Pardon My Take - Skip Bayless In Studio, TNF, Playoff Baseball And Sad Max + Week 6 Picks and Preview
Episode Date: October 11, 2024The Niners are back and the Seahawks have problems (00:00:00-00:07:52). Playoff baseball and the Yankees advance after a benches clearing conversation. We have two game 5's and we recap the Phillies/M...ets and Max's bad buttcrack moment (00:07:52-00:28:29). NFL Week 6 picks and preview and a huge measuring stick game for the Commanders against the Ravens (00:28:29-01:30:48). Fantasy Lad boys and our best bets (01:30:48-01:41:23). Skip Bayless joins the show in studio to talk about his career in television, his relationship with Stephen A Smith and Shannon Sharpe, getting to supreme debate, some old takes, Tebow and more (01:41:23-02:57:53). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:57:53-03:12:50).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take
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On today's pardon my take, we have Skip Bayless in studio. Crazy. Never thought we'd see the day.
Skip.
Skip Bayless on the show. Got to the bottom of a lot of stuff with him. We also learned a new phrase that
Will be taking with us that I'm not gonna I'm gonna tease it not gonna say it
I'm a different man after I'm a different man after hearing it for sure. We're gonna talk Thursday night football
We're gonna talk playoff baseball
Is back
Max is back. Max is back.
Max is back.
Max.
We got week six picks and preview.
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Friday
October 11th and the 49ers are back they have won the must-win game in Seattle
Let's start with the 49ers Brock Purdy's just good. Well, Brock Purdy is also never lost to the Seahawks. I believe he's now five and oh against
Seattle. That's a great stat. Seattle turned into like little mini San Francisco tonight.
A lot of red in the stands. Yeah, 49ers jerseys. And, and there are two 49ers wives that were
sent in front row. Yeah, Kyle Ushek and Kyle Ushek's wife and George Kittle's wife. And they were able to, we had a double Kittle and a Ushek touchdown.
Yeah, we had double Kittle and, uh,
and they both did the Lambeau leap into their wives arms.
It was awesome.
And then Ushek scored the fullback touchdown at the very end,
which was awesome to see. And then he goes up,
he does another leap to is what kind of a simple move jumping twice for your
wife. Love it.
Kyle loves his wife jumps into her arms and then he he gave her a kiss through his
face mask love that you've never seen before that's like getting in a fight
with a helmet on throwing a punch at someone with a face mask yeah same as
kissing do you think you ever done it with the NFL player yeah yeah an NFL
player yes well wearing their respect let's respect our friends yeah an NFL player. Yes while wearing their respect. Let's respect our friends. Yeah. Yeah NFL player
For sure for sure
Absolutely, but Antonio Brown for sure for sure for sure for sure probably still to this day. Yeah, Brock Purdy's just good
Yeah, he is. He's he has wheels. He's moving around. He's throwing guys open. Yeah, he's good
I just hope that Kyle doesn't start doing the thing where it's just all Brock pretty all the time
well, they they had to cuz Jordan Mason obviously got hurt tonight, he was having a hell of a game and
Yeah, I mean the 49ers are good. I wasn't worried about the 49ers. I am worried about the Seahawks. I think their defense
Has problems and it's got injuries, but it's also got problems and it feels like
three weeks in a row we've just watched the same Seahawks game where they're down and
Gino is trying desperately to get them back in it that pick he threw that basically ended
the game that was tough and yeah it's just the Seahawks are just in this spot every like
if you just turn on the fourth quarter of a Seahawks game They're down anywhere between five and and twelve points and Gino is desperately trying to get the ball down the field
Yeah, I think when we said that that was a statement loss that they had to the Lions and Monday Night Football
I think the statement was just like I think we should quit on the season
Yeah, they've they've looked like a completely different team the last couple weeks. Yeah, and again, they do have a bunch of injuries
I do love those uniforms though whenever they put on these uniforms and like man this yeah, this is so much fun
That's a uniform. They should keep they just wear that all the time
Even changing the logo. I love when teams change the logo. I thought the best middle of the field the throwback was awesome
I love the the old-school Seahawks logo, but the old school Seahawks font is awesome
too. It's like 1980s. You see that font and you're like, I am in the 80s. That's Steve Largen out
there. Yeah. So as much hand wringing as there was about the 49ers start, they are on top of the
NFC West and maybe getting Christian back, maybe getting Christian back. So what was the vague
report? Let's go to our big matchup next week against the Chiefs, the 49ers. That's going to be fun. What are
the walls say? I don't know what the walls are saying. The walls said that after week
six will probably know. Um, but on the broadcast they said that they talked to Kyle and they
were hoping, you know, three or four weeks maybe, but they're not sure. And that's what
the walls, the walls injury like that with the calf and the hit he said they went
out with a calf injury week 17 last week you can you know figure out the calf and
Achilles are close you just never know what that very vague updated report of
like they're hoping for four to five weeks but anything could happen so I'm
confused or even retired did the walls talk to Shanahan or did the walls talk to a different?
So a different person. It's the original walls the walls haven't haven't changed anything from the original
Reporting current was this walls in Tiananmen Square
No, no the protest. No, okay. All right
The 49ers ran the ball fucking down their throat. I know that it's a little inflated
from that last run by Garendo but 6.9 yards per carry. 228 yards is that's that's that's
bully ball. Yeah, it is. Yeah. And Jordan Mason was gonna I mean, Jordan Mason was on
pace. He had nine carries for 73 yards. Niners got a lot of weird injuries again tonight
though. They had Jordan Mason with a shoulder. I think should have with a P. Got it up at at halftime tried to play played one play
I believe it was like nope. I shouldn't be playing football with whatever it is
I have and then what was Kittle a pee. Yeah. Oh, he had to pee. Yeah, yeah to just piss your pants. Yeah
Come on, George. Yeah, Deebo. Yeah with the stinger Deebo with the stinger shaking his hand out
And then some offensive lineman and they also lost another kicker and
Their kicker is a backup kicker. Oh, that was the kicker. Not yeah, that was the kicker. Not the puncher
Yeah, yeah the kicker at the end. So now they're they got to go find another kicker again get Janikowski back out there
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Can't get the big polo. He could fucking kick
Yeah, he was he was the he was the original I can kick it from anywhere guy get dog get Doug Flutie
Doing some drop kicks out there. What uh, I'm trying to think who which team has a good kicker that's not playing
Well, I guess those kind of don't go together
But like what would do would it get the Cowboys lose?
Cowboys start losing when they trade Aubrey for like a third rounder dicker dickers kicker good dick. Good dicker up there. Get ticker the kicker.
That was enough football talk. We got more football talk coming up with NFL week six picks
and preview. Let's talk some playoff baseball. You know what, let's talk about the other series
first. The Yankees advance. So we have maybe we were the problem with New York City boys because Monday is shaping up to be an all-time city
Day in New York City you got the Mets at four o'clock you have the Yankees at seven o'clock
And then you have the Jets playing the Bills both New York City teams kind of New York State and then New Jersey
Playing at 815. It's the center of the world. Yeah, finally. Finally,
ESPN. Finally, Stephen A Smith can can say who he's rooting for. Yeah, it's gonna be
fun I guess if you're a New Yorker. For everybody else, we're gonna be like, okay, enough New
York. Yeah, but it hasn't happened in a while. It hasn't happened in a while. The Liberty,
they're not playing right on Monday. I don't know if they're playing on Monday. Also, I
we talked about pinstripes. I think John
Carlo gets his pinstripes for this series alone. He basically staved off the Royals
and was like, Nope, it's not going to end now. Because he was he was awesome. The last
two games in Kansas City. And we also had the rare, the rare liberty. what is that game three Wednesday Sunday Sunday? Uh
We had the rare benches clearing conversation
That was cool. I didn't see that part. Yeah, they had a bench is clearing conversation. I liked I
Just they just talked I did anybody come out of the dugouts. Ah, yes. Okay, did they sprint out of the dugout? I it was kind of like a bullpen. Oh, yeah, I meant to say bullpen I don't think the bullpen I think it was the dugouts. So it was benches clearing
conversation it was a bang bang play at second base and they just they were like hey, that's wrong and
Then another guy came out and said hold on. Wait a second. You don't say that to my teammate
You're wrong. And then they all just stood around
Just talked it out it's back to it was very funny I like the benches clearing conversation just
everyone had to get in on the conversation I mean watch a lot of old school like 80s baseball
clips recently yeah it was a different sport at second oh yeah yeah I mean it wasn't even
it wasn't even like a dangerous play or anything it was was just kind of like, Hey guys, let's all
come out and have a conversation real quick. Yeah. I think that guy even said my bad. It's
okay. Yeah. The bullpen came out. The bullpen. I love it when the bullpen catchers get up
and sprint out onto the field. They just sprinted to have more of a conversation. Then they
sprint onto the field. Then they stand at the back of the big crowd. There wasn't even
really a shove thrown. Like it was sometimes you'll get like chest to chest
Looking like our friend Jimmy Tatro when they have the fights in Real Bros
We didn't even really get that just a nice little conversation like somebody said the f-word
Yeah, and now it's like okay
We all have to come out here and say the f-word and then the other two series we have game five for both
Which I'm very excited for Padres you Darvish
Going to back to LA
That's gonna be a great game. Do we know who's starting for the Dodgers yet?
I was not up earlier when I checked I'll check again
It was not up and then I am I know college football Saturday is loaded loaded slate and it's gonna be great
I'm so excited for scoobal to pitch game five. Yeah, it's gonna be great. I'm so excited for Scoobel to pitch game five.
Yeah, that's gonna be great. But that's his moment with the Padres game. I like the new
wrinkle that's been added to it because we talked about Ken Rosenthal's column where he called,
let's see, what'd he say? He was a dancing strutting peacock. We're talking about Fernando
Tatis. And then he said that jerks and profars the kid that pulls a fire alarm
Yeah, and acts like it's a joke again that kid's awesome. And then the Padres were like well guess what Ken Rosenthal?
We're not gonna do weird bowtie interviews during the games love that so we've got a big J verse
MLB team beef going on right now. I love I'm also just excited to see the Padres go back to LA
Yeah, it's everybody off. Yeah, and it's uh, we also have it
It happens every October people being like why are they why are they drinking champagne after winning one series?
I love the celebrations. I always are meant for the celebrations. You need to drink after every single series
Yeah, I'm as a hundred sixty two games general thumb if you're allowed to get drunk at work. You should get drunk at work
Yeah, it's fun
So two game fives so excited to see scubal
Pitch because that's just like everything I expect and know from scubal
He's gonna he's gonna he's gonna fucking be a haus. He's gonna be a give me the ball for the whole whole game
But that's gonna be great. Nothing better than a couple game fives
we also had the Phillies in the Mets series
and Max is back.
Max, do you have something for us?
Phillies lost the game. They looked like shit. It's exact
same thing that went on from 2009 to 2011 of the Phillies lost the game. They looked like shit. It's exact same thing that
Went on from 2009 to 2011 of the Phillies and then they had ten years of nothingness
So it looks like it's gonna be a lot of the same that team won a World Series
I said 2009 to 2000 I know but that they won a World Series in 2008
I know but that tea I'm saying that team had won a World Series. I
Said 2009 2009. They was they went to the world to 2019 to know in a world
I'm saying that team had won a World Series the guys on that team from 2009 to 2011 had won a World Series correct
But 2009 they went to the World Series lost 2010. They went to the NLCS lost
2011 they went to the NLDS lost right, They went to the NLDS lost. Right.
But you see what I'm saying.
But what I am saying, yes, it is the same.
Like they had they had a like the 2009 2011 stretch like they had done something.
They'd earned something.
Yeah.
In 2008, they they had something.
Yeah, but that carries over.
But that's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying what I'm saying is that like it is just a downhill spiral got it
The guys know World Series, right? Yeah
What makes this even worse is the fact that at that first World Series you thought yourself like this team is built to win
a World Series at some point and then the other weird part about it is
2011 was supposed to be the best team of them all and then they had the best record. This is the best record of
This little stretch. It's the same thing. The guys are getting older and you didn't win a World Series didn't win a World Series
So many people just didn't show up
It's the same thing of last year is like one game. They can't carry over momentum from one game to the next
You got screwed pen is insane
The bullpen was had like was a top five bullpen in baseball this year
All of a sudden we get to the postseason. They pretend like they don't know what a pitch
Jt real mutuals have a single hit in the entire postseason Trey Turner. It's 200
Kyle Schwab er after his first home run. He gets one bloop single other than that nothing
What did you say?
What did you say after you hit that home run?
You know what I don't give a fuck. I don't take it back at all. I love that
like you should every like if you're scared to
Agree to be excited over a yes over a lead-off Homer against the fucking Mets
Yeah, the only person in that room
Yeah, I was outnumbered and I tried and I tried to call my shot and I missed I don't give a fuck max
Yes, I'm 100% on your side
There's nothing worse than what's happened in this culture these days of the old takes exposed in the middle of a game
Because you're rooting for a team or rooting for a game and commenting it in the middle of a game That's're rooting for a team or rooting for a game and commenting
it in the middle of a game. That's just what fans do. They root for their team. You shouldn't
have to apologize for it. Yeah, no, I don't. Did it go poorly after that? Yeah. But that
shouldn't be an apology. Yeah. And it was war like in the moment it was like holy shit.
Lead off batter bomb. We have our
ace on the mound. We're not the Brewers mentally tough. And also Brewers fans being like oh
we we fought them. You did the same fucking thing that we did. You're like because I kept
saying like we're not we're not the Brewers and they're like yeah you're not the Brewers.
We at least gave them a harder fight. Like what the fuck does that mean. You lost we
lost. Also you know what you say to Brewersers fans we at least won a World Series in 2008. Facts. Yeah. And
we would beat the shit out of the room. Yeah you were. That's the worst part. And the Mets
are too fucking good. They're really fucking good. They are a team of destiny. And I've
said it and I'll say it again. Oh my. The only thing that I'm rooting for in this baseball
season is Mets Yankees and the Yankees to beat the absolute fuck out of the Mets.
Because that's the only way that Mets fans will be upset at the end at the end of this
run.
Would you rather a sweep or a loss in game seven?
You want sweep.
I want sweep.
You want sweep.
I want them to be like reminded that they're little brother.
Would game seven be maximized, maximum pain?
No.
Because then they'll be, they can build off of that.
Bet it. Bet Yankees, sweepets. Those bright crazy odds on traffic.
Then it won't, what Yankees fans should be upset that this is what I want to happen because
it won't happen. You don't get the things you want to happen
to happen. And Max, you had a tweet yesterday last night
after it was over. You said, I may have to quit this company I keep thinking I can't have worse losses on stream and then they just keep happening
Yeah, so like the Mets factor of it was like they're just and they just get every clutch hit
But you're not you're not quitting and oh my god if that yeah. Oh, yeah
My god fans if that foul ball happened. I had every
Mets fan. You can see the strike zone in today's baseball watching experience. They show you
where the strike zone is. They still complain about pitches that are outside of that strike
zone being called balls. I was fighting with that then the entire week and I was like, it's outside of the zone, you can see the zone.
Mets fans suck, you guys fucking suck.
Alright, so you just turned to memes when you said that,
you did block memes on Twitter last night.
He was doing too many memes and I was in a bad spot last night.
That's fair, that's fair.
I was in a bad spot and I was looking at too many memes.
I appreciate the fact that you blocked him not because he was tweeting at you, not because
he was tagging you.
It's too many memes.
You just didn't want to see his memes on the timeline.
I'm with you on all of this, Max, by the way.
I unblocked him in the morning.
I just, last night I was, it's good we're talking about this now.
Last night I was in a very bad spot.
Yes.
Not having to talk, yes, getting a little bit of time is good and you in that moment, it's the worst. I
was like, yes, you should block him. He's memes-ing too much. He was doing a lot of
memes.
Wait memes, did you follow him back after he unblocked you? Because when you block someone,
you don't follow them anymore.
I don't think so, but I'll go do it right now.
That's nice. See?
This is good peace treaty
Yeah, I like this a lot
So max you were not taking back saying that correct looking at you when I said you guys fucking suck
You were actually very respectful during this during this whole run. Yeah quitting or not
Not quitting. I'm not good. I never said that I was quitting
I said I may I may have and then every Philly fan in my replies are just like please quit please quit
That's mean Max. We love you. We missed you. I felt bad for you. I really did
Do you want to address?
The butt crack not just the butt crack
The torn underwear those are like it was like a five dollar pair of underwear
It was like an old pair of honor where I thought would bring good luck
Okay, so can we put that clip into the know can we put that now we pull that clip?
I was actually so pissed off about that. Yeah what no we're not in it
Why because YouTube no no, but it will put in the rumble no come on put the show us the clip pull it
No, no why there's zero chance
I would I mean can you pull it up nope? I didn't even know there's a there's a picture of his ripped underwear
Yeah, so what is it about this underwear? That's so ripped. There's a massive hole kind of max come on
The people want to see it everyone has old under old fucking underwear
I just know what else is fat that you get to fucking see it when you stand up, but why is it?
Why is it your lucky underwear? I don't know. It was just
Go pull it up the people have to see it no max. It's for the AWL stuff for you. It's no than you no I
There's no chance
I had that I was so pissed off that like our own accounts were fucking tweeting that last night like I went through so much fucking shit
in that room
That's why you were there for my fucking asshole
I mean you understand that's where you draw in the line if you're on a live stream and
you're getting mad and your underwear pops out and you got a hole in it do you think
people are not going to click that?
There's so much other shit that was going on in there I got fucking smoked in the head
by a fucking by another asshole and more people are talking about my fucking butt crack
Holy shit
Fucking ass crack that comes out
Jesus Christ
It was partially the ass partially the rip in
the rip in the underwear. It was the rip. It was also the face that you had right, right before you hit the camera out of Dukes and the face. I just like things you fucking ass.
The face that you had, it was just like pure things. You see see it was like a road rage video
I also love the idea of big J's listening to this podcast to see what skip a listen
Yeah, they're sitting through max
All right, I gotta I gotta watch the video just so I can really guys so oh my god
I love you so much max max. I I'm very upset though because I didn't see any of the overalls
Max, I'm very upset though, because I didn't see any of the overalls. You had lucky overalls.
You had brand new overalls.
Yeah, no, I thought about it a lot and I just kept going back to remembering how I felt
in the old overalls and I was like, I can't have this again.
I can't have this.
It was such bad vibes the first time why would I rewind the bad vibes
Better or worse vibes, and you felt seeing everyone talking about your asshole
Can I just can we watch the video?
That that's great you can watch it right there. I'm watching it
I'm watching it too the face that he does is just the best face
I want to get a frame and you're sitting you're sitting babies baby mode on the ground I'm watching it. I'm watching it too. The face that he does is just the best face. I
want to get a frame and you're sitting you're sitting baby baby mode on the ground.
Fucking camera out of my face. Did you damage that camera. It was Duke's
phone and I apologize to him right after. So like when I get people who think that this shit's an ag it's just
it fucking it just happens it's not yeah and it was a fair ball it was you're
right true you were right on that like it was a justified explosion all right so All right, so Max, where do we go from here? You got a chain.
You got it.
The underwear would be a good first.
I mean, kind of the whole point of wearing overalls is that they go over all including
your uncle.
We have to we have to move on from this.
It was what did you did you did you break the chair?
No, I just like slammed it. Did you know did you know in the moment that that your butt crack was out?
I will not be addressing
Max you know what phase the moon was in last night. I love that we were
Do you know what phase the moon was in last night? I love that we were
Planning on like organically we're gonna talk about it. We knew that Max is getting upset at some point I thought it was gonna be just about the Phillies feeble effort little did we know it was about his ass crack
He didn't think he was gonna have to address the ass crack. Listen Max has has the headphones off right now
So I will say I think I think that's is right
I think I think he's
100% correct
What I think he I think he's right about what about the future of the Phillies like yeah, no no he's right
This is they don't have a world sir. Yeah, this feels like it's you know
We can we can try to turn the page on this chapter the Phillies right now
Memes
I'll say this max the ass crack was not the highlight of the video the video I know I'm just gonna say to him No, anyway, the highlight of the video was your face
Memes how happy are you? Yeah memes Congrats. I'm excited
This is one of those runs. What is he doing right now? He is on Twitter. I saw a picture of the Rizzler. Okay. Timeline cleanse. He's taking a timeout. All
right, he's back. He's back. This makes all the shitty years
of watching worth it. This type of run. Yeah, it happened in
2015. It's kind of happening now
Just every time you take their out they just something special happened. I know people don't want uh
Like it's hard from a national perspective to root for the Mets or be like, oh, I'm happy for the Mets I am happy for the Mets Mets fans are tortured. I don't know he take it off again
Yeah, no, I would you rather be talking about Mets fans being tortured or the ass crack max
No, he take it off again. Yeah. No, I would you rather me talk about Mets fans being tortured or the ass crack max
What is he looking at now continue, okay, they are they're tortured they're a torture fan base So it is it's fun to see them have this run and it seems like
There's just something about playoff baseball. They have just every big hit every big out. They got some magic. What's going on?
There's definitely some magic going on remiss They got you got grimmies and also shout out to all the fans that show up to baseball games wearing the full-on grimace outfits
Yeah, I know they're the knockoff grimace outfits. I don't think that they're actually McDonald's. I think they're like party city grimaces
That's got to be a very inconvenient way to watch baseball game. Yeah, those mascot eyes, but they're doing it. They've got grimace
They've got they've got the song memes has that song go? Oh my god. We had the gay Mets to what's that? We just didn't lose in June. Oh, the gay Mets. Okay, got it. The game met OMG Mets Seymour wiener. He was at opening day. The game met. Yeah. And Jorge Lopez happened this year when he threw his glove into the stand and said,
I'm on the worst team in the league.
And they were 22 and 35 at that point.
And then turned the season around at that point.
And Hawk Tooe.
This is kind of crazy because like, Steve Cohen, the owner, this team isn't really, does he
have his fingerprints all over it?
Or is it kind of like just magic in a bottle where it got the team got
Forced into this weird set of circumstances where this is your starting light now, and they all kind of caught fire at the same time I
Will say they all caught fire at the same time because there's a lot of expiring contracts on this team
It was kind of glued together. Yeah, and half of our salaries down in Texas with the Rangers
and half of our salaries down in Texas with the Rangers.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That was the end of the sentence. Okay.
Yeah. That was the end of the sentence.
We don't work on periods.
Yep.
Max, let's finish it before we get to picture preview.
It's, it's going to get better.
You're, we love you.
It's going to get better.
It's going to get better.
Yeah. Whatever.
Hank, tell them it's going to get better. It's going to get better. It's going to get better. Yeah, whatever Hank tell him it's gonna get better. It's gonna get better. It's gonna get better
But how mad are you at Hank right now max? I was rooting for the Phillies. I actually I I don't give a fuck
As you shouldn't so is that a very mad at me no, I just
Let's get the picks and previews. Yeah, let's get the picks and previews.
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We're ready to go. I feel good. We have a good, a good even slate of the early game. Obviously bears Jaguars and we're going then we have six, I believe, then
four, then one. We also have a good slate of buys this weekend. I like it when it's
very evenly split between good teams and bad teams in the bye week. So this week
we've got the Chiefs on a buy, Rams on a buy, Dolphins on a buy, and the Vikings on
a buy. The Rams won the bye week. Yeah. They're the bye week winners. Chiefs, I
mean, we just keep forgetting the Chiefs. Never count out Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, 5-0 and just
rolling. Yeah. If the Royals somehow do some work during the bye week, then I will say that Patrick
Mahomes and the Chiefs have won the bye week.
Yeah.
But yeah, the Rams needed this bye.
Getting healthy.
Yes, they did.
Big time.
All right, so let's get into some games.
We need a bye from the Dolphins too.
Yeah, absolutely.
That would be fine if they just didn't come back.
Yeah.
How long would it take you to notice?
It would be at least a week.
I think I could go a week
I think maybe when Tua comes back
Wait, there are certain teams that go on the by and I forget that they exist that happened with the Titans and the Chargers this
Week you have to remember the Titans the Titans you gotta remember the Titans
But yeah, the Dolphins didn't play next week either. I don't think I would fully realize it for another week
Yeah, and then I'd be like, oh shit
Because they're just it's not even like a,
you can't even make the fantasy argument
because all those guys stink now without Tua.
Yeah, so this is, I think this is goodbye week.
Yeah, goodbye week.
Okay, let's get it going.
Jaguars at Bears in London.
The Jaguars, hopefully everyone's okay from Hurricane Milton,
have some, I think they were delayed by a little bit.
So they usually go Thursday, Bears went on Monday. I think Jaguars are ended up going on or are going
to go later on Thursday. This is a must win for the Bears. I would say so. Yeah, you got
to this is this the meat of your schedule, right? This is the this is the you got to
make some hay time got to dive into that meat right now. I do think the Bears defense will give Trevor Lawrence some issues.
I also, I don't know if you guys agree with this, but there's something about like there's
teams when the urgency when they're when they haven't won a football game, the urgency gets
really high.
They win the game.
Doug Peterson said it himself.
There's a weight off our shoulders.
Now I'm in.
Yeah, I think go against you.
Doug Peterson is he's like black and white when it comes to lying and telling the truth.
Yeah, I think anything that Doug Peterson says before a game that week is a lie.
Everything that he says after the game is usually the truth.
Yes.
Yes.
And so this week, except for again, the good conversations, good conversations and before and after games.
Well, maybe it was a good conversation. The fact that they had a conversation. Yeah.
And it's important to communicate with people. That's true.
So this week, I think he's lying about Tank Bigsby.
Okay, because Tank Bigsby has outperformed ATN at running back and they're asking him.
Well, are you going to give more carries? He's like, no, he just had a good game.
Like that's how this league works. You don't just's like, no, he just had a good game. Like that's how this league works.
You don't just give a guy more carries because they had a good game.
That actually is usually how football works.
Yeah. If your friend plays well, then you give him more carries.
So I have a feeling that he's lying about that.
I am a little nervous about Tank Bigsby and Etienne because if you there's one
thing the Bears defense could get a little better on is run defense at times.
But I must win
Calebs looked better and better
Must win can't lose the Jaguars can't lose it can't let the Jaguars win their game next week
I have a stat for you PFT from bet labs. That's really good
Speaking of the like weight off your shoulders after a win and when you get deeper into the season you in your you're winless
So teams in week six or later coming off their first straight-up win of the season are
45 and 82 straight up so 35% in their next game. Okay, this is obviously a two-point line
So yeah, they could cover and lose straight up, but it there's something to be said behind
The feeling of oh we won one we can have a sigh of relief
We're okay also because a team that waits that long to get their first one usually isn't that great?
No, definitely not definitely not so I you know
I don't think the Jaguars are very good and I would be a very sad boy if the Bears lose this game because again
It's a must-win. It is a must-win. You got it. You have to stack your wins now. Yeah, so
Yeah, I remember the first game that,
that I went to here in Chicago. You remember that we went to the fairs Jaguars game and
it was rainy. It was shitty. We did. You were in a, you, you were in a wheelchair. We did
a, uh, we did a preview of the game in a porta potty. I think we were vaping in the porta
potty. Yep. A hot box to porta potty with Uncle Chaps, that might've been one of the worst
NFL games ever to go to.
That was a pretty tough one.
I would put that one right up there
with that Jets Broncos game that we saw earlier this year.
Yes.
People will ask me like,
oh, have you ever been to a game at Soldier?
And I tell them that story.
I'm like, yeah, it makes me never wanna go back.
If we had the worst seats, I think we intentionally
made it the worst experience possible.
Yeah, we did.
We were doing that as like kind of a bit,
but like it was two not good teams.
And yeah, you were in a wheelchair.
I was in a wheelchair at the time.
Yeah, that was because we had gone to the NLCS the night before and you walked and further
broke your foot.
But my foot got more broken.
Well, and then they dug into it and they didn't discover a fracture once they did the surgery.
But it was pretty much it was pretty much broken.
It was basically a broken foot.
But yeah, I think I agree with the big cat. This is a must win they did the surgery. But it was pretty much broken. It was pretty much broken. It was basically a broken foot. But yeah, I think I agree with the big cat.
This is a must win week for the Bears.
Jaguars defense is bad too.
Their offensive line didn't look bad last week though.
They looked good last week in fact, the Jaguars.
Yeah.
They have some guys.
They got some guys and also Trayvon Walker, the most forgotten number one overall pick
of all time.
He had a big week last week week too. So, um,
their defensive line can get at it. But again, I like, I like the bears this weekend.
I'm with you on that one. Um,
there was a little bit of an update to the Tom Brady acquisition story from the
bears. So the McCasky family confirmed it. They're like, yeah,
we were in the beginning stages of conversation or we got it.
We wanted to be in the conversation for Tom Brady,
but you remember what the outcome of
that of not getting Tom Brady was you guys got Nick Foles.
Yes. Also Jaguars legend. Yes. Nick Foles and Andy Dalton
later and yeah, yeah, it all worked out a lot of domino. It
all worked out. It all worked out. Okay, going into the
regular slate. Cardinals, by the way, just as as an aside I hate the having your team
play in the London game because not only is it like because the usually the 830
game I will I'll watch on my phone half watch trying to spend some time with the
family like I'm aware of what's going on but I'm not like fully fully glued in
because I know that it's a long Sunday if I'm like, obviously this one I'm fully glued in and this is a complete like the risk of losing this game and then
having to just sit there all day all day. It's similar to playing the first game on
Thursday of March Madness. If you lose that it's so disastrous. If you win it, it's free
free football for the rest of the day. It's great day. Yeah. But I don't like I don't like having that if you lose it. You might also people
might just forget about that over the course of the day. Yeah. But it just sticks in the
back of your head. You're like, God damn it. How we lose that game. So got to win this
game. You know, last Sunday, I think it was statistically the longest NFL day ever because
you have the London game and the rain delay at the night game. Yeah. So it was the longest
day of NFL football we've ever had. Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cardinals and Packers.
Cardinals, awful win.
Packers, they're good.
Jordan Love, is he fully healthy?
Here's what I think will happen in this game.
I think the Packers are going to win.
I think they're going to win semi-easy.
And I think it's going to be because Jordan Love has gotten healthier and
Is gonna stop being in shotgun every single possession every single snap. Okay, that makes as he's good at play action
I think that's the last step of the Packers offense coming back and they also you saw it on Sunday
They were getting the tight end involved. They're gonna run the ball. I just the Cardinals defense is
They're going to run the ball. I just, the Cardinals defenses,
they played great in the second half against the 49ers,
but I just like a team that comes off a huge, huge win has to travel.
I'm going to, I'm going to go against that team.
Yeah. I think Jordan loves getting better.
He got better over the course of the last game. He's been doing that in every game. Yeah. So he did the first time, first game he came back.
It was three bad quarters, one good quarter. This time it was two bad quarters, two good quarters. So you'd bad quarters one good quarter this time. It was two bad quarters two good quarters
So you'd assume just one bad quarter this time. Yeah, so he they went down
14 to 7 after that hilarious interception. Yeah, they're like slapstick interception and then he completed 12 of his next 13 passes
Yeah, right after that Dobbs. I believe is back which sounds weird. Yeah, so what's going on with Dobbs Dobbs from my understanding
He skipped practice which that fucking rocks weird. Yeah. So what's going on with Dobbs? Dobbs from my understanding, he skipped practice,
which that fucking rocks in the NFL to just skip practice. Yeah.
That's something straight out of high school where you're like,
I don't feel like it or my buddies are going to go smoke by the steps.
So I'm just not going to go to practice.
It's like a very high school thing to just be like, um, you know what? Fuck it.
Yeah, I'm not calling. I'm not going to work.
I don't know what's going on because it feels like there might be something mental health
I don't know because they had to go check on him to make sure everything was okay
And then what he got he got suspended for one game. Yeah, it by that by the team
So maybe he's back and okay. I don't know in Christian Watson possibly. I thought I saw a
Saw Christian Watson saying something good about Dobbs. No, I'm sick
We're glad to have him back Christian Watson might play
Oh, yeah, he did Christian Watson came to his defense and Christian Watson returned to practice
Okay, so the Packers could be getting a lot healthier better. I think you're gonna get
Barring the weather a Packers offensive explosion because I feel like you're the same way as I am about this type of stuff. But has there
ever been a game that you've watched between two teams and then that that game stays in
your memory for so long that it affects how you see all the other matchups. You're talking
about the shootout. I'm talking about the shootout. The shootout. So I'm expecting a
lot of points in this game. Yeah, because of that playoff shootout. Was it Kurt Warner
against Rod Rogers? Yeah. And that was one of the coolest games that I've ever watched
was just points, points, points. Yeah, it's like 4948 or something. Yeah, and that was one of the coolest games that I've ever watched was just points points points
Yeah, it's like 49 48 or something. Yes, you know what the final score when I see these two uniforms on the field at the same
Time I just my my brain goes back to that game
Yeah, and I expect there to be a lot of points wait not that one. Wait was it 26 20?
Why did my oh, I think they play the playoffs, right?
There's a playoff game between Packers. Oh, yeah, 51 45. Yeah, there it is. There it is 51 45
Yeah, that was the shootout game. That was the crazy game. Yeah, so I see these colors on the field at the same time
I agree and I'm like, okay, it's gonna be a points factory
Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's any others that I can think of off the top of my head. Oh, I guess chiefs Rams.
Yeah, from that Monday night.
Yeah, that one's a good one.
That was a great one.
Chiefs Rams.
I mean, Jags Titans, but I'm always right about that one.
Bengals bills for a different reason.
Yep, I just expect someone to need CPR.
In my head, it does.
Praise for tomorrow.
Um, that that's just a fact uh yeah that's
good point I didn't I didn't think about it but you're right you're right
points and it's not this weekend but it's next that Call of Duty comes out
right yeah and Kyler I mean credit to Kyler for doing a Call of Duty commercial
for doing an advert I gotta lean into it lean into it gotta lean into it. Gotta lean into it. Gotta lean into it. Okay, next up, Commanders at Ravens, PFT.
Yes.
This is a very big game.
Yes.
This is a measuring stick game.
I like that.
I like measuring stick.
I've seen people saying passing of the torch game.
No, I think it's a measuring stick.
It's not a-
It could be a passing of the torch game in retrospect,
but I think going into it, like, it could be, we could look five years from now and be like, that was a passing of the torch game in retrospect, but I think going into it, like, yeah, it could be,
we could look five years from now and be like, that was a passing the torch game. I think going
into it, it has to be measuring. Yeah. So pass it. People are talking about passing the torch. Is
this the week that Lamar Jackson finally surpasses Jayden Daniels as the better scrambling and
passing quarterback? I think it's too early to say that. Okay. I like the measuring stick game.
I'm still dealing with my PTSD, my post-traumatic Snyder disorder, where I still feel like going
into every single week. This is the week that it all falls apart. Yeah. I do think that the Raven's
offense is the best in the league. Yeah. It's the best in the league. Our defense, I don't,
I don't think that what we saw for the last two weeks can be expected to be the, the defense that
we're going to see moving forward, but I don't think we're going to be as bad as we were in week one. Yeah. And
I'll be, I'll be okay with that. Like this is a game, this is a potential statement loss for the
commanders this weekend. It's an interesting game because the commanders as great as Jaden Daniels
has been, and he's been great. A lot of their offense, uh, working has been the run game being
so effective and the Ravens, uh, run defense
is very, very good. So it's like, this could be a game where Jayden Daniel has to do like
a little more. And I think he will. Um, I also think this is a good spot though, PFD,
because you have Ravens off of Sunday night football, big win against the bills over time.
Yep. 77 snaps for the offense last week for the Ravens.
And then you get them in a noon game. I don't know. I think it's good spot.
Now, if, if we win this game,
I will say all the reckless things that I've been thinking about that I have,
I've somehow stopped myself from saying, absolutely.
I will be the happiest boy that I've ever been in my entire life.
If we win this game. And I think it's a possibility. I think we could win this game.
Yeah. I don't think it's likely, but I think, uh,
if the Ravens play a lot of his own defense,
that's when Jayden has his games when he's like 90% completion rate against man.
He's a little bit less of that, but, um, yeah, we'll see what the Ravens defense does. I had a dumb thought about this game.
And I texted her friend Chris long because Chris played on the defensive line in the
NFL for a long time.
He hasn't gotten back to me because I just had the thought and I texted him.
I was like, is this really dumb for me to say this or not?
Maybe you guys can tell me.
Our pass rush is not good.
Our defensive end's not great.
Our defensive tackle's very good for the commanders.
Is it maybe sneaky a good thing that our pass rush on the end sucks against Lamar?
Because you naturally keep contained because you're not good enough to get downfield and
turn that corner?
I think you'd probably want better guys though.
No it might be better to have worse guys.
I don't hate the thought.
This is like 3D chest, 5D chest levels of rationalization that I have worse guys. Yeah, I don't hate the thought. I don't hate the thought. This is like 3D, 5D chess levels of rationalization
that I have right now.
They're so slow they can't physically give up contain.
Exactly.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
It's like if you have a really slow player on your hockey
team, it's like, well, he's too slow to ever be off sides.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't hate that.
We should mention,
cause we have to mention Lamar Jackson is 21 and one straight up against the NFC. Yeah.
Uh, which is crazy. 11 and 11 against spread. So don't be afraid to take the, take the spread
and the commanders in the spread. I think I will, but, uh, that should be mentioned.
Also fun fact, a couple of fun facts for you in this game Sunday's game will tie the record
for most Heisman Trophy winners on the field at the same time. So we got Jaden. Yep. Marcus
Mariota he might not be on the field though. Yeah well he's on the sideline. He'd be on the
sideline. Lamar. Yep. Derrick Henry. Yep. There it is. for so the other time it happened was the Raiders and Bills in
1998 had Tim Brown Desmond Howard Charles Woodson and Doug Flutie Wow
Yeah, kind of cool, and I'd really like to draft Travis Hunter next year. Yeah. Oh Travis Hunter
He's playing this week, and he should be the Heisman
another fun fact
Dean Pease is back. He is back one of my favorite names in the ever D Dean Dean
P E S Dean P. So he's a he's a special assistant to defensive coordinator Zach or for the Ravens.
Dean peas is back. Yep. Dean peas. We don't know much in the name, but he's back in an
advisory role. Yeah. The guy named Dean P his name literally translates to Dean P's Dean P's
Yeah, he looks like a football guy. He looks like a football lifer
He's from Ohio Dean P's credit to the Ravens because their defense hasn't looked as good as they did with Mike McDonald. I
agreed I
Do think Joe Burroughs playing well, the Ravens secondary has not been great. Yeah, they run defense been great
I think Joe Burroughs been on that like he's been on fire. Yeah, cuz Raven secondary has not been great. Yeah. They run defense been great. I think Joe Burrows
been on that. Like he's been on fire. Yeah, because they did
look good against the bills. That's true. They did shut down
the bills. That's true. They also got off to a nice early,
early lead against him. Yeah. Big Hit. Have you ever been
addicted to watching hype videos all the time? This is the first
I've ever been addicted to. Oh my god. I've been watching all
the I've been watching all of them. I think that's how I learn about 90% of my new music catalog
is just via watching hype videos.
Oh my God, these hype videos.
It's better than porn.
Yeah, hype videos are the best.
I also had another question about this game
this week here for you.
The report came out yesterday that Jaden Daniels gets
into the facility at 4 AM.m. every morning is that
too early i think every quarterback does this no it's not every every 4 a.m. there's there
is a there is a story that comes up that's like this guy is the first one in he gets
in so early it like i like this you should be getting in that early i like you if that
is your job i like max doing 4 that. 4 AM? 4 AM.
Fine.
All right, fun fact off that.
So I don't know what time every quarterback gets in.
It does feel like too early.
5 AM feels more appropriate.
Did you know that our coworker and trying to be college football expert Brandon Walker,
who lives almost in Wisconsin, do you know that he sometimes like this morning got here at
630 in the morning to beat the traffic? Yeah he just paces around. Yeah no I know
he pays but but I'd like he is now so obsessed with traffic that he wants to
get in here in 55 minutes flat that he leaves at 530 in the morning. I don't
blame him. Crazy. I would think about doing that too just to avoid traffic
because there's always some asshole and he doesn't have to be here till it's always some asshole
That's broken down on the highway and and jamming you up true true. That's like that
I mean, he's an older guy that is like a dad move
I said he went to sleep at 7 last night, so I guess that makes sense, but still that's that's too early
Update on the El Camino that broke down traffic because of massive traffic traffic jam. It was not
out of gas. Thank God. It was almost out of gas. Okay, so I'm
not that big of an asshole. Okay.
By the way, this is the best start Lamar Jackson gonna get
fixed. Yes, it's in the process of getting fixed and it'll be
fine. Do you want to tell them how many how many miles per
gallon? Yeah, so I did find out how many miles per gallon it
gets because as they were checking it out,
it did run out of gas as they were running it at the garage.
It gets actually somewhere between four and five
miles per gallon.
That's pretty good.
That's awesome.
That's pretty damn good.
In your face, Greta Thurnberg.
How many gallon tank is it?
12?
No, I think it's like 15 or 16.
OK.
Yeah.
So yeah, you can drive for
Like an hour. Yeah a few days. I will not be taking that on the highway
Okay, uh, by the way, this is by by
Like advanced metrics Lamar Jackson who has two MVPs
This is the best he has started a season week one through five, which is pretty crazy. Yeah scary
It is scary because he has started a season week one through five, which is pretty crazy Yeah scary it is scared because he's not fat insane
Okay, Colts of Titans forgot about the Titans. I
Love the Titans this game you do because Anthony Richardson is coming back. I don't know if it I
love the Titans if Joe Flacco plays I
Love love love the Titans If Anthony Richardson plays.
I think the Titans are the snake-bitten team of the year.
And snake-bitten mostly means we'll have us turnovers.
But they are, they've been in every game, right?
Like they could, they should have beaten the Bears.
They should have beaten the Jets.
Who was their, who else did they play? They beat the the Jets. Who was there? Uh, who
else did they play? They beat the Dolphins. What was their third? Their other game to
play the Colts? No, they haven't played the Colts yet. Packers. Okay. That was Malik Willis.
That was the first week. Willis. Yeah. Uh, yeah. I, I think we'll love this is going
to have a good game. There it is. That's my hot take. I think we'll love this is not going
to turn the ball over. I think their defense is really good. They're off a buy, maybe fix some things. And I also think the Colts defense is like, remember how last week I said, the Colts defense or the get right for Trevor Lawrence, I think they're just to get right for everyone.
It could be that could be so do you think that will love us watching Mason Rudolph go in there and run the offense somewhat competently that little little fire on his ass inspiration, it might be a fire under the ass game for Will Levis. Yeah, I just I don't know
Maybe this one is way off, but I I really really like the Titans this game
I like teams and any team off a bye like I don't know. It's just something about it
It's like oh, they're off a buy. They got a little rest. They feel good. They worked on some things
Mm-hmm. I I don't know what to think until I know who's starting this game for the Colts. Yeah. I can't go against Flacco. Yeah, Flacco. Yeah, no, that's fair. Flacco to me is an automatic over.
But the Titans defense is good. Yeah. That's the thing is like, I think they'll be able to handle
either. I would prefer it be Anthony Richardson. I'd like my bet more. But yeah, that's kind of
where I'm at. What's the line on this game right now? Two and a half on draft kinks is that right Hank Hank you be our line expert got it be our line expert
What do you got three Colts are plus? Oh, it's gone to three
Okay, minus one 18 is that maybe Anthony Richardson being called the starter because I think he would I think
Which would be crazy, but I think he's the only one who would be named starter and that would go against they would go against
Yeah, the line would would not be in the look up if he wishes playing again
They're stuck in that spot where I don't think anyone in the world
Thinks that auntie Richardson right now is better than Joe Flacco, but you have to play what I saw is that he is he's been practicing more
He's been doing more in practice this week. Oh, here's a here's a headline
That I'll read. Well, it's paywall. Nobody's lying about Colts. It's QB Anthony Richardson, but nobody's telling full truth
Is that a lie? I don't know. I can't read the whole thing in a court of law. Yeah
Yeah, the whole truth. They make you say the whole truth the whole truth. That sounds like it might be a lie
And Jonathan Taylor, I don't know if he's playing or not
But yeah, I like the Titans in this game. I do I do it's probably stupid
You know what?
This will be my this would be my I'm quitting the Titans if they lose this game
Bet I'm not not taking the Titans if they lose this game. Bet.
I'm not, not taking the Titans. That is my last, last line in the sand.
Yeah.
I mean, off a buy off a buy off a buy.
If they can't, if they can't compete against the Colts off a buy, I think
that's fair to abandon them.
Yes.
Do you ever write teams off for the entire season?
Yeah, I do.
Sometimes they'll still come back somehow.
And then I, then I feel bad because usually those teams that are right off,
they end up coming back and winning. Yes. Yes
Okay, Hank you ready
Texans the Patriots
It's Mayday Hank. We is there anything you'd like to address
In terms of no, I'm excitement for Drake may I am nervous for this game
I I'm not gonna say I'm excited because I just I still I've thought about it I slept on it you know you guys told me I
should be excited I'm excited to see him in the in the throwback jerseys I'm just
nervous I'm not excited I'm nervous okay can I make you a little feel a little
bit better sure Nico Collins is out Nico Collins is very important to the Texans
offense okay that the Texans offense has felt at times like
we're in trouble, hit Neco Collins.
I actually think in a weird way
this is gonna help the Texans going forward
for the rest of the season
because they're gonna have to learn
how to play without Neco.
Tanktel.
Yeah, but they're gonna have to learn
how to survive without Neco.
There was a mutiny Hank for Drake May was
there. The mutiny worked that the Patriots will have maximum effort in this game because
you have to you have to have maximum effort after a mutiny. If you say was his mutiny
I saw one report with the word you need and that wasn't that legitimate. Do you know this show?
That's legitimate.
That's as sources as it gets.
Hank, if you do a mutiny for a guy and then you get the guy to start, everyone's got to
be like, hey, we got to step up because we did a mutiny for it.
That's your guy that you've installed.
I just pulled up, I just looked up Patriot's Mutiny.
There's multitude of articles.
Multitude of articles. If you look at Patriotots Mutiny. There's a multitude of articles. A multitude of articles.
If you look at Patriots Mutiny.
Jared May responds to Mutiny.
Patriots.
We won't read that one.
Well it sounds like it's about
these articles are in response to that
one article that said there was a mutiny.
But they're all
talking about it.
There's smoke, there's fire. Good point. Good point max
but you want you want there to have been a mutiny Hank because now the mutiny worked and
Now they're gonna play hard for
You got some skin in the game in other words the reporter who said that he got a little carried away with locker room mutiny comments
on Patriots podcast earlier today a
Little carried away a little not all the way carried away a touch of mutiny. Yeah,
I like you. I know you should be rooting for the mutiny though because the mutiny like
I would understand their team to be have a mutiny. Listen to me. Listen to me. You ever
seen Captain Phillips? Yeah, they took over. Look at me. I'm the captain now. I'm the captain.
I'm the Drake may I'm the captain now. Hank, you don't want to mutiny unless mutiny works. If it was still in state
of mutiny, you'd be like, fuck this. This is bad mutiny, but it worked. They got the
mutiny done. The mutiny is over. And what's the end goal? This mutiny again, keep going
over this. It's fine. It's fine. What end goal was we need Drake made a play because he gives us the best chance to win.
If he gives me as a hypothetical wide receiver, the best chance to get more stats, dude, think
about it.
Like we've talked about it before.
Uh, post ski, post shovel, post, uh, or like, you know, post game winning, uh, you know,
drive tailgate beer, post mutiny
beers up there. Like the boys are pumped after a mutiny that worked a successful one. Yeah.
Not a mutiny that's still going on a mutiny that worked.
I'm pretty sure it was Devin McCordy that said it, but when the news came out, he said,
I wish we had let Houston wait till Sunday to figure this out. That would have probably
been smart, but you also had a mutiny on your hands. So you kind
of had to deal with it. Now, I would have been a lot more excited if it was like Sunday
1130. And it's like Drake may starting. Yeah, and I would have been fired up. You get the
pop. Yeah. But it's better. The alternative is that the mutiny doesn't work. It gets quelled.
It gets put down. That's way worse. And then you're never drinking a beer again. Right.
And then the season's over. At that point. Locker room lost.
I do think Drake, I think the offensive line will be better.
Because Drake May, he can run.
And he can pass.
Two things that Jacoby Brissett couldn't do,
which are very important parts of playing quarterback.
I would say pros for Jacoby Brissett,
he's better at getting hit.
He's better at getting tackled and getting back up again.
Pros for Drake May at playing quarterback. Who are you going to bet on this game? The
Patriots plus seven. You have a one, you have a one game chance to ride the mutiny. You
have to take it. I don't, you. It's minus six and a half right now. You don't. I, I,
I want to do a mutiny on him now so he can see how fucking great it is.
I have.
It's minus six and a half.
Memes max.
You guys got to do a mutiny on Hank.
Just show him what it's like.
Against Hank?
Yeah.
Mutiny is ass.
Yeah, memes has a, memes has like a 25 page manifesto.
Right and, okay, so that that is perfect example in these terms
Memes is actively trying to mutiny you right? He hasn't been successful
What is he a grumpy guy if he was mutant if he mutinied you he would be happy
That's a bad example. That's not a bad example
When you're actively in a mutiny, you can't be happy because you're like fuck. I'm thinking about this I just can't see memes as a happy guy okay but hypothetically maybe he would if you if you disappear I don't know if one man can do a mutiny I feel like one man is a lone
wolf right but if somehow he got Max on the side and pug and Shane and me and
big cat and we mutinied you we got you out of there do you think that the vibes
would be higher yeah I think we need to mutiny
Show him what your absence would cause a mutiny
I'm saying that in this situation where we all hate you hypothetically then we get you out
Hypothetical then we'll be happy hypothetical is hypothetical. So hypothetically it sounds like that
Drake may is gonna give a little spark to the locker room
Yeah, I'm excited to see what happens. I'm nervous. Are we still calling it Mayday?
Sunday will be Mayday.
That's Mayday. But again, Mayday, not a great term.
Mayday for the Texans.
Mayday for the Texans.
I did look up the origins of Mayday because I was like, why do pilots say
Mayday when they're about to crash? It's actually from it's a French pilot term.
Because they would say, uh, a day Ed sound. it's a French term for help so it's
just saying help me may day may day and then everyone's like oh they're saying
mayday so fun fact pardon my French maybe just texted our production chat
saying we're starting a mute yes and when this is successful we're gonna we're
gonna we're basically just gonna do an experiment on you and then when they
figure when they get the mutiny done you're gonna we're gonna we're basically just gonna do an experiment on you and then when they figure when they get
The mutiny done you're gonna see the vibes. They're crazy
You got to ride the mutiny. I just got pug and chain computers. They can't there's no way they're mutinizing against me
Oh shit. Good luck memes you bought computers
kind of
You told Pete to buy him computers something like that
Cam Newton
All right, be excited Hank
Nico Collins hurt. He's really good. I also know we didn't we weren't here last year for it
I don't know how I'm gonna get to the office because the marathon. Oh
Yeah, you were in trouble I looked it up today like it's yeah, I'm not you are it's impossible. Yeah, you're in trouble
You might just sleep here on Saturday
You're gonna have to just run the marathon. I have a gas room, Hank.
I do too. Super Bowl. You can stay over.
Listen, it sounds like Max might be in this mutiny. He's like stay over at my house. It'll be fun.
And then kill him? Yeah, then kill him.
Kill him. Mames is like yeah.
Bucks Saints. and kill him and kill me. This is like, yeah. Uh, bucks saints,
Spencer rattler, rattler, baby Spencer rattler.
So I was thinking about saints quarterbacks and I couldn't remember the exception of Ian book the last time that the saints had a rookie quarterback
that they had starting for him.
I looked it up and it goes all the way back to 97 with Danny Werfel. Oh, so the Saints are just one of those teams that doesn't ever start rookie
quarterbacks over. Yeah, mostly because they had Drew Brees for a long time. And then now
Derek Carr. But that that in book game that was bad. That was because of COVID. I think
they had both their backup quarterbacks. So Monday night. Yeah, that was ugly. But yes,
Spencer rattler. I I'm excited to watch Spencerattler. I think I think the Saints are live in this game. I think the Saints
are live in this game. I think everyone's gonna say Spencer Rattler stinks. Hammer the
box. I here's the thing with Derek Carr. Nice guy. Recurring guest. First two weeks looked
awesome. If you saw him Monday night, it felt like he was going back to Derek Carr where it was dump off, dump off, dump off, moonshot pass. Maybe maybe Clint Kubiak has maybe he can mold Spencer Rattler in his own image.
So you're gonna be in the sidelines for Spencer Rattler?
I think he will be up in the booth.
I just think I think three and a half is a lot for a division game. And you know, Mike Evans will get kicked out.
And Mike Evans loves fighting.
At some point he's going to be out of this game.
But that was usually, it usually has something to do with CD Deuce.
I think Lattimore too.
Lattimore, yeah.
Mike Evans always gets into a fight against the Saints.
So do you guys, do you guys like the Bucks here?
I like the Saints.
I don't, Ebo, a kid we work with here has been saying don't, you know, don't overthink Spencer rather rookie of the year offensive rookie of the year. Oh wow
That's a great way to put it don't overthink don't overthink that all right wait all right. Yeah, I'm done thinking about it
Yeah, if you don't if you don't think about it at all
It's a great bet so I'm gonna bet the Saints this week the less that in mind because if there's any if there's any way
He does it he has to start hot. Yep. Yeah
Here's here's another thing just throw in there just a thought starter Saints defense is still
good, right the
Box won a game against commanders not a great defense won a game against the Lions not a great defense won a game against the Eagles
Not a great defense
Scored seven points against the Broncos. Very good defense. Yeah. Are the Saints closer to the Broncos or closer to the commanders,
Eagles and Lions? I would say they're probably closer to the Broncos in terms of defense.
Just a thought starter. It's a good thought starter. When you put this all together, it
ultimately is going to come down to whether or not Spencer Rattler is good. Yeah, of course.
We don't know of course
But it also is it's just one of those games that I
My dumb brain said hey, this is gonna be the easiest thing ever
I'm gonna take the bucks and then I paused and said hold on a second idiot
You've been doing this a long time. You've been losing a long time. Maybe it's not that easy
Yeah, I don't hate the Saints at all because you want to be on the right side of calling Spencer rattler being good. Correct. Correct.
Uh, okay. Browns and Eagles max. What are the vibes? Do you want to do Phillies right
now? We did it already. I've already done it. Okay. So what are the vibes for the Eagles? Let's focus on just the Eagles Browns moneyline.
Why would you say that? Max? The Browns are bad. The Eagles are bad. Lane Johnson's back. Do you
Devante Smith's back? It's not true. AJ Brown's back. What do you mean? They never, they haven't
confirmed that. What about AJ Brown and Devante Smith?? I heard they were bad. The vibe in that stadium is going to be horrendous.
Not if they win.
The vibe in that stadium, they're going to get booed within one incompletion.
That stadium is going to erupt in boo.
That's what's going to happen.
That's what Philly does.
Yeah, Max, what is ESPN segment?
We're like, Oh no, Philly's booing too early.
No, no, it's just that no one expects anything out of this Eagles team
well, it's gonna the Browns are gonna eat also the
Philadelphia sports culture right now after I think that the the Eagles are gonna catch some some residual anger from Philly fans
Why would you say that?
Because they they've all I'm doing right now, Huh? That's what I'm doing right now.
Yeah, they're all you guys are on edge right now.
Yeah, but they also suck.
Do they suck?
Yeah.
With Lane Johnson, who by the way, as of four hours ago,
Eagles Lane Johnson to play versus Browns post-concussion.
I've been on a plane.
OK.
You guys also have a pretty winnable couple games coming up. So if you look at
the Eagles schedule right now, they've got the Browns this week, they've got the Giants
next week, then they've got the Bengals, then they've got the Jaguars. Okay. So if they're
healthy, if the Eagles are healthy, the Eagles are not out of it. Here's another thing for you, Max.
According to Sports Info Solutions, they have great stats.
The Browns run a majority of single high safety.
Guess who dominates single high safety?
Why don't you tell me?
AJ Brown.
AJ Brown's gonna feast in this game.
All the overs.
Come on, Max.
I'll be taking the unders.
Cooper Dejean is gonna play in place of Avanti Maddox.
That's gotta get the Eagles fans going.
Come on.
Sure.
Did you guys see DeSean Watson said that
when talking about his benching and his bad plays,
he says, I don't hear it.
Yeah.
I don't see it.
I'm not on Twitter. I'm not on any social media or things like that. So anytime that stuff comes up, the
only time I hear it is either you guys are bringing it up or somebody else outside the
building. I just don't know who it's coming from. I'm going to get everyone to Sean. I'm
going to go out on a limb and say that he's probably heard a few fans that have said it
at games. There's no way he has not heard a single thing because everyone is saying it.
If he hasn't heard a single thing,
then that would actually make me more concerned for Deshaun
because that means that he's just,
he's got this attitude all the time,
even though he doesn't know that people want him benched.
He would basically be Jimmy Carter.
He's just not waking up some days.
Yeah, this is, it's concerning that,
I don't believe him for the record.
I don't think that,
I think that Deshaun Watson walks around
knowing that he shouldn't be starting right now. I actually, I did the math him for the record. I don't think that. I think that Deshaun Watson walks around knowing that he shouldn't be starting right now.
I actually, I did the math on some of this.
Tell me if this is the craziest thing.
Okay.
If you're a Browns fan.
Granted, this weekend you're playing in Philly, but you've got home games coming up.
You're paying Deshaun, I believe, like 47 mil.
Okay.
Right over the course of this season.
And I don't think it's going to be 47 mil every year, but I think it was 47 million
this year. If you do the math on it and you do the capacity at the Browns Stadium, I think it's going to be 47 mil every year, but I think it was 47 million this year. If you do the math on
it, and you do the capacity at the Brown Stadium, I think it's
65,000 people go to those games. Okay. If they just all agreed to
not buy any beer at the games, if there was $0 in concession
sales at the games, but you can't, that comes out to about,
I believe that's 40 million a year, but you can't ask Browns fans to do that.
Sneak your shit in.
I'm saying like, yeah, I'm not saying don't drink at a bra.
Cause they got to watch the Sean Watts.
Imagine going to a Browns game sober.
Yeah.
No one's going to do that.
That's actually Guantanamo, but be creative.
Sneak your beer in, sneak your liquor in no concessions.
What's no concessions, we go on a
concession strike. I like that. Because a lot of the season
tickets have already been sold for a lot of the fans who can't
go on like a strike. Because then you know, you paid for
them, you want to go watch the games. Just sneak your beer in
sneak, sneak liquor and bring plastic flasks. Why don't we
start with something easy? Let's go like no popcorn. No
popcorn. No nachos. You gotta let him get
drunk. Yeah, you gotta eat but I'm saying sneaker shit in. Yeah, because they can't watch Deshaun
Watson sober. You can that's torture. You can do a plastic flask that you fill up from home,
duct tape it to your body. Yeah, your shirt. I like the idea. Cleveland can do it. If any city can
pull it off. I'm pretty sure it's the Browns. Yeah. Uh, come on, Max. You guys are
going to win this game. When you win this game, we'd be happy. Nope. Oh, I refuse to
get excited about any Philly sports teams for the rest of my life. You got to care,
dude. It's not true. You got to care. I saw a tweet. Are are you are you thinking about abandoning the city or just not rooting for any team windows are closed rebuild
Rebuild every team you know I was telling this to memes then the first
The next team that wins a championship in Philadelphia will be the Flyers
Because I don't give a fuck last 24 months for being a Philly fan Philly's blow
This is actually when did you start producing this show?
That would be two months before the beginning of this.
Okay, so you started two months before this.
Philly's blow World Series after two, one series lead.
Eagles blow second half in Super Bowl.
Sixers blow game six, game seven to Celtics.
Philly's blow game six, game seven in NLCS.
Eagles start 10 and ones, crash and burn.
Sixers lose to Knicks in first round.
Phillies lose to Mets and LDS
Also, don't forget the the Union lost the MLS Cup in overtime and they were winning
I think in the 88 89th minute and the Philadelphia Water Dogs finished second. They stink
Which one of those was the worst max?
Do you want me to read them again just so you know? No.
I feel these blow World Series after two one series lead in 2023 Eagles blow second half
lead in Super Bowl Sixers blow game six game seven of Celtics Phillies blow game six game
seven in NLCS Eagles start ten and one crash and burn and Sixers lose to Nick's first round Phillies lose to Mets and LDS. I think it's this one
There's no hope. There's no hope at the windows closed for every team. Okay close them up
There's like at least the last one. We were like at least we got the Phillies
There's nothing that I can say right now like six or at least and bead no. Oh, oh, well playoff be
Dead you haven't even
saw boo you haven't seen this this new six you got yabu okay max what if you
win your next four games I'm not I know I don't believe you I don't believe you
either if you if the Eagles dominate the next four games you're gonna be right. They haven't dominated a game in like five years. That's not true
They started 10-1 last year remember and they put you know those games. They didn't dominate any of them, but no, that's not true
I'm looking at right now
Phillies blow World Series after two series lead stop stop. It was blow second half
Blow World Series after two one series lead stop stop the world's blow second half
The game six and game sevens back-to-back those that hurts. Oh, are you talking about sixers blow game six games? I'll fix Philly's blow game six game seven
Hey memes, can you do it was two of us? I was wondering which ones you were talking about memes
Can you ask max if he thinks that there's any correlation between starting working on part of my take and Philadelphia sports going to shit max do
you think there's any correlation between you starting on PMT and the baby
he's doing the baby oh man he's going baby mode on us I can't I can't hear you
okay let's go to the afternoon games John win this game though max
Eagles money line. Yeah chargers at Broncos
Roshan Slater might be back Joe Walt also might be bad. I looked at their injury report on the chargers
It honestly looks like their depth chart. Yeah, it's the longest injury
It is it's very long time. It's very chargers. It's extremely chargers. Yeah. I just, I,
we haven't seen Justin Herbert look anything like he's looked in years past.
I don't know if it's Greg Roman.
And he said they were going to try to throw more.
I was always told that Justin Herbert, I distinctly remember,
maybe I'm being Berenstein, bears or Mandela affected,
but Justin Herbert at one point was a dynamic quarterback with a sick ass
arm, right?
Yeah, he was. I mean, the beginning of last year, I feel like he was and then he got hurt
and now they've changed the offense. They're trying to run the ball and he got hurt again.
So it kind of just gets hurt every time. Yeah. I think I like the charges in this game. I
said it. There's another one that felt too obvious where I was like, ooh Broncos at home
Plus three are they gonna wear the I knew helmets if they do I'm taking the Broncos at some point
There should be there should be a director of common sense for the Broncos that
Sees how awesome those helmets were and they're just like fuck it
We're not doing any of the other uniforms for the rest of the year. These were so good. They're uniforms again
Yeah, true throwbacks
Start of last year. Yeah, he had
305 yards and three touch and two touchdowns in a game against the Titans
He had 405 yards three touchdowns in game against the Vikings
I think that's right around where he got hurt
But yeah, he was doing okay last year and then it just kind of fell off and he got hurt and the whole team member. I mean Brandon Staley
Yeah, remember Brandon Staley. I remember yeah, we remember so frustrating
Yeah, I mean so it's somewhere in there put up four touchdowns 323 against the Lions in a shootout
It's somewhere. I think they're gonna try to throw it more and. And also if we're a Sean Slater and Joe Alt come back, like that's enormous. Yeah. Especially against
a very good Broncos defense. Do you think that that Harbaugh was watching that chief's
game and he saw the Travis Kelsey laterally and he thought to himself, what if we did
this lateral, but we pitched it back to Joe Alt? That would be rumble and stumble and
let him carry the ball a little bit. Did you see Sean Payton addressed the Bo Knicks interchange on the sidelines?
Where Bo Knicks yelled at Sean Payton? He said it's all good. It's the heat of the moment. It's the game. It's competitive
He's fiery. This is basically just a cliche for all this. We're in the business of passion. Mmm
We're looking for passion and we're looking for people who have passion for the game
Not other things. I think that is so important to him again. I love this response. We're on the next plane
It's nothing
I like saying every class every cliche mixed in with just a sandwich and in the middle of the meat was we're in the business
I like business of passion. Yeah, that's it. That's a good thing to say about your team business
I should listen. I I like watching bone X play. He might not be the best but goddamn he is fun. Yeah, very fun. Uh,
Steelers at Raiders
Aiden O'Connell is the quarterback
This is perfect because that means he I could see Antonio Pierce taking him out of the game in like the second
Yep for Gardner based on play. Yeah, not because of injury or anything like that
I could see Gardner coming off the bench and guess what? That's how you get a spark. Yep. You get spark, Gardner.
Possibly Russ?
Possibly Russ.
I don't know.
I can't begin to understand what Mike Tomlin is thinking,
because he doesn't.
And he's got the right idea, which is why would I
say anything to you guys?
Yeah.
Like, we handle everything behind closed doors.
The Patriots should have done that with Drake May.
But I understand where he's coming from,
but he's hard to read.
Should, uh...
Should Mike Talman cut George Pickens?
No!
Did you watch some of the tape?
Yes!
Holy fuck, he's not trying at all.
And then after, or this week in the media availability, he was asked, uh, if, like, how he can get more touches, his snaps back and he said it not it's not on me
It's all up to Arthur
Yeah, I mean this is George Pickens, but it's not
It would be one thing if he was lighting it up. Yeah, he's just a negative right now
Yeah, this is George bet
This is I I love players like this cuz they're we missed the era of the diva wide
We're so he's not even like you can't even say he's a wide receiver right now. He's not even running around
He's just kind of out there. He's just a diva. So I open fucking always I'm just yeah
I I don't know what and Russ Russ was he's fully practicing now. He did the media availability
I wonder if he's the only practice guy ever who does iBlack, but
he had iBlack on for practice.
I mean, when it comes time for the road trips that Russell Wilson knew he wasn't going to
play in, he was just telling his family, like, hey, sorry, I got a business trip that I got
to go to. You'll see me on the sidelines when I go there. Just trying to get out of the
house for a little bit.
Yeah. Great, great uniform matchup. I love when the Steelers and the Raiders play. Yeah, it is good. So we always talk about Tomlin
being when he's an underdog, scrappy underdog bet on. He's also in the last four seasons.
He's foreign to against the spread when he's a road favorite. Oh, so this is another good
situation. I do think even though Nick Herbert is out, I think that the Steelers pass rush is going to be all over Aiden O'Connell
because they can't block anyone for the Raiders. I lean the Steelers, but man, George Pickens,
he's in my head.
Yeah, that's what he does best.
But he's not doing anything.
He's so fun though.
He's just, but he's not fun. That's the thing. He is fun when he's playing and catching but he's not fun
Yeah, George Pickens is is if you just watch a highlight tape of George Pickens
You're like, this is the greatest wide receiver ever then you watch him in the game
You're like is this guy even trying? Yeah, and he if Russell Wilson gets in I predict that George Pickens will hate Russell
Wilson even more than he hates Justin Fields. Although Russell might, things will get worse
He might just try to throw to him all the time just to try to get him that would be the smart thing
Yeah, is get him involved early get him involved early
Best game in the afternoon lions and Cowboys. I'm so pumped for this game. Yeah, it should be should be high-scoring
I hope it's high-scoring. Yeah, I think it will be I have some some good quotes from you for
From the Lions this week. We had so Dan Campbell Frank rag now hurt his pack
Dan Campbell said he was walking through the facility last week went out of nowhere
Someone punches me against the wall then I get punched again
And I realize that it's Frank trying to show me that his pack is great. That's his way of telling me
Look how strong I am. It's good. Yeah, I like that. That's how they figure out injuries in Detroit. I fucking love it
I also think this might be one of those
examples of Dan Campbell
Knowing what people will think about him
Yeah, and then leaning into it and given tossing some red meat out there like we talked about having the lion on the sidelines
Yep, I think Dan Campbell is secretly way smarter than we think that he is
Oh, yeah, definitely and he loves having people think that he's a dumb meathead. Yeah, so this might be one of those things
He's like I know what I'm gonna say. Yeah, they're gonna work. We're gonna just do injuries by
punching. Yeah. And if I feel if you can hurt me, then you get your back, you're good to play
football. Yeah, we also had you guys see Jordan Lewis's, the Cowboys cornerback quote, it's one
of my favorite quotes ever. So Amon Ra said that last year when they played, that Jordan Lewis was
talking crazy, like some shit I've never heard before they played that Jordan Lewis was talking crazy like some shit
I've never heard before they asked Jordan Lewis about this. They're like, hey, this is what Aman Ra said
He said I honestly don't remember sometimes I just black out just go somewhere else with it
But if I said anything disrespectful, I'd probably say it again. Love that stand. It's like yeah
I'm gonna yeah, I probably said some fucked up shit
and guess what? I'm going to do it again. Yeah. Calling your buddies after a night out.
Hey, I don't know what happened at the end of last night, but I meant every single word
that I so good. I fucking love that quote. As for this game, I do think with Dallas's
a defensive line being decimated. So I mentioned them before, but Sports Info Solutions has, so the Lions
run the most 12 personnel of any team in the league. The Cowboys ranks versus 12 personnel,
23rd against run plays, last against play action. I think this is going to be every
Lions offensive weapon just going fucking off. And honestly, I think the Cowboys are
going to be able to move the ball too because the Lions run a lot of man coverage
I think Dak is gonna like this is gonna be a big I need to be a points fiesta
I like that. I hope I'm right because I need a points fiesta in the afternoon, but I want to points fiesta
Yeah
so Detroit is six in the league at rushing 151.3 yards per game and the only team with two backs in the top 20 in
three yards per game and the only team with two backs in the top 20 in rushing and Dallas has the 24th ranked run defense yeah and then you can drill it
down further 12 personnel Warren Sharp taught us one running back two tight ends
yeah sound like you know what you're talking about yeah and and the lie or
sorry the Cowboys defensive line they're bad against a rush and they also are
injured I don't know if Mike is back.
He possibly is as skip Bayless will say missing Parsons report.
Yeah, he's not.
He's not have Micah Parsons ruled out.
Oh, no, that's for Steelers.
Jerry Jones leaves glimmer of hope regarding Micah Parsons status for Lions Cowboys.
I love the Jerry Jones.
Yes, the one it's perfect, right?
Like this is this is a job for a head coach.
Instead, you've got the owner slash GM slash warlord
of Arlington, Texas.
It's perfect.
Just going out there and telling the coach what's happening.
Yeah.
Remember last year in this game?
That was a great game.
Great game.
I think we were in Arizona.
Yeah, we were driving back.
We were driving back.
And the ending of this game was peak Dan Campbell.
Oh yeah.
If you thought that what Dan Campbell did
in the NFC championship game was reckless
This was way crazier at the end at that two-point conversion so much backed up fuck it. Let's still keep going for it. Yep
Yeah, so Dan Campbell's gonna let all hang out this week. Yeah, this is nuts hanging out. Yeah, this is a revenge game
Yep, okay Falcons at Panthers is the last afternoon game. I don't care. I mean, I care,
but I, I, I'm the Panthers are back. We had the fun Andy Dalton week and now it feels
like we're just back to, they got some, they have more injuries on the offensive line.
Like I just, I kind of want to take the Panthers, but I also, cause I just feel like Kirk cousins
playing above his head right now, but this game stinks. I think Cousins is going to get better as the season goes on too.
Because he's going to get healthier.
He's going to be more comfortable with the new wide receivers.
This game stinks.
Yes, but I'm kind of going to disagree with that.
Why?
It doesn't stink in a way of, you know how on YouTube TV where it says like, here's your
moment of zen during commercial breaks and just plays like butterflies landing.
Watching Andy Dalton and Kirk Cousins
going up against each other in the football game,
that's kind of like moment of zen.
It's good to have it just there.
I don't really care about it, but it's good that it's on.
Yeah, I just think the Falcons are gonna probably kill him
and it's just gonna be another one of those,
oh man, the Panthers.
You had one week, that Raiders win was awesome.
That was great.
I think it's just good. I think it's good for the soul to have
Andy Dalton and Kirk Cousins.
Yeah. All right. Sunday Night Football, Bengals of Giants must
win for the Bengals. We've been on a must win watch basically
every single week. They had a players only meeting on the
defense.
Mutiny?
Nope. Players only meeting. And Mike Hilton said, I know we've
been playing like shit for real
honestly.
Yeah, he said this by the way.
Did you guys know there's a beat reporter for ESPN calm who covers the Cincinnati Bengals?
Yeah, whose name is Ben baby.
Yeah, I love that Ben baby.
I laugh every time every time I see Ben baby.
Great name seems like an awesome guy.
But yeah, I would say that that's true. They have been what's quote again
I know we've been playing like shit for real honestly, that's a for real and an honest real honestly like shit
Yeah, so I like the Bengals in this game. Yeah, Daniel Jones is one in
13 in prime time. Ooh, not a great record for Danny. Ooh
So again, it's must win. It's a season of
must win games. It's a season of must wins games. The Giants defensive line is very good.
Their secondary is a little suspect. I think Joe Burrow is going to keep, Joe Burrow has
to do it all. Yeah. Until their defense shows up, he's got to do it all. And do we have
neighbors coming back? I believe so. Okay. I like that. So it'll be fun. It's going to
be a fun game. I'm actually like weirdly think the the Giants if they had lost the Seahawks, we'd be going into this game being like, oh
Or even if the Giants had lost no in the Bengals had won be like forget it
But this the Giants are frisky. Yeah, they're a frisky team. They're defensive. Their defensive line is good. Yeah, like no joke
They're good. I think they yeah, they lead the league in sacks. Yeah, 22 sacks. So this is gonna be a fun game
I'm excited for this game
Any other thoughts from week six max you want to take back anything you said about the Eagles?
He's now this great podcast. I'm shaking his head
What about this stat people people talking shit about the NFC East this year the NFC East against the AFC North?
This is just this is just a stat to compliment yourself.
No, it's not. It is.
I like I don't I'm done. I'm done here. And I'm done.
Five and one done.
But hey, this is sad about this.
Yes, you got to care, dude.
Well, you know why he's saying that he doesn't care. Yeah.
Hank, there's and I and I and I report him.
I hate to care.
Those are erroneous Hank does care
You about something Hank?
Yes, the fact that he can like watch his teams just play like shit and be like, oh well, at least I can golf tomorrow
Actually can is depressing it's it's the the falls hitting hard. Oh, we just got a
meeting email for the mutiny tomorrow
I don't think there's ever been a mutiny that we've done an email for but yeah
Friday October 11th 11 a.m. mutiny me meme Shane Max pug PFT oh I'm see I'm
replying yes I will be there mutiny invitation
I Can't wait for this mutiny. What are we gonna do though memes? I?
Don't know put them in a trash can I spoke to the advisor guys. They they also want it. Oh hell
Yes, is anyone bringing snacks? Oh, hey, just nodded like of course they want a mutiny
No, I don't believe that I think I like I like memes trying but I
Quickest was like Hank did something yesterday. So I'm in Oh
Mutiny what'd you do? I'm doing yeah. What did you do? He sounds bit. So he did something you didn't do anything like him work
No, I was working you're working
Hank cares guys
About things. Ah
Me all right. Do you feel bad at how bad max feels I?
Feel bad oh
For max on those streams yes, yes, I
Got a I do my dad. He also feels bad. Oh, that's I appreciate that that's
Sir a second Phil Alberto has felt bad
Yeah, yeah
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DKNG.co slash FT ball. So let's do it in here
cuz max We just do all Eagles to prove a point? I mean, I do like AJ Brown to score. Alright, so AJ
Brown's in there. He's gonna be my pick. You want to go do I'll go AJ Brown, David Montgomery,
Hank. I have to pick an eagle. No, you can pick anyone. I was gonna I was gonna pick Jamar Gibbs.
Jamir Gibbs? Okay.
Hank, what's your coach's name?
I'm not good at speaking, whatever. All right, Jamir Gibbs is in I'll do Jamar Chase. Okay,
because that was a sign you just gave by saying Jamar Gibbs that means you meant Jamar chase so it's gonna be AJ Brown Jamir Gibbs Jamar
chase I like it that's all three windows just got to get one a window we can do
this boys we can do this all right so let's do picks what's the record and
who's going first the records are big cat six and four memes five and five PFT five and five Hank four and six
Max three six and oh
I wish you just laughed it. Oh, sorry. No. I'm sorry. Sorry
Okay, let's do some pics
Hey, who's up first? I go first memes. I'm taking the Lions
Minus three Hank made a face like he's calling cat
Do you go for not trust him? Okay? It's week six. There's five of us. Are you like ha like the lion got you there?
Do the math real quick five of us week six started with memes
Got it. I'm waiting for hate to get it. You got I thought we started with me that was where I was mistake on it
Me right yeah, I'll be taking the Browns plus nine and a half
Why not money line?
I'm gonna take the Eagles minus nine and a half. I'm gonna take the Browns Eagles over 42 and a half
I'm gonna take the Browns Eagles over 42 and a half I'm gonna take the Saints plus three
Mm-hmm, and I'm take the over in the Chargers Broncos over 35 and a half. Mm-hmm
I will take the Bears minus one and a half
I'm going to take
The Bucks Saints over 41.
Okay, Spencer rattler.
Yep.
I will take the Bears Jags under 44 and a half.
I like that pick Max.
I like that pick Max.
I will take the Bengals Giants under 47 and a half.
Why wouldn't you take the under in the Brown Seagulls game max? I thought about it. That was my first initial thought but now I was like
Oh
I know AJ Brown's gonna probably know
Defense because then my defense would have to step up and but yeah, but there's part of you
That's like who is gonna be a good game for the offense. No, I
Don't know No All right
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Hoi.
Hoi. Hoi. Hello chaps. Hoi! Oi!
Oi!
Hello Chips! Oi!
My name's Gibby.
J-Jibby?
Jibby!
Jibby!
Gibby Gibby!
Gibby McRibby!
Gibby McRibby!
My star this week is Utah Ockey.
Utah Ockey!
The Ockey team in Utah.
They soak over there!
They play Ockey on the pond out then in hockey.
They broke a beer sales record at the Delta Center night one.
But wait, I thought they was the Latter Day Saints.
I thought they drank the milk.
They're excited to drink, they're excited to soak, they're doing puck and they're not
fucking.
Oh, not fucking.
They're soaking.
Soaking?
Hockey.
Hockey.
Utah Hockey, terrible name.
What should their name be? They should have mascots. team should have mascots. They should be the Utah Oasis
Yeti you see you Oasis is back a bomb with a boat snowman must sit them
Rafa oh
Rafa he retired he's sitting down forever could never hold up hold that torch to our boy
Roger Roger Roger Roger Roger Roger Roger
He's not a joke of it. He's the king of clay
But Roger's the king of everything why you like Roger everything what do you like about Roger a good old boy from where?
Roger from where I?
Don't know where you think he's from England. I think he's
Switzerland Switzerland from Switzerland you fuck. You thought he was from England? No. You thought he was Andy Murray? No he's just the king of Wimbledon. He's the king of our home country. You thought he was from England? No he's just the king of Wimbledon. You don't know your fucking country's history! He's the king of grass. He wears all white just like those hockey virgins.
In a Utah.
My sleeper, Deontay Johnson.
This week going up against Atlanta.
He's first in red zone targets, he's fifth in targets overall.
Whatcha doing there? You got some stats.
I'm giving the people a sleeper!
Should we sing a bit of a tune?
If you got him on your bench, put him in the game. should we sing a bit of a tune if you got them on your bench
Put them in the game should we sing a bit of a tune? I'll be your dream I'll be your wish. I'll be your we did this last week. Let's do another one
so after all
You're my wonder
I said maybe
Maybe Maybe you're gonna be the one that saves me that saves me that saves me and after
You're my one
That's good tune thanks a couple points with the lads I
That's a good tune. Thanks. I had a couple of pints with the lads. Hey, I'm British. Hey British. That's my name.
Oh. I'm British. I'm British person. British person number two.
British first name, last name, person. Person. Person.
This week I'm starting a cup of tea. Oh. I'm starting a cup of tea.
And Roger's had a cup of tea. What's the tea? He had a tea.
Ayahuasca. Oh. And then you drink it and then you fire your boss.
You have to be a puke.
It's a- it's mutant-
You vomit!
It's mutant tea.
You vomit everywhere, on the street, in the alley.
Indeed you do. You hallucinate just a wee bit.
Uh, not the tea time that Henry Lockwood has.
No.
Different type of tea time.
Four.
Golfed in weeks?
Uh, I'm si-
That's not true, we golfed this week with you!
That was the work.
Yeah, but we did. we saw you golf this week.
Video out soon, make sure you watch it.
Yeah, Sparty.
Really watch the part with Henry.
Perhaps the- the final nine holes you will into my Alaska yourself.
It's for anyone who doesn't like Henry.
Watch that video.
This one's-
It won't be out for a couple weeks.
That doesn't matter, it's worth the-
It's worth the fucking wait.
Max- Maxwell, I think you should talk in that accent.
You sound so much more cheery.
Uh-
Cheerio.
It's worth the fucking wait!
Maxwell!
That video-
What do you think about Philadelphia sports, Maxwell?
In this voice.
I don't really know how to do this voice.
They're rubbish!
Right?
Right?
Right?
Uh, listen, that video could come out in 2035 and it would be worth the wait.
I'd pay seven quid for it right now.
Yeah! I'd mortgage my house for it.
I'd kill another queen for it.
And sell my flat.
I'm sitting this week. This week I'm sitting on my couch all weekend because college football.
Fuck yeah.
Great day on Saturday. Saturday. Proper day on Saturday, proper, proper day, and then
also sitting on my couch on Sunday because it's a great day of football on Sunday it
is, and then on Monday is it Columbus Day?
Is Columbus Day!
Columbus Day, where we found the new world and we started some colonies that ended up
beating us in a war, and then I'm, my sleeper on this weekend is Bob Costas.
Oh! Bob Costas because he
makes me wanna fall asleep.
He was talking Mark Twain!
He makes me wanna fall asleep. Every time I hear him he does, he does.
He's a bum!
And there's a drive to set a field!
Wait, was that caught?
Did they catch that?
Oh, they caught- oh!
Oh me! Bob Costas is positively rubbish.
He's rubbish- He hasn't been good since he had the pink eye.
The pink eye.
My cousin- My cousin gave him the pink eye when he was overseas here in England for the Olympics.
He took a big steaming crap on his eyeball, did he?
He put his bum on his face.
He was eating his rusty trombone out like he was playing the tuba.
Hehehehe. Hey, oi all right. My name is uh, Harry Potter
Harry Potter. Hello Harry. You're a wizard. I'm a wizard Harry. You got struck by lightning Harry. Not really. It was a witch's spell
right
Wizard a wizard spell my my son is Ben Ben Simmons he said it's
disrespectful the fans think he's robbing NBA teams I agree with Ben
Simmons I fucking love this guy he just doesn't he doesn't give a fuck about
anything takes a piss this is a piss out of it you think he's taking the piss
right now I think he's taking the piss I think he's gonna be very good very good
player this year this is the year we don't count out Vincent yeah my sitem is lieutenant Dan
the guy who's riding out the hurricane down in Florida you got new leg yeah
turns out he's might be a bit of a legend pedophile so we should probably
not make him a star plot twist yes Henry do you have the plot twist?
plot twist? no it's a plot twist that he's a pedophile
there's a pedophile plot twist oh there's a pedophile plot twist
hey make the sound memes
here we go there's a guy with the same name as lieutenant dan who is a pedophile
oh lieutenant dan is a criminal oh he's not a pedophile
fought a cop and tried to light up women on fire oh okay so i'll take it back he's not a pedophile but I caught a cop and tried to light a woman on fire. Okay, so I'll take it back
He's not a pedophile. I'm not convicted for pedophilia. No pedophile there
He tried to maybe been arrested a few times
He's done a little bit in the in the bin tried to light a woman in fire and then when the cops arrested him
He punched the cop. Oh, sorry, but not a pedophile. He punched the cop for unfairly trying to stop him from lighting a woman on fire
Got it. Something like that. But not a pedophile. So he's fire. Got it! Something along- something like that.
So he's okay?
He's okay.
Could be a pedophile.
Yeah, possible pedophile.
Uh, my sleeper is the clocks!
Because guess what, we're turning him- turning him forward!
That's right, I'm gonna climb up to the top of Big Bend this weekend and just...
pull it right down.
Turn it around!
T-pull it down for an hour.
Turn around.
Bright eyes.
Every now and then
Your eyes turn around
broad
and
Now tonight, I need you know whenever
This one a whole time. I fucking need you more than ever
It's a songboy man named meatloaf
Um, all right pay good job fantasy lab boys
Do reminder to everyone that we do change the clocks this week. So lose an hour sleep
Yeah fall back. Yeah sucks for the kickoff of the Bears Jaguars, but you get an extra hour at the bar. That's true
I think they should drink should be free during that hour. Yes, so
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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest in studio. It is
Skip Bayless. Never thought we'd see the day, but he's here in the flesh. Skip, we got a lot of questions, but let's start with
some easy warm us up. Okay. Is Dak Prescott a Super Bowl
winning quarterback?
By the way, could I jump in before I go for it?
This is surreal to me
To you. Yeah
Yeah for similar reasons
So I was blessed to break through in this business for the first time really in about
2010 into 2011 which was the Tim Tebow run through that NFL season.
And on first take, we started to crush and we took over the sports media world.
And then Steve and a joined me the following year.
We took it up a level and it dawned on me last night as I was thinking about joining you guys
that that you guys were in the
rightest place at the rightest time and you became if I may Stephen A and Skip like you took over as
as I was leaving Stephen A to go to Fox and FS1 you guys rose to the top
of the sports media world right on time.
And so it's bizarre to me in a surreal way
that I'm on with you because I honor
what you guys have achieved because I know
what it feels like to be where you are now.
And I congratulate you on
that. And it takes some luck. It does take some right place,
right time. Yeah. And you were right on schedule to do what you
did in this world as I was in the linear TV world.
And I would say that your your career helped our career in the
fact that you guys would have
the dumbest debates sometimes.
Sometimes not, sometimes real, sometimes, would you say sometimes dumb?
No, I would.
I can't go dumb.
When you did like LeBron versus MJ in Horse?
Yeah.
Okay, I think I got you there.
No, we did him play in 101.
Okay, 101, but no, we, I think we found a niche.
Because MJ would destroy him in 101. That's just me. Okay. If
you want to do that, I'll do it. But, but, but the niche that we found is that we're,
we just talk sports like two regular guys and it helped that we could, uh, you know,
kind of play off of the debate shows. Well, you, you took a title and I'm proud to say
I was responsible for half of your title and the version of it. Yes took a title. I'm proud to say I was
responsible for half of your title. Yes, you were. I actually
didn't realize that until I think two weeks into the show. I
was like, wait, we're calling pardon my take. Yeah. And then
we got up. We got a cease and desist from ESPN. And we're
like, okay, if he was like, what's this? I was like, well,
we did rip off the name.
ripped it off in like a fun way. Like you're saying to your audience,
we're not gonna take it as seriously as they do.
We're gonna do this.
Right, right.
And that's gonna be two guys talking about this.
Which one of us is Stephen A and which one is Skip?
You know, I knew you were gonna ask me that
and I didn't wanna have to go there.
I think you're both Skip.
Oh, okay, nice.
How about that?
You know, we used to have two frogs
named Stephen A and Skip. I did not know that. Both died. Oh, okay. I like that. How about that? We used to have two frogs named Stephen A and skip.
I did not know that.
Both died.
Oh, that was a tragedy.
Yeah, that was a tragedy.
They got sucked up into the like filter.
Yeah.
There was a white.
They died tragically.
They died tragically.
Not of old age.
We had a run of pets where they would just die.
We had goldfish, we had frogs, they would just die.
But we did name them after you guys.
It was a white one and a black one.
The white one was Stephen A and the black one was Skip.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Okay, look, I like to argue and I'm passionate about it.
It's like my life, it's what I was born to do, born to be.
And so I wanted to actually debate authentically
on television
where I took it seriously.
And I'm not gonna trick it up, it's gonna be real.
I'm not gonna say anything I don't believe.
And Stephen A was the perfect foil for me.
I'm from Oklahoma City, he's from Queens.
I'm white, he's black.
And yet from the start, we loved each other.
And he knew from the start,
even though I'm trying
to like rip his throat out in the debate,
that I always told him, no punches pulled,
but none thrown.
We can't get to the point where we're gonna throw punches
or the audience is just gonna turn it off
because they don't wanna see mad,
they just wanna see heated.
They wanna see emotion, they wanna see passion,
but they don't wanna see,
strangle each other across the table.
Right.
And Stephen A and I were great that way because,
he wanted to beat me,
but he knew in the end,
I would protect him.
Yeah.
And he knew I had his back,
and he knew I loved him,
like a brother,
and we're still to this day brothers.
So the point was that we did that because I pushed for it and then you guys took it someplace new and
different where you can kind of argue about sports but you don't do it the way we did.
We're, I'm not going to lose the debate. Right. And by the way, I never lost a debate to Stephen A. Smith. Is that true? You're like Lenny Dijkstra's stock record. He lost
one. He lost one. He was like 350 in one. The thing that I loved about first take, which
made it very different from like around the horn, which you guys both had, it was similar
in that every conversation was a competition. Right. But the thing I
loved about first take is there's no score. There's no score being kept. We tried that
once and it doesn't work. You know what would happen? We let the audience sort of I don't
even know what we're what technology we're using to let the audience actually score the
debate on the fly. And I would lose 100 to one every time because I was the most hated
man in sports media. I was the one person that was voting for you by the way.
Thank you for that.
Yeah, I remember the ESPN phone and I would text in afterwards.
But the great thing about First Take was after it was over, the winner of the debate was
actually up for debate.
Then you got to debate with people about, hey, do you like Skip?
Do you like Stephen A?
And I always said the perfect thing about, about what you guys had was you took
two guys that were very, very skilled at, uh, at, at screaming at each other.
And they were maybe the only two people at ESPN that would disagree on both of
the two questions of is LeBron James good and is Tim Tebow bad and putting that
together, there was some magic that happened.
It was magic.
Big fan of that entire era.
Do you, and you actually believe
that Tim Tebow stuff too, right?
Like you believe that Tim Tebow,
if he was given a fair shot in the NFL.
Well, I'm gonna tell you what I said from day one.
After I watched Tim Tebow beat my Oklahoma Sooners,
I grew up in Oklahoma City, an Oklahoma fan.
I was born into the tradition, can't help myself.
After I watched what he did to my Sooners
in the second half of the championship game,
and then I saw that video of him at halftime saying,
we're gonna take the ball,
we're gonna drive it down their throats.
I said, God, I want that guy on my team.
So I said, on the air, on first on first take before the draft if he's available
at the bottom of the first round I'm going to take him and if I run his
college offense I'm going to win a lot of games in the National Football League.
He'll never make a Pro Bowl but I want him on my team and Josh McDaniels then
the Denver head coach took him with the 25th overall pick and when he got his
chance his rookie year after Josh got
fired, so he lost his guy, go look at what happened the last three games of his
rookie year when he did get to play. He put up big numbers legs and arm and they
won two of those three games including one over the Texans at home which he
drove them to the champ to the winning touchdown at the end of the game.
And obviously when Elway and Fox took over the next year,
they just wanted to get the Tebow thing out of the way.
When they fell to one and four,
let's just get it over with.
Let's throw him into the fire at Miami, remember this?
Yeah.
And let's just get it over with,
because he'll suck and the fans will finally say,
okay, you're right about this.
And all the zealots out there will say,
okay, that's enough of Tebow.
And they won in overtime.
And they kept winning games, as I kept saying, all he does is win.
And so day after day on first take, we would bring in a parade of ex NFL players, along
with Stephen A and others.
And they would all fight me to the death over he can't throw. And I'd say, well, in the last five minutes of games,
he has the best QBR in the National Football League,
throwing the football,
because as Eric Mangini once said to me,
you know, you're right about this,
he gets accurate when it's time to get accurate.
So he takes a one in four team to the division title
and all those naysayers had to keep eating crow
Monday after Monday after Monday.
And obviously our ratings went through the roof.
We did numbers in 2011 on ESPN2,
obviously now pretty much abandoned by studio shows,
but we did numbers on ESPN2 that will never ever be touched because of me and Tebow.
Yeah. And you still think, I mean, he's not good.
Well, he never got another chance.
Did he never get a winner?
I mean, just seriously, 20 years from today, somebody who knows nothing about
what we discussed, somebody will take the numbers and say,
wait a second, this guy won the division in 2011
and then he beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in a playoff game
and then he never got another chance to play?
Never started another game, nobody ever gave him a shot,
right?
Okay, how can you explain that?
Well, you think he's just not good.
And finally, I guess Belichick,
Chip Kelly and Philly decided,
well, he's just not good enough.
But you have to give him a chance to win the game
because I think he could have kept winning games.
What about this?
What if you just made him a closer, like in baseball?
He comes in, you get Dak out there for three quarters,
Tebow comes in the fourth quarter.
It's a revolutionary thought and it's a great one.
And I do not disagree with that premise.
It's just something the National Football League
doesn't do because we don't do that.
But someday somebody will try that and succeed with it.
And then everybody will develop a closer for their team.
A closer quarter.
That'd be awesome.
Get some music playing, have a run out of the tunnel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So have you spoken with,
did Tim Tebow ever thank you for everything you did for him?
I interviewed him twice.
We had him once on first take
and then I went to the Super Bowls in Indianapolis
that year and I sat with him for an hour for
a piece that we played on first take.
And I never got close to him.
I never connected.
I do believe in God.
He obviously really believes in God in ways that I don't quite worship.
But we never talked about that and it surprised me frankly that off the air
he didn't say something to me about any connection we had. I didn't ever feel any closeness at
all. So I didn't have a relationship. I don't have his contact. I just believed in him winning
football games.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you very artfully dodged the Dallas Cowboys portion.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah. I love that. Yeah
Is your is your jersey in the trash still? I threw them away and my wife burned them. Did she burn the jerseys now?
Wait, hang on. She took them out of the trash can burn them and then put them into the fire. It was an exorcism
Yeah, what what happened with can you explain to me what happened with the smart trash can that one video that was tough
It kept on closing on you. Yeah you yeah but was I not deadly accurate I
know but that thing was bodying you yeah it just kept on closing on you I know
but I didn't miss a throw because I was I was going t-bow like in the last five
minutes yeah it's it's like pure anger is is manifesting in my deadly accuracy.
Where I'm throwing with all my might.
In fact, it reminds me a bit, if I may,
my Vanderbilt Commodores.
We finally beat Alabama and we kicked their ass.
We beat them fair and square because we outplayed them
on Saturday in Nashville at our stadium.
And our smart students then took the goalpost
and carried it all the way down West End Avenue,
it's like three miles to the Cumberland River,
downtown Nashville, and threw the goalpost into the river.
It's like 134 years of frustration
because we hadn't beaten a top five team
in 134 years of playing because we hadn't beaten a top five team in 134 years of
playing college football and we took 134 years and threw it in the river so I
took every piece of cowboy memorabilia that I own jerseys hats scarfs and I
fired every piece into the trash she went into the trash and took all of the above and
burned them in a big pile in the kitchen. She just set them on fire.
So you have no more Dallas Cowboys merch? Well I started over with a number 17
jersey because I thought he was the greatest kicker I've ever seen in my life.
So I decided. What about Eleven from Heaven? That's the new GOAT! What about Parsons?
That's the new go
I wish you don't know we're special. Are we talking about the guy? I have to file a missing Parsons
Parsons that's really good. You're Vandy
I I said this to you before when you talked for a minute
But you need to be called to task on your tweet after Vandy one when you said, if you watched or heard the end of this week, skip the show.
I strongly hinted at this possibility,
but didn't want to predict the upset for fear.
Bama coaches would show it to their players and I would do my school.
You don't get credit for hinting. You got to take the pick. Okay.
But if you listen to the end of my podcast, the week before I,
I whispered it. I literally whispered we have a
quarterback who gives us a chance to win every game
including this game. He just knows how to play but don't tell
anybody don't tell Alabama. Thank God you whisper it
because the Bama coaches they probably can't hear the
whispers. I don't think they did. Although they did all put they
put mouse traps in each player's locker
because this is going to be a proverbial
mouse trap game.
Quote unquote trap game.
Yeah.
And I'm like, yeah, trap shooting, like clay pigeons,
you know, pull, bam.
You know, like that's what the trap's gonna be.
But I wanted them to saunter in.
I wanted them to be drained
and a little down from the game of the year.
Yep.
The game before, and we were coming off a bye,
and we do have a Diego Pavia who just knows
how to win college football games.
It's simple as that.
He's played five years of college football
and started every year, two at New Mexico Military,
two at New Mexico State.
He brought five coaches with him to Vanderbilt,
including his offensive coordinator, because we needed him to Vanderbilt, including his offensive
coordinator because we needed him to put us on the national map. And if that's our version
of NIL is hiring five coaches, that's what we have to do.
Yeah. All right. So I got a question. Uh, how do you watch all the games and how do
you have the energy? I know you get up at like two in the morning to run and lift all
the time, but is there, has there been a moment in your career where you've started to run out of gas or you're like,
I can't, I mean, it's, it's pretty crazy
that you're able to do it and keep this up.
Big cat, if you know me, I am obsessed with this.
I am still more on fire than I have ever been.
I live for it.
I eat, sleep, breathe it,
I can't explain it.
You can ask my wife on our first date back in 2005,
I told her if this goes anywhere,
you will always be number two to my work
because it's not work to me, it's my life.
It's my reason for being.
I love the games.
It's not a task for me to watch the games.
And then you have to figure out the why of what you just saw.
So I'm really into processing the why and trying to see things others don't see.
Not that I'm a shock jock.
These things just come naturally to me.
And then I'm going to say exactly what I see.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you surprise yourself sometimes when you're like,
oh man, this take is,
this is a fiery one that no one's gonna see coming.
Yeah, but I don't think of it as a take,
like a hot take.
I hate that cliche.
It's just me.
I don't know.
It's just me being me.
I- Yeah.
You just think you have the ability to think counter
to what most people are seeing and thinking.
Like they'll see one thing and you're seeing,
hey, this is actually the story here.
Yeah, I don't think of it that way,
but I do think it turns out that way.
You have that because you'll have opinions that's like,
oh, I didn't even think about it that way.
That are fresh.
Yeah, right.
That make you think, and then you're gonna sit back,
because you're a smart guy and you're a really smart guy, and you're a really smart guy,
and you're gonna sit back and say,
oh, okay. Yeah.
That makes sense, because I'm not shock jockey
to the point I'm coming up with something
where I say, oh, this will stir up the hornest nest.
I don't have a hornest nest.
I'm just me. Mm-hmm.
I'm just seeing and saying exactly what I saw last night.
So you don't gamble on the games, do you?
Just with my pride.
Or like some Mountain Dew occasionally.
But actually that's a good point because you,
in a weird way, you have a lot at stake on every game
because you're rooting for what you just said about the game.
You're rooting for, you know, sometimes your takes that zig when everybody else is zags. You're rooting for what you just said about the game. You're rooting for, you know, sometimes your takes
that zig when everybody else is zags.
You're rooting for that to be right
so you can get on the edge.
That's true.
I told you so.
Yeah, okay, I'll buy that.
Yeah, so when you watch the games,
are you watching multiple games at once?
Or do you have, what's your setup like?
My limit is three at once because I can't process,
I have a hard time processing two, but I try to go
three. I've got two giant screens and then I always have some game on either phone or
computer. Yeah. And when you, uh, when you wake up, big cat alluded to the workout routine.
How many hours a day we work it out now. Okay. I, I do cardio every day for one hour. Never
miss. Never saw a treadmill. that, just on a treadmill?
I used to run outside more.
Now I'm confining everything to inside.
I'm in LA.
It's just too dangerous to run outside.
The trap, there's psycho drivers in LA.
I know they are in New York and Chicago
and everywhere else, but it just got too dangerous.
So I'm confining myself to all treadmill
or upright exercise bike.
So I do that for an hour.
And I do not miss lifting Monday, Wednesday,
Friday afternoon, every single week.
I don't miss.
Wow.
I remember there was a profile,
I forget what magazine it was in,
but somebody talked about what a psycho you were in the gym.
Just like, what do you listen to when you work out?
A lot of times I'm listening to games. Like you're asking me how
do you do it? I try to time it around a game, like, because
they start earlier in California, obviously in the
West. So if it's 430 or five, I've got a game on in my ear,
or I'm just watching it at home. I got a home gym where I've got
a TV in my home gym.
Yeah. You really are just like all sports all the time.
Yeah. Which I love.
Is there date night? Friday night.
Ernestine's an angel for dealing with this. She's a saint.
Yeah. So Friday night is date night.
Yep. But the rest of-
In cheat night, we have one slice of pizza every Friday night.
Oh my God. That's crazy. Isn't that crazy? We get really nuts. And you eat this- I mean, we get one slice of pizza every Friday night. Oh my God, that's crazy.
Isn't that crazy?
We get really nuts.
And you eat this.
I mean, we get like sicko, psycho, nuts.
Only one?
Only one?
You've done two. That's the role.
I've done two a couple times.
Yeah, you have.
I know you've done two.
And you eat the same thing for lunch every day, right?
You still do that?
I do.
I'm crazy.
So, what do you eat?
I'm happy crazy. Every Monday you sit down,
you make all your turkey sandwiches?
No, we have a chef make them.
Okay. Yeah.
But I eat white meat, turkey and broccoli and brown rice
and like beans, like dark beans.
I have that kind of combination two big times a day,
lunch and dinner.
And then Friday one, possibly two pieces of pizza and that's it.
And we'll go frozen yogurt on Friday night.
That's bad.
It's a big cheat.
Now you're getting bad.
That's crazy.
So when we were talking about the Cowboys earlier, it always reminds me of, to go back
to you and Stephen A having the constant debates about the Dallas Cowboys you and Stephen a part ways you go out to the
West Coast the Cowboys losing the playoffs it felt like Stephen a turned
up the Cowboys dial a little bit yeah put the cowboy hat on sure it always
felt like he was sending secret messages to you like this is for skip it's for an
audience of one I'm still rubbing it in for skip did you feel that way too I
thought he was doing it for his ratings, just to remind everybody. Now he's the cowboy hater,
as opposed to me being the cowboy lover. So I thought it was smart on his part.
But I'm a psycho, sicko cowboy fan. I'm spoiled rotten. And you asked me about
Dak. Yeah. I'm just not buying.
Yeah.
I don't believe.
I've seen enough.
I know what he is and what especially he is not.
He is two and five in the postseason.
And every time a big moment has come
in a postseason game that is begging to be won,
he's not there.
And they played a game three years ago at San Francisco that was begging to be won by the defense when Michael was riding highest.
And he was at least a defensive player of the year candidate.
And he basically took over a game at San Francisco that the offense needed one play to be made.
And Dac missed five open receivers in that game
and they lost a close game and that was as close
as they're ever going to come to getting
to an NFC championship game with Dak Prescott at quarterback.
Wow.
And yet Jerry has committed to him for four more years,
made him the richest player in the history of pro football because Jerry just wants to sell tickets and Dak will sell tickets
because he's safe and you know he's going to put up gaudy enough numbers to
be somewhere on the fringe of the MVP race and they'll win some games. I got
them at eight and nine missing the playoffs but but they'll win some games. I got them at eight and nine missing the playoffs,
but they'll win enough games as they stole one
the other night at Pittsburgh because of Dak in the end
after he had three horrendous turnovers,
two in the red zone.
They'll be just good enough to be a factor,
just good enough to be relevant,
just good enough to be the team nobody can take their eyes off of.
So that's why Dak is the quarterback. I was praying for Trey Lance to have a sensational
preseason to the point that Jerry would say, well, maybe, maybe I should go here and plunge
with him the way the Shanhans plunged. No. Yeah, that did not happen.
It just did not happen. Sometimes wake up in cold sweats thinking about Mason crossbar.
Yeah. No game has ripped my guts out more than that game did because that was arguably
Dak's best game of his career. That was his first playoff game. That's when they were the one seed.
That's when they had a home playoff game against Aaron Bleepin Rogers,
who always plays the best against the Dallas Cowboys.
There's something.
And the Bears, but yeah.
I'll give you that.
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
But that's like too easy.
Yeah, that's also, I'll give you that.
Yeah.
But yeah, that was a, so that-
So they're the one seed at home.
And they're not ready to play.
And they come out and fall,
what was it, 21 to something behind, 21 to three?
And here came Dak, and here came Zeke.
And Dak was made possible by Zeke,
and I didn't see that coming.
I was more Dak at that point,
but Zeke was leading the league and rushing,
and he was such a force and a factor
that it allowed Dak to maximize himself as a fourth round pick
in his rookie year.
So all of a sudden, bam, bam, bam, he's got Dez Bryant.
We roll back and we tie the game.
And then it took Mason crossbar hitting two
intergalactic field goals that had no chance of making it over the crossbar.
And the first one was a dying quail that that that he missed to the right. He
actually it was a near shank but it was definitely a slice and it faded just
over the crossbar from 53 maybe what first one was and the second one we're
indoors and go back and look at I dare anybody call up the video it hooks badly
off his foot there's no wind indoors he hooked it and as soon as it left his
foot I won and the hand of God comes down and pulls the ball back inside the
left upright I don't know how a football hooked left and pulls the ball back inside the left upright. I don't know how football
hooked left and then somehow faded back to the right with no wind. I don't know how it happened.
It was not meant to be. Yeah. That's probably the closest they've come to. That was a pretty good
team too. Well, let me ask this about this, the new iteration that we see the Cowboys, are we still all in or are we all in my ass?
All in my ass.
I tweeted that and it blew up and I was like,
what's wrong with that?
I think somebody thought it was some perverse sexual.
Yeah, yeah, no, that's exactly what people thought.
No, it's just all in my ass.
All in my ass.
You follow no one on Twitter.
Do you ever see any other tweets?
Like what's up with that?
You know, you asked me about forming opinions.
Yeah.
I just don't want to be influenced
by what anybody else thinks.
Yeah.
So I don't need that.
I don't want that.
I want to be completely true to myself, authentic,
as cliched and silly as that might sound to you guys.
I just want to be me and I don't need anybody to define me or to help me form my opinion. I don't
want to respond to what the public's opinion is. I want to set the tone and the table.
And you know I only had my days working with Stephen A and
Shannon Sharp both of whom I love like brothers. My only grievance with
either one of them was when we'd go to break and they're looking at their phone
and they're scrolling like seeing what what Twitter said in those days Twitter
what did they say about what I just did?
Yeah.
As if they need validation that they won the argument.
Wait, and then in my days with Stephen A,
one guy in Alaska would say,
you just got your ass kicked, aren't you embarrassed?
And we come out of break and we go back on live TV
and he's angry at me for reasons I don't know.
And then he might turn to his camera and say,
and I don't care what you say,
I'm right about Tim Tebow or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
And he's out of his mind, I'm saying,
what are you doing?
Yeah.
And it's because there was the one guy in Alaska
who told him he just got his ass kicked.
Yeah. And I would say you're so much better than that. You're Stephen A. freaking Smith. Just stand
on your own two feet. You don't need validation. You don't want to let them creep into your psyche
and define who you are on the air to actually have, play a role
in how you're gonna respond to me
and then coming out of the next break, seriously?
So that's why.
That's commendable.
Yeah, I think it's a very human emotion and instinct
being out in the public sphere
and looking for that validation.
Do you guys look at what people say?
I try not to as much because of what you just described
where it's like I could see 100 positive comments
and then one guy and that will ruin my day.
So I think I've gotten better as my career's gone on.
I was a one guy ruined my day guy.
I started in 2009 on Twitter and for maybe a year,
I would look at my ads, my responses, my mentions,
and I would find, I would see one guy who said,
your hair looks like shit today.
And I would think, it does?
My hair looks like shit, maybe it does.
Maybe it does.
And it would start to affect my concentration.
Okay, so why would I inflict that upon myself?
Yeah, no, it's smart. It's a good way to go
through it. So your career, was there, I mean, you don't lack in confidence. I think that's
fair to say. Was there a moment though where you, not a light bulb moment, but let's say
a light bulb moment where it's like, oh, I can do this and I have a skill here and this
is what, you know, I'm good on air, I'm good on radio. Was there
that moment for you? Or did you just always think, Hey, I'm the best I can do this?
That's a great question. Thank you. That question. Thank you. I'm not sure I have that moment.
So quick background story. I began to do things for ESPN in like 1989. I started being a regular on
what was called Sports Reporters with Dick Schaap back in the day. Mike Lupica,
Tony Kornheiser, Bob Ryan, and I found right away I liked the medium. It was good for me because I could really, I'm more
introverted off-camera, but I could really come out of my shell and just be
me and that's the real me on camera more than off-camera. And ESPN liked
what I did so they started a show called Cold Pizza whose remnants
are still first take but they started in 2004 and Mark Shapiro was running ESPN
and called me and said you've done a lot for us I need you to come to New York
and try to help us save my show because that was his signature morning show
based in New York City it was a show loosely based on sports that was his signature morning show based in New York City, it was a show loosely based
on sports that was sort of the GMA Good Morning America
of ESPN.
Not a great idea because if you want GMA
and you're just a casual sports fan,
you'll probably just watch GMA.
Right.
And they were getting no ratings.
So he said, I love you as a debater,
it's what you do best.
I'm gonna sports up cold pizza.
I want you to do four segments a day.
It was with Woody Page at that point
because he was already on the show.
You guys go back and forth four times a show
and let's see if we can spike the ratings,
which we started to do.
But the first morning I was there,
we did one rehearsal for the show runner
who was not a sports guy,
and then Brian Donlon who became a good friend of mine.
So, we go into the debate,
it was just something we did trick up at that point
just to see how it felt.
We were going live the next day,
and two sentences flew out of my mouth.
I went first and Brian Donilon came running
out of the control room down onto the floor
of the New Yorker Hotel at 34th and 8th in Manhattan
where we shot the show and screamed at me,
you're, can I say that word?
Yeah, you can say whatever the fuck you want.
He says, you're way too fucking hot for morning television.
And I'm like, Brian, trust me on this.
This is what you need for morning television.
And that was a eureka moment because
I stopped him in his tracks and he shook his head
and he said, okay, okay, just take it down one notch for me and we'll
be okay so we finished the rehearsal and I took it down one notch and then the
next morning I took it two notches back up and the rest was ratings history
because they eventually pulled every plug in New York City on ESPN Stephen
A's quite frankly and they had Howie Schwab stump the Schwab, and Josh Elliott on ESPN Classic.
All plugs got pulled, but they couldn't pull
the cold pizza plug because we were making money,
because we were starting to rate, in large part,
because of the debates.
Because we were actually doing some hardcore sports talk
in the midst of the pet segments, and ballpark food segments in the cigar segments that were good morning America on ESPN. Yeah. So from there, they just actually deserves its own show, deserves to be, have other shows even
packaged around the idea that this is our centerpiece
of the mornings.
At what point did you first debate Stephen A. Smith
and did you realize instant chemistry?
I did, and that is also a great question.
Great question.
That was in Los Angeles in 2002.
We were both on Jim Rome's show
on what was called Fox Sports Net.
It was the forerunner to FS1s today.
And Jim did a show called The Last Word on Fox Sports Net
and he would frequently have different sort
of sparring partners on.
He loved me.
And one day, fatefully, I got paired with this guy, Stephen A. Smith.
And I got a kick out of him from day one.
And right away, we got into it about some NBA topic.
And Jim became a spectator at a tennis match where his head was just going back and forth
and back and forth and back and forth and back and forth and I knew right away this had magic to it.
We just clicked because he has the greatest gift of gab in the history of television in
my view and there's something about his respect for me was instant and you have to be able to respect where he let me go hard at him.
He's got a big ego and I love him but he has a huge ego because he's earned a huge ego.
And yet he already had it then and he allowed me to go right at him and to make little jokes about him
and to insult him in the realm of the debate.
You don't know what you're talking about.
No one can tell Stephen that, but I just knew right away
he's going to let me say that to him
because he didn't know what he was talking about.
So I was just telling him the truth.
You're just so wrong about this
because of X and Y and Z.
Yeah, but, and he loved for me to set tables for him
because he's a great reactor as opposed to a pre-actor.
I'm more of a pre-actor where I'm gonna go boom, boom, boom,
and he can sit back, stroke his chin and say,
wait a second, and he can take back, stroke his chin, and say, wait a second, and he can take my point D
and say, did you just say that X is Y?
Yeah, I said that, what do you make of it?
And here we'd go off on a tangent
that he was comfortable playing over here in
that might not be the question
that was originally asked by Jim Rome, and I knew you can't teach that you can't coach it
you guys know it you have it it's connection it's chemistry that that
either happens or it does not happen and there's there's no manager there's no
showrunner I don't know what you guys go through behind the scenes.
Hank tells us what to do all the time.
Yeah, he's the puppet master.
Well, that's fine.
And yet, he can't tell you exactly what to say
when it's time to say it.
And right away, I'm in your flow right now.
And it's really a beautiful place to be
because it's magic.
You have it.
And I don't know why you have it.
You could thank God or you could thank,
you could thank the gods of Barstool.
I don't know.
Something happened that connected the two of you
and you play off each other
and you're comfortable with the flow of this
and you don't step on each other. And I don't know if you ever fight off the air, whatever you probably do because
I did with Stephen A occasionally because it's what happens when you're doing this.
Although you guys don't do it at the sort of go for the throat level that we did.
But the point is I just knew right away that he liked me
that turned into loved me.
So, yeah, and it all, I love that answer
because chemistry is the most important thing.
We don't really fight off air.
The only time we ever really had was the dip spit.
I accidentally left a bottle of dip spit.
I used to.
Yeah, it was all the way to the full.
But it might not have been my bottle.
It had no cap on it.
But it also might not have been my bottle. It had no cap on it. But it also might not have been my bottle.
Okay, but real quick, so would there ever be a show
where Big Cat thinks that PFT jumped in too much?
Or are you just?
We've never thought about anything like that.
No, not like to the point of arguing
about something on the show.
I mean, I'll say this, we've been doing this for eight plus years.
There's definitely shows where I'll walk away and be like, Oh, that wasn't our
best, but we consistently are doing it every time.
And there's also a lot of shows where I'm like, we'll say it out loud.
Like that was a great show. Like we hit everything. We were in the flow.
So my, I'm very curious because what you said was,
was kind of beautiful about chemistry and I believe in it big time. What we have here is special and I don't take that for
granted. You're now though kind of going out on your own. So is there part of you that
is going to miss that? And are you a little not scared? Cause I don't think you probably
ever get scared. Uh, maybe if Charles Barkley showed up to your door, you might get scared.
We can get into that later,- My wife would handle him.
Trust me.
Yeah, shout out to Ernestine.
Is there though a piece of you that's like,
I don't know if I wanna do this solo
because I don't have that foil,
someone to go back and forth with play tennis almost.
Also a good question because-
Very good question.
Now, ironically, I'm coming after you guys like I want to do what what you did I did the linear TV
at the highest level and
I
Needed another challenge and this is it you were in the right space at the right time and and you guys are
extraordinary not just you guys but the whole barstool universe is
Extraordinary what you have achieved in a fairly short time so maybe I'm a little late to the party but I need to be late to the party because I need that
challenge and I found over the last two years on linear TV as those ratings
start to erode slowly but surely, that people want video, they want digital,
and I was reaching far more people with my videos, with my tweets, than I was on linear
television.
And it was an eye-opener to me till, this was two years ago, I'm saying, I gotta go
do this.
And yet, I gotta take baby steps because the
hardest thing I'm finding right now is to find the right foil figure. I'm still
doing my solo podcast. I just go solo for an hour. I don't know anybody does that
on the internet the way I do it and it's fine and it's I can scratch the itch
but we are now trying to develop
three or four different shows,
an interview show, a debate show.
I'm even thinking very strongly,
every time I had Ernestine on air with me,
on Undisputed, the ratings went through the roof,
and we're thinking about she and I doing a show together
because she is a live wire fireball.
she and I doing a show together because she is a live wire fireball.
She's the only one who will shut me down.
So we're thinking about even trying that.
But the foil figure for the debate show
has been very difficult for me to find so far.
And we are scouring the backwaters for it.
Yeah, so, and you obviously leave FS1,
you know, what is it, a month or two ago.
Yeah.
The ending with Shannon, people talking about,
is there any regrets there?
Because obviously there was,
it felt like what you were talking about
where PFT9, we don't fight off air,
but it felt like it was kind of a real fight on air at times
and viewers can see that and feel that And that's where it might turn a little
bit. Yeah, I understand that. Yeah.
Trust me on this.
I love that guy and we were together for seven years in a very different way than
you guys are together because we took it up a notch from Stephen A and I, in the end Stephen A is more of a showman, an entertainer, so our debates
could be a little sillier than the ex-pro football player now in the Hall
of Fame versus me because I do know football and I would take it to whatever depth Shannon
wanted to go to on X and O football.
Wherever he wanted to go, I'll go there because I learned from a lot of great people in this
business.
I learned from Don Shula and Bill Walsh and Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson.
I know football.
I don't know the jargon that Shannon knows about 22 Man
and Bomb Litz and whatever the Denver Broncos used
or the Baltimore Ravens used for jargon,
but we would get into it about football
and he would get miffed occasionally
that I would dare to go that deep with him about football
when I didn't play football.
And I've said this from day one,
my experience debating pro football or basketball players
is the greater they were at playing,
sometimes the less they actually can explain
about why that or that or that happened.
Because not that they didn't work hard,
but it came so naturally to them
that they can't see or feel exactly why it works.
See Michael Jordan as the team builder in Charlotte,
who was the biggest disaster of a general manager
in the history of sports,
the greatest performer and player in the history of sports,
was the worst team builder in the history of sports for low those many years in Charlotte because he couldn't
see why can he play and he can't because he was too supremely gifted at what he
did. Yeah. Okay so we would clash occasionally on the football part. Don't
you understand I'm in the hall? Yeah I get get it, I understand, but that doesn't mean
I can't have an opinion that's correct
about whether he can or can't play.
So my point is, I loved Every Minute with Shannon,
but we took it to levels of supreme debate
where it went right to the edge
and occasionally slightly over the edge of competitive. To where
we got mad at each other and by the seventh year, it's a long time, man. We had some great runs. We
did some big ratings numbers, trust me, that will never be touched again in FS1 history. I doubt.
God bless them, but I doubt it. But the point was that, yeah, in year seven,
did we fray a little bit?
Sure we did.
But I fought for him to stay,
and I don't know what happened between Shannon
and the people upstairs,
because I was not privy.
Right, yeah.
But he went before I went, you know?
And it tore me apart.
I did not want him to go. and I told him the last day,
I sat with him in his dressing room, and I said,
I envy you because you're gonna get to go do
what I wanna do.
I still had a year left on my deal.
And he got pushed out the back door,
and it tore me up, and I missed him.
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And now here's more Skip Bayless.
So what would happen when you would go,
I like the idea of supreme debate, by the way.
It's almost like Nirvana.
You've reached the higher pets,
like an ayahuasca of debate.
You've gone through the wall.
But what would happen when it would get frayed a little? Like the famous, obviously, the higher pets, like a ayahuasca of debate. You've gone through the wall. But what would happen when it would get frayed a little?
Like the famous, obviously, the Tom Brady, that moment.
That was the moment.
Yeah, that was the moment.
But what happens after the cameras are off?
Is it fuck you, fuck you?
Is it don't talk for a while?
Tell us as viewers how that comes back together
a little bit, or did it not come back together?
I showed him from day one in 2016,
shortly after you guys had started.
Our first day was September 6th, 2016.
You were-
We were March-
March, 2012.
So you were about six months.
Yeah, yeah.
I tried to make him understand,
because I handpicked him,
because I really thought he could do this, and can do it and did do it because Shannon works hard at
the craft. He was always prepared and always on time and always there for me
and I love him for that and I will be forever grateful to him for what he gave to me for seven great years or
maybe six and a half ish because now to these incidents the the one okay so I
think I misunderstood some of what he was saying but what we're talking about
Brady and I'm a Brady fan I don't even know Tom Brady but when he won seven of these
and I can make a case he should have won eight because I still don't understand why Bill Belichick
benched Malcolm Butler for the Philly Super Bowl I don't get it I've not heard a rational reasonable
explanation of what happened but he played the most snaps on defense and then he doesn't play
any snaps in the Super Bowl
and I don't get it.
Something must have happened behind the scenes,
but both Tom and Malcolm said nothing happened
behind the scenes.
My point is, it's hard to rip that.
It's hard to criticize that as savagely
as Shannon began to criticize Tom Brady. and I just couldn't get it.
And so at one point he says to me,
you do understand I'm in the Hall of Fame.
And I said, yeah, but you're not in this guy's universe.
He won seven Super Bowls, nobody's in his universe.
And Shannon got mad about,
somehow I'm disparaging his career. Well, no, he won three Super Bowls and he's in the universe. And Shannon got mad about, somehow I'm disparaging his career.
Well, no, he won three Super Bowls
and he's in the Hall of Fame.
And there was some misunderstanding to it,
but there was no lingering fight about it.
And when we went to commercial,
I tried to show him from day one,
when we go to commercial, I am letting all of it go.
I'm passionate about it,
but I also know the show must go on.
So I'm gonna walk away for a second, as I always did.
I walked over to my little desk
and I began to prep for our next debate.
And I let it go.
People who ran the show decided
we should maybe sit down after that one,
and we did, and we had a great talk about it,
and we hugged and went on to the next day.
So we were really good.
We got through it, but that was the only day I can remember
where he actually got mad on the air.
You could see it.
And that's where it gets uncomfortable,
where it's like the chemistry kind of.
And I told you, once you cross that line,
audience is like, we're out.
Yeah, so that's the danger you run when when you do supreme debate. That's supreme debate.
And I needed Ayahuasca after that. You've reached levels that no man has ever reached.
So debate. So, uh, so Shannon leaves and like we talked about, you're trying to find your
foil. Good luck with that. I hope, I really hope, I mean, in my own personal dreams, I
would hope that at some point you and Stephen A
Somewhere down the line could link back up again. You never know. What's the percentage chance of that happening? I
Have no idea we tried in 2020
To his credit my deal was up after my first four years. So I've been there from 2016 to 2020. And he did his darnedest,
and I did my damnedest to reunite with him.
And they did make an offer,
and I was unaware I had a matching clause
somewhere at the very bottom,
in very fine print of my contract
that was standard to all contracts.
I was told I had one at ESPN that I was not aware of.
And not only did Fox match, they did sweeten the pot.
Thank you to Lachlan Murdoch for that.
So they tried to make it happier for me to stay,
but I tried everything in my power to rejoin him
because I missed him dearly.
No disrespect to Shannon.
I'd done four years with Shannon. I wanted to go back with Stephen A. And then ESPN came up with a second
idea of a hybrid show whereby I would stay on Undisputed. He would stay on
First Take, but every afternoon we would reunite for 30 or 45 minutes to do ESPN plus together
digital show and
We tried and tried to make it happen and it's just there too many egos involved on both sides
To two competitors, you know doesn't want to give anything to get they don't and vice versa
So that never got off the ground. Well, I hope you find somebody
I hope you find your next foil and I hope that foil is Stephen a Smith somehow. Thank you
But Shannon goes on he's obviously done really well at ESPN on his own
Did you did you happen to see his Instagram live?
I did not did you heard about the incident. I heard about it, but I'm give me some details. Okay
He was engaged with, in an activity.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought we were gonna be inactive.
Okay, okay.
Mm.
Uh.
Mm.
Uh.
Mm, puppy.
Puppy.
Mm.
And it was like that for about 20 minutes.
Okay, but we just did that first.
Uh.
Wait.
It was very authentic.
Yeah, there was a lot of that.
Okay. Yeah. But you didn't see anything. You didn't see anything. It was audio only
When I saw it I was like I need to turn on notifications for skip bail us because I thought you might have a take about it
Yeah, when you first saw so do you have a take about it now that you've heard it from us?
I have no take about it. Um, do you guys have a take about it?
I guess a perfectly normal activity
Okay, that healthy male was engaged in and both parties seem to be enjoying themselves and I'll buy that
Again, I feel like you maybe want to hear it again. So you can have a take about it
No, I'll
I'll wait until later today
Or maybe tomorrow just be careful with your phone. It might be terrible with your phone
It might just go live at any given time and we'll never know. Yeah
But yeah, I hope you I hope you find whoever that next foil is.
Thank you.
Doing the podcast by yourself, you said you did it for an hour.
So it's just an hour of-
Takes.
Hour of takes.
Straight takes, hard, long form, bearing my soul, emptying my heart, all the passion spills.
And I've been doing it for a
couple of years, I kind of did it with my left hand at Fox
just to have some outlet something else besides
undisputed. And yet, my greater passions lie in all these other
shows that we are developing.
Did you did you find that over the years, your, um,
your enjoyment of sports has increased or increased?
I love that because you talked to a lot of people in the business and they say,
like after being around it for so long, you get either burned out or you get numb to it. I like hearing that you're getting more excited by sports.
I mean, my God, I watched Vanderbilt University beat Alabama and it was the greatest moment
of my sports watching existence on this planet
to where I felt a joy that I'm getting goosebumps
as we speak that lingers, that continues on
through the week for me.
I felt a satisfaction that I could spill out in my podcast
that dropped this morning that I've never felt
watching a game and I'm still going strong.
You know, like those things are happening.
They're still out there.
I was watching the Dodger game last night
and they used eight pitchers.
Now I'm thinking, well, you can't do that.
I grew up in an era with Bob Gibson going nine every night in two hours and two minutes.
And I'm watching Dave Roberts use eight bullpen.
You know, he's going one inning, 1.1 inning.
And I'm thinking this is absurd the way the evolution has changed in this game.
So I'm fast, I can't stop talking about all these things
that drive your lives.
Right, right.
Right?
Is there a take or an opinion that you wish you had back
or one that you're like, man, that was dumb?
Or do you just always look forward, never look back?
I would tell you the truth.
I'm telling you from my soul, I have no regrets.
If you have one you wanna throw at me.
Oh, I got a bunch. Okay.
Derek Fisher will prove to be a much better
NBA head coach than Steve Kerr.
Okay, I love Derek Fisher.
Yeah, but Steve Kerr's won a lot of titles.
Yeah, okay.
What year was that?
Help me out.
That was 2014.
Okay.
I still believe in Derek Fisher, right place, right time.
Okay, sorry, I like this.
I just do.
All right, here's the thing Big Cat's not gonna say.
At that time, he could have been right.
Yeah, yeah, he could have been right.
Everything's wrong in the benefit of hindsight.
All right, here's one.
Manta Itao tell the next Ray Lewis
Yeah, I I didn't know about the fishing incident that was about
Yeah, there was
This good like Johnny Manziel
I thought he could go to Cleveland and take the town over to where he'd be bigger than LeBron James
Ultimately because football is way bigger than basketball in Cleveland, Ohio. And yet
I said repeatedly on the air and my bosses did not like it. I said, if he ever has drug
or alcohol problems that plague him going forward into the NFL, cause I had heard lots
of stories. I said, I'm out. Yeah. So he did. And I was, I was
smart. What about this one? Longterm give me Josh Freeman over cam better leader, more
consistent passer, more clutch, more poised under fire, more careful with the ball. Yeah.
Love Josh Freeman at Kansas state and love, you know, they went 10 and six at Tampa second day. I'm not wriggling. I'm telling you. Wait, what year was that? That was 2012. Okay.
Oh, he also, I'm trying to take a side substance abuse. This is like, this is watching, but
I can't know that. Yeah. No, you can't know that as material change. Also, also cam Newton
won an MVP in what he did 2015
Yeah, yeah, that was pretty good. That was pretty good. It was pretty good. Kim Newton pretty clutch
You won a Heisman. That was a pretty pretty crazy year with a he won a national title with the not a great Auburn
But then he started dabbing he won another one at
In done the junior college level. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was he was pretty good. I mean there I like that you're able to
Yeah, yeah, he was he was pretty good. I mean there I like that you're able to
You're able to find your way out of all these no I just I I can't know if they have off the field issues right that are going to derail them if
You saw Josh Freeman beat Texas at Texas when he was at Kansas State and they were nothing
Yeah, he was impressed your college guy. Yeah. Yeah. No Josh Freeman. I like in that year
He's a pro bowler and they're 10 and 6 and I'm sure that's when I tweeted that
Okay, I am a college it cam was really good in college. He was he had the issue at Florida
They got him kicked out of Florida, right? Yeah, but he was really good
I think am new to that last year at Auburn that might have been the best season of any college player of all time
Yeah, make the case. Yeah. But you didn't see Josh. He was second. He was number two.
What about, so where are we at with LeBron right now? Now I, I, I'm MJ over LeBron, but where,
what does LeBron have to do for the rest of his career to maybe get a little bit of respect?
Respect. I mean, he's got respect. Listen, I still call LeBron the best passer in basketball to this day, to this moment.
He's the best passer in basketball. He is the greatest driver of the basketball I have
ever witnessed on any level at any time. The poor man was just born without a clutch gene.
And we see it again and again and again. So all of my LeBron debates have
always been in the context that you started this question with. MJ or LeBron, stop it. Don't even
go there because it's offensive to me you would put those two in the same sentence because LeBron
could not carry Jordan's sneakers and Mike's got a lot of sneakers to carry, right?
So where is he now?
He's played 20,000 plus more minutes than MJ played.
20,000 more minutes than Michael Jordan played
and he's the greatest scorer in the history of basketball,
even though he's a 74% free throw shooter for his career,
which is pathetic
given his magnitude as a score as a three-point shooter
He's at 34.8%
Which among active players ranks in the 200s and among all players all time
ranks in the 700s of three-point shooting. Yet, he's the greatest scorer ever because of longevity, because he has stayed healthier
at a high level.
He's obviously supremely gifted as a driver of the basketball, so he leads the world in
scoring while he's a poor three-point and a poor free-throw shooter.
And the second is more inexcusable because they're called free throws
for a reason. They are free shots from 15 feet unguarded and Michael Jordan made 84% career from
the free throw line. LeBron's at 74%. Larry Bird shot 89% for his career because they're called
free throws. Look how many points LeBron has left on the table
over the years.
So that debate ended long ago.
And yet I remind you,
we've seen back to back Denver series,
LA Denver series,
in which in fourth quarters,
LeBron has been more pathetic than ever.
No clutch gene.
Yeah, no clutch gene.
Max clutch gene, okay.
What is the clutch gene?
It's being able to take and make the shot at the moment to win the game. And
Jordan obviously had the clutch gene. The greatest ever. LeBron, no clutch gene.
What about LeBron's other titles? What about Cleveland? Dele. Dele carried him.
Well, no. I mean LeBron's a great player I mean, he's he's obviously a very gifted passer and all-around player
But he needs somebody else to take and make the Kyrie shot that won game seven at Oakland, right? Yeah
Okay. So here's an interesting thought experiment. We're not gonna do LeBron versus MJ one-on-one right now, but what about
MJ right now. How old is he is he 55 60 no
he's oh his 50th birthday was he's like I'm not sure oh no he's might be a 60th
yeah yeah yeah I think you're right it might be around 64 yeah let's just say
Michael Jordan right now okay 64 let's see 61 61 61 year old Michael Jordan one on one against brawny who wins that's that's
amazing fascinating yeah Mike would just out in tangible him excuse me in
tangible him he would out trash talk him and by the way I love brawny because
they raised him right he's such a great kid. And he's-
Bron's a very good father.
Hey, come on.
Yeah, you can see it.
Hey, it's manifested itself a number one son.
I mean, what a great kid.
JJ Reddick keeps saying he's so coachable.
And yet, it's ripping my guts out to watch Bronnie
through the summer league when he didn't even belong
in summer League,
let alone G League.
And now I kept saying, okay, maybe when he's alongside
his father, it'll bring out the best in Brawny
because he got raised around all the superstars.
Maybe he'll rise to that occasion.
So now I've seen 14, 13 minute stints
in two preseason games and it's Summer League
all over again.
I've seen him make one basket late in the first game in two preseason games, and it's summer league all over again. Yeah.
I've seen him make one basket late
in the first game that he played,
little left-handed layup,
and I'm like, really?
Then I watch him again on the night
that he actually is sharing the floor with his father
for the first time ever,
and he plays 14 minutes,
and he turns it over four times,
and he scores zero points.
I'm saying, I don't know if he can play. Seriously. So it's everything LeBron has lasted for
was to play with his son and what if his son just can't hack it? What if he
just he doesn't deserve any minutes with the big league team? And I know LeBron
well enough to tell you it's beneath the family's dignity
for Bronnie James to play in the G League
for the South Bay Lakers.
I don't think they want that because it's disgraceful.
Like it's below their stature that they've earned.
Yeah, I think it's a very cool moment though
for LeBronnie and Son.
It's a great story.
Okay, it's a great story.
How are they gonna manage it for a season?
Okay, then what? Can the kid back it up?
What if he's getting 10 minutes a night
and that kid Max Christie who's starting to come along,
what if he's going to JJ saying, seriously?
What if all of a sudden Jared Vanderbilt
or any of the guys, Kam Reddish down the bench,
they're going to JJ saying,
you gotta stop this, it's insanity,
you just can't play.
Then what happens, does it start to tear the team apart?
Yeah, no, it's a fair question.
It's a fair question.
Well, I have one last, or a couple last questions here,
because I know you're gonna do something else
in the office.
One question is, when you were in Bristol,
you basically renovated a hotel room and got,
is that right?
And you got a satellite on top, explain this,
because this is like, I'm obsessive about making sure
I can watch all the games, but this is to another level.
Okay, so they moved our show from New York to Bristol,
and I had met my wife, Ernstine,
we weren't husband and wife, but we were together,
we were living together in Manhattan.
She had a great job in Manhattan.
All of a sudden I got to go to the mothership
two hours away up into central Connecticut
and I realized the first day I was there
as I stayed in the residence inn,
which is in Southington, Connecticut,
just down the street from Bristol ESPN,
I really liked it.
So why would I buy a place if they'll pick up the tab
and they said, sure, well, you could stay there
as long as you, as long as, like 365, I'll do it, done.
So I made it my home away from home and they loved me so much.
They took care of me. I was there almost like their child upstairs. I was on the
top floor. They let me have a satellite dish installed right outside my window on
the top floor of the residence in. I bought my own furniture. I got my own
exercise equipment into the room. It was a great room.
And it was some of the most fun I ever had
because they came in and cleaned every day.
Yeah, nice.
They gave me fresh towels every day.
Right.
I loved it.
It was some of the happiest days, of course, career-wise.
Yeah, yeah.
It was the happiest time of my life.
That's incredible though, getting a,
that's the residence in.
And so I would go back to New York on Friday afternoon and be with Ernestine.
And yet she started to like it so much.
She started taking my car service car up to Bristol for the weekend and do a
reverse trip where she would stay with me at the residence in because she enjoyed
the people and they're just good, good folks.
I miss them.
Vacation from Manhattan. Like, yeah, I work in Manhattan Monday through Friday,
then I leave to get out of the city.
I go to Bristol.
That's incredible.
Crystal Connecticut.
Go to Lake Compounds Water Park and the Watch Museum.
Thank you.
Yeah, I miss that.
Magical place.
Yeah.
Big Cat alluded to it earlier,
but have you ever had the occasion
to cross paths with Charles Barkley?
Yeah.
See, he said he wants to kick your ass.
No, he has said way more than that. He said he wants to kill you. Kill you. Kill you. Yeah, he said he wants to kick your ass. No, he said way more than that.
He said he wants to kill you. Kill you. Kill you. I think he said on the Dan Patrick show,
he said if I'm ever diagnosed with like a life threatening illness, just invite Skip Bayless on
the show so I can kill him on live TV. So he's never got a chance to meet him.
This is the closest I got, but I'm pretty sure this wasn't the genesis of all this,
because I was just a columnist in Dallas, Texas for the Dallas Morning News or maybe
the Times Herald at this point.
Spud Webb, then big NBA star, won the Slam Dunk contest, good friend of mine.
Players honored him and respected him so much that he would put on a big all-star game every
summer in Dallas and everybody would come.
Magic would come, Bird would come, Charles Barkley would come.
And occasionally I was asked to be a celebrity coach of a team, but I would actually have
to make substitutions with the players.
So one year, Charles was on my team.
I tried to introduce myself to
Charles before the game and he was uninterested in whoever the hell I was
and yet I did have to take him in and out of the game. So true story, near the
end of the game I leaned over and said, Charles you want to go back in? I'd like
to try to win the game and he said brother, I want to win the game too,
but my shit hurts.
And I'm like, okay, fine.
And I put somebody else in and it was, who was the,
shoot, I just went blank on the Kentucky,
the white kid shooter, Rex Chapman, Rex Chapman.
So I put Rex Chapman in, in place of Charles
and Rex Chapman hit the game winner.
That's a true story.
So Tony Kuko, it's Scottie Pippen.
That's right, it was, bingo.
So that was as close as I ever got to Charles
and then as soon as I started doing this and that
for ESPN in the early 2000s,
he started on his tirades against me on,
back in the day, Leno and Letterman and Dan Patrick and I have
no idea.
But it got so bad that my wife Ernestine and her mother, God rest her soul, when she was
alive, started to take it very personally because their point to me was there might
be one psycho out there who listens to Charles and idolizes Charles
and decides to do Charles' bidding and take you out.
So you've gotta figure out some way
to get him to stop using the K-word.
He can rip and slash all he wants, I don't care.
And I used to publicly thank Charles
because he hung on every word I said on television
and I appreciated that.
He was our most loyal fan of our show.
But I finally went on my podcast a year and a half ago
and just beseeched him to please stop using the K word
just for the sake of my wife and her mom.
And did he?
And I'm pretty sure he has.
I don't like monitor it on a daily basis.
So we're off the K word. That's good.
I think he quit the K word.
Yeah, that's good. Yeah.
That's a yeah. Maybe one day we can bury the hatchet between you two. Cause you're right.
It sounds like he does listen to what you say. He gets mad at him.
I have no idea. I don't get what his issue is with me. And yet we would have Kenny Smith on,
had him on a couple of times on first take and he would always say, you guys are too much alike.
And I'd be like, me and Charles are alike.
But he said, just opinion wise,
he wants his opinion to be the opinion
and he hears yours and maybe he thinks,
God, I wish I'd thought of that or whatever.
Maybe there's some jealousy or resentment.
I don't know, but I got nothing against Charles whatsoever.
I think people will ask us because on Wednesday's episode
Our guest was Troy Aikman. So he was just on where are we out with Troy?
Are things better or great worse?
We're friendly
He about my book that I wrote. Yeah, did you did you imply or did you say he was gay?
I did not said you didn't read it. I didn't, no, no, no, we don't read.
I understand, and I respect and appreciate it.
Thank you for respecting that.
If you had read my book,
you would love the way I portrayed Troy in my book,
because Troy was the hero of that book.
I liked my portrayal of him,
that I signed a book and hand delivered it,
the very first copy of my book, to Troy on the,
it would be the camp practice field
at St. Edward's University in Austin, Texas.
First day of camp, practice ended,
I took my book up and gave it to him,
and I was shocked that originally he did not like it,
but we have come back around,
and he's been nothing but great to me.
And we text, and I did catch your show with him
and I thought he was great.
Yeah, he was.
And he did it because he loves Joe Buck like a brother
and Joe loves you guys and loves being on your show.
And so it was clear to me, he was cool with you
because you're so cool with Joe.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, so I had one last question.
This has been great, Skip. We really appreciate you coming in.
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How many more years you got?
In look, I don't know. I never think about that. Okay, so we could have like a skip Bayless 90 year old screaming about
You could LeBron's grandchildren
You could I hope I'm screaming about brawny
but I hope I'm screaming about brawny, but then feel right at this point No, cuz it feels like you're not gonna you're not gonna stop doing what you do because like you said that is your life
It's my life. There's no retirement for skip Bayless
I don't even think like my wife every time somebody brings that up somewhere. We see it somewhere
She just laughs out loud at it. Like they don't get you, like no. Yeah.
No, that's the last thing in your universe
is I wanna gear down.
I wanna gear up.
I love it.
Yeah.
Get back to the supreme debate.
Supreme debate.
No one's ever done it before.
Yeah, you're like a guru.
You like live at the top of a mountain
and occasionally people walk up the steps.
How do I achieve that supreme debate?
I love the idea of supreme debate.
You and Shannon reached debate levels that have never been reached.
We did. Yeah, actually. Yeah. And we took it right to that tiniest razor's edge. It was dangerous. And then they were like teetering on the razor's edge. And then we slip. Yeah. And we cut our foot.
Yeah, people think they want to reach supreme debate, but if you're not prepared for it, no it will end in a disaster Yeah, like try it's fast and send somebody out on on a surfboard and send them to Portugal during the storm be like
Yeah, go learn how to surf now and seriously when when you reach that level with Stephen a and then Shannon
Once you've been there
You're gonna love those two humans like you've never loved anybody the rest of your born days
because you went someplace with them,
no one's ever gone.
Right, right, you have something in common with them
that no other human needs.
That's it. It's almost like the guys
who walked on the moon.
Like there's only a few of them.
It's beyond that. Yeah, right, right.
Like you can only relate to those guys.
It's like tantric debate almost.
Yeah, I love it.
Do you ever miss writing?
I'm gonna write a book.
I'm just about ready to start it
about my wild ride through television.
So I do miss it and I'm going to,
I'm gonna reach hard for it very soon.
All right. Okay, okay.
Well, Skip. I will read it.
Yeah. Thank you.
Thank you so much for coming.
This has been great. Anytime you're in the city, we'd love to have you back on. So good luck with everything
and really, really appreciate it. It's been a pleasure. I feel like I went into your supreme
place with you guys today that very few get to occupy. So I feel like it's been tantric.
Is that?
Yeah, yeah.
We can do the Shana Sharp thing again if you want.
No.
I'll check it out.
Also, I was right by the way.
I do have a tweet where you said MJ versus LeBron
who would win in horse.
So I was right.
Horse?
Yeah, you said horse.
I don't think we did it on the air.
I just remember doing one-on-one.
Yeah, I have horse.
What about this? I have horse. What about this? What I have horse. What
if LeBron matars and you just well in in in horse in horse
use you. You couldn't Mike just go to the free throw line and
start shooting free.
Why would you have that debate? Because you it's so clear that
who would win that? What year was that? Oh, let me find it.
You've dug deep. Yeah. All right. So this was 2020 April 6th. So COVID you said this will be an all time
great. Who wins a game of horse between Jordan and his prime and LeBron and his now on on
air. Many times we did one on one. I know we did horse. I that that's also now that
I'm looking at it. That's got me. You got me. You needed something. You're right. You
finally want a debate from me
Right there we go. I've done what's congratulations You just have LeBron on as your as your co-host
I congratulate both of you for all your success and may it continue for many years
Thank you. Thank you skip
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Okay. FireFest of the week. Let's wrap it up. Henry. Everything's good. Yeah. Nothing crazy.
The marathon. I mean, trying to the marathon is a, it's a long route. It's directly,
it blocks off every way for me to get to the office
I'm just gonna have to drive like 20 miles out of the way
Why don't you park your car in a spot that you can get it on?
Saturday night
Did you think about that?
Overnight yeah, I could do that. Just find a garage. I mean you just didn't just walk to your car on Sunday morning
Find a garage. I mean you just didn't just walk to your car on Sunday morning
Or stay at max's soup roll. It's hit max's super bowl. What happened? Why do you say Super Bowl?
Cuz night before the Super Bowl I stayed happen in and Hanks extra bed
Yeah, cuz I was too drunk to get back to your room correct, which was down the hall No, that was when I was didn't sleep on the bed you slept on the couch even though there was an extra bed
Down the hall no that was when I was didn't sleep on the bed you slept on the couch even though it wasn't extra
In your puke shirt and my pain you're yeah and the pants pants no the pants you put on the next day
Yeah, I think the pants and you lost your phone I
Did and one thing about you is that you could beat the fuck out of Hank
We don't have to talk about so we already talked about enough. What what loss was that if I looked at the tweet? I have it right here. Do you want me to say yeah, okay, so this is firefest
2022 Phillies blow World Series after two wins series lead also they got no hit in that World Series. Yep
2023 the
Union lose in overtime the Eagles blow second half lead in the Super Bowl. That's what it was
Yeah, that was the one yeah, they were his hands those fingers his ears again. What means you could relive that on our YouTube
There's a vlog about it. There's also vlog coming out
Tonight or should be out right now about max recapping and rumble and rumble. Yeah
Okay, thanks memes
Hank that's your only fire fest is that you don't know And Rumble. And Rumble. Yeah. Thanks memes. Thanks memes.
Hank, that's your only Fire Fest is that you don't know how to get here on Sunday.
Well, I was also upset about, you know, everyone hating on me and everyone saying I don't care
and you know, just all the hate online.
And then I watched the NBA Starting Five documentary.
Current guest, Joe Mazzulla, was one of the talking heads on it wearing the boss and parcel hat love to see it best friend
And they asked him about like Tatum dealing with hate and he his response was very Missoula ask
He was like you mean he gets to deal with it. Oh
You want you also want to be in that situation where you're getting the hate?
You're you know on one of the best teams like that's what's gonna
Happen in the arena. He gets the privilege. Yeah, that you know gave me perspective
I also would like to come to Hank's defense here. We've been doing this show for a very long time
I think the beauty of the show is that we're not all the same and
Pft9 obviously are obsessed with football
Hank maybe not obsessed with all things football
But that's the beauty of it. We have a guy who maybe not obsessed with all things football, but that's the beauty of it. We have a guy who
maybe not obsessed with all things football. We have a dog in the booth. We have a guy who's angry
trying to actively do a mutiny and we have a big baby that won't talk about his teams anymore.
We're from all different dogs. Yeah. We're from just different. I'm talking. I'm just saying that
they're bad. We're just different. We're different people. That's the beauty of the show. Yeah. It
can't, we can't all be the same. That would suck. So Max, the beauty of the show. Yeah, it can't we can't all be the same that would suck
So max what we can't have you do we can't have you turn to Hank where after a loss you just don't talk
That would be the worst. Oh, we already talked about it at the beginning. That's true. I
Got things to say. Oh, all right. Good. Good. Good. Oh, no, that sounded like a threat. I
Like it. I just have thoughts. I like it. I like fiery max
No, that sounded like a threat. I like it. I just have thoughts. I like it. I like fiery max
Okay, good a fire fest Hank and I have your back. Thanks people just we're at the point I actually think this is partially the election coming up. I've had this theory that just everyone I don't know why this thing is broken
I should stop playing with it. Everyone just gets way more on edge in election year, but
worth the point now where there are we have millions of
people listen to show and 99.9% of them enjoy the show and then there's 0.01
that will find every little thing to hate or nitpick you just can't listen
to them. Yeah but I want to be like I don't care what they say then I'm like
wait that plays into the whole thing I'm not caring but I really just yeah what
are you gonna say? Hey Meme just keeps asking is the the meeting off now off no the mutiny still on I love that
We're having like a real moment here
Like mutiny no mutiny still on dude. I fucking replied yes in the calendar. I'm down that I'm down to be mutiny off
I'm out of the mute, but it's not about the mutiny. It's about showing what a bug say to the mutiny pug pug
pug
Looking it over still looking it over
Told me he said yes, no computers
Pug are you oh, this is why we got immunity the guys fucking old and resources from I also could get I just it's just
Texting Pete you could yeah, I could text him. This is how we get the power
Yeah, I don't like I don't want to deal with it. I don't care. What about Shane is Shane Hank in or Hank out?
I find I'm gonna change myself to a maybe on the change the crack change your crack. He's you're gonna crack him
No, no, no, thanks. You're gonna crack him. All right, I'm updated. I'm a maybe
Maybe on the mean I'm just not replying to BS. I'd never reply to any calendar and we know yeah
Hey pop up on my phone. Yeah, I don't need to reply to him Hank
Don't listen to the haters. I don't there's very very small percentage of people that hate everything about
Each and every one of us in this room and can't listen to it we love everyone else they don't even love the haters they're listening they
just they want Hank to be different you're being authentic to you which is
not caring about anything but golf I pretty pretty clean week but I did notice
something earlier today that that affected me a little bit. Um,
I broke my nose when I was in college,
when I was playing a rugby game and I got it,
I got it fixed after it had started to heal.
I never got the entire surgery on it.
The doctor just basically put a rod up my nose and then punched it back into
place as best that he could. Um,
but I think it's getting more broken as I get older. You know how,
like people that get old they their face becomes more of whatever it was like their features get more and more exaggerated
Yeah
I think that my nose is slowly migrating over to the side of my face as I get older
Because I caught myself where if you wear a certain pair of sunglasses
It shows off like the bridge of your nose more
I think my nose is just moving to the side of my face as I get older shit
You know, I'll start a fucked up nose. Oh
Billy oh my god
Yeah, no, I'm not no don't say it don't put that evil out there
But yeah, I think my face is just gradually
I'm becoming a Picasso painting as I get as I get older
I do miss Billy's loud nose breathing when he would eat and it would be like an animal. Yeah
Billy's loud nose breathing when he would eat and it would be like an animal. Yeah. He's just like
Yeah, he sounded like what Kenny G like plays the longest note ever on the saxophone as Billy when he was eating a sub
So wait, what are you gonna do? Are you can you go get it fixed? I don't know I don't know what I can do, but I haven't I haven't like talked to a doctor about it since
2005
2006 I think I'm gonna go to a doctor by the way soon for physical.
Okay, let me know. Yeah. Also, I have high cholesterol because I had a physical. Yeah,
I got to do that. I gotta do that. I'm gonna do that. I'm worried that they're gonna be like,
Whoa, should have come in a while ago. Yeah, that's what that's kind of my big fear too. So
when I got the results back, and then that was the weekend of a punk show. So we were
eating dinner and I was like, Yeah, I'm going to do a salad. And then Frankie was like, yeah, I have high cholesterol.
It was like me too.
And then Robbie was like, I also have high cholesterol.
We're the only punk band in America where we all have high cholesterol.
What's more punk rock than that?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Fuck lipids.
All right.
I got two FireFest.
One is it's from from both of my my children one or two of the three of my
Children one is my daughter at school had to do a project. What do what is your?
What is your dad do for work and her answer that was written down was?
Plays around yeah, it's fair
She's smart. Oh
That one is a little moment where I was like shit. She's kind of right. Yeah, that's fair. She's smart. Oh, that one is a little moment where I was like,
shit, she's kind of right. Yeah, no, it's plays around. Our job is recess. It was like
this whole thing I saw just, you know, you get doctors, you get everything and it's just
plays around. So I do play around. Yeah. And then on Tuesday, I was taking my son to t-ball with my daughter as well and I was it was during the Mets Phillies game
so we took a break walking to the field and
I looked down at my phone while they were sitting on some steps taking a break and
to look at the Phillies score and
my son hit me so hard in the dick that it brought me to my knees to the point that a
Random passerby actually said do you need me to call someone?
Because I was on the ground two little kids crying like writhing in pain
And it made me remind reminded me of when we used to dick dick
Hit each other and we should bring that back. Yeah, that's fun. I'm ready. I'm
dick hit each other and we should bring that back. Yeah, that was fun.
I'm ready.
I'm warmed up.
I get hit in the dick like three times a week, every week.
Blake does go after my balls sometimes still.
So I feel like I've developed calluses.
Yeah.
But it was a direct punch when I wasn't looking
and it's, whew.
Maybe your son's gonna grow up to be
like the next generation of jackass.
That would rock.
If he thinks that's funny already like yeah
They didn't think it was funny because they saw me go I went instant to my knees then they started crying
So maybe he's gonna hate you cuz they were like dad's hurt
And then the fact that a random stranger with a with a stroller literally walked by and just like do you need me to call?
Someone's like dude. We're gonna call the day you call the cops. Oh, I saw an call the dick doctor
It was bad. Max have farfus. Yep
Okay last night after the game I took like an hour and just kind of
You know dark room just had to think about everything that just happened in that game and you know the future of Philadelphia sports
I feel like I know I I feel like I know what he's gonna say. I don't know I'll text it
I don't think you did. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Just hold on a sec. Just hold on a sec
There's no way just hold on a so I didn't eat during the stream because I was nervous
I know a fat joke all crazy. You must have been super nervous. You're gonna eat
Okay, yeah, keep going keep going then I went to
Cava and got a meal and sat down like by myself in like a corner and a Mets fan came up to me and
Padded me on the back. Oh on his way out and it was like I
Assume it was it was an AWL
I couldn't really hear what he said because I had two had two headphones in listening to music, but I just got like a oh
Be okay, and then and then and then he just walked away I have no idea
what he said oh yeah they're there by like it by like a stoolie oh that's
tough we need that Mets fan to show his face I want to shake his hand good for
that Mets fan yeah that was nice I was really nice it could have rubbed it in
yeah Hank thought you were to order Taco Bell to the wrong address which would
have been you know I know that it was like I need to go eat healthy. I need to you know change your car there there
Yeah, I was healthy not that I mean it's like the house or new boxers
It's like the healthiest that every time I go to cover. I just get like 17 orders of the pita chips
I got zero orders of pita okay, all right, so then it's healthy I
Yeah I got zero orders of Peter. Okay. All right, so then it's healthy. I Yeah
You can get anything no Peter chips zero Peter. So no soda. We're Jeff for breakfast today any any candy. Oh
No, okay, no candy breakfast I did it I mean I went and got a turkey bacon egg white
Breakfast sandwich on a bagel, but I got a bagel. That's fine. Yeah, how many sodas on the plate zero sodas? I had water
What do you have for lunch salad? What are you gonna have for dinner? What'd you listen to?
I don't know we're probably gonna eat like shit tonight. Yeah good question. I was a techno probably I don't know I
Thought about listening to Philly Sports Talk radio, and then I was like I can't do this no
That's what I've been listening to all week
What are they saying on Philly Sports Talk radio?
I mean there the Philly Sports Talk radio is crazy. The best was
The guys calling in after Wheeler start any after he threw 110 pitches through seven innings on Saturday and the guys
Furious that they took him out in the eighth inning. They wanted to pitch 150 pitches. Yeah, why not? It's the playoffs
If you don't hit I mean you go home if you don't I would never I would never let the manager take the ball in my
hand I
Would want the ball in my hand Max. I feel bad. I hope I hope you can bounce back also, but crack pictures are just always
Yeah, well that was
So you're so your underwear is ripped
That was a double whammy all right numbers three five
Come on memes who push you to be great memes
69 I'm pushing you to be great memes 99 pug
Pft memes you were gotten this? No. No.
This would suck.
21.
What was your number, Max?
11.
I think you're gonna get it.
Wait.
Is 11 AJ Brown's number?
Yeah.
Oh, he's starting to believe again. 25, 25. Love you guys. I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star
I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star
I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star
I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star
I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star
I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star
I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star
I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a good boy I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better
I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better
I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better
I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better
I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better
I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better
I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better
I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better
I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better
I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better
I'm gonna be the one to make you feel better I'm gonna be a good boy Thanks for watching!