Pardon My Take - SB Champ Chris Jones, Josh Allen, XFL And The Oscars
Episode Date: February 10, 2020Football is back, sort of. We liked week 1 of the XFL and some of the funky new rules (2:14 - 13:17). PFT had to put Rovell in line and Duke/UNC was an instant classic (13:17 - 18:29). Who's back of t...he week including Oscars and Bobby Knight returns to Indiana (18:29 - 28:56). Super Bowl Champ Chris Jones joins the show to talk about Super Bowl 54, the post party, the time his dick flopped out of his underwear at the combine and more (28:56 - 51:45). Our friend Buffalo Bills QB Josh Allen joins the show to talk about his second season in Buffalo, the famous playoff game lateral and more (51:45 - 70:16). Segments include way to stay relevant baseball, Russ Wilson photoshoot roast with a tangent on NYC wildlife, and ass eating season with Phil Fulmer and we say nice things about Tennessee.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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studio, telling us what it was like in Kansas City after the big win, telling us how his
life has changed, also maybe partied a little too hard, but that's no fault of his own.
We also have our good friend Josh Allen, the rocket arm on the show, and we talk a little
XFL, a little Duke UNC, a little way to stay relevant baseball, some tangents in the segments,
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Today is Monday, February 10th, XFL Week 1.
And with 13 minutes and 9 seconds left in the second quarter, the DC Defender kicker
Tyler Rousa from 35 yards, the kick is up, and it is, no, good, no good.
And that is your most important highlight of the weekend, so welcome to Part of My Take,
we had the XFL this weekend, we're going to talk everything else, but it was probably
the biggest story of the weekend, I think anytime one of these football leagues debuts,
it is the biggest story for at least one weekend, I enjoyed it.
The XFL was, I thought it was really fun, now I watched obviously all of the first game,
I was in DC for it, the crowd was electric, the crowd was ready for some football, who
knows how the XFL is going to go, if it's going to be like a season long fascination
or if it's going to be like the AAF last year where it was the first two weeks, we're
like, yeah, let's go football, and then it died out, but it seemed like the rules were
just drunk enough in the XFL where it could work out, and I'm going to say like the atmosphere
in DC at Audi Field was better, it was more fun than any Redskins game that I've been
to in the last like 20 years.
Well, so the quarterback play actually weirdly was better for the DC defenders than it had
been for the Redskins for the last 20 years too, Cardell Jones was good.
He was really good, and I thought that, that was a surprise to me, I don't know if he was
going to be good or not.
He was definitely the guy to watch because all the other quarterbacks weren't so good.
So I went into it, I've said it on Friday show, I'm nervous because I went into AAF
thinking, oh my God, this is going to be great, and then got my heart broken.
I've done this dance before, so I went into it cautious, but I did enjoy it.
I thought it was watchable, better than the AAF.
There's definitely some things that are weird that they have to fix, but there's also some
things that will be in the NFL soon.
Like the kickoff rule is cool.
I like the kickoff rule.
The extra points where it's one, two, and three, I love that you can go for three now
because it extends games, and it also gives situations where Mark Trussman can kick a
field goal when the team actually is only down two scores, so he kicked a field goal
to go down two scores to go down two scores, not realizing that you can go for three and
get nine points.
But I also like it how on those extra points you've got, any time you can have three different
colored lines superimposed on the field is awesome.
Yes.
There's two, there's three, there's, or what, from the two yard line, it's one point, from
the five, it's two points, from the ten, it's three points, is that how it works?
Yeah.
I don't know why anybody would ever go for one.
The math is tough.
If you go for one, you should have to wear a scarlet letter.
Everyone went for one because it was like perfect.
It was basically giving these football coaches, and that's actually a great thing to watch
is all these football coaches that have been cast aside for a while.
Kevin Gilbride was coaching the Guardians.
He hasn't coached since 2013, kind of thrown out to pasture.
So now he's back trying to get back into it, and he's still doing conservative things
to try to save his job.
It's just one point.
Yeah, it's great to watch these guys.
You don't get fired if you go for one.
Jerry Glanville's got two headsets on, ultimate football guy move.
He was 69ing the headsets because one has the mouthpiece on one.
I got to listen in on some of the play calls that were going on in the DC game, like during
the actual play, because the coaches can still, you know, they're talking to each other.
They were just playing on the broadcast too.
During the actual plays?
Yeah, they would sometimes play like what they were saying.
Yeah, so during the plays it was awesome hearing Pep Hamilton yelling at Cardale for making
the wrong decision.
He's like, throw it away, throw it away.
God damn it, Cardale.
It was actually very interesting to hear the crowd was having a great time.
It seemed like everybody was like, it was almost like a company Christmas party in the
stands where everybody was just like a little bit tipsy going into it and not really taking
it super seriously.
But just there to have fun.
I also credit the XFL.
They did a good job with the jerseys.
I like the jersey colors.
They're just like good enough where you can see it as not a complete clown league.
You know what I mean?
Like I even like the Vipers.
I thought their helmets were cool.
The dragons.
The Vipers.
No, I like the colors.
It was just enough.
No, here's my problem with the Vipers helmet.
It had like notes of the Seattle Seahawks.
Yeah.
But it was almost like a little bit of barf pea soup.
No, I was.
It got tampered down.
I was cool with it.
So the helmets, the jerseys look cool.
Some things I didn't like.
Mark Treston is just just triggering me the whole time.
I told you.
I didn't.
I thought there were too many interviews on the sideline.
That's that's something they're going to have to figure out because it was a little
too much.
Like I didn't really need to hear from a guy who like ran a slant and caught a pass for
10 yards.
Like how'd that go?
So that was a little too much.
I like that they're getting in the game.
They also have to figure out a way.
So they went up to the replay booth a bunch and it sounded like I had, you know, went
up like two flights of stairs.
Just everyone's breathing super heavy into the mic.
So I like the transparency, but that's a little thing that they'll probably have to
fix.
But overall, I'd give it it's far better than the AF.
I don't know if it's going to succeed because as I've always said, tell me how it does when
we get to March Madness, when we get to the Masters and NBA and NHL playoffs.
But as of right now, I thought it was good.
I actually, I had more fun at that game on Saturday than I've had in a very long time
regardless.
I know I compared to FedEx Field, which is like comparing, you know, a diamond to a piece
of shit because FedEx Field is by far the worst stadium I think in all of the National
Football League.
But just being at that game, it was, um, it was fun.
It was exciting.
And that's all that we want out of extra football, bonus football, and it was fun, even though
the over the football itself wasn't great.
That's okay.
I do some about the overs.
Yep.
Yeah.
No, I, I, people got very mad at me because I said, uh, in jest, it was a bad beat.
It was beautiful that we started a league with a bad beat on the over in the DC defenders
game.
I said, cancel the league, not fun.
And I always forget that like there are some people who will take everything very seriously
and also take football that seriously were like, fuck you.
Why would you bash my league that I've loved for one day when I was very much in jest because
the next game went over and I was like, you know what, leagues back on.
Listen, I'm a, I'm a lifelong XFL fan.
I'm a day one DC defenders guy.
So I guess the, the, the big test is, will you go out of your way to watch games?
Cause that's really what it comes out to me.
I think I will watch games if I'm sitting there and it's like, oh, okay.
It's like, I found myself even today.
I watched the Wisconsin basketball game and then I was like, oh yeah, there's a game on.
Let me flip over and I watch it for a little bit.
But will you build your weekend around it?
I don't, that doesn't pass that test yet.
Well, it passed this one test earlier today.
I was at a, I was at a bar, I was eating lunch and they had the UMass game on the basketball
game.
I think it was UMass, George Mason, which is like asterisks.
Is that really?
No, it is.
Yeah.
And the bartender heard like a request from somebody at the end of the room.
It was like, oh yeah.
Okay.
She goes up to the TV, changed it to the XFL.
This is like, that's, that's the beginning.
This is like, this is like political Twitter when people make up like my five year old
just asked me.
It was the wave.
What does Medicare for all mean?
I was in a hipster.
You're, you're the football politician making up stories.
I was in a, I was in a hipster coffee shop.
Viper fan.
No, it actually, it actually did happen that, that they changed it to the, I don't think
the person gave you.
No, I know, I know.
About the vipers.
I'm just kidding.
I love those stories on Twitter.
It was like, oh yeah.
I'm in a hipster coffee shop and all the former liberals are talking about how much they love
Donald Trump.
Yeah.
That's essentially the story I told, but it was true and it's the start of a wave.
I don't know how, how we're going to look at this league in two months time.
But what I do know is that this weekend there was football on TV.
Yeah.
As opposed to.
I liked it.
Maybe they're not being football.
No, I liked it.
And I, I feel like we're taking the, the mature approach versus last year when we lost our
mind about the AAF.
You're right.
Forgot about it a week later.
So this is the.
We've been hurt before.
Yeah.
I like it.
I will watch it.
If I'm around and sitting there, I, I don't, I, again, come March Madness, we'll see.
That will be the big test.
The XFL better than the NFL already.
Wow.
Who's to say?
Maybe.
It also would just, if they just had like one or two more guys, I know that they can't
like waste all their money on, on, you know, names, but if Tebow or Capron, that's what
I've been saying.
Or Manziel.
Like they're, they just, because like I actually watched the first game because it was on and
I was watching it anyway, but Cardale Jones is one of those guys I even tweeted was like
Cardale Jones, he'll make plays.
You're like, why didn't he turn out?
Why isn't he better than he, than he is?
I think Cardale Jones has only played like only started 12 games.
No, he's, he has not lost the start since high school.
Yeah.
That's, but anybody's only started like over 13 games, right?
Came in and released.
He's football younger than Mitchell Trabisky is.
Yeah.
So I, I watch him and I'm always baffled like that guy's got an arm.
He makes plays and then he'll do something stupid.
I'm like, okay, that makes sense, but he's someone you tune in to watch for.
I don't, they need like one or two more of those guys to really compel me to be like,
okay, I got to be in front of the TV for this game.
Two thirds of the golden triangle.
If you had a Kaepernick, Tebow, Manzell, if you had two thirds of those people are going
to tune in and watch toss an RG three to the, maybe Jay Cutler, come back.
Jay Cutler.
He's always working on handball now.
Maybe Joe Burrow, Alex to be drafted by the XFL, Trevor Lawrence, skip your last year Clemson
played for the Vipers.
Who knows?
All of these things could happen.
You were talking about up in the replay booth, how it's a lot of just old men be like, just
breathing directly in.
And a guy holding an Xbox controller.
Which is sweet.
Yeah.
Very sweet.
That has gamer for life.
He looked like Xbox to like one.
I think he was playing Halo in between quarters.
Originally like offline.
Yeah.
Not connected to the internet.
Yeah.
So what they should do is they should just put like a filter on them so they sound like
pilots and then have top gun going in the background, like the music that da, da, da.
They could buy an ad space.
Yeah.
Roger.
That looks like we're going to spot the ball on the 42 yard line.
It's a sunny day.
And break, break it back to you guys down the field.
Like that'd be cool to have.
Yes.
That little like dynamic going on up there.
I agree.
So the other story we have out of the XFL, by the way, you can watch us barstoolgold.com
slash PMT.
We got Chris Jones and Josh Allen coming up.
You versus Darren Ravel.
Yeah.
Well, I listen.
You got mad.
Darren came at me.
Sometimes you have to send a message that you're not to be fucked with and maybe I went
a little bit too far.
What did he say?
Yeah.
What did he say?
Darren, Darren played dress up this morning for the, for the XFL guardians, the hated
guardians.
Darren made fun of the fact that you got cut from the XFL.
Yeah.
He played dress up and not funny and they let him put on a little uniform and act like
he was a football player and then he was like one journalist and get cut.
And yeah, Darren's because you aren't athletic enough to actually try out.
And so I had to come at him and basically make fun of the fact that he's never given
a woman an orgasm.
There we go.
And which he did not dispute.
That was the first time, you know how before you tried out, you're like, Hey, I actually
want to make this team not like ironically, I want to make this team.
That really hammered it home when you went at Darren Ravel and you were actually mad
and was like, you know what, well, PFT have his back because guess what Ravel?
It's not funny, dude.
He came at me first.
It's not fucking funny, man.
You got to send a message sometimes and let people know that you still got it.
You know, nice to see they let you have a jersey number honoring the amount of original
ideas you've ever had multiplied by the number of times you've successfully located a clitoris.
Got him.
Yeah.
Got him.
Facts only.
And then and then his response was actually I've had several original ideas.
The clitoris might be zero then.
Nice job, Ravel.
Looks like I got him.
Also they missed a 35 yarder as we dressed in the fast.
Yes.
Two minutes.
So that was a very funny moment.
But then he made a 55 yarder and it's like, OK, that makes sense.
Why?
But that's not my job.
Yeah.
When he I'm not I'm not a distance guy.
I'm not a show off.
When he missed a 35 yarder, I actually was I had a moment where I was kind of pissed.
I was like, what the fuck?
Why is PFT not in this league?
And then he bombed a 55 yarder like shit.
That's probably why it was great because yeah, he can kick more than 35.
But who knows.
But he missed 35.
Also got the hobnob with some of the some of the brass, the XFL brass on the sidelines
there.
And the dream might not be over.
Oh, yeah.
The dream might not be over.
OK.
So they're just keeping you around to put you on ice.
I was really hoping that Jim Zorn was going to run a swinging gate play just to be like
just a stick it to the City of Washington.
Also no double pass.
No double pass.
That's that goes along the same lines as the coaches being afraid to go for two or
three.
Yep.
It's like there's a new rule that you can take advantage of that's probably going to
look awesome on the Skycam.
Just please somebody try it.
Yes.
Yes.
So that was the XFL.
We have who's back before we do that.
Should we talk a little bit Duke UNC, which was awesome.
The rivalry is back on even though UNC is terrible this year.
The jerseys were the team manager bull, the team manager bull.
I turned on the game and I actually thought I had turned on the team manager because there's
also at six o'clock when it should be at eight o'clock.
Yep.
And Dicky V should be on the call and Dicky V should be on the call UNC.
They blew that game so, so bad.
And now I think Hank, I'm ready to say it.
Duke's here.
I think it is Duke's here.
Like that was such an improv.
What Trey Jones did with that, with that, like you can't, you do that a hundred times.
Duke doing.
You do that a hundred times and it doesn't work the way it did.
You do it a thousand times.
It doesn't work the way it did.
It was perfectly placed.
So many times people try to miss on purpose and they completely miss the rim or it goes
at, you know, a different direction.
It bounced perfectly back to him.
These scores, not perfectly back to him, but to where he could get it.
And UNC just blew that game a million different ways.
There's an art form to missing free throws.
Is Roy Williams on his deathbed now?
Uh, yeah, probably.
He's probably going to die on the sidelines.
I mean, they missed so many free throws.
They weren't even boxing out fundamental basketball PFT for your guy.
If I'm Roy Williams, I would, I would rather have gotten blown out by 20 points and they'll
lose like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I mean, I, yeah, I bet on UNC.
So no.
This might be an unpopular take, but I didn't mind the jerseys.
Oh, the jerseys were bad when they debuted them on Twitter in that picture.
No, they were worse.
In person.
Oh, they were worse.
It looked like big Superman logo.
No, they look, it was so bad.
The fact that they were like full color, like it was, it was kind of a color rush and they're
both blues.
That's what was awesome about it.
No, but it was confusing because they're both blues and then it did.
It really looked like game managers.
It looked like the practice jerseys that they wear.
I, I didn't mind them as much in person as I did when I first saw them.
I, I got used to them by halftime.
It was great that they, so in classic Duke UNC fashion, that stat that we saw all week
that they, the last hundred games, they were 50 and 50 and scored the exact same amount
of points and then they went to overtime.
Yep.
So, so perfect.
But it was great.
It was great that I love when rivalries, even when a team is down and it can still get up
to the hype and like be such a chaotic, crazy game.
Kudos to that.
It's Duke's year.
It is officially Duke's year.
It is.
Yeah.
And maybe Gonzaga.
Cause Gonzaga keeps, Gonzaga had their classic game where they place, every year they play
St. Mary's and everyone's like, this is the one spot.
They could, could lose this and then they just fucking kick the shit out of them.
Yeah.
That was Gonzaga on Saturday.
What about Baylor?
I'm putting Baylor into my, Baylor's very, very good.
They're in my maybe pile at the number one teams in your maybe, they're in my maybe pile
right now.
I like it.
Well, because every, so once they got to number one, people are like, wow, can you believe Baylor's
number one?
No frauds?
No, they're maybe.
They're very good.
All right.
Let's do our who's back.
Hank, why don't you start?
My who's back the week is Chaz Batch.
Why?
What do you do?
Why?
What do you do?
Charlie Batch.
So yeah, you, you, you act surprised big cat.
You're like, why?
Why are you talking about Chaz Batch?
Is he okay?
He posted a video this weekend and he said it was like him in his driveway, bunch of snow
and he's like, wow, so excited for this snow, snow, snow plowing time.
Got five million views.
What?
What?
Chaz Batch is so excited for the snow.
No way.
What is he?
Is Chaz Batch buying flowers?
Was there something?
Holy shit.
5.38 million views.
I'm still, I'm in my happy place right now.
Snowboarding time.
You know what it is?
I know what it is.
He kind of looks like John Legend.
So John Legend might have, which we did and he said, I was speeding past this in my mentions
and definitely thought it was me.
There we go.
Even John Legend thought this was John Legend.
Yeah.
Okay, I'm happy I got that.
Jeffrey definitely looked at this and was like, yeah, that's definitely, that's John
Legend.
He really does look like John Legend.
But yeah, so Chaz Batch is back.
Oh, millions of people across the world will be like, oh, forgot about Charlie Batch.
It would be a real shame if Chrissy Teigen saw this and was like, hmm, I have always
wanted to live in Michigan in the middle of February.
I know something else he could plow.
Upgrade, upgrade.
Yeah.
Damn, Chaz Batch.
Way to go, dude.
Well, Chrissy, that looks like about seven to eight inches.
Great to see him.
That needs to get plowed right there.
Maxion legend.
Maybe you could help out with that, Chrissy.
Chaz Batch.
Wow.
He does look a little bit like Arthur the Yardvark.
A little bit.
Yeah.
He's also, I'm looking at his Twitter now.
He's doing some weird organic makeup masks.
He's living his best life.
That's pretty chill.
He's got two fucking Super Bowl rings.
A verbal meme.
This is John Legend when he finds out that Charlie Batch is plowing Chrissy Teigen and
see Arthur Fist.
Oh, nice.
Bring that back.
He looks good.
Game shape.
He's ready to go.
Get him in the XFL.
Hell yeah.
PFT, who do you have?
Who's your who's back?
My who's back.
By the way, Hank, I like how you set that up.
Like eight million views and then we had to do like a treasure hunt to find out why.
Electric.
My who's back in the week is beers.
So beers are back in a huge way.
Did they believe?
Some people ask like are beers only to be drank on one day of the week?
And in fact, no, they're not.
Beers can be drank any day of the week.
How many though?
Infinity.
Azalean.
Oh, maybe.
Oh, Azalean.
Azalean.
You can drink a zillion beers any day of the week.
Very versatile and Bong, the Korean director of Parasite, just had a clean sweep at the
Oscars tonight.
One best picture, best director, a lot of other good stuff.
And he capped off every acceptance speech with now I'm going to drink until tomorrow
morning.
Yes.
Which is big power move.
By the way, Parasite, if you haven't seen it, awesome movie.
Big time, like well deserving Oscars.
I saw if people were upset because 1917 didn't win.
I actually saw all the Oscar movies this year, first time in forever.
And I did like 1917 more, but Parasite was just as good.
Like it was one of those.
The record show.
One and one and two easily.
What what let the record show what?
You thought 1917 was better.
But oh, I did.
Yeah.
Well, I saw 1917 in the theater and I saw Parasite at home.
So there's always a difference.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah.
Good Oscars show.
Phoenix.
Joaquin Phoenix.
Canceled milk.
When he got on stage, I immediately said this is about to be an unusual three minutes.
And he just starts talking.
And the first two minutes of his speech were bad things are bad and collectively as humanity,
we should renounce them.
Right.
And then I kind of tuned him out for a little bit.
And when I started listening, he was talking about like stealing milk from a calf.
Yep.
Because it belongs to his mom.
Canceled.
Oat milk is in.
Oat milk.
So I don't know.
Milk alternatives.
Oat milk, except for the fact that once every week or so, somebody tweets me a picture
of the specific type of oat milk, which is a person who looks exactly like me a cartoon
dressed in a bird outfit.
Oh.
And I have no idea what brand of oat milk it is, but that's my only experience.
We got to find that.
Oat milk.
So it feels negative.
Look it up.
We're all in on the oat milk.
But yeah.
Good Oscars show.
I'm sure people were upset with the length or with all the rich people.
I don't know.
There's a million reasons to be mad about the Oscars.
I don't know.
I just watched it because I actually saw all the movies this year, so I actually knew what
was going on.
Eminem was back.
That's right.
That was cool.
Martin Scorsese fell asleep during Eminem's set.
That was also cool.
The head nodding to the Eminem performers was all time.
Oh, so awkward.
Just love watching all these people dressed up and awkward.
Oh, Stephen A is doing the after show.
Of course he is.
Look at that.
Of course he is.
Horny Stephen A.
Oh man.
That was probably a big night for him.
He's got something to say about the dresses.
Yeah.
What was the woman who came up and basically was like last year this time was my husband's
best night of his life?
Basically just like I sucked my husband dry.
Sucked that guy down.
Yeah, I don't know who that was, but that was an awesome speech too.
All right, my who's back is Bobby Knight.
Bobby Knight is back.
I can't believe it happened.
He returned to Indiana.
I never thought he would.
He has said he wanted everyone who took part in him, you know, getting fired from Indiana
to die.
He said that.
He said.
On Dan Patrick's show.
He also said bury me upside down so those losers can kiss my ass.
Yep.
I don't think he understands how like would somebody if they went to the trouble to dig
up your body, they could just turn you over.
True.
Well, it would probably be just nothing there, bones.
Right.
The whole upside down thing feels like he just wanted to fuck the earth.
Yeah, but he he did actually wish death on everyone.
He I think it was probably a few years ago when he was on Dan Patrick and he he said
something like Dan Patrick was like, yes, so all those people they're all long gone.
Like you should go back because this has been a long time thing.
Like he said that he hated Indiana, didn't want to go back.
There was times he would rumor that he would be back, but he would never go back and he's
like, yeah, I hope everyone there like is is long gone and dead.
Patrick was like, well, I mean, not dead, dead.
And he's like, yeah, no, dead, dead.
No, I'm Bob Bob Knight.
I I am a surly motherfucker.
So I kind of respect that about about a guy.
You'll always know where you stand with him.
If he's the kind of guy that will wish somebody to just be dead on earth.
To be dead. Also, Bob Knight, speaking of beers, zillion beers,
please drink responsibly because Bob Knight's nose.
Holy shit. Do you see that?
He's got some gin blossom.
It is a purple nose.
He's got a full on purple nose.
So his nose was turned into the clown striped pants.
Did you see it? I'll show you a picture.
This is live PFT reaction to Bob Knight's nose because it was hard to miss.
How look at that.
It looks like he got punched. Oh, wow.
Yeah, he got rum punched.
Yeah, he got punched over and over years and years and years and years.
So good to see Bob Knight back just and it was great to have his
celebrated his old team.
He and Isaiah Thomas hand in hand.
Just two good guys root for him.
I love it. I love Bob Knight.
Coach the Knicks. Yeah, to it.
I'm sure he actually that would be fucking awesome, wouldn't it?
Yeah, it would be great.
Let's make it happen.
He's just yell at everyone and piss off everyone,
maybe choke some players, nice, really shitty things.
Throw some chairs around at officials.
Can't be worse than the current Knicks.
Dan Dockett, Bob Knight coached the.
He should coach the Bulls.
Jim Boylan is just a nicer Bob Knight.
They should get Dan Dockett to be the general manager of the Nick,
the president of the Knicks, Dan Dockett.
Yeah, head coach Bobby.
No, speak. Yeah.
Well, they don't have to.
That's how the Knicks front office has been working for the last 10 years.
So big time beef, this league beef.
Really? Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Dockett has has not talked to Bob Knight in a few years.
So it must be pretty bad.
Yeah. No, he said that he's talked shit about him.
Like Bob Knight is talking shit about Dockett's everywhere.
Everywhere.
Dockett's is gone.
Is it time to ask, like, can Dockett's not take hard coaching anymore?
Hmm.
Is he? Is he millennial millennial Dan Dockett trophy?
Dockett needs his coaches to be patting him on the head all the time.
Listen, I think I'm actually supposed to go on a show tomorrow.
So he's talking about about a few years.
Talk about this. Listen, partner, Dan, listen, in today's day and age,
I know you want everything handed to you on a silver platter.
Yeah.
But a lot of times the coaches you learn the most from,
they're the ones that coach you the hardest on.
All right.
So you want to you want to get out there and learn.
You want to learn something about the world, about being a real life human
being now you want to listen to a guy like Bob Knight,
even when he says bad things about you.
It's good points, good points.
So yeah, Bob Knight is back.
Now we can put that to bed.
He he strikes me as a guy who might that might be it.
Probably that might be a Joe Pussage.
This is he came back.
He did his thing.
That might be it.
Or maybe we need to ask, like, what's his angle for coming back right now?
Oh, is he is he trying to take the place down from the inside?
Just I'll put it this way.
Look under conference tables for any suitcase that Bob Knight may have left behind.
Interesting. Interesting.
Goes deeper.
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OK, here he is. Super Bowl champ Chris Jones.
OK, we now welcome on Super Bowl champion
Chris Jones from the Kansas City Chiefs soon to be a very rich man.
Are you ready for that?
Like you got to be that's coming, right?
That's coming soon.
Yeah, it'll work itself out, man.
You know, the money is always a good thing to have.
So, you know, but it'll work itself out.
Try not to think about it.
I assume these guys here with you right now are your agents, right?
Yeah, OK, so were they mad at you after the Super Bowl when you said
I want to be a chief for life?
Um, you know, their opinions on my career decision
really don't matter because your agents work for you. True.
So so it's completely to my decision
if I want to be a chief for life or not, it's not my agent.
OK, no matter what happens, you're going to be a very happy man.
Yeah, most definitely, man, especially when you
you have more capital than you can count on your finger.
So yeah, that's nice.
Good problem. That's nice.
So yeah, I was going to say, I actually
I thought that you could have been the Super Bowl MVP
the way that you played on defense.
It was like you and Honey Badger were all over the place.
Those deflections that you had, some of the rushes that you had,
you did like some forklift move, got into Jimmy, Jimmy G's face,
made him step up in the pocket.
Were you thinking like maybe for a second, like I might be Super Bowl MVP?
No, you know, we all have those goals going into the game.
You know, what do you want to achieve out of the game?
And I was like MVP or, you know, I knew that was going to be pretty hard to beat
when you have a quarterback of the the statue that Pat has, you know,
when you can come out and do those things with your arm.
And, you know, offensive guys, it's hard to be the offensive guy.
They want to give it to like a receiver at the very least.
They'll give it to a receiver.
You know, yeah, you know what I mean?
Defensive guys, that would be hard.
Yeah, Vaughn Miller had it in Super Bowl 50.
But you did have that, I would say the two biggest plays in the Super Bowl
were Patrick Mahomes, third and 15, the Tyree Kill.
And then your deflection, second and five, when it looked like the 49ers
had exactly what they wanted to pass there.
They had Kittle wide open, Suggs in the middle of the field wide open.
That changes the complexion of the rest of the game.
You get in there and you, you know, tip that ball.
Were you saying to yourself, like in that moment,
like this is my time to make some plays?
Because it felt like the whole defensive line as you get to the fourth quarter,
you guys all stepped your game up at the same time.
Yeah, you know, through the course of the game, football,
especially that game was a momentum game.
Momentum was shifting up and now, you know, especially in that situation,
it was 20 to 10, I think so.
And our offense has just gaited in the ball back.
And if they would have scored, they would have put them up with 17 points.
So we were stinking in our heads, somebody got to make a play.
And, you know, that was the perfect situation for me out of those situations.
I was feeling like Jordan game five, three seconds on the clock to go.
Let's make something happen.
Love that. It's got to be a great feeling.
It is like having an ongoing organism.
Yeah, Tantric, you're like, you're like the sting.
Sting, yeah.
Yeah, they run the play, the WASP play on offense.
You run the sting play on defense, which is just you're just nutting
the entire second half.
I like that.
That's a beautiful way to put it, man.
Yeah, beautiful way to put it.
So with you were just mentioning, like if they had scored,
they would have gone up 17 points.
That would have been in the fourth quarter.
But ironically, you guys have played almost better
throughout the playoffs with a double digit points deficit earlier in the game.
Is that part of your defensive game plan to be like, hey,
let's let them score 20 points in the first 15 minutes and then we'll come back.
Absolutely not.
All right.
No, let them use all their good plays.
Yeah, a lot of those have to do with,
if you know the first 15 plays of a football game on the offensive side
or all schemed and they're already called before the ball even snapped.
First team, first 15 are scripted.
So once you get over the first 15,
depending on where you are at in the game, 14 to zero, 21 to zero,
you can make adjustments because after the first 15,
not often it's got to go back to what they originally do.
And that's what you study for.
Sometimes we get the getting looks that we haven't seen all year.
And they kind of knock you off balance.
But long as you can withstand that foul power that they're going to send out to you,
then the rest is a cruise.
Settle this debate for us.
Damien Williams.
What is his nickname in the locker room?
D. Will, that's what I call it.
Yeah, most people know.
We'll call some playoff Damien playoff Damien.
That may be a new thing.
You know, he had 11 touchdowns.
Well, Joe Bucks said it during the broadcast.
He was like, as they as they call him playoff Damien.
And we're like, there's no way anyone calls him playoff Damien.
That seems a little weird.
It's a bad nickname. Yeah.
I mean, I haven't heard it.
Joe Bucks may know something.
I don't know. OK, good.
So we were right.
Like we were saying, it could have been big game, game or playoff.
Yeah, big game, game is good.
Yeah, it flows with the name of a playoff.
Name, you know, no.
All right. So we're spot on.
I appreciate that.
Have you recovered from Phillip Rivers punching you?
I haven't.
I still see a bruise.
I wonder what necessary steps is this leaves going to take to make sure that,
you know, he's he he seek the repercussions of punching someone.
But no, I haven't recovered yet
that was like the cutest punch ever.
It was it was filled up matter straightened.
Yeah. What so what was being said back and forth when that happened?
You've got to understand I'll talk a lot of stuff on the field.
Right.
That's the first time I've ever seen
Tom Brady get mad at a defensive lineman earlier in the year.
Yeah, OK.
When I talk shit to him, but no, that's the part of the game.
I feel like especially quarterbacks because they just on hiatus
You know, it's quarterback and D line. Those are two different type of class
So when y'all are able to clash up you talk your shit
You say how you feel to him if he on the ground, you know, you call him a old-ass motherfucker or
Get your old ass up
You need to fucking retire and you know hurts. Yeah. Yeah. So anytime I'm able to say anything
To a quarterback after I don't hit him. I don't even have to hit you
I'll just come to you and talk talk shit. But after the game, it's nothing but love and respect but between those lines
We're a war and whatever I can do to get under your skin
Whatever I can do to affect you, but just don't know just understand. It's not just talking shit. I'm gonna hit you
Right, you're gonna feel me. I I was actually reading about the
You called the crap talking which I actually like that crap
You were crap talking Brady and you're getting in his head. Do you think you actually got in his head? I mean, uh, I
Got him to say something back to me. What do you say?
I'm gonna leave that for unnoticed undisclosed. You know, Brady was good guy. He cuts me out
But I loved it, but that's the first time I've seen Brady cuts the D linemen out. Yeah, right
Yeah, yeah, so obviously I was doing something right if he loses his focus a little bit. You're in his head. Is that
Yeah, you never know he might like accidentally touch an avocado and break out in hives, right?
I'm assuming that you said to Tom Brady like you old-ass motherfucker retire. I mean
Along along those words and Brady got up so fucking fast. That's the quickest I've ever seen Brady
Phil probably punched you just cuz he was mad that you cussed. He doesn't like that
Foul talk the most shit in the most
In the most careful way G rated you freaking sucker you
Set the fuck up Philip
Motherfreaker, yeah, yeah, Motherfreakie
Gracious to Pete
Yeah, so he's a he's a
He's a good guy though, man. Yeah, he's a great guy. Definitely respect him over the four years
We had to play that guy absolutely. He's definitely a warrior, but any day we was we between those lines
He's the old motherfucker
So something you obviously probably don't know and actually
Probably a lot of people who listen to this show because we've been doing this for four years now
We're number one sports podcast
But you actually have something to do with the history of this show because the first show we ever did
Was when your dick flopped out
The top story that we talked about the first time we ever did this show
So thank you your penis might be responsible for the success of this right podcast
What went through your head when that happened, I mean you were just you didn't do any other drills right after that
No, I didn't the beautiful thing. I actually said it couldn't happen to anyone else. It was perfect
I mean, it's happened to me a few times like you know every time my dick broke through my compression shorts when I was running
Yeah, I'd be a rich man
It's actually safe to say that you're probably the only person in the history of the combine that will ever happen to oh, man
I'll say that's good. If someone asked me that's good because it took a lot of hard work a lot of late nights
Understanding myself, you know, that's true. It's actually like if that happened to me
It would be the most embarrassing moment of my life because I mean my penis is like a tic-tac
But for you it was like whatever it happens. Yeah, like it wasn't a first time it happened because I used to shoot
basketball
In gym shorts and used to have a compression. It'll just bust out
How many pairs of compression shorts have you you're like client sauce the fullback with face masks
Except your dick is just destroying under armor
How many times that happens that doesn't happen twice man one time playing basketball
When they shot a jump shot my my my shorts fell and my dick was hanging out
There you go. So it hasn't happened in four years. You're you're you're fine now
Did any GM like approach you after that and say hey, we're moving you up our big board because of that
I mean, I was thinking
Since I went balls out that uh, you know, I can get a little moved up, but they waited till the second day on me
Yeah, yeah, that's I mean do you feel disrespected
It's considering how good you've been in the league that you weren't drafted higher. Is that a chip on your shoulder?
Yeah, most definitely man
I feel like nothing to those guys that went ahead of me obviously they done something that was attractive to the team but you
Know I always had the chip on my shoulder that I was better
Not trying to discredit anyone of their work. It's just a confidence. I have it on myself
Do you think that you are the best interior lineman in the NFL right now?
1000% 1000%
At this moment right now, I do feel is I'm the best I was looking at some stats
And I saw that you not only produced at a high rate, but you get double-teamed almost as much as any lineman in the game
It's like you and Aaron Donald that get all these double teams
Do you like going up against two dudes? Do you feel like it's a sign of respect?
And it makes you kind of like raise your game up a little bit, you know what around game for this year
I was getting upset because they wasn't double-teaming me enough and I
Feel like a double team creates
Open gaps for other players on the D-line and I feel like if they double-teamed me
We got good enough guys that's gonna win their one-on-one. So that's actually benefits me because when guys start winning in one-on-ones
The double team got to leave me and then I'm able to get a one-on-one and I
Heart myself on winning one-on-ones
Interesting. So you're saying that like when you are double team from the jump
It's sometimes easier because you don't you'll never get surprised double-teamed in the middle of the play
Well, I'm not saying that I like double team, but I have embraced double team
I don't find ways to beat double teams. I
Study on beating double teams more than beating one-on-ones
Interesting. Um, what did Andy Reed say to the team before you guys took the field?
You know what he kept it the same he let
Tyra and Matt through and Pat my homes do that thing and
You know, he just said let your personality show. Oh, I like that kind of like a Gordon Bombay go out and have fun
That's that's 1000% what he preaches to let your personality show have fun. Did did my homes?
We've had him on the show. Did he pump everyone up? Did he get everyone real pumped up?
Yeah, my home. He does this thing
But you know, it's nothing like a defensive guy cranking up the defense. Yeah, you know, nothing gets the offensive guy
But also offensive guys lead in a different way because they're about scoring. We're about attacking
Right. So scoring is attacking. It's kind of the same thing, but it's a different mindset. You know, I mean Russian coming out
Yeah, well, I we've through all the people we've talked to guys in the NFL
They've always said like even off air that deline players are the craziest players on the field
1000% we got some fucking characters
They always say that room is like that's that's the room you don't want to go
We got my brother Frank Clark
Who is an animal, but he's definitely different we got Mike Pinnell
Who is fucking I don't even know where they got this guy from but he is amazing, you know
We got death row Jeff row
Yeah, you'll think he's a he's found with a sugar night death row records
Yeah, we got some characters on the team and uh, yeah, I hate it for my position coach
But he learned he kind of figured out how to combine everyone and make us all better
Mm-hmm. Do you do you do a Patrick Mahomes impression?
See, I don't do that man cuz that's my QB and you can't you can't fuck up that
Connection between you and a QB Tyree did it. I didn't think his was not good by the way
But I'm just saying you see only Tyree got the ball. I want to twice
Yeah
Listen when you when a quarterback is throwing you the ball and you talking shit about him you think he ain't going back
Okay, yeah, we're gonna see how many times you get the ball. That's why we don't do that on this show ever because
Pat has some
Gave me a pair of those fucking goggles. Yes, so I'm not trying to fuck up the relationship between me and Pat
Yeah, you know I mean did you do a beer loose?
You know I did dog
Listen something about the parade is it went crazy in Kansas City. I think they're still going crazy. It was like 30 degrees
I started too early
Okay, I got on the bus. I had I had the ace of spade with me
It's a spade just to throw the champagne everywhere. I bought like three bottles. They gave me a bottle also
So um and I had the Patron just for those who love tequila. Mm-hmm, and you know, I had the brown
I had the gentleman Jax. Mm-hmm. I had the crown apple a little bit every day
Extreme rare and then you had to do some cold and then you know, they had the blood light on the bus
So I didn't even have to move so I get on the bus my girl
Girlfriends like just calm down, you know, let's just take it easy. My teammates. They're like Chris. Let's not start early
I know you excited. So I'm like giving up
Fuck yeah, let's go. So I grabbed both of the bottles and
One particular fan had two bottles and it was a she she clocked them together and did and I'm like, oh, no
You're not out doing me. So I grabbed two bottles clocked them together boom boom boom
So that was like before the bus even moved
Getting on the bus five minutes later
I started feeling a little woozy cuz I done did this like eight or nine times. So I'm like shit
Let me sit down. But that's a good day to do it like
How often do you win how often you win a Super Bowl?
People listen, we had the owner there the corporate the president and I told him listen, man
If you're all looking at me from a business standpoint, please don't right now
Cuz today is not the day, you know, you're gonna see some shit that you never probably ever see again out of Chris
Unless we get right here again next year
Did they have a bathroom on the bus? Oh, no, let me tell you what the crazy thing we had to do
We had to get off the bus run to a porta potty
Finish run back to the bus, you know, and I was just like fucking I got me a corner in the back of the bus
Used up used the bottle and just did my thing in it. I'm like man. It was crazy though, man
10 minutes on the bus. I was about passed out. My girlfriend woke me up when we got to our destination
They put me in the corner. I fell asleep for like 45 50 minutes. They woke me up. We went on stage
Went crazy Travis Kelsey said the most amazing speech ever. Oh, that was amazing
Well, he had to try to one up his brother cuz his brother set the bar pretty high in Philadelphia. Oh, yeah, his brother did it
But Travis outfit was off the chain. Yeah, it was. Oh man. Yeah, that sounds like the best time ever. Oh, bro
It was super cool. Oh my god. I gotta get win it again. It feels like I'm going orgasm is just keep having it
You gotta win it again and maybe don't drink as much right away. That's my thing. That's my thing. I went
I challenged myself, you know, soon as we won the Super Bowl
I was like, I'm gonna see how many days I can just go hard all in and said I am finally fell asleep last night
Watching film I was watching the game fell asleep. I'm like fuck this ain't it
So today I'm I got me two shots of espresso. I'm on the roll right now
Because I saw on February 6th. That was uh, yesterday. You said winners don't sleep. We hashtag hashtag no sleep
Yeah, but then you fell asleep right after you sent that some would say that that's a fraud move on your part
No, this is this is mean
Me meaning winners don't sleep. We don't get eight hours of sleep
That's on a normal day whether I'm having fun or partying or not. I don't the most I sleep is like five
Five and a half to six hours. Do you always do you do hashtag rise and grind or like do an Instagram video from the gym?
No, I do punching in the clock. I put the box and gloves in
Punching in the car. You have to let everybody know that you're working out. Yeah
Then you roll over and go back to sleep. Yeah, that's the move. That'll be contradicting man. That's a way to do it
That's a way to do it. Um, all right. I got one last question. It's a sea keek question
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Every time you guys went down you went down in every single game double digits
I would tweet
Thanks for coming out chiefs
Basically being like you guys are toast
Patrick Mahomes then would go and like that tweet right after the game sometimes
I think in the locker room
Do you think I deserve like maybe a little bit of your Super Bowl bonus for always doubting you guys and being the worst gambler slash
Jinx serve all time. Oh
Yeah, I didn't know you was doing it. Yeah, why I you probably for a moment
You were like it feels like there's like a higher power
Helping us here. That was me. I did that was me
Being a terrible gambling. I felt that energy man. Yeah, when I walked in I'm like, oh shit. I feel the vibes. Yes
Who is this high power motherfuckers? It was me. Oh my god, but you know what, you know, we needed y'all man
A lot of people doubted us man. Me. Yes, Shannon short fucking
Oh, yeah, I'm going with my boy Mahomes. We get to the Super Bowl. He's talking about I'm going with Guadalupe
Like that's fake love right there. Yeah, you know what I mean? I respect I do respect Shannon, but that's just fake love
You know, you're gonna roll with us. Roll to the wheels fall off. Yeah, and that's what I did
Big cat and Shannon sharp public enemy number one, but totally took the titans in the in the ac championship
You took a future on them and everything. He's lying
And also a future on them to win the Super Bowl
So, yes, but I have completely lied. You bet it was a tie even the future to win the Super Bowl
So, yeah, this is didn't have the rate. That's he doubted me just as much as me
I was never a doubter. See that jersey behind you Anthony Sherman
That's right. Yeah, he said that's a beer video. I would never doubt you guys. Oh man, uh, Sherman
He went crazy too. Yeah, everybody went crazy. But damn, I didn't know y'all was down. That's like that man
What my question is y'all didn't think we was gonna
Win the championship after we broadcasted what we had last year. We only got better. I never doubted
I said in November. This is when Andy Reid goes on a run
I said it. I mean, but
Not no, remember because you were like a physical run and I was like, no not a physical run
No, I thought you guys were always a good team. I mean, there was other good teams too, but you guys are the best
But my thing is
We was good with injuries. Yeah, I had my horn missed a couple games. We still won. Absolutely
Um, I missed a couple games. We still prevailed. So
Y'all didn't think when everyone got healthy that we was going to be better. No, I mean
Yeah, you guys were Super Bowl champs. Well, we haven't lost the game with everyone's healthy. That's true
Uh, wait. Yeah, that's true. That is true. Yeah, we didn't lose the game with everyone's last game you guys lost
Titans
Yep times. That was a weird game
That was a very weird game. Frank Clark was hurt. Yeah, he only plays 16 plays so you can just oh only 16
So he wasn't hurt. Oh, he was hurt enough to you know, he was hurt
He was hurt man. He wasn't a hundred. Yeah
My last question. How long after the Super Bowl did it take for Andy Reed to put on shorts?
I don't know. He probably walked it a buzz in shorts
Andy ain't no suit type of guy. Uh, only on certain occasions. He's more of a
The casual guy casual male
You know what? He loved the button-ups the short sleeve though. Yeah, the button up, you know, let his chest hair stick out
Pokey in the eye sometimes
Did you guys stay in Miami on Monday night?
Um, we left Monday. Oh, you left Monday. I thought maybe you would party Monday night in Miami. That would have been fun
Oh, no, man. Um, I had to take this team playing back so I can get back to this parade
Yeah, I mean it seemed like a pretty damn good time. All right. Well, Chris Jones. Thank you so much for stopping by
Good luck with the contract. I mean
You're gonna get paid. So that's fucking awesome. Congratulations on the contract. Let's say it that way
You're one of the best players in the NFL. So you deserve it and uh, you're Super Bowl champ
man, I appreciate it, man, um
It's still haven't set in yet, but I'm still trying to embrace it. Fuck. We're Super Bowl champions
Maybe if you sleep for more than like eight hours, you're still orgasming right now. Yeah, right? Yeah
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Recurring guest josh alan one of one of our best friends
Not the best friend. You're in our top eight boy. It's my space
Jared
I make the top friends page. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're in our uh t-mobile
Five whatever five that you can call for free. I was saying my space. Okay
You know you guys are happy it's you and tom the guy in the white shirt that's writing on the
Yeah, you're in the top five. Uh, so it's great to have you on
We have a lot to discuss and I think the most important thing we need to discuss
That lateral
Yeah, what what were you doing? Um
it was
I actually stood up out of my couch. I was like, no
What's and was screaming it was kind of an awesome moment kind of a fuck it like fuck it. Let's just do it moment
But uh, yeah, that was crazy, huh? Yeah, I tried to channel my inner reggie bush there. Yes
I said that I was like, it's a reggie bush. Yeah. No, it wasn't wasn't my finest moment, but I kind of just saw him and
Hell if I would have given a good little pitch docile, I'd have been able to go
Yeah, I actually thought I thought it was a good idea. I think that more teams should do
Downfield laterals it happens in rugby all the time and if you if you can hit somebody in stride
It's usually a touchdown. Yeah, so like I admired you. I'm with you. Yeah on your side
I don't want big cat to talk you out of trying another
I can't promise I'm not gonna do it, but I don't plan on it
I was right. I think it could happen something happened in that game where like it was just chaos everywhere
And the lateral was part of that and it was just like what's going on right now
I I appreciate the like whenever an athlete's like fuck it. Let's just do it. Like let's just try this
Kind of make a play right was uh coach pretty mad at you after not really
Oh, okay. Well after the game obviously we're all pretty disappointed. Right. It wasn't like a
That was your fault. Like right. Yeah, but a pretty awesome season overall
Like that was uh, I know it's always, you know, you get to the playoffs and losing the playoffs
You can't say it's a success, but it was a success for Buffalo because you guys are building something
Uh walking away from that. We were able to like a week or two later be like, hey, you know what?
Like that was a pretty awesome season, you know to to kind of sit back and reflect and to realize how young our team is
To get to 10 wins and how we did it
There's a lot of a lot of room to improve and that's that's the good part for us that we did have this type of season
And we've still got a lot of improvement to make a lot of a lot of places we can grow and um,
obviously with our offseason coming up and with our front office and
um, you know, they've been fantastic and bringing the right guys in our locker room is pretty good right now and
Um, you know, I got a lot of guys in there that I'd kill for
Yeah, you died you'd murder for them
potentially
In a certain situation what type of murder like we were talking bare hands
Weapon defense self defense. Yes, you would murder for that's you're a good leader. They're they're uh on the train
Devin singletary has been tied up on a train track
You'd murder the train. I'd stop the train. You'd stop the chain before it hit him
Okay, I like that frank gore is locked in a room
And the oxygen is being slowly sucked out of the room and the only way you can get into that room
Uh, the only key is embedded inside tom brady's heart and you have to stab him and cut the cut the key out to get it
Do you kill him?
I love frank gore. Would you murder?
Tangent frank gore is one of the coolest human beings like
He's the man. Yeah, he gave me a sign 49ers jersey for christmas
Because I grew up a huge 49ers fan
I grew up having his jerseys and wearing them and going to the games and having 21 on my on my chest. So
So that's cool. Are you gonna root for the niners?
On sunday, we'll probably run this after the super rule, but it's kind of weird because now you're in the obviously in the nfl
So you're gonna sit there and be like kind of hope the niners win
I mean, where's the afc pride?
Well, I kind of like I'd rather than
Don't you wouldn't want they have seen not to win? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like to just pretend
It's like college football because they're like they're closer of a rival
The niners would be right plus people are always like oh patrick myhomes and josh allen have the biggest arms in the league
So you don't want them to be you don't want them taking that crown. Mm-hmm. Yeah
Okay, yeah, see room for the niners. Yeah, I'll say I'll move for the niners, but I I don't know
I've got some different different ideas of what the game could happen and what could what could go
It could go either way. Right. Um
Going down the stretch this season. I noticed something like a little bit different about your play. You've always been a good runner
But you started to run a little bit more physically where it looked like you were enjoying the contact
Sometimes you get I think it was a patriots game. Yeah that night game
You were like running into people and popping up and like john on a little bit. Do you like getting hit?
Well, so I didn't start off that game
I think I was started over three or something like that and I just I need one need one to get me going
I do so
Yeah, and I need a little bit of contact to to get myself human human body craves contact
Coach harbaugh taught us that swear to god. It's true. You feel better. I'm a big harbaugh guy. Yeah, you are. Oh, yeah
What just I mean? I like I said I was for the
Love 49ers. Yeah, and you brought the prominence and you seem like a you know a guy that players wanted to play for
Yes, absolutely. Here's a good question
Your coach famously took the ping pong table
Out of the locker room when the pool table the pool table. Sorry ping pong table still there. Oh, thank god. Oh, yeah
I thought he took I thought he took both out
Because I think maybe as long as I've been there. It's been it's been right but right in front of my locker
Okay, so he was he the coach that seemed for one year before you correct
All right, so I think what he did if I remember my pro football talk correctly
I think he took both of those out and then it sounds like he reintroduced
The ping pong table. Okay, uh to like foster camaraderie
Was that something that you think like actually helps your team being able to play ping pong because I'm a big believer
Whenever a coach comes in he's like, I'm gonna clean up the locker room real quick. We're taking the pool table out
Was there a question in there? No, I don't think so
It's three o'clock on Friday
There wasn't a question
My question is uh, how
How much do you wish the ping pong table?
And the pool table were both back in the locker room. Uh, I wish the pool table was in there
How good are you at ping pong? I'm I'm pretty good. Okay, but I'm not I'm not top dog in our in our locker room
Matt Barkley, okay, or steven house. Yeah. Oh these guys, but they take your kickers
Lessons matt you take lessons matt. Let's let's be honest. You take lessons. I don't know if I can look
Yeah, Hank does now. Oh, you're looking at that right now. They have their own
One their own ping pong paddles, which are 200 300 dollars. Okay, they have yeah, they have covers
Yes, ping pong paddles, and then they have foam that goes on their paddle. So
Hey, they're in a different world. Like I get the crappy ping pong
Paddles in the locker room and I'll play well. We uh, we got a ping pong table in the office
I'm also a kicker and I also bought a $250 paddle
You are you are a kicker congrats on that. Yeah, I I if you lose that's so embarrassing
I know but it's just crazy how he just absolutely nailed kickers right there. Yeah, we're fucking nerds
Yeah, you actually bought the $250 paddle. Yeah, just because you thought it'd give you an edge
Well, me and Jeff when haves, he's on it. Oh my god, that's worse. That's way worse
No, but then they sent him one because they saw that we bought one. Yeah, so now I've got my own
That's worse that you're gonna share a ping pong to paddle in retrospect
Like you shouldn't share another man's paddle right what happens when you play each other
Oh, well, he's got his own now, but well
Yeah, we we had a handshake agreement when we played each other we would use the regular paddles
So neither one of us would use the good one. I don't I don't know what to believe anymore
You're getting verified. You're buying fucking ping pong. I know like what is going on? I've changed man. What else?
What is going on change? I'm corporate damn. It's corporate. Yeah, if you lose that's embarrassing for the whole brand
Like I'm part of my brand is losing right. No, I think it actually helps
But when you try and you lose that's really what it's bad. Yeah, are we still doing an interview right now? Yeah, we are um
You have a glow-up. You're looking pretty good. I'm looking good. Yeah, what have you bought?
Tell us what do you mean purchases anything car house clothes
List them bought this the other day. This is our portion called the irs is coming for you
No, it's from rack. Okay. That's nice. That's a nice Miami jacket. It's like a little understated
But a nod to the culture not too much. Yeah, I'm not like the too much guy
Right, right. You got the shirt underneath. How much was the shirt?
Uh, like a seventy eight dollar shirt. Okay. Not bad. Just a plain white makes you that's the thing is like you can
You obviously are in good shape. You're tall guy your handsome guy. You can wear anything and look good
I don't know about any horny right now. No, I'm getting a little it's a little I'm a little tired
So wait, so have you bought like a house or a car or anything about a house in Buffalo? Okay
Love that but bill's mafia loves that. Yeah. Yeah
And then the car I bought I bought a Range Rover
And that's kind of like my dream car growing up and then I now have a forward raptor Baja
Hell, yeah, Shelby addition. How does it do in the snow? Fantastic. Yeah, very is great. You ever open it up on the highway?
No, no, no, no
That thing no that thing can move
It moves really well
It beats the Range Rover off the block and I got the the sport and it's dynamic and oh, you got the sport
Yeah, what 130? No, not that much. So yeah, yeah, no the sports. You got the upgrade. What do you guys drive?
How about we interview you Mazda cx-5? It's a compact SUV very affordable. Do you even drive in New York?
It's the biggest no car ever. I don't have a car. I bought a pair of those
Isometric shoes that you put on. So that's how I get around mostly works the calves out a lot. It's important to me
No, keep you on your toes the entire time. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the Mazda cx-5, you know, it's it's uh, they say it's an SUV
But really you can only fit like a baby and a small dog in it. They're like, oh, yeah, it's for family
Do you have any babies? I have a baby now and it's in a small
There you go. So it's the perfect car. Yeah, but yeah, everyone looks at me and they're like, dude
You couldn't get a real SUV and I was like
No, man, it's affordable. I'm trying to try to try to save the planet. Of course. Good gas mileage on the highway. Yeah, exactly
Paper straws. Have you?
No, no paper straws
I'm just asking what they do in California. The people are not happy with you with that. I'm not a fan of them
But they give you paper straws with plastic cups. It's just like doesn't make duality of man. It doesn't make sense. Yeah, um
The have you picked a wing spot? Yeah, barbell barbell tavern. Okay, good place. Have you tried that? Yeah
There's what what what kind of wings did you guys have? We had a nice little spread after whatever the hot or super hot
I think maybe not hot. I think eric would honey butter barbecue. Yes. Cajun. Yes. Those are good
We had them all it's that one and uh, gabriel's gate. Those are okay. I've not tried gabriel's gate because you live in the
Out near the bar. Do you have a mug at bar bill? I do. Yeah, are you an alcoholic? No, it sounds like you drink a lot
Wait, how often do you go there? Do you get recognized every time you go there? Obviously? Yeah, yeah
And do people hassle you or are they cool about it? I'll buff up. People are cool, man. They're the best
They'll come up. They'll last for a picture. I'm like be on their way and I sat down one time
They brought my mug over to me and there's like 20 bucks in there from some fan. He just
Because you beat the cowboys. I guess so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean bill's mafia
Buffalo people are like the best people on there. They really are the nicest people
So that doesn't surprise you that no one's bothering you. What was your favorite win this year?
The cowboy game was pretty fun. Um, it being Thanksgiving and like growing up watching that game
Yep, I had 30 plus people from back home there. So that that one was pretty sweet
Uh, the pittsburgh night game. Yes, that was a very cool atmosphere to go in there
Sunday night football was the first time the bills have been on it since 2007. I believe yep to go out there and win
And clinch a playoff spot that night and to get home and
Bill's mafia was there at two o'clock in the morning 30 degree weather. Like waiting at the airport. Yeah, it was awesome
That's cool. It felt like john linden getting out of the the plane like yeah, now's like last one out and I looked out
Hopefully they're not as big. They went crazy fans that john linden fan was uh, that would be bad
True, uh, but in that game, I think the stealers tried to play double renegade on you, right?
They played renegade twice to get their fans amped up. Did they really yeah
I heard some story that maybe like your coaches played renegade. We played it all throughout practice. Yeah
That's awesome. So when it came on
Dave will tell me after the game. It's like I didn't tell anybody as soon as that that play or they turned that song on
I was gonna go deep. So that was the play we called and john brown went up and got one
Yeah, so they so pittsburgh called that play for you by trying to beat you they beat themselves
Correct big brain. That's crazy brain. Yes. Are you worried a little bit about the hype train in the off season? Which hype train?
Bill's the one that we're about the narrative that me and big cat are going to be
New website
Um, I'm not no, I don't not worry about that. Okay. We understand what we've got to do. Um,
Good answer. Uh, all right. My last question cke question promo code take 10 dollars off go to bill's game next year
How often do people come up and mention the website?
Not so much in buffalo, but anywhere else because they've drafted you. Yes
So they don't have to talk about it anymore and they have the draft. We drafted josh on that's right that domain
Someone stole that from us, right? Well, I think it was the bills. Oh, yeah, the bills. We drafted josh
The bills, yeah, and I don't know if I'm supposed to say this, but we also bought the domain
We drafted josh allen again just in case we took him at
That's a good bond to see the scoop though. That is a huge scoop. Don't kill me
All right, so people still bring it up though when you're yeah, like especially so I I went to uh
Scott stale played in the waste management the other day and like when you get a bunch of college kids out there like that's
They they know bar still, right? They listen to you guys podcast and that's all they talk about josh big hands
I
Didn't see you at that tournament you tried to throw a guy through a table
But then it didn't really work and you had to manipulate the legs of the table
Yeah, do you look at my plan wasn't my idea? Yeah
If it was up to me, I would have really thrown them
They were trying to do it like as a little gag and set it up and and there's a wooden table
You know and it wasn't the greatest performance, but your heart wasn't in it
I did don't want to hurt the guy right. Yeah, you got a big arm, but
That's true. Yeah, it is rocket arm rocket arm. How far do you think you could throw it for real?
Have we actually this yeah
Yeah, eight eight ish 80 ish
Did you make it out of the stadium because I know that I saw you cock back and after you scored a touchdown this year
You tried to throw it out of almost I was like four or five rows to go
Holy shit
It was up there and like in my mind. I was supposed to go
Probably 10 yards further and throw it from like the edge of the turf right, but I was so pumped up
I threw it like right at the end in the end zone. Yeah the edge of the end zone and it got up there
But I got a nice little fine from it. Yeah, that's if you throw it out of it though
Yeah, you throw it out of the field like that's going to be a legendary moment
Yeah, you should do that every single touchdown that you were on everyone. Yes, we'll pay your fine nine times. No, no
He said it. He said it. I'm not gonna. He said it. It's like you heard it. Uh, everybody in here heard it
Not yeah, you're gonna pay it. All right. I'm doing it every touchdown. I'm not paying for your fine
um, all right, so
Best of luck next year. If you guys get to a home playoff game
We will be in attendance. We'll probably have to stay at your house. Okay. Um, yeah, that's guaranteed after for the afternoon
If the bills have a home playoff game next year, we got bubble hockey down in the basement
Listen, we're easy. You give us some sleeping bags in the basement. We won't even be there. You won't even know we're there
No, the the there's a story the nicest room is in the basement
Dark room comfy bed. No windows. So it's dark right and it's cold. All right
So we'll all share that bed and you won't even know we're there. Perfect, right and we'll stay there for as long as we want
Well, as long as it's a playoff as long as you guys pay my fines, you know, it's a uh
Scratch my back. I'll scratch. Yeah. I was lying. It's the thing about that. I'm a big liar
Uh, you just don't take anything and I say to be the truth. So
I I already said psych so I don't know why I'm even still defending myself. I think I was clear
He needs his money for his ping-pong nice new era hat by the way. It's a cool new era. Thank you. Thank you new era
Appreciate it new era. Uh, josh. I don't thank you as always. Good friend. Thank you. Best friends. Let's go buffalo. Let's go
I fucking love that. Nobody circles the wagons like the buffalo bills fact. He's awesome. Actually say that right into the camera
Is it our style? Yeah, nobody circles the wagons
Nobody circles the wagons like the buffalo bills
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Okay, let's get some segments
First up we have way to stay relevant baseball. You basically created a trade
hijacked everyone
Everyone's attention with mookie bets trade to the Dodgers and then spent the last week saying it's not official until
Now it's official. Yeah, it's actually great what they've done. So they they took what five days
Of uh of media coverage on this. Yes, they dropped it
They broke Hank's brother's heart and Hank's brother's dog's heart and then there was maybe hope maybe some hope
And then boom it closed. It's kind of been like, uh, is it Schrodinger's arrow the arrow that never arrives at its destination?
That's what this trade felt like if it if I know if I followed this correctly though
It's actually not the fault of any of the teams, right?
Like the reporters reported it too early and the teams never even told the players like hey, this is what's going on
So if anything, this is a uh put one of his ear hole to journalism
Why don't you wait until we're ready for the trade to actually happen before you start announcing it?
Because think about it like David Price
Probably had to uh look at private schools in la for his kids. I don't even know if he has kids
Uh, it's not clutch enough to and that was a girl. That was stressful as hell
And these people that are you know have hundreds of millions of dollars
And might have to move to la which would be awesome
Uh, they probably went through stress last that was it was tough for them for sure
Yeah, but it's also been a great weekend for the people in kin rosenthal's mentions and john hayman's mentions
These are my new favorite reply guys the ones that just reply with announce so-and-so
Yes, like announce whatever trade that they want to see happen
Yes, like uh like john hayman is waiting like behind a curtain getting ready for it to just open so he can finally
Let people know that your favorite players coming to your favorite team right now
It would be great if they actually held back and waited for like just one random person to you know, like seam head 69
Tweets jeff passon like the 700th time on a saturday announced the trade and finally he's like, you know what?
I'm gonna give it to him. I'll announce this trade to him. Here you go. Here you go seam head 69
You asked for it. You got it. It's delivered. Yeah bats is going to be a dodger again
So hank now that you've had five days or however many days it's been to let this all process
Uh, any any change in heart
No, I mean I was very hopeful that like when I saw that there was reports that
The physical was failed. He might be coming back
I was thinking that they were gonna like the trade was gonna fail and the red sox were gonna have had buyers
Or like sellers remorse and then actually give him the contract that he wanted
So I had that in my head for a few days and now it's just like back to square one
It also didn't help that our friend jared carabas who has a great uh podcast starting nine also a red sox podcast section
10 I knew that I was get it's a phoenix sundance podcast
Well, I was thinking section eight and they're like, no that's section eight housing. So section 10. I got it
So section 10, uh, but he kept on doing the like would be a real shame
And jared's one of those guys who's in the know, but he doesn't break news
So he just lets you know that he knows
But doesn't tell you that he knows he lets you know that something something is happening that you should want to know
Yeah, that he knows that he will not share and it was the perfect
It was a perfect story that I didn't really care about this
But I saw peripherally like I would see jared every few hours be like would be a real shame
It's not official right and I'm like, but I'm not actually following it closely because I don't care
So then I'm just in my head. I'm like, wait, is this trade just never happening
Here's something that we can all get excited about though is one of the players that they
One of the youngsters involved in this trade is named jeter
Yes, so the red sox got a player and there's a guy that works named jeter right
Oh, alex vertigo. Yeah, we disavow. Disavow vertigo. I'm just a team equilibrium. Yeah, is red sox now
Why are we disavowing him? We're just I think he's got another thing that I have not been following
I've been very peripheral on this
Uh, it's college basketball season and x it fell started
So it was on the last of my worries
But I think there was something with a snapchat video
Maybe revenge porn wrong place wrong time, but it might not he might have like we're just gonna go ahead and disavow
Okay, I'm just gonna get ahead of this. We're just gonna do a blanket disavow
Listen as a big red sox fan and a big new england sports through your pod guy. I'm all about jeter. Let's go jeter
That's my guy. Yeah, so we've disavowed. We're clean on that one. But yeah, the whole thing
I mean only baseball only basal would have a blockbuster trade that didn't happen for five days and now all of us
It like what the hell is going on? Oh, yeah, I forgot that you know what I actually even think
I won't really notice it until mookie beth puts on a dodger's uniform. But oh, oh, yeah, that did happen
Right. It felt like that old uh, the pelicans trade out to the lakers when it was going to be what like chris paul and
Like some blockbuster David stern when david turn put the kibosh kibosh on it help. Yeah, it felt like that's what was happening again
I'll give us all right. He had already put his finger on the scale that way
I don't think that baseball's commissioners are competent enough to actually like be be able to accurately manage
A trade that would be a disadvantage to win their premiere franchises
I think they would find out a way to screw that up if they tried to meddle with it. Absolutely. Absolutely. Um, okay
So that that's that trade. Hopefully that's the end of that although. I'm sure it's not I'm sure we'll get more news
Uh, next up we have shoe roast russell wilson's photo shoot
Yeah, let's let's roast him a little bit now
Russell wilson I I love him as a player. He is a goober
Like he's a goober. Well, he's a dad. He's a goober russell wilson is a dorky dad
But he was a dad before he was dead, of course
Yes, he was born a dad
He came out he came out of his mom's vagina wearing new balances and like acid wash jeans with cuffs on him
Yeah, he's a dweeb in this every like two months or three months
He'll have a picture that comes out where he's just like trying to do a glow up for the afternoon
I think sometimes siara's like hey, by the way, how do you say your name siara?
Like siara nevada siara mist
Sierra will be like hey, why don't you put on a pair of pants that doesn't have an elastic waistband and let's do a photo shoot
And this was an all-time photo shoot. Yeah, he I'm looking at it right now
It has some it has some a-rod kissing the mirror vibes going on
um
Yeah, I don't I any any photo shoot really is kind of awkward
It just like you know what I mean like when you do a photo shoot no matter what it's a little weird
And guys with curly hair that straighten it out like when pft has done it a couple times. It's just super
It's strange. It may definitely but yeah, it gives you like the willy right. Yeah, right
No, that's a good point Hank like my hair is very similar to russell wilson's and when you straight
He looked like he was stay woke
Isn't coming to america too coming out. This might be a viral advertisement for soul glow
He no, he but he almost looked like he could be he could be in like boy meets world
It had a shawn. What was that guy's last name shawn, whatever sleeter. No
Yes, you're too young shawn. Yeah, I got shawn matthews. Oh, no. Shawn matthews boy matthews shawn
Fuck
It does have a little boy meets world vibe. It's got a little hunter shawn hunter. I didn't look it up
He looks like uh, like a baby caterpillar those fuzzy baby caterpillars dipped in Vaseline
How many baby caterpillars are you coming across? You've seen those fuzzy caterpillars, right?
The ones that have like all the fluff on them. I know what you're talking about
I just don't know the last time I encountered one. Well, I live in new york
So I'm trying to think yeah, like you don't get to see any wildlife
What so ever that would be like a day at the zoo if I saw a rat
Yeah, he looks seriously is like actually when you break it down
That's way more off putting than Russell wilson's haircut the fact that I was just when you just mentioned baby caterpillar
Obviously, I know what you're talking about and I've seen him and you miss baby caterpillars. Well. No, I just miss
Seeing anything besides rats and pigeons right and occasionally like a cockroach. She's like, whoa. Yeah, it's a big day
Saw a cockroach. You put on your khaki pants and vests and you got crocky. Look at this
What is the bugger? What's the coolest animal you see in new york city? Probably a diseased fish probably um
A diseased fish that got plucked out of the water by a bird and then dropped or like people with luxury dogs
Like super rich people and have those crazy
I was yeah, I was a french bulldog a french bulldog with like a fendi vest on I was like they looked like it looks like a
Broom. Yes a mop. I was walking along the east river on saturday
And there's little kid was walking with his mom and he was like
Do you think like it's low tide? Do you think we're gonna get to see and I couldn't fully hear what he said?
And I was like, oh my god, is there like some kind of animal I'm missing on the east river
And I turned around and he asked again. He's like, do you think we're gonna get to see the tires?
And I was like, Jesus christ. That's really what we're like. This is new york city low tide. Hey, let's go down mom east river
We're gonna get to see the tires because this is low tide. That's new york
I don't know how we got here, but it needed to be said what we're discussing in new york wildlife
I think that we should do a show about new york wildlife
I mean we just we kind of did when we went you know, we need to do the larry's picks with
With the rats lucky the rat we need to figure out what part of town has the biggest rats because I'm sure that there are
Different types of rats in different neighborhoods because they're colonies, right?
So they're all inbred in certain colonies and then they probably get bigger
The more outside of the downtown area I would say closer to the uh electric plants
Yes, they probably get bigger the ones where their eyes glow. Yeah, right. Yeah, they're really huge
So anyways, russell wilson looked like he was in a prince music video for monster mash
Russell wilson looked like an animal
We haven't seen in four years because we live in this hellhole of new york city. Yes
All right last up. We've asked eating season for phil fulmer
He's about to eat eat all of his opponents asses because tennessee's back now. Why did he say tennessee was back?
Well, here they get a recruit. Here's the quote the vols are back and before long we'll be taking a bite out of everybody
We play his ass
So there's like 98 it's a very it's a very southern way to say i'm going to lick someone's butthole
Like putting so many different words in between the subject and the noun of a sentence
Yes, you're like we're the team who loses to division one ass or one double a ass squads
And uh, probably we'll lose the Vanderbilt again next year and our ass is clean
It's I don't I also just I need to know tennessee is one of those programs
That every like three or four years, they'll just declare that they're back and it's like no, you're not even close to back
Like it's it's even less back than texas is back texas
We we joke about but every now and then texas will put together a team
Where in september you could at least give yourself the idea that they might be back right tennessee is like no
It's not where i'm joking. It's kind of brasska can be like kind of back at some points
When tennessee is kind of cute though, they're like, uh, we're back 98 feels like 98 that's really sweet
No, like yeah, you're right tennessee will never be back, but we're not like threatened by tennessee saying no
I love burnt orange. There's one guy in my twitter mentions all the time who's uh of tennessee in clemson fan
Be careful when it's pretty funny when you get to the pantone life
Like you're you're dancing on the edge of that if you say burnt orange. Yeah, it's what you're gonna get rightfully roasted
I think it's like it's like volunteer orange. Now say this it does imply the color orange that tennessee has
For some reason implies a clean ass to me. Yes when I see someone wearing that color
I'm like they probably wiped really well. Yeah, it's it's a nice color. It pops rocky top very catchy song
Rocky top is a very catchy song. I want the end zones are awesome
Really cool smoky, uh
You're sneaky have like a sailgate situation there, too. They had a sailgate situation
um your
Knoxville has that wonderful sundome from the world's fair you guys are uh claim sometimes that you're a basketball school now
Even though you have rick barnes as your head coach, which means you'll never win anything big
So there's some good things going on. You almost hired john gruden
You had manning you had john gruden on campus and then he said you know what I'd rather move to oakland
Here's you are this you are actually the best team run by jimmy haslam
That's a good point. The browns are worse. That's a very good point. That's actually really nice. Yeah, you probably get the
Majority of jimmy haslam's time. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing
But you probably do when john gruden was on her campus. He said, you know what?
I'd rather not work for an organization that has such a weird legacy of familial interference
I'm going to go work for mark davis. Yeah, that's perfect. Uh, I I actually thought just dobs for a minute. There was good
Josh dobs is okay. I thought he was good. He had his moments. You know what tennessee
You know what tennessee has they have very good, uh early in the season prime time game colors
Yes, so when you see him playing like week one or week two and they're beating little sisters of the poor by like 50
Points, you're like this team this could be the year that they finally don't lose to florida and overtime
You also I remember when you had a clausen actually you guys were kind of still decent then that was cool
Casey I think was a casey
Casey clausen the vols are back and before long we'll be taking a bite out of everybody. We play his ass. There's our, uh
Tennessee it wasn't even roast. We actually just complimented you guys a shitload. So good job
Uh, you guys are back feels like 98 is actually a cool thing to say bless your heart
It's so fucking funny that paint manning is like the best quarterback of all time for them
And then they won the title the next year right pureless price all time name
All time name
All right, we'll see everyone on wednesday. Love you guys
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