Pardon My Take - Ryen Russillo, Super Bowl Story Lines, And Fyre Fest Review
Episode Date: January 23, 2019The Super Bowl is still a week and a half away but we have all your story lines that you'll undoubtedly get sick of (2:31 - 14:12). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Big Cat's night hanging with Lil Uzi ...and Meek Mill at the Sixers/Rockets Game (14:12 - 27:59). Ryen Russillo joins the show to break down the Fyre Fest documentaries on Hulu/Netflix. Craziest moments, most interesting characters, and would you have gone to Fyre Fest if you were the right age? (27:59 - 74:29) Segments include bachelor talk for guys that dont watch the bachelor, mike greenberg's dumb rules fixing overtime and Guys on Chicks. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take, it is the week before the Super Bowl, so we're stuck with
nothing.
We're going to get to all the Super Bowl storylines that you're going to get sick of.
And we have a special guest, Ryan Rousseau, our good friend.
He comes on to talk about the Firefest documentaries, both on Hulu and Netflix.
One of the funniest stories probably that has happened in a long time, the fraud that
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So if you've watched it, even if you haven't watched it, you'll enjoy it because it was
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Well, people lost millions of dollars, but whatever, it was a fun story.
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Welcome to part of my take presented by your ad here today is Wednesday.
January 23rd and we're ready for the Super Bowl, but the Super Bowl is like 10 days away.
Yeah, but we're ready.
We're ready.
We're in a state of mind.
We're ready.
We're feeling the zen of the Super Bowl coming right down Main Street, but we've got the
Pro Bowl this weekend, which is very important.
Very important game.
I used to love the Pro Bowl when it was after the Super Bowl because it was like grasping
at one final straw of football.
And there would always be that you'd get up for like the first several plays of it.
It was a nice come down.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like if you're slamming heroin, check into a methadone clinic before you go cold
turkey.
It's like a 3am slice of pizza after the bar.
Just kind of ease your way into your sleep.
So we, with that said, we have our Super Bowl storylines that everyone's going to hate by
the end of the Super Bowl week that we're going to get to before anyone else.
We also have Ryan Racille on to talk Firefest and guys on checks, but let's do the storylines
first.
Let's start with the obvious ones.
Let's go obvious to least obvious.
Okay.
Sean McVeigh is from Georgia.
That is obvious.
Got it.
And everyone's going to talk about how he, the state title that we talked about, he won
that by the way.
He did.
Confirmed winner and the bowl haircut.
And also a little extra Sean McVeigh, that stat where Sean McVeigh actually played Julian
Edelman in a Mac game.
Sean McVeigh was a wide receiver, Julian Edelman was a quarterback.
Wait, no, Julian Edelman, he's a wide receiver.
No, he played quarterback in college.
Shut the fuck up.
Yep.
Now for that trick play.
Okay.
Wow.
Okay.
Who says you don't learn anything from podcasts?
Damn.
So there's the first one.
What do you got for most obvious?
I'm going to one up you on that one.
Yeah.
More Sean McVeigh, Georgia talk.
Can't get enough of it.
He was a child who is in attendance.
The last time the Super Bowl was played in Atlanta at the Georgia Dome and who won that
game?
Uh, that's right.
The Rams.
St. Louis Rams.
The Rams in their throwbacks.
That's right.
Which they will be wearing again.
That's incredible.
Another one, that same Rams team, guess what, shut up, they played in the Super Bowl against
the Patriots.
No way.
Yep.
That's crazy.
So that could be the beginning of their run and the end and the end.
That's another one.
The bookend.
It's going to be a Rams bookend.
Um, here's another one, uh, Rams head coach Sean McVeigh, since we're on that promises
to bloggers a Super Bowl suite and then never contacts them and leaves them, uh, cold outside
the stadium.
Wow.
I don't think that one's going to get old actually.
No, I don't think so either.
The rest of these are going to get old.
That one's got legs.
That one's got a lot of legs.
The cover up is worse than the crime, Sean McVeigh.
Yes.
That's how they got Nixon.
What else we got?
Uh, youngest head coach versus oldest.
Is Bill Belichick the old?
Well, Pete Carroll is older.
But he's a year older, but he doesn't count because it looks like he's 20.
It's the biggest, uh, age gap.
Okay.
Okay.
Sean McVeigh younger than us also should be mentioned and part of birthday week also
should be mentioned.
Big story.
He has the same birthday as the two guys from part of my take huge storyline for Super
Bowl.
Basically.
Basically.
Essentially.
That's in the parentheses.
Uh, how about this?
This one, and Hank, I'd love for you to chime in.
Anytime Tom Brady gets back to the Super Bowl, the TB12 method gets discussed at great
length.
So I think we will have at least one or two stories about what's his name, the, the, uh,
trailer.
Gerrero.
Gerrero.
Funny how we were having like talked about him this year.
Yeah.
No, but he's coming back.
Yeah.
But he's also going to want to get actually to the Super Bowl, because then they'll have
to change their name.
This name, Tom Brady, he's gonna, there's gonna be some stories.
Hank, yes.
Dead stories.
Yeah.
Um, I'm just saying this is Super Bowl stories, story lines.
Another one.
The saints should be here.
Mmm.
So we're going to be talking about the saints, that talk is going to die down after media
day.
Yeah.
There, there will be more of it.
We need more of it.
We need more of it.
We've got, uh, we've got attorneys from New Orleans suing the NFL.
A class action lawsuit.
We've got attorneys from New Orleans buying billboards in Atlanta saying that the Saints
were robbed.
So, here was the suit they mentioned in the damages, the Saints ticket holder lawsuit
against the Roger Goodell in the NFL, mental anguish and emotional trauma, loss of faith
in the NFL, that's fantastic, loss of enjoyment of life.
I actually like that.
People who are not sports fans will be like, that's a little severe, man.
No, when your team loses like that in the playoffs, just cross off the next three months
of your life.
Can we just sue the NFL for having the season end, for loss of enjoyment?
Right, loss of entertainment, distrust of the game.
Wow, that's a big one.
Listen, you can file all the lawsuits that you want to, you can talk about your little
Saints not winning the NFC championship game, but when you start to tell me that you don't
trust Roger Goodell, you're just full on loony bin.
Bridge too far.
Bridge too far, baby.
All right, what else you got?
Okay, my next one is I am expecting a lot of talk from Northern riders, especially from
the Northeast, who are experiencing Southern food for the first time.
So you'll see what is grits called?
Oh man, shrimp and grits.
This is wild, grits are a thing.
Chicken and waffles.
Like Atlanta is in the middle of a farm somewhere.
Right, also, it's actually a very major metropolitan city, they have restaurants.
Don't forget, the weather will be discussed because guess what, it's not as cold as Minnesota,
but we all thought it was going to be a lot warmer than it is.
Damn.
You'll also get one or two people saying the Super Bowl should be in Miami or New Orleans
every year.
New Orleans or Vegas, which I agree.
I actually agree with that, but I'm still going to make fun of those takes.
That's because it's a vacation for us.
Not really.
Sean McVeigh's memory, Todd Gurley versus CJ Anderson, is there a feud?
There's some things there.
Okay.
Is Los Angeles big enough for the two of them?
That's a one-star town.
Oh, we're going to see if, is this the tipping point for the Los Angeles Rams to truly become
Los Angeles' team?
I had on my list, there's going to be a reporter that goes to St. Louis to interview the old
Rams fans to find out if they're happy or not.
There will also be someone in Stan Cronkey's crew who hires someone to write a glowing piece
on Stan and how it was a tragedy that he had to move out of St. Louis because the state
wouldn't pay for his own fucking stadium.
And his hair looks great.
Yeah, great.
No, don't mention that.
No, don't even mention it.
No, his hair.
Because it looks great.
Don't mention it.
It's awesome, though.
Because we don't even...
I just want to point out that his hair looks great.
He's an elderly man.
Why wouldn't it look awesome?
I've also got on my list that Tom Kreen's going to hang out with Belichick at some point.
He's down in Athens.
Yeah.
He's going to show up.
Okay.
It's a bolo, be on lookout for Tom Kreen's face popping up somewhere around the Super
Bowl.
I like what you did there.
I thought of Phil Rivers for a second.
Belichick went to the Timberwolves game last year on the Friday night before, maybe he'll
show up at a Georgia game.
Oh, okay.
Interesting.
Check the schedule.
Okay.
Who's Belichick going to cut the night before the Super Bowl this year?
One of the McCordys.
That's one of the nicest things.
That would actually be great because he's like, there will be McCordy stories, the twins
in the Super Bowl, and then he just cuts one of them, like guess what?
You've got to make it on your own.
How about this for maybe I'd say a two and a half out of 10 in terms of revenge games?
The Brandon Cooks revenge game.
Yep.
Can't really get myself up for that one.
That went on the list.
That's it.
Anyone who says Brandon Cooks revenge game, it's like, eh, really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Sure.
And you know what?
He was guaranteed a revenge game too because the Saints would have been a revenge game
for him also.
Well, no, he played the Saints last week.
Yes, but then it would have been a double revenge.
Oh wait, no.
Now I'm all mind fucked.
The revenge games, you're too stuff about the revenge game.
So because I looked up who the Patriots traded for Cooks or who they ended up getting with
that pick, it was a player from Georgia who toured ACL, it was wins, so none of that
going back and forth.
But we do have Todd Gurley returning to Georgia.
More important than that, PFT.
You ready for this one?
I can't wait for this storyline.
Sonya Michelle, the last time he played in the Georgia Dome, Alabama beat them, the
Tua game in the national championship.
Will he be back for revenge?
Yes.
Tune in.
A Super Bowl.
A Gal.
Do we have your attention?
Man versus construction equipment.
It's here.
Sonya Michelle, Georgia, I don't even know if he's from Georgia.
We played for Georgia.
Yeah.
Now I think I'm officially in on the Super Bowl.
There will be something written about the Chick-fil-A inside of the Georgia or inside
of the Mercedes-Benz Super Dome, that is going to be closed during the game.
But if they do any media there, it will be open, it's not Sunday.
Yes, until Sunday.
Yes.
It will definitely be open.
Let's see.
Oh, traffic is going to be really bad.
Traffic is terrible in Atlanta.
It's going to be bad, guys, so just get ready for it.
These are all going to be just the, like, anytime you get to Super Bowl week and you
have, I don't know why they don't just do it right after, I wish they would just make
it back to this so there's no bye week, because we just sit here waiting.
Honestly, I wish somebody would just come knock me unconscious and then wake me up when
it's the Super Bowl.
Because we're just waiting for all these stupid storylines everyone's going to write a million
articles about.
That's another invention.
Just play the game.
Just write down, like, a pill that induces coma or hibernation.
Yeah.
Prop bets.
Only for the offseason football.
Hey, guys, 100 prop bets.
Here you go.
Yes.
I've got another one here, a lot of 28 to 3 talk.
Oh, yeah.
So there will be Patriots, you say, hey, big guy, do you think any Patriots fans will
be walking around wearing 28 to 3 shirts in Atlanta?
This will be a big time.
Matt Ryan may be doing radio row because he is, it is his city and having to talk about
the painful memories of the Super Bowl over and over and over.
Hank, do you have any ones, any that we missed?
You feeling good?
Feeling great.
Okay.
Oh, oh, I think a lot of people are going to ask if Tom Brady is going to retire.
Yes.
Tom Brady retire.
Rob Gronkowski retire.
Bill Belichick retire.
The retirement.
Trice.
A triumvirate.
Trice.
Yes.
Three guys bowing out.
Never been done.
I would like to see them just not accept the trophy and walk out the stadium.
See ya.
Peace.
Into a sunset.
All right, let's do.
I can't talk to the rest of the episode.
Let's do hot seat, cool throne.
PFT, I have a question for you.
It is the Seeky question.
So guess what?
We have a new deal for the Seeky question.
If you put in the promo code, take 300, you get $300 off your shoot bowl tickets.
So all those storylines, those appeal to you.
Sean McFay's memory, you want to go see that in person?
That's a deal even Mike Tice would be proud of.
Yeah.
Take 300 for $300 off your super bowl ticket.
So the Seeky question, PFT.
Hit me.
What's your hot seat, cool throne?
My hot seat is Darren McFadden's elusiveness.
So he got arrested in a drive through, a water burger drive through because he's got great
taste.
So he's getting the chicken, obviously.
Yeah, he's probably getting the honey butter chicken biscuit.
So he was passed out behind the wheel of his car and police came up, knocked on his window
and he accidentally hit the gas because he was drunk, drove into the water burger and
they pulled him out when he tried to escape.
So not great for him.
Darren?
Didn't even get his meal.
That's probably the worst part.
That's tough.
Darren McFadden is a Hall of Famer in the, I'll try to draft him in my fantasy team and
maybe this will be the year and then he has a hamstring injury three weeks into the season.
This is the year that his ankles healed.
Yes.
I've made that mistake several times.
Many times.
Many times.
I do love the ad campaign though.
Yes.
If this were a viral ad, that actually appeals to me.
If I see a celebrity get arrested in a drive through for being drunk at four o'clock in
the morning ordering a food menu item, I immediately want that food item.
Yes, absolutely.
Like Woody Harrelson arrested in Waffle House in Pensacola Beach, Florida at 3.30 a.m. for
being unruly.
Did you say Waffle House?
First thing I'm doing.
I'm going, I'm getting some hash browns smothered covered.
My other hot seat, excuse me, is the haters, all the haters out there.
Of which there are many, including Hank, mostly just Hank, thinking that this suit bet would
hurt my drip because I love jumpsuits so much.
Hank, you're on the hot seat because I'm swagged out and shout out to the tie bar.
They hit me up with a bunch of cool ties.
No for you ads.
So it's really been a blessing.
It's been a blessing.
I've been truly blessed.
This is a very relatable hot seat here.
I'm not mad at all.
My cool throne.
You're so not mad you put it on your hot seat.
Yep, my cool throne is heads because the captain of the Patriots, Slater, that's his
name?
AC Slater?
Not the Slater.
AC Slater says that God is the head of his life, so he always calls heads on the coin
toss.
Hmm.
Okay.
Fact check, true.
True.
God.
True.
If you tweeted it, you really fucked us up when he said tails always fails.
That also rhymes.
Damn it.
Tails.
Everything I've known is a lie.
Tails is always nails.
That rhymes too.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Head before bed.
That has nothing to do with the coin flip, but I like it.
I'm just saying things that rhyme.
Yep.
I guess heads is on.
It sucks because I really want, they're going to call the, they're going to call heads
and it's going to ruin my coin flip.
Yeah.
I'm still going to bet on tails.
Always.
Always.
Because the odds are so good.
Yes.
It's like plus 8,000 on tails.
Yeah.
It's minus 110 for a 50-50 proposition.
Nothing better.
If he just like, the odds of him accidentally doing a slip of the tongue and by mistake
saying tails.
Yep.
Absolutely.
All right.
Is that it?
Yes.
That is it.
Hank, go.
My hot seat, Big Cat, is you.
Why?
And your respect for Jumpsuit January.
Oh.
Okay.
So, Tuesday night of Big Cat sitting courtside at the 76ers game.
Monday night.
Monday night.
Tuesday night.
Thanks for remembering.
He was sitting next to Michael Rubin, Meek Mill, Lil Uzi Vert.
My friends.
Your good friends.
But I noticed that you were wearing jeans.
Was not wearing a jumpsuit.
That's sell out.
Yeah.
Sell out.
Well, I didn't lose a bet.
So, it's Jumpsuit January is a choice.
Yeah.
It is.
Actually, Jumpsuit January is a lifestyle.
Well, here's the thing.
I was invited to the 76ers game by Michael Rubin, who owns a team, not a big deal.
I think it's a hard sell when you get invited somewhere and you're like, dude, it's Jumpsuit
January.
You don't get it.
So, I thought maybe I'll be a good guest and not act like an asshole the first second
I met him.
But putting on a jumpsuit is basically formal wear.
So, you're saying you're an asshole if you wear a jumpsuit.
No.
I'm saying going to, being a guest at a 76ers game and showing up in a jumpsuit is kind
of a weird move and have like, you know, the guy invited me.
I'm not going to be like, hey, I'm going to try to wear something totally outlandish
here.
I feel like if you're hanging out with a billionaire, sweatpants are an acceptable move.
And you know, Lil Uzi Vert and Meek Mill are both rappers and they're rapping and jumpsuit
is like.
They were wearing jeans and they looked really nice.
True.
But Hank Sink's right.
Jumpsuit.
No, I'm fine with it.
Yeah.
LL Cool J wear jumpsuits all the time.
He's popular.
You, I'm like, I don't even know why you're putting me on the hot seat.
Why don't you instead say, hey, big cat.
How cool was it to hang with Lil Uzi and Meek?
I, well that was my next question.
Oh, okay.
Go ahead.
Ask it.
I was going to ask if, you know, you could have just said like, hey, that was cool.
You didn't have to put me on the hot seat, dude.
Would you, if you, you know, if there was pictures out of me, I would have been like
jeans.
You would have said the same thing.
Oh yeah.
But I have, I have no problems saying like I, I would, I don't regret my move of being
a guest of someone and trying to dress semi-appropriately.
I'm just saying, think about the people.
That's a move I would do again a hundred times.
Worship and respect.
Yes.
I get it.
So January and you get invited somewhere as a guest have, you have, should have no problem
being like, you know what?
I won't wear sweatpants for three hours.
I would have a major problem with that and that's why I don't get invited to do these
things.
Yeah.
That's probably a big clue right there.
Right.
Did, did you and Uzi hit it off though?
We hit it off big time boys.
So I didn't know who Lil Uzi was.
I texted Hank right away.
It was like, Hey, who's this little boozy guy?
Yeah.
And turns out he loves me.
I think.
So I looked up, I looked up his Wikipedia behind his back and I was like, Hey, what about Satan
man?
And he was, he didn't hear that because I was just talking to the back of his head.
But at one point he did say he fucks with me.
So that's kind of cool.
Okay.
We're like best friends.
It was when a couple of 14 year olds came up and asked me for a picture and he's like,
What was that?
I was like, dude, we have the same audience.
14 year old white kids.
And he's like, I fucks with you man.
I like that.
That's a smooth line.
I'm, I'm down with Lil Uzi.
I'm telling you.
Big time down.
Yeah.
Huge.
And I thought it was Lil Uzi there like it was French for the word green.
By the way, I mean the guy probably he smokes weed, right?
I've never looked more out of place than sitting courtside in the Jumbotron comes, goes on
Michael Rubin Meek Mill and Lil Uzi and I'm just sitting there like, what do I do?
And I don't want to say I was the one who got him out of retirement.
But did you notice he was out of retirement today?
Yeah.
He's back in the studio.
And I think it's because I told him, Hey, everyone wants you to come out of retirement.
And I was talking to the back of his head because he was having a conversation with
Meek Mill and not listening to me at all.
But I did say, what was your intro to him?
Where you like, Hey, I'm a blogger.
I was introduced yourself as big cat.
Yes.
Because I mean, it's Lil Uzi and Meek Mill.
So I figured nicknames fly.
I'm Daniel.
Yeah.
Hey, what's going on?
I'm Danny.
I'm Daniel.
I'm Michael's friend.
Yeah.
Hey, what's going on?
We shoot the, we shoot the breeze sometimes.
So yeah, I guess I'm in on that crew.
If you guys have any questions, I know Bubba's.
He hasn't even looked at me today.
Oh, so you're friends with a felon?
Real cool big cat.
Um, you know, there are 14 year old kids out there that look up reform where we're working
on prison reform.
So we'll fix that anytime though.
My cool throws.
That was a very, by the way, I just got, well, that was a very slick, implanted question.
Putting you on the hot seat and then evolving into the story.
He told me he was going to do that.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I sensed a coordinated, coordinated moment.
Damn.
If you sniff that one out, I gotta get a pretty early in the day to pull the wool over my
eyes.
Uh, and then my cool thrown is fake game show moments.
Oh, so I don't know if you guys been keeping track of this, but last week there was two
times that there was a wheel of fortune person at the last round.
She came very close, but she guessed wrong and she lost a million dollars and like the
clip went viral.
They ran it back like four days later.
And then today prices right had to get on the action.
They put out a clip where the girl got called down like, come on down.
Yep.
She was nowhere to be found.
She was quote unquote in the bathroom.
Diarrhea.
Diarrhea.
Yeah.
And then she came running out as a whole, whole big viral clip.
Did she have like toilet paper stuck to her shoe?
No.
That would have been next level if they did that.
Yeah.
That would have been all.
So keep, keep your eyes out.
I'm sure some other game shows like dealer, no dealer.
Some of these other game shows are going to have to do something to, you know, keep
up with this.
Okay.
Uh, my hot seats is drew lock.
We got hand measurements for the draft class, initial hand measurements, uh, Gardner Minshew
comes in at number one, 10 inches, 10 and a quarter inches drew lock, nine inches, little
baby hands.
Yeah.
This is bigger than nine inches.
That this, this is bigger.
These are, these are for the gold nine and five eight watches on gold.
These look at that.
Hey, you know that if your hand smells like strawberries, you have cancer.
Oh yeah.
Go ahead.
Do it.
Um, by the way, I'm going to disagree with you on that.
Yeah.
Uh, drew lock also had the most masculine moment of all time during his press conference
today where they were at reporters are asking them questions.
They started asking them how important it is to get his lower body into his throws.
And in the middle of the question, he gave them the double finger guns and the wink.
Oh, yeah.
To the reporter.
Okay.
So this guy's fingers work.
This dude is an alpha.
They might not be big, but they're animated.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
I'm back on drew lock side.
So now Tracemus McSorley is on the hot seat nine, uh, in a quarter inch.
Oh, P.
Oh, no.
In an eighth.
Oh, gross.
Uh, my other hot seat is Mike Francesa because he thought Todd Gurley actually switched
jerseys with the rep all time moment.
All time moment.
It was a really good photo.
There should be an age restriction on the internet at like, you know, and I'll get there.
We'll all get there.
But once you get past 60, it's like, maybe just don't go on.
Don't know what's going on.
Don't go on.
I just watched the games.
Uh, my cool throne is how come Michael Scott's always yelling at me after I tweet.
I've got 50.
He shows up in my mentions 50 times.
Who's this Peyton Manning?
Why Peyton Manning is yelling at me again.
Yeah.
What the hell?
Um, all right.
My cool throne is my recruiting abilities because boys, it took five years, but I have
gotten Carmelo Anthony to the Chicago Bulls.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
We're going to wave him, but, and he's never going to play for the Bulls, but I did recruit
him in the summer of 14.
I thought it would be a great idea to have Carmelo Anthony on the Bulls.
I promised, uh, to, I actually went on like a reverse hunger strike where I only ate hot
dogs for a month and said that I would keep eating hot dogs until he became a bull.
That didn't work out.
Well, it did work out.
Actually, long term.
I also said I was going to sell my X box, didn't have to sell it and he still came on
the bull.
So last laugh me.
Right.
So wait, you started eating hot dogs and then after the fact, you were like, I'm eating
these hot dogs for a cause.
Right.
Carmelo.
Hot dogs a day.
That's really unhealthy.
Yeah.
No, it's very.
I convinced myself it was healthy because it was no carbs, but then I've learned about
this thing called night traits.
Not good for you.
Night train.
Night train.
Oh yeah.
Night train is delicious, but yeah, it's bad for your body.
If you, here's the thing about hot dogs though, if you, if you treat your body like
shit for about three weeks at a time when you're younger, it's like same thing as giving
it a vaccine.
True.
So now you're like vaccinated and against really bad food.
Yeah.
So the hot dog, pig's asshole.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
They can't hurt you anymore.
I'm great.
I'm, I'm good to go.
All right.
Let's, let's go to our interview with Ryan Rosillo.
We talk fire fast.
We talk the documentaries.
We talks to the most ridiculous scam artist that this world has ever seen.
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Okay and with that a perfect segue to Ryan Rosillo.
Okay we now welcome on our good friend Ryan Rosillo.
He is a struggling screenwriter, playwright, what are you now in Manhattan Beach?
He lives in La La Land.
He doesn't live in a real world.
He lives in a place where it's always sunny and people are like oh dude you're so cool
and ripped.
What's up Ryan?
That's when you were here you saw it first hand.
I did.
I did.
We went shopping together.
It's the weirdest thing ever.
Very cool.
Very cool guys.
And then Ryan bought me a hat which was very cool.
He did the move where he was going to get a Christmas gift for his brother and he's like
I'm gonna get him some hats and he's like which hats do you like and I was like I like
that one and then he bought it and then as I was leaving he was like hey I bought this
for you.
That's nice.
There's no more alpha move in the world than buying another man a hat and then putting
it on his little head and then be like here you go Sparrow go on.
There you go partner.
Go on yourself.
All right.
Rosillo you're here.
No that was big.
I'm gonna get in real quick because Big Cat's favorite thing ever is if we're ever seen
together if somebody recognizes him it doesn't recognize me.
Everything makes him more aroused in the world and so that the guy at the pier was
asking where my podcast was and then I get to say like oh you should check out Dan.
He's like who?
Yeah.
It was a nice little reverse.
That's nice.
He did the fake like oh I know Big Cat and I'm like nah dude it's okay you don't have
to worry.
We didn't know.
That's nice.
I did that with Beetle one time and made her take a picture of me and somebody.
Yeah.
That was fun.
Yo I did that in Denver and Rosillo wanted to fist fight me.
Literally.
The Denver you are not a good source of any information for that Denver baseball game.
All right.
Let's talk Firefest.
That's why we have you on.
We all watch both documentaries the Hulu and the Netflix and I think we all are is intrigued
and amused by this entire story.
So we're gonna do two things.
We're gonna talk about it generally and then we're gonna do a snake draft power rankings
slash Mount Rushmore of our favorite moments.
So let's start here first.
I'll kick it to you Rosillo.
Tell me which documentary you liked more and the differences you saw in them.
Well Hulu won't have the advantage because the whole mastermind of the Fire Festival
building in Farland and apparently you get paid but if that gets you the guide then who
cares right.
And so both documentaries kind of went back for the follow of it.
I find the Netflix one though more entertaining.
I think it's because it may have been the footage or the editing which really tells
you something because they don't have the guy.
So I think they're both terrific but there's nothing at this whole Fire Festival phenomenon
pokes fun and millennials which I do want to get to in a little bit but there's nothing
more millennial than talking about the documentaries and everybody on social media demanding all
of us say which one's better.
Yes.
Like you can't like you seriously telling me this week that the other 90 minutes like
you can't spare the other 90 minutes.
Like you know you're going to watch other stuff or waste time and everybody will tell
me which one which one's better.
Why is it better.
Just watch both or don't watch either.
I don't care.
Yeah.
But figure it out.
That's so millennial where it's like you tweet something out and it's like you got a
link got a link though.
Yeah which one's better.
Which one should I watch.
I need to know.
It's a trick on ourselves.
I need to know which one is the problematic one.
Oh they're both problematic.
But I need to know which one is the problematic one so I can steer people away.
So let me let me back up because I did a bad job hosting there.
I assume everyone knew what Firefest is probably.
I hope there's not many people listening to this right now that don't know it because
it's probably the funniest story ever.
Billy McFarland scammer fraudster started a company in New York a black card company
for millennials then it came linked up with Ja Rule and created an app called the fire
app which was supposed to be a way for people say hey you want to get Ryan Russell on your
podcast you got to pay him $20,000 and then you can link up to him.
So an appearance fee for celebrities then on top of that they created a music festival
that was originally supposed to be in Pablo Escobar's island.
They told everyone they bought an island.
They were going to have a four day music festival.
They did a promo with all these Instagram models Emily Rajikowski people jet skiing
drinking beer doing everything.
You're basically going to go down to the Bahamas suck and fuck for four days and it's going
to be the greatest thing of your life.
Well.
And the whole thing was a scam basically they tried to put the whole thing together in like
a couple months when it takes years to put together a music festival and everyone showed
up and there were a bunch of FEMA tents and I hate saying hilarity ensued but hilarity
ensued and that's where we're at with the documentaries now to PFT's question.
The Netflix documentary was partly done by these guys at Jerry fuck Jerry the Jerry media
corp or whatever the fuck they're called and they were somewhat complicit in the fact
that they helped promote this event and the Hulu documentary paid Billy McFarlane this
guy who has basically scammed people out of millions of dollars and is in jail right now
serving six years in jail.
They had him as interviewing him.
So to me it was like Hulu was the mind of Billy McFarlane Netflix was actually the festival
and a lot of like the funny behind the scenes stuff because the fuck Jerry guys are involved.
Essentially it was the funniest fraud of all time.
Yes.
And the reason why people are a little bit more sympathetic towards the people that I
guess the marketing firms and all the people behind the scenes at the festivals because
one they were kind of getting scammed over by Billy and two the people that they were
ending up fucking over on the other end by and large were hilarious social media influencers.
Horses.
I don't mean horses by like oh like you know I'm not saying problematic horses women I'm
talking about.
No that'd be great actually.
I don't want who desperately seek clout.
Yes.
I would be way more pissed off if they were screwing over a bunch of prostitutes right
but they were just screwing over like Kindle Jenner and some but no the ones.
So the one.
Get screwed over.
Yeah.
250 grand for a post and didn't even have to go.
She didn't get her villa.
No.
She didn't get her villa.
She did get screwed over.
OK.
So the other part of it and I want to kick it back to you are so the other part of it
there are the people who really so PFT is right like millennials got screwed over which
was funny everyone can laugh at privileged millennials getting screwed over.
The only the part that Netflix I thought was a little bit better than Hulu was they actually
touched on the fact that like the Bahamian people got really screwed over.
People who worked hard to try to build this fucking shit show of a music festival and
then Billy McFarland just bounced.
So that part sucked a lot and I think there's actually did you see there was a go fund me
and I'm pretty sure.
Yeah for the girl the woman with the restaurant that was like feeding all the laborers and
then they ended up being like you just make food for all these people.
Right.
And so her go fund me is like 130 grand and I do think the Jerry media people I don't
know if they were doing it because they felt bad or if it looked good but they kicked in.
They kicked in 30 K. And I the only thing I could think of when I saw that go fund me
was someone behind this is probably it's probably Billy McFarland.
Yes.
He's probably stealing more money from people.
I thought so too.
The only reason why I was I was convinced that it wasn't is because it was so sloppily
put together.
Right.
If there's one thing that Billy McFarland is good at he's putting on an air like a veneer
of class and success.
He is like Tom Havardford.
Yeah.
From Entertainment 720.
It's just like OK we if you look successful in life that's actually 80 percent of what
success is because if people assume that you've already got it made that you've got
money they'll just give you more money.
Right.
Correct.
Let's take it back to you before we do the snake draft.
Two questions for you.
One are you a little bit upset that you didn't attend Fire Fest.
And two if you met Billy McFarland do you think you would be able to sniff him out quickly
or is that a guy that you would get duped by.
No I'm good at it sniffing it out because I kind of don't believe anybody anymore.
So I mean it's the thing about meeting me that sucks is you like started a massive disadvantage
from day one.
So one when he if I were twenty five I probably would have been like this guy's amazing like
look at his hats and his cool jeans and he has you know he has a Maserati.
So how how bad could he be doing but I'm not just being like look I know everybody likes
making fun of it before I answer your questions like before I think everybody likes making
fun of millennials on this one but I still think or at least I hope and this is something
that I always try to figure out like our more people walking around every day trying
to screw everybody over or and I think this is really where I like I still would like
to believe that most people don't wake up trying to find a way to deceive everybody
as they interact with the society you know and these stories get publicized and then
I've been reading about Carnar over here and these books that have been coming out that
are incredible.
This guy's so low.
This is a hedge fund kid.
There are no staying bad blood and there's all this stuff coming out now about this
and I read these stories and I go wait a minute is this actually what's happening?
Like is everyone just looking to screw everybody else because the millennial that signs up and
watch that video is sick.
The promo video is incredible.
Those guys were awesome to put that thing together and there's supermodels and jaw
rules there and yeah sure he's not exactly peak anymore but he's got a couple coronas
going like this looks like it's going to be a good time.
So the person that bought the package like I don't really blame I know everybody like
laughing at this train of millennial but I don't really blame the person for just having
the faith that hey if they're putting on this massive festival and these are the headliners
and these are the ticket things like this is an awesome sort of scam and it ended up
being that.
And it's the same thing with some of these companies like Big Cat if I told you hey
Van Pelt and I we flipped the house together and we've done two and you know here's how
much we made you should kick in some money in the third one then you probably would
and I would probably do the same like I've invested a couple different things because
of the person and if I lost money you know I could kind of understand it after the fact
but I'd be like alright yeah but like at the time this was the decision that made sense
to me.
The same way like again that book Bad Blood that I mentioned Sarenosis is a company that
had almost like a science fiction type medical device that they wanted to create and the
CEO she dropped out of Stanford she read the Steve Jobs book she figured okay I'm going
to drink kale smoothies and we're a turtle next I'm going to be difficult just like Steve
Jobs and then boom I'm going to be famous and she actually became famous and she was
valued of billions of dollars and all these different things.
Henry Kissinger was on the seat of that company Robert Kraft kicked in money for that where
Rupert Murdoch lost 150 million investing in it so even though we can make fun of the
millennial for buying tickets online to some stupid festival that didn't work out our human
nature is that we don't want to be left out right whether it's an Instagram model or a
billionaire who's 70 years old those guys hear about some company and then they want
to invest strictly by word of mouth so I guess the whole point in this rant that I'm trying
to make is that none of this is really all that surprising because we keep doing it over
and over again but the fact that it was this kid that had absolutely zero background whatsoever
and everybody fell for it isn't all that different from people investing in these companies that
don't work out. I agree with you I think the different you know people have been fucking
each other over for since the dawn of time correct I assume that there was a text about
Andrew Johnson the other night that's right yeah snake fucked over Eve so what's up with
that you're just going to air out our text thread whoa now people know that we're texting
United States history pretty fucked up by the way you I'm a very bad example for this
because you're talking to the guy who invested in a soccer team for a joke so yes I'm tell
me more about this third house that you and MVP have but what I'm saying is that people have
been fucking each other over since the dawn of time caveman probably had little caveman
time shares like oh I got a cave on the side of this awesome waterfall totally yeah and you
can come stay in it every two months for a year and then you'll get eaten on your way over there
if you try to go but the thing is the only difference between this and every other instance
of fraud that's been committed especially I feel like in the United States in the last you know
a couple hundred years is this was extremely well documented by cameras by social media every
single person that went on vacation to this island for this concert probably I would imagine that
the average number of Instagram followers they had was in you know the thirty forty thousand
follower range on average therefore every single thing that goes wrong is like it's so visible
that it becomes a monstrous thing but I'm sure stuff like this has happened you hear all the
time about the people that couldn't get into Woodstock right Woodstock was actually a disaster
of a concert the only difference is the music was awesome I'll go one further I think you could
just basically take all the marketing material from firefest and in two or three years rebrand it
and put it back out there and people would buy again I would I want to go right now I know I want
any question yeah there's no doubt it would work because now it's a thing whatever it is
like and that's what the back the original thing that I'd never answered the cat I apologize but
like I I think there's almost a badge of honor now if you went to this disaster yes yeah yes
absolutely you're a veteran yeah I would have loved to have gone to fire you got the thousand
tenths stare yeah guess what I still think like if you it's one of those things like you
you people people are the instagram thanks just thought of it right now the instagram
like culture that people make fun of I don't know it's like every if you go on instagram
you're just flipping through the stories and stuff everyone is is basically curating it to
make it look like their life is perfect and guess what you always buy in on it because
you're watching you're like man everyone's having fun everyone's on vacation at the same time like
if two of your friends are on vacation right now and you go on instagram you'll start thinking like
damn why don't I take a vacation yeah just like if three of your friends post the fucking
orange tile which we should have gotten revel on to check the pantone on that
but if they post an orange tile on instagram like you'll be like oh shit I gotta be involved in this
because I want to do fun shit with my friends and there are definitely people that are going to go
to to firefest too no matter when it is yeah there are people that are signed up they're making a
fucking second version of the titanic yeah the greatest maritime disaster in world history
and people are buying tickets for it like thousands of people died I think they're
going to be able to flip a couple tickets for firefest too we're so back to your original
point though I think the only thing that's unique about a guy like Billy McFarland and you see it
in the hulu documentary the he his brain is just not wired correctly because when they get to that
point when they say you know uh have you have you told any lies today and he was like no I
haven't told a single lie and they went through the list of lies he told like 20 minutes before
so lie at it yeah right the lie it might have been the most impactful thing of either the two
documentaries right such a like f u to billy at the very end so the culture is not like so toxic
that it's like oh man I agree with you the the the general point of hey the people get scanned
all the time and everyone wants to be part of something no one wants to miss out it's just
that it takes an extraordinary dickhead with a brain that is actually broken because he actually
cannot he's lying to your face and you could be like billy could be like the sky is black
and he'd be like no dude it's blue he'd be like no it's black and he he wouldn't understand that
he's doing something wrong right but see that's that's back to like the jobs thing because the
jobs book was great because everybody that read it was like okay so just be just be a raging
dick to everybody like that that's how it works and I think there's a generation of people that
have read that book that think like that's the way to be successful from a company yeah and this
this fire festival thing is a disaster days out it's not going to happen you don't have water
you don't have bathrooms they've got lockers that look like they're taken from a junior high that
was condemned and like that's where you're supposed to steal your valuables they don't have food
services because he fired them um they don't have to they have nothing the acts haven't been paid
and this kid's like hey you know what we need to really tag together as a pirate ship
let's get a pirate ship and they're like bro this thing isn't going to work like the whole thing is
a divest you know like call it off and obviously he couldn't because they pay the influencers all
this money yeah it's like well we've already paid them we can't cancel it because then I've just paid
them for nothing all right so let's just keep charging people for tickets and there's like oh
we're short on cash all right put a villa a $50,000 villa experience up on on the page and see if
someone buys it and they're like dude we don't have the villa and he's like that whole line that he
tells the yoga guy that we're not a problem we're not a problem institution we're a we're a solution
yeah that's a John Taffer line yeah great but it it doesn't it's not true right all you do is create
problems like imagine being I'm in a bad mood if I think I have a bad like if I go I don't really
have a great podcast outline today like today's show is not going to be as good as I want that puts
me in a bad mood all morning until I do it and I'm like hey it wasn't as bad as I thought this guy
had thousands of people flying to Great Exuma with no prep whatsoever and like I think that's what's
fascinating about his mind is that there was zero conscious like right there was no guilt whatsoever
and then they stay up the entire night before at party their ass is gone yeah the thing is supposed
to start and they're actually going well you know people will get here a little later probably
you know like dude tomorrow's the day yeah and you don't care that's crazy the anxiety the lack of
anxiety was shocking like if you have to do something if you have something hanging over your head
you think about it non-stop and the fact that they were like yeah we have this entire festival and
nothing is going to work but it's okay let's just do some coke and drink some coronas and it will all
work itself out and then blaming the rain too being like well it rained who knew that it rained
sometimes in the spring in the Caribbean yeah nobody could see that coming that's a great point
because both docs do this whole rain storyline because they got a doubt for the night before
like oh yeah okay right right because now the festival is not going to work
not any of the other stuff that we mentioned fire the food people and that you know what's great too
is that this is kind of Billy at his core still doesn't want to party yeah the booze all showed up
right right I respect that nine million dollars a booze say what you want about the rest of the
festival it was actually a remarkable feat of logistics that Billy McFarland was able to get
10 million dollars worth of booze onto a private island that you know that in and of itself like
good job Billy right and it's like we don't have any toilets we don't have any water most of mattresses
are damp and by the way screw that one kid I think it was the Asian kid that was like yeah we started
tearing oh wait wait wait wait that's that's part of my draft that's part of my draft but you
raise our time moment it was like hey sorry about every possible thing that we said that would work
not working out but there's a handle of Captain Morgan right there with your name on it yeah it's
good to go it's good to go let's do the draft so we're going to draft moments people characters
whatever just kind of riff off of it because it is so there's so many different things so
Ryan why don't you start then PFT you go we'll go and then I'll go but and then we'll come back around
so you start with your number one moment person whatever it may be okay I'm going to go with
just the seven foot center in the 80s thing I don't I don't want to be too cute here with my first
pick when Billy told everybody that they bought Pablo Escobar at private island and part of his
pitch was that he was like you can come here and for three days like to the average you can feel
like Pablo Escobar which I don't understand like I heard there'd be killing in the pamphlet
and then the first thing that people said Pablo Escobar's lawyer and the estate manager was like
do not say this is Pablo Escobar the island was like do not say anything about Pablo Escobar and in
the first video they launched the first screen says Pablo Escobar's island and they get kicked off
it's so good yeah the fact that the fact that the island followed through on it too and immediately
booted him off yes it was awesome but you know what that island did have Ryan is those fucking pigs
that everyone loves no that was a different island wasn't it those whatever those pigs are
there's a few islands down there I actually the whole they're biting you thing I as a friend of
a friend that ended up in the hospital because of the pig fighting at his uh his job known thing down
there like everybody loves to swim at the pigs you get they it's a whole big thing annual keys
another one I think so those that's known down there but they are vicious vicious guys yeah
okay pft okay I don't know which way to go it's a great start that is good I don't know which way
to go with this I got two really solid options I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with uh Grant's email
about the song that he wanted yes so Grant was a little Dwight Schrute accomplice to uh to Billy
and he was in charge of like a lot of behind the scenes stuff including designing the soundtrack
for their promotional video and uh he wrote a thousand word email for a prospective composer
I think he's putting out there like on spec so that somebody could like write a sample yes
but it needed to be I think four or five minutes long it was over a thousand words and the fact
that they never mentioned the word cocaine yeah when discussing Grant's email is ludicrous it is
the most coked up email that I've ever seen in my entire life and it just convinced me that
rich people should not be allowed to do cocaine but well it's actually incredible
credit if you want to give credit to this whole firefest crew for anything it's that they did
a remarkable job of hiding their cocaine while on camera yes because I like how was that not in
the documentary it was incredible and then this is exactly like rich people when they get coked up
guess what they have the money to accomplish all their coked up fantasies right that's a problem
right they're super I would go one step further and say like if you have over 10 million dollars
you should be dosed with thc oil yeah just chill out all the time don't do anything but so I've got
a little selection from uh from Grant's email here that I want to read to you guys I'm gonna try to
read it tim tebow Christopher Nolan asking for the score for the next batman yes yes for a fucking
two minute instagram video with regard to the brand to the brand piece we're all in agreement
that an original composition is the way to go here would love to lock down a composer as soon
as possible I know you mentioned having a few shortlist composers would love to hear their work
ideally these individuals will have a strong theoretical background with a diverse knowledge
of classical popular and world music detraction work at most points synergistically with the
visual composition however key moments having the music and visual composition run in parallel
to create moments of tension to be sonically resolved of course would strengthen the overall
work as a whole although some of the inspirations below are quite globalist we need to develop a
track with mass appeal when global music elements are leveraged properly the bits of unfamiliarity
perhaps enhanced listener attention cohesiveness of the overall work is so important and then he
gets into the things that he wants in the song why don't you just fucking compose the piece yourself
use of odd use of odd meters i.e. compounded time signatures are something like five four for more
exploratory elements with global more yeah he wants five four time he wants it to be like
Dave Brubrick right yeah with global music elements that can help to inform the more
exploratory bits of the work where use of even meters i.e. four four straight ahead can inform
the more emotional segments use of strings and odd meters quite effective and then he gets to the
drums and he says that the instrumental inspirations that he wants include the xylophone the sudo that's
a brazilian drum the tico drums especially during the more exploratory elements the tabla which can
be filtered so in case you were thinking not to filter the tabla he's going to go ahead and give
you that bit of artistic freedom uh to filter it if you want and then his masterpiece the fretless
bass as opposed to a p precision or jazz bass which would add more of a glue specifically
with the more global elements this guy is getting down to the nuts and bolts of
white type of electric bass yes you're allowed to use and and the best part is it's a video with
emily radjikowski you think anyone's listening to the fucking music it's emily radjikowski bathing
with pigs snorkeling drinking coronas with ja rule you could put a lamb chop song that never ends
behind it and people wouldn't notice let's not overthink this let's just go to the masters at this
craft imagine dragons and say hey we will license any one of your songs and it'll be perfect that's
it oh man that's great all right so all right so i yeah i have uh two here so that's true yes he's
an emt yeah yeah he is an emt we were joking about that before the show that he basically was like
what's the quickest way i can become a doctor so people will stop calling me a fraudster yeah okay
i'm an emt i save lives now yeah i know how to work in the fibrillator all right i got two i actually
shocked or so because when you said you were going with the seven foot center in the eighties i thought
you were going to go with the dick sucking story yeah because that is the most remarkable now so
there's a guy named andy king in the netflix series that worked with billy who was like oddly
still entranced by billy and like was like he's an unbelievable and he'll kind of yeah kind of a guy
right right that billy's girlfriend and this guy andy king like both just very much into the
billy is still a god thing after all this evidence but anyway there's a whole story about how they
needed to get the water on the island but the customs there was a customs tax of 175 thousand
dollars and billy called up andy king and was like hey man you're gay like actually gay can you go suck
this guy's dick to get the water free from customs tax i believe the phrase he used was hey andy i need
you to take one for the team and i've never asked you to do this so he so the guy then this is the
crazy part because like that's a crazy story in its own right and he then willingly tells this story
on a netflix documentary that he was down to go suck a guy's dick for to get some water cleared
from customs which like is that guy what's andy king's plan is he just never going to work again
because he basically is saying i will i will do anything i will i will give you sex acts for for
goods and oh yeah someone hire me to be a promotional guy for your next concert yeah it's
the new cryptocurrency is just giving head it was wild i know you love that moment uh ryan
well it's just you know that was a good pick it was a good pick did you in 2012 if svp says hey ryan
i got a problem are you go are you are you are you are you taking a shower and going down to the
customs guy no i'll go back tonight my next one this is a personal favorite um the villas so the
villas that they sold for like five hundred thousand dollars each and billy said uh that they had the
villas but they lost the box of keys for the villas so two million dollars worth of property they just
lost the box of physical keys and telling that lie is just so so billy being like no no no we had
the villas we just lost all the keys to him because it was just one box and it was you know a lot of
moving parts you can't get in if you lost the keys yeah yeah the people definitely didn't believe
that they're like you've lost the keys and then he's like yeah yeah like if you had actually paid
because here's the thing even if they had had in their head possession of those villas and that
was part of the plan they hadn't paid those people no based on everything i've seen so he couldn't
even if he lost them like if you would pay them and lost and you go hey here's the deal we need
them we lost these you're gonna find a caretaker to get you into it figure that out right that's
thing was i just love the news on a table a picnic table still selling the dream like where
where's the stuff and he's like hey guys and then he would just tell the DJ like hey put on a
statify EDM mix again yeah wow yeah everyone check your everyone check your pockets does anyone
have any keys someone took him he turns them all against each other like it's lord of the flies
yeah right he's like one of you has the keys find that person yeah the the most cathartic moment of
that uh that experience for billy must have been when he was on that table and he had no answers
for anybody and he just decided to say fuck it go find your own tent yeah and then everybody just
ran away he probably felt great like a weight had been lifted off the solve solution uh my solutions
who are into the entrepreneur what do you have uh my uh we each have two i have two more picks and
you and pft have three more picks we're coming back around the snake right now okay all right all
right uh wait wait pft's i'm going pft's got got his go ahead go ahead yeah all right back okay uh
my next favorite part was um jaw rule after the fact after the entire thing was over and he's back
trying to figure out how to spin this and move forward and maybe get firefest two going or at
least how to clear his name and uh he said in the conference call it's not like we committed fraud or
anything and they they know somebody said we committed fraud and he jumps in it goes no we didn't
yeah no we didn't commit fraud it was false advertising yeah our wrongful or criminal
deception intended to result in financial or personal gain yeah but it wasn't fraud yeah it rained
don't use the f word on me and and dwight shrewd said no one got murdered which we should put on a
shirt just say no one got murdered for firefest 2017 the baseline for success tax only you just
you just came up with the idea you guys gonna make no one got murdered sure yeah yeah and we
absolutely should it's that's that's that's a good festival you can't say the same for altamont
that's true yeah at least at least billy didn't try to get hell's angels out to the island boom
pretty good fast they would have if they had tagged the hell's angels tagged it they would have
invited yeah you have to tag it all right you got two i got two all right um
that means i'm gonna have three molda yep we got my depth chart here uh i'm serious i'm gonna go in
a real sleeper way too high i don't care we'll keep it moving topic wise i like when they showed all
the influencers pictures that shane ray was one yes yes that's right yes hell of a career at mizu
unreal yeah edge guy broncos he just was all of these supermodels i think cp was one of them too
i mean i just saw a picture of shane ray in a mizu jersey and i went all right that's cool yeah
those have shane ray that should have been red flag number one when they hired a guy with character
concerns who smoked weed in college uh to be one of your influencers on that campaign all right next
oh so i have back to back yes snake draft okay okay uh billy's in the hulu documentary billy's uh
pitch for his wolf type company as you've already referenced a couple different time i think it was
called flingo or something i don't remember and they showed his presentation at like the pitch
now and it sucked i don't know if it was edited but like he'd go to open up a page and the page
wouldn't open fully and he was like if you guys see an article you really like then just linked
to flingo i forget what the name is it would be so much fun if i can remember the name and some girl
comes on she's like yeah i was there he basically pitched google and then dropped out of college was
like this was a success i'm out steve job yeah yeah all right that's a yeah that's a great he was
like clicking on on x's and stuff and nothing was popping up he was open the tab draw screwed up
and that may have been a technical glitch they made it edited that to make it look worse but they did
a really good job of making his pitch look terrible yes yes yes all right my third one is going to be
his uh his most successful company that he had the fake uh american express black card that was
made out of aluminum magnesium and magnesium and magnesium was misspelled misspelled so it looked
like penises yes um and billy's entire product was just a slightly heavier credit card so that you
can feel good about not having as much money as you want it was so perfect that like no one figured
out back then that this guy was a fraud when he basically created it was like almost like a dog
with a shiny toy he's like yeah i threw it down on the table and it clinging in jaru was like in
and everybody looks at it it's like yo that's yo dog that's heavier than normal credit card that's sick
it was amazing it was amazing my favorite part of that was um the whole purpose of that card
besides looking cool um were the perks behind it and the only perk was that you get to hang out
with billy at his townhouse yes yes like it was it was a it was a membership that billy was selling
to people to come be his friend yeah come play beer pong at this townhouse with a bunch of dudes
yeah i like how the artsy like vice writer said you know if you wanted you know if you were a guy out
of college who was too old to join a fraternity you would have joined this yes like yeah i would
have yes yes i would have been 22 and 23 and been like these guys are loaded and i just have to buy
this fake credit card yeah i you know i always think it's funny how different groups just are
like oh you guys wanted to do this you're like well what if they were having fun right you wanted to
do that it's now granted the whole the whole clanging of the credit card like i have one of those
um not the magnus this one i wasn't approved at the time but uh you know i have one of those
and you just go that's it right now oh yeah yeah so i'll take three yeah no i agree with you though
it was basically a soho house but with flip cup and i'm in i'm in right i went to a party the other
night where the guy was like yeah we're trying to expand this out he's like we wanted to make it
the soho house but not and he goes and then permits and such and whatever and then i'm looking around
going why wouldn't i want to hang out at this thing it's incredible yeah yeah um all right i got my
last two so i'm gonna go with the tent destroyer guy we mentioned it earlier i love this guy so
basically what happens is they tell everyone to go find a tent and this guy's like yeah because we
didn't want anyone around us we started pissing on mattresses and and basically cutting up fema
tents around us so that we had our own little island and i love this guy because there's always
one of these guys who just takes everything to like the max level the minute that there are no
laws like everyone go find a tent and he's just starting to like slightly you know slit throats
and like run over like women and like just just start beating up people and and it becomes like
this you know like back in like the medieval times almost instantly it's like dude just chill out like
we're probably all gonna get on a flight in a minute anyway like you don't need to do this
it's very primal yeah yeah it became lord of the flies for that guy yes and that guy only and
everyone else was just like you know going to find a tent yeah probably just looking for a place to
lay down for another level here like i could understand knocking one of you two guys out for
a bottle of water at that point or you know just tackling someone or kicking somebody out of a tent
but i wouldn't take the extra water and throw it over a ravine so no one could have
like there was a housing shortage okay like hey asian guy you were gonna get your tent you were
gonna get a tent you already had your mattress just because you didn't like how how concentrated
the tents were you started sabotaging other potential housing and mattresses because you
want neighbors yeah that's basically what he did unbelievable that was another level yeah all right
my last one i'll keep it short this one kind of went with flew under the radar no pun intended
the pilot who casually said that he taught himself how to fly using microsoft flight simulator yeah
that was such an unbelievable moment just being like yeah and then they like yeah we didn't realize
till he got in the in the air and he was like yeah i learned it's not that hard you just hop on there
it's online you can learn all the keys that's how most people learn how to have sex up key left
key right key what's the big deal yeah but then he was dropping he's like you know every time he went
with billy so it's like hey this is a pilot he's my private pilot he taught himself on a video game
and we make him do three zero gravity yes because that that's also like a great i took one flight
lesson and the instructor did that to me and if you're not ready or know what it is it sucks
we also knew he was a pilot because he had pilot in his handle which you like i love how all the
people were like hey make sure my handle's in there too yeah and his was pilot pilot something
and then he got kicked out because he was trying to keep it real yeah he was keep when keeping it
real goes wrong the pilot the pilot who learned it from microsoft flight simulator actually uh
was one of the most level-headed guys there it is a whistleblower stunning turn of events all right
pft okay well that was gonna be my last one so i have to call an audible i'm gonna say um
um i'm gonna go with uh in the netflix documentary when our good friend and recurring guest of this
podcast trill ballin's tweet was featured yes it was one of the one of the tweets that they had of
like people freaking out like or making fun of the firefest it was trill ballins as the mask
saying like shakes fist at sky jar rule yeah so good so good it was just good to see trill get
get his uh get his do his credit on there get it get get his shine all right ryan what's your
last one god there's still so many there's so much depth in this draft uh i think when
after it all gone bad and people were like where's billy and then billy this is where he's he's
smarter and more complicit because he knew like it i kept wondering when is this gonna bother you
enough to leave and it bothered him so much he left all of his lieutenants there to deal with the
outrage masses and the locals that were ready to like start knocking stuff over and billy was gone
yes in order to be found yes and then after kind of being banned i don't really know how the legal
stuff came i think the bahamas you just get to if you're running one of those islands you just get
to decree whatever you want to decree and like that's it yeah which may be better and then he went
back to steal all the merch he thought he was just going to be able to steal millions of dollars
worth of merch because they clearly had sick fire henley's and whatever going and they left it all
there because it was all on the island they couldn't sell any of it so billy's like all right well we
screwed everybody over but let's go back to bahamas and steal our merch and they were going to bribe
one of the local bartenders who's in the hulu doc who apparently his sketching his meter is off the
charts yep and they paid him or there was a suggestion that he was paid to help steal the
stuff back and they asked him did you steal anything and then he had a huge smile on his face he's
like i ain't never robbed nobody and they were like what do you mean yes he's like hey no way you
you owe these people all of this money you are the biggest disaster that this island has run into
and we're not talking about hurricanes like you're the worst and you're just going to pop back
out of the island a week or two after this fire festival goes belly up and you think you're going
to steal all your hoodies and t-shirts back in dad hat leave no tri blend behind yes oh there was
another there was a scene where billy they were talking about how he got past problems that he
would have because you're right he wasn't a problems guy he was a solutions guy didn't want to hear
anything solutions organizations did not want to hear anything negative and so whenever he'd have a
problem he would walk out get on his atv and then floor it to the end of the road and then turn
around driving as fast as he could and go back and forth like three times then walk back and tell
you like i okay i've achieved my moment of zen clarity we're good to go we're good to go i cleared
my head i cleared my head he's and then the frank triple thing which is maybe if i know frank
triple was a real guy but that's like the if someone emails you for in their name is frank
triple you'd be like no that's that's the biggest scam artist ever like that's the most made up name
of all time in the hulu doc gets credit for the greatest line of all time when they were like
because billy's committing fraud while all like being out on probation they're like
if you've ever been out on on bail that's the time you want to commit the least amount of crimes
and frank triple is trying to get more money for exclusive uh the met gala you know tickets and all
that shit you see but that's that's a great point it kind of brings you back to like when you're
talking about grand and and his psychotic emails is that they kept some stuff out of the view of
the cameras and then when billy's out on bail and he's basically using his leads it's like all
these leads that he has anybody that signed up for any of the fire fest ticket stuff they're like
okay so now we have this database of potential clients they're into this kind of stuff so now
we can call them up and call call them and billy's writing the script and he's basically telling the
triple guy like this is how you do it and it's all on video yes like yes like that's insane to me
and then you're going to wait a bit does he ever have these tickets to any of these events and
everyone's like no he doesn't and that's like the the things that bothered him versus the things
that don't bother him like that pie chart has a very small sliver and then a much bigger like
that just in a way i almost admire his ability to be impacted so infrequently by anything happening
around yes yeah but he's got a snap at some point right like he asked it probably when he's in jail
because when they were talking about going to jail he asked his buddy who had been to prison before
what is it like and they're like well billy you're in yourself for 23 hours a day and then they let
you out for one and he was like oh never mind i'm not gonna go so yeah i don't have to worry about
so he came this close to actually reckoning with his own reality and saying okay i'm going to end
up in a cell and then when he found out what was gonna be like he did nope not not gonna happen
i'll shut up so at some point he's gonna figure it out and uh it's going to be wow that's going to
be uh quite the realization he comes to ryan last thoughts we're running long but this has been fun
last thoughts sum it all up i would probably hate billy if he had done this to me but years
removed i think it's gonna be a real conversation starter if you're a fire festival veteran yes
yes yes yes oh i want to meet one yes i badly you know how like in pft you'll be good on this
you know how like back in the olden days when there would be nautical disasters and then people
that were survivors of nautical disasters if you give preferential treatment throughout society
yeah i've seen that episode of Seinfeld yep haha very well very well back it's true it's true so
i don't know if we're still doing it but um i think we could extend that to some of these like i
there are things that i think are funny to say about millennials and not being one and i've
done some rants they're a little tongue-in-cheek about millennials but i don't know i don't i don't
really blame the kids for thinking they were signing up for an awesome time yeah i wasn't
i wasn't laughing at them the way the rest of the public was and all the late night comedians
that tell the same stupid jokes and it's such a layup and like oh i'm gonna make fun of all these
dumb kids like yeah i get that there's things that we don't like about different generations
of stuff but i don't know i did not i did not have this point in ha ha feeling towards the kids
that got off a bus that wanted to have a party that were in their 20s that's what you do i i think at
the time um those kids were done into service by the media that it mostly reported uh the more
expensive villas that were being sold so i know for myself at the time i thought that everybody
that was down there was under the impression that they were going to be living in a $50,000
dollar villa like you had to spare 50 grand laying around right to shell out for a weekend of you
know a concert on an island and those are people that would be easier to laugh at i think but i
agree with you it's it's a little unfair sometimes just pile on millennials for for just wanting to
have a good time and go to a concert with their friends uh where a bunch of famous people are
going to be so i don't i don't blame it all for that i'm with you no thanks but i don't know what
it is about the chubby guy growing up to become the con artist later on it's fair it's fair it's
fair good point it's fair got my head on a swivel yeah just something to think on yeah no the so my
last point was uh it's just so funny because billy and his crew went to firefest when they filmed
the promo that was firefest like they lived the life that they sold they had the the super models
the pigs the bonfire the stupid toasts where they're trying to fuck like porn stars that
that for some reason netflix and hulu people like were like they invented this hilarious toasts like
dude have you ever been around like a douchebag who's a little too drunk at a bar that toast has
been around forever yep forever but uh it's just so funny because it everyone bought it everyone
bought into it but it's like they didn't really i i agree with everything like they i would have if
i were at the right age right time little disposable income i would have watched that video and
been like fuck man this is sweet let's go let's go i do regret not going yeah i regret it you sold
me billy yep i think you should put it on yeah firefest too we don't know i can make this happen
can you get it done by superbowl if you start today yes no one can shit but we can do it yeah
i'll just be at the ivy yeah bucket just everyone in the world show up perfect um all right ryan this
has been fun thank you i appreciate it we'll see you super all week and uh good luck on the screen
writing whatever you're doing these days i don't even know good luck on the juice cleanse hey ryan
last question would you trade anthony davis uh for what okay bye i was just fucking with you
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okay let's get to some segments point of order I have one Super Bowl storyline I forgot to mention
but it's a very obvious one Jared Goff and Tom Brady are both from essentially the same place
both a couple of NorCal bros did any of them get recruited by a school in Georgia we'll have to
look into that yes just look for those connections I'm exclusively reported that yes they both had
offers to Valdosta state there we go so let's get to some segments reminder we're going on the road
we're leaving on Thursday for the Super Bowl we're going to be going to Philly maybe a stop in
Virginia and we're going to be in Nashville so Saturday come come hang out with us we'll be at
the Ainsworth in Nashville from two to five two to five watch some college basketball with us in
the afternoon we'll be there hanging out Roan will be there with us two to five at the Ainsworth in
Nashville on Saturday uh let's start with some Mike Greenberg's oh no you know what let's start
with bachelor talk okay for guys that don't watch bachelor we swear uh except for Hank nope I don't
watch it at all I just hear things uh the beef between two former pageant girls Caitlyn and Hannah
B heated up as they accused each other of being manipulative liars so this was you know they had
the one-on-one dates and they're spending the time and their one-on-one dates talking shit about the
other girl was that an added Hank detail no I just read that uh wow you looked right in our eyes so
that wait they were on their date they were talking with each other instead of talking with they
competed against each other in the pageant pageant game when they're grown up so there's like already
there was already a rivalry oh they knew each other from the past this is history yeah got it yeah
and it's pageant girls you know how competitive that gets yeah I do I sure do I don't I definitely
I saw the sander bullock movie I saw the John Benet Ramsey documentary uh Colton sent Caitlyn
was bad did they ever catch who killed her I don't know was it hurt I didn't actually I started it
and then I was like this is slender man slender man killed like this is very very sad Colton
sent Caitlyn home before the rose ceremony after she said she's pretty normal lives a pretty normal
life and likes to hang out with their friends that's what you say when you're not normal yeah by the
way I don't think I've ever anyone if you ask them like what are you like if they reply normal run
the opposite direction okay counterpoint she actually is very normal she's just incredibly boring
because if you ask someone what they like to do is hobbies and they say just hang out with my friends
I don't know I mean I'm I'm like that I'm boring yeah what do you like to do just chill
or hang out I love uh I like to travel yeah I like traveling I like ballet I like food food
I like a big foodie yeah I like I like huge foodie I read you know what I like to do is hang out
and eat I love you know what the biggest crock of shit is when people are like I love meeting new
people you get the new people are the worst gross and finally Colton replaced the pre-rose
ceremony cocktail party with a pool party so you could be shirtless again this guy's a virgin
actually soon do not be funny you bring that up big cat because I have a major stay woke oh
I have credible information oh Hank's shaking his head already that the bachelor is not really
a virgin okay so so what we've been saying all along he was using it he was using my idea of
lying about being a virgin to get chicks and executing it masterfully okay you all laughed
at me yes I've I have come across well we laughed to you because in any other I know in any other
scenario besides the bachelorette this does not work hey hey ladies just so you know I'm a virgin
impressed yeah wow dm's are gonna blow up after this one but I did get a tip that included a snap
chat from this guy or snap is that what you go with his snap in a vagina well it's no it's him and
it said f'd a big t-worded ho last night whoa pft let me just maybe they were the city fuck
that's not losing your virginity but he didn't say he f'd the t's he said he f'd the ho
that had the t's that owned there was the owner and operator of the t's that well yes
much more than just a set of t's right pft I could I could take a picture of you right now
and then doctor what the caption looks like on a snapchat so it can't say whatever you can't
because it's got that special shade of gray in the stripe it's very hard to duplicate yeah true
if you don't know what anyone's are you talking about deep fakes right now I'm saying that your
sources are very suspect and there's not a lot of credibility there there are suspects but at the
what was the guy going to do sue me for saying that he has sex yes he could allegedly that's slander
I'm slander if you are too busy focusing on d1 football no one that's right no point we forgot
about that I've damaged this 27 year old's reputation by insinuating that he's had sex yes
yes let's count the rings on your dick whip it out buddy that's it okay it's like you get a blister
like uh michael jordan and black panther we should watch you sleep with when is the black
bachelor it's monday night maybe we'll watch one at soup all no okay I was an idea yeah big
tonight six six hours long I threw an idea out there guys yeah no bad ideas more of a celebrity
big big brother guy with uh ricky williams the mooch ryan lockedy and uh kid okay okay okay yeah
all right let's do a uh mike greenberg's dumb rules we gotta fix overtime or so people say
because it's not fair because the patriot scored on the first drive even though the ram scored
after stopping the saints whatever I honestly do do you not agree pft that like the uproar about
overtime feels like it's a lot more the patriots than it like if the chiefs have won that game
in overtime we need a metric to establish what outrage is right where they outrage level is
because I don't think there's as much outrage as you think there is no I think that it was
leading there's outrage is the wrong word it's not outrage but I think it is a topic of
disgust once everyone moved on from the saints they they went right to the overtime what was on
all the talking head shows and all that stuff what would the metric be obermans yeah how many
obermans how many obermans three and a half out of five three and a half serves out of five yes uh
yeah I think so yes I think the the outrage um if there was any was that you didn't get to see
Patrick Mahomes play offense right but I I agree that the rule for overtime right now
is not as good as it could be I like college overtime better than I like NFL well the problem
with college overtime is you'd have to move them to the 50 because it's yes easy field goal we've
talked about this and the if you want to talk about fairness the coin flipping college overtime
matters a lot too so here problem solved do a coin flip to see who gets to call the coin flip I like
that boom water it down a little bit that's a good one um what about just a straight field
goal competition everyone loves field goals yes it's yeah it's like pks yeah right let's just let's
just go the other direction but you can't have your kicker kick them yeah I like that too here okay
yes it has to be either I mean offense alignment anyone over 300 pounds here is here's the idea
that I want to see happen college overtime 25 yard line everything's the same as college overtime
exact same rules only wrinkle each team has to play their backup quarterback
now we're getting now we're creating jobs okay and the backup quarterback is becoming becomes a
very important position so the minute you go to overtime your starter can no longer play quarterback
so we get like a second life of Charlie Whitehurst and uh Josh McCown is like the the coveted
backup yeah jim sorgi what do you got how orton comes out of retirement yeah this moment all your
life oh lord tell me you wouldn't want to see that I would love to see it they love tell you what
let's keep this train going and and they wouldn't be able to get yards because they're back up so you
can do it at the 25 there you go so what about this you've got you the the big thing when you're
talking about the match up between Patrick Mahomes and tom brady you get all these naysayers being
like well they're not on the field at the same time they're not really going head to head I like
we're going why don't we solve that problem yeah why don't we have offense why why don't you have
offense versus defense on one end at the 30 yard line and the other team's offense versus defense
on the other 30 yard line and you say go first offense to score on your opponent's defense wins
or simultaneous you get split screen yes offense is going or you have Patrick Mahomes stand on one
goal line tom brady stand on the other and someone gets the ball first let's say Patrick Mahomes
and he just has to score one on one okay full field how about this you just play the game of 500
where Patrick Mahomes throws it up and you've got three players from each team trying to catch the
ball on the like 80 yards away amendment to the rule each team has a pool in their end zone
because you can't play 500 not in pool that's true yeah so oh rock would dominate oh what if we play
dilly what is it called dimmy dimmy dimmy dimmy no we hank's game where you just
totally don't cheat and and go underwater with your eyes closed and try to find something on
the ground they start with your eyes closed oh and then you go swim underwater I just like
to point out that Rob Gronkowski in a pool playing 500 would be the human cheat code of all human
cheat monsters he's been training for that moment in his entire life monster so yeah I guess fix
NFL overtime or don't I don't really care I really don't what do you think what happened if you had
offenses going head to head though like both offenses lined up against each other it'd be great
that they wouldn't well the they wouldn't like the line play no one would touch each other on the
line play because they both being pass protected like basically titty bumping but if you if you
do a running play not only can your offense line and sack the other quarterback but your running
back can come around the edge and hit the quarterback like yeah yeah I don't know there's a lot I
haven't worked out about this we'll figure it out all right let's finish up guys on chicks come on
Hank all right we only have three minutes before we get kicked out of the studio so it's like we're
gonna have to do a speed round the audio can you guys explain what the semen displacement
what can you guys explain what the semen displacement theory is the semen displacement theory
after you nut you feel you get sleepy there's a semen displacement theory yeah Hank did you
google that what is it let me just google semen here do image search first okay semen displacement
theory theory all right next one Hank well pft looks set up what's up boys how do you guys feel
about Hank clearly watching the bachelor uh I'm a little hurt I don't know what you're talking about
yeah I don't yeah he doesn't even read it off of anything notice when he does the bachelor talk
he doesn't stumble his words at all Jesus I'm just saying he's not reading it's going right from the
Hank Kishon Johnson shout out uh hey guys love you guys I've been a fan for so long
oh wait you want me to explain semen 30 jumpsuits because you guys said it's jumpsuit January
and then I saw a big cat wearing jeans courtside and I burned them all and I'm never listening to
show again yeah but did he see me with little Lucy that was sweet okay semen displacement theory
this is actually we touched on this it's funny how we're always one step ahead of the so-called
scientists yep but semen displacement is just that the human peanut the shape of the human
penis evolved to enable males to substitute their semen for those of their rivals so the reason that
we have penises is so that we can if our mate copulates with another male prior to copulating
with us our dicks can can move all the jizz out before we displace it with our own so good thing
we've got dicks okay okay my boyfriend is my boyfriend is abnormally loud during sex and makes
me feel uncomfortable he's basically screaming is this an acceptable reason to break up with him
I think it I think it depends is it grunts or is it like ah if he's doing that maybe is he cry
gasming cry gasming is so alpha though yeah it is it really is so in touch with your emotions
it's a new age I know it is because you're yeah you're you're basically saying I'm not afraid to
cry I'm so not afraid to cry that I'm going to do it all the time in front of you yeah I'm not
afraid I'm not afraid to cry and come at the same time all right last one uh sup boys one of my
girlfriends has a decent amount of Instagram followers and does some money promos not a lot though
but is now fixated on becoming an influencer and cannot do anything without Instagramming it
does our friendship have any hope for the future wait friendship or
sup boys one of my girlfriends oh so it's another girl yeah girls say girlfriends all the time
um I call you guys my boyfriend's so hot so hot my boyfriend big cat or nobody ever looks at me
yeah it's cool um so she does influencer things does she also do like pictures of like hey
some weird guy heat up my Venmo yeah I'll show you my feet yeah actually that my taters that's
what you should do is you should become just a uh feet pics for money girl no the question is does
her does their friendship have any hope for the future yeah I'm trying to solve their friendship
for them Hank yeah maybe which is the only way so this this lady only operates um out of one of
two emotions one is jealousy and the other is uh narcissism so you need to appeal to one of those
so either you become her all-time photographer and just trail her around like a puppy dog which
sounds awesome don't get me wrong or you make her jealous because you're making some sweet cash
by selling feet pics on Instagram so you do feet only or here's the third option your friendship
crumbles and then you pay her from an anonymous source but it's you a thousand dollars for a
shout-out FaceTime and then you FaceTime with her and you're like hey I just wanted to reconnect
it was me all along and that's a shout-out movie coming out next spring or that's actually
that's a good one you you weasel your way into the background or next to her in one of her pictures
and then you create a burner account being like oh my god I love you with your friend you two are
perfect together I will pay both of you for the feet for the feet double and then you get four feet
going yes that's 20 toes baby we got you that's all those work pick go through all of them use all
the methods and let us know which one works all right that is our show we will see everyone on
Friday from the road can I I want to dive real quick back into the semen displacement theory
because all this is a scientific study that was put together to say sometimes dicks push other guys
sperm out of vaginas when they're having sex and they did they did study so whoever came out with
that great job got caught in real big time real hard see you Friday love you guys
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