Pardon My Take - The Thunder Win The NBA Title, Mariners Catcher Cal Raleigh AKA Big Dumper In Studio, Hank Is Back From Vacation And Kevin Durant Is Traded Again

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

The Thunder win the NBA Title and we talk about a Game 7 that didn't live up to the hype after Tyrese Haliburton's torn achilles. SGA's incredible season, Sam Presti finally gets his chip. We talk about the level of gut punch for the Pacers after an incredible playoff run (00:00:00-00:18:41). Kevin Durant traded again (00:18:41-00:24:30). Tommy Fleetwood can't win the big one or a one in general (00:24:30-00:38:59). Who's back of the week including Mt Rushmore season coming Wednesday, WWIII, Jonathan Toews and more (00:38:59-00:59:24). Cal Raleigh joins the show to talk baseball, being nicknamed Big Dumper, being a catcher, hitting bombs and tons more (00:59:24-01:45:38). We finish the show with a recap of Hank's trip to Pebble Beach (paid for by Big Cat and PFT) and he brought home gifts for the boys (01:45:38-01:45:38).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music on today's part in my take. The Oklahoma City Thunder are NBA champs. We recap Game seven. Terry's Halberton's torn Achilles, which sucked. Really, really big bummer for the Pacers, but a deserving champ in the Thunder we throw some flowers on them We also have big dumper in studio future MVP

Cal Raleigh who hit for home runs since we recorded this on Thursday So we'll update his on pace before we get to his interview. We're talk Kevin Durant getting traded Henry is back. Yeah, he's back. We're going to end the show with Hank giving us some gifts from Pebble Beach because we gifted him a trip to Pebble Beach, a whirlwind vacation, a whirlwind vacation. Great to have him back. We also have who's back of the week. We're gonna recap everything and it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. Nothing says summer like long days, clutch plays and firing off a few bets on the game.

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Uh, let's all right. So game seven was a little bit of a bummer because Tyrese Halberton's Achilles. Let's, let's save the talk about the Pacers and that, and we'll throw some flowers on the Thunder much deserving flowers uh even though it was a bummer when Tyrese Halberton towards Achilles. Yeah I mean shout out also to Isaiah Hartenstein's son. Yeah. I don't know if he's woken up yet but that was adorable just passed out during the the trophy presentation. Listen when he says you sleep he says wake me up for the second one. Yeah when you sleep you sleep which I mean should we start we we were credit to us

This is the worst Oklahoma City Thunder team that will win a championship during this dynasty They had to go to seven against the Nuggets. They had to go to seven against the Pacers I don't expect that to happen ever again for them We could also do the thing where we say just right off the bat You know, I I think whoever won that Thunder Nuggets series that was gonna be the champion I was gonna be the champion no matter what gonna be the champion. No matter what. Yeah. But yeah, the Thunder, incredible season. Second most wins all time for a title team. The 95, 96 Bulls had 87 wins. The Oklahoma City Thunder this year had 84 wins. The 96, 97 Bulls also had 84 wins. Pretty crazy. 68 regular season wins obviously need the 16 playoff wins to complete it Pretty pretty awesome season. They had the MVP

SGA goes down with an all-time season all-star scoring title unanimous first team all-nba MVP most wins Western Conference finals MVP titleals MVP, title, Finals MVP. That's just about the perfect season. It really is. He ran the whole thing. If you were to draw it up at the start of the year, if you were to say, what would I possibly want out of the season? I think he checked off every single box.

Yeah, if he did his little dream board. He had an Etsy dream board. He was like, man, I want to wish on these things. Maybe put a little something under his pillow saying, hopefully this year I'm going to become this. You know what? Like the first day of school, like first grade. Like when I, when I, when I graduate first grade, I want to be able to read. Yeah. When I graduate this season, by the way, did you see, I think Lou Dort said it is like game seven is like the last day of school. Like you just got energy. You got to leave it all out there. It's like, I don't, that's not

what school was like school. The last day was just hectic. It was just like, I'm not doing shit. You can't tell me shit. The last day of school, it was like, it was like jail. It was like, yeah, trying to escape from prison. Um, yeah, no, that's the, the, maybe one of the greatest seasons, definitely one of the greatest seasons of all time that he had. If you were SGA, which one of those accomplishments would you be most likely to get tattooed on your body? Wait, did he win? He didn't win All-Star MVP. That's the one. That's the one that alluded.

That would have been it. Not the perfect season. That would have been it. There will always be an asterisk on the season for SGA. Yeah. He didn't win the All-Star MVP, but incredible season. Wire to wire. The Thunder were the best team wire to wire for the entire season. And it felt like, you know, it w it wasn't a pretty game. Game sevens usually aren't, but they had their future basically all show up for a game seven in chat, j-dub and SGA

was great. Yeah. Chet was great. What do you have five blocks tonight? Yeah. He was all over the place. The defense that got them there showed up big time in game seven, insane smothering team, Anaconda chokehold defense. They, they were first, uh, in net rating, uh, first in defensive rating, third in offensive rating, uh, and they're the second youngest championship team in NBA history. So the future is very bright and that's a hell of a hell of a team. Also they have a million picks. So we should say, uh, Sam Presti. I actually am very happy for Sam Preston. I'm most happy for Alex Cruz. Our friend, but I'm very happy for Sam Presti. Sam Presti has been with the thunder organization since they were the Sonics. He was hired in 2007 or yeah, I think it was 2007 went on obviously

an insane draft run with KD with Russ with Hardin with the Baca. That team was the second youngest finals team ever in 2012 ownership cheaps out. They have to trade Hardin that falls apart reconfigures them with Russell Westbrook and part and Paul George. That doesn't work. Paul George traded for SGA. This guy is one of the best GMs in any sport. And it's cool that he finally like 18 years, I think he's been there. And he just won with the second youngest team, his way and a pocket full of picks going forward. And he's doing it in a small market team where it feels like the NBA out of all the sports was like the gap between the big markets and small markets had become profound. So pretty cool for him. Yeah, very cool for him. Also great trade picking up Alex Caruso. Well, that was yeah, that was a difference maker. He went on, you know, obviously he had the run of draft picks where he hit on, you know, the the hardened Durant Russ in Ibaka. And then he did it again when he got Chet and J Dub

and Giddy who became Caruso. You know, I mean that like the way he's been able to ship shape, shape, shape, shape, shape, thank you, shape, shape, shape, the Thunder organization, like time and time again. And we were talking about it. They didn't tank. They had two bad years. They didn't take the rebuilt. They didn't do a process. They didn't rebuild. They reloaded. Yeah. So he's an all time executive, all time GM building

this team and yeah, they're going to be good for a really long time. Yeah. So if we go and go and guy for guy, this is the best team in the NBA this year. Right? We can say that definitively. I would say that's definitively the case. Uh-huh, right? Yeah, I think you can't make an argument against that No, you can't at all right pf2 and they did have to battle back tonight They were down at halftime people forget that they were down by a point people for are forgetting left and right that the Pacers were Up at halftime tonight TG McConnell was like their entire offense in the third quarter for the Pacers. No, like literally. Yeah. Their entire office. And that means we're like they have it in the last six minutes of game time. T.J. McConnell is the only one who scored. And that means also the good and the bad,

because he also I think he had seven turnovers tonight. Yeah. But everybody on the Pacers had at least one turnover, except for the guys that got in for the very last minute of the game. Yes. It was it was just a clinic, a defensive clinic by the Oklahoma City Thunder. The second half, they just got ahead and just choked him out. Choked him out. Choke hold. And a kind of choke. That's what it was. Do you want to hear a crazy stat? This is maybe a wow. I don't know if it's a wow. I have two wows for you, actually.

The first one is, oh, nice, Hank. Adam Silver has just crowned his ninth different champion in his 12 post-seasons as NBA commissioner. In David Stern's 30 post-seasons, how many champions did he crown? 12. 10. What?

Yeah, that's a whoa. So this is the seventh different champion in seven years, which is crazy. Parody is very much here for the NBA, but isn't that nuts? 30 years for David Stern. He crowned eight unique champions. 12 years for Adam Silver. This is his ninth different champion. That does make you think. It's the Warriors and then all new ones?

It's the Warriors, Cavs, and then yeah, I mean the last seven years have been Raptors, Lakers, Bucks, Warriors, Nuggets, Celtics, Thunder. It does make you think what a great job David Stern did of building up the dynasty franchises, right? Yeah. Yeah, he did.

But he did it. But I like this. I like new, fun, entertaining styles of basketball, getting to meet up in the postseason teams that you don't normally see. Like the Pacers, yeah, they didn't get it done in game seven But they play such a fun style of basketball and it was a joy to have them in the pit in the postseason as long as We did. Yeah, I really enjoyed watching Pacers basketball. Yeah. All right, so you looked it up Zack so yeah, so the Spurs were the first

title he crowned Seven unique ones in the last seven years and then you throw in the calves, right? That would be nine Spurs calves. I can't all the rods as double time as the same. It's pretty nuts. Yeah seven in seven years Do you want to hear the really crazy? Whoa that I saw on Friday that I was hoping would come true for the Pacers If Rick Carlisle had won this game, he would have been the oldest NBA coach to win an NBA title. That is crazy He also was the oldest coach to coach an NBA Finals game. How old is he? 65 years old. He does not look 65. Older than Pop. Everyone was thrown out. I saw the replies. It was like Pop? Larry Brown? Larry Brown was 64. Pop was you

know whatever 12 years ago so he was 64. Rick Carl is not 65. No it also goes to show you that if you look at any coach from like the nineties or the eighties or God forbid the seventies, if you're a 45 year old head coach, you look like you're 70. Yeah. Back then, like Jim Leland, the baseball manager looked like he was nine years old when he was 40. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, that's the oldest coach in NBA history. Not the oldest coach, coach finals game sack. So that would be the finals game part. Yeah. Uh, pretty crazy. We had the thunder. I, I awesome, awesome season and they're not going anywhere. They have so many picks. Yeah. Impossible amount of picks. I mean the fact that they were a lottery ball away from being the third pick

this year or no, they wouldn't have gotten the third. They would have, would have, what was it if they had kept the six or six pick? Would have been would have been where they keep it. Max, is that right? Seven. We had top six protected. That's right. That's right. But I mean, it's insane how many picks they have and they have a super young team. And like I said, the the J. Dub Chet SGA threesome looks like it's going to be here for a long time.

So J. Dub was great in these finals, too. He was. Yeah. speaking of the Sixers Next year. I threw this out there to max is next year the Sixers year. Mm-hmm I feel like this is their year now the East being wide open as it is. Yeah, so for the Pacers That's I Think that's got to be one of the all-time gut punch Like end of seasons Considering the fact it was a magical ride. They've

never won a title as a franchise. Tyrese Halberton gets hurt there, uh, and he's going to be out for a year. I don't like, I don't really know. I don't know. And also thinking about, uh, even how this series went, they were a quarter away from being up three, one. I feel so bad for Pacers fans, magical, magical run. And that's just as bad as bad. It sucks. The moral of the story. If you have, if you have any sort of a calf injury, just don't play basketball.

Well, that's, that's, I mean, Tyrese Halliburton, it's the same thing that happened to Kevin Durant in the finals when he came back and snapped his Achilles. The, if he doesn't play, he's going to be, you know, dubbed as soft and didn't want it for his guys. Uh, and then if he does play, this is exactly what could happen with a strained calf and it sucks. He's putting in an impossible situation and I feel really, really bad for him after an incredible run where he just, how many, I mean, how many clutch shots did he hit? Like you have million. If you're, if you're hell of a burden, you have to have to play but it should it should now make players think yeah We've seen this a couple times where the Achilles injury wasn't something that happened as frequently as it does now

There's gonna be a big conversation about The length of the NBA season and are these guys too big, fast because we had how many we had Dame Tatum Hal Burton all where the number zero Yeah, I'll wear the number zero all toward their Achilles in these playoffs season maybe goes too long. That's definitely gonna come I that's coming. I'm gonna take it back even further I'm gonna say all the way back to youth basketball and AAU. Have these guys played too much basketball? Yeah, maybe too much basketball and shout out Paul George for getting the Thunder all of these

Everything yeah, he gave him everything it was still it actually should be a Paul George ring He should get a ring. It was a great postseason for the Pacers It sucks that this is like the biggest damper that you could ever put on it because you also now kind of have to punt On next year. It's brutal. It's absolutely brutal. I feel awful for Pacers fans. I even said it while we were watching it. I think it was when it was pretty much a tie game. I was like, would you, if you're a Pacers fan, would you right now, if you go back in time, lose game six? So you have a chance to have Hal Burton for next year and build on a finals run that was incredible. It just sucks. I think I know, but it's no sliding doors of

like if they lose game six, Hal Burton does not. He's there for next year. He gets his calf rested. He's, he's back and ready to go. And it just sucks that you, it's, it's, it's like a double loss. It's not just a loss It's you lose you were half away from an NBA title What Hank I'm saying that yeah, you go from do you think you're gonna win the title too? Yeah, but they were in the finals Yeah, yeah, mm-hmm when this happened, you know how they feel though is what you're saying You know exactly how they feel I was talking about how yes, I was relating to Indiana Pacers fans Yeah, not with anything personal, Indiana Pacers fans. Yeah. Not with anything personal, but.

Just in general. Yeah. Also, yeah, I don't really know what's positive. I mean, Pascal Siakam's awesome. He was incredible. Like, I know this game wasn't his best game, but like the entire playoff run, he's an absolute. And people were ready.

How much merch would have been sold with the nickname the Thunder taker with his eyes The picture of him before game six. So yeah about that. I don't know who he was talking to which spirit He was he was summoning. Mm-hmm. There's a chance that he was like I will do anything To win this game six. Mm-hmm And then the the finger on the monkey paw curled and it was like, okay, you got it But you have to pay with your Achilles It's brutal. Yep. I don't think that there's no chance that a Pacers fan in the moment would have said yeah

I wish that we'd lost game six now they do. Yeah now sure well I was more say it knowing that like it's gonna be a tall task to win this game without Tyrese Halburn because it Look the Thunder are deserving champions You can't put an asterisk on him If you're a Pacers fan you are will forever say what if especially how Tyrese Halberton was playing in that first quarter He finished the game the leader in three-pointers made yeah, and he played for what seven minutes So he you could tell he was kind of feeling it and

this, you know, we know that he is in the, when the lights get really bright, Tyrese Halberton comes through. He had that kind of feeling to him in this game, how it started. So you will forever say, what if, what happens if he, if he doesn't tear his Achilles, do we win this game? I think maybe it's a fair, what if you're a Pacers fan? Yeah. I think a, this off season you, you might just build around TJ McConnell. Free agents are gonna be beaten down the door to play with T. They didn't need to show TJ McConnell crying after the game. Okay, you see that they didn't need to show that. But they had to. Yeah. We also we didn't need to see Tyrese Halliburton's ankle snapping like two dozen times. I think

they're gonna play that. It's gonna be there's there's going to be a brand new ESPN channel, ESPN ouch. And it's just going to be Halliburton's ankle just like disintegrating. Do you know what, do you know why I think they, they, they kept on showing it PFD? I think because, uh, we now have seen enough of these Achilles injuries in high level moments in the NBA that we all sitting and watching can point to it and be like, yep, that's an Achilles and feel like doctors Diagnose that the broadcast is like we're gonna show this 17 times Yeah, because we know definitively, you know, usually a guy gets injured like we don't know we have no idea we don't know what it's gonna be this one you can see the pop and

Everyone feels so smart being like I know that Listen, I I went to medical school I fucking know that it's an Achilles that they give me a great I they should actually do ESPN ouch, and it's just injuries non-stop. I'd watch it just brutal injuries I know commercials serving sports fans anytime anywhere. I'm a sicko for that the Achilles though does make me squirm a little yeah I'm not gonna lie. I would rather a leg break or even like a knee bend versus Achilles. I don't know something about an Achilles

when you see the pop. Zach has just been playing it this whole time too. Yeah, no, he's just, he's. The pop is bad. We're clockwork orange right now. We got our eyes open watching this over and over. Any other thoughts on the end of the NBA season? It was kind of a perfect NBA day

where Kevin Durant getting traded again, like kind of took all the headlines when you had a game seven for the first time in almost a decade in the NBA. Yeah, I mean that sums up the NBA. My big takeaway right now from the NBA season being over is it's football season. It is. It does feel like whenever that happens, like happens like alright, and it's Mount Rushmore Wednesday we're back a Mount Rushmore. It's common

Yeah, that was crazy how Kevin Durant found out that he was traded on stage at the fanatics fest hmm hmm Interesting so he's going to the Rockets hmm good fit a lot of home set the fanatics fest very big hmm Tom Brady winning a million bucks. Hmm Trophies getting broken. Hmm Great fit rockets are gonna be very good. Yeah fit they needed they needed a go-to score Kevin Durant is still a go-to scorer You also like I don't really It's not like the Suns got a huge haul. I think the sun's actually like reading this trade. They got Dylan Brooks, Jalen Green and five second round picks and this year's

first, which was their first. They got it back. They got it back. I think Ishbia was like, Hey, I need, I need people who just read Twitter and have like the attention span of a goldfish who just keeps scrolling. I need them to think that I did well in this trade. Make it five second round picks. Cause I don't know if you guys had the same feeling, but when I scrolled by it, I was like, damn five picks. I was like, Oh, second round picks. I was like, that's a lot of assets. You just call them assets. You don't, you don't describe where they are, who they're from. Uh, then you can just spin them. It's valuable. It's something of value. It's not a terrible strategy, but I've managed to be a, if I were an owner,

I'd be like, Hey, give, you know, I'll trade you my superstar. How about you give me a 27 second round picks? Yeah. Just so, just so I could see the Shams tweet and be like, look at that guys. I trade my Silverado for, for 20 broken down cars that don't work. Yeah, no, I, I, the, the sons are are trying to build the whole plane out of shooting guards. Yeah, so they have, I think they've got their entire salary cap space devoted to four guards. Yeah, it's basically all wings.

It's all wings. Their whole team is wings, like $180 million to wings. I think they'll probably trade, well, the problem is they can't trade Bradley Beal, which is the one they want to trade. Bradley Beal, his full can't treat Bradley Beale, which is the one they want to trade Bradley Beale his full name is now Bradley Beale's no trade clause. Yeah. Yes, because he's never getting traded I don't I assume the sons are gonna do something otherwise it would be funny if they're like hey What if we just wings are very important in the NBA today? Mm-hmm. Let's let's just bring out a bunch of these guys Yeah, I have no idea what they're doing the ball up

And it was like a year and a half ago that Matt Ishby said, like, we're not far away. We're very close. Yeah. This stuff isn't hard. Since Kevin Durant left Golden State, he's been traded three times. One was assigned to trade and he has two playoff series wins. What does this mean for Kevin Durant's legacy? Are you saying if he goes to the Rockets and wins?

No, I'm just saying what is the trade? I just like to end when Kevin Durant is in the news, I like to end every sentence like, Hey, what do you want for breakfast? And what does this mean for Kevin Durant's legacy? I think this means that Kevin Durant is perpetually unhappy and is made more unhappy in his quest to find happiness. Okay, That feels good. Hank, what does this mean for Kevin Durant's legacy? He's got to win now or else he's just going to go down as all time. I mean, he'll go down as all time gun no matter what, but I got a problem with this meme by the way. He's got to win. Zach just pulled it up.

Kevin Durant has officially completed the NBA rainbow challenge. Uh, I don't count this because as you can see, he's got a blue suns and a purple Suns they they basically did this because Shaq was the originator of this Shaq did complete the rainbow challenge naturally I think Chris Paul did as well and the rainbow challenge obviously we're talking about Wearing all the colors of the rainbow and all the jerseys and teams you played for look Shaq did it in a natty way He actually did it He had uh, he had the heat the Suns the Lakers Celtics the Magic the Cavs and the Lakers

Oh, I guess there's two Lakers in there, but I feel like he had another one and thrown in there I don't count it if you have to use the weird alternate sons I also think that him as a Cleveland Cavalier that I don't know if that's indigo Yeah, true the eye for indigo. We could find some football players have done that for sure. Yeah the rainbow challenge But yeah, Kevin Durant's legacy. I'm excited to talk about it and That was Kevin Durant's legacy. I think it's worse for his legacy if he wins With the Rockets, I think it's good if he gets a ring I think that's the team he can go to and if he, cause it's a young enough team that he can be like, yeah they needed Kevin

Durant. Cause it's almost a perfect setup for him. They were good this year. They were the two seed. They got bounced in the first round of the playoffs. Now Kevin Durant shows up, shows the young Bucks how to play basketball, how to play winning basketball, all credit to Kevin Durant. Let's see who else do the Rockets have going into next year? Uh, Shungoon, that's a good piece. Yeah, no, they're a good team. They're Thompson.

You know what? Fred Van Vliet still he's going, he's going running back home to the comforting arms of Steven Adams. Yeah, no, they are a good team. And uh, with Kevin Durant, they could be a great team. So I think it's a good thing. They did not have that guy in the playoffs that would step up. But if, if, if, if the Rockets had gone to, let's say the Western conference final, I think it would have been bad for Kevin Durant's legacy. The fact that they got bounced in

the first round by an aging warriors team. Good for Kevin Durant's legacy. One of my favorite topics, Kevin Durant's legacy. One of my favorite topics. Kevin Durant's legs. I can't wait. I hope they run into the Warriors again. That'd be great. That'd be great. Great theater. Okay. Hank, do you want to talk a little golf? Yeah. Great golf. The fifth major. I'm very, I'm very interested to see what you have in that bag of yours. We'll do that after Cal Raleigh. But how is well no we'll talk about the trip after you want to talk about the fifth major yeah traps What'd you see? Great turn specifically full 13 14 15. It was more like 15. I was I was I won't even say asleep

But I was I was watching all day and I didn't leave my couch It was so fucking hot out like too hot to even want to go outside. Mm-hmm So I was locked in. Yeah, it was I was listening. I was actively listening Like whole 16 17. What do you mean actively listening? Like I was listening. I wasn't necessarily watching Uh-huh. I wasn't asleep. I don't know that I was a hundred percent conscious But yeah 15 16, but I was back for 17, 18. You're browning out. Tommy Fleetwood, it was, I loved the Travelers. I went, I mean, we went in 2015 with Barso with Keegan

was the People's golfer. We followed him around for a couple of days. I was Jim Renner. That was 2014. Oh. 2015 Jim Renner was no longer on the PGA Tour. Keegan was People's golfer 2.0 so he followed him around the Travelers but it's like you know only event they have in New England it's great that Keegan like whatever

whatever reason he won a couple years ago set the scoring record there turns it up for the home crowd but it was a great like Tommy Fleetwood great dude great golfer super fun to watch has never won on the PGA Tour even though He's really good and always you know I think he had like what 10 or 13 top 10 finishes without winning one 42 top 10 finishes 40 to a PGA Tour event never won a PGA Tour event so it was like It's insane that he's never won a PGA Tour event. It was a great like whoever wins this this is gonna be good I honestly felt as as you know cool as it was for Keegan. I felt really bad for Tommy Fleetwood Yeah, I don't really feel bad for Tommy Fleetwood. He choked

That's a choke that I was rooting for Keegan Bradley, I don't want to feel ashamed about rooting for key I was yelling USA at my TV. Yeah, that's fair. You know, like I, okay, I'm sorry, Tommy Fleetwood didn't win. I hope he does at some point. Um, but I, I'm not going to go as far as to be like, Oh man, I feel so bad. This kind of takes away from the moment. No, fuck that. I wanted Keegan Bradley to win. And when he hit that approach to what, like four feet and then Tommy Fleetwood hit his a mile away and then putted

and then left himself beyond Keegan Bradley's ball to give him a read a perfect read at the putt I was pumped about all that that was good listen everything that happens from this point on in golf is a setup for the Ryder Cup right and now there's a lot there's a lot of talks with the Ryder Cup he's's the captain Keegan Bradley. He's a captain right now he was he would be a playing captain people are saying they might bring in tiger to be the Captain captain the captain captain because playing captain might get complicated But he's Keegan's playing so well at those conversations are happening, which is awesome. Yeah, I I Think a playing captain is an issue. No

Why not? Well, I mean every other sport has playing captains Yeah, but not necessarily that are like deciding me but The derrach eater played that's a different I'm just setting the lineup. I'm just saying is that Right different different What a captain called captain if he if he is a playing captain that means that he can't ride around in a golf court court with like a little Headset in and a walkie-talkie and talk about God knows what for four hours No, he can do that still when his rounds over. Yeah, so what's the issue here? I don't have an issue with it either I'm just saying that sounds like people people know people in the golf media world There are saying it might be an issue. I say put the C on his chest and put him out there

I do too you look at hockey all the captains play Well, the golf media world is also pretty soft at times for sure There was I saw some people being like Tommy Fleetwood deserve to win. No, he didn't he choked. Yeah, I Wanted him to win. I was hoping that he would get the monkey off his bat back but he choked and Keegan Bradley was electric going down the stretch and, uh, Tommy Fleetwood, he did have a good on Saturday. They asked him about it. He in there like you're the, you're the top player to not win a PGA tour event in the last 40 years. Uh, because again, he's had 42 top 10 finishes, 28 top five finishes, five third places, six

runner ups. He's made 135 out of 159 cuts. He's basically in every single tournament. He was like, well, at least some number one in something. So good for him. If you want to blame somebody for all this, you can blame Rory McElroy. You see what Rory said? Yes mm-hmm they say what Rory said yes yes so they interviewed Rory after his round was over and it looked like Tommy Fleetwood was gonna win the tournament and they asked him your thoughts on Tommy Fleetwood it's been a long time coming for him on the PGA tour he said yeah Tommy's been a great player for a long time and he's more than due

or he was more than due so yeah he's got so much talent and so much ability and obviously it's great to see him get over the line Before the tournaments. Oh, yeah, not bad guy. Not great. This is why he doesn't talk to the media Yeah Yeah, ah Find me hottest. I just tried on me that I just tried me hottest out there. It's a very difficult I had a question for you guys Do you guys think it's a little weird that the Panthers are like mocking the Oilers to such a crazy extent? I Say go for no. I say you got a nice you beat him twice. I was asking if it's yeah

But that's the thing they beat him twice like they it does feel like they're Going a little extra hard. I don't maybe there was more bad blood what I think when you you've you've won a cup before I Just you just you everything's a blur. I'm not saying we can have I'm not saying bad or wrong. I'm saying weird I'm asking is it weird like I it it feels like maybe something happened that we don't know I think they don't like each other the Panthers don't like any team that they play but I'll agree with you on this one Big cat that when you win a Stanley Cup, at least in my personal experience, winning a Stanley cup, uh, I felt more animosity and more like double bird fuck you to all the other teams in my conference, right? Like the natural rivals that you go through and then you win the Stanley cup and it's like,

you're not that fixated on the team that you just be, it's great. And they beat them twice. Like it would be one thing if it was like the Oilers had beaten him twice, then the Panthers beat him. Again, don't, I don't care. I think it's fun to start rivalries and all that stuff. I was just saying more weird that like, why are they so obsessed with the oil? Did I miss something? I was almost like curious. Did I miss some story about shit talking or like one of the Oilers players said something that's unforgivable to the Panthers. So when you think about like having more that animosity and the fuck you energy towards the guys in your conference, they did start a rivalry with Edmonton over the last two, since they played them twice. Yeah. They've got that history so now they're like... But they beat them twice. I know but that's what I'm

saying they've got that history with them so now they're more focused on be like hey fuck you Edmonton. It's not rivalry though. It's not and they're letting them know beat him. Yeah beat him twice. I just I saw did you guys see Gully Bob had a great quote. I like that. He's the humble king. He said When asked about how he celebrates, it's definitely a fun time, but I don't know. I'm a little different. I celebrate a little different I'm not over excited about the things as I said I feel humble and appreciative for the opportunity. Yeah, that's such a classic great quote. Yeah, it's great rank rank all the champions from this year Okay, all the major so the Dodgers the Eagles the Panthers Duke the Thunder Duke basketball I do not win they did it was Florida that one Duke didn't win. Yeah. Oh What max look at that is googling is googling and he's like look up Bob Ross

And it's just an 87 year old pushing us Okay, yeah, sorry sorry I thought I was what did you guys see it sounds like my neighbor's name I would do in 2025 or we do in just this this calendar year. So Officially because we want to do Dodgers put on a card. Yeah get people pissed Dodgers Eagles Panthers Thunder Florida basketball, Ohio State football. Okay, Rory McElroy okay I'm gonna go Dodgers number one mmm I'm gonna go I'm gonna go I might go Panthers number one okay so let's go Dodgers are big okay you go then Panthers two yeah

Panthers two so Dodgers won Panthers to Let's see Florida basketball is pretty awesome. I Might put Florida basketball. I might put Florida basketball to Know you know what? I think the Eagles should be number two. No, I was I was hoping they would be lower than that I mean they they beat like a hurt Chiefs team numbers Jones, it's Jones didn't play half the fucking okay. All right Um, I go Dodgers Panthers, Florida basketball Ohio State football Thunder LSU baseball LSU baseball

Eagles Rory McElroy, right? All right. Make that unquote let people Pissed about best champions best champions of the year that feels I think if the Dodgers played any of those teams they Dodgers in five. Oh, how do the Eagles you also have have Alcara's? Yep. He was awesome great list. That's a great list Yeah, that's a great list. Hey, wait, you never answered is it the Sixers year? I Don't know. I mean think about it. East is wide. Yeah, wide open. Celtics don't have Tatum. Pacers don't have Halliburton. Knicks don't have a head coach. You guys are good. We, I don't know if Embiid is walking. What does that mean? I know, I haven't seen a picture of him walking.

Are you reporting something we don't know? I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I haven't seen a picture of him. Are you reporting something? We don't know. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I don't know Okay, well and beat has not been cleared to walk Sure, I'll beat it's like a it's like a two-year-old Joe and beat is taking his first step. Yeah We need AI of baby Joe and be taking his first step he's ready to play Zach spelling back here is just, is just incredible. He just spelled and bead. I am B hell. Yeah. Zach shout out to LSU baseball though. Champions are crazy. Last game coach out by the umpire coastal coastal's manager gets

kicked out and then their bench coach gets kicked out in the first inning arguing balls and strikes. Yeah. The ump, the ump falls a flopped. He flopped, but he should have, he was embarrassed. If you get embarrassed like that as an up, it should be like retroactive. Everyone gets to stay in the game because that was a loser move by him. I got to say great job. Next up up. Cause that, that ump came in the game. Cause that was a loser move by him. I got to say great job. Next up up. Cause that, that ump came in and he was trying to like stand in between the manager and the home plate umpire.

It's always like somebody's job is to like intercept the argument. He immediately falls over. And then the next guy was in great position to back them up and stepped in to handle that duty and keep them away from the home plate umpire. So great job by the umps. That's what we came to see today. We absolutely wanted to make sure that we saw them was the ump show but yeah, LSU did feel like they were a team of destiny Also crazy. They played this game in the middle of the afternoon. Yeah, that was wild

I know there was game seven there was Sunday night baseball But you got to have a championship game can't be played in the middle of the afternoon I agree I was hoping that coastal was gonna win this one so we could get a meaningful game tomorrow Just meaningful sports. It would have been nice to have one game. Yeah one game By the way, we should update real quick because we're gonna get to our cow Raleigh interview He had a pretty big weekend at Wrigley Also, Sammy Sosa was back for the first time in a long time on Friday Which I don't know the Cubs did it like secretively and then it word got

out, which was kind of weird, but he's getting inducted into the Cubs Hall of Fame later this year. That's good. But this was like a trial run of sprinting in. No, they, they, they had him just walk in and made sure that there was a video of Rick. It's giving him a hug, getting out of the SUV. So nice moment. But yeah, Cal Raleigh hit four home runs this weekend. Crazy. So when we get to our interview with him, which was great I think we did all of our on pace stuff for his 27 home runs as of Thursday He had four more so he's got 31 home runs. He is now on pace for 67 home runs Which is pretty fucking insane. That's pretty good pretty insane

Which is pretty fucking insane. That's pretty good pretty insane. Yeah, we think Otani face of Major League Baseball Calralli Calralli is the ass. Yeah, he's the ass of the MLB. Listen. I went to the game today His dumper is like seeing it in baseball pants. It's a dumper. I was showing to my buddy over the weekend I was like, yeah, we interviewed this guy Cal Raleigh He they call him big dumper because you got a giant My friend was like, his ass isn't that big. I was like, dude, let me put you on his ass real quick. Yeah, no, when he's got his baseball pants on, he's got a fucking dump, an absolute dump. Okay, should we do who's back the week?

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John Wilkes. Hank and PFT. My good friend Hank. Yep. PFT Enterprises. And me and Zach. And so it's gonna be three teams, which we feel like that's a good,

cause when we do like, if we did five solos, it would be tough to pick Mount Rushmore. You know what, lesser men than me and Hank would complain about being teamed up with the other one because we did finish last and second to last last season. But this is just a great, great comeback story for you. What a great opportunity we have, Hank. Yeah. And PFT and I were, we're in lockstep where we're kind of all eyes focused on, on the internet invitational. So this is just another way for us to get closer. Yeah. Work together.

No bickering. No bickering. No bickering. Yeah, this is gonna bring us closer than anything. Like the thing about me and Hank is that when people say that we get into fights, it's all a bit. And we're never actually in fights with each other. Yeah.

You guys just don't get it. Yeah. So we don't even have to like debate. We'll just know. It's kind of like let's read each other's minds. No, we should debate a little bit. It's gonna be awesome So we're gonna do it. Please submit debate. Why not? Did you absolutely debate?

Please submit Hank's already beat a piece of shit more ideas Mount Rushmore ideas What you want to hear we've done a lot of them. So ninth Mount Rushmore season Covered him a lot of them. Mm-hmm of them. But I can't wait for my water water. I can't. I can't wait for a color Mount Rushmore of yellow things. I can't wait for a color guy. I think we're gonna have to lead with the color. Color. Color ones are the best. Colors are great. Zach, are you ready for this? Zach on Friday, we had him do. Were you here for

his pistachio ice cream? No. Yeah. We asked him to like you here for his pistachio ice cream? No, yeah, we asked him to like on the spot Mount Rushmore of ice creams and he oh I heard I was Pistachio, so that's a problem. You listen the whole show. Yeah, the the boys driving back from Pebble. We listened Oh, oh cuz I heard I also I might have fallen asleep during that I heard a rumor Hank that that you were wondering when we're going to be interviewing Cal Raleigh. Well, that was, that was the, that was the PMT group. Maybe it was today that we're going to be the text was the memes memes memes is on my name is on the pit. What is crazy? Who are you running tomorrow? I said Cal Raleigh and then you text him on the side saying, when are we interviewing Cal Raleigh? I memes tweet about Cal Raleigh like a hundred times.

What's the game plan for interviews today? Just Cal Raleigh from Monday show. Yeah. So interviews today I thought that and you said Cal Raleigh for Monday. Yeah. I thought that meant you're interviewing Cal Raleigh today. Again, we interviewed him last Thursday. He was here We I was you guys blessed True true true true true true true true and maybe he came in and then he was gonna do the interview like the way that Was worded what's the gameplay for interviews today? Yeah, and you answered Carl Reilly So is that your only who's back is just a show a show announcement. Uh, Sammy Sosa, Keegan Bradley Karen Reed's back. Karen Reed. Yes. What happened with Karen Reed? Uh, she, she is innocent. She got,

she got ruled innocent. She got off. Yeah. Good for her. Good for her. Good for her. Yeah. Reed's back. So that's why women never get off. Yeah. I can't wait to watch another Netflix documentary about it. I do think there will be another one and I'm excited to watch it. So was it a hung jury or was it a hung jury the first time and this time not so it was innocent. Yeah, not guilty. She got charged for I think operating a vehicle on the influence, but not charged for murder. So now Brad Marsh on I mean Brad watching Brad Marsh on are the cops going to get charged? I don't think so think so so who's gonna be no one else is gonna be charged with this guy's death yeah find the dog ah Brad back Brad Marshawn dog find the dog find the dog find the dog yeah the dog leads

you to everything yeah that just makes no sense they just gave away the dog yeah no it's and that they can't find it yeah wait they've looked for the dog yes oh I didn't know they looked for the dog Yes, so they killed the dog. Yes. Okay, that's fucked up. I know Just Brad Marshawn is just putting on a clinic celebrating the cup He celebrates well celebrates so well trolling like he's like, you know, not a big social media guy that he wins a cup And he's just like trolling Instagram stories party Yeah, he was doing the random people at the bar

Oh, it's just like and doing the around the he went around the table and just said thanks Like he would just post a picture of like, you know player be like, thanks Sabres. Here's Seth Jones. Thanks blackhawks It's just going around. Yeah, and I do not think he posts very often if at all. No, yeah No, I followed him on Instagram I even realized he I did and then I'm so nice. He's just been the most active guy Oh, man. Yeah crowd surfing with the Stanley Cup at 11 If you've been to 11, it is quite something that might be the number one place to celebrate a championship Mm-hmm. It's I don't even understand how 11 exists. It's a it's a club

It's I don't even understand how 11 exists. It's a it's a club That's also a strip club, but not a strip club But if you're sitting in 11 for more than five minutes like a super hot stripper will come up and be like hey you want A lap dance, but it also it's still not a strip club Is that a good way to explain it to see everywhere, but it is a strip club It's not yeah, no, I know I know I know you think of strip club You think of like all right you go there and all that's happening is strippers. Eleven is a club. Yeah. But it just happens that strippers do come up to you every five minutes being like, do you want to lap dance? It's cause it's Miami. Yeah. It's like kind of classy because it's

Miami. And it also doesn't really like, I think I went to 11 once at like, I think I was calling to try to get a table and I was like, we're going to roll in at like what I think I was calling to try to get a table I was like we're gonna roll in at like 1 a.m. And the guy like laughed at me. He's like, okay, like Barely open at 1 like we're just starting It's like you're like then you leave it like 5 a.m. And it's around the block line Can I went to 11 together one time? Hell? Yeah. Oh, yeah, you know open 24 hours a day. It's fucking it's quite something I would say probably number one place to celebrate Stanley Cup Yeah, I mean PFT got to celebrate in Vegas. I feel like that's that's probably too. But yeah, that's nice

Eleven is is definitely up there. Yeah. Yeah, Hockesson was cool. No strippers. That's the one thing I'll say Again, they might not even be strippers at 11 They might just like you so much that they want to give you a lap dance It could have been over the top if there were boobs It basically is it yeah, it's it's basically a strip club, but you don't feel like it's strip club So then you think like oh man these really hot chicks like like me Mm-hmm the the one time I went to 11 I got so drunk that I left with my girlfriend and I told her that I can't leave with her because I have a girlfriend

That's such a good guy move I'm not supposed to be doing Okay good who's back thank you great who's back. you. My who's back of the week is the USA. Yeah. Because we vanquished our foes, Saudi Arabia, Trinidad and Tobago, and Haiti are big rivals in soccer. Nice. So all three, these were teams that don't like each other very much. No love lost. Beat Saudi Arabia, Arabia on Thursday, one nil and then beat Haiti two to one. So now we advanced to the gold cup. I don't know,

whatever the fuck the next round is maybe against Mexico. Okay. So big stuff for us. That's huge. I really don't give a shit, but I do care when the U S does play Mexico. Then I will care. Yeah. Cause I just, that's the one time I tap into US soccer and really give a fuck about it. I just want to see the team playing good, because it's the last tournament that we have before the whole World Cup tune-ups and the World Cup next year.

Got it. So yeah, suck it Haiti. Suck it Saudi Arabia. Never had a chance. Never had a chance. Listen, beating a heated rival like Saudi Arabia, 1-0 in a tournament that means everything, we're on the right foot

Yeah, poke Scott the boys rolling. Absolutely poke in Poke in yeah, well, I think we're poking right now, but if he loses to Costa Rica or Mexico, it's a patch It's pocketino poke poach pocahontina poke. It doesn't rhyme with coach poach. I don't know. I Listen, I'm not I Watch I watch the World Cup I'm not I'm not tuned into the conca calf gold cup unless we lose and then I'll be like ha I also like that we played against Saudi Arabia and the conca calf gold cup. Yeah makes our neighbors. Yeah

Okay, my who's talking calf Conca guy, it's the biggest term in the world Federative. I Don't know. I mean it's for it's it's the most prestigious soccer organization in FIFA with teams such as Haiti Saudi Arabia you go and Trinidad and to beg we beat two teams Five nil when we beat Trinidad and Tobago Confederation of North Central America and Caribbean Association football like Saudi Arabia. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Saudi Arabia was just like, hey, can we get in? Yeah, no problem. All right. My who's back of the week is World War Three.

We're doing it again, boys. I think this is the fifth World War Three that's happened in the last four years. Getting the gang back back together. Yeah The strategy of just not saying anything online is really worked out for all the previous World War three Because when everyone freaks out and says oh World War three is happening and then in two weeks There's not a World War three and you look like an idiot jinx anything here. I'm not You're you're this is cold over again. No, it's not We've all ain't gonna be World War three, buddy We've all thought the same thing which is World War three has been it started like six different times I just don't want to say that it that this is not starting now World War threes have been overrated

There's been like a hunt. We're on World War nine now ten. We're on World War ten What did you say if they cancel the NCAA tournament? I'd inject myself in COVID I did end up getting covered like five different times. So that was a mistake. That was a big mistake It's not World War three yet. It's just I So sick everyone saying World War three just started. It's just running back to Middle East war that we do every 11 years Yeah, dude it World War three. Oh, it's gonna be World War three. What are we gonna do? What should we do on Monday? Should we go to work? Yeah, I gotta say I've been doing a lot of reading about the operation with the b2 bombers, dude

Those guys flying there and back without Stopping is badass. Yeah, we had the refueling planes up in the air And the guy tweeting about it before in Missouri being like, yo, I just saw some B2 bombers outside my house. Yeah. He had the, he broke World War III before anyone else. Shout out to B2 bomber because we've had that for forever and it's still untouchable. They didn't see it on radar and then they didn't even see the other.

By the way, this is what we did was quite literally the plot of Top Gun 2. Yeah. Which goes to show you that we didn't need f-18s and Top Gun 2 like I love that movie But if most people are watching that you're like, why the fuck are they using? Fourth generation fighters instead of a fifth generation f-35 or some b2 bombers. Isn't that what they had in the very beginning? What do you mean like the first scene in the movie? No, that was a that was a experimental plane that hasn't been cleared yet. Got it Yeah, where he went like Mach 11 and then ejected walked into bars. I can I get some milk?

Yeah, those those bomb those those planes are fucking sick. They are alright But yeah that I just I just always know World War three is happening when I tweet something about sports and in My replies people be like dude, how could you this World War three is about to happen? Yeah And then also my who's back is Jonathan Tate. He's back. He signed with the Winnipeg Jets, his hometown team. What's been going on with him? So kind of a mystery.

People thought it was long COVID. And then it was kind of like some type of autoimmune, like always being tired. I think I have that. Something he couldn't figure out. But I'm happy he's able to now play again Hopefully end his career the right way because it really sucked that he was You know, it didn't it just sucked the way it ended in Chicago after so many good years

So yeah, he's back and I'm rooting for him same. It'd be awesome. He's the fucking man Yeah, he is the man you played golf with him. I didn't play golf with him He was in the group behind us. I think all for the same time as hole in one and then he came out this after oh That's playing golf. Yeah. Yeah. No, he is the man. He's the absolute man. So I'm hoping he He does well and stays healthy Okay, Zack. You got a who's back? I do who's back a week for you. Okay real quick my who's back of the week would have to be out there in Houston, Texas over the weekend Uh, I don't know if you guys are familiar with Morgan Wall and the country singer. Mm-hmm familiar with him So Morgan Wallen started he's got this I'm the problem tour going on right now

He does these tunnel walks before every show, you know different celebrities different guests traveled him into the stadium into the onto the stage in Houston. He went with this Roger Clemens Drake and It just I just feel like that was a fantastic star-studded way to start weekend tour sold out It's at the arena where the Texans play. I think he's so back You know has he's had some controversies, you know throwing a chair over to the ledge They're taking back to God's country with SNL and I just was curious of you What other ones?

I just got those ones right no other I think I think those oh we went out to a bar during covid. Yeah, yeah that one There's a c-word one. Yeah, the cobalt one was bad I didn't know if I could say that one yeah You can say the c-word yeah, okay, and do you guys house? Do you guys have like a two-man you'd like to enter a stadium with you have like a two? One a one B. You'd like to travel into a stage with yeah, hey Damn it so he had Roger Clemens and Drake with him.

He did. I think Stone Cold and Dog the Bounty Hunter. I'd go Tom Brady and Lil Wayne. Hmm. I think I'd go Paul Bissonnette and Bonnie Blue. That'd be nice. Max, you got a pair? Shane Victorino.

Yeah. He doesn't even like Shane Victorino that much. I saw Shane Victorino in the airport last week. That's awesome. Oh, that's so I didn't say hi I was too scared. Oh, that's a good story though Maybe Jason Kelsey and Brian Dawkins Brian Dawkins for sure that'd be Yeah, hype the people up. That'd be real sick. All right, Good Who's back? Morgan Wallen's back. Did you guys see, by the way-

Is that Drake's first public appearance since The Beef? No. I feel like I haven't seen him anywhere. No, he's been around. He's been like, kind of active. I mean, he does his weird gambling stuff. I feel like I've seen those clips. Yeah, just some streams. Yeah, he's been streaming his gambling streams. Yeah. What a loser.

No, but there I don't even know what. What is offshore? Yeah, it's like offshore. Like, yeah. But he's around offshore like like little St. James Island. Not that offshore. Okay closer England got it Also is show a back or no, is he pit he's pitching one inning he's opening. I don't like this He's opening and James would took him yard vertically today vertically. Yeah, the highest pop fly I've ever seen my Say it was so high Mookie Betts lost it went into the Sun Pft was telling us about this and he was like you gotta find this you got you gotta see this this pop fly

It's the highest infield. There's live ever seen in my life shockingly. There was no replay of this high Where on the internet you remember Jaden Daniels handoff and we Exactly this is James Woods version of the handoff. Yeah, but Yes, this is exactly what I was talking about. This is James Wood's version of the handoff. Yeah. But yeah, no, Shohei, he looked pretty good. He was throwing some good pitches out there. I want to see him play pitch more than one inning. Yeah, I would too.

Kal Raleigh, AL MVP. Shohei's probably going to win the NL MVP, right? Kal Raleigh, let's see. What is the? We're going to get to Shorber. Well, I want Shorber to win because I've been on it, but I don't. And that's also NL

So also how about how about Shohei breaking up a fight that he was in that his teammates like got into to defend him Yeah, so that was a pretty cool guy I like having the Padres and the Dodgers hate each other because I'm just looking forward to the postseason with those two But yeah They they plunked Shohei and then Shohei tried to be the one that broke up the entire fight that got started on his behalf. Yeah, good guy plus 550 still so For Cal Raleigh big dumper. We're gonna be talking about it. He's gonna hit 67 whole months as a catcher. It's crazy Yeah, I put that bet in the second

He left the studio when I when I I love to watch him leave and I was like that ass is gonna be that's an MVP ass It's an MVP ass. All right, let's get to the interview with Cal Raleigh in studio. Before we get to Cal Raleigh, Pardon My Take is sponsored by BetterHelp. Men today face immense pressure to perform, to provide, and keep it all together. So it's no wonder that six million men in the US

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Yeah, it's, I mean, it's more Big Dumper, Dumper, Dumpee, you know, than it is anything else. So Cal's kind of, you know, thinking of the past. I would imagine like too, the nickname Big Dumper, it's one of those things like you get it given to you. There's really nothing you can do about it. But I'll say this, like it's a little bit of a weird nickname, but it's hard in sports to have like a unique new nickname. And that one's as unique as it gets. Yeah.

I mean, it's not the one, you know, you draw up the one you You think you would ever get but it's kind of you said you know Not a lot of people get actual real nicknames like that so you know you take what you can get Yeah, and then we get the big dumper goes poo poo whenever you hit a home run which I fucking love that tweet Yeah, yeah, as soon as that guy that Mariners fan sent me that tweet I sent it to you and I was just like every time he hits a home run I'm just gonna think about this in my head big dumper goes poo poo I saw that one and then there was another one somebody said it's like when he hits two home runs. It's a taking a deuce or double dumper deuce or

I mean, yeah, it's probably not the nickname you would have liked Did you have another nickname before that one got forced upon you? I'm one like that. I mean, you know people always kind of you know, they've always said talked about you know How big my butt is everything? Yeah, it was never really anything like that. So And the funny thing was the guy who? Jared Kellan like he's the one who came up with it He had never even called me that or said that to me before I mean he always made fun of me But like he said that in a tweet or something and just it blew up kind of took off What did you when in your career were you like? Oh, I do have a fat ass. Oh, I've known for it's it's been a long

Ever since like high school. It's just been something that's like it's like an eyesore just completely sticks out. No, it's good though Yeah, generates a lot of power. Whatever works. It's an asset. It's just been something that's like it's like an eyesore just completely sticks out. No, it's good though Yeah generates a lot of power. Yeah, whatever works. It's an asset. It's really good for you Yeah, when they when they unveiled the new see-through pants last year, we're like, oh shit So we were talking about this the other day on the show But the baseballs are apparently different this year. The seams are a little bit higher. The drag they've been talking about. Yeah there's a lot of drag on the ball. Did you notice that as a catcher? I mean it's such a small difference if there is one so obviously as a hitter you want a little less you'd rather see balls going a little further so yeah I haven't noticed anything quite yet, but

I mean, you have 27 home runs, right? Whatever, whatever they're doing with them right now is fine. Yeah, it's working for you. Is it? I mean, it is crazy. 27 home runs leads major league base. We're taping this on Thursday, uh, on June 19th. So we don't know what's gonna happen in the weekend because we're going to run this next week. But like catchers don't hit that many home runs you you're just an anomaly where is it is it most of the time catchers are just because of the toll of catching they just don't have the power or like how are you able to do it yeah i mean there's a lot of factors right i mean obviously catching your first priorities

taking care of the pitcher defense it's always usually glove first and then the bat second you don't get to play as often because a lot of guys, you need that extra day off or maybe your bats not getting the lineup as often. So it's just a very taxing position too on the body and the mind. So getting in every day is tough and a lot of guys, like I said,

it's a glove first position. Anything up the middle, those guys usually have to focus a little more on defense. So It's a it's a it can be tough sometimes Yeah Yeah How much extra prep do you have to put in as a catcher that that you look at you see your teammates like a first baseman? Right fielder they you know, they show up they know what their job is They do you know some advanced scouting know where they need to play in position, but their job is show up, do pretty much the same thing that they normally do, step up to play in mash. And then you, you have to put in, I would

imagine a lot more time than them where you're going over, you know, any sort of scouting for, for all the batters, all that stuff. Like how much more time do you spend as a catcher than an average player? Yeah, I mean, you know, at least half my times, you know, put in to, you know, worry about game calling, worry about the pitchers, things like that, meetings. So a lot of things that don't directly involve me. So that's just kind of how it is. And, you know, you've learned to kind of deal with it

and kind of set your routine that way. So yeah, usually the first day of series, You know, you've learned you'd learn to kind of deal with it and kind of set your routine that way. So Yeah, the usually the first day of series. They're a lot longer just because we got you know meetings we got You know scouting reports stuff like that. We got to go over so it's it can be a little time-consuming at times Yeah, can I bring up a sore subject? Yeah, alright, so the the playoff loss to the Houston Astros a few years ago the 18th inning game How bad did that suck as a catcher marathon? Yeah, I know I think that was one of the first years They did the guy in second rule. Yeah with guys starting second in next trainings, but in the playoffs, they don't do that. So And that was pretty pitch clock too. So it was um

That was such a long game. Yeah, it was was two games in one. It was a marathon You know started it like one and then it went all the way to eight or something like six and six and some change So it was it was a really long game But with the general know how it was you really at the time weren't it didn't have any you know afterwards I felt it but yeah with all the general and being a playoff game and everything didn't really it afterwards I felt it, but with all the adrenaline being a playoff game and everything, didn't really feel it at the time. I would imagine the next morning after you wake up just legs killing. It was a long day.

Did you just always feel like you just did your first squat exercise for the first time in a month? Are your legs just always sore? It's just one of those things when you build up all that tolerance, it's just, you know, after a while it just becomes normal. Yeah. You definitely notice though, like, uh, after some day games, they can be a little, a little more tired just because you're not getting as much rest.

And sometimes you got the heat and the sun and things like that, uh, playing in certain places, you can feel a little more just because, you know, emotionally, you know, it'll take a Take a toll on you a little bit mentally. Yeah, like those games I always say like games in Houston Boston New York playing in the places like that where where you feel like the team's you know The pressure is constantly on and the fans are on top of you and it's hot those take a little more out of you Yeah more so than some other places. How does it work with pitchers? Are you is it's hot those take a little more out of you yeah more so than some other places how does it work with pitchers are you is it just like pitcher to pitcher there's some pitchers that you know that you they're gonna

want to pitch their way and you're not really gonna call the game much and then there's some that like hey he's giving me the keys here like I'm calling it for him yeah I mean everybody's different you know there's some guys that they they're really involved and you know what they want to call and how they want to attack hitters and their plan. And there's some guys that are just like, I don't care. I'm telling whatever you put down, like you got it, take it. And, um, you know, it is funny how, how different guys are. So, you know, like I said, a lot of the guys do, you know, put a lot of trust in

me, which, you know, I, uh, so I try to take, take a lot of pride and calling a game and doing the scouting. So, um, we also have a lot of young guys too. So kind of help them along and, you know, learn the ropes and some guys have done a really good job and kind of take ownership in that. So what about an EFIS? Are you going to call an EFIS? Uh, George Kirby threw a knuckleball a couple of years ago. Um, it was it just impossible to catch or? It was disgusting. Well, it was Tim Wakefield had just passed away

that morning or the night before. And it was the last game of the season and we had just gotten eliminated from contention the day before. So he's like, I'm gonna throw a knuckleball, try to find a way to mix it in today. And he threw a Cory Seager and it was, I mean, if you find the video is disgusting, it's unlike pitching to NJ all that stuff. Like, it

was, why did he throw it more? I don't know. I mean, he was on the shelf earlier this year. I mean, it might be a real pitch, you know? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, he got a whiff out of it. He swung and missed. That's huge. I almost went I almost missed it myself. So yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I mean he got a whiff out of it. He's swung and missed. That's huge I almost what I almost missed it myself. So yeah, I just I never is it like way harder to catch for a knuckleballer I

Don't I only know if I ever that's the only only real one. I think I've ever caught in a game You're one for one. You're perfect One for one. Yeah Maybe there's we had a guy in the Meyer leagues He maybe threw a couple he was a big dude like six eight three three bills like that's a funny Let's get that guy in major league. Yeah, JT Salters. Okay, let's get called I remember the the Red Sox when they had Wakefield pitching They used to have Doug Mirabilli as his like specific catcher and one time did they sign him?

He was like a he maybe retired or something, but they signed him. And then he had a police escort from Logan airport to the game to get him there for first pitch in time. It was like a different, I, I, maybe you can tell me like what's different about catching a knuckle ball. I mean, you just don't know what the ball is going to do, right? I mean, it's kind of the same way with like a fork ball. You know, there's no consistent spin. There's no rhyme or reason of what the ball is going to do.

So you just have no idea. So, you know, at least on, you know, curve balls, sliders, you know what the ball is generally going to do in that direction. But with that, the pitcher doesn't really know what it's going to do. It could take off right, left,

down like you're really just playing goalie. You know, you're not really even like like Logan Gilbert, really just playing goalie. Yeah. You're not really even like, like Logan Gilbert, one of our pitchers, he throws a splitter, it's more a four ball type, but he calls it a splitter. And I just, you just don't know, I can't, I'm more, just like I said, trying to keep it in front

than I am trying to catch it. Yeah, have you ever forgotten what pitch a pitcher's about to throw as he's delivering it? Oh, good question. No, sometimes in warmups, I'm not paying attention because they'll give their little sign, like, you know, with their glove, a little action. Yeah.

And sometimes I get a little nervous and I'll kind of like bail out of the way. But that's been pretty rare, so. That would happen to me all the time. I think this is a slider. Yeah. It's a little easier now with the pitch calm because they're yelling in your ear.

Yeah. You can at least hear it. So I got a couple dumb questions. Yeah. It's a little easier now with the pitch column, because they're yelling in your ear. Yeah. You can at least hear it. So I got a couple dumb questions. One of them is about pitchcom. Do you still paint your nails? No, I don't do that anymore. Do you miss that? I mean, I don't miss the painting of them,

because it would make a mess everywhere. But they did start making some sticky stickers. OK. So that was a little easier on the nails, rather than having to do whiteout on your nails. Do you miss though like calling the game with the with the fingers and stuff kind of badass? Yeah, I mean you throw the one down for a fastball and just like here it comes. It was a lot simpler I I don't miss the Because you always say to change up signs with runner second because guys are stealing signs as part of the game

I don't miss doing that because it got really complicated. And guys now with all the cameras and the league guys, I mean, guys would all their scouts would have everybody sign. So they would know, all right, this guy comes in, he does second sign, shake the first or this guy does, you know, last sign first sign. So guys would already know. So you'd be constantly having to change them and it would be taken too long between the game. so I don't miss that

part with pitchcom but when nobody on base you don't really need the pitchcom yeah nobody's out there so it's obviously quicker to do it with the fingers yeah I think the pitchcom all right another dumb question are there any umps to get like a little too close we're like oh I got this guy tonight he's gonna be like literally riding my back some I mean yeah they want to get as close they can Yeah, it's kind of like catchers. They want to get closer. They could try to steal strikes Same thing for umpires. They want to try to get as close to can see every pitch and some guys, you know A lot of the older guys, you know, they'll give you that kind of like pushback

So like, you know, especially if a ball they like it's coming their way I'm set up a little bit this way and they're kind of exposed They'll give me that like push in the back You got it. You got a reminder. Hey, you're pushing me. They go You're not trying to do on purpose right they get flinchy back there, right? And then a little nervous and then last dumb question about umps You ever fart on it up? I mean, yeah I've logged too many innings

Not as an up ever noticed to let one like dude. What was that? Nobody's ever said anything. I know. You know that you know when they're thinking it. You know, it's like when you walk in a room and yeah, same thing. I mean, I try not to make it a habit. Yeah. positional, you're compressing your body a lot. Sometimes some just squeaks out. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're, you're squatted down for that long. Bad, bad pregame mill, you know? Yeah. And you were telling me that you have a soft serve machine in the clubhouse in Seattle and, uh, the nutritionist tried to take it away a couple of years ago and you guys had like a mutiny. Yes. This was, I think this was in 21. So it was my rookie year.

So obviously like I come up and think it's the coolest thing ever soft serve machine just the whole room in general's got all the snacks you can think of and Yeah, they it was right after his post all-star break they tried to like sneak it out during the break that way people wouldn't know and Like I said, you would have thought the world was ending wait, so everyone showed up and it just wasn't there I wasn't there and people were pissed., man, and they made it a point and Like it didn't even take I think it took three days to get it back I love that house and and that's the one thing I'll never be taken out of yeah

I think that's what happened with the Braves back when you remember when the Mets had that late late season collapse and the Braves kind Of gradually overtook him in September. Yeah, I think they put the ice cream machine back in before that whole thing started. It's just good vibes having an ice cream machine run. Everyone's happier at work. Nobody, you know, nobody wants a fruit bar around. They want to Yeah, right. What the ice cream machine they don't want. Yeah, I mean, keep people happy, you know, yeah, I have a thanks. I have a personal request on behalf of this podcast. Are you gonna be in the home run Derby? this podcast. Are you going to be in the home run derby? Uh, if they asked me, I think that'd be pretty fun. Okay. I think you should be in the home run. You got a guy, you got to take down. Who is Christian? So you gotta be in it. Uh, he's flirting with it. We cannot let him go poo poo. Yeah. That's a no go for us. No. If he wins the home run derby, we have to eat each other's ass. That's,

that was the rule. Yeah. It was, it's like a, it's like a seven year bet now. Yeah. It was a long time. No, he's never was the rule. Yeah, it's like a it's like a seven-year bet now Yeah, it was a long time. He's been no he's never been in it He got there was the one year where he was like geared up to do it and he hurt his back So if you if listen we were simple we could do the easy way You could just beat him in the home run derby or we do the hard way you could just beat him with a baseball bat Before the home run derbyby whichever one you want to do I think I think be more fun to at least make you guys a little nervous. Okay, I'll be in the derby. Yeah I mean you will you're you're a much better home run header than Christian Yellich is so yeah, don't give him bolts and board

I'm just saying I'm trying to gas my man up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you are. He's a good player though Yeah, he's okay. He's kind of skinny though. He's fine Are you okay with us saying that you should be the MVP because he's obviously going up against judge But I think the catching part of it is insane like you you're you're catching so much I mean, I know you DH a little but it's nuts your glove and your what are you top? Are you top two in throwing guys out? Maybe let me know that up. I think you are I think you're pretty elite at that. You like to show hey Otani of baseball yeah it's crazy yeah yeah oh yeah no leads catchers in stealing eats or yes you only give it up eight stolen bases there

might be more than that really feels like more okay my pictures would probably argue with me but does that when you give up a stolen base is that demoralizing you like fuck no no I mean a lot of that's you know that's the pitchers fault yeah they don't you know they're not quick to the plate yeah and that seems that it seems to be a tales old as time you know pitchers not you know remembering that somebody else is on the base and they just let them take off yeah you can't you can't really do much about it back there So yeah, we try we try to limit them, but you know some guys take their time Okay, how many stolen bases do you have this season? I got eight. That's pretty good I know I think as long as you can steal more bases than guys steal on you. That's that's a plus season, right?

I just I took our manager had the record for a catcher in the season for the Mariners Yeah, and I just I just broke for the Mariners. Yeah. And I just, I just broke it the other day. Oh, hell yes. So we're on, I was going to take the bag and hold it up like Rick. Yeah. Ricky Anderson. Wait, do you have, do you have the green light? Uh, sometimes. So that's not, you do not have the green light. It's like, it's like yellow. It's like, yeah. How many times you've been caught? Two. Okay. Eight for 10 right now. And that's gotta be that. That's a bummer when you come back to the dugout. Yeah, cause it's like, you know, you shouldn't have been stealing there.

Yeah. Slow guy. If it's like, you know, somebody fast, like Hoolie or something, it's like, ah, you know. Yeah. It happens. Yeah, go ahead. May it's like a, you might need to shut it down for a while. Yeah.

You know, I'd like to see you run more. Do you pay attention to the on-pace stats? I don't think so like if if you hit obviously you're at 27 right now Do you ever look that up online be like what am I on pace for this season? Oh, I would be interested in my in my My stolen bases for sure. Let's see that probably be I would imagine Right right around like 15. Yeah 16. Those are good numbers. That's really good. We have way through Yeah, we're close to halfway through. I don't know if we're all the way halfway through. Yeah. Do you look at your home run stats and you're like, you

know, after if you Homer on opening day, you're like, man, I'm on pace for 162 runs. Yeah, we're a little less than halfway. So you are on pace for 50 home runs. That'd be pretty sick. What's better? That or the soul? I'd say the home. I'd say solo basis. How sweet is it to hit a home run? It's gotta be the best feeling ever. It feels good. Yeah.

I mean, rounding the bases, you know, is probably nothing better than sports. Yeah. I mean, for like an actual, like, you know, individual thing, you know, football, you know, you throw a touchdown, you know, there's two people on the end of the play. Great catch, I guess that's fun, but, you know, not a lot of, you know, there's two people on the end of the play great catch I guess that's fun But you know not a lot of people get the circle bases like that, especially in a big moment to yeah

Walk off homers, you know things like that. Is that what's your favorite home run you ever hit? I mean the one the one in 22 when I walked it off against the A's. Yeah send us to the postseason Yeah, that one was pretty uh, that one's badass. Yeah, I mean that one was that's the one you dream about Yeah, like in the backyard you're playing with the will football bat. Yeah, that one was pretty uh, that one's badass. Yeah, I mean that was that's the one you dream about Yeah, like in the backyard you're playing with the wiffle ball bat. Yeah, that's the one Yeah, the by the way the the record for catcher home runs is Javi Lopez So and you're you're ahead of pace on that. So let's do it. Let's get it. He had 42 in 2003 See what we can do or actually no wait Oh, no, Salvador Perez had 48 and 20 21, but he didn't play. I don't think he played as many

I don't think he caught as many games. You're gonna end up catching. Yeah, he he he dh'd a lot though Yeah, well listen a little bit whatever the stats go out. We're gonna make sure that you have number one Well, we'll we'll fine-tune it we can we can really kind of massage the stats for you for now. Yeah. Yeah, we got we do a Fantasy league every year. It's called Dingers only so only home runs count in our fantasy league I think that you might go in the top ten I had two years ago Kind of before you were like a big name and it was it saved my season. Yeah, but by position. It's by yeah It's the simplest fantasy league you could ever create

It's just everyone has nine players and it's just the only status home runs Yeah, and we also started halfway through the season, which that doesn't really make sense What so you haven't even started? No, no, we haven't drafted yet. So actually are you okay with whoever drafts you like? I'll call you and like we'll do it like an NFL draft being like hey you ready to join my Dingers only team Yeah, we'll get a jersey or something. Yeah. Just be like, I'm ready to go, coach. Yeah, I'm ready to hit some home runs.

Value-wise, you might be number one. Yeah. Because if you're in that many home runs as a catcher, that's huge. Positional value, you might be number one in Dingers only. Yeah, catcher. Yeah. It's not a home run position.

So yeah. I have a question about the art of catching and framing pitches Okay Is is there like a limit to how far out of the strike zone a pitch will be that you'll try to frame? Or will you try to frame everything? There's a limit right? I mean something ridiculous, you know, you can't But I mean, I don't know you're trying to try to steal strikes So like, you know borderline, youline pitches that look somewhat good to your eye,

yeah, you're going to frame it. And then there are some where it's just like, all right, no need for that. We can't make this one. Yeah, you got to respect the game a little bit. Is there a frame job that you're most proud of? I don't know. One off the top of my of? I don't know. One off the top of my head.

I don't think so. I mean, it's gotten a lot smaller. I mean, I don't know if you guys read that article that came out about the buffer zone with the umpires. You know, they basically, basically there was a two inch buffer zone that shrunk down to like 0.7. Oh shit. Five inches of a buffer zone

So umpires this year have been Calling a lot more balls just because they're gonna get docked basically because they're getting you know, just like we are as players are getting graded out and see how well they do on their performance and So they've been a lot more tighter this year with with that being introduced. So that's kind of been the thing this year Yeah, how do we feel about the robot? OMS amount? Yeah. Amount on Roboto. We agree. Yeah. I mean, podcast.

I mean, don't like this. You want to keep a little bit of the baseball in it, you know? Yeah. Like a little bit of like you want to see managers and, you know, guys getting ejected, like it's part of the game. So they've taken away with replays. No more, you know, it's not a lot of arguing going on. Yeah. It's at home plate. And no more, you know, it's not a lot of arguing going on Yeah, it's at home plate and if you take that away, it's like There's not you know, you need a little bit excitement in the game

You want to see you guys throwing throwing rosin bags and yeah Yeah a little trot that the manager does when he goes out, you know, like the short little steps But he's moving his arms like he's running right and then he's like collecting his thoughts and gets to home plate just explodes on The up that yeah, that's part of the beauty of the baseball and it also like we've our take is simple that if you took away all refs and umps from all sports You're basically eliminating like 50% of conversations guys can have with each other like yeah Like if your team loses you have to be able to blame a human being, you know, you know, you know

You gotta be like all that robot get pissed at thatpire you want to at least blame somebody yeah right yeah so I mean there's the human element of it so I mean you know it's not a bunch of robots out there playing you know you don't want a bunch of robots umpiring yeah you know I don't even know where the where the systems at yet I mean you know if it's off by a little bit if if it's not, if it's perfect, you know, and like two is like, you're going to get everybody's size right. Like this is I'm going to change your Aaron judge for Jose Altuve. Like it's a lot. Get the robots out. We'll get back to Cal Raleigh in a second. He's brought to you by proper 12. I'm PFT

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Do you have a move, are you like in your head, like kind of like, I think like, oh man, if someone's gonna hijack this plane I'm gonna be such a badass Do you have that going through your head like man if this guy steps towards my pitcher? I'm gonna be such a badass here. I've always said that I won't try to tackle him from behind Yeah, just because like obviously he's gonna be going but I don't know if I'd be able to make it in time, dude Honestly what you should do and I don't know why catchers don't do this Like just let him like kind of run and just trip him That would be so like how embarrassing is that if you get yeah if you just throw your foot and

like the guy can't get he can't you can't get up from a trip and still be as mad because you're now just embarrassed about falling on your face yeah I don't know what his next move would be would he continue to go do I have your picture ready to trip him back do I just tackle him sit on him yeah I don't know I've always imagined my head I would just try to tackle him back. Do I just tackle him? Sit on him. Yeah, I don't know. I've always imagined my head I would just try to tackle him before he gets there But think about the trip what you do is yeah You wait for him to run and then when the you know, the back leg goes out you just kick that leg Yeah, right and then it hits their other leg. That's embarrassing as bit as embarrassing get they might even just laugh

They might even realize how silly this whole thing is and be like you have it's pretty funny They might even realize how silly this whole thing is and be like you have it's pretty funny. I Don't know if they'd be laughing Double embarrassed. Yeah, do you talk to the guys in the batter's box? Yeah, some guys some guys are real chatty in there really so guys a pitch or just just when they oh really push the pitch Yeah, what are they talking about? Depending on the day, you know some guys like I said real chir, real chirpy, real, you know, real funny in the box, like to, you know, either make fun of themselves or, you know, talk about some, what pitch they think is coming next or, uh, and some guys, you know, it's,

it's once they say, Hey, they don't, they don't say anything else again. It's focused kind of locked in, uh, you know, Nathaniel low for the nationals. He's one he loves loves the chirp Loves the chat and every single time it comes up. He's like, all right, you know where I like it That's all right. Here it comes right on metal. Yeah, are you allowed to talk when they're about to swing? Oh, yeah, it's Yeah, I mean some people like some people will be talking as the guys coming in his windup and everything and I'm just like All right Some people will be talking as the guys come in and wind up and everything and I'm just like, all right, if you want to chat, we'll chat. Do you have a...

Get in your head. Is it like game respect game when another catcher steps up? You guys had like shared professional courtesy? Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty much across the league now. Everybody, it's just known, you say hey to both the ump and the catcher now. Yeah. So I think some younger guys don't just because they don't know when they come up rookies They're just like quiet and they keep their head down and they don't want to which is a good thing. Yeah

Yeah, it's it's pretty much common courtesy now a lot of a lot of guys will like tap to Brandon Phillips did that to ya and they got in the fight. Yeah Yeah, some guys this just depends on the guy you're growing up, your dad was a coach. Um, do he coach you throughout like all your literally, cause he was a real coach. Like he coached college. Yeah. He's college coach. So did he coach you any of your teams or no? No, he didn't. Uh, he was always coaching college. So, um, he was not my coach. Uh, there's like, there's one or two years in high school when he finished up, he, he did some stuff, but yeah, no, he was, I was always with him at the field.

Yeah. At the co. Yeah. That's the perfect coach's son. Cause you don't, he's not coaching your actual team. So people can't be like, this guy's just getting preferential treatment, but he also is coaching you the other time. Not the, not the shortstop hitting third.

Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah. Like, is this guy good or is he just the coach's son? So you had it's you had a bait There's a lot of those. Yeah, especially nowadays. There's like five There's like five coaches and team and yeah, they're all their kids are hitting first five Come on now all playing Enfield Yeah, so you won the platinum glove award that's pretty cool Yeah, and that's when you got your goal

Did you get the gold glove first or the platinum glove award. That's pretty cool. Yeah. And that's when you got your gold. Did you get the gold glove first or the platinum glove? Gold and then platinum. Did you think that there was a chance you could get platinum last year? Uh, I mean, no, no. I mean, I was just happy to win the gold, right? And then, you know, they announced that at the, uh, at the award, uh, at the banquet. So I didn't think I was going to win that and wasn't in my mind. And it was kind of a cool little thing. I didn't know I could do.

Yeah. Do you keep them in the same place in your house? They are in my locker right now. Oh yeah. They were presented to me this year. So they presented to me at like one of the first games of the year. So right now they're in the top of my locker. I gotta, gotta find out where that's kind of a flex. I kind of like that. Yeah. So when the reporters come in, they see it. Well, it doesn't top. It's not, well, you gotta get it visible. Just let them know. Like this is who you're talking to. I think it's even, it's a little bit cooler that you have them where nobody can see them.

It's like, yeah, there's a box up there. Yeah. They're in wait. So they're not even displayed. They're just not even displayed. They're in a box. There's sitting in a box right now. Yeah. I would put the platinum in my foyer to my house. Like the first thing that somebody sees when they walk in and like the plastic case. Yeah. Yeah. That's the platinum glove. I'm the best in the world. Yeah. Where'd you put the gold? Probably the bathroom. Yeah. Like if you've got the platinum note,

you don't want anybody to see the gold because it's a major downgrade. It's like disappointing. You can't live up to it anymore. Yeah. When you played at Florida state, you guys went to Omaha. Did Jamis Winston ever give you guys a pop up speech? No, I wish. Oh, yeah. How awesome. Omaha is like every year the college world series is like, it kind of sneaks up on me. And then I get, I tune into the game. Like this is the best. And like, was it, was it just an awesome experience being in Omaha? Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, yes. I mean, for college baseball, you know, and the, you know, the kids like that's, that's all I

want to do is to go to Omaha. So it's like, it's the thing. Yeah, and getting to go, you know, it's kind of like a bucket list thing. It's like, check that box. Like, that's one of the cooler things. Yeah, I'd say, you know, and obviously get into the big of these pretty cool, too, but You know, it's kind of like the peak for for when you're in college It's like the one thing you want to was it hard going from metal to wood like was there an adjustment? Not really really no I mean, I actually kind of liked it better because when you get to pro ball you get to pick

Yeah, there were so many different things you could do to your bat. You could modify it. You could pick top heavy like versus like college, you know, it's basically like, here's the metal bat that you get. There's no, there's no changing it. You get what you get. So I thought it was kind of cool. Yeah. What's your bat like now? I'm actually a, I'm a torpedo guy. Oh, you are. You are. I'm a torpedo. So what's the difference even cheating? Yeah What's the difference like the first time you swung it? Could you immediately tell like yeah, this is this is gonna be my baby No, I it was I mean Really for anybody any baseball guy. It's they pick it up one time

They use it and it works and they're like, oh, this is what I'm gonna use So Rawlings sent me a couple torpedoes and I picked it up one game against the Rangers, like third at bat. I think I struck out or something. The first two at bats picks it up, hit a home run and never went back. So the, um, it just looks funky. You know, you see the, yeah, and how it tapers off and, um, but, uh, no, I mean, it feels, it feels kind of normal. You don't really feel the difference, but just looking at it, you're like, that's feels it feels kind of normal. You don't really feel the difference, but just looking at it

You're like that's it's kind of weird. Yeah Is there a certain player as a catcher where they're like ball on bat just sounds totally different than everyone else? Yeah, there's some guys that with the bat speed. I mean, oh tiny you can just it just sounds like just completely different Yeah, it's like when he swings it sounds like it like an airplane He's taking off Jesus. Yeah with the bat speed There's a few guy a whore a Saler Hit that big homerun a couple years ago with the Braves. Yeah in the World Series Yeah, he swings the back extremely hard. You're actually a little

Nervous back there with how hard he's swinging. Yeah. Cause it's just like, I mean, if he connects, it's, there's no, no getting the ball back. Yeah. You know, it's, um, it's scary. You know, I'd say Bryce Harper had that as well. That kind of different sound, different swing judge is just so big and so strong that he can miss hit it and still, yeah, it crazy still goes out. Yeah, he's he's just he's a different It actually is like it's actually cheating how tall he is. He should not be eligible for MVP. He's a beast Yeah, but you mean you you're the MVP. He's I mean He's different and just so we're clear if Aaron judge ever comes on this show We will tell him he's the MVP and Cal Raleigh actually cheating because he's DH

We will tell him he's the MVP and Cal Raleigh actually cheating because he's dh By being on the Yankees they use torpedo bats so he's technically a cheater he gets better pitches to hit we're Cal Raleigh guys Yeah, that was nice when the torpedo bat story broke because everybody was like the Yankees are all cheating Yeah, just like oh, I hope nobody mentions me and then everyone forgot about yeah. Yeah, nobody nobody cares about Seattle They're you know, it's a good sports town though, right? I about it. Nobody cares about Seattle. They're too far away. It's a good sports town though, right? I love it. It's awesome. The only thing I would say is it would be nice if you played in more of a hitters ballpark. Yeah, not a great hitters ballpark.

That and the East Coast, you just don't get as much love out in Seattle. It's nice when people notice the West Coast. And the stadium is awesome. Yeah. Oh, it's great. I mean, the fans are awesome. It's a great sports city, like we were talking about. All the teams, they show up really well. Like I said, pretty much when they're there, it's packed house. So it's fun to play in. This might be a dumb question But one thing that I love about uh, seattle and the ballpark, especially great food in the ballpark out there As a player, do you ever get to eat the ballpark food? uh

No, not really I mean You get I guess you can have people bring you stuff like clubbies and stuff if you really want to try something Yeah, like they had a they had a calzone a couple years ago Like yeah, yeah play on plan. So they brought me a few I tried them. Oh, yeah They got a bunch of different food though. I mean they got crickets out there, too. Yeah, yeah crickets and They got they're always introduced. Yeah, was it the little little dumpers little dumplings Yeah, was it the little little dumpers little dumplings

Little dumplings this year or something. They should make a big dumper Sunday. Just a giant chocolate Sunday. Okay, I could get behind that. Yeah Big dumper such a great nickname I read that your parents don't exactly love it. I mean, you know, yeah, I don't think your mom would, would like blame her dumper. It's your jeans. You gave me the big dumper. I know, you know, so I don't think, like I said, I don't think that's what that's what comes to mind when mom's thinking of a little boy. Cal, he's the little, my little baby, big dumper Twice tonight it's 28 years old You pay a lot of attention to like you were talking about Pat speed earlier as a catcher Do you pay a lot of attention to like all the metrics from all the players or you just like I can't I can't analyze things

That much no Yeah, you don't want you don't want to get too deep in the weeds You know, it's like you know, you can you can really get in depth now with all the analytics and all the you know stats and everything that's out there but The other day you're still playing baseball and you know, I think I keep it simple like that sometimes Yeah, what about as a hitter? Do you pay attention to like how far in front of the ball you're hitting? angle bat speed all that stuff how far in front of the ball you're hitting, angle, bat speed, all that stuff? Not really. Not unless something is really glaring and like, you know,

something has changed just because it's such a long season, you know, your body can change your stance, you know, like, oh, hey, like this is, you know, you were this far open earlier than the air and now you've closed yourself off or vice versa, like things like that. Like, and usually that'll be a gradual thing over time and so like some people will it's more of like a coach's job to bring that to you be like hey like this is where you're at yeah yeah you're falling off a little bit let's get you back to this it's what you're doing so how fast can you throw because catchers don't get enough credit for being able to throw really fucking fast i was i't think, I don't think my arms ever been my,

my calling card. I mean, you're throwing guys out. I was at your, is that, that's just your pop? Yeah, I'd say my transfers are decently quick. I got pretty good footwork. So it kind of makes up for my arm. I was always, I was a submarine guy. It was like a, oh really?

Yeah. In high school, I was throwing sidearm. How fast were you throwing? Oh, like 70 poo yeah I was just throwing strikes in there just so yeah I was like just doing that and then catching came calling so yeah have you ever called a really embarrassing pitch out and the guys not stealing at all yeah but he I wouldn't say it's too embarrassing. It's not one of those things. There's definitely a lot more embarrassing things that can happen.

What's the most embarrassing thing that can happen? One time I threw, well, I guess there was one time, the guy didn't steal and I still threw it a second. I thought he took off. It was like a fake steal. And I was kind of blocked by the lefty. And I threw it and nobody was there. So I just went into the outfield. Nobody didn't advance luckily. But and

then another time in college, I threw down kind of slipped a little bit my front foot and then hit the pitcher in the run the ass. Oh, yeah. And he was squatted down too. So wasn't even close. Yeah, I was like, I didn't hit him in the head. You saw the other day. Yeah, crazy. Yeah, in the head. But yeah, this guy right, right in the butt. So that was, I was kind I didn't hit him in the head you saw the other day. Yeah crazy Yeah in the head, but yeah at this guy right right in the butt. So those House got embarrassed. Yeah, what about if you're throwing a third base? It's a right-handed batter. Did you ever come close to hitting a guy? Yeah

Sometimes it looks like he gets pretty close. Yeah, I've hit the bat No, I actually have hit the I've hit the helmet of somebody and the guy scored one time. Oh, yeah Yeah, he's ricocheted and it hit him in the helmet and it went all the way to the dugout and the guy scored from second. So that was that was embarrassing. It was in college though. Yeah, a lot of embarrassing things in college actually. So yeah, I mean, you guys were good though. You gotta learn. Yeah, learn somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I got one last question. It's been

awesome. Cal, you are MVP. We're gonna we're gonna keep pumping up your numbers all year. The robot question question, r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. I'll finish with another dumb question because I think you might be the first catcher we've had on. We had Johnny Bench on like nine years ago. Did we? I don't know if we've had a catcher since so there's a lot of dumb catcher questions apologize for that. But uh, dumb catcher question. I know that like if you are if you're in the dugout and you're putting on your gear and then you have to take it off it means that obviously there's been some hits that you didn't expect. is there a small part of you like this is bullshit I gotta take it all off again yeah I mean you you kind of like learn like when to take it off when to put it on yeah do you have someone who puts it on for you no you should get

someone to do the just like the legs like a NASCAR yeah yeah but I would imagine it would suck if you took put it all on take it all off and then end the inning in the Duh in the on deck circle. Yeah. Well, sometimes you keep on the legs in the on deck circle No, so it's not a that's not a pro ball thing. I learned that real quick Oh, it's one of those like things that nobody tells you before and then you go do it and then they yell at you Or they're like you look stupid out there with your shin guards. And then it's just one of those things that you do it all through your whole life, right? Catchers, you're like on deck and then you take them off and then you get the pro ball and you do that. And everybody's like, you look like an idiot. Take those off. No,

you got to get ready to hit. So yeah, sometimes I'll look stupid and dug out though. Like I'll put, I'll take one off. Be like, I'm like halfway in halfway out just in case. Cause you don't want to take it all off or just being lazy. Yeah. You can, but you can never like, you can never just relax in the dugout, huh? Yeah. You're constantly doing something. Yeah. Talking to the pitcher, pitching coach, getting ready to hit, especially now

with the pitch. The pitch clock has made everything so fast. Yeah. Is that, do you like it as a catcher? It's nice for the in-game stuff because like things are going and like, you know, those four or five hour games are not happening. They don't exist. Yeah. People are, you know, it was getting really long with all the pitching changes and now with all the, you know, advanced stuff that people have. So it was getting a little long, but there's not a lot of time in the dugout. It's like, I don't got time to, you know advanced stuff with that people have so it was getting a little long but there's not a lot of time in the dugout it's like I don't got time to you know go grab waters dilly around it's like you got you gotta get ready right right

so it's almost too quick sometimes especially if you're leading off I gotta take it off get ready put everything on you know you gotta have all the yeah you know shields now oh oh dude this one just popped in my head. Do you, when the manager comes out to pull a pitcher, do you ever play like good cop being like, ah, we shouldn't, knowing that he's gonna get pulled anyway, just trying to have your pitchers back? Sometimes I shake my head, you know? Yeah, just let him know like, hey, it's not me that's doing this.

Hey man, I'm there for you. You would have gotten this guy out. Yeah, you got it. I could do back up, back up though. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you would have gotten this guy out. I kept you in. Yeah, I could do backup backup though Yeah, yeah, good go there and get into them, too. Yeah, just like dude you suck get out of here. No Sometimes you know, you gotta give them that little affirmation. Hey, man, I wouldn't have done that I do like the idea though you having a NASCAR team Not just one guy but like four guys that just roll up behind you, put all your shit on in like five seconds.

It should be the starters that aren't. So you have, yeah, five starters and rotations. So it should be the other four. Yeah. It strapped me up boys. Yeah. Let's go. How awesome is the aging though? When you have a day where you can just chill and just hit. It's almost, it's almost too, too chill. Some really? Yeah. It's like, well, as a catcher, you're in every single play you're doing, you're doing the most. Yeah, the ball, yeah, you're touching the ball every single play. You're always involved, your mind's always going,

and then you get to DH and you're like, I don't know what to do with myself. Right. And like, you're talking to guys that you normally wouldn't talk to in the dugout, like during the game, or you're doing, you're eating snacks, you don't really want to do it yourself, so you're just sitting there and kind of just

twirling your thumb sometimes. Yeah. Almost in a reverse way. It could be, some guys have trouble DHing because they don't know what to do themselves. They get bored. Yeah. I mean, some guys, it's been a thing in the past.

Like I need to play the field. But being a catcher, you have to have a few DHs. Yeah. I got one last maybe dumb question. I know that catchers don't always catch the first pitches that get thrown out. But I imagine that you've caught a lot of them. Is there one guy that has the best first pitch? I mean, each are all right. He threw like, I think he had like 91 couple years ago. That's awesome. Right down the middle. I mean, his first pitch is really, I mean, that's a good one. So yeah,

did he tell you like,, I'm gonna throw this one Yeah Uh, no, I think he kind of keeps it plays it close to the chest. Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't you know, he's pretty He likes, you know, stay a little quiet, you know, would you be down for our dumb baseball rule where the first pitch should count? You want to get a batter in there? Yeah. Oh, yeah So it's like all right, you want to bring out 50 cent to throw first pitch? It's gonna count What about a you're any else screen out there for somebody though? No, no First pitch you can get hit right back to you. Oh

Boy, it sounds like you're not ready for that It would be sick like imagine if like in the playoffs are like Yeah, we're bringing out this guy for a first pitch like a legend and he can still throw it no one Ryan Yeah, right. Yeah, right just suit him up, right? Yeah, he threw out a really good one couple years ago Yeah, 50 cent would actually be not the worst option. No, cuz he's gonna throw a ball right and who cares Yeah, you wouldn't want somebody throwing a meatball. Yeah. Yeah, think about it pretty fun Randy Johnson Who the Mets have grimace? Yeah, yeah, it us out there. Yeah, I grew a stir on the first pitch Oh, I just thought one more question about catching is there a

Baseball field that is actually like a ballpark that is the easiest and then the hardest to catch in based on What's beyond the pitcher? What's out in centerfield? Yeah, there's some tough ones with shadows. Let's say. Oh. And also the foul. I mean, the A's obviously when they were still in Oakland, the foul ball territory was insane. Yeah. Sneaky though. I think people miss that stadium though. Really?

I love playing there. I mean, obviously you had no fans, but you almost felt like you were back in high school or playing child log in. Like, yeah, it was kind of a cool experience. Like nobody's there. Dugouts are wide open. I was like, I love this. This is a lot of fun. Is COVID back right now? Yeah, I know. Right. But, but the Sacramento was tough to see in that, cause it's new and, um, Tampa Bay, obviously they're not there. They had the hurricane, but they had a white roof.

So like any pop flies that go up, I'm like, what, who designed this? Why would this ever be a thing? So I never really understood that. But yeah, any place with like shadows, when you get those like four o'clock games, and now all the stadiums, you know, they're really tall and they got shadows that go through

Guys guys hate four o'clock games. Yeah, and like with TV sometimes, you know TV takes precedent and it kind of runs everything So you get those they're gonna be tough days to hit and tough days to see as a catcher. Yeah All right. Well Cal, thank you big dumper. Appreciate you stopping by man. This was a lot of fun and we're rooting for you rest of the year Thanks guys. Appreciate it MVP The big dumper was brought to you by Experian we're gonna take a moment to talk about BFFs big cat. Who's your BFF on this pod? Uh, that would be Hank He's back Hank. Who's your BFF on this pod? I'm not to go with Philly the kid memes Okay, love that memes. Who's your BFF? I'm not to go with Philly the kid memes. Okay. Love that memes. Who's your BFF? Hey, yo, Zach

That's nice. Zach. Who's your BFF? We would PFT. Thanks. I appreciate that max. Who's your BFF on the pod? I was gonna go with PFT today as well. Wow, that's huge I'm gonna go with big cat cuz nobody else picked big cat yet. Thank you. And that's sad. Don't pick me either So whatever that's true. I forgot about that. Yeah, it's okay So we're all BFFs here on this pod for the most part, except for Max. But there's one BFF who always looks out for you introducing your big financial friend Experian. Experian has a bunch of legit ways to help you save.

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And spyglass spyglass played what three rounds two rounds two rounds beach and spyglass But a whole weekend in Carmel told him tip 60% on the tabs. We got it How was it? It was even better than going into it. I had my expectations were through the roof. It really was a magical experience. We stayed at the Inn in Spanish Bay. Beautiful, beautiful hotel, resort, spa, right on the Spanish Bay golf course. Why did you tell us where you stayed when we booked it?

Phenomenal restaurants, I'm telling the viewers. Oh, OK. Spanish Bay, unbelievable golf Unbelievable golf course hit two berries in a row. I don't think I've ever done that in my life. Yep. Shot a 42 on the front that I was going to break my PR completely imploded on the back. You guys would have enjoyed it. Yeah. Not me. Still broke 90, which is, which is huge. Huge. And then Pebble beach was you know, obviously, you know six seven eighteen, but The course it truly was like the entire time you're just looking around like this is not a real place I cannot believe that we're playing golf In this setting you mentioned the spa. Did you go to the spa?

Yeah, there's like a little gym like we went in, you know, it was it was it's part of the hotel Yeah, just went in the gym went in the steam room, hot tub pool. But yeah, Pebble Beach was was it was an obviously getting to spend the time with my dad, brother, brother in law was it was it was incredible. Probably two of the best days of my life. Really? Yeah. And how many times when you were out there were you like, God damn it. Thanks so much. P F I mean the craziest part, like a shot of TARP AWL works at Pebble beach and he met us on the first tee and he told us cause I'm guessing that's who you're communicating with. But time out, did someone fart in there? Who farted? They just max. Why do you exact? He gas masks you and like absolutely horrendous back here in the middle of his fucking Pebble Beach.

It's so bad. Was it mean so bad? Yes. Oh, Zach looks like I'm in. And this this booth is just like a dungeon of smell. You smell Hank by time. All right. So it was it was it was I got off. I started the first round at Spanish Bay double bogey second hole triple bogey

Third hole and in my tee shot in the second hole is just a complete dog went away wasn't even close Third hole stepped up hit a par and then the fourth hole I had a nice awesome mini drivers 54 degree wedge hit an eight footer and then on a par three I hit like a 30 foot. Can we go back to Max? It was phenomenal. All right. I bought some time.

All right. Okay. So what were you saying about Tarp? Tarp. Yeah. So he's AWL. He works at Pebble. That's your guy.

That's your guy. We asked him to hook you up and he came out and he was like, yeah, big guy and PFC. Like they, they, you know, enjoyed doing this so much. Like it's going to be an annual trip. And I almost cried I was ready to cry That that I think I think tarf is so much and like I think tarf is paid on commission do this all the time is It's it's an unbelievable annual tradition that you guys have started and I just I cannot thank you enough

I think I think tarp is trying to make some money I just I cannot thank you enough. I think I think tarp is trying to make some money It's I just I'm just I was just reporting when he said annual trip. That's what he saw on us I actually said I can't argue with so I'm reading my DM. We did do that. We're fucking awesome like that I'm reading my DMS with tarp right now where I did say we would like to make this an annual trip if Hank can break 90 And I did it Spanish, but would you shoot at Pebble Beach? I shot a 95 So he said that to you before you take off right? I also skulled my shot over seventh green. Oh cool Let me hear more about your golf round Are you brought back gifts?

I did bring back gifts. Why'd you bring back gifts? We gave you the gift. I know, but I- That was part of the budget. I gave him money for gifts. I felt, you know, I felt, and that's kind of like, it's a fun new tradition on the podcast, Shane, Max.

So, Big Cat, I know, you know- Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you give me a pope? I felt bad about the pope, and then Max got you the Aloha they did not have a pope they did have This little pebble beach golf cart figurine. That's so cool Oh, nice right on the shell exactly what I wanted right next to my broken Pope Where's my Pope where the fuck did my Pope go? Every time I get a gift I forget. I don't have my Pope anymore. I took it out. I found it I

Thought I put it back on this chain stole it it's on his desk oh Shane Shane stole the Pope back go get the Pope get the little figurine people are gonna be like holy shit have you traveled everywhere you'd be like yeah is that the Pope what is Shane went to Italy mobile we paid for Shane's Italy trip to and max's Hawaii trip Pft Again, this is we're boys now where we're in lockstep And I know I think there was last time or a couple times going to your golfing I was giving you a lot of shit for for your belt. Yeah wearing like a formal belt on the golf course Yeah, I didn't have a golf belt and so Hank was like dude. What is this guy doing going to the course?

Oh, yeah, and they cost like $70. I'm not buying. I'm not wearing a golf belt. have a golf belt. And so Hank was like, dude, what is this guy doing? Going to the course with a golf belt. Oh yeah. And they cost like $70. I'm not buying it. I'm not wearing a golf belt. Oh, a golf belt. I got PFD at Pebble beach golf belt. Maybe that might be what's been holding me back though. Wait, but he's not having a golf belt. But PFT has never been to Pebble beach, but you did send someone. I did. So you can tell, you can tell everyone. Yeah. It's not stolen Valor. I'm like, yeah, it wasn't for me. It's kind of like, you know, when you, when you pay for, uh,

pay for somebody else, you get to take some honor in that. Let's see, Hank, this feels like it might be a little bit big. I kind of had to guess. I tried it on myself and it was going to fit me. So I figured it would fit you. Look at this. Oh, the clubs come out. Wow. Of the golf club Yeah, you can kind of pick them up a little all right So it's going right next to my Hawaiian chick and my broken poke like this. It's a pretty good fit Hank

So this is for tying all my clubs together right? Yeah, I can use that all right Look at all the places. I've been guys. Oh shit. I just broke the Hawaii girl memes all the places I've been guys oh shit I just broke the Hawaii girl memes for memes coffee guy no boom mug but I got him a nice spyglass hill coffee mug love it and nice collection nice pug is not here but he's presidential he's always you know that's a pug got married signing things Documents I got a nice pebble Beach pen ball point pen Wow Very smooth Shane I know Shane's always here whooping playing games doing stuff with balls. I got him this pebble Beach inflatable

Golf ball thing. Well, it's not inflated. I couldn't find a pump here. There's a pump in this office somewhere Shane will find it. He loves playing with balls That's like those the tennis balls that they have at the majors except as it I like that I like anytime you need a giant novelty ball. I'm in Jack I don't know if he's in there. No, he's not he's a wild card. We don't we don't know what's coming next with him So I got a nice Pebble Beach deck of cards Max

Max I know sometimes you know you struggle with your breath, so I got you some nice pebble Beach breath Struggle with my right I struggle with your breath. I thought you meant like catching it. Oh wow Okay, thank you Pebble Beach inhaler don't worry. I'm not calling you fat. I'm just saying your breath smells. Yeah, thank you and then Zack Cream team, you know, you're dealing with with ice cream cold. So I went ahead and I got you a nice Pebble Beach winter jacket seriously. Wow Yeah, let's see it. That's nice. Holy shit. That's nice That's really nice fucking mince

That's awesome, I thank you so much for the gift tank. Yeah, let's see there was a clear Hierarchy of these gifts here. No, what are you talking about? What do you mean? I just went for what felt like it fit their personality. It ranged from winter coat, $75 belt. Did you see my golf cart? It's probably more than $75. Did you see my golf cart? It's sick dude. I got mints. I got a golf cart, a little figurine golf cart. You know what, you know what, you're right Max. I Got you also this zipple lighter with no better fluid in it. Oh, that's honestly wait That's nice. You wanted to keep that was for you. Is that is that so he could do flamethrowers with his breath? Yeah, wow It looks really good what a great handshake from Zach right there. I know Hank didn't take his hat off

Bad golf etiquette. I love my mints. Honestly, do you yeah? I was meaning that was meeting to go get myself a nice pair of mints Yeah, covering all that all the controversial topics Morgan Wallen mints Oh, then that was a good way to bring up his breath because we've been meaning We needed to do that. I felt that was perfect. I was looking around You know, I was looking for the knickknacks. I was like, oh no Max's Favorite part about is that Hank put a lot of thought into all these gifts Yeah, he really tell it through him this is a person that is getting which is really nice

It shows that he's a thoughtful gift giver if I had to guess So Hank bought a coat for Zack bought a belt for PFT and then when checking out got all Right next to the register. We're all registered gifts. They had a great knickknacks. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Zack you look Official in that coat. I feel official. Yeah, I think I think we all I Was just like I'm gonna get Zach the most expensive I think we all gotta get Zack jackets from every vacation we go yeah We can set up like it we could share this one we could say like Monday Wednesday Friday Like I'd like to wear it tomorrow if anyone's got like a golf thing going on we just Yeah, if anyone wants a Spanish Bay

golf thing going on we just if anyone wants a Spanish Bay key chain head cover key that's you I didn't play there though yeah but you need to let everyone know that you like golf because God forbid someone doesn't want to talk about the skull that you had on seven or yeah the birdie you had on six back to back birdies mini driver you hit mini driver 54 degree wedge Wow eight footer up there Incredible isn't that the name of the chick that was in good will honey mini driver mini Cooper mini I think her name was mini driver. Yeah. Yeah smoke. Uh Hank did you win?

Yeah, you were better than your brother brother-in-law and dad Yeah, I mean we we weren't really playing in all that competitive. So you didn't win. We were having a good time. I scored the best. You did?

That would be a win, every single time? Yeah. Wow. Turns out. They all have, my dad, my dad's only, my dad doesn't really golf. He's like, I've played Pebble Beach like 10 times in the last 10 years.

That's sick. These are my home course. What a flex. And my brother and brother-in-law both have young kids so they don't get to go off as much Yeah, but you but me I'm you're ready setting. Yeah, what a trip Truly I truly cannot thank you guys enough you're welcome. And yeah, I mean I can't wait for next year. Yeah, well, you shot 94 I Just was going off with tarp told me yeah, I mean that's our boy We got it all together with tarp. Okay good show boys Mount Rushmore season starts on Wednesday I think we're gonna do some draft stuff with for solo. It's some good interviews coming and we are I've seen some people ask

We will be having Ryan Whitney on in person Hopefully for Friday cuz I was gonna go to Edmonton. Yeah, and we'd like to talk to him About everything mmm cuz he's a broken man Okay Numbers 399 oh We've got three first. I think I did 50 got it got it? OK, no, Hank, you can have it. No, you take it. Now you take it. You're still doing the 99 thing means.

OK, I'll take it. Six. We got it. Yeah. 99 memes. I'll take five. Birdie on five. Oh, yeah. Who could forget? When Pug comes back, are you still gonna try and take 99? Yeah, it'll be a wedding gift for him for me to have it. There'll be rides What did you take max?

six I'll take I just gotta get a win 75 exactly. Yeah you I'll go 27 wait do we have a first lady of the pod now that the president got married it's crazy come on three come on 27 13. Oh, I didn't see the one. 13.

I thought that was a 3 so bad. I thought it was 3 too. 13. That would have been awesome if it was 3. 379 days still, I catch Hank. That's crazy. That is crazy. Love you guys.

That's insane. Safe. So So So I'm gonna be a good boy Thanks for watching!