Pardon My Take - Shark Tank's Barbara Corcoran, Deep Dive With Billy Football, ARod saved Sports + Mt Flushmore

Episode Date: March 30, 2020

ARod probably saved sports and the world but Big Cat isn't bragging about it (2:38 - 8:59). James Dolan has the 'Rona and Knicks fan still have that hate (8:59 - 14:57). Roger Goodell is trying to sav...e sports and who's back of the week (14:57 - 30:34). Shark Tank's Barbara Corcoran joins the show to hear dumb ideas, talk business, and how Shark Tank works (30:34 - 59:41). PFT invents a billion dollar corporation, Mt Flushmore of worst websites, and Monday Deep Dives with Billy Football. This week's topic, Bears.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcast, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon music. On today's part of my take, we have Barbara Corcoran, shark tanks, Barbara Corcoran, who actually after the interview liked us so much, she got our personal email address and sent us an email saying that she loved us and wants us to come work for Barbara Corcoran incorporated. This was probably about two months ago. So I don't know if that offer still stands. We'd be going back and forth actually. Yeah, yeah. Awesome interview with her. We have Billy football and new instead of Monday reading, we're doing Monday deep dives with Billy football while quarantine
Starting point is 00:00:43 last. So this week, we're going to do a deep dive on bears. We learned a lot of bear facts. This is the only place you're going to learn a lot of bear facts on a Monday sports podcast. We initially it was just for a Piper nation, but we we found out and you'll come along this journey with us. Billy took us to a more interesting place overall. Yeah, we we got all deep into bears. We found out about everything about bears. We have who's back of the week Mount flush more and more. And before we do that, part of my take is brought to you by the cash app not only is the easiest place to send money to your friends. It's the safest. Coronavirus is no joke. Everyone is quarantine locked down shelter in place. Well
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Starting point is 00:03:28 Okay, all right, let's let's restart this because we're going I'll do my path right now. No, I want to do my alternate. I want to I want to hype you up real quick. No, I was gonna do my alternate. It was just going to be that the AROD Corp has solved coronavirus. So we're fine. Okay, we'll be back. We'll be back in a minute because we'll like sports will probably be back before you even know, because President Trump called up AROD on Friday night. And I don't know. Two, two great business minds in the world getting together a little powwow master of never ever testing positive for anything himself. A rod, boom, get up fact. That's a fact. Yes. He earned his 10 stripes. He's the he's the new Yankee captain. In fact, a rod. I think we could all
Starting point is 00:04:10 learn a lot from a rod in these trying times. And that's just like, go back to your business, project success, you'll be fine. What do you mean project success? Well, just doesn't have success. No, I'm saying when you're a rod winners of all time, a rod was great at alienating his teammate so much that he was natural. So let me tell you a little story about a rod pft a little story about sports here a rod people don't I'm just saying I'm giving him credit. He is the one to go to a rod. Every year would buy every new player on the team every rookie who was coming up three new custom made suits. He would do that. He'd take him to his tailor. He'd buy him three suits and say this is how you have to dress. You're in the big leagues now kid. And guess what
Starting point is 00:04:52 that didn't get publicity because that's just the type of guy a rod is. How many suits you got you big cat? What'd you say? How many suits you got you? Like 1520. Well, a rod should do that for all the doctors and nurses get them brand new personal protective equipment. Sure he will. I'm sure he will. How did people find out about him buying suits for everybody because it didn't get out there. I just told the story. I'm breaking the news right now. Okay. That's huge. Can I just let me just gas you up real quick because you are I know that you and Hank both had rough weekends and I want you guys to be okay. So like five minutes before the show started just wrote down some things that I love about you guys. You ready? Sure. Okay. I love the cat cave. No way
Starting point is 00:05:35 will this be a joke. I love it. It's not. I love the cat. I haven't watched it but I love there you go. There it is. A lot of joy. But I know I love that it brings you joy. I love that you do it. Well, tonight I was not happy because I'm I actually oh what happened. I'm just bummed. Sundays bum me out is I all I can think about is the fact that we get on the horses. No, we should be getting the final four right now. I'm telling you the weekends are regular big cats living or was turned into the new Santa Anita racetrack. He's just like throwing horses all over the place. Hank, I actually realized this day I miss your yawns. I really do. I miss I miss the sound of them. I miss how weird they are. It's like, you know, in Goodwill hunting when Robin Williams
Starting point is 00:06:17 is like, you know, my wife's farts. That's the stuff that I miss. I miss Hank's yawns. I miss Bubba's jawns. I miss I miss his fits. My life is basically a giant series of yawns now. So I'll just FaceTime you one day. Yeah, I actually walk in the afternoon. I feel like I'm sick, but I'm not sick because you know, when you have, when you actually are sick and you stay home, you know, cause you're sick for like a week and you have that feeling of I haven't been outside. I haven't really done anything. I have that without being sick and it's just this weird like kind of no man's land that we're all just living in at this point. There's one for me. There's like a part of like the natural procrastinator in me, like likes to push things off,
Starting point is 00:06:59 but if it's like too long of a break, then I have nothing to like push it off till it's like, Oh, I'll push it off a week and do it next week. I could push this off a month and nothing's going to be going on in a month. I'm happy you brought that up, Hank, because I've been thinking a lot about this. I like this, this whole two weeks that we've had off and it's going to go for another four weeks has made me realize that I might never be able to retire because I'm like a worker bee that needs to be working, except do you think I could, if I had the ability to still gamble on sports at night, would that keep me working enough? Because that's the part that you have to pay your, you have to pay your gambling debts. No, no, no, no, no, no, you don't understand what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I'm saying, like right now I would not, I can't maintain this life. Like I need to be busy. I need to be doing something. It's driving me crazy. It's driving my brain crazy. But would if sports existed right now and I wasn't working, would I be able to survive by just gambling at night? And I think the answer is yes, but I don't know. Yes. No, I definitely think that it would make all the difference in the entire world. Forget about even just sports, but like any sort of live event happening anywhere, just like I need life to be happening around me. It's like God has put us all on punishment. Like God has grounded America or just the world. He's grounded the world because probably we didn't take like 3000 years of thou shalt not kill seriously.
Starting point is 00:08:23 He's putting his foot down, but that's what it feels like. It feels just like we're back in middle school when you weren't allowed to leave your room and you didn't have a TV in there. That's what this feels like just an extended period of time. Yes, it sucks. It sucks. So So I haven't thought about reading, but no, well, I so I thought about reading today. I picked up a book and it's come to that. I was about to tweet out literally it's come to this. I'm reading a book and there are no pictures. But then I realized that all I had done was picked up my book. And then I was like, I should tweet that I'm reading a book and I immediately put my book down to tweet it out. And I was like, what am I, what am I doing right now? I'm tweeting that I'm reading a book
Starting point is 00:08:59 that I haven't started yet. So yeah, life is what happens in between cloud chasing. Yeah, it sucks. It sucks. But here we are. The only other stories we had that are sports adjacent besides a rod saving America, which I'm sure will happen very soon. James Dolan got the big C, the Rona and Nick's fans everywhere. Now we're obviously not rooting against anyone who has the Rona. We want everyone to be healthy. But Nick's fans, they did have like three minutes there where our guy shams tweeted that he had the Rona. And then three minutes later was like he is not suffering or experiencing any symptoms at this moment and is fine in his Uber mansion somewhere on Long Island or the Hamptons or wherever the fuck he lives. And that was like Nick's fans,
Starting point is 00:09:48 you could feel collectively New York City couldn't get lower and then it got lower because they were raised for a minute. I'll say this about James Dolan and the Rona Scare. It was a good test of everybody just to see like how cold hearted and cold blooded we really are. And I think that as Americans we passed it, there weren't as there weren't that many jokes about James Dolan. Oh, not that I saw. I don't think you follow enough Nick's fans. No, I do. And the prevailing sentiment was, I really hope that he's okay. And I hope that he does everything that he can to possibly focus on his health, including stepping away from the team and just taking the time, getting the best, put him on a ship, take him to Antarctica, keep him totally in isolation.
Starting point is 00:10:32 He can't hurt us anymore. No, I think, I think this is one of those times that your Twitter feed might be too NFL centric because there was a lot of people who are wishing for him not to get better off of it. A lot of Nick's fans that were like hallelujah were free. So they passed the test there. I was like, I would, I would actually be worried for Nick's fans if they didn't have that reaction. It means that they still have sports hatred in their blood. They can still feel passion about the man that has given them absolutely nothing for the last couple of decades. I saw more people reacting to the tweet that said, but he has no symptoms. Yes. Angrily. Yes. Then I did anyone else say anything else.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Well, when the no symptoms tweet comes up, that's when it's everyone's like, okay, we can joke about this a little bit. And it's good. We're good to go. You need to have that like all clear from shams. And yeah, I don't know. Maybe I do follow too many NFL accounts because most of the things that I saw were just people being like, I'm not going to comment on this, but you know what I would say if I wanted to comment on it or like Cam Newton really should be signed by now as James Nolan is fighting the Rona. But yeah, no, I actually was happy that Nick's fans had the reaction. Like I was like, good, you guys still feel the passion because I've said this before, but the farther we get away, it's we're in this weird spot where life is so weird.
Starting point is 00:11:50 But every day that it's weird, it becomes normal because like today was weird, but it's the same as yesterday. So now it's normal. Right. It's a new normal. And I'm going to go back to what we talked about last week, how we're not getting any medals or anything like that for sheltering in place and that sort of thing. First of all, I feel like we should create a part of my take pandemic response team. And we can give out awards or t-shirts or whatever to people who are staying in place because we do need to pat on the back and it's not our fault because I blame I blame boomers for giving us participation trophies. So we're used to getting rewarded for doing stuff. We need a participation
Starting point is 00:12:31 trophy for not participating in anything like a non participation trophy. We need to be rewarded with something like that. Yeah, I mean, I agree. I've been I've been I've been mad about it for two weeks now. I want people to start telling us good job because I'm my brain is simple like that. I can't I can't continue to do nothing and stay in my house if Andrew Cuomo doesn't get in front of everyone in his in his golf polo shirt and tell me, Hey, you're doing a good job. Keep doing it. Keep it up. Right. I need I need something. I need the ad a boys in the form of his power points. Correct. And I need Andrew Cuomo to open up PowerPoint and have Clippy come out and Clippy be like, Hey, it looks like you're confronting a global pandemic. Would you like some help
Starting point is 00:13:14 figuring out who to give a pat on the back to hit up the millennials. That's what I need to happen right now. I need to feel better about myself. And I don't know. I've been going to some weird places. I got into sleep podcasts. Yesterday. Have you listened to any sleep podcast? It's a half. Yeah, it's just a person that that talks until you fall asleep. The Matthew McConaughey one. Well, no, it's essentially the J. Mary Audi show. But intentionally, he's talking. That was a Rick Riley late. That's a big time. Well, laid me up for that one. But if you listen to it, it's actually like bizarre stuff. You keep listening to him be like, is this guy hypnotizing me? And all he does is he just like rambles on
Starting point is 00:13:51 and he's like, don't feel any pressure for fall asleep or you're probably going to start falling asleep soon. Before I do it, I was that that's what I'm going to end up doing. It's just like competing against myself to see how long I can stay awake listening to put you to sleep podcast. No, I've been doing the opposite where right before I go to sleep, I hop on Twitter and click the trends about coronavirus and then just fill my entire body with like crippling anxiety. So then I don't sleep. Well, that's why I need to go to sleep super healthy. It's been really Hey, did you see that story about the infant dying in Illinois? That was I had no sleep that night. That was fucking cool. Like that's basically what I do every single night. So maybe I will
Starting point is 00:14:37 try the sleep podcast. And then the only other story we had that was to, you know, adjacent to sports, what is sports? Roger Goodell. Thank God. Who would have thought we would be in this spot where even the most adamant Roger Goodell haters have to say thank you Roger Goodell for holding the draft in spite of a global pandemic. Hank, you have you went to jail fighting against Roger Goodell and even you have to say thank you for giving us something in these next in this next month. Yes, but the way that he acts like he's above reproach and says that if anyone comments on it or comes at him, they're going to face harsh fines or penalties. How can you appreciate that? Because he's a wartime commissioner, dude. We're at war against an invisible enemy,
Starting point is 00:15:24 and you need to have a unified front. So you can't there's no time for dissent amongst the ranks in the NFL. Like Jerry Jones is already going insane right now. They're negotiating a long-term deal with Dak right after they franchise tagged him. Like these owners are going nuts. They need a strong leader to keep them on the path to the draft and we need to have some sense of normalcy. So give me the draft. Yes, I agree. I'm pro the draft. I'm just anti Goodell being like no one saying anything to me or else. That's fucked up. That's exactly what he should be doing because guess what? Then little piss ants like you start being like, Hey, Roger, we shouldn't be doing this little draft thing during a pandemic. We got to start you away and be like, Hey, you know what
Starting point is 00:16:02 the people need? They need something that's not crippling anxiety about. That's right. How is that going to look by the way? Like how is that going to work? It's going to look great. It's going to look wonderful on television. It's going to look like there's sports. It's going to look really cool. And as the son of United States Senator, if there's something that he hates, it's draft Dodgers like you Hank. Okay. So straighten up, fly right, respect the shield. Please. Thank you. Fall line, Hank. All right. Did you guys see the video of that old guy talking about Warren Sharp tweeted it? Yes. Yes. The football guy of the century. Yeah. And he was talking about how like the NFL shield, he basically like risk going to jail for the shield.
Starting point is 00:16:40 So in that regard, that inspired me to respect the shield. And he said, he said when he dies, he wants the NFL shield on his heart. Yeah. I mean, so after that, it's hard for me not to have a little bit more respect for the shield, not because of Goodell, but because of that guy. Thank you. Thank you. Do you really not want the draft to happen on schedule? No, I'm pro the draft. I want the draft. Like everything about that is good. I'm all for it. It's just the way that Goodell then had to be like, and if you have anything negative to say about it, like, don't bother. That was the best part of it when Goodell is like, if you're going to have anything, if you're going to say anything in the press that goes against what I want, I'm
Starting point is 00:17:21 going to find the shit out of you. That's vintage Goodell. That's great. That's great, Hank. Anything that's close to what normal life looks like, like Roger Goodell saying, you better not say one bad thing about me, that I'm all for all of that. We need an enemy. We need an enemy and normal life to return. Roger Goodell being a dictator is normal life. I need Goodell to like deliver pizzas to every single general manager in the NFL for draft night, and they're not allowed to take a slice until he has a bite of his. That's what I want. I want, yes, I want fewer Goodell back and in charge of everything. And by the way, I think every general manager in the league is freaking out right now because if we're being honest, it's a terrible
Starting point is 00:18:04 idea from a talent evaluation side of things to like have this draft when you can't go see him as impacting like pro days and shit. What's going to happen is it's going to give the teams that have that have their shit together such a huge leg up on every other team that might not have like invested their scouts, all that stuff. So you're telling me PFT that teams might screw up the draft. I'm telling you that there's gonna be true more screw up to the draft this year than usual. I mean, all these no team knows what they're doing. There's no no team has like great drafts year in and year out. John always going to try to draft Jake from twice. It's actually if anything, it's actually good because they all have an excuse for why they screwed up their draft,
Starting point is 00:18:48 which they were going to screw up anyway. So it is actually going to be very funny to watch all these football guys like a zoom meeting from across the country live during the draft. Like if you thought that the Minnesota Vikings couldn't turn in their draft cards on time before it was all done via go to meeting.com or whatever. Imagine Mike Zimmer trying to figure that out. Yeah, no, this is going to be the greatest excuse ever because guess what they always screwed up anyway. I mean, everyone screws up the draft all the time people. I mean, do you see that stat that was it's a little different because Cam Newton obviously is well he might be a starter, but it was seven quarterbacks taken in the first five picks from 2010 to 2015 and none have a
Starting point is 00:19:29 starting job right now. Yeah, but but the pandemic will probably screw up their evaluation. Yeah, that's the pandemic is going to be a very they're going to they're going to try to be resigning Drew Brees for the next like 15 years. This might be a time for my boy Sam Bradford to get back in the mix. What is it? Is he on a team right now? No. Yeah, no. But he was but he was the best quarterback in the NFL two years ago, completion percentage wise. It was three years ago, I think. But yes, yes. All right, let's do who's back before we get to Barbara Corcoran, then we're going to do a Mount Flushmore and Billy football on the other side of Babs. Hank, why don't you start? My who's back the week is the Ozarks. Yes. Yes, I don't watch the show yet. I'm going to start.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I think because everyone everyone says is a good show. But I see a lot of a lot of people talking about it. I also the same way where I couldn't like stop my brain from calling him exotic Joe, I can't stop calling it the Ozarks. Yes, it was very frustrated. It's a good show. The show is mostly comprised of just Jason Bateman leaving places and then his wife leaving a place and then them arriving at another place and them driving away from a place. It's mostly just like getting Yeah, getting into your car and then driving down the street is most of the show. And then when that's not happening, someone's getting killed. So it's a pretty good show. Yeah, it's it is one of those shows that it's entertaining. And I'm not going to give any spoilers, but it's
Starting point is 00:20:54 I don't I don't like I don't feel for any care like I'm not attached to any character. Like when you watch the sopranos, you get attached to characters when you watch the wire, you get attached to characters. I don't give a fuck about any of these people, but you watch it and it's like, there's drama. So it's good. I like the old man that lives with him. Yes. Yes. Okay, that's it. Also been watching hunters. If you if you're curious. Oh, is it good? Yeah, started that one's pretty good. Super intense. I gotta watch it. I gotta watch it. It's good. If you hate Nazis like us, we are the number one anti PFT called it like the Avengers, which has still has made no sense to me as I've been watching it. But I enjoyed that comparison. Well, to be fair to me, I haven't
Starting point is 00:21:35 seen the Avengers. But I was saying it's like the Avengers, but they fight Nazis from what I've cleaned online from memes about the Avengers. Yeah, basically the same show. It's like, it's it's like in glorious bastards, if they were all superheroes. But yeah, it's like in glorious bastards, if they were all bad, basically just in glorious bastards as a TV show. Oh, fuck. All right, PFT, what's yours? Okay, my who's back of the week is Britney Spears. She ran she set a world record in the 100 meter dash. She ran 100 meters in 5.97 seconds on a treadmill, which is four seconds faster than Usain Bolt, I think ever did it. So congratulations to our queen. We don't need the Olympics right now. Britney Spears has won them probably for the rest
Starting point is 00:22:25 of forever, because no one's gonna break that record. That's incredible. That's very, very fast. I mean, she's she's always been pretty athletic. And there are a lot of haters out there that are like, Well, no, that's can't be right, because she just posted a screenshot of the stopwatch app on her iPhone. It's like, Yeah, and it says 5.97 seconds on it. And then she put a picture of her running on the treadmill. So I don't know what the problem is here. Yeah, I fail to see the issue. So who wins a race you were or Britney Spears? I think I think she could beat me. Let's put it this way. The Raiders are probably going to draft her first overall this year. By the way, did you see I think it's I think Mel Kuiper said Jordan Love to the Raiders,
Starting point is 00:23:08 which would be awesome because Jordan Love is like the perfect huge hands, big arm guy, the Raiders like still still don't change much. Keep doing you Raiders love it. I don't get why I'm running to enough Cam Newton. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess, I guess because he can't do physical. Yeah, I might have some to do the fact that he's bad now. Have you seen his Instagram videos of his physical as fuck? Yeah, he is. He's so physical. I actually did I I don't know what time doesn't exist anymore. But I did read an article where it was like Cam Newton's shoulder is not the problem. It was actually his foot injury last year. I can't remember if I mentioned that on this show. It's probably a combination of the
Starting point is 00:23:46 two. No, it was actually like someone smarter than any of us did like the mapped out his throws. And it was all his throws to the right where his inaccurate throws and to the middle and to the left were accurate. So if his shoulder was hurt, he wouldn't be able to throw to the left. You know, accurately, it was basically his plant foot and the right throws that were screwing him up, which was the Liz Frank injury. Okay, so I'm in. So I'm doing the problem was the foot if you're John Grun. I think John Grun is actually just gun shy about hiring any single NFL player that has an Instagram account after what happened last year with Antonio Brown. True. If he hears the term social media around a player that he's evaluating, he's like, I'm out
Starting point is 00:24:30 that social media. It's it's the devil's work. I've been recorded against my will once I can't have this again, which was the coolest hype video of all time. But I'm wonderful. All right. My who's back is my health. I'm getting back boys. I'm all the way back. I'm start I'm done feeling bad for myself. I got I got I got the best I told you guys I look kind of like a cop in the vest or like a brings truck driver. Do you have a what you're right there? I have the best. Okay, so yeah, I was saying it looks like a bulletproof vest last week. Yeah. This is it. Okay, that's pretty sweet. How many pounds you got in that sucker right now? 60 right now. But I can actually get up and get up to 100.
Starting point is 00:25:14 So why don't you have the hundred pounds? I'm working my way up there. All right. So I got the best. I got the tactical glasses for my eyesight. And then my got my altitude training mask in yesterday. It limits the oxygen you can get in it. It basically just limits all the oxygen to your brain. So you kind of suffocate yourself, but you also feel like you're training at a really high altitude. So you're getting high. Right. I like 18,000 feet right now. I'm at 18,000 feet into thin air. Big cat addition. I like it. That's cool. I just ordered a sun lamp today off Amazon. Because I'm sick of being inside all the time. I feel like that's probably going to help a lot with with the depression that we're all going through, right? Just like being able to
Starting point is 00:26:02 do some sun fun story about sun lamps when I'm I have the worst luck professional luck pretty much of anyone in history because I got into the casino business January of 2020. And then this happened. But my other bad luck was I got into the real estate business August of 2007. And then the world came down. But when everything was going bad and I was working in real estate, my boss got a sun lamp and he was like, he was like, no, I'm fine. And he would just sit in front of the sun lamp. I was like, I feel like you're not that fine. So it seems like history is repeating itself. So that's exactly what I did today. I got a sun lamp in his office and he just had this huge lamp in his face. I'm like, are you okay? Like, yeah, I'm fine. I'm just,
Starting point is 00:26:46 you know, just trying to get a little extra. I'm grasping at straws here. Okay, I'm grasping at straws. I'm just, I thought that the sun lamp was going to be the cure to all my problems like no sports. That's fine. Just go stand in front of the sun lamp for 60 minutes and don't say a word. Yeah. So yeah, so history repeats itself. We're back here. This vest is really fucking heavy. I'm going to do my ad in the vest though. I can already feel my heart rate goes up so fast when I put this vest on. It's fucking awesome. And I got my Fitbit too. I forgot I'm back in the Fitbit game. So it's like, I'm all these things. I'm just adding up. I'm going to end up being Superman. And look at this. Ready? Check this bad boy out. See this?
Starting point is 00:27:25 That's a terrible job. What is that? It's bad. What is that? It's a head massager. Okay, yeah, you told us about the head massager. That looks like you can't like to get your brain going. Yeah, you know, gonna kill me. Here's what we should get. We should get the electronic shock thing that Trevor Bauer uses to learn stuff fast. I'm down. I'm down. I mean, this one, that one, I should have, it's like, you know, the old saying like never buy a cheap suit because it's just you buy a cheap suit and it's cheap suit. It's gonna get a fall apart. Never buy like a cheap electronic thing that you have to attach to your brain because you'll probably die. I think that's the saying.
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Starting point is 00:30:51 Three, two, one. Girl or a boy. I'm a boy. I'm gonna keep that in. Oh no. You want to see? I told you she's spicy. No, I don't want to see. I told you she's spicy. This Barbara Corcoran. You know her. She's a founder of the Corcoran group and she is an investor on Shark Tank. She's also a podcaster. Business Unusual is one of her podcasts. 888 Barbara is her other. So you have gotten into podcasting. You just dissed PFT, which was... I just asked a question. This is the yard of the deal. You neg somebody right off the bat. Yeah. Now you feel like you have control over the situation. No, not at all. Is that what it is? What are you, a shrink or something? Oh, we'll get to it. Yeah. No, I spent a lot of money on shrinks. They didn't help.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Yes. All right. So you, so your podcast, tell us what made you, everyone's got a podcast now. Why are you trying to encroach? We're not going and selling houses. We're not going and doing real estate deals. Why are you doing this to us? Because I'm better at it than you are. And that's the truth. Okay. Yeah. You know, everybody's got this sweet spot. You know, we're good at certain things. We're better at certain things. My sweet spot is I give great advice. I always have. And I think the reason for that is I've walked in a lot of shoes, so you could pay your local shrink for advice. It's all theoretical. I've walked it, eaten it, done it, gotten over it. And I give great advice. I just give damn good advice. I
Starting point is 00:32:13 know that. What's harder to do, make a million dollar real estate deal or record one podcast? Oh my God. A million dollar deal is so much harder. You have to put in a long-term effort. Yeah. You have to get a whole team of people cooperating. When you have a podcast, you're talking to one person. You say whatever you want. It's easy. Okay. So I got this question. So the putting in doing like a million dollar deal, when you have it all set up and it falls through at the end, are you able to get over it quickly? Is that part of why you've been successful or do those kind of things linger on you? Honestly, it's not just me. I've managed sales people my whole life. I've had a thousand sales people. I could tell you the top 10
Starting point is 00:32:52 outsold and out earned, 10 to one, what everybody else was doing. And when I really analyzed over the years what the secret ingredient is, it wasn't their connections. It wasn't their personality. It wasn't anything. It was exactly what you just said. How long they take to feel sorry for themselves. We all do. I mean, we're not, we have blood navines, but it's how long it takes them to say, oh poor me and get right back up. It's like my best people, including myself, had average IQs, or maybe even on the stupid side, because you're too stupid to lay low and get smashed. And that takes a certain personality type. And that is what gets everybody over all failure, not just real estate deals. That's the magic, that's the magic of people who
Starting point is 00:33:30 succeed. I really believe that. That actually is very, that works for what our favorite sport football. We talk about it all the time, that you want to have that perfect amount of intelligence where you're just dumb enough to think when you throw a bad interception that you can get back out there and it'll be completely different. Really? Wow. And to have a bad play and be like, you know what, I can just forget about this and not overanalyze it. Sometimes there's quarterbacks or players that are too smart for their own good, where they actually think overthink it and it's paralysis by analysis. Of course. Yeah, it's frozen. So I'd be a good football player. Yeah, you would. You do everything. I think you're not lacking in confidence. Has
Starting point is 00:34:06 anyone said you're lacking in confidence? No, but I think I'm not, I don't think I'm going to be a good football player, honestly. Okay. I've always thought that. So I had a background in sales. I sold pretty much anything under the map. You name it, I slanged it. I was the best salesperson. I could be right after I sold something else. Why was that? Because you were bouncing off a high and you thought, I'm a mighty man pounding your check. I can do anything. Yeah. Yeah, you feel really good. Did that work? Yeah. Worked really well. Before two deals, maybe. No, no. I sold, I sold cats. I sold used dogs. I sold Christmas trees. I sold portable air conditioners, software, used cars. And you know, I could put any of those things from you. Yeah, not a single one. And let
Starting point is 00:34:41 me ask you, if you were such a good salesman, let me challenge that. Okay. If you're such a good salesman, why don't you hop from product to product to product? Good salespeople don't do that. Oh, because there's a cap on my commissions when I was selling cats. So then it moved up to dogs. And then Christmas, the higher the ticket item, the more money you get paid. Also, I found that the higher the ticket item, the higher the dollar sign on whatever it is you're selling. A lot of times, it's easier to sell the expensive thing than it is to sell the cheap thing. And why is that? Because the customers that try to buy a cheap thing, they're focused on the price and they'll just walk away at any given second. Customers that want to buy an expensive thing, they're focused
Starting point is 00:35:14 on the other stuff that you can highlight for them. You got to tell me something I'm curious about. You're telling me that you went and sold high price shit to people with that haircut? No. No, you look different back there. That's a good point. Because I wouldn't buy anything. Right now, my only customer would be Kid Rock. If he needed like a legacy software upgrade, then I could hook him up. Oh yeah, of course you could. Does it work when you do like the, when you're trying to sell something, you're like, this is a million and $1 or this is $999,999 because it works on me? Well, not necessarily in real estate, but when you're selling product, it works. This is Magic Points, $49.99 is a perfect price. Yeah, all right. But if you're going to sell real estate,
Starting point is 00:35:53 $9.80 versus $8.80, no. When you go over a million dollars, it's in a different category. People search differently online, so that's a problem. So I guess there's brackets and everything. Do you think that it would be easier to sell an apartment for a million and five dollars as opposed to selling one for $990,005? I will tell you one thing, I negotiated many deals in my life and I would be advising the buyer and I never let them go in with a 990 offer. I always said, put it in at $990,045 or some shit like that. Why? Because what do you think the seller would say? Why that price? Because they've given it so much careful thought. They've really arrived at exactly the value. They want to really come in the sweet spot. This is what they have to offer
Starting point is 00:36:32 and they mean it. That's taken seriously. Well $45, but it made them credible, made it seem thoughtful that offer. So you're not far off in what you're asking. You have to really be creative in what you offer. I would assume that at some point, well, I'll give you an example. So I worked in a bar at one point and in this bar they had a margarita. They had probably five different types of margaritas that range from $7 to $15 and then they had one that was $100. Wow. Don't tell me they sold a lot of those suckers. Well, I was talking to the owner and he was telling me what went in it. It was all the most expensive ingredients, the most expensive tequila they could buy and in reality, if they had the same margin on that cocktail as they did on the $15 one, they should
Starting point is 00:37:13 only been charging about $70 as the market went on it. But they would sell more of them if they charged $100 than if they did at $70 because people were like, fuck yeah, $100 margarita, let's go. Bragging rights for the guy who paid the bill. Exactly. But there's an element of if you pay more money for something, you feel better about your purchase sometimes. Oh, absolutely. If you could afford it. Luxury items. Or you feel bad the next day when you charge it and you can't afford it and go, what the fuck was I thinking? No, you call the credit card company, you're like, my card was stolen and you're fine. Did you ever do that really? Yeah, you can do that easily. I know that. Dispute the charge. Yeah, absolutely. When is the next real estate
Starting point is 00:37:50 recession going to happen? I'd like to get ahead of that one. You know, there's already real estate recession in New York. It's called the billionaire recession. Anything that's multi-million dollars right now is sitting still. Prices are being negotiated a lot more than the developers will let you know because everybody's afraid of the market right now. But the interesting thing is always somebody is willing to buy and the part of the real estate market here in New York City clearly right now is under $3 million. And the more under three, it is. It's a middle class market. You know, if you're middle class in Manhattan, you buy between $9.50 million and $3 million. And that market is hopping, being overbid,
Starting point is 00:38:25 it's steaming up. That's middle class in New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that gets you one bedroom, by the way. No, sometimes a two-bedroom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can basically sleep with your head next to your oven. Yeah, but you know, real estate recessions and nobody sees them coming. I was wrong in the last one. I said, everything's great. I lost my shirt. I was wrong by a mile. I was wrong by a mile. Of course I was. Yeah. But you know what? Nobody knows a recession, so you're looking back and thinking, oh my God, look at that. Nobody knows an uptick either. Oh, I should have bought. I should have bought. They didn't know when it was upticking. Except Christian Bale in Big Short. Yes. Well, he's a genius. Not everybody's a genius.
Starting point is 00:39:01 So when that happened though, did you have any, you had no inkling? That kind of surprised you as well, 2008? You know, it surprised me, honestly. I'm embarrassed in me because I'm an optimist. I always thought the future was bright. Oh, just this, just this. So did I give the best advice to people? No. Did I hold on to real estate because real estate holdings I had? Yes, I did because I thought, oh, thank God, you know, it's only going to be worth more tomorrow. Did I lose the money? No, because I held on for another five years and now it's worth much, much more. Right. So no, I was pretty stupid about that because love is blind. I'm in love with real estate. I trust it more than anything else in the world if you could hold on to it long term. That's the way it
Starting point is 00:39:37 is. You hold on to it long term, you come out a winner. If you're forced to sell at different points in the market, you can really lose a lot. Why is it called real estate? It's real. It's real. What would you trust when you could put your hands on it, you could step on it, you could live on it, you could sleep on it, it's real. Bitcoin. Bitcoin. Fake. No, you're not a Bitcoin. Are you not? No, I don't trust you. You don't mind? What? They mind for Bitcoin. You don't do that? No, I do not. You're too scary to me. Don't trust it. Like if you're trying to sell a condor, just call it the blockchain condo and whenever you add the word blockchain on something, boom, that's an extra million dollars. Easy. You know what? I would not work for you if you're going to
Starting point is 00:40:13 start a real estate company. I feel like we've uncovered a lot of different ways that you and I would not work together so far in this interview. I'm going to find one eventually where we're going to find Common Ground. I'm dying to see your eyes. That's why I'm staring at this guy because I'm trying to see this guy's eyes. Well, you also, we have a history and if we know what happens when you stare at me, you fall in love. You are a good looking guy, no doubt. Barbara, you're too much. You did this last time. I know, but it's true. You haven't gotten nothing. Please, please. What is your best investment in Shark Tank? The one that you look back and you're like, that was the one? I would have to say money-wise, the one that I made the most money. Give me money
Starting point is 00:40:47 and also give me the one that was most familiar. The one I made the most money on already in just a few short years, millions of dollars is Comfy. It's a sweatshirt that everybody should have. It's an oversized hoodie sweatshirt named Comfy and it sells for $39.95. I thought maybe they'd sell 100 of them. Honest to God, when these two clowns came on the site and said, I got this idea. I don't know how I'll make it. I don't know what it will cost. I don't know what we'll buy, but it's an idea. So I took just a 30% of their interest just because I like the guys. They've sold over $70 million. I'm looking at it right now. I have one of those. It's great. You have one? Thank you for my, let's see what's my margin on that for my 30% about four bucks.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Thank you for my four dollars. This might be a stupid question, but I'm looking at it right now what stops people from, can you patent a sweatshirt? It is patent. The design is patented, but your real question, I think you're going to ask is what's going to stop people from knocking off. Everybody's knocked it off. They're a thousand imitators, but this is the original Comfy. And despite all that, they're making a ton of money. Okay, big sweat. It does look very comfy and that's a great name for it. You put that in your, in your equation when you see a product and you're like, okay, that product works, but people are just going to rip it off. No, I didn't even think of that. You know, some of my mind when those two brothers came in pitch,
Starting point is 00:42:02 I thought, well, these guys drink way too much. Are they even making sense? I don't get this product and who the hell would buy it? But they looked like they'd be fun to have a beer with. I said, what the hell for a hundred thousand dollars, I'll take 30% and do what was done. You could do like Comfy 2.0 and it sounds like there's some part, there's some party guys. And so you, you sew in little pockets on the inside to put flasks. Can I steal that idea? Yeah, there's an entire marketplace out there for kids that are trying to sneak flasks and beers into crowded events. Wow. Beer pants. You can, I invented beer pants in college. Can you get away with that going through the radar? Really? No, no, because it's
Starting point is 00:42:37 that guy that just goes tap, tap and then he just lets you in. So if it's a metal detector, flask can be a tricky one. But I did invent beer pants in college, which is maybe something that we can connect on. Good for you. You sew little pockets into just the cuff of the pants. You just put like a bottle. Oh my God. Are you making this up? You can see the beer. No, no, not at the bottom of the pants. Oh, because you worked huge. But he walked like a duck. Yeah, jinkos. You have to wear jinkos to make it work. Wow. But I think. You gotta look ridiculous, but it works. I like the Comfy. That's the story of my life really. The Comfy also could do a, you get like a chilled hood because you know when you're like really hung over and you want to put your face like on the,
Starting point is 00:43:12 on the tile in your bathroom, that's what you need. Wow. A line extension. Yes, a chill. You have a little insert and freeze it. I'm gonna steal that idea. Like you said, I never, I didn't watch that particular Shark Tank, but the guys drink a lot and they made what looks like a hung over sweatshirt. And they sang a song. Yeah, that is the, they basically sit around dying on their couch on the weekend. They're like, you know what we really need is something to die inside of. Oh my God. I like that. That's a good bet. I'm gonna steal both ideas and give you no credit. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. That's totally fine. Have you ever invested in something just so that someone else that you didn't like couldn't invest in it? On the show? Mm-hmm. All the time. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I did that for three years. It's like, I'll be damned if Mark's going to take this from me. And then I compete with that billionaire. What an ass I was. Yeah. I didn't do that for long. He could outspend any of us under the table three times over. What about, what about the reverse when like, because, because Kevin O'Leary doesn't really get into a lot of deals when he does get interested? Well, first of all, when he gets interested, it's always bullshit because he's like, I'm going to license it and I'll pay you this and then I'll just make all the money. Do you get interested when someone who passes on so many deals is now all of a sudden like, ooh, I see something here? Well, you know, I've taken out a couple of Kevin's deals simply because
Starting point is 00:44:24 I thought he was taking huge advantage of a nice entrepreneur. I had no interest in the deal, but it was like watching him slaughter somebody. Right. But I only did that for two years and then lost a few hundred thousand dollars and I'll shut my mouth in the future. Interesting. Interesting. What is the one product that you've invested in that you wish you could take back? Oh, there's a lot of them. Okay. The lipstick that makes you lose weight. Wait, that's true. Sounds like a great idea, but guess what? It doesn't make you lose weight. Even though it burns the crap out of your lips, so you don't want to eat a hot dog next time, but it's terrible. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. That sounds like a high idea that
Starting point is 00:44:56 we create. Or the, or the dentist, if you use this toothpaste, it's going to put you to sleep at night. I tried it. I was having a hard time sleeping. I never went to sleep after I used this toothpaste. Oh, melatonin. After I invested like, no, not melatonin. Melatonin toothpaste. Oh, that, wait, maybe that's, yeah, there was no melatonin. So what was it that knocked you out? Hank has this, Hank has Listerquil, Nyquil and Listerine combined. He literally has that. That's his idea. This is great. I'm going to try both of these formulations. Maybe my money's not lost yet. Yeah. Listerquil has been a long time idea. Holy shit, Hank. That was just proven that you're right. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what to take seriously. No, he Listerquil
Starting point is 00:45:32 is a long time idea of Hank's. It's in beta. It sounds like you invested in Listerquil, but it wasn't always thought out. It was a wrong formulation. Yeah. It didn't put you to sleep and it tasted like crap. The only sad part is that it was after her saying her least favorite investment. Well, that's my favorite investment. Your formula was your formula work. She likes the idea. Barbara loves it. She's in love with the idea. It's the people behind it. Who would think I'd come here today and make money? Yeah, I never saw that coming. Correct. Has there ever been a product that you thought was a no-brainer and still think to this day is a no-brainer, but the people that were leading it were just all wrong for it and didn't work out? Lots of products. I won't name the
Starting point is 00:46:10 products because they would put everybody into a hole of shame, but so many products. The guy who invented a bicycle, that was the most stunning bicycle I've ever seen in my life, had to have it. I should have just ordered a bicycle. Instead, Mark and I each invested $500,000 into the Listerquil of our money. What was wrong with the bicycle? The guy was an artist. He had to have the exact this great little that he had 50,000 skews on the cap on the tire. A guy like that never makes money. He's an artist. I've learned those lessons. Mark hasn't. He's still invested to artists, interesting enough, but I look and I go too bad on him. What about the reverse? What about someone that you invested in and their idea ended up sucking, but you were like, this person
Starting point is 00:46:51 is so good, I want to keep them around for something else going forward? You got cousins made lobster. Their idea was they just want to sell lobster rolls off one truck. They were happy. It was a side business, a side kick, but when I heard how much money they were making, I knew it was a franchise empire. Today they have 70 trucks, 16, 17 restaurants, I think now. They're making a ton of money. I invested in those guys. They were so smart, I knew they could figure anything out. They're just so sharp and lovely people. I knew there were going to be winners. How often does it happen when you're out? Let's just say you're buying a product or you're at a store, you're out of shopping mall, you buy something and you're like, you know what? I like
Starting point is 00:47:28 this so much, I'd like to own the entire company. Guess what? Never happens. Give it to me. Really? I buy a product, I say, thank God I didn't have to invest in this. I just pay my $4.99 and get a pack of gum or something. Really? Yeah, no. I'm never jealous of that. I'm thinking of the things I see on the shelves that are all over the shelves that I know are going to be returned to the manufacturer that week and I'm going to have to give the money back. That's the stuff. I don't go shopping hardly because I don't want to see. The worst part, I'll go to a store and I'll see Lori's great product. She's the best merchant on the show. I'll see her stupid little nickel dime shit that she's made millions of dollars on and hate her while I'm shopping for my food. It's
Starting point is 00:48:04 just terrible. No, no. I try to keep out of the stores. I've given up on stores now. I don't like them at all. How much of Lori's products though? I've watched QVC late at night. There's something about watching it like past midnight where you're like, I got to have that knife that cuts through a shoe or I got to have that. The extendable ladder that goes up three stories even though I live in a one bedroom apartment. I got to have that thing. How much of that plays into it? That's part of it, but honestly, she's got a great nose for picking products. I can't even remember the name. I exit out of my head. When that guy came peddling a sponge with a smiley face, I thought to myself, what a stupid ass product. Lori made like $7 million within three months
Starting point is 00:48:47 why the hell would buy people want a sponge? What's the name of it? I think it's the most successful product though. Well, don't even mention that. I thought it was the most stupid thing. Oh, that's the barber you should have. Then the lady with the curlers. This Indian woman walks in gorgeous hair with curlers in and I think, oh, what a who even uses curlers anymore. Did that make money? Yeah, like $30 million on that one. I'm with you though. I wouldn't want to invest in that rinky dink shit. I don't like the idea. I don't like the idea of buying a lot of cheap stuff. I want to sell one big thing. I want to sell like I want to get in the business of selling football stadiums. You sell one of those. You're
Starting point is 00:49:24 set for life. Well, you let me know when the football stadium comes on Shark Tank. We haven't seen deals like that. Well, there could be one in New York. How much do you think like for as far as the real estate market goes, the jets worth thinking about building a stadium in Manhattan, like 10 years ago, I think out by Chelsea peers and that too bad that didn't come to pass. We need it. Yeah, that would be great for traffic, right? How much money do you think it would cost to buy enough real estate in like the west side of Manhattan to build a football stadium? God, just a land alone. I don't know how what the footprint is. I would say tens of billions of dollars just for the land and you couldn't do it anyway. Where are you going to get raw land? The
Starting point is 00:50:03 only thing you could do is fill in the Hudson River or the East River and extend the land front. Well, people have done it. Oh, yeah, the stadium island. What happened to Randall's Island? That would have been perfect. I've got another idea. What's the one thing that we're missing in New York that all these other places, all these other great cities in the world have that we don't? Manners. And besides, yeah, that and a beach. Oh, we don't have a beach in Manhattan. What if you just how much would it cost to get a shitload of sand and just dump it on the South Shore of Manhattan and just have that beach party? You know, the Hudson River is pretty clean. Your idea sounds wacky because you're it's coming from a wacky guy,
Starting point is 00:50:42 but I'll tell you, it's not a bad idea. Every other city in the world, it's the water. Idiot, before you tell me I'm smart. You can just say that's a smart idea, PFT. Okay, it's a smart idea. You don't want me to comment. Just say, Hey, it's a smart idea, but it's a smart idea. Honestly, people would welcome it. What my point was going to be, and then you interrupted me, keep talking till you interrupt me again. Every other great city you go to, and when you're on the water, you're aware of the water. This is the only city you're not even aware of the water when you're on the when you're on the island. It would be phenomenal on the Hudson River to have a lengthy, beautiful beach because the water is even clean enough to swim in now. It is. Of course it is.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I don't think so. I don't have to check that. You are a bundle of ideas. This is actually Hank's idea. Yeah, okay. He's stealing your idea, Hank. Topgolf, right? We built a topgolf, but this is my spin on it. You put all the balls that you hit into the water, you hit them directly into the East River, and they disintegrate over time. And on the inside of the balls, it's algae. So it makes the river nicer as time goes on. So you're making green, and you're keeping the environment green. Yo, I'm out on that one. That one will never go over. People won't like the trash in the water. Bad idea. No, it's helping the water. It is. Oh, what about topgolf? You're saving the planet. What about topgolf and the golf balls are ice cubes, and we lower the temperature
Starting point is 00:52:03 of the ocean? Oh, that's practical. I love that idea. I'll put millions on that one. That actually would work. This is starting to sound like some of the wacky pitches we heard on Shark Tank. I do have a serious question about real estate in Manhattan because in my neighborhood, I'm walking down the street in the West Village, and I see all around me probably three quarters of the storefronts are absolutely empty, right? They've been empty for the last like two years, year and a half. How are the people that own, how are people making money if they own that building where they're not getting any money coming in from the storefront? They're not making money, but you have to look at a different way. There's a great opportunity to buy those buildings cheap.
Starting point is 00:52:44 People only hold out losing money for so long, and a lot of these smaller properties are owned by small landlords, okay? I have the same problem. Two buildings I own in the East Village right off Fifth Avenue. I lost my ground tenant. They had two floors. Suddenly, I'm losing money on those buildings, each of them. What am I going to do? I'm going to turn them into apartments. Sometimes you could do that and make the money and save your ass, but most times you can't. That's a great opportunity to solicit those people and get a great deal on real estate because whenever there's trouble, it's always the best time to make a killing. But when there's trouble, people focus on the trouble, but there's always that flip side, the underbelly of it. So you could become
Starting point is 00:53:19 a giant land owner if you would just approach all those owners. And you know what? I didn't even think of it myself. I'm going to do it the minute we leave here, and I'm going to beat you to the punch because I have the wherewithal to get out there faster. But that's a great, another money making idea today. That was a nice way of just like dressing up the old saying, when there's blood in the streets by land. Yeah. That was a nice way of doing that. Yeah. Yeah. What if you're a funny guy? Thank you. You know, he's like a girl. A girl. A girl. You think so quick. How do you come up with all this stuff? I got breasts, but they're actually muscle. I'm not a girl. I had one last question, a real question. Seeky question promo code take. Put it in. You get $10 off. Work life
Starting point is 00:53:58 balance. When you invest in people, do you expect them to like, what's the balance that you expect them to have where they're just trying to kill themselves for their job? Or do you ever step in and be like, Hey, you need to take a vacation or you need to chill out. Here's the funny thing about people. The more you say to the people that work on your team, don't work hard. Take a week off. There's no vacation schedule here. Go home. It's noon. It's a rainy day. Go enjoy yourself. Take a personal day. The more you do that, the harder people work. I mean, I do that because I really want people to have a great life. But the fact of the matter is, do I really get something from it? Yeah, I get a real dedicated people that work from their own volition. And what you get is a
Starting point is 00:54:36 team that can't be beat. It's the stupidest thing in the world to have a vacation schedule in any business in my book or to have hours. Let people make their own hours and their strength comes to the front. You, I have phenomenal people because I do exactly that. I really want them to have a great life. And you know what? They take care of you. What comes around goes around. You love them. They love you back. That's how it goes. Do you think people ever take advantage of the fact that not a one. I mean, if I hired a clunker and I've hired a few clunkers in my day, but I get rid of them fast. I love Fridays to get rid of a clunker. Good. Could you see me at 11 o'clock on Friday? You're out. Okay. But take the clunkers out of the equation, which is a rare exception
Starting point is 00:55:13 really, because I'm careful letting people in. But I'm telling you, no one takes advantage. People give you extra in every way they can from their heart and their soul to their hours, to their intelligence, brought to the fore. And you know what happens? They grow. They grow because they're giving 150% all the time. You can't help it to grow if you push yourself out. Push yourself out. You get bigger and bigger and better. And that's the way life is. There are a couple people around here that take advantage of a vacation policy. It'll send it to me on Friday. Sometimes. You have a vacation policy. It's a problem. We don't know the thing is we actually don't have a vacation policy and some people in this room. But I'd like to use their vacation
Starting point is 00:55:50 time. It's him. That guy over there. I get shamed. I take one day off one time and I get shamed. I feel so bad when you just said where it's like, give people love, nurture them, tell them, take as many days off as you want. It is the exact opposite culture here and it just hurts. It's very hurtful. You know what? You look like you could take it though. You look like the kind of guy who's bitching about it, but you kind of enjoy it. That's my route on you. No. I like, I love vacations. Yeah, we do vacations. I work hard so I can take days off and whenever I take them I get shamed. Yeah, I'm taking you on my next vacation. You'd be a blast because you just yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, and I wouldn't have to say anything.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Yeah. And you just take it in the end of the night, you just down your listric wall and then boom, sleep like a baby. Yeah. There it is. I can't wait. I've got one other real estate. You're going to promote my podcast before you finish it. Yes, it is Business Unusual 888 Barbara. Got a question. Go download it now. Got a question you can call 888 Barbara. I'm just going to call in. Yeah, you're calling. What do you think the name is 888 Barbara from? 800 Barbara was taken by a porn star. I would have taken that one. That's a true story. Yeah. I don't know what her name is, but it was 800 Barbara. Try it. Can I call it right now? You could do it. Yeah. And if for some reason she's not doing it anymore, let me know. I'll grab that
Starting point is 00:57:02 number too. Okay. Let's call her in a second. Check out that. Oh my God. You know what, that's fun. I'm enjoying pitching you so much. I'm probably just going to call into your podcast all the time with these stupid ideas. But my final one, what if I were to tell you that there's a business out there, the model has been proven. It can be a $5 billion business. Yeah. It's been proven already, but it's never been executed. What would you say to that? I would say who's running it. Let me have it. Not me. I know you're going to say no if it's me. I don't know. I'd have to meet who's running. Give me five minutes with the person running. I'll tell you if it's going to work. So it's Jurassic Park. The model has been proven. The science exists
Starting point is 00:57:39 to make dinosaurs. We buy Staten Island and we just fill it with wrappers. No, that's, we got the stadium. That's a different island. There are two island ideas. Yeah. Two separate but equal. Maybe combine them. Maybe, yeah. There we go. Now you're talking about a stadium with dinosaurs in it. Do you drop the kids off at Dinosaur Island and then you go to the game, have a couple cold ones, pick a couple of kids. MetLife has cats. We have like velociraptors. Yeah. Yeah. You want me to comment even on that? If the technology existed for Jurassic Park. If it did, you're saying, or you're saying it does. It does. It does. But I'm just saying, if you were confident in the technology behind it, would you or would you not invest in a Jurassic
Starting point is 00:58:18 Park? No, not if it was owned by you. Again, not owned by me. Let's picture for a minute, you don't own it, but some fabulous guy who's really smart, who knows business and is a hustler, good-looking, charming, could raise additional funds because it always comes in. You're just talking about me. I get it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's exciting because it's new, but do I believe you could really bring dinosaurs back? I don't think I could write the checks. Sorry about that. Even if I had a great entrepreneur. What about cloning humans? Would you do that? Oh, yeah. I'd clone myself. My next five husbands and they'd all be under 30. They'd be rock solid. And I'd own them. What's wrong with that? You would clone yourself and then hire yourself to work
Starting point is 00:58:54 for you. So you have more use. But I wish I could do that. Vacation. That would actually be a good way for your vacation. That's actually a funny movie, actually. Good idea for a movie. Well, I think that's the multiple rod show now. Oh, it's already taken out too bad. That's okay. We can just steal it. That's the first rule of business, just steal someone else's idea. That's it. Is that right? What do you got, Hank? Your last thing? Oh, you did a little pump fake. Yeah. What do you want to say? I was going to say, you remake it, not steal it. It's a remake. An attorney in the room. Yes. All right, Barbara Corcoran, check it out. Unusual business. No, business unusual. Get it right. 888
Starting point is 00:59:32 Barbara is the new podcast. Call in with questions. If you want to get yourself ahead and the shit's in your way and you don't know how to get past your own self, give me a question. I'll show you the way out. Okay. Perfect. Give her a call. Perfect. Thanks so much. Who are you going to call? Barbara. 1-800-Barbara. No, no, no, no, no. 888-Barbara. I'm going to call both. Okay. That interview with Barbara Corcoran was proxied by Simply Safe with all this uncertainty in the world. Feeling safe at home has never been more important. So I want to talk to you guys about Simply Safe Home Security. They're longtime friends a part of my take. They've been advertising with us for I think like three years and for good reason. Simply Safe has made it easy to finally get
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Starting point is 01:01:03 that you know, make sure they know that you heard this on our show. So Simply Safe and all of us here are wishing you guys safety and good health. Go to SimplySafe.com slash PMT. Okay, let's get some segments real quick. And then we will do our Monday deep dive with Billy Football. PFT, you have a high idea. But you're not a drug guy. Not a drug guy. Not a drug guy at all. But I did. I enjoyed, as I said last week, a local small business reached out and they said, hey, we're taking extra precautions. Make sure that you guys are safe for small businesses. I wanted to help them out. So yeah, I dabbled last night. And I came up with a billion-dollar idea, maybe quadrillion or trillion-dollar idea. It's water for dogs, okay? Humans are freaks about
Starting point is 01:01:50 their dogs. They want to make sure that they're getting the best food, like whether that's grain free, they want to treat their dogs to all the best nutrition-wise stuff they possibly can. But our dogs are drinking the exact same thing every single day. They got to be bored of water, right? So why not a little flavored water for your dog? So you can either go with the savory option and have it be like a bacon flavored water or a bone broth water. I don't know what bone broth is, but when you say it sounds healthy as fuck. So bone broth water, and you say that it's got glucosamine in it, all these specific nutrients that your dog needs, plus it tastes better, and your dog will love it. Your dog's going to drink the shit out of it. And or you can even go
Starting point is 01:02:31 something more refreshing. You can say mint water, cucumber flavored water. And people will buy the hell out of this stuff because they want their dogs to have the best. And they are probably thinking to themselves, yeah, I've been a bad pet owner. I've been feeding my dog plain water like a chump for the last 20 years. So I feel like this is like a no doubt smash hit for us. I mean, I don't really see a hole in it. I'm googling to see if it exists. And I don't know if it does. So I think we're good. You can even call it like paleo water. You can be like it's good. It's taking your dog back to the days. Nothing but just just blood when they were wolves. All you have to do is say it's tests have been proven to show that the the PMT dog water
Starting point is 01:03:17 has dogs living up to 12 to 18 months longer than the average dog. And then in fine prints, tests have not been conclusive by science. But this is just how we feel. But also big cat, it's not just the amount of years. It's the quality of years. Do you want your dog to be out there drinking normal water like like some sort of pussy? No, you want your dog to be drinking like masculine strong water. That's putting it more in touch with its ancestors. Here's a fun fact about dogs. Dogs have only been domesticated for, I don't know, like a thousand years 1500 years. And what do you think dogs were drinking before that? They sure weren't filtered Brita water. They were drinking the blood of their kills. They're drinking whatever
Starting point is 01:03:57 they could find out in nature. So we've coddled their stomachs really aren't equipped to handle tap water and Evian or Perrier or whatever. Everyone out there is feeding their dogs out of like a bottle. They want to be just sipping that raw stuff. You know, yeah, I don't see I feel like we should put it put it to market like right now. People got expensive. Once the Trump bucks come in. Spend your 1200 bucks on dog water. Oh, what if we made an extra special deal too? We're like we make people think that we're putting on discount. We'll give you a 12 pack of our dog water. If you use your regular dollars, it's going to be $45. If you use your Trump bucks, it's 30. Boom. How about this? If you spend all 1200 of your Trump bucks on dog water, we're just we're
Starting point is 01:04:46 going to give you $1500 worth of dog water. So you get the extra $300 on the house. No, actually, okay, here's what really should do PFT. Okay, we should create some kind of patent patented nozzle that you can put on your sink. Your sink, your so you hook it up and then it's dog water for life. And we charge people like $7000. But it really does nothing. Okay, it just goes through a contraption. Right. But we're like, Hey, this is the special dog water contraption. So we're like, we will give you unlimited dog water for $7000. It pays for itself after like 15 years. Correct. Correct. Or if we can figure out a way to develop the technology to inject dog whistles into water, so that when dogs hear the
Starting point is 01:05:41 water sound, they come running to it like a dog whistle. Wait, when the, when the bottle opens? No, when the faucet, no, no, no, when the faucet runs, it also whistles. Yes. Yes. Or the odors will be like, Holy shit, my dog is like fucking coming running for this. Yes, because the people can't hear it. And then they're like, Oh my God, this dog, they love water now. They really need this water. Oh my God. Now, that, that actually is an idea that I think we could scam millions of people out of their money. Absolutely. Dog water. We should have pitched it to her. Now, granted, we had her on, it was probably more like three or four months ago. Well, but this is no doubter in my brain. Like this is our, this is our meal ticket out of this sports list hell that we're
Starting point is 01:06:29 living in right now. Well, and here's the thing with the nozzle, you can, like I said, you can, you can patent it. So like if we just created dog water, anyone else could rip that off. Like there's the Sonny, there's Fiji, there's all these other water. If we actually make an instrument that you can put on your faucet, no one can rip that off. If we get the correct patents, I'm sure we know there's got to be like a patent dude who listens to this show. We have one that works for us. Done. We've done, we've done studies already and dogs, given the choice of having dog water or nothing at all live 15 years longer if they drink dog water. If you don't buy, if you don't buy our faucet add on your dog will die. And if you do buy it,
Starting point is 01:07:19 maybe they won't. We don't know. We actually haven't done enough studies to know if they, if it's actually took everlasting to live forever. Sidebar here. What if we included something in the mix that came out of the faucet that made the dogs addicted to it? That works too. So they just wouldn't drink water after trying dog water for the first time. Yeah. Yeah. Dog, dog heroin, that's a side brand.
Starting point is 01:07:40 You just put a little bit. Yeah, there's like a, it's like the everlasting gob stopper, but it's just meat. And you put it and it run the water runs over it. Okay, Hank, we were editing that part out, right? Okay. Yeah, I think that this is like an absolute no brainer. Let's make some money here. Okay. And this is legally, we have decided that we have just said this entire idea out loud. So if you steal it, you will be sued. Actually, when we ever do these things, I kind of hope that someone does the legwork and then we can just sue them. Right. We're like, they're always, people always are like, oh, the poor Winklevoss twins.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Dude, I would love to be a Winklevoss. Just have the idea, but no execution. Then sue the guy who did the execution. Yep. That's the American dream. It is the best. Just sitting back on your couch and coming up with ideas. And then someone else actually puts work into it. You're like, yo, man, it's fucked up. I thought about that already. Yeah. And then just, and then, and then waiting till there's such a big company that they're like, fine, we'll just give you $200 million to leave us alone. It's like deal. What Carol Baskin did. Yeah, it's true. She was just mad at Joe Exotic for flexing on her. So she sued the shit out of them.
Starting point is 01:08:49 We need a new documentary, by the way. We got to figure that out. It's true. We'll figure it out. I'm going to watch King and Kong again. Oh yeah. Let's do that. Let's do that for Friday. Let's do King and Kong Friday. We still need you to watch on YouTube. We still need the field goal kicker movie. Yes. Let's let's do. Let's do that. That's that. That one. People can't walk. That's them watching. We have us. Oh, we put it on. We can. Okay. Let's do. Let's do King and Kong. Is that just got me so excited? King and Kong is one of the greatest documentaries of all time. Yeah. King and Kong. You can find the whole thing on YouTube. You just type in King of Kong,
Starting point is 01:09:25 Fistful of quarters. The whole thing is on YouTube knows the fight was fixed. All right. So we're going to do that review on Friday. We're going to do a wide receivers on Wednesday. Yeah, let's do it. Oh, we're going to get big mad about that. Or you know, should we, should we? Let's do running backs. Let's do running backs. Let's do running backs. And we'll do wide receivers next week. Let's do running backs. Okay. All right. We're going to do running backs on Wednesday. We're going to do King of Kong, Fistful of quarters on Friday. Maybe the greatest villain character of all time in any documentary, Billy Mitchell, everyone watch it. We'll tweet it out. We'll tweet out clips. I'm so excited for this.
Starting point is 01:10:04 PFT you've got me back. I'm back. I just need these things to look forward to and diving back into this. I remember the first time I watched this documentary was probably 2004. And I was like, I can't believe these people exist. And it's incredible. It's incredible. It's incredible. So and foul ball guy makes an appearance. That's right. And the guy, sorry. Let's see. When it came out, it came out 2007. So I remember 2007 then. Yeah. I was watching in college. So I didn't remember what year it was. All right. Let's do mouth flush more, mouth flush more websites. Hank, you're first. I am first. All right. My first one is Barclays Sports 1.0. It was a website so bad that it managed to delete everything that was on it for the past
Starting point is 01:10:52 like six years. It was very bad. We have a good website now. We have good tech people now, but basically we had different tech team from 2016 and prior and basically finding anything that was on the website before that, even if I like remember exactly like the blog title or exactly what was in the blog, I just can't find it. There was definitely a level of this site is so poorly done that you like have to keep going back to it because there's something about it. Like when, when the web revolution came and it just skipped right over Barclays Sports, we had that website where people are like, Oh, this is how it's set up. And it was just a constant scroll too. It wasn't even different pages. It was just like, Oh, keep reading. Oh,
Starting point is 01:11:34 reading bitches. I remember going to infinity. Well, no, there was a moment, I think in like 2013 or 14, we were like, Hey, maybe we should make it change. So it's not like 40 blogs on one page. Maybe like cut it up. So it's like eight. And then you have to hit keep reading and our page views like quadrupled. That's smart. Get that extra click in there. It also used to be that you didn't have to click on the on the actual story. It would just be all scrolls. Once you go to bars, one of just every like, was just there. And then everything got lost. So all right, good, good call. Hank for your first pick. All right, PFT.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Okay, for my first pick, right at the gate, I think I'm going to go with Bleacher Report 2007 until 2014. And that it was, it was the landing zone for every single slide show on the internet. It was like 90% of Bleacher Report's website was look at the 50 hottest wives and girlfriends of this English soccer player. And then it'd make you just click all the way through it, click, click, click, click, click, click. And then they went legit. They're kind of like the mob. They tried to go legit and pretend that their bootlegging past didn't exist at that point. But from those years, it was, it was an awful, awful website. Yes. And, and, and game start times. That's what I would always like search for like what channel
Starting point is 01:13:00 games were on. And it was always Bleacher Report. So it, and they didn't pay anybody to write for the website. So anyone could submit their writing to it. And like their draft grades are always hilarious to go back and read because it was just done by some, some person with like a high speed internet access. And that's it. Like they gave Russell Wilson, that, and I think it was like Cliff Averill, that Seahawks grade, they gave it an F. And they rejected me from writing there when I tried to write the world's worst article to see if it would pass their quality filter. They actually caught that one. That's pretty funny. That's pretty funny. Good, good, good to know that they were able to stop you there. That was a, that was a big stop for them. And they had
Starting point is 01:13:39 some random dude just giving his draft grades. That, yeah, that's a good, that's a good one. The slide shows. I mean, it's so funny when you think about all those websites and, and like what they started out and then just trying to pretend like you said, like actually my, my first pick will be the original BuzzFeed, which was kind of the same where BuzzFeed literally just took everything from everyone, like unapologetically didn't even add their own like thought on it. So the original BuzzFeed and they, it was huge, like it was huge. They were able to basically, they weren't, I think the first true aggregator on the internet. Were they not? Yeah, they just, they made lists and it was like the 10 funniest tweets of 2011 or 2012
Starting point is 01:14:25 or whatever. And it would just be screen grabs like no links or anything. Hold on. But yeah, they would just steal all the content. I'm going to try to find this real quick. There was, when BuzzFeed came on the map, Dave got nervous that they were going to like, not nervous, but he was like, we got to keep up with the Jones and he would, he like sent us an email being like, we got to start doing lists, like let's start doing lists. And we made a, we made a calendar where everyone had to do a different list every day. And I think we made it like four days before we all just gave up. Yeah. I remember so stupid as BuzzFeed was coming out, Colin Coward, he did a segment. He was like, I'm going to tell you the secret to business
Starting point is 01:15:07 after this break. And then I was like, well, I got to stay in my car during my lunch break to figure this out because I need to know what the secret to business is. He comes back and he goes, guys love lists. Every guy will read a list. I was like, Colin, I knew that, but thank you for sending it out loud. Yes. Yes. He is, uh, yeah, that lists are what guys want to see. Yeah, I'm looking at 2012 list blocks. He basically sent us an email being like list blocks are the way to go. Got to have a top 10 list. 10, 10 hottest little sisters of professional athletes that are just barely 18. And then they became like the moral arbiter of the universe about five years later. Yeah. This was, this was before the, uh, the separate pages. So Dave's idea didn't even make
Starting point is 01:15:50 sense because it would have just all been one giant scroll. Correct. Yeah. He said it wasn't a slide show. We literally lasted like what we lasted like one week doing these. It was just, he said, people eat this shit up. It's also a great way to build a following with our writers. The bottom line is we're doing these lists just to add more work. I think passing these assignments off to part time guys is a major mistake. So he basically was like, we got to have our best and brightest minds on the list. Just got off the phone with the boys. I got my top man on it in the back. Um, all right. Uh, my other one, I don't know if this one counts. Well, no, it should count. It's the sneakers app slash website. I hate it so much. It's the bane of my existence.
Starting point is 01:16:27 It's the fucking worst thing ever. You never win anything. So that is one of my worst websites out there. That's a good one. I'm going to go with anything, any online education portal. So I'll say blackboard.com. Just awful, awful layout. And you know that whenever you're going there, you're going there because you're doing schoolwork. By the way, did you guys see that the Ivy League is giving away like free courses? Should we take a course? I'd rather just, I'd rather just go to that fake college where you can buy a degree for $10. Okay. All right. Well, we should think about taking a course, maybe not an Ivy League course, but maybe a course somewhere. I like PFT's idea of just jumping into random courses
Starting point is 01:17:08 and inspiring debate. I don't know about actually taking a course. Yeah. I've been crashing some zoom meetings just out of boredom this weekend. It's pretty fun. Hank, if you took one course at Harvard, when people asked like, where'd you go to college? You're like, well, I didn't graduate, but I went to Harvard. I can already do that with BU though. I can already say that. I went to college somewhere in Massachusetts. Well, no, I went to the program. I went to was a one year program at the Boston University Center for Digital Imaging Arts. So I can just take off the like the last four words and just say, yeah, BU.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Okay. Okay. But I mean, you should get a degree from Hartford and just say it really quickly. I might take a class at Harvard just so we just so I can say that. Actually, one of us should do a class at Harvard. The other should go to Yale. So we can have like a rivalry going. Yeah. We could just we could just like all day just do cocaine and make homophobic jokes against each other. That'd be fun. All right. Hank, your two picks. Uh, yeah, the Yahoo search bar. So whenever, whenever you type something in, you think it's Google and then the yacht, the Yahoo search results come up like that are just somehow like the shittiest aggregated results of all time. I'd never make sense to me.
Starting point is 01:18:27 And it's always websites that have like, it's they start with WWW215C34 and then dot and then the address. It's like, that's not even a real website. How, how is this working right now? Yep. And then have you ever been to, I mean, I've, I was, I was searching. I didn't really have a lot, but pft.comiter.com isn't, isn't great. It's not. No, it's it. There's not, not a lot going on there. What about pro football talk.com? One of the worst websites. Larry was an inside job. Wake up sheeple. Connected dots guy. Big has a connected dots guy. I don't understand this website at all. Oh, it goes to barstoolbigcat.com and also says Larry was an inside job for you. Who created that? I mean, it must have been made like three years ago,
Starting point is 01:19:16 but yeah, shit. Okay. They're sitting on a gold mine. Yeah, they are. All right. Your next pick pft. My next one, I'm going to go with Stormfront Neo Nazi message port. So I guess I'm the only one that I didn't even know about that. Yeah. Yeah. That's how'd you find that dumb? That's fine. It's been the news of which I read a lot. So yeah, Stormfront. How often do you go there? I haven't put it on your list. How often do you go there? I've never been. Oh, really? Uh huh. But you already know that because because you're an admin. How would you know it's bad? Yes, Dan Katz, the admin at stormfront.com. How would you how many times you've been there for real? Never been there. Never been there. I just know that's a bad place. Got it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:05 I find it interesting that you're attacking me for putting on my list of worst websites. I didn't see that one coming. I didn't see that one coming because I didn't even know existed. All right. My next one I got. So I got my last two meet spin.com. Hilarious when you get meat spins back in the day. I don't even know if it still exists, but you know, they'll change your change your home screen to it. So funny. That was the original wood. Yes, I was. It was the original wood. And then this one's more of a current one. It's ESPN scoreboard, which is nothing on it because I've been doing that just out of reflex checking, clicking different like sports and everything's
Starting point is 01:20:48 been canceled. So it's the worst website out there right now. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Well, you remember ESPN.sportsnet.com, like the original website that ESPN had back in 1996 or whatever. I have vaguely vaguely that place is really bad. All right. So my final pick is going to be twitter.com slash D a R R E N R O V E L L. Oh, good one. Very bad site. If you're very bad, I've been noticing that he's not been tweeting a lot. I don't know what's going on with him. Hoping that was just sports business supported. There's no sports business going on, which I at least expect it's true. It's true. It's true. So my last one. Yes. Yeah. Turbo TurboTax.com. Do you ever find yourself on there? You're gonna have a miserable experience in my
Starting point is 01:21:38 spirit. Well, the only thing is Hank is probably owed thousands of dollars by the federal government. Yes. Oh, absolutely. Hank didn't pay didn't. I did my taxes two years ago, but there was the there's like two years where I was not making a lot of money. Correct. Had the zero option where the most money got taken out of my taxes that I'm supposed to get back. And I just never did it. Yeah. Why never did it? You picked the worst years to not do your taxes by far. I also think I'm going to have to do my taxes during quarantine because there's going to be a point where I have nothing else to do. No, they extended it though. I know, but like I might actually be proactive. Oh, come on. Let's not say things that we can't take back.
Starting point is 01:22:21 That was the dumbest thing said on the show today by far. You're going to start doing your taxes? Maybe. Maybe we get to May. Hank, listen, somebody's gonna an investor is going to listen to this and they're going to hear you say that and they're going to back out of investing in dog water because they heard that coming from you. Yeah, like this is not a kind of person I want to be involved in. He's crazy. He's crazy. Um, before we get to Billy football, Monday, deep dive, uh, reminder, we're going to do King of Kong fistful quarters on Friday. We're going to do NFL 100 running backs on Wednesday and tomorrow night, Monday night or tonight, Monday night, because you're listening to this on a Monday, uh, we're going to go live with an old NFL game.
Starting point is 01:23:03 We do not know the result of and we know spoilers. Should we even, we should probably not even announce what the game is until we like get into it. Um, but we're going to go live from part of my take, right on from part of my take Twitter. If you go to part of my take Twitter, you'll be able to see where we're live from. It will probably be from a different account. Okay. 8pm, 8pm, Monday nights, tune in. We're going to go live. It will probably be only about a 45 minute. We've condensed the game. It's a game we don't know. Remember anything like that. We're going to watch it, talk about it, live stream it. We'll feel like sports are back. Get ready for that. Eight o'clock, Monday night. Uh, PFT, before we get to Billy football, you
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Starting point is 01:25:13 our intern, maybe someday, our colleague, William football, our son, we're going to do some deep dives with Billy football on Mondays in place of Monday reading. So this should be fun. We're going to get our learn on. We told Billy, whatever you want to, whatever you want to dive into, we'll dive into as well. Billy, what are we starting with this week? You mentioned the other day, if we put everyone into a hibernation state for two weeks, that we'd be able to stop the spread of Corona and the pandemic. So you referenced an article that also had the same take by Donald Jean Neal. I just want on the record, he stole my take. So he actually wrote that after I said it. I just wanted on the record that he actually stole all of our take from
Starting point is 01:26:01 after football season every year, we just want to hibernate until March Madness. So the quiz quote was if it were possible to wave a magic wand and make all Americans freeze in place for 14 days while sitting six feet apart epidemologists say the whole epidemic would sputter to a halt. Anyway, so I looked into this. So first things first, there's no known cases of natural human hibernation. They've been working on this for space travel for years, because they want to like put astronauts into hibernation so they can like not use any resources and just like basically fall asleep and wake up in another planet like interstellar. Yeah. Okay. What about Terry Shiva though? Who's he? She. She will dive into that later. But what about when you black
Starting point is 01:26:49 out if you just get really, really drunk for a long time? How long have you blacked out? I don't know because I was blacked out. So basically, hibernation states you have to slow your metabolism to a fourth of the rate in your heartbeat just beats a couple times per minute. So there's a lot of cases of mammals and polar climates hibernating over the winter. So hibernation is only in a state of cold that they start hibernating. So animals and zoos do not hibernate. Oh, so bears and zoos don't hibernate. Bears and zoos don't hibernate. If they have plenty of food and water and warmth, they don't hibernate. That's going to be exhausting though. Like as a bear, it's got to be in your natural clock that you get to spend like three months out of the
Starting point is 01:27:37 year just napping. Well, what Billy's saying is it's the other way around that it's not they hibernate out of necessity not out of like what they are built to do. Yeah, I agree. But it's also like I shit out of necessity. But like sometimes it feels good to go take a big shit. Right. But but a bear, it's not like a bear is like why am I not hibernating because they're just eating and warm the whole time. Okay. All right. Here's recycle their poop and pee while they hibernate. What do you mean recycle? They don't poop. And they turn it into more carbohydrate carbohydrates and protein while they hibernate. Okay, so does that mean that their stomach just operates at a more efficient level? Or do they actually and their body just the shit they go through the
Starting point is 01:28:23 digestive tract, but then somehow it goes back around the circle. What's like the snake eating its own tail? That's incredible. Anyway, and piss too. I just assumed they just pissed their pants all winter. No, they don't because like the sciences would go into their caves and find no nothing. Please check your pants. So but the thing is only female bears with cubs hibernate bears aren't actually the best hibernators. Everyone thinks they're the best but there's actually other animals. There's other forms of inactivity not confined to cold weather months. This is called astivation, which is done by a lot of reptiles and frogs and some lemurs and Madagascar. So if we were to do it, it'd be in the warm weather months. So we technically be astivation. Wait, so who's
Starting point is 01:29:11 the best hibernator? I think I actually have to go back to my notes. I kind of got sidetracked on bear facts because once I heard the poop one, I was like, let's see what else these guys can do. That's fine. What's a good bear fact? Polar bear skin is really black underneath the white fur. I knew that. Yep. Let me get all the well known good facts. Grizzly bears are as fast as a race horse. Color is regular bear skin. I don't I think it's I'm not sure. Also black, I think. That'd be cool. When it began if instead of horse races, they just had bear races. But so my question for you, Billy is it would be very cool. But how long can they can they run as fast as a race horse? I can't imagine they can run as fast as a race horse for
Starting point is 01:29:53 100 meters. So they can reach speeds up to 42 miles per hour in a sprint. That's like right on these Spears level. So how long can they can they go for? I'm not entirely sure. I gotta look that one. They're probably sprinters. I don't imagine. Yeah. But here's another fact, black, fight back, brown, lay down, white, say good night. So what? Say it again. That's fantastic. Black, fight back, brown, lay down, white, say good night. So so Polar bear, you're fucked. You're absolutely fucked. Yeah. Black bear is a little bitch. You black bear, you actually want to fight back? Well, we want to like make a lot of noise. Get big. When you drop the gloves and be like, let's go buddy. Black bears are whenever you see like the Rex Chapman videos that says
Starting point is 01:30:40 dogs brought it's like a little pecanese that chases away a bear in somebody's backyard. It's always a black bear. And brown, you're just so grizzly bear, you just go on lay down and pretend you're dead. But then polar bears, they're also scavengers. So they'll eat dead things too. So you're screwed. Got it. That makes sense then. So yeah, so that's actually really good. So if you see so Polar bear, you just probably just want to run. Honestly, just I have no idea. Never seen what how's their eyes? So could you could you like get dressed and all white and blend in with the snow? They see in color. I'm not too sure. Maybe just dig in the snow. Okay, burrow, burrow, hybrid. Just dig right in the snow. Okay. Okay, so I'm going to hand him a bottle of Coca Cola,
Starting point is 01:31:24 and then they'll smile and wink at you. Oh, another fun fact polar bears have never met a penguin in the wild. Oh, different. Is it different? Wait, Hank, go ahead. Hop in, Hank. Hop in whenever you want. No. Yes, I see you. I see you. Oh, I'm good. North. Hank. No, no. Get in there. Different poles. One's North Pole and South Pole, right? Which was which? Penguins are in South. Correct. Yeah, fuck. Yeah, they love the sun. So that kind of ruins like a lot of I feel like children's books and and cartoons like polar bears and penguins just kicking it together. Yeah, I remember there was a far side cartoon. Did you ever read that one, where there was a polar bear on an iceberg wearing a beak like with a string around it.
Starting point is 01:32:16 And he was eating all the penguins one by one. And I remember like two people wrote letters to the cartoonist was like, actually, this can't happen. And then he published it was one of them. It was absolutely Darren Revelle. Yeah. Yeah. So male bears are called boars while females are called sows, which is like pig terminology. So I thought that was interesting. That is interesting. This is another this is kind of been circulating the internet, but 175 pound black bear once 88 pounds of cocaine and died. Hell yeah. Wait 175 pound black bear. That's a small bear. Yeah. They call that an otter. Yeah, it's crazy. I didn't know they made the craziest part of that story is 175 pound bear, not the 88 pounds of cocaine in my mind. Was it like he he had like
Starting point is 01:33:01 100 grams of cocaine and it was the 80th gram that killed him or? Yeah, that's a good question. 88 pounds. So there was turns out there was like a lot more like there's some drug runners who were dropping stuff into the woods. And then the the DEA went out into the woods to try to find the drop drugs and found a dead bear with 88 pounds of cocaine. So what we know is that a bear can handle 175 pound bear can handle at least 87.5 pounds of cocaine. Yeah, black bears can party. Well, I wonder if polar bears how they handle the snow. What about the one that's good? That's good, Billy. That's great. Get the flake going. What about the I fucking love cocaine bear? What kind of bear was that? Probably this bear.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Whoa, Hank, are you wearing underwear? Hank's nude. We just saw his balls. Hank just put his balls on the live stream. So there was a bear that fought for the Polish and against the Nazis. I remember seeing this. Yeah, podcast. Yeah, that bears a badass. We should we should write a movie or we should write vogue tech into boner dogs. Billy, how old do bears live to? I think they get about 2025. Oh, that's pretty cool. Like dogs, you know, you know, dogs are a little bit, you know, yes, we, yes, we all hope that dogs live to 20 or 25. Now, can you, can you put like a saddle on a bear and ride it? I saw that once in a Golden Compass movie. Okay. The HBO show that Golden Compass is about is pretty good. What's Golden
Starting point is 01:34:52 Compass? It's this book I wrote on his little, it was like supposed to be the next Harry Potter, but then the guy, the author kind of went nuts in the next book. So they couldn't really make it a children's thing, you know, but they made it, they got, they made it into an HBO series called His Dark Materials. It's pretty good. He's like that, that, that YouTube kids YouTube star Blippi who did the Bukaki. Not Bukaki. Did he like shit in hot tub, right? He shouldn't know he shouldn't his friends face. Okay. I thought it was Joey Salads. No, Harlem Shake. Joey Salads drinks on pee. Okay. My mistake. We're down a little rabbit hole there. Billy, when it comes to these bears, are they, are they in the dog family? No, bears are close bears have claws like dogs,
Starting point is 01:35:43 so they can't retract them, but they're their own separate like their ancestors branched off from dogs a long time ago. There was actually a cave bear from North America. That was one of the largest land predate land predator mammals on earth. That was like huge. Like, I think it was like six, five standing up or no, that's a holy shit. The cave bear I'm looking at right now, Billy. This thing is no joke. Dude. Yeah. They said that it was the only thing that our ancestors feared, like more than anything on the plains. So they were, they were, they got up to 1300 pounds. Oh my God. Oh no, 2200 pounds is the biggest one. Think about how much cocaine that bear can do. Dude, that's a lot. That's like a Keith Richards bear. That's like, wasn't there a movie that had a,
Starting point is 01:36:32 well, we had the, the whatever the, that movie, the Revenant, but wasn't there another one where it was like a huge, enormous bear, prehistoric size. I think maybe night at the museum at 10,000 BC. Was it in that? No, I think it was night at the museum. I just found an awesome like 10 sign that you can hang up in your living room. It says, welcome to the man cave. And it's just a giant grizzly bear. And it says, it says no responsibilities or empty glasses. Women allowed only to replenish food and drink. That's pretty bad ass. I might get one of those. Governor of Moscow trained bears to serve vodka. So that's another famous bear. That's pretty cool. Didn't Wojtek the bear in Polish army, the one that like carried the artillery shells, didn't he smoke cigarettes?
Starting point is 01:37:20 He knew how to salute. I know that. I'm pretty sure he did. Maybe just ate cigarettes. Okay. What else we got? Polar bears mating last longer than panda bears by an hour. Polar bears meeting last longer than panda bears. But wait, don't panda bears only go like a minute? Yeah. Polar bears go for like hours. Oh, okay. But it wasn't like it's pretty easy to last longer than a panda bear. Those are the two sides of the spectrum. Got it. Got it. Okay. How long does it take like a black bear to nut? I gotta figure that one out. I just that was the one fact I saw. I gotta go look at the data. Okay. Do you think that has anything to do with the cold?
Starting point is 01:38:07 Like it takes longer to to bust because it's like so chilly outside. You gotta ask the bears. There is a polar bear grizzly bear hybrid that a couple people spotted shot in Canada. They actually look pretty cool. A pizzerly? That's a grower. A grower bear. Kind of. It kind of looks like a panda. Oh, wow. Is that a panda? Yeah. But like it's huge. This thing's very cool. It's like it's arms. It looks like it's got a farmer's tan. So like the body is white and then the arms and the legs are brown. We all watch Tiger King. You guys know Legers? Yeah. Yeah. The next thing you know how they're bigger. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Groller bears have the same thing. So they're all bears. I love Groller bears. Although,
Starting point is 01:38:55 yeah, I guess if you're going for like what's the more intimidating name Groller is definitely more intimidating than than a Pizzerly. Right. Yeah. Next time we buy a lacrosse team, we should name it the Groller bears. Yes. The bears only predator on earth. The only thing that hunts bears is tigers in Asia. Well, in humans. True. But natural predators. Got it. Okay. Tigers in Asia beat bears. Yeah. Like panda bears. Oh, panda bears are pussies. Yeah. But like loft bears. Panda bears would be like the would be like the Brooklyn podcasters of the world. Like they live indoors. They're only to be gawked at. They don't know what like a hard day's work is anymore. That's a polar bear. Yeah, they're lazy all the time. It's yeah, basically impossible
Starting point is 01:39:44 to get them to mate with anyone. We're just here for for our listening enjoyment or visual enjoyment. Yeah, that's what a polar bear is. What about koala bears? Are they bears? I'm not serious. Not bears. That was very, very dismissive of you guys. That was so good. He just thugged on you. You're like, you're like, don't be a fucking idiot PFT. They're called koala bears, though. You can at least agree that that's a little bit misleading. Polar bears are chads. Yes, yes, they're burges. Yeah, they're simps. What, uh, all right, what else we got? This is good. They're black bears with a genetic variation that they appear white. The Native Americans called these bears a kermode. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:40:31 they call it like the ghost bears. If you like see one, it's good luck or something. They're like in a certain peninsula in Washington state or Canada. Gotta look that up. Okay. Oh, that's close enough to around the same area. What else you got? What is the, uh, the regional distribution of bears in the United States? Where are you least likely to find a bear? Oh, you're least likely to find a bear. Well, black bears are honestly becoming a huge problem near New York City. 30 minutes outside New York, there's like black bears in New Jersey, I know in Connecticut. Tony Soprano, they're everywhere. Tony Soprano, you remember that episode Hank? It was after the ducks left him and then he got really depressed
Starting point is 01:41:10 and he had to go see a psychiatrist because the ducks leaving reminded him of like his dad and everyone else, but he really wanted to fuck the psychiatrist. Yeah, Malfi. So he dreamed about fucking her and then eventually he actually remember the bear. Did they fuck? Yeah, they fucked. Oh, they definitely fucked. Oh, not even just been a dream, but it was a dream. It was a very vivid dream. Yeah, I think they might. Oh, no, she had the dream that they fucked and then she woke up and she had to tell her psychiatrist and then I'm sure her psychiatrist had a dream about Malfi fucking him. That's all psychiatrists think about. Yeah. Okay, your thoughts. Yeah. There's bears on Long Island. There are bears on Long Island. Okay. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Yeah. How'd they get out there? Oh, no, they bears are everywhere except Long Island, New York City. They're okay. So they can't get out on islands. Got it. No, that's good to know. Can they swim? Polar bears can swim close to like 100 miles. Whoa. So we shouldn't feel that bad about global warming because at that point it's like polar bear, you had a chance to get off that iceberg and swim back to land. And polar bear swimmers died. What? All the bad swimmers died. Well, because the they melted their and also because it's like a lot of fat people go out on January 1st and jump in the water and like polar bear. Yeah, that's true. Billy, you know, you've grown a lot like in the last couple years and you've been more curious. And what one thing I
Starting point is 01:42:46 appreciate, I just noticed this right now, when I asked you if bears could swim and you said, yeah, polar bears, they can swim like 100 miles. If this was Billy from three years ago, I would have thought that you thought that polar bears can swim really well. And so your like instinctual measurement would have been like, yeah, they can go for like 100 miles. But now, I think that you actually know that their range is about 100 miles and it wasn't a guess. Mm hmm. Wait, let me just look at that. I mean, 30 miles. 30. That's close. That's like 100. Yeah. Yeah. That's close enough. One case as far as 220 miles. Right. That's tides. If they get it, if they get a good tide, like they're fine. Currents. That's probably the one you were thinking
Starting point is 01:43:27 of. Yeah, you can just sit in the current and just let it take you. Lazy River. Body surf. Miles, we got anything else, Billy? Yeah, that's pretty much all my bear facts. There's a couple ones that weren't as, you know, exciting, but. Well, I want to say thank you because you somehow did this without making a Mitch Trebisky joke. So that was good. I fully expected something there. Bears can't throw. Okay. They can't throw right. I don't think there's any example. Actually, Mitch can't throw left. He can throw right. That's why we actually, the Cam Newton, like Cam can't throw right. It's interesting because bears usually disappear for a while right around January. Right. Okay. I forgot to ask you this last night, but how mad are you that Cam isn't on the bears?
Starting point is 01:44:15 Like those videos. I said on Wednesday. Then there's been more videos that have come out since then where Cam just looks like an absolute monster. Yes. I think he's going to have a good bounce back year and people are going to be like, wait, why do we not pick him up? He looks like an absolute freak. I hope I mean, Patriots aren't going to get him, but I hope never know. Billy, do you have, do you have that hot take about quarterbacks you wanted to lay on us before we let you go? There would be a good quarterback in the NFL. You got to be an absolute weirdo. Okay. All the cool guys burn out. You can't be cool. That's, I think that was the, that was the psyche behind getting Daniel Jones for the Giants was like, like they don't want someone who's like,
Starting point is 01:44:56 like cool guys don't work out. You want a guy who's either like Carson Wentz, where he's just kind of like forest guy, like doesn't really think about all the noise. Like someone who can't even process the noise. You lie. You lie. Whereas Baker Mayfield, he's taken on the noise. Careful. Careful. Real swag is no swag. Yeah. Careful. Baker though. What do you think? You don't think Patrick Mahomes is cool? Well, he's got the whole Kermit thing down. I mean, he's, you know, yeah. Yeah. I feel like you're a cool guy. Like you want to live that single guy lifestyle too. Mahomes has never really done that. Yeah. Big Ben was kind of cool. I mean, not like everyone, but some people is also weird. Like look at his beard nowadays. True. That is weird. He's become
Starting point is 01:45:44 weird. Yeah. Cam Newton. Weird. Weird. He's definitely weird. Paid Manning. A little weird, but weird. He's so close to normal. He wasn't cool till the end of his career. Let's not let's not change history. If you look at the older quarterbacks, I feel like some of those guys were cool and good at the same time, like Joe Montana. His name was Joe Cool. Dan Marino. John Elway. John Elway was a cool guy. Devin Aira. One of the coolest guys. Only one, one Super Bowl and debatably was it his? Did he carry the team? I'm a New Yorker. I mean, like, I'm even admitting that. Wait, for who? Joe Neyman. Oh, got it. Yeah. But he did win a Super Bowl. But yeah, you're right. Okay. We'll have to go through it. We'll have to just go.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Maybe we'll do that list. Maybe next week, when we do a deep dive, we'll list all the quarterbacks that want a Super Bowl and we'll decide cool or not cool. Exactly. We're multiple Super Bowls because yeah, because well, like you could make the argument that Tom Brady might have been cool at the beginning of his career, but then he got kind of weird. Or he was cool during the years after the first three and then before the second three. Interesting. Maybe you could also say that winning multiple Super Bowls makes you weird. And cool. We're gonna have to dive in it. We're gonna have to set aside put a pin in that one big cat. That's the parking lot idea. We'll come back to that. Wow. All right. Wait, before we let you go,
Starting point is 01:47:17 we were supposed to talk about hibernation. Was there anything else about hibernation you wanted to share? We got kind of sidetracked on bears as we tend to do. And hibernate. It's not gonna work. I'd like you to explore that a little bit further. What's the difference between hibernation and coma? Hibernation, you're actually like brain is operating like in a coma, like your internal systems are operating too fast. Wait, so when you're hibernating, you're dreaming the whole time? Well, it's actually different than sleep. A lot of animals that wake up from hibernation actually don't like they act sleep deprived, like they haven't slept. Well, if you sleep too much, you can be sleepier. Yeah. Interesting. All right. So Billy, can we have people send in ideas
Starting point is 01:48:03 for what you should do for deep dives? We'll have them tweet us. Should I set up a deep dive Twitter? Yeah, you might want to. I mean, kind of like a Wikipedia club Twitter. Jay kind of swagged on your old Twitter account. Yeah, he swagged. He swagged on you. Wait, don't we have the Tamaguchi Twitter account? We do have Tamaguchi. I think we have parcels of it. No, we don't. I might have a password for Tommy Gucci. Let me see. We'll get we'll get Billy set up with a deep dive Twitter and we'll just have it because that's really where you always like thrived was fax. That was kind of the the beginning of the Wikipedia. What do we want to call this like Billy's corner? We can do something like that.
Starting point is 01:48:42 Billy's deep dives. Chalk talk. Chalk talk. I like that. Um, okay, uh, Billy, thank you. We'll see you next Monday. Thanks for having me, guys. All right. And you feel better. Everyone should know Billy feels better. Still stay inside though and stay inside. Just looking up facts. All good. Stay healthy out there, everybody. Yes. Love you, Billy. Love you guys. Day is another day to find you. It's part of my take presented by Bar Stool Sports.

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