Pardon My Take - Super Wild Card Weekend, Fastest 2 Minutes, Chargers Choke, We Were Right About The Vikings And Who's Back Of The Week

Episode Date: January 16, 2023

Super Wild Card Weekend. We start with Fastest 2 Minutes and then recap the games from an awesome weekend of football. (00:00:00-00:08:18) Niners 41, Seahawks 23 (00:08:18-00:31:07) Jags 31, Charger...s 30 (00:31:07-01:07:18) Bills 34, Dolphins 31 (01:07:18-01:27:03) Giants 31, Vikings 24 (01:27:03-01:47:11) Bengals 24, Ravens 17 (01:47:11-02:00:57) We finish with who's back of the week. (02:00:57-02:19:35)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, super wildcard weekend. We're going to recap every game, five games. It was an incredible weekend of football. We're going to talk about all of them.
Starting point is 00:00:21 We're going to maybe talk a little bit about being dead ass right about the Vikings. I'm not going to take a victory last week. I'm not either. Hank being dead ass wrong. We have a lot to get to. It's going to be a great, great show. Nothing better than talking football with the boys.
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Starting point is 00:02:00 Boy! Now in the street there is violence and then there's lots of work to be done. No place to hang out or wash it and then I can't live all on the sun. Oh no, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we're taking higher
Starting point is 00:02:26 Oh, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we're taking higher Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, January 16th. Super Wild Card Weekend. What? Football.
Starting point is 00:02:52 What? The game we love. We starred in San Francisco. Brock Brock, who's there? Perti. Perti who? Perti Perti Good as the Niners took on the Seahawks with Mr. Irrelevant at the helm.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Everyone thought it would be a blowout until D.K. Have a good day. That's two. Showed up scoring twice and giving Seattle a first half lead. In the second half, San Fran said, fuck it, let's rock out with our Brock out.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Letting Perti throw it around the yard. Devo Samuel Cook said, these D-backs can't stay with me cause I'm running for TD and the route was on. But don't feel bad Seahawks fans. This season was a success as Wilson, King of Interceptions had the internet
Starting point is 00:03:44 lay their hate on him and you're still having fun Seattle. Niners 41, Seahawks 23. Down to Devo where Trevor Lawrence spent the first half in the depth of Sante's Inferno throwing four Interceptions and almost going full Peterbin.
Starting point is 00:04:05 The Kramerose at the top as Austin Cream Pie Eckler exploded twice inside the end zone. Fortunately for the Chargers, the game is 60 minutes long and let's go Brandon Staley picked a terrible time to be conservative as he'll have plenty of time to watch games
Starting point is 00:04:20 from his basement in the future. The Chargers' Chargering is a tale as old as time and on Saturday night, they lorentzed and repeat the same tragic tale as the Jaguars took a big chug of their Trevorage full of Michael's secret stuff at halftime
Starting point is 00:04:35 and came back for the shocking win. The Jaguars are jagging off. 31, Chargers 30. I always say it was always the Jaguars. It was always. In Western New York, the Bills were playing with an extra pep in their step as Hamlin continues his demarcable recovery.
Starting point is 00:04:55 The scoring started with Dawson. I am the one who knocks as he exploited the Dolphins' defense with too much speed and Skyler White Thompson hung around with way too much screen time annoying Bills fans all afternoon. Both teams took their shots back and forth
Starting point is 00:05:11 except for it's no worse than a common coal, Beasley, who disobeyed the Dolphins' mandate to stay out of their end zone. What ultimately did the Dolphins in was an inability to understand Mike Tyson McDaniels as he called plays in late all afternoon
Starting point is 00:05:27 and their season faded into Bolivia. No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. Bills 34. The Dolphins 31. Over to Minnesota where Tesla owner Daniel Jones was trying to quit school
Starting point is 00:05:45 as he was on auto drive all afternoon. The Giants offense had their aha moment as Sequan me, Sequan me ran through the television for two touchdowns. TJ Clarkinson uses two hands to make every second count
Starting point is 00:06:03 saying watch this as the Vikings tried to build a win brick by brick, a very affordable, stylish watch brought to you by Dave Portnoy. Brian, ready, willing, and day ball was up for anything as an offense gashed Minnesota all day
Starting point is 00:06:17 leaving Kirk with one last drive. I'm getting to fourth and eight. I'm feeling this. You're throwing it way too short. I'm feeling this. Justin is way downfield. I'm feeling this. Why did you check down Kirk?
Starting point is 00:06:30 I'm feeling this. They fell short this time. Kirk's throw fades to the summer. Giants 31. The Jeeven. Beat the Vikings 24. We finish in Cincinnati where the Ravens were up to the task
Starting point is 00:06:47 as J.K. Rowling Dobbins took the Hogwarts Express to the end zone and Baltimore was winning for the first nine and three quarters of the game until tragedy struck as Sam L. Ron Hubbard leveled up and Tom Cruise
Starting point is 00:07:01 his way to a 99-yard score changing the entire game. And then the game came down to one final prayer as James Crochet almost needed Baltimore to a win but the ball bounced right in front of him and the Bengals survived. 24-17.
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Starting point is 00:08:14 come on Hank get your head out of this bank Hank took the Vikings he's an idiot all right welcome to part of my take super wild card weekend
Starting point is 00:08:31 almost in the books we still have Monday Night Football and I just want to start the show by saying holy shit that was so much fun that was a great two days of football five awesome games like think about it we going into this weekend
Starting point is 00:08:47 I think there was all there was a little bit of a vibe like oh you know a lot of young quarterbacks first time quarterbacks you know maybe not the sexiest matchups besides the second half of Seahawks 49ers every game delivered and that game delivered just because there were Debo Samuel making awesome plays
Starting point is 00:09:05 like that was an incredible weekend of football I love football we should just be blessed that we got that I think no matter who you are even if you hate football like Max this was a weekend where you had to just sit down and appreciate the gift that is the beautiful game it was so much fun
Starting point is 00:09:21 so we have so much to get to but we wanted to just respect football first and say thank you football because I think you need to have those moments where you take a step back and be like you know what whether your team lost, your team won your bets lost, your bets won
Starting point is 00:09:37 like I lost a lot of bets whatever who cares the football was awesome sometimes it takes having football taken away from you for a brief period of time to really realize how much you truly care for it those three quarters on Monday Night Football we missed out on
Starting point is 00:09:49 like about two and a half hours of potential football and guess what it's funny how the universe works because we're going to get those back and an extra quarter next weekend great divisional round
Starting point is 00:10:01 that's very very exciting alright so let's get into every game because we have five games to get to we watched all of them that's the other part about Wild Card weekend I mean all the playoffs
Starting point is 00:10:11 Super Wild Card weekend being able to sit down and just focus on one game is so awesome so I was thinking about this today when we were watching we had three games back to back to back which was incredible what if the NFL scheduled a weekend
Starting point is 00:10:24 that was like that but the game started at nine and then we just had games going pretty much nonstop yeah why not do it Sunday do Saturday Sunday so right after college football ends do Saturday Sunday Monday yeah start every game at nine
Starting point is 00:10:37 yeah but then we could have a year up game you could have a year up game in the morning you could even do a Friday night game yeah the problem with that is that we say that because these are the best 14 teams remaining
Starting point is 00:10:49 so then we would have to watch like the Bears play the Texans and everyone would be like what the fuck is this I think I just say it because the NFL has me by my balls yeah and I will watch whatever they put on my screen but it is like being able to just soak in every single game and be able to watch it
Starting point is 00:11:04 and like see the ebbs and flows and where the games change is the best you know what we're giving each team each game it's proper credit right and the attention it deserves exactly so let's start we'll do chronological order
Starting point is 00:11:17 Niners 41 Seahawks 23 I want to start with our guy Brock Purdy because I was fighting off the internet I actually wasn't fighting off the internet because I just didn't care but I thought Brock Purdy I was actually very impressed with his performance because
Starting point is 00:11:34 that first half he looked bad he looked pretty bad especially like the first quarter and a half when they fell down 10 nothing he missed a lot of easy throws now well no they didn't they didn't fall down 10 nothing they were up first but yeah
Starting point is 00:11:44 to defend Brock Purdy a little bit it was wet yeah it was wet but he was he looked jittery he looked like a guy who was Mr. Relevant who got put on a team a loaded team and got in the playoffs
Starting point is 00:11:56 it's like hey go wing it he was missing guys wide open it felt like one of those games that if the Niners had that Brock Purdy to start a game against maybe a better defense that could have been a disaster that could have been turnovers
Starting point is 00:12:09 that could have been interceptions so in that moment I was like he's back to looking like Mr. Relevant everyone then dunked on me on his second half he did look bad in the first half but where I'm giving him credit I thought the fact that he looked like that in the first quarter and a half
Starting point is 00:12:24 and then came back and was lights out like you just if you're a Niners fan you watch that game your one worry is Brock Purdy how's he gonna respond to his first playoff game not well to start and then incredible to finish and now he's got one under his belt
Starting point is 00:12:39 he started 9 for 19 147 yards in one TD that's a stat line that if you were just looking at the stat line you're like oh it wasn't that bad he was he missed like wide open guys he didn't see Debo Samuel on one route
Starting point is 00:12:51 that was like an easy touchdown but then he finished 9 for 11 185 yards two touchdowns he couldn't miss in the second half yeah I mean the best thing that I can say about Brock Purdy is I think he would be
Starting point is 00:13:03 a perfectly averaged quarterback in a system that wasn't Kyle Shanahan's system yeah I think he's got like his DNA his makeup is such that I think he can exist and be a starting quarterback somewhere else maybe not like super successful right now who knows what he's gonna grow into but right now he is like the perfect quarterback
Starting point is 00:13:19 for that team I don't know like we can look down the line a little bit and say I don't know how Trey Lance is gonna come back and take that job from Brock Purdy the way that Brock Purdy is playing he's playing as good as you can possibly hope I think Brock Purdy is the future for the 49
Starting point is 00:13:32 so the only thing is what if they got Tom Brady go there next year if they got Tom Brady I think that Brock Purdy would probably take a year back and probably gladly study underneath Tom Brady and then it's his team he's like quarterback and waiting at that point and take over
Starting point is 00:13:48 because remember the Trey Lance pick after like the smoke cleared and everything came out it kind of came out that it wasn't Kyle Shanahan's pick and he got overruled he actually wanted to take Mack Jones so like I wouldn't be shocked if Kyle Shanahan's like hey Brock Purdy's winning games he just wants to play off game
Starting point is 00:14:06 he is playing very very well like I said in the moment at the start of the game he didn't look great anyone who would disagree I would be like what game are you watching those first it was like one of the first two drives where he just
Starting point is 00:14:20 it was actually the benefit was he was so off they were not interceptable because he like threw behind his receiver by like five yards so it wasn't even close to the interceptable but the way he finished I was watching
Starting point is 00:14:33 it was like maybe he is Kurt Warner he had one where he missed his receiver and the cornerback high by like seven feet and so it landed harmlessly and the camera zoomed in on Purdy's face and he just didn't even really blink he was just like hey that's on me and he didn't get down on himself
Starting point is 00:14:48 he's fun to watch I officially like Brock Purdy I think we need to stop talking about him as just being perfect to that system I think that Brock Purdy is officially now he's been upgraded to not a bad NFL quarterback and I mean that in like
Starting point is 00:15:02 the global sense of the starting 32 quarterbacks yes and he well he's not a bad starting quarterback in terms of the totality of the league while admitting that he is on the best system because you know when you get to the playoffs
Starting point is 00:15:14 your big time players making big time plays Christian McCaffrey going 136 total yards and a touchdown and Debo going 165 total yards and a touchdown it is so much fun watching the Niners where they're like
Starting point is 00:15:26 oh let's just get it to these two guys and Brandon Ayuk and George Kittle and let them just be better than everyone like that Debo when he ran for that touchdown and that Christian McCaffrey
Starting point is 00:15:37 like 60 yard run whenever it was the early in the second quarter I want to say I think it was his first run of the game yeah you just you're just reminded like holy shit the Niners are as loaded as low as can be but yeah I
Starting point is 00:15:48 I'm a Brock Purdy believer especially with how he responded to start of that game I think he's going to be the quarterback for the Niners next year barring like some like Tom Brady or some other type of catastrophe I actually went up
Starting point is 00:16:03 went and looked at Brock Purdy's draft pros and cons so his pros were like plus accuracy quick release his cons are kind of funny because a couple of them are actually like strengths in Kyle Shanahan's system
Starting point is 00:16:17 one of his cons was written as field vision narrows too often which like okay you have the best players in the world on your team it's okay if you narrow in on Christian McCaffrey or Debo Samuel and a lot of times it plays that they call for you in San Francisco or like you're going to do a pump fake to the left
Starting point is 00:16:33 pump fake to the right and then here's the option that you're throwing to and then the slant right over the middle and then the other one was plays tight few calculated risks that also is kind of a pro in Kyle Shanahan's office offense where it's like if you play in the system and you don't make the mistakes
Starting point is 00:16:48 if you don't try to be a hero the system will work for itself yeah if I was a scout what I would do for like every quarterback that was projected to fall to the fifth, sixth round I would just say like upside could have a Tom Brady type career in the right environment yeah and then once every like 30 years
Starting point is 00:17:03 somebody will dig up that scouting report and you're right about one of the guys like that turns out to be the best can you look like a genius yeah just talk out of both sides of your mouth it also I was reading some of the quotes after the game like the way the Niners players are talking about Brock Purdy
Starting point is 00:17:18 they 100% believe in him and why wouldn't you they've won 11 in a row and I mean so this game let's talk about the Seahawks like it was crazy because I think we all expected the Niners to kill him and the game was closed
Starting point is 00:17:33 the Seahawks were winning at halftime the game basically switched on that one penalty that the Seahawks took in the red zone where it was 23-17 with like three minutes left in the third quarter which is like if you're the Seahawks you're driving
Starting point is 00:17:49 down six points in the third quarter against the Niners whenever it was ten point underdogs and they get that illegal man down field on like a seven yard game that would have made it third and two from like the ten they back up Niners get the strip sack and then it was over
Starting point is 00:18:05 and then it was just like okay now the now the route is over the strip sack was the one mistake that they could not afford right and it seemed almost like too easy that they got to Gino on that one and I feel a little bit bad for Gino because he had a season that he needed like Gino as a person
Starting point is 00:18:20 as a person he needed that they're probably going to bring him back I don't see why they wouldn't bring him back I don't think Pete Carroll wants to try to develop somebody else new after what he's been through this season but Gino Smith is worth more to the Seahawks than he'd be worth for any other franchise out there so
Starting point is 00:18:35 if you look at the teams that need a quarterback right now the only one that I would like to see Gino Smith go back to more I would like to see him go back to the Jets that would be cool like unfinished business that'd be fun that'd be very fun and I actually think that he'd be a good fit on the Jets no I didn't think Gino it sucks because it's like Gino
Starting point is 00:18:52 made two big mistakes he had the interception and the fumble and it sucks because you'd be like oh Gino the game ended on that play because then the Niners went 70 yards and they went again and it was just over but Gino played pretty well it's just that the Niners
Starting point is 00:19:08 are so much better than the Seahawks he had to play perfect he didn't play perfect you know what I mean? it's kind of unfair to be like their margin for error was so small like they had to play a perfect game to be able to beat the Niners and they did for a half and then that fumble happened
Starting point is 00:19:24 and the Niners defense kind of figured something out where they didn't let D.K. Metcalf just run I mean he was incredible all day but I like I wouldn't I wouldn't walk away from that game being like Gino Smith oh old Gino's back it was more the Niners are just better than the Seahawks
Starting point is 00:19:40 like offense defense I think Gino Smith just got good randomly just late in his career takes people time I don't think that he's gonna turn back into old Gino I think he might fade away back into old Gino eventually just out of sheer age yeah he might age out of being a quarterback but I think that he's just good now
Starting point is 00:19:56 that's who he is as for D.K. here's a fun fun stat D.K. Metcalf this is a stat from Mike Florio not our Mike Florio but another guy who's named Michael Florio which is that's very weird in the three wild card round games that D.K. has played in
Starting point is 00:20:12 seven catches 160 yards for touchdown five catches 96 yards for two touchdowns and then 10 catches 136 yards two touchdowns D.K. is a beast in the playoffs he's officially a beast yeah and there was actually kind of a little bit of questions because that second Niners Seahawks game
Starting point is 00:20:28 he got a little bit bottled up so it was like can he like are they you know is the Niners defense too good are they too physical but no he was awesome he was Kenneth Walker was good too but he was he was their offense I'm gonna see your turning point and I'm gonna raise you with the dumbass
Starting point is 00:20:44 of the game that was the real turning point of the game okay the dumbass of the game was whoever it was on the Seahawks that grabbed Debo Samuel's leg after they tackled him oh yeah and then tried to twist it because yes first of all you don't tug on Superman's cape spin in the wind you don't fucking twist a man
Starting point is 00:21:00 named Debo's leg when he's on the ground and then his entire team got up and like had his back right after that that was a turning point that's when the Niners were like okay we're done playing with the Seahawks let's just fucking fuck them up okay so counterpoint to that when I talked about the Seahawks having to play a perfect
Starting point is 00:21:16 game I think part of their perfect game was injuring Debo okay but they had to injure Debo for part of their perfect game to have then you got to go full injure Debo you don't like you don't hurt Debo I wouldn't be shocked if that wasn't part of the defensive meeting like okay guys like we got to keep Debo in front of us like
Starting point is 00:21:32 George Kittle's gonna be good over the middle Christian McCaffrey a weapon and also if we can figure out a way to get like one of them out then we could win well if there's a way that we can figure out to injure Debo, Kittle, and Christian McCaffrey and then Brandon Ayuk and Fred Warner probably
Starting point is 00:21:48 somebody needs to have a knife yeah which one of you guys wants to have the knife on the field today I love Brandon Ayuk by the way he's he's so underrated because he plays in such like because everyone thinks Debo Christian, McCaffrey, Kittle Brandon Ayuk is awesome he had a nice block on that dime that Brock Purdy
Starting point is 00:22:04 threw to Debo where Debo had like I don't know 65 yards after the catch yeah he just hit the burners yeah okay no one's gonna catch him it was awesome but yeah whoever Jake can you figure out who that dumbass of the week was that twisted Debo's leg he has very stupid super moron also weather's not real Hank shout out
Starting point is 00:22:20 you you were right I don't know if you said for this game but you're right yeah I mean that's it that it was sunny it was like sunny in the second quarter that was the most false news of all time that I think they just did that I think here's my you know tinfoil tinfoil hat maybe a little too woke
Starting point is 00:22:36 there was perfect weather everywhere else and they're like we need to pay our weather people to like we need something to fill a little bit of time on the pregame shows so let's just make up a huge rainstorm in San Francisco at the start of the game it was wet Pete Carroll was wet and that's when I saw
Starting point is 00:22:52 that I was like he's always a little the 49ers are in trouble because we got a we got a damp Pete Carroll on our hands and he's a better coach when he's wet everybody knows that the gum smacks louder the hair sticks together he gets to wear one of those slick little rain coats that he likes his skin looks better when it rains it glistens and then he
Starting point is 00:23:08 just dried out he just dried out over the course of the game because I think it stopped raining entirely in the first quarter yeah yeah a little peek behind the cordon curtain here I mean I'm not a meteorologist but one thing I use to kind of handicap whether or not whether is real is if the tweets and videos that people are using come out
Starting point is 00:23:24 like five hours before it's usually not going to be that weather in five hours weather changes yeah that's yeah that's like that's kind of you know that's the little insider tip for the people out there it's too early for weather doesn't stay the same for five hours yeah any forecast that you make before like an hour before kickoff
Starting point is 00:23:40 is irrelevant there was a big jay that was the video that was going around that I saw it was a big jay it was literally six hours before tip off dude what are we talking about tip off kick off and it was pouring rain it's like yeah mm-hmm six hours weather effect basketball at all yeah yeah winds could few minutes outside you're shooting wind yeah
Starting point is 00:23:56 it was actually hard knocks legend Jonathan Abram the raiders that's right the guy Gruden had to be like hey can you please not hit Derek Carter in walkthroughs yeah he was like haha okay coach whatever and Gruden was like no I'm serious please
Starting point is 00:24:12 please don't injure a starting quarter and he kept on asking people what Salman is yeah what's Salman we mean Salman yeah okay so Seahawks like I know that losing a playoff game sucks but you can't judge this season other than an A plus yeah
Starting point is 00:24:28 they have the fifth pick and they got rid of Russell Wilson and they went to they were leading the Niners who kind of everyone thinks is the best team in the NFL right now they were leading them at half yeah and they and they might have found their guy in Gino who won't be that expensive and now you can do the same
Starting point is 00:24:44 thing that you did with Russ where it's like build everything up around Gino yeah I'd say I'd say solid a yeah if you want a game I would instead of a plus one playoff game that's an A plus but you're very happy with where you are right now especially considering that most people picked you to win three games yes yes um last question
Starting point is 00:25:00 so Niners Max let's have an honest conversation the Niners are scary um sure yeah yeah no they are no they are scary scary yeah but there were there were things that I saw
Starting point is 00:25:16 yesterday that were like we can be this Max you tell Max can I just tell you like it's okay to be scared wait no no I want to hear Max break that what where were the weaknesses you already said it Brock Purdy in the first half like against a good defense he got away with so many things in that first half and also
Starting point is 00:25:32 credit to the Niners defense you we already talked about it but the Seahawks may have won that game if that if that strip sack doesn't happen I mean it was a six point game with them going in it was a ball game the Seahawks were in were in that game
Starting point is 00:25:48 like through and through and then obviously the strip sack happened and everything changed but if the Seahawks score on that drive take the lead in the third quarter like then you have to see Brock Brock Purdy in a situation that you haven't really seen him in and he got bailed out with the sack but I don't know
Starting point is 00:26:04 I'm I was very good he was very very good in the second half yes but I didn't look at that I was like oh this is a team that has has no flaws you know what Brock Purdy is really good at he's very good at managing the pocket so like knowing when to step up he's got that
Starting point is 00:26:20 sixth sense where he can feel somebody coming behind him yes and a lot of rookie quarterbacks they they like bail after a second and they get happy feeling like let me get out of here Purdy knows like how to step up where to step up and how to manipulate people in the pocket and you know what I actually think that part of his
Starting point is 00:26:36 little struggles the beginning of the game and again I'm sure there'll be people like there'll be people like dude he was fine he wasn't well if you watch the game he was he he if he does that against a really good defense it's a problem but it didn't last so it's not a problem
Starting point is 00:26:52 as of right now he was doing a spin he kept on spinning and it was such a wide spin and he would end up and then he finally was like doing going back to like you said he has a nice little pocket presence where he's it's almost like he makes himself small and then big he's like
Starting point is 00:27:08 a blob fish that was he makes himself small and then he makes himself big again like he like fits through little areas and has a presence of mind of where yeah where everything is and yeah I'm I think I'm back I started the game being like Brock Purdy's a problem
Starting point is 00:27:24 and I ended the game Brock Purdy's back to being Kurt Warner I think Brock Purdy is just a very he's a very very not bad quarterback yeah but it is true Max is right like if he does if he has a bad start like that and they get in a hole it could be could could look differently I don't know if we can
Starting point is 00:27:40 compare him to Kurt Warner though well because Kurt he didn't spend any time in the grocery store no picture Brock Purdy's stocking shelves but Iowa they got the Iowa isn't that where he was Iowa barn Stormers and Brock Purdy was it was in Ames yeah
Starting point is 00:27:56 that where Kurt Warner played Arena League and he that's where he was doing their movie about Brock Purdy yet starring an actor that doesn't look like Brock Purdy I'm pretty sure it was grocery store in Iowa when he was on the Iowa barn Stormers and then you have Brock Purdy at Ames
Starting point is 00:28:12 Packers then the bar in the Iowa barn Stormers right so there's a connection I think that I think there's a connection there I think Brock is his own story though because he's as Mr. irrelevant that's something that's a storyline that is yet to be fulfilled yet
Starting point is 00:28:28 in the enough oh absolutely somebody going for Mr. irrelevant there are a lot of guys that are out there that are undrafted and Cinderella stories but nobody has had respect it gets put on your name for being the very last person selected to be a professional football player has always it's never made sense to me because
Starting point is 00:28:44 it's still a team being like you're so good that we want you on it we want to keep you off of every other team right and bring you in here for a workout it's essentially what it is is when everyone leaves the fantasy draft in the last round because you just auto draft kickers today and you like and if you have the last pick everyone's out
Starting point is 00:29:00 of the draft so you're just sitting in there by yourself yeah that's what it feels like when you draft Mr. relevant but he is I'll say this and I have no idea who else is on this list I'm going to say right now Brock pretty best Mr. irrelevant of all time oh without a doubt he
Starting point is 00:29:16 hasn't won any championships and we have another Mr. irrelevant who's won a championship at what position quarterback who Chad Kelly great cup winner all right so I'm going to say it again he hasn't won any championships yes yes that's what I'm saying like that's the story he is one of one Brock pretty
Starting point is 00:29:32 best Mr. I should have known who's Chad Kelly I thought for a second there Billy was going to drop like a 1975 Mr. like come on it was it was Chad Kelly I was going to say the Mr. relevant thing is it's like at the end of the night at a bar and you've all had a
Starting point is 00:29:48 bunch of drinks the selection is not what it should be and then you're like okay that person and then you end up going home and then you're like you know what I got to get up for work early tomorrow yeah but that's what Mr. Brock was going to do he was going to go to Brock's house
Starting point is 00:30:04 yeah that same thing played out and then it's like oh it was actually Brad Pitt that I went home yeah congratulations your Brad Pitt and it was like Brad Pitt dressed up in like elderly makeup like when Kyrie Irving goes to record yeah yeah it's to be an old guy we're doing the thing
Starting point is 00:30:20 where we're talking ourselves so into Brock party that's gonna it's gonna end in disaster but I'm I went through it getting just I just have to have a look at the people who show up like five hours later after a tweet I I wish I could edit it and just be like anyone who
Starting point is 00:30:36 quote tweets this is a fucking has a small dick and is a loser because they were like when I tweeted it he looked like Mr. Relevant and then he played well and then I was getting I was getting quote tweets like eight hours later being like bad take bro well it's like well we watched the game
Starting point is 00:30:52 you just got to give Brock pretty time to settle in in a playoff game yeah this is so it it was expected for him to take some time to become the Brock party that we've seen over the last month yeah parties he's just I think in the story Brock party is officially not bad yeah
Starting point is 00:31:08 agreed we actually have an actual Mr. Relevant who's won a Super Bowl who Ryan suck up the kicker for the box oh okay kickers don't count all kickers are Mr. Relevant yeah so all right so I learned my lesson because it will get a segue into the next game with the
Starting point is 00:31:24 tweet I I did the same thing in this next game with someone playing very poorly in the first half but I made sure to clarify the exact time and place in the game and it was Trevor Lawrence after throwing four interceptions to start the game the Jaguars
Starting point is 00:31:40 won 31 30 against the Chargers Trevor Lawrence started the game four for 16 for 30 yards and four interceptions and it was as bad as bad looks and on top of that I forgot I said that I don't think
Starting point is 00:31:56 Asante Samuel Junior is that good he had three interceptions in the first quarter that couldn't have gone worse for me all right so as far as the Jaguars and the Chargers go I I'd like to make a motion to ban the word Chargers from the studio hmm well you're hurt and well the future
Starting point is 00:32:12 I we can all admit we all saw the same thing yeah I don't think that we should disrespect this podcast by using that type of language in these walls okay it's like saying you know like saying Macbeth in a theater the whole place probably gonna burn down we should not say Chargers
Starting point is 00:32:28 in the walls of part of my take until they win a playoff game because the Chargers they're dead to me they're officially dead to me I think that Brandon Staley should be tried for war crimes as a war criminal I think that it's a disgusting act what I saw in the entire second half of that game
Starting point is 00:32:44 and the fact that everybody saw it coming at the end at the end of the first half the second well I I mean Mac said it Billy said it I tweeted it everybody knew it was happening yeah the second that they did not score a touchdown to capitalize on that muff punt in the second quarter
Starting point is 00:33:00 everybody was like this is gonna happen oh oh yes okay will happen so it's it's so much worse than that let so yeah we'll talk about the Chargers first we'll get to the Jags Jags are like that was an awesome night we'll give them their their flowers but so the Chargers
Starting point is 00:33:16 I was reading an article by Daniel Popper shout out that's a great name on the athletic he broke down the play so the turning point if we want to talk about turning points in the game the Chargers getting the ball back
Starting point is 00:33:32 or getting the ball with three minutes left and they're up 27 nothing and if they get a first down if they get three points in this year on this drive if they if they just wait you know if they just go into halftime up 27 nothing they probably win this game if you remember obviously they punted they went three and out
Starting point is 00:33:48 and then the Jaguars came down scored and it was it felt like the momentum had shifted right there because it was like oh Trevor Lawrence has found something like he was as bad as bad gets and then he found something so this play is the most Chargers thing that could ever happen so if you remember
Starting point is 00:34:04 there's two minutes left it's third and one right they're getting to the line of scrimmage to run the play they're Joe Lombardi who is a fucking moron and everyone agrees he needs to be buried underneath the Hague ok so here's how it sets
Starting point is 00:34:20 so Joe Lombardi they get to the line of scrimmage Justin Herbert has an audible he has a kill it's called for an inside run if it's looking like the Jaguars are ready for the inside run there's a kill for a jet sweep to Deandre Carter
Starting point is 00:34:36 ok Joe Lombardi has run four jet sweeps this year Deandre Carter for negative 21 yards so let's just start there terrible play call hasn't worked all year Deandre Carter is Mike Williams back up Deandre Carter who got hurt
Starting point is 00:34:52 in week 18 because Brandon Staley's a moron Deandre Carter got banged up so now they have a guy Michael Bandien who has not practiced this play and they run the play and he's not even looking for the jet sweep they fumble they punt the Jaguars score
Starting point is 00:35:08 and it's 27-7 that's the most Chargers ever to have not only a bad play call but it's a play call for a guy who is filling in for the guy who got hurt in week 18 and then that guy gets injured so you're on your backups backup
Starting point is 00:35:24 and he doesn't know the play the Chargers deserve all of it themselves they make their own like fate like the fact that we're sitting here and they have a bad play because Brandon Staley's so fucking stupid he started his starters
Starting point is 00:35:40 in a meaningless week 18 game you deserve this and I'm not talking about Chargers fans we'll get to them I'm talking about the Chargers you deserve this Brandon Staley you deserve this nice guy we had him on once yeah it's like the butterfly effect
Starting point is 00:35:56 except everybody involved is criminally stupid yeah it's tough it's tough and I have sympathy for Chargers fans I can't imagine why you're still a fan of the team even if they like the team that has made your life living hell gets up
Starting point is 00:36:12 and moves out of your city and you still support the team and it still does this to you like I'm sorry I'm sorry that you're going through this right now the Chargers are just bad I don't want to say their name anymore I think I can easily be talked right back into putting a future on them
Starting point is 00:36:28 for next year if they hire Sean I won't let you do it this is all bad and I said all this stuff about like how bad it must be for your Chargers fan but I also kind of get it because you list all the guys that they have on their team which we did they win they beat almost any team
Starting point is 00:36:44 and a guy also a Saudi Samuel did get burned on a touchdown and the fourth downplay that the Jaguars ran that was actually designed just to pick off a Saudi Samuel okay so what I'm saying is they've got the guys right and I'm as mad
Starting point is 00:37:00 at a team that I don't root for as I've ever been in my life and within about 15 minutes after the game I found myself logging back onto the sports book and seeing if I could get a look ahead for 2024 Super Bowl Chargers thinking that Sean Payton
Starting point is 00:37:16 might coach the Chargers at that point so I understand that it's like it's a disease being a Chargers fan and I've got a touch of it it's also an incurable disease like we always joked about yeah we always joked about it's terminal we always joked about Phil Rivers and like this tragic
Starting point is 00:37:32 you know late in the afternoon you're watching Phil Rivers try to take the Chargers back it wasn't Phil Rivers it was like if Phil Rivers went to the Giants he would have won two Super Bowls it's the Chargers it's the Chargers and it's so much so that so
Starting point is 00:37:48 in this article I still can't believe that like this Brandon Saley had to say this he actually has he like said out loud that the Chargering is a thing and that he's trying to break it if you have to admit that this thing exists that the Chargers are the most
Starting point is 00:38:04 tragic team in like all of professional football I think you just don't take the job so here's the quote the history this is Brandon Saley the history of this team when I got here it was like someone's gonna get hurt they're gonna blow a lead something catastrophic is gonna happen there's this Chargering and there's
Starting point is 00:38:20 all these external factors that I know in my life they're just all excuses they're just all excuses and so alright well how do you change that well you have to do things different you have to have a different approach and then Brandon Saley started coaching the Chargers and he did nothing different
Starting point is 00:38:36 and he did no different approach well ok so he did do something different there's another reason why I fucking hate this team I never want to talk about him again is because Brandon Saley got hired by the Chargers and he comes in and he's a defensive coach so they're like ok this guy's gonna be conservative he's gonna be pretty much standard coach
Starting point is 00:38:52 and then no he starts acting like a big fucking drunk weirdo and starts going forward on like 4th and 13th from his own 20 yard line that's fine I would like yeah go out there be crazy you can't game plan against crazy they don't know what to expect and now this year what did we say on Thursday we're like we get the vibe that Brandon
Starting point is 00:39:08 Saley is gonna be normal and he's gonna be very conservative and guess what there was normal Chargering here's another very funny stat but you're right PFD like the the way to beat the Chargers curse is to be the crazy dude that everyone's yelling at on Twitter because he never will kick a field goal
Starting point is 00:39:24 he actually was doing the thing to break the like curse that somehow the Chargers have and then he spent enough time there that he just reverted back into a plain old boring coach that makes stupid decisions you gotta get so crazy that you out crazy yourself right
Starting point is 00:39:40 you gotta outsmart yourself at times my buddy Spilly tweeted this out it's the Chargers win probability it matches up exactly with the lightning bolt oh that's right that's actually it's an overlay that's sick that's the and also those win probabilities make no sense because they
Starting point is 00:39:56 the Chargers are the Chargers it should be when they were down 20 when the Jaguar scored and made it 27-7 going into half it was a 50-50 game yeah so it was a coin flip even when it was 27-0 when they didn't get a touchdown
Starting point is 00:40:12 off the muff punt I think a lot of Chargers fans out there were like well this can go really bad if Trevor takes the ball down the field and if they score a touchdown right now and that's exactly what happened it could have been way worse at halftime for the Jaguars as bad as it was
Starting point is 00:40:28 and as bad as they played they could have very easily been down 35-38 nothing at halftime and they weren't and yeah like the ball dropping off the head the team Statholt texted me teams in the playoffs that had a plus five turnover differential were 26-0 going into this game
Starting point is 00:40:44 and then the Chargers they had plus five turnover differential the Chargers and the Falcons should have their own probability chart which is heavily weighted it's like the American dollar versus the Canadian dollar we should just subtract 30% from whatever the wind probability says it is for those teams
Starting point is 00:41:00 and I do like that they have their distinct ways like the fact that the Chargers finally got everyone healthy and then Brandon Staley was like let's play everyone week 18 and then lose Mike Williams who if you've seen any of the stats you know when Mike Williams is on the field and their average when he's not
Starting point is 00:41:16 and then you get plays like I mentioned before where you have the backup of the backup trying to run a jet sweep that he didn't practice which was a play that fails anyway but Brandon Staley his I feel like we're talking a mile minute I like it because we're fired up
Starting point is 00:41:32 this is just passion that people are getting in their ears right now Brandon Staley the analytical king the prince that was promised everyone talking about him last year this guy does it different this guy's new age he realizes at 7 points or more than 3 finally someone
Starting point is 00:41:48 Brandon Staley on 4th and 3 from the Jacksonville Jaguars 22 yard line decided to try to make the game from a 2 possession game to a 2 possession game they were up 10 and he said
Starting point is 00:42:04 let me go up 13 what the fuck dude if you get a 1st down and score a touchdown if you go up 17 late in the 4th quarter the game is over and I know the chargers are still there but the game is over when you're up 17 with I think it was
Starting point is 00:42:20 how much time was left it was like maybe like 4 or 5 minutes left if you go up 17 there the game is officially over that means you have to score 3 times that means they have to get an onside kick no one gets onside kicks all that stuff he was like no let me try to kick a field goal
Starting point is 00:42:36 and guess what the kicker missed it and on the flipside you have Doug Big Balls Peterson who like genius when Bosa lost his mind for the 17th time in the game was like you know what let's go for fucking 2 Trevor Lawrence is 6-6
Starting point is 00:42:52 he can dunk from the foul 8-47 at the miss field goal but if you go up 17 with 8-47 I actually believe the win probability like if you score a touchdown to go up 17 and a change left you're going to win the game most likely
Starting point is 00:43:08 because that is again they need to score they need to play perfect football you either need a turnover that you return for a touchdown or get close to returning for a touchdown or you need to have 2 onside kick recovers instead it's just score
Starting point is 00:43:24 get a punt score and if Brandon Staley if he truly knew the depths of how bad Chargeron got he probably would have shot away from kicking a field goal and Dicker had a great season and he was one of the reasons why people were like this Chargers team, myself included is different because
Starting point is 00:43:40 they don't have a shitty kicker they've got a good kicker now a good young kicker it looks like and he choked on that one it was bad and somebody on that Chargers team I know his fourth down or whatever somebody on that Chargers team
Starting point is 00:43:56 should have told them let them score a touchdown instead of trying to tackle that same inside the ten yard line just let him score at the end of the game get the ball back and that play Doug Peterson had run that almost exact same play against the Chargers earlier in the season
Starting point is 00:44:12 and Benjamin Solik did a good breakdown on Twitter where it's essentially they crash everyone in the middle and they run wide and essentially say ETN versus Asante Samuel in space Asante Samuel can't tackle we will win this every time
Starting point is 00:44:28 and they literally got that exact same matchup again and he ran the Jaguars I just still can't believe Brandon Staley tried to kick that field goal it's crazy he was the guy who was supposed to change everything
Starting point is 00:44:44 and he just turtled and I feel bad for him because he is a really nice guy and he is a defensive guy so like a lot of the blame should be on Joe Lombardi and we should say Justin Herbert wasn't great the fact that the Chargers it was actually a big win for
Starting point is 00:45:00 football like guys like us who still hold on to some meatball takes because the Chargers were up 27-0 they ran 25 passes 7 design runs and the 7 design runs went for 7 yards it's great to like
Starting point is 00:45:16 every now and then be reminded like if you can't run the football you can't win these games because if they could run the football if they could get first downs with running the ball no one comes back from 27-0 guess what RG3 was vindicated you have to be able to have more rushing attempts than your opponent if you want to win in the playoffs
Starting point is 00:45:32 with the Chargers the way that they use their running backs is a little bit different like Eckler he catches passes but that's part of their running game and he's great and Justin Herbert I still think Justin Herbert I would take him probably over almost all the league
Starting point is 00:45:48 except for like 6 or 7 quarterbacks if I were to like start right now with a new team I still think Justin Herbert is an awesome quarterback you have to be able to get a first down you have to that is on him not be able to like just seal this game because
Starting point is 00:46:04 there's a lot of blame to go around most of it I think should go on Lombardi I put like 50% on Lombardi I put like 40% on Staley 9% on Herbert and then 1% on God I was going to say God for creating the Chargers
Starting point is 00:46:20 he knew what he was doing Asante Samuel Jr. might be good I was wrong it was actually very funny that he had 3 interceptions because that was such a throwaway comment on Friday he's not even that good I forgot I had said it and then he got his first interception
Starting point is 00:46:36 I got a few tweets then he got his second and I was just bombarded then he got his third and everyone was like you're the dumbest person alive I was like guess what I am the dumbest person alive that was a throwaway comment I'm stupid that was the first time I was like what the fuck is time doing right now
Starting point is 00:46:52 also Ken Jack who actually was one of the original interns for this show who's a Die Hard Chargers fan I asked him I was like why do I think Asante Samuel Jr. is not that good he's like you probably watched him against Devonte Adams which isn't fair because Devonte Adams is that great but he's like
Starting point is 00:47:08 any really good route runner torches him well he's had some bad games and it's not just Devonte Adams he's not awesome but it's also the dumb brain if I watch one thing happen once I make a decision on that person and that's cemented forever so I hand up
Starting point is 00:47:24 that was stupid he played great I just I still can't believe I can but I just there's so the Chargers so I wrote down I did a quick because we've talked about it before Minnesota when they've had heartbreak
Starting point is 00:47:40 we'll get to you guys Minnesota but the Chargers is a franchise I think because their fan base isn't that vocal and they've been nomads they don't get the credit for being such a tragic tragic franchise but going through it
Starting point is 00:47:56 starting in 2006 you remember the game they played in the playoffs against the Patriots and the Chargers were up with 8 minutes left and Tom Brady threw an interception and then Troy Brown stripped Marlon McCree
Starting point is 00:48:12 and like literally intercepted it game over essentially running down Troy Brown strips him ends with Nate Cading missing a field goal to go to overtime 2007 Phil Rivers tears his ACL I think he missed three field goals so Nate Cading that year
Starting point is 00:48:28 that year he had missed three field goals the entire season and he missed three field goals in that game and there's more Nate Cading coming up 2007 Phil Rivers tears his ACL in the divisional round the Patriots pretty tight I think they lost by like nine or something
Starting point is 00:48:44 but he plays with the torn ACL 2009 was the divisional round 2009-2010 season where they lost 17-14 to the Jets Nate Cading missed a 40 yarder and a 36 yarder 2010 was the year that they had the number one offense
Starting point is 00:49:00 number one defense didn't make the playoffs they moved out of San Diego they should have been in San Diego they don't even they're literally subleasing their home stadium they don't have a home they get cucked every weekend
Starting point is 00:49:16 they had Phil Rivers and Ladinian Tomlinson and they got nothing to show like I feel bad for Chargers fans I do Chargers as a franchise I don't feel bad you make your own luck Chargers fans you don't deserve them you dragged your most die hard
Starting point is 00:49:32 Superfan Boltman in front of a town council meeting and pried away the one thing that he loved so sad the Chargers are a very sad franchise you know what else is sad the fact that we've got an entire department of statistics and people that just do nothing but look up fun stats
Starting point is 00:49:48 not just here at Barstool but also all across all the football watching channels and nobody thought to tell us that Trevor Lawrence had never lost a football game on a Saturday what the fuck how did we miss that
Starting point is 00:50:04 high school NFL last week he won on a Saturday because in college he lost the championship games he has never lost a football game on a Saturday it's crazy
Starting point is 00:50:20 let's talk about we've buried the Chargers this one was kind of depressing Brandon Staley this week he tried to motivate the guys try to get the Charger out of them he showed them a picture of the late 90's bulls all wearing
Starting point is 00:50:36 the same sneakers and he told everyone they had to wear black cleats on Saturday nights so they were as one a team as one and they really like went out there so yeah I don't that's the depths of the Charger hell that you're like
Starting point is 00:50:52 90's bulls we gotta do what they do and maybe we'll get out of whatever this hell we live in so I've got an idea for the Chargers to fix the issue of being the Chargers it's going to take something more than just the shoes you have to let them wear
Starting point is 00:51:08 a completely different uniform underneath their Chargers uniform like Mighty Docks? you have to let them get well I'm sure Kedell would have a word about you only get a certain number of color combinations you can wear but let them put on I don't know
Starting point is 00:51:24 like Patriots or Ram's clothes underneath their Chargers uniform we don't have to see it on TV just so that they know it's under there so it's like listen this uniform isn't who you are it's just a piece of clothing that's on the outside you can be whoever you want they need a witch doctor
Starting point is 00:51:40 they need a witch doctor to show up to their facility to start training camp next year and like do a seance and and do the smoke and like heal all of them because I don't think it's I don't think there's anything that's going to change I think Justin Herbert's a franchise quarterback I do think that he deserves some blame for Saturday night
Starting point is 00:51:56 and shout out to Manu Wacho for being the weirdest dude on Twitter for like just hammering him it's like the guy's very good he could have played better but they need everything to change because they have they had Phil Rivers and now they have what seems like
Starting point is 00:52:12 another guy who should be there for 15 years and win them a lot of football games but as it currently states they're never winning anything of consequence they seem like the most talented team that's always got like a whip it's a combination of being cursed truly truly cursed by God
Starting point is 00:52:28 and also they've got a whiff of candy assness about them what they need is an interim coach they need an interim coach they need coach O to come in for a season just whoop the shit out of them bury all the old charges uniforms underneath the soil
Starting point is 00:52:44 like let them wear LSU shit underneath the charges whatever it takes they need just the complete opposite of Brandon Saley for a season I'm gonna chew your ass out we're gonna be tough we'll probably lose a bunch of games because I'm such a tough coach and I don't give a shit about analytics
Starting point is 00:53:00 but guess what by playoff time you might be ready to win one and also for the love of God do not ever play against Trevor Lawrence on a Saturday do you think Brandon Saley's gonna get fired? I would personally would I personally fire him? yeah you better believe I would arrest him
Starting point is 00:53:16 well it's funny because he was kind of weirdly on the hot seat he went on that run in December where they got into the playoffs and then he immediately had maybe the worst back to back weeks you could ever have as a head coach he played all the starters in week 18
Starting point is 00:53:32 and lost one of his best players to injury and then he in the playoffs he lost a 27 nothing lead and a plus 5 turnover like who has had a worst back to back weeks you can't have a you can't have a worse coaching
Starting point is 00:53:48 back to back weeks than what Brandon Saley just did yeah so I don't know what they're gonna do because the Spandos are very strange owners they fired Marty Schottenheimer after he went 15 and 1 replaced him with Norv Turner they don't like to spend a lot of money they're very
Starting point is 00:54:04 they're clear about that they don't have a stadium I would personally fire Brandon Saley if you thought that you had a shot at getting Sean Payton because I feel like Sean Payton could fix what's wrong with him he's got a little bit of that old school like he's gonna come in and put mouse traps and shit in your lockers
Starting point is 00:54:20 yeah no if you gonna make you watch videos of rats getting electrocuted before games it's tough on you up like that's got you need a little bit of that stupid like like meathead old school football coach if you can't I think you got to just fire Joe Lombardi and hope something changes
Starting point is 00:54:36 which it won't or just fire just go without a coach just be like cream to the top so whoever feels like they want to coach the team it's gonna be like lord of the flies next yeah let bossa coach oh yeah that was actually an all-time moment when this way when boss when bossa
Starting point is 00:54:52 threw his helmet down and then Lombardi or sorry staley picked his helmet up and handed it back to bossa and bossa was like oh thanks coach and just threw it again yeah it was like what who's the head coach here yeah um I officially now and I'm a
Starting point is 00:55:08 Nick bossa guy yeah I'm done I'm done with that entire franchise I don't I'm serious about I'm gonna try to not say the word chargers yeah the C words they're the C words all right so I'm gonna put 20 bucks in the free parking lottery ball thing every time I say it you guys are all
Starting point is 00:55:24 welcome to join me if you want all right so let's let's talk about the winning team here because they deserve a lot of credit uh Trevor Lawrence could not have been worse to start the game like I said four for 16 30 yards four interceptions he then from that point forward went 24 for 31 258
Starting point is 00:55:40 four touchdowns it was insane how well he played after that start because I think we all were sitting there being like is he gonna go full peter man like he they were bad interceptions I don't think Nathan peter man ever threw four and a quarter did he was the fourth in the
Starting point is 00:55:56 second quarter because I was just looking at the five and first half yeah five and first half that's all I know that's what I was thinking but now you kept thinking like oh it's not gonna get any worse yeah just kept getting worse and worse and and and Doug Peterson is just a really fucking good head coach and he did he did get
Starting point is 00:56:12 a little too we said it in Friday show like the one thing about Doug Peterson is he gets like a itchy trick trigger finger where he's like I gotta do something crazy he did it at the beginning of the game when he went for it on that uh was it a fourth down he did that weird play and it was like what are you doing
Starting point is 00:56:28 oh he could have gotten a field goal they could have got a field goal I think it was and you're like Doug what are you doing but then he made up for it with the two point conversion and also like sometimes football feels simple and the Jaguar's coming out of half and just being
Starting point is 00:56:44 like hey the Chargers are just killing Trevor Lawrence why don't we run tempo and why don't we just go hurry up and they did that and Trevor Lawrence was awesome and Doug Peterson deserves all the credit in the world for we should have like we should have known going to this game like Doug Peterson's
Starting point is 00:57:00 gonna out coach Brandon Staley of course he is also it shot up the entire city of Jacksonville I don't think that they left the stadium no I think they stuck around other cities other bad sports towns would have would have jetted out of there but it looked like the stadium was full the second half they stuck by their team I think
Starting point is 00:57:16 there's something to be said for a team that's been so bad for so long they just wanted to like take in a playoff experience because you never know when you're going to get to see it again and they got rewarded big time sticking around that pool oh my god imagine the body fluids that were floating around that pool by the end of the game
Starting point is 00:57:32 we started it was 40 degrees it was only 40 degrees we had the guy in the gym mask that was the saddest thing we could ever do and they had a pregame part of my cheese stick tailgate that pool went from being filled like halfway with tears and blood in the first half to blood and come
Starting point is 00:57:48 at the end of the second half and I'm not ruling out the Jaguars versus the Chiefs I know that they're gonna have to like if Trevor Lawrence throws four interceptions to start the game the Chiefs will win the game like Chiefs will not give up a 27 nothing lead wait but it's on a Saturday it is on a Saturday
Starting point is 00:58:04 Trevor Lawrence lost the game on a Saturday they played I think the Jaguars lost by maybe 13 or something they played right before the Jaguars had turned the corner and the Chiefs are way better so like if you play the game 100 times the Chiefs probably win 80 times but Doug Peterson
Starting point is 00:58:20 Trevor Lawrence if he's clicking something about like one of those young teams like we don't know what we shouldn't know and we're just maybe we'll just go into Kansas City and win this and the Jaguars wouldn't be perfect Jaguars history where it feels like the Jaguars are the opposite where
Starting point is 00:58:36 of the Chargers they just go from stretches of being the worst franchise in NFL to then having many like bumps where their teams just go far exceed expectations and it's fun this is right when like Borders went up to Pittsburgh and beat Big Ben
Starting point is 00:58:52 it goes all the way back to Mark Brunel beating John Elway in mile high remember that like that's very yep that was supposed to be John Elway's first Super Bowl so that's the Jaguars have like if you know Jaguars history don't be surprised if they find a way to beat the Chiefs on Saturday and it's on Saturday
Starting point is 00:59:08 that's the most important stat yeah Josh Allen is awesome yeah the other one the other one but all if your name is Josh Allen you're very good at football yeah the Jaguars defense like came alive like hey hey where you're about to say about were you gonna call him a good sports town yeah I mean I thought you know it's sticking
Starting point is 00:59:24 out in the cold weather was impressive I was also wrong about Trevor Lawrence so I'll just get in front of that yeah you were right though for a while I was right in the first I was at the end of the Titans game I saw what I saw he didn't look good I was proven right in the first half but now that he's done it never again
Starting point is 00:59:40 he's proved himself in the playoffs in my eyes that's similar to the Brock party and he's good to throw four interceptions and be able to come back from that is insane like mentally I would just crumble I'd just be a puddle crying on the sidelines I do think that it was helpful that it was interception interception interception and it
Starting point is 00:59:56 wasn't like interception drive interception he just got him all the way quick that's basically equivalent to one interception yeah yeah it's true it's one big interception yeah it's all one song it was just one big jam of like jam band jam of interceptions
Starting point is 01:00:12 yeah take those three drives out of the mix not that bad of a game not that bad of a half I actually can't know like we talked about in the beginning you all you know took in every moment of every game I actually can't remember the actual like interceptions they all just blended together
Starting point is 01:00:28 and it's also just like such a concentrated period of time where it's like okay that was a bad 30 minutes as opposed to if you spread all those out throughout a game then you're like oh man that's a bad three hours I did think they were fucked when the punt went off the Jaguars
Starting point is 01:00:44 players helmet that was the most unlucky until they didn't score a touchdown yeah because the Chargers had the shortest fields possible felt like the entire first half and they should have put them away and the Jaguars deserve all the credit for coming back if you're the Jaguars you know that no matter how
Starting point is 01:01:00 bad things get in Kansas City you've come down you've come back from worse probably I don't know if they're gonna get out to like a 27 nothing start that's pretty bad you can't get off to a worse start against the Chiefs than you did against the Chargers so it's like you've seen
Starting point is 01:01:16 all that the world has to throw at you before now you might not win the game but going into it you don't know that you're gonna lose it right the only difference being that the Chargers there had to be someone in the locker room at halftime who was like guys this is a Chargers like they're destined to blow this game
Starting point is 01:01:32 I don't know if you can say that for the Chiefs probably not the Dougie P Max you were saying Dougie P will get them coached up you love that guy of course everyone you couldn't have driven them out of town you could make that argument for sure
Starting point is 01:01:50 but you know he's doing well Eagles are doing well it's kind of a mutual respect I believe who would you say won the divorce Jacksonville or the Eagles there's no winner there's sometimes there's two winners there's always a winner
Starting point is 01:02:06 you split ways and you both are very happy and you live the rest of your life happy talking about the other party more who's looking at the other person since the grand war him looking at us I'm gonna say right now Doug Peterson
Starting point is 01:02:24 has not coached his last game for the Philadelphia Eagles you're gonna bring him back I think they can bring him back isn't that wouldn't that be perfect I feel like Doug has fully embraced his Floridaness
Starting point is 01:02:40 I feel like you get an old person down in Florida for like four days in the middle of wintertime somebody from the northeast and they're like well I'm just not gonna move back you guys can come visit me down here now I'll be playing Knastin Shuffleboard it always freaks me out when he takes off his visor
Starting point is 01:02:56 for like the national anthem they show him like whoa what is that he looks like the mop he looks like the visor that has the fake hair yeah right exactly in the gas station so Jaguar shout out Duvall shout out Chaps Dugs that was an all-time night
Starting point is 01:03:12 they deserved it Trevor Lawrence you've gained Hank's eternal respect that's a big that's a big time thing he doesn't give that easily I'm still trying to get it he's gotta cut his hair before he wants to win a Super Bowl but besides that
Starting point is 01:03:28 when they start playing the Super Bowl on a Saturday like they should then I will start betting on the Jaguars to win it all also one last time fuck you C words yeah C words also he went to Waffle House after even more respect
Starting point is 01:03:44 Waffle House is maybe as far as like per dollar goes Waffle House is the finest dining experience that you can have in the world and also Trevor Lawrence someday hopefully he's on this show I just have like a million questions about his brother that is still one of the most fascinating things if you haven't seen his brother looks exactly like him
Starting point is 01:04:00 and he's like a kind of a very successful artist it's complete different brain seems like a very chill guy but it's crazy to think one guy's an NFL stud and the other guy's a very successful artist
Starting point is 01:04:16 how does one family have that much success the brother seems like he would absolutely hate Davos winning but loves Doug Peterson they get along I bet that Urban Meyer too laid the roots
Starting point is 01:04:32 a lot of the nucleus that we see down there in Jacksonville right now we should give him credit they should have him come out and do something what do you do in Jacksonville before the game starts you get a guitar he'd come out and just strum that G string yes yes
Starting point is 01:04:48 and also shout out Tony Kahn because if the Jaguar somehow gets to the Super Bowl you're gonna let us go and be on the sideline sweet in the second half can't believe what Vince is doing with the Saudis you would never Tony you know before we get to Sunday's games
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Starting point is 01:07:28 and get ready for the PMT cart on instacart okay Sunday afternoon one o'clock Bills 34 Dolphins 31 the bills
Starting point is 01:07:44 flirted with disaster disaster crazy it looked like Skyler Thompson was going to go into Buffalo and beat the bills it was crazy because the game started it was 17 nothing before you blinked
Starting point is 01:08:00 I think the bills scored their first I think they were up 14 nothing in the first 7 minutes and everyone had the same thought everywhere in America this game's a snoozer this is the one game we can all just like alright let's get to vikings giants and then weird shit started happening
Starting point is 01:08:16 and the bills started turning the ball over and the dolphins hung around and hung around and hung around and the next thing you know it's 34 31 and the dolphins have the ball and a chance to tie or win the game and you're like how the hell did we get here I don't
Starting point is 01:08:32 I don't know what to explain I don't know if it's a don't over yeah or like don't overreact because the bills might have overlooked them a little bit even though you shouldn't do that in the playoffs or the clinic time bills because Skyler Thompson looked pretty good and the thing that has
Starting point is 01:08:48 kind of plagued them all year is turnovers did you know that the Texans and Colts are the only two teams that have more turnovers and they played an extra game I mean right from the very beginning when Josh Allen had that first scramble and then at the end he mashed all the buttons at the end of the play like he does
Starting point is 01:09:04 and his both his hands flailed out and the ball trickled forward like six yards you knew that it was going to be that kind of a day for Josh which is fine you get good Josh and bad Josh and usually good Josh wins that fight in straight sets but he will turn the ball over sometimes you have to
Starting point is 01:09:20 be ready for that I think what we're looking at in this is like we're we're saying yes Skyler Thompson almost beat the bills and we're looking down our noses at Skyler Thompson because his name is Skyler yeah and so it's like wait he's not supposed to you can't get beat by a Skyler in the playoffs
Starting point is 01:09:36 Kansas State too and in reality if you watch how Skyler Thompson played today I actually think he looked really good not because of anything that the bills were doing defensively I think that Skyler Thompson just might be a lot better than we thought that he was going to be yeah and it's the fact that he's a third string
Starting point is 01:09:52 quarterback makes people be like oh his name's Skyler he went to Kansas State where they let anybody in with a hole in a heartbeat and he's a third stringer he's a third stringer their acceptance rate is like 99.9999 but EMA you guys say EMA after that
Starting point is 01:10:08 every man a wildcat shout out Bill Snyder but um he's just he's not as bad as a third stringer named Skyler would lead you to believe yeah I mean he wasn't not bad and he wasn't great he just we expected so little and he was better
Starting point is 01:10:24 than the little we expected and I do so this is the Bengals game and the bills game like you can look at it I think they're a little bit different and when we get to the Bengals game I'll explain why I think the Bengals you know when was a little bit different than the bills the bills did dominate this game
Starting point is 01:10:40 they had bad turnovers like they the fumble for a touchdown obviously was huge to start the second half and they also got stuck in a lot of spots where as like it felt like they were just trying to take shot plays and it just
Starting point is 01:10:56 like first down shot play like second down like try to run a little bit and they they just I don't know the bills offense never felt like it was clicking after the first two drives where they did score touchdowns and they just let them hang around hang around like the bills dominate the game in terms of yardage
Starting point is 01:11:12 and moving the ball it's just those that's why you love the NFL playoffs because it's a single elimination and a team can have a bad day and I don't know if we just say okay survive in advance bills are okay survive in advance or you're like hey bills if you play like that against the Bengals
Starting point is 01:11:28 or the Chiefs or the Jaguars you're done like you're done so offensively I think this is what you were talking about in the second half their offense became like okay let's put Josh in shotgun we'll run an occasional design run for him but our passing game is going to be
Starting point is 01:11:44 Josh you take like five step drop and then you need to spin out of the pocket then you need to direct somebody downfield to run further downfield and then just throw it as far as you can and that I mean sometimes you get some awesome like 70 yard touchdown passes from
Starting point is 01:12:00 Josh Allen but that was the entirety of their offense for the second half and it feels like and bills fans can tell us we're way wrong we obviously love Josh Allen and we root for the bills but and we're biased but it does feel at times like the bills don't have like many
Starting point is 01:12:16 five to six yard plays do you know what I mean they don't have it never feels like Cole Beasley that's why they got him back but it doesn't feel like they can just methodically move down the field and sustain drives it feels like they're either going to hit a home run
Starting point is 01:12:32 or they're going to be in third and long and Josh has to do something incredible so I don't I don't know what that is I don't know Cole's their move the chains guy I think they're working him back into the offense and so they're going to have him do those little like West Welker like stick routes and that's how he scored a touchdown
Starting point is 01:12:48 today was on one of those he actually like I think he's a big addition for the team people like laugh and make jokes about Cole Beasley but I actually think that he makes this offense he he should once he starts practicing more and becomes more part of the team he does like serve a very valuable
Starting point is 01:13:04 role which is make turn the offense into like a possession offense right because it does it does you know what I'm saying like it doesn't and it should be that they should be able to get stuff underneath a little bit easier because teams you would think would would would given Josh's arm
Starting point is 01:13:20 and also their receivers would try to keep stuff in front of them and not like you know play play a lot of too high safety and be like hey we're going to let you go down the field and beat us underneath because we don't want to get burned but it just seems like they either go down with a huge
Starting point is 01:13:36 home run play or it's a punt and I don't know I mean their run game has gotten better so I'm saying all this you won the game so it really is nitpicking like the playoffs I am a big believer like the playoffs you shouldn't you shouldn't worry
Starting point is 01:13:52 about how you win the game you should just win the game you know I mean like a three-point game a winning a game by three points even though you're a two-touch sound favorite does not matter you just survive in advance and next week is a completely different game I'm just worried I'm just a little worried yeah can't turn
Starting point is 01:14:08 the ball over like I do I think I wouldn't say that this is like an example of a reason to believe that the sky is falling no no no I think I think the bills can still like beat any team in the absolutely so but you can't get off you can't like fall asleep at the wheel like you did today
Starting point is 01:14:24 yes it's basically the bills that I think they would probably admit this they played like a B minus game yeah and beat the chiefs in the Bengals you have to be B plus A minus or better also don't wear the all blue uniforms anymore yeah those are bad yeah I think we can all agree on that too most bills fans probably agree with me
Starting point is 01:14:40 the blueberry look not great in fact I'd like to see the bills bring back the red helmets like the old school yeah like 80s 90s style helmets I do you think that there was any overlooking Scott not you don't overlook a playoff game but it did feel like at times and it was
Starting point is 01:14:56 also on the we were harping on the bills offense and I have ultimate trust in Josh Allen so I'm not like that worried the bills defense there were some times where it was like wait what's going on here like why is why are the dolphins maybe because they're just they have such great receivers
Starting point is 01:15:12 it's bad drops and they had some really bad drops the bills actually looking back on it yes knowing that it was a 34-31 win and all the drops that they had the dolphins could easily won this game I do think that there's we're looking at Skyler Thompson being like how could you let Skyler Thompson beat you almost right he wasn't
Starting point is 01:15:28 that bad no and because we saw him against the Jets and it looks hard right like I'm talking about like today's yeah right now Thompson today probably played at maybe the peak of his abilities yeah but he was good he was good definitely good enough to win also nice they always throw in the story when it's
Starting point is 01:15:44 like you're you're not only rooting for a team like we're rooting for the bills because we love Josh but like I also bet on the bills and then they just fucking slip in that that quick you know like Skyler Thompson has been through a lot his mom died from cancer when he was a kid his dad
Starting point is 01:16:00 drove like 20 hours to get to this games like fuck now I feel like now I can't call him a bum yeah now I feel like a fucking dickhead his dad always do that yeah I by the way I want one quarterback to go out there for his first start and the announcer is like nobody gives a fuck
Starting point is 01:16:16 about this piece yeah right like this guy is a bum fuck this guy we should we totally fucked up because we got so ramped up talking about the C words Al Michaels it's done okay I'm gonna stand up for Al Michaels it's done wait wait Tony Dungey
Starting point is 01:16:32 Al Michaels I still think is fine he's good with with Herbie in the booth either he had a giant meal at halftime and he had the it is for the second half but I think I think the more likely culprit is that Tony Dungey is the biggest energy
Starting point is 01:16:48 vampire in the world as well as probably being an actual vampire but such such a mood killer it was hard to listen to a thrilling game and I know that people like why you care about the broadcasters well they're part of the game and
Starting point is 01:17:04 they do like Mike Tariqo on Sunday night was awesome that that Sam Hubbard fumble recovery he hit the perfect note of excitement of like what the fuck is going on Al Michaels is calling an unbelievable comeback
Starting point is 01:17:20 and it was just I was falling asleep listening to it it was the Trevor Lawrence two-point conversion is where it really came to a hat where it was like and they score yeah and he gets the two and Dungey was like that's a solid play that you drew you can see him reach over here
Starting point is 01:17:36 Jake thoughts on that and then we'll get back to this game because we did miss that we should have talked about that yeah there was a lot of criticism worldwide on that yeah I hate I hate it because I love Al Michaels he's a fucking he's a legend yeah but it was tough what do you think
Starting point is 01:17:52 Jake not worldwide I want to know what Jake thinks and I want you to be as critical as you can be knowing that's not at all tough spot yeah I mean like come on just say it just say it and it was boring Tony Dungey in a playoff game there's such thing as being too over the top so
Starting point is 01:18:08 I think there was no ceiling here and he didn't even he was crawling on the ground right he was Leo in Wolf of Wall Street getting out of his car that was some of the feedback I got on the bowl game like since it's a bowl game you kind of have a little more of a leash to get excited yeah because it's a big game
Starting point is 01:18:24 yeah yeah of course but yeah Tony it was bad just Jake wants to say it was bad I say it was bad we never I hear a game like that and really whenever I just hear Tony I always wonder like why rock hard
Starting point is 01:18:40 a good coach yeah how could anybody want to run through a brick wall for Tony Dungey it just scheme he doesn't have any he couldn't win in the playoffs also I will say Tony Dungey doesn't usually call games he's usually in the studio yes oh you also had paint manning that's
Starting point is 01:18:56 probably why yeah it's true but like whenever I see Tony Dungey I'm like why how is this guy a successful NFL coach he seems like Joe Philbin without a pulse yeah he's the guy that if you like have to go on a double date and Tony Dungey's there you're like we can't hang out
Starting point is 01:19:12 with that couple anymore no I don't want to it's painful to go to dinner with them that's who Tony Dungey he seems like he actually strikes me as a ghost yeah I think he might be a ghost his ghost like he's yeah I mean his Wikipedia picture is is alarming is it the vampire one yeah yeah he's a bit he's either a vampire
Starting point is 01:19:28 or a ghost he's it was so bad maybe both it was so bad I have a note Segway to bring us back to Dolphin's game if you want okay that'd be great thank you Hank Mike McDaniel on the sideline obviously nicotine and sports go hand in hand like baseball players
Starting point is 01:19:44 packing dips Jim Leland smoking Siggs in the dugout you know old coaches used to smoke Siggs on the sidelines I understand that nicotine and sports go hand in hand coaches players it's part of the game yeah LeBron he puts Zinn pouches up his butt Mike McDaniel
Starting point is 01:20:00 was vaping on the sideline yeah you can't vape well no no you can like that's the part where I said this online and people were like dude everyone takes nicotine you just can't have like a fucking
Starting point is 01:20:16 imagine like I'm fine with the act of participating with nicotine during a game it just can't be a vape the rules different than hey it's called Don Julio hold on I think you can
Starting point is 01:20:32 if you spent the entire day struggling to get to play in on time then you can't not sometimes you got to hit the vape the Dolphins I've never seen a team flirt with delay of games more than the Dolphins I think they had four
Starting point is 01:20:48 pre snap offside penalties and then two delay games like it was every single play and when it happens that often because sometimes you'd be like oh well they're just trying you know they're the underdog they're trying to bleed the clock no no the plays weren't getting in on time it was very
Starting point is 01:21:04 clear not only did they have so many delay of game penalties but they had what I have to believe is the single worst postseason delay of game penalty in terms of logistics yeah of all time on that fourth down he said they didn't break the huddle until there were what four seconds left and they had extra time they got
Starting point is 01:21:20 time because of an injury right so they were they were huddling up and staying standing in the huddle because I think that this is something that he had planned out and timed out okay if the play clocks at a certain amount of time we can huddle up and then sprint to the line and still be able to get the snap off but they didn't break
Starting point is 01:21:36 the huddle until four seconds left of course they're going to get a delay of game on it every time I think I think Mike McDaniel I don't think that was nicotine I think I think he's vaping hashish so yeah maybe I'm just naive because I don't really know what these things look like are we sure he's not just blowing in to make it warmer
Starting point is 01:21:52 there's no look you can see it right Jake I think we need to we need to have you vape just so that you you can he uh knowledgeable about these things that fourth and what he said afterwards that he he someone had told him he got a first down that might have just been he was so high that he was just like thinking
Starting point is 01:22:08 he got a first down because I don't I don't remember being like that was a first down it was the most important play of the game right and he was like well we had a play we put in our personnel thing he was a first down and then they said it was fourth down it's like okay I it was all game zero yards on 31 it was all game all game they had trouble
Starting point is 01:22:24 getting the play in and I don't know like Mike McDaniel was a success as a first year head coach I actually I I respect Mike McDaniel yeah yeah like he he got them to the playoffs don't vape he dealt with a lot of injuries a lot of weird adversity but that's something like you have a
Starting point is 01:22:40 rookie quarterback who's starting his second game and you can't get the play in time to him yes tough that was very tough I disagree with that I think he should just for aesthetic reasons not for like don't vape he was just don't don't hit the jewel if you're going to vape
Starting point is 01:22:56 vape hard like go all out have a rig have have something attached to your to your chest like Bruce Arians did with his communication thing have like a big rig of just nothing but vape strapped on your person and then blow amazing clouds or have someone holding
Starting point is 01:23:12 the vape for you and then you go and like pretend to like tell them something and you just they're holding it and you just hit the vape or have a guy like behind you holding a hookah yeah and you're just smoking a hookah on the satellite so be chill yeah so dolphins I yeah I mean they you have to say this is a successful
Starting point is 01:23:28 season right Jake like overall yeah I mean given where we were at eight and three it's disappointing but at the beginning of the season this was do or die for two and company obviously the injuries have some asterisks but yeah I mean a playoff would have been nice I don't I've never seen one
Starting point is 01:23:44 like I've seen I've been alive but I don't remember seeing one so yeah it's tough because it felt yeah yeah that's the thing going into today I had no hope but the fact that I was like damn they actually had a shot to in this game it's crazy right and I think that if you
Starting point is 01:24:00 took out the fact that we all are so used to the bills like making incredible plays big touchdowns and that they were two touchdown favorites if you just watch that game just like totally neutral didn't know anything about them you come away being like the dolphins could
Starting point is 01:24:16 have easily won that game yeah they could have easily won that game and they and the bills survived and that's all that matters they got to play better and we get our bills Bengals matchup which I think it's America America's finally ready to see that game now you bring tomorrow Hamlin pregame yes this is
Starting point is 01:24:32 this is when you do there was some speculation before the game that this was going to be tomorrow game where he would be on the field like announcing them yeah it's up to the fans tomorrow said he was going to stay at home and focus on his recovery first I think that was very smart by tomorrow and the bills take care well tomorrow it's very smart
Starting point is 01:24:48 of you to stay home take care of your health make sure that you're feeling fine so that you can get out there and just scream your fucking head off next week yes as the team storming onto the field facts all right before we get to the next game let's do a quick ad because we got a we got a reset
Starting point is 01:25:04 before the next game we have a lot to talk about the next game we do have a lot to talk about a lot to talk about the next game I'm excited for bills bangles very excited Sunday night and before we get to this next game I want to talk to you about our great friends over game time
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Starting point is 01:27:30 want to say we told you so I don't either but we told you so I don't I don't feel like taking a victory lap on this I don't feel like pointing out that the Minnesota Vikings finished their season with a point differential that puts them in negative point
Starting point is 01:27:46 territory we've talked about all this stuff I don't think that we need to rehash the fact that we've said over the course of the entire season that Kirk Cousins is a perfectly fine nice human being and when it comes down to it in crunch time sometimes is afraid to make
Starting point is 01:28:02 a dicey throw and we'll take a safer option that might result in a completion but it's ultimately not going to win you an important game I don't think that we need to rehash any of that wait are you talking about fourth and eight with the season on the line and you need a first down and you go with the four yard check down
Starting point is 01:28:18 it was actually the perfect Kirk Cousins into the game ever because on the stat sheet it's going to show yeah and on the stat sheet that one play is going to show successful completed pass for what like a three yard game something like that and in reality it's like
Starting point is 01:28:34 hey dude you have Justin Jefferson he might he might be double teamed but fucking he's down there somewhere hey just throw past past the first down line just throw anywhere past the first down line if it's incomplete at least you tried to get a first down instead of checking
Starting point is 01:28:50 it down thinking you have five downs that was actually that was better and we were more right than him throwing interception on that last drive him throwing a check down perfect that was four yard short and Kirk Cousins was not
Starting point is 01:29:06 the problem today I mean besides the check down the Vikings defense as we've said all along they were going to kill their season and they killed their season the Giants did anything they wanted Daniel Jones was sensational like
Starting point is 01:29:22 he was the best quarterback this weekend he was the best quarterback this weekend because you have to count Brock Purdy start to his game yeah Trevor Lawrence through four interceptions Justin Herbert struggled a little Josh Allen was good but he had a couple turnovers it wasn't spectacular
Starting point is 01:29:38 Tyler Huntley wasn't Daniel Jones was the best quarterback this weekend I don't think it's actually close he was so fucking good he moved the ball whenever they had to he made big plays whenever they had to he made big runs when they had to he was like patient with his runs
Starting point is 01:29:54 letting his blocks get set up Daniel Jones I'm sitting here right now we're sitting here with wildcard weekend five of the six games have been played Daniel Jones was by far and away the best quarterback in terms of play on the field this weekend that's crazy but it's true and I'm very happy for Giants
Starting point is 01:30:10 fans I think that what you've seen with the Giants this season if you're a fan of a loser team you can look at these Giants and be like there's hope for me get the right coach there's hope for me if we if we hit a home run hiring a head coach then we can go from being and like let's be
Starting point is 01:30:26 very clear about what the Giants were last year they were infuriating and boring to watch correct they were a dumb boring team coached by a dumb boring guy remember when they did the QB sneak from like the two-yard line on third and nine because they didn't want to get a safety even just a QB sneak it was like
Starting point is 01:30:42 they were running some sort of single wing offense yeah but just like fell forward for a yard and a half it goes to show and the NFL is such we love it it's such a fascinating league but for every bust
Starting point is 01:30:58 you can point to many people around them that probably failed them because Daniel Jones was not the guy and he was had two different head coaches different offenses not a lot of weapons and then in comes Brian Dable playing to his strengths and he has been
Starting point is 01:31:14 playing out of his mind good and he now should be the quarterback of the future for the Giants I don't even think it's up for debate anymore it's just whether like what the actual monetary like deal with his contracts gonna be he is their quarterback of the future he was so good
Starting point is 01:31:30 and I don't know when he got a jaw and like gain like 15 pounds of muscle but he's fucking hot there was a bonkless I don't care damn Jones is hot there there was he's not a boy anymore he's a man there's one shot of him on the sideline we did look like he looked like a Superman he's a Greek guy he looks like Superman
Starting point is 01:31:46 a little bit yeah I think what's happened a couple things with Daniel Jones one he just kind of found a point in his career that he has a coach who actually cares about him and seems to be aligned with him and now they're running an offense that actually suits what he's very good at doing but most importantly
Starting point is 01:32:02 I think he's had enough time to wash the Duke off of the skin yes and off of his body and he doesn't have that the stink of do smart meanest he doesn't yeah he doesn't have that like the Duke vibe to him necessarily and and the Giants also survived
Starting point is 01:32:18 I mean this game was so much fun to watch it was just back and forth back and forth both quarterbacks played a clean game both teams played a clean game because we were sitting there being like whoever makes a mistake whoever fumbles whoever throws interception it will change the game that's how it felt the Giants
Starting point is 01:32:34 that would have been an all-time loss to have Darius Slayton over the middle just dropping an absolute perfect pass where he would have run easily for first down game over thankfully you had Kirk Cousins checking down and they even tried to give it to the Vikings with
Starting point is 01:32:50 that roughing the passer like that was a bad call the Vikings were driving a little bit but man I again I don't want to say we told you so but we told you so and you know what I think Vikings fans it's been a long season a part of my take and us first Vikings
Starting point is 01:33:06 fans I want to I want to bury the hatchet mostly because we ended up being right like we thought we would be but I want to bury the hatchet because you guys knew deep down that what we knew you also knew yeah so we all were kind of on this and and I I've said it before but I have
Starting point is 01:33:22 a few friends that are diehard Vikings fans and I talked to them after and they're like look we knew that was going to happen but it was still such a fun season and it was like they won some classic games they won the NFC North easily biggest comeback in NFL history biggest comeback
Starting point is 01:33:38 the Bills game like they that was a hell of a ride it just was always going to end like it ended and we saw it coming from a mile away and I think they did too so I'm not I'm not we're not going to do a victory dance like is expected what I will do though I will do a little victory
Starting point is 01:33:54 dance on someone in this room Hank you tried to troll us being like we were being mean to the Vikings and you're like I'm on the Vikings I like the Vikings the Vikings are really good they're 13 and four you bet on them today what do you say about that
Starting point is 01:34:20 you know this is a podcast yeah I mean there was really no excuses they played like shit their defense yeah their offense wasn't yeah they probably should have gotten the ball to Justin Jefferson a little bit more but credit to the Giants defense you know the Giants defense were like we're not going to let Justin Jefferson beat us
Starting point is 01:34:36 we'll just let TJ Hawkinson beat us and he did for a while the Bills game Kirk Cousins was making those throws he had I think they had two or three crazy 4,000 conversions you get that rough in the passer call you should have all the momentum that I thought they were at least going to
Starting point is 01:34:52 have a couple shots of the end zone or something when he just checked down to a tight end and it just kind of all came to fruition of like wow you're wrong this team is a joke this guy is a joke 11-0 in close games and you trolled your way into
Starting point is 01:35:08 but that's just not trolling I legitimately thought it was a real fact-based thought Hank factor fiction you decided to have this fact-based thought because it would do the most damage to us if we lost it not damage I just thought you know I was trying to like protect you guys
Starting point is 01:35:24 from yourselves oh well no we were fine we never were in doubt we never were worried ever it turns out never turns out this is maybe the most right we've ever been on this pie yeah for all the asante Samuel's not that good and then three interceptions in like five minutes this one we were right like we were
Starting point is 01:35:40 painfully right about this I don't I legitimately don't think that I've ever been as right about a take as I have about Kirk Cousins the entire season it up the entire season I'm not going to take a victory lap no we're not taking victory but we're not going to do victory I was so right that
Starting point is 01:35:56 it fucking hurts yeah I actually I said that I was like it's it's I don't take pleasure in being this right because it's almost like weird to be this right because you don't want to be the guy that's this right but we were this right Billy what teams have you ever been positive on either of you great like
Starting point is 01:36:14 today like what what are you chargers I was positive about the chargers sorry to see where else are the hard to hear us talk about how good the Niners are charges I called Brock pretty Kurt Warner I'm just saying $20 for the I don't know if you've been listening it takes it takes
Starting point is 01:36:30 a real man to back a team takes a lot of people right we're talking such a good oh shit I actually forgot the fuck I forgot a stat I thank you all right the Detroit Lions no no the Detroit Lions the bills the 49ers we had nothing but good things to say about the Niners Patrick
Starting point is 01:36:46 Van Wagon bills boys by far the best okay do you listen to show Billy now you're back on your troll shit I actually have a staff for you I completely forgot to bring it up because we were so worked up about the C words and I'd really hate to derail this off of the Vikings and us being so right
Starting point is 01:37:02 do you know that in in 2020 the 2020 season the Jets were 0 in 13 yeah and then they went and they won as 17 point underdogs against the Rams and then they beat the Browns and then they got the second pick
Starting point is 01:37:18 and drafted Zach Wilson and not Trevor Lawrence yes oh yes they won two meaningless games in December and they so that's what I forgot to tell you that that was a good one there's actually a fourth down conversion yeah games that just was like
Starting point is 01:37:34 the whole history yeah like Trevor Lawrence could be a jet sliding doors moment yeah and they'd be in the playoffs right but you think Trevor Lawrence could handle the New York media how's that project coming were you guys going after Dable was that was he a jet in contention for the Jets job
Starting point is 01:37:50 uh no not at the time no because they hired him this year wait but they might have interviewed him I don't know it might have been black Brian yeah we get those confused so yeah Billy I forgot
Starting point is 01:38:06 to bring that up that is the difference between the first and second pick back to Hank being wrong and us being right Hank I also would say I would also say like you know the Vikings that was kind of a regular season thing for me I kind of moved on
Starting point is 01:38:22 the Cowboys I have put one future in for one team in the playoffs it was not the Vikings if it's the Cowboys I might have to just mute myself for the rest of the season no if the Bucks win tomorrow night you've been wrong about everything right I'll just go mute I'll be muted
Starting point is 01:38:38 which part of the Vikings were you wrongest about was it Kirk Cousins or was it a defense not that we're dancing on your grave or taking a victory lap or was it us being right and you thinking we were wrong it was Kirk Cousins and it was you guys being right and thinking you were wrong yeah do you think maybe they
Starting point is 01:38:56 it's kind of just like bet yeah it's like fade the public you guys were you know a couple of public squares looking at me right in the face no you were actually the public square you bet on the Vikings you should have gotten Kirk Cousins more involved in their downfield passing attack and maybe look for them on like I don't know like some out routes
Starting point is 01:39:12 or some deep corners as opposed to just hitting them in the flat for a negative one yard completion yeah yeah yeah that was the funniest play that was the funniest play the entire game Billy I think we were positive about a lot of teams I still think you've been listening to the podcast today I've been listening to the Vikings
Starting point is 01:39:28 yeah the Vikings we were negative about but you know what next season if they find a new quarterback it's totally different they have so much talent they're a really good their offense is so fucking loaded but here's the thing Derek Carr Lamar Jackson liked to tweet
Starting point is 01:39:44 they're not going to find another quote Lamar Jackson liked to tweet saying talking about Lamar Jackson going to the Jets but then he unliked the tweet but the screen shot shows that he did like that tweet at one point tonight when he wasn't at the game tonight oh okay nice that's nice hmm how's that was that do the Vikings
Starting point is 01:40:00 well you're talking about the quarter okay yeah I mean we're I think we're we're positive about a lot of teams but the Vikings we were right about you think Daniel actually we were positive about the Vikings because we were right so that's in the positive but the point like the point differential on the all those Vikings games wasn't
Starting point is 01:40:16 as bad as like dolphins they were 13 and 4 that's the difference is that there were expectations on the bike right I know they were 13 and 4 also shout out to Minnesota you won that division ease anders fly forever also you've got Carlos Correa so
Starting point is 01:40:32 congratulations yeah I I hate being this right PFT it's uncomfortable let's go back to being wrong let's go back to being wrong all right tonight bucks you oh you're we're gonna be wrong about the box this has become like a
Starting point is 01:40:48 reputation for you know I mean it was like the Vikings was like a appetizer did it all just send it back I've had to court yeah I've ordered two meals yeah one of them was one of them was one of them was yeah Jake I've got Jake Marsha my stomach and now I have the Cowboys for the
Starting point is 01:41:04 main course did it all just start based on us saying that the Cowboys stunk until you're like hmm yeah no I know what I can say that that will shock everybody yeah I think the Cowboys are good is that how it all started or was there some no you went you just went again you walked me back
Starting point is 01:41:20 to the start the Cowboys the Cowboys one is probably more to that point the Vikings the bills game was an eye opener in what way it was an eye-opening fantastic win it was it was throwing dimes it was they were they beat the best team in the NFL basically you know what it was my mind
Starting point is 01:41:36 just went from the white Kirk Cousins to the black Kirk Cousins you just hopping around yeah so it's the white Kirk Cousins and the wait the black Kirk Cousins and the white Dak Prescott yeah you're rooting for the same quarterback
Starting point is 01:41:52 against somebody else but yeah I mean if the Cowboys lose tonight you're not gonna hear much from me no we'll be here a lot we'll be interviewing you I'll be takeless in Seattle no you'll move on you'll probably like hate the
Starting point is 01:42:08 bills next yes you will yeah you will yeah you're gonna hate the bills you just laid the seed being like bandwagon yeah you're gonna hate the bills you already hate the bills yeah you do you hate Josh Allen you've never liked the bills you he dragged you kicking and this is gas
Starting point is 01:42:24 literally putting words my mouth no Hank factor fiction the Patriots play in the AFC East fact okay factor fiction the bills are your rival fiction okay because you don't think they're good enough to be rival that is also part of the Vikings the perfect storm
Starting point is 01:42:40 PFT has his own history Kirk Cousins I don't like the vikings is up playing the same division like why I like the lions right now but the lions next year when they're good I'm not gonna like them and I've always said Josh Allen since I Josh Allen you guys kind of like poking fun of him and him coming to the podcast doing the
Starting point is 01:42:56 interview was we'll always have utmost respect in my eyes before he could have been the worst quarterback in the league I would have been like I like Josh out a lot great dude so I'm happy that he's successful he's the best dude I hope they do well I wrote down a couple nice things about Minnesota okay
Starting point is 01:43:12 in Minnesota you have the most lakes I asked the United States I've spent some time we love lakes yeah I spent some time in the Minnesota lakes it is beautiful in the summer in Minnesota is actually a delight you have a wonderful state fair that we've been to
Starting point is 01:43:28 been to with butter sculptures make butter sculptures you have not as many mosquitoes as in some parts of Brazil yep for the most part you guys are not that infested with malaria the Edmund Fitzgerald probably had it coming
Starting point is 01:43:44 and you have Carlos Correa that's really the old thing I keep going back to and I've always said that Minneapolis is a very nice city every time I've spent I don't know probably like five or six different times I've been there and I've enjoyed it every single time it's a very very nice city
Starting point is 01:44:00 had a lot of fun times memories there St. Paul as well St. Paul is nice oh I love the juicy Lucy those are delicious the wings we got you were in Thailand I was doing MDMA in Hong Kong St. Paul and I went to a great wings place that was awesome
Starting point is 01:44:16 the Final Four was great there Minnesota is very affordable yep it's an affordable state you also have a very good head coach yes although I don't know what was that third and one play in the first half the past of Kirk Cousins is so funny let's make Kirk Cousins make someone miss
Starting point is 01:44:32 just that one didn't really they should have just sent him downfield they should have just like aired it out to him that made no sense but other than that Vikings it's Kirk Cousins just as much as we do he's like listen let's have Justin Jefferson play quarterback
Starting point is 01:44:48 and then get Kirk Cousins lit up but so to put a bow on the Vikings season incredible regular season we were right I think everyone else I think most Vikings fans also knew that we were right deep down I won't carry this hate
Starting point is 01:45:04 well I will because it's divisional but like they have a shitload of talent if they can figure out their defense it wasn't their offense their defense was really really bad and we saw it all day against the Giants and yeah to be continued we'll see what the next chapter holds
Starting point is 01:45:20 I actually think that next year's Vikings team is going to be way better than this year's because their offense is fine yeah they should have to fix their defense they'll take some steps towards doing and then I'll think they're fine I'll also go to bat for Kirk Cousins because I might be wrong about being so right
Starting point is 01:45:36 I know we just said that this is the rightest I might be wrong about how right I am because there is a chance that Kirk Cousins thought it was third down or there were five downs one of the two it's like a 10% possibility that he got confused and thought it was third down
Starting point is 01:45:52 and he checked down on it that would make way more sense and I would be inclined to be like yeah Kirk Cousins I kind of believe you if you were to say that that's how dumb of a decision it was so I'm either right about being wrong about Kirk Cousins
Starting point is 01:46:08 or I'm right about being right about Kirk Cousins I'll leave that much up to you and Kirk Cousins will forever be top you know a 10 to 15 quarterback in the NFL which is you can win a lot of games with that that's not bad he's not a bad quarterback
Starting point is 01:46:24 he never has been a bad quarterback if there was a hull of very good second ballot he's in easy we'd vote for him ourselves and the Giants will see the Giants Saturday night they feel a little team of destiny I'm a little nervous they are buying in
Starting point is 01:46:40 they're the most bought in team and we should also say this was the match up to see who gets our official coach of the year of the year vote Brian Dable well deserved and Greg Olson is very good that was the only thing
Starting point is 01:46:56 can you actually clip this just in Senate we can tweet it out Greg Olson is next up in a short time he's very good at calling a game at finding the right levels of like when to get excited when to get in and he teaches us something
Starting point is 01:47:12 Greg Olson not because we're friends with him I'm saying this if I didn't even know if I'd never met him in my life it'd be like Greg Olson next up he is very very good at broadcasting games and also when Tom Brady comes and takes his job next year I'm going to be a little bit sad about that don't include that part in this clip
Starting point is 01:47:28 maybe not Bengals 24 Raven 17 we just finished watching this game the Bengals now I have a different perspective now because I did put a future on them a few months ago
Starting point is 01:47:44 last year it was like how are they getting away with this this year it's like maybe this is what the Bengals just do in the playoffs they win games with a couple lucky plays and it happened tonight with the Sam Hubbard 99
Starting point is 01:48:00 yard touchdown which swung the entire game the what a beast the Ravens I mean he is a beast he's an absolute beast since that he kid played lacrosse no big deal rowback we have a story on barcelesports.com from last year yeah exactly he did all these things um
Starting point is 01:48:16 the Bengals it was a 1717 game the Ravens were playing just as you expected like staying in it playing great defense not not giving up any big plays doing just enough offensively running the ball well they're going in it's 1717 it's the fourth quarter
Starting point is 01:48:32 they're on the one yard line Tyler Huntley reaches out for a touchdown it gets knocked out of his hands which I mean you can say luck but it was a great play by the Bengals defense falls into Sam Hubbard's arms and he runs 99 yards for a touchdown and uh Statthole actually said that that was
Starting point is 01:48:48 uh the I think the first time the playoffs a player scored it's the highest numbered player to score a touchdown with higher number of yards than his number yes so in the past Greg Ellis and Mike Patterson they're both numbered 98 they scored on a
Starting point is 01:49:04 98 yard touchdown yeah so he beat that record he beat his own number uh but yeah that I that game like and similar to the bills dolphins game survive in advance so who cares doesn't matter how you win just win
Starting point is 01:49:20 but the Bengals got outplayed for a lot of that game like the the the Ravens here if you had told if we had said to you if I said before this game that the Ravens would have over a hundred yards more
Starting point is 01:49:36 total they'd have more uh rushing yards by like three times they'd have more passing yards they had more passing yards than than the Cincinnati Bengals with all their weapons and the Bengals still won the game like yeah that's the Bengals playoffs like that that the Ravens
Starting point is 01:49:52 played that game exactly how they needed to play the game to win that game and the Bengals just keep doing it and I they got a knack for it like I'm I and again I'm on the other side now so I'm rooting for them so I'm like happy I'm like hey look horse you up your ass don't explain it just win the Ravens
Starting point is 01:50:08 had such a weird offense that they had they put together pretty much the best game plan possible to beat the Bengals they which was let's run Lamar's offense with Huntley who's going to take us forward maybe get like two first downs and then we'll have two like back breaking penalties
Starting point is 01:50:24 and maybe an interception thrown in like after the back breaking penalties then we'll have to regain all that ground that we lost from those penalties so our offense is gonna have the ball for forever and which is that's that's how the Ravens beat you is they just they possessed the shit out of the ball they go on these huge clock-killing drives
Starting point is 01:50:40 I think that one in early on in the game on that touchdown drive wasn't like a seven seven thirty drive something like that it was it was the field goal driver I think at the end of the half they went uh oh no that no they did a touchdown drive ten ten minutes ten minutes yeah seventy five yards
Starting point is 01:50:56 seventeen plays yeah which is crazy it's so hard to do they just they figured okay Jamar Chase can't be scoring touchdowns against us if we have the ball in our hands so they had they played like the most boring style of football pretty much Huntley is always like tripping over himself in the back field
Starting point is 01:51:12 and barely regaining his composure doing a spin move and then hitting Mark Andrews for like an eleven yard game yeah that's kind of what their offense is predicated on today it almost worked it actually probably should have worked it should have worked with with the exception of Huntley thinking that he had Trevor Lawrence arms
Starting point is 01:51:28 yeah right because the like it's similar to the Bengals game uh last year against the Titans where they sacked Joe Burrow nine times and then Ryan Tano just threw the game away like I don't apologize for the win and the good news for the Bengals is the bills defense is not the
Starting point is 01:51:44 Ravens defense so everything should look that should be a shootout everything should look a lot easier the Bengals just find a way to win and that play that Sam Hubbard touchdown was so fucking electric like that was that was everyone stood up was like holy shit what is happening because
Starting point is 01:52:00 the game I mean I don't know what win percentage they do they are bullshit but it had to have swung it so severely because the Ravens were about to to take the lead and their defense was playing so well that it felt like the Bengals couldn't get anything going and then it just flipped on its head
Starting point is 01:52:16 and the Ravens had to play from behind and they can't do that. I have an ESPN before the play it was 59.1 Ravens then 85.8 Bengals I mean crazy not crazy one thing that I love this game was Eli Apple getting cooked and then Eli Apple getting
Starting point is 01:52:32 cooked again on the internet after because I don't know what it is about the guy I think it's because he's played for so many different teams that there are so many fan bases that have a genuine glowing white hot hatred of him that anytime he gets cooked it just becomes a big dog pile
Starting point is 01:52:48 online and it's so fun all the memes are so fun. I think Eli Eli Apple is one person that for whatever reason we can just all come together and laugh about because he's had a successful career by any given stretch like you can use any
Starting point is 01:53:04 measurement that you want he's an NFL veteran he's made a shit load of money but when he screws up he really screws up bad and it's awesome and I don't know what the Ravens do going forward I mean Lamar it feels like Billy said it he's liking tweets about going to the Jets doesn't feel great
Starting point is 01:53:20 I heard he's going to be a commander and Lamar I would treat you so good oh I would I give you your own bathroom everywhere we went it'd be like Kim Jong Un you have a train just of your bathroom that would follow you wherever you wanted to go that's a huge deal it is
Starting point is 01:53:36 for him and the Bengals I just the good news for the Bengals it's it is Hank did point out the other way to look at that stat I'll give you credit Hank it is hard to harder to beat a team three times because you beat him twice and then it is
Starting point is 01:53:52 20 to 14 I think we said on Friday so it you know the team that loses the first few times does win a fair share that was just an old school divisional these two teams know each other so fucking well of course it's going to be this tight the Bengals survive and now you have
Starting point is 01:54:08 in your way two teams maybe the Jaguars too so throw them in there but you beat the chiefs already you beat the bill seven to three already so you have teams you know you can beat yeah right there right in front of you the Bengals feel like they're just going to what
Starting point is 01:54:24 she beat the bill seven yeah they beat they beat the bill seven to three if the game never happened yeah no they the game is over and they had talked to any Bengals fans they were driving yeah they were driving the 7-3 was over the game was over dealing
Starting point is 01:54:40 anyone who thinks the Bengals weren't going to win that game is crazy we've never seen crazy comebacks in football games like a team coming back from 27 nothing or the Bengals coming back from 21 to 3 against the chiefs and they have to chip it 7-3 over what's up with the with the Bengals field why is it so dirty
Starting point is 01:54:56 why for being in a synthetic turf field they've just got black pellets everywhere not in the right place really it's also cursed it is we'll just a ton of injuries really bad injuries okay well whatever it is like they need somebody it needs to be
Starting point is 01:55:12 somebody's job to sweep up those black pellets because they're I've never seen a field as messy in my life well they're ready to go and and it is so funny I mentioned it when we were watching the game but the Bengals helmet when Andy Dalton wore it
Starting point is 01:55:28 was like okay this is kind of a joke when Joe Burrow wears it is like these guys are for real well I thought Andy looked good in it yeah I know but you like you knew like ah we're just playing around it's Andy like that's fun Joe Burrow wears it's like these are ferocious things right I mean he makes everything look cool
Starting point is 01:55:44 the entire montage of Joe Burrow wearing clothes that would actually get us locked up in St. Asylum if we put him on but when he does it's like damn they also went a little too far when they showed him walking in today and he was just wearing regular clothes yeah and they're like so cool look how when do you think the backlash is
Starting point is 01:56:00 gonna start for Joe Burrow and what do you think it's gonna look like so I hope it never comes because we love Joe but knowing how the sports media works if the Bengals go deep in the playoffs like let's say the next two to three seasons and they don't win a Super Bowl
Starting point is 01:56:16 I was mentioning before like people won't some people won't remember but like there was a long stretch where we were living in the greatest hot take culture of all time and Peyton Manning and Arod were the biggest chokers of all time they were losers they're like they stink they can't win
Starting point is 01:56:32 anything they're terrible players like two guys who were the best players in their respective leagues were bums Peyton was Arod kinda was yeah right so Hank is giving you a time portal to seeing it but so unfortunately
Starting point is 01:56:48 I think that's how media works that will then even though Joe Burrow is awesome dude and awesome player yeah like that's a compliment though because we're not sitting here having a conversation about like Kirk Cousins can't win the big one like he hasn't reached that level yet
Starting point is 01:57:04 Joe Burrow is good enough where now he's gonna have expectations behind him of winning the big one it's gonna be like yeah he hasn't won anything it's gonna be don't you know cigars are bad for you what kind of role are you setting for the kids and then it's gonna be why is he friends with those part of my take
Starting point is 01:57:20 losers yeah yeah those are the big three that they're gonna attack them about yeah and I am all in on uh because here's the other thing like you don't think you need luck to win a Super Bowl you could go through any Super Bowl run and be like there was luck here there was luck there the ball bounced their way the bangles just have
Starting point is 01:57:36 the ball bouncing their way right now that just is what it is so you can't like like there is something to have it having a knack for you know you know having the ball bounce your way and and making those big plays and the bangles keep doing it I cannot wait for that bills bangles game what time
Starting point is 01:57:52 is it three o'clock three o'clock shout out jakey nailed all his predictions thank you um yeah that game is going to fucking rule like we have I agree I agree listen I love these games yes yes divisional round might be my my favorite weekend this is gonna be maybe
Starting point is 01:58:08 the most anticipatory week of of just waiting I love it I love it so much every single matchup my pants are getting tight I'm pumped especially for this one yeah we've been waiting two weeks to see this game and you know it would make it perfect because we have every storyline right now we have we have
Starting point is 01:58:24 Patrick Mahomes versus the new young gun Trevor Lawrence we have Giants Eagles divisional rivals hated teams we have Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow what would be perfect is is if we have Mr. Relevant versus Tom Brady going home Tom Brady going back to Candlestick
Starting point is 01:58:40 and if you think NFL is rigged Hank you'll have time to switch your pen because that would be although you know what let me let me be nice to you Cowboys 49ers is also a very classic 90s matchup so you have that the fact that the worst game in terms of storylines involves
Starting point is 01:58:56 Patrick Mahomes we're so lucky yeah we're blessed we're blessed we're blessed shout out football shout out football all right let's do one last ad and then we'll wrap up with who's back of the week before we get to who's back it's brought to you by Peloton it's hard to stick to working out but guess what Peloton makes it easy
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Starting point is 02:01:04 slash home dash trial I'm getting back on the bike this week look for us on the leaderboard see if you can beat us Henry who's back I don't know how this didn't start the show but my who's back of the week is a handball
Starting point is 02:01:20 oh yeah how did they start the show specifically US handball the boys in red white and blue won their first international match in 21 years yes they beat Morocco good sports town USA
Starting point is 02:01:36 we're back shout out to our guy Tyred Tyred love it and I mean some might say it's because we started talking about handball on this podcast and said any athlete could step out there and compete some people hurt us and we got new blood on the team
Starting point is 02:01:52 yep facts alright US handball back how did that start the show they did lose to Croatia but I think we're still in the tournament Croatia is probably one of those really good countries they're good at everything they try in Croatia name one thing Croatia is bad at
Starting point is 02:02:08 winning wars I think they won a war did they they seem to be pretty peaceful in Croatia no no they haven't PFT who's your who's back my first who's back of the week
Starting point is 02:02:24 is Colin Coward stealing our stuff yeah Colin Coward did he did like a headline show which is a topic or a segment that he stole from Scott Van Pelt like tomorrow's headlines today and so on last Friday's show
Starting point is 02:02:40 the herd fucking fake soup guy Colin Coward hooks up on his bottom line I want to rock and roll all night and purty every day right after we talked to Booger about that so he's he's a thief
Starting point is 02:02:56 he stole soup from me and overwrite analogies he steals what else do you steal Joe Burrow he stole Joe Burrow from us he stole dying his hair 4k he stole being divorced from Dave
Starting point is 02:03:12 I'm not dying my hair anymore people are saying that I'm very gray they were mentioning many times on the stream how gray I look so even I don't dye my hair I just said fuck you I blocked him he's not getting these takes for free
Starting point is 02:03:28 you're never gonna die again if just for men wants to step up I will that's no free ads but start advertising with us I'll fucking go jet black we'll be very funny what if there's another brand yeah whatever brand
Starting point is 02:03:44 same something for guys any brand that's listening right now you have a model ready to go Uh, I will dye my hair jet black for a dude. Maybe not jet black. But yeah, only for dudes Florida dude only for dudes Florida a Florida man hairstyle. Yeah All right, what's your other who's back? Oh, yeah, my other who's back the week You know what that that can be my only who's back the week except for Cliff Kingsbury. He's back for being a genius
Starting point is 02:04:11 Yeah, turns out Cliff Kingsbury Cliff Curry Kingsbury We talked a lot of shit about him all of it was deserved But the stuff that we said about him being dumb not true because he did what I think any of us would do if we got fired With like 30 million guaranteed. He got a one-way ticket to Thailand. Yeah, and so he's just gonna hang out in Thailand for like I don't know years. Oh, so who's back Shawn McVeigh. Shawn McVeigh is actually back and also who's back Aaron Donald Aaron Donald's who retired for like five minutes and now it's back All right, my who's back. I Have to round down
Starting point is 02:04:47 Unfortunately, but I'll just do it anyway. So I have to round down or sorry my who's back. Yeah, I'm gonna actually it's a hot seat But it's who's back my who's back Deandre Jordan Andre Drummond and Ben Wallace. I have to round down here, but those three guys. What do they have in common PFT pistons? Nope. Well, yeah, but nope. Wait, what? No, what do they have in common though? Say it again Deandre Jordan. Yeah, Ben Wallace Andre Drummond Senors if you round down they all shoot 40% from the free throw guy So they would be equal to Henry Lockwood who said that he could shoot eight for ten from the free throw line
Starting point is 02:05:26 Ben Wallace won an NBA title. Yeah, he did. That's a fact. So there you go So I'd have to round down though because Deandre Jordan's actually 47.5 percent Andre Germans 47.4 Ben Wallace is 41.4. So that's pretty close. But yeah, Hank Decided it was a Friday night. You just said I can hit well. We have the free throw Friday bets Available exclusively in the bars of sportsbook on Fridays. You pick a player in the early game I pick a player in the late game. I tweeted it out promoting it and someone said how many Free throws would you make out of ten? Didn't really think about it. I was like in back of my day
Starting point is 02:06:00 I was a prolific free throw shooter wasn't wasn't a huge fan of like what do you think prolific means just really good unbelievably good Was never a huge fan of like really working out and like getting sweaty and like, you know Practicing basketball that way. I would just go out in the driveway and shoot free throws So I was like I've I'm a good free throw shooter. I can easily hit eight out of ten might have been a little ambitious Didn't four out of ten the first time well that you said Even that's what that's all in the counter. It was windy as fuck though Yeah, and no one was rebounding people read people with no free throw shooters ever had to get their own rebound
Starting point is 02:06:37 Yeah, it was sad too because I gave him a chance for redemption I was like you get ten more because you know We could have sat there forever and if we did a million free throws at some point There would be a stretch of ten then Hank hits eight out of ten. Unfortunately. We didn't have enough time So I said go shoot ten more You know would be the the worst punishment ever for our next year pick thing is just you have to keep shooting free throws until you Make 20 in a row. Mmm. No, that wouldn't be that to be 20 hundred in a row would be bad I don't think yeah, wait, you could you think you can make 20 free throws in a row. Yes
Starting point is 02:07:08 I mean it would take a while, but yes, yeah take a while. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, no But I think I could do it within the first Two hours guess is another challenge, but then you get tired by the end of it. That's true If it's two hours, you're gonna be Yeah, that's I mean, I would never do it without a massive massive massive massive massive Distincts, wait, hey, you get 20 literally shot 20 shots and you're saying not only if you're being tired before rhythm too Yes, yeah, but anyway, so Hank went four for ten. I said hey go ahead take ten more Let's see if we can get this eight. He got all the way to the end. He was seven for nine
Starting point is 02:07:43 There was actually a little kid who walked by I was like daddy This is like look at this NBA player and then Hank Clanked the last one and the kids started crying just crying Did you promise him was he sick? Was he on the way to the hospital like don't worry about a kid. I'll make this for you. Shout out that one AWL Stoolie who literally as Hank is going for one of his free throws. This was during his four out of ten Drove by and just screamed out of his car Hank You fucking suck at free throws as he was shooting it and he fucking missed it
Starting point is 02:08:15 Yeah, I was one for two at that point miss that one and then it was over that that that I Was not able to recover from that I can still go to sleep at night knowing on the best free throw shooter in this room without I mean by far you could probably I will not fight you on that. Yeah, I will kicker. I'll see you there Yeah, no definitely just all around athlete also just to be clear to not throw any shade on Ben Wallace Ben Wallace is technically a better free throw shooter than Hank because it's 41.4 percent Hank could probably beat him up though Hank was 40 percent First time probably well, you were 11 for a total so not much better four degrees out
Starting point is 02:08:54 Well, I said we could get it inside Jimmy like no, no, no, I want to do it outside. It's no difference It wasn't a regulation height either it was nine foot rim. Oh, where was this? Yeah, I gotta get a video of me trying to touch it. How bad is that nine foot rim? I think it wasn't far enough away I've actually made like a mental list every time I see I drive by a hoop that looks like it's about nine and a half feet tall I just drop a mental pen in it so I can go back and touch it later. Yeah, and be like look still got it Yeah, Billy really quick before my who's back the winner of the last football guy of the week for this season Was Damar Hamlin? He won. Oh, not Peyton Hillis. Payton Hillis. Oh, it was a very close race
Starting point is 02:09:35 It was actually much closer than I thought But yeah tomorrow Hamlin squeeze it out. Good for tomorrow. Good. I'd never thought he'd win that in my Real who's back is bad statues. So over the years. We've had some bad statues Think about Christiana Ronaldo statue his bus before it's been going viral. That also for talking about the Vikings I've it's been a tough year for takes for me. Sorry to interrupt. What was your take? Oh that Christiana Ronaldo was the greatest soccer player. Oh damn Hank And then you said and then he signed with Saudi Arabia. Yeah, I'm messy Couldn't have been worse on that one
Starting point is 02:10:14 Cowboys. Yeah We'll be streaming it it is a reputation game for you It's and again, I want to just repeat if the Bucks win this game We might not have a guess on Wednesday. It might just be a full Exclusive with Henry Lockwood. I will say nothing. I'll be muted. Okay. No, you won't So it's been going pretty viral But in the Boston Commons they unveiled a new statue for MLK and most of Twitter thinks that it looks like either Penises or poop that you can say that about basically anything though
Starting point is 02:10:48 Like Twitter. Yeah, what do you think Billy? How do you think the art of the statue is? I'm not really sure what it is, but it does look like poop Thousand who's back? All right, but by the way happy MLK day. Yes To all those who celebrate Which should be everyone except for Arizona. They don't know it took them till like 1995 yikes to acknowledge it as a holiday. Yikes. Yeah, that was like a Chris Rock routine I think he said like, you know how racist you have to be to not take a day off work. Yeah, seriously notifications on for a bell today Yeah, oh, yeah that happy anniversary. This is the date when Ravel said that he had upwards of nine or more
Starting point is 02:11:28 Pieces of MLK memorabilia and his best friends are black some of them some of them. He has any sorry For appreciating history, I think he said I'm sorry I think you said I just I just find it cute. Yeah, and I'm accused of being racist when I have nine or more Autographed Rosa Parks rookie in double ACP cards. Actually, I'm gonna find that All right, go ahead Jake My who's back is Novak Djokovic in Australia The Australian Open started. I heard there's a show for this by the way. Yes, I need to watch it I need to watch it too. Yeah, Netflix show. Apparently. It's really good. It's f1 for tennis
Starting point is 02:12:09 Yeah, pretty much it highlights a curious the guy we talked about over the summer He actually just had to retire from the tournament due to injury, but that guy's always quitting something um Yes, so last year Djokovic got deported from Australia couldn't participate this year If you get booed you get kicked out Allegedly, love it. Wait if you boo if you boo him, okay? Oh, they deport you From the tournament. There's no amnesty rabbit got the gun. Yeah, there's conflicting reports. I was actually feeling discrimination To ban booing. What if you throw a battery at somebody? Yeah, you can't do that. Yeah, Max. They're coming after your culture This is gross. So the quote is if they disrupt the enjoyment of anyone else boom. They are out
Starting point is 02:12:53 We don't want them on site. They can stay away or we will kick them out Yeah, but what if you're cheering against someone and the other person's cheering for the other person? I would disrupt my enjoyment of it true Also, no booing It's a bit rich for a country. That's an entire it's it's founded on a penal colony to start policing people's manners now Yeah, so there's no reports about the actual booing rule, but if you're disrupting the enjoyment, you're out Crazy Sure, I have I have over nine MLK signed items
Starting point is 02:13:26 I am a humongous fan of what he's done this big fan and over the last seven years I've collected a lot of things. It's not only MLK. It's a lot of black history. I own a Rosa Parks Signed and double AC that's not what that is. So it was pretty shocking today how I was called racist When when I am a student and lover of black history And it was it was I never expected the reaction that I that I got today I'm sorry, I'm sorry if people think that a white man can't enjoy black history I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I really am if I'm sorry if people think that a white man Can't love Martin Luther King, but to me that seems pretty counterintuitive
Starting point is 02:14:27 Wait, wait, if I can't be a fan of his and appreciate everything he's done, how come I own all the stuff I'm sorry Sorry, sorry, I just find it cute that I have over nine pieces of MLK game-worn merch I'm sorry Okay, great show everyone. Oh, I don't think you've been wrong about lottery ball. Have you ever gotten it right? Nope. Oh I'm going with 71 numbers yet I'm gonna take 17 okay, oh wait get it throwing money. I have money in my eyes. So I'm really carry cash
Starting point is 02:15:14 I have 20 2020. All right, Jake 18 20 Memes has a safe no, he doesn't Instead he's bringing in tomorrow. I'd pick 17. I was gonna pick 71 because of Michael Parsons kid 7.1 ounces. Oh, yeah reminder. Yep. Sack about right. Yep. Michael Parsons. Congrats on the sacks He's getting a sack tomorrow. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Dak Prescott number number four How much money for us who don't have cash? Numbers so hey, you ever got 71 nope easy easy
Starting point is 02:15:57 Thank you since 17 oh 60 60 60 so close 60 Love you guys clouded leopard escaped from the Dallas zoo and they think someone was trying to help the animals escape What if I don't get it this year? this entire year You have to get a tattoo of
Starting point is 02:16:26 Get some of our faces. Oh our faces. Yes our faces and it's it's it's actually Mount Rushmore. It's me PFT Billy and Kirk Cousins So just the same picture twice yeah, yeah, and Daniel Jones Yeah Okay, all right great. I was thinking it was gonna be I should like get something good, but whatever we're throw Kyle Trask in there, too Yeah, why not wait? Yeah, why don't you just get it like all of Billy lookalikes like old-school Dan Campbell? But the young Buzz Lightyear and Kirk Cousins On your chest, I would wish that I
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