Pardon My Take - Saquon Barkley, Lane Johnson And Cam Jurgens, Micah Parsons vs The Cowboys + Mt Rushmore Of Things That Start With Q

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

Micah Parsons and Jerry Jones are beefing and we break down where he may end up. We talk Training Camp, viral Caleb videos. The Speedway disaster for MLB, Dildo throwing in the WNBA and more (00:00:00-00:42:47). Who's back of the week including the Miami Marlins and Luka signs his new deal (00:42:47-00:59:59). Mt Rushmore of words that start with Q (00:59:59-01:25:15). Saquon Barkley joins the show to talk about his incredible season, leaving the Giants, Penn State, is the running back position and ons more (01:25:15-01:49:10). Lane Johnson and Cam Jurgens join to talk football, tush push, O-Line play, Nebraska and more (01:49:10-02:14:30). We finish with lottery ball numbers (02:14:30-02:18:00).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we are back in studio and we have two great interviews. We've got Saquon Barkley, the best running back in the league. And then we have our good friend Lane Johnson with Cam Juergens talking a little O-line with the boys. We're going to recap everything from this weekend, including Micah Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys being at a very bad spot. We have who's back of the week. We have the Mount Rushmore of words that start with Q. And we're ready to kick off the week.

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and PFT I'm starting to think Michael Parsons and the Cowboys do not like each other. That's interesting. That's interesting because all the talk in the world was about scary Terry on Thursday and we told people keep your eye on the ball. Michael Parsons. It was quite a statement. Quite a state was it the notes app? Was it? Well, there was the notes app, which is a dark mode, which I appreciate. I feel like that's the, that's the more impactful way to make a statement on notes. What I didn't appreciate is he didn't cut up the notes app correctly. So you would like read one and then you would go to the next slide and you start halfway through what you just read.

Don't like to do the extra reading. Just a little note for Micah Parsons for future notes apps. Let's just, let's clean that up. Let's clean that part up. I don't really mind that because I get so distracted when I'm reading a notes app that's in four different panels that by the time I get to the second panel, it's helpful to reread what I just read

at the end of the first one. But yeah, you could tell that he put that out there too. That was his notes app, not a Notes app that was texted to an agent who then did the very valuable work of copying and pasting and cropping the corners out of the Notes app. No, it was straight from his phone. You can see it.

It was right on there. So it wasn't as far as declaring himself independent from the Dallas Cowboys. But he just said, I no longer want to be a part of the organization. I want to trade. You kind of fucked me over because we talked. That was not a negotiation.

Then you won't speak to my agent. Which is apparently a Jerry Jones special. Because I saw there was also going viral the time that he, Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells basically took Tony Romo into a closet and basically said, this is the deal we want you to sign. And he was just like, well, I'm not signing it and my agent isn't here. So Jerry Jones likes to do this little wheeling and dealing, talking to you. The story goes that

he sat with Micah Parsons talking about leadership in the off season. Then they started talking numbers and then basically they called up his agent was like, Hey, we got the deal done. And his agent's like, what are you talking about? I haven't talked to you about any of this yeah kind of scummy behavior Micah Parsons it feels and there was bad body language, too They were not happy with each other on the sideline because he's holding in mm-hmm had his back to Stephen Jones Glory hold in Jerry Jones is doing weird Jerry Jones Pressers where he the one I noted was he said when

I grew up I knew when mama wouldn't let me do something going to daddy and daddy letting me do it then going back in and saying to mama daddy said I could do it that old mama daddy stuff we got here doing that by nature we're not going to do that. That's that's really weird because I think in this analogy. He's referring to his son Yeah as mommy also I that's such a crazy quote I was like I had to double-check and be like is this is is this made up? But it was a real reporter had reported that no, I think he I think he turned Steven into mommy Yeah that in that equation

So I'm not doing the mommy daddy stuff not to the mommy daddy So refuse and then floreos all over it because this is a wet dream for him, of course And so he he came up with an idea. You want hear a dream. That's gonna piss you off. Okay? Okay, this is Florio's idea. He's not wrong But it's gonna piss you off for a player in the last year of his contract his obligation ends with the final game of the regular season Which means that he can walk out at the start of the postseason or at any turn the playoffs with no contractual consequence I like the or you're saying that a player in this situation in the final year of their contract start of the postseason or at any point during the playoffs with no contractual consequence. I liked it. Florio is saying that a player in this situation in the final year of their contract would

be within their rights at the start of the season to say, I'm going to play, I'm going to play out my contract, but if we make the playoffs, I'm not going to play in any playoffs. This double fan fiction because it has the fan fiction of Dallas Cowboys making the playoffs. Yep. And then the fan fiction of Michael Parsons walking out on a playoff team. So I was thinking about this. I think the only reason why Michael Parsons would not come out and say that is because he knows that everybody's response would be like, what do you mean in the playoffs? Yeah. Which is a deterrent for him. Right. But yeah, that's a, it's, it's taking the college argument of sitting out bowl season,

moving it to the NFL. I like that. And then Florida stern it up a little bit. He is. I like that. Also Jerry Jones is, uh, he, he just keeps taking shots. Like I said, we, we talked about this like a month ago that he is in that senile old phase where he's just saying shit and you're like, I really wish you wouldn't say that Thanksgiving table uncle shit, uh, because he was asked about if it bothered him reading Mike Parsons statement and he said, not a bit. I can't tell you how many hundreds of times I've heard that negotiation. uh, because he was asked about if it bothered him reading Mike Parsons statement. And he said, not a bit. I can't tell you how many hundreds of times I've heard that negotiation. And then, uh, when he was asked about fans yelling for him to sign Parsons on the sidelines, he said it was just so much louder walking off the field last year with CD lamb. Yeah.

So he's just taking a dig at it and Micah right there for no reason. Uh, and meanwhile, it's fun. This is fun. Meanwhile CD lamb and He said something on Twitter Trayvon digs overshown And they'll have his back another guy. They changed their their profile pictures to Micah Parsons Okay And then Des Brian is also weighing in because Des Brian went through a weird contract negotiation with Jerry Jones Where Jay-Z got involved and Jerry claimed that Jay-Z was not returning his calls And then they eventually got the the deal done on a cocktail napkin

Mm-hmm, which also presents another problem because one it's not a contract to Jay-Z was never actually a certified agent Yes for the NFL so that it brings up the question Can you just declare yourself independent from an NFL team? This is what Florio would love. Can we do that? Is that a thing? He absolutely thinks you can. You can just be like, I am no longer a Cowboy. He wants to get rid of the draft.

Yeah, he's just like, I'm not playing for the Cowboys. So I mean, if Jerry is in fact like trying to negotiate directly with players and not negotiating with their agents, there might be a loophole in there. I don't know. I'm not a player. Yeah. Also, they should just trade them because the Cowboys are not a Super Bowl team right now. And if you don't want to pay them, trade them. He is guaranteed to, yeah, two first rounders. Yeah, it's like guarantee. And the Khalil Mack was a good trade for the Bears.

They just, the timeline of Mitch did not work out how they thought it would. That would be a mistake if, well, I don't know. I would trade him in a second. Any team should trade him for two first drives. Is there going to be a guy in the next two drafts that's going to be better than Mike Parsons? I don't think so. I don't know. He's got 12 sacks in his first four seasons. He's a monster. I'm looking, I'm trying to figure out who the Raiders got with those Khalil Mack picks. They got... No, that's really bad.

Let's see. Who did the Raiders get? No one good Mac picks. They got. No, it was really bad. Let's see, who did the Raiders get here? No one good. I think it was Leatherwood or whatever. So it was a lose-lose trade kind of. No, well, no. Mac was good for the Bear. It was not a, yeah, the Bear's trading for Khalil Mac

was not, Khalil Mac was not the problem for that. It was that you traded for him being like, Mitch is going to progress and get better and better and better. When Mitch didn and get better and better and better. When Mitch didn't get better and better and better, you then were out of picks to maneuver out of that. It's like the Clio Mac part of it was correct. Like he was a monster.

He was good, but he became like a luxury player, which is like... Well, yeah, because the quarterback didn't come along. You were like, hey, we gotta... The thought process behind it was correct. It's just you need the quarterback on a rookie contract to get better as he gets to second third fourth year The bills should give a call the bills should give him a call Patriots

Patriots you give boys. What are the odds? It's Cowboys minus three three you meant 12 sacks last year Patriots on you had 12 sacks in his first four seasons. Eagles plus a thousand. Who? Micah Parson? Yeah. No. Every year. Oh, every year. Yeah. Every year. He's four years into his career. Every single one of his first four years, he has at least 12 sacks. He has at least 12. Which is pretty fucking impressive. Yeah. I think that's the first player to do that since Reggie White. Yeah. He has 52 and a half sacks through four seasons. Yeah. I mean, well, Max is trying

to get them. Max is trying to trade a person in our stool as well. You know, that was, that was a tough one. You guys see the tweet? What did Max do? I wanted to- Max said, how, hold on, let's pull it up. Don't, don't tell us what it is. It's, this was- We're not doing this again this week. What do you mean? This is, you, you were trying to negotiate a deal on Friday afternoon. I'll tell you the exact tweet. I'm going to pull it up because I want Max to try. I will pull it up. I will pull it up. I'm going to pull it up. Here it comes. This is from Maxwell Delante on August 1st. Is there any possible way for us to make a person's trade work? A person's trade. Yeah. He's trying to trade people trade people human and a are close to each other on the key

I thought I was trying to trade someone at Barstool. There's an s in between max It's still there and the w It's still that it's still close. I didn't say was Have you ever participated in human trafficking? I have not I wanted Mike Mike Parsons 10 to 1 on the DraftKings Sportsbook. Every team should want Mike. This is a no brainer. He's 26 years old. The Eagles Eagles have the next best odds. 10 to 1 DraftKings Sportsbook. I offered Mike Parsons free ice cream for life in the DMS. If he signs with the Bears, that's all.

Everyone do your part. Any response? No. Red. Red put it I'd rather be on the bears, but he does follow me Yeah, I mean he's an unbelievable player and like I said if you're if you're gonna it's not like in baseball where you you know So guys will get traded for a one-year rental then they'll go sign somewhere else if Michael Parsons gets traded He's gonna sign a deal the next day Is it the day that he shows up to his new team if it actually happens where Michael Parsons just never plays for the Cowboys again, if he just says I'm done with the Cowboys and I mean it, I will not play another down of football for you. Are we going to, is there going to be like an uprising against Jerry Jones? Is this like the bridge too far? Cause Cowboys fans have dealt with a lot of shit from Jerry. Oh no Cowboys fans deserve to be

mad at Jerry Jones. Yeah. Cause he is losing it. So if a star player sits out, it's gonna be he's also we're gonna up rise against the owner I'm saying in this case with Michael Parsons because there's been a lot of stuff that's happened that Cowboys fans are not happy with and if the star player sits out because the owner screwed up the negotiations by Inserting himself and then trying to take a fake deal to get it signed. That seems like it's a problem. And it's also, this is what the Cowboys do, like good organizations get their good players signed before it becomes a problem. Jerry Jones feels like every player, every big player, he has a problem and then he gets it figured out. And this all, we should, we should also put a disclaimer on this, similar to last year, this could all be Jerry Jones trying to steal the headlines week one,

and Micah Parsons gets a massive deal right before. On Sunday morning. No, it'll be Thursday night, kickoff. The first game of the season, like where they agree, hey Micah, come back to camp, we'll get it figured out, wink wink, we'll sign you all your numbers, and then we can announce it as you're walking in to the link and basically try to steal banner night from the Eagles. That could absolutely be on the table. Anything could be on the table.

Jerry. Yeah. You know that that's a Jerry Jones move. I mean he did that last year. It wasn't, didn't really have the same pop when it was Dak coming out of the tunnel in Cleveland, but he thought it was. He did think it was. Max, do you want them? Everyone's. I want them. No, no one should be saying no to Mike. The other thing is you keep talking about this, not playing a year thing. He's done it before. True. He didn't play. He didn't. He sat out his COVID year, his whole COVID year. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So Cowboys still favored then Eagles, Patriots, chargers, all pretty much the same odds. Yeah. it's I mean again

It's I know the two first rounds seemed like a lot, but Micah Parsons is really fucking good at football Yeah, I just don't think that max I as much as I would want you to be happy with having Micah Parsons on your team I don't I don't see Jerry training it inside the division. Well, it's also like yeah, it makes no sense There's no way he would do that, but it it you know It's interesting that we have the that we have the best up the next best It is interesting it is I don't know why we would have the next best odds, but I think howie I think the reason is maybe that how and my and my howie is a wild motherfucker

He loves the Eagles my Micah just loves the Eagles I think if he had the choice he would want to go to the Eagles he grew up a bird span He grew up in the area and he also, and he has those clips every single year during he does, he live streams the drafts and the Eagles always get good picks and he's like, how the fuck are they doing this again? He is always sucking off the Eagles. Okay. Uh, so that's, yeah, I mean, that was a big story for the weekend. Do we have any update on Terry? I'm no longer worried about Terry. Oh.

Because I saw a 10-second clip of him going up to Josh Harris, shaking his hand. I did see that as well. Hugging Jaden's mom. And then that's all I need to see. Business, as James Cook is saying, just business. OK. It's a negotiating tactic. I don't think that Terry actually wants to get traded.

I think that the trade request, that's just the next thing that you do in this type of negotiation. First, you try the holdout. Then you try the hold in. Then you request a trade. Again, request, not demand a trade. Very politely asking for a trade. If you're not a.

Please, sir, can I have a trade? Listen, if it's not too much trouble, would it be OK with you if you were to allow me to be traded? And then they're like, ah, I you know what I'm pretty busy right now. We can't do it. Okay. No worries. No worries What if it was a respect thing though? What if it was like, you know, we tried I always respect you. Thank you Oh, this is Daniels James mom, whatever Oh, I don't think they look very happy to say business is business So you're saying Terry's basically sending an email being like hey, I know you've had a busy week But if you could quickly just look at this contract and sign off on it.

He's sending it. And if there's any issues, I don't want to be a bother whatsoever. Sign Terry McLaurin. No worries. But yeah. And then he used the word jest like five times. What if it was 34 millions? Haha.

I was wondering if just maybe you could take a look at the contract and maybe you could add two or three million per year. Just that. Yeah. If not, it's no big deal. Just a little extra Hey, no worries. No worries if you can't do it. Yeah Arts you're not worried. I'm not a handshake. I'm no longer because they very well could be him saying hey, dude It's it's no, you know, nothing personal here loved being a commander, but it's not gonna happen No, I mean if you know anything about Josh Josh Harris's history of handshakes on camera. This was a handshake that he meant. Did you see the tweet?

That was very funny. I don't think this is how it works but a Twitter account Terry Franconia said the best thing Paul George has done for Philadelphia is take 55 million from Josh Harris this upcoming year So you can't give it to Terry McLaurin. I thought that was pretty funny, and I don't know if that's how it works. I think it's exactly how it works. Yeah, like I read a couple of replies, and people were like, that's not how it works.

I'm like, I don't really know how it works, but it seems like it could work that way. It might be how it works. That would be catastrophic for you, PFT, because you do like making fun of Paul George, and if that was... I wouldn't say I like making fun of Paul George. He's was. I wouldn't say like making fun of Paul George. He's a podcaster, he's a colleague.

Respect. He's a brother in arms. But if that was, what if Josh Harris did it, like he wasn't able to sign him and he was like it's cause of Paul George. It's really, if you want to trace it back, it's Ben Simmons. Yeah, but Paul George is the one he just paid.

Yeah. And well also I guess I guess the MB did you guys see the not to get a tangent here? But there was a report that John Joel's embeds knee in league league circles is way worse than people are are saying publicly. You think that's true? I think that's true. I do trust league circles. League circles are saying that that that it is a big problem. What is a league circle is that?

Agents friend I think it's just a group text. Yeah, it's group text. We're still yeah, we're still a thumbs up I think the knees worse. Did you see that max? He was at the Phil's game, but did you see the league circles? He looked good. He looked good on the sideline of the Phillies game Was he standing or was he in was he in a handicap seat? No, he was on the field. Oh, OK. Was he in the cart? He was not in a cart, no.

OK. Was he leaning on anyone? I think he was. The picture that I saw, I do think he was leaning against the dugout. Oh, no. Can't stand upright. Let's take a look.

Let's take a look here. Can't stand upright. Did you guys see that we're going real tangent? Did you guys see that there was a tweet that went viral maybe a month or two ago that was in the Cold War Russian spot? Oh, yeah. He's not standing on his own.

He's taking all of his body weight off. He's leaning. That's a heavy lean. Max, that's nothing on his knee. But he's not moving his right arm. Does he still have the palsy he's not moving his right arm. Does he still have the palsy? He is moving his right arm. Just a little bit, not nearly as much as left.

That's aura. You don't know anything about that. That's aura. The treat I saw was in the Cold War, Russia was able to figure out who was like an American spy or just an American because they would lean on things. And it got in my head and I realized that I lean on everything. Wait, is that true? Yeah, it's like a cultural thing that Americans lean on things. Because we're lazy? Yeah. And I realized very quickly, like I started checking myself after I read that. I was like, dude, I fucking lean all the time. Yeah. I never,

you'll never catch me just standing. Yeah. Why would you? Russians don't do it. I guess a lot of other car I mean, I know Asians this Asian squat yeah Asians. Yeah, they do squat, but yeah, I guess it's a lazy American thing We just like to lean on shit Irish, too Yeah, just cuz they're drunk and be real American real American well no that's his knee Can't did you see the end of the clip he wasn't leaning he was like gingerly turning around he's falling over He lost his balance um alright. Well. Let's get back to football. Would you guys like to talk about any other football? Maybe some clips that went around these like stupid drills where they're throwing it in nets and stuff

I was actually telling Hank about this earlier because we've reached a point in the offseason where people are just they're hunting to find The very worst Caleb Williams clip correct Get from that practice knowing that it's guaranteed to do numbers on Numbi And you know what it will and I love all yeah, because they're funny I don't think that has any bearing on whether or not this one went good this year. This one's AI I think he's gonna be good this year, but hey, I love watching these videos AI that looks AI to me is storms away Look it's not a great clip. I did see another one that

got like no retweets of him actually nailing the drills. Also, I last night checked receivers have hands, so all those would probably be caught. I mean, football is back, but like who cares? It's a practice drill. There was another one at Soldier Field today. It's... That's why we say six out of ten. Look, you gotta hit in the holes. The one win I did get out of this, though, was our good friend Ryan Whitney, who has told us because of our stance with Connor McDavid,

he's going to be rooting against us all the time. So he sent me the clip, and he said, sick, he looks awesome being obviously facetious. And I said, that's AI dude. And I said, you see this dog scuba diving? And then Whitney said, wait, that is AI, the Caleb one. And I was like, no, it wasn't, but I got you to believe that for a second. So that's a win for today. Yeah, you can make him believe. He definitely believed it for a second. Yeah. Yeah. Look at this one. This is the alternate angle or another time when he's doing the drill and he was he was crushing it

The funniest part of the one where he misses the net is that he like hits the coach behind the net on the last rep Yeah, it's a it's a funny clip. Yeah, I mean listen, but this is uh, unfortunately This is the the spot that I find myself in kill finds himself in that Any bad what happened to not not filming from the sideline? That might have been during the 20 minutes we were allowed to. I was going through all the whole list of it, like AI, that actually is illegal, we should get that copyrighted, taken down. There's music playing in the background?

Yeah, there's another clip that we need to signal boost. What are you going to say? We'll see how it goes when he's out on the field. But yeah, it is. It is basically if you click on one Caleb Williams video, you can get trapped pretty quickly into just highlights or lowlights of his camp. It might be my algorithm now. It might be like suggested videos for me. It happens. It happens. It happens. So whatever it's practice, right? Hank? It's practice. Although the stats from today don't look great. Practice. Are you talking about the practice stats? Are these true? I mean, it was that soldier field. Are you

talking about practice stats? Five for 17 with three interceptions. Dude, they're overloading them with stuff. You want to make these mistakes in the preseason. That's how you learn. It is just practice. It's just practice. It's August. We got another month. I can't believe this is my life. I'm smiling through it all. I think it's practice. I think two ago, like seven practices without throwing a pick. And then the fans all clapped when he finally threw one. Yeah. They know ball. Yeah. Miami. Good sports town. That's what we always say. This was Jalen Hurts last year when you, this was you. No, it was actually not good. That's not everything This was Jalen hurts last year when you this was you know, we're like it was actually not good That's not everything's about the that is It's so my this what this was what?

No, this is about to a entire bit that you guys did this is about to a month last year This is happening right now with Tua Currently yeah, it happened. I think his streak ended today Are you but are you forgetting that this was a bit that happened like all the preseason I don't remember that. I do remember that. You kept making fun of me and saying that it's not good that it's not good that he hasn't thrown an interception yet.

I'm just talking about what's happening right now with Tua. The fans clap because he finally threw a pick. Good sports town. Do you not believe that it's also happening to Tua? I'm sure it is, but like that was like a bit on this show for a month. It was it was and I Know actually no, I don't I don't take back any of that bit because Caleb Williams throws interceptions in practice. So he's a good quarterback It's good. Yeah, that's good. It's really good He's mistake by the way speaking of the Dolphins Mike Boutanio and Tyreek Hill do not like each other

I don't know that I was very very unsure and Tyreek Hill do not like each other. I didn't know that. I was very, very unsure that Tyreek would be back in Miami this year. Did they try to trade him? He's doing the, he's doing like a hybrid of the hold in, just be an asshole while participating thing. Yeah. Antonio Brown.

Yeah. He's just, he's just criticizing his fourth down play calling. Clown Reek. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't feel great. This is what this time of year is for though it's just people being it's like Pete Carroll throwing a Flag in a practice a challenge flag kale Williams missing a bunch of targets. Mm-hmm Everyone having a good laugh and you know guys holding in holding out Do you think that Pete Carolyn is in his year off you think he was chewing gum yes I feel like he waits for football for that I don't see him walking around the house doing it I gotta know no I

think he was doing it while he's watching football yeah when football's on TV yeah when he's watching tape yeah grinding tape I do have an update on day nine of Brown's training camp okay for their QB tracker that they've got Flacco 11 for 18 one touchdown touchdown, no picks. Sanders did not throw Dylan Gabriel 11 for 22, one touchdown, no picks picket injured, did not throw. I think it's gonna be flacco guys. Listen, as someone who is like someone who sees training camp and being like everything that happens there is actually more important than the games and we should need to take

it very seriously. It's flacco. Flack. It got to be flack. It's got to be flacko because these these reps matter Yeah, if you're laughing about these reps, you don't know ball. So we do we have a full stat tracker form there max Is that what you have? Yeah, this is the full Through Saturday, I mean Kenny Pickett right now has the best stats I would say yeah, but he got hurt But he's hurt can't make the club in the tub I mean flacco still three TD zero interceptions guy throws a good ball She door kind of lighten it up with 60 touch on zero interceptions 70. She door has the best stats You've got the wily vet and Joe it's like the old guy from squid game

Just waiting it out letting all the youngsters get eliminated now. You're stuck with him damn We should talk real quick about ESPN buying red zone because that was a big story as well and for me so people are rightfully mad or Freaking out because I'd say there's a decent chance that ESPN fucks this up No, I think what they'll do is they'll, I think much like inside the NBA, they won't fuck it up right away because they know people will be upset, but they will eventually fuck it up

and they'll slip in some things and non-commercial free football. Scott Hanson, you're out. Stephen A. Smith, you're in. It sucks. I mean, it's all because ESPN is about to launch their new ESPN Plus that's gonna be $30 a month So they need more sports more live rights to justify that adding red zone adding seven

NFL games is exactly what could justify that Don't fuck it up. They're gonna fuck it up, but don't fuck it up. They they're not gonna have commercials I don't think I hope that they won't I don't NFL Network tried that last year I don't think they're gonna have commercials right away, but I think that they're gonna have like very intrusive on-screen commercials During the actual and I think they're gonna eventually get to commercials. Mm-hmm. Yeah It's gonna suck Not good. Is it still gonna be Scott Hansen or do we have anybody else? Well, so it takes you know

It's not gonna happen this year. Uh- huh. So next year is the earliest it could happen. Uh, cause they, they have to like vote on this. You know, they're thinking greenie, dude, if you know, they're thinking, you know, you know, like the pitch deck for getting red zone was just Mike Greenberg's face. We've got the man, Scott Hansen. You can't screw with Scott Hansen and what he has. You can't. The history is basically their whole strategy now is just buy everything that is universally beloved and then try not to fuck it up. Yeah. That's a dangerous strategy they're playing. Because these are things inside the NBA and red zone are, I would say two of the highest approval rating things that exist in the sports world.

We don't like when you change the score bug by like one pixel. Yeah. It's going to be weird having the ESPN graphic. We get pissed when you start a game two minutes after it says like the start time. The tip time, yeah. This is, we get mad when you play a commercial too many times and the song gets in our head. If they screw up Red Zone,

that's my personal January 6th. It's gonna be a problem. Yeah. And then yeah, the inside of the NBA as well. I'm gonna put on the horns, I'm gonna get the staff, I'm gonna walk out of there with John Skipper's lectern. Don't fuck this up. Don't fuck this up. Okay, what else what else we want to talk about? We want to talk a little baseball national sports podcast. I got it. I got a baseball story. I actually know I'll save that for who's back. I was going to say Kyle Schwab should be MVP. Yep. You agree Hank do that's crazy. Wholeheartedly. Do you agree? I for sure agree. I think I'd show him tied show hay for home runs. Shohei's not pitching.

PCA is very good. He's cooled off a little. I would love for PCA to win MVP, but I also have a 91 ticket on Kyle Schorber. But that has nothing to do with us saying Kyle Schorber should win MVP. I'm not concerned with the NL race. I'm more concerned. Cal Raleigh should be AL MVP. I just feel very strongly about that.

Well, I agree with that as well. The baseball was awesome on Friday night, especially. There was a few walk-offs. They had that Pirates Rockies game that was 17 to 16. That was awesome. Baseball's heating up. It's good. Okay. And oh, we should talk about the Speedway Classic. That was an absolute disaster. Yeah, so the rain It's a it's a cool stadium, but that doesn't mean that you have to put other sports inside your cool stadium So I said I can Wrigley Field when they did the winter classic. Yeah terrible place to watch a baseball You can't either sightlines a hockey game Yeah, you to watch a hockey game great place to watch a baseball Terrible place to watch an NHL game for the winter classic.

Yeah, if it's a drone shot, if it's a blimp shot, it looks incredible. Anybody that's in that stadium not having a great time, I feel the same way about using NASCAR tracks to have other sports. So obviously they can't be blamed for the rain except for the fact that they tried to play an inning when they knew that they weren't going to play anything and that was really stupid. They ran out of hot dog buns in the first inning. They ran out of cheese on the nachos. They did have Tim McGraw and Pitbull performing together, which that's a crazy combo. But I don't understand. And I tweeted this this morning, like why not just do it at field of dreams every single year? I guess they're doing renovations there and they're making it like an insane all-encompassing

Baseball place that is gonna hold tournaments and everything But this is such a situation where like baseball had a really cool thing That white sock jankies game was insane and why not just go back there and do it. We're simple people We would like to see a field of dreams game and the only change that you make to it is just have the corn be The entire outfield mm-hmm. Yeah actual wall Yeah, but this was this made no sense and they totally botched it and they had a bunch of people sitting in the rain being Like oh, yeah, we're gonna play a game Oh, we're gonna play one inning and they had fucking blooper driving might might have been drunk on

play one inning and they had fucking blooper driving might might have been drunk on the track. That part was kind of cool. They should have breathalysed them. Should have figured that out. It's just it's just butter. Yeah. This was a total total mess by by MLB. I have I have a stay woke. You guys want to do a stay woke real quick. Yeah. Portland Pickles guy. Come on. Are we this stupid? fan? Yeah. Yeah the fan that got it I had it had the purest swing of all time. How are people falling for this? Do you know anything about the guy? I don't the Portland Pickles are a unaffiliated team I assume and they had a Special I think it's a collegiate summer league team. Yeah unaffiliated. Yeah summer ball and they had a

Contest where a fan could get in a bat and then the fan took the pitcher 425 feet This is what are we talking about here? This guy plays fans have had bats. Yeah, this guy plays somewhere Right. I mean that the bat speed was absolutely incredible insane pure sweat and like, got, I think he got a walk in the first at bat. And then was, like, running the bases really well and, like, seasoned vet. I'm not playing it. I will say, regardless, he still hit it. Like...

Of course. But what if he plays somewhere? That's a pro swing. For sure. Yeah. But he still hit a homer. They did the thing and he hit a homer which like it's cool. He could be yeah You're right

He could be the best player in the world and like still not hit a homer in his one and his one at bat Do we think that will let me see that pitch again? Was it a meatball? Looked like it was a fastball. Oh That was a meatball but still like yeah, but if you're that pitcher I think was I think it was a meatball. But still, like. Yeah. But if you're that pitcher. I think it was a 3-2 count. Apparently he.

Oh, the kid rocks. I'm just saying it's more that we can't actually believe that this is just a fan plucked out of the stands. But if you're that pitcher, you do not groove him on purpose. Unless it's planned. Because it's very embarrassing. But if it's planned and it's like we need to get a viral moment I think I think that picture would still be like fuck that I'm gonna try yeah

I think someone like broke it down and The pitch before was like a slider in the dirt like a 2-2 count that made it a 3-2 count so that so he did groove a fastball, but it was Directly after like a slot in the tough slider Okay, I have a stay woke. Yeah, I Think the WNBA is throwing dildos onto their own course. I talk about this get get the ratings up They did arrest someone someone get arrested someone got arrested dildo Chuckin Uh, so we had our second dildo go on to a court same exact green dildo sir

second dildo. Sir? Second dildo. It was, it was quite something seeing, I never thought we would get to the point where Sophie Cunningham had to tweet, stop throwing dildos on the court, you're going to hurt one of us. A real tweet. So there's a second dildo thrown. Bill's fans gotta be like, the dildozer. Yeah. Yeah, but there was a person who got arrested in Atlanta. What do you get arrested for? Dildo throwing. That's against the law? It's funny. That's against the law? I think throwing something onto a basketball court, like a professional game is probably against the law. Even if it's funny? Yeah, they could always be like that could hurt someone.

If somebody tripped and fell in a dildo That would be pretty funny. Yeah, be very funny. I said the same thing in the NFL Yeah, what happened at Bill's games? Yeah, the Valkyries are the ones that are getting so it's both their games Yeah, so the Valkyries Atlanta and then the Valkyries in Chicago and dildos came on the court for both of them And they're bright colored you can't miss them looked like Shrek stick It's very we have a serial dildo thrower you think it's the same guy. I don't know I think they arrested the first guy, so I don't know but they might not have arrested him We got to see this person might be a copycat. I do I do agree this could be a stay woke

Oh look at the ref kick it Perfect and then they use a take it up. to pick it up. What if she kicked it and went right into that video guy's butt? Or his mouth. Listen, you shouldn't throw stuff on the court, but if you're going to throw something, a dildo is objectively speaking the funniest thing to throw. Yeah, it is funny. And again, it was funny when the Bills did it. Yeah. It'd be funny no matter what event it was. It's going to keep happening, isn't it? I'd like to see a crossover, like breakthrough sports. So it's not just sports.

It's like political debates. Yeah. Imagine if Biden got like a suction cup dildo that was thrown stuck to his forehead. Forehead, yeah. Didn't realize it. It would be cool if we had like a challenge where it was just one person.

People shouldn't start throwing dildos. But if one guy can throw green dildos at sporting events around America and not get caught, I'm in for that. The dildo bandit would be an all time story and maybe mixing some baseball games, some training camps. What if you throw a dildo during a baseball game and then a pitcher hits it like Randy Johnson destroying the bird, just exploded the dildo. What if a guy comes to training camp, throws a dildo and Ben Johnson's like, get me that guy. Does the dildo go into the net? He needs to be our quarterback. Somebody added just a bunch

of dildos into Caleb Williams. They should remake missing the net. Yeah. Rookie of the year. But it's the dildo throw. Yeah. We need that dildo thrower. Get them over here. The rookie year. Fun fact. Yeah. PCA's mom. Yeah. Have we talked about this on the show? No, that's just one of those. No, we haven't. I don't know if we've talked about on the show. It's a very fun fact. Yeah. PCA's mom is in rookie of the year. She's the mom and rookie of the year. Yeah. Yeah. It's a fun fact. It is very fun fact. Um, I thought you were going to confess to the dildo throwing. No, I've not gone to a WNBA game. No, I don't play. Yeah. That's interesting. What if you knew

that there were going to be dildos, huh? Maybe if it was like a big event. What if this whole golf thing was just a cover up for Hank having an addiction to throwing dildos and WNBA players? cover-up for Hank having an addiction to throwing dildos and WNBA players. I'm going golfing again this weekend guys. Oh I got to travel for golf. It's a great out by. It is. Your handicap keeps getting lower. Where I think it's gonna happen again. It's definitely gonna happen. I think on Amazon the dildos are low on stock. Are they gonna be tracked now? I think so. The ATF is gonna start tracing every sale

of every dildo? Hank, I think you got your 90s baseball movies mixed up. Was it Little Big League? Little Big League, his mom is in it. Yes, yes. Not Rookie of the Year. Rookie of the Year is the one I was talking about. Little Big League, I think, is a better movie

than Rookie of the Year. No, Rookie of the Year is better. No, Little Big League. I think is a better movie than rookie the no rookie the year's now little big League is no little big league is legit a great movie rookie the year's legit a great movie I like the year's legit. Hello. Yeah, Barry. I like them both you guys need to watch a little big league again I've seen great film. It is good, but rookie the year is better Yeah, you got him. That's alright. Those are very similar You got it now? Yeah. So back to you, sir. On these dildos.

I like Little Big League better. Yeah. Oh, okay. Embrace debate. Zach, which one do you like better? He's seen neither. Ron Tomatoes has Rookie of the Year higher. Okay. Which one do you like better? Rookie of the year has uh?

What's named Daniel Stern? Hairy no Marv No, Harry Harry Harry, he's so funny. He's so funny. He's so hot ice. Yeah heat up the ice garden hoser Do you Uh, do you know what? It's just listen don't throw dildos on the court But uh, the fact that this is an actual conversation people have to have online is so far. Mm-hmm. It's so fucking funny again Don't throw dildo do not throw dildos on the court. It can hurt

one of us. Please don't. But I will laugh if it happens every time. And it does. It actually, I think it might be funnier at an NBA game than. Yeah. It doesn't matter what sport it is. Doesn't matter what event. If somebody brings in a stray dildo, I'm in. It would be nice if we had, you know, little, you know, representation matters if we get a pocket pussy thrown out at an NBA game. That'd be great. Let's get that going. Asa Kyrgis.

Remember that one? Yeah. No, that was a pocket pussy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's what I said. You were looking out. I was reading about a little big league and rookie of the year. If somebody just throws one of those big fists...

Have you seen those? Oh! They're just the forearm and the fist? Yeah. Yeah, just big giant butt fist. You getting those in your Google Ads or something? Big giant butt fist. No, they always kept that one in the corner at the sex shop.

Yeah. You go in there and it was like... The real hardcore shit. The real motherfuckers. Yeah, the real... You want some hardcore shit. That's the real shit.. The real motherfucker. Yeah, the real you want some hardcore shit. That's a real shit. Okay. Anything else? Oh, your new closer has an awesome walk up. He always had that. I know twins fans, by the way, I should say twins fans, this has sucked

for you. We've talked about Minnesota sports being just abused, but the twins just trading their entire team and just being shitty ownership. That needs to change. They they're in the category with the Rockies with the A's with the Pirates. They have more success than those teams, but their owners don't care and their owners aren't trying to win. And so fuck their own. That's why Little Big League is such a cathartic movie. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna look up their owners because we got to we got to give them some twins owners. The pole ads. Fuck them. The pole ads. That sounds like I'm sounds like a slur. Yeah, I was gonna say that. But the pole ad family fuck you guys. Jim pole ad. Jerk. Karl pole ad. Jerk. Jim son Joe jerk maybe an AWL listen if you want to get us free tickets we

won't take them the pull ads I'm considering it I will not but only I'm standing up for twins fans you guys getting fucking screwed how long have these guys on the team for a long time are they like that 84 so they were around for the Kirby Puckett Ken Hurbebeck. Team on the back. Yeah. But yeah, it's been a long time. I mean, they, they, they're, they do the thing that is the worst in ownership. I know that like obviously moving a team is moving teams, the worst, but putting out a team where all you're trying to do is get to the playoffs a little bit and never actually go for it. Uh, that's bullshit. It's very frustrating. Yeah, that's insanely frustrating.

Okay. So yeah, the new closer twins fans rightfully were like, he's always had this walk up music. It was more that the link looked pretty sick. When he came in the bank. Sorry. I get my my Phillies. Yeah, you're getting you're good. They say quant on Hank. Are you feeling good about your Red Sox? No, we didn't make a lot of moves of the deadline You guys just yeah, but I think you just took over first place in the at least no No, you just over the Yankees in the alley's you swept the Astros. I Feel alright. I'm still I'm still running side by side with the bandwagon. Okay, not fully on board yet. Have you put a foot on? No, but I've caught up cut up speed No, but I've caught up to speed.

Okay, you've caught up to speed. We just didn't, no moves at the deadline. Yeah, a lot of teams did no moves at the deadline. Okay, should we do Who's Back of the Week? Yeah. And then we'll get to our Mount Rush war and we will do our interviews. Saquon was awesome.

Cam Jergens and Lane Johnson were awesome. Great time, and then we got a couple more Eagles interviews coming. All right, before we do who's back the week, game time. There's nothing like getting to a baseball game, especially last minute. Lucky for me, I always use game time. The official ticketing partner, Barstool Sports. Game time makes getting tickets faster and easier. Prices on the app actually go down the closer it gets to show time. Looking at tickets. Hank Can you look up tickets? Maybe for Monday night Cubs? Sure look up some tickets So take the guess we're got a buying tickets with game time download the game time app create an account use code PMT for $20

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One of the biggest homers biggest ranters, maybe the number one ranter on social media Like gilly just he he can put out you know ten to twenty minutes of videos via rants a day He can also do rants where he doesn't even say anything Yeah, just stares at the camera like dances to and you get it and you like I just got ranted He didn't open his mouth. Mm-hmm So he was going off about Jill and her it said, you know Kim Newton never got one of these Kim Newton then went on his show got pretty personal started you know talking about Gilley's rap career and kind of took it you know obviously Gilley took a shot at him and then Cam just went for the jugular Gilley responded and then Johnny Manziel from the clouds from the

clouds was Gilley's birthday I guess Big Dom brought the Lombardi to his trophy and then Gilley was obviously you know know, trolling more. And Johnny Manziel from the cloud just said, you may be the biggest fucking loser on the planet talking like you've done fucking done anything on a football field. If I see you just know I'm going to slap the fuck out of you. Trust. Did anyone come to Gilley's defense? One Stephen Che. Who wrote, Gilly only has seven fewer TD passes but also has

seven less interceptions than you on an NFL football field. So I'm not sure here the right guy to gatekeep NFL discussions because you are nobody in that world to great college player though respect. I like to respect all that. That really that really makes it all better. And then Johnny said and you're the right guy to say anything You should blow Dave every single day for your job. Fuck your respect suck my dick Just that's a lot of dick sucking Steve has to do. Yeah, also, it's me. He blows me not Dave For his job and then Steve had just hit him with the do you like my hat? Which is killer It's tough to come back from that one to also respect. What's so Johnny Manziel? It's like this is a beef. I didn't see coming

No, yeah, and then Gilly did a funny video response with like, you know Flower or something all over his face. Just being like stick wide stay out of the status. Stay out of my business Yeah, and it all started because I assumed cam went on Johnny's podcast and talk shit about Jalen hurts. I Think yes. Okay. There's just been a lot of Cam Newton versus Jalen Hurts discourse in the last two weeks. Got it. And people are simultaneously not appreciating Jalen Hurts for winning Superbowl and also forgetting that Cam Newton was fucking amazing. Really good. Yeah. He won an MVP. He did. What an MVP. You got Ron Rivera to the Super Bowl. Did.

People don't talk about that. We're both Ron. All right. That was a good one. Good who's back. Good who's back, right? Yeah. Also, Kim Young, first PGA Tour win.

Yeah. Been on tour for a long time. I thought he had won before. Yeah. Him and like Tommy Fleetwood are kind of the, everyone thinks they've won, but they haven't. Can't win the small one. What was, I saw saw he was insane this weekend I saw there was like was it's his round two and round three

Combined was like 125 shots. That's so insane. Yeah, they're playing some Mickey Mouse courses these last couple weeks but that means like I Mean there's like he could probably beat me on 36 holes if you play a tee if you played 18 Yeah, if you play 18 from where he played where he teed off from 126 is like right right around there. What would you shoot? like 110 126 I could probably shoot 126 they play from so far back. Yeah, that's crazy though

That is nuts one to 125 shots in two in two two days huge win for MLB Huge win Was this connection again? He wears the MOB patch. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's right. He's sponsored by a different. That's right by MLB Yeah, that's right Okay, who's back the week PFT? My who's the week is Tom Brady. Oh, Tom Brady's back Hank Did you know that Tom Brady was back this weekend? Here Tom Brady is having Statue Day on Friday. Yeah a 12 8 oh that makes sense. That does make sir unveiling the statue. They were going to do it last year

But then they canceled it because to I think he had a concussion and then Fox wasn't gonna send their a team so Tom Brady didn't go to that game Ah, so they canceled it now. They're doing it preseason week one preseason Against commanders against commanders. That's true. We talked about this, but do you think lighting the lighthouse? Gotta be I don't know. I don't think so. What? I don't think he is. It's a statue day. That's a lot of stuff he has to do. How long does it take to get down? What if the statue is on the lighthouse?

That would be sick. What if they should just redo the lighthouse as a giant? Like the Statue of Liberty, but Tom Brady. Yeah. Yes Yes, it's like a semi-limb football That would rock actually that that would be one way for me to come completely around on this fucking fake lighthouse If it's in the shape of Tom Brady and at the back of his jersey just says lighthouse. Yeah, I Hope I hope he likes does though. I think he already has though I think he might have done it first or second, but you know they have the book up there

That means he would scroll by my page, but wait Hank. They don't actually like the lighthouse Ring the bell you ring the bell yeah at the light But you sign the book every every every keeper of the light signs a book ah and so when he's scrolling through it He'll be like oh, there's my guy Patriots legend also variable went on Frank walks I was like I hope to one day get to a point where they would go to jail for us This team talked about the Brady for mm-hmm. I'm there Vrabel. Oh Already there. Yeah, I would I would I would literally even without Terry and my kill a man for my variable Uh, did you see Brady at Raiders camp? No. Oh, yeah, he was all over the place. How's he looking?

He the it basically confirms that anyone who puts on any Raiders logos look cool all the time. It is awesome It's an all-time hat logo The silver and black. Yeah, he looks cool. Yeah, there was a bunch of there's a bunch of he was at the practice I'm not a huge fan of that. Here's the practice where Pete Carroll was throwing false flags if you you're a Raiders fan, you like the fact that Tom Brady owns your team or has an ownership stake.

Yeah. You like that. But also, is there a part of you that's seeing him wearing the silver and black makes you be like that motherfucker? Why can't he just play? Well, the tuck rule. Oh, yeah. But also, why can't he just play, probably?

It would just give you flashbacks of what's going on right now. Because he looks like he could play still. He does. So that would be the, hey, why can't you just play probably it would just give you flashbacks of like what what's going on right? Because he looks like he could play still he does so like that would be the hey Why can't you just play when you know although Gino they got you know? Yeah, what if something happens Gino? What if what if he gets banged up or something this year you think Tom Brady would think about it? It would definitely be a Smith's take yeah, it would cross his mind bailus. Yeah, it would cross his mind. And Bayless. I think it would cross his mind. Yeah, he was with John Spytek, our friend John Spytek, who was Brady's college teammate in Michigan, who's

the GM of the Raiders now. Yeah. I think I'm going to buy some. I might buy some Raiders stock this year, just because of Gino and Pete Carroll. Seeing Pete Carroll, what was that? And Brady. No, I don't think that he has anything to do with them

being good this year, unless he plays. But it's more the Gino and Pete. Pete Carroll is like, the Raiders have been all over the place. Pete Carroll feels like there's going to be some consistency there. He's running a practice. He's old, but he's young. Maybe Christian Wilkins saw Tom Brady wearing that Raiders. He was like you look good

Look real good Tom. Mm-hmm. Let's get weird with it. Mm-hmm. Let me kiss you on the top of your head. Mm-hmm Okay Is that your only who's back? Yeah, just Tom Brady my surprise Hankton take it Well, we I talked we talked about the Statue day a couple weeks ago like a month a statue week The week's here. Well, it's next week if it's a 12. It might not be a 12 I might just made that up. I thought it was gonna be this Friday. Oh upcoming Friday. Yeah, I hate 12 No, you made that up six twelve was Brady Day

Okay, well you're firing today What I've hangover Hank again When I said that I really knew it when I said though they should throw a pocket pussy on and then I said I said career and he's like no that was a pocket pussy When I said a 12 year ago, yeah, it makes sense Well, yeah, I mean it did you just threw it out there and then I looked and I was like, that's a Tuesday Okay, they're playing on a Tuesday. So it's Friday. 88. 88 degrees. It's eight eighths Friday. All right. My who's back of the week is the Miami Marlins. Uh, because the Miami

Marlins, uh, swept the Yankees for the first time in franchise history. They also have been playing awesome ball. They're back to 500. Miami Marlins are 31 and 15 since June 9th. They're 26 and 10 since mid-June. They might sneak away into the playoff. They're six games out of the wild card. I don't know.

Fun story going on in Miami. Crazy to think that they're so far ahead of the Braves right now. They are. If you say that at the start of the season, people think you're insane. But yeah, I mean, the fish are good. Yeah, they also are the only team in MLB history that do not have a losing record against the New York Yankees in the regular season. That's kind of crazy. Kind of crazy. And they have overall winning record when you include the 2003 World Series. And was their first sweep and this was their first sweep. All right. Yeah, pretty nuts. So Marlins man at the game Well, that was also part of it motherfucker Marlins man. No, I didn't mean to say that Marlins

Didn't mean to say that man is also back. He I mean listen He might be the reason why the Marlins are back. I think his little companion might be the reason Yeah, Marlins man. Let's see. He said, uh, Althena visiting from Hawaii. Sweet girl. Her tick tock is some, some random check, some random check. So go follow her. And then what was his follow up? We don't need to see the follow up. The follow up was that was the end of that story. That was the end. That's, that was the end of that reporting. His header is stolen Valor by the way. He's not actually fighter pilot.

Okay, keep going down. The loser would pretend to do that. Yeah, he then tweeted out her TikTok. He said, for those that don't know her, she's super smart, really nice and very good family and no, I'm not cheating on... He's not cheating on that person because they don't have a relationship so yes I agree now she is still a 10 is that that's for some random check I think he's talking about she's still a 10 for yeah some random check yeah Marlins man's back I mean rough and rowdy Marlins man I'd be a sick undercard for Johnny Manziel against Gilly

yeah some random chick now Max is looking up some random chick. She's nice. Looks like a nice lady. Comes from a good family. Yeah. Marlins man said it all. Really nice. Really nice woman. She looks smart. Yeah. The Marlins are back though. Good story. I don't want them to get in the playoff. That's not a video of her making out with Marlins, man, is it? Where? On her TikTok? She's making out with somebody.

Uh... No, that's not Marlins. No, that's not Marlins, man. Okay, good. No. That's another woman. Hmm. They can do that?

Apparently! That's awesome. Uh... Zach, you're who's back. My who's back of the week is mr. Beast Okay, so mr. Beast had put together a clean water initiative hashtag team water and in just two days They've raised like I think it's like six point seven million dollars for clean water around the world They say each dollar donated will provide one person clean water for entire year, so I've gotten together like a bunch of different uh

Sounds like Chris Long's thing The water boys yeah, he just stole Chris Long's idea Could be similar But I just thought it was a I thought it was an all-time thing to in two days bring that much water to the people He's bringing a lot of water to the people So if you like if you if you like don't it, please go over there anybody listen Maybe donate some clean water Zach can you do the the mr. Beast faced for all your thumbnails from now on? I can do that for you 50 I think that's a good thought. That's a good face. Yeah

Oh, we also should have mentioned Lucas back because he signed his extension with the lake Yeah, and looks very skinny and he is going to make a billion dollars. Yeah. Yeah and in salary This was actually like kind of a big deal because the Lakers didn't have they didn't have like the financial trump card against other teams like they would have like the Mavericks. Yeah. So they did have to kind of sell them on it. But yeah, he's he's officially going to be a Laker for at least what? The next three years. Yeah. Yeah.

And he's taking the stance of like, I I just get in good shape every offseason. This offseason was no different. Yeah, had nothing to do with the contract. Nothing to do with everybody talking about how I was fat and then also being due for a contract. Yeah, nothing. He does look great. He looks very skinny. Yeah, there was a picture of him because he was at the National Card Show, and he looked very skinny. Good for Luka. And also, I think the first thing he did was the first thing Luka Doncic did with his new contractor sonny's new contract

I bet you guys won't guess it Because we'll go be laugh. Oh In and out Smoked cigarette. No, he went to Las Vegas To see the Backstreet Boys at the sphere. Very cool. Pretty awesome pretty fucking cool See the where else would you want to go with the boys? Where else would you want to go with the boys?

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What, there was controversy on Friday? There's no controversy on Friday. Oh wait, there was. There was a lot of controversy. Memes. It shouldn't count. Your sleazebag. I'm not a sleazebag.

I'm not a sleazebag. You're a sleazebag. I'm not a sleazebag. Because you tweeted out the video of Mount Rushmore. I didn't tweet out anything. I forgot about this. I didn't tweet out anything. Yeah, you did.

No, the Mount Rushmore should be voided immediately because it was tweeted out by the Barstool main account that has 30.2 million followers cross-platform before 12. And then you tweeted the video. How'd you let them get access to it? Good question great question. I didn't send the folder who did funnels through you. It's your department So it is your department. Well your buddies with head of social this could have been ahead of raise head of research My personal head of research and yeah, so this could have been a collusion attempt to take down Rushmore who won Rushmore. Oh

Now it's interesting your good friend guys Me and pfD won. Yeah, right knows pfD and hank are the favorite characters of the show You're good friend meeting when that guy said that number one host But I don't have access to I don't I don't have access to those videos It is interesting that the teaming that the team that came in last is the one team that doesn't have millions of followers I think it's interesting interesting that memes tweeted out the video I didn't tweet out I'm looking at the video right now tweeted at 11 11 a.m. on Friday from at pardon my meme yes I was bringing

attention that it was already it was already tweeted out did you tweet the video out? I didn't tweet out. I quote. I quote tweeted the video that was posted All big me. So are you saying you could be a part of my take fan and not a barstool fan? I'm saying that those people might yeah this yes. Yeah. No Absolutely those people that they don't exist. They do exist. If you follow my account, you follow the Barstool account. You said, hey, this is an issue. Part of my take, yak. Calling the memes army to go vote for you. No.

But not Barstool. Yeah, not Barstool. But if you follow my account, you probably follow that account. No, there's tons of memes. There's 6.6 million people that follow that. There's tons of memes heads out there. Oh yeah. So I brought it to your guys to your guys attention immediately saying how did this happen? They should be voided and we the vote shouldn't count

And nobody responded. Well, you know how it happened You're the one who works in the Social Department You are our Social Department on PMT Social Department. Can can use different form. Can you say those ground rules? Can you be like hey, we don't tweet this out until after the polls over Probably should it seems like something that if you're rectified that yeah, we'll set a meeting. We'll do me in tomorrow memes, okay? So it doesn't count me you and me and gas counts. I Knew you've tried to rig this every which way I knew you've tried to rig this every which way

Let's go hang nothing all right now rush more things that begin with Q. Who's up first? I believe we are up first, okay? I Did no fighting. I'm done fighting One time he didn't yeah, he was mad that I didn't that I didn't fight. I said I'm done fighting I thought I fought so much last week my My watch has ended. I need I I'm going into this week with good vibes. I was bad vibes last week My fight guy Believe pft and hanker first and then Zack and I are second. Yes, okay I believe PFT and Hanger first and then Zack and I are second. Yes. Okay

All right for the one one things that start with Q PFT and I will take case. Oh, oh, okay can't Yeah, great. Good. We get it. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I mean amazing We'll go with the most important position in all sports quarterback. Yeah that too have to We were we were we is going Kinsanera. Hank, would I put on the list? This is actually like, I said, do not pick Kinsanera parties. Let Max take it. I

Was that goes we're just brain don't know is he thought it he knows he thought it Words is that goes you're been to a kids and year and I was like no and Max is gonna pick it anyway He definitely thought it all right, so what's your- Wait, so were you guys deciding between Queso and quarterback? Yeah, we were. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that was- it was literally gonna be whatever you guys didn't go, we were gonna go. He has a list on his phone.

Oh, we gotta go- we gotta autodraft Kinsignere! Oh no, no. It goes right to the highest value. There's a relatable one to this situation. No, you have to fill out your roster. It's like when you auto draft on, you know, and you take a kicker in the seventh round, no one here has taken, you know, underage girl parties. So Max has to take it. When is he coming back? He might just have quit. Can I say something real quickly? This is a filler for Max

Comeback. Doing this exercise with the letter Q, there are so many words that I don't know why, but in my head I was like, that doesn't start with Q. And then I, like, I don't, I don't know why I didn't think like K-Saw. I was like, oh yeah, that does, cause it's like kind of a C. I started looking at the lowercase Q so much that it started to melt my brain. It was like what is that letter? Yeah, it looks like a P. I was I was mad at myself that I was just like holy shit. You're so dumb Yeah, you just didn't even realize these words start with Q. Also a lot of Q words that don't even have you next to it Yeah Crazy, is he coming back? Memes, I think you got to go. Memes, we're going to pick

Kinsanera if he doesn't come back. No, they said they're going to autodraft. Autodraft. He just said his password. Did that get picked up? Oh man, the FBI is going to get a hold of that. All right, we're going to go idea, okay, all right pickinson era just do it And then we'll go Queen Latifah Holy shit Wow Okay Wow, he's gonna be so mad Wow Queen Latifah max I we go five I

Like five is a great pig. Yeah This is what this one's act didn't even think of and when I when I said it out loud He's his eyes lit up and he was so excited. Okay Go ahead. We would like to take quarter pounder quarter pounder McDonald's that's a good pay who's like oh shit that's a good how did I not even think about it that's check oats I didn't think about that big head alright Hank you got this bro thanks bro go a little bro we want parentheses McDonald's no why no quarter pounder what quarter yeah you picked a quarter pounder McDonald's

quarter come on. That's Things that starts with Q knock yeah, but it's not a rent this now quarter pound. Are you guys serious? Pft you agree that's ridiculous. It's a bird. It's a bird. Okay. I Honestly think that quarter pounder looks better. Okay, but if you want me I'm fine with you wanting if you want it you can have it You're being a you're being real dick. I I think putting parentheses McDonald it hurts their case we are gonna take Quentin Tarantino movies okay good pick right on the list and then with our third pick we are going to take just based off the movie never actually

had any myself but Qu utes okay good pick okay Not drug guys not drug guys not guys to seeing quail utes. Yeah, I tried guys long before the toos There was the cues. Yeah, you get loose. Okay. What do we want to do here? I? Like 12 or maybe 10. What do you think? What about 6? Seems good. It sounds like you don't love 6. I like 6. Not much of a 6 guy?

No, he doesn't sound like he likes 6. 6 can get overstimulating sometimes. Okay. Okay, okay. Alright, you want wanna go 12? Let's go 12. Think it is the it's no you you know what you pick. I like your choice. Let's go. Don't take whatever you think is gonna do the best. They're all great picks. We have a great list. I like your instincts. Go with your instincts. Go with your gut. Okay, we're gonna take we're gonna take Quavo. Okay for me goes Okay, there we go. All right, P skirt skirt. No, he's not dead

You don't know what I meant by all right He's not dead Definitely not dead rap in peace. Okay Definitely not dead. Rap in peace. Okay. Okay, Max is back. Filmin. Memes made a bad pick. No, I like Queen Latifah. He took Queen Latifah number two. What's your favorite Queen Latifah song? I don't know. She's a queen. Okay. No one's done this, right? Yeah. We'll take Queen, the band.

Okay, good pick. Hat on our list. We got... You wanna do the cartoon? Don't. You think that... What? I think he's overthinking. Were you thinking of...

What? Of Doug Funnies' alter ego? No, that was on my list. That's a good pick. Can I pick it? Do do do do facts if I can if I can interject real quick I think the Queen Latifah pick is gonna be the end of your guys draft here. Giggity doesn't really matter. I Don't care Queen Latifah's a good pick

You're a big Queen Latifah fan yeah in the second round I love Queen Latifah okay, Yeah in the second round. I love Queen Okay, she did that movie scene where she rode a bike through the city taxi taxi driver, okay? We thinking chain likes her pick it as do quagmire, okay, okay? Zach I think we should go with with 11 just because if we're being true to ourselves and what made us laugh the most Rip it. Okay Our last pick we're gonna take quitting no better feeling we have them list to yeah quitting is the winnings good Especially if you're losing yeah, just quitting. I don't think that'll look good on a graph. Okay, that's fine. You quit on this Mount Rushmore

Quitting is you literally just quit you waiting it is so satisfied it felt good it's the best feeling if you're a quit a job you don't like best fucking feeling in the world when I quit golf for those three days I felt awesome just being like you know what I'm not gonna do this thing anymore yeah it's so good this thing sucks I can do anything now that I'm not doing this old thing again yeah all right I don't know p PFT. There's a lot of picks on the board. There's tons Hank. Do we go with like what's better for

society? Do we go with what's you guys should play it to yourself? I'm getting like more. I'm getting interested to see what Hank thinks is better for society. Well, there's one obvious one that's great for society. We played one that we we thought was funny to ourselves. Don't pander to the board. I'm not paying or I'm just trying to make the best pick on the on the board. Okay. Hank, I would say I'm gonna I'm gonna highlight it. Okay. Is this the one that you're saying is good for society? It's our second second thing. Oh no, don't pick that. Okay. Oh, you gotta pick it now. That's a bad pick. Pick it.

I would say either the one, I would say number three or number five. All right. Five is a good one. All right, we're going to go with five. We're going to go quests. Anytime you go, anytime you do anything and you say it's a quest instead of like, I'm going to the grocery store

but you say I was on a quest, it just sounds fun. It's's awesome anything you do that can even somehow be described as a quest is fun. It's an adventure. Yeah If someone asks you to go on a quest Doesn't matter what it is. It already sounds more fun than yeah, like going on a trip what? What was left off? We would you? Quest oh dude you'd go and quest all the time. Yeah Quest oh, did you go and quest all the time? Yeah? Last night. I haven't gone any quests, but I know it's Zach. I'm being honest Zach was high on it So I have to back up my teammate. I can't He was like when Zach goes to McDonald's that might be a quest. What's definitely what were you guys deciding between max?

We honestly didn't have much on the board you never anything left We honestly didn't have much on the board you never anything left I'm happy you talked me out of quantum quantum physics BFD. Oh, that's what Hank thought was good for society It is and my MRI lasers GPS like so many great things that we use in our day-to-day life are direct results of quantum physics Without quantum physics MRIs or quantum physics are results of quantum physics. I didn't know that. Yeah, a lot of things. All right. I just said I didn't want you to box yourself into corner where you would have to then explain what quantum physics were. Yeah.

What do we got? LEDs, mobile phones, GPS. We had quad box? Yep, had that. That was what that was six that we were thinking about. That was it. We already had odd boxes For sure a better pick than quests. No call box is a good pick

I we were that was one that we almost went with we had Quebec Okay, Queens of the Stone Age. Yep, doesn't Canada hate people from Quebec. Isn't that like the the redheaded stepchild of Canada I think it's more like people from Quebec don't really like the rest of Canada. Yeah more like people from Quebec don't really like the rest of Canada. Yeah. Qdoba. Qdoba. Yeah, that's a good one. I think the best pick that we had that we didn't pick, but it would have, who knows how it would look and everything, but quilted toilet paper, three ply. That's the best. That's a good one. You know, you got it. I mean, you can't go to two ply, one ply. God damn it. I think it would have depended on the parentheses and I feel like we would have got

Overruled but if we could have put quarters the drinking game. Mmm. What a good pick I feel like you guys were just made to say quarters. Yeah. Mm-hmm No, I mean I had I had I was trying to figure out Brady Quinn spiral didn't really quite gone gin There was a moment that no, I don't know what that is Star Wars up to one I've never seen You got our natural reaction. I saw that on the list. I was gonna pretend that I knew what you were talking about He's like the most yeah, whatever Dark all kills them Zach Zach throughout questions and I go why and he goes exactly there you go

He got me. He got me good with that. You don't learn much if you don't ask questions. What would you say about questions? That's how we that's how we learn every that's how we find without questions. We have nothing we've literally nothing I thought something similar but in for the like just a question mark and just having the graphic have a question mark That's not a key. That would be abstract but confusing, but I don't think it would have I don't think it would have played But like think of how often people use the question mark yeah, mm-hmm Hank put quantum of solids on there Okay, actually bad movie though unfortunately Quakers the religion shout out my Quakers out there my friends quiet car on the train Quiet car pretty good pretty nice when you get it Quasars I got Zach's gonna be up all night. I got him on quasars.

What are quasars? Quasars are like super black holes that like shoot a huge fucking light through it. That's pretty rad. Yeah. Qatar? The country? Look up quasars. I know the Amir is a listener right now. Mr. Amir, hope you're finding your day to be peaceful and bountiful as always. Yeah. Yeah, not a lot. How do you spell this? Quirty. Quirty.

Yeah, there you go. A quasar is a very luminous, distant galactic nucleus powered by a supermassive black hole. These objects are incredibly bright, sometimes outshining entire galaxies Quasars are thought to be powered by material falling into a supermassive black hole You lost me Which heats up and emits intense radiation as it spirals inward look at that look at the visual of it That is pretty sick. It's fucking awesome. Yeah, it's like God peeing into a toilet. Yeah, it's so sick Yeah, quasars get everyone on the quasars

The Q non shaman yes Q and on that guy rocks QVC network. Okay. Yeah, really fun shopping really fun I don't know if this would play but I've always just kind of been interested in it quicksand. Is it real? Yeah, I don't know kind of cool. I said Quakers Quaker I know anything about a sick Quaker student. You know one quiches pen me You're a Quaker a Quaker bro. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that yeah. I just know the pen the pen Quaker I don't have to fight in a war. It's really sick That is like like you said that I'm macro dosing and that was never talks about on this show I said it before life hack really become Qu Quaker so you don't have to serve I

Don't do what the military part the Quaker just know he's a Quaker. Yeah He's well, I think I said that he was raised as a Quaker. I was I haven't been to meeting in probably 30 years That's what it's called. Yeah meeting called meeting friends meeting what yeah, it's called the Society of Friends What the fuck you just you just you just kind of hang out in silence There's no real leader, and then if you're compelled to speak you speak sometimes people talk a lot Do they read is there any like do they have? What's on your mind memes memes has a banger right now. They have oatmeal We do not make oatmeal okay. I've never produced oatmeal although. I do enjoy it memes

What's the banger that you're thinking of now does the tallest person stand up in the meeting and they're the lead? Yeah Yep, that's what happens That's why I quit. That's why I stopped going such a dick Quality time with the boys Zack yeah, that one. That's good one. Zack rip off a couple that you had. What are you guys thinking about Quartz countertops? They're pretty good. They're fantastic in kitchens. Quartz in general, I think is an underrated material. Definitely beautiful. Yeah. Queer Eye the show? Yeah. I've never watched it, but it's an iconic

show. Do you think this would have played in any way because it's such a funny word, queef. We talked about it. Yeah. Don't really know. I enjoy a good queef. It's funny. It's funny to call someone a queef. Yeah. Or say the word queef.

Yeah, it's funny. I don't know if an actual queef would be funny. Quake the video game? Yeah. Good game. Quahog is the town from Family Guy? Mm-hmm. Is it also like a clam or an oyster? Yep, love a love a guy who does a quick pitch. Yeah quick pitches are good. Pretty awesome quick trip baseball the gas station. Yeah What do we also got there's some quick Richardson Quinn Richardson, yeah, that's quick Quinn Snyder was good Quincy Doobie

Quincy AC What Zack said a quickie quickie quickie? Yeah, that's all I know Same quick is great saying read the shirt All right quicksilver if you want to look like your surfer yeah surfer bro Q-tips If you want to look like your surfer, yeah surfer, bro Q tips QT tips. I love a good tip. What do you hate about q-tips? Just feel like I'm like hitting my brain Yeah, it probably is that close. Mm-hmm

Just scraping your brain not a q-tip guy, okay Quiznos Yeah, whiz nose was so good quiz nose. I was out. Oh no, but you they toasted the Q-tip guy. Okay. Quiznos. Yeah. Quiznos was so good. Quiznos, I was out on Quiznos. No, but you- When they toasted the sub. You didn't experience the prime of Quiznos.

Yeah. Quiznos had its prime like 2000 to 2004, 2005. It was different. Quiznos and Sonic had so many commercials on and neither of them were anywhere near where I lived growing up So those were they were like exotic like anytime I could get quiz on their Sonic I was like, this is huge. This is a huge day quiz. Those had like the little mini toasted ones

Like the yeah wraps those were yeah around like 2008. That was it was hot They were so good and then and then subway realized hey, we can also put a giant toaster in our restaurant yeah this could work for us as well okay any any other oh quiche I think we said that but quiches are good they're very French but they're good they're okay yeah you don't like rather trash quinoa is gross well he was hair garbage healthy it's garbage health super healthy garbage if you ask me would I rather have a quiche or an omelet? I'm doing omelet Well, yeah, but that's not what that's a quiche is not for an omelet setting a quiche is for going to someone's house for like Breakfast like you know what I mean? Like a quiche better than an eye. They have like bagels

I if you're gonna give me the option of having the baked pastry egg thing, I'm going frittata. Yeah, but you see what I'm saying? You're going to order a quiche at a restaurant. Correct. But quiches are perfect for if you show up to someone, someone's like, hey, we're going to have breakfast. Come over to our house.

There's a quiche there. Isn't a frittata just a quiche without the pie crust? It's frittata. Yeah, and the pie crust is awesome in a quiche. Frittata. Give me the frittata. Hey, it's the pie crust? It's frittata. Yeah, and the pie crust is awesome. Yeah, the pie crust is great. The quiche, frittata. Give me the frittata. Hey, it's good to have you back, Max. Talk about food.

Me and you. This is our spot. Yeah. The pie crust. It is. Quiche. We came back on quiches. Yeah, I like quiche.

I like quiche as well. I think quiche is superior to frittata. Okay. Any others? Zach, did you have any others that you had that you were trying to throw around there? I was pretty tapped. But I'd quizlet the flashcard website. Yep. Also quizzes. No, he quizzes. Oh, I think quizzes are, cause it's not a test and it's never going to be graded like

a test and it's pretty quick. I kind of like a quiz. It's it's I guess I could see it from an honorable mention but no, no chance that's on. No, no, you can't pick it. But I, I always didn't hate quizzes because you're like, oh, okay, there's gonna be like what 10 questions here and it's going to be like 1% of your grade. Who cares? Queen Latifah though. Good pick. Throw a quiz at me. Queen Latifah. You said quest. Yeah, quests.

Like you can't say Queen Latifah's a terrible pick when you have quests on the board. All of Queen Latifah's movies are about her going on quests. Wait, you don't like quests? Quests is a, what does that even mean? It's a little goofy. Again, I gotta back my guy Zach though, it's a great pick. I gotta keep him back.

Queen Latifah's the best. I gotta keep his confidence I told her respect imagine if we just get like a bay hive of Queen Latifah fans and these guys just fucking crush this draft Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got Saquon and then we have Lane Johnson and Cam Jorgens awesome interviews from Eagles camp Before we get into Saquon He's brought to you by our great friends over at Morgan & Morgan. When Morgan & Morgan takes on the case, they are almost always going after the deep-pocketed insurance companies and not the individuals at fault. These corporate bullies know the name Morgan & Morgan, which makes a difference for their clients. Morgan &

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It's Saquon Barkley, Super Bowl champ. Saquon, thank you for joining us. First question that we start every Grit Week interview with is, what does the word grit mean to you? What does the word grit mean to you? What does the word grit mean to me? I feel like it's just all about having that mentality of finding ways to get through it, whether it's adversity or ups and downs, find a way to battle in. And right now we're kind of in that mentality at camp where you got to have that grit on those hot days,

on the long days in the summer. And all that stuff adds up for you to have a great year. Yeah. Can you have fun while you're being gritty? Like while things suck here in camp, is it still fun for you? Yeah, I think you have certain ways you do it. For me, it's like the competitive sides come out. So, you know, throughout the grit,

sometimes I'll just talk shit and say crazy stuff to the defense. Don't really even mean it. But it helps me get through it. It pumps them up and it just gets the juices flowing even more. Yeah. By the way, congrats on not only the Super Bowl, but Madden cover. That's pretty damn cool. Madden's coming out. Like, obviously you played it as a kid. When you found out that you're going to be on the cover of Madden where you're like, holy shit, this is insane. Yeah, I say this all the time.

Every time someone, anytime someone asks me that question, they actually ask you, do you want to be on the cover of Madden? Right. Yeah, what, imagine if you said no. Like I wonder how many people has ever. I guess the curse. Not even for the curse.

You have to, they just ask you first. And like, you have to accept being on the cover of Madden. And like, to me, I'm like, I mean, why would I ever say no? Why would I ever say no? But being on the cover of Madden and just how many guys that I grew up watching and been fans of, watching football for a very long time and to be in that fraternity now,

it's something that, my kids is gonna always be able to go back and go to this certain Madden and see their dad on it. And my nieces and nephews and my teammates seeing it. So it's cool. It's really cool. And 99 rating. 99. I don't gotta, I don't gotta go. Yeah, I don't gotta go and edit my player and make myself a 99 anymore. But this cool 99 Madden and like Madden is just like part of the culture of football

and growing up like you want to make it to NFL but you think about being a 99 overall you think about being on the cover Madden being in Madden in general. So my life been super, super amazing. Yeah. So you still play, you still play Madden? Yeah, of course. You play with yourself? I played Madden in a weird way, right? I guess it's not really that weird. But to me, I play franchise mode. I go on. I'll take a team.

I'll trade all their great players, get as many draft picks as I can, and then draft random guys and kind of make a rebuild. So that's how I play Madden. Are you playing with the Eagles? No, we're pretty good. So who are you playing with? I'll pick a random team.

What team are you playing with right now? Right now is probably either the Jets or the Rams. Okay. So you might win a Super Bowl with the Jets. So that's what I do. Like I'll get a raise. You can like scout players and you can drive and I'll get I'll get a good quarterback, good running back. And I'll basically I'll trade all the guys like any player you think on that team and get as many picks as I can and then rebuild, get a new random coach and take them to the championship. That's kind of how the Jets real GM plays Madden too. You could be the Jets GM. Hey, listen, I'm going to stay away from that.

I'm a Jets fan growing up. I'm not a fan anymore, but a Jets fan growing up. So I know the struggles, but I also know the glory days with Mark Sanchez and the boys. So I'm gonna let the let those guys be GMs. I'm gonna stick to running football a little bit. Yeah, I mean, it's big for the position of running back to have representation on the cover back to back to be like, yeah, that's right. Because it was a Christian

McCaffrey, right? So our running backs back. I don't think running backs ever left. In my opinion, I think it was just something that, you know, people have some fun with, I guess. There's one off season where it was one off season. Zoom call. Exactly. And they didn't want to pay certain guys

and they had the tag at their advantage. And I think, you know, looking at both sides is a smart thing for them to do, but it's football. You got to be able to play great defense and you got to be able to run the ball. And when you run the ball, people think about just the running back position. It takes all of us.

And you just see the two guys out here. They're a big product of that. But our offensive line, our tight ends, our scheme, you don't rush for 2000 yards by accident and it takes a group to do that. So you need to run the ball well and play great defense to be able to compete at a high level. Yeah. Have you thought about, or maybe you've done this apologizing to Joe Shane for just the fact that that clip just goes viral all the time. You kind of rubbed it in like 2000 yards. Yeah. You could have done a little bit worse. I think, you know, it's kind of on them. When you look at it from the inside, like they have to

sign off on that and make the decision for that clip to go out there. And that's what they did. But it's, it's funny because you would think from social media, like there's this big beef with me, Joe Shane and like the Giants and in reality, like we're all, you know, I still talk to them here and there before the game. I got to see all of them before the game last year at the end of the season where I had to end up playing, but I got to see them and they were super happy for me for rushing for 2,000 yards the week prior. It's a business. The NFL is a weird business.

Obviously, I'm not a fan of that side of it when it comes to the money side, but those guys were a big reason why I was able to get back. Like before I had an ACL ankle and dayage and all those guys came in and believed in me and trusted in me and kind of helped me get my swagger back in. There's a big reason why you see the type of play I am right now. Yeah. I think if the hard knocks clip didn't exist, it wouldn't be, it just was, I mean, it basically all his nightmares came true. I'm kind of happy though. It saved me. Yeah. How so? People thought like, oh, I just, you know what I mean? So you got to see it depends.

Like you have fans that, you know, they're just blinded by it. And they're just like, oh, he just left. Right. You got to see that. It's like, yes, we had a negotiated process the year before. But that year, you know, they gave me an opportunity to hit the open market, which was the right thing to do by the Giants. A lot of people don't talk about that.

Like they didn't have to do that. So for Joe Shane and all those guys over there to be like the right thing to do by him is to let him test the market. And I gave him the opportunity to match it. Obviously they felt like I wasn't worth what they thought that number was. And best thing never happened to me.

I'm here, I'm in Philly, I'm with Howie, I'm with Big Dom, with all these guys, I got the best office in the line of football. We just came off a Super Bowl win and things are continuing to go great. Yeah. Was there a part of you that thought like, is Philly really the right choice

because of that rivalry against the Giants? And obviously you're close with a lot of guys on the Giants, right? Still to this day. Yeah, no. It never, like I used to hate Philly. I tell these guys all the time. Literally the week leading the year leading in to my last year in New York.

We lost Philly in the playoffs. We lost him three times in a row. And, you know, I was tagged, so I couldn't go into the building. But I was still hang out with the guys, like offseason programs and throwing trips. And we would break it down on F the Eagles on three. Like we felt like that was a team that we needed to beat to get to the level that we wanted to get to. So the thing about me choosing and coming to Philadelphia,

like I knew I would get some backlash from some fans. But when you really we put a list, me and my family put a list of pros and cons. And the only con that stuck out was people might be upset. Yeah, I can't make, you know, decisions based on my life offer what people feel like. And I think so far it's showed that made the right decision. Yeah, I'd say so. You won. No, it's not about who won.

It doesn't go like that with just one year. For me, it's coming here one, like I wanted to expand my legacy because I feel like the player that I want to be is still out there. But the thing that I've learned coming here, like I want to be a hall of fame type of player, but this organization is outstanding. Like from top to bottom, the type of people that they have, like every section you could think of whether it's coaches, whether the staff was a training room, like they're just unbelievable people. So it's cool like winning the Super Bowls and breaking records, but like to be able to have myself attached to this organization means even more.

What you just said about like being the player that you want to be is really interesting because you've been a great running back in the league for a while, but you've, I think you've evolved too in terms of your style, like picking up new things. What's the, what's something that like when you got into the league, you made an effort to get better at a certain part of your game that maybe you weren't so strong at that's evolved yourself into what you are right now? Um, I think it's just understanding the scheme, letting the game come to me. I feel like when I was younger, I tried to force it.

And it's funny, ironically enough, last year I had the longest session runs I've ever had as a NFL player. But in the beginning, you know, last year I had the longest touchdown runs I ever had as a NFL player. But in the beginning, you know, I always trusted my speed and my athletic ability that like I knew I could make that jump cut and get to wherever hole I want to. That sometimes I would try to make something out of nothing

when there was no need. Now I was just knowing like, you know, taking that four, taking that three, and when the opportunity comes, gotta make them pay for it. Yeah, when you get outside, I feel like this last year, if you got outside, it was like, okay, he's just going to score a touchdown right now. Yeah. I got faster somehow. I'm not gonna lie. But is it really that I get super, that I get that much fast from 28 to 21? I wouldn't say not. I just got more efficient

with my movements and there's no secret to it because when I'm here training every Thursday, I'm hitting high speeds. I'm working on my mechanics every single day with Eddie and Nando and D Wood and all them and Ben and all those guys. So just the work that I put in throughout the whole season, it showed up on the field and it showed up on Sundays. And that's cool.

I think everyone gets to see the highlights, but they don't get to see the work that's put into it. How mad were your coaches when you did the hurdle? And that's cool. Everyone gets to see the highlights, but they don't get to see the work that's put into it. Yeah. How mad were your coaches when you did the hurdles? No, I think, uh, I think it's probably one of the coolest things I've ever seen. No, it was cool. Very cool play. But afterwards were they like, Hey, please don't do that again.

I don't, I don't. Oh, so you're going to do it again. Nope. I don't, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. Uh, I think that was, I don't think I know that was the biggest hit I took. Only person who I can say was really mad about the hurdle Or any hurts ever done is my mama. Okay, my mama don't like when I leave my feet

But I think hurdling is in my future again. Okay, just maybe doing it backwards Yeah, that was looking forward. I think it's just you know, I think that's a one-time thing and we and we just let it go How do you just you knew like, it was like a sixth sense. You were like, this guy's about to come here. I got this. Keep it honest. I spun, had a really good spin move and I was going to spin again.

And I realized that if you break down a clip, you could see me, I see him. And I'm like, oh, he's not going for the spin. So I kind of just let my body take over and I jumped and I just really timed that pretty well. At one of the sickest places ever. It was insane. Bad example for the youngsters out there though.

I was thinking, yeah, it is, but like I talk to my friends all the time. They don't agree with me with this one, but like, no, I'm not saying I'm Michael Jordan by any way, but like when Michael Jordan jumped from the free throw line, like in 84 or whatever it was, like that was probably one of the craziest things people seen. Now Zach Levine is East Bay and from the free throw line. So it's like, if I'm able to jump over someone backwards right now in like 20, 15, 30 years, like what are these kids like, cause if you go to, I go to my nephew's 707 tournaments, flag tournaments and like these kids are eight years old and they're, they look like they're

12 and 15 already. So it's like in 20, 30 years, like what move like we think that move is crazy. Like what is the next move someone's going to be able to do? And like it's, it's going to be a scary thing to see. Yeah. Like, like gymnastics, like Simone Biles and like backflips and shit. Yeah. Twists. Yeah. I think backwards are kind of like normal. Yeah. No, what I'm saying, like incorporating that into like football. Oh, you're going to do backflips and shit while you're listening. You won't, you won't do're going to do a backflip. Listen, you won't.

I won't do it. He's a commander's fan. So he's trying to get you. Yeah, he's after three losses in a row. I can see. Try to do it. I get it. I get it.

No, backflips. I don't even do backflips like normal. Like, you know, I know guys like, like, oh, a big play. Like, they like to do the cartwheel until that's not my thing. Yeah. Yeah. What do you listen to any of the haters like going? Obviously there are none now because you had 2000 yards, but going into this season, uh, did you, did any of that make it through? Like where it's like people like, oh yeah, Saquon's overrated and like, this is.

Yeah, you have to, I think when athletes get up here and we say that we don't see any of that stuff, like it's, that's just a lie. Like you see all of it. Sometimes you make stuff up in your head to help fuel you. Like a big thing for me is, you know, I see that I'm not going to be good next year because I was too good the year before. And running backs get older or how many touches,

like you see that stuff and it's okay. It's okay to see that. It's okay to, you know, put that in the back of your mind. But when you go out there and you play the game that you love, that can't be the reason behind it. I fell to that before. And I think that's a big reason why I was unsuccessful when I had injuries because I was going out there

trying to prove a point rather than going out there and playing a game that I love. And I get paid a lot of money to play a children's game. So you got to keep that mindset and keep the main thing that matters the most and the love and your team. But it's okay to see that stuff. And when you train and be like, okay, that's what you think. Well, I'm sure this. Yeah. Yeah. We had a guy, the dumbest guy we got. I've got the exact quote here. Yeah. He pretends he's a fantasy football expert.

He doesn't know shit. So this guy said, do not draft in all caps, say, Kwan, Barkley and fantasy, ADP average draft position. Number 10 overall is crazy. He's only rushed for a thousand and five plus yards one time in four of the last five years. Yeah. He has it in five, a thousand and five. Everyone knows a thousand and five is the benchmark.

That's the mark that you should. He hasn't had 340 plus receiving yards since 2019 blame the giants all you want. But when do we admit he's just not a great player? That was this year. That was before this season. A thousand and five yards only had done it once. Oh, he's an idiot. Yeah. He's a moron. Hey, you know what? That's the, that's why, you know, and cuz is here right now. You got to be careful what you put out on the internet because the internet is forever. But listen, this was actually like, it actually was great because I think I gave him shit. I think I tweeted every time you had a touchdown, I tweeted at him.

Yeah. And he would be sitting right in front of me and I would just tweeted him being like, you're a moron. He's like part of like that fantasy stuff, right? He thinks he is. So it's like, how if I'm a guy and I'm following you and trying to take your advice over fantasy and then you go out there and say that, you kinda lose credibility.

It's a reputation killer. Yeah, exactly. Like no one should ever listen to Stephen Che. You should say that. No one should listen to Stephen Che ever again. Yeah, no one should listen to Stephen Chase ever again. Yes, yes, yes. I don't know if you said that, but I'm serious.

That's facts. No, in all seriousness, it's just, you gotta, I think, right, and like this is what want to do when I'm done with football. I want to get on this side of it. But I think sometimes you see guys up there and they have to say stuff that's going to get clickbait. Yeah. Even if they don't really believe it.

Like you see stuff going on, like what they say about Nick Sirianni or stuff they say about Jalen now, myself. But like it's hot. Like we're the hottest team in sports right now. We just want to ask before. And when you mention our names and you say something negative about it, it's going to get views even going into last year. So I think a lot of these guys just say some stuff that they don't actually believe. So here's the problem. I agree with everything you just said. The guy we're talking about, Stephen Che, he actually is that dumb that he believed it. Yeah, no, he actually believed it. He thought you were overrated and not very good in 1000 and five yards. Again, the most important benchmark in all of

the problem is he looks smart. So I think people tend to believe him because he has glasses. So he's like, okay, I gotta trust this guy. He's a nerd. But he's a dumb nerd, which is a problem. That's where you run into problems. Numbers lie. What's the saying? Men's lie, women's lie, numbers don't. I used to believe that, but that's not true. The numbers don't always tell you what it is. And, you know, the career I had in New York, obviously we weren't great. I wasn't on great teams and I had a lot of injuries and adversity there. But sometimes just because a guy, like you'll have next year, you'll have a guy who rushes

or catches 1500 yards and a guy who catches for 1200 yards. It doesn't mean that guy is automatically better. Everyone opportunity, everyone situation is completely different. So that's why we need to stay away from, the numbers is good, but I think it's taking over, especially our sport. Um, and it just go by watching film and film doesn't lie. Um, all right. I got a random question that, uh, I just found this from 2020. You were asked, I don't know what interview it was. What are your favorite football or sports

podcast to listen to and why? And you said, I love Pardon My Take. Anytime you get different opinions, I like to hear both sides and I enjoy the arguing. Did someone feed you that or did you actually listen to the show? I think someone sent me that. Okay. Yeah. I was going to say, I was like, what? Yeah, someone definitely fed you that. Cause like anytime you get different opinions, I like to hear both sides. Like that's not, we're just idiots. I wouldn't say, listen, far from idiots. I w I think it's just like, it's a beautiful thing because you guys are just who you are.

You're just authentic to who you are. You have fun with it. It made us feel good. You really. We believed in it for a little bit. I can say that now though. I can say that confidently now. I'm a big fan of you guys.

When I read it, I was like, I don't think anybody would ever say that about our show. Yeah, right. It was like you saying I love part of my take, that's where I was like, oh shit, Saquon loves say that about our show. Right. It was like you like saying I love part of my take. That's where I was like, oh, shit, Saquon loves her. And then when I got to the second sentence, I was like, he's not listening. We can just go we can go as 2020. That's COVID year. We could blame it on COVID.

Yeah. COVID brain. Yeah. You said that. Yeah. Oh, Kenny. Yeah. It was. You said a few things about PMT. Well, listen, we're just going to, I think we have it printed out in our studio, so we're not going to take that down.

You would actually raise that. I know what happened. You were probably listening to tennis podcast and you were like, these guys are awesome. You got that confused with us. It happens. If you listen to our show, you just be like, why are these four assholes making fun of their producer for two hours? Yeah. That's, that's the takeaway from our show. It's just so funny. Anytime you get different opinions, like to your both sides, like we have the

same basic opinions on everything. Yeah, and we've been wrong a lot. But I mean, you're talking about getting into the next phase of your career and you want to do so. You said like something on the other side, whether it's commentary or whatever. Yeah. The trick is, though, like you have to figure out a way to deliver your authentic thoughts in an entertaining way. I think a lot of people get screwed up with that

and they're just like, I'm just gonna say something that's gonna get people riled up. And that's the easy way to get there. But have you thought about what that next step looks for you? Is that gonna be something that you're gonna pursue more while you're playing or are you gonna wait till afterwards? I always think it's tough, right? If you do it while you're playing, it's so tough,

especially in the markets that I've played in, New York and Philly. Yeah. It's good when you rush for 2000 yards and after games, it's easy to put a mic in front of you and say this and say that. But if you, you know, we played, what was it? Monday night or Sunday night, we played the Falcons

and I had a big drop, you know, it's not as easy to go on in front of a camera and talk about that game or what's going on during the world. No, my, the best way I put it, I can put it is Michael Strahan. Like he is literally, I just want to look at him and follow everything that he did. And he got involved a little bit of,

into this world while he was playing, but I probably going to focus a little bit more when I'm when I'm done playing. Yeah, you only get this, you know, I mean, you're right now. It's even crazy to say that. And whether it's another eight years or another two years, you never know. So I'm going to try to capitalize on this as much as I can, stay focused on this as much as I can. And opportunities come here and there. I'll take it.

But when I'm done being more so of I want to have the goofball side and be able to be on stuff like this and show my personality. That I also want to talk about stuff that's going on in the world and just really have a mixture of both. Yeah. All right. Podcast P, he got himself in one of those situations here in Philly. He was like, I'm going to stop the podcast right now

because things aren't going so well. But then the numbers came out and he was better at basketball while he was podcasting. Maybe you could be a better running back if you were podcasting. I don't think the podcast said anything to do with that. You don't think so? I disagree. What we do is some people say is harder than playing in the NFL. I'm not saying it's easy. Okay. I'm not saying and I think it's I don't think it's easy and I think it'll be harder playing and doing this at the same time. Yeah.

Why he probably that's why we don't play in the NFL. Cause we don't want to, we don't want to rob the podcast. Yeah. I feel you. Yeah. I think about it. Yes. It's like distraction. That'd be a distraction in our lives. We actually were asked to be on the mat and cover. We said no. See, I think you guys gotta be the first people to say no. Yeah, it makes sense. Cause they were like, it took too long for me to get a request it for it. Yeah. And I do remember they're like, we're, we're tending to go somewhere else. So y'all, y'all, y'all come together. Yeah, we can do it.

I mean, listen, you make up quotes and you love part of my take. We can make up quotes saying we're the Madden cover. Why? What does it matter? All right. We'll say, Kwan, this has been awesome. I got one last question. We'll do a couple of rapid fire. Yeah. A row back question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code

take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back dot com promo code take. All right. Quick. That was great. Thank you. Yeah. That's that's podcast. That's harder than jumping over somebody back. Yeah. I can close my eyes and do that. I felt the read coming. I saw it out of the corner of my eye. Let it happen. It just took over. All right, rapid fire. Do you still squat? I do still squat. What's your max?

Right now, I don't know. But I mean, if I had to go to competition, I'd probably do 650, 700. What's your absolute max that you've ever done? Probably 700. That's crazy. But I think I'm better, like a one rep max guy. So especially when they do the competition, you can wrap your knees and stuff. 700. That's crazy. I think like I'm better, like a one rep max guy. So like, especially

when they do the competition, you can wrap your knees and stuff. If I'm going against somebody and probably higher than 700. That's insane. Favorite game you played in at Penn State, Penn State versus Michigan whiteout 2017, my junior. Okay. I thought you were going to maybe say the Iowa game. Cause that was a crazy game. It was a great game. But like the environment, even though Iowa environment is great, it has nothing on a whiteout game. And like I scored a touchdown. I think I scored like in a second, third play. And I remember like,

I like did my little thing and I went to the end zone and I like just looked up and all you see is like a sea of white and everyone yelling. It almost like words can't describe like how my body felt in that moment. It was, it was insane. Yeah. The white out. They got it. They got to do it for bigger games last year. I think it was like Minnesota at noon. Yeah. Got it. Oregon this year. Yeah. Yeah. Oregon. All right. Last one. Will you guarantee over a thousand five yards this year? Well, I never guaranteed anything.

I feel like I can guarantee that God keeps me healthy that over will get smashed. Okay. You gotta get that. The 1.005K club. Yeah. Everyone talks about it. I like that. That's like the, now that's like the new dress,

dress order, I guess, right? Yeah. Or it's like, yeah, getting 500 home runs in the hall of fame and baseball, you get 1.005 K then that's a great season. Yeah. Because on that topic, I am a big believer. I was talking about this other day. I think to get in the hall of fame for NFL, they need to have something like that. It should be like a set requirement, a threshold. Yeah. But what you need for a certain position is to get into the hall. It needs to thousand five. Well, actually we shouldn't do that for you

because you've only done it twice in your entire career, which is crazy. Yeah, it's kind of you kind of stink when you put it in that respect. That ball is a bad player all around. All right. We'll say Quon Congrats on Madden. We're excited to play the game and best of luck this year. Thank you guys. Appreciate you. Say one Barkley was brought to you by Mountain Dew or great friends of Mountain Dew, by great friends at Mountain Dew. By the way, just thought of another Mount Rushmore for Q. Quads.

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Some of the work for toughness. Okay, perseverance, perseverance cam just dealing with it. Whatever you got. Terrible hot day yesterday. just losing so many pounds. Want to get home to a nice AC, get home, AC broke. That was a gritty night. That's grit. That's grit.

Grit. Sweat. Wait, how many? Complain. Yeah, that's actually- It is part of grit. Yeah. The more grit you have,

sometimes you just have to complain your way through it. But you still do it, right? Yeah. You do it. You do it, but you can be pissed off about it. Wait, how many pounds do you lose in a training camp practice? 11 yesterday. Holy shit.

That's a good diet. Yeah. How quickly do you put that back on? Sometimes you don't. No, I mean, you just have to be conscious. You have to get a lot of salt in. So just get an IV. You can get in real quick.

Yeah. How's the back feeling? Good. Good. I would say that was grit. Yeah. So the NSC championship game, you have to, you don't start, you go in second half. How on a scale of one to 10, how bad was the pain when you're going back into the game? It was high.

But at that point, you're just thinking about being gritty and not worrying about pain and just be like, all right, this is a mental thing, not a physical thing. Pain is more mental than physical. At a point, the pain subsides and you just don't feel it. Yeah. And then it's just numb. And you're like, is this better or worse?

Probably better that week leading up to the game. Did you use on a bow? Sioux ball? All practice. Yeah, practice. Yeah, same over there. Just bobbing up and down on. Wait, when he was going back in though, from your perspective,

Lane, were you was there? Did you have a conversation with him? Like, hey, like, are you? Are you good? Like, is this because you know, he's like very, very injured, but but landing gets injured. So you guys have a conversation as like a offensive line before he comes back in. Yeah, I mean, it's like if it's a nerve thing like a disc, you know, hitting

a nerve and you can't do it, which is one thing and then it's another one where it's a pain that's tolerable. So, you know, he's played a lot of football. So I kind of leave it up to him if he's good to go. We're going it up to him. If he's good to go, we're gonna rock with him. If he's not, we're still gonna rock with him and, you know, get prepared for when he returns. Yeah. So that week leading up to did you just think like there's no chance I can go?

Uh, I mean, every single day, I'm just like, all right, yeah, I'm gonna try to do my best to get ready and play. And yeah, every day, it's just like, wake up. I don't know about this. And then you just kind of work through it. It's a lot of self doubt. Wait, what was the actual injury? Was it a nerve thing? Yeah, I just had a, you know, a herniated disc

and then it broke off, got wrapped around my nerve. So it's just messing up my leg. Yeah, I've had one of those and I just laid on the floor for two days. Kind of goes down your leg. Yeah, and I told my wife, I was like, just shoot me right now. If I had a gun, shoot me. You played in the floor for two days. Kind of goes down your leg. Yeah, and I told my wife, I was like, just shoot me right now. If I had a gun, shoot me.

You played in the NFC championship game. I barely podcast it. Yeah. Yeah, I had one. You did. I did. They came over to my house and we podcast. I was just laying on the ground.

I've had one for the last month or so. I canceled a vacation, which is I think that's kind of gritty, right? Being like, I don't need to take this time off. I'm going to stay here and work on my body. And then I tried to play golf through it, and that was even too much. I can't need to take this time off. I'm gonna just stay here and work on my body. And then I tried to play golf through it and that was even too much.

I can't imagine like actually having to run and move around and shove people with it. I think it'd be gritty going on vacation and just complaining and hating vacation. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, the worst vacation of all time. That is actually very gritty thing to do.

Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, good to see that you're healthy, that you're feeling good. How's camp been? It's been good. Entertaining hot. Uh, yesterday was pretty hot. The first few days was actually nice. Like condition test. And then, uh, yesterday was kind of wake up call outside. So how is it different? Obviously, Cam, this is the first time you're coming

to a camp after winning a Superbowl lane your second time. Is it a different vibe being champions and like having to kind of, you have to like start, start fresh, you know, and it's like what we did last year doesn't matter for this year. Is it hard to get over that or people treat you different for what you accomplish? But I think when you look at why you accomplish what you accomplish is because of your routine and structure. So if all this praise or whatever you're

getting this cause you need to change those habits and yeah, probably things are going to be different in the the the problem the next year. You know? Yeah. Feel like you guys have a line coach that won't let you get too high off that, right? No, I don't know. I don't know what gets him.

I mean, maybe him fishing on a jet ski on his off day gets him happy rather than that. He's pretty, he's pretty gritty. Yeah. It's just, you know, when you get back into camp, it's just, it's like locking yourself in a room and just getting football nonstop 24 seven. You're just so focused on today.

You don't know what day it is. You don't know what yesterday or tomorrow is. You're just like, all right, long day, long day, full days. After you guys talking about it, I can just imagine going home to no air conditioning. That's the worst end to that day possible, right? Yeah.

Just like take a cold shower. And it's just, you're learning everything you're gonna need for the whole year, all wrapped up in one month of just like brutal, you know, hellish camp, you know, or fall camp. It's like a- It's a lot of plays too. So, you know, you're not necessarily gonna have

all these plays in per week, it changes, but install everything all at once. And so yeah, it's a lot all at one time. I would love to see if like the working man and everybody out there in the real world, just like everybody had a fall camp, you know, a month. You know. You should do that.

I like that. Yeah. Camp Parch works getting done. Podcasting shape. Did you guys follow along when they were voting on the tush push? Were you like actually tuned in or just like, hey, whatever happens happens?

Well, I knew that there was a deadline for the vote and I was, yeah, I was, I was waiting. I was like, it's, it's a goner. No, I wasn't tuned in. I feel like they voted on it like three times. It's just like every month. They're like, they're voting on it again. Yeah. And also I think the vote like went down where it was the majority of teams that voted to ban it were your opponents this year. So they're like trying to basically get it out because they know they have to play you guys.

Hey, I wanted Tom Brady, the one that played a Gronkowski out, but hey, they kept doing it. Yeah. Was that weird hearing the owner describe maybe the suckiest play for you guys as being like a wet dream? It was interesting.

That was hilarious. That was hilarious. I gave him a fist bump next time I saw him. That was funny. Yeah, because it's an awesome play, but for the offensive line, it's probably not the most fun play to do. No, no.

And like the worst part is when you're running the play and it's like fourth down or third down or whatever, and you run it and then you just get piled on top and you're just down there. You don't know what's going on. And all of a sudden you're getting yelled at to get up out of the pile. It's like, hey, get up, get up. We've got to run another play. I'm like, Oh,

so we got the first down or like what? Like, Kind of don't know for like, seems like you don't know what's going on. The ref's moving bodies out. I don't know what ball he moved. Frank, you love would jump out on your back a couple of times. Yeah. Yeah. That was, but I like that strategy. They're in a bad spot because they come off late and late to the party. You know, it's not good. But you're trying to time it. So it's right. So whole issue. Cam, I was reading a story about when you got drafted. How did you find out that you got drafted? I got a call. But like it was during the draft day, there was like a severe storm that just rolled in in Nebraska. We're in tornado alley, you know,

Lane knows about that from Oklahoma. And you're just like tornado comes or whatever. And dude, yeah, the TV kept going out. We kept going from upstairs to downstairs, like figuring out what TV is going on. We're trying to get on our phone. Like, oh, it was chaotic. And I finally got a call and like our TV was way off.

And I finally got a call and like our TV was way off and I finally got a call and got drafted. I was fired up. You guys were trying to get me to get on a zoom call with all the media. And I'm like, guys, I got nothing out here. I can't, I can't do no interviews right now. I mean, I'm in the basement about to go crawl under fricking pool table. Yeah. It's a great origin story though. Like I got drafted during a tornado. It's like, yeah, that's a hit of a draft. How we knew instantly he's like, yep,

that guy's gonna be awesome. It feels like that anyway, the whole process does. You don't know what you're gonna get swept away to. You get here, it's like a tornado all over again. Yeah, I got a question about Nebraska. Scott Frost, I thought that was gonna work. I think everybody thought it was gonna work. That really wasn't a fairytale.

More of a statement, but yeah, I really thought it was going to work. So he was his second year through his fifth year you were there. It felt like you guys were about to turn the corner a bunch of times, and it just never happened. Yeah, I feel like every game, we just found ways to lose games. We had good players, and we played really well.

But then it's just like, we just found ways to lose it. And we were really good at that. You know, I never made a bowl game in college and then I get to the league. And years and we were you were you part of the team that there was that one year where you guys lost by like three points every single game. Yeah, yeah, it was like seven or eight losses within like, yeah, it was insane. It was like it was like Nebraska's looking good today. And then the fourth quarter would come along around and something insane

would happen. You're like, well, there's the game. Not all losses are the same. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think maybe Rayola should start dressing up like Jalen Ertz instead? Yeah. I mean, do something, you know, when I guess they're both winners, both guess. Yeah. They're both winners. They're both winners. Yeah. All we need to do is win. And you know, they made the first bowl game and several years. So I was happy to see that. So this year playoffs are bust.

So your teammate, Ty Johnson, he's a, he's a Nebraska guy too, right? Does he actually own a camel? Is that true? I think it is. I mean, he went to Nebraska, but he's Arizona guy. And there's not camels in either, but go on. I think, yeah, I don it is. I mean, he went to Nebraska, but he's Arizona guy. And there's not camels in either, but go on. I think. Yeah, I don't know.

I've really been out in Arizona. They probably got camels. They got Camelback Mountain out there. I know that because I trained out there. I got camels. We got cattle. Yeah, I don't know. Smoking camels. Oh, I always wonder this. The Super Bowl, obviously, we talked to you that week right before. I think we this, the Super Bowl, obviously, Liam, we talked to you that

week right before, I think we saw you at the hotel cam. What point in the Super Bowl victory we like is it it's over because it was down to Devante. So what was that score? Was that 34? I think it was that touchdown at Devante where it went 34 to whatever six. Yeah. And then you're like, Oh, that's a little bit more points than the Patriots or the Falcons had that year. Maybe they can't. Yeah. Yeah. I did the math and I was like, they can't come back because I mean, like the Super Bowls, you know, when we were growing up in the nineties, there were always blowouts. But the last, you know, 20 years have been really competitive. And then you have a game like that. It feels like the whole second half, you guys almost are like get to party because you're like, we're in the Super Bowl and it's a lot. Yeah, a lot different than the other ones we were in for sure. Yeah. And shout out Kenny for throwing a pass because I had that bet over one and a half or over two and a half players out out to attempt to pass. Yeah, that was huge. That was huge. Shout out Kenny. That's overlooked. That was a big pass.

I did not think you guys were going to pass in that situation. You guys were either of you in the game at that point. I don't think I was. No, that's got to be so awesome. It should be on the sideline for like just being like, let this quarter take forever because we just celebrate, celebrate. Yeah, I mean, it was like every game.

I mean, the last Super Bowls are just back and forth neck and neck. And yeah, we're not used to being in those situations, I guess. But it was cool. Yeah. Do you think Jalen enjoyed the Super Bowl? Because I feel like a lot of his quotes,

he's already, he's going heavy on turning the page. Do you think he actually enjoyed winning the Super Bowl? I don't know, I haven't seen him put on his ring yet. So he enjoyed it. Yeah. Did you guys hit the button for the, for the eagle flag to come over? Yeah. When I feel really good, I'll press the button. Yeah. Yeah. Did you guys hit the button for the for the eagle flag to come? Or yeah, when I'm feeling really good, I'll press the button.

Yeah. Yeah. Does it make it does it make your old Super Bowl feel like less important because the ring is so much bigger on this new one? Yeah. The feelings got hurt that night. You guys put hydraulics in the new ring. It's crazy. Yeah. A lot bigger. Just yeah, it was huge. So after you guys win, what was it like? Did you celebrate in New Orleans?

Yeah. Yeah. There was a casino right across the street. Yeah. And all week we couldn't go because you're not supposed to go to casinos. What'd you do after? On a road trip. But after the game, season's over,

we can go to the casino. Obviously most of the team was over there. So we all celebrated together. So we were seeing Big X, the plug, Jeff Ross, just a lot of different moving parts at that celebration. I was just, well, he's here. He's here. So that was pretty cool.

Did you guys watch the halftime show? No. You didn't go back and watch it? Uh-oh. That was a wild halftime show. Yeah. It was wild? Yeah.

I mean, who was it a couple years ago? Was it the kicker for the Bengals that? Yeah. Harrison. Yeah. Another Bengals. yeah, yeah Bengals Befierce McPherson he went out a half time and watch That like kickers can probably get away with doing something like that

But at the same time you probably like everybody to be in the lot Yeah, like offense like we usually have like a you know board meeting like right before we go out So everybody's like they're in their chairs. So somebody's miss is like where the hell's he at? Did you guys make any adjustments or was it just like, Hey, you guys are kicking ass. Just continue to beat the shit out of them. I mean, it wasn't like I said, it wasn't that moment. Didn't sink into like the Devante catch, but it was really full

go till then. Just because losing that thing the first time to him by three, whatever that that emotion was stronger than winning the thing like we did. I mean, you'll never forget that loss like that. It was terrible. Yeah. Had her turf this time. Yeah, I mean actual turf. Yeah. No, was it grass? I can't remember. Was it turf? No, it's turf. Turf. Yeah. Yeah. They couldn't mess with it. What? What week this season? Do you

think Nick Sirianni would be on the hot seat? You never know with this fan base. Yeah. Max is probably thinking like week four or five, you start two and two, he's going to be like, got to fire the guy. Slow first quarter. Usually it's pretty hot. The takes are like that till you get to November and it kind of dies down.

Yeah. Yeah. That happened last year and that's when we took off. Yeah. It is kind of crazy when you look back because you guys were what, two and two to start the season kind of some questions lingering from the previous year. And was it that game in New Orleans when you when the big play at the end

of the game? Who was that Dallas? Yeah. And it feels like from that point on, you guys were just dominating teams. So yeah, could you feel that you're like everything just takes a little bit like find, you know, a few weeks, you get to do different different things off mentally and you see kind of what clicks and kind of what a little bit like find, you know, a few weeks you get to do different different things offensively and you see kind of what clicks and kind of what a rhythm should be. And then yeah, at that point it started. It started becoming consistent. Do you lane? Do you get veteran

days off during camp? I haven't yet. Okay. Will you get them? Hopefully. Do the other guys cam you can just pretend he's not here. Is he a pussy for taking those days off? No. OK. But you definitely look at a little side-off. I feel if I take those days off, I'll get some bad looks. It's like being at the line at Disney World. You got the Fastpass. And I waited five hours here.

We're slaying today. Yeah, exactly. It's a weird feeling in general. You've probably earned it. But the mentality that got you to a place that earns it is like, I don't want to take any days off. Yeah, but it's just the fact know what I rather not practice and take all these looks from all my teammates. Hey, why does he

do that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe maybe you're getting the rest. The line plays really good. Jalen puts up great stats in practice. I know you're a big fan of keeping stats during training camp and evaluating players that way. Yeah, I think it's I think it's hilarious people coming out like stats like whatever we're just practicing to get better. Yeah, we don't know. It's a slow way. We're doing an interception drill. Yeah, yeah exactly. They don't know that. Maybe they're just trying to draw attention to that away from the Epstein thing you know when it passes. Yeah, we were 7'4", 11'5",

just training camp. We're not focused on that stuff. That's true. I did have a moment the other day where like I'm starting to maybe at 40 years old getting mature because I saw like it was like Bears interception for don't convert fourth and 15 in training camp. And I was like, fuck, I was like, wait a second. What? Why am I upset? But you do, you can't, you do nothing to talk about right now. So it's like the offense is humming or the defense is dominating.

Yeah. But yeah, the anticipation is building and Hey, it's just you got to, it's got to get out somehow. Yeah. Talk about it. What was it last summer? Was it that Jalen Hertz was throwing too many interceptions or that he wasn't throwing enough? It was an interception for like so many days. There's a non-interception streak. Yeah, that was a problem. That was a big problem. Yeah, because you want your guy taking risks. You gotta drive the ball down field. It's too conservative. That's why we hit the interception drill early.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So Cam, before you moved to center, you were playing next to Lane. What was it like playing next to a Hall of Famer and being like, this guy is just so good at everything? And were you just confident that no matter what, he's got you every single time?

We're probably asking, what's the play about 80% of the time? Yeah. Yeah. It was mostly like, hear the play, hear the call. And then Lane's like, what do we got? What's the snap count? It was great because when you're playing next to somebody for so long, you just formulate your own language

with each other so we could just say a lot with very little words. Like, I could be like, what, and I'll be like, hmm. Yeah, nod nod nod. It's kind of, yeah. Wait, I saw that. Obviously you got the 99 in the Madden rating. Congrats.

What an honor that is. But they only had you as a 93 on pass block finesse. What's up with that? Pass block finesse. I guess my first question is what is pass block finesse? I know there's finesse in the run game, but I don't know. I guess, I don't know. I don't know what that is.

Is that like looking good? Yeah. Well, finesse is like means you're getting the job done, but in like a kind of pussy type of way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've had pussy moments where I've getting bull rushed. So I don't know, maybe it's from that. I don't know.

Do you think about those pussy moments? Yes. I mean, that's all coach was to talk about. You don't know. They don't talk about the good stuff. It's only, I saw you stumble there in your battle there. Let's talk about it. Is there one that sticks out to you from your career

that you find yourself to no matter the athletes that get put on you, the Super Bowls you win, you're like, that guy really bitched me that one time. Kerrigan had some like my first couple years in league. There was another there's a strip cycle in Sanchez. One of those years when I was 15, I was like this motherfucker here. And now I still get to see him on the sidelines. Yeah. Washington coaching.

So I can't get this guy. I can't leave the damn field. He's there every time we play him. Yeah, but definitely Kerrigan. Yeah. Kim, who's the hardest guy that you had to block last year? Dexter Lawrence. Yeah.

What is it about him? Just the size, strength? Size, strength. You know what's coming and he still can't. He plays with such good leverage. He's just so wide. This SWAT team door just hitting you. It's what it feels like.

Just big ass over and over. Who's got the best hands? Ooh. What do you mean? No, no, the best hands like on a defensive line that you have to go up against. Ooh. I mean, when Fletch was here, Fletch had some strong hands.

Yeah. Can you feel it? Like the difference between- Yeah. There's game strength and there's weight room strength. And there's a difference. Yeah. Yeah. There's between? Yeah, there's game strength and his weight room strength. There's a difference. Yeah. Yeah. There's ability. Some guys are stronger movements without able to express it like on the football field. And there's some guys aren't very strong weight room, but they can, you know, farm strong.

So it's you get to see it all really. I'm sure you guys are farm strong, right? Are you guys city boys? Yeah, I got a little bit of city slicker strength in me. Yeah, you're you're you were doing pass block sets against bulls. Yeah. Yeah. That was a great video. My dad just put me out there.

That was such a funny video. That's how I learned. And then people were like, yeah, this is what he does. This is how he trains. And you're like, you're Rocky going up to Siberia. Yeah, no, that was an all time funny video. Cause I feel like the bull knew

that he was doing a pass set. Yeah. He was a little skittish, a little scared. Yeah. We got to get some more bulls. Yeah. How's the jerky business going? It's going good. Yeah.

Going good. You know, got some flavors, five flavors. Honestly, it's my favorite jerky in the world. I love it. And it's something I enjoy doing. You know, I grew up with my dad going deer hunting and making deer jerky and all sorts of that. So now to have a jerky company, pretty cool, pretty gritty. Yeah. And so, yeah, just trying to sell some.

We've got some good stuff in the works. We're excited for the season. Yeah. What flavors are we cooking with now? My favorite is mango habanera. Crack pepper is really good. And then you got your original, your teriyaki, and we got a hot honey.

Are you giving it free to the rest of the guys? We don't have a ton in stock right now. Oh no. Right when you get it in there, it just gets eaten right away. It's gone? Yeah. Yeah.

Especially now with all the numbers, we got a lot of guys in the room. Yeah. But really, you get the rookies in there, and rookies are supposed to supply the snack. So I'm going to start having the rookies buy my jerky for the room. That's smart. So I'm gonna tell them that today. Yeah, that is smart back in your pocket. Is it, is it tough?

A training camp? Like obviously there's, you know, starts with 90 guys. You know, there's some guys that are not going to be there. Is it tough, like not getting too close or forming relationships with guys being like you might get cut Like how does that work? We're just I don't know how it works We just go to lunch and dinner and and yeah, like it's all normal and then and then one day There's no guys don't come to breakfast the next morning really yeah

Or are you like you see somebody like lift and then they get done with the workout and all of a sudden you're getting ready For practice he's his lockers cleared out. I see the Grim Reaper coming around like lift and then they get done with the workout. And all of a sudden you're getting ready for practice. He's, his locker's cleared out. You see the Grim Reaper coming around with his clipboard and his glasses. That's gotta be weird, but that's probably smart to like not think about it too much because thinking about it too much is weird.

Get too attached to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You guys just usually don't get a chance to say bye to each other or do they have a show? It's not even just that. It's like even like the Superbowl teams, like so many

teams get picked up a free agency. Yeah, some guys don't come back to the ring ceremony coaches disappear. It's just everybody disperses. Yeah, so different. Yeah, I'll get cut and then get brought back and then cut and brought back. So like you can say goodbye, but you might see him next week. Right? You don't want to double goodbye.

Yeah, that's awkward. It's awkward. Yeah, even like in a position you guys are at where your jobs are safe Like if how he says hey, I want to talk to you or you like, oh fuck Like you never know. Yeah, you never know. Do you ever talk to howie? Yeah What's he like? He seems like a sharp guy Sharp he uh, man, he's pretty busy in the weight room now. I just saw him in there. Oh shit Yeah, he's getting a lift. Okay. Well, he's been he's been shoulders are looking big. Yeah, he's been he's been pretty consistent past a year

So, alright, okay. All right. Well, this has been awesome been. He's been. Shoulders are looking big. Yeah, he's been. He's been pretty consistent past few years. Alright, okay. Um alright. Well, this has been awesome guys. I got one last question. Row back question RHOBACK.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code take. Uh what did what did Saquon get you guys for present last year? And was it good? I mean which pretend he's not in the room right now. Multiple. Yeah. What do you get you guys over for 2K?

2K? We got a Rolex. Oh, nice. You guys are just saying that that he owes everything to you guys. Yeah, everything. Yeah. Yeah. So probably should have been more than a Rolex, right?

We can't tell time good enough as it is. All right. Well, thank you, boys. This was awesome. Best of luck this year. Appreciate you guys stopping by. Yes sir, thanks for having us. Happy Grit Week. Yeah, happy Grit Week. I feel honored. Scott Frost. Still thought that would work. Okay, great show boys.

Thanks to our friends at the Eagles for giving us a first-class day. We brought Big Dom... how many cannolis? We brought him like... Well, we bought two dozen cannolis, I think. I thought that story. It was very funny. And then we might have eaten a dozen. Twelve. We ate twelve. No, we ate ten of them. Nose.

And then we didn't want to give him a second box with only two cannolis in it Cuz that's rude well, so then we had to eat the other we're also missing part of the story where we went to In South Philly we went to a bakery at like 10 in the morning to get cannolis and then Max you came back in the car, which was a great move because it was incredible, but it was like two full pizzas That was that was mostly security Mike's doing yeah, he was like those were so We're just stuffing our face with cheesesteak pizza at like 10 30 in the morning And then washing it down with Big Dom's cannoli

So I try to take my wallet out to pay for all this stuff because the cheesesteak pizza was incredible and Mike Physically pushed me out of the way, and he's a PFT you go. Let me's like PFT you go let me pay for this one please let me pay for this one he's like okay Mike you got it all you and then once memes found out that Mike was paying for it memes then goes off and orders like another pizza three more pastries he's like yeah put that on Mike's tab he really ran it up on his villain arc I like it mm-hmm I show all the memes heads out there said try the hot honey yeah and then I I tried the hot honey by the way later that day memes is like let's get on this plane Let's get on this fucking plane

Day by memes uh I regret even talking about that story that was a mistake People were like we don't fucking care which I actually said at the beginning It's the least yeah, yeah time probably should have happened off air. Yeah, we probably should have that. I should that's the beauty of the show. Yeah, that is just hash it out alive memes You mentioned hot honey. I was thinking about this this weekend When did hot honey become a thing because it's basically the best invention like I know it's probably been around for a long time But in terms of popular like you order a a pizza from anywhere and you can add hot honey. I saw it in stores back in 2009, I think. Okay. And it's, uh, it's

so good. But I'm saying like on, like when you order a pizza. Yeah. Not like like he knew the band before everyone else. I think it was like COVID. It's so good. It, what a great addition to everything. Hot honey. Fucking love it. I remember seeing it during COVID in my local pizzeria and then it just exploded. Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. Should we do numbers? I'm going 60 for my dad's birthday. Oh, you motherfucker. I'll go three.

You're throwing that at us. It's his birthday. Happy birthday. I'll go three. No, you took three take 22 I'll take 15 memes wins this it should go to his dad. It shouldn't count for you. That's a fact.

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