game i kind of agree with you that the new year's day one felt special and then when they added extra ones it's like but and this one you know we all had our fun on saturday with gary betman because it's it you can't predict that it's going to be exactly like that because i think the temperature was it was freezing so it's just the quote that he had when he said if you look up at the sun the cloud covers everywhere but where the sun is and it's like okay dude yeah that's yeah
Starting point is 00:46:06 that happens sometimes no big cat that's how you can see the sun when the cloud doesn't cover it so yeah so that's how you're looking up in terms of just the actual game how different is it to play outside versus indoors at the beginning it's crazy i think you get used to it the day in buffalo it was freezing so we had the heat warmers on the bench football style and it was like you ended up getting into it depending if you play the decent amount or not but at the at the beginning it is weird and i think like to have the fans around it was it was awesome and and that's the one thing i did want to say about people who chirp the game it nobody who's at these games is is upset about them like it's the tailgate everyone gets wrecked it's like it's all about
Starting point is 00:46:47 for the people that are there so then this year right like i think it would have been even more difficult because you see the guys see the fans and the people watching this year you're just looking out on this lake and it was probably like actually probably pretty cool i'm guessing at the beginning i mean i know watching on tv when it came on i was like this this looks yes incredible yes like they should never have fans again at these or put them in places that are just picturesque so i don't know i don't know what was the question again i don't even remember yeah oh oh actual playing the game is it harder oh yeah at the beginning but you get used to it no doubt unless the sun's in your eyes but that means the clouds aren't covering the sun yeah uh-huh yeah it was actually
Starting point is 00:47:22 a very cloudy day for a sunny day so i i do respect the fact that care about you can't plan on having a sunny cloudy day well it's like when you know the guy was like look at this guy look at the day there's not a cloud in the sky and then the other the guy was like oh there's one there like you kind of yeah that guy have you ever played any game where you have to like start and stop you know after a period you have to wait you know sit around for the entire rest of the day oh that was crazy i've had to wait you know we had like in college hockey stuff finals or semi-finals right like you're the second game and the first game went into double triple ot i think so you're waiting around but like you never actually played part of the game you never went out and warm up she hadn't actually
Starting point is 00:48:00 skated yet so like the the thought of them getting undressed having to dry their equipment having the trainers to do the laundry and like get everything redone for just the second period sounded like a nightmare to me because what do you go back and sleep it's like i guess they approach it like a whole new game but definitely nothing like that i've ever been a part of that's a good question like what do they do they do laundry do you wash all the jerseys and then is there time i don't i don't i bet you they probably did wash the jerseys and then the laundry like you're actually like ginge what you wear underneath i mean you're just you got bags and bags of that you got your backup set for the game if they didn't want to get it done that quick
Starting point is 00:48:33 maybe they did though guys are very superstitious yeah all right so the other big story from the weekend sydney crossby thousandth win you played with sydney crossby that was a game really thousand games sorry uh thousandth game not thousandth win thousandth game that would have been crazy uh you played with him uh is he where is he on all time hockey players list and you know you're not good at the double question so i'll just start with that i actually crushed double questions i've really improved since we first met on that so fuck right off and i will answer the first part and that is i actually think it's um in no particular order i i haven't i i haven't prepared enough to give you that order i don't know if i even could do it but it's uh wing gratsky
Starting point is 00:49:18 mario lemieux sydney crossby bobby or gordy how okay no particular order that's your top five crossby's in my top five players of all time wow what about what about best scores oh betschkin okay i think the best goal score of all time i know he doesn't have the most goals which he actually somehow might break although it's a tough start right now for his season uh goal wise but oh betschkin is is right there with uh gratsky and how top goal scores of all time so you played with one of the top five guys of all time uh did you like what's your what's your best crossby story not even off ice but like on ice just how how how it was to play with him and did he make your job and everyone's job that much easier just having him like on the ice with you well you know everyone
Starting point is 00:50:03 who listens to spit and checkouts no i just say thanks sit all the time so in terms of making things easy for me big cat i i'm not lying to you i had 10 assists one year that i was sitting on the bench once the goal was scored because i just passed it to him i passed it to him in the neutral zone or our own zone and he's like and then like he ends up scoring or giving it to someone else and i'd be like uh you know goal scored by afghani malek and assisted by sydney crossby and ryan went and i was like what i was like oh my god i did give it to him a minute and a half ago so it was like his his his first i mean my first memory of like my before my first memory of like hearing about syd was like you know this kid's the next great one it's like he's he can't miss and so
Starting point is 00:50:46 i mean you've you've heard of different players before and it doesn't work out but everything was kind of aligning for him and then the nhl season was cancelled so you couldn't figure out who was going to get the first overall pick for crossby in the year prior uh pittsburgh you know they were so bad and i think that they won the lottery i don't remember they i don't remember how they did the lottery but pittsburgh won my brother came flying flying and that was like pittsburgh got crossby you're gonna play with crossby like i was like oh my god like and i hadn't you know ever seen the kid play but all you'd heard is like this is this is it so i got to camp and uh buddy of mine noah well she's from boston he's in camp with the penguins played a little bit
Starting point is 00:51:24 with the penguins as well he was in the group uh the first group in the morning right which is like crossby's group and he came off he's like he's the best hockey player to ever live he's like he's doing things i was like what is it that crazy and then i got the chance to watch and see and it was like a different game i know like people say now mc david's doing things that have never been done crossby was one of those guys you'll never forget seeing what he'd do he was so fast through the neutral zone and then he was enormous his lower half he's got a huge ass huge legs and he's just like down low you can't get the puck away from him he's quick he's like driving off you and just embarrassing guys in practice and in games and he was all 18 it was it was nuts i love those
Starting point is 00:52:04 types of stories though because it is like the guys who are truly special i feel like everyone just knows right away and they're like okay this is just totally different than anyone else who just shows up at 18 years old yeah there was a there was like moments when guys are he's giving guys passes that have you know he's giving zygman paulfi mark recky passes where they're almost not even ready for it just because there's no way somebody could have got that puck to me like there was no lanes how is it there and then like so making everyone's life easier uh the second year which i think is his best year in the end i don't know if he'd say that but he won mvp and that was my biggest year that's the only reason i got a contract is that year and we had this play right it was like i was i
Starting point is 00:52:44 was backdoor guy in the power play i don't know how i weaseled my way onto this power play it was sergey gonshar uh sydney crossby of genny malek and mark recky and then me the pigeon so i'm like playing the off side and then crossby's finding me right he's if you if you know hawke he's he's on the half ball at the puck and i'm going down to the backdoor of the net and he keeps hitting me i'm like not ready for it or i can't handle it it's such a hard pass but it's right on my tape and the assistant co assistant coach mike yo um he he's he's coached as a head coach in the nhl since but he's like you have to learn to like handle this pass you gotta learn to get a shot off he's gonna keep finding you so he actually helped me a ton mike yo and practice after practice
Starting point is 00:53:22 sure enough i started like being able to just like one time these things i'm not kidding you would be a kind of a cross ice pass that i would just have my stick and like really firmly hold my bottom hand and thing would go up up beat the goalie because the pass was so perfect nobody could see it coming so i was able to like really benefit from getting points and signing a huge contract directly because of him how long into his career did he get like uh what did the hazing stop with him because i have to imagine if a guy comes in who's that good right and everybody's talking about him like okay he's the next gratsky he's this young hotshot on our team i feel like you guys probably had to break him in a little bit there was probably a little element of like we got to make sure this
Starting point is 00:54:01 kid doesn't get a big head no it wasn't nobody was said i think i actually think that's like different for some guys it was like i mean i'm sure you know guys were busting his balls and stuff but there was no like pranks being being pulled on cross be really he was like if they were if they were they were minor ones that would laugh like they were ruining my shoes and like cutting holes in my suits you didn't do that to him i would imagine getting tossed we're going to get back to ryan whitney but before we do want to talk to you guys about core seltzer we love core seltzer it is the coldest tasting seltzer in america it's the best seltzer in america core seltzer is legitimately uh the most refreshing drink that we have in the office it's way better
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Starting point is 00:56:21 hockey uh this season do you like the setup that that like the playoff setup and how everything is different where we could actually have a Stanley Cup final that is two you know two east teams you know that are usually on the east or two west teams do you like that do you like that it's just all kind of chaotic i love it i i think the all canadian division is sick and people people kind of chirp because they get the most love and granted i mean hockey in canada and i think that toronto's a wagon they're nasty but i don't know how deep the division is so people are like oh my god they're gonna come whoever comes out of that division and they're gonna get smoked anyways but i'm a huge fan and i know that it sucks for players because like i mean the blues the blues played
Starting point is 00:57:03 the coyotes seven straight games yeah like this is ridiculous but i think as a fan it is like fun to watch and the playoffs is what'll be what'll be crazy because four teams from each division and then at the end the final four you got a one or from each and it's like all of a sudden the Bruins play the canadiens in the cup final it's like there's so many different options here that i'm wondering if they'll be able to build on some of it i don't know if you can ever like actually do this again or you'd want to because you want each guy you want fans to get the chance to see mcdavid and obechkin and cross me like it doesn't make sense but for this one year as crazy as it's been i think it's doing great and i know there's been madness in terms of like covid which
Starting point is 00:57:41 every sport is dealing with with cancellations but in the end the games are going to get played and hockey's going on so i'm a huge fan of what's going on only because the rivalry is forming and and basically the storylines write themselves with these games back to back to back yeah and the the maple leafs are really good but they are i feel like the maple leafs as a franchise at least in america we don't talk about them as being one of the all-time like most heartbreaking franchises to root for but they've had their moments they're like they are right up there with a lot of the atlanta stats that we'd like to throw out of the the minnesota stats that we throw out but um is this can you give hope to toronto fans this year or is it it's going to be a letdown i think you can
Starting point is 00:58:19 i think it's six 1967 so what is that 53 50 i'm a math guy 53 years i mean i it's like you don't really you remember the rangers when they won theirs there was the signs 54 years finally like now i can die in peace like the the maple leafs have been pathetic and i wouldn't say pathetic because a lot of years they had good teams couldn't get out of the east but now they have a team that is like legitimately built to win a stand the cup i think they got fortan they got wane simmons they have like toughness they got good d their goal tending saw it and matthew's i'll say mariner's mariner's an amazing player matthew's right now has kind of taken over the league at least goal scoring wise he's on pace to score 55 goals in a 55 game season whatever it is so i i've actually
Starting point is 00:59:04 come out and said um that i'm rooting for the toronto maple leafs to stand the cup to win the cup this year that's my team this year i want them to win i think biz might have came out and said the same thing so we're maple leafs bandwagon bandwagon guys i just like i love their uniforms i love the history i love the drama how like hockey is just if they have a bad game all these ridiculous nutcase maple leafs fans are saying the team sucks and if they it's just like the passion behind maple leafs fans and that team is so good that i want to see him get it done why did they spell their name fs why isn't it maple leaves that's a great question dude i have no clue yeah i don't know either great question um my one black ox question uh so there this was supposed to be a
Starting point is 00:59:48 lost year they're playing really well yeah a lot of young guys playing really well obviously taze you know is out and and kind of mysteriously but hopefully he's okay but are we buying that they could possibly get into playoffs because it is weird to look at like they've won i think seven or seven out of last nine or whatever it may be now but they also have played more games than other teams that they're around so it's hard to like totally judge if they could be in the top four of their division yeah i said um because chief's been all over them and then loving like what kind of team they have or not what kind of team they have but how they play and i said it's great to watch but there's there's no chance they're making the playoffs no chance i just don't i i just don't see
Starting point is 01:00:30 it happening there's like the depth isn't there maybe if taves comes back but who knows what's going on there hope he is all right but it's still fun because they're like a team that i think not much was expected and if you ask most blackhawks fans they're like the pesky the pesky hawks like they're not really giving up any games like they are way more difficult to play against than people thought and the main reason well uh to brinkette bouncing back he had a tough year after he signed that big deal last year he's been great but kane is just like a different different animal it's like i i i continually wonder like will he slow down chicago's not as good and every year he's right right near the top of the league it's like a truly hall of fame all-time great player patrick kane so
Starting point is 01:01:10 i think the ability to have him still out there and just generating whenever he wants he scored that spin around spin around a back angle the other day he just does things that like there's very few people in the world that can do it so as long as he's there i guess they'll have a way better chance than i gave him yeah oh i i just remembered you just uh triggered my second sydney crossby question i was gonna ask i don't know how the hall of fame works in in hockey will you be invited with when sydney crossby gets into the hall of fame we'd be part of like the crew i doubt it come on we the only thing i have going for me is uh like chicklets um we we interviewed him he came on he came on that so you know obviously he likes biz and i had enough to
Starting point is 01:01:54 to have done that show because he's pretty private guy um and we were rookies together so like maybe looks back like oh we were same year we witnessed the nhl together i brought him to a bar in boston we got waffled i i mean i just don't think we're that close that i'm going that i'm going to his hall of fame game i just i haul us hall of fame induction i don't know they always have like old teammates they could just yeah i know i know but like i didn't win a cup with them he's won three so there's so many teammates that want a cup thanks for bringing it up and i just hope i hope that maybe um when i text him when he gets into the hall of fame he texts me back like thanks man i think what you have to do is you just have to make a name for yourself as the biggest sydney crossby
Starting point is 01:02:35 supporter in the world i like a great way to do it i don't listen to chicklets you guys that that is that has been like no you know all time and i also obnoxiously brought up that i am the stan but i just heard you say that he's not the greatest hockey player of all time yeah like when i asked that you should be like number one number one and it's not even close that's what you should say you should be the sydney crossby guy then you'll get that invitation you need to do like you're you guys you're not a big NBA guy mind pretzeling me right now you're you're not a big guy but you what you need to do is you need to become like the nick right for lebron you need to do that for sydney crossby you need to have stats like ready to go like oh
Starting point is 01:03:17 you know you know everything that is just twisted so that sydney crossby is the greatest of all time is indisputable if i ask you for who's the best you're like yeah you know sydney crossby actually has if you if you do it like per game and you break it down like he's actually 10 times better than wing gratsky you need that if that gets me to toronto on uh whatever night that is probably in like 10 years then i will start doing we're gonna have a rock yeah i'll write it down on my hand just every day just reink it so i don't forget you need to cut up like highlight reels of uh what the goal turning was like in the 80s and just show like a bunch of goalies falling on the face and be like this is who wing gratsky was scoring very valid argument right there although
Starting point is 01:03:57 frankie berelli thought he couldn't even play in the nhl i think yeah that was very stupid what i'm muting very stupid very is it true like how bad were the goalies in the 1980s i mean it's tough to say right like now they look horrific but how bad do i don't know like golfers look in the 80s like they're all like fat slobs like i don't know it's just of what they were back then i'm sure like you look back at offense and say wow guys weren't making many saves but they their pads where they were wearing like boston globes taped around their like legs they didn't even have pads so now the goal is you can't even see the net it's hard but they did suck i mean there's videos there's plenty of videos of guys in the 70s and 80s scoring slap shots on the ice like that doesn't happen anymore
Starting point is 01:04:40 right right um i like that i hate the boston globe too but sorry to visual just you know just getting out there with do you think you could have played without a helmet oh god no my ears i would have tripped over that i would have my ear would have caught the the plexiglass ripped right off i actually i actually um who was i talking was there still a guy well who's the last guy again craig mctaff i think craig mctaffish was the last player was he still in the league when you were because he got grandfathered no no i never played against somebody that didn't wear a helmet but but people would say like he would stand in front of the net and just like come off after shifts just like straight up like nicks needing stitches and his like forehead he's like i don't care oh
Starting point is 01:05:24 they said they they said craig mctaffish too would take face offs and just like headbutt the guy with the helmet on he was taking the face off i love that that was a grandfather rule that's like okay you you know what you've been playing without a helmet for long enough that the damage has already been done you're not i got grandfathered yeah i know i got grandfathered and for one thing which was the um i they made people start wearing half shields when you come into the league and and i i never did until i got sent to the miners at the end where you had to so i got grandfathered in for one thing yeah he okay so i'm looking up right now 96 97 he played he's i remembered like being like how's there one guy who's not he doesn't have a helmet on that guy's great you're like that guy's
Starting point is 01:06:02 crazy and he probably liked it right um the craig the the really crazy thing though is when the goalies didn't have helmets on because yeah i mean maybe it was the 50s whatever zhok plant like whoever started i don't know exactly what year it was and they were shooting it on the ice and they weren't shooting it as heavy and hard as they are now but deflections were still happening yes goalies are staying there getting getting pucks are getting tipped they're hitting shin pads and going flying into their nose so that those are the true lunatics yeah yeah it's crazy that to think that anybody never like back in the day you didn't sit down think maybe if i'm going to play goalie i'm going to wear a face mask or a helmet like that's yeah hey man you want to play goalie like
Starting point is 01:06:40 can i get a helmet pussy yeah man card um speaking of being a tough guy do you do you think that now your fighting record wasn't great do you think you could have beaten up hosey kinsako that night yeah the other night yeah yeah i would i mean i would hope so i mean billy billy came out of hard which was great but like that guy looked like a stumbling drunk walking out of a bar walking into the ring it's true billy football billy football this like does billy football think he knocked him out or does he know he took a dive he's listening right now go ahead billy billy tell tell me about the fight tell him what you were he just quit he'd he thought i was a joke and then i showed up and so it wasn't it wasn't taking a dive for the money like didn't matter who
Starting point is 01:07:26 it was he's like if he know if he didn't think you were a killer coming out he would have gone put on a show but the thing is he realized he made a business decision yeah you know at the end of the day well you were in war mode hey whatever helps you sleep at night billy i hate when people say it's a fucking dive because the thing about a dive is everyone's on the same page for a dive because you're supposed to make it not look like a dive that's the whole point of a dive but you your mind was switched to the point where like you were ready to kill him yeah 100 yeah i mean it was very impressive that opening bell boom you were on your you were on your toes right after billy i jumped that was the that was the that was the plan throw over 100 punches how much weight did
Starting point is 01:08:02 you gain before the fight i lost a ton yeah billy was trying to throw 140 punches in the first round that was his plan i i i can hit the target number no that was his team was like 140 dude i would hit the bag for a minute it in straight i'd go up to 140 in a minute yeah actually no no those are actually minute 30 rounds okay yeah i was doing who's next uh on the card i'm waiting for jake paul lose to ben askering then i'm gonna call him out hopefully i love it that's the next step but man he's gonna see that fight again so it can take a lot nothing to do with you yeah got some good tape out there absolutely yeah i mean it sucks that it wasn't a longer fight i feel bad like i was there to like you know scrap right get my ass like once you got into the ring it was it was war zone
Starting point is 01:08:46 yes uh wit who do you have for uh winning the so you you're rooting for the Leafs yes but what's your prediction i can't uh i can't like pick against tampa i don't know like their team is just so stacked like last year you saw they were like just heads and shoulders above anyone else and people kind of say like oh they don't have kutra of all year i'm like yeah that's great they're gonna get them back right for the playoffs it's like perfect he'll he'll be skating with them like before the playoffs he'll be ready to go and then you just throw that guy in with the team they already have so with how easily they kind of got it done last year and especially especially after they went through like they were they were virginia hoops dude they will they lost in the first round
Starting point is 01:09:30 swept by columbas and then they won at the next year it was like so now they're over that hump where it's like all right let's get another one and they just have such a deep team and their goalie is is one of the tops in the league so i like tampa i'm hoping for toronto and i think vegas and colorado are just going to end up battling it out in the west i don't know how that's going to go down i don't know who will end up coming on top when they do face each other if they do face each other but i look forward to it because the nhl right now is like healthy as it's ever been i think it's like the league's great i i think um for all the people that like bitch and wine and want fighting out of the game the part the parts of fighting that that are gone are probably the parts that should should
Starting point is 01:10:10 be gone is that was like just pre premeditated like didn't even mean anything had nothing from the game there's two heavies just going at it to kind of set the tone for a game i know like guys made a living and i respect those guys more than ever but it was like now you see fights that are happening out of like pure rage during the game that's when it's okay that's what like people really want to see in a sense of two guys are battling the corner all of a sudden they're just so pissed off it's just naturally go so hockey has that while also having more scoring and less of like the the big time brawls and what what what happened before so i think it's awesome yeah i i looked up actually jakes and us uh the reason why the maple leafs are called the leafs and not the leaves because
Starting point is 01:10:52 they're named after you guys have that what a staff you guys have you can get that jakes we would be asking that question on chicklets for three more weeks to each other i almost wish i didn't know the answer because it's kind of boring it's just like they're named after a maple leaf right they're not named after a bunch of leaves a singular they're named after a singular leaf so as a collective hole they are the maple leafs i feel like if i'd use my brain at all i maybe could have like answered that like the maple there's a it's a maple leaf but in your defense you you were just doing an interview you probably played 36 holes today like you you're a busy guy today i took the day off was bummed out too beautiful oh shit all right so my last question is what are you actually shooting
Starting point is 01:11:35 right now like what are you shooting in golf um so i just played in a tournament and uh first round i shot 71 i played great in the second round i shot second round i shot 76 and that missed the cut it was a good like mid-ammer tournament so mid-ams are uh amateur golfers who are 25 years and or older so that you get rid of the college studs you know the younger like so it's like more like the old it's like men's league for golf but people are good so it's a good field where all these kids have played in usga events and good big time golf seniors played with a couple seniors that played in the us senior open and i missed the cut so i was unfortunate but it's still i played pretty solid i played so i missed the cut by one plus seven i need to shoot plus six are you like
Starting point is 01:12:17 borderline maybe thinking about someday trying to go to like q school no not even not so you don't have the balls like kaila press oh no i just don't have the game you know like the people i actually say a lot that i think that uh pga tour golfers are better at their sport than any other professional athlete is at their sport if that makes any sense if you threw in a scratch golfer so i'm like a zero handicap if you threw me in a pga tour event i would stand out i would look way more foolish than if you put in like a good men's league basketball player in an nba game interesting i know that sounds crazy but those golfers are those pga tour golfers are like plus six handicaps they're regularly shooting 66 67 at their home course it's a different world so yeah throw me
Starting point is 01:13:11 in an nba game i'll look like shan bradley throw me on the tour i'll shoot 100 and quit who do you think uh what other sport is uh best for like athletes in another sport best for golfers after they retire and have you played with anyone who maybe like retired from their sport now play golf oh um who's awesome golfers uh like famous name hicks on what's his name hicks on the Yankees is nasty oh okay uh he's really good um who are the some of john smoltz john smoltz john smoltz played in the u.s senior open he's got a nice game i heard mj is awesome and michael jordan's apparently a very good golfer i heard he likes to gamble on the course uh who else stef curry charles barkley sucks oh totally robo stef curry is really good apparently barkley
Starting point is 01:14:00 you shot yeah apparently barkley used to be like a legitimate good golfer i don't know what happened he lost the game romeo is good romeo's played in some sick amateur events yeah probably probably events that he has no business in like playing with college kids and then finishing lasts like dude you're not that good but no to jordan you've never played with jordan no someday hopefully someday boys someday maybe that'd be a dream that'd be a dream it's a dream to come on your part again i feel like it's been fucking 10 years since biz and i sat in that no it's the old office i know that was kind you guys had biz and i on kind of just get like get the chicklets a little bit of pardon my take love and um ever since it's been we're always chasing you guys down
Starting point is 01:14:41 number one you guys got you feel you feel like you got a bullseye on your head uh yeah from bill from billy football who's sitting right next to me he called us old to erica can you believe that billy you know who fucking butters your bread you muppet buddy i i was who's your buddy he just hit you the buddy who did you buddy was that nearer that was a buddy did you buddy me he buddied me i didn't buddy it buddy to me dude i was no no no i would bro i'm not i'm getting broed and buddied by billy fucking football no i was talking to i was talking to a big kid yo that's even worse yeah you don't bud even get your buddy and your boss look i say his prises for like the whole interview and i just say one thing about me basically being
Starting point is 01:15:35 younger than these guys and they just won't drop it oh man it's interesting to see you know that i know why why lions killed are young sometimes you know and you also know like who ends up taking the two power kings down part of my take the guys from within and billy also gave big cat coronavirus and tried to kill him so like it's all adding up i'm a parasite on this operation if the host dies i die interesting uh all right well wait well hopefully we see a march madness um i'm gonna be there uh i'm gonna definitely be there because i don't know if you know i'm a chelsea football fan yes and and i'm coming when they play arsenal next in may and i'm gonna fucking stomp on zhan troops i don't know if you know but i'm the number one troops uh troll so i'll i'll tell you all my
Starting point is 01:16:20 lessons oh yeah i'm gonna need lessons from you but i'm gonna have my team whoop it on them and my team looks nice i mean like arsenals a joke of a club i'm really into football now soccer so i'm even not official i'm calling it football it's it's not you do you actually watch the games every game no you don't every single game since i started watching chelsea i've watched and i watch most premiere league games i love that they're on in the morning yeah weekend and then wednesdays and stuff like three o'clock it's i'm dude i'm all in on soccer it's crazy i find myself watching games not even chelsea games i'm wikipedia guys i love the drama i love how the managers are like these like hollywood like celebrities it's just it's just awesome they call it the beautiful game i think
Starting point is 01:17:04 yeah still go bonito no it actually is the the fact that it's on in the mornings like you just pop it on and you can it's actually the best like background noise sport there is yeah and the no commercials thing sick and it's cool to see you like wake up and just see a ball moving on grass it's very refreshing for a hangover it just it does ease you into your saturday yeah yeah yep i love it all right well wait thank you you're the best man people all right guys great great catching up with you guys i'll uh i'll i'll see you soon hopefully all right see you later see you boys ryan whitney was brought to you by our great friends over at three chi three chi is the industry leader in delta eight thc products all the products are formulated by a biochemist they're made
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Starting point is 01:18:31 off your order promo code pardon at checkout five percent off your order with three chi okay let's do some segments and send everyone on their way just a reminder go subscribe to macro dosing with pft and arian foster will have arian foster on the show on wednesday uh let's go there's hanks been coughing a lot recently hank sorry i got the antibodies no big deal so does billy i don't i'm i'm exposed billy and i are just fucking we basically we we're so badass we created our own vaccine that's only it's just really good for six months or so yeah all right let's go we got talking tennis uh my goat no joke wait what's his name novak jokovic you would have gotten there i was gonna say i was gonna say dovak novak jovak jovak smoker bitch oh i definitely thought his
Starting point is 01:19:29 name was dovak all right novak jokovic i am the number one dovak nokovic fan out there he wins his 18th uh championship right 18th title 18th major major what do you call him in tennis i don't know help us out here grand slam he's the fucking goat suck on this dick jake what what you don't think why me you don't think he's a goat well because you're a federer guy i know you i can smell you from a mile away you've been a you have the rf hat that you wear when you're fucking playing tennis both a rattan yeah i know rattan are you wait you're you're not a raffa guy i like raffa too a fellow lefty i thought you were a raffa guy i like i'm a raffa guy almost raffa you can't no that's that's bullshit yes you cannot like both raffa and feather you have to hate one of
Starting point is 01:20:22 them pick one pick who's your goat that's so soft if you like fed all right fed your goat so suck on this dick all right i mean what what does jokovic have to do just keep winning all the fucking tournaments he's one raffa has he won and roger have 20 okay so he's not there jokovic is 18 oh he's only 18 no um he is 33 okay so we're gonna get there roger 39 raffa he got booed 34 however i didn't see that it was 3 30 in the morning i was not up unfortunate i was who do that got booed i told me i got booed i think that's but also vaccination yeah he probably he probably reintroduced covid to the raffa and roger is high but at rolling garros french open raffa literally wins every time well guess what in australian something only a goat could do at sydney dovac wins every single time
Starting point is 01:21:14 raffa is one seven in a row right this island raffa has beat feather at wimbledon has he not uh they'll beat each other dovac has beaten feather at wimbledon as of recent match yeah that's what got me into tennis has dovac beat raffa at the french no one beats raffa exactly but that's like a goat specialist it's different than everything else competition close also the actual fifth grand slam is coming up miami what is that wait no no you can't do that no it's the biggest non grand slam on your home court yeah they do it it's really cool to do it at hard rock stadium well you haven't even said what's the name of the tournament of course they do miami open you see miami open is the fifth grand slam yeah i doubt that i highly doubt that google it i'm gonna
Starting point is 01:21:54 google the fifth grand slam tennis see they're gonna say that are indian wells which is right before it the fifth grand slam tennis is oh conveniently when when dovac did win a french open uh indian wells raffa heard his what a wist bullshit but if he's healthy for rolling garros he will win it dovac no raffa i i do respect dovac just i i'm fascinated by anybody that can become like a how many millions of dollars has he won probably like including endorsements you have to think he's probably made like a hundred million dollars he's not endorsed like raffa or raffa he's a bad boy yeah so he's got yeah he can't he can't have like the watch company he's got my pillar does yeah he's got my pillow that's basically you can't get like rolex behind you if you're an anti-vaxxer but
Starting point is 01:22:48 i respect somebody who's that rich but that committed to uh just posting all their worst ideas all the time yes like all you have to do if you're novac is just like not post your ideas but he's so addicted to the online lifestyle and getting those bad all that bad boy street cred these like you know what i don't give a shit if i can't get sponsored by like h and r block i'm gonna fucking get these these autism takes off my chest i i agree that there are certain athletes that it's like um you know like all this shut up and dribble i want athletes to say whatever they want and i want really dumb athletes like joker bitch i want them to be louder yeah yes uh johnny daemon who we were talking about earlier i want them to be as loud as possible because it's funnier
Starting point is 01:23:30 yes exactly uh all right so those talking to us uh i'll sock on hanks girl hank i'll shock it well you know what i mean like whoa he's a fan hank yeah sure okay hell yeah nice did darin tweet anything about uh no vac being a bottom tier human being now he posted a way too long instagram story of his kid's birthday party did you say his name oh shit well since you said his name i just wanted to have to brand myself i want to disagree with one thing he was like if the only reason you're getting into bitcoin or top shot is a top shot top shot is that the those are the uh you told us in the group not to talk about it i know but top shot this is this this is a different ways that might go off idea but it's like no it's like the hologram there was
Starting point is 01:24:14 a point made that yet the top shot the bitcoin trading cards if the only reason you're getting into it is a fear of missing out that's the wrong reason no no no that's exactly the only reason to get in the only reason to get into all of these things is that you don't want to someday be pumping the gas for a fucking bitcoin billionaires boat yep i don't want to be a sucker all right i don't i i will freely admit i do not understand what this top shot is i don't think i ever will get it but i do know that i'm going to pretend like i understand i just know that it's uh so advanced thinking that if i don't get it i need to get behind the people that do get it if fear of missing out isn't your main motivator to do pretty much anything in life you're not living
Starting point is 01:24:56 a correct life it's therapeutic watching other people open packs of cards i don't get that i still i don't understand that it's an asmr thing the sound is it the sound that you like or is it like i wonder what they're gonna take out and just like also i there's something hilarious i've watched a bunch of different people do it there's something just oddly therapeutic about someone being like all right and we have you know uh okay marvin jones and then we have a quint nelson and ooh and then and then they stop it like a random car we're like ooh a marie cooper okay that one's a keeper it's like what what are we talking about why we're who's deciding this i like the moment Henry rugs and and just going through it the only part i like is the moment where they realize
Starting point is 01:25:41 what they have before you see what they have yeah like this is that moment prism that's a cool moment but i don't i don't get the whole like watch you don't watch another man open up packs of of his own baseball cards yeah like what do you get out of that i would actually like to our good friend tony cheffler is actually a big card guy we should probably get him back on to have him explain to us he actually has like so he he does it the way that i i can understand because it's got a mix of gambling in it where he has like he was saying like oh i have a bunch of tom brady rookie cards i i want him to win a super bowl here because then it's another like 5000 yeah card what we should do our own of those highlight things the top shots we should make part of my take top shots yes and
Starting point is 01:26:24 mine them i still don't understand what it is or how it works but i just know that like if they're doing it for zion what we should do it too correct maybe maybe me not farting would be worth a hundred thousand dollars one day or are you farting two hundred thousand didn't fart uh right did you see the other video still is it still is it still happening between you two did you see the other video apparently the exact same fart sound effect turned up on a different bar stool video that got put out like a year ago so i mean i have not heard that at all you literally just made that up no i didn't make what other video this is still happening yeah i haven't like did you see the other video that the answer is how would that have not come across my desk still have tension okay that was
Starting point is 01:27:08 and for that was a resounding yes i thought you're talking about the other angles and when everyone was clearly like oh it's definitely pft his ass was closer to the microphone i wish i wish i had farted i really do all right well uh maybe wednesday you guys will have cleared this up something better than a little fart tension i'm going to fart on hang do it i'll fart in chair before the next podcast okay uh all right you have a monday reading for us i do this is a great monday reading monday readings are back um this was on cnn health the headline is the new slang teen the new slang teens used to insult boys who are too nice to girls if you're guessing that this is about simping and the simping epidemic that's going on across america you
Starting point is 01:27:51 are a hundred percent correct shannon was used to her socially awkward son being bullied by other boys at the private school he attends in atlanta but when she picked him up from school in mid january and her eighth grader told her he was being called a simp shannon who's only using her first name to protect her son's identity yeah great piece of parenting you wrote an entire essay like about your son being called a simp wait didn't she just give us the the location yeah lana shannon and lana suburb eighth grader socially awkward eighth grade eighth grade son at a private school no one's gonna figure this never never that we probably have a shitload of eighth graders listening to this show right now yeah we probably outed if your mom's name is shannon and you live
Starting point is 01:28:31 in atlanta like walkhead be like be like mom you straight up you outed me as a simp he's telling me this hope this simp isn't an awl that would be a bad look for us it would disavow he's telling me this and i'm driving and i'm trying to make sense of it she said i'd never heard the word he told me it basically just means that i'm being too nice to girls because i like them she said i was like wait my kid is being picked on for being nice to girls no i could understand maybe why a parent would get confused by that but yeah at the end at the end of the day that's essentially what it is like i'll put it this way joseph in the bible was world class simp yeah they don't name any buildings after joe that you don't have joseph
Starting point is 01:29:15 doesn't get shit people forget about joseph he was basically there to to hold mary's hand at birth and then what did you get a book yeah he did he got it is he the same as the technicolor dream coca yes joseph and the technicolor dream so he did get a sick coat he got a coat you got a fucking coat yeah okay but yeah like simping it's not a new phenomenon is what i'm getting at her son had told her recently he's he's recently been put in the friend zone by one of the girls oh my wait wait if you're telling if you're if you're complaining to your mom that you're in the friend zone that's like you're now actively simping your mom yeah you where's the dad here hmm let's see let's see we can get to it because this is here's a quick here's a quick way if you're
Starting point is 01:30:00 a parent mom if you're listening shannon which i assume you are an awl as well when your son brings us up you should just simply ask well is she gonna fuck you and if he says no then yeah he's a simp not gonna fuck you dude yep that's that's how it works so you do all these things as a parent to raise your kid right to be nice to everyone especially kids without many friends shannon said and you never think that by making your kid the nice one you could be making them a target for bullies well yeah if you make your kid super nice man this is this is actually now bumming me out because as he definitely doesn't have brothers as a father this is gonna be my nightmare because like you do like raising your kid to be a good person is hard enough and then they get bullied
Starting point is 01:30:45 for being a simp this could also be a product of being raised by a mom whose first instinct when her son is being showing simp like tendencies at school is to write a letter to cnnhealth.com about her son yes yes uh so what is this kid definitely simps his mom yes what is a simp while many parents might be unfamiliar with the word simp chances are your tween or teen has used or at least heard the term simp hashtags are rampant on tiktok instagram has over 350 000 post tagged hashtag simp and there are facebook groups devoted to simps and simping it can be a verb too i need to get into one of these facebook groups that's simp and ain't easy but it's necessary urban dictionary's top definition of a simp is someone who does way too much for a person they
Starting point is 01:31:33 like other definitions include a man who puts the hose before the bros and a guy that is overly desperate for women especially if she is a bad person wait say that first definition again uh hose before bro no no the first definition someone who does way too much for a person they like what's the opposite of that i think the opposite of really football that is just a boy is a fuckboy fuckboy are just like you're a fuckboy you do nothing for us and you don't really like us i simp for you guys sometimes when was the last time you simped for me billy i would actually you know what put that on your to-do list simp simp for me and pft once a week straight up i want you to straight up simp us okay i simp so hard practice practice it you know i feel like you
Starting point is 01:32:20 haven't simped for us in in ages i've been busy okay so make some time to simp for us we're growing i want one on friday every friday show i want one like actual tangible uh evidence of you simping for us i think you look no billy don't you know you can't do this you can't do it like that you know what you should be natural that hat looks amazing thank you pft billy you on our anniversary on our podcast anniversary on february 29th 29th you should simp us you should simp us every year on our anniversary okay yeah keep things spicy simp is a slang person for a man who is desperate for attention and affection of someone else typically a woman think the energy of a puppy dog eyes but manifested in romantic human form it's used in an insulting manner though typically playful
Starting point is 01:33:10 they're definitely undertones of toxic toxic masculinity oh yeah since it's related to showing too much emotion florida mother karen mclung first encountered the word in group chats she closely monitors with her 11 year old daughter and 12 year old son i saw the word and quickly looked it up said mclung who lives in tampa i asked my kids what they thought it meant and my son said it's basically if you had a thousand dollars and you could do anything with it you'd use it to get the attention of a girl then everyone would make fun of you that's pretty good that's that's a good answer you've got a really smart kid here that kid yeah explains to us like we're a seventh grader that that's it and then mclung blocked the thread while she said her son wasn't being called a simp
Starting point is 01:33:49 in the thread mclung said she's curious to see how it impacts my son because he's very chivalrous by nature oh this is this is uh buster bluth yes this is the mother boy yeah the mother boy yeah absolutely girls in high school sometimes throughout the term to their high school girlfriend some kids i've talked to have said it's not a derogatory term it's sort of like teasing someone like you've left us to go hang out with your friends you're simping us um i actually don't think it's that bad i simp so hard for chipotle yeah you do you do you look really so hard for then you do for us the moral of the story that never show anything that you like any sort of respect yeah or admiration teach us get a little thing about irony yeah okay you guys simp sports we
Starting point is 01:34:36 all simp sports correct fellas is it gay to tell a girl you like her that's basically that's what this whole article should be called jake simps federer fucking clown suck this dick you you do simp federer hard so simp is now just becoming fan who do you simp the most in the uh in the broadcasting world siciliano anybody wants to syracuse no no give us the number one simp bob costas kevin harland he's out there i can't pick one give us the number one simp can't pick one come on everyone who's donated to our nice student radio station giving us opportunities throughout the years jesus christ you simp okay so now there's kind of a spin zone to simping one way to think of a simp said shan davis a marriage and family therapist in sacramento california
Starting point is 01:35:23 is simply someone who is ahead of their time though it hurts in the moment in the big picture a boy who is called a simp can wear it as a badge of honor wait read that guy's title again uh a marriage and family therapist and that guy gets paid way too much money yes for doing nothing for basically being like here's an acronym to remind you simply ahead of their time so actually that guy is running an awesome scam he's literally telling kids like if you get called a simp that's actually really cool yeah that's a cool simply fantastic yeah and that he's gonna get a lot of kids a lot more beat up with that advice today's boys are being raised in the middle of the biggest redefinition of male gender roles in recent history should i be kind and sensitive or distant and aloof
Starting point is 01:36:08 when trying to win a part or absolutely distant aloof never set tell anyone what you're really feeling never text back mm-hmm heaven and heaven forbid you do cunnilingus go to your biggest go to your fucking death bed without ever telling anyone what makes you happy that's how you live that's how you get the most out of life that's that's how you live a fucking life yeah you want to make sure when you are gasping for your last breath before you say i can't believe we didn't have march madison 2020 you are telling everyone everyone's like someone brings you something like your your wife of 70 years brings you a cookie and you're like i never even like these this is send it back this guy this guy is great so he has um he's got a tactic that he uses to
Starting point is 01:36:56 i guess he does simp conversion therapy oh this guy like i said it's biggest scam artist ever i could tell by the title it's it's called the humor tool so he invented jokes okay yeah it's comic relief you practice not putting down the other person you put down the situation if someone is being called out for always simping the girls he could turn it around and say it's tough being the lone soldier simp nice guy who wants to join me you can turn it and make it into comedy what great wasn't funny it's not funny all you have to say is simp and ain't easy simp and ain't easy now give me that guy's fucking paycheck that's it seriously mm-hmm that's it like that is all you have to say shannon said that her son's therapist advised similar tactics but the boy said he only
Starting point is 01:37:37 comes up with the perfect retort three hours later i mean the kid this kid is a simp i think parents simp their kids yeah this is way too good point really simp the right point where do they learn it yeah look at you shannon cares way too much about her son's uh-huh you you actually hug him and say you love him i bet she lets him like feed from her breast shannon's son definitely doesn't play football billy's prescription if billy was a doctor it would just be like meet violence meet like contact sport go outside feel some pain and then eat the flesh of something to get to absorb its power i love that like we have sarcasm we're being pretty like pretty you know obviously this is a ridiculous article and and and you know dripping with sarcasm and billy is like actually
Starting point is 01:38:24 this kid needs to just get his fucking teeth one time and he'll learn uh it's been really heartbreaking because i know a lot of these boys bullying him he's been at the school since second grade she just continues to give details about him this makes me sad if their moms knew they'd be horrified but my son doesn't want me to tell them because it will just get worse as a father this hurts this hurts me yeah i will fight i will fight they're probably not even teasing and they're just trying to get him to stop simping because they know he'll get hurt and they can't show him too much love to try to get him to stop them because then they become the sense okay so here's the is at the end of their article all right so here's here's a solution shannon get him a prostitute
Starting point is 01:39:04 what i'm being serious when everyone's like hey dude you keep simping all these chicks he'd be like you know what else i've done fucked and then eighth grade that's game over that is the end of the argument game over seriously i'm obviously don't because you know it's a minor and all legalese we're not trying to do crystal dealia or whatever the fuck that was a wild apology get him a wayfair cabinet get him away no no i didn't pick up on that right away no but uh yeah uh no you know what you should actually do so don't do the prostitute that's illegal wrong all those things uh send him to summer camp somewhere far away so he can make up a story about how he fucked that's a good idea that's it right there i would also say
Starting point is 01:39:49 get him either like a guitar or some sort of painting kit because any child that's going through like emotional turmoil is probably going to end up being a good artist yeah after it's all said and done or ps5 yeah ps5 it makes sure he gets the first ps5 get him a yeah just get him a warzone login tell him to get on the sticks with us we'll take we'll straighten them out real fast god damn it that that actually bummed me out that article like thinking about parenting through tiktok and all this shit i'm fucked yeah what are you gonna do about that are you gonna blow out certain hashtags i'm i don't know i don't know if your son i'd probably be dead by candy stones whatever i will i will tell you if your son starts to show early signs of simping yeah damn it man
Starting point is 01:40:31 this is this is gonna be tough this is gonna be tough as a father this is gonna be tough i'm now scared what i am dude this is reading that it's gonna be way worse in 15 years like the world's not gonna be better you think we're trending up uh uh yeah we are no we are no no no no no no we're trending i would i would be shocked if no our society around in 20 years our society is trending into the toilet so in 12 years when my son has to go through like middle school and high school it is going to be a land but in 20 years that kid that bullied cam newton that's going to be like the nicest kid in america yeah no but i'm just thinking you know the kids who were born after the internet who grew up with the internet who are used to the internet they i don't think that's
Starting point is 01:41:16 us right not uh not not me not big cat yeah well i even like you know i remember like no you don't yeah i do you remember life without the internet without iphones that's different that's a phone right but the kids growing up with that they're gonna adapt when did you get your first phone um i got a nokia in third or fourth grade but i took this subway i took this subway i got my first one was 18 no i had a nokia just could make calls is because i took the subway did you have snake on it when did you when you have social media when did you get a facebook uh 13 right you have the you had the internet but i understand what you're saying but like that one is a lot more prevalent and and pervasive but i i was born at the perfect time because i just like you know little kids who
Starting point is 01:42:04 just watch ipad you just said you had a fucking phone at third in third grade where's you born in like september of 2001 no like literally i was born january 13 1999 oh okay so no but like i i did stupid shit like to entertain myself when i was little yeah we know i know i know but like i wasn't one of these things all right but bill what you're saying right now is like you were you were born into the internet you're now changing to be like i was not ever like iphones came out and it became super portable but then like 20 years from now people are gonna be like oh i wasn't even born into the internet because like i didn't get my first brain implant ship right until i was i'm just saying that my generation still like knows how to entertain themselves without technology
Starting point is 01:42:50 that's not true that is 100 you you you you scroll your phone all the time yeah because that'd be like me saying that i i'm on my phone all the time too no but i can entertain myself without my phone how jacking off lift like what yeah no i mean you do i like card games you lift you know how to lift well that's entertaining how many but think about it think about it for a second uh-huh in a given week uh-huh when you are not don't do sleeping obviously don't do driving everything else how many times are you using some type of electronics whether it be playing video games on your phone like it's the majority of the time there's listening to music now yeah all the time 90% of the day it's not a bad thing but it is what we're saying is the our society you know what i've
Starting point is 01:43:41 been doing recently i've been not using the gps because i heard that your brain atrophies from gps is all right because your navigational really you need to come on macro dosing you i can't yeah i'm gonna give you a nice comment right here you give us some type of line that always just tells me all right time for the show to be over like it's it you are a genius you gotta exercise the parts of your brain get atrophies from your phone your hundreds as their instincts are getting destroyed by your phone wait hey 17 is on the thing 13 18 18 13 36 fully sticks are made out of beef pizzle which is really beef penis subscribe to macro dosing love you guys shout out to weyland patagon for this uh on instagram waylon two ends uh patagon for this take on me remix
Starting point is 01:44:46 do well they tried to janko's they brought no luck so we wore big pants to the vagus club jumpsuit on shades on his eyes and now he wants to know if he's a cowboy head guy looking like any cheesy drug dealer is that pft or is that rip wheeler it's a cowboy head guy probably no he's gonna still try his ies enough you're not a drug guy

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