Pardon My Take - Ryen Russillo + The World Premiere Of "Chonk (It's Chonk)"

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we have our friend Ryan Rosillo in studio, talking a little MBA, everything that's going on in his life. He is not a failed screenwriter, so stop saying that on the internet. He actually is doing quite well. In LA, we also have the world debut of our new song titled You'll Find Out in a Minute,

Starting point is 00:00:34 and that's not what the title is, it's You'll Find Out in a Minute, like we will tell you in a minute before we do the song. What's the name of our song? Yes. Very excited, the Sonny Digital Joint, we've been sitting on this for a month and a half, we've been very excited to release it to you, and this will be the first time anyone hears it ever on this show. We have FAQs, a little Kyler Murray talk, and we read a headline.

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Starting point is 00:02:38 new music video at noon today. Today at noon, we are live streaming it on YouTube. Make sure you tune in, you'll hear the music, you'll hear the song soon, but you'll get to watch the music video at noon on our YouTube channel, please go watch it there. Today is Friday, March 8th, Daylight Savings, reminder. Wait, right now? On Sunday. This weekend.

Starting point is 00:03:04 We're going to lose an hour, boys. You're such a liar. I'm not joking whatsoever. So spring back. So you turn up at your 200 o'clock back on Sunday morning. And then we'll probably, it's kind of crazy that as adults this shouldn't affect us, it will take me about a month to make up that hour. Because I'd like to point out that this year I made it all through the zone.

Starting point is 00:03:25 I like to do this every couple of years, it's just like a battle of strength and wit against my own brain. I didn't change any of my clocks in my house and I made it. It's so satisfying when it turns back. We should do that, like we should be an autonomous state and just do that as our life. Yeah, like when people, like our radio shows, we should just show up an hour later and be like, no, this is when our show starts. We refuse to acknowledge Daylight Savings.

Starting point is 00:03:54 I refuse to bow to the whims of time. And farmers. And man. Yeah, so. Listen, I live by God's time. When the sun comes up, that's when I wake up. That's when I scroll Twitter for an hour and a half saying I'm going to go to the gym and then just lay in bed and don't get up.

Starting point is 00:04:08 Yes, when I hear the cock of the morning, I arise and I check my apps. And then I go to bed at one o'clock after the central time zone college basketball games over. Yes. So Daylight Savings, reminder, this is our friendly reminder to everyone out there. I think it is this weekend. I might have just missed that one. This might have been just a big disturbance to everybody.

Starting point is 00:04:28 Now that I'm thinking about it, I've read it like in half sleep. There hasn't been a lot of buzz about it this year. So I'm not sure if you're right or if it's just kind of a down year for Daylight Savings. Well, I actually did it just based on nature because Stella's just been getting up a lot earlier because the sun is up earlier. So I'm like, it's got to change soon. Yeah, we're good. Okay, we're good.

Starting point is 00:04:45 It's just okay. So let's talk about the topics that we need to get to before we get to and Ryan, we're still out the first stop. Oh, oh, shit. I just said that. Bleep it out. Bleep that. They can't know the name of the song.

Starting point is 00:04:56 Later on. Later. Okay. Let's start with LeBron James. He has passed Michael Jordan in the all time scoring list. He did it on three six, which is fantastic. Right Hank. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:10 Three six mafia. So his record in the finals and it was a wonderful experience. He was with his longtime teammates, Alex Caruso and and Kyle Kuzma, all the guys that loved them. Rondo was so happy for him. Wagner. It's okay. So obviously like LeBron's career is unassailable at this point, like everything he does, he's

Starting point is 00:05:31 going to break records for the rest of his career. But don't you think it was a little, it felt a little hollow, the fact that he's doing it on a terrible Lakers team. Like if it happened in Cleveland, it would have been a lot bigger of a moment or if they were a good team. But right now, like those guys are his best friends in the world and they all hate him. And Caruso is not a real person. I'm convinced that that Caruso is a crisis actor that they went out, they went to Central

Starting point is 00:05:54 Casting in Hollywood and they're like, we need somebody that looks like he's had all this talent drained by the monstars. It's just so perfect. And his hairline. Like somehow LeBron, I'm convinced got, he got the only guy with the worst hairline in the league to play next to him so that when they stand side by side, everyone's just like, oh, holy shit. Look at that guy.

Starting point is 00:06:11 It's like how you always try to get guests that are shorter than you. What does that look like? Your shoes. I'm not going to lie, this has nothing to do with this. I just saw PFT shoes and I was like, wow. Oh yeah, those are new J's. Yeah, the problem I got Jordan's. Hey, no, I just.

Starting point is 00:06:23 Oh, that's weird. Oh, you didn't, you didn't go with the LeBrons? No, I didn't go with the LeBrons. Oh, PFT is wrapping Jordan's. Well, I thought it'd be disrespectful. I don't think I've reached the point in my career where I would be allowed to wear LeBrons. Literally no words. I've got a lot of work left to do before I can rock LeBrons.

Starting point is 00:06:38 Well, a recurring thing on this show is like whenever I wear something that doesn't make me look like a hobo, Hank's just like, not just me. Well, you have set the bar very low. Yeah, I have. True. Hank and Bubba just look at it and they're like, what is this? We're not taller guys. Oh, I'm sorry.

Starting point is 00:06:54 I washed my shirt. Oh yeah. No, when you wore, you wore like a button down shirt one day and I was like, dude, who died? I wore a suit for a month. Like what's going on here? Yeah, let's go. I had an interview with a different podcast.

Starting point is 00:07:03 It's a record. They're very nice shoes. So LeBron breaks the record is a weird, like they were losing. It's weird that he's a Laker. It's weird that the team is so bad. But yeah, he breaks the record and Caruso. It was the fact that that was his first teammate who like came up and I was like, who the fuck is that guy?

Starting point is 00:07:21 Yeah. Is so perfect. It looks like Steve Blake's younger brother, younger like half brother from the movie Deliverance who's older. Yeah. Somehow. It's his younger. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:33 If Steve Blake grew up on a river in Eastern Kentucky, making moonshine, that's what he would turn out like. So that's the LeBron story. I think this is going to basically be the end. Like the Lakers are dead and we're kind of moving on from it. My new thing is I'm just commenting on all of LeBron's Instagram posts just saying, awesome man. Good luck in the playoffs.

Starting point is 00:07:51 Damn. And just, yeah. Because he's not going to make it. No, but he might. Are you a LeBron standard? I love LeBron. I do love LeBron games. I don't know if you're really, I don't think you're really committed to him.

Starting point is 00:08:01 I do. He'd really do like LeBron James. It sucks that it's not his fault that he's a bad general manager. The funniest part of last night was when they had that fast break and Wagner didn't pass on the ball. Yeah. Missed the dunk. No, no, no.

Starting point is 00:08:16 Oh, that was a different time. That was a different time. They made the dunk and LeBron was so pissed off because he's three points away from tying MJ. Yeah. And they were going back up the court and he just looks around and he goes, these motherfuckers. To no one in particular. And then Wagner tried to shake his hand and he shook him off.

Starting point is 00:08:29 It was like your girlfriend when she's mad at you and you're in a fight and you try to like rub her shoulder and she's like, I just don't want to be touched. Don't want to be touched. All right. So the other story that we have, we have a lot of anonymous scouts. It's anonymous scout season and Kyler Murray is getting all of the blame for one possible heat height gate where he has real. This is real.

Starting point is 00:08:52 Yes. So he is someone is claiming, I think someone told Dan, anonymous scout told Dan Patrick that people think Kyler Murray has done something to his height, which doesn't really make sense because I'm pretty sure they have their shoes off and it's like they're, the way they do it is they do take their shoes off and they put, they go, uh, ankles together. So it's like very hard to, to fib it at all. And you're on a decline as well. Right.

Starting point is 00:09:18 So it's hard to stand on your tiptoes when you do it. Right. And so the question now is going to be, will Kyler Murray get remeasured at his pro day because people are saying he faked it somehow, which is just possible. Like the fact that we did a month about Kyler Murray's height, oh, I'm not done. And then he proved that he wasn't five eight, a short guy. He then proved, you know, it was five, 10 and a half. And then everyone's like, well, let's, you know what, we're not done yet.

Starting point is 00:09:42 Well, first of all, he wasn't five, 10 and a half. He was like five, 10 and an eighth. So he just barely made that cut. He's a sellout in other words. Is there, is there like a term for a short guy who, who pretends he's tall? Yeah. PFT. He's a major PFT.

Starting point is 00:09:56 But yeah. Don't be such a PFT, Kyler. But which messed up. No, I'm disappointed in him, but you know what? This could be a good learning opportunity for him if he really is five, nine and seven eights or whatever. And he comes back. But I think that there is something to it.

Starting point is 00:10:11 The temperature of the room matters, whether or not you measure from the base matters. How much you slept? How much you slept that night matters. Much water. If you're a little bit horny that like all the blood flow situation happens. So our speculation was that he may have slept upside down for a few days or weeks or on a decline because we're told that that lengthens your spine a little bit. So there's a number of ways that you can game this.

Starting point is 00:10:33 He also, my, my favorite is that the, the anonymous scout keeps getting brought up like everywhere. Yes. I think it's the same guy. I think there's like one anonymous scout who's very industrious that calls into all of these shows, just floating rumors. The NFL is so funny how like these, these pre-draft rumors start. And as far as I am concerned, it's essentially just every team just trying to fuck with each

Starting point is 00:10:56 other. Like it's one guy from one team who wants to devalue the first pick in the draft and possibly be able to trade into that spot or, you know, get the cardinals to have second, you know, second guess it. All these things that they bring up essentially just so that they can get more value out of their pick. So he had it with Kyler Murray, not only the fake height, but he's also got apparently a big time attitude issue.

Starting point is 00:11:22 So Charlie Casterly, who is like, Charlie Casterly is just the resident old man NFL old man yells a cloud. He just looks like a general manager. So they keep him around. What, what, what even is he? So he's nothing anymore. He did work for the Redskins and the Texans and his all time record, like as a GM is like 14 and 40 or something.

Starting point is 00:11:41 So he's like, he just looks like Ronald Reagan ate a sour warhead. Yeah. And he's junkyard. Bill Polian. Yeah. He's just, he's, he's Bill Polian at least had some success. He's Bill Polian. If Bill Polian didn't stay in the Holiday Inn last night, yeah, he's Bill Polian.

Starting point is 00:11:55 If he, if Bill Polian took Ryan Leaf, right? So Charlie Casterly has said, quote, about, about Kyler Murray and his interviews at the combine. These were the worst comments I ever got on a high rated quarterback and I've been doing this a long time. Oh, thanks for that. We didn't know that. I love that.

Starting point is 00:12:13 What we didn't know is resume. Long time. That's the entire resume. Don't look into it. Just long time. Uh, leadership, not good. Study habits, not good. The board work below not good, not good at all in any of those areas, raising concerns

Starting point is 00:12:28 about what this guy is going to do. Now people will say we're going to compare them to Patrick Mahomes, we're going to run an offense like Mahomes, we're going to run an offense like Baker Mayfield, but those guys are much different. Those guys, you never question them about their ability on the board. You never question them about their leadership ability, their work habits. They were outstanding in those areas. This guy is not outstanding in those areas and it showed up in the interview.

Starting point is 00:12:51 Now this was a 10 minute interview and I'm pretty sure that people did the same thing with Baker Mayfield. So already Charlie Casterly has like contradicted himself. People definitely question Baker Mayfield's leadership, his maturity, the ball grabbing, the, like all these things. So it's essentially the same. And it's like, what are we even talking about here? Kyler Murray hasn't done any of those things.

Starting point is 00:13:14 Correct. He just, he just wins. He just has the potential since he's in Oklahoma quarterback to at some point grab his testicles. He's literally lost two games in his entire life playing football from high school on. So to me, this means one of two things. Number one, it means that he doesn't give a fuck and the Arizona Cardinals have already told him we're going to take you and then you don't give a shit about the rest of your interviews.

Starting point is 00:13:38 So either Baker was in or it's John Gruden. The fact that he hasn't done Gruden's quarterback camp with this class since he's not allowed to anymore, I could imagine like the board work being well below average for everybody involved. Yes. That's a major, major advantage that you had entering the NFL prior to two years ago. That's true. You didn't get on the Gruden bus.

Starting point is 00:13:58 You didn't get on that train. Yeah. But you know what, like they, they would find character concerns with anybody or issues with anybody. Yes. So what is very, very good at finding red flags. If it was John Henry, they'd be like, Oh, he drives these railroad spikes too hard. He's going to have injury concerns.

Starting point is 00:14:12 Yes. I'm too competitive. I love that the Cardinals are going to possibly trade Josh Rosen and draft Kyler Murray because it's like the incompetence to get to that point is so fucking hilarious. The fact that they sucked so bad that they were able to, they traded up for Josh Rosen and then sucked so bad again that they're like, well, let's just get rid of this mistake and go and take another quarterback and probably going to suck again. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:39 And just keep going. That's maybe that's a new like life hack. They just keep trading quarterbacks and drafting quarterbacks. I kind of like that until one ends up being good. You know what I'm a little bit upset about is the fact that there have been zero Wonder Look scores leaked yet. I know. Wonder Look score leaking is one of my favorite times of year.

Starting point is 00:14:56 So anonymous scout. Let's get on that. My favorite. Has it really been none? Yeah. I haven't heard a single one. Like a Goldilocks zone for a quarterback too, where if you score below, call it a 10, they're like, oh, this guy's too dumb.

Starting point is 00:15:09 And then if you score above like a 35, they're like, oh, this guy, he could outsmart our coaches and he'll get bored. Josh Rosen, Aaron Rodgers will turn into a border collie. He's starting to gnawing on his muscles. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to have to give him a job. Otherwise, he's going to, you know, tear up all your shoes.

Starting point is 00:15:24 Yeah. Give him a vest to wear around and he'll think he'll think that he's doing something meaningful. You just want a perfect lab right in the middle. Exactly. So if you score not too dumb, won't poop in the house. Not a chocolate lab either. A golden, you know, won't hump your furniture, but will protect you from a burglar. That's the fun part about the way to get brown dogs.

Starting point is 00:15:43 No, I was going to say anonymous draft season, like the chocolate labs for some reason always, they always have the character concerns. You never see that from anywhere else. That's right. It's just for some reason, it's like every single time, the white labs, nope, no problem. They're great leaders in the chocolate labs. Hey, people are asking questions. They're a little too flashy.

Starting point is 00:16:03 Yeah, exactly. They run too much. Yeah, the stock's too fast. They don't throw enough. Yeah. They don't think the game is really what it comes down to. Anonymous discounts. I would like to bring up one very sad point that we just found out before the show started.

Starting point is 00:16:19 Okay. ESPN has officially pulled the plug on the Booger Mobile. So we had a good idea this was going to come when Jason Witton decided to quit and just quit and leave everybody by quitting. But now they've made it official that Booger, he's either going to be in the booth, he's going to be in the sidelines, or he's not going to be involved at all, but the bottom line is our sweet prince, the Booger Mobile is done. Let's get Booger in the booth.

Starting point is 00:16:44 I actually had a thought about that. What's the stop? Why don't they just get somebody with a great narrating voice? They don't have to know football. Morgan Freeman? Frank Caliendo. I was thinking Morgan Freeman. If you look at my notes, I put Morgan Freeman, good in booth.

Starting point is 00:16:59 Wait, hold on. Why don't they just have Frank Caliendo be the third person? And then every week it's like a surprise who is going to be doing the booth. My second note was replace him with Caliendo and you get nine analysts for the price of one. You can have Charles Barkley in the booth. Well, yeah. ESPN is all simultaneous.

Starting point is 00:17:20 Right. And ESPN is trying to get the millennial crowd. They're getting everyone engaged. How about on Monday morning, you do a Twitter poll, who would you like to see announced Monday Night Football tonight? And Frank Caliendo has to do one of the four voices. Right. With the Raiders games, it's always John Gruden.

Starting point is 00:17:37 Yes. That'd be amazing, right? With the Dolphins games, it can be Scarface. Mm-hmm. Ooh, that's a good point. Yeah. With New England games, it's always Ben Affleck from Good Will Hunting. Yep.

Starting point is 00:17:48 Exactly. Or Ben Affleck from the town. Yep. Or Ben Affleck from Gone Girl. Yeah. Ben Affleck from the, what was it, Counten? That movie was so bad. God damn it.

Starting point is 00:18:00 Or Ben Affleck from Argo. Yeah. So it's your choice, really, New England. You got it, Hank. Ben Affleck wasn't in Gone Girl. What's up with Ben Affleck? No, he wasn't in Gone Girl. What's up with Ben Affleck?

Starting point is 00:18:11 Yeah, what's that, Hank? I'll take that back. All right, you know what? I'll send that. But you know what? I thank you for interrupting me because it should absolutely be Frank Caliendo doing Mark Wahlberg for all the New England games. So yeah, Frank Caliendo, ESPN, hire Frank Caliendo.

Starting point is 00:18:23 Yes. All right. So that's good stacking of takes right there. That was. Yeah. I can't put one right on time. You hit both by notes for that, Morgan Freeman or Frank Caliendo. Yes.

Starting point is 00:18:33 I mean, it's, if it's that obvious, then ESPN will not do it because it's too obvious. But XFL, if you're listening, Mark Trussman, easy money in the bank. How about just have all Tampa Bay games, Mark Trussman just talks and it's just silence. Why is his face so shiny? I don't know. Is he okay? I don't know. Just because like, if you live in Canada and like from the months of, uh, in our Canadian

Starting point is 00:18:57 listeners, please correct me if I'm wrong, from the months of like November to about April, you just have to cover your face in Vaseline to keep in the warmth. So you stay young. Right. Exactly. So you just walk around with Vaseline. Everyone walks around like a prize fighter. I just thought they like are so messy about eating pancakes.

Starting point is 00:19:13 It's just maple syrup. That's two. Just glazing their face all the time. That's two. All right. Let's do. The world debut of our new hit single. So it is with sunny digital shout out sunny digital.

Starting point is 00:19:27 The best producer in the game. We actually signed an exclusive verbal agreement to only do hits with him. And so do you want to say the name of it? The name of the song is called Chonk. Is it it's Chonk or no, it's Chonk and then in parentheses, it's Chonk. I like when they do that. Chonk parentheses. It's Chonk.

Starting point is 00:19:45 Yeah, I like that. Make sure that that's exactly what it says, okay? Because then people know like, you know, the two titles and always gets people going. Yeah. So basically it's a song just about thick stuff. Yeah. It's just thick stuff in general. We're done thick shaming things.

Starting point is 00:19:59 We were inspired originally by that otter at that one zoo who got shamed off Twitter. And so here's the deal. Listen to it now. At noon we have our music video coming out. It is going to be on YouTube. Please, if you can, both subscribe to our YouTube channel and then also interact. You know, leave a comment. Tell us if you like it.

Starting point is 00:20:23 If you don't, don't tell us if you don't like it please or we'll just be devastated. Let me just do my YouTube voice. Hey guys, make sure to like, subscribe and download as always. Yeah. Leave a comment below. Sound off in the comment sections. That's perfect. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:36 That's pretty good, right? That was very good. Every YouTube instructional. Hey guys. Hey guys. So this is, I'm going to show you how to do layers in Photoshop today. Hey guys, I'm opening up a box from one of my listeners today. Make sure you like and subscribe in the comments.

Starting point is 00:20:49 Yeah. That, yeah. Hey guys. RIP mailman. RIP mailman. Hey guys, this is my ASMR football takes section. And then. Hello.

Starting point is 00:20:59 Will you also. The yellow line is not official. You also have the one that like the weird, the weird dark like deep voice or robot voice like today we will tell you why John F. Kennedy was shot by three people from Cuba. Let me take you back to 1955 and like, they just go on and on with this monotone voice. You just watch and it's just still pictures that's so that the government can't track them by their voice. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:23 And then the YouTube headline is explosive JFK documents revealed or like the, the video, the conspiracy theory that gets put out by the people that thought loose changed and go far enough. That even starts out with, Hey guys, before we jump into why the United States government bombed itself on 9 11, make sure to like subscribe and leave a comment down there below. Have a great day. You tubers. See you later.

Starting point is 00:21:47 Tubers. And then right to that monotone voice. All right. So please subscribe to my without being said, here is the world debut of chunk parentheses. It's chunk. This album is dedicated to all the chunk in the world and thickness and in health to all the people that call the cops on me when I was just trying to exercise my right not to exercise.

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Starting point is 00:25:24 Yeah. was always going to be a banger. Yeah. Well, no, I actually was asking that to the, I was hoping the audience would, what'd you think guys? Record yourself answering this question. Yeah. Just talk back to us. Thank you. I appreciate that. That's awesome that you guys liked it. Yeah. Oh, wait, you didn't like it? Oh, no. Well, you personally, you one guy, you can unsubscribe. Who? And resubscribe. Oh, you want to know who the other voices were. Oh, that was actually our friends, Troll Withers, Tyler and Roan. So those are the other voices on that. Yeah. Yeah. Good call that we should have mentioned them. So please make sure to nominate

Starting point is 00:25:56 us for a Grammy award. So we can get started on this EGOT. Yeah. Well, let's get it going. So make sure you tune in noon. It's coming out on YouTube. Let's get to our interview with Ryan Racillo. Before we do that, a quick word from a couple of our sponsors. First up, we have Postmates. This actually is a deal that like, if you're not taking advantage of this deal, you're insane. Would you agree? And also I'm trying to stall because I don't know what the ad. I don't know what the deal is. Here's the ad. Okay. Postmates. No, Postmates, we use Postmates actually all the time. We use it when we, when you can't get delivery from maybe a restaurant. So you download Postmates as your personal food delivery, grocery delivery, whatever you can think

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Starting point is 00:29:36 So not failed yet. He has actually some great podcasts. Go listen to him on Dual Threat with The Ringer. Go listen to him on The Ryan Recillo Show, narcissistic much, on the ESPN. And then you do your Mondays with Simmons on his podcast. That's right. It's Ryan Recillo. And I want to start with your big theory. Yeah, I thought I nailed that. Your big theory that's basically got a lot of steam that everyone is unhappy in the NBA. And are you just projecting, like, let's talk about your mental health? Well, I'm really good at identifying unhappiness. That's always been one of my strengths. And it was weird actually yesterday when I did get up and Ryan Clark, a commercial break, was like, you're the Kyrie of ESPN. And I was like, wow,

Starting point is 00:30:19 you can back off. Like, I like Ryan Clark a lot. The LSU stuff were tight that way. But I was like, excuse me. You should have crossed him up. I got pissed. Give him the heads up. Yeah, I was, I was like, initially was like starting to twitch a little bit on the inside. I was like, relax, we still have the seas. Was she calling you Flat Earther or was he saying that you're just unhappy all the time? Complain? Well, I just think that anybody, yeah, I mean, there's definitely stuff like complain. Do you believe the Earth is round? I'll just cut to the chase. Based on footage I've seen. Yeah. Okay, it looks like 22 of Earth. I watched First Man. Okay, yeah, actually, that was First Man. We'll get to maybe we can get to that a little bit later about film. I was just

Starting point is 00:30:52 I'm in film. I was, well, I can help you're around the industry. Yes. Were you pissed off that they didn't include the American flag? No, once I read all of the stuff, like that was one of those classic things where I go, why doesn't this movie get more love? And then somebody in the industry was like, oh, flag controversy. And I went, oh, no, Oscars doesn't like that. Like Oscars is definitely more aware, you know, I think Moonlight won best picture. So as soon as it happens, you're like, okay, did I miss the message? And then I read all of the things and it was like that had nothing to do with it. It wasn't it wasn't denying the flag. Can I give you a little tip on maybe how you can get more Oscar buzz around your name? Because I heard absolutely no zero buzz around

Starting point is 00:31:30 Rhine Resolution. Nothing on it. I invited a one party, though. Oh, really? Which one? I don't remember. It was an E-Vite. Yeah, that was part of it. I went to Riff Raff's show in Hermosa, three songs in and out. I sent you Riff Raff's script that we still have to make a movie with him. That's right. He's a screenwriter. He's actually putting more scripts in front of me than you have. Yeah, he's more successful than you at this point in your career. But hey, you know what? That's okay. I accept that. Yeah. I'm not gonna argue. Poisonberry Tech, from me to you. Here's how to get more Oscar buzz. Just write a movie that's about white people solving racism. The Academy loves that. I haven't done one of those yet. Yeah, you should think about it. I don't

Starting point is 00:32:06 know that I could. Are you open to doing like advertisement in your scripts? I didn't know where that sentence was going. My career is echoing that bit. Yeah, but like the Pepsi can, Kylie Jenner, you know, solved racism. That was amazing. You should make an entire script that's like, this kid's addicted to Pepsi. I don't know. Okay, we'll pitch that later. Does anybody have a pen so I can write some of these down. All right. So I actually do want to talk about this NBA stuff. You are the NBA guy. You were the first that I heard of kind of came up with this. Why is every young star in the NBA pissed off? Why do they all hate their spot? You had Anthony Davis trying to get traded. You have Kyrie basically getting mad almost every week. Jay Butt is furious all the

Starting point is 00:32:52 time. But he's not hanging out with Mark Wahlberg's daughter. Jay Butt being best friend. Is that what you guys call him? Well, PFT always said that he wasn't a top 15 guy. And I was like, he is dude. But then like last week, he called him Jay Butt. And I was like, you could have just said Jay Butt, you would have won that argument. Yeah, Jay Butt is just a terrible name to come back. Well, some of his Instagram posts maybe dropped him out of the top 15. Yeah. You know, when he started doing the, what was it? The Batman stuff. He's been doing a lot. He's a big Taylor Stress guy. He's dressed up as like a firefighter. Yeah. You know what's funny about social media? Go on this age. Yeah. In today's Twitter sphere. As much as everyone complains about it. And

Starting point is 00:33:27 there's definitely a lot of problems. A lot of times I kind of like it because it exposes who everybody is. So you go like, Oh, okay, I don't know you that well. But now I do. Oh, you're a delusional person or you're, you lose all your best. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty much hot. How mad are you doing right now? Bad. Yeah. That's always hard to get out. Yeah. But wasn't it so much worse? Wasn't it so much worse when it meant something? Like your week's not going to change. Remember the days? Like I remember being in college. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, really? Well, no, not. You're not going to kidnap yourself. No, but I agree with you. There were deaf. There was definitely a phase in like your early twenties where it's like, this is really bad. Yeah. This

Starting point is 00:34:05 is unfixable. I'm not there anymore. Nothing is too bad anymore. But as far as Twitter goes, like, do you actually believe that the fact that some of these guys came up on Twitter, essentially, it's actually making them unhappy in their NBA peers with their megastars and millionaires? Back to the thing we never seem to get to here is that I remember a couple of months ago, like I started keeping a list of this. And at first on, on me over a year ago where I go, wait a minute. So we've had LeBron, Durant, Harden, Westbrook, Curry even, we've had, you know, depending on how you look at the rankings are going to be the five best players in the league. Why? Yeah. We haven't even gotten there yet. Because it hadn't happened yet. Got it.

Starting point is 00:34:44 But those five guys had all at that point over a year ago had an ad campaign built around the haters. And you go, that's weird. LeBron was the first one to do it. Durant had it. And then you had the Harden things like, what if I played defense with no offense? You're like, wait a minute, are we actually like making fun of the fact that you don't even try on defense? Like, that's a cool thing. And then Curry, who it seems like it's not just hatred from Golden State, who they are, I think he's like the most disrespected by his peer superstar, which is weird. Wait, who hates Steph? I mean, we joke about it. Yeah. What, when the Steph thing was awesome, then it definitely flipped. I think the whole

Starting point is 00:35:16 Golden State thing has a lot to do with that too. But does anyone really hate Steph? Like, I feel like a lot of the athletes hate Steph, like he's down real, like in some way, it's some bad thing because he had this awesome upbringing, you know, and then it starts turning into this privileged conversation, which I don't want to get into. But it felt like all five of these guys had ad campaigns, or at least the one commercial shoe run that was built on addressing the haters. So you go, man, that's really weird. Like they're, they feel like they're dealing with hate. And I'm sure Hardin felt like he was dealing with hate. LeBron deals with it because he's the number one guy to ran. I got in all these things. But then you start to take it further out and you go, well,

Starting point is 00:35:52 who the hell's happy in this league? Kawhi quits for an entire year. Yep. And it's not like he was hurt. Right. It's not like he was playing for the suns. By the way, are you going to ever shout me out for being the one who tipped you off to that? You know, it's great. Did I tell you that story? Did you hit up woj? I hit up woj and woj just remember ghosted me. Just remember the gambling guys always know I got tipped. I'm going to give you the first time I'd ever heard of Kawhi having major issues with San Antonio was big cat sending me a text and goes, Hey, check out. And I don't have any spurs contacts except for somebody who wouldn't call me back. And then I was like, maybe I'll just try woj and see what he's up to and ghosted me. The word on the street. He put that

Starting point is 00:36:30 in his back pocket. He's like, I'm hearing rumblings. The word on the street was Kawhi was playing two on two every single day him. And I think it was Boris D L versus Tim Duncan. And that's all he would do. All he would do because then I checked on it was somebody else and somebody else. And then it was just all these things where he was just detached from the whole deal. And I'm like, how is he this upset? Now, people that are that are in this mode now of player empowerment, the players never wrong ever. And to me, that's stupid. Like why would you go on every single show and just stick up for the player every single time? Like sometimes the player's wrong. Sometimes the team's wrong. Kawhi's playing for the best organization in basketball

Starting point is 00:37:07 in the last 20 years for the best coach developed into a superstar from a guy that you were like, Oh, he might be kind of a nice three and D wing guy. San Diego state. Yeah, right. I mean, he played like power forward in college. Right. Do you think that it's it's something that's changed in the last like 15 years? Or do you think that players were always like a little bit on happy kind of had the same mentality? They just didn't have a place to vent it all the time. So like this stuff was kept in house because they couldn't tweet it out. They weren't, they certainly weren't going to talk to the beat reporters about this type of shit. But there was still like thinking about it the whole time. But just now they have

Starting point is 00:37:41 a medium to put it out on. It feels different to me, man, it does. I mean, it's a really good question. But I mean, I can keep doing the list, right? We got Anthony Davis, Paul George forces way out of Indy. Jimmy Butler has been mad only every place that he's gone to and he still doesn't really fit with the Sixers. Kyrie's, you know, you go back to Mellow, you can go back to Chris Paul, you could make an argument that 75% of the top, however far you want to go with this has been upset at some point. And maybe it's them realizing their power, which is kind of a good thing. But I think long term, you go, is this really like, are we at this tipping point in the league where you go, Oh, cool, I root for a team.

Starting point is 00:38:19 And my favorite player, if he's really good, like he gets to get mad with two years left on this contract and forces way out and we get nothing back that's even close. Sweet. Like, that's not a great formula. I don't care who you are. It's, it's, it's a weird, like complex issue because it's, it's interesting to think about it in the social media sense. I was listening to Silver when he was doing the thing with Simmons at the Sloan conference and he was saying silver. Yeah, Mike Silver. Yeah, Adam Silver. All right. No, Mike Silver. He was doing another class. I'm holding back. Okay. Adam Silver. Adam Silver. When he said that basically these guys don't have friends, they don't have contacts, they go, you know, days without going

Starting point is 00:39:04 out because they everything that everything that happens later in the sounds earlier. Yeah, right. And the biggest, the biggest thing that I took away from it is they are exposed to too many opinions about themselves and eventually that will fuck with your brain. Like eventually, if you're constantly, I think it messes you up. It messes you up. Everyone can pretend that no one like reads the comments and then doesn't listen to the haters. Imagine getting done with an NBA game and dropping 35 and the first thing you do is go run to your mentions. But then if I said to you, can you imagine that everyone of us that did ESPN radio shows, every single one of us, when we went to commercial break, looked at our fucking mentions

Starting point is 00:39:36 and by the way, I've worked with guys that would have the tweet deck up during the segment. Right. And I'm like, what are you doing? And on top of all that, you can't like, it's not like the old days where you can't finish a game, go out to a club, go out to a restaurant, because you're going to be on Instagram, you're going to be on like, so you kind of your best friend is your phone and the feedback. So you get stuck in this cycle and it's weird because all these guys are unhappy and it's really hard to sit there and be like, Oh, I feel bad for these guys. But in a weird way, I kind of understand where they're at because they, you know, every move they make. And it's also, it's also gone like up with the NBA's rise on social media, the this league

Starting point is 00:40:16 Twitter community, where if someone likes the Instagram, it's like this league, petty wars. Can you imagine having that where every move you make is, is like an article on slam. Right. The list, this league or, you know, Lonzo unfollowed this real turn Tampa. They deserve some of it. Like KD deserves KD signing one of your deals and being like, why are you guys all asking about my freedom? Right. And he's doing business operations out here in New York City. And you're like, Oh, okay. So what am I supposed to do? But PFT, like, I think your point though, of are we just as much as they're more aware of the hate, are we just more aware of their mental state? Or do we just have a really unhappy group of star? I don't,

Starting point is 00:40:57 I don't know what the answer is to that because I don't, I don't know. I don't know how unhappy or happy guys were 15 years ago. But everything seems to be far more complicated. And I think we always do this thing where if you guys complained about your job, there's so many kids that listen to this, obviously young kids that very young 14 that look up to you guys. They don't even understand how much money $75,000 a podcast is. It's more than your dad makes. Yeah. Or your stepdad. Oh, so Doug talking to you, you would have it. There would be things that you would explain to them and be like, what's wrong with you? So it's really easy for all of us to be like, what the hell do you guys care? Like, why is it 30 million? There's a line of sympathy that

Starting point is 00:41:40 I'm willing to give. I'm willing to have sympathy to a point. But then when I see Kyrie do this thing where it's like every week, it's this profound statement, but then it's also sucks. And this isn't what I signed up for. But I did Uncle Drew. And this isn't what I signed up for. But I love check out my new Kyrie release, you know, and all these things like all of it's part of it. And I get that a lot of it sucks. It would suck to be in a team that loses or had high expectations and asked by the same group of reporters every day, Hey, what's going on? How did you feel about today? What's the difference? How do you turn this team around? That would suck. But what wouldn't suck? And maybe I'm just breaking my own rule here is making 30 million and being an icon and

Starting point is 00:42:17 having the best handles in the game, you know, and going, I get to go out and compete into my 30s and do something nobody else in the world really gets to do except for a few select guys. That's like, yeah, if Kyrie, if I were Kyrie and I got down on myself, I'd just go cross someone up. Like just break a couple of ankles. That's what he looked like against Golden State. I think it would make you feel better. Absolutely. Would make a guy fall down in front of you. Yeah, go to the fucking grocery store. No, that'd be great. Just cross a couple of people up. I like watching those videos when somebody's like crossing the street and you cross them up and the person like falls down the middle of the road, gets hit by a car. It's an old person. So funny. It's great.

Starting point is 00:42:48 Yeah. We got an elderly problem in this world. They get to vote and they decide our future. I just came up with a crazy idea. You know how like in Congress and in the White House, they have those rooms called skiffs, which are like secure communication rooms. Not a nautical term. The other skiffs. Yeah. So you can't like cell phones don't work in there. What if you designed a portable skiff for NBA players to keep in their pockets, which disabled the phones of everybody around them so they couldn't get pictures taken. I like that. Cheating on a Kardashian. I like that. The restaurant idea where you check your phone. Yeah. See, I think you can make it. I love the technology play here. Yeah, I love it. I mean, you know, I'm huge as a tech,

Starting point is 00:43:23 Duran's in a tech, but huge would choose entrepreneur. Could you go Instagram DMs all the time? Like what's your what's your bar idea, your club idea? But the club idea is you go to a club and you have to check your phone in a cubby that you get, you know, it's like Jeter's house. Yeah, you get it. Yeah. Basically Jeter's house with fruit. And then there's also, but there is an Instagram booth. So you can go because, you know, everyone's like, we got to capture this night. Right. Girls aren't going to want to go to this club. Right. So they can go into the Instagram booth. The angles are spot on. The lighting is great. You take your picture. You can upload it to Instagram. You can still post. It's tough walking around Soho by yourself without somebody

Starting point is 00:44:01 to take pictures of you. The cobblestone. It's unbelievable how many photos I've missed out on. There's that one street that's got the lighting that hits it just right. Perfect. Five o'clock and you jump in the air and you do the star jump. But I seriously do think that like these guys, I did it with a timer. It didn't work. It does have to suck a little bit to be like, we can't go anywhere because it becomes a big deal. That's, that's my hope. Like I am, I'm not oblivious to the parts of this that would suck and to be this young and to be put on the stage and have all these different things happening. But why, why is there misery different than a football player's right? Why is there football? Like, why is it our relationship to

Starting point is 00:44:35 the basketball player that always feels more intimate than any of the other sports? I mean, that's, that's certainly part of it. But these, I think this is an issue and I don't, I don't know how to solve it. I don't know if they're wrong. I don't know if we're wrong for not taking I'm being serious about it, but there are moments where I go, I roll like, come on. Yeah, it's not that like, you know, Kyrie doing the troll in the tunnel with, with Kevin Durant and then being like, why are people talking about this? And then like, dude, you trolled your fan base. Yeah. And then the other day when he shows up and I don't know what he meant by,

Starting point is 00:45:08 I can't wait to not have to deal with this shit every day. I don't think, I think people try to turn it into that means he hates Boston. I don't know that that's what he was even doing, but I mean, sometimes you have to hide the misery as part of the game. Right. Like what's the solution to the Anthony Davis? You don't want your guy to two years in, three years in, because it is going to keep getting less. You know what I mean? Right. There'll be a guy that with three years left goes, I don't, I mean, Stephen, it's the Stephen Jackson. Right. And it was one of my favorite things is like, I remember Stephen Jackson. I don't know the numbers to the, to the, you know, dollar here, but he had done an extension and then

Starting point is 00:45:39 immediately wanted out and I asked him about it on a radio interview. I'm talking 10 years ago and he hung up on me. And this is before I'd ever met him or anything. And then I met him a few times and he's great. And he just cuts through it all. And I talked to him about him later and he goes, well, I knew I was never going to get that extension anywhere else. So he was like, I just signed it and I worried about it later. So yeah, I get your, like the mellow thing was, I don't care about the fifth year, I'm never going to get that 50 or somewhere else. Right. The bulls were objectively a better basketball fit for him, but he's like, fuck that. I want this money. So what is the fit though? Like what is the solution?

Starting point is 00:46:09 The league, eventually the league is going to have to do something because if guys are just moving on to three or four teams constantly and it's all, you know what I mean? That's for the empowerment people that I get a little annoyed with. You're like the model to just, I can do whatever I want the minute I'm unhappy. And then people blame AAU because that's what happens at AAU now, which I always think is amazing. We always find new ways to blame AAU. I was actually about to blame AAU. So I'm glad that you're jumping in telling me not to before. I'm not sure that it is. It might be the reason, but it's kind of like that thing that we joke about where you go in today's age of social media. But then I think AAU's been getting blamed for over

Starting point is 00:46:44 20 years. Like, oh man, these are around the back passes. So I don't know if that's accurate or not. If you were going to collectively bargain something, well, what are you going to do? Are you going to, the players do agree to a franchise tag? Like that's not going to happen. Could you do something where if it's your guy, you can pay him whatever you want. It never actually impacts the cap. That actually might make some sense. I'd like that. Or if you put in, if teams were allowed to put in higher bonuses for actually winning stuff, that might actually, that might bring back some of the competition. Because I think what the root of a lot of this is, the players, they grow up playing against

Starting point is 00:47:17 the same guys, whether it's AAU or, you know, on the Olympic teams and that sort of thing. So they form a bond from a very, very young age. So they're always, you know, they're always on each other's side for everything. And you see all the old guys talk about like, oh, back in my day, we hated each other when we played. And while that's a little bit overblown, because old guys like to complain about new guys a lot, I think that there's some truth to the fact that there was more animosity, which made for a more compelling product to the viewer to be watching. So if you gave like higher bonuses, if you were allowed to give massive bonuses for, you know, winning playoff series, things like that, you could see like a little bit more competitiveness on the

Starting point is 00:47:53 court. But wouldn't they just make another super team to just keep making more money? But then other teams could offer bonuses themselves. I don't really have a problem with the super team thing. But then again, like if LeBron decided to take the mid-level and gold or golden state, you go, okay, well, this sucks. Like I'm ready for Durant to move on, because I think we all realize it might revitalize this thing here a little bit. Yes, absolutely. Is there a way of saying that my idea is stupid as shit? No, I just don't know how you would do the math on it. Like how? I think it is stupid as shit now that I thought about it.

Starting point is 00:48:20 What about this? Do you want a dumber one? No. For every failed trade demand, they get to throw in a club option here. I was cleaning up for you, PFT. PFT actually had a great idea the other day. If we became a podcast that was so player empowerment that you can just decide what hoop you want to shoot on at any point in the game. Well, no, that's actually a legit thing. There's nobody stopping Anthony Davis from dunking and scoring points for the Lakers when he's playing against the Lakers. Right. How about this? That's how much we feel that though they have a right. They have a right to choose which hoop

Starting point is 00:48:53 to shoot at. You know what? I think there's some people in the media that be like, is it wrong? Good point. Is it wrong? Like you just in that moment feel like I'm more aligned with these guys spiritually. I don't agree with it, but I respect where they're coming from. I started the day as a son, but I got to tell you at halftime I felt more like a wizard. Yeah. Katie would absolutely do that. Dude, just coming in like they're like one team's playing with eight guys because they're like, well, we're living our best life and our best life is eight guys on the floor at once. Yeah, I like that. Eight on three. We're just closer. We had a summer house. So I know the baskets count on the score. If you dunk on your own hoop, do you get those points?

Starting point is 00:49:29 I think everybody gets them stat sheet. Yeah, you could like that. Really great. So it just becomes like a shoot around. How do you do plus minus? Yeah, that would be, uh, well, I think you do it on each side. You show up on the box score as a Laker and as a Pelican. So you'd have three different, like different lines of you were a minus six as a wizard. Yeah. We got smarter guys at Sloan that can cut the analytics on this or you could just say, Hey, we're done with plus minus. You guys have less work to do. And everybody wins. This is something I thought would be funny 10 years ago. And now I actually think it might be more like a Portlandia skit. Yeah. And we're pretty close to it.

Starting point is 00:50:02 Can you imagine how awesome a league would be if they just redrafted everyone every summer? Oh, everybody's a one year deal. And these guys are all good financially. Like you, the argument used to be before. I'm like, why would you give up four or five year deals for one year deal? So for the most part, like nobody really ever gets hurt that bad. I mean, there's, there's one injury that's like, ah, man, that sucks. But I mean, look at the money. Chris Paul turned down in the security because he was ready to just bounce and go to Houston. So what if you just every year, would it be awesome or would it be terrible for the league? I think it would be bad in the basketball sense because basketball is a sport that like you need

Starting point is 00:50:35 to play with. You know the game. Yeah. Come on. I'm back. I bet I played two weeks ago. How'd you do? Uh, not well. What was your plus minus? It was, I had, uh, seven rebounds, 0 for three shooting. And, uh, I, I, I got calls, a guy called and a foul on me on me trying to get a defensive rebound. I was like, you serious? That's soft. That's pretty soft. That's box them out. Maybe with my forearm, whatever. Uh, but the, you, if you did it with like groups of three, so got like, you basically got to draft pods of three. So kind of like recess where you'd be like, we're a package deal. Right. So you have a little bit of continuity and you have guys who play together. So you would have to draft big

Starting point is 00:51:14 threes. Right. So you could be like, okay, first pick was Curry, Clay and Durant. And then later on it would be, we got the big three, a tray, young, herder and Collins. Yes. But what you'd have to do is you'd have to like start each off season by declaring certain guys like team captain. So they'd have to do their own draft of their big three. Yeah. And then draft with draft that. And it's a snake draft because what I do love about NBA guys is that they think they're best friends with each other because they follow each other on social media. And they're like, I'd love to play with this guy. It'd be awesome. And then you actually hang out with that person. It'd like be pretending somebody's your best friend for 10 years and then actually starting

Starting point is 00:51:49 to hang out with them after that 10 years have been up and you go, wow, this guy sucks. Yeah, shit. So, although KD and KD probably love each other because I feel like they have a similar disposition of just being cranky all the time. I mean, I mean, that's the funniest thing about all these Knicks rumors. You know, you don't run into too many people with it. I mean, I'm not trying to say something here that isn't already out there in the ethos or whatever. Did I use that right? Yeah. Ethos is more like philosophy. Well, it's philosophical. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But were you saying about the Knicks that you hate them? It's just like, oh, you know, you definitely want to go to the Knicks. Like, why? Yeah. Why? James Dolan's band? The Knicks are

Starting point is 00:52:28 kind of the most overrated brand in sports. Dude, the Mecca. Yeah, respect the Garnman. Respect the Mecca. Billy Joel has played there like 75 times. Yeah, he's got a was he there last night? Probably. I actually did a fish baker's dozen. You're a fish guy. Love him. Yeah. I think Billy Joel just shows up like every night and they tell him when he's not playing. A little fluff head. All right. So did we figure out like how we can get NBA players to not be sad all the time? Prozac. Microdosing. I like when people say like the rest sick of fans will be like, well, you know, less games. Like, okay, you guys ready to take it in silver or dressed it,

Starting point is 00:53:11 Adam? He goes 25% less. Well, no, I just want to, I still want it to be 82 in full checks. I just don't want to play. All right. So, so, I mean, it's a fascinating topic. You actually kind of created it. I feel like you created the narrative. So now it's happened. It's hard to do something. Yeah. So why don't we go with a narrative we created and you can comment on that. Why is no one talking about the fact that LeBron is so clearly an alcoholic? I think that's kind of your lane. Okay. So the numbers are still good. But the load management has been a problem. What a terrible term. It's the worst there ever. Load management. How did you come up with that?

Starting point is 00:53:52 Like, don't you have somebody in PR like, we can figure out a different one here. This one, there's going to be a lot of immature dudes that are going to make jokes about this. I don't get it. Why did you say it's a bad term, right? Well, it's because of lifting proper technique. Oh, yeah, true point. Yeah, warehouse. You ever worked at a warehouse before? No, no. So, you know, why? I don't want to work anywhere that requires me to wear a hernia belt. Have you never done any physical labor? I go beltless. No, I do physical labor all the time, getting out of bed, trying to drag Christmas trees, selling Christmas tree salesman. Are you good? That was awesome. The best. Give me your pitch. What kind of, what kind of tree

Starting point is 00:54:24 are you looking for? I want something, I want it thick, but I don't want it. I don't want to spend too much. How tall is your ceiling? I don't know. Okay, so it's probably pretty average. If you reach up in the sky, can you touch your ceiling? No, no. Probably got like an eight footer. Eight footer? Yeah, we got some awesome Frazier furs over here. You don't want the Douglas furs. Those are for wimps. Here's a Frazier furs. But I have a neighbor that has a Douglas furs and she swears by it. Well, your neighbor's kind of a slut. So you're going to want to look at the, you're going to want to check out the Frazier furs. They've got the nice smell to it. That's what a real Christmas tree smells like. You smell that? Oh, I do. I put the needles

Starting point is 00:54:55 up your mouth. So you got to engage all the senses. In my mouth? No, I'm touching up to your nose. I was wondering how you would deflect off the LeBron alcoholic stuff. Why? Getting PFT to sell you a Christmas tree was something I didn't expect. Why don't you give me your theory and then I'll. On LeBron? Yeah. So LeBron is, he loves wine. He's basically a sommelier for himself. Who's drinking on the sideline? He's drinking wine. He wasn't even playing. Walking into games. He can't go from his private ride to the locker room without having a glass of wine in his hands. That's what... Here's why it isn't an issue. You want to know why it isn't an issue? Is that anybody that actually had a real drinking problem wouldn't advertise it. He thinks the wine glass

Starting point is 00:55:36 thing is cool. Age, connoisseur. Godfather book. Right. It's a sign of status. And so I'm going to be seen with a cab going to a private jet because I think it looks cool. Or I think if you like, you know. I think there are some alcoholics out there that think that it looks cool to be walking around holding like a mad dog, for example. Yeah, but they're a key west. Yeah. All right. So seriously on LeBron, like this has obviously been a complete failure of a year for him. Wouldn't you say? Well, then I'm not making the playoffs. Yeah. And just everything. Right. Right. And everything like the comments have been all over the place. The, you know, the defense, another thing that you pointed out a long time ago. The defense has been terrible. But what,

Starting point is 00:56:18 like, what's the next five years of LeBron? Like, where is he staying with the Lakers? Is someone coming to help? How many wins do you think he's going to have for championships? Right. He doesn't have the no trade. I mean, the easiest thing to do in these shows was you just sit out there and you go, I'm guaranteeing it right now. LeBron's never winning a championship. It's actually the better bet to make because these are really hard. You know, like, remember the end of Kobe? It's like, yeah, but nobody wants it as bad as Kobe. And you go, actually, they're just going to lose a ton of games. And he's a shell of himself. And he has a massive cap number. And people at the end of his run don't want to go play with him now.

Starting point is 00:56:50 Okay. And that was real. And it actually happened. They couldn't get a meeting with Lamarcus Aldridge. So you're saying this is going to happen to LeBron? I can see where it could go that way. Oh, no. Will that be unbelievable if he never made the playoffs as a Laker? I don't think that's going to happen. Ryan Racille just said it. No, no. This year is a failure. If he hadn't gotten hurt, even with the record that they've had since he come back, they still, they make the playoffs. Okay. But then they make the playoffs and they lose in the first round. So I thought they'd be a five or eight seed before the season

Starting point is 00:57:16 started. I don't understand why they built the roster with a bunch of young guys that are always worried about their next contract. And then another five or six vets that are getting one-year deals that are then again, worrying about their next contract. I get that they thought they had to go nuclear to get Anthony Davis out of there because you can't ask nicely for a trade. You have to make it nasty and those guys try to make it nasty and it backfired for a million different reasons. Okay. And part of that is the uncertainty with the Pelicans. So now if you're one of those younger guys, clearly you were like, you weren't a great team before. Right. And now you come back and you're like, this dude who I don't really have that much of a connection with, who's been

Starting point is 00:57:51 mailing it on defense since he got here because he was doing that with Cleveland and nobody cared because what happened? Every broadcast, they'd look at his numbers and they shooting percentage would be like the efficiency at this age. Like, well, yeah, but he's also guarding, you know, Gorgie Jang and he's not moving as much anymore. And it would suck to be as much as I love LeBron, it would suck to be in a film room and watching, I don't even know if you can do that on a LeBron team where there's a rotation where he screws it up and then he turns and points to the next available young guy. Right. He's like, where are you? And you're like, where am I? Like, that was you. But you can't, like there's some guys like Wade and Bosch and maybe even Tristan or Kevin Love

Starting point is 00:58:26 and maybe not, but guys that could at least were not at his stature, but they could talk to him, right? Wade had that ability to be able to talk with him. If you're a younger dude trying to figure out your path in this league, are you going to get on LeBron's ass because he missed a rotation again? You probably aren't. And now you feel even more disconnected because you feel like you're one of the dudes he was trying to trade for another guy that's part of his clientele. So the whole thing, I'm not spinning it as this is good. It isn't. None of it. None of the things I've said are good, but I don't think it's impossible to also figure out some path where this summer, a guy does say he wants to go ahead and play LeBron. Right. I'm sure somebody will. Something,

Starting point is 00:59:03 you know, are you going to seriously sit there and say the next three or four years he's just going to go over and not get anybody to go play with him in LA? Some people think that. That seems crazy. No, I doubt that. Who do you think LeBron would respect as a coach? I want to hear from Hank. Brad Stevens. Brawny Jr. goes to Duke, plays one year, then Brawny Jr. and Coach K both come to Lakers. I love it. I love it. He does like Coach K. Now the Brawny Jr. thing is a real thing that he wants to stay and hopefully if he's good enough to play in the NBA, he wants to stay and be teammates with him. Which I'm cool with. Like, that's an awesome thing. Like, you know, people still remember Griffey Sr. and Griffey too. Anybody remember the Boone family? Yeah. That's

Starting point is 00:59:42 true. So who's the guy? Yeah, who's the guy? Who would LeBron respect as a coach? Aha. Did you laugh at that? I've been saying Phil for quite some time. No, Phil's done. Phil doesn't even know LeBron's a Lakers. My theory. Yeah, he turns it on. He has no idea what's... I can't imagine how confused Phil Jackson would be if he threw in a Grizzlies game right now. What? Were they Memphis? Have you seen a Memphis game lately? Yeah. I'm just fascinated by the roster. Joke him. He looks good. Dude, he does look good. It seems like every year they're like around this time Memphis starts playing well out of nowhere. Well, it doesn't make any sense. Like, I haven't... I haven't rapped and then Avery Bradley's on the team, which, you know, he's all right.

Starting point is 01:00:23 But as a side... I'm not going to do a Grizzlies. No, but as a side tangent on the Grizzlies, it really hurts my feelings every time you say, like, remember how Memphis started and everyone's like, maybe they just play well together. And like, you knew that it was... it was not going to be together. Like, it was going to fall apart. Because I remember specifically texting you in December being like, I got the Grizzlies tonight. They just play well together. Because what happened like all these idiots in October and November thought the Grizzlies were real. Well, we do this in every sport. And as somebody who did TV for a long time, like, I know how to do the two versions of it. Like, I'm trying to remember. Okay, so I went to the Portland Boston game last Wednesday.

Starting point is 01:01:00 And for whatever reason, Marcus Smart wasn't on Lillard as much and Lillard went off and I was like, okay, that's kind of interesting. I wonder why they did that. I'm sure there's a reason that I don't understand that they did it because they're not morons, but that's what they did. But they go, if I were an analyst and I didn't really want to watch the game, but I'd have to talk about something in the post game, I'd be like, and you got to get Marcus Smart on Lillard more. Because that's that's how it works. So what happens with these records didn't make any sense that Memphis was this good. So I started watching guys talk about Memphis getting off to a good start. And it's the same shit I would have said.

Starting point is 01:01:30 I mean, if I wasn't paying attention, but I'm giving myself paying attention, I'd be like, yeah, right. Like they just everyone knows their roles. Like you don't know what to say because the team isn't supposed to be that good. You know, like they just they just fit and there's something about them. There's like a little edge. So there'll be a baseball team that starts four and one that sucks. And then guys are going to go on TV a week into the baseball season going, you know, the thing about the Orioles is that they just when they came out of spring training just filled with confidence. This middle relief is dynamite. They got they got a lot of different looks they can throw out of you at the pen. And they they're got off to a real start.

Starting point is 01:02:05 They've they've opened some eyes in the least. And then they're 20 and 40. Their catcher hits like six home runs in the first week. Like, wow. Is that the nuggets here? Or is or the nuggets actually legit? No, the nuggets are good. I just can't take them seriously until I just have a hard time with things that are new. Golden State's probably the last time that something that was new, where I go actually think this can work, print the shirts, print the shirts. But I picked them against the nuggets in the year before and then they played the spurs and who could beat the Warriors this year. We'll finish the NBA with this and we'll do some fun stuff.

Starting point is 01:02:36 Okay. I really like, even though they struggled a little bit lately, I like this Thunder team even though playoff P playoff P man. He's been awesome. In the beginning of the year, I'm like up same old Paul George, like, I forget about you wouldn't want to go to war. He's been incredible. I will see what happens to play out. You can't play off P without laughing. No, because it's the fact that he had just missed a shot in the playoffs and then it went to the Gatorade commercial of him hitting a shot. I mean, it could have been edited better. So I like the different ways the Thunder can look. I'm not sure that I'm ever going to trust Westbrook until I see it. And the Rockets are back. They're real and they're back. And

Starting point is 01:03:18 you know, until further notice, I'd still wait a little bit. And I actually look, I still like Utah. They've Mitchell's been insane. Anyone in the East can beat him. I just don't know if Milwaukee will have enough scoring. And I think playing Yanis seven games would just make you better at defending him. If that makes any sense. He's coming up with different stuff. Interesting. Yeah. But I mean, you're not going to grow. You're not going to have like one of your athletic players like grow to be seven feet tall. I don't know how, like, you just get used to seeing him around a lot. Yeah, I just think you would get better at cutting him off. I do think letting him into the lane. I also think Harden is going to be

Starting point is 01:03:54 officiated differently in the playoffs because people are just going to harp on it and be like, all right, so you just, what's the story with this guy? He's going to let him travel for seven games. Like we're just, you can use your right arm and chuck defenders to the ground. So, because I've seen it before with him in the playoffs where there was a Portland series where all of a sudden all the drives and the contact they initiated, he ended up not getting as many free throws and he's losing his mind being like, so wait a minute, we're going to do this for five months and now it matters. Right. You're not blowing the whistle. So, you know, I don't know what Boston beating the piss out of Warriors that's supposed to mean something, but it just doesn't. Hank said they're

Starting point is 01:04:25 back. Hank, they're back. They beat him every time in the last four years. They had their number. Well, that was the thing that, who was it, who was really mad when they didn't get to rant? Was it Jay Crowder who was like, we told, we told to rant our secret and how to be called safe. Oh, damn. Yeah. I think Jay Crowder is going to use this term over 40 low key. One of the angriest dudes in the league. King of cap flock. It's great getting a, I like that. It's a great getting a like a really angry dude on your NBA team. I think every team needs one. Yeah. Well, they've got a couple in Boston, like Terry's mad a lot. They have too many. Jay Crowder, Marcus. It's pissed off all the time. Banes is from like Perth or something.

Starting point is 01:05:07 One angry dude. You're like, that guy's just pissed off all the time. But I think you need that. But see, I also think on a golden state tip here that last night was the beginning of the end for the Marcus cousins fitting in. I saw that. He was so bad in that game. And it's not just because he got mad at Banes. He was awful all night. And then afterwards, a reporter actually said like, Hey, what do you think about your defense? He's like, what do you think? Yeah, which is an awesome comeback when you're a pro athlete. Well, that's like the golden state way. I feel like those guys like Draymond, Kevin Durant. But at least Draymond backs it up. Right. You know, Durant backs it up. Yeah. Clay's just happy. Yeah, I love Clay. They super team

Starting point is 01:05:42 themselves out of being a super team almost again. But I don't think Boogie will get in the way. I just think that the Boogie thing's going to get worse and worse. You know, like if you have, if your DNA is really structured a certain way, it's so hard to just change who you are. Right. And, you know, I was never a big fan of your team. Never Boogie. Yeah. Never. Never. When he, when people thought it was good, I was never even when he went to New Orleans. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Speaking of the Warriors, I want to do this. I know you consider yourself a tough guy. How many guys on the Warriors could you beat up one on one? I love this conversation. I know you do. I mean, you did a podcast like two months ago where you

Starting point is 01:06:22 just talked for 30 minutes about which of your coworkers you could take in a fight. And it was no, it was not, no irony, no sarcasm. It just kept on going. And it was awesome. It was just like everybody that he works with. And here are the reasons why. Yeah. He was like, well, Colick's getting up there in age, but he didn't play ball. And even now the wrestlers, like any time a guy's a wrestler, you never want anything to do with it because you just see enough happen when you're young. Yeah, just so far you're absolutely. Move away. Right. Right. Right. Even though the guy that just lost to Bones Jones because he watched this week, can you imagine him yelling at you? Was it Anthony Smith? Yeah. Can you imagine him yelling at you

Starting point is 01:06:55 at a bar and looking at his face and his forehead and his ears? No, they've got skin diseases too. That I would just from the mats that they get like, I will tweet a video of me saying horrible stuff about myself. So I don't have to fight you. All right. So Steph, I think you take Steph. Steph's pretty strong. Apparently he's really, really good on all the, all the strength conditioning. But I mean, he's got quick hands. Yeah. What about his ankles? Got him there. Yeah. Just some foot stomps. Just finish up a little higher. Yeah. Leg kicks. The foot stop always looks ineffective in a fight, but gosh, that would suck. Yeah. So Steph, draw? Are you, are you going to say? I can't really win here because if I pick half the team, I'm a loser. If I pick zero

Starting point is 01:07:34 for 15. Here's what you do. Yeah. I mean, with Steph, I think you could take him if you got inside like it, because he's got the quick hands. It's pretty obvious. He could tag you up with a few one, two pieces, but if you got in, if you shot on him like a wrestler, got him on the ground, ground pound, full guard. I'd want to get Steph on the ground. Yeah. Full guard. Yeah. Soft hands probably though. Yeah. But he's got quick hands. Yeah. But he would break your, his hand. Yeah. He probably doesn't want to punch you. You got a hard face. Yeah. Remember that old movie? Was it Gladiator? Not the one with Russell Crowe? The other one was a boxer thing. And it was like the guy that played Bobby Knight and he would get punched. He was like this old school boxing guy

Starting point is 01:08:08 and he started headbutting the guy's fists. His fists started breaking. I've never seen anybody who'd do that in a real fight. That sounds fucking awesome because you haven't fought Steph yet. Yeah. Yeah. Clay. Clay just seems to mellow. Yeah. Probably beat him. Yeah. Clay'd be like, I don't really want to do this. You won. Kevin Durant. Tough. I just think you'd have to take one just really mean Instagram comment. It would be, he just goes into a puddle. It would be this just helicopter blade coming at you. And if he caught you with it, it would chop your head off. But if you get inside of those arms, I think you'd like your chances. Yeah. I don't think he's much of a kicker either. So you could just go low. You could use your advantage. Yeah. He didn't

Starting point is 01:08:45 bench 185. Remember that? Yeah. Oh, I remember. Yeah. Imagine how good a player he would have been in Hattie. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. Brady Quinn back there. Yeah. Just feels like such unlimited potential. Why did he even do the bench press? Can't you just say, no, I don't want to do that? Back then you couldn't. There wasn't as much player empowerment. That's too bad. Yeah. Players have their own combines these days. Boogie would kick your ass. Yeah. No question. I don't know though. I'd be so mad after 10 years. Here we go. After 10 years of watching him and everybody telling me I'm wrong when I knew I was right. That wouldn't be more personal. And it's, he's also, I don't want to say it, but I'll say it. I don't think he's maybe a

Starting point is 01:09:22 fake tough guy. No, I'm not. Well, I don't know how. But he's so huge. Who's he ever fought? Right. I disavowed. Okay. I disavowed. I just threw it out there. I threw it out there. I think Boogie could take everybody in this room at once. Throw him on and kick your ass. No doubt. Absolutely. Yeah. Especially if you're a Michigan State undergrads. I would bet money on him leading up to it. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. It wouldn't be me throwing it. It'd be like a minus 1,000. Yeah. What about Andrew Bogut? Killed. Murdered. He would murder you? Yeah. Australians, you don't want anything to do with those guys. That's true. They drink Jagermeister in the morning. They kitesurf. Yeah. And then they still like bartend. I'm just thinking of all the Australians

Starting point is 01:09:58 I met at Martha's venue in the summer that waited tables, but seems like a pretty good sample size. There you go. You got it. You got it. It's everyone I've ever met. Okay. So you could be, I'm going to give you two and a half out of five. We don't know about Boogie. We have the starters. Yeah. I don't think Clay would care. Clay would be like, dude, I'm just going to tap out. Is that cool? Yeah. And then we're like, all right. We're going to rip the bong. Steph would, you know, Steph, the thing is, is what if Steph beats me, then the rest of the team would be like, I don't even need to fight you, dude. I don't think Steph would beat you. I think you could use your dialing. I think you guys will overrate me a little bit. No, I don't think so. You just,

Starting point is 01:10:28 no, the other thing for people who are listening right now, when this conversation started, Resil started taking his shirt off. He's now just in a t-shirt and he's going to take that off in a second too. Yeah. We're five minutes away. It's, it's hot in here. Yeah, it is getting hot in here. We're not going to get down to the bench. I'll follow McKee. Oh yeah, go. Let's go. Go down the bench. Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr. He's smarter than you. He's back is a problem. Yeah. We'd have to find a new fight. Yeah. That wouldn't be a plot twist. He's got a gun. Am I on Instagram video or is Instagram filming it? Cause I'll just steal the gun from him. I think you could beat up Steve Kerr even if he had a gun. Yes. That's how much

Starting point is 01:11:06 I believe in you. Yes. It depends on his distance because I saw that in skyscraper with a rock. He's not a good shooter anymore though. All right. We got anything else? No, that's about it. Thank you for stopping by. I mean, you feel, you feel good about this? I mean, you feel, I don't think it's the best one I've ever done. Are you fighting? I agreed. What shadows are you fighting right now? Let's talk about the screen running real quick. Let's wrap up with that. How is it going? It's really hard and it's not just hard to sit and write. Like that part, I know I can do. Okay. So that was the first year of this, not even a year, but I'm like, trying to close. I'm like, yeah, dude, it isn't even a year yet. We have one thing that's really

Starting point is 01:11:40 close as far as taking it out. And for months, we're waiting on one person to sign one thing. And I get daily updates on how bad it's going. And it's one person just says, yes, I agree to this part of it. And we're not trying to do anything. We're basically telling everybody like, Hey, you can have 0% of nothing, or you can have the percentage of what this is. Because if you don't want to do this, then I'm just going to do something else. So that's something that once that happens, once that signature happens, and then I can tell everybody what it is. And I've already written the show. And it's already based on something. It's a show. It's not a movie show. Yeah. Whoa. Okay. So we're talking Netflix? Are you listening to that? Hulu? Everybody's

Starting point is 01:12:24 going to want it. Spike? Spike TV? You guys have some minutes. There are dragons in it. I know Don Taffer. We don't know yet. Okay. You can write in a dragon. Yeah. You don't start season one with dragons. White walkers. Do you know anything about writing? Direwolves? Interesting. I don't actually. I can't wait for the Game of Thrones thing though. That just feels like I'm on it. The writing part of it, you just, you kind of throw a bunch of lines out. All right, you threw a bunch of different things. So I've thrown a bunch of different things out there. I've met with two different people about being a staff writer. One guy, I'm convinced, had no interest in having me work on the staff. He only wanted to come on the podcast,

Starting point is 01:13:02 which was amazing. That is awesome. So like I sat there, I went in. Is that Adam McKay? No, it wasn't Adam McKay. Can we record our interview? McKay couldn't be nicer, by the way, to everybody. So McKay came on the podcast because I wanted to have Adam McKay on. It wasn't because Adam McKay was trying to, like if Adam McKay wanted to have me on to do something, I would do whatever, because he's just a great guy. But there's just, you know what the best part, to finish, like to have that doubt in your head, we're like, can I really do this? I've sent enough stuff to enough people that do it for a living or in the industry and have done it for a lot of years that go, it's just a matter of time for you. Like you can do this and the stuff

Starting point is 01:13:35 that you're writing is really good. So good for you. So that's awesome. I'm happy with that right now. We have a lot of execs out there that listen to the show. So get back and touch it, Ryan, and sign that one dotted line. Yeah, but you proved like, man, that was a big leap. Like we joke about it. You had a very successful career going and you're like, you know what, I'm going to take a sharp right turn here. But I still watch the same amount of hoops. I still talk to as many people as I can talk to. And they're just days where I get up and go, I'm not leaving the house until I get a couple of scenes down here. And the days where it doesn't work, it sucks. And then the days where it doesn't, like anybody that's ever written anything,

Starting point is 01:14:08 you write some scenes, you think you have a good idea, you like a couple of lines. And then if it's an hour drama, you're trying to get 60 something pages out of it. And then you're like page 45, you're like, this is the worst fucking show anyone has ever created that sucks. And then you're like, just finish it. And then you put it in order. And then you're kind of like, wait a minute, this might be something you go to bed, you wake up the next day and go, wait a minute, like, I actually do think I have something. Let me send it to somebody who I trust who's done it. And then you wait for their feedback. And they send you an email and go, this is awesome. And it's not as good as the feeling will be when I actually have somebody go, I want to make this

Starting point is 01:14:39 show or we want to hire you to work on the show because of the scripts that you wrote, like, I eventually believe that that will happen. So that's a different part of this where I'll be like, man, I did it. I don't feel like I've done anything. I've just only confirmed that I thought I could do it. Right. That's all. You need it. Are you good at cliffhangers? I need some cliffhangers. I did watch cliffhanger the other day. Oh, great. That's a great movie. Yeah. There was a rumor that he got his hand cut off when he was making it. I guess that turned out not to be true. Because he made like five more Rocky movies. If there's anybody though, they could get their hand cut off and have it attached back without us knowing. Slice.

Starting point is 01:15:12 Slice. Stop. Absolutely. I'm really got the HGH. We're rooting for you, not because you're our friend, but because we want you to make it so that someday you'll make boner dogs for us. The show, not the movie. We've already done the movie. Yeah, I. Do you know what boner dogs is? You're in for boner dogs. No, I remember. I mean, how can I forget? Yeah. The dog has a boner. Yeah, he's in the snow. No, I'm just trying to remember. What was the Michael Scott one where he was like? Wait a minute. There's there's a movie that he pitches in pitches in like two seconds. Michael Scott. Oh, no, no, no, no threat level midnight. There's another one. Yeah. Throwaway line. Yeah. And by the way, I guess you found the

Starting point is 01:15:51 script broke in and then share it with everybody else. Oh, was it Pam? That's true. That's true. That was so great when Liz invented that Dwight Rainn Wilson. When you brought that up to him on get up, he was like, this guy's got problems. Yeah. Yeah. He was. Guess what, though, guys, went viral. It did. It did. The social engagement was off the charts. But that's what happens with Netflix. It's like none of us process things the way we used to. We were like, I can't wait to see what happens next week. Yeah. So, you know, the old model was the longest relationship. And then Netflix is having that person live with you and you go, oh, I'm watching three episodes of Pam in a row. She sucks. Yeah. All we needed was an incel like you to figure it out. Yeah, right. Like

Starting point is 01:16:31 mad men, when you watch it, when you binge it, you go, I don't like the way they're talking to these women. Yeah. When you watch it every week, it becomes problematic. Roger Sterling is amazing. Yeah. Man's man. Yeah. Can't wait to see who Don Draper is going to harass next week. Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right, Racille, thank you for stopping by. All right, thanks guys. Appreciate it. Good luck to you. Best of luck to you. Oh, BOL. BOL. That's what it means something. Try not to get too soft. We'll come out to LA though soon. Sounds good. That interview with Ryan Racille was brought to you by movement watches and sunglasses. It's time to move on to our all time favorite underdog success story. MVMT, aka movement watches founded on the belief that styles should not break

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Starting point is 01:19:17 thanks to our friend Ryan Rosillo and everyone for listening to Chonk. Let's do, let's start out with a new segment. New segment of Learn, Hank. That fucking sucks every day. Do you want me to change it? No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't care. You're not long for this, so it's fine. All right, what are we calling this? Who cares? Did you see how Donald Trump called Tim Cook Apple? Yes. Let's just go Hank, Hank Stoolscenes. Yeah, Hank Stoolscenes. I love that. That was such a power move to Tim Apple. It's like Danzig. Yeah, you remember back like Jeff Amazon. Back in the 70s and 80s, it seems like a lot more bands used to just like everybody in the band would take on the last name of the name of the band. Yeah, and you're like, are they brothers? Yeah. What's

Starting point is 01:20:00 the remote? We're all brothers. Yeah, shit. Fuck. All right, let's get it. Who cares? What are we calling this? Who cares is LSU? Yeah, who cares? LSU. Who cares is LSU, and we're biased and we love LSU. I think the name of the segment should just be who cares. It's Louisiana. Yeah, or whenever somebody fucks up a little bit in Louisiana, it's like, who cares? It's Louisiana. Also, alternate, who cares? It's a wiretap and the NCAA never falls up on these. So there was a wiretap on LSU's head coach, basketball coach, so I'm going to make that very clear, very, very clear. LSU head coach, Will Wade, and essentially, he made insinuations that he was, you know, he actually said it was a fucking hell of a fucking offer talking about a recruit. So who cares? Who cares? It's

Starting point is 01:20:48 Louisiana. It's also, like I said, like you want to do it, who cares real quick? What are you, what are you saying? You couldn't have been talking about offering a scholarship. Right. That's true. He made a hell of a fucking scholarship offer, especially for a kid who's going to be a two or three year kid. That's just smart practice right there. He's just making a good offer. A kid? Yeah. Making an offer that he can't refuse. Listen, it's widely accepted in Louisiana that every single leader is going to be removed from office in handcuffs. And that goes all the way from governor, all the way to basketball coach at LSU. Like, that's just how you move on from a job. You don't like transfer jobs in Louisiana. You get arrested

Starting point is 01:21:22 and then you come back and you redeem yourself later. Like, I don't see what the big deal is here. I think that it's pretty much par for the course. And like, who cares? LSU is going to be decent at basketball this year and they're not going to win the national championship. Yeah. So I think you should only get punished for winning or you should only get punished for cheating if you win the national championship. He said the problem was that I know why he didn't take it now. It was fucking tilted toward the family a little bit and then goes on to say it was a fucking hell of a fucking offer. There's a lot of redacted stuff. I wonder if any of it is a $50 gift card to Barstool. That's, I mean, that's a fucking hell of an offer.

Starting point is 01:21:58 Fucking hell of an offer. I gave this kid a car stick. He was eating out of the palm of my hand. But the reason why I say who cares is a wiretap. I mean, remember Sean Miller was going to lose his job? Yeah. Like, what happened there? What's Arizona? We just forgot about that. Arizona is just like hot Louisiana. You want to play another remember, like, we just forgot about it? Remember Dwight Howard? You just haven't played this year? You just forgot about it? Oh, fuck, really? Remember? Dwight Howard, really? Like, what? Huh? Didn't know that. Like, what's, like, we're just, I love these stories that just go away. I mean, Robert Kraft probably be the same way. In like six months, we'll be like, Hey, remember when Robert Kraft got a hand job? Huh? I hear that

Starting point is 01:22:36 he's going to beat the case. Ooh, new story came out today. Really? Yeah, I said that. How's he going to do it? Penis spring with his hand. Penis spring. He's going to be getting massaged. Is he going to pay somebody else to beat it for him? 48 dollars. Okay, we have a good visual for us ready for this. Martin Screlly, who unfortunately was a guest on this show at one point. Yeah, some of us didn't want Martin Screlly to be a guest. Well, you know what, he was a good interview. We told him he was a scumbag to his face. We got numbers. Yeah. So Martin Screlly, who is in jail, and we were supposed to be in a band with Martin Screlly. Screlly said he has someone said Screlly has made prison friends, including

Starting point is 01:23:17 Krispy and D block for reputational reasons. They persuaded him to turn down a gig playing guitar in a prison band because the other members were locked up for child molestation. All right. First of all, I'm calling bullshit on this entire story. Why? Because what were the names? D block and Chris. Okay. D block and Krispy are the exact names of people in jail that Martin Screlly would make up to say like, Hey, I know these guys in jail. Yeah, he's like Michael Scott's prison, Mike's T block is the fakest jail name ever, ever, ever. D block and Krispy. But what's good is he did not join the band with people charged with child molestation, because then we by association would be in a band. Yeah, people would like his side project would

Starting point is 01:24:05 just be like, pardon my take, but with child molesters. Do you think this, this is like fall out from R Kelly and Michael Jackson? They're like, Hey, man, don't do that. The Me Too movement has finally hit jail. Yeah, like, no, the music, the music against like the music movement, the music culture being like no more child molesters. I hope so. I hope that prison starts to adopt the same policies that we have on the outside. It'd be nice. It would be nice. Hey, man, don't like somebody who wants to join a band with R Kelly and jail and they're like, No, man, it's problematic. You can't be with R Kelly. Like, first of all, he's the worst person ever. But that interview he did where he just said out loud, like, it's not like I, you know,

Starting point is 01:24:43 kidnapped someone and put him in my basement and then didn't let him go to the bathroom and then videotape them and then didn't let them go out ever and then made him listen to all my music. It's not like I did that. Bro, that was very, very specific. He was giving up a lot of different details. Yeah. Like he was like, it's not like I had a house in Florida that I also did this at. We were just talking about if you think that people can still watch Space Jam. Like, what are you talking about R Kelly? Yeah, that guy sucks. So today is about today is a somber day on part of my take. Oh wait, PFT. Yeah. Seekie question promo code take $10 off if you could put in take at Seekie. PFT is today a somber day. Today is a very somber day on part of my take because it is

Starting point is 01:25:27 Hank's very last day as producer for us. So he's moving on to bigger and better things, producing stool scenes full time, full time. And we just want to say, Hank, thank you very much for all that you've done for the show. We love you. We love you. We're gonna get you something. I got you a card. Do you want to open it? We got you a few things. We got you a few things. Here you go. Hank, some balloons. We know that you love balloons. Yep. There you go. Now hold on to those for the rest of the show, please. Not in front of the camera, Hank. Hank. Hank, take the card. Take the card, Hank. Read the card and then do some helium. You do the FAQs with helium. Hank, can you hold the balloons in your other hand so they're not blocking the camera?

Starting point is 01:26:07 Okay, read the card. Dear Hank. Hank, move the balloons. I'm very excited to watch the new episode of Stool Scenes that comes out on Barstool Sports at 4.30 PM. We didn't write that. We didn't write that. We did not write that. Read it. Read the real thing. You can tell that this isn't it because Hank can't actually read it. We know that your boss asked you to do this and you said yes, it wasn't really your choice. No, that's not what happened. Read it. Also, it says don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened. And also smile because we now have a producer that can read. Love, big cat. Good luck, you fucking traitor. B word. Love, PFT. Yeah. So also, I wasn't gonna do this. It's also a dog. I would have appreciated, you know, a cat. I thought you guys would have been.

Starting point is 01:26:49 Well, I figured that dog looks like, if you get a shot of that dog, it looks like it needs a car stick to get that ball out. So I thought that was kind of cute. That is cute. But I didn't appreciate the way that you started it and you're going to go off and be LeBron's little B word. Yeah. And I'm wearing a team Hank shirt right now, but I'm not team Hank anymore. So I'm gonna burn it. Yeah, we're team Bubby. Bubby's gonna be the new producer. Hank actually is still gonna produce, but he is doing stool scenes now. Hey, those are real helium. So please make sure you do FAQs with them. So maybe pop one right now. Get it ready. Let's finish up the segments before we get to the FAQs. I think Liam should probably do it. Both of you can. Both of you inhale helium

Starting point is 01:27:25 to make us laugh. Thank you. Oh, you're actually going to burn it. Jesus. PFT is lighting his shirt on fire. Dude, there's helium in the room. This is how the Hindenburg happened. I'm like a monk. I'm letting my shirt on fire while I'm wearing it. Okay. All right. So it's getting really smoky in here. The shirt is now on fire and he's gonna and it's actually a fire. It's a problem. Yep. It's a problem. We knew this was going to happen. Okay, this is a problem. There's actually a fire. Okay. Now we turned it out and it's smoky as fuck in here. You knew that was going to happen. I've seen many controlled fires. We actually No, we're fine. We're fine. People have smoked in here. Okay, so let's just go. You know what?

Starting point is 01:28:11 Let's we'll do one last. It smells like a cookout in here. We'll do one last segment. Smells fire. Give me a balloon. I'm going to miss you guys. All right, let's do it. Let's do one last segment before FAQs. Wait, does this mean I actually don't have to produce anymore? Because All right, Hank, I wouldn't hate that. Give me one of these balloons. Yeah, I'm gonna need one too. Well, those are my balloons. Hey, hey. All right. Last up before we get to FAQs, it's called We Read a Headline. I actually have two headlines, PFT. The first headline is Bears Signed Bluet to Help Kicking Woes. And that's a headline. Wait, your kicker, what's his name? Why the fuck did we do this? Like, that's the dumbest thing ever. What's his name?

Starting point is 01:28:50 Bluet. You can't sign a guy named Bluet. But did he get his name like the Tim Apple thing, where he's just famous for blowing it? So you're just like, okay, I remember he was at Pittsburgh, right? Yeah. Yeah, quality. Quality kicker. Okay, the other headline is from the Chicago Tribune, LeBron James, who has been swept out of the NBA finals twice, passes Michael Jordan for fourth on career scoring lists. Great headline. It's just a headline. It's just a headline. All right, Hank, let's do it. FAQs. What happens if every NFL team goes eight and eight? I think it's a bunch of coin flips, right? Yeah, Fisher becomes president. This is so stupid. We had a fucking fire in here. Now we're sucking on Helium.

Starting point is 01:29:34 This show has gotten off the rails. We miss football. How often do you four hang out outside of doing the actual podcast and going to games, watching games together specifically for the podcast? All the time. We're best friends and we actually live together. Well, actually, Bubbies are our only friend now. Me, Bubbie and Hank. I love doing Helium because I feel like in the back of your head, you're doing a fake voice, but you're not. But you're not, yeah. Right. Wait, I'm going to do an Australian accent. Okay, do it. I'll do the who's the bad guy. This is so fucking stupid. Got a whoa. Would the person who proof read Hitler's speeches be a grammar Nazi? Crikey, that's a great point. It's a very excellent point indeed. I submit to you

Starting point is 01:30:16 that he would indeed be a grammar Nazi. Who's the bad guy? All right, anymore. Most intimidating guest to interview. Cream up, Georgia bar. Probably. I don't know. Oh, PFT just sucked down the rest of his balloon. Bro, are you ready to go fish show? I would say that I would lean towards quarter L Patterson because of his chain that was just banging around everywhere. I would was definitely not as cool as that guy. Also the time that I asked Stacy King if Scotty Pippen had a big dick. That's it. That's it. These are facts. All right. That's our show. Thanks everyone. Thanks to Hank for three wonderful years. It's the gray Hank PFT. Why don't you suck on the last of that for the love you guys and we'll see everyone on Monday. Love you guys. Love you guys.

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