Pardon My Take - Ryan Whitney, Someone Peed At The Masters, Luka’s Return + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: April 11, 2025

Someone has peed at the Masters and the whole tournament is in trouble. We talk Day 1 at Augusta and upside down hats (00:00:00-00:10:53). Luka returns to Dallas and Deshaun Watson says his haters are going to motivate him (00:10:53-00:25:24). Ryan Whitney joins us in studio to talk hockey, golf, going back to school and tons more (00:25:24-01:35:47). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (01:35:47-01:54:18).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Yeah. And then he peed, he peed under the bridge in hole 13. And I for one am disgusted. Rays Creek. Now, I think the problem, I think people have a problem with this because he admitted it. Yeah. My guess is that this is like swimmers peeing in the pool. I think everybody pees in Ray's Creek. We just don't talk about peeing in Ray's Creek. So I don't know if he admitted it because everyone saw it. He got a round of applause when he finished. Yeah. So he said it was his biggest round of applause all day. Mm-hmm. But I just love that this is the prevailing story from the first round of the Masters,

this young whippersnapper amateur just causing havoc because he was golfing in Scotty Scheffler's group, peeing in rivers, wearing upside down hat, which I actually think the peeing I have zero problem with obviously I Kind of do I kind of agree with people who are like the upside down hat at Augusta's bullshit It's beneath the gus. Oh, yeah in his defense. He was probably hammered Yeah If you're if you're an Arizona State golfer and you play at them I assume that you're just taking full advantage of the car girl just like bring it keep the rounds coming. Yeah, let's go I I love it

If you're a guy that maybe might not get back to Augusta, then I say go ahead and pee in there. Just be yourself. Be yourself. Pee yourself. The one thing is you probably shouldn't say P that's probably one of those words that Augusta won't let you say. They probably are like the golfer eliminated. Yeah, to raise Cree mix rate. Yeah, mix rate is a Latin word for it. I'm pretty sure after that hole, the the next tbox like the route to the next t-box is completely Isolated and in the woods and there's also

Potty's right next to every t-box. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. No, he said that well, he said he looked he realized that Afterwards like oh, yeah, there there are porta potty. Yeah, but here's the thing Most people just play golf so that they can pee outside. Yeah. It's just a good excuse to take a leak on a tree. Peeing into a river is awesome. Yeah. That's a fun thing to do. But the hat, do you agree with me? The hat? I think it's too much. So I have to defend the hat because I think that's been to new cheese company. So I'm compromised on that. Let's say it's not, let's say it's not, let's say it's a quarterback. Copycat. Yeah. Copycat. Yeah, you know, he invented writing letters upside down Yeah, but if it wasn't his company, I would say

I'm shocked that Augusta didn't confiscate it. Yeah, I just This is this might be where I feel like an old man, but I saw the hat and I was like, this is disgusting Yeah, you can't do this to Augusta. I think that's worse than wearing a hat backwards. Yeah, I agree. What do you say Max? 47 would never. 47 would never. We spell our words right side up. Yeah. All right. So first round, Scotty still really good at golf. Yep. Justin Rose in first, seven under. Someone was, I think Trent, so Trent is here, our good friend from foreplay. He was saying that like, statistically speaking, you basically have to be top six after the first round. Like anyone past that is not eliminated, but almost. So right now that would include Bryson Ludwig. You'll be in there. Rory would be in that

group as well. Roy played really well. Max was up and down today. I think he started off, I think he was two under through four holes. I think I'll, we'll take credit for that, for the podcast bump. And if, if we want to have any blame passed around, we probably should have called him at the turn. Yep. We should have called him at the turn. We should have talked to him then. Uh, he had one bad hole. Uh, but I think, I think SVP's booth is set up on the second nine. Yeah. And so he got into the SVP zone and was like, Oh, I wish I was talking to PMT guys. Yeah, that's a fact. I, uh, I just want max make the cut. Let's focus on making the cut. Yep.

Let's find a way to make the cut. Let's have a weekend house. That's possible. For it's right there. It's right there. Uh, Hank, how are your, how are your, uh, uh, bets doing? Cause you're a live head. Yeah, I'm heavy on live. I need, I need Ted live guys, basically everyone except for Bubba and What is his name? See one of the four aces is really good, but yeah, I need ten live guys 20 and right now I have four Neiman Garcia Brooks. They're kind of lingering so they have a shot I'm in an okay spot. Okay, which Brooks out right now now Brooks is 38. Okay, what's his what's his score?

But he's what's the one age he's plus one if he was minus one he'd be a little crazy 30 yeah, I suppose. Yeah, but I mean that the scores are so closely grouped together plus one. Okay plus one Do you see Freddy couples Eagle that was yeah I feel like Freddy couples has one of these rounds every Masters where it's like, oh shit Yeah, Freddie couple still a pleasure to watch him swing. Did he play with a neon ball? Of course. I love it Yeah, the the swing is just it's the best. I don't care I want Freddie out there every single year just with that sweet sweet swing this starters They obviously started like the ceremonial start those Those guys just hit one shot. Yeah.

Okay. I would want to play my shot. It would be. Yeah. I would absolutely want to play. If you always think about that, I would probably take a provisional if I missed it. If you pipe one down the middle, can you just finish out the hole? I'd finish out the round.

Yeah. I feel like I think I'm locked in today. Like I might win this thing. Yeah. Because there is no age limit. Obviously it's a courtesy thing that you don't want to play if you physically can't get through it but imagine if that was just how every single master started where it's like if you pipe that first drive it's like all right I'm actually playing it's still your box I'm in there I'm in there any

other anything else of note Patrick Reed also won under oh he's one of your guys heck yep I like it I like it when Patrick Reed wins the Masters because it makes everybody so mad. It's a very specific thing. I know, but everybody like, you know, Patrick Reed has a lot of haters. He's only won once, right? Yeah. Yeah. He's got a lot of haters.

You could call them haters or you could call them, I guess, plaintiffs in some circumstances. Teammates? Yeah, teammates. But I like how angry he makes golf people Yes, so I don't like him, but I do enjoy watching the chaos when he does well. I'd agree with that I I'm just happy that it seems like we got some big names to start and some weather When's weather coming tomorrow? What time? Look it up. Look it up Hank figure out the weather. How's uh, how's Wu Tang Clan doing?

I saw you had an woman shot from behind a tree right onto the green. Oh, he's he's one under two. I max got the weather faster than Hank. significantly faster weather looks perfect. That does look good. Hank probably is our winds. Okay, that's fine. Hank probably uses a specific golf app for the weather that has like the weather inside. Yeah over the night overnight It's gonna rain which is good soft green. So Hank when you said the weather that might have been an earlier-in-the-week forecast Mmm, it feels like you're not locked into the Masters. I'm locked into our Masters. Okay mini golf. Okay, that's that's fine

But maybe get earlier in the week. It said there was going to be, you know, storms on Friday, but that's not the case. Let's get you locked in. I know tomorrow. Tomorrow I'm all in all in all in all the covers six, six TVs all in my ass. Six TVs. I'll be in the cave. Just mastered up. I love that. I love that for you. Uh, okay. I had a couple other things to talk about before we get to Whitney, which was a great interview. By the way, you can see right in front of me right now, it is the Dunk It Bucket.

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and tune into the KFC Dunk It Challenge on April 16th. We have four legit dunkers. I love it. Like actual they're going to be doing crazy, crazy dunks. I love it. And I mean, there's nothing better than then KFC. And there's nothing better than a bucket bucket. So go check it out now. Okay. Other things. Luca, yes. Dallas tribute video cried, cried has has tribute video culture gone too far big cat. Do you think he did not deserve a tribute? Well, that's Cried. Cried. Has tribute video culture gone too far, big cat? Do you think he did not deserve a tribute video?

Well that's the thing, it's like who deserves a tribute video? Yeah. Like when did the tribute video, he doesn't- No, I'm asking if he did. No, I'm saying in the modern era when we're talking about tribute videos, of course Luca does deserve a tribute video. I just don't know when the whole tribute video thing started, when that became a thing. I think this was, yeah, I mean mean I don't think it happens that often. There's a lot of discourse about

the tribute video though. Okay. So tell me. Well I remember was it Isaiah Thomas Jr. That one that one was was probably I think he's still waiting for his tribute video. Yeah I think a lot of the tribute video. Yeah I think there's not a I think if you win a championship or you're the face of the franchise tribute video. Okay. So here, here are my two thoughts about the actual tribute video. One, it was really well done. Luca got emotional. He cried. I'm surprised that he played as well as he did after getting so emotional, uh, in the pregame because it feels like that was, that was a heavy moment for him. So credit to him for playing well. And then second, the video editor the whole time they were making

the tribute video had to just be like, why the fuck did we trade this guy? Right? Like what? Look at all these awesome highlights. I'm cutting together. He's young as shit. Why am I making this video? He should have had Nico should have made the tribute video. Yeah. In fact, any GM, here's what you should, if you ever think that maybe you should trade a great player what you should be forced to do is sit down and make a tribute video for him and then after you're done making the video then you think about it and decide if you still want to trade him after you made the video yeah I agree don't ever go to the grocery store hungry that's exactly the same I do go to the grocery store hungry all the time I just eat while I'm grocery shopping and

you buy a shitload of cookies and everything. Yes, it's the best. Yeah. He had 45, uh, eight and six absolutely dominated the Mavs. I was happy for Luca, uh, because that was probably very cathartic for him. I was happy for the fans because they got to watch Luca beat the team. They now hate because of what Nico Harrison did and I also was made aware that Nico Harrison has not sat in his real seats Since the trade you fucking coward go back and sit your seat Is he doing the thing where he's he's trying to get sympathy because he's like it's not safe for me to sit in my seat I don't know what he's doing, but better fucking sit in those seats, buddy

Yeah, I saw that they were handing out clown noses Nico clown noses to the fans to wear before the game I was actually shocked they did the tribute video because it's like it from everything I've seen and read They're trying to suppress the fans. There was a guy who had a like fire Nico that got taken off the jumbotron There was a woman who was sitting a front row who they didn't kick her out, but they thought about kicking her out I was shocked they played that because it basically was an entire who was sitting a front row who they didn't kick her out, but they thought about kicking her out. I was shocked they played that because it basically was an entire like indictment on Nico Harrison as a human being. Get back in the seats, buddy. Yeah. The Mavs fans, Mavs fans don't do anything physical, but you deserve, the Mavs fans deserve somebody to yell at. I agree. I use a coward for not saying it. You can't, you can't make that trade and then be like, oh I don't sit my seats anymore.

Yeah, especially he should have been forced to watch the tribute video. Yep. Look what you did. Look what you took away from these people. That's a completely fair thing to do. If you're gonna make a trade like that, you have to be able to face the music afterwards. Yeah, and then I thought JJ had some pretty cool things to say afterwards. Like he seems like he'd be a good guy to play for. Oh. JJ Reddick. Oh, TJ. What? Peace. Is he going to get traded? I don't know. There's some there's some discussion about it. It was funny because our colleague and friend Jersey Jerry, he's on vacation

right now. But I just saw a tweet from him. Oh my god, not like this or something like that. And I mean, it was like TJ watt something bad happened. But yeah, he posted a cryptic Instagram post that just had the peace sign So, I don't know what's helpful, please. No was he was what he wrote. I immediately knew it was TJ watt related Jerry posted the please. No, TJ watt did not post a picture of the peace sign What a piece? Wait, what did he? Yeah. That was what did it. TJ watt posted an Instagram story of him like going peace. Maybe he's cryptic. It wasn't, there wasn't any words or anything.

And then Jerry said, please know he might be out on like a little drug trip with Aaron Rogers and just feeling the peace of the vibe of the universe. Click the Jerry tweet. That is, that is what TJ watt posted on Instagram story. Click that. Okay. That's TJ Watts Instagram story. So that's what's starting. Now people are freaking out all the rumors and everyone freaking out that he might be gone. Yeah. That's fair. Freak out. Fair freak. I'd be freaking out too. We also had a, you know, since we're on the AFC North,

Deshaun Watson said that he's going to prove all his doubters wrong. He believes that he's going to prove them all wrong and he believes in himself. I would like to be front of the line. Doubter. He said he's going to use you as comeback fuel. Great. That's right here, Deshaun.

You're not going to do shit. He shouldn't be allowed to call it that. Yeah, he should not be allowed to call it that. Yeah he should not be allowed to call it that. Doubter I want first in line. If you want to make a list put me at the top. Doubter you stink dude and you're a bad guy. But he's also the guy that made room for all the doubters. I don't think he has any doubters that are wildly inaccurate with doubting him.

Five years ago I was not a doubter. Yeah it's a completely reasonable thing to doubt to Sean wants yeah but I just want it on the record because if he's looking for him I want it everyone anyone else get in line would anyone else like to be yeah proclaim themselves a doubter yeah I might out her I'm a doubter okay max doubter yep memes oh no memes doubter are you sure doubter cuz you like what if he was on the Jets? No doubt her, doubt her. Memes speaking of the Jets, did you see Justin Fields quote?

No what'd he say? He said, I don't, someone asked him about the possibility that Jets drafting a quarterback this year and he said, I don't really like to answer rhetorical questions. I'm willing to teach, but I'm really like to answer rhetorical questions. I'm willing to teach, but I'm not really interested in rhetorical questions. That's not a rhetorical question. That's a hypothetical hypothetical question. Yeah, big difference. Big difference. They, they might draft a quarterback. Yeah. Steelers might too. So that'd be

you think that's why Aaron Rodgers is taking his time? Absolutely. Because he wants to wait for the draft and be like, I don't want to I don't want to put myself in a Kurt Cousins situation. I was on Pittsburgh radio with our good friends W Dve this morning and we were talking about it and it made me realize that like they are Essentially being held hostage by Aaron Rodgers. He's not even a stealer. Yeah, this is what he does essentially being held hostage by Aaron Rodgers. He's not even a Steeler. This is what he does.

Yeah. He's not even a Steeler and everyone in Pittsburgh just waiting like, is it, is it not, is it? At some point during the six hour meeting that Aaron Rodgers had with the Steelers brass, he definitely asked like, are you guys planning on drafting quarterback, right? If you're six hours, I assume the topic came up once.

Yeah, he doesn't, he probably is like, I gotta wait and see, but also he's so old. Like what is is it? How many more years exactly? Teach someone. But we don't deal in rhetorical. How old is he? 4041. That's all this fuck. It's too old, right, Hank? Yeah. 40 is washed. Really old. Whoa, washed. Aaron Rodgers is 41 years old. So yeah, I think that's I think that would be fair for the Steelers to even if they signed Aaron Rodgers to be like, hey, we're also going to draft Shadr or Sanders, right? Or we're going to draft somebody else. Right. It's a whole thing. I know we talked about it on Wednesday Yoko just came out and basically said exactly what we thought like he was like, yeah, I'm okay with it I wasn't discussed they didn't discuss it with me before but it is what it is Well, then Wendy had a report earlier today. Did you hear that?

No, so Wendy's report was kind of what we said about the the Memphis Grizzlies situation Which is they didn't like their coach They wanted to fire him after the season and what they didn't want is for him Go on a run get hot in the playoffs and then they can't fire him after I think I think that's very different from the grid situation Because Malone won an NBA title He won you your first championship if he then comes back and wins a second NBA championship in Three years and your team's never won one before, that is a good thing.

No matter what concerns you have about his coaching style or whether it's built for long-term success, if he wins two in three years, you cannot fire. Right. It goes to the whole nuggets ownership too. When you have the best player in basketball in his prime you should be willing to go over the luxury tax and Spend a lot of money to try to get more championships. Yeah, not just have one and be like that was good Well, there was one clip where I this is from like two weeks ago three weeks ago

Where Michael Malone was talking about his players and he said something along the lines of yeah You know we have to go back and and we'll look at the film We'll have to show the players the film because they don't watch film, but it will show it to him He like went out of his way that seemed like there's something wrong Yeah, there's something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about but I don't know. I mean won you guys a championship? I feel like don't fire before the playoffs. Yeah, I I mean he won you guys a championship. I feel like don't fire him before the playoffs. Yeah, I Also think yokich deserves more credit. I saw this story from Tom Haberstra. He

Wrote a whole story about how basically like yokich It's insane how little help he's had and it would be totally reasonable for him to ask for a trade because it happens all the time But yokich has never he's been just a good soldier do you know that tell me how many MVPs or sorry how many all-star all-stars Yoko just played for on the nug played with on the nuggets not guys who got an all-star and then came to the nuggets but that guy who was on an all-star team while being on the nuggets with the okay Jamal Murray nope never made one Okay. I don't think Michael Porter. Nope. I don't think he's played with any that the answer is zero. Pretty crazy. That is Yeah, that's why it's pretty pretty crazy. He's more Murray probably should have made one though. Well, he's had years where he's been hurt. Yeah. And I don't know if he's I mean

There's it's hard to make all-star games. I know if it's hard to make all-star games Let me pull up the article though, because it's zero and then there's there's even more that we're just like crazy He's never played with an all defensive Player I don't know that it's fair though to say that he has not had help. He's had help I'm just saying Jamal Murray's a good player Michael poor j jr Is a good player KCP was a very good player for him, of course But he's that he has not every single MVP since 1984 has had has played with a guy who made an all-star game Yoko, Judo, and who hasn't hmm. That's pretty crazy. Like when I saw it, I was like, holy shit This is this is not this is not normal. The answer is zero. Yeah, never played with an all-star teammate in his seven trips

The all-star he's gone seven trips to the all-star He's gone seven times. He's been on the Nuggets for ten years You have to admit like that's that is that's a crazy stat. Yes. No all NBA members. No all defense awardees ten years and if you looked at it, it was like Magic Johnson had like a million like 35 if you count all three of those like Larry Byrd at 32 like all these teammates Steph 27 zero for you. Max is highlighting Bruce Brown. Bruce Brown was telling me that he thought Bruce Brown made a ulcer game memes thought they won six man of the year. They had to have six men.

I didn't say six men the year but I don't know know if he did I don't know if I don't think I don't think I don't think it I don't think you could say one year in Denver Yeah, I don't think you could say like the nuggets in this era It's not like they have scrubs on the team then Yoke. It's just a great everybody. But yeah, that is crazy It was shocking. They have no Robin, correct. It was shocking just because have no Robin. Correct. It was shocking just because Jokic you never hear Jokic say like his coach just got fired two days ago right before the playoffs started. He's never had a true number two. You've also never heard Jokic really complain. Yeah. So that was the part that was was kind of shocking. Anything else we have?

Oh, did he get banned? I think that might have been fake news. I thought it was fake. I saw John Boyd tweeted it and it was Is he not robbed the home run? Oh, he robbed the home run. Right. That's what oh, there was a fake news going around that he got banned from all MLB stadiums this year. No, I was just talking more. He robbed the home run and then was like taking selfies of himself. Now, how are you sure that that's that Campbell on the?

Pojaro also he was wearing a shirt that said Zack Campbell on it Yeah, if I if I could if I could be in position to rob a home run, I'd rob a home run He also didn't rob it. It was over the wall. He kept this he kept his glove on the right side of the wall I don't know that guy watch it. He didn't reach over the wall. That was against the Cubs. You would be furious. Of course. But I also would know that Zach Campbell's the goat. He is. He did not. Did he go over the wall? It looks like his hand is right there on the wall. That's very, very close. That's no Jeffrey Maher, but I don't think he reached out. anything this raised guys trying to steal it from him yeah exactly thank you Max listen I I know Zach Campbell's a very controversial actually he's not controversial everyone just hates him

he's he's the best to ever do it he is the best at what he when did we stop respecting greatness see so here's an article from one of our bloggers it said Zach Campbell continues to be the worst to ever do it. You can't say that. That's a, you can't say that. You can, you can say he continues to be the worst. Yeah. But you can't say the worst to ever do it. Literally the best ever. What he does, he is the best of all time at it's not even close. Who's this blogger? It's, uh, Rico Bosco. Got it. I didn't see you max. You had to scroll down. Got it. Got it. I didn't see you max. You had to scroll down got it. Got it. Got it Alright, do we have anything else? It's about it Great interview with Whitney. I love have I

Need so badly for we'll talk you'll hear it at the end But I need so badly for this content to happen that we propose between Hank and Whitney. So Alright, let's kick it to ourselves for Ryan Whitney And then we finish with fireFest of the Week. Ryan Whitney is brought to you by our great friends over at Game Time. Baseball is back and there's nothing like getting to a baseball game, especially at the last minute. Lucky for me, I always use Game Time, the official ticketing

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order with code PMC20, get 20% off your order. That's partofmycheesesteak.com, use code PMC20, get 20% off your order. And now here's Ryan Whitney. Okay, we now welcome on our very, very, very good friend. Actually, he's number one, I think, on the leaderboard. Here's Ryan Whitney. It was obviously with your last year. I think it was also during Biz and I came on together. Yeah when your third child was born and there was like yes scheduling stuff. Yes. Yes Yes, because I remember yeah. Yeah, so but I it's Ryan Whitney and I think you're if you're not one you're two It's an honor. We've got to get you back. This won't be the last time we have you on during class We're gonna have you back on so you'll you'll get back. And hockey season only started two months ago for you guys

Well preseason. Oh, no, it's starting next week. It's It's preseason until April 9th, it started the day after the Four Nations ended. Yeah It wasn't even season for you guys all-star game. No, it's all-star game. You agree. It was an all-star. I Agreed it was one of the most amazing exhibitions. I've ever seen exhibition. I'm not calling it an All-Star game? It was an exhibition. I agreed it was one of the most amazing exhibitions I've ever seen. Exhibition. I'm not calling it an All-Star game. It was an All-Star game. It was a warm-up to the Olympics.

Yeah. But it was an exhibition. So like if you're a Canadian and you're saying, oh man, we beat you guys, like okay, in an exhibition? See, so that's what I kind of was trying to hold onto, but after my celebration of the Saturday Night Win in Montreal, I couldn't lean on that anymore. That's kind of what went too crazy. We do that all the time with USA hockey.

The worst part about Four Nations and the Olympics next year, do you guys know? No. It's no Russia. Oh. So nothing is really that legit because- Would they be that good? Best on best hockey, you need Russia involved. It's just, you know what I mean?

Would their team be that good? good their teams goalies and forwards are Probably the best Oh their D's not great, but like so you're saying double exhibition It's completely mouse because Russia was that's a valid point double exhibition Can we get one of their goalies to be a US citizen? No, that's not gonna happen I don't think Putin will go go for that one. He's reasonable, but well No, what what if it's like a Cuban, remember, Cuban baseball players, like 20 years ago, they'd do a tournament in the US and just stay?

But they were like 45 years old. Yeah. I'm saying they were 26. Yeah. Also, if a Russian were to defect, Putin would just probably say, hey, I got your family. Yeah, I got all you. I got everyone.

Yeah. I mean, the most amazing thing about the OV Gold Chase is, and this is totally not possible, it could not be true. He could be like 46 years old. Like you never know with Russians. So the fact that he's like, could be a little older is even crazier. Do you know that when he was,

he was drafted in 04, I believe. And prior to the draft, the GM of the Panthers at the time was just onslaughting the league with with a technicality that he should be able to be drafted that year because of leap years. Yeah. Yeah. Technically he was 18 if we counted leap years. I love it. And that's I respect the hell out of that. Like just trying your hardest, knowing how good he'd be. It's a great play. Imagine if they had said yes. You're right.

Like, oh yeah. Exactly. Like that guy would have been the GM of the century. Ever. Yeah. Ever. So I mean, they gave it their best shot and then he changed Washington forever. Do you think the fact that there was no Russia in the four nations actually helped Ovi because

he got a nice little break in the middle of it? And not, you know, not one caps player was on any of the four nations actually helped Ovi because he got a nice little break in the middle of it. Yes. And not, you know, not one caps player was on any of the teams. Right. Yeah. It's a big break where you see McDavid get injured, the Kachucks get injured. There were several other guys too that I can't think of right now that, yeah, I mean, you're trying to win a cup and all of a sudden you're going to war in an exhibition for a week.

Definitely affects you. I kind of love that hockey's down for that. I don't know if the owners are willingly down for it. Well, I mean, I think I originally first bashed basketball on your show years ago, I'm talking 2017, and that night was the greatest thing in the world for the hockey basketball conversation. They were squaring off at center ice in an exhibition and basketball was like throwing like balls through a hula hoop with cars on the court.

By the way, we found it. It didn't go well because I watched as Max tried to, he had to at one point Google how to spell appearance. But I think you're I was spelling it right by the way. I think you Tied. Tied. So I don't know when this was last updated. When was this last updated? Yesterday.

Oh, okay. So there we go. So you're now number one. You are number one all time leader. Best guest. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. In terms of appearances.

That's just amazing news right there. I mean Mike Portnoy, the list, the names on that list. We gotta get Mr. Portnoy back on. Yeah I know. Why would you stop having him on just because his son is mean to him? Yeah, Randy Moss is on that list the white one that is yeah the white one It's not have you ever had the the black Randy? No, we have not he said no. No, we've never asked We should I'm sure we such a no-brainer for you guys

I think we have tried to have him on the past, but it wasn't it wasn't like he said no I think the schedule just never lined up. Yeah, we will have him on why no Jaden Daniels Oh, we have he's been on yeah, not so because I knew you had on We had Jaden Daniels on right after he won the Heisman and then we were gonna try to get him on Super Bowl week But it was Super Bowl weeks weird because it's like every interview Either have your yeah Either have your friends that you know will come down and sit with you. Or you have people who are selling something which no disrespect to them because why

not go make money pitching a product. And then we realized we're going to do grit week in that area. So it's like we'd rather talk to him when he's when he's more like chill. When he's not Yeah, we start going from interview to interview all super bowl. Plus, if we would have him on that week, it would be us interviewing him, but also like four other shows putting out their Jaden Doran interview. And then they're saying the same thing on every show.

I just love talking about Jiffy Lube, their car care service, second to none. Skittles. My mom is watching every girl I'm with like a hawk. Yeah, I'm okay with that. No girls. Yeah, okay. I feel some tension between the two of you. There's no tension. He told me last night that I have a beef with you. I feel some tension between the two. Yeah, there's no tension.

He told me last night that I have a beef with you. I said about what sport. Now, all right. So friendship. Yeah. About the sport of friendship. The sport of friendship. That's serious. And I've heard, I've heard through the grapevine from two separate sources that wit has been on edge about this. Well, I'm wondering, like all of a sudden I got a guy that like, I'm friendly with. I don't know like super well, you and I, that's coming up to me with a dead serious face walking out going, I'll see you tomorrow. I said, does anyone know what that's about? Everyone's telling me no. So obviously, I mean, I'm coming on a show, knowing that the host of the show has a beef with me. I'm curious

Well, we've known each other for how long we've known each other for about seven eight years eight years eight years I've considered you a friend. We've always been friendly. We haven't hung it's been a lot of time That's why I say we're friendly. We're not friends, but we're friendly. I don't have your number. Yeah, I would agree with that So what's interesting is I was going on your Twitter the other day because I want to see what's Whitney posting about. I want to be able to have a good interview. What's he fired up about?

You don't follow me on Twitter. I do. You don't follow me on Twitter, Whit. That's one of those things that you end up on somebody's page and you press it by accident. Oh, no. You go with that? Well, I know for a fact at one point I followed you and there was no point in time where I

went, I'm going to go unfollow PFT commenter. Yeah, so that's what concerned me. I was like, we used to follow each other. I'm going to do it right again. So hold on. You truthfully thought as a listener of this show the number one most occurring guest Yeah, you think I went and unfollowed. That's what made me so concerned I actually didn't think that way would I actually I figured out what happened

I think you remember when I locked down my Twitter account with 999 999 followers. Yes, I think you might have unfollowed and try to refollow just to see like Oh, is it really locked down? And then I think I told you might have unfollowed and tried to re-follow just to see like, oh, is it really locked down? And then I think I told you at the time, like, no, if you opted out, I'm not letting you back in until I open it up. And then you just never came in. I think that's what happened. So the whole time you knew what happened. No, I thought about it more overnight and I was like, I'm pretty sure that's it.

I just wanted you to stew in the beef a little bit longer. Yeah. I'm like, last night, I'm like talking to Francis. I'm like, I don't know what the fuck I did to PFT commenter. I'm asking Big Cat what I do Big Cat's like I don't know anything and I'm like this man's lied to me. No but I didn't know. I don't believe him. When you what did I say to you last night? I said you said I don't know anything. I said I don't I don't think I've ever seen PFT genuinely mad at anyone so I wouldn't worry that much. Oh that's not true I've ever seen PFT genuinely mad at anyone, so I wouldn't worry that much. Oh, that's not true. I've been mad at Max before. Yeah. I mean, I gotta be honest. I was disgusted by Max.

Oh. Disgusted. I texted Dan. Yeah. Did you see me? No. The April 1st thing. Oh. We don't have to do that.

We don't have to do that. So hold on. Come on. We do not have to do this. I was listening. Hold on, Max. I'm sorry. So, Max. It's always the best. I was listening. I'm listening. I was on. You do not have to do this. Hold on Max, I'm sorry. So Max, I was listening. I'm listening and I was on a flight home. What was it?

It was last week, right? I was like. It was April 1st. So I texted Dan in the middle of listening. I'm like, who is on the phone? Like who is playing Big Dom? And then as I kept listening, I'm like, oh my gosh, Jerry O'Connell, very funny, very funny clip. Yes

Then it comes out of you like telling that kid you're gonna fire him. I was like you were that Yeah, I was mad I'm I Was like I was actually gonna fire him. Yeah, you know, but you were like I almost hit him I texted Dan, I'm like... I'm actually gonna fire him. Yeah, you... No, but you were like... I almost hit him, I guess.

I'm gonna slap you. Yeah, he's gonna slap him. So like growing up, were you like, you could not take a joke? No, the joke is I've taken many a joke on this very program right here. Yeah, but you've become like a household name, enormous part of the show. Enormous. It's gone from like, you came on, like, who's this guy? And now it's like, Max is like a storyline every episode. And then you're telling a guy you're going to fire him?

I was like, holy shit. I mean, this guy's crazy. I was embarrassed. I should have known Big Dom's voice. And that's what I was ashamed of myself. I thought you said you knew it wasn't him. No I said it I thought wait obviously I didn't know it wasn't him or else I wouldn't have reacted that way. What day was this on? This was on April 1st. Okay yeah yeah yeah. So my thing is I said it my thing is when you saw the how

did you guys release it like for mature audiences only yeah yeah the PMTV were you like oh my god I'm so embarrassed how I look here were you still like no fuck them some of both yeah I mean those were all those were fake closed captions no no I think it's just funny I was I never thought you were mad. I was like, oh no, I was mad I started breaking this is like a Finger skateboard where he was having in my hand right now He was mad at us and then after I'd say even after like 10 15 minutes you gradually became mad at yourself Yeah, and then you got mad at yourself for being so mad, right? I'm being like I'm gonna look stupid

He was mad at the situation little did you know like how stupid you were gonna look? as I know I was like oh I have like a little I was afraid to like ever mess with him. Yeah, he's he's he's an Italian He just is an Italian Use that excuse no, but you know and don't make a joke with no there's some Italians It's like all right. They're not like, you know, they're Italian but that's just part of their personality. Like if you had to describe Max, it's Italian.

That's what he, that's how he, his emotions. I just had a piece of pizza with him, I can tell. His emotions, all of his emotions are just like ramped up. Yeah. Just good, bad, happy, sad. But the ego stuff, I get that. Your show's built on people being diehard fans and it's like, on April Fool's prank, I've never seen somebody that mad.

Ever. I have a litmus test for when I think something we've done is really funny and it's when Witt and Yans text me being like, oh my God. Yans texted me first. I got a text from both of them and I was like he's got fucking max he's snapping Two very funny guys and when they text I'm like oh, this was good like we hit it we got something Oh, yeah, I should uh I over yet. I may have overreacted It all it's very very very good content

Yeah, just unfortunately at your expense this time, but you've this time, but you've been on the right side of things lately, right? Yeah, no, you go to the Super Bowl. And then did I hear there's a chance you're going to the White House? Yes. I don't think that might have been happening. He's been in talks with Big Dom about it. Like Big Dom felt so bad.

Big Dom texted me right away. He's like, that's like, I just listened. So funny. We can't let my me right away is like that's like I just listened so funny We can't let my pies on go down like that. We're gonna try to get him into the White House I don't think it's I Which is which is more than fine, which is more than fine that it but it would be great We were joking that like imagine if he snaps on Donald Trump Yeah, or like fucker or big Dom hires him as security and then like one of the Eagles players gets like accosted by like a protester

And it's like who was on that who's on that detail. Oh, it's max No, I'm on yeah, yeah, that was bad. There's a lot of no fucking out front There's the south pal Antonio is really the one that I look back at we got something like how the fuck that I we got So that's south Palantoni. did I think that Sal Palentoni is? You started listening to Italian. Sal Pal. I know. I know.

That was, you see, there was moments where I would just get, I'd be like, oh, I'm starting to do it right now where I just think about like, how are you that stupid? And just being, I was mostly mad at myself. I was mostly mad. No, no, no. Sal Pal. We can tell. Bam, Bam Majira, Max.

So, so Whit, let's talk a little hockey. Spit and Chicklets, everyone should listen. It's the best. You guys, especially when we get to like playoff time, it's so awesome. It seems like every year we have something big in playoffs with us. Yeah. So I'm kind of hoping again this year like something happens. Is there any bet going? Is it, I mean, I know that Biz doesn't do his bets. So you don't make bets with him anymore.

It's the same. Who was I just talking about? There was a guy that used to work at Barstool that made a betty jump, jump in the Hudson river if the Rangers lost. He never did. It's like, all right, well, you know, we don't make bets with you anymore. But is that Avery? Avery.

You know what Avery's doing? No. Avery is producing a podcast. I'll give you one guess and I'll give you- I actually know who. Okay. I forgot. Yeah, Hawk to a Jake Oh, I thought he was working for Jake. No, he was producing the the talk to a podcast when she did the meme draw. Yeah. Yeah

So that was what he was doing I thought he works for Jake Paul and he does now I think it's his no Company. Yes. Yeah, yeah, Paul. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, had to win the cup. And you won't make a bet with Biz because he didn't get circumcised. I don't even think he really is like, he's so into it. It's almost one of those, like, I don't need to bet it. Right. Because I have so much riding on it anyways. Right. But there's just some crazy, what would be the word,

coincidences or things that are kind of happening that lead back to the last Maple Leaf Stanley Cup. Team of Destiny? Yes, if you want to look at it that way. For a team who's had just no success, 1967. The first is that, well the most recent one I heard is the last time both the Detroit Red Wings and Boston Bruins didn't make the Stanley Cup was 1967.

Nothing crazy. The playoffs, yeah, yeah. Kind of nuts that those two teams didn't make it the last time they won. Well, they're both out. There was the last time the there was a member of the Maple Leafs with the nickname Chief 1967. Their coach is now Nickname Chief. It's his first year.

OK, there were some other things that are kind of I'm missing off the top my head right now. There was one amazing one. It'll come back to me, but basically it's like, you have all these storylines of the Leafs. You have their best player or one of them coming up as a free agent. So Mitch Marner, nobody has any clue. Basically, Biz is describing it as,

if he lights it up and we go on a run, even if we don't win the cup, we have to resign him. If he doesn't play good, we don't resign him. So it's like, well, you're really gonna rely like just on this one singular playoff to determine his fate and future as a Maple Leafs. So that's kind of crazy storyline there. Here's another one right here.

Brube, he coached the Blues. He snapped a 52 year championship crowd. Yes, yes. And then this would be 52 years since 1967. It's wild. And not to mention, like, forget the other things, and I wish I had all the other ones in my head, but... You can like see the graphic that they're going to put up on the screen.

Yeah, right? I could see, yeah, and we had a guy on named Hockey Illuminati on Chicklets, who's a die hard Leafs fan, hasn't missed a game in years, and he had, he was listing us off like different stats. And unfortunately it was a while ago, I don't remember, but they are very good too. So like, I don't know, like I actually feel like this could be the year. They're not probably not going to have to play a Florida team in the first round, whereas if it sticks out, they win the division, they get Ottawa, which is actually better for hockey as a whole because then you get the battle of Ontario

and you get the battle of Florida with Tampa and the Panthers who played this incredible series, I think three years ago. And for Toronto, it's like, all right, well, Ottawa hasn't been in the playoffs for, I don't know, 10 years, nine years, so we should be able to get by them. Then they get to play the Florida team that was beat up by the other Florida team who lost.

So it's kind of all setting up. And hockey would be very, very well off to have the Leafs go on a run. The hockey related revenue would be through the roof. And the East, I think, now PFT may be mad, I think there's two, maybe three teams that could win the cup. I don't know if I could sit in Washington one of them.

Can I ask a question about that? Why Washington? Yeah, they're, they're, they're the best team. Cause I was looking at the odds. Cause I want by the end of this episode, I want you to give me a pick that I can ride. But like they, they have the most points and they're, I don't know, like third or fourth in the East in odds. Why they have, they've scored the most goals too. Why? Um, I'll just say goaltending. They got some goaltending questions. They got two goalies and they have they've scored the most goals to what why um I'll just say goaltending I they got some goaltending question

they got two goalies and they thought they knew which direction they were gonna go early in the season and Neither one has like they get on hot streaks sometimes But neither one has done anything to separate themselves to take the that's our guy And then when you're going into the playoffs like if you don't if you have a 1a and a 1b Do you have a number one like it's kind of like I don't, if you have a 1A and a 1B, do you have a number one? Like it's kind of like, I don't know, the league's changed where you now have goalies really split time and play, I don't know, 45 and 38 games, whatever it may be. But once you get in the playoffs, it seems like every year the winning team has a go-to guy in net. Yeah.

Now, I think that to me is the other thing. Also, it's been like this magical run of the goal chase and it's been such a cool storyline. But like when you get down to matchups and then you're playing a team four out of seven, like, I don't know, like, I think Dylan Strom's an awesome player and like, but if he's going up against like Barkov or Matthews, it's like some of these other

center men, it's like, I don't know, can he can can he hold up his end of the bargain? Like he could, no doubt, but it's more just looking at the whole team. But it's been a wild ride. They also have kind of struggled lately. Now, I think they've been on like a bender every time Ovi scores. It's like, we tied it up. We got to go out. We broke the record. Right. And yeah, I don't know.

I think that they're going to get Montreal in the first round. That's like this crazy storyline nobody saw coming. The last time they played in the playoffs was when Washington won the President's Trophy, lost in the first round to them, to kind of a shocking upset, kind of similar there. Now, if Washington were to get to the conference finals, like I don't think anyone would be surprised,

but it's more like not everyone's just picking it to happen. Right, right. Based on the record. How do you feel? Are you super confident? I'm not, I think that we can go on a run for sure. I think that, I disagree with you. I think that Dylan Strowm can play with anybody.

I love watching him play. He's a great player. He's a great player. He's good at setting his teammates up, always where he needs to be. I think Tom Wilson is playing one of the best seasons of his career. And Ovi is certainly at the top of his game right now.

The difference between this team and the team that you were talking about that lost to Montreal back in whatever year that was. 2010, I think. Yeah, so they had a hot goalie, very hot goalie. Halak. Yeah, Halak, I fucking hate that guy. Our offense was a shitload of Mike Green firing in like long distance, low percentage shots.

And so he's getting a bunch of saves. We would out shoot them by like 20 shots a game. But they weren't like grade A. But they weren't grade A shots. And this team has more of a cohesive offense, I think, than that team did at times. Like we play prettier hockey at times than that team did. So we interviewed Dylan Stromm recently and kind of asked him, like, what did Carberry say before this year? Because they made a lot of moves in the off season, right? They brought in, like, Jacob Chickren.

They ended up bringing in guys. This Protoss guy is unbelievable. He's a Mellow Russian monster. The Capitals also drafted his brother, who's another, like, I'm talking six six monsters. I guess Carberry told them like my biggest thing is we need to score more like last year they were yeah like one of the best coaches in the league yeah say we got to score goals yeah they

led the league in goals and even Dylan storms like I don't think anyone saw this coming but obviously like Protoss and OV and yes Strowman I don't know I I think that the when I say like why I don't think they're gonna win it If you're a Caps fan, I say this guy's an idiot. He hasn't given really one reason. It's kind of just like a gut feeling I think last year they were so bad and I know it's a different team I'm like how would be that this team be that good the next year, but so far I've looked like an idiot Yeah, I don't think one guy on Chicklets picked him to make the playoffs. Wow. That's crazy. Listen, I don't have the same confidence that I had back in even 2017 or 2018 when they made the playoffs. But I do think that there's something very cool about this

team and they've been a joy to watch the entire season. From the first game. They've been pretty consistent and I thought that there might be a little bit of let down after Ovi got the record because this season has been so much about getting the right, as it probably should be. It's a crazy, crazy achievement. And part of me was that maybe like when that happens, it's like, oh, the balloon kind of burst, but then playoffs come. I like the fact that we're playing against the Hurricanes tonight. I was just going to bring that up.

That we got in that line brawl with at the end of the last game because that's going to be a physical game. I think that's enough to shock you out of any sort of like goal record hangover that you might have I was gonna say I almost wish this was like tomorrow morning because By the sounds of it. There's gonna be fireworks tonight, and that's where Washington at least against a team like Carolina like They don't really have anyone like the way Washington has a Tom Wilson. You know like the when they played last week anyone like the way Washington has a Tom Wilson you know like the when they played last week turned into a really dirty game ah oh slash Tom Wilson and then Tom Wilson skating around and he's saying who's gonna protect you you could

read who's gonna protect you like basically like I'll kill anyone right and now they're playing again quickly and even in that game Carberry was over kind of whispering in Tom Wilson's ear and Biz and I were saying like what do you think he's saying to him like please, please kind of like calm down, calm down. It was more like he might take a 25 game suspension right now. Yeah. So they, yeah that is last night as you're listening on Friday and I think we're gonna see some fireworks and I think Tom Wilson will be one of those like looking at the bench like who's gonna do anything. Right. You have nobody here that I won't pump.

Right. And this is also coming from the Jalen Chatfield he did you see that move? Yeah, yeah, you like flipped them. Yeah, he kind of like figure four leg lock like slew footed him Yeah, no helmet on pretty dangerous. It sounds like maybe a little exaggeration But like he could have died like if that guy lands on his head, dude He's well in hot what you do in a fight, right? Isn't it hockey like you're not supposed to like you could obviously punch But you're not supposed to like intentionally try to like like bring someone to the ground in a move like no

I think you actually can like I think if you're squared off and you grab each other's shoulders and you want to send them down Which ironically is what Tom Wilson did to Panarin that was was different. He was wearing, he jumped on like a backpack. He was behind. But like whipping him around like that. It was more about getting your leg behind his leg. And then, you know, if you take a guy and slam him down, it's like, buddy, I'm bigger, I'm stronger, I'm meaner than you.

But to use your leg, it was just, I don't know. And Rod Brindamore, he called me a moron. It was not directly, he said, media, you're all morons. I'm a media guy now Yeah, you are I was the one that was saying like I think he should have got like a three or four game suspension But they didn't suspend him. So now it's kind of like who's what's to stop the next guy from figure four leg sweeping again Right, right. All right. So, uh so the Leafs These are three teams three teams in the East

Oh, you I give you these three teams one of these three teams has to make it to the cup Otherwise you lose all your credibility. Okay, holy shit. Yeah, that was big There's a lot of credibility and this is me this means something because we always We have a lot of credibility on this Florida Tampa, Toronto. I'm taking all three atlantic's. Okay I think that the only thing that'll stop that is whoever of those three makes the conference finals Might just be beat to shit out of gas right and and I think Carolina has a pretty nice route based on the fact that Jersey doesn't have a lot of their players healthy Jack Hughes being the biggest one. Wait, the devils are in the playoffs devils are in some follow Frank the tank on Twitter

You would never imagine Team folded. No, legit. I think he was talking like they were winning the draft lottery. They're in the playoffs. Oh, that's so funny. And you know, but without Jack Hughes, it's like, oh, Carolina kind of comes to, the last time they played,

after New Jersey beat the Rangers in seven, two years ago, when Avery didn't jump in the Hudson that the Hurricanes like just whooped on him now. It's two years later, but no Jack Hughes so The problem would be of the three Atlantic teams to get to the conference final They could face a team that hasn't dealt with like two rounds of just kicking the shit out of each other right on the other end All right, so what about the West is there one team better than everyone real quick? Wait, I wanted to just throw this stat at you. I know that The Panthers are a great team. Yes, only Cup champions

Do you know offhand the caps record against the Panthers this year and the total goals? No, but based on you bringing it up. I'm gonna guess that the caps are three or four and all they're three You know against the Panthers and the total cumulative score is 16 to seven. This is why Caps fans really, really hate me. They hate me. And I think I've been tweeted like, buddy, you don't know what you're talking about. We've crushed the Panthers all year. And I have nothing to say.

It's more just like, it's kind of an eye test for me. And what's funny is you bring up the West. The same exact thing can be said for Winnipeg. Winnipeg and Washington this year, I think both both teams, the expectations weren't that crazy high going into the year. They're the number one and two team. And I'm still like same thing with Washington. Like I don't really buy Winnipeg. Now, based on last year, they played Colorado in the

first round. it was a shit kicking like Hellebuck was not Hellebuck and Colorado's offense was just humming and Winnipeg looked horrible and now you know they're not going to have to face Colorado in the first round because they're going to win the division and maybe get like a wounded Minnesota team but still I'm like the next round that means they have Dallas or Colorado. Right. I actually like Colorado the best. Because that did Colorado won the Stanley Cup what two years ago? No three years ago. They won it three. Three years ago. It went Colorado then Vegas then Florida. But that like that team is still the team that like there's a lot of the same guys from the from the Stanley Cup year. Well yeah mainly McCarr and McKinnon and and

they have this crazy emotional storyline coming through of Gabriel Landiscock and do you remember like him and his captain of the Avalanche his last NHL game was the game they won the cup in I think they won in five that year or maybe six against the Lightning. And Lightning, they were going for the third straight, they had nothing left in the tank. And Landiskoog raised the cup and then it came out after, he had played the entire playoffs on just a crippled knee. Like his knee was a mess, he had been cut by a skate. They fixed that and then they realized

that it wasn't just a cut, something else had happened. Realized he didn't have cartilage where there needed to be cartilage. So he hasn't played hockey coming up on three years. Wow. And he's now back. He's going down to the AHL as of yesterday. Wow.

So that way he can go play three games in the AHL, not have to be put on the cap for the avalanche, which would cause them issues trying to get him back in the lineup. So no, we'll go send them to the miners for three games. And then when the caps cancel, then there's no cap starting game. One of the playoffs, he's back. Yep. Their captain's back three years. So mad when this happens, but it's so funny because every year it happens where a guy will get injured. I know they can use them later in the year and it doesn't come to the cap. And it's like, it's such an advantage. It's such an infuriating thing for other fan bases

and for myself last year, Vegas got hurdle and Mark Stone was put on LTIR again and I'm like, it was like the breaking bad, like he can't keep getting away with this. And now it's different with Landiscaug to me because like, I don't know, I just have so much respect for him. We interviewed him recently,

he had a documentary made about his comeback, he talks a lot about how many nights, he's like, I'm have so much respect for him. We interviewed him recently, he had a documentary made about his comeback, he talks a lot about how many nights, he's like, I'm done, the thought of this is over, and that he's able to come back healthy enough and give it a chance. So hopefully everything's okay in the minors, in the three games he's playing, and then we get to see, for them,

they get their captain back, while also having made, I think, five or six huge deals. They switched up their entire lineup throughout the year. They they brought in two new goalies, which is like you never see that. And then they traded for Charlie Coyle from Boston. They traded for Brock Nelson from the Islanders. They made all these deals where like their team's awesome. They they they traded Rontan in this huge deal to Carolina.

I got Jack Drury, Martin Natchez, who's been sick with McK McKinnon So Colorado to me is they're the best team in the West. Okay, so I might be my That might be my future and if they play Dallas, which I think they will in the first round one of those Kind of unfair like either team could win the cup and somebody to lose in that happened last year with the Knights in the stars right, it's those two teams were incredible, so with the Knights and the Stars, right? Exactly. Like those two teams were incredible. So, Betman's been very open with loving this system of having the three division winners, you know, two and three play each other in both and then one from each division plays

the two wild cards. Wild cards, yeah. I get it builds these rivalries, but it also every year knocks out a true cup contender in the first round. Yeah, that seems kind of bullshit. I don't know. Now, most of the time, if you look at it, if you did one through eight old school way, I think like, it always kind of ends up being the same anyway. So like the argument, it's kind of a moot point,

but I don't know. It just sucks for a Dallas Stars fan or an Avs fan that one of them is going home. And the reason I'm really kind of hell bent on Colorado being able to get by them is one of the best defensemen in the league is a Finnish guy, Miro Heskinen for Dallas. He's out. Okay, and I don't think he's coming back for the first round and without him I think it's gonna be tough for them to beat him. Okay. I'm a PNF's guy. What do we think about about Betman? Where are we at with me? Because I feel like on this show we've got a pretty good narrative going around. Adam Silver, we got a good one going around. Manfred in baseball.

Yep, and we know a lot about Roger Goodell. All I know is that hockey fans tend to not like him. But I don't know why, why... I wanna hate him, cause I wanna hate every commissioner. Cause it's easy to be like, that guy fucking sucks. Yeah, he stinks. Um, why should I hate him? I have no reason why you could hate him.

Do you have his phone number? I do not have his phone number. Does Biz have his phone number? Yes. Biz, Biz has texted him. Biz, Biz has shown him. You're compromised. Biz has shown me messages where... Because every hockey guy, I see him, they're like, that guy's a clown. No, but everyone says that and everyone boos him when his name's announced.

And I don't think 90% of the people booing would have a reason why they're booing him. It's just fun to boo. It's just like, oh, we're booing Gary Betman. Okay. But what the game's done, I mean, I don't know, I think he's coming up 25 years, roughly, if you could look that up, maybe Hank or Max. I don't wanna make you mad, Max, this isn't a prank,

but just see how long he's been the commissioner, and the league's been pretty outstanding. Yeah. In all that time. I feel like hockey's in a great place right now. He's grown the game enough, I mean, not just him, but he's always done a good job. How long? 93 holy shit. Yeah, wait, that's that's 30 years crazy 31 years crazy And I think he's already starting to make it clear. He's kind of figuring out an exit path

But I don't know I guess one complaint would be he he was kind of at the helm now granted because of the owners of like Getting rid of best on best, you know, it had been since 2014 till we got our exhibition all-star game this year Yeah, but now he's back and he's brought it back where we're getting something every two years with Olympic World Cup I don't really know why Batman gets it's probably residual from the lockout What it was Oh six when they remember when when the HL was on like OAN Yeah, yeah, that was my rookie year that was so brutal nobody could watch it You couldn't watch hockey at Sydney Crosby and Alexander Ovechkin as rookies. Yeah, you're looking for the Outdoor Life Network

Yeah, was it the Stanley Cup finals were on Spike TV? John Taffer leading into the Sailing Cup. Yeah. Shut it down. No, I think that you're right. That's what it is. There was a half shortened season that was at the end of my career. I think that was my second to last year.

And then my first year pro, I was in the minors all year, which I might've been anyway because the whole season was canceled. So that's probably the issue. But like any commissioner, it's like hate the owners. They're literally doing exactly what the owners tell them to do. Yeah, right. And in hockey.

They're there to take the bullets. Like that's our whole thing with Goodell, as much as you can blame Goodell for a lot of stuff. And he is an asshole. He's just doing what Jerry Jones wants. And they're paid handsomely. Yeah, 40 million from him. It's like, okay, I'll take that job in a heartbeat.

In a second. Yeah, well what else?'s like, okay, I'll take that job on a heartbeat. In a second. Yeah, well, what else? Yeah, Betman, I don't know. I mean, the game, hockey isn't such a great place right now. It really is. That's why I hope the playoffs is kinda legendary. It's also one of the reasons he likes the playoff format. Even though you might lose two cup contenders

in the first round, the first round is so watched and anticipated that you know you're going to get some incredible storylines. And he almost looks at it, like at least with our podcast last year, we were doing, we were doing, we do twice a week in the playoffs and we were doing live shows for at least one of the days a week. And we noticed as the playoffs went on and you get to conference finals, which is end of May and cup finals in June, viewership was kind of dropping because I think as the weather changes, like yeah, unless your your team's going, I think a lot of people are kind of like dude hockey started 10 months ago. Yeah

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The other thing with hockey and I know that NBA still has higher ratings But the NBA first round versus hockey first round is office is such an opposite like hockey first round You can always have those upsets all the series feel competitive NBA. NBA is just like, all right, let's get to this over. Right. Let's just get, let's get on with it. Two sweeps in a couple and five. Right. Where hockey, it's like, you know, I think that the, the record might be seven of eight went to game seven. I might've been six, but this year I wouldn't be surprised at all to see four or five game sevens, which is the best thing in the world. The first round, you just get all these eyeballs on

the sport. So, Betman's done a good job. I mean, the league's better than it was when he came in. Yeah. I got a question for you. I heard you say this, you've never had OV on. Do you ever think you could get OV on? We were talking about this the other day. Like we have no in whatsoever. Not one guy that you played with. Well like Oshi I'm very friendly with and like maybe I could be like, Hey, can you ask him?

But I don't even want to ask Oshi to ask him. Biz and I have kind of like a, not a theory, but a hope that a lot of these guys, when they retire, like Brad Marshawn, for example, he's like, I'd love to come on when I retire. Right. Um, Drew Doughty. I'd love to come on when I retire. Now. Drew Doughty, I'd love to come on when I retire. Now, most of these guys say I'll do a Sandbagger right now, but for a long term sit down interview, I'll do it when I retire.

Maybe we get Ovi. Now there's a chance Ovi's back in Russia. Like I think he's mentioned before, he'd like to play one last year in the KHL for, he's only ever played for Dynamo Moscow and the Washington Capitals. And it would be pretty sick for Russia if he went back and just did a fun year playing for them.

But if he does that, he's probably gone. He's never coming back. He's never coming back. His wife's Russian and he's a god there. Yeah. Yeah, I have tried to get Ovi on part of my take before. And I've been in touch with the Caps PR before. When you were running by him?

Yeah, when I was running by him. That was maybe one of the coolest moments of my life that clip because you recognized his wife Yeah, yeah, so I was I was out for a jog This was like probably ten years ago was out for a jog in my parents old neighborhood I was running around this big lake that they had And so I get to the other side of it and I knew that's where Ovi's house was But I'm out for this jog and then I see this dude in a hoodie on like a BMX bike, like a dirt bike. He's a monster. Just riding up, up this hill right past me, coming straight towards me on the road. I jogged

past him and I was like, okay, that guy's like a machine on this bike. But I didn't think it was Ovi. I had no idea. Then I see his wife. I'm like, oh shit, that's Ovi's wife. Look back at Ovi. He just gets the top walks his bike down the hill bikes it up again That he was doing rehab for his MCL He had a torn MCL and his whole thing was I just go ride bike and I'm guessing his trainers were like hey I know we got the stem machine. Yeah, like no no Russia We we ride bike uphill ride bike uphill walk bike down ride bike uphill and yeah, he did that I was probably out for about 35 minutes and he did that the entire time I just stopped and watched it was

then how what was your approach to ask him for part of my take oh that wasn't I wasn't doing part of my take at the time oh oh no no I was just a fan but I've reached out to their their PR people for the caps before trying to set up other guys on the team for an interview and I ask about Ovi and they're always just like ha. Yeah, yeah. Like oh, like you're really, like they don't even like consider you a real ass. Yeah I do think that the language barrier is a real thing with Ovi.

He speaks English but it's, you know, I don't know if he could do a full interview. Yeah he might not want to sit here and then just be doing the translations in his head and then like you two would be fucking with him too so then he's got to deal with that and he wouldn't know you be fucking with him. Yeah, so then he's got to deal with that Yeah, no, you're fucking with them, right? You know, it's like That's a guy though That would just be so incredible to sit down and talk to like the fact that he broke that record I said on I said on spitting checklets and I was like you guys are gonna make fun of me But like I was like emotional watching it

I was sitting there with my my two of my boys and my wife was there and she doesn't care or know about hockey. But for a month I've been kind of like telling the boys like he scored again, like eight left, eight left. And then it was perfect because my son had two hockey games that Sunday, but it was a 1230 start. It was right in the middle of the games. I was like, great. And I'm sitting there and I'm watching and like the way Gretzky spoke and had the Gordie

Howe pin and I was just like misty eyed. I'm like, I can't believe I got to, I said, I can't believe I get to play against this guy like my whole life, like hockey's all I cared about. And like Wayne Gretzky's record, nobody ever beat it. And then like I played against this guy who just broke this record that nobody thought would would be ever touched. It's just like crazy. Even now, like thinking about it like that, like that record was untouchable.

Right. There's those moments in sports where you're like, I'm lucky enough to see this and I'll never, and there'll never probably be someone who breaks his record. So it's like, I saw that. So that was what I kind of said on Chicklets when I was telling the guys, I was sitting there just emotional about it in a way. And then I had responses on Twitter that's like, well, nobody fucking said that Gretzky's to be broken. I'm like, that's kind of a valid point. Like maybe, but there was a stat I saw on Twitter that, you know, if there's a 12-year-old phenom out there right now and like he's going to be

in the NHL in six years, he needs to average 45 a year for 20 years. Right. And a lot of things have to go right. Yeah. For it to even be years. Right, and a lot of things have to go right. Yeah, for it to even be close. Right, which is why Ovi, now my dad doesn't like Ovi. Like I don't really know why. Like he cheats defensively.

Like you know how dads just pick guys they hate? Yeah, cherry picker. Yeah, like yeah, I'm like dad, he plays so physical. Like yeah, he occasionally cheats offensive offensively and if you score that much it's like coaches like we got to deal with it he's been running guys for 20 years. Right. It's one thing if he was perimeter and never hit it's like I don't know how he wasn't injured.

And I love that he like it's not like a Tom Brady or like a LeBron where they're they're saying you know there's an article every summer. It's like they put $10 million into their body in the train. He looks horrible. He's just fucking gas and beers like two minutes after. Have you seen there's a clip years ago, he's playing like beach volleyball that and he's playing in a Russian like soccer league. Yeah. And he just looks like a tank. Yeah. Yeah.

Did you see the I'm sure PFT you saw like the April 6th the day he broke it like all the other April like it's just wild Yeah, just crazy stuff that the way it all came down and and then I kind of want him to get the hat trick at home But then it was almost better that like he was in this away building in Long Island It was half caps fans and the tickets were going for a thousand bucks Nobody would pay to watch the Islanders. And he does it there. Just the coolest story of the season. And we've had a bunch of them. Now the Islanders are charging, I think 50 bucks

to print out the physical ticket from that game. If you went to that game. Isn't that wild to think about like 20 years ago? You have to pay them, cause they have the extra dollars to print out a ticket. Oh my god. Cause everyone had it on their phone, yeah. Like the ticket stuff that you can like frame.

Yeah, cause you can't get an actual ticket.. It's say I actually I would frame my phone's digital picture before I Cure code I was there. Oh my god. Do we want to talk about what happened with the Bruins this year? Yeah, I don't mind. I'm not a Bruins fan, and Don Sweeney had kind of come at us. I think we had talked about it when Biz and I were here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody saw this coming. I mean, I didn't expect him to be that good.

Actually, the coolest story of the Bruins season is Postronok. He has 100 points. The next guy has 55 points. That's crazy. It's actually one of the, he should be like, probably top five in MVP for what he's done, because he has nobody, and yeah yet it all ended so quick and you know they kind of lowballed

Brad Marshawn which I get and you know Boston people are like well that's what Belichick did depreciating assets it's like well the Patriots were winning every year the Bruins won one cup since 1972. It's kind of like I understand and their ticket prices keep rising and now for the Bruins fans, it's kind of an ugly, ugly future. Like they don't, in the trades they made with Coyle and they traded Trent Frederick, they got a really high scoring kid that's in the USHL now and could end up being a pretty good NHLer. But other than that, like it's not like Chicago. They got some big time

prospects. Yeah. The defense is looking good. San Jose. They got some studs where Boston and they're going to be top of the draft and they get another one. Yeah right. Now Boston they actually somehow it worked out in their favor where when they traded Marshawn and coil and Frederick and all these guys they truly tanked the correct way where I think that right now they'd get the fourth overall pick. Oh wow. So that's actually like probably what they need it just it's probably gonna be three years of them picking pretty high and Bruins fans are not used to that I mean as much as I chirp them for getting the one cup since 72 it's they've been to like two other finals and every year since about

2008 they were they were a cont. So they had a good run. Is there a guy in this draft or the next couple of drafts that everyone's got like pegged as the next? Next draft. Next draft is who? This draft upcoming, it seems there's a defenseman, this kid Matthew Schaefer, very highly rated. He's been injured all year, but apparently just a complete stud. There's a kid, James Haggins that played at Boston College this year, but it's one of those prospects coming up the year after

that in every sport you hear about, like wait till he's drafted. It's a kid, Gavin McKenna. Good hockey name. Great hockey name. Ironically, Connor Bedard's cousin. Oh, okay. Not through blood, I believe through marriage.

Okay. Which kind of matters to me a little bit because if it was through blood, I'd be like, what the fuck? Yeah, these freaks. Yeah what, who are these parents? But, um, he is what looks to be one of those McDavid type prospects. Uh, he had, I think the record for, for points in the WHL or maybe the CHL, uh, draft, uh,

plus one a year where he's two years away. I think it had five points a game in the first round of the playoffs. Like, you know, a true possibly game-breaking, you know, generational talent that now next year, whoever gets first overall will get. Wow. Okay. What's his game like? Just a playmaking, like fast scoring center.

Just like, it sounds like McDavid, which I kind of hate doing because Bedard got unfairly ranked that way, which his numbers are so incredible, but the expectations of Boudard were a little unfair. And maybe this is now happening to this kid. And you know, you end up blaming people like me who are talking about 16 year olds, like they're going to change the game.

But from everything I've heard, this this kid's the real deal. And now what's interesting is you used to have to if you played in the CHL and the Ontario Quebec or Western League, you couldn't go to college. They changed the rule. You can now play NCAA after you play junior. It's really going to screw over American kids. And I didn't think of that and had people reaching out when I was like, this is a good thing. It's going to make college hockey so good, which it will. But American kids are going to get shafted Scholarship wise because now you're getting the best Canadian kids and they can't go and play in the Canadian you can oh you can

Can but a lot of them won't yeah I mean well now kids might because then you can go to college before you wouldn't go right you couldn't go to college But what happens is that now the best Canadian kids will play in those leagues at 17 and 18 and then they'll go to college And then they'll get a payday to go to college. So a lot of American kids are probably going to lose scholarships to some great Canadian players that couldn't otherwise come years before. So people are saying now Gavin McKenna, like you can't go back to junior. You just made the biggest mockery of it, go to Michigan.

Right. Go to Michigan. Is that what he's doing? No, like people are kind of saying it's a rumor, right? But that's a thing as a, as a BU hockey fan, which they're in the frozen for this afternoon or this evening. We don't have a football program. Every big 10 school, your guys at Wisconsin can turn really back into powerhouse because

they're going to have huge dough. I heard a rumor that Michigan has 700 grand a year to give to hockey players. I mean, Dave having Larry Ellison just fall into his lap and being like paying for quarterbacks and he was like, well, Larry Ellison isn't going to pay for basketball or hockey. And I was like, but Dave, if Larry Ellison is paying for a football, there's just more money you could spread to other places. And Larry Ellison, maybe he would be so specific with his money money like this is going to football. Yeah, but that might just money He did yeah, he just might give him 10 million and then they decide so what they're gonna do is they're gonna change it So that that schools can pay directly to players. So it's I've heard that

Employees, yeah, they're gonna get like 20 million dollars and I'll still exist But my point to like to have a Larry Ellison He's gonna still go get the number one football recruit and you don't have to dip in your 20 million and you can use 700,000 for hockey. Exactly. Yeah. So it's almost like I don't understand. It's, it's, it's, I actually love the fact that college kids are getting paid because forever it's like they're bringing in so much money to the school. I get it. But my problem is the transfer portal and in all these sports and and now I'm more specific

to hockey, but like give them one transfer, no doubt. You know, freshman year, you don't love the situation, but you can't be transferring every year. I think it's ridiculous. I think being a coach of a college team now is harder than a pro because not only are you recruiting, you're also like, oh, I gotta figure out a way to keep guys. It's free agency every year. It's free agency every year and it's just kind of I don't know for hockey at least me it's like

and the other thing at least hockey wise like you find out who's on the portal list like before the NCAA so then it's like well I don't want to play this kid he's leaving yeah that's the same as basketball basketball too yeah no there's so many coaches find out. Yeah. A Penn State, the Penn State backup quarterback went into the portal before Penn State played in the college football playoff. It was a kid who actually played in games. Like he had a package for him.

Bo Pribula. And then they didn't play him. I'm guessing. No, he left. He just left the school. Oh wow. Yeah. With them going to compete for it.

It sucks. It's stupid. It's just, it's just, and I love how guys are getting paid, but it's just, it's kind of just too crazy for me. Maybe I sound like a boomer. No, no, I get it. But also in that case with the quarterback at Penn State, it's the system. So it was, the calendar was set up where he had to go in the portal right before the playoffs started because that's when teams make moves in the portal. So he has to put his name in there and then it fucks up his team. It's bad. It's just bad All right Why would they not make that this school public after the bowl because of the semesters and colleges, right?

The fact that they are like oh we can't enroll someone on January like 25th as opposed to January 15th give me a fucking break what was the Cardell Jones quote I'm not here to play school and you come here play school I mean the fact that I don't think he was kidding makes it even funnier yeah I didn't come here to play school yeah all right I got one last question for you how many classes you go to I actually I never was like ineligible yeah but the problem was I left after my junior year and then you know, like My wife now is like, oh you just have a year left. You got to go back and graduate. No, I'm through sophomore year

Oh my god. Oh only sophomore year. Yeah, so I was a Content I know what goes back to school schools hard. Yeah, I mean you said that I it was like a year ago You wrote your first blog and you said afterwards you're like I got a headache Or like studying. I don't know if I could do that But it would I I feel bad. I promised my parents when I left school They've said promise me you'll go back and graduate and my wife's brought it up and I'm like, oh my god Like I want to do it like deep down, but I'm like, I don't think I got it. It would be incredible. You got it Yeah, well, you don but I'm like I don't think I got it. It would be incredible. You got it? Yeah. No you don't got it. No I don't. I don't got it. So that was the other problem

was that I was I was in College of Arts and Sciences. I was a sociology major like one of those like hey what's the easiest major but at BU in that school you had to pass Spanish four. Oh yeah. And I I I failed. I dropped Spanish to three different times I'm like, how am I gonna get through four? I even make it through two you well, let's start with English one and also Also, like come on like you're telling me to get a degree you have to pass Spanish So that's doing nothing for you. So dumb. I did you graduate on time? Yeah, I did but I I I did well in college But like I think about taking tests and I there's no way my brain has that ability anymore You know what I mean? Yeah to sit there for two hours, right?

Like that kind of focus and reading you lose it. You just don't even have it max. Did you graduate? I did but we're all way graduated from Villanova great school. Wow. Yeah, yeah smart guy But I am talking to Hank back here about getting him back Want to do it together fuck though I'd have to go Some day you're gonna have kids and then like my kids I know my dad Did you ever graduate college like I got to do it you do too. I don't think you can so 2013 you hold on no no. Time out to this is a little different like when Hank has kids someday and they say dad you ever graduate college he's like no that's one thing when your kids say dad you ever graduate college you say no I went to the league Yeah, that's pretty fucking cool. No, I know

Way cooler than I went to Barstool you I made up a lie that I know how to edit videos School of hard knocks actually it was Boston University credited school, so we're kind of So let's go back together. The other cool thing about BU is that so I was given a full scholarship. That's still to this day is honored. Oh, so you want to go back to school? It's free, too. Which makes you gotta go.

I know. I know. You can find a couple of classes. Maybe play club hockey there. I I do not think I could make the team. So you guys know about the club hockey and like what it's turned into? Feidlberg. It's enormous.

I'm talking Georgia just built a rank. Well, Penn State, it wasn't Penn State. Penn State's in the Frozen Four, which we're taping right before. But they were a club hockey team, what, six years ago? No, I think they've been D1 like, I think, like over 10 years. Oh, OK. But it was like it started that UNLV club team beat Denver this year

Most of these schools like I'm talking Georgia, Tennessee UNLV. They have three teams They have 120 kids come to tryouts and then it's competitive to now it's gone to the point where Hockey players that are leaving high school no matter, unless you are one of these, you know, possibly NHL future studs, you have to play junior for two, if not three years to play D3 hockey. D3! You gotta go play junior for two years. Really? Yeah! Crazy! So now what it's turning into is like kids like, I don't really want to go play in the North American League or the

British Columbia Hockey League, be a 21 year old freshman, I'm gonna go play club hockey. And it's turned into something where, I mean there are 5,000 people watching Georgia club hockey. Do you think we will get? The students don't know. Yeah, do you think we'll get a club hockey to NHL guy at some point? Cause that would be the most,

that's the story that we're gonna put it on the next step. That is the next step. What it would be is, what it would be is a club hockey kid takes the step to a varsity team Yeah, you know I mean it wouldn't be like a pro deal out of club hockey What about a guy that like gets kicked off of his varsity team has some issues. He's like fuck it I'll just play club

He was already a guy that they had their eyes on and then he goes to the league possible possibly that that's a great Yeah, like cuz cuz you know if we're talking about Ovi breaking records and his record being broken, there's going to be some club hockey player that plays in the NHL. Yeah, some kid who was decent in high school but then maybe got bigger or stronger or faster played club hockey and everyone's like, holy shit, who is this kid? A guy I know at home, his son was a good high school hockey player but didn't want to do the grind of junior hockey. And, and so he went out and they visited Oklahoma State

and there was a 500 person line to get out into the arena three hours before the game. That's incredible. And it's like, that is so sick because not only is it, you get to enjoy college a little more cause it's not like that serious. It's still serious. Right. As dumb as that sounds people watching. You still have your teammates and and I think like I've talked to some club the Georgia club hockey team I ran into at my brother's

bachelor party which was at a Georgia game and they were like the girls think we're like fucking be you know like there's four thousand people at the game. These guys are pro hockey players. Has there ever been an emergency backup goalie that got a contract? No, no. Because it's always like, I mean that's an all time Leafs thing right there. Their backup goalie beat them. I'm sorry, their Zamboni driver beat them. Yeah, yeah.

For the Hurricanes. But no, the third string goalie thing is still a funny story because there's a lot of people who want it banned where you're allowed to. Why? I know. It's the coolest thing. It's a story. Every happens once a year maybe, and for that week you get to talk about it.

And it can only happen in hockey. Exactly. Because you couldn't have it in like the NBA where it's like, oh yeah, we got a backup guy who's got to go in and run around with these guys. We got Max. Yeah, right. You get like, hockey's because it's goalie is the only thing that you could in and run around. Yeah. Right. You get like hockey's because it's goalie is the only thing that you could possibly do it in. Yeah. All right. I got one last

question row back question. I love CK. Dot com promo code take 20 percent off your first purchase Q. Zips Polos hoodies joggers shorts row back dot com promo code take. Always great having went on. Go tune into spitting chiclets all to have to play off. They do live streams as well. We might have to get our boy Oldie on one of the live streams. Maybe get him just for a period. How about Yaron's giving you Oldie? Dude, he's the best. He's my favorite guy. And it was funny because when you came out with the video or whatever it was, we need a Canadian, Keith sent us right away to the Chicklets chat. He's like, I have the perfect human being for them. And then it was exactly how he described it.

Do you know he texts me like maybe like once every like three days just like a morning like pumping me up texts. And he's on a garbage truck. Yeah, yeah. Like he like yesterday when we started the mini golf he's like you got this like you're a champion. I was like no, I'm not. I also love the fact and I don't know Rick Nash super well

But like you know friendly with them and he's so quiet and calm and they're best friends Yeah, dude this how like how are you two best friends? He was facetiming with Nash when he did the first stream with us like in the in-between periods and I and he was like Say hi to Nash And so I started talking to him and Nash said that he had more texts that night than the night that he won the gold medal. He was like, this is fucking crazy. Everyone knows Oldie.

Yance said, what did he say? Oh, Yance doesn't have Twitter. And I'm like, dude, Oldie gets numbers. Yeah. What do you mean? I'm like, dude, he has like over 1,000 likes on him. Yeah. He does.

He goes, he's electric. Yeah. I know. We're signing him. Are you? Yeah. I love it. I mean, he's not going to move here, but he's going to get paid to do stuff and then come here every now and then. Cause like, I don't want them to just do it for free.

So it's like, yeah, we're signing him. And he's the exact same way when he's not here. Like when he's texting us, he's the same dude. There's no act. There's no act at all. He's just high energy. Have you, did you know about his pouch before he came on with us? No, I think I sent you the pouch though. Right? Yes. Did you know about his pouch before he came on with us? No. You saw the pouch though, right? Yes. I only knew about Keith meeting him when he was dancing in front of the Rangers when his son was due or his daughter was due that day.

He's got to go. Hey, got to go. Boy's need it. Got to go. What are you going to say, Max? So he stayed up for Hank and I's Barstool After Dark the other night. 4 AM, we finished.

And then he tweeted something three hours later from the job site. He's just like what an animal. He was like paying paying to have his like super chats right aloud. Yeah. To hype up me and Hank when we were just like oldie you can just text like we have your number. Yeah. You don't have to pay. And like oldie like your work. You're on the truck in like two hours, go to bed. Yeah. No, he's built differently. Yeah, he's just like, he's kind of just like natural cocaine. Was he boozing at the game, at the stream of the four nations?

No. No, that's just his blood. No, he also said he's like, I've never tried cocaine, I know that I'd run through walls if I did it. And I was like, yeah, you're probably right, Oldie. That's smart. Bad idea. Or he'd just fall asleep.

Yeah, yeah. Walls. Then. All right, my last question though is, Masters, do you probably right oldie. It's like bad idea. Or he'd just like fall asleep. Yeah, yeah. And fall to his knees. Then. All right, my last question though is Masters. Do you have one or two golfers that you root for? Like that are your guys? Yeah, I root for Ludwig.

Okay. Ever since he's come on the scene, he's just kind of like, I don't know, like perfect golf swing and I like him a lot. And then I've been so back and forth with Rory, which I feel like a lot of golf fans have been based on like he's made comments that are like just kind of a clown comment but then he comes out like changes his tune it's all live

related but as much as I sometimes say like oh fuck Rory if he had a one-shot lead on the 18th tee like I know I'd be be rooting for even if he was playing with Ludwig like for some reason and I think part of it is like the history thing with Ovi, like I think five guys have won the Grand Slam in golf. Like I'd like to be able to say I watched that. Yeah. And I don't know, I think Rory just.

He's hot right now, he's 300 through nine. Nice, and he just, I don't know, it's like crazy. So do you know that when Tiger won the US Open on the broken leg and then he didn't win another major after his life fell apart till the Masters in 19, Rory is at the same length of time between a major. No way. That's crazy. That's crazy.

The Tiger layoff felt a lot longer. And Rory has been healthy the whole time and his wife didn't catch him cheating and beat him with a nine iron. Like it's almost like there was like excuses with Tiger. Yeah. So to see if Rory could like do it again, it'd be a pretty amazing just sports story. But it's also really funny when he loses. Yeah, because I know he's like, if he blows it, you're like, this guy can't do it anymore. I think I would if you were

if you were like on the 18th, like about to putt it in to win, I'd be like, that's pretty cool. But if there was any chance that he could blow it I think I'd still be rooting for him. It's like you're rooting against him but then when he doesn't it's like what a tremendous story. If he had a five footer Sunday to win it and if he misses it he loses it. I think I'd root for it too. Which I guess doesn't make sense because if he made it. Yeah or like what if he had a five footer to win or he goes to a playoff.

You're rooting for the playoff. I would be rooting for the playoff. So you don't like them. Yeah, I guess I don't I don't like them. I don't have any reason not to like him It's more just his react like the driving off and stuff like this. Yeah, I don't hate the driving I didn't I don't have any problem with it I want more of it like I wanted to lose so I get to keep seeing it The best part was the golf writers that were like, he sped off and he- Oh, loser, loser. He spun out. Did they get upset about it? We're not upset about it. We think that it's

funny. In fact, the golf writers are getting upset about it. So we want more content like that. We had his back in that whole situation, but I would love to just keep replaying it. You like watching it happen? Yeah, where he just keeps speeding off. I know. And then for some reason like I've actually Sherped Bryson DeChambeau before on Chicklets, but like now I find myself I know route for him, too He's I mean YouTube just like changes whole like I think that it's it's been said at least like he legit hired a PR for yeah absolutely, which is so to me like

You know like to be such a dickhead that you have to hire someone and be like, make me not a dickhead. How weird is that? Yeah. Make people like me? How much of a weirdo are you? How can I get people to like me? How can I get people to check every six weeks to his make me not a dickhead people?

And then you know, oh, they like me now, but I didn't know what to do to make them like me. I had to pay somebody to help me. Yeah, you got to keep paying them in case, because if you get get rid of them then what happens if you slip up and you're a Dicky rich kid at school like paying kids to hang out with them Yeah, I do have one last hockey question for you. Do you don't have an MVP vote, right? I last year I I had a vote. Do you have one this year? He has not asked me again, but he didn't ask me last year till like two days before the regular season ended

So I might who should the MVP should have been for this year I'm an Oilers guy and Leon dry sidle is just to me been the best player in the league the most valuable player to The Oilers McDavid's had this great year still but not McDavid and then he's leading the league in goals by a lot You know, they recently had an enormous game against Cal. McDavid's out. He'd been out injured. He comes back two goals in an assist including the game tying game-winning goal. It's like he's just to me the the best player but recently Kucherov is now... I voted for Kucherov last year instead of McKinnon. McKinnon won because Kucherov last year became the fourth winger I think ever to have a hundred assists. or fourth player ever to have a hundred assists.

And then McDavid did it like a week later. But I was like, Kucherov's just so dominating. And now it's like, you really can argue for McKinnon, Kucherov, and Dreisaitl. There's a right answer there on all of them. But mom, Leon. My vote would be McDavid. I'm just a big McDavid fan.

I guess you're not as big of a fan. He's in the league, he's the MVP. He's always torturing us. I'm just a big McDavid fan. I am so I guess you're not as big Always torture I I've been told he's the best hockey player in the history of the game of all time But he's not even the MVP for this year. I on his team. I was crazy seven wait That's crazy that game seven who won the Panthers Oh and I was sitting there and all I was thinking about was you Literally as the fucking national anthem was playing. I was like those assholes I'm gonna have a tweet Video and I already knew he had the con Smythe wrapped up. Uh-huh, and I was like they have nothing on me Yeah, and we just went through this whole episode and you said nothing to the very end. I you know

It's fucked up though. You guys are the biggest losers. It's kind of like the Rory thing We won the exhibition. I love watching Connor McDavid play hockey, but because of you I have to be like, he's a choker. You could be watching history and instead you're like, catch a rut, fall over. This happens with friends. You get stuck in an argument and you're just like, I got my side, you got yours. You've forced me, based on how you've handled this McDavid situation to hope that the Bears and Caleb Williams. I didn't care about the Bears. Now I hate

them. That's true friendship. And now it's like you fucking asshole. I can't even say Connor McDavid is good. McDavid is so good. I don't think he's good. He's the second most valuable player on his own team. Yeah. And he's, you know, he's almost one a cop. You know, not Gretzky. Gretzky didn't win the MVP every year. Yeah. I would have voted for him every year. Gretzky won a cup, right? Gretzky won four. Oh, but McDavid. McDavid doesn't have one yet. He won the exhibition. He won the exhibition. He gets the ice. I don't know if they can get it done this year either. It doesn't look like this is the year. All right. So Stanley Cup finals prediction, teams and winner.

the year. All right. So Stanley Cup finals prediction teams and winner. Colorado, Toronto, Colorado beats them. That's some sick stuff. Be an awesome series. Yeah. And, and that's, if only I'm saying that is if Florida and Tampa play in the first round, because I don't think Toronto can beat one of those teams unless that they kick the shit out of each other first that's interesting because I just have a bunch of like side notes here got it because I just looked up leafs vs. caps this year leafs won one game lost two against the caps I know I think that's interesting you know what when the caps win it all you can just call me follow me on Twitter bet I just see Ryan Whitney has refollowed me on Twitter. We can you are now blind never ever Purposely on Florida Florida Toronto classic North South battle. Yes, Civil War. Yeah

Toronto Colorado to Southern teams All right, thanks alright, thanks, Whit. Thanks, guys. Ryan Whitney is brought to you by Truly Unruly Lemonade. Truly Unruly Lemonade combines the high-alk fun of Truly Unruly with everyone's favorite lemonade. Level up your lemonade, 8% ABV, 100% delicious. I'm going to say that again. It's 8% ABV. These things are not joking around and they're delicious.

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Hank, firefests of the week. Nothing crazy this week. No real firefests. The masters is on playing golf this weekend. My only real like firefests in quotes would just be just be the the we had mini golf tournament here this week And just you know getting screamed at by everybody hates you everybody hating me my boss You know telling me to suck my co-workers cock like that's kind of fun. I don't know that I did not that's good leadership Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean you are the Whether you want to be or not you are always at the center of this because you are the

You're in charge of mini golf. That's kind of like your thing mini golf You look like you were in a bad bad way yesterday though, and actually I don't wait a second Did you did you say that Kirk Minhan was your boss? No Dave Dave told? Tank to suck curse got it. Okay got it. Yeah Yeah, you you predicted it. I mean it was a match between me Kirk Whitney and Dave and you're like I was like how you feeling about mini golf and you just said point-blank I'm dreading your match because you four are the worst and I was like, I don't really disagree So yeah, and then it happened, but you handled it. Well, yeah, I thought I thought it all worked out

I mean Dave hit the worst part of all time But that's what I'm saying It's I think some people kind of similar to the max and me thing and this show the show's probably prepared me for Being in non-stop arguments all the time, but yeah, it seems like it's contentious, but it's not doesn't feel that contentious No, it's just guys yelling at each other in the moment though you you know I was like yelling in Dave's face at one point. Yeah, I didn't I didn't really a lot of like I'm gonna walk off I quit and it never happens. We just keep playing

Yeah, I felt bad for you in the moment because you looked like you were going through I was like that one wants me to pull out a magical rule book That doesn't exist right and half the people are gonna hate you actually everyone's gonna hate you no matter what yeah, it's alright It is also Whenever we do we haven't done the yeah, yeah, this might be speaking way too soon Whenever we do any bar Well, we'll see. We haven't done the final. Yeah, yeah. This might be speaking way too soon. Whenever we do any Barstool competition of any kind, you could spend a year, let's say a year, going through all the plans, the preparations, the rules, everything. Within one hour, one of us will find a loophole and be like, this is bullshit.

It's just, it's impossible. Like you could have Gene Steritor creating airtight rules and we'll find a scenario where there isn't actually a definition for the rule and now we can figure out a way to try to, you know, capitalize. Nothing. The rule books is a dog can't play basketball. Yeah, it's mini golf, but then people will be like, well, USGA, like, yeah, right. Well, it's mini golf. Right. Right. But it's fun. Yeah, it has been fun. It's beenGA, like, yeah, right. Well, it's mini golf. Right. Right. But it's fun. Yeah, it has been fun. It's been great. Great content. Great vibes. Yeah.

PFT. I was at the gym this morning. It's happened like two hours ago, two and a half hours ago. And after the gym, I'm going to come into work. So what do you do after you work out and you sweat for a little bit, you go into the locker room and you take a shower, right? I'm just making sure I'm not crazy. Yeah, no, that's, that's absolutely what you do. That's what you do. Not always, but most times it will get Joey swollen the case ask him, but I'm pretty sure you're supposed to shower before you put your clothes on and go back to work for sure. So I, uh, I go in the locker room. I've got my towel. I'm at my locker. There's two other people in the

locker room. One guy is about, I'd say 25, 30 feet away for me to my right. I'm at my locker. There's two other people in the locker room. One guy is about I'd say 2530 feet away to for me to my right. The other guys behind me maybe like six or seven feet behind me. He's got headphones on the other guy doesn't. So I come in, take my clothes off. And when I take my clothes off and change in the gym, I am I'm locked in straight ahead. I'm not what I'm not a guy that wanders. I don't put my leg up on anything. Close off, towel on.

Question. Yep. You are, when you close off, are you doing like the towel on and then taking off your boxers? Are you nude at any point? Yeah, you take your boxers off and then you put the towel on. Right, I didn't know. Some people, you can wrap the towel around

and then you just slip off your boxers, but yeah. No, I'm not. So there's a moment where you're nude, where it's like you're facing your locker. Yeah. Maybe a little your ass is showing. Then you put the towel on, then you go. Exactly. I'm not, I'm not facing all checks. I'm not, I'm not turned around facing the center of the locker room. I'm, I always face cause you know, old guys love to just, they they'll put the towel over their shoulder just so that they can flop

their balls in your face. They'll have a conversation. Right. They'll go up to the hairdryer, put their leg on the counter and blow dry their balls. Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah. So, uh, close off, towel on. Then I hear this guy about 25 feet away from me. He's the guy to my right. And he starts yelling and he's like, bro, what the fuck are you doing? And I'm just like straight ahead. I'm like, he's not talking to me. I'm just minding my own business, getting ready to change or getting ready to shower, bro. What the fuck are you doing? What the fuck is this gay shit? Bro, you're gonna shower with the fuck put your clothes back on There's some gay shit and then after like, I don't know five seconds ten seconds of him yelling

I finally look up. I'm like, is he yelling at me? And he's staring at me, and this dude is fucking pissed off. Like, huge scowl on his face. He looks like he's about to come kick my ass. Jacked? No, he's like a medium-sized guy. But you would have gotten your ass kicked just because you- I was naked.

Yeah, you're naked. Or- You immediately lose footing. Or, if you're naked, a good strategy in this situation might be just like, take the towel off, because nobody wants to fight a naked guy, right? So the guy's just yelling I mean, I'm looking around like is this me the other guy who's there? I looked at him like is this really happening? He's got his headphones on he has no idea any of this is happening

So the guy starts to walk towards me. He's like take that fucking gay shit out of here That's gay shit, bro, and he just walks out, but he looks like he's like stewing. He's like shaking. He's so mad. Whoa. So then he walks out. And then I'm thinking to myself, like, is this guy going to wait for me out in the gym? Are you still naked?

And kick my ass? Did you cover up? I had a towel on. OK. Your towel on. Like, my ass wasn't out. But he was mad at me that I took my clothes off to shower after the gym.

And then for a second, in that situation, I'm like, am I doing something wrong? Yeah, that's crazy I this is when I wish we could Like scour all the little podcasts out there and find this guy telling the other side of the story He was like this dude was just fucking balls out in my face. No, he was Honestly, 25 feet away from me. No, that's crazy. Then and so the old was he I'm gonna guess like mid-20s Oh So I think he's going through some so I had a couple theories on this guy one He's probably gay. He's probably very very closeted. Mm-hmm because again, we're 25 feet away

I'm minding my own business. This guy had to actively look at me Right while I was changing to get pissed off, right? He could if he didn't want to see anything He could have gone like this Right turned his head five degrees So then then I got all in my head because I thought am I doing something wrong? And then I thought if this guy comes back in here and kicks my ass Then he's going to like and gets caught then he will file a police report being like this fucking gay guy in the locker Room was trying to come on to me, and I'm like going through all these weird scenarios in this guy's mind, right? But it was it was weird when I went out to the parking lot. I was like looking around for him

I was like this guy waiting to kick my ass in the parking lot. That's crazy. So yeah, I was I'd really do I love Joey swole love his content. He's the best Joey. I need you to weigh in on this Am I out of line should, is it gay as shit to shower after you work out? Wow. That's insane. Bizarre. Very bizarre. Very strange. So I thought, I thought one, either this guy is like very

repressed in his homosexuality. Was I looking good? Yeah, I was just saying like it's kind of like your fault for being so hot. Well, that after about like 30 minutes I thought about it, I was like, man that guy wanted to fuck me. That's, I guess that's, that's better than him not wanting to fuck me. Yeah.

Uh, and then I got to the office. I told Mooc about it cause I was like a little shaken up. He's like, well, were you, were you hanging dong? And I was like, no, man, I'd work out dick. I had like a very bad dick. Right, right. So I don't, I don't know what this guy was going through, but kind of, it shook me up a little bit this morning. I was like I rightfully so did I did I? Am I wrong to shower after using the gym that's now it's got now. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be scared to shower next time

Yeah, wow does he look like a guy that's never played a sport in his life No, he's he was relatively athletic because that's where it's like how can you get to that age? Right and experience a locker room. I Can imagine if you're on a team when there's 20 dudes doing the same thing right about super gay. Yeah. Yeah Gays thing you can do is play sports. I just never seen anyone else in the locker room Yeah, I think that's the first time that guy's ever been to a gym. Yeah like a locker room Period. Yeah, he locker room. Period. He looked like he was in decent shape though. That's that, cause I thought about that Max, like maybe there's a different environment for him.

But that's wild. I don't know. Yeah. That is wild. Maybe. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's a bizarre, bizarre, bizarre thing. I think your ass just looked really good. I think it did. I was doing the only thing that makes sense. I was squatting heavy this morning. I might have been as Hank would say looking right. Yeah, you were looking right. All right, my firefests. I've already talked about a couple of them, but when I went to San Antonio, I for the first time ever I got heat induced vomit, which that was crazy. I just we did

a live show and I puked right after just because it was too hot and then I was fine. But that had never happened to me in my life. And then also I took a shit in a bathroom, a women's bathroom in a hotel lobby for 15 minutes while watching the Cubs game. That was also a mistake. Oh, that was an accident. I was locked in on the Cubs game.

I was waiting for my hotel room. I had to take a shit. So I had my head down watching the Cubs game and I just walked to the bathroom and I didn't look up And then I took a shit and I was in the stall for 15 minutes got out of the stall and was like There's no urinals in here and then realized I just been in the women's bathroom But it wasn't like a Creed brat moment where you're like, no, this is the one weird thing I do I do that here at this office this off

I use the women's bathroom here at this office. Were there any other women in there at the time? I don't know I had my headphones in because I was listening to the game while I was watching it But 15 minutes is a pretty long time. So I would imagine I did not but when you came out. Yeah That never happened. Yes, I never happened I imagine if there was a woman in there at the same time and they were like going pee They would know the sound they'd be like that a man shit. Yeah, that's a man. Yeah. Yeah.

So yeah, those two things happened and then my real fire fest is just, mini golf, Hank thinks that it's, he's in torture having to deal with the rules. I'm in torture because I'm just a choke artist and I know I'm gonna choke. We're taping this before. I'm just, I did it. I hate this.

Yeah, don't say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hate that attitude. That's when you start to fuck up. Big Cat, we- I'm a mental, like, I'm a mental pussy. You're a defeatist. Yesterday, we had an incredible comeback. I know, I know.

You don't do that if you're a choke artist. You have to ride off that high. It's just, I'm always like, I think it really comes out of the fact that I don't, well, I don't really perform well under pressure in general, but also I'm, I don't golf enough. So I know mini golf is not real golf, but I don't really have like a putting routine. So I have nothing to fall back on. So the minute it goes bad once it just stays bad. Why don't you just give yourself a routine?

Yeah. What are you supposed to do for a putting routine? Take deep breaths in and out? Okay, and then step up Give a little ass wiggle put the putter behind the ball Deep breath in deep breath out putt all right Jack Jack the Klaus I was watching a video where he was he was talking about like he would feel nervous And then he would you know see the crowd and be like these people are here having a great time They're here to watch me like Let's give him something to roof. Okay. What if we, what if we, thousands are

going to be watching tonight. They want to see you do well. Okay. Okay. What do you think about lying? What if we line up the line up the ball every time? I like that. You know, something Max shout out Max. He was doing a great job as my caddy. I just, is it, this isn't like a, this mini golf tournament. This has happened in every mini golf tournament that we've done where I'm, I do well. And then as soon as it's time to make like a big pot, it's like, Whoa, you're a mess. The funniest was watching the highlights from yesterday and all the clips that were coming out.

You could see how, how much pressure we felt in those moments. And then you look down and it's like a two foot putt on a mini golf course. Mini golf. You guys, it was crazy. I was watching you guys from above and I was like I've never seen both of them like they Like this is a mini golf and they're both like I said all business mini golf is the dumbest sport ever and I say That I love playing it, but it's the most frustrating thing in the world because you We take it very seriously if If you miss a shot in mini golf,

it's almost always like an easy shot that everyone is watching. So not only is it a shot that everyone could say, I could have hit that, but then you look up and it's like a big fucking, you missed a shot because there's a big fucking statue of Ryan Whitney's head next to you. Like it just, the whole thing is so silly.

And then we take it seriously. So yeah, you know what? You're right, Max. I'm going to win today. We're going to play well. PFT and I are on the same team. PFT and I, I mean that was a great comeback. That was awesome. There is actually each other. There's real pressure though, when you're doing alternate shot because you don't want to let down your team. You don't want to fuck your teammate over. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I don't want to let my boy down, but we did have an incredible comeback. We were down

three with four to play. By the way, how many many I think there's just a lot of people who don't understand how like this style of play works because We were just getting accused left and right of having a crazy celebration for a tie When you're down three with four to play and you somehow get a tie out of it That's and it you hear tie. You guys got points on the board. Yeah. Which is like the team is the team is trying to get to 12 and a half points. So contributing a half point is significant.

Right down three and four and you get a tie out of it. We won that tie. That tie was a choke by them. That was a massive. Yeah, that was a huge tie. Huge choke by them. Huge, huge. Yeah, it was great Pft. I that we shocked the world. I kept on yeah, that's that's the other thing is like We're playing mini golf and I just kept on muttering to PFT. Let's shock the world No one thinks you're hitting no, I know irony is your let's get crazy Like let's yo yo

How long did that round take? Like 40 minutes? Yeah. Like an hour. I think that was probably the least funny me and Big Cat have been together at any point in our entire lives. No jokes. So serious. No joke.

It was the Olympics. We were just, every time, good shot. Locked, stay locked in. Let's shock the world. I watched it back. I was like, like you really did say let's shock the world in a mini golf match. That's serious Oh my god, but it's so fun. It is really fun cuz it's just you I think I think the way When some people are like you guys take this too seriously. I think that's the fun part That's like if you don't care and I care if you don't care. It's not fun to watch Yeah, you want people to want to care about it that much to a like sick level

Especially when it's like two days and like like you said like you might not pick up a putter for a year But then for two days, it's like every putt. It's the most important part of my life. Yeah. Yes Yes the personality that big cat and I showed in that is the complete and polar opposite of everything we've ever done on camera ever. We literally, our entire existence is to make fun of everything and not take things seriously. Yeah. And take everything with a grain of salt. And then we're, let's shock the world. Let's do something great. Let's do something they'll be talking about for years.

You're Your beast. Let's write our... I said to Nick, I said to Nick who's on the call, I threw my putter after you hit a huge putt to get us down one with two to play. I threw my putter across the entire court and Nick was like, what just happened? I was like, I kind of blacked out and then I just said, I'm trying to rewrite my story. Let's write our names in the history books. Also, that putt that you're talking about, that you just said, like the huge putt, it was, I think, a foot and a half. I think it was a foot and a half long mini golf putt. I'm trying to rewrite the story about me as a putter.

There's tough foot and a half putts in there. Yeah, there are. I mean, I was, I didn't get a full backswing. The wall was close. Oh, we're're gonna win. We got a win. Also me and Hank did a little mini tournament before and Hank absolutely choked Oh, he did show literally choked. Is that true? What were you up? We were up like three might have been three with four to go or something Oh, and then and then I just had me and max had like a ten foot straight putt That one of us had to hit we both missed 20 times so I had every opportunity but then but then I hit it

It's fine. It's fun Who golf who out of out of you guys? watching Who do you think golfs more me or Hank? Well, I I thought I hate it But then I saw you putt and I was like, this guy fucking golfs. Yep. Yeah. I mean, just by watching the little that I watched of that stream, I would say Max probably golfs like six times more than Hank. I think we actually probably have to put Max on a pip for how much he golfs.

Wrong. Hank actually golfs a lot and I never golf. But Max, you have a membership to a country club. No, Hank has the membership to a country club. But you love mini golf so much that you set up this entire tournament to make the whole office play mini golf, Max. No, Hank set up this tournament. Oh. That's crazy.

That's nuts. But I won. Wait, so Hank set up the holes that you played on and you still beat him? That is correct. Holy fuck. And he was Hank Rockwood. He was switching the rocks around to benefit him. Oh, Hank Rockwood. The chat was saying Hank Rockwood. He was switching the rocks around

The chat was in Hank Rockwood, they were doing a great job, that's great. I was chipping at one point All right, good show boys. I'm not happy with the chipping SVP Monday masters recap Let's finish off number three. She peedP and Max. Yeah, shout out SVP and Max. That was the loudest memes has ever been on this show. He wants three so bad. But sometimes you don't want seven. I was gonna say 77. I'll go one. I'm gonna go 67.

I'll go 56. 99 pokes. I hope Max will. 99 POG. I hope Max won. 15. 21. Hey, what you got? What do you got? 77.

77. I'm Max Holman. Yeah, me too. 12! Ooh. Fuck 12. Not even close, memes. Love you guys. I'm gonna be a good boy So I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star

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