Pardon My Take - Shane Victorino, Open Championship Preview W/ Shane Bacon, Kyle Schwarber Wins The First Ever Swing Off, Mt Rushmore Of Things People Don't Care About

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

Kyle Schwaber wins the first ever ASG swing off and it was awesome. People were mad that Ohtani and Judge left the field early to get back home (00:00:00-00:09:33). Big Dumper wins the HR Derby that continues to be broken (00:09:33-00:11:11). Terry McLaurin is still a commander and PFT is not worried at all (00:11:11-00:23:56). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Paul George injured again, and Zac gets a gift from the Bucs (00:23:56-00:48:52). Mt Rushmore of things people dont care about (00:48:52-01:07:46). Shane Victorino joins the show to talk about his career, growing up in Hawaii, being an all energy guy, getting hit by a car as a kid and Max asks him a question and totally blows it (01:07:46-01:48:25). Shane Bacon joins the show to talk Open Championship and give us some picks for the last major of the year (01:48:25-02:13:09). We finish with guys on chicks (02:13:09-02:24:32).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Okay, let's go. Pardon my take. Yeah. Pardon my take. Yeah. Pardon my take. Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers. Get $150 in bonus bets instantly when you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, July 16th and Kyle Schwaber is the man. What a monster. Three swings, three dongs, three no doubters. Three no doubters. What a way to finish a baseball game.

He's the best. Yeah. So for people who didn't tune into the All-Star game, we had the first ever swing off in the All-Star game. It was tied after nine innings. They are, they fixed it after the disaster that happened what was it 20 years ago. Bud Selig stands up calls the game off. Game off. Disgrace to the United States of America. It really was, but this time they had a solution, the swing off. Each manager got to pick three guys and each guy had three swings and most home runs win

and it was Kyle Schwaber. It was Kyle Schwaber show because he hit three home runs and three swings. Absolute monsters. He's the best. I fucking love him forever. He's the best. The only and of course in in base in true baseball fashion we have a very cool thing a very cool moment and

Obviously everyone just talking about where was a tiny where is Aaron judge? Well, guess what? They were probably on a plane because Jesse Rogers reported that that For everyone saying hey, why aren't like the best home run hitters couch war is one of the best home run hitters couch or braids one of the best home run hitters competing in this? They literally left and now we have the debate of is that leaving your team is that lame? I do not care Yeah, bad bad leadership by Aaron judge at the all-star game. Yeah, nobody cares about that But I would it did feel like the National League manager was trying to win harder than the American League manager was yeah Well, I don't think I don't think they had anyone left. Pete Alonso was, that was the closer pick. Yeah, yeah. Pete Alonso, that's a no-brainer. But he had played, so Pete Alonso I think

stayed because he was going to maybe win MVP. Kyle Schwaber was the first non-pitcher to win MVP without getting a hit in the game. But that's why I think Pete Alonso stayed. It was basically guys who were in the game late or were staying because they could potentially win MVP like Pete Alonso. I think Pete Alonso stayed because he thought there might be a swing off. And this is what he secretly trained his entire career without even preparing for it. He just knew that he was putting in all those hours just hitting dingers off a batting machine, pitching machine off a coach pitch, whatever. The man has been, he's cared about the home run

Derby more than any other human being on planet earth ever has cared about winning the home run Derby. He had an opportunity. He was a closer, put him in third. He didn't even have to swing. Didn't have to swing. He's pissed off about that. Yeah, but his three run homer, like up until the swing off, he probably would have been the MVP. But it was great. I loved it. And for people like, yes, obviously, would you have liked to see Otani and judge in it? Sure. But I also like if you're an all star, you have a two day break at most. They're probably going to want to get out of town. Yeah, I can understand that. Also, Max, I would like for you to apologize for the Rangers Suarez takes. Why? Because he turned down the All-Star game. I don't know if that's true. Oh, okay. I can fact check that. I'm not going to, I'm not going to believe we're not going to. Why did the, why did I can look it up? Why did

every player on the Phillies get so upset about it? If he turned it down, just talk about Rangers Suarez here. He answered meowed. Can you answer me that? Are you counting yourself as one of the players? No. Yeah, definitely. He said he'd like to take a break. I don't blame him for that. The Phillies are pissed. When was he asked?

Was it, at what point was he asked? It was a while ago. That's a good question. It was a while ago. I just- Trying to help you here, Max. I'm also- Try to just Google, did Ranger Suarez turn down all-star rotation?

Why wouldn't this be one of the first things that people are talking about? They're still talking about that. On X, the Everything app? Yeah. With the website with the great search function? Yeah. Robert Suarez pitched in the game. There you go.

So you got an R Suarez. Now, I gotta say, I like the swing-off. Yeah! The swing-off to end a game is great. Dude, it rocks! I want everything decided by swing-offs now. Regular season baseball games, swing-off. Yeah. The swing-off to end a game is great. I want everything decided by swing-offs now. Regular season baseball games, swing-off. Child custody hearings, swing-off. Swing-off.

I obviously understand people complaining. It would have been cool if Otani was in it. It would have been cool if Judge was in it. Yeah, but I mean, let's not let that get away in the... And it's also, you know what's a simple fix? Is you just have to declare who your swing-off is before the game starts, so then you have to stick those guys can't leave Yeah, like that's just something they didn't think about And then it happened what is that our and now hopefully they'll fix it Rangers Suarez said he declined participation all-star game

Oh, that's interesting What is what what is that say? What is what does that say? I? I don't I don't understand why all the players were so mad I won't get mad because I was going off of the players being mad you had a good own team if his own teammates are gonna Freak out about it. Why would it? Why should not? Okay so So you so you're you're mad because I'm not mad you were mad because other guys I had a mad

You're just being a good team at what point what I have thought that that that was true if all of his teammates Went to his defense saying it was bullshit that he didn't get put in the all-star, right? So you again you're just a good teammate your teammates are mad. So you're gonna be mad as with them, correct? Yeah but Kyle Schorber. Awesome. He's the fucking best. Awesome. He is the best.

Also shout out Ludacris. Ludacris doing Welcome to Atlanta to start the All-Star game. Yep. Just put Ludacris on TV. I will watch it. I watched the performance twice after I got back to the office.

We did our own home run derby tonight. How are the boys feeling? Bad. Really bad. Yeah, you're gonna hear us in a few minutes where we taped in the beginning of the day and we Did our predictions and I think I think the only thing we said Hank was don't get injured and we both got injured Yeah, I said I did this to my tour my bicep blaster doing this. I'm trying enough to do that again I'm pretty sure I did and I wanted to go ten for ten

I did not go to pretend not to spoil the future episode But I was worried that you were going to ruin your swing your golf swing. That he did not out of the question. Yeah, the bicep. Yeah. Max, how do you feel? I'm okay. My hands hurt a little bit. My wrist hurts a little bit. Your piece my back hurts a little bit. But I'm I'm not feeling great. But there's no injuries. Yeah, what about you memes? My hands are torn apart. Yeah, I jam my thumb on like this. Oh, yeah memes loves that tape He was given the whole dugout that tape. Can you see your tape? We and we do not know how to use it

We were using it all incorrectly. It's an extra muscle. Yeah, someone said that to me I said it was it's just it just replaces a muscle which makes no sense I had my thumb taped up like fully wrapped for a while then I was like, this is ridiculous. I'm probably hurting myself more Zack you took some cuts. You looked good. I Didn't get any over the wall. It did make contact. Thank you guys for let me swing. That was awesome Yeah, that was fun. And and also Zack there was a moment, I'm pretty sure you were playing right field. You didn't move for like three hours. There was, the visibility got a little dicey and I was kind of stuck. I run straight to the balls when they hit the ground, but I was terrified of catching one to the face

because I could not see them. There were a couple of them where you stood still and then someone else came over and I was Saying call them off sack. That's your ball They they they tracked it way better than I did for sure. Yeah, if they're gonna track it better. They got it Speaking of home runs our guy big dumper wins maybe a little bit of a

People were a little upset about the ruling against Was it Rooker who won it screwed? Yeah. Yeah one inch, but I don't care because I love big dumper Yeah, no, that's great. And it was great for him But yeah, people were a little upset about that. I the homer derby sucks Anyway, we just we we forget every single year we tune in every year to the homerun derby and then we're like, oh, yeah You can't actually see the homeruns land and the next swing happened at the same time. And I hate the time. I hate the time. Let's go back to 10 outs. 10 outs, make it simple.

It's so easy. We love dingers. We're going to watch. That was don't don't have me trying to like, I feel dizzy trying to follow the home run Derby. It was such a, it's not broken. Don't fix it situation. Yeah. 10 outs, 10 outs, just do it every time and they just got cute with it and like the whole Extra outs thing. Yeah, if you hit it, you know far you get another extra out

It's like if Jeff D Lowe designed the home run derby. Hey, yeah pretty much. Yeah, we're gonna go to a bonus bonus route Yeah, uh, but yeah, I am happy for Cal Raleigh. He's the man. Yeah, that was awesome Yeah, it was it was cool to see him win. Sorry for giving out James Wood to you guys, but max, you know, he went first Tough situation going first. Yeah. No, that was bullshit. Yeah, that was bullshit. I was I was backing him I was telling everyone else that I was with the back. Um, yep, but it's okay 22 22 years old 22 years old 22 future faces leak It's okay. 22 22 22 years old 22 years old 22 future faces league. Right. Many are saying yes. Scotty Barnes future faces league. All right. Only other two or three other stories I wanted to hit on real quick. Terry McLaurin. I don't think that's a national sports story.

I think that's a national. That's pretty regional sports podcast. All right. Let me you know what I'll do. I don't understand. Wilson Congrats meme. Garrett Wilson. Yes ma'am. that's a national sport. That's pretty regional. Sports podcast. All right, let me, you know what, I'll do, Garrett Wilson, congrats meme, Garrett Wilson. Congrats memes. This is a great step into being a good organization. We have Sauce and Garrett Wilson locked up till 2030. Love that. While you were saying there's a couple other stories that I want you to touch on, memes were just whispering to himself, Garrett Wilson.

I was going to hit it. It was one of the three. It eliminates distractions. Now you don't have to be like is he getting traded to the Steelers? Is he getting traded to the Broncos? I would hate for that to be my wide receiver. Yeah maybe I guess it can be helpful to clear it up to me and our listeners because while we were doing the stream this news was breaking and the chat who was usually like on point with reporting real news. I opened it up and it just said Terry McLaurin retired. No, that's not true. He did not. Okay. All right. That's good. Why would they be saying that?

He might have retired because he was doing an automotive commercial at the time. Now, listen, the way things go in the NFL, you're going to have contract negotiations, you're gonna have guys that hold in guys that hold out. Typically, you don't have guys that go to do their standard Eastern Motors commercial and then use that as the platform to talk about the contract situation. But I feel like that's the last thing that Terry's got for him right now. He's like, I'm going to put some pressure on him. I'm going to talk about it at the

commercial shoot. And yeah, he sounded like a guy that was that was frustrated. Now he did not say that he wanted to play anywhere else. He said he wants to play in DC I think we're gonna work it out, but I feel like this is hardball. I Know that I think that we're gonna work it out. Mm-hmm We talked about this recently, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, and And you said it's not a problem guaranteed. I'm not worried. He'll be returning right guaranteed So I think guaranteed do I think? Seems like a bit of a step down. I

Will know he just I said I know I think I know I think Peter King put that in his column for years I know I think no he not that sounds less guaranteed that is less guaranteed than guaranteed I think I know that I'm willing to guarantee this. I Would like I would like a percent it like zero to a hundred. Where are you? Zero is like what's higher than 100 percent. 110 percent 110 percent. It's 110 percent.

That's a guarantee. I've also I've offered Terry McLaurin 50 percent of my golf winnings in perpetuity. What do we do then? So Hanko is in 40 or four thousand dollars. Yeah. If you're this confident, then you should you should put something up if he does. OK. Terry's coming okay Terry's coming Terry's coming hundred percent yes 110 percent percent don't take 10 percent I do feel like

this is gonna get ready my agent but 120 percent he also feels like he's not happy he's not happy and that's the concern because like he he has been the one guy he's played on three different team names for the Washington football clubs He's always been there. He's been great even with terrible quarterbacks. I feel like it's for him for the first time his career He's got a great quarterback. They can play with you don't want to walk away from that. Yeah, so he wants to keep playing He wants to get paid. This is probably his last big contract I think the paid is the most important part, not the quarterback thing.

30 years old, he wants to be paid, he wants to play here. I, Max, you know what, fuck it, 125%. There we go, I just wanted to get there. 125%. Wow. I put my credibility on the line. And what happens if he goes and plays somewhere else? That would be painful. that would be that would be painful that'd be very painful and

What about your your? guarantee 125 percent your word would then mean nothing if that's oh wow he's taking away your word pft But our word on this Word is his profession my credibility Which is all your your job yeah, I bar because it seems like they're ganging up on you about to say some fucking stupid They're they're ganging up on you PFT. Just remember you'll get a cat. Remember remember PFT This podcast we are always right. We're always we never get anything wrong. I never report anything We never get ahead of ourselves. No, so for you to do this would be maybe the end of the podcast

get ahead of ourselves. So for you to do this would be maybe the end of the podcast. It is something that I feel so strongly about that I'm thinking about saying something stupid. Okay. Why don't you text it to me? Okay. I'm going to text it to you. And I'll say it. Terry McLaurin, by the way, he, uh, so he is getting paid. What is he getting paid his $15 million this year with a $5 million signing bonus and then he's an unrestricted free agent next year. So he would like some money. He deserves some money. He's a really good football player.

Why wouldn't they pay him? That's a good question, Hank. So it seems like at this point, when you have a quarterback that's on the rookie contract, this is the time to pay guys. But we've gone out. We got Laramie Tunsel have to pay him. Oh my God. Yes. Yes. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Well, it doesn't count because if I say it, he didn't say it. Then he should say it. No, no, no. He should not say this. He should

not say this. I'll say it, but you can't PFT can't be held to it because I'm saying he's going to be a commander guarantee 100 to 125 percent guarantee it's going to get done I'll just role play as PFT for a second I 110 percent think that Terry McLaurin is going to be a commander and if he's not a commander I'm willing to give Max my El Camino don't say that that's stupid You love that car. Yeah. You're just getting caught up in the moment right now. It's really stupid of me.

Because Max got you all worked up. I'm going to walk that back. I'm going to make this real easy on you. I will give it back to you if you give it to me, because that seems like more of a hassle than I would really want. That's what I was thinking. Oh, wow.

That feels like the El Camino died like this morning. No, El Camino's, it's humming. It is humming. All the haters and doubters are down bad right now if they're being awful quiet. I said this was gonna be the summer of the El Camino. I think coming into this summer, I put my full faith in the El Camino.

You called it. Yeah. So Max, I'll give you my El Camino if Terry McLaurin goes somewhere else. Okay, and in good faith, I will give it back to you No, you should if he goes somewhere else, you should give it to an AWL who no no no Find a random Broncos fan and we're like, hey you can have PFT's El Camino PFT would never say that He did a bad job roleplaying

my controls. Either way, Terry McLaurin in my controls. Terry McLaurin will be controls. He's going to, we're going to work it out. It's going to be fine. It's not great that it got to this point where now he's doing like public disputes with things and saying that they haven't talked to him. They haven't made him an offer recently. It just has to work out because if it doesn't, we're done. Where is he being rumored to go? Nowhere. So he's got one year left on his contract. Do you have any other rumors? Jets?

I saw one hypothetical trade to the Jets. You got Dov Kleiman. Okay. Well, I would just like fans of other teams in the NFL maybe tweet at us and let us know if you would want to El Camino if They're mccloan played for your team. It's too big too. I just want to see it's like a little pole. Listen. Oh first thing I see Oh, hey, would you like it? You'll eat your it trade buzz. Whoa Yeah, and Terry mcc McLaurin that'd be awesome That might kill you if Hank was riding around your El Camino

Like a little paint job put Terry's number on it I Told you was stupid as shit. There's a role play. This is again. We'll still hypothetical role play the L McLaurin He's coming back of The four articles I'm seeing two of them are Patriots. Oh my god. Wow That's a lot of articles of the four of the four heavy sports You can have any SN any SN got it. What is what's the link to surprising trade? commanders to link click that one the sports Illustrated one This was probably AI. Okay, they do AI articles. Yeah, just clicks and clicks and clicks Tennessee Titans

The Tennessee Titans that would be a full-on cash grab. I would not like that. I know I Terry is a commander He's a commander. He's a red skin football team and commander for life. Yeah. Okay. When he goes into the Hall of Fame, which one do you think he goes in as Tennessee Titan? I think maybe he goes in as a football team. He's, he's gonna be he's gonna he's gonna stay in this. We're gonna work it out. Cooler heads are gonna prevail. Okay, I trust Adam Peters. I trust Terry McLaurin. Everything's gonna be fine. Stop saying it's not gonna be fine. It's gonna be so fine. I'm on your side, but I actually think we're gonna figure out. Rookie deal makes sense to pay someone like him.

Yeah, it does. Yeah. So then in theory, if you got traded to the Patriots, they would pay for him, because they got a quarterback in a rookie deal. We're not entertaining these florial creations that you're pulling out of, Hank. PFC, I want it on the record, I'm on your side.

I think he's gonna be commander. He's gonna be commander. Terry's the one uniform. Well, he's a three uniform, one city guy. Yeah. He's gonna be commander. That's the ultimate legacy. Yeah. Three different uniforms. What are you gonna say Max? No, I just, I'm

rooting for you. No you're not. Wait, who you rooting for? Fuck I guess if I root for you then I would be rooting against Hank right and you hate doing that fuck that is true I guess if I had to root for one of you. What about memes? He said there was a rumor true. So you would wait would you be upset? Hey memes would you be upset if Terry McLaurin? I guess I make sense you'd root for a PSC because like Jane Daniels you kind of on the on the record top five QB. Yes, probably need someone like Terry McLaurin That's actually definitely helps. No, yeah, actually no, you know what Jane Daniels doesn't even need Terry McLaurin still a top five

You could put Jane Daniels out with any receiving court in the NFL, top five quarterback, no doubt. We got Fastibo. Fastibo. Yeah, Fastibo. Yeah, Fastibo. Who Kittle said, by the way, looked like he was almost in too good a shape. Yeah. Yeah.

He did say that. Fast. It's exactly what he said. Right before he tried to tackle Hank, and Hank hid behind me like the cowardly little mouse he is. George Kittle running at you is one of the scariest sites like of all time. No Kittle and he is a monster. There are two guys in our life and we've, we've gotten to know a bunch of these guys and very lucky. The two guys that I will always say that like

when you are around them, whether it be drinking or just being around them and you're worried about maybe a little bit of wrestling and horseplay that will get you very very injured is it's George Kittle It's Kyle long both those guys. I'm just like I don't I'm always just kind of ready to be tackled and Have like all my insides like ripped up. I would say Vrabes too. We have variable Oh, I actually so I like broke my my pinky Like four months ago knows pinky like four months ago. No, it was probably like six months ago. Never got it really fixed because you can't really do anything. And it would hurt every time I'd shake someone's hand

for about two months. In the last four months, I've been totally fine. Hurt again, Mike variable handshake. Variable gotcha. That was it. Yeah. Just a good old variable handshake will get you. He does the combo of the handshake

and the pad on the back. Yeah. You can be wearing all the CopperFit bracelets you want. You're getting knocked off balance. All right. The last story I had was LeBron's getting a little desperate. Don't you guys think? Did you guys see the latest? Kobe Altman, the president of the Cleveland Cavaliers, got a contract extension and LeBron James quote tweeted it and he said, here's what he said, yes sir, congratulations to my brother B Weems, super proud of you man. Was this the praying?

No. Praise? No, praise, praise emoji, praise emoji, praise emoji, praise emoji, praise emoji, praise emoji, praying hands heart. That's a lot, that's a lot of emojis He wants to be a calf so bad. Yeah, so bad We talked about it later, but yeah, but he but this with this one is recently He's he's not gonna be a Laker. No

All right. Well, let's get to the later. Let's get to everything else. We got a great show We got we got Shane Victorino awesome interview.. Make sure you tune into the part where Max has a great question for him. Never meet your heroes. Never meet your heroes. Shane Bacon talking open championship Mount Rushmore. And remember Friday, take ease. Okay, before we get to hot seat, cool throne game time, there's nothing like getting to a baseball game, especially last minute. Lucky for me, I always use game time. The official ticketing partner of Barstool Sports. Game Time makes getting tickets faster and easier.

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Oh. It was first reported on this show by one PFT commenter that they were gonna be able to Play uno in Vegas for money as a casino game. It's not first. I read I read a news article I first read I heard it first on this program. Okay, so as you know first reported by PFT. Yes Uno yesterday put out a statement a rumor has come to our attention that there will be Uno tables on the casino floors in Las Vegas. Sounds wild, huh? We hate to be the bearers of bad news, but the casino floors aren't ready for us yet. We've told that while they do have tight security, it's not robust enough for Uno at this time.

This isn't a reverse card. Well, we get this sorted out and then they just promoted their Uno social club. So there's like a Uno social club that they're doing in New York, Chicago, Atlanta and Austin, but not Vegas. So it sounds like the casino put out the statement too soon. Yeah. The casino that had planned this entire room of Uno, they didn't have final agreement with Uno. Yeah.

They didn't clear it with Uno first. So PFT is right. So what's to stop them from just making a card game that's identical to Uno but not called Uno? Nothing. I guess copyright. Maybe copyright. Maybe copyright. Duo. It also would take a long time. Yeah. Cino games are built that's what we said. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cino games are, are, yeah. I think Vegas would want that either. No, especially if you can't play for money. You're just going and playing uno. That's like the last thing you want to do Yeah, who do you know here?

That's what I would call it. Mm-hmm All right good hot seat. Thanks. You just attacked PFT. Yeah, that was just a rip, but that's fine Nice hat by the way, it was it was a report that was widely reported and the casino I blame the casino their PR department Got to get these deals done before you tweet them out. Why are you wearing that hat? It's a fish it's a fish it's a fish I don't know. Oh great promo for the fishing contest Out July 24th dolphin fish dolphin fish might be I don't know what type of fish is what where'd you buy the hat?

I got it. I got it when I was fishing a couple weeks ago. You don't know what fish it is It's it's a guy was literally handing him out to me my buddies on the boat. Oh, it might be a mahi mahi Zach found it. That's a mahi mahi sure is dolphin fish Max found it good job Zack. Good job, Zack. Okay The cool throws the the Red Sox. People got mad at me for not bringing this up on Monday. The Trump Sox. What are they, 10 and 0?

They're undefeated since meeting with President Trump. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, they won 10 straight games going on the All-Star break. Coming to Chicago this weekend. Excited to see them. What's that? It's a podcast. I'm running.

I'm taking a deep breath. I took a deep breath and I was doing the running motion. I am the bandwagon is running in front of me and I'm pretty close to hopping on pretty close. We'll see how this weekend goes. Cause like a month ago you were, you had jumped off the bandwagon. I know, but then they go on a 10 game winning streak. They traded Raffield like that. That seemed to be a trade that didn't make sense at the time. Clearly it's working. They're coming together as a team you love to see that they have some crazy walk-off wins come to Chicago I'm gonna see him in person up close and personal

it might be time okay getting started playing well I think they have a tough remaining schedule I saw there was a I don't know if I have it I just saw the Cubs have the easiest schedule remaining which made me feel good But they still need to get a pitcher We could have some there's some fun fun Yeah, people are saying that about that. I mean that and that's where it's like, you know They're saying that they're not gonna make any moves the deadline and just kind of Sputter out, but I'm I'm getting close to believing and hopping right on the bandwagon. Okay, so remaining toughest remaining schedules The Red Sox have the third toughest

Scroll down the Cubs have the 28th Easiest or the third to last or the third easiest where the Phillies and Mets Phillies are right in the middle Mets are ooh seven toughest. It's some good baseball coming down the stretch, boys. Might be a collision course for the Mets-Philies Cubs. That'd be fun. That'd be great. This could be a very interesting. Very contentious.

Or the Pods. Pods are right there. The NL's pretty strong. The NL has the Mets, the Phillies, the Cubs, the Brewers, the Cardinals are not out of it. And then in the West, the Dodgers, Giants and Padres, I mean Dodgers are better, but like there's a lot of good teams in the NL. So it's going to get, it's going to get spicy. Yeah. Okay. Good job, Hank. Thanks. My hot seat is Max. Oh, I got Max on the hot seat. Yes. Because why do you have them on the hot seat? I was a PG

PG PG PG PG actually reported PG to me PG. Mm-hmm PG PG max. Yeah. No, he's probably gonna go down. Wait, what happened to PG PG Paul George Paul, George I play off P podcast P preseason P preseason P has injured himself again in the preseason. Oh he injured himself PCL something here hurt his knee in a workout and he he's probably going to go down as the biggest bust in Philly history. But the good news is we're in a major body.

Wait wait you think he's going to go down in the biggest box. No Simmons. Then Simmons was an all star. Markel Fultz Markel Foltz? Markel Foltz... Was not an all-star. Not an all-star? He had a triple-double in his rookie year, I remember that, that was cool.

James Harden? James Harden had like 50 points in an elimination game. Who's the guy you clapped for? Did they... They won that game. Who's the guy you clapped for? It's Trey Turner. Trey Turner?

Yeah, he's not a boss. I also don't think that was an elimination game. I think that was maybe game one, but in that playoff series No, it fell apart at the end. So, it was game seven. We know that. Playoff P is in the running right now for biggest bus. Can you amount Rushmore of the biggest bus in Philadelphia history? Andrew Bynum is 1-1. Did he win a championship? With theakers? Yeah. Yeah. And then he just traded a ton to get him. I don't think he played a single game. I think he got hurt and then never played a game. Okay. Playoff P. Playoff P. Markel Foltz. Yeah, Markel Faults, but I feel like rookie now Markel Faults is definitely up there Aguilar Nelson Aguilar, but that was a late that was only because of just

Jefferson yeah, what no that's what I'm rager or jail and Raylin Raylin. Sorry. Sorry Jalen rager definitely up there Carson Wentz. No Carson once Carson went because came up also great because you're definitely up there. Carson Wentz. No, Carson Wentz Carson Wentz. Carson came up also great because when you trade it. No, when you traded him, you got so much. Carson Wentz has a Superbowl. Okay. You said one a Superbowl. He's had Carson Wentz rents one a super. He was a part of a Superbowl. It was part of a Superbowl roster. Yeah, that's true. That is a fact. And it was, would have been MVP if he didn't get hurt. Uh, when you get rid of Paul George, your team does better better right. We know that from recent history. What are you going

to do. What are the six you're going to do. It's it's so crazy that the entire East has set up so perfectly for the Sixers to maybe be good and then they have this. Yeah I mean apparently apparently there's like no league there all the Sixers heads are doing the you know same thing. I'll be ready by I'll be ready by training camp. There's no ligament data. It was just a cleanup thing. And preparation for the- How do you get hurt? It just says in a workout.

Ah. In a workout. That's why you never work out. Yeah, fair. That's why you never work out. Yeah, no. Yeah, bad, really bad. Bad vibes going into the,

I mean, the East is wide open right now. Yeah. Vijay Edgecomb had one, he played one game game had 28 points. We haven't seen him since he just has the sixers There's something there's something in that room. There's something the dunk that uh the elephant Noah Esenge He got he got dunked on and there was in the summer league Bulls first-round pick It was maybe the worst graphic like worst picture you could ever see yeah The guy he's like screaming for his life as he gets yammed on the guy went full tomahawk Yeah, the ball was beyond horizontal. It was crazy

Good good search He just smelled it Esen gay Yeah, it's good. It got me to where I needed to be. Yeah. He got you to look at that picture. That's a tough picture. Listen, that's a tough visual. He basically looks like he's being assaulted. Yeah. That's bad. It's bad. Yam. Like if he had a whistle, he would blow it there. It was a bad yam. Or just having the nut of a lifetime. Yeah. Oh, good summer league talk. I do love summer league. Oh, I had a question for you guys.

Yeah. We need to establish this as a podcast. The more and more we get into it, the more it feels like LeBron James might not be a Laker next year. I would say he's not. Right? Playing a lot of golf now. Playing golf again. Playing a lot of golf. If he does go to the Cavs and the Cavs win in an East that is beyond depleted this year, we need to just already say this that doesn't count. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Like you got the Pacers that are out of it. The Bucks are probably out of it. Yeah. I kind of, I kind of want to go back to Cleveland. I can rant. It'll be so fun to ramp it back

up. You know what I'm wishing for? But Cleveland would be so dumb for them to trade for LeBron. The thing I'm rooting for, I saw a rumor that he's trying to maybe go to the Mavs to play with KD and AD or Kyrie and AD. Imagine if Nico traded Cooper flag for LeBron. That would be the funniest thing ever. It'd be very funny. I don't wish that for math since, but that would be the funniest thing ever. Yeah. I just want to establish that the East is down. Coward move if he goes to the Cavs. Coward move if he wins a title with the Cavs. Yeah. Ahead of time. Agreed. 100% agree. My cool throne is Teddy Bridgewater being a good guy. So Teddy Bridgewater got suspended.

He's a high school football coach in Miami. I think it's Northwestern, Northwestern High School in Miami. Everybody loves Teddy Bridgewater. Everyone that you've ever talked to that's been around him loves the guy. He has been suspended from his job as head coach because he paid for Uber rides, meals, recovery services

for his players last year. He asked fans to donate to help cover those expenses this year, and then he self-reported those payments to Miami of Northwestern. So apparently, he paid out of pocket $14,000 for training camp. He bought pride sets, $9,000 pregame meals, $2,000 a week. He paid for recovery for his players to the tune of a thousand dollars a week. He bought Ubers at seven hundred dollars a week and he bought the paint that goes on the field for three hundred dollars a week. Good guy.

Good guy. And now what. Why is this against the rules for a coach to do that. I don't know but it is one of the most absurd controversies. I don't even want to call it a controversy because I think everyone has Teddy Bridgewater's side. Like why can't someone try to better their community? Why is he in and Teddy Bridgewater even said, I'm not an employee, so they can't suspend me. He volunteered. Yeah. So this is all, all through like the goodness of his heart that he did this. But I think now like throughout the years we've been complaining to the NCAA, you got to pay the players. Yep. Take it, take it easy on the players. We might have to just switch up to high school football now. You got to pay the players. You got to pay the players. You got to pay the players. Hey, these guys. I like that. They're doing

Netflix documentaries. They're, they're getting thousands of views on Instagram, on their highlight reels. Pay the players. Pay the players. Pay the high school players. Teddy Bridgewater, good guy though. Pay the AAU players. Yeah, pay, listen, pay babies. T-ball. Babies should get paid.

Absolutely. Okay, my hot seat is Conor McGregor. What happened? He has his penis all over the internet because he sent a unsolicited dick pic to Azalea Banks. Couple of them. Couple of them. Which by the way, I only saw the blurred out version until Jerry O'Connell accidentally sent me and PFT a full Conor McGregor nude last night out of nowhere.

Herbert. Yep. And just said, sorry, wrong text. I don't think it was wrong text. I think he meant to mute. I think he was trying to get us, he was trying trying to get us with Connor McGregor's penis, Herbert Azalea banks, what is she known for? This stuff like this. Okay, so he he really kicked the hornets nest here Yeah I think that Azalea banks would be the last person on planet Earth that you should send a dick picture to and Connor McGregor is like

Fuck it. I'm Connor McGregor. Maybe he was trying to get his dick out. He might be that was like, cause you can't leak it yourself. So he was just doing this on purpose to be like, I want to just let everyone know that there's my penis. Yeah. That's not a bad, a bad thought because if you send Azalea Banks, as far as I can tell, she just lives to stir shit up online now. Okay. That's what she does. And Conor McGregor said it unsolicited. Unsolicited. So he might've just been expecting for this to happen. Conor McGregor, I'm starting to think he might not be a good guy. Maybe not. So a lot of stuff going on. He had a weight on one of his pictures, a weight on his penis? It was training. Yeah. He's doing some training. Does that work? Was it a weight or was it, I thought it was, I don't know.

It looked like he was doing some curls, if know I'm saying What do you got? I? Thought it was like a circumcision thing Huh foreskin like it like pulled it back. Oh I don't know wait, so he's got he's got like a piece of equipment that he uses on his hog That's what a little cock ring like yeah It looked like it like push pulled everything back like kind of like a hair tie for your cock It's hard to find the dick pic I was trying to find it. Yeah, I can't find I can't find which I just text Jerry

He'll send it to you. Is that a common thing? Like I don't know. I'm not I don't I Uncircumcised guys they they have a special ring they put on for sending dick pics. I'm circumcised So I really don't know but that's our first glance. That's what it looked like I was confused at the difference in the two pictures But the second one you could see Also kale son and he jail son, yeah, he stopped I've heard it pronounced both ways. Okay, which way have you heard Hank? I've heard jail jail. Well, I'm a phonetic guy. Yeah. Yeah, so that H has to do something Yeah, all right, so have a no-show job a star H out there. So he hopped online. Yes, that probably means it's kale Yeah, probably but I'm saying like I don't I respect the H. Yeah me too. So he said yesterday

I can't stop staring at Connor McGregor's dick. I can't stop. I've stared at this dick for the last two hours Wow He could be up he could be up for takey coming Friday in a busy day. Yeah, he did All right. My cool throne is Zack It is the summer of Zach. Zach maybe when we do guys on chicks he'll give us an update whether he's going on a date or not. But Zach I had a friend of ours hit me up and was like hey the Tampa Bay Buccaneers ever heard of him? I would like to send something to the office. And I said, well, I know that we have one massive Bucks fans fan here at Barstool Sports and his name is Zach. Can't think of

another. Look at this. They sent you a box. You want to open it on here. Bring it back to the, Oh, is that a weight at the bottom of it? Yeah. There's a weight at the bottom. Yeah. We're back to Connor McGregor's penis. I didn't see that part Zack go go back in there and open it up. Let's see what's in there cool thrown Zack Yeah, there's a weight. He was doing weight lifting. I did not see I think it's Tried to do a kegel once you just you just squeeze. Yeah, and I was just like now I don't think there's weights involved though It was one of those things that like what's more embarrassing doing kegels or coming too fast Well, it's like if you do it kegels, maybe you'll you'll increase your time from 30 seconds to 45, right?

And so I made the executive decision right away. It's like the more embarrassing thing here is having people be like hey you do kegels Yeah, rather just stay the status quo. All right, Zack in the box what's in the box what's in the box oh we got 50 seasons on the front okay so this is I believe new uniform I think I got a letter yeah okay we want to include you a special preview of the newest piece of Buccaneers history inside this box is an early look at the modern nod to the original 1976 jersey that helped define the start of the Buccaneers football. This reimagined piece of our history

is more than just a throwback. It is a celebration of where we've been and how far we have come. We're excited to share it with you ahead of the official reveal. Out of respect for the full unveiling, we kindly ask you to hold off on sharing or posting anything from this package until 10.30 Eastern on Tuesday, July 15th. You're good.

Oh, we're good. Thanks for being a part of this moment with us. And here's to the next 50 seasons of Buccaneers football. Sincerely, your friends in Buccaneers. Wow. Love that. I can keep this? Yeah.

Show it to us. It looks so sick. Oh, wow. It's so sick. Oh wow so sick. Oh wow oh Come on That thing is awesome. Oh, there's not two of them. There's another one if somebody wants a jersey I think that one was for Steven Chey. I'll take it. I asked we gotta get this to Steven. Yeah, I'll give it to Steven I'll give it to you. So sick. Yeah, oh Listen, I know you guys were ranking jerseys the other day. Yeah, and this has to get we got to go up the ladder Yeah, I mean, that's how I'm on

Say your catchphrase. It just felt right. Yeah, I pulled him out. I like the way you say it. I Appreciate you guys for this Jersey and thank you to the 10 big book in ears and thank you big cat and they see yes And Max in no memes. Thank thank you Sarah Walsh our good friend shout to Sarah Walsh for yeah yes big Sarah yeah this is sick I love it come on come on all right put it on put it on and do your hot seat cool throne it's the Baker Jersey oh those are so clean those are auto bets we gotta bet them when they when they wear those no I'm gonna give the other one to Jay we got to give the other one to Jay he'll be so mad if he doesn't oh

Oh crispy those are crispy oh oh come on Yeah, these are sake yeah Go bucks. Yeah, take off the tag You look like a poser There you go. All right, Zack your hot seat cool truck. Yes, sir. I got one for you So hot seat you guys are competing in a home run derby today I did enjoy the last home run derby and Max went 113 for 190 So I would like to Max is my hot seat today because I would like to see Max go yard again Okay, all right. Okay, that's gonna be so obviously the start of the show

We'll probably talk about it, but do we want to do predictions that will look stupid? Afterwards team max first team Hank. uh, I think Hank drafted a great team. There was no drafts Hank. Hank, Hank, I, I'm Hank's team looks pretty good. I pretty diesel. I, uh, last year I think I went nine for 10 three or four times. I'm one. I just want 10 for 10 once. Okay. That's my personal goal. Yeah. Once you find it, once you find it, you're, you're lethal. I think you guys Think you guys last year. I also tore my bicep and was on the DL for like three weeks that cannot happen I forgot you can't happen this year. How did you tear your bicep from taking a bunch of swings? I it hurt really bad like halfway through and but I found it and I just I was I got really competitive and didn't care about

The injury huge mistake. So you're caring about injuries. Yes, okay fair Uh you also feel like tearing your bias up from swinging is like kind of soft soft. Yeah, very soft Like people take that many swing like we also there also may have been like a workout suit involved that might have like fucked Up my bicep beforehand, but that's alright. Mm-hmm Like fucked up my bicep beforehand, but that's alright mm-hmm Mm-hmm all right your cool tron you did hit roughly 85 home runs last year Hank Roughly or exactly I think it's I'm exact I skipped all the way to the end of video to get the graphic I I maybe like one homer off okay. That sounds still still strong performance though. Yeah, all right I do have a quick cool thrown you guys familiar with Los Poblos TV. Yeah

Hank that's sick so Los Poblos is a is a streamer YouTube video back in it so he is what you would call anybody familiar with NBA 2k Yes, those posts would be Mount Rush from cloak all-time NBA 2k Player online great for tonight player to fantastic at for tonight as well, okay? so it's a he is a

Cool thrown today because let's pull on record big Drake fan Historically massive Drake fan and this last weekend at the Wireless Festival in London He was not only shouted out on stage, but he was also Main feed Instagram posted I loved seeing this for him I knew it was a huge moment and as someone who grew up watching Los post TV. I Love this for him. Okay, good for him cool. Hey shout out Los polos I love this because when Zack does these and I have no idea what they are the Usually like the account will Joey Camasta will be like thanks for the shout out pardon my take it is joy

That's just Joey. They'll be like thanks for the shout out pardon my take and. That is joy. That's just Joey. They'll be like, thanks for the shout out. Pardon my take. And I'll look at the person and they have like 10 million followers. Like, wow, that was actually good. Yeah, work, Zach. So, Joe Drake's his boy now. They look pretty brod up in the photo. What do you look brod up? And we talked about like, Charmander Charmeleon Charizard. It's kind of like the Rizzler and Then Los Polos would be the next next iteration and then like Los Polos his dad would be Charizard

The adult version of the Rizzler. Yeah, got it AJ big justice you mean oh the Rizzler. No, but the big the adult version of the Rizzlers big justice. No No, it's not What it's wed. So Los Polos TVs dad is is also like a guy yeah, they do they stream together Yeah, those are the same guy the exact same guy His dad has some fucking the whole areas whole areas clips. Where is the man? So it's Dave Portnoy and mr. Portnoy Yeah, I guess yeah, okay. It's gonna be crazy when Zach's a bigger streamer than all these guys Yeah, crazy. It's gonna be crazy. Not a chance Los Polos is gonna Hall of Fame all-time stamp

Oh, yeah, let's post a guy wait. How long you been watching Los Polos many a many a year What's your favorite moment from Los Polos? Anything to K related also when it's a running thing he reads reads threats from the chat and they're always hilarious. He reads threats Yes, okay Wait, so he was just nasty at 2k Yeah, he's great at the game and also like he just it builds a sense of like you're playing a game You're also watching lows played a game. It's like a Yeah, it was like you're hanging out. Yeah, I love that. Love that

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What are the standings? I forget. So they give it to us. 13, 12, 11. 13, 12, 11. Oh, shit! I just saw memes send us Conor McGregor's cock. 13, 12, 11. 13 maximum memes, 12

PFT Hank, 11 Big Cat. It's anyone's game. We got our first win. Alright, today we're doing the Mount Rushmore of things people don't care about. Is that correctly phrased? Alright today we're doing the Mount Rushmore of things people don't care about Is that correctly phrased stuff Stuff no one cares about stuff. No one cares about Okay, who is up first? Is it us? That'd be big cat and Zack Okay, then me and max are second and then it's going counter clock or well, no, we're all well

Yeah, we can't do that. We're all screwed up on this. By the way, I just want to say a caveat before. I think it's very cool to care about things. This is not an indictment on caring. Caring is cool. Everyone has things they love and care about. But this is just stuff people don't care about. OK. The first pick, we will take your fantasy team.

Don't care about your fantasy team. It's a good pick. I don't know how the phrasing is. So is it going to say your fantasy team? Yeah, I think your fantasy teams. You could pick. I don't know how the phrasing. So is it going to say your fantasy? Yeah, I think all of it is going to be like your yes. I think. Yeah. Okay. Or is it someone else or fantasy team? I guess yeah. I think it has to be your fantasy. Yeah. I think it's your has to be. I think we can just do that for all for most of most of most of us. Yeah. Okay. What are you thinking? Did you guys have that on your list? Yeah, we did Yeah, we all I think the first couple are on everyone's list. We're gonna go your dreams. Mmm. Okay. Yeah one

Alright, so we're gonna double up. Yeah here. Yeah, we're gonna double up I think Hank I think we go number three and then number two. I trust you wholeheartedly Okay, your parlay. Mmm. Add it. Gonna take that and then on the way back, COVID. Mm. Okay. No one cares about it anymore. Yep. That's a good one. That's true. Um, I have imagine all the people. I'm going to, I'm going to accept a veto on this next pick. Okay. All right, veto. Ooh, ooh. Auto-veto? No, give it to us. It's just that these two things are so similar

that I want, that I understand, but they're, whatever. I will say your dog slash child photos. No, it's gotta be one or the other. Okay, I will take. They're not that similar. They're not similar. No, they're pretty much the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. One's a dog. But it pretty much the same thing. Yeah, yeah Yeah, one dog. Well, yeah, but it's like the same. It's you have a dog. It's the exact same thing raising it

I'll be as it is. Maybe no, but it's just but it's the pay It's the picture of like whatever I will I will take your child your child's photos. Okay. Okay. Okay? It seems a little cold-hearted Yeah, but that I mean that's the unit that's max hates kids Can I take a human being into this world? That's like the hardest thing someone can do okay you That's my back. That's pretty disrespectful to your mom. That's my pick That is very just your mom like if your mom posts on Facebook. You're like mom. Why are you posting this bullshit? It's actually disrespectful to all moms. Yeah

Mm-hmm. Sounds like you dogs on the other hand. Yeah fair point What do we do here Zach? Do you like eight or there's eight not strong enough we do have some other hitters maybe Yeah, we do have some hitters. We have a couple hitters Man this is tough. This is tough. This is where it gets tough. This is where it gets tough. That one was taken. I think one too. That one is very, so have your one one. Yeah, we still do. Well, we've, we didn't order it exactly the right way, but, uh, I do think that one is, I, I, I think, I think one in four, one in two four so yeah, okay place alright, so there's a little different than the kids photos

Don't care about your kids Sports accomplishments like when people are like oh my kid did awesome in you know T-ball or like this like I know when I say it to someone there I'm like this is the most boring thing I could possibly tell someone yeah, it's participation trophy right right until they're like 13 or 14 you sports like if they're in high school Yeah, could be something yeah when you're like yeah, my kid had a double in t-ball Don't fucking I would even say that when Archie Manning talks about his children. I tune out Yeah, quit bragging on your kids. Yeah, and then

Don't care about your opinion on politics Just don't care when someone gives its shares your opinion on politics. Just don't care. When someone shares their opinion on politics, do not care. Yeah, but what if they can shape your opinion? I don't care. When someone shares their opinion on politics, I do not care. Sometimes it's interesting if it's a wild celebrity and they go in a direction that

you did not think that they were going to go. Yeah. Then I'm like, oh, okay. Okay. No, yeah, athletes, when they do it, it's like, and I'm like, oh, okay. Okay. No. Yeah athletes when they do it It's like yeah, I liked I like watching it hit bombs, right? Mm-hmm, right? I Don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be celebrities opinions on politics specifically Because I do not care yeah at all

athletes you do So I mean celebrities and athletes are the same thing you would you want me put athletes slash celebrities no so it's fine, okay? Okay We're gonna go with your concert videos mmm. Yeah, one really good one and everyone takes it out It's like is there anything quicker that you? Scroll upon on Instagram that it's like yeah someone putting their entire concert It's like oh tap tap tap tap tap Don't care about this. Yeah, yeah the upload like an hour and 20 minutes to YouTube from the shittiest angle with the worst audio

Mm-hmm good pick good pick Okay, so it's on us Hank. I like six a lot. I know you love six do it you love six Oh, and then you but you can do whatever you want first whether or not your drunk six funeral I think so I think five is good, too Yeah, your ball. Oh Who's making the picks? It is me if see All right, so I'm gonna go with Hanks pick Your workout pictures hmm, okay. Yeah, that's nice unless they're hot

If it's a hot chick, I'm just throwing that out there. That's not a bad toy. That's right. A hot chick working out is... I do care. What about a guy when they're like... But I'm saying a hot chick working out, I care. That's what I told Hank.

Yeah. That's also the highest percentage of workout photos you'll see is attractive women. Yeah, true. Mm-hmm. And then for the last one, we're gonna go soccer. No one cares about soccer. Soccer as a whole. Soc sport of soccer soccer, okay? I think it's gonna play well nicely on the graphic okay. I think a sport in the world, okay, hmm

Memes, and I just stumbled upon one that I thought was our I realized it has not been taken yet your golf round Oh, yeah, hey Hank vetoed that yeah No, Hank Hank made a good point which is that golfers do care about your girlfriend, but like this no one no No, I I care Hank does care But it to your it is it's if it's someone you know and it's a course you've played That I'm all like Specific though. Yeah, and like if someone has a great round. Don't care. Oh I'm smashing the heart every time.

Dialed. I think they care to the extent that if they've also played that course they can then be like, yeah well when I was on that course this is what I did. Yeah. But if you like see someone and they're like, oh what did you do today? Oh I golfed, I hit a birdie on 15 to get me out. I'm like don't care slotted. Yeah All right Zack what do we do? Cuz I think we can't pick the thing we wanted to pick You don't think we can pick 21 it was a stronger pick than what they picked. But should we say it? I just think these those two things are vastly different. Why do one's an organization and one is okay. We were gonna pick the MLS

Specifically, but I don't know if that gets vetoed As we do we thought a lot of it is soft, but a lot of people care about soccer It is no one cares about the biggest sport in the world. No, not even the MLS care not even the players No one really cares about soccer though. Okay. Yeah, I mean I I think people do care about soccer I think no one cares about the MLS. No one cares about soccer. I mean, there think people do care about soccer. I think no one cares about the MOS. No one cares about soccer. I mean, there's definitely a lot of people that care about soccer. No one that matters cares about soccer.

We'll do something different. What about 13? What are you feeling about 13? That's kinda in the mood these days. Getting up on the time. Can't hear you, Zach. I like 13. Do you think, one quick glance at our list,

do you think there's anything stronger? I think 17. Seven,. Yeah. Oh nine so strong. What nine Zach. Stop it. It's not right guys. 23. Oh yeah. Let's do 17. Let's rip 17. No wait wait. Hold on. You're right. 13 is good. No I like 17. Let's go. Let's stay strong. Don't break. Strong. Don't break. You're a strong. Don't break. 13 strong. Don't break NBA All-Star game. Do not care. Do not care at all. Fun to complain about. Yeah, but it's just, it's the do not care at all. Yeah. No one cares. It's good. Good. Um, 13 was, uh, your marathon training. I, I think the pro bowl is a stronger pick than marathon training is probably I don't even watch

Yeah, but exactly what I mean the NBA All-Star game gets talked about it. I don't care I forgot but the fact that people talk about it means that yeah people care more about that than yeah I'm happy you didn't pick marathon training. That's probably a better version of your workout pictures. Yeah Probably. All right, so we fucked up Zach Fuck that up. No, we say air on training is it all marathon training is a good one great one great They're just saying that to say it don't let them get to you. No, I'm not Way better than not even showing Do no one cares about soccer

I think I'm a great and LS is a way now name one soccer I'll give you a Ronaldo. I'll see and I'll give you this. It's a better pick But Palmer soccer looks way better. Wait a minute. What did you just say? We've called Palmer hold on you just said Lionel Messi though Messi also saw her play. Yeah also plays for the MLS shit Either argument your argument was about us is better messy vacations at the MOS his legacy was That's true. That's true way to fight for yourself picks on other grown men in the other side, but I that was bad argument Zach had your feelings Like he doesn't care about other people's feelings

memes had a couple bangers that are just I had your day Oh Yeah, Zach also had one That are just I had your day. Oh, yeah, yeah Zach also had one Zach had movies He doesn't care about movies, okay Just something similar. He was like the movie that you saw but I was like that's actually one thing I do care about. Kind of care about. Because if you saw a good movie and I respect your opinion, I will want to watch that movie. Or if I was going to go see it and it was bad. I want to know about it.

I won't go see it. Would the Dallas Cowboys have played on the graphic? I mean the numbers say that people care about it. That's it. That was my beat up. No, numbers are irrelevant in this discussion. Good point. Some big picture ones, I had the national debt.

Yeah, I had the deficit. Yeah Yeah, don't care global warming don't care. Mm-hmm expensive wines don't care SNL just as an entity people always complain about it. I don't care. Yeah, they complain they complain about like who's hosting Or it's too liberal or it's too this or that. It's not funny anymore. I'm like, I don't care I don't really care on the't really care. I have professional boxing on the list. Oh I care. Professional boxing? One fight a year. I will care about one fight a year, but I don't really care. Did a couple tough ones that I wanted to throw on there because I personally don't care

but I think a lot of people do care about it is celebrity couples and the royal family. Yeah, don't care. Yeah, but that is someone that like a lot of people care about. Coney 2012. How do we miss your diet? That would have been a strong pick. People telling you about your diet. Don't care. No, I care. Okay. No, Max, you don't care. No, I don't. You're in charge of nutrition and you've done jack shit. How much sleep you got? Yeah. People being like, oh, I didn't get enough sleep or I got so much sleep the one time you got really drunk in college Yeah, I had your your use sports accomplishments

Like you're like not your kids like you saying like oh, I hit a home run in Little League Yeah, all right, all right. Oh Shane Victorino. We're college athletes. You guys are just making fun of me Put your Spotify wrapped. I feel like I care about that. Yeah. Do you? Yeah, because it shows our fans, the AWLs. Wow.

I meant for music, but yeah, I guess. Hank just made Spotify. We had Macklemore. Yeah. I agree with that. I had What You're Doing at Work, Don't Care. Yeah. Your Business Idea. Unless it's really good. Unless you're on cocaine at work don't care. Yeah, your business idea

Unless it's really good unless you're on cocaine Script yeah mid-range game. That was a good. That was a good one. Pft mid-range range game. Yeah pictures are your food Yep, okay. Sometimes I care sometimes. I'm like wow that looks really good where where was that? But that's see that's where it's like you're with that for people that play golf is just you for Food yeah, everyone eats food. No, but no one name. No, I'm gonna doesn't eat food. Most people are like That looks on maybe you name any people who don't call most people don't care about other people's food You're like, oh most people eat all people eat. Yeah, not all people All people eat fact I got one that uh, actually when we decided to do this topic, it was I think the first thing that popped in my head,

and it doesn't probably work, but it works for me personally. I don't care about crosswalks. Okay. At all. You're a big J guy? I just don't care. Like they tell me where I gotta walk, I'm gonna walk where I wanna walk.

I don't care. Especially like New York City. I don't think I ever walked in a crosswalk. No, yeah, I'm a J guy. You're just fucking going right across the street. Just don't care Especially like New York City. I don't ever walked across. No. Yeah, I'm a just fucking going right across the street. Just don't care That's a soft. They're softly telling me where to walk and I'm saying no, I'm not gonna do that. Don't care. We had Katy Perry Yeah, I still care about her the fish that you caught cannons Fish that you caught. Yeah You caught a good one. I've been tough. Well Hank is wearing a fish hat. Yeah

Don't care about washing jeans. Nope. That's good one. Yeah spam callers or like the people who like all physical mail Physical mail do not care. That's a great answer. I've done that. That's a great answer mail your allergies Don't care. I don't care the Jeffrey Epstein list. Who's Jeffrey Epps who yeah Ah would people are still on that no one talks people still care about that There is moved on. Yeah, come on your pregnant pregnancy post on Facebook Also your engagement post I like those are two nice things like no one who's knocked up Tell it show me when there's a baby bill. I want to see an actual baby. Okay, that's fair billboards. Yeah. Yeah, you said billboards billboards is good

commercials on gas pumps Mm-hmm. Oh, yes, don't care commercials and cabs Commercials and cabs. Yep, the people who stand outside of so stores that try to sell you something. Yeah. There's a ton in Chicago. Yeah. Kickers. I must say that's very much a lot. You care a lot about them. You care a lot about them. Into your offensive lineman. Yeah. Hank said your new haircut. Yeah. I'd say that's fair. Don't I was just trying to think I was getting getting the mindset like when I go on Instagram and people post

X like when am I like this is the dumbest thing. Oh your vacation. Yeah, don't care. No Don't care about the weather on your vacation specifically when people come back and they're like all the weather was incredible. Don't care. Mm-hmm your commute Do not care someone shares their commute like oh, it's terrible getting in today. It's like, all right, cool. I hope there's so many AWLs who are listening to this and they just go and delete their entire Instagram story because they're like, fuck, nobody cares about what I just posted. It's a golf round.

There's a lot of it. NBA All-Star game recap. There's a lot of stuff that you do care about. Yeah. Everybody posts, but just we all don't like when other people do it correct. Yeah, but yeah, I mean like I said It's cool to care. This is an indictment on caring. This is just stuff that I think we all can agree Don't really care. Yeah, like I well. Yeah, I still post all these things. I just don't know what other people do yeah But I think it's also good to have self-awareness

Yeah, like when I when I do say like oh like oh my son had a double in t-ball I'm like this is I wish I could stop this story right now and not say it like this is stupid I shouldn't be sharing this Or like when you talk about your golf round. Yeah, the national more you you asked me I do I do not bring it up unprompted. Well, we talk about a recap. We talked about our days on this podcast Yeah, so our children. It's tough to avoid. And I have 18. Your children is 18. Yeah. 18. Memes doesn't care about your day. You just don't. I like that memes. That's brutal honesty. Memes only cares about hate.

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Chill harder with Chevy Silverado. Now here is the flying Hawaiian Shane Victorino. Okay we now welcome on a very very special guest. Two-time World Series Champion, the flying Hawaiian, Shane Victorino. I'll start with a really stupid question. How much better does two-time World Series Champion sound than one time? That's got to be like, because you got the second at the end of your career, that's nice that people always have to introduce you as two-time World Series champion. It's nice to get one, but you're right.

To get two, it's absolutely amazing. I mean, to hear it, I always told people growing up just to tell yourself that to be a one-time world champion was good enough, but to be two, it's pretty fun. Do you ever bust out the rings? Never. Why? Because I honestly tell you, if I got to wear my my ring then I didn't do enough on a baseball field

What do you mean? Meaning like you are the ring? Yeah I mean I got myself like if I have to and not in negative way and I always tell people it's it's it's more of a I call it the fact that if You understand that I was a world's champion I was a big part of you know those championships that hopefully I won't have to wear my ring to show my, you know, kind of a thing. More than that. But you're right, as far as where everywhere I go and everybody hears that and everybody wants to see them, everybody wants to touch them, I'm like, the question is the year of

where I'm like, honestly, I don't really like to. And again, I don't want to attract the attention. I mean, honestly, think about me walking in the room, anywhere I go with a big old fat ringer, but it's going to be like, oh, yeah, you know, I don't know. If you never won one, then you say I would wear that all the time. Yeah. And then you, I guess I'm being a little, you know, this is a difference between like athletes and regular guys because I dream of like any championship ring. I would wear it all the time. Yeah. I get it. Championship ring for our lacrosse team that we own. We wear that all the

time. Yeah. She's lost. Do you know where your time. We actually lost them. Yeah, we lost them. Yeah, we lost them. Do you know where your rings are? I do know. Okay, all right, good. Yes, they're definitely tucked away nicely. Because maybe you should say you don't know. That would even be more of a flex. That would be more of a, yeah, right.

I actually don't know where they are. I don't know where they are. I don't know where they are. I don't know where they are. I don't know where they are. I can't find them. I got so many trophies. Yeah, it's sad to see when you do

hear people selling them, like you said. I know, I know. You said before we started taping, you were very lucky. You got to play in two great sports towns. So what is the better sports town? Philly or Anaheim? You tell me.

Philly or Boston? I tell people it's two unbelievable fan bases that have a love and a passion for their sports. And well I separate the two and how I separate the two is, and then there are two different championships. One, like you said, was early in my career. I was a young kid, later on I was at the back end. But what separates the two for me was, there's not many championships in the city of Philadelphia

and people don't realize that and people don't talk about that all the time. People think that Philadelphia, there's a plethora ofrophies or championships in that city So I take that a little bit more on that side because there's not many like the game of baseball You know, we lost over 10,000 games. I remember I was a part of it and still there and you're looking to go Ten thousand games we've been around forever. There was one championship Yeah, and then we became the second so like those kind of things that what makes I think Philadelphia's a little bit more

I mean you think about it Tom Brady won what? Seven and then you got the Celtics have won and then you know they won in four, seven, we won in 13, 18. I mean that's a lot of championships in just the last 20 years in the city so I always tell people that's what makes Philadelphia to me a little bit more special but I mean as far as going back to the fan bases man to win in those kind of cities. I think with Philly it's that they let you know when they win one. So yeah, they've got a handful of ranks, right? But they let you know for years and years like, hey, you remember that team?

It becomes more of a focus, more, more. Well, because you don't have many. That's why I'm saying it's hard to go and say in Boston, well, all right, oh shit, Brady's got seven, you know, the Celtics got how many? So that's what I think that's again, going back to that touching that point is that Is that that's what is is is where I feel like they come egotistic about it because they don't have many if you do Have a lot you act a little differently and not saying you call it take it for granted But if you know that in every major sport you got a chance to win a championship in the city of Boston It's pretty different, you know

Is it have you gone back to both cities and and can you feel the difference in that Philly, there's Shane Victorino? I spent eight years there, and I spent two and a half in Boston. So that's another thing I tell people. So in regards to that, yes. And then Boston was what made Boston special, was the fact that the bombings and the magnitude of what had happened at the beginning of the year

and how we were able to transcend the city and bring the joy and the Pride that was what was cool about you know I get to touch on it that second championship was that big factor So yeah, I mean, but as I said both great unbelievable fan base This is our fucking city Yeah That was a good one That was poppy yes

Can you answer a question because I've always wondered this about David Ortiz whenever he'd hit a triple He'd be like once every two years He'd get really excited for some reason Do you know why he would get so excited by hitting a triple? Because it was always about his speed, bro. You know, I mean, he wasn't very fast. So to be able to go from first to third, it's a big moment.

A lot of times if he's hitting it that far, it's usually in the seat. So he doesn't, you know, but I mean. There's something else he got excited about. Oh, maybe I didn't know that one. Maybe a little secret deal at home. Yeah. You get a triple, you get a triple.

Oh, wow. I didn't know that. Well, damn, man. Good for him. Wait, speaking of speed, you ran a 4-3 in high school? I did. I was pretty fast. That's wide receiver speed.

That's insane. But I also was 5'9 and 150 pounds. Yeah, but that's insane speed. No, I had. I mean, but again, at the end of the day, that was my game in the big leagues. You know, I tell people, I wasn't a baseball player. Like, I had God-given speed through all the sports that at the end of the day, that was my game in the big leagues. You know, I tell people I was a baseball player, like I had God given speed to all the sports that I played through going up.

And that was my one too. And then, and even in baseball, that became the, you know, the tool that carried me through the sport. But yeah, yeah. I mean, could I have, I mean, I loved, I thought I was going to be the next, you know, I love soccer. I don't know if you guys knew that, but soccer was my favorite sport. I thought I was going to be the next Pele.

And you know, being as fast as I I was it was so much fun playing soccer Just running by everyone you want to go there I want to push it five feet or and I'm gonna run by you and I was cool But so so rank your your sports what you were best at obviously baseball soccer was my best Okay, so I was your best Soccer number one and like I said, I wanted to be Pele. I grew up wanting to be like Pele I wanted to be set out but in 99, you know, there was really nothing and my dad was like well You can go overseas. I was like, I don't want to go overseas

You know football my dad was like your 5'9. So that was became my second sport because I wanted I finally got to play it Put on the helmets the flex. You can't catch me It's like how to you know, cat him cat a mouse on a football field So I love football and then baseball was like the fourth because it was the hardest. So it was three. Three was track. Wait, was baseball your worst sport? Well, it wasn't the worst, it was the hardest.

So I didn't like it. But again, having a father that sat me down, my senior year and goes, okay son, you're small. Soccer's not an option. You don't want to run for a living. Well, if you get drafted, maybe baseball becomes, maybe it's an opportunity there. And that's how we played out.

Honestly, baseball's hard. I mean, we were touching upon it earlier, you know, before we got them on. It's like baseball's the hardest thing to do in the world. I mean, I don't care. Golf's hard. Listen, you can play golf. An 80-year-old man can play golf. A 70-year-old kick him.

But if I tell, you know, hey, let's go down to the park and let me throw a 70-mile-an-hour, 80-mile-an-hour fastball at you, hell, we told the first one at your head, that's part of the game. So, and you'll never want to step back in. So that's the hardest. So that's why I didn't play it growing up. I mean, I played it. But it wasn't like, yeah, I want to go play baseball every day.

That's crazy. Do you remember your worst slump in the big leagues and what you did to get out of it? Because you're right. The baseball, and we've talked to a lot of baseball players, the fact that you could fail for like two weeks at a sport and Still be a good, you know, I mean, it's maybe happy body when you come Yeah, it's still be a really good and then you hit three hits on the you know, after 14 days. You're like I'm back

I'm good. I think what some of my toughest slumps was a lot of it was mental to just you said it's such a grind So not only are you physically not able to achieve some of the goals, but you're just mentally grinding to it So, I mean I remember a lot of our coaches, which having great of them, you know, great coaches was a lot of them would sit me for a day and just tell me like, you're not playing tonight. Don't even do nothing. Go sit inside. You know, I might need you in the eighth or night if the game comes up. And then the next day you come out and you just it's almost like a re-register. It wasn't like this big, you know, I mean, baseball's hard, as I said.

When you go through those things, it's such a I tell people the mental side of what makes baseball hard is that, like you said, you know, I mean, baseball's hard. As I said, when you go through those things, it's such a, I tell people the mental side of what makes baseball hard is that, like you said, you go, I can go three weeks without being successful at all. You'd be doing that, you know, would you be happy with that? I'd have no chance. You'd do an radio station if you're- Right, if you did a bad show for two weeks, you're off, you're fired.

So that's what, like you said, what's crazy about baseball. Yeah, so. Yeah, so back off, you're off, you're fired. So that's what, like you said, what's crazy about baseball. Yeah. Yeah. So back to your high school days, you got an offer to play for June Jones at Hawaii? I did. To kick? I did, to kick.

Did you ever consider that? I did. Well, that was an option. I mean, that was the second option. And the reason that was actually the heavily weighed option was I had a mom who looked at me and said, you're never going to be a big leaguer. That's not a reality.

You go to college, get a diploma or get an education, and going on into life, that's your chance. Right. So that was the biggest challenge. And at the end of it, it was literally on the table. And it was the day I got drafted. I had a partial scholarship, nothing more than that. It's crazy when people ask me like,

oh, you probably saw it after I go. I said, I had a partial scholarship to go to the University of Hawaii to play baseball. The day I get drafted, I get offered by June Jones a full ride because the kicker scholarship came off and I was a soccer player. So this is how it all transitioned to. I became and he offered me that and I took it

and I was totally gone Oh, yeah till I realized that I didn't want to go to school But also aside there and this is gonna sound obviously like a tourist but the way you said Hawaii was awesome Oh, thank you. Yeah, I mean that's how I mean how cool is I've been to Hawaii once it's it's magical Like growing up there. What was it like growing up there? You grow up in paradise. You didn't know any better Yeah, it's like I tell people anywhere, you know, you're from I mean you there's always something special about your place Yes, Hawaii's different. It's just magic place that everybody but when I was growing up, I just It was my backyard. It was you start surfing. I never did. What? Oh, you're gonna find out.

I knew that was gonna caught you. Oh no. Yes. So I think early on in my life, I boogie boarded, I dove, I did all the fishing, I did all the oceans, but I just never got into surfing. And then I think there was a couple of times though,

like my friends and I talk now, that when I was boogie boarding as a young kid, I really wasn't good at it. And I got waffled and I didn't have a love for the ocean. And I was always terrified and I Never really felt and then the second part is honestly I was playing a lot of my sports on land and that my mom and dad would always say like you can't You got soccer practice. You got baseball where my buddies would be like peace out surface up

I'm gone, you know and they would go and I always had that, you know So I never really fell in love with it. I always respected those guys Did you have you ever thought about it as an adult? Like trying it? Trying it? No, I'm way past that in life. I would be a good video series. You know what's funny?

I've had some of the greatest conversation with those guys and they all asked me, how do you stand there in a batter's box and try to hit a baseball? I go, how do you stand there and run down a hundred foot wave behind you and you think you're so cool? And I was like, there's a different wavelength here. So my point is, it's crazy how people look at baseball. But I look at surfing cool and I was like, we're, there's a different wavelength here. So my point is just crazy how people look at baseball, but I look at surfing as that kind of like,

it's this, I look at them as legendary because I always thought it was hard. I mean, to go out there, you know, as I said, growing up, fighting currents all your life, swimming in the ocean with your friends, it's not a normal playground, you know? But I went, when I went to Hawaii, I took, I went surfing once and I thought I was like nailing it and then I looked back

And the instructor was pushing my board and I was like well this Yeah, you feel in a gray spot I mean I can picture myself getting in a barrel riding that I can picture it, but I don't think it ever Yeah, I gotta overcome the biggest fear of the ocean Yeah, yeah, I gotta overcome the biggest fear of the ocean. Like the power of the ocean. It's not even just the, you know, what's in the water, it's just the respect and the, you know, what I had for what I call, you know, experiences probably as a youth

in mother nature and going, this is not for me. Yeah. Did you travel as a kid or were you mostly in Hawaii? Mostly stayed there, yeah. I didn't leave much. When was the first time you saw snow? Well, lucky enough as a kid, our highest mountaintop, it snowed So I got to go out there as a kid and go visit and see what we called snow

It was like you're looking out now at the top of Tahoe and you see that white cap up there That's what I considered my snow. So as a kid there was a few times It snowed at our Tice Peak, but if you want to talk about a real like cold a cold equatable was probably My years in the Meyer Leagues, I think I ended up in I was in Scranton, Wilkes-Barre And I remember one of the first times we were in Buffalo, New York, and it was you know April it was Got to been 20 degrees the wind was blowing that day And I remember sitting next to the heater in the dugout of one of my teams go, what's going on with you?

I go, bro, I've never been this cold in my life. So that was kind of my first run of really experiencing the snow. That would make you homesick real fast. Real fast. I actually realized like, why am I playing baseball? Yeah. Why do people look at it?

It was so cold. You're right. Yeah. Who's your favorite teammate from all your stops in major leagueball and why? I would have to say Jimmy Rollins. OK. He was like a big brother to me.

He took me in as a rookie. He was a guy that I always wanted to idolize when I was playing. We always had our, you said, your little internal lacrosse teams and all that stuff, or your team that you have. Or we always had internal bests to make ourselves better. You said your little internal lacrosse teams and all that stuff or your your team that you have or your we had a We always had internal best to make ourselves better So when I look back on my career having a guy that pushed me like that, you know true all those years

I mean he was the one teammate that I would say would you know, I mean he was in my wedding Yeah tells you yeah Awesome, bro. He's great. Yeah fun to watch play. Yeah, we should also we should give you credit I think you're the only player to ever win two World Series for two different teams and hit a home run for the Savannah Bananas. I didn't hit a home run. You played for the Bananas? I did.

But I hit a double in the gap. I thought it was a home run. It wasn't. It was a double in the gap. It looked like it. It looked good. But it was a double in the gap and it ended up scoring the winning run in that inning. But.

So how'd they get you to go out there and play? I don't know. I just thought, you know what's funny honest to truth is my son wanted to get tickets to watch the Savannah bananas in Las Vegas and I tried through every Avenue I could possibly and I got denied yeah and I was like what is this yeah what is this and lo and behold I said, you know what I? Think was Jake Peavey or Johnny go somebody said dude go play with them. They would love to and I was like I'll text the guy, but I don't know if I want to play so moral of the story is that's how I got

Tell myself that I had to go play for him so my kids could go watch a Savannah Banana games in Las Vegas. Is it so being around them, is it true? I've heard that the bananas are just swimming in pussy. Is that true? Put it this way. My wife was more excited at the end of the game to watch all of them jump in the pool in Las Vegas versus your right. So yes, so I say, well, what then? I gotta go back to being 26 with abs, babe.

Like, you know, like, but it was fun. And then that, and then it is, it is crazy. The phenomenon of the family aspect, the women that love it, not just the, you know, the kids, I mean, it's these moms that are out there. They're so excited to be there. It's awesome, it is the craziest thing. I think it's in their contract.

They're like, we'll pay you this and then also pussy. I also want to know what, whatever they're doing, they're doing it right. They're like, we'll pay you this and then also a pussy. I also want to know what. Whatever they're doing, they're doing it right. They're nailing it. They're having fun. But unfortunately, the older guys can't have that luxury. Yeah. We enjoyed that.

It doesn't come in my contract. You mentioned your abs. What was the off season you sent a picture of your abs to your manager every day? Is that true? No way. I would never do that. Yeah, you did.

No. Not once did you send it? I might have said one to John Farrow I think or something. Okay, so that that's literally true They were talking about it. I said, you know, I'm gonna flex on his ass But I think it was was it sick to have abs. I never really had him. That was the point I think it was more like it's getting better, but I never had All right, so you had also had two postseason Grand Slams.

How often do you watch those back? I think my brother watches them way more than me. So when he's watching it, I end up watching it. But yeah, I mean, they're great moments. I think that- I would watch it every day if I were you. I would. No, I get it.

I definitely watch it when I need that, you know, that reminder of how lucky I was and how blessed I was. Yeah. And when I say it that way, it's like, you know, when there's times where you're like, man, well, it's, you know, it's it's it's not there anymore. It's not there. You go like, bro, look at how lucky you are. Yeah. End of the day, like, stop. You know, it's not that bad or whatever it is.

You're like, look at how lucky you are. You know, and like I said, always the thing about, you know, when I think about it at the end of the day, how many baseball players I ever walked on this earth. I'm you know, I got to about it at the end of the day, how many baseball players have ever walked on this earth? I'm, you know, I got to play 10 years in the big leagues. That's even a smaller percentage. So it's like, man, how lucky, you know? So that moment, both those moments,

is that the highest high coming back to the dugout? Like being like, oh, I mean, a grand slam in the post season, that just has to be off the charts. Like you can't replicate that feeling. No, I mean, from an individual standpoint, yes. Yes. Yeah from that moment where it's like, yes, the whole world's on you, correct But winning two World Series. Yeah, of course. I was running in I mean like but yes from an individual standpoint Yeah, there's nothing like you're floating in. Yeah. I tell people all the time It's like I mean like they're like how loud is it? I was like truthfully man

It's actually it's almost like quiet in your in your mind you know and you're just like I It's almost like yeah, you you tell yourself as it happens like I mean when I hit that grand slam You know and I jumped around the bases in Boston and I pounded my chest. It's like I Literally went back to like my childhood days. Yeah, and you know, that's every childhood dream I get in my backyard. I go like, bro, this shit is real. I'm jogging around this basis, bro. Like this is and so like that's what makes those moments that you said cool.

Yeah, you're right. I mean, there's there's no other greater feeling other than having your child. Yeah, be born and be healthy and you know, but beyond that. Yeah, being a Savannah banana and getting all the poor or whatever you want. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it does seem pretty incredible. So you talked about the pile a second ago, the pile at the end of the World Series. Were you at the bottom of the pile? I was always at the end because I was an outfield. Yeah, I got to I got and in fact, one of the you know, one of I call one of the most iconic, you know, I think Philly's pictures, the pile that we have and I was lucky enough, I'm kind

of airborne and I'm landing on it. Yeah. So the guys at the bottom of the pile, they're getting it. I feel like it's a great idea when you start the ball No, and then after like two side don't want to be under I'm claustrophobic side panic like heck. I guarantee Yeah, so I'm glad I was always the you know, the outfielder taking my time on the way in that Philly's World Series You want what was it? Was it three days of rain? It was a day and a half day and a half How much did that screw up like cuz you guys gotta just be like, get us out there. Like we're ready to go.

It was definitely something different to actually like stop a game mid game. Right. Especially at that moment. Like, you know, but I mean, ultimately there's no way we could have won. Yeah. You know, the way, and I would have felt bad

winning a World Series. Yeah, right. It rained out four and a half or five and a half, you know, five in a game. Right. Which was legit at the time, you know, but I it was definitely you wanted it so badly Right as you felt it at your fingertips, you know But it was almost to the point where it's like, okay relax like let it happen

Let it all because again just as fast as momentum shifts, you know shit like that can shift it back in every garden We'll go back to opposite direction, right? But I mean being at home helped, helped, being in city of Philadelphia, knowing that literally, I remember actually that when you talk about that moment, I remember walking out on what I call game five and a half, and second we stepped out of dugout, it was 42,000 electric fans in Philadelphia.

So it was like, oh, it's back in you. The energy was right back in you. Right, right. What was it like going back to Hawaii after winning a World Series? Was it different? Yeah. I mean, there's not many of us that have the opportunity to do that. So yeah, it was definitely a big moment. I think for me, I think it was cool because

it brought what I call a different sport to the forefront. Not saying that baseball was massive back home, especially at the U level, but there was never really one that someone that like said it and brought it. I mean, there was successful big leagues, but not that World Series, and especially in today's era, there's so much more and there's so much

where kids can learn from someone like, something like that. Where back in the day, if they did win it, it was where it really wasn't talked about. There's not much to look at. But to know that I can go back home and try what I call transcend where the game and the kids think and how they think of the game. I mean, the Eva Loy, the kid that just won the Golden Spikes, you know, best college

player here, you go from my little hometown. If you had told me that 50 years ago or however many years ago that there would be the best college baseball player that grew up in my little hometown in the little island of Maui, I would have told you, kick rocks, no chance. Yeah, no. They had two Hawaiian guys on the team, right? Yeah. Arkansas? Yeah.

It was the two brothers, their brothers, Coheo and Dehevo. Yeah. That's where I heard them sing this. And I know them since they were this big, but it's like when you think about that kind of stuff, when you think about, you know, like, here it is. This is that moment. Like, this kid's now a reality because someone like me showed them that they can do it. Yeah. Do you feel like it's kind of, not mean, but the Flyin' Hawaiians is like one of the best nicknames

ever and no one else can have it now. Like, you took that. Like, we could have a Hawaiian baseball player who's- Someone could, but yeah. No, you can't. That's such a great nickname. When did you first get that nickname? So it was actually a New York Mets game in New York.

I made a diving catch in left center and the announcer said it, I don't know if it was Ron Darling or Keele. One of them said it, they're brought in the Mets broadcaster and then it stuck. It was just like that. Yeah. And then it became the nickname. Yeah. How long does it take for you to hear that nickname after the game? Because they're doing the TV broadcast, right?

I forget who brought it up I don't know and I think so I think they showed the replay of the you know They kept showing it because it was it was a great diving catch and then the more and more people show the replay The part of the broadcast and you know, I guess he I think he said it or something like that Like the flying Hawaiian makes his unbelievable catch and then it was like yeah, there it is Yeah I read an article that you your parents had to take you

to the emergency room something like 20 times before you were eight. Is that a fair estimate? It was a fair estimate. It was very close. It was 10 times before the age of five. Oh my gosh. That's a lot.

What were you doing? Just the reckless abandonment. I was just, I fell off a bike. You know, tire spoke in my ear at the end of the, you know, end of the cul-de-sac, hit the curb going full speed, you know, tire spoke in the ear, hanging out with my brother, dump on the bunk.

Oh, it's down there. I jump off the top, hit the screw on the side of the bed. I mean, got hit by a moving car, fell out of the moving car. That's, that's a little bit older in life. Those are two that are not. You get hit by a moving car, got hit by a moving car. Are we like technically moving?

No, this one was technically making. So the fell in all of the cars with my auntie and uncle, my auntie Valerie and old car, you know, sat on the door side back then. You could, you know, four deep across the front, three in the back, little island, cruising down the road in hometown, the door falls open, little Shane's on the side of where the door falls open and he goes rolling out. I mean, he's going, you know, making a left turn,

not going 50 miles an hour, but you know, he's going 10 miles, you know, whatever. So that was, well, I fell out of the car. Getting hit by the car was, I was at my brother's, with my brother, who was my, again, one of my idols. He was four and a half years older than me so they're all with their friends were big in the bike BMX they all go to the friend's house I go and hang out with their brothers they're all watching the movie they're doing their

thing I go out front take the bike to my grandma's house basically steal the bike from the brothers I go down I'm coming I'm trying to get back to where they are two-lane road cars parked on each side. A little 12 year old pops his head out, no car. Old lady's coming by, 30 miles an hour, hits me. She said, I go flying 20 yards. I get back up, but again, I'm 12 years old, so everything's still...

She said, I literally was trying to run back to the bike and grab it because I was so scared. Because I was going to get my ass beat by my brother, my dad, my parents, my grandpa, and everybody else. And not only that, his friends, because now this bike's mangled, I'm more in panic mode. I think I was just in shock. So of course, this lady grabs me.

She's like, you can't go nowhere. I just hit you on the car. You know, I just hit you on my car. Like, you got to stay here. Of course, now adrenaline comes down. Now it's like the pain starts kicking in and the crying starts happening. But I'm alive, first and foremost. But the lady, remember sure hearing her tell my parents cuz I was what 12 13

So I still remember hearing it. She was oh my god. I hit your son You know, I wasn't going fast, but I was going 30. I mean it was you know going up dirty Yeah, and he came out of nowhere, you know, he was in between the cars He came out of nowhere and I hit him and he flew 20 yards in the air He rolled he ran back to the bike She was trying to explain to my parents and I was like, and then like I said, it was just, you know, God bless, I guess at the end of it. Does she know that she hit you? Like not back then she did. Now does she know? I don't know. She was an older, she long passed before I became something. Yeah. Okay. When you

look back on that kind of stuff, but yes, how the hell was I lucky, you know, right survive all but you're you're you just described to like kind of Traumatic like bad moments like your worst moments and they're significantly cooler and more badass than anything I've ever done I don't why I don't wish I got hit by a car But like to be like I wish either when I look actually threw out you got hit by a car and fell out of a car Oh cuz I'm here now, you know, and I look back on the story. I wouldn't be a little different if it traumatized me in the end. Yeah, so you have ADHD.

When were you diagnosed with it? Because back then, it wasn't something that was prevalent. It was actually, no. And then, so the other side to that story is at that age, I was basically, you can tell, aggro and just wild. I had to leave a preschool at some point, you know, because of my ADHD and it was fine. I mean, but these are all these moments

when I look back on life. It's like what I also realized that that's just part of it and I was born with it. It wasn't like I went to the streets and oh, let me go do this and then it happens in my life. So yes, at a young age, it was always like, and I was always in trouble because I was always hyper active

and I was all over the place. But then, you know, as I learned through life, there was positives to a lot of that, that good energy, high energy stuff. But as a kid, people don't know how to control it. But as I said, it's- It sounds like they kept you really busy after that. Like you played every sport.

Every sport, that was it. They'd get me out of the house. And you're an Eagle Scout, right? I'm an Eagle Scout, yeah. So that's like a lot of time that you're just spent doing structured activities, right? And that was what was important for me, was to have that in my life.

Yeah. At what age do you think Shane Victorino could beat us up? I'm thinking it's like seven. Nah. I'm not a fighter, bro. No, but hearing how crazy you were, like, tough kid. I was crazy, and I was tough, but to a degree of what I needed to be.

Yeah. You know what I mean? And then I was also reckless around my friends. I wanted to be the guy to show my friends, like, bro, don't be fearless. There might be not the right outcome, but go do it. Except the ocean. The ocean's got your number.

Well, no. That's a different one. You're kind of a wimp for that. I'm a very much for wimp for that. I'm a very much for wimp. I'm actually way tougher than you. I'll be the first to say that. When it comes to water. Shane Padrino ever tries to fight you, just run into the ocean.

It's like bees. Stay close to the shore. I got you. Go far out. I'll leave you alone. Oh, man. All right, so playing baseball, the grind of baseball, this might be a dumb question.

But you're in the outfield. Were there moments where you like, almost like when you're driving on the highway and you forget that you've been driving, were there moments where you're like, oh shit, I haven't been paying attention for a while here? I'll tell you one of the greatest moments, my wife, we were in Seattle.

And then she told me that night after the game, because Seattle, there's seagulls. Yeah. And so, you know, I'm standing out in the middle of grass, all of a sudden you see shadows. What's going to, what's, what are you going to do? You're going to look up, right? If you're in the middle of the grass, all of a sudden you see shadows. What's gonna, what are you gonna do? You're gonna look up, right? If you're in the middle of a grass patch

and all of a sudden there's a bunch of shadows over your head. So literally, she said, she goes, honey, I'm watching them pitch and you're literally in center field looking at the seagulls above your head. And I was like, well, babe, what am I supposed to do? I mean, like, if you're out in the middle of a grass patch

and all of a sudden you see shadows over your head, you're gonna look up. So yes, there are moments where there's things and objects that came into the play where, yes, I did find myself, I also did get thrown out from center field. So that's also one of the greatest things that I've ever done. And I'm like, I got thrown out from center field

in my greatest moments. Ed Rappawanna was at home, he called Ryan Howard on a strike, and then I went out to center field and I watched from center field and he didn't call a strike on their guy and I threw my hands up in there and I was squaring at him and he saw me. And he threw you out for arguing balls and strikes. But unfortunately I felt bad for him because it cost him the playoffs. I mean but that's you might be the only guy to ever do that. There's not many of us that got thrown off from centerfield. Yeah so going back to one of my greater do that. There's not many of us that got thrown off from center field, for sure.

So going back to one of my greater baseball moments. That's pretty awesome. That's good. What about switch hitting? When did you decide that you were gonna hit from both sides? 22 years old. That feels like that's pretty late. Yeah, I feel like when you have a coach telling you

you're either gonna home and go work in Hawaii or you wanna become a switch hitter and you might become a big leaguer, then you tell me what you're gonna do. So how much work did that take? A lot. I it was what I told me was just again. It was It was not easy Doing and hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do like I said But to try to do it at 22 years old against the best in the world at a high level. I

Was willing to try it I was not trying to go home for the rest of my life and yeah Have no outcome. You know what I mean? So but again, I look back and saying having a coach that gave me that, you know foresight like hey, bro I think that if you do this and at that time I was in double-a I was 8th on the depth chart, you know big leaguers already there So like eight guys have to get hurt in the Meyer leagues that ain't gonna happen But he goes if you become a switch hitter and you're willing to try it. There's nobody on this list That ain't gonna happen. But he goes, if you become a switch hitter

and you're willing to try it, there's nobody on this list. Wow. And I can honestly say that at the end of my career, out of all nine of us, 10 of us that was in front of me, I would say I was able to have the most successful career. Did you have a, after you got called up, did you have like a welcome to the big leagues, like, oh fuck, this is different moment?

Oh yeah, every fucking day for that first year was really oh this is what I mean it's just different there there there there were bigger there were stronger they were just athletic they were the IQ of the game you know I mean it was I call it it became the chess mass versus the checker match like it's now a chess match right not a checker you know know, like you gotta have that extra move. And it was fun. But I mean, I said the size of the guys, you know, just the way the game was played,

it was just, it was a lot more fine too. And it was cool. But yeah, every, I still tell you, even till the day I was done in the big leagues, there was always me moments like, you know, playing with Mike Trout for the first time when he was healthy was like, you know, back in his day where he was MVP was like, bro, is this real? Yeah, are you can you really be this much? Yeah

So like yeah, there was always those all-me moments in baseball And I think that's what and maybe I'm just kind of downplaying it But it was cool to always and that's why I loved and I respected the game so much It was like, you know I played the way I do is cuz it was like man There was always those all-me moments as good as I thought I was or as great it's like man there's this dude yeah dude you know like there was always those pitch me moments yeah yeah we're about to flip side to that was there a

moment where you got called up to big leagues and you were like I belong here like I feel like I can do this I mean at a young age of 22 I thought I'd be long and then I got sent back to the Meyer leagues but then I realized there was so much more for me to learn so mentally yeah, but I Always never try to think that I was there Yeah, and I think that's what helped me play for so long too was to never think like that Yeah, and you got to think every year bro There's there's a whole plethora of dudes that are just coming after you every single year

I mean I got to play parts of 13 years, 11 total, you know, like. Yeah, I'm lucky, you know, like, man, because, yeah, every year someone's trying to take your shit. There's that next trunch of people, whether it be college, high school, you know. Yeah, they're coming. They want to get you. Do you have your gold card on you? I do. Not on me. No. Have you used it? Never. Really? Come on. For people who don't know that. No, I'm just kidding. You have. It is. I have me. No. Have you used it? Never. Really? For me, we don't know that. No, I'm just kidding. You have? It is. I have never used it, but you're right. Will

there be a moment I will? Yeah, hopefully not. It's the coolest thing ever. If you play, what is it, eight years? Eight years or more. Eight years or more in Major League Baseball, you get a gold card and that gives you two seats to any game. You just got to walk up and they'll give you two seats. Correct. They should give you a platinum card. You should get every MLB team and Savannah Bananas. Yeah. The only guy that has that. Yeah.

Savannah Bananas, I want to buy an ownership in that damn thing. I think they're an empire. Nah, just kidding. So you just walk up to the box office with the MLB gold card and you're just like, hey, it's me. You're supposed to be able to handle them and they're supposed to give you the two best available seats. That's awesome.

That's such a cool rule. I hope you've not done that. I guess it's like, this is just again, another flex. Going full circle, this is like cool. How have you not done that? I guess it's like this is just again another... You've got a weird flex, I don't know. Going full circle, this is like the you have World Series, we don't. I feel like I would do it every game just to be like... It's like a free Chipotle car. If you don't have it, you want it, right?

Yeah. I want to do your job. I want to sit there, I want to be as famous and talk on radio. Nah, I don't know if you want to do your job. I love it. I listen to you outside, give it to somebody. Yeah. Yeah. Who is, I got a couple last questions,

the nastiest pitcher you faced. Who? Every guy. But who was the net, like the filthiest, like, god damn it, this shit is just different. Steven Strasburg, when he first came to the big leagues, and he made his debut against us. And I remember telling myself, come on, bring this first came to the big leagues, and he made his debut against us, and I remember telling myself,

come on, bring this dude up to the big leagues, I can't wait. And I think he shrugged me out my first two with bats, one on a three-two changeup, and one on a three-two curve ball. And I remember walking back to the telly going, you throw a hundred, and you just threw me two off-speed pitches

in a three-two count. We got no chance, pal. This is not cool. So Steven Schalsberg, when he first came up, was, I mean, honestly, all the Hall of Famers, those kind of guys. But when I look at that all-me-more, and I was like, bro, this dude is not real.

And his first, you know, ever many years when he was healthy, it wasn't cool. Yeah, people forget about him when it comes to that upper echelon, because the way the end of his career went. And then he had, obviously, the setback in the middle of the career. Correct.

But then he came back from that, too. But at his peak, he was the best of the best. At his peak, that first five years, yeah, I mean, it was a joke. You're running 100 miles an hour with, you know, you can throw everything else for a strike. It wasn't fun. And L.E.'s fan base you hate the most?

Come on, man. It's the Mets. The Mets gotta be. Yeah, I mean, I just wanna hate them, but I just, I, I, I love, I hate love. I hate love because what I loved about them was the fact that I knew that there was gonna be fights with Philly fans that night.

Yeah. And then, and what I hate about them was the fact that they're obnoxious, man. Yeah. And they gave it to us when we came to town. Yeah. And that team's, you know, those years, man, those are some fun games, cause they were, theynoxious. Yeah. And they gave it to us when we came to town. Yeah. And that teams, you know, those years, man, those are some fun games because they were, they were good. Yeah. Those teams in New York are very good and we had some good old fun battles boy. Yeah. Um, all right. I have one

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before you make it to the Little League World Series. They'd go around and ask. Who was your favorite player? I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I I have the video pulled up. Oh, let's go. I have the video pulled up. That's awesome, man. Let's play it for them. Oh, man, that's what you work for all your life. It's kind of funny when you say that. You look forward to that, like your kids saying on TV,

my favorite player. He just broke Shane Greer. Literally just broke your sunglasses. He just broke Shane Greer's sunglasses. He stepped on his sunglasses. Maxis couldn't have gone worse. You stepped directly on his sunglasses, dude. Oh my God. It's such a crunch.

What did you just say? They're doing it to you on purpose. That's so cool. My name is Dr. Woody. I'm the first patient in your 11 year old family. Dude, that's so cool. What a cool moment. I love your profession. Dude. That's how it feels to be a pro. Thank you. What a cool moment. Yeah, what a great moment.

Isn't that awesome, Max? And now here you are stepping on his sunglasses. Meeting your hero. What a moment. Do you think that 12-year-old Max Saleni would have thought, like, one day I'll step on his sunglasses and embarrass myself? No, yeah. That was the only way that was going to go, for sure.

For sure, that was the only way that was going to go. So what's your question, Max? They talked about the Grand Slam against the Brewers already. I wanted to ask you, how does it feel to have the second best step out of that inning? And what were you guys thinking when Brett Myers pulled that nine pitch walk? We were happy because we knew that that kind of exhausted CC

a little bit. I mean, Brett Myers was one of those guys, man. You know what you were getting, but you didn't know what you were getting. You didn't know if you were getting the Brett Myers that was going to be straight or you didn't get the guy that was going to throw at the guy's head for no reason. So, I mean, him doing that at bat, I tell people all day long, that was a big reason because I think he gassed CC. I mean, and and he grind, and not only that, you kept getting 40,000 plus on their feet as his bass went on. Yeah, I mean, it just got louder and louder.

And I tell people any day, 45,000 in Philadelphia, look out, you wanna be on the good side. And I was lucky enough to be on the good side. Yeah. You know, some of the craziest dude, Johnny Gomes told me, he goes, man, oh, man, that was, you know, cause he was in Tampa at the time. He goes, man, these fans are nuts. When I got to Boston cause he was in Tampa at the time. He goes, man, these fans are nuts.

When I got to Boston, I was like, I was glad they were on my side. So, yeah, Max, thank you. Appreciate that. Yeah. Never meet your heroes. You might destroy your property. Yeah, no, I'm sorry about the sunglasses.

We'll survive. I think there's enough. Another good Max story. This is at the Superbowl down in, what town was that in, Max? You remember that? You remember that night? Arizona, right?

Yeah. We go out for a night. Max said he enjoyed himself until about 3 30 in the morning and at the party We were at there was that dude owes the mentalist. Oh, no, it was just a different My bad different mentalist was there and he was asking all of us like you I think he has Jake Who's your favorite baseball player of all time and Max just from the back pushes his way to the front line? He goes my favorite baseball player of all time and Max just from the back pushes his way to the front line. He goes, my favorite baseball player is Shane Victorino. So the guy had to completely change up his trick because now he's got to deal with drunk Max.

He's like, no, you got to do Shane Victorino. You got to do Shane Victorino. Well, I think- Yeah, well, Jay was trying to do Derek Jeter. I thought that was too easy. I thought it was Shane Victorino. Way too easy. Yeah, you make it a little difficult.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You make it a little challenging. Oh, man. Well, Shane, thank you so much. This has been a lot of fun and we appreciate you coming on, man. Appreciate you challenging. Oh man, well Shane, thank you so much. This has been a lot of fun and we appreciate you coming on, man. Appreciate you guys. Thank you, man. Appreciate it.

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Probably a little nerdier than what we are gonna get into because we don't understand golf to the level that Shane does but Shane Good to have you on first question how many Journalists are losing their clubs going over to, uh, Northern Ireland this week? This is my favorite time of year where it's just basically a bunch of guys going over, working the tournament, also playing some rounds and then they lose their clubs and they complain about it all the time. Yeah. I mean, big cat, I, I famously lost mine, uh, at St. Andrew's a few years ago

and had the random person pick them up at Edinburgh and bring them to my hotel, a person that I did not know that just saw them kind of sitting in the corner after I'd lost them. But yeah, I'd say about half, I think about half the people lose their golf clubs on this trip every year. And I still kind of think it might be the only reason we still do Twitter, I think is just to complain to the airlines. It's like maybe the main reason that we jump on it. Yeah, probably shitcoins too. I'd say complaining to airlines and then pumping shitcoins that's

keeping the economy afloat. So what's going on with Royal Port Rush? Because each of these courses for the Open Championship has their own identity. They've got weird quirks about them. Some of them have got what? I just like the idea of like, this is our golf analysis Yeah, so so what what's what's Port Rush's deal? Yeah, what's his deal? What's it? What's what's he up to you? Because sometimes sex sometimes you go over there and it's like oh, this is the course that's got this one 40 foot Other courses it's like oh, we've got these things called burns that run along the fairway on 1718 that'll fuck you up Oh, here's a par three with 75 mile an hour wind that goes right in your face Yeah

There's this one that's got a giant tree that grows and we call it we call it old boss man And you have to avoid old boss man at all times and back in 1970 who can forget when when when sleepy Joe Willaker got stuck in the leaves But there's there's always like one thing about each course when it comes to the open where it's like this is what this course is known for. So what's the deal at Royal Portsmouth? So I would say the thing it's probably known for and it was highlighted in 2019 is internal out of bounds. We don't get a lot of that in the States. The course I grew up on in East Texas had internal out of bounds and we just didn't like abide by it. We just hit the ball over the clubhouse. Didn't care, but, um, it's kind of necessary around this golf course, especially at the first hole, if you go back to 2019, you know, this was like the height

of Ken Rory when a major, right? 2019 going to Northern Ireland, he shot 61 on this golf course when he was 16 years old and the first hole on Thursday hits it out of bounds and made, I think he made it eight in this opening hole and shot 79. So that's part of it. It's probably the most penal in terms of driving. It's a tough golf course to hit fairways. You need to think about St Andrews.

These are 70 yard wise fairways, right? It's almost impossible to miss the fairways around St Andrews. This is a lot tighter. I was talking to a player earlier today and I said, how many drivers said maybe half, like maybe half the holes, I'm gonna hit driver. That's something that probably doesn't play in the hands of a Bryson type, right? Who wants to lean on the driver as much as possible.

But once you find the fairway, that's when it gets interesting. It's a second shot golf course, small greens for a link style golf course. And if you start to hit a lot of greens, I mean, if you do what Shane Lowry did in 2019, he had 80% of the greens that week, you're going to have a real opportunity to contend.

And we talk so much about distance. Like we love talking about Bryson bombing it and Rory bombing it. Scotty hits it plenty far. But when you dive into like golf stats, the, the big time dudes, like the big names we all know are all near the top in terms of stroke gain approach. And that's all iron play. So like the Scotties, more cowas, Victor Hovland's those types of players. And so those will be the names to kind of focus on as, as Thursday gets going.

What in general, like the, this style of course, the links course, what, what is, what do you need specifically in your game? Is it, is a lot more touches, a lot more feel. Um, what, what is it that like the profile? Because obviously Scotty Scott is going to be good anywhere. There's some guys that are going to be good no matter what, but, but maybe guys that will have a chance here that don't have a chance. Other courses, what is it about their game? Yeah, I think the, the interesting part about the open, when you kind of look through it historically is you don't have to hit it super far. I mean, the U S open was never, you have to bomb it kind of golf course. It's kind of turned into that

a little bit, which I think is a bit of a bummer. It just feels like you have to hit driver far to contend and win at a US Open. The PGA is very much like that. Augusta is like that as well. So you think about the majors, right? And they're all lean on the driver, hit it as far as possible. That's not the case. It opens. I mean, you go through the history of this championship specifically, especially kind of in the modern times, and you'll occasionally get a Darren Clark or a Shane Lowry, you know, somebody that's not going to be in the top 50% in terms of driving distance. So I think that's the unique part about it. Like patience is important. I think that's one thing that's gotten to Scotty at this particular major and Bryson as well, is just kind of being patient,

understanding you're going to get some shitty brakes, you're going to hit it in a pop bunker and not being able to stand in it. Like five's okay, move on. I mean, you've got an opportunity on the next hole. So I think as much as anything, it's being okay with getting on this bad side of a draw, having bad weather kind of pop up when somebody else played in perfect conditions, and understanding that's kind of part of the game. And I feel like this feels more four-day golf tournament than maybe some of the other ones we play. So how much of a factor is going to be the roulette wheel of the weather?

Can we rely on anything with the weather at this tournament? Is it always bad in the mornings? Does it get worse in the afternoons? So it doesn't look like it's going to be too nasty in terms of wind this week. The forecasters saying maybe gust in 15, 20 on the weekend, which seems like a lot, but that's not that much in Northern Ireland.

And the first couple of days seem pretty benign in terms of wind conditions. It's going to be wet, and that is the one thing. It's first couple of days seemed pretty benign in terms of wind conditions. It's gonna be wet, and that is the one thing. It's gonna be rainy, it's gonna be wet. The one weird thing about pro golfers is they refuse to wear rain gear. I've asked a lot of them about it, and they're just like, I don't like the way it feels,

and obviously they get free clothes, and like, whatever, I'll just throw this water away on the back end. But I mean, if it gets really gross, kind of the mudder type of players are the ones you kind of focus on. I think about guys that grew up in this. I think about guys that have played in open

in the past that feel like this. You go back to 2019, it was gross all four days of that open championship. And obviously, Lowry was there, and Tommy Fleetwood contended as well. Some other names I kind of like in these conditions, like I like a guy like Patrick Reed, who can just kind of mud it up and doesn't mind if it gets nasty,

almost prefers it. Even a Jordan Speed type, who's just kind of mud it up and doesn't mind if it gets nasty, almost prefers it. Even a Jordan Speed type, who's OK if it gets a little nasty and plays a little bit tougher in terms of the conditions. So those are maybe the names I lean towards. And then somebody like Scottie, and I keep going back to this, but Scottie does not like it when it's quote unquote unfair. I mean, that is the one weird thing about Scottie. He wants a great shot rewarded, and that's just not

what Lynx Golf's about. And when you look at Scottie's record at the open versus all the other majors, this is the one he has not played great at. So I think for Scottie, it's trying to lean a little bit more into that world versus, oh my God, I pulled the three wood off. Why is it not in the middle of the green? Why is it in that pop bunker? Yeah. So what is it about Lynx golf that a great shot is not rewarded? Is it just that much more difficult? Yeah. Firm, firm ground. So it rolls a lot lot. So you know, you might land, you know, you watch pro golf, you guys watch, you know, PJ torque off a decent amount. You see a ball

land on the front of the green, it's probably gonna stay on the green, right? Here it can land on the front of the green, roll, roll, roll, roll off the back of the green, go down into a pop bunker, and you might be against a lip where you can't get it out. I mean, I think that's the unpredictability of kind of firm conditions. And I think it's something like us nerdy golf people prefer. Like we like seeing the ball roll. I mean, PFT, I know you're a big route for the golf course guy. And these are the golf courses I tend to root for the most because you have to accept what happens.

Like I caddied at St. Andrews out of college for a few months. I saw plenty of good golf shots that ended up in horrible spots. So understanding that it's not always going to be perfect. And, uh, you know, it's how many shots do you see a three pointer that kind of rims in and out and doesn't go through, right? It would look like a perfect shot, but it didn't go in or a perfect pass, you know, over the top of a safety or a corner and the receiver just drops it. Like those things happen in sports.

And I think at golf it happens the most in these conditions versus most of the stuff we see the rest of the season. I'm excited. Yeah. Might be a dumb question, but are there any golfers that are luckier, that are better at being lucky than others? I mean, I'm sure there are some that would say they're probably luckier. I think Jordan, for the first probably four or five years

of his career, felt very lucky. I mean, you think about the way he won the US Open, right? It's like Dustin Johnson hits it on the green, has a putt for eagle, three putts, makes par. Jordan Spieth wins the US Open at Chambers Bay, right? Like that felt a little lucky. It kind of not handed an open, but you know, you got the benefit of somebody kind of struggling down the stretch. I think Spieth's one of those players that kind of feels lucky, but it always seems to be the guys that are like playing the best golf, right? Like

Scottie feels like he gets lucky a decent amount. John Rahm feels like he gets lucky a decent amount, right? I mean, when you hit great golf shots, you're always always going to be rewarded on either one end or the back end. So I always kind of lean maybe towards the better players over the, maybe the guys that struggle a bit. I got a quick headline grab for you. Uh, dig deep into the narratives of this open. Is it now or never for Tommy Fleetwood?

God feels like it. I mean this, the traveler's thing was such a bomber. I like, I love rooting for Tommy Fleetwood. He's my pick this week. the seed a lot of the time, obviously has the talent on the floor, but doesn't get it done. That's kind of who Tommy Fleetwood has become in professional golf. He played great here in 2019 finished second. He plays the open, the best of all the majors, and he's one of the best iron players in the world. So it's kind of like, do it now or you're never going to get it done. This is the last time I'm picking them though. I can't pick them again. Like I said, I pick them too many times already and he never wins, but I'm leaning on, on the Gonzaga of golf once again here. I have a question about the mentals of the golfers this week. So we have Scotty Shaffer just gave a press conference that was very honest and very real where he basically was

like I celebrate a win for about two seconds and then I'm like hey what are we getting for dinner with my family. I'm just talking about like he, this pursuit, this endless pursuit, and maybe the highs aren't really fully worth it. And then you also have Rory talking about being honest about winning the masters and feeling like there's kind of nothing left. Are these guys okay? Are we okay? Is as, as a golf community, what's going on? I mean, everybody's also firing their caddies like every two weeks now. I don't know what's going on. I mean, everybody's also firing their caddies like every two weeks now. I don't know what's going on. I was texting with a caddy this morning. I'm like, this seems abnormal. Does it feel abnormal to you guys? I

do think it is something unique to golf, right? And I think this was a big struggle for Rory after the Masters is you win the Masters for you. It's the biggest thing you've ever accomplished, right? I mean, he admitted it. He talked about it. Obviously, you saw the emotions on the green. we talk about it in the sports world for what three days four days and then it's like another golf tournament that quote unquote matters as much as any other other big signature events outside the majors right so I do think golf of all the events is the strangest one because you don't win a lot and when you do win you get two or three days

and the narrative changes and I mean if I asked you guys you guys pay attention to sports nonstop right. If I asked you guys who won the open two years ago or four years ago or six years ago you probably wouldn't know. You know probably taking Hank knows Hank's got it. Well Shane Lowry Shane Lowry 2019. Yeah but Hank doesn't even know who's on the what's the live team you always ask him about It's Justin Johnson, it's Harold Barnard Patrick Reed and it's this guy. Oh no eaters Yeah, yeah Yeah, no, you're right though. We all move on very quickly from a lot of this stuff But I do keep like a file in the back of my head of who has won a major. Yeah. You actually do more who hasn't won a major. Yes. The file is Tom. If you like if you want a Superbowl or NBA championship or all this stuff and

other sports you have like months to celebrate it right. Yeah. And you have all this time to enjoy it and you get away from the game and all that stuff and golf just doesn't really allow you that. I'd say maybe the only time these players really let loose is after winning Ryder Cup because there's not a lot of golf on the back end of that but major season is so compact now with that PGA move a few years ago that it just feels like hey win it and then ride back to it and I honestly think that was a big part of why Rory struggled at the PGA. I mean it's a golf course he should play well at but I do think sometimes he's like, did I get my flowers appropriately for what I just pulled off?

Because nobody thought I was going to win this thing ever. And it came down the stretch, I don't think I was going to win it anyway. And then I do get it done. And it's like, what are you going to do the rest of the season versus what you just got done and accomplished in your career? Well, you're an illegal driver, we found out later.

So we can wipe that one away from you. So you mentioned the caddies getting fired. I know he's not playing in the open, but Joel Damon did part ways with Gino, his beloved caddy, recurring guest on part of my take. That one stung because I like a lot of other people. We watched full swing on Netflix, and it felt like these were two just great friends that were just going to stick it out together. Do you have any idea what happened there? I think that Gino has been very honest with Joel about if this isn't working for you at any point, let me know.

And I think sometimes you need a new voice in your ears, a caddy. I mean, that's something Phil and Bones talked about when they split up. Right. It's sometimes you have this messaging that you say to a player. And at some point, it just stops. Big Cat, it's like when you yell your kids, right? Yeah. And it just stops. It'll be cat. It's like when you yell at your kids, right? And it just stops working and you've kind of got to change your approach and it's like, do I need to be nicer? Do I need to stop offering iPad or ice cream or whatever

the case may be and try something a little bit different. But the caddy, I will say it does seem very easy right now. And I'm not saying this about Joel or anybody, but it does seem super simple as a golfer right now to say, I need a change. Let's make it the caddy. And I think sometimes the grass isn't always greener. And I know Gino's going to get another bag. He's a very good caddy. I also know Gino's one of those dudes that if he wants to do TV at some point, he would be excellent at TV. So maybe if the caddy thing doesn't work out, he could go down that route as well. And I hope somebody I'm working with with higher him. Cause he's

a, he's a really, really good dude Dude thoughtful dude and knows a ton about the game. Yeah the other day I I did a countdown on my my daughter three two one put your shoes on like you have three seconds and We got past one and she we just kind of stared at each other and I think she probably needs a new dad She realized what happened nothing happens after you get to one. Yeah, I just I don't know I'm currently in the same phase right now with my daughter big big cat. I don't even know. Like I have no other pitches man. Like I've tried all my pitches. I kind of, they're just hitting them out of the park and I don't know what else to do. Um, I almost feel like I might read a parenting book, which I said I probably would never do, but I think I might lean that route. Uh, if you have one

to suggest, let me know. I just throw out crazy shit, uh, that kind of confuses them. Like I'll be like, we'll be driving in the highway I just like I'm gonna drop you off on the highway and you're just gonna have to walk home and they'll and they'll like laugh And just probably not in the book. Yeah, they're like, what do you mean? Like we'll just get hit by cars and die and then I'm like, all right We have a good laugh and we move on have you thought about shit? My son asked me the other day if I died and mom died could he live with dude perfect and I was like, yes I don't think so.

But I don't know, I'd be gone. Yeah. Sure, sounds great. It's also a great question. Yeah. Have you tried double ice cream? I know ice cream might not work, but what if you just said, we'll do double ice cream?

Oh dude, we're on the popsicles right now. Popsicles are killing it. In the summer, they love. The popsicles post camp is like one of the things, at least saves me about an hour of silence, which is nice. Yep. Absolutely. We got to check in with you on the update on the blueprint, the handshake agreement, the framework that we have between the live and the

PGA. We've been all over this. So how is the how is the blueprint looking right now? Have we made any updates to it has have terms been agreed upon? Dust has settled on the blueprint. They might abandon the project at some point. Feels like the PGA Tours kind of won this thing. I feel like a year ago we were all maybe thinking the other side of it.

But I mean, Libs out there and it's producing players. And I don't think any of the players care about it anymore. But I don't feel like they're anywhere any closer than they were when they said it was, you know, pending 18 months ago, two years ago, whatever the case may be. It just feels like the blueprint is an idea of like the vacation home that you decided you can't afford, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It just got everyone off their back for a little bit. Yeah. I mean, you just throw words out in sport and then people go, you know, it's like we're, we're, we're searching for a new coach. The, the, the process is out there and

you then, you know, you never hire a new coach. We've got concepts of a plan. Yeah. Of the two mergers. Yeah. Um, can, uh, so, so give us your, if you had to pick, if I had one gunned ahead, gone to head, Max, put your gun up, gun to head. Max is leaving. Shane, you have to give us five guys and one of them's going to win. When a gun at me. Yep. Zach pointed gun. Oh, he's got no, he does not do it. That's not in his DNA. Change the, change the show Shane, the guns that the Zach has Adam right here. Oh, look at that. Oh yeah. Oh my goodness. They're there. Never thought he would come that way. All right. I got names for you. Five guys. I got Tommy Fleawood. Okay. Uh, I got names for you. Five guys. I got I

got Tommy Fleetwood. Okay. Uh finished second 2019 at Port Rush. Uh T4, T10, two of his last three starts at the open. I like Tommy Fleetwood. Um you guys are Draft King guys, right? And isn't that the deal? Yeah. Yeah. Um I was looking up

some numbers on Draft King Spieth. I like a little bit as a sleeper. Okay. Um plus 450 Draft Kings to top ten plus 900 to top five. Um, I like both those numbers. I think in terms of the favorite, favorite guys up there, I like John Romulat, um, at the open. Um, Cameron young, I think is a long shot.

I'm a fan of he's played great at the open and his very short career. And then Harry Hall is a name I also like. He's played some solid golf this year. Um, maybe not to win, but I think somebody to finish in the top 10. Plus he's sponsored by the Hard Rock Cafe, which I think is the funniest golf sponsorship out there right now. Hard Rock Cafe on the, I didn't know they still were that like this. There's an iconic one in Philadelphia. Yeah. The commanders took it over. We took it over before the game. It was all over the news. Yeah. Is the, was the food okay? Like, is

it still memorabilia all over the place like how was it? Well, I wasn't there for it. It was just it's like a Philly stronghold It's the most important restaurant in downtown Philadelphia and for the managers fans take that over really said something. Mm-hmm So yeah, I'm very I'm intimately familiar with the okay with the heart. I feel like I'm gonna go to a Chili's over But that's oh, that's great. I'm chill. Yeah. Hey, did you have a question? No, I was gonna say also Cameron Young MLB That's great. Chilis. Yeah. Hey, did you have a question? I was going to say also Cameron Young MLB What do you mean? Yeah, he's got the MLB like that's probably the second most ridiculous sponsorship and go. Oh, yeah Yeah, I don't get Hank. I don't get it at all. I just don't like what are they getting out of that? I think his dad is just friends with Rob Manfred or something. That's awesome. What's that? Wait, what's the most ridiculous? Well, he said

Cafe and Harry Hall is pretty ridiculous. I do like the idea of a professional athlete being sponsored by a different sport. That's kind of cool. I would love to be sponsored by the NFL. That's the most golf thing ever. If you guys remember Payne Stewart, the late Payne Stewart was sponsored by the NFL for a while and he would wear the team local team's color outfit that week during the tournament, which is awesome. That's right. Go to Miami and have dolphin colors. Yeah. what about our good friend, our dear friend Chris Gotterup just won the Scottish Open. Confirmed AWL. Confirmed AWL. Is there any translation between winning the Scottish Open and then how you perform at the Open Championship? I mean, I think you know, I mean, obviously keep the train rolling, but again, it's not the same golf course as the Renaissance. I hate saying it that way by the way. Um, it sounds ridiculous, but, uh, that place you just drive the hell out of the driver, just hit it as far as you can. This place again, not going to be that type of golf course, but he's playing solid. So, I mean, I could see him going out there in a, and kind of following it up with maybe a top 25 or top 10. I don't think he's going to win.

What about a big week for our guy Brooks Koepka? We have the take ease on Friday. So we haven't already called in or is he calling? We have not taped yet the Blake of the year, but he is obviously in the running. Hasn't won that. What does he have a better chance of winning this tournament or winning Blake of the year? Man, what a great question. I would say he played really well here in 2019, but that was kind of high out of his power. Um, play with JB Holmes on, on Sunday, that kind of crushed his chances. Like JB shot a million. Um, I think JB Holmes was T three or T four going to the final round and finished like 45th, a shot like 86. Um, I would say probably Blake of the year is probably where I'd leave. Um, right now, that

being said, nothing would make me happier than kept me getting in contention. Keppke and Spieth playing well in majors makes this stuff more fun. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Big time agree.

You just mentioned he got screwed by his partner. Is that a pretty common thing where if your partner, if he shoots in the 80s, that you have a most of the guy, most of the time the other guys that are paired with him have a very hard time shooting low? Depends on the personality. I mean, Keppke is not, I would think he'd probably even admit this, not the most patient golfer out there. Uh, he does not like slow play. He doesn't

like guys that take forever. When you're shooting 86, you're taking forever. Um, JB home's also very slow. So he was slow and you know, shooting a hundred. So that doesn't help the situation. I think some guys just can kind of like check out, look away, um, look at the water, talk to their caddy, tell stories, things like that. But I think it's kind of personality driven if you can handle it or not. Yeah. All right, Shane, I got one last question. It's a row back question. R H O B A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. Like I said, uh, they have, you have recaps of every round, right? Golf

on CBS on YouTube. We do something. We do something with CBS on the YouTubes throughout the week and then we'll do the HQ hits and all that good stuff as well. So make sure you tune in because you can, you can, you can see the analysis after every round. Uh, Shane is the best in the biz when it comes to this stuff. Uh, and speaking of you love golf, uh, you golf a lot, but you also have a job. And I wanted to say thank you, Shane, because he actually had a tee time that he moved to come on this show today. Something that Henry Lockwood would never do. Yeah, I had a nine or 30. What's the question?

What's the question? It's a robot. Thanking her. Yeah. That was a robot question. All right. Ro back question. Shane, if you were playing Dungeons and Dragons with us, would you be complaining that it's going too long? Cause you had a tee time. No, I would be dialed on my job. I'd be locked in and I'd be ready to roll. But wait, that's something that I would be, uh, that I'd be doing. I mean, I like shout out to my buddy catropa and Joe Musso. I was supposed to be playing a little golf with him this morning. Big cat texts me yesterday and I went, Hey, listen, man, when the boys call, I got to do it. And golf be damned. But wait, what if it was on your birthday? I mean, even more reason to do my job. Nobody

cares about my birthday. I'm not turning 16 anymore. Yep. Like every birthday I have from this point forward matters almost 0% to everybody involved. How's your game right now? You know, dude, I, I kind of lost it a little bit earlier this year and I just found something about two weeks ago. Um, so a trending upwards, I'd say, um, I shot a couple under the other day, which was nice. And my home club have not touched that number in a little bit. And I got a big, a big tournament next week that I'm looking forward to. So I'd say it's on the up and up. How's Hanks game right now? Uh, it's not bad. He's playing a lot. He missed an entire day of workout in Lake Tahoe. He's not, he's not as long

as he would like to be. Yeah. But I watched the long drive video, PFT. I mean you were giving it everything you had him or was your back that messed up? My back's really messed up right now. Yeah, it sucks, but did you like the course that we're playing on? Yeah. Look great. Yeah. We got more coming. We had, we played a skins match that we're playing on? Yeah, look great. Yeah, we got more coming We have we played a skins match that we like it's great course We talked to the guy that runs the course and he the last thing he said to us before we go out there He goes, okay, don't get bit. Yeah, and we're like wait bit by what? Yeah He's like I owes him bears. Okay

I was caddying in Australia years ago for a friend of mine on the LPGA tour and I am like I'm not an arachnophobebe, but I do not like spiders. Like get out of my face with that stuff. Snakes, whatever. I lived in Arizona for a long time, not a spider guy at all. And I'm like jet lag, get the bag out of the car. I'm walking to the first tee to play a practice round. And I almost walk into a spider web with a spider that was probably seven inches long.

Like one of those ones that looks fake, like you put like outside of your house for Halloween. And I told my friend Irene, I go, listen, don't take this the wrong way. But if you miss hit a drive and it goes in the shit, I'm not looking for it. Like, yeah, you can have a spotter help you. You can go look for it if you want. But I'm out like this is not part of my job. I'm not getting bit by a spider. No, thank you. Yes. Yeah, I will never golf in Australia. Everything else really will either kill you or buy you a beer

Yeah, yeah Australia none of it New Zealand don't understand that's true. That's good point. All right. Well Shane, you're the best Thank you. Appreciate you as always and we'll talk soon Thanks boys Okay, let's wrap up the show it is summertime we're We're golfing. We're on the boat. We're having some backyard barbecues. It's the warm weather. And when you close your eyes, you think about what would be the most delicious drink to drink during all those things I just described. It's Mountain Dew Baja Blast. Grab a blast of refreshing tropical lime flavor with Mountain

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Okay guys on chicks, but first Zack We have an official date Don't say time or place or anything any details, but do we have an official date? We I won't dogs to date but we do have an official date. Let's go! We do. Alright. We got date, we have time, location, activity. Don't say all of them. We do have all of those things. Today is not that day, the day is coming soon so as long as she's still down for the day in the upcoming days we will be going on a date. Are you excited? I'm looking forward to it very much so, PFT.

I'm excited for you. And I think you're gonna nail this. What was the response like? Was it happy? Was it friendly? In the discourse back and forth? I would say so, it was a friendly cordial. Friendly cordial?

Good baseline to build off of. Friendly cordial's a great combo. I think it uh Hopefully goes well. Yeah. Yeah, we're not doing Pilates on the first day. We thankfully We're not getting into Pilates studio on the first date. No, that would be catastrophic Defcom one the highest of Defcom. Yeah, I can't never remember if it's five or one. I think it's I think it's one I can't never remember if it's five or one. I think it's I think it's one Have you guys seen the contraptions you got to get into for Pilates? Yeah, yeah, they're intimidating. It's scary

We're gonna well maybe if the first date goes well And there's a second date then we will do a video of us trying out Pilates so that we can get you up to speed I did see there were quite a few Pilates studios trying to get you guys to do Pilates Okay, all right. Well, we'll maybe do it. All right Hank guys on chicks Hey PMT another Rachel AWL here Just want to say that I've been Listened for years and Zack is one of the most genuine and well-intentioned people you guys have had on the show His genuine appreciation excitement for everything he gets to do makes me so happy My question is Zack if you could plan your ideal first date. What would it be? Don't talk to date don't talk to your date. I definitely I won't talk to date ideal first date

I think I think drinks is a safe call. I also think maybe like a an activity, but not too strenuous like Intermediate strength no no no beginner strenuous. You're gonna. Yeah, yeah, no, beginner strenuous. Beginner, yeah, yeah. Maybe a walk. A light walk. A walk would be not bad. Wine walk. Yeah, a little wine action.

Yeah. I feel like a walk is good, because you can do a walk, and then if it's going well, be like, let's go grab a drink. It's kind of a lead-in, right? Checkpoints along the way. Yeah. And I feel like a walk also hits that Every girl's brain being in a rom-com where it's like hey, let's walk the city if it's in the fall love yeah Yeah, nice autumn walk

I also like how Zach's brain works in terms of video games like hitting the checkpoints along the way So if you screw something up you just go back to the bench. Yeah, I could see the similarities yet there Yes, we'd have to go back to the same point at that point. Yeah. Yeah Okay. Hey guys Hey, I was recently on my honeymoon with my husband and I found out he body washes before he washes his hair I've always done the opposite and I shampoo and condition my hair before I body wash Am I the weird one or is he I think it just comes down to guys first girls. More specifically, long hair versus not having long hair. This is also a good Mount Rushmore, don't care about what order you wash it.

I also definitely do not have a consistent order. At all. Because guys, especially guys with short hair, we just take the body wash and then we just put that all over our body. Why'd you say that? Because I used to have short hair. Oh.

So you just take the all in one. That's stealing valor. That's not a we you can use. Yeah, well for like 30 years. Yeah, I don't know what order I do it in. I don't think it matters. I do body wash and then wash my hair. I think I do body wash first.

I think you're supposed to do, you're supposed to, if you have long hair. You're supposed to shit, you're supposed to shit, then get in the shower. I can't tell you the last time that I've taken a shower without at least trying to shit. Yes, of course. And I sit on the toilet for like 20 minutes. Yeah, whatever. But I'm normally body wash before wash your hair, but I think you're supposed to like let the conditioners stay in your hair. Yeah, I wonder. I found out when I was like 26 that you were only supposed to wash your hair like once or twice a week

Yeah, I did it every I still do it. Yeah, I wonder do you think how many women do you think realize that? We do not take long showers as men We're just shitting for the first 20 minutes of the shower because I turn the shower on and I know that's kind of wasting But I also don't want anyone to hear me shitting You're you're a self-conscious shitter., I mean, I've learned that I do some damage dude. Yeah, not pretty. Yeah. You bag it up. Yeah. Listen, I had a couple of tweets about that. Probably overshared, but I also stand by what I did and I'll have to do it again. Done it before. Did it in Tahoe. Gonna do it again. If you get stuck in a situation

where you have a clogged toilet Just find a little plastic bag put your hand in it do it Do they make it all in one body wash that also has like you can brush your teeth with it like all all in one And drink and drink. Yeah. Yeah, you got you get the shampoo the conditioner the body wash the toothpaste the mouth Loops jerk off lubed Jack off deodorant body wash No body wash dry. wash can dry you out, Hank. Jack off with body wash?

It stings. Dry you right out. Dr. Bronner's just have a couple 18 in 1 options. 18 in 1? I love that. You can do full body, teeth. It's got a meal in there? It's got protein? I don't know the calorie do full body, teeth. It's got a meal in there. It's got protein.

I don't know the calorie stats on it, but maybe. It's pre and post workout. Why not? Yeah. Douche. Douche your butt. Hi, PMT boys. First of all, speaking for the lady at AWLs,

we're very offended Max wouldn't consider attending a bachelorette party for his punishment. Yeah, it was disgusting. Secondly, as someone who's striking out on dating apps, would you consider helping me with a new opening line to use on guys to really grab their attention? Tits only get you so far. Wait, an opening line? No, tits get you everywhere.

What? I don't know. I mean, just tits are there. You just have to say hi. Yeah. Do you like my tits? Hi. That's actually a really good opening line. What? I don't know. I mean, tits are there. You just have to say hi. Yeah, do you like my tits?

Hi. That's actually a really good opening line because then the guy will just say yes. And then you're off and running. Hey, I'm a woman. Hey, how are you? That should do the trick most of the time. Hey, I have tits.

I don't know if you saw. Scroll up. Yeah, I don't know what an opening line would look like for a woman. Just notice him doing anything be like, Wow, you look really strong. Yeah, or Oh, no, maybe just nice fish hit him with Yeah, like parlay for tonight? Question mark. Yeah, that that would doubt that will reel him in right there. Want to go to the MLS game with me? Yeah, like if you're gonna ask you to it she means business. I

Don't think that would work. She's not doing it for fun in the world. Yeah, it is good point Hey PMT crew fine time AWL here with some first-aid advice for a new Zach rap on The first date you go absolutely need flowers go colorful not just roses and pick somewhere nice But not too nice because you can't set the bar too high my vote would be a chili's so you can both get a trip dip And one dollar marks the girls love chilies Chilies chilies is definitely a place that girls get horny at it's very romantic for sure Flowers of chilies so we're talking about flowers than chilies. Yeah flowers and chilies I think that does play have you thought about the flowers moves that I haven't thought about that

I do respect the chilies move though. Mm-hmm My if they get to a chilies pivot now Don't change the location. Yeah. Yeah, don't change the location flowers. I feel like is a try-hard move. It's kind of heavy first date It's a very heavy move. I think flowers is a try-hard move just period. Anniversary, birthday. Yeah, I do it, but I don't like it. In conjunction with other things, yeah.

I'm a random flower guy. Oh, wow, try-hard. That raises a lot of questions though, Max. Try-hard. Surprise flowers? Surprise flowers can get you into a situation where like, what'd you do wrong? Yes, flowers are the easiest thing to do though like you're just at the grocery store

Yeah, don't like you see like ten dollars, and it's like oh, yeah Why wouldn't I why wouldn't I just buy these sounds like did something yeah? I used to have a guy and there was a guy that on my commute home in Massachusetts would be on the street selling them and sometimes you buy them for yourself home in Massachusetts would be on the street selling them and sometimes you buy them for yourself Yeah, the I fucked up flowers Yeah, doesn't Ernie Johnson every time he goes to the grocery store He gets a dozen roses for his wife and try hard move and then a dozen roses for a stranger Yeah, to just give it to him like his flowers. Yeah, that kind of rocks actually

Yeah, and the stranger thing Ernie's nice numbers three three that was Hank. I was Hank. No, you're not Me oh look at that shirt pug pug you're untapped did they send that get your own number bitch I just did bitch did untapped send that Fuck yes, I was yeah untapped hooked it up pug. I I love watching pug tap in there's just something about it So we quit the boys watching the rep. That's Joe week sipping watching So we've sipping he deleted the G at the end of sipping watching the replies come in nice Good beer toast I'll go six I'm gonna go 66. I'm gonna go 21 99 has been cold

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