Pardon My Take - Ryen Russillo, Mt Rushmore Of Best Feelings, Hank Lit The Lighthouse And Preseason Hype

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

Hank is back and we get the full recap of his big day as keeper of the lighthouse. Patrick Mahomes is not fair. We talk preseason football and Simone Biles jacket (00:00:00-00:37:21). Who’s back of the week and we may have found the Busters guy (00:37:21-00:48:22). Ryen Russillo joins us in person on the RV to talk everything, including the untold BVT stories (00:48:22-01:46:11). We finish with Mt Rushmore of best feelings (01:46:11-02:09:35).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Lighthouse royalty. The keeper of the light. We are with the keeper of the light slash Belle. Henry Lockwood is back in studio. Hank, I don't know, should we bow to you? I mean, are you a sir? Are you? Kirksey? Yeah, are you a knight?

I'm a keeper. You're a keeper, you're officially a keeper. I don't think a knight would light the light, right? No, well he didn't. Are you a knight? I'm a keeper your keeper. You're officially a keeper I don't think a knight would light the light right? No. Well, he didn't you break the night either did he that's true You kept the light. So where's the light? Do you have it right now? Yeah, is it still on it is still on? Okay I think you just keep it inside you. Yeah, always you have that light this little light of yours So you so tell everyone because you know We talked about briefly when we taped our Mount Rushmore on Wednesday that people were listening to but we didn't get the full recap of you keeping the light slash ringing the bell and also

maybe sprinkle in a little Matthew Judon. Yeah Matthew Judon that happened the day after we recorded he did get traded. I mean he's a little bit older he wasn't probably going to run. Good speaking talking points. Yeah it it's good. If the, if the Patriots, you know, have a top five pick, God knows how that would happen. Uh, then they're going to have, you know, five draft picks and in the top one 50, I think. Yeah. I thought you said that and that's how you rebuild. I thought you said ongoing talks were productive and good. I think that, but they realize it's probably best for both parties to trade them. So it was good. You know, everybody's happy. Yeah, everyone's super happy. This is actually the best thing It's ever happens the draft cut off usually 150. Is that where we're top 150?

I can't think like halfway through the fourth round. No good players have ever been picked past 150 Especially not with the Patriots, but five and out of 150 is good Yeah, is this this was a talking point with do they give you a little sheet being like here's how we're gonna spin this No, it was you know people are obviously like that was the day of people were a little bummed out But no, it was an amazing experience Got there early. We got to go on the field pregame save one warm-up, and then they brought us I how long did it take to go from the field to the lighthouse? You had to go all the way up. Yeah, we went old-school stare. No skin

It was it was cool. They brought us up the elevator It's really tall so it took a while Yeah, but like when you're you know, it's kind of like it was a really really really tall elevator It's really yes all White House Oh, what do you have a little announcer thing kind of like a tour guide like you're in a Disney World or you know? A theme park or like oh, so it's like a virtual tour where they say Welcome to the largest lighthouse in the continental U.S., which is a nice touch. Because I looked on the website and it's interesting because they have quotes around the word lighthouse. But that was actually really nice because what he just said right there, it's basically

Disney World. It's like going to Vegas and seeing the Eiffel Tower. Yeah, it's like Space Mountain isn't really a mountain. Yeah, right. But people love Space Mountain. Right. No. Listen, we're not saying there's not love. It's just like, it's more of an attraction than a lighthouse. Yeah, it's a lighthouse simulator. Right. So Hank, I got to ask- It's a representation of the region. You went on a ride. I got to ask you, from the top of the lighthouse, you had a pretty good view. And I got to say, the double fist pump that you gave to the crowd was incredible and it seemed like they were eating out of the Palm. Oh my God. They were. It was like the parade all over

again. Were you thinking at any point on core because it felt like the fans wanted an encore of you ringing the bell. We can't unring the bell. Let's ring it once. It's kind of wrong. But it like it. If you notice people weren't leaving. Yeah. They were like sitting there like, come on, we want more. Well, it was a beautiful moment. You guys, you know, obviously are making jokes, but it was, we're on the way there. I said, I got a real sports. It was basically a hurricane going on in Foxborough before we showed up where we're driving in, there's lightning, there's thunder, it's dark. You can barely see on the road. And as we're going up the lighthouse, driving in, there's lightning, there's thunder, it's dark, you can barely see on the road.

And as we're going up the lighthouse, the sun emerged from the clouds, the sun came out, the skies got bright. I said that already. Obviously, because of the rain, the fans hadn't got there yet because it was such bad weather. They were probably needing a light

to guide them into the stadium. Preseason game. And it hadn't started yet. So yeah, they said, you're gonna ring the bell three times and turn around and into the stadium. Preseason game. And it hadn't, it hadn't started yet. So yeah, they said, you know, you're going to ring the bell three times and turn around and face the crowd. And it was, it was, I started laughing. I think you couldn't really see my face. It was so funny. And I instinctively did this. Yeah. And I heard like, I heard, I just saw seats and I heard like one, you know, there was a rogue clapper. There was a lot of AWLs there for the amount of limited amount of people there, there was a good amount of AWLs.

So thank you for shouting me out when you were there. The behind the scenes clip you posted on your Instagram was so funny because it was like ringing the bell and then kind of silence and then someone behind, maybe it was one of your friends just started clapping. And it was kind of like a Jeb Bush please clap moment. Whereas like we got to do something here. Everybody wants to know though Hank you get up to the top of the lighthouse you look at I'm sure you looked for a federally recognized body of water. Yep. Did you find one? There was trees were in full bloom. Yeah. So I think

the Nippon River was you could see through it a little bit but it was pretty blocked by the trees. So you couldn't see it. Got it. Because I would imagine that if you had seen the river you would have taken like nine pictures of the river and been like look. It was also really still foggy from the rain. Well I think the sun came out. Yeah but there was still some lingering fog so you couldn't really see too far out because of the fog. So you could see the sun though? Yeah. But not the trees. But like seeing far enough, you know, there's so much fog. Sun's really far away. Yeah. Did it? No, someone's behind us. But, Oh, did any boats crash in the stadium while you were up there? Nope. Nope. I kept it. Well, I kept it. Well, did

you, did you get the vibe that maybe you're going to be invited back for a regular season game? Yeah, I think that was a good first step. I think, you know, I talked to the Patriots after. Yeah, the Patriots were, they were amazing. They rolled out the red carpet. I thanked them the next day. They said, you were a great keeper of the light. Okay. One of the funnier moments was, you know,

a very official woman came up with a very official, like, big book. She's like, we need you to sign this. All the keepers of the light sign it. And it went through, there's only been 10, or I think I was the 10th. Oh. Like, oh, Tom Brady. Tom Brady was the first one Kenny Chesney James White Oh my like you know the team that won the state championship

And I was just laughing thinking about like two years from now. Yeah, there's actually you know a famous person Who's not really familiar obviously and they're going through that list and they're gonna make oh yeah They're just gonna like flip through my, like Henry Lockwood, and then- Did you write Make-A-Wish underneath it? No, there actually was another Make-A-Wish kiss in one of the, he was one of the 10. So when you say there was another Make-A-Wish, you're admitting that you were Make-A-Wish. It was, yeah, I mean, listen, it was a very cool moment. I didn't, you know, I didn't- Summer Hank keeps going.

Yeah, it was surreal. It was very surreal. I didn't feel like I necessarily deserved it, but it was cool. They announced me, they said, you know, I didn't. Summer Hank keeps going. Yeah, it was surreal. It was awesome. It was very surreal. I didn't feel like I necessarily deserted, but it was cool. They announced me, they said, you know, please welcome part of my take, Brady Four. Like that was a very cool moment. Love it. And yeah, it was, it was sick.

Like the pictures- It's your world. The pictures will last forever. And I think I did a good job. And you know- Oh, you crushed it. As things go along, like they're obviously gonna, you know, go through the roster of all the famous, you know, celebrity, Patriot fans. But eventually they're gonna have to go back to the well and they might gonna go through the roster of all the famous, you know, celebrity Patriot fans, but eventually they're gonna have to go back to the well and they might

just look through the book. Yeah, who's number 10? Yeah, let's bring him back. We know he can do the job. Yeah, it's very good, Hank. It's very, it's a prestigious honor. I'm looking through the list of people here that have been asked to keep the light and it's like a general from the army.

Dante Scarnecchia was asked to do it. What is Kenny Chesney? What's his connection? Because I feel like Kenny Chesney is just the guy that they invite whenever they need a celebrity sports fan to show up regardless of team. He does Country Fest there every year. Like he's a big, I'm sure he's friends with the Crafts, but that's always like a big concert at Gillette. And I think he is a Patriots fan. They just didn't have, Oh, he might've done it. He might've done it for, I think

he did it second. He might've done it for Army Navy for game day. No, he was second. He was the second up there. So it's Tom. He did it first on the 10th. Then Kenny Chesney did it on the 17th. I feel like Kenny Chesney does three different college game days. Yeah. Did you guys win? We did not when they also I will say they said the person up top, the person who was, you know, stationed up there, they said Kenny Chesney was really nervous and I was less nervous than him. Wow. Oh wow. You weren't even nervous. And another guy came up and said that was one of the hardest, as I was walking in, one of us was like, don't ring it too hard. And I was like, that just means I'm going to go eat a cheddar.

Yeah. He was basically daring you. So wait, the Eagles won? Eagles won. Eagles had a comeback, Victor. And I feel like Patriots fans, you're now experiencing phase two of Joe Milton. Yeah, was it phase two? It was a little bit of phase two. Hank doesn't remember. You don't remember. Were you drunk? No, he was living off the high of the lighthouse. Were you drunk when you rang that bell?

No, when I rang the bell. Got it. I did, you know, celebrate with a couple shandies after. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, Joe Milton, unfortunately. I mean, I'm still gonna get excited about Joe Milton because he's gonna make the Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, Joe Milton, unfortunately, I mean, I'm still going to get excited about Joe Milton because he's going to make the roster. Yeah. When he's good, he's great. You have more quarterbacks now. Okay. So great job, Hank. Thank you. Preseason marches on. We also had Patrick Mahomes should be in jail for being witchcraft because the back, the behind the back pass that he unveiled, just not fair. Yeah, I said that it should have been taunting running that play. Because Patrick Mahomes is now bored of football.

He's so good at football that he can't play like a normal quarterback because it's too easy for him. So he just ups the difficulty level. Now he's throwing behind the back passes. And now teams have to game plan for it. You gotta game plan for it. He did, he gave a quote after the game was over he said long story short sorry long story short Travis didn't run the route he was supposed to run and then it was kind of

behind the back pass because I was mad I was pissed off Travis so he ran the wrong route and then Mahomes threw it behind the back just to kind of like make it more difficult for him to catch the ball yeah and it ended up being one of the best plays overseas it was seen. It was so cool. It was so cool. He said, out of spite, I threw a behind the back pass. But now it's gonna be a highlight. Yeah, now it's gonna be a highlight.

Now it's gonna be something he'll do during game and now teams have to plan for it. And yeah, he's reached a level of like, fuck around with football that has never been seen before. Yeah, and then the camera pans to Carson Wentz on the sideline, just laughing and smiling. He's on the Chiefs? He's on the Chiefs. Oh, and then the camera pans to Carson Wentz on the sideline just laughing and smiling. He's on the Chiefs? He's on the Chiefs.

Oh, Huey, that's a big one. There's a good chance that Carson Wentz wins another Super Bowl. Yeah, also Randy Gregory not on the Bucks. Was he ever a Buck? He was. Todd Boles said after they decided that they're gonna cut him because he never showed up,

he said you can't miss what you never had. Yeah. Which is a great way to live life. He doesn't him because he never showed up. He said, you can't miss what you never had. Yeah. Which is a great way to live life. He doesn't know why he never showed up. I think he just didn't want to do the conditioning. Maybe. In which case, respect to Randy Gregory. I think that he'll probably just get added to the 49ers,

like halfway through the season, and be like, damn, look at the 49ers again. Yeah, that's probably what's going to happen. PFT, our quarterbacks. Still looking good. Yeah, so we were at a wedding on Saturday night. Our good friend our quarterbacks. Still looking good. Yeah. So we were at a wedding on Saturday night. Our good friend, Mark Titus, a good friend of the program got married.

And PFT was watching the game at the wedding. It's fucked up that he did that. What kind of an asshole gets married week two of the NFL preseason? At 6 PM when he knows that Jaden Daniels is going to be playing. Yeah. And I also got accused by my wife of peeking over at the game because I just like a moth to the flame. He was, PFT was sitting next to me and he just had the game up and I just kept on being

like, oh, football's on. Listen, I'm going to watch Jaden. I'm going to watch my new quarterback in the preseason. I did a bad job watching him. I was going to watch and then when he was out of the game, put the phone away, whatever happens, whatever, don't care. He looked good, but then there was one point in the second quarter, I had looked away from my phone for a while, I was being social or whatever at a wedding.

I lay him, yeah, big time man card move on my part. I look back at the screen, and I see the quarterback sprinting down the field, running away from everybody, I'm like, fuck yeah, Jaden is so good, Jaden is so good. And then he gets up and it was Jeff Driscoll. So I guess we got, I guess we got, we got like two Jadens now. That's incredible. I feel like Jeff Driscoll is sneaky Jaden. I also saw Jeff Driscoll, I believe already has started his second career. I don't know why. I think someone showed that they were connected to him on LinkedIn and he's already working

in the greater Florida area. Yeah, acquisition entrepreneur, NFL athlete, acquisition entrepreneur, SMB owner. Look for him. Not that, SMB. Yeah. Yeah. It's just very funny that a guy who's playing in the NFL right now has a full LinkedIn. Yeah, the start of a new Driscoll year.

Yeah. All right. Then my guy, Caleb Williams of a new Driscoll year. Yeah. All right, and then My guy Caleb Williams made a throw that made me feel things. Yeah, he's good We got quarterback. He was he started the game slow and The haters started piling on and I was like listen, it's good that I haven't overreacted to any preseason games or plays or throws and then he dropped that rollout to Roma doons a and I lost my mind and Went back to telling the haters to suck my dick from the back. Yeah, he was pretty good. Yeah, he was really really good I'm just very excited for week one

And I'm very excited to just get on the roller coaster and just have a fucking great ass time Yeah, I am starting to get nervous every time Jayden runs with the ball though because he doesn't slide Are we getting- We saw that at LSU when he gets hit. It is funny watching that compilation of Jayden Daniels getting hit in college. With like the Bugs Bunny music? Yeah, because it does look like Looney Tunes when he's playing. I would prefer for him to slide, and at one point he didn't slide.

And then Dan Quinn, Dan Quinn's hats have gotten more backwards since he became a head coach. He's gone further backwards? They're further backwards. I didn't know that was possible, but he's on the sidelines with his backwards hat, like jawing at Jaden after the play. I'm like, Dan Quinn's right. Listen to Dan Quinn. You're going to get hurt, Jaden.

Yeah. So I do have that history with quarterbacks where you get a really good mobile quarterback that can run. He's electric. And I just hope to God that we've done something different with the field. Because I don't think the Bears did anything different with their field. I saw so bad for the game. They had the scene. Metallica. Yeah. Metallica did it. Metallica did it. This is this is the this is what like every time I had a step forward in like man Ryan

polls put a great team together. Caleb Williams looks like the real guy and then you just get brought back down to reality where it's like, there's just reports that Ryan Pouls is walking the field looking at pointing out all the seams being like, this is not safe to play on because we're not a real franchise. Yeah. Metallica concert one week before the game. Yeah. That's tough. Yep. And they obviously, the Bears don't own Soldier Field, so they don't get to decide

what goes on there. But yeah, it's... I just want the season to start. I know that we've talked privately, PFT, that we've probably gotten ahead of ourselves. But it's okay. Are you getting ahead of yourself with Drake May? No, I'm patient. Okay, because I got ahead of myself today. We're just giving fodder to the haters

who are just going to clip all of these and put up a compilation. I was in the car with my kids and I was just thinking like, what if Cale Williams is awesome for like the next 15 years and my kids like go to college and Cale Williams is still the Bears quarterback? Yeah, it could be. What if, what if they're like literally starting college

and they're like, yeah, I just grew up with Cale Williams. It's more gonna be like the, you saying that than you saying that like three years ago What do you mean? What I feel like you said that exact same thing about Justin Fields? Okay? Well, you know what we were I'm saying like you're talking with the complete you rang a fucking bell, dude It wasn't even a lighthouse also also Caleb's different I can admit that watching Caleb but my biggest fear different and I've talked to big cat about this offline But we might as well share it online Yeah my biggest fear now is that jaden daniels is gonna be so goddamn good and that Caleb or jaden daniels is gonna be awesome. Like I'm talking Joe burrow

I'm talking Josh Allen and then Caleb Williams And then I'm gonna be like this motherfucker and I'm not gonna be happy with being so great So like it's I've really talked myself into a corner here where like I need Jade. I need Jayden to be great more than anything I've ever needed in my entire life. Yeah. Yeah. PFT did say that. And I was just like, well, that's, we're really getting ahead of ourselves.

Yeah. We've got Jayden is Josh Allen and, and Kale Williams. I'd say minimum, minimum Josh Allen. Hank, just get in with us. Yeah. You guys are in win now mode. We're not in. Oh, we're in load up mode. We're in more like, you know, top one 50 picks. Let's you Kobe play. Whatever happens, happens. He's, Drake Mays more like an Aaron Rodgers. Like he's going to be great, but he's got to give him some time. So one Superbowl in 15 years. Yeah. A couple of MVPs. Okay. I mean, oh, that's

what you care about now? You need it. I'm saying, but like Aaron Rodgers, you know, I'll take that as my QB all day. You won one Super Bowl. Yeah, you need it. Kind of a bust. You need this financially. I actually don't. Oh, I guess I do. Yeah. Yeah. But you, you do need it too. Well, you actually don't. That's the, that's the thing is Hank could, Hank could miss on the next like four quarterbacks and still be fine. Yeah. What's going to happen? We're at a point where it's like this, you know, both what we've been through and also our own age in mortality. It's like, you gotta, you gotta do it soon. Like this is kind of our last bite at the apple here. Cause who gives a shit,

we could be dead. Who gives a shit if, if commanders win three Super Bowls in my late 50s Right early 60s like these are my prime years for enjoying that sort of thing right we need it now right now I hope I hope it were basically just two chicks with our biological clocks just fucking screaming at us Yeah, you won't be able to to enjoy Super Bowls in ten years from now. You'll be menopausal I'm going through manapause right now. Yeah, we can't have that. We're gonna gain weight. And the shitty thing is, the Patriots could stink, the Celtics could self-destruct, and then obviously the Red Sox will become great again.

Hank just doesn't go through drought. Yeah, he's just fine with it. Always wet. Any other notes from the booth for preseason week two or three if you played in the Hall of Fame game. Don't care about preseason. Okay. All right.

That also makes us feel bad. I know how much of a loser I am to be this excited about Caleb Williams' rollout pass to Roma Dunezay, which was incredible. But I don't care. I don't care that I know I'm this much. I mean, no, that pass was sick. That pass was so sick. That pass was sick.

That pass was so sick. There is a debate. We can embrace debate real quick. Are you talking about the test? I'm talking about, no, I'm talking about the Olympics. Oh. In 2028. Flag football. Okay, wait, before we do that, I wanted to hear your guys' thoughts on a test that has been brought up.

This has to do with preseason week three or two. I wanted to know what you guys thought because this was a debate in my world. Did you see Simone Biles was at the game? Her husband Jonathan Owens plays on the Bears. I saw she was wearing a Packers jacket. She was wearing a Jonathan Owens jacket who happened to play for the Packers last year. What color was the jacket?

It was actually like black and white. Okay, so it was- Did you have new logos on it? There was, well, he played for the Packers, so his, it was a Jonathan Owens jacket, and he happened to play for the Packers. So there's a Jonathan Owens logo on it. I think, personally, just as J.O.,

this is a test by Simone Biles Simone Biles actually doing a great job She's seeing hey you guys got to start thinking about winning. You can't be worried about jackets I'm gonna go out on this field with a jacket and see if you guys can keep your composure It's all about the name on the back of the jacket not right him on the front of the jacket She should update her jacket. She probably she has been a little busy. She had a walking boot on do you think that? Um, I should have been upset? Yeah, I think you probably should have. If it had the Green Bay Packers logo on it. Well, it was the Jonathan Owens jacket who happened to play for the Packers.

And it had the Green Bay Packers logo on it. It didn't really. It kind of was just the helmets that he wore. It wasn't like a Christian Juchek jacket. Oh, there was multiple helmets on there? Well, it was just like a collage of him. Let me look this up. It was him. It was a him. He happened to play for the Packers last year. Again, I think this was a test and I will not fail this test. I will not break me. I will not let it break the Bears fan base. I will not let us have have we're

in we're in we're about to enter the golden age and we can't have a jacket bring us down. Okay. I'm looking at this right now. Test Simone. I like what you did. I think we passed the test. There's a lot of packers logos on here. Well, he played for the Packers. Jonathan Owens. He happened to play for the pack. If he went overseas while she was competing and he was wearing like a, a France jacket. Well, she never played for France. So that doesn't make sense. She was playing in France, but she never played for France. So that doesn't make sense. But she was playing in France. In France, but she never played for France. One of those games could have been in Chicago, so. If it was a jacket with pictures of Simone Biles

in front of the Eiffel Tower. That doesn't really make sense. Champs-Elysees. That doesn't really make sense. Look, she's gotta update her wardrobe. Again, great test, Simone. She's a nine-time AWL. Someone actually put that out.

One of these just has a giant Green Bay Packers logo. It could be the back of his shirt. It's just a big Green Bay Packers logo. It could be the back of his shirt. It's just a big Green Bay Packers logo. It could be the back of his shirt. Someone did point out that it was actually Huey's fault because he didn't do Simone Biles' nine time AWL, huge fan of the show. Huey didn't do, when we did Faces in New Places, he didn't do Jonathan Owens, so she might have not known that he

was on the Bears. Got it. So Huey, bad job by you, dude. There's a 50% chance she doesn't even know that these two teams have a rivalry. Oh, why do you say that? I mean, she just... No, she lived it. Jonathan Owens was on the Packers, happened to be on the Packers last year. How much are they talking about football? She went to a lot of games. I think she just was busy winning gold medals for the US and being an Olympic hero and she hasn't been able to update her wardrobe. Again, it's preseason a jacket shouldn't divide us in preseason. There's also she showed up regular. There's also a very good chance she had the twisties again and she didn't know where she was facts. If she showed up might have gotten lost and she thought she was in green Bay. Week one, I would've been upset.

It's preseason jackets too. That's true. That's, I mean, that's a fact. Yep. You got to work out the, all these things. We always talk about quarterbacks working out different facial hair and weird shit. Patrick Holmes throwing behind the backs. This is preseason. Max said it perfectly. Who cares? This is like a, uh, Kale Williams throw to Roma. Do you say it's like a, a Daniel Jones pick six of a jacket. Fine. And, and yeah, that was, it was a classic Daniel. I w you know what? I don't know what's going through your head then. I was just thinking so badly that I wish it was regular season. I would have been able, cause that was preseason. We talked about it before you, you basically judge preseason. If your team, if your players

do well, you're like preseason matters. If team does bad you just ignore it and you also kind of can't go at other teams for preseason so it's like Daniel Jones threw that pick six and I wanted to make fun of it but it's preseason it's preseason what went through my head was the interview that we had with somebody that wanted to be the intern on part of my take and he was a Giants fan he's like it's going to be great Daniel Jones is going to be doing Daniel Jones things. That's right. And then me and Big Cat stopped and we're like, wait. Were you saying Daniel Jones things are good things or bad things?

Yeah. He was like, that's good. Daniel Jones doing Daniel Jones things, that's a good thing. This was a Daniel Jones thing. Yeah. This was like the quintessential Daniel Jones thing. Big time. Big time.

All right. So I'm happy that we all agree that Simone Biles was just testing and a good test. Yeah, I think she just got lost in the air Yeah, he just happened to be it wasn't a Packers jacket was a Jonathan Owens jacket who happened to play for the Packers very big difference So like if a cop let's say this was like a you know a crime scene and that's the jacket that they found in the crime scene

They would say we have a Jonathan Owens jacket. Yes, they'd be like, oh wow, look at this Jonathan Owens jacket. Simone Biles must have been here. It's gotta be the only Jonathan Owens jacket in the world. Did it have his name on it? Yeah, it was all over it. Well, his name, like, because there were pictures of him as a Green Bay Packer where it said Owens. He happened to play for the Packers.

There was a giant, just Green Bay Packers logo on it. It's merely a coincidence. She'll get it straightened out for week one. I guarantee that she doesn't show up with that jacket week one. And if she does jail walking boot for her other foot. Do you guys want to embrace debate? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. Embrace debate. There's a hot new debate out there because flag football is going be in the Olympics in 2028. Yep, and We've heard from several NFL players saying that they want to represent the United States in that event like Joe Burrow said it in part My take I think Tyreek Hill has said that he wants to be on that team. Mm-hmm one person That's not taking too kindly to this is the quarterback the current quarterback of the US flag football team

His name is Darrell whoosh do set whoo.S. flag football team. His name is Daryl Hoosh Doucet. Who? Hoosh is 5'7". Uh-oh. Immediately. Wait, so a 5'7 man is upset? A 5'7 man is upset. We gotta watch, sound the alarm. Yes. Not good for history. He's very mad. He said, I think it's disrespectful that they just automatically assume that they're

able to just join the Olympic team because of the person that they are. They didn't help grow this game to get to the Olympics, give the guys who help this game get to where it's at their respect. So he thinks that if Joe Burrow wanted to step in, he's not going to be good enough at playing flag football because he's too used to playing real football. So, okay. So all he wants is respect. He wants football. So, okay, hmm. So all he wants is respect. He wants respect. So respect. Respect, also the backup quarterback.

Now let Patrick Brahms and Josh Allen play quarterback. Backup quarterback is the most popular person in town. You just might be getting more popular. This guy, I feel like he timed this incorrectly. I know that it was right after the Olympics. He had to wait till like, when they're deciding the team to start saying this stuff. And there are probably some rules

that are different about flag football from the NFL that you can exploit if you know the game better. Yeah, you can't tackle. But I'm saying if you probably gave, Manuel Moore might be, he might be really good at flag football. Yes. But if you gave the good NFL players,

I'm gonna say two weeks to practice flag football. I would Two hours two hours to practice an hour. They'd probably pick it up an hour I think if you took the worst NFL team and then made them the flag football team They would probably win the gold. Yeah an hour. Yeah, I don't Again, I think he missed time this because now the US flag football is going to be like, we got to get this guy to stop talking. It all came from your boy, Jalen Hurts, because your boy Jalen Hurts put out a video where he had left like a football that was on fire and he's like, we're bringing football to

the Olympics insinuating that he would want to be the quarterback of the Olympics. I agree that Jalen Hurts should not be the quarterback. No, you can't do the tush push in the Olympics. No, Jalen Hurts should not be a court. No, you can't do the tush push in the Olympics. No Jalen Hurts should not be a court. No. No, you guys are a part of the media that just hates Jalen Hurts No, I don't actually hasn't enough interceptions to be good at flag football Mac baby PFT Maybe he should be because he's so good at seven on seven. That's true in practice. Yeah, that's flag football is essentially seven on seven on practice So enjoy your preseason buddies All right, we will We will I'm so excited for football. I can't lie. There's a chance

There's a chance that how the Eagles finished last year is how they start this year, buddy So you want them to lose it you want them to lose to the Packers week one? Okay, you got me there. Yep. Yeah Zachers week one. Okay. He got me there. Yeah. Yeah. God damn it. We're going to stream that game. I'm going to bet a house on the on the Eagles. What's the line in that game? Ah, fuck. He got me there. No, I can't. Max, I can't. I would like the Eagles to start fast. I can't wait for the regular season. I can't wait to play you twice, Max. Yeah, that's going to be a right. We're going to do that that that's a Thursday night rivalry game I'm gonna do I cannot wait buddy you don't mean that I do me yeah he I'm very dumb right now he means it it's the revenge for little

little you small yes revenge also I know that our cornerbacks names Emanuel Forbes not a manual more that's okay I knew that but Emanuel Forbes would be excellent at flag yes Eagles minus two two Love it hammer minus two hammer them. I'm gonna take the alternate line. Yeah, I think I think it's a hundred I think they got the number right wrong team. Oh, you're taking Packers. No commanders minus two. Oh, no, we're talking about we're talking I'm saying I can't I can't wait to play you. Oh, yeah, that'll be an interesting game Is it true that you're not allowed to wear green in Brazil because it's a I think that was it's a gang thing That wasn't yeah, okay. I think that was the internet. The internet got us Jalen Hurts does have a Brazilian ass That's true. Yeah big old and say Kwan and yeah Wow, you're bringing the ass. Yes, you guys might have the all ass team

They should actually see that we should put out a team Brazil at halftime to see. Yeah. Just to see. Just to see if they could compete with the Eagles in the all-ass department. They might be able to. I would like to see. Yeah, I want to know. I'd like to at least, I mean competition is the best.

Hank, you would be the least popular person in Brazil. I get arrested. Hank, you should... What does this man have in his pants? Nothing. If you want to be able to dunk, you should go to this game, get a BBL and then fly back and you'd be the total package. A jet propulsion BBL. Yeah. Do they have those? No, that's, uh, they do not have jets you can put on your ass. Hank with a big ass would be fire though. They do not have jets you can put on your ass Hank with a big ass would be fire though. Yeah working on it He'd be looking right yeah

You jazz Okay, anything else for you who's back in the week? I think that's it gardener mint shoes the court Oh, yeah, Raiders gardener mint shoe Congrats to gardener me. I think he's the perfect Raiders quarterback Yeah, like if you want to get back to old-school Raiders football just have a guy with a mustache that doesn't give a fuck. He's gonna ball out He's gonna win some games that you won't think he's gonna win Yeah, he's gonna give it his best and it's gonna be fun to watch. Yep Let's do who's back of the week is brought to you by our friends a game time football season is here and we can't wait To get out some games this fall with the help of game time the official ticketing partner barstool sports You know how much we love game time now with their brand new game time picks feature to get out some games this fall with the help of Game Time. The official ticketing partner, Barstool Sports.

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He was hired as a defensive coordinator at Mumford High School, which maybe Huey knows a little more about. It's Detroit High School. But he's back. That's awesome. That's kind of like a promotion, too. From assistant to D coordinator. I mean, he won a championship in college.

But he didn't have a job on the books. He did get a job. He got a job. Yeah out of all What do you think that interview process was like? I'm gonna make sure we're the most prepared team in the state. I'll cheat I would trust Connor Stallings with just about any job actually and you got to assume that the you know President whoever ad is hiring is like the biggest Michigan fan of all time. Yeah, I I that the president, whoever AD is hiring, is the biggest Michigan fan of all time. Yeah. This bums me out a little bit because there was a moment in time last year where I really did think we were going to hire him at Barstool. The way Dave was talking about his conversations with Connor Stallions, I thought we were going to just give him an

office upstairs, black out the glass and just be like, we don't know what he does, and just have him just hand us reports every now and then about the competition, and just no one ever gets to talk to him, and we don't know what he does, but just let him do what he does. Like the Ernie Adams Barstool. It would've been great.

I'm kinda bummed out that we don't have him on staff. I mean, I honestly think that this guy could be a weapon in the gambling space. Yeah, absolutely. Have him do one pick a week, go out, scout whatever you wanna scout, I mean, I honestly think that this guy could be a weapon in the gambling space. Yeah. Like have him do one pick a week, go out, scout, whatever you want to scout unlimited budget. He's a he's a one man CIA. Connor Stallion's pick of the week would have been fire. Yeah. Damn. All right. Maybe maybe. So we got to root against them. Well, I mean, he'll come back. Come here. I can't root against

Connor. I like him. Connor sounds one of the best stories ever Does you have another manifesto? I'm sure I'll get one sure he came prepared to the interview with oh his cover letter was just a manifesto Yeah, it was in like magazine letters that have been cut out. Yeah Yeah, he didn't show up with like a couple pages stapled together like other people. Yeah in a full plan. Yeah. Mm-hmm Yeah Good who's back what Hank you didn't want to? Say that your boys back. Oh Yeah, you know full plan. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah Good who's back what Hank you didn't want to? Say that your boys back. Oh Yabu

Yeah, yeah, we've got sign. I'm happy for what you're not gonna mention that sorry No, you were so excited. Where do you back in the league? Where do you sign? For now is on the Sixers for now What do you mean for now? That is how contracts work. He is right. Everyone signs like a finite amount of time for their contracts. So yes, for now he is on the Sixers. You think him and Embiid are going to get along well?

Of course. Okay. I mean, he's got all the confidence after dunking on LeBron. Are you a little scared that this might be the championship piece? No, I mean, it's not going to be the championship piece, but it's a great addition for the six. You love you. I love them. Right. So I'm happy for him. I wanted to back in the NBA. We needed a power forward. I'm happy that we got him. But when I saw the news, the only thing I cared about was what Hank was thinking. Yeah. And he's upset because we watched that, that we watched the French USA game and every time

Yahoo touched the ball, he He was he was a Frenchman Yeah, you were you love him so much and now he's now he's my guy for now For now you wanted LeBron. He's mad Doing that. He's not giving any eye contact towards your direction Yeah, I know I was so happy. So happy. Yeah, you're mad. You should get a jersey max me put it up in the I should I should get it Yeah, you should get a Sixers legend who no one even knows what other actually played for in the NBA You should get a jacket a Jonathan Owens type jacket, but it's sixers. No, I don't think I'd well I would get it

The Sixers wise. Yeah, no Sixers. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah, boo. Yeah Get a whole jacket of him in Sixers gear. Yeah. Never forget I sold a picket. I used to sell Yabu shirts. I sold Yabu shirts. Yeah. How many to Oh maybe that's a shirt design for you though Max. Yeah we could repurpose that. Yeah no I would love to. Hank would probably buy one. What was his career like on the Celtics Hank. He was I mean he was a but he was an electric personality. He was a great bench guy. He was a great player. Do you guys sell b-ball Paul? No, we got a better Paul. So that's kind of a perfect b-ball Paul replacement. Where's b-ball Paul? I think

he's Pistons. Oh, okay. I think he's added, I think he's gotten a little bit better. He was the definition of just like, he just bang boards and couldn't shoot. Just athlete. Or no finesse. Yeah, yeah. Okay, good who's back. Good second who's back, Hank. Thank you, Max.

Good producing, Max. PFT. My who's back of the week is camping. Oh. Because the boys are going camping this week. Oh yeah, yeah, we are. Yeah, we're going camping. I think we're leaving Monday night and we're getting back Thursday, right and we're in an undisclosed location somewhere in Wisconsin

Mm-hmm, and we're doing summer camp. Mm-hmm. So we're gonna be competing in games I don't really know what the events are gonna be. I know we're gonna be sleeping in cabins On a lake on a lake fires at night. So we So the next two shows you're going to see is us from camp. Is there like a Canadian camp that's across the lake that we can start a rivalry with? Go steal their shit? Maybe across the lake. Or yeah. I guess yeah.

Probably not. But yeah, we could try. I would like to start a camp rivalry. Yeah. But yeah, how many people from Barstool are going? Like 60. What? 50.

I mean. There's like 20 competing. It's a lot. The boys? What? 50? I mean. There's like 20 competing. It's a lot. The boys will be there, Taylor and Will. Very excited about that. We might get a sober Will on the podcast maybe Friday. Just to make sure everybody knows that he's not in fact constantly drunk. We should actually get him.

We're just J.J. check in. We should get him hammered before it. Yeah. There are some people that have been internally like scared. I don't understand necessarily what they're scared of but they're like what like well Here's we need to know about camp Shane asked if there was gonna be plumbing there beams mom Texted saying make sure you bring earplugs in case people snore people will snore for sure and just people Some people were like we're sleeping in cabins are like what?

The most concerning part. Yeah, it was the was the waiver that they had a sign that oh, I didn't sign it Oh, yeah, so I didn't sign it either death waiver. Did I sign it? I? Think somebody might have forged your and my signature which is good because it's on record if we die we consume I want I want to retain my right to sue Hank for anything that happens because on this waiver It says you may encounter dangerous insects you may encounter dangerous weather you may encounter dangerous bodies of water How is dangerous weather. You may encounter dangerous bodies of water How is the weather looking? I haven't looked but the insects part really freaked me out. I'm excited. It's gonna be great So we're gonna be live streaming after the yak on

Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday Thursday will actually be a taped finale, but Tuesday and Wednesday will be live and So tune in it's gonna be great. We're gonna be competing. I think it's gonna be I think we're drafting teams Pft me versus you. All right, so Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. It's good like good team bonding football season. I'm very excited And so you like remember the Titans. Yes, so when you see the when you want if you watch us instead of listening to us You'll see us in a cabin on Tuesday or Wednesday show and Friday show it's gonna be like training camp

Yeah, kind of like heart which we should do a hard knocks for this We are gonna play a softball game on Tuesday night to see Who gets one the winner of the team's gonna get steak and lobster and the losers gonna get a pack of hot dogs They have to cook it a fire. I'm okay with either one. Yeah But it's just a little competition. Yeah competition, you know gets everyone going. So yeah, that's gonna it's gonna be fun I'm excited. Um, all right, my who's back of the week is uh Wait, can we watch hard knocks? Yes. Okay, we'll find out away my who's back of the week is Memes and the Busters guy cuz I think memes found the Busters guy.

We found the Busters guy? We might have. So this comes from, wow, at wow nice butt dude. He said, my friend just revealed to me that he has 1.4 million points at Dave and Busters. He showed me the menu and said, get anything you want. The most

expensive meal is 20, 20, 2,200 points. Fuck yeah. So that might be the Buster's guy. That's actually, you can retire right now if you're the Buster's guy. 1.4 million points. Yeah. And what is that? All right, I'm going to do the math real quick, but yeah. You don't have to work anymore. You can just go live in a Dave and Buster's for the rest

of your life. Pretty much. This guy rules. So 2, points for 636 meals. Have you got the most expensive meal every time? Yeah, you could live in there for five years. So yeah, he's got me. He's got he's got free food for an entire year if you want. If you're doing if you're doing like the the filet every night. Yeah. Yeah. The uh I mean this guy rules and also if this guy's at a Dave and Buster's eating every meal, he's gonna be playing games and getting more points at Dave and Buster's like five years is

probably too slow to like little time. He could probably do 10 or 15 years. Yeah. With all the points, he'll be accumulating as he eats. Yeah. this guy rules. I want to meet him Hopefully he is the Busters guy the actual Busters guy. All right, Huey Finish this off before we get to our interview with Rossello. My who's back John Madden. Yes Only in a football video games. Yeah Nicholas Cage will be depicting the picking him picking him yeah betraying him

Portraying yeah in a movie a biopic Directed by David or Russell same guy who did a silver linings playbook and the fighter a couple other things like that I was the guy who screams at everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but Nicolas Cage I kind of I saw a couple pictures Cage, he kind of, I saw a couple of pictures of him recently, kind of, I could see a little Madden in him. Yeah, his face started to sink a little bit. I'm looking forward to hearing him say boom. I think he's going to give a great boom as John Madden. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited for this. It's going to be awesome. Yeah. This is, I mean, John Madden is a national treasure.

And Nick Cage is the perfect guy. Yeah. You're basically putting two of my favorite things together, Nick Cage and John Madden. I need a graphic of Nick Cage is depicting crossed out, betraying crossed out, portraying John Madden. Oh, I can't wait to hear Nick Cage describing a turducken. Yes. He's got to go method for this, right? I hope they just show the making of the turducken. I also hope they make it like very like I could see them trying to find like a dark angle Yeah, I hope they don't do that. I hope yeah. Yeah, let's keep it light. Keep it light. I hope fun I hope he's in character as John Madden. I hope that he's up in the booth actually calling games this season as John Madden That would be cool. Yeah, I couldn't they had Jake Gyllenhaal film. Yeah. Yeah. Roadhouse scenes at a UFC fight. Yeah. Yeah.

Actually have Nicolas Cage like call at halftime. Yeah. Have it have him up there. Hell, he could just be in the booth by himself or with whoever's playing Pat Summerall and then just have him calling the game to nobody. I just want to see him as John Madden up in the booth. Who would be? He's got to be there on Thanksgiving. Pat Summerall. Jimmy Fallon whose out oh god James Corden James Corden wait he's like gone right is he I don't know I think he stopped his show oh good everyone's like we've had enough of this fat British yeah we I think we all agree to stop

playing the prank on James Corden that we thought he was good yeah right like we don't have we won a war so we don't have to do this. Yeah Okay, good good. Who's back? What? Who's the guy on NFL Fox? NFL Fox Tom Brady now the old guy Greg Olson from the Steelers Terry Bradshaw. Yeah, maybe Terry Bradshaw playing Pat Sumner. Oh, yeah. I don't hate it Okay. Yeah. Yeah, you don't even you don't even have to get him drunk. Yeah. Yeah, maybe Terry Bradshaw. Playing Pat Summerall. I don't hate it. Okay, yeah. Yeah,

you don't even have to get him drunk. Yeah. Yeah, just let him be. Okay, let's get to our interview with Ryan Rosillo. Before we do that, PFT, you got a couple, and we're gonna do the Mount Rushmore Best Feelings after that. Yeah, before we get into Rosillo, he's brought to you by our great friends at Coors Light. I love Coors Light. The mountains are blue. Coors Light is the absolute best beer in the world. It's great during the summer. It's great during football season. It's great if you're sneaking out to a baseball game in the middle of the day. Grab an ice-cold Coors Light and follow the Blue Mountains to happiness. It's chill. Time to choose chill. Go to CoorsLight.com slash take. CoorsLight.com slash take. It's the best time of year to have a Coors Light. I had a take CoorsLite.com slash take it's the best

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It is Ryan Rusillo. Thanks, boys. You look great. Why'd you wear that? Well, it's a combination of things. You know how you want to reinvent yourself every seven years? Van Pelt told me that one time.

Yeah, like Madonna. Right. Every seven years? Every seven years. I actually saw something recently. I'm really into earnest answers on Twitter lately. Okay. And there was this interview and this woman was like,

what voice pattern is this? I want to start maybe talking like this next year. And like, you got all sorts. You know, and imagine if you had a friend who was like, you know, imagine if you had a friend was like, what are you just doing different speech patterns? I had a roommate in college after Google hunting like blew up, like, he's like, you don't really have that kind of accent. He's like, dude, it's back. What are you talking

about? But yeah, no, I'm just figuring out light, lighter tones, pastels. Tell me about those shorts. It's a mesh cut. And it also if I were to fall down, I'm good. It looks like a grandmother's sweater. Is that the loosest shirt you've ever worn? I don't think I've ever seen you in a shirt that, like, you wear tight shirts. Well, my arms are big. You work out.

Yeah. So what am I supposed to do? Flaunt it. But happy birthday. Thanks. Is this how you expect it to spend your 49th birthday? Is it 49 for real or is it 49 joke? Haha. You know, you guys will know when it's five Oh your next year. I would have guessed like 43 people have said my maturity level they're blown away and I was like

Oh cuz I look so good and they're like, no You look damn good for four more More because of just your whole deal. Yeah, well, I hope we know when you turn 50 because you, so it is your birthday. We were planning on doing this pod today and then yesterday you texted me, you said, hey, I actually forgot that tomorrow's my birthday. So I think we should hang out for my birthday.

I was like, yeah. How do you forget what day your birthday is? I didn't forget, like, if I had to fill out paperwork, I would still know it. But it just was one of the, I'd just gotten back from Spain, everything was fucked up. It was one of the worst sleeping experiences I've had

since I think Pledge Week, Hell Week pledging. We don't sleep a lot during that, but some of you guys who quit wouldn't even fucking know what I'm talking about. It's basically bud straining, yeah. Stay with your heartbreak motel hat. I can't take you seriously. It's better than the hat you guys originally gave me. It's also better than you showing your balls to everyone like the last time.

I thought about it. I thought about it. Yeah, we put like a filter on it so that's not gonna happen this time you and Bob Stoops the two bit the two biggest like ball reveals on pardon my take history Bob Stoops just had a fucking moose knuckle in our in our fans face for a half hour that's good company yeah that's really one of Natty I remember I've interviewed Bob. I was in Norman, and it was like right when these offenses were getting out of control. And so everybody was giving up way more points. So the defensive minded coaches were like losing it. And Oklahoma, you know, traditionally stoops a whole deal.

And so I was out the night before with you remember Kevin, was it Kevin White? No, no, Kevin White. No, come Kevin White now come out Hall of Fame Kevin Wilson Kevin Wilson the offensive coordinator and it'd be in the head coach at Indiana So like somebody boots on the ground was like do you want to go out drinking with these guys in Norman? And I went yeah, fuck it like the staff will be there So I'm having a few beers and it's a bunch of the guys in the staff and they were like, you know You got Bob tomorrow and I was like, yeah 15 minutes with Bob in his office and they were like, you got Bob tomorrow? And I was like, yeah, I have 15 minutes with Bob in his office. And they were like, well, let's go over the questions.

Let's prep. And these guys have been drinking, they were ready to go, and I prepped it out. They're like, oh, that's a good one, that's a good one. And then I got to like, hey, I've noticed on average, you're giving up way more yardage per play than you ever have before. What's going on with your secondary,

and can you actually hang with the SEC? And they were like, oh my God, he he's gonna kill you you can't ask him that question and so I did ask him it and he hated it and we were in his office I remember he's like what you fail to realize is you know but he did make a good point that they were just running so many more plays he had a lot of watches too from all the bowl games what does what does that with his balls though? Well, I like that he stuck up for himself. Yeah, there you go. So I think there's some similarities there.

That's probably why he came back to the USFL. They don't score shit there. Nobody gets scored on because the offenses are bad. Stoops though really did have like a complete makeover. Like he went from, if you were an Oklahoma guy, you loved him. Right. He could kind of give a shit about anybody else. And then once he, I mean, it took him a little bit longer or maybe it was just transcendent. Maybe it's going to be

what we see with Belichick. Like everybody's going to love the lovable Belichick now. Right. And you're going to be like, all right, but what does that mean? Stoops also has that, I mean, the crazy story is his dad died of a heart attack while coaching, like on the sideline. So his whole thing was like, I'm going the crazy story is his dad died of a heart attack while coaching, like on the sideline. So his whole thing was like, I'm going to retire before, like, I get to that point. So yeah, that's heavy. Yeah. But I ended up really liking him. I mean, I didn't in the beginning. Okay. That's what people think of me when they see my balls. No, I see your balls. I think just all I think is balls. Yeah. I actually think, OK, so he didn't do steroids.

Thanks, man. You know, because we wouldn't be able to tell. All right, so happy birthday. And hey, thanks for bumping Trump for me this week. Oh, yeah, no problem. Were you guys supposed to have him on? Oh, yeah, we were. We were going to have him on.

But we actually have a very surprised birthday guest for you, Donald Trump. Here he is. We actually, no, we did want to have you on though because... You want to talk about the race? Well, we don't dip into politics, but we wanted to do a little election preview with you. Yeah, okay. Who you got? Thoughts?

What do you think is going to happen in Pennsylvania? Well, I think a snapshot of any polling number right now is the dumbest thing. This is where Ryan's going to really answer this. No, I think a snapshot of any polling number right now is the dumbest thing. This is where Ryan's gonna really answer this. No, I'm serious. Because it was, like, if you look at the Vegas odds, which I actually think are really interesting with it, the swings in a very short amount of time, it's because no one side can keep their shit together for more than three days.

We're like, yeah. Right. But who are the swing votes right now? Like who has not made up their mind? What is it? Pennsylvania? Yeah, one county in Wisconsin. Isn't it always your place? Wisconsin?

Oh, it's Wisconsin. Washington, Michigan. Yeah, this is where we're all going to expose ourselves as morons. Florida's up for grabs. That's what they said. That's what they say. That's just one guy tweeting.

He's like, I think Florida's up for grabs. Like, all right, dude. I do love the polling of one, though. And I have, and I'm talking to either CNN or Fox. They'll just throw somebody in some place. Like there's a perfect example. I think there was somebody from Fox went to interview like five women that if you hooked up with, you would never tell anyone ever in your entire life.

Okay. And I'm just trying to paint a picture here. I hear you. And so they were like, is Harris a candidate for you? Does she speak to you? You know, woman to woman here. And they were all like, no, she sucks. She's an idiot.

And I was like, okay. And then the reporter's like, did any of you vote for Hillary? And they're like, nope, couldn't stand her. So you're like, okay. And then the reporters like, did any of you vote for Hillary? And they're like, Nope, couldn't stand her. So you're like, okay. And then it gets play. And you're like, man, this, this Harris is not as popular. You're like, you found five in Arkansas that were never voting for her anyway. Like what, what, it's when, uh, when people who are like highly political online do a Twitter polls, like Clay Travis will be like, who are you voting for online do Twitter polls like clay Travis will be like who you voting for tomorrow It's like well, that's your audience

Like if I if I did a poll be like, you know, do you like the Bears or the Packers more? Yeah, that one might be no, but see a lot of packers the polling of one shit that we see Yeah, we're like they had another one where it was a white guy in a black barber shop and there was that was so It was so fucked up and he's wearing like a Jordan. Yeah. Yeah, the guy's trying to fit in This guy was trying to fit in he put a Jordan t-shirt on underneath a sport coat Yeah, right, and then he went to a barber not an art. Yeah, he's like you guys think that Kamala Harris is black Yeah, go on. It was the most uncomfortable minute of TV. And then four guys may not like her,

and then he tosses it back to studio. We're like, well, this election's a wrap. So I don't understand the polling of one phenomenon that we have where this is kind of my point about the Super Bowl. I say this, we shouldn't ever be allowed on the air hours after the Super Bowl, because in that window, we're incapable of having any perspective. And it's why I always make fun of, like, after championships.

So I actually think the rate of speed that we have with information is making us dumber. Oh, yeah. And this isn't, like, the most enlightening thing you're ever going to hear, but I don't think, whether it's how you feel about a team, historically or a player and their accomplishments historically, but if you relate it to like what's happening

right now in an election year, you're like, I don't know that the tides are turning nearly as fast as everybody's pretending as it does day to day. It's every, yeah, everything is fucking madness. I love it when you do the, is this the greatest championship team of all time? Yeah. Like seconds after it's over. Although I get people that earnestly be like,

cause the joke is always like, you have to ask. Yeah. You do. Yeah, you always have to ask. So that was actually my next question. I had LSU people mad at me being like, are you serious? What about 19 LSU?

And I'm like, dude, you're explaining it to me. You're an LSU guy. Yeah, well you guys are the biggest LSU guys. Yeah, we are. They want to hurt you. We were Coach Ho guys. That's dumb. We're not LSU guy. Yeah, well, you guys are the biggest LSU guys. Yeah, we are. Yeah. They want to hurt you. We were Coach Ho guys. That stung.

We're not LSU guys. That's why it stung. Well, I mean, we were very open. Well, we talked about it. You like BK? I like BK a lot. You like all BK? I'm not getting a summer house with him, but I mean, I like him, and he's always been really good to me.

Okay. You family? Y'all fam, y'all can. Hey, there's nothing I can say. I did have a question for you, Ryan. Are we sure the Celtics are good? Here's my question. If they win the gold, does that mean the Celtics are even better? Well, it's interesting you brought that up, right?

Cause I did a little research, uh research just before you sat down here. I went back through some of your recent takes. This was from early July. You tweeted, Is Tatum the best international player in the world? No, I didn't. You tweeted that? Well, you want to know why?

Is because Simmons was saying that he is the best international player. And so then I was making fun of it. Okay. In the tweet. Didn't get that. Yeah. You don't get that context. No, there wasn't supposed to.

That was only for the audience of the Sunday. Okay, let's have an actual intelligent. Bill went on with Joe House and said that Tatum should get LeBron's minutes. Okay. Well, he also with me was like, who's going to start Tatum or LeBron's minutes. Okay. Well he also with me was like, who's gonna start Tatum or LeBron? I was like, are you serious? And he was making the case that Tatum

was the best international, like his whole thing was he's the best international player. I laughed, we argued, it was fine, but then I used it in a tweet. Got it. Yeah. Got it, so yeah, that kind of takes the sting out of it a little bit there. Yeah, especially when you get a DNP. Yeah, good. You could have made me look bad.

Yeah. So, uh, is the U S still good at basketball? Or is it just Mickey Mouse? Uh, I understand what you're asking. We have the easiest schedule of all time. I'm not sure this team's good. Who are we supposed to play? And I said we. Someone better. Yeah, Greece. How's your borders are? So I look like Canada, right? Women don't owe me shit. That's so profound. For the record, if you're listening, I'm wearing the hat that says women don't owe me shit because it was Ryan's hat. I don't want to wear it. I don't want to wear it. After my... What? What does it say? Women don't owe you shit. Oh wait, I should have worn it. Yeah. That's a great hat. Oh, that's actually... Yeah, you're standing with women.

That's not a pander hat at all. Look at me, Ryan refused to wear this hat. Can you believe that? We're so misogynistic. We read it in a totally different way. Fuck. Oops. Women don't owe you shit. That's dude. Hey. I wish way to stand up. Your intern is so proud of himself right now.

He's dying. Huey. He's a gem. He's a young John Candy. He's just looking at it. He's so happy with these outfits. They had this, you know, that's a lot of power. Big WNBA guy. How do you feel about Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark? Want to say something, Ewing? What do you think about that Rookie of the Year race?

He has a podcast. It was called NBA Hole. There was NBA Asshole. And then when he realized WNBA was a league, what, last year? He added the W. Yeah, for the whole. So it's NBA Whole, W-H-O-L-E. How did that do? Did it do any numbers?

45 people. Yeah. Fuck, I look out. And how many of those were you listening back? His favorite number. I listened to it back like three times, two or three times. You understand how I was talking and stuff, my beats, and get those. But then he deleted it.

It's tough to do. He accidentally deleted 200 episodes. Brutal. It might be better though in the long run. Yeah, true. Based on what you guys are telling me. Angel Reese? Yeah, I love Angel Reese.

I think she has Rodman level rebounding. I fucking love her. I think Kate and Clark, potential to be the face of the league. She's not there today. She won't be there tomorrow. She's three, four years away from being half of that. She'll be all right. She'll get her way up. But Angel, Angel's my baby girl. She'll be all right. She'll get her way up.

But Angel, Angel's my baby girl. She'll be a 20 and 10. Okay, nice. Every day. She'll be a 20 and 10. So you're voting her Rookie of the Year if you had to vote? If I had to, yeah.

Wow. He should have a vote. Yeah. He clearly knows ball. Would you call her baby girl at a press conference? Cause then on the other end, No, no, no, no, no, no. That would be behind closed doors.

Door yourself. Yeah. Behind closed doors. Okay, good job, Healy. Big WNBA guy. Angel's baby girl. It's tough. It's tough to go back and listen to yourself in the beginning.

He did it all the time. Then he deleted his own episodes. It just makes you have to work that much harder to build up the library again. Yeah, I have a take that I would like to take back that I think you were right. Conference realignment? Yeah.

I did that rant again today. Yeah. It had been eight months. You might be right on that. 33 different teams. You might be right. 33 teams have changed conferences since 2001. Yeah. Now, my take has always been I'm going to watch it no matter what, and I love College for No Matter What. But you are right that this is the first season where I'm like, what the fuck's going on? And it's not even, it's the USC, UCLA, it's the Texas, Oklahoma, it just feels off.

Feels weird. My point was always this, okay? It's much like the playing game. I didn't think it was right for a team in certain years with the 10 seed is gonna have such an abysmal record compared to the team that has the seven seed, and you're like, you still have to kind of prove yourself one more time, even though it's weighted to win one game

at home and then another chance, but if the 10 seed just, I don't know, the right thing happens, you're like, you still have to kind of prove yourself one more time, even though it's weighted to win one game at home and then another chance. But like if the 10 seed just, I don't know, the right thing happens, you're gonna go, okay, so a team with 36 wins gets into the playoffs, and a team with 50 isn't. Remember that happened to the Cardinals and the Dodgers. They had like the way the baseball playoffs were one year, they both had like almost 100 wins,

they had to play one game, and you go, what the fuck is the point of what we just did for six months? That's the stuff I cannot stand. There was a 2015 year where the Cardinals, Cubs, and Pirates all had, I think it was like 98 wins, and then we beat the Pirates in the one game playoff, and it was like, they won 98 games. How is this possible? Yeah, and now you're done. You're done. You just did this for six months. So my point

is that when the Lakers and Golden State were going at it in that awesome Curry LeBron playing game, I wasn't having a bad time watching it. That's not the point. The point is the structure, that it exists. And it's the same thing with playoff expansion. It's the same thing with all the realignment. I'm still going to watch for 12 plus hours on Saturday. But what I loved about the sport was that a Pac-12 game looked

like a Pac-12 game. And then culturally, when you would visit all of these different places, the fan bases were lined in a very conference, like it just made sense. And I remember Cannell telling me that the whole conference thing was an SEC creation. And I'm like, dude, I am telling you right now, maybe I'm guilty of pulling the one thing here again. But when I was like a crazy Big East guy in the 80s and 90s as a kid and then in college, I hated Syracuse and Georgetown

because I love St. John's. But I still wanted to see Houston, Georgetown beat ACC schools. And it was kind of this fun, additive thing for the tournament. And look, maybe it won't matter. Maybe younger people will just be desensitized the whole thing.

But when the ACC Twitter feed is congratulating Katie Ledecky saying the Olympians are made here, you're just like, what the fuck? The death of the Pac-12 was really the part of it. Did you see it on dot com? Did you hear my... They have the standings, Pac-12 standings, and it's the two teams. It's so embarrassing. Yeah. It sucks. Well, not even embarrassing, it's sad. It's sad. It is sad. You're right. So you were right about that. Thank you. I just felt like you were part of the haves and the haves had a hard time. I admitted that. I admitted that. I admitted if I rooted for a team that if I was an Oklahoma State fan, I would feel a lot different than being a Wisconsin fan being like, I don't think. But you know what? Now with how crazy it is, I can see a world where Wisconsin does get left out with it whatever the next iteration is. Yeah, see, that's the other part that sucks is that there's,

even though it's expanded, so I'm going to lose the argument here because you're going to get some teams in, but like the Penn State model of the last couple years, where I'll just be like, who have you beat that's actually really good the last couple years? Because as soon as you actually play somebody that has athletes that can match or outmatch your athletes, then you just don't win those games. It's just going on a couple of years, But at the end of the year, you're like, oh, cool, we're nine and three or we're 11 and two because we won our bowl game. We beat undefeated Iowa at home 30 to nothing. Exactly. And because Iowa finds a way because of how bad that side of the Big Ten has been

now. And that's the Big Ten West. Yeah. Because it's awesome if you're decent because you're like, now we're going to win seven games. And if we win the two non-conferences that aren't power fives, then it's awesome if you're decent, because you're like, now we're going to win seven games. I know. And if we win the two non-conferences that aren't power fives, then that's nine wins. And we don't even know if we're any fucking good.

And then you're ranked 16th, and then Penn State beats you. And then it's like, Penn State, wow, great job. Penn State, yeah. And I guess that team, it's not going to happen now because the conferences are too tough between the Big Ten and the SEC, but I think there's going to be some expansion like playoff slots where we're going to be arguing about teams that may not have beaten anybody remotely

good all year long. And all they did was lose close to good teams. Like, oh, well, they lost by six to Ohio State. Down 14 and they don't care that you score the touchdown, right? Yeah, what we'll see is maybe a couple very entertaining early matchups, where the two teams are similarly mismatched against each other. And then the top four teams are just going to kick the shit out of everybody

in the second round of it. But we might get one more fun week at college football. Look, it's still going to be fun. Everybody that's been on me about, oh, why don't you want expansion? We have it in the other division, or the other levels of college football. And I go, okay, but I'm still obviously I'm not gonna pro them. They let me know when the first round's over because I'm mad about it. They're still gonna be great. It's the same thing as the

plan. I just. And home games are gonna be cool, but I think it's a really fun added wrinkle. I think it kind of, I almost like the false hope sometimes of a Wisconsin the right year Yeah, or if the SEC East was down and this is like pre Georgia post Florida in that window Or they weren't great there for a little while, but now whoever that team is is like buried Yeah, yeah, I mean it's set up for like they did a I think they went back 20 years And they're like who would have made the playoffs And Wisconsin would have made it like seven out of the 20 years. Yeah, this is actually great for Penn State. Yeah. Yeah The the quintessential team that will benefit from and people will say to me all the time like oh, well, what about the NFL?

Do you think I love in nine and seven nine and seventeen like playing in the conference championship? Yeah, I don't actually Yeah, but the NFL is different because you've had wild card teams make those runs and win Super Bowls, so. Like if you get healthy. It does, the difference between the best team in the NFL and the worst team in the NFL is a lot smaller than the best team in college football.

Absolutely, absolutely. But like I would ask, like going into Ohio State Michigan this year, if they're both really, really good, Yeah. how are you gonna possibly feel the same way if they're both really, really good, how are you going to possibly feel the same way? They're going to play again next week. Nothing's at stake.

Right? Yeah. How does that not hurt? And this is the thing I cannot answer. I can't answer it with live rights for the NBA or the NFL or like even people were theorizing, we had even heard like, how come these owners are selling these teams? Like, oh wait are They hearing that the new TV deal actually isn't gonna be that good

And you were hearing like a couple more teams were even available that haven't even been sold yet And I'm thinking like oh wait this might be the bubble like right He's a bubble expert post a big short and everybody just keeps him bubble bubble bubble read the book great job read boomerang You love that what's that that was the other my is it? I only read Michael Lewis book. I only read Michael Lewis books because they always make movies. They never did. I don't think, Boomerang's a tough script.

Maybe McKay can pull that one. I probably won't do it. So what's Boomerang? Boomerang is, I think, the extra research involved with different economic failures around the world. And it's so great because we're also reading it after the result, so it feels like every single page is like what, they thought this,

like this is the dumbest idea ever. Like they were gonna start some resort I think in Ireland and it was like near the water and there was like this one sheep farmer who lived there and they tried to start it all up and it was a fucking disaster and then the guy was like, I've lived here my whole life and I've never wanted to be here one day,

I didn't know why resorts were there. And then Greece guy was like, I've lived here my whole life and I've never wanted to be here one day. I didn't know why Resort was right there. And then Greece during their nonsense. They don't pay taxes. Yeah, and when I went to visit Greece, which was a long time ago, I just finished boomerang. So I was like, hey, what's the story with you guys? I know it's not a popular topic for me and my brand, but I was like, what's the story with you guys?

Well, these are international taxes. Yeah, yeah. You can do that. I was like, what's up with you guys here? You don't pay any taxes? And every guy I I was like, what's up with you guys here? You like, you don't, you don't pay any taxes. And every guy I met was the only guy in Greece that paid his taxes. He's like, no, I do, I do, I do, I do. I got to read boomerang then. Yeah. Although didn't Michael Lewis get, Oh no, it was the, it was the blind side. It came out way out. How did that not come out right away that he was like good friends with the twoies?

That was the whole thing. Oh yeah, I don't know. That all came out last year where it's like, oh actually he's like very good friends with the family and he just never said that. I love Michael Lewis books. Oh they're great. But, and I've had them on and I love the, he's been nice enough to come on with me,

but like when I read Moneyball, the first thing I thought of was like, how come Barry, Zito, Hudson, and Mulder never get fucking mentioned? Or Tejada, right? Yeah, but it was really about like you have three ones in your rotation Yeah, I'm making no money by the best way you drafted great pictures like they did They made the entire movie too. They didn't even show them on screen. I don't think right

You're not invited motor on the back And it just kind of speaks to like how we can all work like somebody had said this recently about John Oliver like John Oliver's Monologues are probably the best in the business. I saw this. All right, and they're unbelievably convincing until he does the one on the topic that you know. So if he did an NBA one, because my range is rather limited,

I was just trying to check the pre-mark in Japan going, I don't know what I'm fucking doing, like just go to bed. Like wait, so our yen debt is what? Like carry the tube, like you're fucked, just turn this off. When I saw that Oliver point, I was like, yeah, so our yen debt is what? I'd be like, carry the tube. Be like, you're fucked. Just turn this off. When I saw that Oliver point, I was like, yeah, maybe. If I knew more about, you know, international smuggling. But I don't, but goddamn, an accent.

Yeah, it's the accent. And a great set up on HBO. I can't hang with that. I saw that, and then it bummed me out because then I thought about people who listen to us who are experts in whatever we're talking about. And they're- Yeah, but you guys, you admit when you're not.

That's what you're saying. Yeah, we're actually very rarely wrong though. The craziest- Is it true? Very rarely. The craziest thing to me is that like when we go, when we travel, the amount of like NFL scouts or like college football, like coaches say they listen,

I'm like, why? Like, how could you just laugh at how stupid we sound? You have to think we're the dumbest people in the world. But you're not presenting yourself like the rest of us. I try to present myself as like, I've got it, and if I'm wrong, it only means the data was wrong, not the analysis. I think the scouting coaches like us

because they listen also to like serious sports talk radio with people that present themselves as geniuses and then we are just the much much more dumb version of that. Right. Hey look when a GM says he listens I apologize too. Yeah I always feel bad I'm like there's no way that we're saying anything that you think is interesting. Because think about like the way the media is covered like if they're in the world of podcasting and you or I Big Big Cat, will text each other and be like, can you believe, like, did you see this? Like, here's a perfect example, fuck it, I'll just say it,

because I think it's the funniest leverage leak of all time. There was an article recently about Stephen A's new contract and it was like, if they can't figure it out, he may go to politics, he may go late night, or he could get into acting. And you're like, you know what? You're like, that's one where you push back. And go, I mean, he's going to sign for a huge number

because he's really good and he's really valuable and he draws eyeballs, whether you love him or hate him, like he works. But acting, because he was on General Hospital a couple episodes, like, come on. We should do that for us, ourselves next contract. They might do porn. After I saw that, I was like, you know,

whenever I'm up here, I'm gonna leak. I'm gonna leak something to somebody I don't like. But when you see our world covered, it makes you just cringe. You're like, that's not even what happened. That's not how it works. And so even when we talk about sports for our entire professional lives,

like I can watch a game and have a feeling about a player, but the number of times where somebody's been nice enough to be like, hey, I heard about like what you said, and I understand how you got there, but actually like this guy was like doing this, and then this other thing, and you're just like fucking A. Yeah, we have no clue. Yeah, you have no clue.

So don't listen anymore, unsubscribe. Except Skip A-less, he knows what he's talking about. RIP Skip A-less. Are you okay? No, I'm not okay, thank have no song. So don't listen anymore. Unsubscribe. Well, except Skip Ailes. He knows what he's talking about. RIP Skip Ailes. Are you okay? No, I'm not okay. Thank you for asking. I think you guys appreciated it way more than I ever thought you would have. What do you mean?

Him. His whole thing. I never was the biggest Skip guy. PFT is more of a Skip guy. You just appreciate him. I appreciate him. I like the whole Skip thing. That's exactly right.

I don't like Skip Ailes. I don't, although he was very nice to me the one time I met him it was we were in Bristol. Yeah, you got some juice though. I did no no, I don't Everybody was kissing your ass. No, no, no prejuice pre us showing up. What's the data juice? Well, this was 2000 After 2017 was probably the date of juice. This was 2014. Yeah, so very pretty. Yeah, so no one knew what I looked like. What were you guys even doing there? So I went up there because we won an auction to do a behind the scenes tour of First Take.

And so I went up there, I just sat, I watched them tape the show, which was wonderful. It was the day that, what's the dude's name on the Jets, punch Geno Smith in the face. EK, yeah. EK in Impala or whatever. Yeah, broke his jaw. And then they had a very mature conversation about that. Skip and Steve and I just yelled at each other

for about three hours. And then afterwards, I went up, introduced myself to him, and then Skip just sat down, started asking me about where I'm from, what teams I like. And we talked. He didn't know you were in the media, though. He just thought you were a random guy. He thought I was a random guy.

But we talked for like 15 minutes and just had a conversation. He didn't have you were in the media though. He just thought you were a random guy. He thought I was a random guy. But we talked for like 15 minutes and just had like a conversation. He didn't have to do that. So I was like, OK, Skip seems like a good guy. But no, I've never been like a fan of Skip, but I appreciate how crazy he is. And what an insane person to have on TV. We're so lucky to get to watch this guy.

The one person in the history of the world that thinks that LeBron sucks and Tim Tebow is great. And there's nobody else that does that. But he truly believes that. I don't know if he truly believes that you're never going to get me there. You don't think so? Yeah, that's where I always falter where I'm like, I think he's he does a good job. When he said brawn, he's more clutch because of Call of Duty. Like, that's a great take. It's unbelievable. That's a great. I mean, Call of Duty? That's a great take. It's unbelievable. That's a great take.

I mean, I give him credit for getting there. Great take. Because I wasn't going to workshop that one on the iPad at any point. No. And, well, he beat Grant Williams, who I still don't know why Grant Williams is there. I had to double check to make sure that he wasn't in the summer league still. Well, not in summer league, but apparently he wouldn't leave the Call of Duty booth. Which is crazy. For days. I don't know. I'm not reporting that. Well, not in summer league, but apparently he like wouldn't leave the Call of Duty booth.

Which is crazy. For like days. Does that- I don't know. I'm not reporting that. Dog? Does he have that dog in him? Yeah, maybe he just is like, look, you guys can get shots up.

I will too. Yeah. What do you think about the fact that Brawny goes by Brawny? Like in the record, in the box score, it's B. James. It's not L. James. I hadn't really thought about it a lot. Yeah. You should consider that. We kind of blew our mind when we saw it. It's B James, it's not L James. Hadn't really thought about it a lot. You should consider that.

Kind of blew our mind when we saw it. By the way, another take that you were right about, bad idea for us to try to do anything with the ESPN. That was just me being competitive. That was our juice days. Yeah. We're gonna get back to Ryan Russo in a second. He's brought to you by our great friends over at Chevy.

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You just were like, be careful. I said, be careful. Yeah, you're right. Because one of the most fucked up things that happened when you guys were brought in, because it was hilarious. Like there's, and I think Big Cat and I have talked about this, I don't know if PFT and I,

remember we were talking about Moneyball and somehow we ended up here, but I don't mind. We were talking bubbles, I'm still aware, but I don't care anymore, because this is more fun. So when Big Cat and PFT showed up to ESPN, like, because the show was already gonna happen, right? And there was a guy in the talent department who I thought was like my guy.

And everybody on air was always trying to find like their person in the talent department to be like, hey, like when I'm up, can you, not that they going to name the price, but like, you needed a voice in the room. That was always the goal of ESPN. I need somebody with some fucking juice who has a voice in the room. That's going to be an advocate for me. And if you don't have that, it's never going to happen for you there. But they were also incredibly obsessed with whoever didn't work there and was killing. So there was a stretch where like, you guys are blowing up and they're thinking of like, how do we just hook into this? Right? And at that point, I still would

stay like ESPN has the draw. Like I still think ESPN is an incredible opportunity for people that want to be in it. I mean, let's not, let's not. There's something about being on TV, on live TV that it goes a lot of places that podcasts don't go. Whatever. You know, you can, you're gonna have issues no matter where you work. Okay. And when it's front facing, it also like puts an added pressure on it. But however I felt about like bigger picture things, when I walked in the door that day and was like, I'm gonna talk sports for three hours, like it was, I didn't have many, just was never like, I can't believe I have to work tonight. Okay. Right. But when you guys were walking around,, I didn't have many, just was never like, I can't believe I have to work tonight.

Okay? But when you guys were walking around, so I'll never forget this, now there's buzzing. And now it's every fucking on air guy going, what's going on with those guys? Like they're gonna be doing something here, like what's up? And we're becoming friends and we see each other,

we hug it out and I'm kinda like, oh. And I knew I was never gonna get like any special stuff so I didn't get too upset about it. And then a guy in the talent part was like, you're boys with them? And I was like, yeah, like, you know, we're boys. He's like, I gotta get Big Cat's cell phone number because I want to like talk to him.

And I was like, yeah, fucking done. I'll get you on a text thread tonight. And so the day wraps up. I think you were around or something. You came back to see me at the studio and another higher up saw that we were hugging it out in the cafeteria or something. And he was like, is there any way you can get those two guys

to join you once a week? Your contract's coming up, but if you could lock those guys in to visit you once a week, I'm like, I don't know. I may be kind of a big asker in New York every week. And so the guy that asked me to get your number, I go to Big Cat, and I'm like, hey, you've got to talk to this guy. He's really plugged in, kind of knows what's going on.

And Big Cat's like, yeah, dude, I've been talking to him for a month. He already negotiated a deal for the Van Talk TV show. And I was like, and what he was doing is he was actually covering his bases, trying to make me seem like he had nothing to do with giving me this opportunity. Because I would have been somebody they would have gone,

like, oh, Rossello's gonna be pissed when they get this opportunity. And the reality is, it's like, that was not an opportunitysello is gonna be pissed when they get this opportunity and the reality is like That was not an opportunity that I was gonna be given right I couldn't be mad about you guys getting a chance to shine there We were so fucking dumb. Yeah, we were dumb. We were so dumb. That's also so shitty You should have got paid for the entire thing That's shitty that they go like they're so concerned about playing the internal mind games and politics that they will like Gaslight you into thinking that things are happening one way when they've been operating like Game of Thrones behind the scenes Yeah, like nobody's true in a place like that the truth and I'm not even saying it's specific to them

I just think it's a management tactic. It's like wait the truth of like this is way worse than just Right. We gave these guys a TV show and like, I know you want a different opportunity. But at that point, like I knew, and I didn't want to get into all this stuff again. It's just that I told you, look out. Yeah. I was like, and we were dumb. Do you remember? We were so dumb. Do you remember the list of stuff that you gave us when you brought us on onto your radio show the first time? And it was like bringing outdoor cats inside at ESPN radio. And they, you guys had a very helpful list of things that we couldn't say or do on the air.

Do you remember that? I don't know if I wrote it. I think I was asked to give it to you guys. One of them was literally no peeing. Yeah. We weren't allowed to pee in the studio. And they had to write that down. Yeah.

Yeah, I didn't write that. Which, because that was Pissed Hugs era. No, no, it wasn't. This was not your doing. No, no. It was like, I don't know if. Because that was Pissed Dog's era. No, no, it wasn't. This was not your doing. It was like, I don't know if it was production or if it was. You know what would have been great? Because you don't know this at the time. It's still ESPN.

You're kind of figuring it out. But I mean, the joy in all of this story is that ultimately you didn't need any of it. No. It's the best thing. Right. Whenever we say it. But they had to ask you to not piss.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, right. That's where we. It's funny that they thought like yeah We should we should put this in writing and that we couldn't burn we couldn't like so we should push back You should have Hank be like hey most of this is good This thing I'm gonna have my attorney specifically

No, yeah, it's it sounds cliche But every time I anyone asked me I like, that was literally the best thing that could have happened to us, because we learned it very fast, early on, that our audience is our audience, and we don't need anyone else. And it's like that- And timing-wise too, that was right.

Like if it had been 10 years prior, you would have needed it. Correct. And actually you would have had the entry point that you have now, because 10 years ago, well, I don't know, we can get into this- No, but it's true. But like, the stuff moved so fast, and you know, because 10 years ago, well, I don't know, we can get into this. No, but it's true. But like, the stuff moves so fast,

and you know, whenever I was up, I remember there were times where like, it was getting down to the deadline of like, me having to say yes or say no, and you'd want your ego to get in the way, and then I'd be like, dude, if you don't get to go back, and you're gonna be like, starting your morning, watching Sports Center, like, be honest with yourself.

Yeah. You know, I was like, I don't care if she dates somebody else, you're like, yeah, you do. Yeah. And I was like, I don't care if she dates somebody else. You're like, yeah, you do. Yeah. And I would just resign until I didn't have to anymore. But we appreciate you having our back. There's only a couple people.

Well, I do mean that. I think there's always a lot of competitiveness. And I think sometimes jealousy can be good. Like it can be a driving force if you're competitive, but you don't want to let jealousy start telling lies. Like you guys are sitting there going back to like, I can't believe these guys listen. Your interviews are better than everybody else's.

They're better than mine. You know, I'll speak for myself. I'm not gonna start saying, this is why you're better than this, but you have in a very short amount of time, establish yourself in a way that you can interview things, but you're not like, I remember I tried to get one coach on with you. I was trying to help you. This is like pre-Ozron.

I'd never fucking do it now, but, um, we sold, we, we stole coach O from Ryan. Yeah. Yeah. But Pemansky gave him. Yeah, that's true. It was, it was tough for me because it was like right after they won the national championship and then we were like All walking and you guys were like setting up to interview Yeah, all made eye contact and then owes right-hand guy looked at me and it's like yeah

I've been the guy going to games out of my own fucking pocket for 15 years But no, this is cool, but I did I did help Derek get his next job. Did you? Well at that point he was your guy. Yeah, that's true So I got coach oh though in July and then they made me edit out the best answer So it's basically the same. Yeah, what was that answer? Oh How would he do against Tommy Moffat in a fight and it was awesome. The answer was incredible It was actually like the best part of the interview and then they called me after and they're like, hey, can we just cut it out? I go dude. no one actually thinks

Cocho is going to beat up Tommy Moffat. Yeah. Like it's the best part of the interview. Right. But because of my LSU ties, you know, I want to protect the family. Right, yeah. And then I was like, well, hopefully,

if you guys win another national championship, I can get him in the July after that one, too. Mm-hmm. So wait, what was his answer? Oh, he's like, I smacked the shit out of him. He said something like that. I mean, he gave you the perfect coach. Oh, answer the whole thing.

And it was, it was like, great. I think he also hyped up Trump a lot. They said, keep that in. We don't want to divide the Tommy Moffat. No, I think there was like randomly Trump came up. I did not bring it up. And then he was just like, yeah, he was here practicing and man, he'd make a hell of a football coach. I was like.

That's perfect. That's awesome. So seriously, you have no regrets at all leaving ESPN? I can't believe we're here again, because I feel like I've done all this already. I don't think we have. Yeah. I know, but I think I've done it.

Have you ever talked about Barstow-Vantogh and how you had our back, which I do like. Yeah, Ryan. That's something that forever will... You know, that was our lowest point, and you know the people that have your back, and you and Scott both had our back. And so whenever someone's like, oh, I thought you guys hated ESPN, it's like, well, I don't like ESPN, but there are some certain people there that I will die for.

And some of those people have apologized to you, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. Which I think is fascinating. Yeah. I've already talked a lot about this, so I know we haven't really done it. There's just not really anything left for me to say about it. It's been five years. The only day I've missed it, there

was only one day I was in my car where I was like, god damn, I wish I was on the air right now. It was after Westbrook sucked in an elimination playoff game. And I was like, today's- Live radio is- Live radio. There's something about it.

But I was thinking about this today because I was listening to live radio and I still listen constantly. Like dude, the day I was done, I was in the car listening to other people. Like I never, it was just time, okay? It was just time. And I had no idea if it was going to work out or not. I felt like the floor for me was fine. Right. I felt like, Hey, whatever my floor is, and I have other interests and all the other stuff

that I've tried to do and want to do. Um, which is certainly taking a lot of time too. But, uh, but I wasn't, because I was older, I really was at like peace and I kind of needed, I needed to just be gone. Yeah. Cause it wasn't- Cause you did the half in half out for a little bit. Yeah. And that was kind of the funniest thing at the end was cause the radio show was the end of 17 and I knew that was happening. So I was like, whatever. But then I was under contract and then my buddies were like, why don't you just go to the south, south of France that was happening so I was like whatever but then I was under contract and then my buddies were like why don't you just go to the south south of France for eight months I was like I'm not as I'm not like a big enough of a deal to just disappear for a year and then pop back up and then I did a podcast like after we all kind of calmed down after a couple weeks and it

was actually all like nobody was really mad or anything and look they wanted Stephen A and they didn't want me. I understand it. I was just too young. I was only 42, right? 42, 41, 42. And I'm like, I'm too young to be going in the wrong direction. And luckily the podcast kind of timed it out right. And I was able to move to Manhattan Beach,

which is something I've wanted to do for like 20 years when my buddy got traded here and I came to visit him and I went, I can't believe like this is a town that people live in. And so I was like, maybe you just move, you just move and that's it. I mean, it sounds lame, but I cut out a picture of like a real estate guide of like the dream home

in Manhattan Beach and I put it in my fridge in Connecticut and I looked at it like every day for five years. I know. Vision board. And you did it. Manifestation. And Life Advice happened, which is one of the best segments in any podcast. Not the most original thing, but it works because of Kyle and Saruti. And what made it good is that it was the wives and girlfriends that don't wanna listen to my NBA monologues were like, I went from walking down the street

to wives and girlfriends going, I fucking hate you. You're on in the house and in the car nonstop to, hey, you're the only guy we can agree to listen to on a road trip. We don't listen to the beginning part or whatever. That's, I mean, that just triggered a memory. The one of the greatest segments ever done the who's the jerk with you and SVP and in

Stanford Steve and the question of who hates you more Ryan women or men yeah that was unbelievable so bad you know what's funny though was like I missed that stuff because of course I felt like that was really cool stuff that we were doing. Like we did an entire segment of the show where we did like two segments or something. I go, let's just keep trying different shit. Like I remember pitching Who's the Jerk to Van Pelt in the parking lot at A&M for the Manziel Alabama game.

That was the rematch after he'd beat them in Tuscaloosa. And I was like really driven to constantly constantly with the radio show, be like, let's keep trying like different dumb shit. Like let's figure it all out. And then they'd be like, nah. And I'm like, how do you not understand how fucking funny who's the jerk was? Like it was so good. It was, and no one care.

No one in management, like, there wasn't one fucking person that went, hey, that thing you did today was awesome. Yeah. And that's when you're like, hey, I know this works. Like, my instincts are good. Like, why are you not understanding? But like, Mike and Mike were so dominant,

and every middle manager and up and management person loved Calhurd because he was more aligned with them, life experience, age-wise. And that's something you always have to remember like when you're in creative things like i think the best creative managers can be like i don't get anything you're doing right but it fucking works right so let's just keep doing your thing yeah Dave has never listened to a single episode of pardon my take no he doesn't know i exist. He doesn't. He doesn't. He's not for him. Can I tell you a Dave story? Yeah. So, I was back on my old stomping grounds of Vermont. Burlington means a

lot to me. I go back one year. Wait. I thought you. I think it's LSU. No. No football team at Vermont. So, I'm allowed to pick one. Got it. That's true. Yeah. You do get that. No football since 1974. So, there were a couple younger dudes that were excited that I was at my friend's bar, and I used to live like above it, and then I'd get stuck on a level of Grand Theft Auto, and I would walk down to his bar and like have a couple beers.

I'm like, I'm fucking stuck in the parking garage. I'd be like, dude, you gotta take the drone. And I'd be like, all right. And then I'd set my alarm at 1159 a.m. and be like all right up bright and early and this girl comes up to me she's like are you Dave Portnoy? All these younger guys are really excited and I was like I'm not. She was disappointed that I was not. Yeah you should have gone with it. Should I? Yeah. I'm like I used to love it when you did the the Boston accents. What segment was that UNSVP?

State of the nation state of the nation. Yeah, it's the nation. Yeah election year Yeah, pulse the nation. You have like dropkick Murphy's playing in the background Just yell at each other for like two or three minutes great radio show. It really was I don't enjoy my car during my lunch break. But like this is the kind of the lesson in all that stuff is that the show the first two years wasn't as good as people remember.

Yeah. Because that stuff takes a really long time. Like it actually takes a long time. And like Scott and I were not friends. He had just heard me filling in and he liked me. And there was this one segment I did, ironically, looking at everything that it said was the greatest Superbowl, greatest tournament, greatest golfer, greatest all these, although Tiger is probably a

pretty good choice at that time. And I went through like 12 different things. And I'm like, there's no way we're this lucky that we've had these 12 things happen in the last calendar year. Like there's no way we're this lucky. And Pham Pelt like called in, but we had like a hard break.

We couldn't take them. And then he saw me and he was like, Hey, that was really great we're this lucky. And Van Pelt like called in, but we had like a hard break. We couldn't take him. And then he saw me and he was like, hey, that was really great. And then he came up, they were gonna give him Trico's slot because Trico couldn't keep doing

everything that he was doing. And I still think Trico, if he just said, hey, I'm just gonna be radio guy, I think he would have been like the best radio talk show host, but he's doing the Olympics and world championships and everything. So that's probably a little bit cooler.

But I remember like, Scott's a watch everything guy. I'm a watch everything guy. Scott's probably a little insecure about transitioning from TV to radio. I'm insecure just cause I feel like, what do you guys think I'm the fucking help here? Like an elf in the North Pole? Like, oh, I got shit to say. Yeah.

And so we're the, we watch everything guys battling it out. And the show was OK. But there was this part after like two plus years where he told some story about like getting filmed by a bunch of like high school kids in little cross-off outfits in the Chipotle and West Hartford, and nothing makes it matter.

So he starts videotaping them back. I'm like, that's psychotic. Like, you videotape the kids back? What are you doing? He's like, well, how do you like it? And I'm like, yeah, but they're not on TV. They're not on one of the most popular TV shows in the country.

I go, tell this story. And you tell those stories, and then you start to realize you can watch games and have sports takes and all that stuff, but you have to figure out a way to get your personality in there and I mean you guys are the best example of that going but it's it's weird to get the buy-in if nobody knows who you are like day one I'm gonna be mr. personality who's gonna care about all these things but when you start fucking around more with radio shows yeah and podcasts and you just go

like the best segments we have are probably before we even start Live for Vice, we just check in with what Kyle's up to. That's the best stuff. Yeah, you wanna be... You wanna know more. You're investing that time. It's more than, like, when I explain to someone what my job is, it's like, pretty much just being a guy

that people wanna hang out with. That's the key, is like, we need to do a podcast where people want to listen and be like, I could be friends with those guys. Yeah. And you guys have a higher approval rating than I do. I don't think I don't know. I do pretty higher. We actually get a lot of that. You were talking about earlier, a woman coming up to be like, I can't stand you. There's so many people that we talk to. Like it'll be a guy that comes up, gets his picture taken and his girlfriend's taking the picture and she's like he makes me listen

You guys all the time. Yeah, we get that a lot too a lot We're really complementing each other a ton right now. Yeah. Yeah, so the real reason we had you on today's I'm having a fourth kid No, I'm just kidding. Fuck that. No way. Why not? You got the money for it It's not money it's four kids is a lot. There's a lot three kids. There's a lot. I'm here with a five threes a lot You think five basketball team for Rivers? You'd make a great dad I would you cuz I've heard JD Vance. He was calling you a cat lady. I Know he might lose me. Do you have a cat? What's your cat's name?

Be careful JD. You might lose Ryan. No, you know I named it Montezuma. I just got done reading Conquistador by Levi. You check it out. I don't know if you're you might have a cat. I think he does. Remember when we went to your house after COVID and we were the first people to be in your house in like three years? I know I gave myself an extra year of COVID. No one was built better for COVID than Ryan. No, my friend said the same thing. They're like, you're fine, right? Yeah.

But then I like, another year went by and I was like, are you guys are going out? Oh shit. Like, and then I, you start saying no to too much stuff. I'll tell you right now, if you're gonna be by yourself with a fucking cat, say yes to more stuff. Yeah. Because those calls stop coming in. And then all of a sudden you're like, all right, I don't have any kids and I don yes to more stuff. Yeah, those calls stop coming in.

And then all of a sudden you're like, all right, I don't have any kids and now I don't have any friends. Yeah. So yeah, I named the cat after Montezuma because I'd read this book and I'm gonna share something. I've been having a lot of colonizer guilt lately. You guys know what I'm talking about? Yep.

Yeah. Although I feel like Spain just gets a fucking pass big time, right? Big day in Spain absolutely does but it's only because they like they lost some wars in the United States Yeah, right the Netherlands too. Oh the Dutch are everywhere. Yeah, you know huge pack reserve You know who gets a pass is Belgium. Yeah reserve currency. It's crazy Tulips we you should do that. You should try that out just tulips No, hey, you know what? Why don't we talk about the Dutch? They colonized I may go there next year. We'll table it

Okay, we'll table it cuz I don't wanna get off the plane and be like, you know, it's fucking like, you know, there's the guy Helsinki, right? Yeah, so look a lot of weed Probably not It just never happened for me. Your red light guy? No. I don't I mean, would I admit it? Probably not. No.

At some point, at some point. That was almost an admission. At some point in a monologue, I feel like you'd let it slip. Yeah. If I did like the travel log and there's just a missing part. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be a good redacted file I would tip it off. Yeah

So you're turning away on Tuesday and then you skip So it's Friday. Let's pick it up hit the gym a couple times found this great court played with this guy So you turned 49 yeah, I mean big cat were. So it's like. I'm only, wait, I'm a full decade over you guys? Yeah. Fuck, I got started too late. When you're in the nines, you do, at least for me, when I turned 30 and I feel like I'm having the same experience turning 40,

I spend like the entire year when I'm 29 or 39 just thinking about like, oh shit, I'm almost 40. But then when I turned 30, I was like, oh, it's no big deal. yeah fuck it who cares but is there anything that you want to do that you want to like any new projects any new things you want to get into in your 40s I have good news that I can't share like it's incredibly good news very good news yeah yeah it's it's just not finalized yet and scream it means a lot to me.

He's getting a second cat. Cause the cat, you know how lonely the one cat is? This fucking guy's not gonna start dating somebody again. Your cat hates you? Well, it's just like, hey man, I can't be there for you all the time with the cat. Cats hate everybody. Not a dog.

I don't wanna go on a, I know the news, I kinda wanna go on a hate or revenge tour on your behalf. Would you give me permission? Yeah, absolutely. Okay, once I might do that, but I just don't know Like if I really everything I'm trying to do everything I'm trying to do like you get the yes, and it's like yeah We need the bigger. Yes now. It's yeah, it's just it's like fucking Qbert But just let me know because I'll hit that button I already do that to me all the time when you send me a tweet knowing

that I'm going to quote-tweet it. I use some Jedi mind trick stuff on mine. Ryan's like, this guy pisses me off, so he just sends it to me and I'm like, oh fuck, it's on. Or the Dune voice. Can somebody confirm, did Star Wars rip off Dune? I haven't seen a second of either one.

There's not one guy in your crew that doesn't know the answer to that. I don't know what Dune is. I've never seen Dune. Yes, he said yes. Hank said yes. So so that's true because I read something that was fairly convincing But I don't know that I want to be convinced of anything anymore Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at with this flow of information. You could be telling me the best shit ever I'm like, I don't want to yeah, I don't fall for it. I don't get too high too low

But yeah, I have the these aren't the droids you're looking for and big cat will just send the tweet Yeah, like hey, you know, it'd be funny tweet is this. And then he just does it. It's a good attack dog. And then I just end up online for the next three hours, like fight. I didn't even mean to do it originally until he kept doing it, then admitted it. And then I was like, all right, well now this is like too much fun. Well, congratulations on the big news. Well, I, there's now I need bigger news. Yeah. The first part of the big news is, is, is a big deal for me. I'm very happy about that. I probably need to keep pushing myself professionally

to fill whatever fucking void some therapist would tell me that I have, which I can already figure out on my own. So, um. No, you don't need a therapist. No, I'm good. I already know everything they would say. It'd be pretty fucking obvious.

And I'm like way happier than I've, I mean this isn't the question you're asking me, but like to the specifics of like, the age thing, it's funny, cause I was the youngest guy until all of a sudden overnight I was like, now I'm older than everybody. But that's also because most people are like,

people with kids don't invite you to stuff because they don't think you would even want to go right? Why would you even want to come to this? but I I've worked really hard on this thing and we'll see all right. So we got to wrap this up I mean, it's it is awesome. We love you Ryan row back question last question and we'll get out of here We love you Ryan row back question last question and we'll get out of here Alright, so B a C k.com promo code take 20% off first purchase cues his polos hoodies joggers shorts one answer who wins the NBA title next year who

That is spicy. Yeah, that's already you know, you've used all your words One one answer One one answer Just want to be a team it could be a team it could be a one guy North America North America I think it's really really tough to repeat. So I'll just say nuggets. Oh Okay, I like it Did you bracket ology for football? It's gonna be challenging. Yeah. I love how the other sports try to capture

the magic of the 64 teams. You can't do it. And like, NFL.com will have them, like, hey, did you finish your bracket? And be like, okay, it's done. Yeah, but listen, there's a spot here now because Joe Linarity, he pissed me off last year. He admitted that he was going to sleep during a conference

final game and it was just like, what, what do you mean you're sleeping? It's the one day he has to literally, this is, this is it. You get one week. He's like, I'm going to bed. Like what the fuck Saturday Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, the night Max and I were so mad Saturday conference. So he was like going to bed. Like what the f I think it was, he missed the Oregon, uh, that, that crazy triple overtime game or no, that was in the tournament. Either way, he went to sleep on conference championship Saturday. And uh, so someone, some young whippersnapper is there for the taken young whippersnappers are everywhere. Yeah. You know what? They're also cheaper too. That's true. They are.

Placement level whippersnapper. Yeah, I don't know. I imagine there'll be somebody that they'll try, and I mean this in general, of like, A, we're gonna pretend that the projection of the 12 teams is like, dude, I could do this in five minutes, it's not that fucking hard. Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, Texas, Michigan.

I just can't wait for the 12, 13, 14 team arguments. Maybe Tulane. And there's gonna be a 14. Colorado. Like a team ranked 14th, you're like, you stink. You haven't beaten anyone. And you want a chance for the national championship. Don't forget about the six point loss to Ohio State.

Right, when they were up 14. Yeah. It went for two. All right, Ryan, you're the best. Thanks a lot, guys the six point loss to Ohio State. Right when they were up 14. Yeah. They went for two. Alright, Ryan. You're the best. Thanks a lot guys. Everyone go subscribe to his podcast. Ryan Russo podcast. Uh and yeah, let's go celebrate your birthday. Sounds good. Mount Rushmore is brought to you by Buffalo Wild Wings. Book your fantasy football draft party at Buffalo Wild Wings to get a fantasy championship ring. Book at buffalowildwings.com slash fantasy.

B-dubs is football. Let's go sports bar. Book at buffalowildwings.com slash fantasy. That's buffalowildwings.com slash fantasy. Okay, Mount Rushmore time. It is getting late and tight. In the Mount Rushmore time. It is getting late and tight in the Mount Rushmore season. We have six Mount Rushmore's left. The standings are Max, who's clinched, 61 points. I have 53 points. PFT has 45, Hank has 41. So Hank is four behind PFT. Yep.

Reminder, the points go four, three, two, one. So Hank, if you win this and PFT loses this Mount Rushmore, you'll only be a point behind. So each one matters. It does matter. And I'm not clear either. I could have an all-time choke job and falter down the last six ones. So Hank we let Hank pick this one. Yep. He's went with Mount Rushmore of

best feelings and Hank is up first. Weirdly go for it Hank. Yeah. Well first how are you feeling? I feel bad. I feel I feel nervous. I feel paranoid. But I feel bad. I feel I feel nervous. I feel paranoid But I feel excited I'm excited to have the opportunity to try and make the most of the season and go on a late-season run Yeah, well guy talk right there. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm honored to have the opportunity Yeah, and you are um, it's got a peek at the right time I am excited I am happy that we had the the moment of clarity a couple weeks ago, or maybe it was last week,

where you just came clean on the fact that you're bad at this, so you lash out and you accuse everyone else of everything, because tonight when we were picking it, you came in and accused us of... Cahoots. Cahoots. Cahooting against you. Well, there's been a couple times where you're like, pick one and then I pick one and then you just say what you want to do.

No, we ended up with what you wanted to do. I know, I know, but that, I was... Hey, okay ended up with what you wanted. I know I know but that I was Okay, wait, wait, wait, don't wait flag. Yeah, I go on the play Thank you pf because because Hank gets coddled to and catered to that's more than anybody in my rush him happy It's always it's always big cat being like Hank. What do you want to do? Yeah? What do you want to do you want to do? What do you want to do? You are coddled when it comes to Mount Rusty. The only reason I said today- And you know it's true. No, how many of the Mount Rusty ones have

I picked this year? Hank, the only reason I protested tonight- Like I picked the food ones? I think we've done this before. Which was a different one, which we're not doing. But then you admitted that it was too close. So. So I was right. Right. So apologize. But you still want to do Mount, yeah, I apologize. I was trying to help you with the other one. No, I said I'm paranoid. I said I'm paranoid.

I said I'm paranoid. I said we should do Mount. I'm still not not paranoid, but I'll admit that I am paranoid. You're blindly accusing cahoots. I said that we, I offered up a, because I did ask you to pick. Felt like cahoots. Well, I asked, I said we should just do the Mount Rushmore of words that start with B so you could pick boobs one one. I wasots. Well, I asked you- I said we should just do the Mount Rushmore of words that start with

B so you could pick boobs one-one. I was trying to be your friend. But I wasn't in the room. This is- this is also nonsense though. It doesn't matter for the podcast listeners. Oh, they love this. Behind the scenes. Are you kidding me?

This was a conversation. I was in the bathroom taking care of business. You guys were in the same room and Big Cat was usually when he's like pressing to do something that he wants to do. All of a sudden PFT, who was in the same room with Big Cat cat it felt like they guys had come to a game plan and then said you know What I was impressed I? Said I said that was a good topic and I wasn't pressing I said let's do b-words you can get boobs alright So it's so in conclusion Hank when we say you are paranoid. I told you when we say let's don't do this topic

You're like that's bullshit. Then when we say yeah, let's do that topic you're like It's all I know I was good with it I'm like alright, but I felt like hoots like usually when you guys let me you guys when you guys Like okay, it sounds like we can't exist usually when you guys are like, you know, he's exactly right. I told you I was paranoid You are paranoid. Okay Hank best feelings Mount Rushworm I also feel like I figured out the cahoots But we can get to it. There's no cahoots. No, I will get to it at the end because I could be wrong I probably am. You are

My motto is anytime, anywhere. I'm just running the ball. I'm going with the theme, you know the listeners I hope appreciate it I'm just going with feeling boobs I knew he was gonna do that That's why I said the B word. You left a massive I know yeah, I realized that. You left a massive... I know, yeah. You left a massive gap at the second pick. Now Max gets 1-1. This is your three Mount Rushmore topics that you wanted to do was simple pleasures, best

feelings, and then I was like, let's just do B words. Because you just want to do one that you get boobs. Yeah. Okay. I cannot believe... I almost don't even want to take this what are you doing? What are you doing? I? He just his brain is just thinking this is the boobs. He's like if I get boobs I win

That's why we should have done be one now. I know I know what what was that Hank This is the most obvious one you pick this because it What happens after yes, that is what feels better just a pressure. That's a high-pressure situation The most obvious one you pick this because it Is what feels better just a pressure that's a high-pressure situation no, it's not Having sex one one What does that include? sex You want what do you want like head? Yeah get your dick sucked. Well your ass eatin So this is just gonna be like different forms of sex throughout this entire

Rushmore no no we'll all get sex and he'll just have feeling All right, so max you get all of sex yeah, I mean I don't care I I don't care I know you get all of sex take all sex just so it's a little bit of variety on this Mount Rush. All of sex except TF Yeah, you hate that do you I knew that's I realized I realized when did you realize I? Just that's what I said. I'm sticking. I stuck to it. I kind of realized I know your brain so well that when you said best feelings I was like that's what you guys talked about in the room

All I said was pfd and made that conversation happened in the game. Here's exactly the conversation. I was right about the, no, you weren't because you said best feelings and I said PFT, he just wants to take feeling boobs. So why don't we just do B words? But then why did PFT said feeling? Cause he was like, he is, I knew you were going to take boobs and then max was going to have that. And that conversation happened, correct? Yeah. Because it was like he is I knew you were gonna take boobs and then max was gonna and that conversations happened, correct? Yeah, because it was obvious what you're good. It's not cohoots. We just accurately so stupid you are Yes, not cohoots But you guys are acting like when the weatherman is like it's gonna storm later on today or you like that weatherman's in cohoots with God

Let's just get on I think Hanks doing this on purpose for content Yeah, the way that that I cannot believe that you just did that. So wait, there's no way you're this dumb. Your vision of Kahootz, you knew what the wrong pick to make was and you still made it. Well, no, he didn't know until after. You hear the part where I said I was paranoid? Yeah, he didn't know until after.

Oh, I, yeah, whatever. You still took feeling boobs. Yeah. Which is a good feeling, I'll give you that. Yeah great feeling fourth round pass feeling. Yeah Okay, so Max has sex and Hank has feeling boobs. It's a good pick Max. I Still don't believe that Hank did that like that had to have been on purpose. Yeah, okay There's a lot of good feelings. There are a lot of really good. I got a lot of feelings Me too. Yeah.

Okay, I'm going to go with right when you get drunk. Mm. That's a good feeling. The moment you get drunk. That's a good feeling. So just being drunk. Yeah.

Drinking. Drinking. Drinking is my choice. Drinking. Drinking beers. That's a good pick. I like that one. Yeah drinking drinking drinking is my is my choice drinking drinking beers That's a good that's good pick. I like that one. Thank you. I like that one. It's no sex. Um, okay, so I have two Okay, um All right When the perfect song comes on

When the perfect song comes on, when the perfect song comes on, it could be at a party in your car. Like, you know when it happens, when the perfect song comes on for the vibe. But matched the, that'll be the exact pick when the perfect song comes on for the vibe. It could be nostalgia, anything. There's just no better feeling than just like, damn this song. And then my second one, I'm gonna go with the 30 minutes before the NCAA Tournament tips off. That's a good pick.

Great feeling, great fucking feeling. Everything's awesome. I'm gonna win everything. This is the next, the best four days of the calendar year. Just love that feeling, bottle up that feeling, sell it. I would take it over feeling boobs. Not me. Okay. You don't like sports. I love sports. And you love women. I love sports. Okay, PFT, your next pick.

All right, my next pick is going to be your dog greeting you after you've been gone for a long time. Good pick. Good pick. Had it on there. Yeah. Yeah. It's a wag at the door. Great moment. Blake does his tail in a circle when he's really happy. Yep. When I get that circle tail going He cuddles in. Yep, you feel like the king of the world jumping on you. Yep. It's great pick max I'm gonna go. Oh, that would be great. He's did picking meatballs in another draft. I've won I wanted to go winning a championship. Yep. Okay, that's a great as a fan great feeling as a fan or a person playing I'm just gonna say winning a champion. There's a difference. I think

No, you could take a winning a championship winning a championship. You're you're the fans are part of the team. That's true Yeah, we say we big part of yeah, they're actually the team right Hank I'm gonna go with waking up Christmas morning as a kid had it that would be my next good pick Hank. I'm going to go with waking up Christmas morning as a kid. Had it. That was going to be my next pick. Good pick, Hank. Here we go. Let's rebuild.

And payday. Oh, nice. Yeah. Nice one. Nice one, especially if you don't pay taxes like Hank. Payday's extra. I got zero. Okay.

Good picks, Hank. Thank you. Kind of bringing this back around. I think. Yeah. I'm going to go leaving work as you start a vacation. Yep. Yep. That's a good pick. No, I'll actually push back a little on that just in the fact that I hate traveling. Okay. Like I like getting to the like getting to the

vacation like opening the hotel room yeah you're like landing at the vacation is my feeling arriving at a vacation destination I don't know that I think it's more so it's less so for us but more so for people who have like a nine-to-five but like five o'clock hits yeah on like and you're and you know you have a week off is got, it's like the best. Yeah, I just hate traveling so much. All right, I'm gonna go similar kind of to Max's pick,

quitting a job you hate. Mm, good one. It is a great feeling. Especially that drive away from work. I remember when I quit my job that I hated, the last job I hated, it was, I don't think I can ever replicate that feeling in my life. Yeah, great one. I would ever replicate that feeling in my life.

Yeah. Great one. I would do that over touching boobs all day. Great one. All right. I got two. I got one that I have to do that you guys are probably going to be like, ah, but I have to do it. But here's the other one. This one tells me this is kind of the inverse of winning a championship. This is showing myself as a loser, but watching your enemies or rivals fail is a great fucking feeling.

Your enemies or rivals? Yeah, enemies slash rivals fail or lose. I thought you were saying enemies or rival, like when Aaron Rodgers went out on the field the first time with jets Yeah, what watching your enemies slash rivals lose is such a great feeling. It's just a great great feeling. Yep Okay, I'm not rush more of hater moves would be good. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one All right, I will do

Okay, I won't do the kids one. I'll save the kid ones for honorable mention. I'll keep it straight here. Walking into a bachelor party, that first hour of a bachelor party where it's just, you can't get better vibes. You're not hungover yet. It's similar to the NCAA tournament.

Yeah, it's just like, this is gonna gonna be awesome old friends you haven't seen him forever everyone's ready to fucking rage no one's you know cuz by like day two you've already lost a couple people yeah there's some stragglers day three you're like I just get me the fuck out of here but when you walk in like that Thursday night oh drink a million beers usually Usually the reason, usually the vibes are so high when you walk in that it ruins the rest of the bachelor party because you drink so much. You're trying to chase that. Yeah. Yeah. Should I take becoming a parent? I feel like that

wasn't my one, but feel like it's gotta be. I might save for Hank. I'll save for Hank. Yeah. What do you mean? Yeah. You can take becoming a parent. Why would I take that? OK. That's a good feeling. I had a parent one I'll save for honorable mentions. I wanted to go straight. I wanted to play on the equal playing ground.

OK. I will go with. You can take it. I'm not going to take it. You won't. You're right. I won't. I'm going to go with getting a call or text after a first date from somebody

that you really like. Nice. When she texts first. Maybe after feeling her boobs? Maybe you haven't felt the boobs yet, but that's a sign that you will feel. You could be feeling... That's pre-boobs. That's pre-boob. Holy shit. You get really excited about feeling those boobs. That's a great feeling. Just anything that implies boobs will be felt. Yeah. Yeah. This is mine's going to be pretty niche. Okay. But I don't care. I already punched. When your rivals favorite player signs with your team. Nope. It's best feeling in the world is hitting a home run. Ah, I did have a walk off home run. Just like, yeah, just like the feeling like the split second when you know you got one and it's like, fuck yeah, that rocked. Yeah. When it hits. Yeah. Okay. Hank, your last pick. I will go with finding cash in a pair of pants. You haven't worn a long

time. Wow. Okay. Hey, so payday and that. You're rich. You're greedy. Money is great. Yeah. Money is a great feeling and either seeing money in your account or you put on a pair of pants, you're like, you know, maybe it's the spring. You haven't worn these shorts since last summer. 20 bucks. Boom. Can I throw one out that I thought you were going to pick there? Sure. I mean, puring a drive is such a great feeling. Yeah, it is. Hole in one?

I'd rather purer drive. Hole in one. Yeah, hole in one. I mean, we've never felt that. It'd be stolen Valor, yeah. Yeah, that would be stolen Valor. But puring a drive was on my list where it's just like when you fucking just crush one down the middle, there's no better feeling. It's's true I thought you'd have at least a golf maybe you just don't love golf no I

don't boobs are golf for the rest of your life come to your head can never touch a boob again or can never golf again can I do the other stuff can never touch a boob again can never to golf again wait did you just admit that sex is better three two one go decide yeah, you did I said that three two one Golf oh you never golf again you'd never touch a boob again if I could do the other stuff I never touch a boob again Wow Not even you never touch a boob again. I mean golf. There's a lot of yeah, I know you didn't take any golf I Wasn't like things that you could feel for the rest of your life Best feelings in the world. I take I take I take boobs. Yeah boobs. Definitely boobs are so good. Yeah

They're pretty much the one one pick in almost every draft Honorable mentions my kid one wasn't kids being born. It's actually maybe it should have been but it's watching Your kid accomplish something is like the best feeling ever like just your kid being happy or feeling like they did something and like being proud of it is That one just bottle up and just be a billionaire. Yeah overnight. What other ones you guys have fallen in love What other ones you guys have fallen in love fall in love? You're a love guy personality yeah Nailing a parallel parking spot. I had that in front of a crowd. Yeah, when there's people watching you

Finding out that it's gonna be a snow day Yeah as a kid having a great shit just one of those like shit skit like where you just feel 10 pounds Yeah pissed too, but when you just feel 10 pounds yeah pissed too but when you feel like 10 pounds lighter just peeing when you really have you really have to be that obviously that's I know I had a bunch of sleep ones when I realized I didn't want to just do all I had a sleep like going to sleep with nothing to do with no alarm yeah no alarm waking up fully rested that was an incredible feeling I haven't felt in forever what about this one you guys going over a big jump When you feel it in the bottom of your balls

You know what I'm talking about Like or like a or being on a swing set or roller coaster roller coaster at the bottom of your balls Oh, that one's a good feeling hypothetically successfully sneaking into Sporting event. Yeah is one of the best feelings ever. Breaking the law. Fuck. Should have had breaking the law on the list. Breaking the law and getting away with it is a great one. Getting away with a crime. Sunday night of a long weekend? That's a great

feeling where you're just like your body tells you like, oh shit, we got to go to, oh shit, we don't. Another day. Sunday night of a long weekend is a great feeling. Sunday night when you have Monday off. Yeah, I mean I have a long weekend Sunday night Sunday night when it's you have Monday off Yeah, it's a great for the last day of school as a kid last day like cool waking up Sunday after winning that Saturday Yep. Yeah. Yeah hitting a big hitting a game of the year taking off Spanx Yeah, let it breathe for a little bit. I took off my Spanx last night after the wedding and I just oh microwave thing when you when you when you time it any time when you time it and you and you get it right before the

Yeah, yeah thing goes off hitting all the traffic lights. Oh Yeah, that's a good one good feeling being at a game that you know is like historic is a good is like Like either a clinching walking into a big game. Yeah. Whoa, that's a great one Oh, there's when you see the grass That green through the state on course, that's a great one Yeah, when it's like super sunny and you're really hungover. I had one that we've all experienced a Schwab or home run. Yeah. Yeah, there's a great feeling great thing to root for a fucking feeling I had when your car starts

Yeah, maybe niche, but it's a good feeling. Yeah when the food comes to your table. Yeah restaurant Yeah, oh or also when you do the move where you go with the foods taking a while and you go to the bathroom And then you come back and it's there That's a great feeling when the wind that perfectly when the server tells you excellent order. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good feeling What else any any others pure in your drive How do you feel it? How you feel? I think Hanks was good. I think I think you did a good job What's bad? Yeah, the red zone countdown clock the first half of the season. Yeah

The single single onion ring in a french fry order going to you. Yeah, yeah It's great feeling going to a post Super Bowl winning the party with the team Yep, I imagine that'd be fun ringing a bell at a lighthouse Leading your favorite sports team onto the field. Mm-hmm. Yeah, the Patriots also just stole the bell for the Sixers Like why like why is it a bell? It's a fair question. He's like what is it a bell? It's a fair question. He's been like what is this? Yeah? It's been since bells are in fucking lighthouses lighthouses our representation of the region of New England wait, but hey you You just said that the Patriots were your favorite team. I

Thought the Celtics were your favorite team the next one Say the next one The favorite football team the next year Making great time on a drive Yeah, really. Oh, yeah, when you're just like I fucking crush that drive I thought of one of like I didn't really know how to explain it When you get somewhere and a line builds after you oh, there's no line Yeah, you I don't really know how to explain it, but it's a great that's a great feeling. That's a great great feeling

Okay, this is a good Mount Rushmore donating charity. Yeah matching Matching a donation. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, but actually better great feeling matches actually feels better doubling doubling matching yeah, it was way better Telling everyone you've donated charity Yeah way better telling everyone you've donated charity. Yeah, it's great. Giving your seat to a troop on a flight in front of Peter King and having him write about it in his football column. Yeah, that's great. It's got to be a good feeling.

It's a great feeling. Imagine taking steroids would be a great feeling too. Yeah. Any anything with that, Hank? Not yet. That'll be September. Okay. Yeah, because Hank turned to me yesterday and said it might be steroids time. Steroid season and fake.

I'll make a call to a colleague of ours. All right. Good, good. Uh, good sport. Good show boys. Uh, we'll see you on your path too. Yeah. We'll see everyone from camp. See everyone from camp, Wednesday. Let's finish off with numbers 69 and three in his honor 20 356 99 pug PFT 98 oh, yeah, I want this to be 98. He got it for the fifth time. It's gonna be 98. It's it's pug. It's not the number

98 or 86 that's 98 at the bottom. It's on the bottom. Oh my god. What is fuck? My god, what is far God? You are it is just me pug oh my god, you're fucking magician dude pug is a problem. How did you do that? It's 98 Pftd 198 Yeah, you can take 99 back. Oh, you just need to have pug tell you what number to pick. I Can't say this is it doesn't matter't matter because whatever you do on different numbers is insane. I got to get out of 99. You are. It's yours again. Pug. This guy just dominates this machine. I'm hot. What a legend. Fucking pug. He's the perfect guy to have this too. Yeah. God damn it. Pug. That'sug, he's the perfect guy to have this too. Yeah.

God damn it, Pug. That's the most impressive thing I've ever seen. Just walks in after six. He's got six. Yeah, you gotta go to the Jordan. Six. He's got a, he just, spread your fingers out, Pug. What are you doing?

There you go. All right. He just walks in at the end of the show and just gets the number. Just walks out. Does Pug things. Goes scratching his ears. Goes and licks his butt hole. Yeah. All right. He just walks in at the end of the show and just gets the number just walks out does pug things go scratches ears Those plays mix is all but it's All right, good job bug. Love you guys Today's a day to party Shying away, I'll be coming for your love, okay

Shying away, I'll be coming for your love, okay Take on me Take me on I'll be gone Into your dreams Needless to say I'm odds and ends But I'm odd in settings, but I'm me, stolen away Slowly learning that life is okay Say after me, it's no better to be safe than sorry

Say after me, it's no better to be safe than sorry Take on me Take me on I'll be gone In a day or two 2, 2, 2 And I'll see you next time. you