Pardon My Take - Shark Tank’s Kevin O’Leary, Hand Size Season And Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: February 26, 2020

It’s officially combine week which means one thing, we’re obsessing over hand sizes. Joe Burrow says he’ll play for the Bengals and Dave Gettleman gives an open mic night press conference (2:27 - 18:30). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including soccer chants and Zion being 300 pounds (18:30 - 34:05). Shark Tank’s Kevin O’Leary aka Mr Wonderful joins the show to talk about the new season, what makes a great deal, do we have winners aura, and some of our ideas that should be invested in (34:05 - 79:42). Segments include Bachelor talk for guys that don’t watch the Bachelor, not to brag but we called it Wilder/Fury, Talking Soccer and guys on chicksYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Go download it right now. Use code BARSTULE. You get $10 for free. $10 to ASPCA. Today is Wednesday, February 26th and it is officially hand size season, combine season. Everyone's freaking out. I have a take PFT but I first wanted to know what you thought about the hand size of our friend Joe Burrow.

I thought it was perfectly normal. I thought nine inches is a great inches for your hands. So you measured me a couple years ago when you went around the office. Please specify that it was hands. You measured you. Well you've measured a few things. I've measured you. You measured me and I was a little bit under nine inches a couple years ago.

Somehow I've grown since then. Lengthening your hands. I've been, yeah, somehow using different hand massaging techniques. I'm up to a full nine inches if I want a little bit more now. So Joe Burrow I guess he was under, was he under nine inches but a couple years ago. I think now regardless Joe Burrow is nine inches which is the cut off. Right. And what did Golik say?

It's more than enough? Nine inches is more than enough. He can take his nine inches anywhere he wants and somebody will be satisfied. Yeah. So all right. So my take is this. I think we, the pendulum has swung so far into mocking combine season. I actually hate it now because what happens is with everything in media we mock it to

the point where everyone now sees the hand sizes be released. They see the measurables and they start saying oh this is the dumbest thing ever. Who would ever think a hand size would correlate to an NFL quarterback being good and it might not. It probably doesn't directly correlate, directly correlate but like everything with the combine it's a ton of data that all gets put in a pool of, I think we both agree watching the game film is still number one. But would you not rather have a guy with a bigger hand than a smaller hand?

I would rather have a guy with bigger hand. Yes. It's so stupid. Here's where they need to get even more granular with it I think. The most important inches in your hand come between your thumb and your index finger. Well it's like the NBA does, the NBA doesn't even do the pinky because they go from the middle finger to your wrist. That's exactly what I'm saying.

It should go from like here to like your index finger to the tip of your thumb or your middle finger to the tip of your thumb because that's where your grip strength is going to come in. Right. They should measure that distance not to the pinky. Pinky doesn't really make all that difference. It's just like if you're measuring somebody's height why not just measure to the top of their eyes because every inch above your eyes is wasted inches like from your eyes to the

top of your head. Right. A big forehead. I know it can mean you're the next Peyton Manning but it's usually just like empty real estate. Yeah. Well big brains. So that's why we have the Wonderlick.

So but we'll get the Wonderlick results. People will freak out about those. We'll get the random draft questions that get asked and everyone will leak that and be upset about that. I just think the combine has become this thing where we mock every single scout and every single team and how they do it and some of it is very silly like running a 40 yard dash. I'd rather see are you you know Jerry Rice wasn't the fastest guy. He's a Hall of Famer one of the best of all time if not the best.

But at the end of the day like putting all this data together it's not a bad thing. They should have a bad thing to be like hey this guy's got big hands. He might be over thrown a fucking like vortex. You can throw it a million miles like if you throw a big NFL football it's harder it's harder to grip it. It's harder to throw a better spiral. That's just a fact. But you can throw a baseball farther than you can throw a golf ball.

Well that's that's that's that's like density right. Yeah. But that's the same as like vortex to a regular football. There are other like a little smaller of a football you could still when you grip it you know you can when you have a small football in your hands you know you can throw it farther with a better spot. I agree with you that the measurements are there for a reason right. And it's not like nine inches as opposed to nine point seven five inches or nine inches

as opposed to eight point seven five inches makes a world of difference. Like I know Jake from measured in at like eight and seven eighths. Oh this is another one of my favorite parts though. Everything is out of eighths of an inch. So if you measure in at like nine and a half inches it's really nine and four eighths of an inch. Right. So everything's based off that scale.

I just think it matters a little bit. There's not that much of a difference between eight and seven eighths as opposed to nine where that magical cutoff is. But there is absolutely a benefit to having a big hand if you're trying to grip a football in like the rain or in the cold. Right. There's definitely where they lose me a little bit. And I actually kind of love this is that they measure the kicker's hands too.

Yeah. But they measure everything. Yeah. I mean what if he you know if the if the play falls apart he's probably going to be throwing the ball around as a kicker. I can tell you 75 percent of our job is just playing ping pong in the locker room. Right. So you need to get a hand for that.

Yeah. I just think it's so funny because we've it has swung all the way. I know that there's been some antiquated things that have been exposed with scouting and how we do things. And obviously analytics have made everyone a smarter football fan and it's good. But at the end of the day like some of these things we can scoff at it. We can laugh about it. But I would rather have a quarterback with a 10 inch hand than an eight and a half inch

hand. I just would. I want to know if all things else were equal. Obviously if there's like a great player who's had it has an eight and a half inch hand he's unbelievable like Patrick Mahomes has nine and a quarter. Obviously that's not the thing the deciding factor. But if all things are equal I'd probably have the guy who's taller and has a bigger hand when it comes to my quarterbacks.

I want a 10 inch hand when it comes to my defensive lineman. I want their penis to break through their compression shorts when they run the 40 yard dash. Exactly. I'm a simple man with simple tastes and I'm trying to scout for the best football team I can make. And those are the two thresholds that I look at. It's also interesting that some of the shortest guys because height is obviously another thing

that comes into play. And I think that's been sort of debunked with Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield and Russell Wilson and Drew like all these guys. But again you would probably rather have a guy who's a little bit taller someone who's eye tall who's who can see above you know who doesn't have to move around the pocket as much. If they're exceptional athlete if they're an exceptional quarterback like Russell Wilson right height doesn't matter right.

But guess what Russell Wilson and Drew Brees little fun fact for you two of the biggest hand sizes in the NFL. There you go. So you got to have something. So if you're looking at their spider chart they've got the it's a game of give and take when it comes to that. Now with Russell Wilson and Drew Brees they do have tall eyes. They're like flounders.

Their eyes are very very high although Drew Brees as his hairline recedes it looks a little bit maybe that's why he's not playing as well anymore. He's got more empty real estate up there. I like what what Joe Burrow said today because Joe Burrow finally put his name out there and put it in blood and said that if the Bengals draft me I will play for them. Wow. That breaking news. Shockwaves through the NFL.

I think that this is galaxy brain burrow because I think that he is showing intentionally showing such poor decision making process that he says that he will play for the Bengals that the Bengals be like oh fuck we don't we don't want them. Yeah. Why would anyone want to play for us. That's not our kind of guy. He's failed the the simple like question you know how many ping pong balls in a 747. He failed the most basic question on purpose.

So now that you play for the Bengals now he's like yeah I'd love to play for the Bengals boom red flag. Who in their right minds would you want to play for the Bengals. I know you coach him. I would coach him. Yeah. No I probably wouldn't want to play for the Bengals. Yeah I'm officially not.

If I get drafted by the Bengals I'm pulling an Eli Manning yeah I'm gonna have to man to trade immediately. I think I would probably not play for the Bengals but this is I mean this is all combine season we had Dave Gettelman get in front of the media who gave he gave a hilarious Gettelman ask press conference he said he he he called himself who's he talking about if he trades was the Leonard Williams he said I'll get killed but I've got thick rhino hide so he's calling himself thick rhino hide he also said offense scores points defense wins championships and offenses offense when talking about maybe switching the scheme you snap the ball and

you throw the ball and you catch the ball it's pretty basic again this is very funny coming from a GM in 2020 after watching like Patrick Mahomes just win the Super Bowl against the best defense and just seeing like all these quarterbacks in the offense is the offensive revolution being like you know what we don't care about that it's defense defense and running the ball when you're saying offense is offense you snap it you catch it you run it you pass it you pass it he was just thinking all about Saquon Barkley all those items yeah you dance around the hole you get a guy named Saquon Barkley and then that is your offense and then you get to spend all your draft picks on defense from this point on but you're right

I mean like with with what we saw in the playoffs you I'd say that having a transcendental offense is probably better usually than having a very very good defense because it's extremely hard to put together all the pieces on defense to make your defense like the 85 bears well are those Ravens from the early 2000 are the Buccaneers from the cover two days so it's also just one of those easy things to just be like hey we want to have an explosive offense hey we want to have a really good offense we want to score a lot of points not offense is offense defense wins championships but can't you there is a part of like there's some guy sitting in New Jersey or Long Island right now who's like big blue is back yeah listen Lawrence

Taylor days listen you're not going to win in the NFL by outscoring your opponent you have to make them not outscore you first yes exactly so we have all that going on in Indy we're going to head to Indy tonight actually so we'll be there all day Wednesday doing a couple interviews we say I have a theory about Joe Judge yeah the coach of the New York football Giants I think that he is very good at pulling like an Andy Bernard I'm not really buying what he's been saying the more I think about it in his like introductory press conference where he's just getting basically up in front of the media and saying we're going to be bigger men than the other team look at me I'm a man we're going to out man

the other team by being more physical we're going to practice more physically than they are I think he just saw Gettelman and he was like this is a mark right here I can say everything that Gettelman wants to hear and I'll get hired yeah so I think that that Joe Judge is going to live out the next couple years of his life just basically trying to be Gettelman's wet dream of head coach got it and just get just rack up this page so just copy everything he says he's Andy Bernard or is the Andy Bernard to Bill Belichick and copies everything Belichick does he might introductory press conference was very similar to the Belichick you know everyone was applauding it but that's saying that Belichick is Michael Scott which in this

situation true would not be true well yeah I mean he doesn't he doesn't right he doesn't care about people like mirroring what he says he doesn't even notice that that's true he doesn't even know his own son doing right mm-hmm okay so great how come he gets caught at cheating all the time you think that he would get away with it every now and again when was last time you got I mean he hasn't gotten three weeks ago in years like a month ago and it wasn't even him it was the guy who was hired just right yeah it was a by mister yeah by mr. cracker was an independent contractor yeah he's he doesn't he doesn't even have a health care so it's fine can't can't say anything to him all right so if you want to watch us

barstoolgold.com PMT we're going to be in Indianapolis we are going to be doing some interviews we're going to be walking around the combine everyone just walking around and being like look at that look at to a walking walk it that was a big that was big news on Monday to his walking well they they analyzed his gate yeah so pro football doc looked at how he was walking was like there's a hitch in his step but it's a better hitch than it was like two months ago and I was watching him walk and honestly I thought like that's kind of how I just walk normally it's like a slight limp all the time pimp walk 35 years of hard living yes that's what to it looks like now but the good news is his walk will

continue to improve throughout this process and he has huge hands big hands Jordan love a hand big hand guy now the guy from Michigan State what's that quarterbacks name again Lewerke yeah Lewerke mm-hmm oh my he's like 10 6 8 yeah he's thinks massive so that Michigan care so bad big hands and I think that our next quarterback that's going to kind of fulfill the Josh Allen role and we do like Josh but he when he was going into the draft he was the quarterback that got he climbed the draft board the longer it went since the last time he played a game mm-hmm until the draft the guy this year is going to be Eastern from Washington yep yep as as we get closer to the draft people are going to forget about

what he put on film at Washington yeah and eventually he'll be like top 10 he was George's quarterback and got beat out by from so yeah he definitely is wrong yes oh yeah from's got really small yeah from from saw our tweets about him he did and he said fuck off no he didn't did he really yeah when do you say that yesterday he replied to us no okay he DM'd you there are people in the room what what are you saying you gotta at least no I'm just saying that there are people in the room that yeah we're all we're all is reporting that Jake from's reaction to me and you talking trash about his hands was fuck off interesting yeah good who told you that we're from told Leroy Leroy told me that that someone else said that Jake from

our our friend Jess metana had a tweet that went reviral that actually is a red flag for Jake from because his Twitter handle is Jake from Jake from state from it's so ridiculous that's do it Jake from state farm that's clown Tony O Brown yeah he's a fucking idiot like sorry Jake you really want us to get mad now we're mad my darling you moron he's probably a nice guy I'm sure he is I thought I was he should have he should have left Georgia right after the national championship game just not played for two years I was ready to draft the number one overall after that game he projected to go he's all over the place because he wasn't good this he wasn't bad he just didn't have a lot of weapons and like I don't know he's I think it's like late first early second that

would be amazing Chicago Bears Patriots you know what's gonna happen need it you know what's gonna happen let me see even change my draft always goes down isn't the first like 15 picks you get three quarterbacks that go off the board that nobody expected and then every one of the second half of the draft just panics like we got to get in on some of these yeah so I yeah I don't know exactly where he's gonna end up but he feels like with the hand size with us kind of dogging him here he's probably gonna slip he's gonna get the reverse Josh Allen from us unless he wants to pay us some of his signing bonus which then we will start saying oh my god Jake from what a smart guy actually think Jake from might be undervalued because of how small his hands are if you get

him in a city like Miami yep that would actually be perfect if you can't you know for whatever reason the dolphins don't land to a maybe trade back his hands are small but that video of him flipping the ball when he snaps back is still good point good point he's got lively okay so Jake from if you're listening to this or someone close to you is we will make that video go reviral all you got to do is say you like us that's really all it takes really when it comes down to it I'm looking at one mock draft right now and he does not look like a first round guy but I'll give him a I'll give him a late first round grade why not I need to tell you what I before I make any more judgments about his hands I need to see that that thumb to middle finger split mm-hmm yeah I can get the

20-second split on the 40-yard dash actually here here we go Jake from all you got to do is send us a picture of you giving us the finger and we're like oh my god look at your fingers they look so long that's true big boy mm-hmm growing boy all right let's do hot seat cool throne before we get to Mr. Wonderful our interview with Kevin O'Leary we have the new Bud Light PMT mini fridge in our studio it's awesome we have some Bud Light seltzers in there and hot seat cool throne is brought to you by our friends at Bud Light seltzer try it for yourself and see why great tasting Bud Light seltzer is putting every other hard seltzer on the hot seat I'll show we'll post a picture of it it's actually a really sick custom design it's legitimately amazing although I'm kind of on the

hot seat myself oh okay so you want to start because I'm not on it you're not oh yeah do you even drink me and Stella do you burn bro we got the cut yeah but my other hot seat was actually you PFT oh so the last couple months you've kind of been like the the common man athlete slash professional that everyone's rooting for you know they want to be a pro and they want them to you know get his shot and still rattles me every time I see you with the blue check the underdog I can't get used to it I don't really like what's going on it's so bizarre yeah it's so bizarre I don't really like it but I have found myself just like swimming in that verified tab on Twitter are you gonna get rid of it I was able to switch my Twitter by an unverified bad boy though so thank you for that

oh yeah so where wise PFT but you're like the underdog you know every man journey man that everyone's rooting for David airs the NHL goalie who was like a Zamboni driver yeah that they called in and asked him to start a game he won the game so he's kind of the new guy everyone's kind of forgot about PFT and his ex the fellow dreams that's true this guy David airs is like the new journeyman hero yeah it truly is $500 Zamboni driver yes it's the only sport that can have this happen the Blackhawks had it a couple years ago it's there's no other sport where you can have a like I mean obviously he's good enough to be in the NHL for that moment he's not terrible terrible but it's the only sport where a goalie can be a guy just driving a Zamboni let's throw him in an

emergency yeah no other sport like that I had always really enjoyed these stories of the emergency backup goalies kickers can do it too but there's not a emergency kicker there sometimes there can be okay maybe there could be right in college maybe maybe in college yeah there could be yeah but what I like about the emergency goalies is I never really understood it really until like last year there's one that's in the building somewhere mm-hmm that they just stashed like beneath the stadium extra wrap yeah and in an undisclosed location so no one can get to him and so if you're too if you're too starting goalies get hurt doesn't matter what team it is they're gonna come out and fill in I didn't understand that until like last year because

I'm an idiot I just thought oh that's weird that it's always somebody that happens to be from that hometown some random dude that gets in but yeah it was pretty awesome also what makes him even more of a common man is he got in and then like 70% of the attention went to his wife because his wife was really good at Twitter while he was in that's and so everybody after the game was interviewing him and they were just asking about his wife's Twitter account and he was like oh she just likes to get on the Twitter and have fun I guess it's pop off for a second wait what team is for the hurricanes right mm-hmm that's pretty awesome love the story like this they're gonna write a movie maybe maybe it's just a documentary all of them yeah okay what's the

yeah we should do that over the summer try to interview as many emergency goals goals yeah or Zamboni drivers yeah either or what's my full throne is Bruce got a GQ feature although you look kind of weird in the pictures no offense what why would you say that let me look look at the pictures look there hold on hold on it's not vintage Brooks GQ what does he look like sunglasses where okay where sunglasses all the time okay it's kind of weird all right I'm looking he's looking pretty hot he's in a bathrobe or some kind of it looks like he looks like Neo in the matrix when he was Lawrence Fishburne character when he's golfing wearing the robe that was pretty sweet when he definitely was like there was probably a wardrobe person that showed up that's what yeah

that's okay that's what it looks like to me that's what it looks like to me see through shirt with the they're like just wear this and he was like uh okay chain looks good sunglasses I like the yellow tint so yeah he's he's hot as always duh hottest golfer both golfing and looks on the tour so the one that I didn't really know about was the one where he's on the water is he in a jet ski or is he on a boat because they don't show what he's riding if it's a jet ski that's fucking awesome that's sweet I think he's on a boat yeah he's on a boat he's on a boat all right he looks great and then my other cool throne was the Jordan crying face meme yes so at the Kobe Bryant tribute at Staples Center yesterday Michael Jordan spoke very very nice speech but he started crying at the

end of it and he like was like breaking the fourth wall he's like oh I didn't want to cry I told my wife I was going to cry because now I'm going to see memes of my crying face for the next three three four years yeah that was kind of crazy it was an awesome tribute in a touching spoke yeah yeah I was like in a very like obviously it was all very sad and like but like Shaq's story about him saying uh you know Kobe there's no iron team and him being like there is an enemy in that motherfucker like that was very funny the MJ thing was very funny so it was a very nice ceremony but there weren't some funny things that came it was I like how Michael Jordan said like he went when he acknowledged the crying face he's like now Kobe's got me because he turned me into a meme again

yeah like that was nice saying like Kobe beat him yeah but yeah it was a really good speech I thought that Shaq was awesome yes and you could tell that like he those guys obviously meant every word of it is that it Hank all right my my hot seat is Joe Biden because Mr. Joe Biden has been busted he got rated four Pinocchios which is the worst thing you can call anybody in American politics these days because he said that he got arrested in South South Africa when he was visiting Mandela but he really just got detained oh my yeah oh no he's got spoken to it's harshly it's pretty bad pretty bad stuff so he should get arrested for saying that I agree yeah he should yeah you want to be arrested buddy you want hey listen hey listen Jack you want to talk all that trash like

your corn pop around here guess what we'll lock you up straight away all right Jack who is that is that a Joe Biden that's Joe Biden uh what what so he got no handcuffs I don't know what happened in terms of the uh the security apparatuses that were put around him but he he was not arrested damn so that's a real gross thing to lie it is it is like lying when you're going to visit a place like that it's just it's bad and then trying to get cloud off it yeah really dude cop chaser really and then my other hot seat is chanting so there's a Japanese soccer club they're called this school Kobe and they banned chants in their stadium in order to try to stop the coronavirus from spreading oh that's their that's their first line of defense is no more chanting

that's this could be a good new feature with uh soccer around the country like around the world where they have something like this like oh all these fans haven't shown up to this game coronavirus or racism which one is it that's because when you started that saying that I was like oh they were probably being racist towards probably chanting something very much what soccer fans very specific racist chant towards Koreans yeah or sir something was going on you know they they got banned with by the Champions League that's always soccer whenever they have a Champions League game and there's no one in the stands like well they have a four-year ban on all international play because of racism I also love how there are certain like stadiums in uh like Turkey and Eastern Europe

that are extremely dangerous to be in like people get knife there and flares being thrown there and they're like hey not knock it off with saying that racist word yeah people like murdering each other in the stands yeah so okay so it's coronavirus not racism so it's coronavirus not chant exactly uh and Italy Italian soccer fans are spreading this racism oh yeah close they're spreading the coronavirus got it I can get racist with because they they do so much gesturing with their hands yeah like the Italians speak just need some hand cleanser they're throwing all the germs all into place they're just yeah when an Italian talks that's like a physical version of chanting my cool throne is the San Diego State University jack rabbits women's basketball team

so South Dakota what I say San Diego yeah South Dakota the jack rabbits um so one by one five players from their team all hit half court shots like consecutive I saw that in practice they went viral it was uh Sydney Stapleton Addison Hirschman Peyton Burkhard Jordan Ferrar and Lindsey Theonich so they all hit not really practical though not well in a game you shoot from half court sometimes due to that perfect due to oh I like that yeah that's like you break them up that's like if all the guys from dude perfect got on their periods at the same time yeah do you know they're gonna be able to hit half court shots you know they're on a tour yes I did know that they like sell it out I did know that um but here's the worst part they had a freshman named Tori Nelson who also made a half

court shot but they didn't start taping until after she made it oh Tori so it was really six rows so Tori here's your acknowledgement congratulations you had it you allegedly made a three we believe you we believe you yeah we believe you all right my hot seat is the Olympics similar to with the coronavirus talk there the Olympics are now on the hot seat because the coronavirus uh and we had a IOC member I I I think we knew this but I didn't I forgot that his name was dick pound oh yeah but his name's dick how can you forget dick pound IOC member dick pound says Tokyo Olympic organizers have until late May to see if the virus is under control if not you're probably looking at a cancellation you cancel the Olympics sounds like dude you think

dick pound would lie I think probably no I think dick pound is someone he dick pound is obviously now trending so it's fun that you know when we can talk about a deadly disease that no one can get control of at least we can get the right thing trending here with dick pound that is kind of funny so dick pound name literally means unit unit and he is the head of the IOC uh member IOC member I'm going to call him IOC head he's the head of the member dick pound yep I think um yeah it's actually it is good for awareness that his name's dick pound we wouldn't be talking about as much people are clicking dick pound the trending and now obviously a lot of people aren't really reading the headlines they're just seeing the name dick pound he this isn't exactly why HIV and AIDS became

so well discussed in America when magic johnson true said that he had the virus true it's all fact we need a someone who can stand up and have their name trend stand straight up pound damn a lot of jokes being made about dick pound poor dick pound I mean he knows it though yeah he doesn't care if your name is dick pound though and you don't become a porn star yeah do you think you're probably not well in doubt well I like what dick pound is doing wandering because he's it's nice that he's just getting it out of the way because he could go by Richard but he's he's basically saying no I'm not going to hide from this like you made the joke in your head yeah I'm going to just make sure that everyone knows that I'm not afraid of saying

my name's dick pound yeah he's actually taking the joke away from right right because if it was Richard pound everyone would just make the joke and then we'd be like thinking oh Richard pound really didn't want us to say this he's prematurely saying it's perfect I'm going to get perfect dick pound all right my cool throne is Zion because Zion is allegedly Bill Simmons said that he heard from a source that Zion is 300 pounds and if Zion is 300 pounds he's on my forever cool throne because he's our chunk king and everything he does he's already incredible like better numbers than rookie LeBron it's it's incredible watching him I don't know if you saw that one clip where he just bullied the ball out of someone on the Warriors like it really did look like a high school kid

playing basketball against middle school he got like two points two rebounds and a steal and like one second in one second right uh but Zion if he is 300 pounds he's the most impressive athlete of all time if he's doing this as a 300 pounder and he's also on the cool throne forever because if he if things go wrong it's like dude he's 300 pounds what do you expect I was looking at three bills I was looking at the perfect game him the other day and he actually looks skinnier than he did at Duke he looks stronger he might be stronger which is I don't know that's almost more impressive to just get over 300 pounds just by getting yoked up he's also around bigger people so maybe that's why he looks a little skinnier like in college basketball he when he would play against teams that didn't

have you know great athletes like holy shit this is not fair yeah that's true that's that's a great point when he's going up against seven footers like when he played against taco fall right he looked small right and now he looks I don't know maybe my eyes were deceiving me but if he's over Bill Simmons has a source see he said a source told him that he was over 300 pounds that's nuts to me I mean I really hope it's true because he really is the most impressive I'm trying to think who Bill Simmons source that like has eyes on Simmons or on a scale would be I don't think JJ Redick would ever like reveal another man's weight I think it would be very mean I think JJ would do it as a joke oh yeah yeah maybe Zion's gonna be like LeBron's weight where it just keeps

going up like when LeBron was 290 or 2 or people would be like yeah he's LeBron 7 2 290 yeah no he's now 7 5 and he gains 300 pounds a game Kevin Durant gets half an inch taller every time we talk about him so maybe Zion will just end up being like 400 pounds dominating everyone I still think you could dunk it 400 easily if you put on 100 more pounds oh there's no doubt about it um all right that is hot seat cool throne he's a guy that every time he dunks I get upset when the rim doesn't bend it's he needs to shatter a backboard I don't think they make him that way anymore but fuck we should he should do the dunk contest and just have it be an old backboard yeah no he did at the uh at the rising stars game that he like broke the rim yeah that's right

the foundation of the hoop that's right it's different I'm saying shatter like true shatter I feel like we haven't had a true shatter in a decade it's different you can see him grab the rim and it's like slightly bent and then they stop the game for 20 minutes and wheel another one out that's not the same as like tearing the scoreboard or the shot clock down onto your opponent's right I need that um okay so let's get to our interview with Kevin O'Leary mr wonderful thank you to bud light selzer our hot seat cool throne sponsor and our bud light uh new fridge that we have in the pmt studio pft you want to do a quick ad before we get to mr wonderful I would love to before we get to mr wonderful I want to talk to you guys about our good good friends at cbd md the

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have to fight against primetime football on sunday nights there we go so we're gonna boost our ratings like crazy so you're gonna boost the ratings like crazy now uh we're gonna talk about everything in this interview but i have to start with something that you did you showed up to the office our office about an hour early yes are you trying to play a mind game with us absolutely i wanted to screw you up because you know today we had a massive media sweep day we started i think at five a.m i got up to do good morning america then the view then yadda yadda then whatever else and we were just pounded it down all the sharks together cuban and i were together and some of these things barbara and other guys and we got it done efficiently i couldn't believe it usually these new york trips are

total screw up and here i am half an hour early now if you can't handle that too bad well we made you wait we've been ready and let me tell you it's going to cost your career yeah we we should all you know mr wonderful doesn't forget if i have to waste time like that you have to pay well you wasted it i was in here i was in here just working out i was like you know what let him wait for a second you know watch what happens from here on in bad things don't you think we have the upper hand right now not at all okay now that now that you've disclosed the truth you are screwed you know what because i like you so much already um i'm going to air this interview yeah in its entirety tomorrow i just need five percent of the rest of your income that's never going to happen of course

the license king you know let's look it's a great way to go just i love cash flow i like to get a check every month it makes me feel warm and fuzzy well so i was actually going to get to that later but let's just let's dive into it how many times do you have to go to your mailbox to get a check every month or is it all just direct deposit i got people for that and i get this tear sheet every month and i just go through it and i'll tell you it tells it tells me the health of a business when i'm getting percentage of sales and i'm looking at you know over 50 different companies i remember which ones are working well and which ones aren't based on what the cash flow is from the prior month so i tell my guys give me the last three reports in three different columns and i just graze through

it i'm just like a minor minor for gold that's it i look at the cash flows and i know which companies are doing well which aren't this is old school because if you let people bs you into investing companies that never return your money it's a horrible outcome this way i've got a piece of the action on the top line and i always have some equity in the bottom so i like both sides so i i see companies like uber or we work that are valued as you know 10 billion dollar companies or whatever they are at any given time and they're always like cash flow negative right they're always i told the we works crew here in new york having met with them many times if they were a lot of the people working there were very entrepreneurial i said you are a zero and you're going to zero

with a bullet because that old game that that that's structure that kind of company has been tried before twice once in england once here it always goes to zero because what you're basically doing is taking long term debt obligations to either lease or buy a building and then you're providing short term leases to some really shitty companies that don't make any money like let's paint the wings of a butterfly dot com and you're going to rent that to them i'm interested in investing in yeah that sounds pretty cool is that like you stand in front of it for an instagram picture but my point is you have you have a whole building full of crap companies that don't make money and you have to keep paying your mortgage off so eventually when there's a

downturn in the economy you go to zero because you can't pay for the buildings now in the case of we works because they had such a huge investor lost so much they had to do another round of refinancing but believe me they're going to restructure that company it is a disaster on wheels so you walked into their offices and you told them straight to their face you're a zero yep so are you ever not a dick no i'm just telling the truth you know that i'm the only shark that tells the truth if you want to do kumbaya and worry about those which ones do kumbaya break them down for break down each shark to my right is barber to my left is lori and they're kumbaya all day long but they'll not you know they'll say look you keep going keep wasting your family's money

it's a dog of an idea but i'm not going to invest in it but you keep going i don't want to hurt your feelings i say that idea is a piece of shit and it's going to zero and you're going to bankrupt your family do you want the truth or not if you can't handle me we don't the real world gets you it's going to bite you in the heiny because in business there's no gray you either make money or you lose it pick one and there's you know oh i'm hurting their feelings i don't care about their feelings i care about their money i'm trying to help them i'm the only shark that really cares about you the rest are disingenuous and they lie to people all day long what about cuban he doesn't mark doesn't lie to people he tells you the truth we don't agree on anything

and that's okay because we haven't agreed on anything in 11 years right um he's always doing you know tiny equity deals i think is not his you know frankly mark is now moving towards my structures and i feel i should invoice him for the education he's received from me i like he turned down i actually offered him a licensing deal we had mark on about a month ago i five years ago i was in front of my game a licensing deal he could license 10 of my brain for the rest of time he gets money off of it for a million dollars he turned it down but have you noticed as the years have rolled on that everybody wants to do licensing deals who invented licensing deals on shark you're invented there's only one guy mr wonderful and now all the other sharks are grass

hoppers they're learning from mr wonder so what's yours what's your like next move to get in front of that well it well i always gonna have a license deal because i love the cash flow repeat that cash flow let that roll off your lips cash flow okay wonderful yeah and then now i go for a little equity a little taste a little wet my beak about here we go wet the beak yeah so if you woke up tomorrow morning you had zero dollars to your bank account yeah big fat zero no checks coming to the mailbox that would be a very bad outcome it would be bad because that's no cash that sounds like a we works to me it does yeah and everyone would tell you the truth about what they think of you i would be like i'd be like you're broke your broke is shit yeah what's

your first move if you have zero dollars in your bank account well i'm a salesman i'd get right back out of bed get my ass out of bed and start selling something that's all i've ever done my whole life i'm sales and marketing baby that's what i do and i think it's the hardest job in the world because every month you started zero yet again and i tell all the great sales women and men i work with because if i'm gonna buy a company i don't go meet the ceo first what i do here's my strategies i roll into town i say who's the guy or gal running sales who's running the sales sales show here i want to take him up for dinner and we're going to drink some wine if you want to find the truth out about a business you meet the person running sales and they know where all the skeletons are

they know what's working they know what isn't you find out so much and then after that and maybe three or four bottles of wine the next day i go meet the ceo and say listen i had dinner with your head of sales i have some questions for you and if that guy doesn't know the answer or a woman who's ever running that company doesn't understand what i know about their company from the sales side as soon as i get control of that company i fire the ceo because if you don't understand the pulse of a business which is sales by the day by the month by the year you don't know what's going on has there ever been a time where you did that but the salesperson was so good they sold you on something that wasn't real no because great sales people have one thing it's

called consistency when they give you a quarterly target and they hit it consistently you can't bs sales you either have the sales or you don't so the most coveted salespeople and anybody listening to this it's in sales understands this are the ones where the ceo or the people above them can rely on what they say so if they say look boss i think i can bring in five million this quarter the ceo then takes the resources required to get that five million and deploys it puts it at risk and if the salesperson misses that's a bad business decision so you need salespeople that are consistent i've been doing this forever i've got you know 50 plus portfolio companies and i know the ones that are good at forecasting sales and the ones that can't but salespeople are gold they are the essence

of american business who the essence of american business now i i notice you didn't say canadian is it different well i'm a north american investor i got businesses actually now all around the world oh shares my etf company invest globally now it's got over 800 million in it and i've got deals in mexico canada over in europe pure stateside i got a lot of deals and you know basically i try and invest in good businesses and i kind of ride the ins and outs of the economy but most of them make money and they send me a check every month and that then i can eat is it easier to sell things just in general up in canada than it is here i feel like that would be like fishing with dynamite like here by this product oh okay canada is is unfortunately right now in the bottom quartile

of the g7 because of really weak management you know the problem with having a poor leader and i look i don't want to be critical of come on go ahead yeah well just in trudeau is he's never run a business he has no idea what he's doing when it comes to being competitive so um you know trump slaughtered him on energy just yesterday another seven billion dollars left canada in the energy space and it's moving to the us because you know trudeau we do is win yeah well with trudeau pipeline anyway it's real easy to beat him so seven thousand that shit off seven thousand you're a danger to help fuck them we're building a pipeline just they're yeah they're cast low baby pipelines canada can't get it done so the capital seven thousand jobs out of canada boom suck

right off i think um i like justin as a person i would never let him manage my money he shouldn't be managing a country and he will lose his job soon because canadiens are just howling at the moon they're so unhappy that's a genius thing that all like cutthroat guys say they say i like that guy as a person but um and then they just go oh but i'm being honest i mean i'm sure he's not managing his own money because he'd be bankrupt by now um all right so shark tank let's talk about when someone walks in that room what is the first thing you're looking for because i feel like you more than anyone else will decide almost instantly so what is that i'm gonna share a little secret with you guys because i've been doing this for so many years and i've seen thousands

of pitches i can actually tell now when they step out on that carpet the way it really works is they come out and then a steady cam takes a bunch of shots so we're waiting for about 90 seconds before they start talking the set director says don't say anything just look at the sharks and let us get our tight shots of you from the various steady cam angles so they're sitting there they've been waiting all day they walk out there the lights are on the 21 cameras are on them the sharks are looking at them and at that moment i can sense their aura whoa and i know exactly whether we have winners or losers they don't even have to say anything i just have to look at them and i know right away and i'm not right some of the time on this i'm right a hundred percent

i can now at this point sense the aura of success or losers okay so can we our producer has a genius idea can we have him walk in the room and you can sense his aura yeah i just get to understand all right yeah we're gonna have Hank walk in the room walk in the camera is one of the smartest ideas i won't tell you what you don't have to tell me i'll the or i will say the or i will tell me that is revolutionary for the car game the car space do you like cars do you think the world i love cars oh interesting do you like it do you like when people use the term space instead of like here he comes here he comes here he comes i love that here he comes wait wait wait stand up in the middle right in front get in the middle and then put the camera around him let's get our

steady cam shot mr wonderful is looking him up and down okay hang on we need to get the shot hank is wearing a stained shirt it is mardi gras though so he probably was drinking earlier okay i think we're ready are you ready you want the answer yep hanks a loser oh come on what he comes into pitch an idea with that t-shirt on and these sweats are you kidding pitching it i'm sorry man you got to be a winner you got to be ready you have to be on your game when you walk in a room like this hank don't even say anything you're a loser wait explain your idea real quick hank all right you're going to bed every night you want to get your mouth no wait i thought it was the cars oh i have so many ideas i know what you're doing he's gonna tell you about this one's already

been on shark tank though it has the car the different version that may or may or may or may not be better listerine and nike will combined basically cut your time getting ready for bed and half thank don't give up your day job i like i was i right yeah i didn't even think about it i didn't think about it i i just thought about it really or if lori was here really bad qbc this is qbc city i do like how it and so that's the kind of thing lori would say you know that's not you keep going you keep trying with that but oh i don't i can't invest in that but oh you keep going that's wonderful that's disingenuous that's the line i told hank the truth that idea sucks he's a loser everyone has teeth he's not a loser the idea is a loser my point about the karma is

i sense their idea and i can say loser when it is a loser because that is a dog oh okay i got i got one i'm just going to go i'm not even going to walk into the room i'm not going to wait for the steady cam okay night caps what we don't no one wears night caps anymore we used to wear them all the time they're going to come back team branded night caps nfl night caps that look like i'm just going off the cuff right now i haven't even thought about it they look like little helmets and maybe the strap that goes around your chin looks like a face mask boom sort of like scrooge right yeah except branded right to your team yeah sold uh no no definitely not i don't think nightcaps are popular these days because yet well what's happened since the days of scrooge and i'll tell you why

they wore night caps a little history lesson for you in scrooge's day when you went into your bedroom it was coal fired uh hearth that gave heat to the bedroom so let's say you're going to bed at 10 o'clock you stoke up the fire okay it's burning it's warm in the room but you're going to be asleep for eight hours so sometime four hours later the coals burned down and it starts to get really cold in your room so in those days they'd have covers over them but their head was exposed so what they did to heat their dome is they put a little cap on because when they woke up they could see their breath that was old england in those days before there was central heat now we have central air conditioning moth houses this is good to know your history so that's why the

nightcap is a really bad idea because nobody stokes their fire in their bedroom anymore what are you talking about scrooge mcduck any scrooge from the days of you know like you're talking 1800s here when nightcaps are popular with men's styles what about scrooge mcduck maybe but what does that have to do with the night i don't know i'm just wondering like he's got the pool of money and you know i think you boys should come to the shark tank set i would eviscerate both there oh i would own your ass there are a couple things that you're missing out about nightcaps number one is the comedic effect when you're when you're snoring and it kind of floats up in the air like in cartoons that's funny people want to see that the other thing is we can get your girlfriend slash wife would

love to see that we can get one person to write a junk science article about how using a nightcap will eliminate the flu are like you make your brain yeah that would be a lot seller right now in asia at like a 90 level and then all of a sudden you're gonna have every facebook mom across america order them yep really all bad i mean you really should come to shark tank i'm gonna give you a personal invitation okay i'll give you one uh and this is one that actually mark cuban said he regrets that he passed up on okay we trademark the phrase think about it because what are you doing right now thinking about it yep so now you owe me money license think about it dot com right and so you anytime i'm pretty sure you couldn't trademark that but if i tell you to think about it you

immediately start thinking about it now you owe me money interesting it's the best thing you've come up with so far okay the rest of the total shit yeah all right i like that all right so you sense aura when someone walks in have you had i'm talking about their idea they're not not the person a bad person the because they're thinking about that idea they're so intense they've been practicing for a year they're finally on the shark tank carpet all they're thinking about is their pitch they're trying to remember how they're going to put it together i look in their eyes and they go oh it's a dog so have you ever invested in one that turned out to not be great and you're like what was with my aura i didn't have this i didn't have the spider sense in the early years but i began

to build it into my psyche because i've seen so many pitches and by the way it's not just on shark tank i got stopped on the street right outside here people want to pitch me and here's something you should know if you pitch a shark any shark you'll never be on shark tank because of the game show loss the shark can't know the deal when that person comes out on the carpet and every once in a while someone walks out and i go oh shit that person was in my office last week i stand up and say stop tape i don't want to break any laws i don't want this person to it'll be disingenuous they signed a contract saying they hadn't talked to a shark it happens oh so i would love to take you up on your offer to code a shark tank no it's too late now you'll

never be a shark yeah so we probably hypothetically would have killed you on shark tank but we can't do it we can't sorry you can try to remember it that way if you wish that's perfect now we have an out when anyone's like hey you guys are so smart because people approach us all the time like you're so smart you have so many ideas you should go on shark tank yeah we should be a shark yeah we can't do you think we have it when it takes to be a shark why don't you tell you what you pitch us on i'll judge your aura well you know what i've said i don't like your product okay it's over between us all right so uh you have a quote that says uh when someone asked you about like being cut throat you said you have to be willing to fire your own mother you do

you do would you do that yeah i would i'll tell you why people don't understand this but you you'll figure it out when you start a business let's say you start a business the first thing you're tendency to do and make people make this mistake all the time is that hire all their high school friends and their family their sister their brother their you know brother-in-law all that stuff that is not what you should do when you start a business you should try and figure out how do i sustain sales how do i grow profits so that everybody working for me has a job that's safe and when you find somebody that you hire and i always say this hire slowly fire quickly because you want the culture if you're the leader of a business particularly a small one doing under

five million sales which is the majority of shark tank companies everybody has to share your vision they have to understand where you want to go because if they're not on board it's a cancer in your business so when that obviously becomes the case you have to go them say look you're not on the mandate anymore you're not with me you're not with us as a team you don't want to do what we want to do there's only one thing we got to get rid of you so i'm firing you i'm taking it behind the barn you know what i got to do you have to be fair to them you have to pay them what they're what they deserve because you're going to run into them again sometime and you want good karma but by keeping everybody on track on board and focus that's

how you grow business now if your mother is no longer performing what do you do you say you say mom sorry but you can't work with me anymore because i have to take care of everybody else that's working for me it's that simple edit this out at all backwards that's what it sounds like what if your brother-in-law is bill gates well i think bill gates probably wouldn't be working for you because he's stinking rich he might be your investor and that's different okay if you have a rich brother-in-law and they're investing in the business your responsibility is and i'll tell you anybody that starts the business and then takes money from the outside is no is no longer working for themselves they're working for that investor and they have to be very careful they get that

money back because if you actually make money for investors they'll keep giving you more that's how it works okay so now are you obviously you're very wealthy are you one of those wealthy people that spreads wealth do you take your friends out to dinner do you tip well i'm always curious yeah i actually um when i do a lot of business at lunches and dinners and i always pay for them myself because i don't want to owe anybody anything so i you know some weeks and this may sound crazy i spend ten thousand dollars on food what are you doing later on yeah exactly but you know i'd rather take you out for dinner you're pitching me on a deal and i'll buy it i'll pay for the dinner and i don't owe you a thing smart yeah look and for me it's just an investment and

you know in that that i do a lot of business on a sort of a social basis and i'm not scared to tell the truth i really do spend that much money and i'm also in the wine business so i hate drinking shitty wine so i was ordering good bottles and i'm trying my competitors bottles versus mine and that's kind of a fun thing yeah i imagine that when you're in a business that you actually enjoy as a consumer it might be a little bit different so when you're in that space do you find yourself like uh i don't know i don't want to put your thumb on the scale for something but you have a business that might be underperforming but you really like the product and you might be slower to correct that's a great question you know i actually don't do that when a bit when a

company is failing um and believe me when you're doing the deals that we do on shark tank about 20 don't make it and the problem with a company that's flailing is it starts to consume a lot of your time and it's not a good investment of your time because it's not going to make it and usually the number one reason which is very simple is when a company starts out they have to have a strategy to acquire customers and everybody thinks the internet is very easy to use to acquire customers but the truth is that majority of companies fail within 36 months for one singular reason they're never able to get the cost of their customer acquisition below the lifetime value of that customer a fancy way of saying they go bankrupt advertising it happens to about eight

out of 10 companies eight out of 10 failed because of that so what i look for are companies that have figured out how to acquire customers and then i just pour gasoline by giving them more money to pursue that strategy that's the secret of shark tank is it helps you acquire customers because 10 million people see you a week that's why if you have an idea you should get it on shark tank because in syndication you're going to get a lot of people seeing you guys are on all the time do you ever worry about that because like you can turn on a tv right now anywhere and you guys are on our station yeah i know that but actually cops are the new cops it's a good thing and i'll tell you why because every deal is different people like to see the deals some people binge watch on

binge watch shark tankers they just love to see what's coming through those doors next and it's great for the companies because they constantly stay on television and they acquire customers for free it hasn't hurt shark tank it's been on for now it's in its second decade it's amazing we never thought this was gonna happen ever i mean you know i get 11 and 12 year old stopping me saying hey you overcharged that guy last night on shark tank what like what grade are you in but that's that's how you know ingrained shark tank is into america now there's definitely like a little bit of excitement that i get if i'm in a store and i see something in the either the as seen on tv or like one of the aisles and i remember it from being pitched on

shark tank i'm like i feel like a small connection already to the product because i know the person and those companies get to say as seen on shark tank it doesn't hurt them no on the shelf do you ever worry that sometimes you're too much of a shark that if you get too good of a deal out of someone they're going to be resentful and maybe if their partnership won't work out as well well it's interesting i don't worry about that because in the end i bring a lot to the table i keep telling you know the best we do that deal on shark tank and then the due diligence starts and we're working with that team and that company and that ceo that was in the tank and we're trying to close the deal the first thing i do is i say look here's 30 other ceo's i've been working with for 10 years

why don't you call any number of them you want and ask them what it's like to work with mr wonderful and let them sell me to you i'm not going to do it i'm just telling i'm really good for you for a whole bunch of reasons but don't believe me talk to these ceo's they sell me and that's really how it works and i think most people that come into shark tank now know which shark they want to do a deal with you know i'm known for the wedding industry for example or the wine business or watches and all that kind of stuff or guitars and music things that i do and people know i do and that kind of leads you into a relationship with that person right out of the gate they don't tell you when they're standing there but you can after a couple of minutes you start

to say uh the skies wants to be part of the mr wonderful team of all our companies and he's probably gone online and checked out where my investments are and all that kind of stuff that's what happens you grew up with a mr wonderful poster hey some of them were seven years old and now they're in the tank pitching their stock that is crazy to think about it is crazy i mean you know i had hair when we started did you actually know i don't remember that is there a time when someone's walked in and you can tell that they're obviously gearing their pitch toward another shark for you know whatever reason if that's some specialty that they have or it's a product they know that well that's true that's a good point that might happen but you can win them over by

doing a better structure a better deal there's no guarantee of anything when you come in shark tank does that make you want it more if they're pitching it to somebody else the thing that i've learned that people should understand about shark tank you can have the best plan in the world you've been practicing your pitch you have a strategy you've got a deal you have a valuation you got your team you have your dancers all the crap that you come in with maybe you're dressed in a moose outfit who knows but you have no idea what's going to happen when they turn on those lights and the camera start rolling and the shit hits the fan some people pass out i've had that happen really yeah they're just standing in front of you the next thing you know they're on the floor

they just whoa like it's it's the real deal when you're in there those you're sitting in front of a bunch of multimillionaires that have all you know been successful in business and you think you know what you're going to say and you've been practicing it in front of the producers for months but then the real moment hits and poo poo happen and they ask a couple questions and then everything some of the pitches that were assumed were going to be the greatest or absolute shit and the most remarkably stupid ideas end up getting five bits yeah it's like potato parcel remember that a guy puts a puts your face on a potato and ships it to you i've made millions of that product really it's crazy yeah it's awesome product yeah i mean you know 29 95 you get a

potato with your face on it everybody needs one damn in fact you know i have this um youtube channel called ask mr wonderful and you should check it out because i get questions from all around the world and each week i answer maybe six or seven and it's all about the people that want to be on shark tank and the deals they see and the questions they ask about what it's like and how do you get casted and what do you got to do and what do you got to say that shows on in 34 countries that's nuts i just won something last month which i'm so proud of we won four emmies but and i'm very appreciative of those not to brag just a fact no no but just you know yeah this is a fact there's four four time anyway you know but it's a fact who's counting right who's counting

but the one that i really love is i got a phone call this is a global award villain of television top villain i'm so proud of that i had to beat out people from denmark and italy and france and germany and i'm the king villain that is a tough award you like being the bad guy i'm not the bad guy i'm just the guy tells the truth i was on a train recently from geneva switzerland to zurich and this austrian couple came up to me said we just got married yesterday we're on our honeymoon in switzerland can we get a picture with you you're the most hated man in austria i said yeah baby come on that's quite a title there it is yeah you know they love shark tank that's unbelievable all right okay i just got one last question i've always wondered this

maybe you can break it down to a point where it makes sense for us in our audience what's going on with delaware delaware yeah why is everything based in delaware oh you mean everything because it has like it has a long-standing corporate structure that is um a little easier to navigate through litigation because when you start a corporation you have to make the assumption that at some point somebody's going to sue you and it does happen most companies as they grow go through a massive amounts of litigation so if you're trying to protect your assets delaware law is better than many other jurisdictions so they have to sue you under the laws of the yeah where you're headquartered or where you're incorporated or if there's different layers of that structure

but delaware is is probably the most favorable and so that's why it's always you know oh you find out it's a delaware court but why can't why can't a company that's actually based out of new york i actually don't know new york laws but if the company has started somewhere outside of delaware how come they're allowed to be like yeah we're delaware well there's also tax considerations what's happened since trump got in over the last three and a half years is that now there's a competition between states people are leaving new york and moving to texas and florida or taking their company out of northern california in the valley and moving it to jacksonville florida to save 30 on coders and a whole lot more on tax and so now you've got this migration of capital

within the states all around the u.s. you know that's been fueled by this massive change in tax if you live in new york city you're paying over 50 percent in personal taxes it's crazy so people start to say gee i don't need this i want to go live in miami where it's real warm in the winter taxes are significantly less and i could fly to new york for 180 days a year if i want but yeah no one wants to play for the dolphins it's kind of weird well the dolphins as you boys know if you go to one of those games and i've been to many it's a weird vibe because many of the people that are there are actually cheering for the opposing team because that's where they come from so it's really a melting pot of fans and you know sure miami's there but most of the people in stadium are

not cheering for miami because they're not from miami transient city yeah it's a transient city mind you they did kick the patriot's ass this year and that was very troubling for me as a past fan i was very depressed on the outcome of those miami games for you look it's ridiculous let brady win one more super bowl please come on probably would have retired after this one you want to get rid of brady just let you know if we're gonna end on this one i think brady is going to give it one more shot but letting grill apple ago to san francisco your jimmy g guy i am i would have wanted him as although in that super bowl i must say i'm i'm taking 20 off retail on him he did not perform he had a mid and a half i said this is his moment to shine yep he did nothing he should

have taken the his own place he should have let his head rule him and decide look we're gonna go and and i i was really depressed at that he had to throw he missed that throw to a manual sanders that was it well you can't be forgiven for that no you cannot countries you re put to death for that there you go that's put it into perspective and then it gives you motivation to do a good yes yeah right and the world cup all right i got one last question seeky question promo code take you get ten dollars off go right now to seek geek how is rounder bum doing you can't believe how well that company's doing do you feel a little bit like you're deceiving the public so rounder bum for people who don't know is their shorts they're they're underwear their shirts they're male male

augmentation yes so makes your butt look bigger makes your front augmentation left or right yeah if you wish to really really look like you want to be a peacock you want to be a p your pp enhancement but don't you think that's bullshit so let's look at it this way you would have thought that that would really appeal um to a gay buyer right right we have lots of straight men buying that stuff i have friends that have called me said look i hang left can i get a little augmentation for the left side okay i'm saying really what about what about the rear end because you can get augmentation and a rounder bum at the same time you wear it right now no i'm not but i'm not your butt i am not listen i have a beautiful check this out show me that ass you look like you're wearing it

uh no you're not yeah you're not yeah yeah i can tell you how it is beautiful yeah all right so it worked out all right let me pitch something to you real quick but you ask me how sales are doing it's smoking hot really yeah one of my most successful companies because they i'll tell you something a story will blow your mind i get this phone call last year from the the but the underwear apparel buyer at macy's headquarters new york she says look you're that dude on shark tank with the rounder bum right i said yeah yeah why are you calling me we want that in our store we've got such demand from both gay and straight for something a little augmentative yeah in the heiny region a little extra look at what women have been doing for decades squats so now men are

doing the same thing and there i am a week later with the guys from rounder bum we've got all our augmentation products on the table and the buyer is choosing and we are now in macy's check it out that just shows you how much the world has changed if you want to look a little better on the front or a little rounder in the back go to macy's and get rounder bum okay so let me throw something out there for you on top of rounder bum we do a little situation where you can get smarter we give you a pair of glasses no prescription so you look smarter and maybe like a harvard business ring fake but you can wear it around and everyone's like damn is this guy really smart that's fraud the harvard was never seen the fake but no no no no no no no if you're just wearing

it it's no different i didn't put it in i went i just strapped it in the ring i like the hammock on your reaction howard hughes invented the padded bra and the world has never been the same right and i just invented the fake padded bra okay now men are using the same augmentation padded rounder bum augmented left or right it's all pads that's fair game but listen when a peacock struts out to me it blows out its wings and its feathers it says hey i'm here and i want to dance baby yep same thing with a rounder bum but what so where am i committing fraud if i have a harvard business ring right because you didn't go to harvard yeah but i didn't say i didn't have a nice ass either oh come on you say hey that's like wearing a superbowl ring you never played the

game you're full of shit well no i didn't say that i said i got a rounder bum i mean it's i'm just saying we've equalled the playing field if women women can have padded bras men can have padded high knees and everything's good and i'm proud to be part of it mr wonderful is bringing equality to the padded high knee okay i'm gonna get one i'm gonna have to and believe me people are gonna look at you a different way with that frontal left side baby you can't believe the comments you're gonna get you got any uh coupon codes just go to rounder bum go online check it out hey throw me a bone i get a royalty yeah that's true license yeah exactly all right mr wonderful kevin oliri thank you so much do you want a bench press no i'm not going to bother with

that you're probably i'm wearing my shark tank outfit check this very expensive tell me that's our tie no this is silk tie from you know no sell me that time i can't do that it's the only one in the world sell me that tie can't do it tell me how i should buy that tie i'm telling you know why you want it so badly because i told you it's the only one in the world and that's how i'm selling to you you're begging for it i don't wear it by the way you see this watch yeah you'll never see it again now you want it perfect no i don't want that watch this is one of the terrible i don't know is that a movement no i don't want it fp joran mvm maybe he's going to make 17 of them maybe i'm familiar with him now you really want it so you just walk around with

that watch to tell people i have one of the world's most eclectic watch collections i look for pieces that you'll never own ever i want to hear more about the stars rewards program for repeat buyers at rounder bum exactly you want to get rounder you want to get more bummy even rounder buy more and get them addicted to fake underwear no it's not fake underwear having a fake argumentative experiences that's what we call it okay so yeah because if a girl sees you once in the rounder bum you know the second time you see her you also have to wear it you have to just stock up no like stock what you should do is be the peacock go double layered for that second date read now you're crazy yeah that's crazy i just want to sell a second barrier all right

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pete that she won't be able to handle it if he sleeps with other women during their fantasy sweet dates however she says it's not an ultimatum that doesn't sound like one at all uh so she won't be able to handle it but he can do whatever he wants pete goes on his date with hannah and the and this is the first time uh i guess that they put all of the girls on their bachelor on the uh fantasy sweet week together so they're all living together so like after each girl went on their fantasy sweet date they went back and like were just in the mix with the other girls so they had like hang time with the other two girls in between dates i will say i watched this one last time it was like some of the funniest most awkward conversation you have ever seen in your life like

how'd it go and like uh good you know what i would do if i was hit and it was one of the girls victoria said it was uh productive hmm ah reproductive if i was hannah and the first one to go on this date i would walk back into their little fucksack apartment or whatever and i would absolutely be holding my shoes in my hand just sending a message just toss them onto the couch harrell mass smoking a cigarette you do the math uh so pete goes on his day with hannah and they spend the night in the fantasy sweet together pete goes on his day with victoria they spend the night in the fantasy sweet together so the producers set it up so that the girl that said i'm not giving ultimatum they made her go third during their date madison told tells pete that she's saving

herself from marriage pete then tells madison that he has been intimate with other girls madison leaves the table crying the episode ends and it is unclear if she's gone for good or not damn madison so madison is bruce pearl's daughter no it is assistant coach pearl's assistant coach's daughter we've had this conversation probably like six times this year um i feel like madison i don't madison was i don't want to say that she was basically it was like a trend put it the best way possible it's like in the normal world the problems that madison have where it's like hey we might be getting engaged next week i don't want you sleeping with other girls the week before we get engaged that is normal uh like a normal thought process but in the bachelor

cinematic universe like you know what you signed up for it's the bachelor right so to be like oh i don't i don't know if i'm comfortable with you like going on dates and hooking up with other girls but why not you're on the bachelor what are we doing right yeah why can't you make your own if you're so in love why can't you just establish like a new normal for the bachelor and say hey listen we're not having sex also i think the other thing that she didn't tell pete is that she was like i'll be mad but she didn't tell him that she's a virgin herself oh she didn't she didn't tell him that she no she didn't tell him that she was just saying we're exclusive right now but we haven't slept together yes it's that's honestly a ballsy move to say that we're exclusive sleeping with

each other when you haven't even reached that point like i kind of respect it almost so who you guys got henna and madison victoria i think he's going to go back to madison if she'll let him uh i'll go with henna and i don't know why i just keep saying it uh then the other only another i put this one in but they did like a little casting thing going into commercials and it's like if you're a senior looking for love like apply for casting at the bachelor like an old person or a high school senior mark santa on the bachelor i like that an old person people bachelor so yeah i don't know what jerry synefield is the bachelor it could go either way either a high school senior or someone who's 60 yeah uh all right so that's bachelor talk

thank you hank for watching you're welcome i know you don't like to watch but you did it for us appreciate that uh pr 101 baker mayfield we actually don't even need to do pr one of one for baker that guy in cleveland is just a fucking asshole tony grossie right way to go idiots i love that this so basically what happened was they were on a live hot mic uh looked like it was a stream um for the radio show and he called he was talking about wence other quarterbacks and then he said and all we got was a fucking midget that was a direct quote about baker mayfield while the mic was hot while the mic was hot okay so i feel like the rest of the world should take care of this work for us mm-hmm fire him fire no i don't want to get fired but uh no i mean demote him

yeah i don't want to give we're not trying to fire someone just for one mistake tell you what breaking moves from uh jake marsh oh he got suspended indefinitely suspended so he probably will get fired that seems i don't know he should be remorseful he probably shouldn't have done that but uh yeah it feels like a lot to fire someone over one fuck up but either way you did fuck up and we have bakers back but i don't even think we have to get bakers back because everyone's making fun of him online right now so grossie has fucked up not just this one time but several times okay comes to baker well i don't i don't have any history he is he is so you want him fired i don't want him calling for his hand i'm not calling for his hand canceling him i actually

think that it would be beneath baker to have a local sports talk dj fired yeah i don't i don't even think it's something the baker has i think i think what needs to happen is that uh he just is not allowed to talk anymore tony grossie tony grossie okay just like completely no more words ever when you step into the office okay so he lost your words privilege just do a radio show with no words he yeah someone else can talk for him i don't he has to sit in the room and listen to everybody else and not open his big trap there is nothing worse than um like beat riders local sports guys in any city in america who openly despise the the team that they cover like in an active hatred way where they're like fuck this team i want this team to lose i hate everyone on it

those guys are the worst they're the worst they're just miserable people it happens a lot in certain markets yeah but they're just miserable and they in and everything they say is just you know covered in that misery and it's so clear that this guy just hates baker mayfield wants him to fail for no other reason than he just wants him to fail he also hates us by the way oh he does this grossie guy all right then fucking fire a fire i don't care uh all right well we have a not to brag what we called it diante wilder his excuse for getting knocked out by tyson fury on saturday night was his legs were dead because he wore a 45 pound mask into the ring so pretty much exactly what we said on monday and saturday night the dude was gassed it wasn't just the

mask it was batteries that were associated to make it light up heavy ass batteries so he had like six batteries or whatever inside his cloak i feel like if you beat a man that wears that into the ring you should you should be allowed to wear his outfit out of the ring yeah but then he'd have a week then tyson fury would have weak legs just going to his locker room his party so it's fine it's like in a video game when you when you walk over body armor you automatically put it on if you beat somebody in a boxing ring you automatically acquire their their dress i like that and people were obviously upset because they're like wilders looking for an excuse i 100% believe this he's an idiot like he walked through the entire casino that he put on a 45 pound weighted vest before the

biggest fight of his life that's so stupid he did dynamic stretching we didn't even talk about the dynamic stretching when he was getting his legs bent behind his head like he was Hannah Ann he did a terrible job of getting ready for this fight whereas tyson fury again just didn't even walk it's a good lesson to be learned here yeah don't don't move unless it's absolutely necessary don't move until the moment you have to yeah look at look at animals for guidance on this look at the mighty grizzly bear they just sleep for what five months in a row and they are the kings of the jungle exactly and they can and when they're not hunting they're just scratching their back on a tree right so you do what the grizzly bear does and just chill out and then go the fuck off yeah vince

young uh all right oh talking soccer what did you have for talking soccer again there's a romanian club fcsb so it's in romania i guess this romanian ironically uh their coach is saying that they suck because they're fucking too much and so he's telling his players no no more sex move again not racism no shockingly so yeah i think we've mentioned soccer three times in this and no racism zero discussion about racism so good job set bladder good yeah you guys turning right around the whole thing once you guys crack down on the vd then uh there'll be nothing more to fix all right and that was talking soccer uh hank do you want to finish up here with guys on chicks sure uh quick uh t-bow update for you though he just went in y'all oh yeah really

our t-bow he looks like so fat though really yeah damn that's sad are you gonna start rooting for t-bow if he gets a chalk i mean might have i think he has to get legitimately fat uh he did get married so he's fat and happy now that's true all right what do we got for guys on chicks uh so for guys on chicks i actually asked the lady awls for some bridesmaid advice for pft oh yeah because he's getting his bridesmaid yeah uh so this will start with this one because this this this girl had me with an 11 point bullet list oh shit that's way too many points i can tell she's a terrible chain emailer when it comes to like setting up a bachelorette party 11 points of bridesmaid advice for pft you're not just a bridesmaid you're a personal shopper secretary and designated bag i'm none of

those i'm zero yeah no you gotta hold the bag number two secure the bag you aren't allowed to complain about your bridesmaid dress until the bride has first i already don't like mine and i haven't seen it okay e before the festivities so you don't get too trashed so you can help escort the bride to different bars well here's the thing it's the wedding's taking place at a denny's and i think the order of operations is we're getting served after the wedding so that's gonna be a little maybe bring like a little uh granola bar or something in your purse yeah maybe a little moons over my hammy just snuck into my cute little tote lipstick lip gloss patrol is all yours okay do you have to do it you have to have lipstick and lip gloss ready what's the difference i don't know the

difference between we put there one makes you look shiny and one makes you look red red yeah okay so it's just like the papa john skincare yeah right if a chatty dude won't leave the bride alone step in and take one for the team i got yeah no problem doing that a chatty dude talking to the to the bride yeah i'll just be like what's up bro yeah what's going on trying to fuck you try to smash listen i'm i'm gonna spread these cheeks uh as a favor to the bride here don't talk this is all caps don't talk about x's yep okay yep but don't talk about that at a wedding this is x's is going to be fighting the groom i feel like it's so probably come up in discussion at this particular wedding i'd agree i know i don't know if any of these are good at like these are these are hilarious

i'm just like i like reading don't fuck the the groom yeah don't talk about always check she's fucked okay always check bathroom stalls for party members before you say anything about anyone oh that actually is a good one because that's that is you the female bathroom you never know what's going on you never know who's sitting there taking a tinkle didn't panic at the disco write a song about that maybe like overhearing somebody at a wedding last two uh check with the bride before hooking up with one of her family members no and eleven if the dance floor is empty all caps fill it okay i'm a wedding guest i'll be honest i i'm like usually if i'm at a wedding i'm in the top five percent in terms of party starters there there we go all right so some other

uh some other advice as a four-time bridesmaid there's definitely pressure to hook up with one of the single groomsmen by serving as a bridesmen aren't you kind of a cock blocking the groomsmen absolutely or are you planning to take one for the team no i'm not hooking up with any of the groomsmen officially and then another person said put that hair up and proceed to suck and fuck everything with the pulse was that from a girl i i'm i guess i mean if you want to have fun we said chicks only in the tweet so okay so then yes it was definitely so you are you writing this down i feel like you're not writing any of this now i got to suck but then i didn't write the fuck part down uh no it's very important it's gonna be fun yeah it's gonna be fun i think that

like i said on monday's show wearing heels for me is gonna be huge yep although i already can't i can't wait to take them off because i've seen girls bring some flip flops yeah i'll bring yes some chocolates uh but yeah it's gonna be a good time wearing a dress out in vegas would uh anything else a couple guys on chicks ones uh my boyfriend and i have been dating for a little over three years and he has this awful trait of hiding all of his snacks for me i'm short so he routinely puts them on the top of the shelf where he knows i can't reach them even worse he would blatantly lie to me when i asked him if he has food which i discovered later when i find him eating the food that he said he didn't have smart should i be hiding my food and his food from him

or lie to him saying i don't have yeah no places put it in the lowest like cabinet yeah no i don't dude you think i'm getting like all the way down close to the floor if i'm hungry and there's no food i'm opening every cabinet he's got a bad back man he can't be doing i can't do you you put it low enough i'll just pass on it i would or i'll try to do the thing where you kick it to yourself i'll do that all the time what i would do if i were you is i would put them in the place that he won't look like uh and like put a candy bar in your tampons inside of a book yeah inside of a book is another good one or just like in your jar of coconut oil that you use for whatever it is that you use that we understand in the in yeah whatever he's the whatever chore he doesn't do

like if he doesn't take out the trash put it underneath the trash he's putting the vegetable drawer yeah if he doesn't do the laundry put it in the you know the dryer everything will work out and then when he does do laundry you'd be like hey you left all that chocolate in there you idiot yeah and i'll think it was him for sure mm-hmm all right last ones could get a little contentious hey boys especially daddy cat took two plus years with my fiance and i finally got in our first fight help us settle our argument who is the best camels chunky soup mom mrs mcnab or mrs davis oh i think it's mrs mcnab all the way yeah i don't even we don't know mrs davis did she say well davis yeah did she say who picked who no oh it's gotta be mrs mcnab it's mcnab

you guys are older so i know mrs davis was like before yeah mcnab but i only remember mrs mcnab yeah she was the best the great part about mrs mcnab chicken in this soup was that uh don't knock it off when she was doing the commercials that was like right when all the drama with mcnab and to was going down yeah it's like with baker when you cut to a commercial and like something's going on in the news with him and then he's also there in commercials just mcnab was everywhere for about two years so yeah mrs mcnab easy pass it down hopefully hopefully you won your argument with your uh i yeah i don't know someone won tell us if that i feel like the guy's got to be like a broncos fan who else is who who's arguing for he's gonna say right yeah right that's a weird thing

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