Pardon My Take - Spice Adams In Studio, NFL Week 3 Picks And Preview, Shohei 50/50, Aaron Rodgers Is Back And Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: September 20, 2024

Aaron Rodgers is back and the Patriots are dead. We talk Thursday Night Football and Memes wanted to fight Hank earlier(00:00:00-00:13:12). Shohei goes 50/50 then 51/51 (00:13:12-00:15:31). Woj retire...s (00:15:31-00:21:54). NFL Week 3 Picks and Preview including Arthur Blank night in Atlanta, Skylar Thompson having a shitty number and more deep analysis (00:21:54-01:40:56). Fantasy Ladboys. (01:40:56-01:47:59) Spice Adams joins the show to talk football, his career, becoming an internet meme, and Defense (01:47:59-02:40:06). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:40:09-02:57:04).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:02:43 The crowd is yours. Today is Friday, September 20th and Aaron Rodgers is back. The bad man is back. He looked good. He looked good tonight. Even it was vintage. Aaron Rodgers getting into with his coach a little bit on the sidelines after throwing a touchdown pass. I don't know what that was. We could, we can speculate. It's fun to speculate names. I'm curious to hear when you saw that What did you think? Well before you before memes answers at PFT? First of all PFT for the first 10 minutes the show is on zoom because he's in Austin for pop punk go check him out
Starting point is 00:03:16 Tonight rest of the show were in studio Before he explains it that actually it was a verbal meme Before he explains it, that actually, it was a verbal meme. Robert Sala is Hank and Aaron Rogers is memes because they got in a tussle earlier today too. So there's a lot of tension going into tonight's game, but memes. How are you doing with Hank and how are you doing with Aaron Rogers going after Robert Sala? Which one should I do first? Whichever one you want. I think me and Hank are good. There's a lot. Which one should I do first. Whichever one you want. I think me and Hank are good. No problem. No problem. I just get I just get really fired up during these days
Starting point is 00:03:52 and then I take things wrong a lot. Yeah. PFT I walked into the gambling cave tonight and memes was he was the Arthur meme. He was holding with his fist just like trembling and I was like what's up memes. How you doing. He's like nothing. I just wanted to fight Hank earlier. I was like oh hey cool. Sounds good. A little bit that I saw it looked like he wanted to fight Mincy too. Yeah. Memes was doing a lot. He had to kick a lot of ass tonight. Yeah. No. Missy did a good job. Yeah. Yeah. The blind. I mean the game was so bad. The Jets were so much better than the Patriots that we had to do the blindfold but memes address the Robert Sala and Aaron Rodgers beef. There is no beef. Okay, similar to you and Hank. Yes zero beef They're just talking it out. I imagine Aaron Rodgers wanted to run something else on the on
Starting point is 00:04:42 The down before I didn't see it because I was blindfolded I also didn't see the push but I'm sure everything's fine okay that's probably not far off from what really happened because Aaron Rodgers looked like he did not want to run anything that just were calling for him and Roger just wants to run the Aaron Rodgers coached offense so he was you could see on the sidelines Hackett didn't look happy either. Hackett, like they were, they were beating the shit out of the Patriots and Hackett had this a hundred meters stare on his face where he was just like,
Starting point is 00:05:13 I guess this is good because we're winning, but like, it'd be nice if they use my ideas. Yeah. It was, um, where's Max going? Oh, Max is fixing something. The, uh, the, the Patriots are bad. I think Hank, you can officially say you're all the way out. I think we're going to look back at week one. That will be our week one circle that game and be like, Whoa, what happened there? Well, and overtime we do bangles. Yeah. We almost were two and Oh yeah. But it was, uh, the jets were just way better. I mean they moved the ball easily down the field. The Patriots offensive line is horrendous. I actually now agree with Hank that you probably shouldn't have Drake may out there cuz you'll get killed
Starting point is 00:05:47 Even though he did play mop up duty and didn't look There's still 46 seconds left in this game, okay, I would love Love to be the first the first person on this podcast with a rookie QB touchdown No, they looked they looked horrible their offensive line like looked worse than the bears. He didn't, Kobe never had more than one second to throw. They missed a ton of tackles on defense. Aaron Rogers. It really did feel like bizarre world watching a one of the best quarterbacks just do whatever he wants with doesn't feel good. Huh? Every third down doesn't feel good. Hey, every every doesn't feel good. Yeah, no, it doesn't. It feels helpless. It does. It feels helpless.
Starting point is 00:06:29 It certainly does. What's your attitude towards fans of Aaron Rodgers right now that are just like, yeah, I'm better than you because my quarterback's better. They are there. They're right. I would feel the same way. I get it. Yeah, you're the Jets. You're you're you're just thinking yaw. You're thinking, you know, what's gonna happen? Yeah, for sure. Jets. You're just thinking yawfs. You're thinking, you know, what's gonna happen. Yeah, for sure. I will say that I agree. Jacobi Brissette is the right person to be starting.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Jacobi Brissette fills a very valuable role, which is just to stand there and take a beating and look semi-competent while beating it. So like Drake May, if you were in there, he would take a beating and not look competent while doing it. This is good. He is good at, at taking shots and occasionally completing a couple of passes. This is going to be such bullshit. He's going to throw a touchdown pass. PFT he's about to throw a touchdown pass or not even. Oh, they sacked him. Just stop. Don't let this happen. Hank is going to just be the worst about this. Oh, his helmet came up. He's got to come off the worst about this. Oh, it's how much came up. He's got to come off the field. I wish it was college rules. Uh, wait, sorry, PFT. I
Starting point is 00:07:29 was, I was focused on the fact that the whole thing was just going to have that moment over us forever. If he had thrown a touchdown pass there. Yeah. What were you gonna say? No, I was saying that Jacoby percent is the right choice to be starting back there because he fills a very valuable role, which is to stand back there, be robust, take a beating and then get up and then complete the next pass after he gets the shit kicked out of him. Yes. Whereas Drake May if you were back there he would get the shit kicked out of him and then looking competent afterwards.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yes. Yes. So Hank, this actually was a blessing for you because it's you're all the way out. Yeah. It's back to to tank mode. Yeah. We have no offensive line. Bad defense. Rookie rookie head coach. What can you expect with a team like this? Okay. So back to back to golf season. Get ready to get ready to learn golf. No, no, no. Golf season is over. I'm just,
Starting point is 00:08:18 you know, I'm thinking hungry dogs. I'm looking at hungry dogs trying to win some bets. Yeah. Paying attention to the, to the draft boards. So well, the good news is you won't have to watch them on Sunday, but then in, in the subsequent weeks, is there a world where we don't have the Patriots game on TV and you would be okay with that? Yeah. I mean, I'd probably just go watch it somewhere else. I don't know. But yeah. And we have it if it's week 8 and we're 1 in 6 Next week is at 49ers. Yeah, I mean that's Blunt dolphins Texans blood. Oh, yeah, that's uh,
Starting point is 00:08:57 I'm not gonna be able to get up for any of those games. Yeah. Yeah, you are I was up for this game. I was I was up for this game. I was thinking again, like I love Beating the Jets beating the Dolphins beating the Bills division opponent. We've had their number forever Memes was the the tension was becomes memes was nervous that it was gonna keep happening Yeah, no, he he thought he had the boogeyman on his mind He was in an impossible spot tonight PFT because he because he was, he was, he lives and dies with Jets.
Starting point is 00:09:28 He knows this window is very small with Aaron Rodgers and Hank was sitting there like, I might not even be in on this season. So if the Patriots is somehow beating the Jets with memes like ready to fight Hank, it could have, it could have gotten physical. And I said it during the stream, but memes is probably the top of my list of people who work in this office Who I could see them getting in a fistfight in this office and then me being like hey what happened like I don't know man I'm sorry things just got away from me and I just like yeah. All right. Yeah the Jets the Jets happened Hank look That's up. I would completely understand now Hank
Starting point is 00:10:04 This is like further education of how to be a loser. And you're going to have to listen to me and big catch advice on this. But one thing that you're going to get into as a fan of a losing team is you're just going to have to have to like scratch and claw to find joy. So there might be one good team that you guys will beat. And maybe you'll beat them next year. And maybe you'll beat them the year after that. And some reason you always beat one really good team. Then at the
Starting point is 00:10:24 end of the day, you could be yeah well guess what it's like what the Dolphins used to do to you no matter how bad the Dolphins were they'd be like yeah well we always beat the Patriots so you're gonna have to figure out what that maybe it's the Bengals maybe you just maybe you guys just have the Bengals number and you can start feeling happy about that any division win would be would be fun because it would piss off you know Dolphins Bills Jets all playoff contending teams. I guess dolphins maybe not, but either way, season's over. Spoiler season's over.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Memes, your team looks awesome. That win was very delicious. Ooh, delicious. All the insult stats were going around. We were 0-7 on primetime games against New England. There's no Bill Belichick anymore, so. Wait, was this the first time you guys beat them in a decade? I believe so
Starting point is 00:11:06 Oh my on prom wait, I'm gonna beat him Oh, no, no, but you when did you beat you beat him last year final game bill Belichick's final game as a Patriot? That's right. That's right. That was when you that when you did that. Okay. So yeah, this this is good for you memes You you got your swagger back It feels like all the angst from week one is gone now. You're two and one. You had an impossible start to the schedule in the fact that you played three games in 10 days. Yep. And now you get the Broncos at home. Broncos at home. Hopefully start three and one. Yeah. Broncos, Vikings at home, Bills at home. You guys might start
Starting point is 00:11:42 rolling a little. Offense looks good. Yeah. Defense started to look good today. Yeah. Special teams is firing. We have a good offensive line. Yeah. Morgan Moses going down was troublesome. That was bad, especially because we were blindfolded for that.
Starting point is 00:11:58 A lot of people are saying best case scenario is MCL sprain. Okay. That's not good. And then worst case scenario is just his entire knee. Oh But you have a first round pick that is coming in his back. Yeah, Oluf, Shana Yeah, Max said he's the best offensive line. Yeah And you guys did blitz a lot tonight So it's not like you missed having a dominant pass rusher you blitz way more than Robert Salah has ever blitzed
Starting point is 00:12:22 I think in his entire career as a head coach. Yeah, I think we're fifth in the league in defensive pressures. Wow. That's what happens when you get Bryce Huff off your team. Yeah, he was very good. And then once we saw him sign sign Hassan. Watch out hyperdrive hyperdrive. Oh, you don't want to say man. Do you think do you think this win makes it more likely or less likely that you'll sign Hassan Reddick in the next week? Less likely because we played the Broncos. The window to sign him is before the Vikings week, lose to Vikings and then sign him right after.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Okay, that's the plan. So you have a loss scheduled and then to sign him? Yeah. Okay. That like wouldn't be the worst loss is what you're saying. Or load up before the Vikings with him and then beat the Vikings. Got it. Okay. I like that. Um, yeah, it was a, it was an ugly, terrible game. It was Thursday night football is all the way back and uh, the jets look good and Hank it's over. We should talk quickly to other things before we do our NFL preview. Shohei Otani went 50-50.
Starting point is 00:13:29 He's actually 51-51 now. He had three home runs, six for six, three home runs, 10 RBIs. The dude is just insane. I don't really know what else to say besides he's the best baseball player in the world and it's crazy that he still, he could be of all time. I mean, if he keeps doing his career and there's still is, is there still like an outside chance he could maybe pitch this, this postseason? I know that he was, he was practicing in the bullpen. Like he's done all of this. He's
Starting point is 00:14:00 51 51 never been done in MLB. And oh yeah yeah when he decides he wants to pitch again. He's like three era pitcher Yeah, it's it's actually insane. I'd say that this he is the best baseball player of all time Whether or not he'll have the best career of all time is kind of up for grabs But we've never seen anybody that's doing what he's doing. It's insane 50 home runs 50 stolen bases If he was starting pitcher, he would be one of the probably top 10 starter in the entire MLB. It's crazy. It's crazy. We're almost getting desensitized. But shout out to the guy that caught the 50th home run because he just left the stadium.
Starting point is 00:14:36 He's like, I'm not giving it back. I'm not talking to anybody. Here's my number and you can reach me. You can contact me through my lawyer. And I know that Shohei's got money. I know what his contract is. He's got so much money that he could afford to be swindled out of what, like $5 million and not miss it. So yeah, I'll just hang on to this at home. Give me a call and make me an offer.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So wait, was that Darren Revelle? Because that is his advice that he always gives to everyone. If you catch a consequential home home run just leave the stadium right then and there and do not let anyone negotiate with you so might have been Ravello who caught it. It might have been Ravello or maybe Ravello's agent maybe maybe clit has gotten into the agent business. I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised um but yeah insane insane season. Listen Dodgers I'm not going to speak with you about this you can talk to my clit. That's that's what I would say. Um, he's just the best. It's the best. And I can't wait for the Dodgers to lose in the first round and then everyone to complain and say the playoff structure is broken. But we'll always have this 51 51 from Shohei. I mean, it is pretty impressive. It's
Starting point is 00:15:40 crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. Um, and then the last story woge has retired. So this happened on Wednesday afternoon Woge is retiring. He is if you if you followed along what like Shafi and some of the other insiders said You would have thought that woge had just done 30 years in at war With how they were describing it Shafi was laying it on pretty thick That's add that to the list of things that we're gonna make fun of him for at the combine But woge is retiring. He's gonna be the general manager of St. Bonaventure's basketball and he's getting his life back. He's getting his life back Yeah, I mean woge was the greatest to ever do it when he comes to the NBA scoop game
Starting point is 00:16:22 That's for sure like Shams big time come up for Shams having Woj step away. Now it's like a one man show. Price went up. Was Shams part of the reason why Woj stepped away? Because Woj didn't like the competition. I don't know if it was competition, but Shams, you know, is a McAfee's insider on ESPN and they used to take little shots at him. I don't know. Maybe I think if Shams was any of the reason why it's just because he made woge have to work so hard because woge could coast before Shams was around, but iron sharpens iron. Yeah. And in this case woge, he, I think he, he proved himself. Like I would say woge was still the
Starting point is 00:17:00 number one NBA insider over the last couple of years. But like we talked to him and the hours that he has to put in, it's insane. So he's essentially retiring from a dream job to take another dream job, being the general manager for his alma mater, right? He was in school there. And I think his job is just gonna be tweet about recruit, just like tag a recruit on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And it goes out to his six and a half million followers and then the recruits like damn that's awesome. What would you tweet about me. Yeah it's nice. I think I'll go to Saint Bonaventure. It's a big come up for Saint Bonnie's. Yeah no he's going to he's going to do the NIL roster management possibly but good for him. He's he gets his life back. It was it was tough sledding you know being an insider and it actually I mean we we interviewed woge We obviously are friends with Shepter. We've had Shams on we like him as well Their jobs do seem miserable in terms of the fact that they can just never turn off their phone. Well, yeah Yeah, exactly. He's got multiple phones that he always has to have on he has to stay up late all the time
Starting point is 00:18:01 He just lives in constant fear of getting scooped by somebody. Yeah. And I think Shams will probably go to ESPN, right? Because like I said, he is friends with McAfee and he's, he seems like the, the top free agent now. Like ESPN has got to scoop him up. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I don't know. The price for Shams definitely went up. Yeah. What were you going to say? Do you think woge will still break news? I think woge. Definitely. If he gets something that piss off Shams, I bet you he would. I think that he's it's just that he's not going to be like pressed to break everything.
Starting point is 00:18:36 But if he gets if he gets a piece of information, what's stopping him from still doing the job? Yeah, that's true. That's, I mean, yeah. Yeah, if he has all the contacts, if someone just sends him something, you would think he's got, yeah, I mean, he has to have relationships where they're like, I'm still only gonna send you stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:58 It was funny though, ESPN, yeah, had their panel of newsbreakers reacting to Wojcic's retirement. It was passing. It was Schefter. It was Pete Dammel. And as Schefter said this, he wanted his life back. He didn't want to have to work on holidays. He didn't want to be away from more family gatherings. He didn't want to have to take a shower with your phone up against the shower door so you can see a text that's coming in or take that sentence right there like he could have just been jerking off or take your phone
Starting point is 00:19:29 with you to the urinal and hold it in one hand while you take care of your business and the other that's a life that we live. Come on Chef D. Woj, thank you for your service Wo Whoa. Oh Man I wonder if chef he's gonna maybe see it like this is when I do yeah, this is this is like Shawshank He leaves the prison. He's like man. There's life on the outside I gotta get out of here gotta meet up chef T and chef T and woge meeting at a beach You know five years from now being like finally there. I actually think it's more likely that Shetty will start breaking more NBA news Yeah, he might cuz he probably had some but he usually would you know defer that to woe which because that's you didn't want to Step on his toes, but Shetty was doing like sidelines at NBA games. He was breaking. He was dabbling in it
Starting point is 00:20:20 He was checking it out. Yeah, there could be a vacuum there I could see you know an upstart young buck come out of nowhere and that's the person woe just actually just oh Ghost feeding all of this. Oh, there's all the scoops because I do think Shams is gonna go to ESPN But yeah, he could woe's could start if woe's if woe's if there is beef and they're probably definitely is Like woe's will just be like I'm out and then all of a sudden someone new is gonna come on just like Alfred and he finds a Batman yeah kind of thing he's just setting him up he's just he's living with this guy and he's just like this is how you do it could be one of Shepard's kids yeah I think yeah his daughter's in the business so why not just start dominating
Starting point is 00:21:03 everyone it's uh, uh, it was just, it was just very funny because we do like woge, but like, come on dude, like to add, not even to woge woge I'm happy for, but like anyone who reacted saying like, man, I can't believe this. Like he wanted to get his life back. It's like, okay. He also got paid a lot of money to do a job. That's, you know, pretty cool. It's pretty fun. Yeah. But to even act like it's somebody that's been like an athlete for 30 years, stepping away from it. His, his athletic feats were, yeah, showering and not slipping and dropping his phone and cracking it, staying up for 17 hours at a time to break news, uh, breaking news about athletes. Yeah. So it's a little bit different. And then the, the graphic that everybody was tweeting out that just had like
Starting point is 00:21:48 30 on it. Yeah. I guess I'm supposed to know what the 30 means. So funny. Um, all right, let's, let's, uh, let's get some football talk. Uh, let's kick it to ourselves. PFT will be back in studio. We taped this earlier in the day. Let's do football and then we got Spice Adams and Firefest Okay before we get to our weekend preview GameTime football season is here and we can't wait to get out to some games this fall with the help of GameTime the official Ticketing partner Barstool Sports, you know how much we love GameTime now with their brand new GameTime picks feature They're making it even easier to get to a game game time picks feature. They're making it even easier to get to a game. Game time picks filters out the fluff to show you only incredible deals on great seats so you don't have to
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Starting point is 00:23:52 deal, not trying to brag, but essentially deep passes still work but offenses are taking the bait with the two high safeties and just they're running the ball into light boxes and it's just not as effective. So teams that are still willing to push the ball downfield are doing okay. It's just that everyone's like, oh, well I guess we'll just, we'll dink and dunk and we'll run the ball
Starting point is 00:24:15 and it's just not working as well. I feel like there are ways around that too. I feel like offenses can adapt to it. Well, it's offenses that are doing a lot of motion, the Saints, the 49ers, some of these offenses that are trying to confuse the defense are still very effective. But there's a lot of offenses that are like, oh, light box, let me run. Oh, the run isn't really working, but we're going to keep doing it because that's what they're giving us. So stop taking the bait. Well, check down the home. Check down Patty. That's how he lives and dies by the check down. Yeah, so through two weeks we've had 29 QBs throw the ball at least 20 times with under 200 yards passing, which is pretty crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:49 That's the most for any season since 2008 and the second most for any start to the season since 1990. In weeks one and two, only 17 of the 64 quarterbacks have gone over one and a half passing touchdowns in a game. Again, these are not because we have rookie quarterbacks that have not thrown touchdowns, but these are just stats. It's a league wide issue. Yeah. There are also 24 QBs with one or fewer passing touchdowns with 20 plus pass attempts in week one, the most since the merger in 1907.
Starting point is 00:25:16 There you go. It's not our fault. And there have only been five 300 yard passing games so far this season, which is kind of crazy. Yeah, it's a trend. Listen, take what the defense gives you. And the craziest part is can you guys give us, can you name the top four guys currently, obviously it's two weeks, small sample size, top four guys in passing touchdowns? Top four guys passing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Baker. Baker is yes. Okay, that's good. Darnold. Yes. Baker, Donald. Mmm. Josh? No, it's Baker Mayfield. Kyler to a Kyler to a no. The
Starting point is 00:25:56 last is Derek Carr. So think about this. Think about if we were sitting here in August and we're like, hey, through two weeks, who's going to be the top top of the leaderboard and passing touchdowns? And I said Derek Carr Baker Mayfield Sam Darno and Kyler Murray you would have been you would have said you don't know ball Yeah, yeah, well Kyler. I think we we kind of predicted that Kyler was gonna have a good year I mean that I'm still I'm still buzzing off of that first half against the Rams because that was some of the best quarterback play I've ever seen yeah Kyler when he's not thinking when he thinking, when he's just going, he's so fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:26:25 So incredibly. He had that one touchdown pass where he started, he did the Steph Curry. Yeah. He threw it started celebrating before it was caught. Yeah. And we might have a new, a new, uh, title holder for the dumb rules. So it was Mike Greenberg's dumb rules. Whenever he would try to fix baseball every year. Uh, Mel Kuyper had dumb rule today. Mel Kuyper's dumb rule is to ban the too high safety formation on defense. Defense can't have anything. Stick to the draft buddy.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah. Mel Kuiper is not there to give takes. Mel Kuiper is there to tell me like who is going to be the best quarterback drafted in 2027. It's also exactly what I said, uh, this article that I read again, not a brag, but it's not the too high safety. It's that teams are taking the bait for it. Yeah. Like still push the ball down field. You can still be successful. You're just taking the bait and doing exactly, you're playing into their hands. Stop doing that. I also like taking what the defense gives you though. Yeah. But it's too much of that. It's too much of it. It's too much of it. All right. So a great slate. We'll do our picks at the end. I hate the two Monday night games. I hate it on Monday night when it's going on when it's concurrent
Starting point is 00:27:28 I love it. You do. Yeah, I don't like it. I don't want TV guys. So I love it I like having the one game that everybody's watching. It's kind of nice kind of come across as a one TV I have two TVs. Okay. All right. Well then that was the wins Hank We're making your faces already cuz he's getting iron locks up here and we've heard a couple people complain Jerry was complaining Someone else was complaining. I was like dude no offense, but you're coming across as a one TV guy And that's a little and you're talking that's Jerry. I've got two TVs. I can watch two games at the same time I do watch two games at the same time. I'm a little offended by Hank's stupid fucking face You got you know is the only you've seen the second TV in the basement. I guess I was I've been a while
Starting point is 00:28:09 I have it set up It's not on the wall But I've got two TVs ones on its own table so I can go man mode and watch two TVs at the same time Hey, also with YouTube TV. You only need one now Because you could just play the mix that's true Hank. I've been to your house. You only have one TV I have a one TV guy. Oh, yeah, you are. Yeah, so you're this is Projected dude. I'm not I'm not I don't like it either, but but he's also not a football You see Hank when you when you were saying the only one TV thing he was like, you gross that's you you're closeted one TV guy
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah, but also not a football fan. Yeah, so it doesn't matter I was I was three TVs control center for five years and I just I grew out of it Yeah grew out of the multi TV phase Yeah, so this is the only night of the year where I'm like damn I wish I had two TVs but you won't come over Yeah, maybe I don't I don't like the two games at the same time I like having the the tradition the the routine on Monday nights of having one game that I pay attention to. No, I love it. And the only reason why I do like it, I don't like it on Monday nights, but I like just having one less game on Sunday going on at the same time. I like it. I wouldn't, I wouldn't like it every single week. I like that they do it
Starting point is 00:29:20 once or twice a year. It's a nice little treat. They should also switch the games. I wish it was Bill's Bengals. Yeah, no. Commander's Jags. Bill's Bengals, Commander's Jags would be a perfect setup. And just start Commander's Jags at 10 o'clock. Yeah. And whenever the Jags are playing in prime time, it should be against the Tennessee Titans
Starting point is 00:29:39 and it should be on a Thursday night. Yeah. I like it just because you are guaranteed some type of drama on Monday night where it's like, there's nothing worse than a Monday night football where you just get a blowout. When you have two games, chances are you're going to get at least something good. Yeah, and we are, the commanders are on blowout alert. Yeah. For sure.
Starting point is 00:29:57 So are the Jags. All right, so let's get some games. Let's talk some games. These are early games. Houston, Texans going to the Minnesota Vikings 2-0 vs. 2-0. Did you see that Aaron Jones is trying to basically bring the Lambo leap to Minnesota now? I don't like that. Calling it the Bank Vault.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Okay, that's a good name. It's a good name. Now I'm kind of in on it just because it's got a sick name. I had the same exact thought where I was like you can't just do that but the bank vault is sick. The bank vault's really nice the only problem is there's a lot of teams that play in bank name stadiums. True. So they could kind of co-op that. But he was the first to it. It makes me want to bet him to score a touchdown just so we can see the bank vault. It does. I kind of I kind of like how Aaron Jones has also fallen into the just the the visual look-alike of the uh the Minnesota Vikings running back situations Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:46 for the last like four years. Yes. It's it's it looks like the same guy. This year it's Aaron Jones and he's playing pretty well. Sam Darnold is maybe will definitely come back player of the year at this point. At this point through two weeks. Yeah. If Ricky Pearsall gets on the field, it's probably going to be him.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Yeah. But through two weeks it's Sam and these two teams also have the league leaders in sacks Who how about that the two the two team leaders in said also is a Neil Hunter revenge game Didn't Neil Hunter revenge game and also Jonathan greener revenge game because he left the Texans for the Vikings By the way, speaking of Minnesota running backs. Do you guys know where Dalvin cook is now? Down boy. Yeah, he's on the Cowboys. Didn't know didn't realize that they're working them in. They have a running back. I Mike McCarthy is essentially decide his strategy
Starting point is 00:31:34 for running backs this year is everyone who doesn't do any fantasy research and they show up to their draft and like I know that name. Yeah, like I think I drafted Tony Gonzalez like seven years later than he should have been drafted Yes, I saw the name is like well. He's got to be still be good. Well the Cowboys got two of them. Yeah That's what his whole running back committee, which I kind of like yeah, I respect that he's he's just doing He's just doing old running backs that you kind of recognize and he's like yeah, that makes sense Yeah, so I if he like I I think Chris Johnson could still give him some yards.
Starting point is 00:32:06 He's fast, right? Yeah, and I wouldn't be shocked if they brought him in. Adrian Peterson. Yeah, absolutely. Put him on the field. Like, if you combine just a bunch of old guys that used to be dominant, I, in my dumb brain, will say one of them will end up popping.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Running back by committee, except like one of them has a healthy right leg, one of them has a healthy left leg. Yes, yes. So yeah, I'm excited for this game, because I think it's going to be a pretty big test of like which one, I think the Texans are for real. I actually think the Vikings might be for real too, but this is, this feels like a game where the winner of this we're going
Starting point is 00:32:36 to be saying, Whoa, three and oh, looking really good. Kind of control of their division too because you know, three and oh, we'll see what happens with the Lions and the Packers and the Bears But at least the Texans if they're a 3-0 that's gonna be a very big lead They everyone else in their division is 0-2 I am very interested to see how CJ shroud does against Brian Flores defense because did you see after the game? Brock Purdy was like you guys were just confusing the fuck out. Yeah, that's what Brian Flores does He does right and he doesn't even always have to blitz to do it. Sometimes he just fakes a blitz.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And he does that thing where the quarterback thinks that they're going to be under pressure. Then they're not. And then they just panic. And the four rushers can get home. So CJ Stroud, last year we started to do this. We shouldn't be doing it yet. But we should start thinking about it,
Starting point is 00:33:22 asking the classic Nick Wright question of is he throwing enough interceptions? So no interceptions yet. A lot of interceptions route he did it. He did not throw many interceptions last year. He tried to throw a couple against the Bears. Well, yeah, I think he leads the league in turnover worthy throws. He's just getting a lot of love that he's getting some some interception luck on that. Yeah. But we'll say this if he goes like two more games, no interceptions,
Starting point is 00:33:46 then we start to say CJ Stroud doesn't throw enough interceptions. Yeah. Do we have any takes on CJ Stroud in the Caleb Williams clip? Big bro-ing. Yeah, big bro-dom. It's a little early for the big bro. Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I have no problem with CJ Stroud doing it. I also have no problem with Caleb Williams being like, I just got sacked 100 times, got my ass kicked. I don't really want to stand here and just be told a everything's gonna be okay. Like let me If you're a competitor, I just don't want to do that. Nice. Nice. Oh, thank you so much They're also the same age. Yeah, so I could see how I'm fine with Caleb Williams reaction I know Hank thought that it was bad You you you said you mentioned something to me you like did you see that do you see that happen with Hank this is what Hank does it's it's like sometimes we're
Starting point is 00:34:29 too lazy to read the article so we just read the headline Hank sometimes is too lazy to watch the video so he just reads the headline takes from it it was Hank got aggregated you get aggregated so what would happen watch the video okay so what happened in the clip was CJ was like trying to give him words of encouragement He rolled his eyes, and then Caleb was like okay, okay? He acted in a perfectly normal way for somebody that just lost a game also she just shows mic'd up You don't think he was doing that a little bit to get a little extra juice on the mic'd up like welcome me I'm mic'd up. I
Starting point is 00:34:59 It was a also a perfect Encapsulation of the internet where whoever shared it, however you first consumed it, the caption just changed what you thought. Exactly. Yeah. You read the headline and didn't watch the video. Yeah. I watched the video. Okay. So you thought it was too much. Do you have any problem with CJ Stroud who is a very, very good quarterback two games into his second season, big bro and people. It was a little early for a big bro, but I just thought Caleb Williams body language is bad like he was a
Starting point is 00:35:27 little bit too cool for school I like a little bit too cool for schools pissed off no one's show me show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser yeah no that's true but he's just got a he's right now he's too cool for school he kind of said that in the offseason like oh yeah we're gonna you know he's he's cocky at some point he's he's cocky at some boys gonna back it up it's cool if like if he can back it up all good if he doesn't then it's gonna be like oh maybe you should have been a little more you know receptive and open to your peers of the comments you think that was you
Starting point is 00:35:59 think that if he had been more receptive of CJ shroud saying hey don't worry it's gonna be okay he would be okay maybe yeah he didn't say anything how would you have liked him to respond he didn't say anything he wasn't like hey man he like rolled his eyes yeah but if CJ shroud came up he's like hey man i saw that one play this is actually how you're gonna want to read the safety goal yeah that's a little much yeah okay you should probably listen but he literally just said it's okay man keep your head up he was doing it for the camera CJ shroud shroud was and Caleb was a little bit dismissive. It's not, it's not a, it's not a huge deal. I just think when it's all said and done, if things don't turn around, then it's not going to look great. That will be the point.
Starting point is 00:36:36 What are you going to say, Max? The, you brought up the punt thing. Have we talked about the punt thing? Yeah. Everyone talks about the punt thing. Have we talked about the pun? He said to Tory Taylor, you're not going to pump much guess what did you not hear about the offense being down? league wide Puns are up puncher Punch her up to figure no kill was had no idea that punts were gonna be in vogue this year You can't predict that stuff. It's like inflation. You can't get that and also a choice There's a really good punter.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Maybe he's just, Caleb Williams being a good teammate. Guess what? Credits to Ryan Poles for getting ahead of the league-wide trend. Correct. The punts are going to be up and using a draft pick on a punter. Actually yeah, if Ryan Poles had taken Tori Taylor 1-1, I would have been fine with it, with how people are using their punters these days. And the way the league's going these days, you want to be ahead of that new trend.
Starting point is 00:37:24 The new wrinkle is going to be just pun just punting more when everyone zigs we zag okay next game chargers and Steelers This one's gonna be gross gross gross gross. I think it's Steelers minus one and a half over under 35 and a half I So we had a new Tomlin we had a new Tomlin drop Mike Tomlin was talking about the petty game ball. And a new hardball. And a new hardball. We had a petty game ball that he gave to Russell Wilson after the Steelers beat the Broncos, which a petty game ball, Russell Wilson didn't play in the game, but it was a petty game ball. And a reporter asked him to go deeper and he said, I can't give you all the ingredients to the hot dog. You might not like it.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Yeah. He might've stolen that from Justin Fields, who's a vegan, trying to like sway him into not eating meat anymore. He's like, you know what goes in a hot dog, coach? His lips an asshole. Yeah. So he's, uh, I, yeah, I, I, I liked the petty game ball. And then the new Harbaugh, uh, was very funny. He said, like Moses, I'm going to die leaning on my stack. Yeah, that's a really good one. So I looked into that quote and it's not the first time Harbaugh said this. He said it back in January. He said, I'm going to like Moses, I'm going to die leaning on my staff, implying that he would die leaning on his, uh, his coordinators and the other coaches and you know, everybody
Starting point is 00:38:40 that happens to be working with Jim Harbaugh. And he said this at Michigan. Yeah. So he was implying like, I will die leaning on Conor Stallions. Well, you never met Conor Stallions. Never met Conor Stallions, not his staff. Moses, he's implying died leaning on his staff, his physical staff, right?
Starting point is 00:38:54 I looked into that quote. He actually stole that quote from Lou Holtz. Oh. But when Lou Holtz said it, he said that he's gonna be like Peter dying leaning on his staff. That's also a wrong quote because Peter was crucified. The actual guy that leaned on his staff was Jacob. So it's like we're playing a game of football guy telephone right now
Starting point is 00:39:15 and hardball is just rolled into the whole Moses thing. Moses does hit harder. What about Seth? How'd Moses die? Moses died wandering the desert. Yeah, he never made it. What about Seth? Seth, the brother of Cain and Abel. Yeah, the third brother. No died wandering the desert. Yeah. He never made it. What about Seth? Seth, the brother of Cain and Abel. Yeah. The third brother. No one talks about Seth. Yeah. His name is Seth and he was not selling a biblical name at all. Sounds made up. People talk. All they do is talk about Cain and Abel fucking put some respect on Seth's name. Yeah. Seth was, Seth was the Cooper Manning of that family. Um, but yeah, so that was a great quote, uh, from Harbaugh. I don't really understand what it means, but I like it. I also think that Harbaugh
Starting point is 00:39:51 may have saved one of his players' lives this week. Oh, cause they stayed out East, right? Yeah. So they stayed in Charlotte and they're going up to Pittsburgh for the time zones. Jim Harbaugh is a big believer in sleep preparation. He just wanted to watch his team sleep. Probably. Yes. He wanted to make sure that they were all in the same place. He wants to keep them in hotels that Herbert has a chance of getting stuck in elevator. Yeah. But Joey Bosa's house got broken into on Monday. Well, there was an alarm that went off. The cops showed up. The cops went into the house with their weapons drawn because they had an alarm.
Starting point is 00:40:23 It turns out it may have been a false alarm. It was like the wind that set it off. But if Joey Bosa had been home, the cops breaking in with their guns, Joey Bosa's, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's probably a gun owner. It could have gotten messy if he hears people breaking into his house. So Harbaugh might have saved Joey Bosa's life.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I think this team is circling the wagons. Yeah, they also, they were doing like some type of community service. They were they also, they were doing like some type of community service. They were, I think they were boxing lunches for homeless people or something. He was doing like a food pantry, right? And they, the food pantry owner said that they actually broke the record for most lunches box in an hour and Harbaugh was like, fuck yeah, he definitely, he definitely, like
Starting point is 00:41:03 asked them beforehand, what's the record? And then he told them, we gotta beat this record. I got a question for you guys. This is high level handicapping of football. There's a report out there from Joey Bosa. He says that Jim Harbaugh has told Justin Herbert, no more high fives when coming off the field to protect his hands.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Is that a good thing or a bad thing in terms of team vibes? So was that was that Bose's idea or was that Harbaugh's idea? It's Harbaugh's idea but he told Bose to no more like Herbert no more high fives. Walking off the field no more high fives. I feel like that's gonna hurt the team. I don't know. It helps his hand but you gotta give a guy a high five every now and then. Can we go left hand?
Starting point is 00:41:45 Maybe fist bump? Fist bump? Trent Dover fist bumps his players all the time. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I don't know. I saw that and I was like, okay, we're really going, it's just Harbaugh's going crazy. I think Harbaugh's gonna have like seven or eight different things that he's
Starting point is 00:42:00 gonna come up with. Like small little details that he's gonna change the rules on this year. I don't know, if you're Harbaugh, like human body craves contact. Let your quarterback high five somebody. Yeah. What if they just start kissing their boys? Oh. A little smooch coming on.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yeah. I like that coming. Yeah. A little smooch. I like that a lot. The first European football team? Yeah, I think this game is going to be gross though because I think the Steelers defense is legit legit And this is a game where the Chargers, you know, they've run the ball very well, but it's a Greg Roman offense
Starting point is 00:42:34 Obviously Tomlin knows it because he was with the Ravens I don't know if they'll be able to pass it on the Steelers and then the Steelers Justin Fields. He's He's done enough to not make a mistake, but it hasn't been an explosive offense. They don't have a ton of weapons. So I think we're going to get one of those maybe 12-10 type of games. That would be classic. Yeah. And I bet both coaches would love that.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Yeah. Tomlin also said he was talking about the Ross versus Juss thing that he's got going on. He says, we're ready in a plan that features Justin and his readiness, which is a great Tomlin is yeah, they're like the readiness factor for Justin is higher than it is for for Russ right now. And then I saw a couple articles, quarterbacks get injured, you start to talk about which teams have a luxury at the
Starting point is 00:43:20 quarterback situation. I saw a couple saying like, what if the what if the Dolphins traded for Russ Wilson? Hmm, that would be a great move probably by the, by the Steelers. I was gonna say not for the Dolphins. Yeah. You sign, you sign Russ Wilson for basically nothing. Yeah. But then you can trade them. You just don't have a quarterback. You don't have a quarterback anymore. Yeah. All right. Bears and Colts. I think this is the week boys. I think this is the week. I think the
Starting point is 00:43:46 Bears are going to run down your faces where the podcast listeners are going to be like they just pick on Hank. He just went like this like that. He did that one more time. Do it one more time. No, no, no. You do it one more time. That's what he did. That's the face he made when I just said that I that's probably the same phase a lot of you listening to the podcast made the Colts defense is very bad. They give up the most rushing yards. They have divorced Buckner's now out. You can't divorce. Buckner's out. He's never won a ring. The secondary is banged up a little bit. I think this is the week that the offense looks good. I think the Bears are going to win. Obviously this is a very important game for me in terms of discourse because if Anthony Richardson outplays Caleb Williams, I'm going to be in trouble.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Anthony Richardson does have, I think he has 49% completion percentage. I know there's been some drops, but he does have the best offensive line in the NFL. So he's got a ton of time. His offensive line is playing really, really well right now. So that makes all his like, you know, the interceptions and the low completion percentage makes it stand out a little bit more. He played so bad against the Packers last week. He was very, very bad. Yeah. I do agree with you. I think the Bears are going to run the ball down their throats because the Indy run defense is terrible. And the Titans and the Texans, run defense is terrible. And the Titans and the Texans, I believe will go, will by the end of the season will both
Starting point is 00:45:08 be top 10 defenses. The Colts will not. So I think this is one of those situations where your first two weeks you're playing really, really good defenses. Now you take a big step down and things just work easier. I think the offensive line will block better. Darnell Wright has been really, really good. He was really, really bad against the Texans. I don't think that's going to happen
Starting point is 00:45:28 again. I just think everything's going to look a lot better. The defense for the Bears has been awesome in the second half too. I think they've only allowed three points in the second half this year. Yeah. And that was just kind of a fair bar and like 75 yard field goal. Play too high. Play too high safeties because Anthony Richardson, the reason I like watching him play is because he's electric when he runs with the ball and he takes mega shots downfield. Yeah. He's mega man at quarterback. He only goes downfield, which explains why his completion percentage is lower, but he's not taking what the defense gives him. Yeah. I also just want to say this game, the bears win this game. Everything is on path. Everything
Starting point is 00:46:03 looks good because there's been a lot of panicking. I actually don't think Bears fans are panicking. I think it's more just the Hanks of the world, the, you know, Colin Coward's just trying to, trying to force panic on us. Very similar. I don't have to force panic on you at all. The Bears are one and one. The Bears are one and one before the season. I had the Texans as a loss. Like I, when we did the schedule, I was like, like we're gonna lose to the Texans. Yeah, thank you do force them you force panic Oh you with questions. I do have one question. Okay, here's doing his dad. Yeah, I saw it He shared a clip on Twitter fine
Starting point is 00:46:37 Wide open don't you want don't you want? Family members watching tape. Yeah, well for Odell. Yeah. I want my, I want my, I want it. It takes a lot of tape, not publicly post. He's create discourse against your son. Hank, I also, are you going to, are you gonna tell the full story? I'm going to ask a question to Hank. Wait, hold on. But he also posted a clip that is basically said, uh, Roman didn't say runs a great route But Caleb Williams gets pressured so fast. He has no chance Okay, so did you read the headline of Roma doon's a dad's I didn't see I watched the clip
Starting point is 00:47:16 He posted I didn't see the other clip he posted. Okay. Did he post a clip of Roma doons a dropping a touchdown catch? I don't think so. Okay, so it's not select. So maybe a cable that should post that What about the reports of DJ more liking Justin Fields better? a touchdown catch. I don't think so. Okay. So maybe K. Williams that should post that. What about the reports of DJ Moore liking Justin Fields better? DJ Moore did like Justin Fields better. DJ Moore apologized for his body language on Sunday night, which I thought was bad. Like DJ Moore, he just stopped running routes. DJ Moore is. He also said that thing to Tyson Badge and that no one really knows what he said, but some people are saying have what he said. Oh, we're not lip reading experts. We're lip reading experts. We need you out here to Tyson Badgent. No, DJ Moore. I think TJ. That's crazy. You don't try to put panic
Starting point is 00:47:56 on me. That's crazy. DJ Moore is has to, he just got paid. He's a number one. He's on a team with a rookie quarterback, a rookie wide receiver, an offensive line that's been struggling. DJ Moore has to step up and be a leader. And I think that that was a moment where he realizes his body language and the way he reacted was probably not great. He admitted that in press media this week. DJ Moore is going to be a lot better and this is going to be different. I'm watching the clip right now. There's no panicking.
Starting point is 00:48:27 DJ Moore walking down the sideline. It looks like he might say, dog, I need you to Tyson Bajor. No, he was saying, he was saying dog, that was a sick throw and Caleb Williams is going to go off against the Colts. He might've also said that. Yeah. I'm not sure. Here's what it comes down to when it comes to lip reading videos. Whatever you say in the caption is what he
Starting point is 00:48:48 said. I will believe that. Yeah, I'm highly suggestible to believing what people say. Now I'm not panicking. I just realized though, I am literally I've been going like this, this entire segment. So I'm not panicking. I wouldn't panic. I'm not. I think Caleb will be fine. Who was talking about panicking? I mean, I mean the funny guys the funniest Would be funny would be if the Bears beat the Colts Oh, but they ran for like four touchdowns and Caleb didn't throw a touch. I wouldn't give a fuck I want to win games Actually, I want the Bears to go on a huge winning streak and for some reason Caleb just not throw touch now
Starting point is 00:49:24 He can have as many yards as he wants. Yeah. Just to watch that discourse build up. Fine. Love it. Max. Another question. Again, you guys, you guys are, you guys know how to, you're funny. You guys are really funny. The panicking stuff. You say that you just want the bears to win. What if there's like, what if Caleb Williams throws for 375 for touchdowns, but they lose off of like special teams turnovers, like something flukey like that. But Caleb Williams goes 375 for touchdowns or. We did this last week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I'd consider taking that this week. You would definitely. I'd consider. I said I'd consider taking that this week. You would definitely I'd consider I said I'd consider taking that this week. What if he throws for 300 yards for touchdowns the Bears lose. Tori Taylor gets injured. But Anthony Richardson throws for 400 yards in five touchdowns. I do not want that. I'm gonna it's good. It's just football guys. Come on. There's more things to life. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:25 No one wants the Bears to be better than me. No, you're a liar. You're a liar, and you lie. We have a People Forget That for this week, too. The combined age for Caleb Williams, 44, five years younger than the starting quarterbacks in Utah, Oklahoma State. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I mentioned that on Wednesday. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. It's a People Forget That. I've seen it everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, okay Giants at Browns Yeah, gross
Starting point is 00:50:51 Yeah, it's Conklin gonna play If he plays then I think I like the Browns. I I kind of want to bet on the the Giants this week No, I don't hate it. I know it's gross, but this too gross bets out there Yeah, there's more than two There's more than two. I mean the Panthers will get to that one's for sure I do think that if the Giants lose this game the Brian Dable hot seat. It's officially it's hot So I want to take the Giants in this game. I am worried about Daniel Jones Against the Blitz you saw it week one against Brian Flores defense. Jim Schwartz is going to do something similar. Like Daniel Jones played okay against the
Starting point is 00:51:32 commanders because their defense can't do the things that the Browns defense and the Vikings defense can do. Like play defense. Play defense. I saw a very funny stat, I believe. Wait, wait was it oh, I think Daniel Jones was the only NFC East quarterback. Oh, no Never mind. I don't have the stat They were the only team to oh No, I have the stat the commanders were the only team in week two NFC East team in week two to not score a touchdown
Starting point is 00:52:01 They were also the only NFC East team to win Interesting. Yeah, also the only NFC's team to win. Interesting. Yeah. The Giants. I said it. I said the stat in the inverse way on on Monday's show, but the Giants were the first team in NFL history to lose a game where they scored three touchdowns. Yeah. And their opponent didn't score a single touchdown. That's never happened before. Yeah. Did you know that Amari Cooper's 30 years old? That seems right. Oh, I thought he was older. No, that seems about he's just been around for a while Yeah, that seems like we've seen him for for a long time Yeah, I think I like the Giants this week. I know it's stupid
Starting point is 00:52:32 I know there's really no no reason to love the Giants, but but I do there's a couple Yeah, the Giants are definitely in the catching catcher falling knife team category where it's like you're gonna you're gonna do it eventually knife team category where it's like, you're going to do it eventually. Yeah. You just hope you time it well. You think, you think Dable brought in a clip of the Saquon Barkley drop and showed it to Mr. Mara? I was like, look. He might've.
Starting point is 00:52:54 He's a loser. He's a losing, a losing player. He's a losing running back. Shout out to Giants. That actually was probably their, that was their win, first win of the season. Yes, that was huge. first win of the season yes I was safe on dropping that fans were celebrating heavily mr. Mara got his first night of sleep this season yes yes okay yeah this is a gross game I don't
Starting point is 00:53:15 know what to do with it I think this is one of those games too you have them every Sunday where you can point to it be like whatever I choose I'm gonna be wrong. Yeah. Yeah, so Eagles and Saints max Max are we overreacting to the Saints or overreacting to the Eagles? neither Okay, we're correct about both. Yeah So we've been saying that the Saints are great and that the Eagles stink the line would say we're overreacting to the Saints and overreacting to the Saints and overreacting to the Eagles Neither okay, okay
Starting point is 00:53:50 I'm worried for you Max without AJ Brown. Oh, yeah. He's he's the guy that you need to beat the Saints defense And he's not there Also max would you like to comment on the fact that Reid Blankenship said after the game? We're a player led team at the end of the day, we know what we did is on us. So they don't need coaches in Philadelphia is pretty much what he said. You're talking about how Jalen Hurts did all of the time. No, no, how Reid Blankenship said we're a player-led team. Where's Memes? He's coming.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I don't know. We don't know where Memes is? memes? He's coming. I don't know. We don't know where memes is. He said he's he said he's coming Wait, I didn't realize memes wasn't back there Hey, Pug. All right Pugs here. He's the Eagles fan Pug What do you think about the the comment that Reid Blanket shit made about Jalen Hurts saying? He talked to the team after and said we're a player-led team at the end of the day So they don't even need coaches Yeah, they are a player-led team. It's true. So no, so do they not need coaches?
Starting point is 00:54:53 Just coordinators just coordinators. They need coordinators. No head coach Pug. Okay, so just get rid of I didn't love what he just said there We do need coaches coaches coaches are good coaches are you know? They're not talented right now or all you need them wait the coaches like they're not talented right now It talents not something you can just like Doesn't go up and down. No. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a hot and cold thing I've already either have it or you don't my report card on the Eagles, but max Are you saying that the coaches lack talent right now just right now? Yeah, they're not talented at being coaches currently Okay, just currently things can change so it's a coaching issue for the coaches correct
Starting point is 00:55:36 They need to get more talent out of themselves correct But I also like your leaders stepping up and being leaders right so like jail and hurts There the report was after the game Jalen hurts took over the locker room And he was the one that spoke and Nick Sirianni didn't say anything and then when asked about it later He goes Jalen hurts that everything that I needed that I needed that would have been funny if Jalen hurts was talking and because Nick Sirianni is So Italian he was just doing sign language in Italian also say this I Italian, he was just doing sign language in Italian. Also say this.
Starting point is 00:56:05 I also think the players may respect Jalen Hurts more than Nick Sirianni. You think? So I kind of, so I don't hate Jalen Hurts taking over that role of motivating the players. So you don't have a coach? No, he's not very good. No, you don't have a coach. We have J's not very good. No, you you don't have a coach
Starting point is 00:56:28 We have Jay. We have Jalen hurts great leader. Okay coach So who makes up the game plan yeah Who sets a schedule that could be the coach? No, wait sets a schedule. That's the NFL No, like no practice like all right, this is what we're gonna do the actual schedule of like all right This one we're gonna leave practice tomorrow at eight o'clock like I I'm saying you know motivation. You know that that's all on jail So what what did it what would it be that you would say Nick Sirianni does I I told you we're not they're not Overreacting about the Eagles right no Not an overreaction what I'm saying just like I'm not panicking you're not overreacting no I'm saying That the they're right about their overreacting. No, no, no. I'm saying that they're right about their overreaction
Starting point is 00:57:07 with the Eagles. OK, what is it? So it's not an overreaction. Oh, it's fair. It's fair reaction. So it sounds like they've been having players only meetings this entire time. No, I think that it started after.
Starting point is 00:57:19 It's kind of just like a cock chair situation. They're having players only meetings, but Nick Sirianni is sitting there. He's watching. Yeah. Nick Sirianni definitely thinks he's on a text chain with all of his offense and they're on a side text chain. Yeah, for sure. So listen, it's not good. I'm not over here trying to convince you that it's good. It's bad. Also, I got into the film room a little bit.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I did too. I watched the all 22 of Caleb not that bad I watched I didn't watch the all 22 I watched one thread of a guy of a guy who watched the all 20. Okay, nice The D line is so much worse than you could possibly imagine. Yeah, it's it's really bad. They're averaging I think they have the worst run defense in the NFL. I have a pick. I have a solution for you I have a guy I have something okay What you you. I have a guy. I have something. Okay. You go. I have a guy that you guys can get. He was first in pressure rate in 2022 and third in pressure rate in 2023 and you can have him. Do you want him? Aaron Donald? No.
Starting point is 00:58:19 His name's Bryce Hoff. Oh no, he sucks. He was first impression rate two years ago, third last year, and so far through two weeks he's tied for 146th. Yeah. So this is what happened. He has, you know what his stats are this year? He has one stat. Can you guess what it is? A combined tackle.
Starting point is 00:58:38 He has one assisted tackle. Yes. He has a 67% missed tackle rate. Oh. That's not good. He... Well, no. Hold on. 33% of the time he's he has a 67 percent miss tackle rate. Oh, that's not good. He Well, no, hold on 33 percent of the time. He's tackling someone. Yeah You're a cling. Yeah zero hurries 33 percent of the time. He's getting 50 percent of a tackle Also, this is the worst part of it all. Oh, there's oh, there's more. This is what I'm this is what I found through the tape
Starting point is 00:59:10 The Falcons game plan was to stop Jalen Carter no matter what, so they were doubling the tackle and the guard on Jalen Carter every play and going one on one with a tight end in Bryce Hough. That's not good. That's bad. And he wasn't getting any pressure. Zero pressure, one on one tight end. Wow. Wow. I only saw a couple plays because like I said, it was a thread end. Wow. Wow. Mmm.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I only saw a couple plays because like I said it was a thread. It was a thread, right. But that's what that thread told me. What about another player, Max, that might be available? He hasn't played this year. Aaron Donald? No, he hasn't played this year, but he knows the system. Even though like...
Starting point is 00:59:38 He knows the town, he knows the fans. Fletcher Cox? He doesn't mind getting booed. No, he's... it's not Fletcher Cox? He doesn't mind getting booed. No, it's not Fletcher Cox. Chris Long? No. Namdi Asimov? No, his name is Hassan Reddick.
Starting point is 00:59:52 No, yeah, I mean, you heard me try to make the trade. Yeah, the trade was actually executed, I believe. I don't think it was ever executed. He wanted a second. He wanted a second. I would only give him a third. Yeah. So the bad news is, for the Eagles,
Starting point is 01:00:04 you're playing against the best offense in the NFL. I know it's only through two weeks Yeah, but it's it's a record-setting offense through two weeks and It's not really a good position for a get-right game You guys you guys would absolutely love to go up against like a bottom-tier offense. I don't like feel better I don't like the Eagles winning this game. I I I believe in the Saints. I And I don't believe in the Eagles. The pass rush is just, the D-line is going to ruin the is and no AJ Brown. No, I don't feel good about this game. And Nick Sirianni making decisions of any kind. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:41 He just needs to be, he's, and we say it all the time when we like defend Dan Campbell, just have some consistency, Nick Sirianni. You know? Well, you go for it. You, you, you, you go for it in the first half. You don't go forward at the end of the game. What are you doing? Agree. Just have consistency, stick to a plan. Just be like, this is the way we're going to run this operation and we're going to do do it this way and that's what we're doing But yeah, I yeah, I think the Saints are I think the Saints are for real I know they one of their two games half of their sample size against the Panthers, but I still I like the Saints I think they're flying around on defense too. That's the part that's a little surprising to me and the offense looks it's it's different
Starting point is 01:01:22 It's different from the Saints offenses that we've seen in the past It's more there's more complications. There's more motion So it puts a lot of pressure on the defense and just don't run the pre even defense Do you think we gave the Saints coach a little bulletin board when we when we picked him last and the I can't still can't remember His name, but Dennis Allen Dennis Allen when we when he was the last overall pick in our coaches draft No, I think he's used to it by now. No, and I don't really attribute any of the start for the Saints on Dennis Allen. He doesn't get into credit. It's Clint Kubiak.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Yeah. There's another Kubiak. Yeah, I know. He's got a brother. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. All right, that was fun. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:57 We got two more early games. Broncos at bucks. So this is a gross one, Hank. I think I might take the Broncos. That is a gross one. I saw that was it six and a half? It's six and a half. So my thought process is- It's a sucker line. I thought about it too though. The Broncos have played the Seahawks on the road week one with Bo Nicks and then they played a very good Steelers defense. I think the Bucks defense obviously super banged up.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Baker's been phenomenal. I do think Baker is probably playing a little bit above where he's gonna end up average-wise. So, yeah, I don't know. I also, it's gross for every single reason because do you know the record for the Broncos in the last eight games? Last eight games?
Starting point is 01:02:45 One and seven. No. Oh and eight. Oh and eight is actually partially correct. They're two and six. They're two wins. We're both against Easton Stick. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:56 So yeah, pretty much oh and eight. We also had Sean Payton said after the game on Sunday, we have to start really looking at who we are asking to do what, what scheme fits our players, what scheme fits our quarterback. It's your quarterback and your scheme, Sean. That's yours. Yeah. Who are you asking? You should have asked that question before the draft. You should ask that question before the draft, mini camp, training camp, preseason, week one. You shouldn't be asking the question now.
Starting point is 01:03:27 He's going to try to figure it out in as many ways possible. So you talked about using more RPOs. Yeah. Against him. He's just going to throw a lot of shit at the wall, see what sticks. The one thing I will say that's good for the Broncos is Sean Pate knows the division. Yeah. He knows the Bucs pretty well.
Starting point is 01:03:40 That's true. He's got one really good player on defense and Patrick Sertan. Yep. And I don't know if you stick him on Mike Evans for the whole game. That means that Chris Godwin is just going to eat you alive because Chris Godwin has been playing really well this year. The Lions just weren't covering him. Again, this is gross. I just think that the Bucs, it's pretty much the NFL. You're never as bad as everyone thinks you are. You're never as good as everyone thinks you are. Everyone thinks the Bucs are incredible. Everyone thinks the Broncos are the worst. It's got to be somewhere
Starting point is 01:04:08 closer to the middle. Yeah, probably. But I mean, I see six and a half. Yeah. And I just, I want to take it. But I imagine again, this is one of those blinking red light situations where it's like, if I love a bet that much, you probably should not take it. Yeah. I just think Bo Nicks might be a little bit better because Sean Payton might actually start thinking about his quarterback in the scheme So it's like with Bo Nix They might do kind of what the the Falcons had to do at the end of the game with Kirk Cousins Which is just go out there like make build the entire offense out of your two-minute drill Yeah, that's what I wanted them to do with Justin Fields forever. Yeah, just let him just go out there and sling it
Starting point is 01:04:40 Okay, speaking of another stinky one Packers of Titans Malik Willis, so we're doing the Jordan Love fake, he's gonna play thing. I don't think Jordan Love is gonna play. He was in practice. But I don't think he's gonna play. There's, there's no reason for the Packers to risk playing him is this week. What they're doing, I think is essentially a play action fake before the game. Yeah, it's part of Matt LaFleur strategy. Yeah, they're like, get ready for the pass, we're going to pass it, and then Malik's going to play and we're just going to run the ball again. They have, they've already, the Malik Willis era in Green Bay is already a success.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Because when Jordan Love went down in the first week of the season and you said, hey, he's going to miss, you know, whatever, three to four games. If you're a Packer fan, if you're in the Packers organization, like if we can eke out one or two wins in this stretch, we're good. So they have the Vikings next week, which will be big for the NFC North. And why would you play Malik Willis or sorry, why would you play Jordan Love against a very good defense in the Titans? I think it's all smoke screens. I think it's Malik Willis again. I also liked the Titans Malik Willis revenge game, but not it's all smoke screens. I think it's Malik Willis again. I also like the Titans.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Malik Willis revenge game. But not really because of that quote. He did say I could care less. Yeah. I think I got paid the whole time I was there. Yeah. Which is, that's a good way to look at it. He's got perspective.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yeah, he said shout out Miss Amy, which I love whenever they throw a miss on a, Miss Amy, the owner of the Titans. Yeah, no, I kinda would want my quarterback to be a little more like, yeah, it's a fucking revenge game. Yeah. Fuck yeah, it is. Yeah, but again, if Malik Willis was like, yes,
Starting point is 01:06:10 it's a revenge game, then he goes in there and he wants to do too much Malik Willis. Yeah. Like last week, the Packers dialed down the Malik Willis level to like 0.5 out of 10, and they won the football game. If you crank that knob up and you're like, we're going 7 out of ten Malik Willis That's when he starts to do Malik Willis things. Yes. I I so here's here's my case for the Titans
Starting point is 01:06:31 their first two games went basically exactly the same where their defense balled out they got a punt blocked and Will Leves had a horrendous turnover that fucked him One was a pick six against the Bears. The other was fumble backwards on the six yard line going in. I'm doing visualization. There's been a lot of talk, you know, Brian Callahan motherfucking Will Levis will Levis actually saying yeah, of course he motherfuck me. I'm an idiot.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I was motherfucking myself. I think this is going to be a four or 330 central time, whatever 430 central time. The picture is Will Levis and Brian Callahan arm in arm smiling. We finally got a win. We did it. Everything's working. That's just my visualization for this game. It sounds like a daydream. It might be a daydream. I also have a stat for you that's pretty remarkable from CBS Research. The Titans are 0-2 despite allowing the fewest total yards in the NFL. The last time that happened that a team started 0-2 with allowing the fewest total yards in the
Starting point is 01:07:38 NFL through two weeks was the 1994 Cardinals who actually started 0-3 and ended up finishing 8-8. My point behind all that is the Titans are probably better than started 0-3 and ended up finishing 8-8. So my point behind all that is the Titans are probably better than their 0-2 record. They'll be in some of these games. They were in both their games. Yeah, and listen, some of those yards came on turnovers that were deep in your opponent's territory. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:00 So that's not doing any favors. And again, Malik Willis, that was a phenomenal game plan against the Colts. Matt LaFleur is a really, really good coach. I expected that out of Matt LaFleur. He threw some wrinkles. He played to their strengths. I just think this Titans defense is different than the Colts defense,
Starting point is 01:08:14 where you're not gonna be able to run the ball like you did. And Malik Willis is gonna be pressured in a way that the Colts weren't able to pressure Malik Willis. Are you a little bit worried that the Packers have fixed their defense? They might've fixed a little bit of their the Packers have fixed their defense? They might have fixed a little bit of their defense. Yeah. So they they didn't went from a head coaching job in college to defensive
Starting point is 01:08:31 coordinator. Yeah, they didn't turn the ball over last year on defense. And now I think they lead the league in interception. They did play Jalen Hurts and Anthony Richardson. It's true. Yeah, that's true. You know, they're gonna lump Jalen in with Anthony for turnovers. Okay. Okay The I know the Packers defense is good I think that the Packers are a good team and it's it's I expected them to win last week Like like I said, this is how good organizations run you lose your quarterback and they still find a way to tread water
Starting point is 01:08:59 I just I'm I'm buying the Titans. It's a stupid They'll probably end up losing by seven somehow lead the game all game and then lose by seven, but I'm gonna do it I don't hate it. I don't hate it And I in fact I like betting on teams that look really really bad against teams that just look really really good, right? It's a good formula right and and the Titans defense is very very good and because of their own to record I think they're getting overlooked a little bit Okay before we do the afternoon games guess what goes with football pardon my cheesesteak football is back in full gear and ordering pardon my cheesesteak for your game day meal or late night eats
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Starting point is 01:10:09 order yours now at PardonMyCheesesteak.com, use code AWL for free delivery. Okay, afternoon slate boys, some good ones. Not a great one, but let's talk about it. Panthers at Raiders. Yeah. Stinky. Not a great one, but let's talk about it Panthers at Raiders. Yeah, I think we didn't mention by the way We should have mentioned that We should have predicted on Sunday night that Bryce Young was a hundred percent gonna lose his job because Dave Canales did say Bryce Young is our quarterback. Yeah, 24 hours later. He was like just kidding Andy Dalton's our quarterback. There's no Better sign of a quarterback not being your quarterback anymore than saying Bryce Young is our quarterback the old lovey wrecks our quarterback Now that's just that's that's the death knell for a quarter. You might have just said Bryce Young is a quarterback
Starting point is 01:10:54 He is all and everyone but he said are yeah. Yeah, there's reports that Bryce Young was pissed. Well, of course, he's pissed He's probably pissed at himself. He's probably embarrassed. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's been, it's been pretty embarrassing, uh, what he's put on tape for the last season in two games. It's really, really crazy to think that they went this entire off season, didn't play him in the preseason except for like one drive. And then they're like, okay, I think we're good to go with Bryce. So yeah, you can say, I think two things are true. I think you can say, uh, the organization failed them. Yeah. And you can also say that Bryce doesn't look like he's very good at playing quarterback at the NFL level on his own. Right. It's also very apparent the organization failed him in the fact that
Starting point is 01:11:35 there are two Panthers quarterbacks who are leading the league in touchdowns. Yeah, and then another guy that the Panthers could have had that hasn't thrown an interception yet. Yeah, Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnoe being ex Panthers and that picture being like, yeah, this is what happened. So I do feel bad for Bryce. I do think they're live in this game because of Andy. Yeah. So all of his teammates have to be feeling like a little bit better that they have a quarterback that can go out there and maybe complete a pass. Like Adam Thielen has to be, every play he has to be like running a little bit harder. the offensive line has to be playing like a tiny bit harder because they think
Starting point is 01:12:08 that they have a chance. Those guys know they know in the locker room who gives them the best chance to win and it's Andy Dalton Andy Dalton did play last year for the Panthers remember he had a dinosaur though but he had that game against the Seahawks where he threw for like 300 plus yards. He's still got the red rifle arm he's still good. So are you going to do it? I think I'm going to bet them plus five. I don't money line is okay. Seems crazy. Here. Here's something that might help. The Raiders have not on Stinks. The Raiders have not been able to run the ball. So the Raiders are averaging two and
Starting point is 01:12:39 a half yards per carry for 39 rushes. The Panthers, your strategy of running back to score against the Panthers has worked well this year. Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to do it this week. Well, I don't know if the Raiders can run the ball. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Alexander Madison, he's got two touchdowns, but he hasn't been good at all really. He hasn't been productive at all is a better way to put it. He scored, the Raiders fed mixed bag, but I don't love the idea of the the Panthers defense getting carved up. We also have Gardner Minshew might have found his
Starting point is 01:13:09 swag back I think he's leading the league in in completion percentage but do you remember the clip of Max Grosby going and talking to Gardner Minshew on the sideline during the Ravens game? So Max Grosby or sorry Gardner Minshew said what he was told by Max Crosby He said he grabbed me and just said hey, we got your back, dude. We need that Washington State Gardner We need that and Gardner said man, you're right, dude. Let me see if I can go whip that up real quick Love that. He whipped up the cougar. Let me whip that Gardner up real quick. I like that. It's fucking great That's the best quarter. Yeah, the bestarner is when he's showing up for games, wearing
Starting point is 01:13:47 like a bomber jacket and the aviators. He's just in fucking mode. Southern rock Gardner is the absolute best. I think I would take, I would take Gardner Minshew if he said I'm going to whip that up. Anything, anything that he whips up. I'm buying. If he, if he's whipping, I'm getting whipped. Yeah. Let's do it Brock Bowers has looked awesome. Awesome He's looked on they have exact opposite hair Brock Bowers and Gardner Mentsch. Yeah, there's definitely some jealousy going on Oh for sure I think Brock Bowers has the most receiving yards in the first two games in NFL history for any rookie cool for a tight end He surpassed Mike Dicke. Oh, how about that? How about that?
Starting point is 01:14:23 Gronk said that Brock Powers is next up. He anointed him. Baby Gronk. Gronk, it's gotta be so awesome to be Gronk just being like, yeah, I was the best ever because he said like he could be on my tier. I like that. But the thing is like if Gronk tried to do,
Starting point is 01:14:40 if he played in Vegas, I don't think that would have worked out. No, that would not have. Early Gronk, no chance. Yeah, I don't know. I'm going to, it's going to be a game time decision whether I take the Panthers. Probably stupid. We also have a little a little reunion between Andy Dalton and Marvin Lewis. Ooh. Get the gang back together. Maybe some tears.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Marv. My visualization is giant post game hug between Andy Dalton and Marvin Lewis after this game. I don't know who's gonna win who's gonna be happier in that hug but they're gonna hug the shit out of each other seems like two guys that don't they can't have bad blood yeah they're just two nice guys you can't hate like the stuff that they accomplished for the Bengals was remarkable given the history of the Bengals yeah no playoff wins but still no playoff wins but they went to the playoffs a lot always on Saturday at at noon against the Texans yep okay next up dolphins and Seahawks so it's Skyler Thompson time
Starting point is 01:15:31 I was trying to talk by the way I think the Seahawks are very good like Gino is very good I think the Seahawks are very good if Kenneth Walker can get healthy I think that's a complete team the Dolphins Skyler Thompson is going to start. They are saying every they're saying all the right things that Mike McDaniel said Skyler Thompson, a new man. He said, when you're watching in 2024, it might be the same name on the jersey, but you're seeing a different man. I was trying to get myself to be like, maybe I'll bet on the Dolphins. And then I kept on hitting a wall and I was trying to figure out what's that wall and I found it. Skyler Thompson wearing number 19 is terrible. That's a bad
Starting point is 01:16:12 quarterback name. It's Johnny United and nothing else. Yeah, you can't, yeah, number 19, it's a good backup quarterback number if he never gets on the field. But the second he steps on the field, it's a just warning sign that this is a very backup quarter It's it's not only a bad. So I think they should never have a quarterback Number 19 since Johnny United's like don't don't do it. That was Johnny United's his number I was looking up who else wore number 19 Joe Montana did but with the Chiefs Okay, that's kind of indicative of it. Also fun fact There are three numbers,
Starting point is 01:16:45 sorry, four numbers, including 19, that a starting quarterback has never won a Super Bowl with. Number one. Mm-hmm. Number two, Cam Newton and Matt Ryan came close. And number six. So one, two, six, 19. Cutler, who else was six?
Starting point is 01:17:03 I don't know. Probably some other non-Super Bowl winning quarterbacks. Yeah, Mark Sanchez. Yeah, he might have been number 6. 19 is not. And then so I went even deeper and I tried to find top 10 players number 19. And this just further proves that you should not wear number 19 because Johnny Unites was obviously number 1.
Starting point is 01:17:20 They had Joe Montana 8 because it was Chiefs Joe Montana. Do you want to know who number 5 was? This is why number 19 does not work. This is the fifth best according to just a random website, which obviously doesn't really matter, the fifth best player to wear number 19. There's no chance I can guess this. Juju Smith Schuster. Okay. According to this list.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Yeah, I mean, it's a bad number. It's a bad... I saw it. I was like, what the fuck? He had one good year. Yeah I mean it also the list doesn't really make sense cuz like a Mari Cooper's number nine Ted Ginn Jr Who's better than Juju was number seven Adam Thielen also better than Juju six, but I just laughed at seeing that Yeah, that's like what the fuck that's wildly disrespectful of Ted Ginn. Yeah. Yeah, it was Johnny United's Lance All worth Keishon Bernie Kosar Juju. Yeah, it, it was Johnny United's Lance Alworth, Keyshawn, Bernie Kosar, Juju. Yeah it's not good. Number nine, ideally if you had to just draw it up and say my starting quarterback on my
Starting point is 01:18:10 franchise will wear this number, what number would that be? What's the best quarterback number visually? Okay, I think it's- Twelve. Twelve is pretty good. Okay, I think it's three numbers. I think it's seven, twelve, eighteen. I kind of like seventeen too.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Okay. Seventeen looks pretty good. numbers I think it's 712 18 I kind of like 17 to Okay, 17 looks pretty good. I think 712 18 and then my home is gonna make 15 mom's pretty you know Yeah, yeah, those are those are the not when you think quarterback numbers. I'm like 712 18 12 17 and Five I like five a lot five five's a good number. Yeah, that's a decent number And five. I like five a lot. Five. Five's a good number. Yeah, five's a decent number. But yeah, that's that was my whole Skyler Thompson.
Starting point is 01:18:48 He's wearing number 19. I don't. 19 is oh, is your fourth wide receiver and awesome punt return. 19 is the guy that showed up late on the day they handed out the jerseys. Right. And he's wearing one that doesn't even fit him. It's just not a good. Can I give you a counter stat to that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:04 So this might be a reason to bet on the Dolphins. Okay. They're 8-0 with Kevin Harlan announcing their games since 2022. Oh wow. And this is going to be a Harlan game. Okay. So go perfect 9-0. 9-0. They have the opportunity to go perfect on this. Harlan game. Yeah. I like that. Didn't Frank the Tank say that they never win when Kevin Harlan calls their games That's a statistical fact. Yeah, so but the counter statistic would be that they're perfect in the last two years with him on the call Yeah So I don't know which one's right if Frank's right or the numbers are I'm gonna say the numbers are probably right I think Frank might be right. Yeah
Starting point is 01:19:40 Okay, let's go with lions at Cardinals. So Yeah. Okay. Let's go with Lions and Cardinals. So big news out of Detroit. Dan Campbell had to sell his house because Lions fans found the address. That sucks. I would assume that would happen more frequently, right? Like word gets out. He said he loves the neighborhood, everything. There's plenty of space. It's on two acres. The home is beautiful. It's just that people figured out where we lived when we lost So what were they doing? I don't know. I mean you got to be a little dramatic You're psycho if you go after Dan Campbell, come on. I hope it wasn't just after this like I feel like people know where people live. Yeah, but it's not that crazy, but he sold his house. So, uh
Starting point is 01:20:22 He's got to be thinking about that. He's got to move. And I mean, moving sucks. Yeah, it does stink. Maybe he's just, maybe that's a little smokescreen. Might be. Yeah, if you just say that you're moving, and then people assume that you're out, put up a sign, put up the soul on it, hire like a U-Haul just to park in the driveway for a couple days. I think that loss to the Bucs was the best thing that could happen to the Lions.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Because Jerigoff threw the ball 55 times, which is not what you want to do as the Lions when you have Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery. And if you want to beat the Cardinals, the Bills kind of showed how to do it. Just run the ball, run the ball, run the ball, play action, Josh making plays. The game against the Rams was over in the first quarter because of Kyler Murray. I think the Lions are going to get back to basics. I think they're going to pound the rock. They're going to get play action going. Amon Ra has a leg injury, but I think he's going to play. I think this was a good loss for the Lions that they got away from themselves
Starting point is 01:21:16 a little bit. They tried to play a little bit too much into, oh, the Bucs secondary is banged up. Let's throw it all over them. And one and you know, you read the quotes Dan Campbell saying we got to Get Sam LaPorta more involved. I think this is a good spot for the Lions Yeah, so right now they have a split in the red zone on 31 red zone plays. They've passed the ball 18 times They've run it 13 times. So that's the second most pass attempts are by percentage in the NFL last year The Lions ran the ball 58% of the time in the red zone and threw it 40% 42%. So it's like exactly flip flop. Yeah. Where it was last year and red Arizona's red zone defense stinks. Right. So it does feel like it's a get right game for the Lions on that.
Starting point is 01:21:56 And they like sometimes you have these losses where you wake up and be like, what just happened? Why did we do what we did? Where the Detroit Lions we have a formula it works just go back to it Yeah, also it's gonna be on the road so Dan Campbell doesn't have to worry about people coming to his house Yeah, he's gonna be gone. It's fun that this game is like think about this game five years ago. What a stunk Yeah, and it's fun. It is a fun game if I were Dan Campbell I would I would just buy a farm just go live on a farm. Yeah, that's what you want to do anyway facility Yeah, yeah, exactly. You should be living in your office. You should be living in your playbook right now, Dan.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Do you guys, do you guys have any other thoughts on this game? I, I, this is my fun watch game of the week. It's nice. Uh, the, it's going to be a good uniform matchup. Sneaky good uniform. The uniforms and the colors, they scream points to me. Yep. Yep. Agreed. Late afternoon, Kyler Murray doing crazy shit. Marvin Harrison. He's arrived. Yeah. Fully arrived. It'd be funny if they didn't pass him the ball in non-divisional matchups. Yeah. And just only against the NFC West. We're like, we're going to unleash Marv. Just eat him. Eat him then. Okay. Ravens at Cowboys. Another fun game. The afternoon slate's great.
Starting point is 01:23:06 is another fun game. The afternoon slate's great. So we've talked about kickers. We've talked about Justin Tucker. We sometimes accidentally do this on this show where we start a narrative and then weirdly we're right and the numbers completely back it up. So NFL kickers through the first two weeks are 35 of 37 on 50 plus yard field goals. The only two misses Justin Tucker. Yeah, he's got to. So we nailed it. And we nailed it when we said that Justin Tucker's washed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Well, everyone else is kicking these insanely long field goals and doing it easily in Justin Tucker camp. Yeah. So it's a must win. I'm declaring it's a must win for the Ravens. I think so. If they lose, I think only one team since the year 2000 since the expansion has made the playoffs after starting on three and they're, they're out gaining their opponents. They are playing good football minus the penalties.
Starting point is 01:23:56 It's just, they got to win this game. I, I, I like the Ravens just because of purely sense of urgency. Yeah. And they've, they've lost two close games in the fourth quarter in two very different ways. The one against the chiefss obviously week one was lost by like a toenail and then the one against the Raiders was lost by just giving up an easy lead in the fourth quarter. Yeah. So they got to get it right. The Ravens have it's a must-win form. I like the Ravens this week. Yeah. Do you know here's a weird stat that would blow your mind if Mike McCarthy wins two more games this year, which I would assume he does He will have broken the record for most wins by a Cowboys coach in their first five years
Starting point is 01:24:39 So he would have beaten Jimmy Johnson, which is that's kind of funny. Yeah crazy Include postseason. I don't think it includes postseason. It's because Jimmy Johnson inherited a terrible team and they won one in 15 It's first year. Yeah, but Mike McCarthy he knows how to rack up wins Yeah And the regular season this does feel like a game that that you can start to believe in the Cowboys and if they win Yeah, this is a believe game. It's a believe game. It's a believe whoever wins this game. It's like, yep They're a good team. You should be able to add the Ravens as a pinky team if they go in three. Cause at that point you actually wouldn't think that they would win the Superbowl. Right? I'll consider it. Yeah, I'll consider it. I'll consider
Starting point is 01:25:12 it. You want people that want me to cut off my pink years. Quite unsettling. Uh, 49ers at Rams kitchen sink game. Ooh, I had this as a in the lab game. Yeah. Same thing for Kyle. Yep. Kyle. Oh, I had it for Sean. Oh, I had for it. So I think Kyle is gonna be in the lab. Oh, I think Sean's throwing the kitchen sink. So it's a kitchen sink first lab game. Wow. What's the more important room? I think Sean McVeigh is going to do some fuck shit. I think Sean McVeigh is going to do similar to what Matt LaFleur did last week being like, we don't have anyone. Here's some crazy shit you've never seen before. I think Sean McVeigh is gonna do similar to what Matt LaFleur did last week being like we don't have anyone Here's some crazy shit. You've never seen before
Starting point is 01:25:48 I think it's a it's a in the lab game for Kyle because one he loves going in the lab against Sean Yeah, and he loves beating them to their without Debo and Christian McCaffrey. Sean loves beating Kyle Sean loves beating Kyle. I'm pretty sure Sean beats Kyle except for the NFC Championship game or no They beat him in the NFC Championship game. What's the Rams. I'm pretty sure Sean beats Kyle except for the NFC Championship game or no they beat him in the NFC Championship game. What's the Rams? I'm pretty sure Sean beats Kyle. This is an annual tradition on part of my take where we mix up who owns who in the NFC West. Sean McVeigh versus Kyle Shanahan. What is the record? Okay, they have upper hand. Yeah. All right. So it's 1010 and five for who? It's mitt for shanty. It's a shkylon shanty. Sean Sean Sean owns Kyle in the playoffs Okay, he won the NFC. He won that that NFC championship game. Yeah, but I know that Kyle loves beating the shit out of Sean McVeigh
Starting point is 01:26:36 He's very good at it. Yeah, and he's without Debo. He's without Christian McCaffrey. Yep, and so is back. Who's back? Yeah. So what I think he's going to do, this might be a juice check game. Cause he likes, if he can't have Debo running the weird gadget shit, doing strange stuff out of the slot, he likes doing that with his fullback too. I, I could see that happening. I just, the reason why I liked the Rams in this game is in it's gross. The way that game went on Sunday, they just, that game was over. It almost basically afterwards, Sean Payton or Sean McVay said there's no positives to take away from this game. Yeah. Like it just burned the tapes. He, even his
Starting point is 01:27:14 wife was doing an Instagram story that said tough times don't last. Tough people do. She's a razor Ramon fan. Uh, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I think it's just, she'd be tighter than we think because it feels like the Rams might be dead But they got one more shot. Hey, let's throw everything at it kitchen sink Aren't they getting one of their guys back there with they're getting some offensive line the guys back from his suspension, right? Yeah, and then put Cooper Cup and puka are both out. Yeah, so the the line might get one better guy back I don't know. I I guess this is gonna be a determination like what's better a kitchen or the lab? Yeah. And I think house I think he's got his mad scientist coat on this week. I love that he's got the biofocals graduated cylinders, beakers, love that once and burners.
Starting point is 01:27:53 All right. So last game chiefs at Falcons, we did we should have said Raheem Morris all time coach having his players back after Drake London got this flag for doing the gun signal. He said Drake is a great kid. His intent was not as a use of weapon. He probably was shooting t-shirts into the stands to be honest with you because he's just that kind of guy. I love that. That's it. That's a great spin zone. I went back. I watched the all 22 on the celebration. He was tapping the side of the gun. He was showing tremendous trigger discipline. He was probably showing the safeties on. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. His fingers were on the side of the gun. He was showing tremendous trigger discipline. He was probably showing the safety zone. Yeah, yeah, exactly. His fingers were on the side
Starting point is 01:28:27 of the gun and he was tapping it. It was not on the trigger. So I guess in the woke NFL you can't even shoot a gun in the crowd anymore. It's crazy. It's wild. It's crazy. I kind of like the Falcons. Did you also know that the Falcons are giving away free hot dogs, free chips, free refillable drinks on Sunday night. I did not know that. It is for the induction of Arthur Blank into the Ring of Honor, which. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Don't really understand that, because if you're the owner, why wouldn't you just put yourself in it right away? That's the best part about being an owner, is you can have a knight commemorating yourself. Yeah, they have the souvenir cups. I think Arthur blanked us. The souvenir cups just have a big picture of his face on it. I got to get one of those and you get the free hot dog, free chips, free refillable drinks. I, every team should do their owners night. Yeah. And then you should sell the cups and I would collect all 32 owners cups.
Starting point is 01:29:22 A celebration of Arthur. I don't think they can't lose on Arthur Blanknight. No, he's gonna be on the sidelines the entire game. The fans come to see Art. Yeah, so are they gonna retire his number? I guess so, or his suit? Just hang it, yeah, they should hang a giant red suit. His face? The velvet.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Yeah, his mustache? Hang a giant Home Depot banner at midfield. I just think the Chiefs are, even though they're 2-0, they haven't looked incredible. They've survived two tough games. No Pacheco. No Pacheco. Carson Steel is going to, and they also signed Kareem Hunt. I just, yeah, I think the Falcons, that was one of those galvanizing wins.
Starting point is 01:30:00 They might have gotten their groove back. They kind of feel good about themselves. Although I do want to see a Carson Steel game. Yeah. I want it for Crockie, the alligator. Yeah. They said, I saw a beat reporter said that someone on the Falcons said this was one of the biggest wins they've had, or if not the biggest win in the last five years, which I think it was. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Easily the best one they've had in the last five years. So this is a turning point. I think the Falcons are live. Yeah. Now they're not alive. I think going up against Andy Reid and spags is going to be a little bit different than going up against a team with no coach. I do worry about
Starting point is 01:30:33 the matchup Chris Jones versus Kirk Cousins Achilles. Yeah, that one scares me a little. But we'll see. Just go no huddle the entire time. Yeah, two minutes. Real the whole rip it. Just rip it the entire time. Okay, so a couple things we've got to do. We've got to do our picks, but we also have to do our touchdown parlay. So Max, you're out. I'm in. PFT, Hank, and I are going to do it so everyone can go bet on it on the DraftKings touchdown parlay profit boost.
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Starting point is 01:31:34 Let's get a winner. Hank, give us someone. I'm going to go with Nico Collins. Ooh, okay. CJ Stroud's favorite, favorite target. Okay, nice, Mrs. Tepper. He's a little banged up, but it'll be okay. I Got it. Why I got it cuz I have him in my fancy leagues and he had the red thing next to him Then I wonder the odds on him. I haven't changed anything. I just saw the red thing next to him
Starting point is 01:31:57 You know what I'm talking about plus 110 Okay, I'm gonna go with uh Revenge game for himself for dropping that pass a quam Barclay okay he's gonna score he's got to after that after what happened and and being down the goal line right mm-hmm he's got a score he's gonna they're gonna make sure he scores because I want to take Khalil Herbert okay talk me out of it I like it, I can't it's a little juicy I can't plus 255. I can't I can't Colts defense not good at all
Starting point is 01:32:30 You're a once to talk on the hater, but you you everything I say so Well, I'm going away from my sister. That's fair. That's fair by you. I even think for some dumb reason I think that having Andy Dalton as your quarterback in Carolina is gonna make the defense play harder Yeah, so I'm not gonna pick against the Panthers in this. I'm going to take Khalil Herbert. Who do you have? Nico? Do you want it to pick? All right. Should we pick one afternoon one so it's spaced out so it's too early one afternoon? I can change mine from Saquon. I can change mine. No, no. I kind of like these. Let's just go with it. All right. You want to? Yeah. It's good to say, like, Dave Montgomery or Jameer Gibbs. But yeah, OK.
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Starting point is 01:33:43 For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co.ftball Is memes here? Memes! Memes here. Memes. Memes, the Jets-Patriots game, everyone already heard us react to it, but you can predict it right now. I'm gonna say 30 to 3.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Oh! Who wins? Jets. Okay. Okay. Alright so let's do our picks. We have decided on a punishment. And we've, yeah we, well I guess you haven't, you weren't there when Max Piazzi and I talked but I think you'll be fine with it. Last place in the picks league this year is going to have to go to a bachelor party and wedding.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Same one. Just become new friends. Same couple. What do you think about that Hank? Sure. AWLs and then the- I think you should have to blog it too. Who's picking?
Starting point is 01:34:39 Yeah, blog it. What do you mean? Vlog it. Vlog it. Everyone's going to get, whoever goes- Vlog it. Have to bring a little little you might have to bring a cameraman Yeah, yeah might have to that's why so I mean me and memes are just fucked regardless No, you don't have to go. We don't have to have you
Starting point is 01:34:55 You don't like it Hank No, that's that's good good punishment, and then second place will have to go to a retirement party Yeah, yeah or divorce party I Kind of like divorce party they can choose retirement or divorce. I'd like to go to a retirement party I think that'd be fun. There's was not gonna do a funeral divorce parties get wild if a funeral pops up We're not gonna go with it now to tie in with a Super Bowl though, what if second place did the shadow mincy round for three days in New Orleans?
Starting point is 01:35:30 I think the last place should have to do that if anything, but we could maybe add that. Hank, you don't, I feel, I'm feeling like you don't love it. Wait, let's, let's talk it out. Let's be open. What are we thinking? Let's talk it out. I'm fine with whatever you guys want to do, but let's talk it out. I'm fine with whatever you guys want to do, but let's talk it out. I don't want to be a corporate overlord. No bad ideas. Let's just talk it out. How do we sell this?
Starting point is 01:35:53 You sell the blog and you sell the blogs. Why can't we sell the bachelor party to Coors light or something like that? I have, I, you were the one who was like why does everything have to be a stream when I said that? No well like the what we did the Chevy like drive across the country. That wasn't a stream. The stand-up was a pay-per-view. You don't think someone would you don't think someone would be down to sponsor this like we could get the bachelor party paid for and it's like it's brought to you by this we get all the shirts everyone wearing it. we talk well, let's not sit up put that out there, okay? But it's a possibility don't know if that's there could be elements of possibility disclaimer
Starting point is 01:36:32 That's not a hundred percent true that your bachelor party will be paid correct. Yes, correct But we could potentially figure out a way to have a situation where it's like we almost plan your bachelor party for you But we but again not pay for but we don't know this. Right. Yeah. Don't know any of this. Maybe one night. This is, this is all speculative. Your wedding is paid for by part of my cheesesteak. Yeah. I think what Hank's upset about is the fact that the, uh, the standup is way worse of a punishment than going to a wedding and a bachelor party. That's what he's upset The past is the past we gotta get over the best the past is the past
Starting point is 01:37:08 We also Hank and I discussed someone's got to do do a pinball punishment. Oh, I Mean the bachelor party and wedding sucks really bad for me and PFT probably Sucks that's really bad for me could be okay really really bad. I do think it'd be funny content especially we find a AWL How many days would you go for to you have to go for at least two two nights to right leave Friday come back Sunday? Yeah, yeah have to go for at least two nights because show Hank think about this you might you probably get to golf I'm down. I'm down probably get to golf I'm down and if the person wants one of us to be in their wedding that also we're down Yeah, we get a suit sponsor imagine being you know, I'm max is definitely
Starting point is 01:37:55 Also, we're cool with the one in the way the one weekend max doesn't have a wedding He's gonna have to do it as a punishment. I mean I am in last right now. Yeah, it'd be so funny You're just gonna basically make a whole new group of friends and there are listeners So this gets the listeners involved too. All right. So what's this? What's the record so far? I think everyone's in three and one. Oh, there you go. I think three and one and the pick I'd be cat Yeah, I'm doing two max one two one. Okay Ty's gonna stick around for a while. Yeah, I'm gonna make a difference All right, who's up for it was a fucking bone X last like last minute nothing touchdown. Who's up first?
Starting point is 01:38:33 PFT Okay, I'm going to go With The Dolphins Seahawks, I'm gonna take the under who on that game. Oh Okay The Dolphins Seahawks, I'm gonna take the under who on that game. Oh Okay I'm going to go with the Bears. Don't laugh Hank the Bears Colts over 43 and a half Don't laugh. Okay. Oh, thank you. I'm going to see how Xander is right now 41 and a half
Starting point is 01:39:02 Okay, I'm going to take the commanders bangles under 47 Yeah Okay, I'm gonna take Saints minus two and a half. It's two good pick the Eagles Good pick names the Eagles I am going to start with Rams Niners under 44 and a half. And I'm gonna get stinky. Yeah, get stinky. Panthers plus five.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Yeah, love it, I love it. I'm gonna take the Lions, Cardinals over 51 and a half. Okay. I'm gonna take the Lions Cardinals over 51 and a half Okay, I Will take I was gonna take the Panthers I will go with the I Guess 49ers minus seven. Hey, that's not you. I know that's not you Hank. Don't do that That's not you. So stinky. Yeah, that's not you Hank. Take the Broncos. Do you want to get real stinky? Yeah, stinky. Yeah, let's get Broncos. It's so stinky. My pick has been
Starting point is 01:40:11 Oh, your pick is in. Officially. Yeah. All right. Take the Giants. That's also stinky. I'll take the Falcons plus three and a half. You gotta just go against Malik Willis again. You gotta get your you gotta get get your revenge it's a personal revenge game for you I'm gonna double my bet from last week. I'm gonna go with the Titans. Yes This time last week. I didn't believe you this week. This might be the last time I get to bet against Malik Willis There you go. Let's go. You have to take advantage of these moments. Yes
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Starting point is 01:41:30 He's plus 8,000 to win the Heisman. Got a lot of aiders on his side. You mean Patty Mahomes? I think he's gonna come out and show people that he's better than Patty Mahomes. And Patty Mahomes is copying him, he's not copying Patty. Overall number 15 first. he's not copying Patty. Who wore number 15 first? He's got swagger. I think Dustin Pedroia did actually mate.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Oh, that's right. Learn more. I peed in his pool once. Learn footy. My sitem is the office Australia. Oh, Australia. Oi. America tried to copy our show first and it sucked.
Starting point is 01:42:03 Oh. And this show's gonna suck even do they think they're doing? This show's gonna suck even more! They're taking a piss out of it! They can't even fucking hold a jockstrap to our office, mate. Ricky Gervais. Classic-classic comedian. Who's playing-
Starting point is 01:42:16 Who's playing Ricky Gervais? He's from Pittsburgh. Ricky Gervais? Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. Our accents are slipping! Right, here's the thing is the thing pepping is the thing are you done? Are you done?
Starting point is 01:42:32 All right, get on with it Orials Baltimore Orioles Orioles in my sleeper to win the World Series Have you watched the Baltimore Orioles recently? Yeah, I did. You definitely haven't, because they fucking stink. I watch cricket, but I think the Orioles... I'm just thinking who's gonna beat the Phils. Yeah, you- I don't want to be the freaking Junkies. The Baltimore Orioles might not even make the playoffs, eh?
Starting point is 01:42:55 Is that possible? It is possible. They've been playing the terrible, terrible baseball. They shite. They uh-uh shite. They are uh-uh shite recently. Well, that's why they're sleepers. Everyone's sleeping on them. Craig Kimbrough also sleeping. He sucks.
Starting point is 01:43:07 Yeah, they're two- They just- they just waved the closer. They're two and eight. They waved them. They waved them. He's one of the best closers in MLB history. He's the one who sets up like a bird, isn't he? The Baltimore Orioles are four games up in the wild card, but they've been two and eight in the last ten.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Well that's what I'm saying, mates. The people are sleeping on them. Okay, I'm gonna do a Australian version of The Wire for Baltimore. I've always got to sound like you can lift your sleeves. Sheet. Sheet. Sheet. Sheet. Omar coming.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Okay. Oi. Oi. Oi. I'm Nigel Nigel. Nigel. Nigel. I'm uh, this week I'm starting having p'm Nigel Nigel. Nigel. Nigel. I'm uh, this week I'm starting having pints with the lads.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Nigel. Have a couple pints with the lads, go out grab a couple pints, right? A new beginning. I've been watching that show, Industry. Not sure what it's about. They're always having pints and fucking each other. I love that. It's true, Industry.
Starting point is 01:44:01 I watched the season of that and then I gave up. There's a lot of cocks in that. A lot of cocks. Cocks left and right. It's like, oh that guy's got a cock. A lot of sex. That guy's got quarter cock. A cocaine. Crikey. Yeah. So I'm sorry, I forget what I was starting. I don't know. I was starting points. I was points with the boys. Let's all go out and have some points with the boys. It's gonna be a great time, innit? This week my sleep, my sitting team. I'm with sir Russell Wilson I think he's shite. Yeah, I think he's probably done in the NFL because Justin Fields just seen I was gonna have a hell of a weekend. He's gonna have a great game his first great game
Starting point is 01:44:35 I like and then we're not gonna see any more of that Russell Wilson all over my TV anymore I'm not very very happy about that indeed My sleep is your pages don't get rid of your pages Yeah, bad week to have all up might blow up on you blow up my right put a hole in your hip. Oh Oi, oh Hello. Hello chaps. My name is Oliver butterscotch Hello, Obey my stardom is mood dang the hippo move dang. What are you doing here? I fucking love that fucking baby hippo.
Starting point is 01:45:06 I just wanna boop it and fucking love it and squeeze it all day. Oh, hippo's very dangerous. Not this one. Moodang's a pygmy, hippo. He's a little baby. I think you fucking eat your baby if you could. She's a little baby
Starting point is 01:45:18 and all she does is run around and do crazy, be boop, Moodang shit. If you tried to boop it, it would eat you. We should have her on the podcast at one point, aye? Go buy a Moodang shirt, it's in store.barstilessports.com right now, Moodang supremacy. Uh, great hippo, my sinem is the Colts defense, Caleb Williams gonna have three touchdowns. Oi! Three of them, free!
Starting point is 01:45:40 Have you lost your mind? Three touchdowns, I said it. For the Colts defense? Free! That's very mean. Free free have you lost your mind free touchdowns? I said it for the Cubs defense freeze That's very I don't like what you I don't like what you said there Pippen. I'll just try to clarify It's very mean indeed my sleepers nannies. Did you see the viral nanny? She's hot with our own nanny There was a viral nanny. She's real hot. What are you talking about? I'm being viral nanny. She's hottest hot hot and What are you talking about? Colombian viral nanny.
Starting point is 01:46:02 She's hot as ho ho. And in all due respect, she's viral. My mate, Hugh Grant, absolutely loved his nanny. Look at this daddy. So there's there was a there was like a prompt being like, like someone was like, oh, my kid learned Spanish because she was with my nanny so much. And then this tick tock went viral of this Colombian nanny. And everyone's like
Starting point is 01:46:31 Like this most trusting wife ever. Yeah, I guess she's attractive. That's uh, that's very good. She's gone very viral Yeah Shout out that nanny. Okay, I would learn Leche immediately Let's go to our great interview Spice Adams in studio Pft. you got a quick ad before we do that. Yes before we get to Spice Adams he's brought to you by our great friends over at Coors Light. Rivalries are heating up in college football. Big big rivalry weekend this weekend. UNC JMU huge rivalry game. These two teams don't like each other very much. If you're watching college football and you need to chill out for a little bit have a Coors Light. Coors Light, the mountains are blue.
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Starting point is 01:48:39 about to say. We don't. Well, I was going to say we got, we got to at least just briefly touch on panic meter for the bears. The panic meter and people are freaking out. Yeah, too. It's alright. So let's do it this let's not do a Caleb Conversation, let me do a bigger conversation playing in the NFL Your team starts the season at what point is there a oh shit This might not be going the way we think it is, because I can't be week two. Week two is way too early, right? Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:49:08 I mean, and you talking to a guy that's, I went two and 14. Right. I've been on teams that went two and 14, four and 12, seven and nine, so you talking to a guy that's basically been through it all, but week two, nah, man. And we got a win under our belt already?
Starting point is 01:49:23 Yeah. I think they're good man. Defense plan outstanding, special teams is really good. We just got to get the offense on the same page at some point. So what's the week that you would say like you can feel like this is what the team is? We know what we are, we maybe have an identity.
Starting point is 01:49:39 Cause that's also the part is like, I feel like the first two weeks, teams are trying to just figure out what their identity is. What is the thing they wanna lean on and do well? I think by the second quarter you should know. Like this is the first quarter. Oh, this is old lovey right here. Yeah, hey, bro, that was always the formula, bro.
Starting point is 01:49:57 That's all we know. And I think by the second quarter, man, you should know the type of team you got. You should know if you're a running team, if you're a play-action team or if you're on defense and you you're a defense that stopped to run your Defense that get a lot of takeaways like you should know that by the second. So that's weeks five three five three Yeah In other words the week the season used to be broken down was a 16 game season Yeah
Starting point is 01:50:22 The first four games that was the first quarter of the season. And then halfway through the second quarter, you gotta know who you are. Now if you're on one of those teams where you have a great defense and a not so great offense. It's frustrating, bro.
Starting point is 01:50:35 It's frustrating to watch too. Because they always bring up the stat. It's always 21 points, I think. It's like, if we just average 21 points, here's how many wins we would have had. Imagine a team going on a 15 play drive and you stop them and you get a takeaway and you going off to the sideline,
Starting point is 01:50:52 and everybody's shaking their hands like, hey man, good job, da da da, and quarterback or somebody, whoever, go out there, throw an interception or fumble the ball, now the defense right back out, like dude, we were just out there for 15 plays, man, and we stopped a high-powered offense. Now we gotta get 25 seconds of rest,
Starting point is 01:51:10 and now we back out there? Like, that junk is frustrating, man. The craziest thing that I think that maybe, we've been lucky enough to be around a lot of NFL players, and you learn it over time, but fans are sitting on the couch, they don't fully realize, all we can base off is like youth sports and like, Oh yeah, your best friends. You play with them, right? In an NFL locker room, I feel like it is a
Starting point is 01:51:33 very clear divide, offense and defense. And you don't really, cause you're not in meetings with them. You're not really, you might have a friend or two on the other side, but like for the most part you're sticking with your unit and your guys. And that's where some of the friction can happen if one side isn't pulling. Is that a fair assessment? I don't know, man, cause I'm coming from a locker room
Starting point is 01:51:57 where we were all together. Yeah. Like I understand what you're saying. Like when we break up the defensive line going to defensive line room, linebackers going in their room, tight ends going in their room. But when we all get together in that locker room,
Starting point is 01:52:11 dude, we were playing dodgeball, we were playing basketball. We made up all kinds of games in the locker room. So it never really felt like we were all individualized. You know what I mean? We were playing with the old linemen and stuff like that. And we battle all the time. So the fact that we were all like individualized. You know what I mean? Like we were playing with the old linemen and stuff like that. And we battle all the time.
Starting point is 01:52:27 So the fact that we were friends and we would go out to dinner and things like that, like I think the Bears were just different. Like our whole atmosphere in that locker room was crazy, man. It was a great thing to be a part of, bro. I can't even front. But you're also different
Starting point is 01:52:42 because you're friends with everyone. Yeah, man. You're one of those guys that I feel like I'm an only child Really, you know I'm saying like I'm kicking with everybody and I always been like that. Yeah Yeah, that the the Niners team you also had Larry Allen on the offense Oh, right. So you didn't want to say anything bad because Larry Allen just whooped your ass. That's that That's the legal ass killer right there. He's a psycho, right? God rest his soul, man. Dude, like, I've never got into my stance and was just like, whatever I'm thinking
Starting point is 01:53:13 is just not gonna work. Like, just being deflated as soon as you get in your stance. I've never done that as many times as it was lining up against him in practice. And every time somebody wanted to go up against him they'd be like, ah man, take this rep for me, man, my leg, I'm never gonna go stretch my leg real quick. And I'll never forget this, this is why my back
Starting point is 01:53:34 feel like how it do right now. It would slip out of place, my back would slip out of place every time I went up against Larry Allen. And we would do the Oklahoma drill. Frank Gore would be the running back and then it'll be Larry and then I'm on the other side of Larry But we're in a 3-4. So I'm in a true zero So I'm not like on an edge or anything like I'm head up and I got a backup off the ball because I have to mirror Wherever they go, so I'm in a true 3-4
Starting point is 01:54:03 So if he steps to his left, I gotta step to my right. If he steps to his right, I gotta step to my left. So I'm just head up with Larry every practice and every time I'm just like, low man wins. This is what I'm telling myself in my head. And I'm just like, it doesn't matter with Larry, dude. Cause he is like a tank, bro. If he wants to pancake you, he's gonna pancake you.
Starting point is 01:54:26 If he wants to take you somewhere, he's just gonna take you somewhere. So I would just, I would get in my stance and I would just, like here, and then Frank could choose this gap or he could choose this gap. Either one of these eight gaps. And I'm not gonna reach out to try to tackle him.
Starting point is 01:54:42 I'm just here. So Frank would just, it was just a basically jog drill for Frank, because I'm not, if you reach your hand out, that's just saying, dump me. That's saying Larry Allen, dump me and put all 400 pounds of yourself on like. Or Frank just takes your arm off. Yeah, well, Frank was gonna do that anyway,
Starting point is 01:55:01 because that's just how Frank runs. But Larry Allen, bro, was like, straight-hand called him, he's a legalized killer, man. Maybe the strongest player to ever play in the NFL, right? Dude, so I seen him in a weight room. He has five plates on, with chains hanging off of it. Like, big, thick chains, like you can hear. Ching, ching, ching, ching, ching.
Starting point is 01:55:21 That's how you know Larry was in it. He's in there by himself. He's, he got it on the bench, and he likes to walk on an incline. So he's walking on an incline. And so I come in there and he starts to get on a bench. I say, you need a spot? So the five plates that he has on there and the chains, he's just repping it as he's looking at me.
Starting point is 01:55:40 So I'm like, all right, man, good talk, man. See you tomorrow. So I just leave. That dude was just, just unbelievably strong. Yeah. Do you think, so talking about the Oklahoma drill, I don't think they even do it anymore, especially, you know, like training camps are different preseason, different. Do you, can you see it when you're watching the game? Like, oh yeah, this doesn't, especially early in the season, like this doesn't look like what it should look like because these guys
Starting point is 01:56:05 Just haven't been playing together. I don't know man. It's just it still looked like football to me, but you know We were the guinea pigs man. We I mean we fool pants to a day every day We're in full pass so much when you erase it off the grease board you can still see it You can still see the words fool Crazy the amount of practicing we did in past, bruh. And like now they got all the rules and the hours that you can and can't do it and all of that. So it's like now you wanna get smart.
Starting point is 01:56:40 Now you wanna protect our brains. We had to go through the wringer for years, man. Yeah. Two days, three days sometimes. It was like the more you suffer, the better you'll be. I don't, I don't always subscribe to that. Like the old school NFL coach mentality. And I mean, I'm just drawn back to my high school experience, but it seems like the coaches that you, you had that would be like the strictest,
Starting point is 01:57:04 the ones that wanted to just beat the shit out of you, those ended up not always being the best head coaches. I don't know, sometimes it's hit or miss. We had a legendary coach by the name of Coach James Reynolds at my high school, Martin Luther King in Detroit, Michigan. And we ran 45 and 46 counter where I was pulling every dog on play.
Starting point is 01:57:25 And we just like, bruh, how many times are we gonna run this way? And I would be pulling every play, bruh. And with the amount of running that we did at my high school, it got me prepared to go to Penn State. Because I was like, dang, practice is over with? Because that's all we did was run, man.
Starting point is 01:57:46 I was like, dog. But it paid off for me, man. Cause by the time I got to college, I was like, oh, all right, this straight. This ain't bad. How did your recruiting go? Did you get recruited by Michigan and Michigan State? I did.
Starting point is 01:57:59 And you decided not to? It was kind of late. After, well, what happened was there was an upperclassman that was getting recruited by Penn State. He said, man, why don't you come out. First of all, I've never played football before. Like I didn't play Little League and then I was too big. I've been this same size and height since I was 12.
Starting point is 01:58:18 So I was like 290 when I was 12. And you look good right now by the way. I appreciate it, man. Right now I'm at like middle school weight 270 265 that's sixth grade. That's insane. They wouldn't let you play football. Yeah, cuz you got to be like 150 Way over there sixth grade spice Adams right now. I'm like I'm 511 290 at 12. So I never played football.
Starting point is 01:58:47 So me, what happened, my mom drove me up to my high school. I had to, you had to take a test to get in the top three schools in Detroit, Cass, King, and Renaissance. And I went to King. And so upon my mom knowing that I passed this test to get into the school, she was like, all right, cool, now you about to play football.
Starting point is 01:59:07 And I'm like, man, I don't wanna play football. I'm from Bad Boys, Detroit, baby, I play basketball. We in the street, we hoopin'. Hey, here come a car, man. All right, it's back on, car gone. We hoopin'. So my mom take me up there and I play. Long story short, I love it.
Starting point is 01:59:25 Let's go again, da da da da. How quickly was it like, oh shit, he can play? I don't know. Because they told me to line up at guard and I was like, I promise, right hand the guy, I said, point guard or shooting guard? They was like, get this big dude out of here, man. Like seriously, dog.
Starting point is 01:59:44 So I had no idea what I was doing, but I was very coachable, so I didn't know. Apparently I was doing good, because they wanted to move me up to varsity. So I was like, dang, I must be doing what I'm supposed to do. Yeah. So the last, I think like the last three games
Starting point is 02:00:00 or something like that, they had moved me up, but I didn't get no burn. So my sophomore year, I'm like, dog, I'm starting. So I think the upperclassman, he saw this and he saw something in me. He was like, man, why don't you come to this Penn State camp with me? So I'm like, dang, like I've never played football before
Starting point is 02:00:16 and I got this upperclassman who's getting recruited by Penn State, he asked me to go to the camp with him. I'm like, Ma, can I go? It's $280 and she's like, oh my. So my mom is, she's looking in the couch. She's scraping up Arca and I didn't know this until my 40s. My mom was like, you know your uncle paid for that.
Starting point is 02:00:37 I had no idea like this whole time. One of my uncles ended up giving my mom the money but I ended up going to the camp, and when I went to that camp, they offered me at the camp. As a sophomore who had just started playing football. Yeah, I was like, all I knew. That's just natural talent. I'm from Detroit, bro, so it's people working at the big three.
Starting point is 02:00:56 I seen people with broke legs going to work. All I knew was work. So when we went to the camp, I'm sprinting to every drill. I'm standing after practice, like, hey, can we work some more stuff, whatever? Because all this stuff is new to me. I'm trying to get it down. So by the time I go back to Detroit,
Starting point is 02:01:13 I was like, people can be like, oh man, like whatever camp you went to, like I can tell, whatever. It's like I'm taking notes. Like I got like a little notebook. I'm writing stuff down. And before long they was like, hey, you wanna come to school here? They was like, you wanna meet Joe? And I was like, I didn writing stuff down. And before long, they was like, hey, you wanna come to school here?
Starting point is 02:01:26 They was like, you wanna meet Joe? And I was like, I didn't know who Joe Paterno was. I was like, all right, let's meet him, whoever this Joe is. Like, I got no idea, man. And ever since then, bro, it was just like, I love the game, bro. And I love playing nose guard.
Starting point is 02:01:43 I love everything game, bro. And I love playing nose guard. I love everything that everybody hates. I love pre-season, I love how hot it is, how miserable it is. That's what I'm learning about myself. I like to be miserable. Pushing yourself, yeah. I feel like if I don't go through something, then I'm not even doing anything.
Starting point is 02:02:00 So Michigan and Michigan State kind of wised up late? Yeah, so once they saw I was getting recruited by Penn State, then they started recruiting me. Then Nick Saban came up to the school and stuff like that. Oh wow, it was Nick Saban. Yeah, he came to watch you. Yeah. So was there any choice, or were you just like,
Starting point is 02:02:16 no, Penn State was the first one who saw me? Yeah, like once, and then I wanted to get away from the state of Michigan, you know what I mean? Like I didn't want to get homesick and I could just drive 45 minutes and be back at the crib. I was like, nah. So going out to Penn State, it was different, man. It was like mountains there.
Starting point is 02:02:34 It was like squirrels coming up to you. It's like Happy Valley. Like it was really Happy Valley. You know what I mean? Like I'm used to, if a squirrel see you in Detroit, he's outta there. Like squirrels coming up to you. Like, I'm you know what I mean? I'm used to, if a squirrel see you in Detroit, he's outta there, like squirrel's coming up to you. Like, I'm like, what is this?
Starting point is 02:02:47 I feel like I'm Snow White or something like that, bro. It was crazy. But it took me like two years to even speak to people. Because in Detroit, you can't just walk up on somebody and be like, what's up? And hey, what's up? What you mean, what's up? That's a fight.
Starting point is 02:03:03 So when people were talking to me at Penn State, I was just like, who's this dude? Like, it took me about two years to just say hi back to another person saying hello to me. Yeah. The personality that you were describing is a big asset to have. Like, no matter what you're doing,
Starting point is 02:03:18 if you're on a football team or just like your buddy, if somebody is happiest when everyone's miserable, that's a good person to have because it makes doing the hard stuff so much easier if there's somebody around that's enjoying it and helping you enjoy it more, right? Yeah, because that's why, if you take any three technique on any team
Starting point is 02:03:37 and tell him you're gonna move him to nose guard, they're gonna be like, oh, no! Like it's gonna be the worst thing in the world that they could ever hear. But that's where I relish. Let's go, like it's gonna be the worst thing in the world that they could ever hear. But that's where I relish, like let's go. Like the double teams, like it's the most thankless position in all of football, playing a true nose guard. Eating up space.
Starting point is 02:03:55 That's it, bro. It pretty much made Albert Hainsworth quit. He kinda retired after they did that to him. Yeah, nose is no joke, man. So what point at Penn State were you like, oh shit, I'm gonna get drafted? Because this is, I love these stories when someone comes to a sport late
Starting point is 02:04:09 and it just, it feels like it happens, I mean it did happen for you in a matter of years. It was crazy, man. Like I had no aspirations of going to the NFL. I was just like, that'll be a bonus. Like I just wanted to give my piece of paper, be All-American, win national championship and stuff like that.
Starting point is 02:04:27 And then like if the NFL happened then yes, like that's amazing. But once I saw this center from Purdue, I don't know his name, but the Steelers drafted him in the 2001 draft or two draft or something like that. And I had a monster game against him. Like, I mean, I was doing stuff that, you know,
Starting point is 02:04:49 you dream about like, I'm gonna do this move and throw this guy out the way. Like I was doing those moves on him. Cause it was a real emotional game for us because the game before we played Ohio State and one of my teammates was like, they said he'll never walk again Adam Talaferro So the next game after that was Purdue and so I had a monster game and I saw him get drafted
Starting point is 02:05:12 So I was like Chuckie. Okobius his name. Yes. Yeah, I just looked it up for you They drafted him and uh, I was like, I know they saw the Penn State game Right if they drive him third round, I'm like, dude I got to go second or first at least. Just off of the game that I had. And so I was like, man. And then my coach pulled me over to the side
Starting point is 02:05:33 because I was like, just sad or whatever, just how much work it take to be good and balance classes and stuff like that. So I was like feeling sorry for myself not going to class and being late to class and all this stuff. So Coach Larry Johnson pulled me over to the side and said, man, you messing with greatness. Like you could really be good, man.
Starting point is 02:05:55 Like you gotta start getting your stuff together. So I was like, he was like, you know, I had some teams calling me and I was like, what? There was some teams from like the national football league that called you about me? So I was like, that's all I needed to hear. And then I was like, what? It was some teams from the national football league that called you about me? So I was like, that's all I needed to hear. And then I was like, all right, cool. I just started sacrificing,
Starting point is 02:06:12 me going out to different parties and stuff like that and hanging out and I just wiped myself clean of everything, bro, and I just started focusing. I got drafted in the second round. And so then after you make it to the NFL, is there a point where, I don't know, what was your attitude like going into that first camp? Was it like, were you aggressive?
Starting point is 02:06:30 Were you excited? Was there a moment where you got out there on the practice field and you were like, okay, I can actually excel at this. I'm good enough to play in the NFL. Once I got drafted? Yeah. Well, I was there with Bryant Young,
Starting point is 02:06:42 who's the Hall of Famer. And so I was just like, I'm just gonna do everything he did. Everything that he do, I'm gonna try to do it. And it was so funny, because they set me up my first practice. So you leave out the door and you like, you right out on the field. So when that door opened, B-Wild just took off, like gone.
Starting point is 02:07:07 And I'm just like, oh. So I'm trying to keep up with him and we go through all these individual drills and I'm just like, I can't even catch my breath. And he's just like, let's go. Ah, and I was like, oh my gosh. Like, is this what it's like? And he didn't tell me till like,
Starting point is 02:07:23 I got to my second year or something like that, like, hey, we was just, he was just messing with you. Yeah, it took me a while, man, and, but I used to make like little splashes here and there. I'd get like a TFL or I'd sniff out a screen or Coach Jim Moore, who was the defensive coordinator at the time, he would pointed out plays that I would do where I would fall on the ground,
Starting point is 02:07:47 but I would get up and chase down a pass, and he was like, this is the type of effort we need, or whatever, so I was like, dang, all right, hey, I might get a shot here, you know what I'm saying? But we were just losing, man. I think that year we had T.O., Garrison Hirst, Jeff Garcia, we had Derrick Deese, we had Ron Stone,
Starting point is 02:08:09 we had Jeremy Newberry, we had some dogs and we still went seven and nine that year. So I knew how hard it was to win in the league, man. And we had Julian Peterson, we had some straight dogs on the defense, man, and just, we had 79, bro. Yeah. I feel like T.O. could still play. Every time I see him, I'm like,
Starting point is 02:08:28 now I can get out there. Yeah, no question, bro. Yeah. No question, man. Yeah. Yeah, he nice with it. When you're watching the league now, are you like, god damn it, they can't do anything with the quarterback? Because it is totally different. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 02:08:41 Does it piss you off watching it? It might as well just put a flag on them, man. Yeah. Like some of the stuff, it's like the linemen are pushing you into the quarterback a lot of times. And it's just crazy to watch, man. But it's football, man. It's a contact sport. Some of this stuff is gonna happen.
Starting point is 02:09:01 They trying to do the, where you tackle the running back and by the hip or something like that. You're not, your whole thing is to get them down. Like you're not saying, oh, let me do this illegal tackle so that I could tear his ACL or break his ankle or something like that. Like you're just trying to get the guy down, man. You running full speed.
Starting point is 02:09:22 You don't have time to gauge like, oh, is my helmet gonna come in contact with his helmet, is he gonna duck fast enough for it to not be a penalty? You don't have time to think. You just go and you just react. I think all of this stuff, somebody gotta step in and everybody always wants to make it,
Starting point is 02:09:41 let's score points, let's make this league easy to score points and stuff like that. And nobody really thinking about what the defense gotta go through. Yeah, there hasn't been a rule change that favors the defense in a very long time. The only thing they got is like, if you are not seeing the block that's coming.
Starting point is 02:09:58 I think the lineman from the coach just did something like that. Quinton Nelson. Yeah, he could have knocked the dude black off. And he was just like, hey, just stick my hands out here. And you can see how easy it is to just knock somebody down because New got pancake. And he didn't even do nothing.
Starting point is 02:10:18 He was like, is that good? Give me a thumbs up. Like, help them out. That was dope. But if that was Olin Cruz or something. Yeah. Yeah, we've been different. It would've been a wrap for you.
Starting point is 02:10:28 Yeah, no, you're right about the hip drop tackle. To me, it seems like the NFL is, they like to make it seem like they're making steps for player safety, but I've noticed, I've seen three hip drop tackles, and they're not calling them. So they made the rule to discourage people from doing it, but they're not actually enforcing the rule.
Starting point is 02:10:46 Because they see how ridiculous it is. You see these guys, they're not trying to end people careers. They're just trying to get you down, man, and get to the next play, get off the field. So I don't agree with that hip tackle stuff, man, but like you say, man, they trying to, it's a contact sport sport and I get it. Like you're trying to protect people
Starting point is 02:11:09 and trying to protect the guys getting injured and stuff like that. But it's a physical sport, man. It's gonna happen. Yeah. This might be a dumb question, but at what point did you figure out what kind of face mask you like to use?
Starting point is 02:11:23 That's actually not a bad question. Not a bad question. Bad question. I think you just, you learn from whoever the guy that's on your team that got the most swag, you just learn from him, man. That's what I do. I wanna be like you, big bro.
Starting point is 02:11:40 Like, hey bro, what'd you think about this face mask? Did they immediately be like, nah, and then you'd be like, then you just go to the next one? Or you just say, out of the face masks that defense linemen wear, which one is the most respect? Like, which one would get the most respect? And so I take that one. They used to have the ones for the defense linemen
Starting point is 02:12:01 that would have the bar down the middle, too. I can't do the bar down the middle. I can't, yeah, cuz I'll be looking like this Like nobody nobody want to do that. Yeah, how weird is it for you now? you played in the NFL you're a great NFL player play the Penn State and Now you're just it's sometimes just a meme Where it's like oh shit, that's my face because you do have some of the best with cream biggums or just some of your pictures You know
Starting point is 02:12:30 Obviously the one with you behind the tree rubbing your hands like is that so like people don't realize like oh, that's an NFL player They just see the meme like oh, you're the meme guy. Mm-hmm. Is that weird? No, it's just like a testament to what I'm doing now. Yeah. I mean, like I do a lot of stuff on social media and stuff like that. And if you want to, I guess, dig deeper, you could find out that I actually played nine years. When I put pictures up of me, like action shots of me playing, they like, Oh man, this Photoshop guy.
Starting point is 02:13:03 Because there's a whole like group of people that are like, oh man, this Photoshop guy is pretty good. Right, because there's a whole group of people that are like, oh yeah, they probably see you on the street, you're like, oh you're the guy from behind the tree in the yellow suit. Yeah, and it's funny, man, because it's just like, I've got to the point where I got a second career now, you know what I mean, and I'm making something from that, and I think the fact that I played nine years in the NFL
Starting point is 02:13:28 is kind of just like, it's an afterthought now. You know what I mean? And I just gotta move on. Like I'm a dad now. Like a volunteer coach at my son's school. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I was talking to you earlier. Like I feel like I'm an Uber driver.
Starting point is 02:13:41 I'm just taking the kids back and forth to practice and stuff like that. I'm just like a regular dude. Is it hard coaching your kids being like, I know football better than everyone, but I have to kind of take a step back here? Because I would imagine that'd be frustrating at times where it's like, no, I've played in the NFL.
Starting point is 02:13:57 I know what I'm talking about, but I'm not the head coach. No, I don't take myself too serious like that. At the end of the day, these kids are 15, 16 years old and they need to hear from other folk and people who've been coaching for as long as I've been playing in the NFL. You know what I mean? So it doesn't matter how long I played in the NFL,
Starting point is 02:14:23 these coaches know what it's like to coach these teenagers longer than I've been playing. So I give the coaches the opportunity to coach my son up when he get home and stuff like that. I got a video I just put out now where he has to take the garbage cans up front. I don't care if you played football, basketball, I don't care what you, you taking them cans up front. I had don't care if you played football, basketball, I don't care what you, you taking them cans up front.
Starting point is 02:14:47 I had to do it, you about to do it. So I set these cans up as a center. I had a guard and I had to tackle. Three waste management cans. And I'm like, this is how you squeeze blocks. Like you stop running up field, you can't rest the passer every time. You gotta stop the run. So this is passer every time, you gotta stop the run.
Starting point is 02:15:06 So this is what you do, you condense the gap. So I'm coaching him, whether it's he taking out the trash, whether he's cutting the grass, whether he's doing the dishes, I'm like, you see how you washing the dish like that? Imagine doing a club move and coming with a rip, it's the same type of motion, and you gotta have your hands tight. Football's everywhere.
Starting point is 02:15:28 I'm always coaching them. You see football everywhere. Yeah. So you open the door for your mom, you see, like you gotta, it's just like ripping the ball out. It's the same thing. Like it's like the peanut punch. You gotta open the door.
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Starting point is 02:17:23 As a defensive unit in the back of your head, where you're like, we'll get at least one every game because of Peanut. Yes! If you watch the field, whenever I see 33, I'm sprinting. Because I'm like, you never gotta worry about me sprinting to the ball if Peanut is around. I'm like, and it paid off for me in the Eagles game. And I think Vic might have been a quarterback,
Starting point is 02:17:46 but he hit somebody on a slant. Sure enough, Peanut punched it out, and I got an opportunity to get it, man. I ain't go nowhere, because Alex Brown didn't block. Per usual. But it had to have felt like almost a superpower, being like, we got a guy back there that he'll get the ball at least on the ground once a game.
Starting point is 02:18:05 Peanut was by far one of the hardest workers I've seen. This dude, the game where Adrian Peterson went crazy on us but then he went crazier against the Chargers, you could see Peanut chasing every time. And Peanut would be on the other side of the field and he'd be running like he's gonna get him, and he would be the last line to try to swipe at his legs. So I respected him so much for that,
Starting point is 02:18:32 and it's just contagious. When you see somebody working that hard, you're like, man, I gotta meet his level of intensity, or at least look like I'm giving everything that I got too, because that's a hard job. You come off of trying to get somebody on a go route. These dudes are sprinting down field every plane, running all kind of routes,
Starting point is 02:18:55 and then you chase Adrian Peterson on top of that, and then you gotta go block for Devin on putt. Dog, Peanut had got so much respect for me, man. He's just like an all-time great teammate. He goes to my son's games. Oh wow. Yeah, like and we win. He seems like the best dude ever.
Starting point is 02:19:13 Dog, Peanut is one of the best dudes. Best teammates I've ever had, bro. Did you, so you picked up that one fumble that he forced. Did you ever return a fumble? Did you ever get like the legs moving? Alex Brown, man. Alex Brown don't ever want to block. Yeah. Because if he see a ball on the field, it's his. You know what I'm saying? So he's still trying to get the ball. I already got it.
Starting point is 02:19:34 Alex, go block. Like he are like, every one you see me get, Alex didn't get a block. So we love watching when big men pick up a ball, when they get to run a little bit, and it looks kind of goofy sometimes if it's one of the bigger guys, and then you realize how fast those big guys are running. It's crazy. And they're running faster than anybody that you're watching the game with.
Starting point is 02:19:54 Yeah. The speed, like what was your 40 time? Was it like around five seconds? My best 40 was a 497. True. See, that's crazy. It's absurd to think that a big man can run that fast. It's like watching, have you ever seen
Starting point is 02:20:08 a rhinoceros run? I have. Dude, it's crazy. I've seen it up close and personal. I was like, God, that rhino is rolling. But I guess that's just how we look when we run. We be moving. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:22 Moving, dude. It's crazy how fast that. Sean Rogers used to get like interceptions when he was with the Lions and he would, he got a couple of touchdowns on his belt, but he used to be moving. Was there ever a guy that you just absolutely had his number? Like an offensive lineman that you were like,
Starting point is 02:20:37 I am going to feast today. Not an offensive lineman, but every time I played Donovan McNabb, I would get a sack. Okay. Or at least it seemed like it. So even if like, he was with Washington at the time, I was like, I got a sack? I was like, oh shoot, man,
Starting point is 02:20:53 there must be something about McNabb. So whenever we play somebody and McNabb's a quarterback, I was like, hey, I might have a shot. I might get a sack. Was there, so you were one of the first NFL players to like embrace YouTube and embrace like taking, you know, your media into your own hands. And at that point, I think a lot of coaches had no idea
Starting point is 02:21:12 what players were doing when it came to like promoting themselves via their own channels. Were your coaches like completely cool with it all the time? Like Spice is gonna make another video? No, because when I did that at the time, I was a free agent, you know? So I was like at the point where I was about to retire. I didn't know that, but you know,
Starting point is 02:21:32 it had got to the point where I had got released in February, and I respect Lovie and everybody for that, because they called me, and like the defensive coordinator called me, defensive line coach, the linebacker coach, the DB coach, because they called me. And like the defensive coordinator called me, defensive line coach, the linebacker coach, the DB coach, like everybody called me personally. That's too many calls. Hey, but sometimes they don't call you at all. Yeah, I know some people who found out
Starting point is 02:21:56 on ESPN Bottom Ticker that they got released or whatever. So I remember when Lovie got fired, Jay was on Waddle and Sylvie, and he found out literally like sitting in studio, he's like, I gotta go. That's crazy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so I respect them for the fact that, you know,
Starting point is 02:22:12 they hit me up or whatever, but once I retired, well, in February when I got released, you go through March, that's when everybody's getting their free agents and stuff like that. And then you go through April, May, nothing. June, nothing. So now you get into camp. And now it's like, I can't get into nobody's camp, man.
Starting point is 02:22:33 I'm calling around, calling different coaches or whatever. And I'm just like, dang dog. I'm trying to get my 10th year. I got goals, I wanna play till I got 15 seasons. And it's just not like nobody is biting, like nothing. I want to play until I got 15 seasons. And it's just not, nobody is biting, nothing. And so then you get to the point where, all right, you had camp, now you gotta wait
Starting point is 02:22:54 to see if somebody gets hurt. And then they'll call you in or whatever. But in the meantime, you gotta stay in shape. So you gotta lift weights, you gotta keep running and stuff like that, you gotta make sure you don't get yourself injured, you know? Cause sometimes you'll go into, like let's just say the Baltimore Ravens,
Starting point is 02:23:08 they call you in, they want you to work out. Like you gotta run a 40, you gotta do 225, you gotta do like all these agility drills. I'm like, dog, throw on nine years worth of tape. Like I ain't like. It's right there, you know what you got. Dude, you got me going up against this 24 year old that you gonna get league minimum to, and now you got me going up against this 24 year old that you gonna get league minimum to
Starting point is 02:23:26 and now you got me, if I'm in year, I'm going into year 10 so the minimum you can pay me is a million. So you pay me a million and you pay this guy that's 24 year old, you pay him $200,000 at the time, whatever the minimum was at the time. And so you gonna take the 24 year old every time. So why am I coming here running 40s
Starting point is 02:23:46 and doing all of this stuff? So at that point I was just like, I'm about to stop chasing this dream. And so around like October, November, I was just like, I just started making the videos. And I started getting with guys like Chris Harris, one of my teammates who was just like, he was on Twitter and social media like real heavy so I made this video stuff NFL free agent say this is what I was going through at the time and I let
Starting point is 02:24:14 him see it I was like dog should I post this he's like yeah man you know we see this all the time in a locker room but nobody else really get a chance to see how funny you are whatever so I put it out and then it got you know A couple hundred thousand views and I was like I might be on or something So then I just started making a YouTube videos then I made the retirement video and it just it went crazy Yeah, we're crazy. I mean your videos are so funny whenever you do the old guys and you put on the suit Oh, yeah, put it put in the head for everybody got an uncle like when you put in the Bluetooth headphone,
Starting point is 02:24:45 it's like Superman getting into the phone booth. You just know whatever you're gonna put out there is gonna be amazing. Do you ever do that without video? Where you just do it just like, hey, I'm just gonna live a day as this guy. Oh yeah, you know, I remember one time I took my wife to Target,
Starting point is 02:25:04 and I had like this hair dye on my face and everything. I was pushing a shopping cart and stuff like that and I was going down the aisle that has all the weight equipment. So I'm in there doing curls. I'm like, hey, how you doing, little mama? So yeah, I get it. We at the grocery store.
Starting point is 02:25:24 I got on a full blue powder dumb and dumber suit with a cane. And I'm in LA, hey, make sure you get the crew ties for the salad. You know, so I'm just, it's just me. Like sometimes I come home, I'll be in a yellow suit or something like that. And the kids be like, oh, dad is shooting a video.
Starting point is 02:25:42 Shh, like be quiet. Like, no, I'm just wearing a yellow suit shooting a video. It's just Wednesday. I would wear that yellow suit out to like a park and just stand behind trees and then wait for somebody to just look at you. Be like, yeah, it's me. He caught me. It's such a great element. It's a perfect picture. So I don't, I don't know that I've ever seen the actual video. So I have no context from what the entire video was. So yeah when you're rubbing your hands behind a tree what was happening in the video at that moment? Oh so that's a whole nother deal so we were
Starting point is 02:26:15 taking family pictures actually and we had a professional photographer everything so I got like the you know how it is, I got the jeans with the nice cardigan sweater, and you know, you taking pictures with your legs crossed and all that, but we in this park or whatever, and so I get an idea, I'm like, let me go to the minivan real quick. I was like, I got like a yellow suit in there. Let me go in there, so I go to where we parked at.
Starting point is 02:26:46 I go get in the minivan. You can see the minivan like moving like this because I'm changing the clothes in there. And I saw come out with the yellow suit on and my wife was like, oh my gosh, like, what are you doing now? Like we are paying money for these pictures. So I'm like, just take the pictures, whatever.
Starting point is 02:27:04 Like, it'll be cool. And I was like, just take the pictures, whatever. It'll be cool. And I was like, I think it'll be cool if I come around a tree like this, like I'm looking at you. And she just take the picture, so you just start snapping away, whatever. And then I just posted online, just being funny, whatever.
Starting point is 02:27:18 And it just went crazy. It's the perfect picture. It went crazy. I've been all in Australia doing commercials for that. Like it's crazy. It's the perfect picture. It went crazy. I've been all in Australia doing commercials for that. Like it's crazy. That's company called Superloop. I'm out in Australia in my yellow suit. Like behind me.
Starting point is 02:27:33 That's what I'm saying. Like the fact you played in the NFL for nine years and then the yellow suit behind a tree picture is like, yo yeah, that's him. Yeah, it's crazy. You're also the guy that stinks of shooting basketballs, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one is, that's him. Yeah, it's crazy. You're also the guy that stinks at shooting basketballs, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:46 That one is, that's, it's an art form, making just a clip with no sound that's like a second and a half long that will make you laugh every time you see it. That's where we linked up at. I was in Minnesota at the time. Yeah, and that literally is like anytime anyone has a bad shooting night,
Starting point is 02:28:01 that is auto, here comes Spice Out. I was 412. 412 pounds dude. Like that was a wild time man. That was a wild time man. But it's hard to be that bad. You know what I'm saying? I gotta like really work at it to like be that bad dude.
Starting point is 02:28:21 Like it's just unnatural. Like cause you know when, that's all I did was play basketball coming up, man. And I was a big dude, but I could still do everything the little dudes was doing, man. But it's bad. It's hard to be that bad. And to not just be that bad, but to be bad in such a funny way, like you're missing shots that are the most comedic
Starting point is 02:28:41 missed shots of all time. Yes. Just like they would normally go in. That's the vibe I'm giving where I'm clapping my hands. Oh, just missed. Oh man, there's something going on with my goggles. You know, but it's fun, dude. I did the All-Star game, the Indian All-Star game,
Starting point is 02:28:57 Celebrity All-Star game as Kareem Biggums. It was fun, man, it was fun. Doing the social media has taken me like all across the world. Yeah, the funniest part about Kareem Biggams is you are trying to intentionally be bad, but the way you move, anyone who played, you know, professional sports, they move different than normal human beings.
Starting point is 02:29:18 Like, they just are smoother. So you're moving like a guy, it's like, that guy played somewhere, but then you missed a shot, you're like, wait, maybe he didn't, because you could see it. You could just see how athletes move, they just move in a silky smooth way. Dude, the whole thing came about,
Starting point is 02:29:34 I wasn't even gonna post it. I was doing these crazy moves in my garage, I never think it was like July, it's June, and it was just hot, and I didn't have a tripod, and then I just put my like July at the time June and it was just like hot and I didn't have a tripod and then I just put my phone on top of a ladder and I was like I'm just do all of these moves and it just stayed on my phone and then one day we were in somewhere my son was in the Junior Olympics or something like that and we were off at Ball State and I was falling asleep and the Warriors were playing Cleveland at the time and I was like as I was
Starting point is 02:30:12 falling asleep I was like I'm gonna just post this video dude like this is so stupid like I'm gonna post it I'm a slap NBA finals on it so I posted it I fall asleep and then I wake up to my phone going crazy, like it was notifications from like all my friends and everybody's like, yo, Kevin Hart just posted your video. So I'm like, man, chill out, bruh. Like this man is a full blown comedian, like a rock star actor, like he didn't post my video.
Starting point is 02:30:41 Maybe he commented on my page, but he didn't post it on his page. So I go to his page and it's on there, and I'm like, oh shoot, and it's got like, he just posted like 30 minutes ago, he got like 500,000 views on there. I'm like, god dog. So then when he posted, Snoop Dogg posted.
Starting point is 02:30:58 Then Jamie Foxx posted, then Ludacris posted. I'm like, god dog, this is crazy. So I had to create an account for Kareem Biggums, he got like 300,000 followers. And he was on NBA Live 19. Like he was rated 89, like one higher than Magic Johnson. He dunking on people. Dude, I flew out to Canada, to Vancouver,
Starting point is 02:31:19 they put me in that big old onesie. Green suit with the bubbles and stuff on it. So I'm out there doing moves and all this stuff and they put it in that big old onesie. Green suit with the bubbles and stuff on it. So I'm out there doing moves and all that stuff and they put it in the game. That's amazing. That's crazy. That's amazing. All right, I got a couple last questions.
Starting point is 02:31:33 We started with it, but we're not freaking out about Cale Williams. No, no. It's fine. I think even some of the passes that he missed, like you can see, they're almost there. You know what I mean? Like whereas sometimes you see people throwing skippers
Starting point is 02:31:47 or they throwing passes that have no shot. It's like his art, they're in the area. And a lot of them come from him leaving the pocket. Which he's kind of wicked when he leaves out the pocket. So, you know, that's. And his eyes, the big thing is he got sacked seven times. He got hit like another whatever, five, six, seven times. His eyes stayed downfield.
Starting point is 02:32:09 Like it wasn't, you know, hopefully it stays that way, but like he's got the confidence still and he got the fuck beat out of him. Bruh, the offensive line, need to look at this film, bro, and correct it, and go back to the drum board. is that coaching or is it is it something that can be fixed because it did feel like yes maybe they aren't the most talented group but it also is like it feels like they're not blocking as a
Starting point is 02:32:36 team too maybe they need to fix it scheme wise yeah because I think that's that's that's who we have yeah right. The backups probably can't do any better than that. You know what I mean? So you gotta find ways where you can protect those guys. You know what I mean? Whether that's three step drops or that's quick passing or something like that. Yeah, whereas sprint outs or bootlegs or something.
Starting point is 02:32:59 Get him on a move, run more screens or something, run more draws. Put Herbert and Swift out there at the same time, like create some type of mismatches, like just get creative man so that you could, you know, hide where you're weak at. Yeah. How bad did that suck as a defensive lineman
Starting point is 02:33:17 when you got caught on a screen? You're like thinking, oh my God, I got a free run at the quarterback, I'm gonna get a sack. Oh shit, now I have to run all the way back downfield. Not many times because when you're in a position like me and you can't afford to make mistakes like that because they'll just replace you. And then I know for a fact, if you're not blocking me,
Starting point is 02:33:42 I'm automatically looking. So that was never one of my weaknesses. If I was a three technique, you may could get me on a trap or something like that, but a screen. That was my bread and butter, dude. I'm not saying I was that guy when it came to people running screens, But you couldn't really, there's no way you're not gonna block me.
Starting point is 02:34:09 I'm like, it's something up. Right, there's that one moment when usually it's like a defensive end and they take those two steps and then they realize what's happening and you can see the look on their face. They're like, oh no, this is too easy. You'll never get Peppers.
Starting point is 02:34:21 You'll never get Julius. And Rob Maranlli had us so tight that by the snap of the ball, I already know what you're doing. I already know what you're gonna try to do. I know from the depth of your steps, I know from the double team, I know if it's a true double team
Starting point is 02:34:39 or if it's just one where you're trying to get up to the linebacker. Rod Marinelli is the guru when it comes to defensive line play. And once I got under his tutelage, it was like, he basically put three years on to my career. That's cool. For sure.
Starting point is 02:34:56 You never played for Tom Suley, did you? No. He's our guy. That was after, yeah. Yeah, all right, I got one last question for you, Spice. It's a row back question, rhoback.com K calm promo code take 20% off your first purchase QZips polos hoodies joggers shorts See this I was doing off the rift. I closed my eyes row back calm RHO B a C K calm 20% off QZips polos hoodies joggers shorts best best clothes out there. I'm impressed
Starting point is 02:35:22 Bad memory, but the, the NFC championship. Ah, first of all, do you hype and everyone up is an all time clip. It is, it is. I've been everyone up. Um, I will actually, it's, I just want to say, I don't think the defense gets enough credit in that game with Jay getting hurt. And, uh, the Packers, I remember so vividly, the Packers go down the field. I think- You remember!
Starting point is 02:35:48 I know, but all right, so I'm giving you credit here. This is going back to credit. Packers go down the field in the first drive and I was like, oh fuck, this is a problem. You guys locked it up the rest of the day because I know that they had a short field and scored another touchdown and then the BJ Raji picks six, but you guys were lights out after that first drive.
Starting point is 02:36:05 And it's like obviously the game became about Jay getting hurt and Todd Collins and Caleb Baney. But you guys were. Don't even say Todd Collins. You guys were playing lights out. I mean the second half didn't, they didn't score. Except for BJ Raji. I looked myself in the mirror the night before
Starting point is 02:36:23 and I was like don't you be the guy to say I was one game away from the Super Bowl. Don't be that guy. And here I am. Man. I just wanted to give you credit. It was, the first two drives they scored. Yes, they were.
Starting point is 02:36:37 And then that was it offensively. I was like, this is, they're gonna score a million points today. There's no stopping them. They had just put up 45, I think, on Atlanta. And that's how we got home field advantage. But, oh man, it was one play where Lack had got a pick where I felt like, dude, I gave everything I had, dog.
Starting point is 02:36:57 If I would've just got one hand on Aaron Rodgers to like block him, he probably wouldn't have tackled Lack. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, we had a stunt, me and Tommy Harris, and I got to the point where I took my guy and I just drove him back and I just, I had no more legs. And so after, like we took Rodgers out of the pocket and I'm just, at this point, I'm running so fast and so hard,
Starting point is 02:37:25 like I'm falling on my face now. Like I just gave everything I got and the only thing that I had left was just this arm swipe right here at Rogers. But if I had a little bit more balance and strength, I could at least just like push them where that would have took his angle off of tripping up lack on that interception.
Starting point is 02:37:48 And that's the thing that I think about the most. Shit. Well, sorry for bringing it up. I wanted to give you credit. Because I think that that game gets lost in everyone's brain where it's like. Dude. Oh, it's because the backup.
Starting point is 02:38:01 We took a high power offense, man. And they scored 14 points on us, man and that was it that wins you the game It was so cold that day if you can hold an office a high-power offense to only 14 points You should win that game. Did you like playing the cold? Oh, I love playing. I don't get tired in the cold No sleeves. Oh, yeah, like a big dog. No none at all. Yeah Yeah, you just throw the Vaseline on. Tummy out. Let's go, you clogged the pores up, let's go.
Starting point is 02:38:29 The coldest game I played in, it was a January 3rd night game. We played against Green Bay. It was so cold, if you drunk water and you spit it out, it would turn to icicles before it hit the ground. That was by far one of the coldest. I've never went, the bench was heated, so you'd go and sit on a bench,
Starting point is 02:38:48 when they had a TV time out, then you'd come back out. And then they had, the Gatorade bottles was filled with chicken noodle soup. I love that. You had the bone broth, the steamy bone broth. Yeah, you'd think that big old Gatorade thing is all full of Gatorade is chicken noodle soup. Do they have the oxygen on the sidelines for you? I ain't need it then. I need thing, it's awful. The Gatorade is chicken noodle soup. Do they have the oxygen on the sidelines for you?
Starting point is 02:39:06 I ain't need it then, like I need it when it's hot. Yeah. But I don't need the oxygen when it's cold out there, man. Like a real live bear, like for real. I'm in my element then, man. At that time I was like 310 pounds, 305 pounds. I'm like, let's go. I was a little wider back then, too.
Starting point is 02:39:25 Yeah. All right, well, Spice, you're the man. We'll definitely come back any time. Oh, man, let's do it, baby. So yeah, it was way too long since the last time. That was, what, 2018? 2017, 2018. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 02:39:38 You do look like you could still play. Yeah, man, that's what I'm going for, man. I told everybody, man, Ryan, and Pose, everybody, say, man, I can what I'm going for man. I told Everybody man Ryan and pose everybody say man. I can give you 20 plays not in a row Yeah, but I can get you to give me some goal lines some like 30 ones when you know, they're gonna run I get out there How fast would you get hurt whoo? Uh, I don't know man. I would like to find out Who? I don't know, man. I would like to find out.
Starting point is 02:40:04 Let me find out for myself. Yeah, I mean, they do like, the Yankees do like old timers day. Why don't the Bears? Yeah, man, I'm not practicing. Just put me out in the games and then we'll see. Yeah, like warmups and see how I do. Yeah, see if you can stay on the team, man.
Starting point is 02:40:21 Yeah, game time decision every week. All right, well, thanks so much, Spice. Appreciate it. Yes, game time decision every week. Alright well thanks so much Spice, appreciate it. Yes sir, anytime baby. Spice was brought to you by our great friends over at Chevy. There's a reason we've never done a Mount Rushmore pickup trucks and that's because for part of my take
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Starting point is 02:41:57 Welcome back to another fire fest of the week brought to you by our friends at Morgan and Morgan. You know, it really sucks having to look at Hank making faces at us all podcast. You know, what Hank, this really sucks right now. You just did a face. This really sucks Everyone can agree this really sucks. You know, it doesn't suck is Calling Morgan Morgan if you're injured because they can help get you what you deserve if you are injured that sucks, too But just know what doesn't suck is calling Morgan Morgan. They will get you what you deserve While they can't help having to stare at Hank on the couch all episode
Starting point is 02:42:32 They can help fight to get you full and fair compensation when you're injured Their fee is free unless they win for more information go to for the people comm slash PMT or dial pound law pound 529 from your cell phone Okay, let's wrap up the show. Ah Firefrest the week Henry Okay, let's wrap up the show. Uh, FireFest of the Week. Henry. Nothing too crazy. Good, I'm happy. I've relapsed though. Oh no. On Game of Thrones. Oh, you've gone back.
Starting point is 02:42:54 I feel like a lot of people are doing that now. There's been enough time. Yeah, I think it was House of the Dragon ended. And I just started watching Game of Thrones. I saw a TikTok edit and now my tick-tock is just Game of Thrones, and I'm just I'm deep is it better the second time through um It's good
Starting point is 02:43:15 But it's getting to like season 5 season 6 where things get sad there's things get bad, and then it's gonna get sad Yeah, it's gonna sad, and then it's gonna get bad. Yeah, are you gonna watch the final season? Yeah, I probably will. Did you watch Red Wedding? Yep. That was crazy. That was crazy, it was good. That was nuts.
Starting point is 02:43:31 So that's it? That's not bad. Your Fire Fest is you're watching a show that you like. I guess the Fire Fest would be, we're in like the greatest sports time of the year and Hank's gonna watch a show you already watched. Well. It's not like I'm watching it over sports Yeah, exactly. It's not right. It's not like you don't have two TVs You can watch Game of Thrones and and sports. I can't wait for October baseball
Starting point is 02:43:56 Max on the stream I'm so excited. We got to all bet on the Phillies. I got it. I got a six of my Padres that Shitting on me yesterday, you know, whatever I got dunked on my max all I could think of was just the Phillies. Yeah The Phils. Yeah, that's my foot that well Good. I might you're talking about it now, but uh, that's good. Good. Do your firefest the playoff baseball's coming And I can't handle what winter Winter is coming meme. I'm thinking about it. I've been thinking about it. I mean that's a good tie-in alright I'm gonna look right now. Yeah, what I mean max. This is your best. Can we get the overalls back? I got it
Starting point is 02:44:40 They sent me a new pair yeah They look so sick. Yeah, I love that Davis in on it, too I love that All right, I'm looking it up right now That's the worst case scenario first run loss or World Series loss First round law you think so you're gonna be so much more upset. It's the World Series again Yeah, what if it's it? What if the Yankees? I just yeah That's that's my only fear is that it's Yankees Phillies because I actually will have to root for the film that would be awesome
Starting point is 02:45:15 But then did you imagine you and I on the same squad? Yeah, then Dave will get so mad at you if the Yankees beat the Phillies Yeah, we can't we can't we can't have that happen like we can't That's worse gotta be the Orioles. It's not gonna be the Yankees Right Well, do we just have a draft pick come in? What was that? Memes what was that? My bad when I downloaded all the apps to my phone
Starting point is 02:45:40 I just get a thousand notifications from every app and your notification is the draft draft pick is it? Yeah. That's kind of cool. Yeah that's a football guy. That's very cool. Yeah Max I'm very excited for the Phillies. I'm very excited for just to watch it all. Alright I'm doing this right now. So if you did Phillies to win the World Series, Eagles to win the Super Bowl, and Villanova to win the National Championship. And you put $100 on it, you'd win $799,000. Titletown. I like that.
Starting point is 02:46:18 Titletown. Villanova's gonna be horrible this year. Although I think they might beat Maryland in football this weekend. What's just Eagles and Birds? Eagles and Birds would just be 11 to 1 because that's the same team What yeah, I mean Eagles and Phil. Sorry Eagles and Phils would be a hundred to win 7,000 I'm gonna you know what let's do alright, so Villanova's out
Starting point is 02:46:38 Sixers they're gonna be so bad sixers six sixers 76ers Titletown max title town sixers could win it all They could sixes are gonna be good this year. Yeah, you're really good. Hank's gonna be fucking rooting up a storm for yabu Okay, so this might be it If you do sixers Eagles Phillies a thousand bucks wins six hundred eighty four thousand title town. I like that max Have a little faith in your boys have some faith in the boys Sirians gonna figure this thing out. We should actually just bet it for all of them to make it to the finals
Starting point is 02:47:14 Who's the best coach you got who's the best coach in Philly right now? Jay, right? Yeah, it would be Jay, right? Probably topper Rob Thompson. Yeah, I like Nick Nurse to honestly. Yeah, sir. Y Jay. Probably Topper, Rob Thompson. I like Nick Nurse too, honestly. Sirianni's probably third in that. Well, he's not even the coach. I don't know the name of the Flyers coach. Big Tom's a coach. All right, PFT, your FireFests.
Starting point is 02:47:36 So my FireFest of the week has been going on all week. I don't know if it's the fact that I moved into my house like a year and a half ago or what it is but my smoke detectors have been beeping at me all week. Gotta change the batteries. I agree here's where the real fire comes in. Hardwired? Are they hardwired? You don't know screwdriver? You don't know what a battery is? They're too tall for me. I'll come and do it. I'll do it. I have a step stool. I'll come over. I'll come over. And it's a normal step stool where I can probably get up, I don't know, like nine feet.
Starting point is 02:48:09 It's got two levels on it. I don't have a ladder. And so every time I get this beeping sound, I bring the step stool over there every time, just to get on my tippy toes. And I can touch the thing. And I'm trying to turn it and unscrew it so I I could put the battery in and it's just at the tip of my fingers where it's enough to make me think I can do it if I get up
Starting point is 02:48:32 high if I put on my tallest pair of shoes like a dictionary or something you can stand on top of the step stool but so that's what I've started to do so I have changed two of them already and then the third one started beeping on me this morning the the previous two one I had to pull a desk over to stand on the desk. The desk isn't that sturdy so I felt like that was bad. The second one I went down to the kitchen. I have a bar height chair. I brought the kitchen chair up because it's a little bit taller and I was able to do the second one. But again, I almost fell over on that one. And then today the last one started beeping and I'm not I don't feel confident in my
Starting point is 02:49:07 game on either the desk or the stepstool so I have to figure out one way to make myself taller without I think what you need to do is find like Danny Lance he's tall someone who someone who's in the office but won't be like oh I had this person come over I need to invite a man over to my house a man but won't be like oh I had this person come over I need to invite a man over to my house a man who won't tell anybody correct came over correct are there any services like that online if I just Google yeah tall men yeah tall men to come over to my house must be very discreet see you got a problem that's what I'm looking at reach it I need somebody to your pipes clogged to
Starting point is 02:49:42 help me unscrew this thing that's I need I need a man with big hands to come up. That sucks. I could do it for you. No, it's okay. I think I'll just... I won't do the second part, not talk about it. I think I'll just let it beep. Okay.
Starting point is 02:49:53 I think that's probably my plan. You gotta wait till like, yeah, just wait till you have a party. And then have someone just do it who's at the party. I'll be like, oh shit, this just went off. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, can you help me real quick? I might have people over on Saturday to watch some college football Yeah, height party and just bring white boy Rick over. Yeah, and it's just him
Starting point is 02:50:11 So I got that my other fire fest is so we're playing pop punk is playing tonight Buford's on West 6th Street in Austin, which is gonna be a great time. I'm very excited about it It's a free show if you want to come out. It's gonna be a blast come party with us afterwards, but If you want to come out, it's going to be a blast. Come party with us afterwards. But we're playing Freebird. And it's the song that I've been trying to learn for the last, what, four years? I said I was going to do it.
Starting point is 02:50:32 And now it's nut-cutting time. And I don't know if I'm ready. But I think I might be ready. You got it. But it's so hard. You got it. It's so hard. You got this.
Starting point is 02:50:40 Freebird. It's Freebird Friday. You got it. That would be awesome. Freebird's making a comeback. Yeah, it is. I saw the yeah the recorder guy the guy playing on the recorder There was a girl playing on the bagpipes last week fucking love it free bird. Maybe it never went away It was inside of us. No, I always play free bird. All right, my fire fest I need similar to max's sleeping thing. I need AWLs help
Starting point is 02:51:02 So I've been trying we've been talking about getting healthy for our 40th birthday We are I am I've been lifting like three four times a week But I don't have enough time in the day. So I've been trying to wake up early I I have started by setting a mental alarm clock if you already wake up early Well, yeah, I do but this is like earlier than early. So my real alarm clock is set every morning for 650 My mental alarm clock I set for 6am. I've been setting my mental alarm clock for a month. This week was the first time I actually didn't hit the mental snooze and went and worked out at 6am. It completely wrecked me. I've been so tired since. How do people do it? How do you get up? I just want to, I have all, I have a gym in my house,
Starting point is 02:51:45 so it's like, I just have to go downstairs. There's everything's there. It's as easy as possible. I don't have to leave my house. I just need to get up and get out of my bed at 6 a.m. And that gives me 50 minutes to work out before I gotta take the kids to school. How do you do it?
Starting point is 02:52:00 What do you mean by mental alarm clock? I don't want to wake up my wife, so I set a mental alarm clock. So my eyes, I'm pretty good at like setting by mental alarm clock? I don't want to wake up my wife So I set a mental alarm clock so my eyes I I'm pretty good at like setting a mental alarm clock I will wake up at 6 o'clock pretty much every morning, but I then hit the mental snooze to check your phone Absolutely. I have a fan of I do the og real thing I was gonna say if you have I use the fan app and if you just have that you can set an alarm on that So it turns off, but I don't want to wake up my wife So I have to the mental alarm is me just literally opening my eyes every night. I go to bed
Starting point is 02:52:30 I'm like open your eyes at six o'clock, and I do it no sir. I do it pretty much I probably do it like six out of seven times a week. It's just then getting up After my mental alarm goes off, so what do you do after your mental alarm goes? I was I you said that I tried putting your own no I hit the mental snooze so you just go back to sleep Yeah, okay the other side of the room Well, it's not it's a mental alarm It's the mental like if you need to put your brain on you want to talk about the phones you keep the phone is
Starting point is 02:52:59 Absolutely the phone the phone I forget well the phone But Hank the phone is not the whole point is I have to be able to wake up without anything going off because then I can sneak out of the room and not wake anyone else up. Right, but if your mental alarm, you wake up and then you want to check your phone, you still have to get up to go check it. But I know when my mental alarm goes off, I know it's six o'clock and I just go right back to sleep. Can I give you a tip?
Starting point is 02:53:21 Start chugging water before you go to sleep? Because that way when you wake up in the morning and your mental alarm goes off You'll have to wake up get out of bed go piss and then you'll already get the blood moving You'll get piss moving your body's awake. Yeah, maybe that's a good idea Yeah, I think you need to chug a shitload of water right at bedtime Don't understand how people do it how people wake up early and work out I should do it four days a week, 530 lifts. I can't believe that that was once like a daily, like a routine in my life.
Starting point is 02:53:49 I used to do that before work too when I had a real job. And you get in this zone where you just wake up at 530, six o'clock every day. I never got used to it. I hated it every single time. Yeah, and I can't, like there's nights when we're here till like one in the morning, so it just kind of fucks everything else.
Starting point is 02:54:04 Do you take any pre-workout? I don't okay So what you could do is just is have like a shot of pre-workout right next to my bed Yeah, what you do is you set the alarm you set your your mental alarm for 530 And then you wake up at 530 take the shot of the pre-workout hit the mental snooze and then as you're hitting the mental snooze Hit the mental rewake up at 6 o'clock. then you'll open your eyes at six, ready to go. It's not a bad idea. Yeah. Everyone, everyone, everyone who talks about getting up early, they're like, you just got to get through the first couple of days and it becomes routine. No, there's no way that
Starting point is 02:54:36 that, there's no way that like, there could be someone who wakes up at five 30 in the morning to go work out every day and has done it for a year. There's still no way that it's fun. No, well, I think some people are just, there, there are people who can do that and there are people who can't. Well, and also there are people who just go to bed at like eight o'clock. Like, do you guys have friends? I have a friend who goes to sleep at like eight thirty.
Starting point is 02:54:56 I don't trust him. I don't trust him. That's insane. That sounds like a loser. If you go to sleep before. I agree, but it's insane that he does it and it's just like, what? I guess sure 830 or 9 if you if you work at a certain type of job like if you're a
Starting point is 02:55:09 teacher sometimes you have to wake up super early don't just get less sleep that's what I do I have to get up at 650 every morning I still don't go to sleep now I also fixed the dog problem you. No, Hank reminded me just I just got a sound machine and I just haven't woken up since that's the easiest is these. What about the snoring problem? Also kind of fix that. How I got I went the mouth tape was a problem before because I couldn't because you ate it. No, well I wasn't eating it. You did eat it once. No, I never ate it. Um, but I got the, the, the breathing strips and the mouth tape because the breathing strips helped me breathe through the nose while I'm sleeping. So you much look like Hannibal Lecter. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:56 Yeah. You, you, when you get ready to go to bed, it's like, is he going to play a football game or is he going to go into bed? Exactly. Yes. That is the thing. Yesterday I woke up and there there was also like a there was almost like a bruise on my nose from the from the strip It's probably because you were trying to eat it That's you're trying to eat your nose. How would I get how would I even do that your body? You do rate you create you eat in the middle of your sleep your body's rejecting the breathe right strip That's what it sounds like to me You just want me to you just want me to continue to have these problems. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:56:29 I want you to continue to diet with us. I'm dieting. Oh, so you're going to do, maybe that's, do you think that's what's helped? The one we, I mean, I also had a cheat meal last night. That's all right. You have meatballs. It was meatballs. You have cheat meals, calories in, calories out. That's all matters day. Otherwise. Yeah, but then I had like
Starting point is 02:56:49 Whatever. All right, you're fine. Yeah, okay good show boys numbers nine 11 3 72 99 pugs back Hey 72. 99 Pog. He's back. 8. Memes in PFT, have you ever gotten this? No, I've not gotten it.
Starting point is 02:57:11 I don't think 8's in there. 93. 93. 9's are hot. 9's are hot. All right, see you, everyone. Sunday. Love you guys. So So So
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