Pardon My Take - Scott Van Pelt Live From Augusta, Rory Wins An Incredible Masters, NBA Playoffs Set, Who's Back And Monday Reading

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

An all time Sunday at August leads us to Rory McIlroy's career grand slam. We talk about the incredible drama on Sunday and the up and down play from Rory that led us to his playoff against Justin Rose. Wrapping up other Master thoughts/storylines (00:00:00-00:38:21). NBA Playoffs are set and Lebron having his shirt off offended Isiah Thomas (00:38:21-00:53:58). Tennessee loses their quarterback and we NIL has gone sideways (00:53:58-01:05:20). Who's back of the week including Paddy the Baddy, Coach Gruden in Madison, and PFT's kidney stones (01:05:20-01:30:45). Scott Van Pelt joins us from Augusta to talk Masters, Rory getting the monkey off his back, the sights and sounds from an insane 4th round and an update on the Big Texas (01:30:45-02:06:25). We finish with a Monday reading and a conclusion to Jim Nantz's wallet toast card and lottery numbers (02:06:25-02:14:27).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon music. On today's pardon my take, we recap an incredible Masters. Rory finally does it, completes the career Grand Slam. We have SVP live from Augusta, as is tradition, a tradition unlike any other. Recapping the Masters, incredible weekend of sports. We're talking some NBA playoff seeding finally set. We are going to do Who's Back of the Week. We're going to do a little Monday reading. Great, great show. The sports are great and we got to talk about it. Rory, even though The sports are great and we got to talk about it. And Rory, even though we were haters, tip your cap.

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customers get $200 in bonus bets when you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, April 14th and Rory McIlroy has done it. He has completed the career grand slam. He is your masters champion for 2025. And holy shit. That was an incredible Sunday of golf. I love that we got free golf. Yeah, that was that was the perfect cap off to a great Masters. I wish we had more free golf. I wish the playoff went on credit to us for accurately picking what was going to happen at the end of this Masters or saying it was our wish. Only almost exactly spot on with Whitney. I think the exact clip was if Rory has a five-foot putt to miss to go to a Playoff will you be rooting against him? And I said, yes, absolutely and I was and

the hate listen Sometimes as a hater you got to tip your cap and be like we got bested today The haters got bested but I come back stronger than ever though I think about the haters the haters are remarkably resilient Yeah, and I have no regrets too because there's a golf is obviously an interesting sport to root for because it's not like you're rooting For your team. There's a bunch of guys you have guys you don't have guys I would rather have a set of guys that I root for and a set of guys I hate then be like I'm just rooting for whoever wins. And then when they win, I say, what a great story. Rory deserved it. I w I was, I was hoping

that Justin Rose is going to win in that playoff, but Rory exercised every single demon with that insanely schizophrenic, uh, final 18 because he went, I think he had six birdies, three bogeys and two double bogeys. He choked multiple times, including on 18. And then he comes back and birdies 18 and wins the masters. So, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone more relieved, happy to win a golf tournament than Rory McIlroy when he won the master. So I think Rory might be his own biggest hater. That's the thing here. That's why I'm kind of okay with how it turned out. Rory loves to choke himself out. And it's like good Rory and bad Rory out there on the course.

And it's always like good Rory trying to fend off bad Rory for just long enough to make it work. Usually I feel like bad Rory is like six and three over a good Rory. And we saw bad Rory take it to a playoff against good Rory. Even to start, he went double bogey to start. Yeah. Bad Rory, he teed off on one. Yeah. Good Rory was like, fuck you. I'm not going to let you take over my day. Played pretty well. Then the nine happens. Uh, second night, second. Oh fuck. Sorry. Can we bleep that out? Bleep that out. Uh, the second nine happens and the patrons were all going up and down alongside Rory.

Because I feel like most of them were cheering him on. But then the second you see some cracks in the armor, you get that little... There's like almost excitement to see how is Rory going to choke this one out again. And then on 16 he hit it in the water on maybe the easiest shot ever. And this, my friends, is why you should never lay up. Because Rory tried to play why you should never lay up. Because Rory tried to play it safe, he laid up, then he little chip shot into the water.

If he hit that second shot with some balls, and said fuck it, I'm gonna try to win this thing, then his second shot goes in the water. And then he takes the drop and he avoids the double bogey. So yeah, that happened, he was probably pumped that Augusta doesn't allow cell phones and cameras out there. So nobody had any bad footage of it.

Didn't have to confiscate. And then on 18, going into the bunker, and when he misses that putt, there was like a groundswell of excitement in the crowd, which is like, we're witnessing history here. We're witnessing, like, nobody had thought that Rory could choke things away worse than he has in the past.

This would be an all-timer. What was that, a three-footer? Five, five or six. It looked three. It looked three on TV. So then I feel like people started to get excited. I started to get excited to see another classic Rory choke job. But then I saw he's playing against Justin Rose in the playoffs. And if it was a guy that I felt strongly about one way or the other, I think I would have liked to see that person beat Rory. But with Justin Rose, it's like, uh, Oh, we were hanging. I were watching. We were still, we were still rooting against Rory. The Justin Rose here. You should feel bad for Justin Rose. That's his third second place at the masters. The second time he's lost in a playoff, he lost to Sergio Sergio

in the, in the playoff at the masters. Uh, and also Justin Rose had 10 birdies today, 10 birdies in his final round and he lost any miss. He just missed that short putt on 17. I know there were so many incredible shots, uh, both good and bad. It was just the best. It was the best. And I like, I, so I was thinking about it because I was really bummed out when, uh, Rory had completed the 10th and I think he was four shots up and I was like, this is going to suck. There's going to be no drama. He's going to go on and win it. He didn't have to be pushed to that limit

because like Bryson just had a horrendous date. Sorry, Bryson D Shambogie, as Skip Bayless calls him, had a horrendous day, was like a total non factor after the like the fourth hole and I was bummed because I wanted if Roy was going to win the career Grand Slam I wanted to see him pushed to the brink. So any almost went in the water at 11. Yeah. That's when I was like yeah. That was when I thought the first day it's over. Yeah. He got it four shot lead avoided the water. But the fact that Rory was pushed to the brink made me even as a hater, I had to tip my cap and be like, that was incredible. Uh, like the, the career achievement, he waited 11 years to win his next major. His last one was in 2014. He was, you know, he had the four shot lead in 2011.

And I I'm just happy that he got pushed and he choked and he unchoked and he choked. And then he got like the shot of a lifetime on 15 was an insane shot. So I can I can I can lay my sword down and be like, you know what Rory you deserve that even though you choked like four times you deserve that because you bounce back after every single one. Yeah he could have quit at any point. He beat all the haters yeah including us. Yep. He beat everybody he was competing against and he beat himself but in a good way. Yeah. He beat all the haters. Yeah, including us. He beat everybody was competing against any beat himself, but in a good way. Yeah, he beat the bad version of himself. So he truly conquered the world today. And for the Rory fans, by the way, when we have Scott Van Peltan, which

we do every Masters live from Augusta, he will he will wax poetically about Rory. So you'll get you'll get all that. Jim Nance, I know laid the biggest jinx of all time waxing poetic on Rory. Oh, the 18th fairway. He did it talking about like how he grew up by the way. Shout out Rory's dad I don't know if Rory's dad had a future bet on him to win the Masters like he did the the open championship Yeah, I think he won like $400,000. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm Rory one great dad But yeah, Jim Nance was just he was laying it on he unloaded clip thick with like seven seas and they had the the graphic if he if he Didn't win that eight that playoff the graphic. Yeah him lining up his putt on the 18th It says going for career Grand Slam. Yeah would have lived in infamy. Yeah for sure also Yeah, shut out shout out skip Bayless for dropping Bryson Bryson D. Shambhogi on us. Yeah on a Sunday

That's one of the ones hand up. We missed that one But that's why skip is the man. That's why he gets paid the big bucks. I was getting accused of junxing because I was like, Rory's got this. It was right after the ball didn't go in the water. I was like, it's just his day. And then I realized like you, you have to have those moments where you're like, listen, you could, you could be a narcissist narcissist and think that you can actually affect these games, which you can't and that you jinx it and then you have to realize there's a higher power at play and his name is skip bail us because Right before I think Rory went into the water officially

He tweeted congratulations Rory for winning the 20 25 Masters and completing the career Grand Slam Extraordinary performance was I ever wrong about today and Bryson D Shambhogi. Yeah, that was he treated that on the 12th hole I think I tweeted out congrats to Rory on winning the Masters at like 10 a.m. This morning Yeah, I just I was so pumped up to see a potential Rory choke job and he did that's why I'm like not as As man if he had just waltzed into a four-stroke victory, I would have I would have been a real salty bitch right now. He really did like, he gave us all the chokes and then he still won. Yeah. So I'm like, you know what?

Fair play. Like shake hands. Good job. You gave me the moments I needed. I needed those moments where it was like, Holy shit, this is actually happening again. And then he eventually gets the grand slam. I'm happy for him that he gets the monkey off his back in that. It was a win-win. Yeah. Truly for everybody involved. Also, I don't

know if you saw this, but last night, my man Skip put this out. Rory McIlroy is the LeBron James of golf. A supremely gifted nice guy without killer instinct. Bryson DeChambeau is the Jake Paul of golf. Oh. Who isn't afraid to do it his way. Skip Ailes just definitely walks around all day looking at things. I mean, like, you know what that reminds me of? LeBron James, who I hate, by the way. It's like I think Paul, I think I think skip is in love with LeBron James. He just wants to just sees him everywhere. He if LeBron would just mention him once. Once would be great one time It did feel as a hater. Yeah, Hank

You're actually the the I think if we ranked our hater niss of Rory here You're number one, but you you defended him when he stole the young man's self. I made one side comment But I remember that was because he he thinks he's he thinks he he takes side of the players he's not just one he hates of the players. He's not But uh, I was rooting against them it felt very similar to 2016 LeBron similar where it's like you you root so hard against them and they Accomplish, you know history and it's basically it's you're never gonna be able to get your level of hate up again No, he won't he won't Lost the you know that warrior series lost the, you know, that warrior series

and like, you know, his finals record, you can always run that narrative. If Rory chokes this, the narrative never goes away. Now it's like, if you're hating, it's just, it's, it's a much harder hate. Yeah. We had to retire. Yeah. We had to retire because Rory, no matter what, he is now the sixth all time to have the career grand slam. The only the second next to tiger woods to do it in the last 50 years. So like in the modern era, he's, he's, he, and I actually think I'll say this. I think Rory might go on a hot streak. Yeah. Cause like that was, that did feel like the monkey off your back, Steve young moment where the way that went down and the, and the chokes and the un-chokes and the big shots and the shot of a lifetime, Rory might just rip off, you know,

he might get to 10 majors, I'm calling it right now. He's got nothing to lose. Yeah. When Tiger came back and won at Augusta, was it 2019? Yeah. 2018? That felt like he left it all out there.

We all kind of knew like, Yeah. This is, it's incredible that this is happening, but let's not expect Tiger to go on one of his runs. With Rory, he's been so close so recently that he's yeah He's been incredible. He's a road to Dubai. Yeah heard of it. That was more important than that's what got the monkey off his back What did you guys make of it came out afterwards that Rory refused to say a word to Bryson during the round? I kind of love that Bryson said he wouldn't talk to me at all. Yeah, I love that because Bryson probably his brain was was was

Malfunctioning being like put my PR team told me that if I do the YouTube guys will talk to me Well, he he needs the comment section to get his next jokes Yeah, Bryson was I mean I I still I bet on him to start the day just because I was like I want to bet On something and I had no other bets going and I was so I was begrudgingly a Bryson Ryder, I didn't like it a brighter a brighter. I didn't like it. He I mean so I was begrudgingly a Bryson rider I didn't like it a brighter a brighter I didn't like it he I mean he just was the notion I actually think Rory kind of rope adoped him pretty well after the first hole like after the first hole you're like Bryson's gonna win this going away and Bryson got

comfortable and then just kept on going down they did an interview with him afterwards and they're like what happened with with one of your misses I forget which one it was but he was like, yeah, you know the the wind picked up after I hit it So there's really not a lot I can do about that And then he like looks at her and goes I guess I'll just have to learn to hit the ball harder So now he's that's that's his solution for everything. He's gonna have to drive the ball farther Was that the interview that they awkwardly did during the playoff? Because there was that one where they cut to Bryson.

We're like, we don't need to hear from Bryson. Yeah, you're done. He didn't finish second. That's always such a disappointment with the last group when it's worse when both guys don't end up in competition at the very end. But when one guy just bows out, that's just sad to watch him finish the round of golf. Well, and how do you say his name? Oberg?

Oberg. Yeah. He hasn't earned the umlaut. That was tough. 18 just making everyone wait because he couldn't hit. He just thought that was great for the I thought he was icing Rory. I was I was I was pumped about it. See, this is why it's an open one. I bet on I'm going to call him a Berg until he wins. He doesn't deserve that. I bet on him. And Hank, please remind me to not bet on him to win any majors. That's tough because he's going to. But here's the thing. Did you see how he finished today? He choked last year too. And this wasn't just a choke. He could have easily been. Yeah.

He could have won. But if he had the lead outright and that's how he ended his round, people would be, let's say he was in the final group today and that's how he finished his round when he was in, he was in contention to win. People would be, let's say he was in the final group today. And that's how he finished his round when he was in, he was in contention to win. People would be talking about that as maybe the biggest meltdown outside that French guy at the open. Yeah. Or Greg Norman. Yeah. But no, I think it would be like just as bad, if not worse than Norman, the way he played those last few holes. I kept saying as a hater, I was like, you know, me and Max were in here and pick out the end, but I was like, what if he just, you know, doffed one a hundred yards in front of him?

Or like, what if he just hit a tree and it just came backwards? What big actually did that? Yeah, he did that. Like he just hit it into the bunker. Yeah. Hey, you're doing the opposite, Hank. I was, I was sitting there asking questions like, I think you will, but he's like, nah, Rory's got this every time he was like, this is easy for them up, up and down every

time. Hey, Hank also shushed us before a t-shirt. I was like, you just shushed us? We were talking about the fucking draft lottery rankings. Oh yeah, that's the other thing. We've got to figure out how to get to the lottery. Yeah. What do you mean? It's in Chicago. Is it really?

Yeah. When is it? I don't know. It's like very private, but we- That's what we were talking about. I was saying, I hope the Bulls don't make the playoffs and I can be in the lottery because I'm convinced in my dumb brain They'll rig it for the Bulls. I need to be in yeah I gotta be in that I got I got a or maybe they have an all the Wizards like who else are the Wizards gonna Ask to like step in to be the represent. Yeah Washington Wizards listen, I would love to run love the Wizards. I

Love the Wizards nobody's are with maybe yeah, I'm love to run. Love the wizard. I love the wizard. Nobody's art with baby. Yeah, I'm a bullets fan Yeah, that but the whole whatever it was Last two hours of the Masters on Sunday the whole round Yeah, all right, like the three shots swing off the jump and then it was just but especially the lat When Justin Rose started making his moves, I mean what a fucking putt on 18 to for Justin Rose, but that it was just, it was sports in its finest. Like I was just sitting there smiling ear to ear being like, no matter what happens here, it's, it's, it's, you, you know, you're watching history and ended up being real history because of his grand slam. It was great. It was great. And our boy Max T 12. Yeah, he gets automatically back to the masters

next year. Max had a great weekend. The, um, the round that he shot on Friday, I think it was a 70 that he shot on Friday. That was the best 70 that you'll ever see in your life. He was scrambling all day, somehow made it work. I'm very happy for him. I'm also very happy that JT didn't do that great. Yeah, because if JT had finished like top five His caddy is max's old caddy that broke up with him. Well just for this week. Yeah, just with his deal But still back Max doesn't need that no no no max max might be back This might be the start of the championship DVD got him pumped up. Just he's a superstar

This might be the start of the championship DVD got him pumped up. Just he's a superstar What else? Oh, I was I think we all we weren't talking about it before but I I said before the whole Sunday started and I think you'll agree with me PFT like when you're looking at who could win this Patrick Reed somehow like winning It would have been hilarious. He actually he didn't get 15. Yeah, I know the Eagle that he hold out. Yeah out Hold out. Yeah, he ended up what like third or no He had a he had a birdie putt on 15 that he three putted like he missed the miss So that is the par putt which is two shots, which did you guys see what happens to have been tied? Scotty was a little extra icy to Rory in the Butler cabin. I didn't sense that I sense Scotty being not like in a Fuck you way more in a I'm the best golfer in the world

I should be winning this every year way. You're like he's pissed off. Yeah He's gonna go on a fuck you tour because he I mean he had Saturday was what did him in what he ended up fishing fourth and he just couldn't he could not get it going on Saturday He's also gonna be the new narrative guy. He might just be a masters merchant. He's got he's got a win in major. That's not the master. Oh, you know, I'm thinking like, oh, you're just looking for the new ago last year at the US Open. Interesting. That's a big narrative that's gone now. And Scottie Scheffler, I've already seen a couple of tweets where it's like Scottie Scheffler is the best in the world. People compared him to Tiger. These are his finishes in majors and his last 10 majors. It's not the greatest. In terms of being called the greatest, he's

the number one, he's the best. You're right. That's going to be tied for second in the PGA two years ago in the US Open three years ago, but still Hank narrative he's the narrative finder. I like Scott. I like Scotty too I'm just I feel bad like it's like someone's got to take up that torch and he's He's the number one. He's an only golfer. I'm a Scotty guy I do think that golf is one of those weird sports where You get accused of like hey, why are you rooting against Roy? It's like I just can't I have to I have to pick my sides In golf, I can't be Whoever wins. I'm just gonna be like I'm so happy for them. Yeah, it's only it's more fun. If you have your side It's a weird sports like this and I guess auto racing is kind of similar where you just like pick a guy and you're like

I enjoy rooting for that one person, right? And then if they have any sort of like any semblance of beef with anybody else Yeah, then that guy is now your mortal enemy because you like rooting for that other human I know that I know that the beef has been squashed squashed with Bryson, but I did feel dirty betting on it Yeah, you should like I just I I don't really want to do this. I want to be a brighter I generally would just root for I just enjoyed I guess this is a little sick like I like chokes and like comebacks. Yeah, right. I want I want something to happen if we're gonna be invested. Journalists I don't care that much about the players per se except for a few. And but yeah,

reading is always fun. You care about the sport. Yeah, you can. Well, you care about the narratives you care about the narrative and the course like to be entertained your journalists. I'm here to be entertained You are a journalist at heart. Ah who won the journalist lottery? Do you know that I don't know? Let's see. I did see I did see there was Kyle Porter who actually like and he does a good job writing about golf He had one of those tweets this morning. I was like, dude, you, you don't really have to say all this. Um, is what I know. I know it. Yeah. This was before the round. PFT said I'm completely fine if you want to call me head of the glaze committee or whatever. When it comes to worry,

totally get it completely understand. I've seen every comment imaginable and a lot. I wish I hadn't. We all probably take it too far at times. Me possibly most of all. It is strange to cover a generational athlete like this though. Someone who could go down as one of the 10 to 15 best ever in his 150 year old sport. Someone who also lets you induce humanity at times both publicly and privately. I like Rory personally, of course, but I also think his golf and his life bring out the best in me. The best of my writing and my thinking about this stupid ridiculous game. Certainly there's a rabbit hole that you can go too far down and find yourself in too deep. You might be there.

But I would always rather err on the side, on that side than on the side of holding back my writing about a sport I've truly grown to love, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, saying he brings Rory's play brings out the best in me as a writer. I love that. That's good. Iron sharp committee, chairman of the head of the glaze committee. So I can't find out who won the, the lottery, but Jay Busby said they've just announced the winners of the master's media lottery and you're going to be getting some good.

Here's how I played Augusta stories on Tuesday So a little teaser. Hmm. Apparently it's worthy worthy selections this year. I know JJ Watts playing Yes, he's he treated that he's like I got lucky enough to be able to play on Monday. That's Ken Griffey, Jr I don't know. Did you see that? That'd be pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, he's a professional photographer So I was like this is the greatest way to backdoor your way into a tea time. He rocks Ken Griffey Jr. Yeah. I'm in Randy Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. Big, big photogs. Did you see what many people are saying might have spurned Rory onto victory? Okay, no. Yes. Oh, the reckoning? No, I was I

was gonna say he's reading a book. Yeah, the reckoning. Oh, that's the name of the book. Yeah, I liked it better when they just reported that he was reading a book. Oh, no, it's way better Okay, so it's the reckoning first page. Here's the first page. This is gonna be part of my Monday reading I have a different one for us, but this is this is the start of the reckoning It's John Grisham novel on a cold morning in early October of 1946 novel. On a cold morning in early October of 1946, Pete Banning awoke before sunrise and had no thoughts of going back to sleep. For a long time he lay in the center of his bed, stared at the dark ceiling and asked himself for the thousandth time if he had the courage. Finally, as the first trace of dawn peeked through a window, he accepted the solemn reality that it was time for the killing.

The need for it had become so overwhelming that he could not continue with his daily routines. He could not remain the man he was until the deed was done. Its planning was simple yet difficult to imagine. Its aftershocks would rattle on for decades and change the lives of those he loved and many of those he didn't. That's the start of the book. Okay, it's time for the killing. I like it. Yeah, I like that John Grisham All of his books are just the and then a random word. Yeah, you just he he's like, okay I've got a good idea for the next one. It's gonna start with the yeah And then he flips a dictionary and stops on where he's like, okay the client. Yeah. Yeah fountainhead is that one the fat? Yeah, that's also John Grisham. Yeah, I'm Grisham

Other notes from the Masters shout out Nick Dunlap. That was he actually gets my green jacket if we're giving out a personal green jacket he shot a 90 on Thursday and Basically the worst round you could possibly shoot had the yips and came back and shot a 71 on Friday without Could it easily withdrew? Mm-hmm. He was like dropping his driver on in the t-box constantly. He's my personal green jacket So I was looking up the worst rounds ever shot at Augusta. The worst round ever shot technically never happened at Augusta. Because the guy that shot it, Billy Casper, he shot in 2005. He shot 106 at Augusta. But in all time baller move, he

finishes and refuses to sign a scorecard. I love that. So it doesn't officially count. I love that. So the 106 that he shot is not the worst round ever shot there. Okay, that's that was very smart of him. Also, another note from Augusta, which is I think very important, probably the most important thing that happened for everyone who's watching. There's a huge collectible difference between Rory winning and Rose winning Masters 2025 flags would not sell out if Rose won. Badge would be half as collectible. That's what I thought of immediately when it happened. The badge, the badge half as collectible. That's from Darren Ravel.

He had an all time or let me pull this up real quick because he has his collectible That's from Darren Reveille He had an all-timer. Let me pull this up real quick cuz he half is quite he's been on one this weekend This was sent to me by our good friend and kickoff rune or Sam Schwartstein Should items this was a picture of gloves worn in the frozen for okay We can the person wore the gloves shout out Western Michigan by the way Okay, we can the person wore the gloves shout out Western Michigan by the way Maxion incredible story one going away against BU on Saturday night. So this guy scored four goals Tony Schaffler by the way shout out Said Dan Revelle says should items like this go to the Hall of Fame in an era when collectibles are becoming more increasingly valuable

They sent the gloves to the Hall of Fame and Darren saying, why are these going? Why? Why should anyone be able to enjoy these when one person can pay for the rights to only have them enjoy it? Yeah, why should the whole world be able to go visit these gloves and see history instead of just one privately wealthy person be able to put it in their house? Yeah, why can't you check out these gloves? So why is this in the Hockey Hall of Fame when I could buy it and then put it in my closet For 60 years makes a lot more sense how he had that MLK memorabilia more is like this should be in a museum, dude

More increasingly valuable is also a great sentence The other the other story I had Maybe all-time vibes guy also maybe something you need to work towards Hank the marker I didn't realize they changed their mark on so at August, if there's an odd number of guys that make the cut, they're the last pairing. The last person plays with a marker. Who's just a member at Augusta. This person plays with them, plays around with them, uh, doesn't keep their score. Also picks up anything within eight feet. Uh, But it's a really good, really, really good golfer. The guy's name is Michael McDermott. So I think they had one marker

for like 20 years. This guy took over a couple of years ago, might be an all time vibes guy. So he played with Tom Kim on the third round. Tom Kim had his best round of the weekend or of the week, a shot of 72 and then Brian Campbell today shot a 68 with Michael McDermott the marker. So that's got to be the coolest thing. We were talking about the e-bug with Whitney. The fact that there's a guy who gets to go play Sunday pins in front of the crowd is one of the coolest things ever. So also with this guy, he doesn't have the score like you said, he is not allowed to

speak to the media. Yep. And he does not get his name on the back of the caddy. Yep. So he's the guy, Michael, what's the name? Michael McDermott. He's also apparently the CEO of a financial company. Yeah. And he's a member at Pine Valley, Marion in Augusta. I looked it up. Pine Valley is Marion is the fifth best private club in the country. Pine Valley sixth. So imagine like this guy going to Pine Valley and being like, yeah, this actually is my least favorite private club because he's also a member of Augusta. What if he shot like the greatest networker of all time? That's what I was like, apparently he's an incredible golfer. But still there's plenty of incredible golfers. How do you, you know, get access to all these places to let alone then be like of all the Augusta

members to be like, all right, you're going to be the marker. I think it has to be it. Cause there's a lot of Augusta members like Bill Gates and Roger Goodell who like, you can't have them be the marker. It's got to be kind of someone a little bit anonymous and a really good golfer. But oh my God, I mean, that's the coolest. He's got to be kind of someone a little bit anonymous and a really good golfer. But oh my God. I mean, that's the coolest. He must just, and you know, he must be, he must be the most nervous person on, on move on Friday, right? Just praying for an odd number. Right. And you also like, you know, they have to do it this way because if they just got a random person, that person would talk to the media if it's an Augusta member that

that guy's never ever going to say a word to the media about anything because he doesn't want to give up his privilege. What if he shot like a 66 67 he two rounds or like what if he would have made the cut he beat their stories the previous one beat guys sometimes like there was I think there was a story about a marker beating was Jeff Knox the previous one. Yeah, the pre this guy has the course record at Augusta. And he beat a player in around and like the player got Oh, yeah, Sergio Sergio was pissed and roaring him and Rory his piss because he was already chokes. I think he beat Sergio

and Sergio was mad about it. Matt Nox would later say that Knox was the best I've ever seen on Augusta's greens ready. Garcia finished one over 73 Knox finished 72 Garcia refused to shake Knox's hand after the round. That's awesome And like Tiger Woods would go like this guy was this was the marker that I heard the story about this week like Tiger would go to this guy before every Like Masters tournament and like ask him about how the greens like yeah how they are at that time Like this guy is such a legend that guy had just if you're the marker at Augusta

You are just part of the golf course, right? Yeah, you I have a question about Augusta Hank Did they take a bunch of trees out isn't that a story hurricane? Yeah, the hurricane made a lot easier Did it at 10? I feel like there was times where Rory or anyone would hit it into the woods and then they'd go to Dottie who's phenomenal by the way. Dottie's like so soothing. I just, they'd be like, Hey Dottie, what do you see? And she'd be like, he's got a perfect look. Not much. Like he can just go right over this tower. He's got no problem. There's no trees. Not a barrack. They got to get more trees in there. Fucking tree magnet.

I just want shot tracer as part of it. the shot tracer like it initially will go right and you're like Oh, that's gonna keep going right kind of straight. Just go right in the in the fairway, but I just when you get in the woods I want you in the woods. So yeah, the hurricane took him out on 10 The guys were cutting the corner. Yeah, it was it was ridiculous there. You could see where there should be trees Yeah, get those trees back in there Get those trees back in there incredible golf tournament though Happy for Rory, but gradually I mean that a show of emotion after he did it That was as genuine and as cool as it gets even even my cold hater heart could be like man

He the the amount of room come true like the relief though there's it's it's different than a guy winning and You know if Roy had won in 2011 It would have been nothing like that Winning now the relief that he has that he finally did it because if he had spent his entire career Being the guy who was one short of the career Grand Slam. Mm-hmm. It would have haunted him. So I Yeah, I'm happy for him. I know. I know that sounds pussy because we were haters. Well, no, I mean, it was fun. We saw him choke. He choked. That was good.

I'm happy for him. I'm sad for my hate. Yeah, that makes sense. My hate is, it's over. He extinguished it. He vanquished it. What was the genesis of your hate towards Rory? Lift up which live I think I'm done with live although some of you know, they did you can't say okay, but our boys My I mean Brooks maxed camp Smith my three favorite golfers and Brooks and camp Smith that hurt a lot But it was it was the live stuff and then even like the US Open no It was really Ryder. It was the I don't know was for me. It was the open camp Smith I was rooting so hard for camp Smith and rooting for Rory missiles putz and he kept missing him He kept missing him. That was so fun. And then he did it again in the US Open. It was so fun

So it's not like a deep rooted hate a little different than LeBron, but that Open verse camp Smith was like such a fun Sunday viewing hating experience where everyone was rooting for him. He had so many putts and he just left everything so short. And then it happened again against Bryson like that. It was the US Open was shocking. Yeah. My three footer. So that was probably the genesis. Mine was the Ryder Cup hack gate. Remember the fight in the, in the parking lot. I just got very you know USA Oh fuck that it is tough when you kind of like a guy and then you have to compete against him in the Ryder Cup We're like fuck this guy then forever

He's got that that state like I I rooted against him that one time and I kind of liked it, right? And I kind of want to get doing it. Yeah, yeah Cuz I wasn't a I'm not a natural Rory hater Like I didn't have a really a strong opinion about him for whatever the first I don't know ten years of his career then Ryder Cup then the cell phone Then just some of the media stuff to live wheels out. Yeah, which actually loved Because it was just great how upset everyone was But yeah, that's where that's where mine came from. Why are you bearing the lead though? Hank?

You might be done. You might be done with from. Why are you bearing the lead though? Hank, you might be done. You might be done with live. Are you going to on the live yourself? Don't do it for the masters. Yes, I will not. I'm done with with thinking that, you know, the live guys can make it happen. Do you think there's I'm going to do it next year then? Yeah.

Yeah. Ader Max, I mean, a hater void, but it would be right. Like if the if the year that you stop doing it Yeah, do you think you don't want to miss out on that opportunity? There's anything to be said with the live guys did really well the first year that live Happened and they competed in all these majors. They did really well and then as the years have gone on Yes, cuz they they all have a ton of money and they're all playing 54 holes Right tournament? What is it? 56?

54, 54. And they're not? They're not pushed the same way? I Yes, I've come around. I've come all the way around. Who are the four aces again? It's Patrick Reed, Dustin Johnson Johnson Harold Varner and We were so close let's go Peter Uline, okay, now that he was down as a while ago Yeah, it's been two years of you trying to change a lot dude. They're going through some stuff Dustin Johnson Harold Reed Harold Varner and who's the last one? Thomas Peters, yeah, like come on Belgium All right. Let's uh, let's talk some other sports. We're gonna do more

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versus Pistons, Pacers versus Bucks. That's the East. The West is Thunderverse. The Warriors, Grizzlies, Loser versus the Kings Magic winner. Again, I hate to play in. Rockets are the two seed versus the Warriors, Grizzlies, winner. Three seed is Lakers, T-Wolves. Four seed is Nuggets, Clippers. We had crazy dramas going on during the Masters. The Warriors were trying to not be in the play and they lost an overtime to the Clippers. Thoughts boys? I'm excited for some playoffs. I do not like the play in because I've said from the beginning it is a ploy for the Jerry Rhinestinstorf type owners to convince their fan base that they've made it to the playoffs when they have not. I might like the playing game. I like

watching the tournament for one exclusive reason this postseason. Yeah. That's if the Mavericks go on a little run. Yeah. That would be very very funny to see but outside of that no I don't like the playing tournament sucks like eight seeds give it to us eight I don't like the plane tournament sucks. Like eight seeds, give it to us. Eight seeds. Don't break the nine and the 10 into it. The regular season's long. We've got a big enough sample size. We introduced this just so that we could try to get superstars in that were playing on shitty teams. It sucks. I don't, I don't like it at all. It's think about this. I know obviously the warriors can win and get in, but the Warriors are 48 and 34

There's a world where the Mavericks at 39 and 43 Could get in over a 48 and 34 right you played 82 games. It's stupid and Again, I I'm personally biased because I Jerry Reinsdorf uses the Bulls being I think this is like the sixth straight year that We've been in the playing game. It makes the regular season mean even less, which is hard to do for the NBA. Yeah. But somehow you managed, you managed to water it down a little bit more. It'd be so funny though, if the Mavericks won a run that's in the name of hilarity and just like chaos.

That's what I'm rooting for. NBA should have had the schedule today, tomorrow. Yes. Like insane, insane to go up against the masters. It's so stupid. So Hank, so we're going to do a big preview probably on Friday, maybe get windy on or a silo. Hank, you are wanting who the magic or the Hawks? I'm one of the Hawks. Okay. So wow. We've been scared of the magic. We have as bad a record against the magic as it might be the worst record we have in

the last like three years against any team. Really? Yeah. Interesting. I think we're like two and five or three and six or something in the last nine. Are you more scared of the Magic than you are of the Cavs? Possibly yeah. You disrespect the Cavs so much.

I'm not worried about the Cavs. Yeah. The Bulls could beat the Cavs. I'm not worried about the Cavs. Yeah, I The Bulls could beat the Cavs. You keep saying that and you're just You're wrong. That means you're scared of the Cavs Like that actually says that you're scared of the Cavs because you keep saying I want the Bulls to beat the Cavs I think I just say I want them to I'm just saying like the Bulls are trending Cavs are overrated again March basketball that we played a week ago and the Cavs beat us by 20 I think it's half Hank disrespecting the Cavs

Half Hank hating the Cavs and then the last is Hank being like half scared of the Cavs Yeah, three halves to Hank's hatred. I'm very excited for the West playoffs So cuz the Lakers and T Wolves gonna be great T Wolves have been playing well down the stretch I mean, I don't know where the Warriors has been playing well down the stretch. I mean, I don't know where the Warriors like Rockets old heads versus new guys. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. Well, docker revenge. Yeah, yeah. And then John Moran, the Grizzlies. I don't know. I want John to keep playing more because I want him to keep finding different ways to pull out weapons and fake weapons like throwing grenades in the crowd. I want to turn like a nuclear

weapon key. He has to get a teammate to help him do that one. Yeah, I want I want this to keep getting getting more and more violent and then Josh is being like fuck it. Fine me do whatever you want to. Nobody's talking about the Rockets. Nobody's talked about the Rockets all year. Rockets are good. Should we put some respect on the Rockets? Well, the Rockets are like the thunder last year. I would like you could just say they're really good, but they got to go through it once. I would like to officially put some part of my take respect on the Houston. Okay, can we do that respect done? They got the LeBron stopper. Yeah respect on the Rockets, but I just think that they're they're too young

Five-year playoff trout done gone James Harden no longer on the team not walking through that door, but James new guys Emey yeah good. He's a very great coach still don't know what he did. Yeah, that's kind of James, new guys. Eme. Yeah. Good coach. Eme is a very good coach. Great coach. Still don't know what he did. Yeah, that's kind of weird. But he's a good coach.

The Clippers, we should, the Clippers scare me as a, as a Nuggets fair weather fan. Anytime Kawhi is healthy. Yeah. You have to be scared of the Clippers because he still will, like, the Clippers could absolutely beat the Nuggets and then Kawhi, and then we'll get a story that that Kwai actually is hurt and he's out for the rest of the playoffs and they'll lose. And then some team will give him 200 million. By the way, speaking of Nuggets, so Friday night Jokic sealed a triple double for the

season third time ever that's happened Oscar Robinson, Russell Westbrook, Nicole Jokic for averaging a triple double in a season pretty crazy He's not gonna win MVP this year Partially because SGA has been incredible, but also little voter fatigue Does anyone want to guess what Yocich? his response to Averaging a triple double for the year was after the game Is good Pretty close. Okay. He

said it's nice. I think I didn't do that before. I don't know. I don't know what to say. It's good. There we go. It's perfect. I think I didn't do that before. He's the fucking bad. Yeah. No. Like remember when Russell Westford time it's ever happened. Yeah. Remember when Russell Westford did it and was like, w was crashing every free throw to get the rebound everything And yoke is just like it's good. I don't think I've done that. Yeah, it's good. It's nice. Very nice the the westbrook Series it from the nuggets to the clippers. Mm-hmm I feel like the team that used to have Westbrook on their

roster usually wins these types of series. I might just be making that up. It might be based off vibes, but I feel like getting to play against him every night is good for the team that used to have him because they're constantly being reminded like, thank God this guy's not on our team anymore. Yeah. Right? Yeah. He's kind of been a little bit of a different player for the Nuggets. Maybe he can just go revenge mode. He could go, but that's what I'm saying. Yes, not good when he goes revenge mode. That's actually it's bad. Yeah Do we have any thoughts on LeBron shirtless warming up? Isaiah Thomas was in tears I think is disrespectful to the game forever. I know I

Loved how upset Isaiah Thomas was this even G League? So mad he was so He was so mad. He was so, so mad about it. I don't know if you can find the clip. Yeah, LeBron, his nipples protruding. Disgusting. It was like an empty arena and Isaiah Thomas was just, he was going to cry. He might be going through some body image issues of his own.

Who? Isaiah Thomas. Yeah. The fact that he freaked out by getting this, get this jacked shirtless guy off my screen. Yeah. The fact that he gets that upset by seeing another man take his clothes off is true. Pretty suspect. Yeah. It's suspect. Yeah. We did actually get to the bottom of PFT thing with the, uh, we did. Yeah. He was jerking off in the guy's face. Jacking off. Yeah. Apparently that's gay and guys can't

check off that, that dude told us after we stopped recording He's like, oh, I forgot I I was jerking off in his face That dude has never played a team sport if he's getting upset about having a guy jack off in his face in the locker room Come on, man. All right, you play it play it max Shirts and skins what they're doing I just told me 100% objective. I would never let one of my players walk out on the floor looking like this. I mean, we are professional NBA league.

We ain't we ain't summer league. We ain't we ain't you know, at the YCA. Listen I think coaches got to go back to suits. After. I just mean. After. He almost swore. I just think. College Ampro. I just think the professionalism in our NBA league has diminished so much and and I Look, I like LeBron He hates LeBron, but to walk out on the floor Before a game with no shirt on

Come on man this where we at what we doing Now if you want to Adam Silver if you want to, Adam Silver, if you want to find somebody, find that. I love his whole thing. Cause he, I think he's in love with, with LeBron because he's like to see a man out there on the court, no shirt off. It's also funny. Working out, looking all strong. The only, the only word that comes to my mind is Fine. Yeah fine fine that man fine fine

Fine his ass. Yeah, it's also funny that I say it's obviously if I were the GM or the coach like you were both Yeah, and you and you were you were fired for bad reasons. Yeah, really bad or good reason I would say bad things but good reason I would say which pick out which do you think is less professional? Working out shirtless. Yeah, or sexually harassing your entire staff. Yeah, it's Now man Lebron should put a shirt on fine Cuz that's how sexual harassment starts. That's true. I'm walking around that shirt on he's sexually harassing Isaiah Thomas maybe that's why Isaiah Thomas had such a reaction he's like if I were the GM I'd

sexually harass him right now yeah so you can then they'd fire me you got to stop that problem before it starts some somebody's gonna fuck him oh man was so funny he was so oh yeah skip alice obviously agreed with him loved it loved it that Isaiah Thomas on NBA TV called out LeBron said he should be fine for warming up shirtless took guts to spit that truth. Isaiah has guts and you certainly can't dismiss Isaiah has as just another old school Jordan guy. Uh, that is true. He does hate Michael Jordan. He hates Michael Jordan. Yeah. But I mean, he's, he's definitely old school. Yeah. Oh, but I, I

love the part where Isaiah Thomas says, and I like LeBron because I've said the same thing. I know that as a hater when you're like, I mean, I just did it when I was like, I was happy for Rory. That's not real. You just say that as a real also in skips mind. The only reason that you could hate LeBron is if you're just supremely in love with Michael Jordan. Yes. That's why he's like, I love this. It's it's it's binary as a guess. Yeah. What do you think about the Knicks? They're they're not gonna go anywhere. I think I think the winner series, they could lose the Pistons. Knicks fans I feel like are down bad right now on this team. They're not very happy.

Because I they're like still it does feel like they're still away from the Celtics in the Cavs. Right? Far away. Yeah. We also had Sam Van Gundy. Did you see that? He called out Philly and New York. He said fair weather fans. He said they're passionate. Someone asked him like, what do you think about the love affair with the Knicks and fans and their team? He said, well, they're passionate love affair. I don't know. Love affair when they're playing well and hate affair when they're not playing well. The Knicks fans and the Philly fans, they're front running fans. They're in love with their team when they things are going well, but they'll boo their team off the floor when they're not playing well. That's not a crowd that's focused on lifting you up.

Bad sports towns. Pussy. Oh yeah. I, I couldn't disagree more living in New York for whatever we did six, seven years. Knicks fans love their team. They just fucking ex they want them to be good. And they're fans were nowhere to be found until the Bing Bong team. They always sold out a MSG. Yeah. But like they weren't vocal. Like it was once those Bing Bong side talk or whatever videos are coming out. I think that's very passionate.

That was like two years before we left before that they were nowhere to be found. I have, but there's also a difference between the Knicks fans that can afford tickets to go to every Knicks game and then the average Knicks fan. I think it's like so expensive. I think Knicks fans are very passionate. They really care. Also what Stan Van Gundy is describing that's just fans. Yeah. Like what is it what would be a good sports town then? A team that loves their shitty shitty ass games. Even when there's yeah. Yeah Oklahoma City. They still put on the shirt. They still put on their shirt. But they're good Yeah. No. But I'm saying that like in years when they haven't been good, they've still got on the shirt. But that's all they got. I know. That's the only thing

they have in Oklahoma City. If there's other sports like if the Sixers who are 30 games under 500 in March. Was that true? I don't know. I hope so. Would you rather go to that game or the Phillies that are that are playing right next door that are? Gonna be competing competing for the World Series. I was like a fairweather fan at the bank, but like what do you? Well, I agree. I agree with you. It's a dumb. I don't understand I also think this is partially because his brother coach there Yeah, also in Philly they boo you but then if they realize that they've booed you and gone too far They'll sarcastically cheer for you to try to make you better wasn't sarcastic. It was it was it was at first

It was at first. No, but then it worked Wrong simulate the lottery one time ax. Good call. Good call. We should go. Yeah Agreed. I'm excited for the NBA Plus. We will have that expert on to break it down Agreed. How about I'm excited for the NBA plus. We will have an expert on to break it down Here we go, you got a flag give us a best of seven so Washington gets the first pick on one of them, okay? So we're gonna do that a million times. No seven. We'll see who gets who gets the most. Oh Yes, it won one. Oh This is crazy This three times we've only had Philly in Washington. Philly three one. I swear to God. I said Utah. How many times does that keep going? Just

keep going. Washington three two. We'll just do it until one of you gets four. Okay. Brooklyn. Philly. Philly. 4-2. 4-2. Damn. That was, that's, that's, what are the odds of that happening? Very low.

You guys have the 10% shot at it? Yes. It's gonna be such bullshit if the Sixers get goopified. Yeah, I'm gonna be so mad. I'm gonna hate the fuck out of it. It'd be such bullshit. You're gonna see me flip instantly. It'd be such bullshit. You guys are building Duke 2.0. Bullshit if the Sixers get coupified. Yeah, I'm gonna hate the fuck out of it You're gonna see me flip instantly. They'll be such you guys are building Duke 2.0 Yeah, true

Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, I said I said it he said yeah Memes said you pass on Tatum. You'd like that Hank. You gotta get your mic on for that. Memes that was fire. That was so fire. You gotta get your mic on for that. Memes hates JJ. Should we talk about Niko at Tennessee a little bit? Yeah, let's talk about it. College, college sports, it was put into quite the turmoil on Saturday morning. Well, I had no, I, I still, I knew we were going to talk about

Sunday. I didn't, I haven't followed this. I've just seen so many people say Nico, this Nico, that Nico, this Nico, that there is so much pearl clutching about what this means for the sport. We should back up a little because... Yes, what happened, Nico got a shitload of money from the collective at the University of Tennessee to go to school at Tennessee. He was the number one recruited quarterback. They got him. They were pumped that they got him

because, can't miss prospect, Tom Frinelli, your best friend Hank, was sitting on that couch and said, Nico for Heisman, before the season started. I bet it. He did not win. It did not work because, turns out, he didn't play well at all against any good schools. He beat up on the trash cans and then he was like a very average to slightly below average quarterback in SEC play. Then his dad or his uncle's family member, I forget which one, a family member goes back to UT and says, hey, hey price the bag just went up

I know you're paying what two mil it was two and a half mil and then they wanted for they wanted four mil So they said price the bag just went up to keep Nico got to pay four million now because there's other schools that would pay that and Tennessee was like we're not gonna talk about that right now. We're still in the season In fact, it was the week of their playoff game that they had against Ohio State, right? That he was actively shopping himself allegedly to other teams. Then he does a holdout. So he doesn't go to practice and he's holding out from team activities. This is after the playoff game after

the spring game. The spring game was Saturday. And there was rumors that this was happening. and Tennessee fans now I consider myself a fall for life from from winning national championships with Doug's in Knoxville. Tennessee fans maybe weren't doing the best this week when there were reports. I think Ari Wasserman had something I think someone else had on three network had reports that this was happening and Tennessee fans were attacking those reporters and being like, this is bullshit. You're just making this up. Turns out it was all true. He skipped the practice on Friday and then didn't show to the spring game on Saturday and it's over. Yeah. So what Tennessee did was actually smart.

They came out and they said, we're moving on from Nico before Nico had a chance to be like, I've entered the transfer portal. He wasn't good enough to get a million and a half raise. Like if he had been a no doubt guy, uh, I think Tennessee would have paid him. Probably. I think they would have been like, Hey, if he was arch manning, if he was someone who has like, you have to keep them on your team because you have these title chances. I don't think he proved that. And they're like, all right, go. And now playoff it sounded like, but Nico, well their defense is really good. Nico, I think he's getting bad advice from his. So his dad is his agent, which also complicates thing because when your dad is your agent,

the one thing that your dad doesn't have to do, he's not representing other people. So he doesn't have to act in good faith in any of the negotiations. He could basically say, I'm going to burn this school because guess what? I don't have any other clients that when I come back around asking for money, they can't be like, Hey, you burn me that time. So his dad's his agent, his dad was like trying to get him more money. I think it's short sighted because Nico, if he had a really good year in Josh Hypple's offense could be a high draft pick, make a lot of money. Instead. Now he's going to have to go somewhere else and learn a whole new offense,

learn new personnel in a short window. Yeah, that's the thing. He is, um, he's not good enough to get a raise from Tennessee up to $4 million, but there's probably another school out there that's willing to throw a bag at him. Oh yeah. And say, let's see. So he's going to get4 million. But there's probably another school out there that's willing to throw a bag at him. Oh, yeah, definitely. And say, let's see, so he's going to get a raise. It's going to work out like financially okay for him this year. But Big Cat's right. Like Tennessee is probably the best place he could be if he's thinking about where he wants to get drafted in the future. And it's also, this is why I feel like this is all eventually going to get sorted out one way or another because my theory has always been that like eventually these rich guys and NIL and collect the collectives are

going to be sick of paying millions and millions of dollars to 18 year olds that might not pan out and this is kind of what happened here because Nico they they were like no we're not going to pay another million and a half so So the QB class of 2023, these are the top eight guys. Arch Manning, still at Texas. Nico, now in the transfer portal. Dante Moore started UCLA, Oregon. Jackson Arnold started Oklahoma, now Auburn. Malachi Nelson, remember he was like a camp miss. USC, now he's at UTEP. Uh, Malachi Nelson, remember he was like, I can't miss USC. Now he's at UTEP. Uh, Jaden Rashada started at ASU. Now he's in the portal. Aiden Charles started Washington state now, uh, sorry, Oregon state now at Michigan state and Austin Mack started at Washington. Now at Alabama, like it's,

it's hard to predict if these guys are going to be good. Yeah. And it's hard to give two and a half million dollars to a guy who might be like, yeah, I'm going to go somewhere else. It's a system problem. The problem is like with basically no rules whatsoever. So of course, this type of shit is going to happen. And when you gamble on like a five star recruit out of high school, they don't always hit except now guess what now you're tying a bunch of money to that person. And then when they leave

now you're pissed off because it's like, oh shit, I was told that I had to pay a million dollars to get this kid to go to my favorite school Yeah, so I could watch him play then he sucked and now I feel like I just wasted a million dollars So of course the people that are funding it are gonna be like I don't want to pay for that anymore Let's try to get somebody in the portal that's gonna come here They also he fucked over the team Yeah Because the team had a plan like they thought that Nico might be going as early as December of last year because they were starting to hear

these like things about like, Nico is, is unhappy. He's going to want more money. So they were going to try to recruit other quarterbacks, but those other quarterbacks wouldn't go to school there. Right. If Nico was still the quarterback because they're like, this guy's going to start ahead of me for a year, maybe two years. So then they couldn't, they couldn't get the roster in order for next season because they thought Nico was coming back. And then Nico's like, actually fucking I'm out. Yeah. Did you hear the rumor? Shout out Dan Lanning, ride or die guy. Like good, good guy. The rumor was that he was the one who tipped off. Josh Hypal was like, Hey, Nico's dad's trying to get him to go somewhere else.

Yeah. Like and told him that. And that's when, how Tennessee found out. I just, I think it's just, it's unfortunate because I do, I am very much in favor of the kids getting paid and they should get paid because they're bringing in billions of dollars and it's so stupid it took this long.

But I just like, this is a situation where I think he's getting bad advice and Josh Hypple's a really good offensive coach. And to have this, do this for a million and a half dollars when the alternative is possibly staying at Tennessee, doing really well under Josh Hypple and you know, your third year in the system, second year playing in the system and then maybe getting drafted high, There's a lot more money that way. Yeah. And now you don't know. I mean, it could all turn out. It could be fine. But I also think that if you're a Tennessee fan, you shouldn't worry because Josh Hypple is a really good coach. And it's also kind

of good showing that you have like, you know, you're not going to in future negotiations, you're not going to just placate everyone. Turns out one year free agency kind of sucks as a fan. We need to your contract. Yeah, it's listen, it's, it's good for the players in terms of short term, they're able to bounce around where they want. If they think in different schools, good form, and get paid a shitload of money. It's not always the best thing to transfer. But that options there, which is good thing. But as a fan, it fucking sucks,

right? It really, it really sucks. Eventually, I think that they should have trades. If you gonna have holdouts. We gotta have trades now Do you think we'll ever get to a point where we have a college football draft? Well, I think cuz that would rock trades would be cool. I think it should be like a soccer System where if you go from a smaller school to a bigger school The bigger school has to pay money to the smaller school. A loan system.

I thought you meant- So the smaller schools can actually start making money off of this. I thought you meant like youth academies. Like University of Tennessee middle school. Yeah, no, no, but- And then you recruit guys to go there when they're 11. But like college basketball specifically,

like there's a lot of the mid-majors or smaller get rated for their talent for their seniors. Why shouldn't the why shouldn't the power fives pay those schools a fee to get their player? Yeah, I think that would be awesome. It just it will never happen. A draft will never happen for college football, but it would just be funny to think about it happening. Yeah. So yeah, that's Nico. It was just crazy college football. Sad. And we're actually like Tennessee had their spring game. We're losing spring games. Spring games are going to be, I bet you in a couple of years, there'll be no spring games. Also, Hank, did you hear this one? Did you

know his name? It's I'm a Liva. That's his last Nico. I'm a Liva. I'm a Liva. Yeah. It's not I'm a stay at. Did you hear that? That's the first time. Yeah. That's one last name. Nico, I'm a leaver. I'm a leaver. It's not I'm a stay-a. Did you hear that? That's the first time that's good. Yeah, that's one of yours. That's literally everyone. Yeah, and then someone also, a fan had, on his jersey, he put tape over and said, I'm a bitch. That was pretty good.

I like that. Quick work. Hank, the day that he signed with Tennessee, everybody that didn't get him made that joke immediately. Also, Tennessee has a little bit, day that he signed with Tennessee, everybody that didn't get him made that joke immediately. Also Tennessee has a little bit, a tiny bit to, uh, there are tiny bits of blame or, or they shouldn't be a surprise because he prioritized money from the get-go. Yeah. So you can't be shocked when he prioritizes money again. Yeah. Like that was the whole reason he went

to Tennessee was like, they offered him the amount of money and and that's how it worked And that's fine But then when he turns around he's like I want more money you keep like, oh, I can't believe he did his mercy I thought he loved Knox. Yeah as a journalist. It's fucked up that their fans were running out the journalists There was a little bit. I mean look if you're a fan you don't want it to be true I think they were a lot it was right. Maybe maybe I'm just biased because of the Tennessee fans that I know. There's more than one probably. But the writing has been on the wall that Nico was probably going to

try to rake him over the coals. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was definitely in the big T knew, you know, he knew. Okay, let's do who's back of the week and then we will get to SVP. Who's back of the week is brought to you by our friends at Truly, Truly Unruly. We love Truly Unruly. It's official hard seltzer. Pardon my take. Truly Unruly Lemonade combines the high alk fun of Truly Unruly with everyone's favorite

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you or visit trulyhard seltzer.com. All right. Who's back of the week? Hank. My who's back in the week. I got a couple. All right. Oh, is it Patty the baddie starting with them? Yeah, I hear that.

I hear that accent. Oh, Patty the baddie. Oh, Patty the baddie. Dude, he's awesome. He's ripped. Like, and I, I mean. He looked so much like he looked twice as jacked and strong as when we He was first introduced to the world and more skilled like when I say he's awesome. We all knew he was awesome

He's an awesome dude But I feel like he's gotten way better at fighting He said that he doesn't like before the the very funny classic video He said that he doesn't like before the the very funny classic video When he would just bulk up eat whatever the fuck you want and then you know cut at the very last minute He actually just stays in shape now and like eats healthy and trains correctly which you know shocking like it's working for him Yeah, but yeah, he he he fucked him up good for him. I love watching Patty fight, too Yeah, and then he got into it. He got into like a little bit of a shouting match afterwards to you where he didn't really shout. He was just like, okay, dude

Yeah, okay, and we like Michael Chandler to he beat the fuck out of Colby Cove. That part sucked. He slapped Shane. Oh Yeah, it beer beer. I didn't know that night. Yeah He also he was the man at at the Olympics He was the man at beer Olympics because I remember I was just standing with Chris our friend Chris O'Connor and I just was like Was like hey Chandler Chris O'Connor says he could make you tap and then he just he just put him in our bar Right right away. It was awesome He's the man. But yeah, Patty. Um, I hope others back the week is dunking. Oh He's the man. But yeah, Patty. Um, I hope others back the week is dunking. Oh

Well, you're gonna dunk. I'm going to host a dunk contest Oh, that's kind of weird that you'd be hosting a contest for something that you can't do yet Can't you teach it's also judge also judge. Well, yeah, definitely judge. It's it's KFC dunking challenge. We have a dunk contest. We have four legitimate dunkers come in the office this week on Wednesday It's exciting. I feel like you know last week was an exciting week in the office and low-key We got another another exciting one on Wednesday. You're getting tips from Get any tips from them. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask them what they got brains love it low-key low-key No, it's gonna be high. It's gonna be pretty high key. It's gonna be exciting. Hi key. Low key We got we got we got flyers coming in the office love that very cool me and my toy a wall and gilly

Hell yes, oh, they're coming. Yeah on Wednesday. Yeah, it was the winner get him on the show 2500 yeah pretty good Okay, PFT my who's back of the week is takes Fucking takes are back. You just got stopped in your trap I got dead stopped in my tracks right before we got started taping this segment I have never even conceived of a take this hot in my brain While we're sitting here, he just goes oh my god. Oh my god. I Go oh my god, and then you guys were like what and I go this tape

Put might have been recording that moment as well What's a great great fucking take I Love what PFT really get really respect the tape. Oh my god. Oh My god Kid I maybe I I can't even fathom. I'm excited or The fact the fact that it hasn't done this could be about it hasn't done big numbers yet But I mean, I I don't understand that this is a it's insane even coming from the guy that it's coming from Greg Doyle Oh Greg Doyle from the guy that it's coming from, Greg Doyle.

Oh! Greg Doyle from the indie star. Just dropped a column. The internet, this is the end of the internet. I don't think we can go any further than this. All right, here we go. Here's the post. Master's contender Bryson DeChambeau accepted $125 million from the alleged backers of 9-11. Quarterback Nico Iamaliva sought additional millions

from Tennessee. Which of these is okay with you and why? That's the post. Then you open it up and it is a column that is heaping equal amounts of judgment on both Bryson DeChambeau and Nico. Okay. Like they're both the same thing.

Right. Can we talk about something serious without getting snagged by politics or race? Yeah, dumb question. That's always a great way to start out your article is to like, ask a rhetorical question, and then answer it saying that you shouldn't be doing this column. He loves to do those questions of himself. No chance of that not for society as a whole anyway, but how about you? How about me? Can the two of us discuss the greed of two very different Americans and the very different societal reaction to that greed? Can we talk about Nico and Bryson? Can we do it without losing our mind?

Can we do it without losing our soul? Can we agree that one size as it relates to our reaction to their greed should fit both gentlemen? Both have shamelessly chased the almighty dollar. Nico decided two million in NIL wasn't enough to play quarterback for Tennessee. One year after the state's attorney general fought for and won his right to cash in so richly. Shame on Nico.

Yeah. The state's attorney, has he no respect for the effort and the days of paperwork that the state's attorney did. DeChambeau chose to take a $125 million from the Saudi Arabia Arabian government which is believed to have funded the 9-11 attack on US soil. Only one has been largely vilified. No, not the guy bought off by the Saudis. No, I think as a society, I can say this, 24 years since it happened, we've come to the conclusion that 9-11 was bad.

Well, not only that, but we also, all the live guys got vilified hard for a while. Yeah. Really hard. That's like all we talked about. Yeah. We talked about the entire- It was a solid year. Yeah.

I'm not going to read this column, but somehow in Greg Doyle's brain, society has decided that 9-11 wasn't that bad and that Nico is worse than 9-11. Oh, you miss, he says, go Bryson. Or sorry, but the voice of public opinion has been heard on both gentlemen and overwhelmingly it sounds like this. Go Bryson. Go to heck, Nico. Sir, sir.

A second million dollars has been awarded to Nico for attending the university Tennessee. Go to heck Nico. This is also just a very dated Liv is bad take. Yeah. Like he's, he's a year and a half behind. Then like, Hey, why isn't anyone talking about these Liv guys? Does he mention the merger? No, he does not make the fact that PJ has completely around and to the point of merging with it. Right. That's like if American airlines was like, uh, MBS, let's talk Turkey here. I'd like to do a frequent flyer mile. This is such a weird, I feel like this article was written just for Henry Henry lock this article was yeah

You like a live head who hates roaring. No, I what do you mean? That's what I'm saying like you announced So my my other real who's back of the week is Kidney stones we are the number one kidney stone podcast in the United States Big cat has been you've had two bouts with the stones, right? Bouts has been, uh, stones total. I've had, I had one. And then the last time was four, one that I passed three that I think are just chilling. And that was like in the fall. And so I had my first bout right after you had your first bow. Yep. I had a baker's dozen inside me at that very synced up. I had 13 kidney stones in my system in like 2018

The first one really hurt badly to pass the second and third I felt them. They weren't nearly as bad And then I just kind of forgot about them and didn't follow up with the urologist and figured it will all work its way out Saturday I'm sitting on my couch. I'm helping Blake who's recovering from his ACL surgery quite nicely. He's doing a great job He did poop in the bed because he was super relaxed after the surgery, but that's fine He's a good boy. So I was relaxing in my living room. It was about 6 p.m. Yesterday and I started to get this bad pain, but it's not the same as the first one that I got this one was Directly located on my nuts. In fact, one nut in particular. So I was like, why does my nut hurt so bad?

And it got worse, and then it got way worse. And then I felt like I was gonna pass out and throw up. Started sweating, I was like- Did you just have permanent, you feel like you just got hit in the nut? That's it, it feels like I got kicked in the nuts all the time. But it just didn't go away.

It just, and it got worse. To the point where I was about to pass out from it. So I was like, I gotta go to the time. But it just didn't go it just and it got and it got worse. It to the point where like I was I was about to pass out from it. So I was like, I got to go to the hospital. So I go to the hospital. And then on my intake into the hospital. The lady was like, we need to get you fast pass to the back to do an ultrasound on you to make sure you don't have twisted testicles. Sometimes you're about like, I feel like some baseball players have had that. So then they do an

ultrasound on my balls Which is very it's a very strange thing and they're like if it's a twisted testicle We might have to remove the testicle, but we might be able to save it So now I'm like fuck am I gonna walk out of the bathroom one ball lighter? Which I personally would be okay with because I always feel like it's like when you look at flowers One rose looks very pretty in a vase two roses looks off. Yeah, it's all three roses looks great Yeah, but I got two nuts. I'd be okay with having one nut I could make that work also would have been yellow wristbands for everyone in the office

Yeah, yeah, it would have been hilarious for the show like just like, you know, I'm the guy with one Like have some balls and you could be like I look too soon Yeah, or like Dan Campbell goes for it on Fort down and PFD has to do the the South Park, but it's only one ball Oh memes would get so much Yeah, so so then I'm in the hospital thinking I might be walking out here a ball lighter and They do the ultrasound they tell me good news it It's not the twisted testicle by the way I don't recommend anybody get an ultrasound done on their nuts because it's very awkward,

especially when the technician's a female. They rub that thing? Yeah, they do the warm gel, and they had me get in this weird position, and it was a whole thing. Anyway, so then I go back in the room, and I don't know what's going on, but my nuts keep hurting worse and worse

and worse and worse and worse. And eventually I get a CAT scan done after like four hours in the hospital feeling awful. And it's another kidney stone, which is at that point, I was pumped. I was fucking pumped. It was a kidney stone. And I wasn't gonna have to get a nut removed. So yeah, I've been in pretty much I was in excruciating pain from like, 5pm till 3am on Saturday, the worst now I'm good until like an hour ago and it's coming back and it's bad

So yeah, hopefully I pissed this thing out tonight I've been trying to piss while we podcast today and nothing's coming out That's brutal And it you when you say because I had the same thing going to the hospital when they tell you that it's a kidney stone the same thing going to the hospital when they tell you that it's a kidney stone, it sounds stupid to be like, thank God, but a kidney stone symptoms are basically you're about to die. Yeah. Like your, your, your internal organs are about to explode. So when they're like, Oh no, you're just a fat piece of shit that probably eats like shit. And you have a bunch of salt that formed in your kidney. You'll piss it out in a few days.

You're like, thank you. Thank you, Lord. That's all I wanted to hear. Yeah. At the time I was like, I'll change anything. I'll do anything. Just get me out of the hospital. And then they're like, it's a kidney stone. You just maybe need to have like one less bowl of ramen per week. And I'm like, yeah, no deal. Yeah, no deal. So yeah, we're I mean, we've been through this before. I'll be able to get this thing out. I got multiple kidney stones, I said, but I'm okay. I'm fine with it. It could have been a lot worse. So this technically means I'm back on the clock. You're back.

We have literally gone. I had a kidney stone. You had a kidney stone. I had a kidney stone. You had a kidney stone. So I'm back. It's my turn. Yeah, they said they said multiple whiteboard in the studio. Yeah. Well, do you think it has a zero day since the last stone has passed? Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that before every podcast we we dock No, probably not. All right, cuz if anything, well, yeah, that's maybe how it gets passed back and forth We just piss it up each other's dicks all the time. But yeah, sorry, it's okay It's a it's a lot of pain, but it's not nearly as much pain as I was in on a on Saturday But didn't your household is snake-bitten. You guys are like a playoff team just one week after.

Yeah, one week after another, just roll around players getting injured. And all of a sudden the season's just over. Yeah. Well, good news is we're getting an impact player back. The El Camino is up and running. Oh, yeah. So now now we're we're living high. Yeah. But yeah, so it was it was not a fun experience on Saturday. I will not be changing anything likely about my diet That's good. Yeah, I mean I am who I am at this age. What am I gonna stop eating salt?

You know, this is the best thing that you can eat. You can't you can't do it. So Hank you're actually on the clock Yeah, yeah thought about that. No, I'm before Hank. Yeah, it's probably true I would I mean like I went to after Mike and he said I went to get a physical because I was like Oh, I should probably get this checked out Healthy isn't healthy as could be I love that. I mean little overweight but everything else My wife was actually mad at me that my cholesterol was normal. She's like, this is not right like you you eat like This is not right like you you eat like run the test again Like you can't you can't be healthy when like everyone else has to like do all these things to make sure they stay up Sorry, it is It's a funny thing when the doctor comes back in they read your labs for you and they're like yeah

It turns out your blood work is all excellent Yeah, but you're just you eat like a, and you've got gravel forming inside of your body. So it was just like, yeah, you could lose probably 15, 20, 25 pounds, but everything else, good. Is there a main cause for kidney stones? Is it salt? There's a couple of things. It could be salt.

Dehydration. It could be dehydration. It could be somewhat hereditary. There's one that I think probably is my fault. Coffee. Yeah. That could be it's anything that's like that that is what is a diuretic? No. Yeah. The nurse told me like multiple caffeine drinks a day will do I was like, well, yeah, I do. That's every day. She was like,

yeah, me too. Yeah. It's a different type of pain. Big Cat, you were very well experienced in it. It's the type of pain that people say I wouldn't wish on my biggest enemy. I disagree wholeheartedly. Yeah. This is the exact thing that you should be wishing on your worst enemy. All my enemies, I want to have this. Exactly. I want them. Yeah. Hank, yes. It feels like your, it feels like your, your, your stomach in back are going to explode at the same time. Also the doctor again for the second time told me that this pain is worse than childbirth Which I will not be saying to any women, but it's true, but it is true Yeah, and so I've given birth to like 13. I'm I'm as tough as Philip Rivers wife

Kind of kind of good lead into my question. Probably a dumb question Can women get kidney stones? Yes. Yes, I can. Okay. And they can be that's just as painful. But it's gross when they do it. It's manly when we do it. Yeah, when I stand at the toilet and scream. Yeah, that's that's the different man type shit. Alpha shit. Yeah, I think it's more. I think it's more common for men. Yeah, cuz we just go harder in life. Yeah. We just fucking live on the edges. See, because we just go harder in life. Yeah.

We just fucking live on the edges. See, I can't wait for the second time taking a piss. I hear the ping. Yeah, back at the toilet. It's gonna need to get you need to get the thing. I gotta get the shirt. They didn't give me the strainer. You feel like you feel like a gold rush guy. I would just piss into the to the strainer. I did gain a whole new appreciation though for ER staff. Yeah, by it because I had to sit out in the in the main lobby for not even that long because they rushed me back to do the ultrasound but I was there for like five or six minutes and

the the people that are in an Emergency room at like 8 p.m. 9 p.m. On a Saturday night. God bless those that have to corral them Yeah, and get them to communicate. Yeah Hell of a job. Uh, all right my who's back the week. I have two The first is going to be oh Guys lying about their weight or maybe not you see DT President Trump. Mm-hmm He's actually lost ways to 24 to 24 6 3 2 24. So that is That's awesome. That's actually lost weight. He's 224. 224. 6'3", 224. So that is...

That's awesome. That's RG3. Yeah. Maybe DK Metcalf. I love it. And I know people like getting a whole tizzy about it. They're like, this is bullshit. Listen, if your doctor says it, then it's the truth. Just like my blood works fine. What do I fucking care? I think that he does that now. Like at at first I think he was lying about it now

He lies about it because he knows that people are going to yeah fun of him for lying about yeah Because he was 230 and now he's 224 yeah the Elon there was like a article about Elon And how he's like a dumpster fire and people were accusing him of drugs and someone's from SpaceX was like no He actually gets randomly drug tested at SpaceX passes every one. That's good. Yeah. Who runs SpaceX? Elon.

Oh, okay. Yeah. His drug test is like, yep. Yeah. All of them. Good. That dude loves ketamine. Oh, and then my other who's back is our good friend and colleague coach John Gruden, because

I took him up to Madison this weekend. And I got to say it was, I was smiling ear to ear, not only because I took him up to Madison this weekend. And I gotta say, it was, I was smiling ear to ear, not only because I got to see, you know, one of my favorite teams up close, we had to spring practice, but seeing coach Gruden in his natural habitat, we Wisconsin posted his speech to the team, which was awesome. But there were so many behind the scenes, hilarious moments where like I had to keep, I had to keep like getting him to like, like we were trying to go somewhere and I had to keep like coming back and grabbing him because he would, he would talk to like the tight ends coach and he's like, what,

what are you running? Like what, what formations, what's your, what's your language? Like, and just sit there and talk to him. It was there's something that happens when you uh when you like go to like the park or you go somewhere with your little kids and if you take your eye off them for a minute they could be like on the other side of the park you're like holy shit how'd they get over there they saw a bird or they saw a squirrel. That kept on happening in practice where I would basically I was standing on the sideline and I'd look up and I'd be like where's coach Gruden and he would just be standing next to Coach Fickel, like with a call sheet, ready to call a play. And it was just the best. He had the power stance. That's like vacation for him. He was just going to visit a practice and just talking about ball.

The best was we went up to a kid who was visiting and he was, I don't know, like, I think he was a sophomore and he was, he was visiting Wisconsin and he's a running back and just Coach Gruden just went up to him. He's like, how deep you line up? He's like, I'm the quarterback. Show me how deep you line up. And that was it. That was our whole conversation. That's like, all right, good to meet you. He's wanted to know, he's wanted to know how deep they're lining up in high school football. He looks so happy just being around a football team. Yeah. And somehow, and I felt a little bit hurt. I did because we've lined up in formation for him here at work Yeah

And he doesn't have that same spunk in his step when he sees us do it as he does an actual collegiate division 1 football Team it was a little bit hurtful. Yeah, but he was smiling. He was so happy. He was so happy We were just like he was smiling the whole time. It's great to see him in it I want to I don't want to lose him, but I also When you say long you see someone that happy in that habitat, you're just like It's great to see him in it. I don't want to lose him, but I also, when you see someone that happy in that habitat, you're just like, ah. It's like if you've got a dog like a Border Collie

and you live in an apartment and your dog loves you, you have a great time with the dog, and then you take the dog out to like an open air dog park with some, maybe some wildlife running around, and you just see it immediately start to like hurt him, and you're like, that's where you should be doing Yeah, well, it's like he's a he's a he he needs to be leading men Yeah, like it's hard. It's hard to be a leader of big strong alpha men and he is like in every room

He's in he is the alpha. Yeah, and that's like hard to come by and that's what you know where he belongs Yeah, and it's also just funny watching like football guys Yeah, where he belongs. Yeah, and it's also just funny watching like football guys The amount of connections they have is just insane like he was just eight There was a guy he'd coached who was you know who he saw there's a guy whose son He coached the kids dad like all this stuff and it's just like football guys just have Just connections everywhere. I love the speech that he gave to I feel like he just he listened to Meek Mill like a month ago And he just wrote down I'm gonna talk about dreams Well, that's his speech from the Raiders hard knocks

He like kind of put all his speeches together just being like the rock, you know, we pound that right you pound that rock It's not gonna break you pound that rock It's not gonna be all of us pound that rock that things gonna smash and everybody the room was like he's right Yes coaches right 10% from from you. 4% from you. 2% from you. Okay number one everybody has dreams. I mean everybody's got dreams of winning the big 10, getting into playoffs, getting a new NIL deal. Everybody has what? Dreams. I'm into nightmares. You guys gotta end people's dreams. You understand that? Miami, Ohio is coming in here in a couple of months. You end their dreams. Okay? And then you get on with the schedule. But everybody's got dreams. Now it's your job to end those dreams and become a nightmare coming out of the tunnel. Yes?

Okay. Number two is there's a thing called the team. It's called the what? The team. The team. There's a lot of people I think in football now that aren't invested in the team. Are we clear on that? I want you to envision a big rock right here. The rock is the opponent and if you pound that rock by yourself that rock won't crack. If you pound a rock with them that rock won't crack. And that rock is Michigan. That rock is Alabama. We all got a pound of what? We all got a pound of what? Okay invest in this team and these next couple weeks before spring practice

goes away invest in your teammates man. Go out of your way to get to know each other and have a rock mentality. Point number three real quick is communication. Say it with me. Communication. It ain't good enough. It's not good enough anywhere. Coaches were not communicating good enough together.

Players and coaches don't communicate good enough together, yes? Yes, sir. Every blown coverage, every big running play, there's a lack of what on defense? Recognize the set, make the call, let's roll. Yeah? Let's communicate better. And then the last thing I'll leave you with is this.

What I've noticed is there's really good effort here. Really good. But there's a big difference between good and great. Are we clear on that? You get one shot at 20-25 that's it and as soon as you blink your eyes and open them it's over. We got to do a better job I think of working together yes I'm talking about our effort our execution our execution, our enthusiasm, and our intensity. You turn it up 4%, 2%, 8%, 10%. And that accumulation is going to turn us into a freaking nightmare.

You guys dig it? Yes, sir. Do you guys believe in each other or not? Yes, sir. Go prove it. All right? Let's go, man. Let's have a great day.

Let's go. Oh, so pumped up. But yeah, it was great. All right. Let's get to our interview with Scott Van Pelt live from Augusta Airport. Always fun to catch up with him. Talk some more masters talk some more Rory. Okay, before we do that, we got a couple ads. SVP is going to be brought to you by our good friends at NASCAR. Talladega super speedway is NASCAR's biggest, baddest track, delivering heart-pounding action. Packed racing thrills keeps drivers three-wide and bumper-to-bumper at 200 miles per hour. Playoff implications on the line, making every lap more intense. Unpredictable finishes mean anyone can take the checkered flag at Talladega.

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doing this for, I don't know, six, seven years, uh, outside of the tiger. This has gotta be tiger in 2019. This has gotta be the best. I mean, this was an incredible, incredible Sunday. I don't even know where to start other than I, we all just sat there and watched it and was like sports are the best. This is the best. Perfectly said. Did you feel like you're going to vomit? I did. Well about that, you are technically talking to a room full of Rory haters. So we were, we were very happy when this was all going down. Now as haters, we, we, we already taped the beginning of the show. Basically what I said was, uh, sometimes as a hater, you got to

tip your hat. And I was happy that he had to earn it in a way where he choked and then came back and then he choked and then he came back where it's like, he did it. He really did it. And I was satisfied at the end of being like, if he's going to do it one way, I'd rather this than having him win by six strokes and have it be a laugher. Well, I look, you said it correctly. I mean, it was, it was the rollercoaster as he described it. And the thing that was nuts and you try to make con put in context like for sports center our highlight like our first pass the highlight was 11 and a half minutes long and That's to tell the story Like I think accurately and and thoroughly right where it's the DeChambeau

Rory bit and like by the time it's over like you forget that even happened right the shambles just kind of out there and It started with like he throws up on himself in the first hole and he's behind after the second hole. And you're like, this is nuts. He's going to lose to this guy again. He's going to have to walk with him for five hours. This is going to be brutal. But then immediately he's back ahead and you're like, oh, okay, here we go. But it just, it almost felt like with Roy, for him to do it, that it was going to have to be this excruciating exercise where he would hit like the shot on 15, which is like the Sam Cassell meme, right? I mean, big brave bulls and he swoops it around.

But then you've got to make that putt for eagle. Like Tiger makes that putt for eagle a hundred times out of a hundred. But he doesn't. He just doesn't. Like Tiger makes that putt for Eagle a hundred times out of a hundred. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But he doesn't. He just doesn't. And then you're like, wait, Rose is, oh shit, Rose has a birdie. Oh my God, they're tied again.

And now he hits the shot on 17, which is incredible. No one ever hits it close on 17 when they have to make birdie to take the lead. He does. Then he hits a perfect drive and then that wedge on 18 is just, you can't do that. And he does. And then there's that putt and you just, I didn't think he'd make it. And he didn't. And at that point, I'm thinking this poor guy is going to have to live with this and he's going to become Greg Norman and someday he's going to be 50 something years old and he won't be here. And we're going to wonder how that happened. Right. But then, but then he hits the wedge and

the playoff. That's a forever shot. Like it's a shot of a lifetime. Yeah. Multiple shots. Yeah. You just described two of his shots of a lifetime today. Yeah. He had like, it was an incredible, incredible comeback for him. Uh, after it was over, you get to see a little behind the scenes, Scott. You get to see what's going on when they're not on camera. What was Rory's, what was his mentality? Like, did you see anything from him that showed relief or what were his emotions a Hundred though. I think what he was feeling Patrick was relief If dicky calls me Patrick, my name's Patrick.

I've been waiting for weeks to say that. He said it. It was almost all relief. And the thing that Andy North described to me that I find amazing, but I guess I get it, is that when you do it, and Andy didn't win the Grand Slam, obviously, but he won a couple of majors, and he's like, you feel so much more relief than joy. And like when you saw him fall to his knees and you saw him walking and just, it looked like he was,

like I've seen that look before, but it was, PFT, it was you handing me mushrooms in the wind. Like, he's just like, he's fucking like, and you're thinking, man, I just can't imagine what he's trying to process in real time. And he admitted that this was a burden. This was a lot. He was carrying this around for more than 14 years.

And everyone's asking, what are you going to do? And every year he's got to come put on a brave face and say, well, I feel like I'm ready. And then, you know, it looks like it's his time. And then all of a sudden it's not. And then it is. And then it's not. And so, you know, I'm waiting to see if I can, if I hear know it looks like it's his time and then all of a sudden it's not and then it is and then it's not and so you know I'm waiting to see if I can if I hear from Marty Smith who's gonna do the Sunday conversation with him tonight to get any insight like you know is there any sort of home run sound bite of that he'd give Marty because they have got a great

relationship but I just I thought that it was so obvious that sure there's joy in there and they're gonna get to it but clearly it was like obvious that sure, there's joy in there and they're going to get to it. But clearly it was like, just thank God I did it. Cause if he didn't today, then it would have reasonably been like, it's just not meant to be. It really was even as, as haters, like we said, it was still one of those moments when he finally sinks the putt to win it. It's like, man, this is cool because you don't know. I mean, what's the stat? I think it's two times in the last 50 years. We've had a career grand slam. You don't know how many times it's going to happen in your lifetime. And like to put it like in your, from your perspective of golf aficionado, you've been to the master so many times, like career grand

slam. Like that's, that's something really, really special. Oh, I think I said it on a sports center. Like you, you're in a group with people that are in black and white pictures that are gone from this earth. Not forgotten, obviously because the club is small and it was really like one of the really cool things about this week is the people you cross paths with. And I actually got to spend some time Saturday night with Roger Federer, who is just couldn't be, he couldn't be a greater guy. And I asked him and I said, this is really wild to me. Like when you won in 2009 to beat, to win the French Open to win the Grand Slam,

it was the sixth guy, just like Rory. And Nadal had been beaten that, like that's the guy no one could beat. And he got beaten by some guy named Robin Soderling. All due respect to Robin, could be an AWL, I don't know. I just don't know, I don't know a lot about him. But like, that's the time where you have to do this, or it's not gonna happen.

And Fed said, yeah, man, I call him Fed, we're like, you know, like that. Yeah. He's like, yeah, he's I call him Fed. We're like, you know, like that. Yeah. He's like, yeah. He's like, but you just have to remind yourself that this is what you do. This is, I've done this and just trust. I was like, yeah, but how do you sleep that night?

He's like, not well, you know, it's a lot. And Rory admitted he was nervous as hell this morning. And so to join this club, you're not just, like when CBS put the graphic up, I'm like, oh God. Right. It doesn't say to win the masters. It says to win the career grand slam and he knows that. And that's why I think that's why he didn't hit the hole the first time. Cause that the weight of that is just so immense. Yeah. I was wondering how he was going to handle that. You know, being tied for like playing in the final group going

into Sunday. When you go home on Saturday, if you're Rory and you've got this history of blowing leads, what do you do? Because there's no chance that you're going to get a good night's sleep at that point, right? You almost have to knock yourself out, be like, give me a sleeping pill at 7 PM because otherwise I'm going to be staying up. I'm not going to sleep at all.

I'm going to come into the course feeling like shit the next morning. I can't imagine the night's sleep that he had and then the start that he had today and then to bounce back from that. I wonder what happened between holes one and two, like how he managed to stop the slide at that moment. Did you hear anything about that? No, I mean, he just, the thing, and he didn't say this, but Andy did. Andy said, I think, actually he did say, he said it almost was like a jolt that woke me up. And all of a sudden, the weird thing about golf,

I think we might've talked about this through the years, is that for whatever reason, leading is just not what anyone wants to do. It's almost like NASCAR. You'd rather draft off whoever until the last turn and then take the lead when it's over, because it's a lot to carry the lead. And the thing about the sleep that I get, I'm sure it wasn't easy, but the bigger issue is that it's such a long wait. You don't go off until 2.30 in the afternoon. It's like what do you do all

day? You got a young daughter, she's up early, I'm sure. You get up, hang out, wait. You could have breakfast, take a nap, work out, have lunch, and you still have two hours till you play. And all you can do is think about the end and what happens at the end and how do you get to that? And it takes all day to get there. And all you're doing is thinking.

And so him being falling behind after the second hole, you immediately saw what happens. He birdies three, DeChambeau bogeys. He birdies four, DeChambeau bogeys. And then you're like, okay, cool, he's got a little bit of a gap here. And then he birdies nine and 10, and you're like, we're off to the races.

No, it was just never gonna be easy. So, I mean, but I don't know that the days he would tend to always be memorable, but like the back and forth and the playoff and the fact that it's Rose, I mean, the whole thing is just an incredible, incredible day of drama here. And I don't know. I'm still trying to make sense of it all. Yeah. It would have been, I said at the start of the show is the most schizophrenic 18 holes for for Rory where he had I think he his final tally was six birdies three bogeys and two double bogeys. He just the card was a disaster there's just squares circles everywhere. It

does not look like a winning scorecard. Right. Right. And so in 18 you said you just said that you kind of expected him to miss that first putt on 18 to go to the playoffs. So you thought in the moment like this is he still got one more mountain to climb where it's like he's still got one more I want to say choke but like it did feel like that where it'd be one step forward and two steps back. It I, I, I did. I, cause it's felt like it was that distance and like the shadows show you every little bump and, and, and, and imperfection in these greens, which are basically perfect. And I'm sure that it must've looked a mile long. And I, and I, the reason I thought that

is because not cause I didn't think he was capable, it's just the weight of what it was. And he admitted it. And then you saw it with how he reacted after the fact. I mean, it was just this boulder on his back. And so, and that putt, like, as we're looking at it, and again, it's fun to watch with Andy because he's like, this is actually, it's an easier bunker shot because it's on an up slope and like this is, you get this up and down seven or eight out of 10 times for sure, like he should be close and then as it runs out of steam we both look at each other

and are like oh, this is in that range where, I mean a normal human would poop their pants. Yeah. Like full on poop pants. Yeah. But you know, he didn't poop his pants, but he, he didn't hit the hole much either. And you're like, Oh my God. But to his credit, you know, he says, caddy just said to him, going back to the T, um, you'd have taken,

you'd have taken this on Monday. If I told you Monday, we'd be going back to the playoff on Sunday. And by the way, that's, that's somebody that you want. And that's Fox hole guy right there. Right. Yeah. Yeah. His caddies known him forever since he was seven years old. Yeah. Big time Fox hole guy there to be like, Hey, we'd have taken the as opposed to, Hey, Bozo, we should be putting a jacket on right now. And you should be, you should be in the Butler cabin with Jim and Scotty and chairman Ridley instead of that late, like you give him an atta boy and say, look, we're good. And then he was. Yeah.

So, I mean, in the end, I suppose in some ways it just makes it more dramatic. Maybe it makes it more fulfilling, cathartic. I don't know, but like you're, he was an all time player forever. But again, you join pictures. It's, it's guys that aren't alive anymore in black and white pictures. Um, Jack tiger and me, like that's's the club right. It's pretty good. It's pretty insane. And what about what about the shot on 15. I mean that can you put it in perspective because Nance did say on the call he said shot of a lifetime. It did feel like that was another one of those moments where he goes in the water and then he has that shot. You're like

he's just battling this and that was an incredible incredible shot but like you say you know you're watching a lot of it with Andy North Badger no big deal what put that shot into perspective and how hard that shot is. Hold on let me do it. Let me get it. Is that it. Yeah there we go. Oh actually keep the keep the keep the phone like that. That's perfect. Cause it won't, it won't travel around. Yeah. There you go. W for Wisconsin. Um, it's, it's, yeah, it's a shot of a lifetime, but again, if it, for it to be like the shot we talked about forever, you got to make the Eagle and then you don't go to a playoff. And then that's the, that's the shot we put, uh, on video

and roll forever. Instead it'll be him on his knees just sobbing. But the, like, I thought he hit it too far left, but all that did, and again, Andy just gives such great context, he said when you're hitting a hook, it actually is, it puts you in a position to, as he described, you're gonna release the club because you're, I can't technically describe it, but he just said that it benefited him to be hitting a hook.

And as soon as he hit it, he's walking after it like he did yesterday. And when Rory starts bouncing and the shoulders start bouncing down the fairway, that's when you know like, Oh shit, here we go. And I mean, when he stuffs it in there like that, like make the putt and you and it's curtains. It wasn't, but then the shot on 17 was just as good. Yeah. But then on 18, as this is the roller coaster and the, you know, it's sort of what he does. And as bad as the wedge on 18 was in regulation, the wedge in the playoff was,

you know, up right up on the, the, the little slope there pulls it back. And you know, I, if Rose makes the putt, do you think he makes the second one? Uh, I don't know. I don't think so. Although that was more of a, it was more of a, I agree with you that the initial shot that he had on 18, that is the worst distance to have to putt for a major championship from because it's enough to make you think about, I would rather putt from like two feet behind

that because then you have that little, like, you know, a little aggressiveness in your mind. Like I can make this, I can prove the haters wrong. When you're, when you're putting from like four feet, you're thinking, Oh, fuck, the haters might be right. Yeah. The entire time. And it was, and it's kind of, it's kind of PT the distance that I can't even deliver the line without laughing. Like that's how you know know you're a dumbass when you laugh at your own stupid joke. No, it's good. It's good. Before we started taping, he called me PDF, which I'm very glad that he did. That was going to be my last one, but I'm punting on the bit.

You're 100% right because it was like the distance at Pinehurst and it's different because the last one on Pinehurst was downhill and it breaks left to right for a right-hander. That's the worst putt because you just... but it was in that distance where it was uncomfortable. Yeah. And like the Rose putt is the perfect length because you got to hit it. And the birdie putt he made, I'm talking in regulation, like you got to hit it and he let it go. And by the way, he knew what was then.

He had his hat off early and looked. That was a confident look from Rose. And he's an awesome guy, who at 44 lost in a playoff twice here. Yeah. And if he would have won, it would have been an incredible story. But there wasn't one human rooting for him. Because everyone here just wanted to see Roach, except the haters. Yeah. Did you have Did you have a Rose future? No, we didn't. We just we listen, we like the storylines. And in worry choking in that way would have been hilarious. Yeah, I was

I was okay. We took our cap like all credit to him. I think the moment is incredible He's an all-time golfer. I was like a little emotional watching him be emotional But if you asked me during it like we predicted on Friday, we said we had Ryan Whitney on he's like if there's a five-footer On 18 if he misses he goes to playoff if he hits it. He's like, if there's a five footer on 18, if he misses, he goes to playoff. If he hits it, he's a master's champion. What are you rooting for? I was like, absolutely playoff 100%. That said, I was rooting for him after he got into the playoff to win, but I'm not going to lie. I was pumped when he missed that putt because it's like number one free golf. Number two, our dumb brains can continue

on with a storyline of Rory. Can't win a big one at Augusta. I mean, our dumb brains can continue on with the storyline of Rory can't win a big one at Augusta. I mean, you were there. What was the vibe like? Cause I, when I was watching on TV, I got the sense as Rory was, was falling back and, uh, and Rose was coming on, I got the sense that the, the patrons were a little bit excited to see maybe an epic collapse from Rory and maybe or at least have it be interesting at the end. I hear what you're saying. I think everyone's just like, oh we get to stay and we get to watch more and I think there's something to it'll be cool to see a playoff because it's that you just take

what's the drama of the day and you add another layer we didn't know we were gonna get. So that I'll give you. But like every time, and CBS did an awesome job showing it, every time they would post on the leaderboard the score and you saw Rory like double 13 and everyone's like, oh you saw like hands surrender Cobra hands on head like oh no. And then when they post the birdie on 17 everyone goes nuts because they know he's coming to this hole and we get to welcome him home and it's gonna be great. And then he puts it in the bunker and then they're like,

you gotta be kidding me, right? I mean, so the back and forth was like the drama builds, but like there was a lot of Rory, Rory, Rory chants and they were wanting to see it. And then in the end they did. And again, I think it's not just somebody wins the Masters every year. Like no one's won the Grand Slam since Tiger and that's been a long time. All stacked on top of another and who it was and

because he had been through all these things. This, this is the guy that, that the more people on than not on the grounds were absolutely behind. And it was his day and it is a great story. Do you think that Rory, this is like a Steve Young monkey off his back where I know he obviously has been phenomenal recently in great form, but it had been 11 years. Do you think he's going to get hot here and you're going to see, you know, another masters, another major where he just like, this is kind of breaking the valve of breaking the valve or, or breaking the seal, so to speak. A hundred percent. And I mean, I'm sure that he would say, well, I mean, I want it pebble

and I won the players this year already. I won the players before, but the counter to that is cool. You've got more money than, than you need anyway. And those tournaments ultimately in the grand scheme don't matter. And we count majors among the very best. Right. And so while the wins before were great, this is the damn burst that now frees him up to be truly like, fuck it.

Right. I'm gonna go do, like, I mean, think about it. In a way where now no one can say anything to you and someone says, hey Roy, shut your mouth. You're coming off stupid. Like, I just won the Masters and I'm good. I'm house money? No, he's got a ton of runway in front of him. He could stack three or four more of these. Quail Hollows won four times, which is where they go next. So I think we have, we tend to have this recency bias where whoever wins we say they might win a few more, but in Rory's case, unburdened from this, he could

just let it rip forever. And if he, he's got nothing, didn't, what's the, what's the Joker line and the dark night, you have nothing to threaten me with. Right. And the way he did it too, the way he did it. Like I really do think it would be different if he had run, if he had won away, run away from this, when that moment happens on 10, I believe, and he's four strokes ahead of Justin Rose and you're like, all right, this is it. There's a coronation, but to have the ups and downs and the chokes and the comebacks, like he really did do it in a way that it feels like he just freed himself from everything. I do think there's something to that. It'd be like if someone had a lead in a, in a super bowl and then they blew it, but then they won it in overtime and be like, it's almost

like you want it twice. You know what I mean? Right. And then roar with roaring almost feels like you want it three times. I know it's like he had it, then he blew it. Then he takes the lead on 15, then he makes it on 17. It's almost like four times, whatever it is, all he needed was one, he did it. And I don't know, I'm happy for him. Like I get the haters. No, we're happy for him.

Listen, we explained it, but like, you have to, when you're watching golf, like I don't, you have guys you root for, guys you don't, and- That's okay. Yeah, we don't have a max. How about, how about our good friend Matt? Who's taking credit for this? Cause this is, you know, the start of the championship DVD. We had him on first this week. Then you obviously did Wednesday with him. So who gets credit? He said I was one of his, he said I was one of his favorites. And then I said, who do you like more? And he's like big cat and PFT. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Third. Okay. All right. That's

good. So yeah. So we're so max. Yeah. Incredible week for max. Incredible week for a, Hey, by the way, we're talking about this. Have you ever talked to the marker? Yeah. He's the McDermott. Yeah. He's the friend of mine. Yeah. You can't, you can't, he can't talk to the media though, but like, is that not the coolest job ever? He's a fantastic guy. He's very, very understated and I know that he enjoyed himself. And it was a cool weekend for him. Yeah, wait, wait. So he is talking to the media. Oh, not I did. There was no interview. There was there was no I just know so so he talked to you

Sounds like there might be an opening for the marker Hank. Thanks. We're trying to get Hank that guy I know but it does seem like a very cool job Did has he ever mentioned anything about how he shouldn't play too good because he doesn't want to like take undermine anybody's confidence out there That this is it's actually kind of a fascinating concept. Like the story goes back, ironically enough, about the guy Jeff Knox that was the marker before the current guy that does it. And I believe that, Google fact-checked me on this,

because I believe that he played with Rory one year. Yes. And the story went that they were like, all right, let's play it and see how it goes. And he beat Rory. Yeah. And, and, but the, the marker's there to just be like, look, I'm here to keep pace. If you want me to put out, I will. If you don't, I won't like whatever. I'm just here so that you, and it's actually Augusta national thinks of everything and they don't want the player to be in a gigantic rush or feel compelled to have to hurry. Take your time. And so that's the job of the marker

who obviously is also a really good player. But again, the story goes that like Knox and Rory played and I think he beat him. Yeah. And so, you know, worked out okay for Rory because I don't think the marker never won the Masters and today Rory did. But yeah, I know he's an awesome dude. Awesome, uh, cause I don't think, uh, I don't think the, the marker never won the masters and today where we did. But yeah, yeah, I know he's, he's an awesome dude. Awesome, awesome guy.

He's a good vibes guy. Cause we, we noted that, uh, Tom Kim and Brian Campbell had their best rounds this week when he, when playing with the marker, do we, do we get any, uh, conclusion to the amateur that, uh, Pete and Rays Creek, is he, is he in El Salvador? What's going on? I'm not sure what happened there. I think that there was a, he thought he had cover and then there was applause at the conclusion. And I mean, I would, I don't know, but I would guess that maybe you just say, Hey, just so you know, there's actually, there's a bathroom there on 13 right behind that tee. Yeah. So maybe, maybe next time, maybe try that.

Yeah. We thought that the worst crime was him wearing the upside down Sun Devil's hat. Yep. That was a worst look for Augusta. That's a new thing that like, that's like a lot of, last couple of years, like the cool club started doing the hats with the big, whatever the word is, is, big word for your club. But the new thing is the upside down hats. I'm old and I'm out of it. I don't know what the trends are, but apparently that's the new one. It's a Jeep thing. You want to understand. It's like the bumper sticker that says if

you can read this, flip me over on a Jeep. What about Scotty? Obviously didn't get it done. I felt like maybe I was reading too much into it. The way he got out of there after the Rory putting on the green jacket, I feel like he's going to be on revenge tour. I think this is the thing about Scott. And I did a bad job today because I thought when DeChambeau hit it in the water on 11, I'm like, oh, we're done here. I lost track of Oberg and Rose and didn't even realize that they had a chance to do what they did. And all of a sudden here they came. Scheffler felt like he didn't play great, right? Fourth. Like that's how good that

guy is. Didn't really feel like it felt a little bit off. Still finished fourth. Revenge Tour, I mean, Scottie's good. I don't think he's not the sort of dude that's wired for revenge, but probably will win a bunch of tournaments between now and the end of the year for sure. But I think like the guy that doesn't win, you just want to get the hell out of the way and let whoever has his moment, particularly when it's Rory, like have the moment to himself. Yeah. Yeah. What about, what about Rory on 13 when he found the water after he laid up that was one of the worst shots that I've seen by a major champion Maybe ever so just how bad was that shot?

You can't do it can't miss like that like I hated the layup Yeah And the reason the reason I hated the layup even though he executed the layup Obviously perfect until he hit in the water is that like there's there's a saying that I've heard coaches hit in the water is that like there's a saying that I've heard coaches and I always go back to Gary Williams at Maryland and he said like if you play a certain way to build a lead and then you play completely different to protect the lead you end up often giving up your lead because you played a certain way there's a certain level of aggression. Rory hit a really nice drive on 13 and I get it you don't want to

take on the, bring a big number into play with a second shot to try to get to the green, but he could have gotten to the green. And obviously in retrospect, if you know you're going to hit in the water, you would have tried to go for the green and two anyway. But the wedge game has been, always been Rory's weakest part of his game. He saw it on 18 in regulation and he had 82 yards. That's a pigeon putt swing for anyone. He managed to let it leak right and make the one mistake he couldn't make. It didn't kill him in the end. He made four doubles. That's the most anyone's ever made to win the Masters. That swing, the swing on 18 in regulation, those are the moments that you're like,

swing, the swing on 18 and regulation. Those are the moments that you're like, I can't believe he's going to do this again. But then he goes in the bag and pulls out magic, um, time and time again. So it really was incredible. It was just, it was one of the most memorable masters I can remember. Just like sitting there the entire afternoon being like, I have to stay glued to this. I'm not even like going to take a piss because I want to watch every shot. You went piss dogs. You went piss dogs. I would love to have done piss dogs. Um, all right. Yeah. Can I ask you one? Yeah. I'm just, I'm just genuinely curious. Cause like, you guys know, I've told you this, I said it with Rastilla this week that like, this is my favorite week of the year. I love it. Being here for a million reasons. Like this weekend was incredible. The weather's perfect. The people here are awesome. The

story today was awesome. Like, are you, do you guys today was great, but like, is this an event you guys like? I mean, is it something you guys look forward to? I love, I love master's week. Absolutely up there in terms of the sports calendar. It's like, you know, if you do the sports calendar count I mean all football season but we have a March Madness Masters World Series like it's it's absolutely in there the top whatever you want to say. Hey here's six things that you can't miss. Masters are absolutely in there every single year. I sports draft. That's on it. Yeah. Draft. Oh yeah. That's on it. Sports draft. Oh, wait. Yeah, that's a good one. You know what everyone asked me about all week long?

We got to take a walk, boys. Let's do it. All right. So wait, I have a, let me, let me cue up the last question, but hold on, Scott. I, well, no, no, no, no, no, let's do this first. I'll do, when you go back, I'll do the last question. Let's see it. This is this. All right. I waited. Hold on. Where I need to tell you where I was first because it's I didn't think it up. I've been I've been greeting you from the pop Newman conference room here here in Augusta. Now, now I'm going to stroll down and let's see it. Great disappointment. Oh, no, what are the options here? No.

Oh, you know what? Scott, maybe next year. Wait, what's that in the middle? The Ruger? Ruger. Is that a gun? I don't even know what that is. Scott, maybe next year. Apparently it's a delicious vanilla wafer. I don't want to jumbo. We got the jumbo honey buns and we got the Mrs. Freshly's donut sticks. Um, but there's's there's no big Texas but there is my guy here who I want to rub it in. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe next year you skip Augusta and just come to the PMT studios. Oh there we go. We got a whole box. We got a whole box. We got two. We got to go. We'll probably get a big text. We got the whole big Texas. We got to get this sponsored by big Texas

next year. Oh, I'm good. That's good. So good. How would you describe the density of that? So dense. It's a hockey puck. It's um, yeah, it's dense. It's very dense yet airy. Yeah. 430 calories. Enjoy that. And that's just what you the density is what you want to put in your stomach Enjoy our basketball coach buddy. Yeah max Oh, yeah max you gotta go back in the room right now real quick cuz Scott's gotta go but you got to answer this real quick Yeah, but fine. I again we're good. I I'm sure Hey, did you see that like all across Maryland Twitter, uh, the clips that like a buzz is a dog buzzes, the guy was all PMT interview. We love buzz because we love them. Like it was being used all the time because he's the best. He, yeah.

I mean like sending out notes as we speak. Right. Max, you want to say sorry to her stealing Scott's coach? No, I think we're both in a good spot. Okay. I think all as well as that is end welled with Maryland Villanova. Okay. Has it ended well? Kinda. Okay. And when the crowd coaching cert, the coaching search has ended. No, this is actually like the start. Yeah. This is the start of the, of the blood. I hope that there's a little Maryland Villanova rivalry. I would love, I would love to do a home and home. Okay. So do we. Oh, I love it. I love it. All right. My last question, row back question, R H O B C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, short, uh,

shorts, everything. Uh, rollback.com promo code take. I forgot shorts. I actually have the road back shorts. They're very, very good. Um, it's golf season. Uh, rollback.com promo code take. All right. My last question. It's actually a guest question because in you mentioned this, you said that this is your favorite week of the year. Yep. Is that because you don't have to spend any time with Stanford Steve? He was wondering because that's her. I want him here. Um, every, the people want him here. We, we were going to, I'm going to build a groundswell to have him here. It's not real. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to show up. He's like, Oh yeah, I'm here with Scott and groundswell to have him here. This is not real. Yeah, this is not. Yeah, he's going to show up.

He's like, oh yeah, I'm here with Scott. And like, we don't know what you're talking about. And you're going to be on the other side of the gate. And you're going to be like, oh Steve, I'm sorry. I thought I put your name on. It's perfect. Because you know that he's not going to get there. So you're doing the whole, I'm going to start a movement to get Steve here so that you get

the credit for starting the movement. But you know, at the end of the day, this is your week. This is like taking time away from the family. Why are you trying to drive away? He asked me, he literally texted me. He texted me. I miss him. He's my favorite human. And I want him to come here because he's become like Mr. Golf. When we go to Quail Hollow next month, we're going to be wandering fairways. He's going to have a sweat towel cooking and he should be here. He would love it. He would love everything about this week. Steve would do some damage on the barbecue sandwiches and $2.00. Yeah,

he would. Yeah. Absolute carnage. He, I mean, yes, we have to fix that. So all right, we'll get, I look, the work starts right now. Okay. He, he, listen, I've just, I'm going to heat text. We said, you taped Scott yet. I said, we just started. He said, this is his favorite week of the year. He says it all the time. Is it because he doesn't have to see or be around? What is that about? I love him. Hey, listen, he's the one that graduated to game day and like we got to, Oh, there we go. Yeah. Oh, I like this. Somebody's hanging with coach Saban and you know, Pat and her be and raised and can't be bothered to hang out with little old me. I'm only on it midnight. You know,

I'm not kicking it off at noon. You know, you know what this is? This is, uh, this is something that we go through. Like when you have a week off from each other by the Sunday, you're like, man, I miss my bud. I think that's what he was doing. He was texting me and like, get back Scott. We miss you. Well, I'm going to hop on a plane and go home. And I believe Steve's on vacation. So he doesn't miss me that bad because he's not going to be there when we get back. Okay. And, uh, he's just trying to find some strange since you left him. He's going to start a podcast on a cruise strip with somebody. Yeah. We, we get, we get a shot of Stanford Steve in, uh, in Cabo with

Jim Rome. We're like, what the hell racket. All right. That's fine. I hope he has fun. Uh, are we good? Yeah, you're the best Scott. Thank you as always. Uh, sorry you didn't get a big Texas. I want to tell you this. Thank you to you guys for having me on. You know how much I love it. And it's, it's, it's, it should warm all of our hearts. How many people I see out here at Augusta national who are only say, I, uh, I can't wait to see you all with the boys tonight. Big Texas, blah, blah, blah. So this is just on the long list of traditions. Like this became one. So I look forward to it. And one year we're actually gonna go to Augusta and we'll do the show in the Pop Newman room with you live.

Yeah, we won't go to the tournament. We'll just hang out at the airport. Yeah. And then we'll just wait for you. You should, there'd be a blast and a lot of people coming through. No, you should come to the tournament though. It's worth seeing.

Yeah. And you can come with Steve and we can eat barbecue sandwiches. That sounds good. Yeah. Hank's now saying please. He's going to text me tomorrow morning. Be like, did you follow up with Scott about calling to the master? I sound like there were more birds there this year. Is that something you picked up on in person? The birds seem louder. Yeah. I heard a lot of chirps, a lot of birds, not a lot of squirrels though. Don't see it too many interesting business. Yeah, interesting. Biz has a theory about that.

Yeah. All right. Thanks, Scott. Appreciate it. Love you, boys. Be good until next time. Thanks, Scott. Scott Van Pelt was brought to you by Brex.

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Tax Act makes it easy so you can get them over with and be done for the season Okay quick Monday reading before we do lottery ball There was a really good story on golf calm Let me shout out the writer of James Colgan wrote about the only master story Jim Nance won't tell so there's a really good story Go read it on golf calm. But I wanted to bring it up because I finally feel at peace with the Jim Nance toast. Remember we had the issue where we thought it was maybe a prank, maybe not a prank, his toast style. So it turns out we find that it was a prank that he would keep a picture in it. Yeah. That would, yeah. Keep a card of his toast because he likes extra burnt. He would allegedly show to servers correct like this is when I order toast this is how I want it

And you thought that was fake so there was someone who do we have on that was like isn't this Raftery? Yeah, but I've heard that it's real Raftery said he'd never seen the card and he was like, I don't know if that's real He might have been pranking. He probably doesn't have breakfast. He's probably sure after he might get up at 10 a.m. True. So The card is a prank, but he does like his toast Nance style and he calls it Nance style Oh, I love that. So we got to the bottom of it. So this reporter went to a diner with him out in Carmel, California Pebble Beach and When he walked in he said I'll do the toast Nance style and the waitress was a newer waitress there and said and by Nance style you mean and he just said oh just put

it through the toaster twice so they got into like the the origin of this so he loves his toast extra burnt and apparently he was doing one of these stories like 10 years ago with a reporter kind of embedded with him And that's where the prank comes in. So His longtime assistant. Let me let me find. Okay, here we go Nance finds a whole ordeal deeply funny if only because the actual origin of the legend was a prank The wallet photo was a gag gift from Nance's longtime assistant Melissa Miller Yokum a photo was a gag gift from Nancy's longtime assistant, Melissa Miller. Yo come a longtime friend and co-author was the target when the two met for breakfast to conduct an interview

for forthcoming master story. Nance ordered his special brand of toast. He does like it crispy. So that's confirmed with his laminated wallet card. And he told to the reporter, I made sure the reporter saw the card. And when he asked about it, I said, well, that card has saved me a lot of hours. I told Guy, do the math with me. I eat toast six days a week, which by the way, he toasts once about once a month as I'm talking now, the toast comes out and it's not done. Now the eggs come out, but the toast has got to be sent back because it's not burned. So now I finished my eggs, but I've lost 10 minutes waiting 10 minutes 6 days a week That's an hour a week. Now, there's 52 weeks in a year

I'm rounding down that I'm saving two days a year. So that was how the whole thing happened So it was a joke and then the reporter saw it the reporter wrote it up as they didn't fact-check the joke He loves his toast extra toasty. Mm-hmm, but the actual card was a joke on a reporter it sounds like the joke was not really a joke it was like here Jim this will actually save you time and then Jim was like oh that's so funny yeah but it was like one of those serious haha jokes yeah but I'm happy we got to the bottom of it do we have to question the tie no the ties real ties giving way the tie was ties you've because saw it and he got shamed.

Yeah, it was real because he was angry that the story got out. Yes. He was like, that's supposed to be just a nice behind the scenes thing. Yeah. How much do you think Jim Nance gets paid? A lot. I think he gets paid more than you think he does. Were you guys a little sad at the end of the master's today?

Like, we only have 10 more of these? I was. Yeah. Is it 10 or 11? 11. Sorry, 11 more of these't don't cut a short We have 11 more of these that's that's gonna go by in a blink. I'm gonna guess Jim Nance gets 15 million a year. I would how many more I was gonna say 20 NFL and that's right. Yeah, so probably

Probably 35. Yeah, he gets a lot good for him. Yeah, how many more shots of a lifetime in 11 years? six Two well, I think every player Good for him. Yeah, how many more shots of a lifetime in 11 years? six Two well, I think every player Yeah, it could be 11 because every player can have their own shot of a life true It's not shot Rory can't is it Jim Nance doesn't say shot of my lifetime. Yeah, Rory can know that's he already had Yeah, he even had two yeah, he did Alright finish up numbers by the way. Three.

I'll do three. You got it, you can have it. I don't care who has it. Who has it, who got it. I got it. No, PFT got it. All right, PFT got it. Take four.

I'll take five. Someone at the airport gave SUP a big Texas, so he did get his. Love that. Yeah, he just texted us. He's like, update, someone handed me this. So, he got his big that yeah, he just texted us he's like update someone handed me this so he got his big Texas So we take 11 minus 11

What's Rory's what's something Rory's use minus 11 oh shot 73 today he is 73 his fifth major 35 years old Was he 35 years old? 44 I think it's just that no I just assumed for no he won see one the Us open toys why were you that broken up about that means? I don't know he tied Brooks. No no he was just like fuck I want to get it. I want to get it today a major all right everyone say their numbers again for three eleven 73 You were never gonna get it somebody how many majors will Rory have before memes gets it seven yeah yeah I'm gonna say seven as

well forty four sevens probably safe but mm-hmm get you at least two years well how should we do a punishment if Rory gets to seven majors before me before means yeah yeah I should punish him memes has to play Augusta until he shoots the 73 done. You can't leave though. You can't stop playing. You have to you have to move and you can't get we're not going to get you on you have to just know it's got to be on the simulator. We'll just find a simulator. You'll be on the simulator. You got you have to get married and divorced and then married again. The same woman. Yeah. Memes is never gonna get it. 90. Love you guys. So So So So Thanks for watching!