Pardon My Take - The Undertaker, Mt Flushmore Of Business Decisions And What Makes A Cool Hat Guy
Episode Date: May 20, 2020There are no sports but we break down what makes a cool hat guy a cool hat guy (2:24 - 14:50). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Big Cat is reading a book and PFT has discovered the best new sports debat...e (14:50 - 27:30). The Undertaker joins the show to talk about his new documentary "The Last Ride" his career in the WWE, behind the scenes of wresting, inferno matches, and being buried alive (27:30 - 61:13). Segments include not to brag but we called it, Mt Flushmore of business decisions, and Guys on Chicks.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or
YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part in my take,
we have The Undertaker. Taker. Awesome interview. Hero of mine. Great time talking with Mr. Taker,
Mark Calloway, Undertaker. Go watch his new documentary out on WWE Network now. Episode
3 is coming out on Sunday. We have Hot Seat Cool Throne, Guys on Chicks and the Mount Flushmore
of Worst Business Decisions. That's a totally random topic we just came up with. Mount Flushmore
of Business Decisions. Mount Flushmore of Business Decisions. Before we get to all that,
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they're giving away free money. They're giving away free money. Today is Wednesday May
20th and I actually have nothing. I have nothing on my pad because guess what? Nothing is going on
except I feel a little glimmer of hope. I feel like we're we're Bill Murray and what about Bob?
Baby steps. You stayed at Texas Tech? No. Whoa. Are we breaking that news right now? No, I'm just
trying to say that. I was just trying to see if I was trying to get it out of you. I don't I don't
know as I'm sitting here right now. He's keeping all of his options okay. I'm gonna do some soul
searching Hank. Ever heard of it? Got to talk to you know. Sounds like you're not. It sounds like
you're out of town. No, I don't know. It depends. I mean I think if we win the Cotton Bowl it might be
you know, two great kids. Stugs is what they're saying about them. Yeah, so nothing going on
except sports do feel like they're slowly coming back. I have a prediction that we will have baseball
and basketball in the month of July. Let's go. I'm going to confirm that prediction. Love it.
There is like the first Robin of Spring of football coming back and that's Ben Rottlesberger
shaved his beard. He did. He shaved his beard. So the beard is gone. Which no one knew because
he blocked everyone. Well, no one knew. Also, I think the governor is mad at him. The governor is
like, Hey, you're not supposed to be going to a barber shop right now, Ben. Ben's never been one
to really follow the letter of the law or the spirit of it. So the law for Ben is it's floating.
Right. Guideline. Right. Exactly. It's simply something that can be said out loud but doesn't
have to be followed. Yeah. So Big Ben said that he would shave his beard when he could throw an NFL
football again. So I guess Big Ben is making passes. It's going to be great. And Tom Brady had
their first practice day with the Bucks. It's not an official practice. He's getting like little
Sandlock games together. As long as there are no coaches involved, then Tom Brady can do his like
little backyard workouts with people. But I feel like we've gone at least, you know, two weeks
without Tom Brady getting arrested down in Florida. So that's that's progress for the Bucks.
The Big Ben thing, though, like I am. I'm so excited for Big Ben to be back because we we've
talked about it, but we're losing all of the heroes of ours from from yesteryear. Phil Rivers
is now with the Colts, which is weird. Eli's gone. It's just we need we need Big Ben to come back
and have a couple more years, you know, defy the laws of aging as a bad body person. It would be
great to see. I also think that our friend duck duck Hodges has kind of set a little career path
in place for himself, where he could be the backup behind Big Ben. And then he could sign a lucrative
backup quarterback contract elsewhere. He could be like a David Carr type quarterback that just
kind of like hangs out for 12 years. Good locker room guy. People like him. What is so Mason Rudolph?
Like are we I'm actually just waiting. We're waiting for like three years for Mason Rudolph to
sue the NFL. Yeah. Yeah, definitely get involved in litigation. Like I said, like I said, on the
on Monday show, the whole microphones, no crowd noise is not going to bode well for Mason Rudolph.
No. But yeah, duck Hodges could be the perfect backup guy. He could be old school, like when Jim
Surgey was the backup for the Colts. Yep. Yep. He could be that guy. He could be like a Chaz White
Hearst. Mm hmm. Have you been watching Charlie White Hearst Instagram stories? I have not.
He has been he's driving around on an ATV around his property a lot with his hat on.
He's got various fuck hats. Yeah. So dude just wears hats and like people are like, oh man,
want to fuck that guy? Well, you keep that hat on when you fuck right for sure. It's like, but it
also leads to fucking Indiana Jones, the kingdom of the clip. And he's he's he's finding like snakes
on his property, just like big giant timber rat rattlesnakes. And it made me realize I would
absolutely watch a Charlie White Hearst nature show. Yes. There's something about
guys who can wear cool hats. It's just it's not an attainable goal for regular dudes,
like the John Mayer hats, the Charlie White Hearst hats, Pharrell, Pharrell, not so much,
but just maybe maybe Jason Whitlock, the the guys who can wear an obscure hat. His hats get smaller
every year, by the way. But just something it's, you know, it could be a Scali cap. It could be a
fedora. It could be one of those Indiana Jones hats. There's something about dudes who can rock
like cool hats and have it feel normal. It's just they're they're upper echelon guys. You know what
it is. It's the same thing as like an earring guy. So if you're a hat guy, you could pull off an
earring like Bruce Arians. If he just showed up with like a Harrison Ford hoop. By the way,
Harrison Ford's earring. He is not an earring guy. No, he's wielded on everyone. That's always
really bothered me about him. Morgan Freeman. I don't think he's an earring guy either,
but he always rocks more. More bothersome about Harrison Ford as he keeps crashing his airplanes.
That is tough. Yeah. Has he crashed like 45 times? He's crashed like he's a world's worst pilot.
Keeps going up there. Yeah. Hey, credit to him. Fearless. But yeah, hat guys. I would love for
someone. If you're a cool hat guy, tweet me a picture of your cool hat because I'll know right
away and I'll tell you whether you should ditch that hat or keep it. Because when a cool hat guy
shows up, he commands a room. Yes. And it's really easy to tell if somebody is not a cool hat guy
trying to pull off a hat. Instantly. Ben Rontzelsberger. Boom. There you go. And he showed up wearing
the fedora. Yeah. His booger look when he had to slip back hair in the like bugsy Malone suit.
Wearing the Jason Whitlock hat and you looked at big, big Ben and you were like, Ben, like,
talked to his wife and was like, I think I'm going to be a hack. You don't just decide to be a hat
guy one day. People can see through that. Well, that look, that specific look from big Ben. He
just watched, watched Dick Tracy that weekend. It was like, look at me. Yeah. It looked like
the untouchables. Right. Right. I'm going to, I'm going to rock this look and no one's going to
have a problem with it. But yeah, the cool hat guys. Man, Cam Newton. Yeah, he's a cool hat guy.
Just because he is a cool hat guy. His ridiculous hats are usually like the fourth
most ridiculous thing that he's wearing at any given moment in time. Yes. Yes. Man,
he had like a lip. Maybe we'll do that as a Mount Rushmore of cool hat guys.
Yeah. I would love to see Eli Manning try to pull off a hat. No, he can't. Yeah. He would never
be able to do it. Brady can do it. He got roasted for one of his hats. I guess he can because he goes
to he. So he does it in the very Brady fashion. He wills it by like the only time you see him in
public is the Kentucky Derby or big boxing match. And those are big time hat places had events. So
he he has like, he's basically taken on wearing cool guy hats like the sixth round pick he is
being like, I will find a way to be a cool hack. Well, let's run through some other quarterbacks
determine if they're hat guys or not. Russell Wilson, not a hat guy. Easy. Aaron Rodgers. No,
Jimmy Grappolo. Maybe no. No, he's attractive enough that he could probably do anything.
Yeah. He wouldn't, though, dude. He wouldn't. He wouldn't. But if he wanted to, that's, but we're
now we're talking about hypotheticals. We're just talking about. Yes. No, he has.
Hypothetically being a good hack guy. He could be a good hat. He could. But you don't know that.
No, if he. So the answer is no, you know, the answer is yes. Not a hat guy until proven. No,
he's not. Jimmy. It's Jimmy G. You are not a hat guy until proven that you are one. The ceiling
that Jimmy G's hat guy in this reaches is like a tennis player. Please tell me what friends
open with that Google. Who decides to like wear his white cap backwards. Jimmy Grappolo cool hat.
No, it's not. You're going to find nothing. Our guy Baker may feel unfortunately not.
Remember he wore one at the at the boxing, whatever boxing match they went to. That's true.
Miles Garrett's friend. Yeah. Yeah. Miles Garrett. But Baker does a lot of great. Miles Garrett should
be the guy that determines whether or not you're a hat guy. He just rips it off if you're not.
Jimmy G's hair might be too good for being like he wouldn't do that. You know what I mean? Because
his hair is so good. I think he's attractive. Cutty's a hat guy. Yeah. I think anyone who lives
in Nashville can be a hat guy. That kind of is you can just do it. I think you say fuck it.
If you're retired, you can be a hat guy to my homes. No. No. Kirk Cousins is a classic guy who
tries to be a cool hat guy and everyone roasts him. Yes, probably. Oh, sneaky one. Kirk Cousins is
allowed to wear a hat of his alma mater. Yes, that's about it. Sneaky one. I actually think
Dak Prescott is a cool hat guy. I think he could like even a cowboy hat like he something that's
not a normal hat. I think he'd look good. Jared Goff. I think so. He's attractive in his own
right. He's such a handsome man. He doesn't need a hat. Can't be a hat guy until you prove that you
are one. You guys are throwing on hypotheticals. Jared Goff has not gone out there. He hasn't taken
that risk. No, that's what we're doing right now. And I'm sure if he did, he would look good. But
on the record, he's not a hat guy. We're backing up our assertion that we can tell if somebody's a
cool hat guy before they even wear a hat. So for example, with Jared Goff, I would say he's
probably a hat guy, but he's outhatted by another quarterback in that room, Blake Bortles, who is
very, very much a hat guy. He needs a hat to stay alive. Yes, very much a hat guy. He's like that
old like that. What was that old tale? Like the woman who had the necklace that kept her head on?
Mel Trugna. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that one. That's Blake in his hat. Kyler Murray. Hat guy just
so he can get up to six feet. There it is. Pharrell hat. Drew Brees, not a hat guy.
Robert Griffin, the third bucket hat guy. Yes. Oh, yeah. Rocks that. Really cool.
Did you win that contest? That raffle? No, we didn't. I bought $100 worth of raffle tickets.
It wasn't a straight up auction to my dismay because I was going to bet everything or I was
going to spend everything on it. But there was a raffle where you could like take four friends
and go train with Robert Griffin down in Florida at his house for like a week. I think I don't
know how are you going to get out of that, but that would have been awkward, awkward conversations.
No, you guys were going to come because I was going to say we're going to throw some
I was going to say we're going to throw some footballs at trees with Robert Griffin down in
Florida. The best was our friend Stanford Steve had texted me the link like early in the afternoon
of that raffle was like, who the hell would ever bid on this? And I just replied PFT. And then
four hours later he texted a group and was like, just bid on this. Yeah. I was like, yep. Well,
I got a text. I know my guy. Do I know my guy? I got a text from Racini saying, hey,
you're the only person in the world I could think of that would bid on this. Yes. So yes,
I'm glad that I've somehow staked my my brand as being a guy that wants to hang out with Robert
Griffin at his house. Very cool brand. Very cool. Very, very cool. Let's do one more hat guy.
Joe Burrow. No, his hair is too good. No, his hair is too good. And it just doesn't.
Yeah, no, it's not a it's not a slight it's it's only a Joe Burrow is a lunch, you know,
a hard hat lunch pail guy. It's not like a guy that's trying to get swag points. Here's a hard
like his swag comes on the field. He doesn't care about having swag only. It's only a slight
if that makes sense person attempts to wear right hat doesn't pull it off. Not being a cool
like I'm not a cool hack guy. I know it. Like that's just something you just know you're you're
you just grow up and being like, I can never wear a hat like that. I think I could be a cool
hat. The long hair does a lot to distract from it. I could be a cool hat guy in a still picture.
But if you see me moving like walking around in real life with a cool hat, I immediately get sniffed
out as not being cool. I think I think the hair gives you a lot of leeway. Yeah, but cowboy hat
maybe but like cool hat. I don't think so. I think you look weird in a cool hat cowboy hat. Yes,
there's only one way to find out there'll be an exclusive cool hat episode. Yeah, we'll get him.
Yeah, he just makes cool hats. He doesn't have a cell phone, which obviously is cool. Yeah. All
right, let's get to the hot seat cool throne. Who says we don't have anything to talk about in
sports? That was electric. We'll get to the other in a cold starting quarterback. Can they do it?
This is the this is the third try for PFT in Hank to chug an entire Bud Light seltzer. Wow.
Wait. Yeah. Wow. I read the hot seat cool throne ad for the record. I did it last time.
All right. Here we go. I need to wait. No, get your lips off. Lips off.
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and see why great tasting Bud Light seltzer is putting every other hard seltzer on the hot seat.
It's warm. Close. Oh, Hank just gave up. Straight up gave up. Yeah. It's even better
when it's warm, but maybe not currently at this exact moment. It's like seltzer soup. Yeah. Full
on gave up. That tastes delicious. All right. Hank, go ahead. All right. My hot seat is Colombian
natives. Okay. The quichua. So Pablo Escobar, if you guys have heard him, he was a drug lord back
in the day. Who's that Colombian guy? He had a private zoo where he brought in all these exotic
animals. The hippos still live there. The hippos are now killing people. Oh, yeah. So the hot seat
is the Colombian people. Yeah. Okay. The hippos have breeded and now they're like it's turning
into an uncontrollable situation and now the hippos have started. It's like this is the first
attack of something that people were, you know, growing concern over, but this was the first
hippo death that was caused by Pablo Escobar. Can you imagine if there were murder hippos
in the United States? Like the murder hornet trend with pale in comparison. I wouldn't let
that fear get me. Murder hippos are tough because they are, I think, the most deadly animal in Africa.
Yeah, they are. They are. What is hippo mode? That's when you just chill in the water. That's
when your seabed is in the water. Got it. That's when you go, yeah, you go like basically up to
your eyeballs, but you're just chilling. Okay. And, you know, there's not a lot of water for the
hippos to chill. One of the most depressing planet Earths out there. There's not a lot of water for
them. Like hippo modes can't go hippo mode in water. They're going hippo mode in mud because
there's no water. So they're just, they're just all sitting in mud. Very sad. Chris Long's water
boy should do something about that. In addition to the wells, just make big ass pools for the
hippos to chill in. My cool throne is just, you know, old school WWE. We got Undertaker coming
up. Great interview. And this clip, like this is one of those things like kind of with your
old sports clips, like they should just re-air this whole game, but there was a clip that re-air.
Dusty Rhodes hitting a three. Dusty Rhodes hitting a three. Lex Luger. Everyone crashing the paint.
It's just one of those clips like you watch over and over and over again. You analyze every single
player like watching what they're doing. They were going so hard. Like all these celebrity games
and stuff. I feel like nowadays it's more like sponsors and stuff. I feel like these celebrity
games, even like Michael Jordan, like they saw that one with Kenny Rogers getting wet a couple
of weeks ago. Yes. Like those celebrity games, it was more like, you know, it'd be like Scotty
Pippin's like, Hey guys, can you guys come play in my celebrity game? But they would all come and
play Dead Series. Right. This game looks like it was absolute like elbows flying, people crashing
the boards, just a lecture. So there's a longer clip of that on YouTube that you can watch. I think
it's like five or 10 minutes long. And I went and I watched it because I was like, Holy shit,
Dusty Rhodes had a stroke to him. And it turns out that he was wet on that one shot and then he
was feeling himself and just started chucking. I mean, I'm going to watch the entire video now
because that sounds amazing. Shoot yourself till you get hot. Gotta keep shooting. All right,
PFT yours. My hot seat is my eyeballs. So my eyeballs are firmly on the hot seat because I
got a new development. Well, yeah, but it not because I like the sunglasses or anything, which
yes, my eyes do suck because I wear sunglasses all the time. But well, I thought it was like you
put Oh, I'm not gonna. What? Go ahead. Hank's just his Hank trolling sideways. Are we trolling us,
Hank? No, no, no. Go ahead. Your eyeballs. Okay, you get a bad eye test. No, I got I have this new
TV and I don't know how to describe it. Oh, sick brag. I'm buying a new TV. I don't know how to
describe it. But it's so big. It's one of those TV 360. Do you know what I'm talking about? It's
one of those TVs that like the frame rate I think is too I went too long in between buying
televisions that I must have skipped like six generations. Yeah, crystal clear. And the frame
rate is weird. It like if you watch like a recorded show, it seems like they're moving too quickly
across the screen. It doesn't look like TV anymore. Yeah. And I don't know how to describe
this might actually be broken, besides saying it's one of the no, because I've seen a picture
setting. I've seen them at my friends places before. Yeah, those are broken too. And I'm always
like, Oh, it's one of those TVs. I never want to hang out at the house that has those TVs. Is it
curved? No, absolutely not. You think so? Yeah, I think you got to do a settings. The real test
is going to be when football starts. I'll know if it's fucked up when football starts. Yes. Yes. But
yeah, if anybody knows how to make your TV not one of those TVs, and it's also like you can download
a bunch of apps from the internet, which sounds great. But now every time I turn on my TV, it's
like five, 10 minutes, I have to like update every app. Yes, I can't watch TV anymore on my TV.
Yeah, you got a smart TV. Well, plug the plug. Cut the cord. Don't do that. Cut the cord. My cool
throne is evolution in terms of the evolution of sports takes. Because we're seeing one happen
before our eyes. We saw one today. We're lucky enough in history to witness it today. LeBron James
has been quoted as saying that he would like to have played with MJ, not against him. Super
teams. He won't he won't entertain the hypothetical of LeBron or MJ. He's saying I think my style
would have complimented his because he's a passer and he could set Jordan up. So because LeBron gave
that one inch on the MJ versus LeBron take, we have debates right now from none other than
Stephen A. Smith. Now the debate has shifted to would LeBron James be a better Robin than
Scottie Pippen is. So now we're comparing that. Now we're saying would LeBron be a better number two
than Scottie was to Jordan. So MJ's the goat. So now MJ is the goat. I think I think he takes
last shot. I think we're ready to move on from that. Yeah, yeah. He's still telling you himself.
He did it to himself. All right. My hot seat is MJ related. Horace Grant is on the hot seat.
So Horace Grant, who was on the show a couple of weeks ago, adamantly denied that he was the
snitch for Sam Smith's book, Jordan rules. He is still upset about this. And he went on ESPN 1000
today and said, as I stated to everybody that is downright outright complete lie lie lie lie.
And as I stated, if MJ has a grudge with me, let's talk about it or we can settle it another way.
Now, why would Horace Grant think that? Well, he's always been on the list, but why would he
think watching after watching 10 hours of a guy who's the most grudge holding like vengeful person
on planet Earth? Why would you then be like, let me pick a fight with that guy? I actually think
we're going to get another last dance of MJ just a racing horse grant from history. Well, I mean,
no one's named Horace anymore. That's another name that he snatched right there. Yeah. Yeah,
Horace, he said on our show too that he wasn't a snitch, right? Correct. So also hot seed us.
Yeah, for not doing not getting the publicity for that. Yeah, but it's also like it's very well
known that he's but he's Matt. Yeah, not a not a good decision to pick a fight with MJ. But what's
Michael Jordan going to do to Horace? Do they run in the same circles now? I don't think so. I feel
like they're good. Yeah, if they see each other fade on site, I would I would actually take Horace
Grant in a fight. You forget that Charles locally goes everywhere. MJ goes. Okay, good point. Yeah.
So I think that that would probably settle that. Yeah, probably just snap his finger and Charles
will come and just bitch slap Horace. That would be it. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. I think
one on one though, if you see Horace Grant, he's like 69 to 50, he still looks jacked as hell.
Yeah. Although I would probably fight dirty. You wouldn't lose. Yeah, that's right. He would
refuse to refuse to lose. All right, then my cool throne is my brain. I have an announcement.
That's our announcement music. I started reading a book. Jordan rules. Nope. I've read that book.
Yeah, but I started reading a book. What book? It's I can't remember the title. It's not the Silk
Road. It's pretty good. It's about this like the one with Dread Pirate Scott, the guy who set up that
it's the website. Yeah, yeah. So not the like silk road. No, no, the real the new silk. Okay,
so now now your brain's cooking on different ways because there's no cooking or new words.
I'm pretty sure we can find the time stamp, but there was a point in the beginning of COVID.
I was like, how long is it going to take for you guys to read a book? Then it is May 18th. I also
have a tweet out there saying I think about five months ago that I tweeted like I just started
a book and everyone thought I was writing a book and I was like, no, no, no, I started reading a
book. That was a different book that I never finished, but I'm going to finish this one. So
I'll reply to the tweet when I do finish it. Well, I mean, there's a big hole in the marketplace
right now for an illegal online drug place. So you're reading a book about the internet? Yeah.
Yeah, but I also did this ready for this. I'm into I'm trying to get into biohacking.
Since Joe Rogan went to Spotify and now we just get to rule the Apple charts. I'm trying to not
read my phone before I go to bed. I'll let you guys know how it goes. Is that biohacking? Yeah.
Is that just like best practices for snow biohacking? I'm biohacking. I also take
20 minute cat naps in the middle of the afternoon biohacking. Okay, that's like what the
what constitutes as before bed. What do you mean? Like I get into bed. I turn on this little thing
called a light next to me. I didn't even know it existed until last night. And then I open the book
and I start reading until I get tired and fall asleep. So you read your wild book instead of
your phone before you fall asleep. Correct. It's fucking crazy. That is nuts. You are insane.
Yeah. You're basically like living in the 17th century. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
I'm gonna try it again tonight. We'll see how it goes. Okay, I started reading a book too. Yeah.
The game. The secret society pickup artists. Oh, nice. Yeah, so I'm learning the mystery methods.
Basically, you just have to be really mean to women and then they'll like you. Nice. I also,
I immediately became that annoying book guy, which I have to stop because I like when I drove here,
I drove with Ron and I was like, Hey, I got this book. I think you'd like. I was like, wait,
what am I doing? Don't do that. Don't be that guy. Uh huh. She's being like, Hey,
yeah, I recommend it. Yeah. Hey, you want to borrow this book? Yes. Sure. It sounds awesome. If I say
that to anyone, stop me. If I say the book is better than movie, that plays. It does. That's the
whole reason to read a book. So you can say that big short. Are you reading this book? Are you
reading this book because there's going to be a Silk Road movie coming out? I think there will be
a movie. And when it comes, I'm ready for it. You read the book. Yes. So actually, maybe that
will be what I do. I'll just read the book before the book of movies so I can just go around saying
that. Okay. I like that. I like it. It's a fascinating story though about the Silk Road.
Yes. The dude went from just being a nerd in his apartment. Uh huh. He was making like
hundreds of millions of dollars. Yes. And he was, don't, no, no, spoiler. He's in jail. Yeah,
no, I haven't finished it. Okay. I'm just started. Okay. I won't say I read a hundred pages. It's
also a great book because he tried to kill his business. It's also a great book because each
chapter is like four pages. That's great. It feels like a little appetizer. Just keep biting,
biting, biting. I can't hold my attention longer than that. And by reading the game, I mean,
I went to the glossary and I just read the terms at the end. That works. That's like
even smaller chapters at the back. That works too. All right. Let's get to our interview with the
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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. Listen, I can't call you Mark Callaway. It is
Mark Callaway, but he is the Undertaker. So if it's okay, we can just say the Taker or the Undertaker
for the rest of this interview. Is that all right with you? How about you? How about you, Taker?
Even the Taker is a little formal. So let's just do Taker. How about that? Mr. Taker. Okay. So,
Taker, we are, you are joining us. You have a documentary out that is phenomenal on the WWE
network. It's called The Last Ride. Episode three is going to be airing on Sunday. You can start
streaming it at 10 a.m. We watched, I watched the first two and I guess I'll start there because
the second episode, which again, you got to watch it because it's awesome. The scene of you going
to the hospital and all the different surgeries you've had, has there ever been a moment that you've
been like, this wasn't worth it? Nope. I love that. I can't think of one. You know, it's one of
those deals. You know what you're getting into. You know what the business is. It's, you know,
it's physical and, you know, do I wish I had the surgeries? No, but do I regret? You know,
no, I don't have any regrets. And, you know, so far they've all turned out pretty good. So,
until somebody screws something up, I'll just keep rolling the dice.
What's the number? How many surgeries total so far? Like at this point?
Uh, I think it's 17, 18 probably. That's so many. Wow.
I've always heard that sometimes the hardest bumps take the most pain that you're in
aren't necessarily like the worst long-term injuries. What's the hardest bump that you've
ever had in the ring? I tell you, the years ago I was working with Yokozuna and I'd give him a
kind of a flying DDT. Now, Yoko at the time probably was closing in on 600 pounds, his body
weight. He hit, he hit like a half second before I did on the mat and it drove up a piece of wood
that caught me in the ribs and snapped two of my ribs. That was, yeah, that was pretty,
that was pretty painful. And obviously I've had a few recently, you know, the,
the, the bump that I had in Saudi when I was working with, with Goldberg over there.
I think, I think that one was, I don't know, probably it was a couple of inches from being
probably catastrophic. God. And, you know, that just, I think there was just a lot of
the way I hit on that one. I mean, there's like, it kind of sent out nerve impulses to all my
injuries at once. It was like an electrical charge went through my body. But yeah, but I've had some
good ones. But I had a lot of weird things happen, man, in the ring. It's, it's, I don't even know,
after 30 years, I have to, I have to go through the, the roll of decks of memories to find out all
the, you know, all the bad bumps. There's been quite a few. When was the last time you were
surprised by something that happened in the ring? Like you saw something for the first time.
That's a good question. Thank you. Man, I tell you, I don't even know, I don't even know how to
answer that. I mean, because I feel like you've seen everything at this point. At this point,
you know, jumpers, they're not, you know, you're used to seeing jumpers. You're used to,
you know, ropes breaking. There's just, I mean, it's all kind of happened at one time or another.
So really, I don't get too surprised anymore. What about, what about one of your most famous
matches? I'm sure people ask you about it all the time, but the hell in the cell match with,
with Mick Foley, mankind, that match is probably my favorite match of all time. Was there any
moment during that where you're like, Oh my God, like he is so, so hurt and he's still going?
Yeah, that was, so, you know, when I threw him off, I mean, that alone, you know, I tell people
this and they think I'm full of shit, but you know, I kind of had like an outer body experience
when I threw him off onto the table is like, I could see myself standing up there and I could see
Mick falling and it seemed like it took an eternity for him to hit that table.
And then again, another, you know, it seemed like forever before he actually moved,
but the, the one through the cell, when we were both on top and I choked slamming through the
cell, that thing, man, I was, I was legit, I was legit worried that, you know, he wasn't going to
get up from that one. Is he the toughest person in the WWE? He'd have to be, man. I tell you what,
you know, Mick knew where his will house was and, and, you know, and that's the way he,
you know, he designed his matches and like some of the bumps he's taken is just like,
poof, they're, they're, they're off the chart and he is, he's got to be, if he, he's definitely,
he's definitely top five. That's for sure. When you're in a match like that or any match where
it's very, very physical, how much talking and dialogue goes on with your, you know, the person
you're, you're wrestling with just checking in, making sure they're okay. It depends. Like, you
know, there's a lot of it has to do with, you know, what your camaraderie level is with that,
that particular talent. Now, if something happens where it looks kind of funky, like that didn't
look normal, I mean, you just kind of check in, you know, make sure, all right, you, you know,
you're still there. You're still cognizant. And then there's a lot of times where you know it hurt,
but they're okay. And then you just, you know, you just talk shit to them. Yeah. The,
can we bring up the streak? The streak was the most impressive streak in all of sports history,
I think it's the one streak that you could talk, you know, like Joe DiMaggio's streak or something
like that. But I think your streak is the one that will never be touched the WrestleMania streak
21 and 0. I was there the night that you lost. I was shocked when you, when you did lose, was
there like, did that, obviously everyone knows wrestling and there's, you know, the show must
go on, but was there a feeling after that? Like, man, this really does kind of suck that this
streak is, is over. Yeah. On a personal level, of course, I mean, it's, you know, selfishly,
selfishly what I have liked to have gone, you know, 25, 26 and 0, of course, I mean, that would
have been, that would have been the greatest, probably the greatest record in all of, you know,
wrestling, but business is business. And, and, you know, you just got to go with how, you know,
sometimes you're up, sometimes you're down and, you know, the most important thing out of that one,
out of, you know, afterwards, I mean, I was concussed. So I didn't even remember it. So it was,
I was more concerned afterwards about my head, you know, my head to stop hurting and
being able to come out of the dark for a couple of weeks. But the streak, it is what it is. Like,
you know, I just, I double checked with Vince and I said, are you sure that's what you want to do?
And, you know, he was like, Mark, if it's not him, who's going to, who's going to,
who's ever going to beat you? Right, right. And I was just like, all right, I mean, it's your,
it's your call. And if that's what you want, then that's what we'll do.
How many days before did, did you have that conversation with him? Because I'm always curious,
like, can you say like, Hey, how about, like, how about I keep winning? Come on, like, let's,
you know, let's maybe just keep this going. It had gone back and forth. I showed up that day,
thinking I was going over and it changed the day of. Wow. So you didn't really,
he doesn't leave you that much time to argue with him and to be like, Hey, let me change your mind,
Vince. Well, like I said, we had gone back and forth. And then, you know, I just talked about,
and like I said, once again, I just had to, all I wanted to make sure is like he was,
that he had thought it all through. Because by that point, the streak was,
you know, it was whoever was the main event. And then there was this, then there was the
streak, you know, that was, there was two things where the two kind of the most important things
of WrestleMania. If you weren't, if you weren't in the main event, you definitely wanted to be
against the Undertaker trying to break the streak. So obviously when you broke it, you lose that
aspect of WrestleMania. So I was just, I just wanted to make sure that he was confident. And
and that was the decision that he felt comfortable with. And there's the rest is history, I guess.
Well, I want to say that I'm partially to blame because I'm, I'm somewhat of a jinx when it comes
to sports. And that was the one and only WrestleMania I've been to. So, and I have the reaction shot
because we're filming ourselves. And like, I was shocked. I was heartbroken. So I'll own like at
least 1% of, you know, jinxing you in that spot. Well, man, I really appreciate that. Yeah. Did
you ever get in touch with a guy wearing the just say yes shirt, the guy that was so incredibly
surprised to see you lose because that's one of the all time reaction gifts. Yeah, you know, I've
never, I've seen pictures. I've never met him. But you're right. That's a real iconic fan shot,
just the look on his face. It said it all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have a similar,
not to that expression, but a similar like how did this just happen? The so speaking of gifts,
I don't know how active you are on social media. But do you realize that your career is so intertwined
with how people use social media, especially watching sports and like this crossover that
like when a team comes back, you know, it'll be your hand coming out of the dirt or you coming
out of the casket. Like you, you are, your wrestling career has crossed over where the gifts,
people who don't aren't even fans of wrestling can use that in all types of situations when their
sports team makes a comeback. Right. Yeah. It's, you know, never in a million years would I have
guessed the career that I was going to have. Honestly, I've been very blessed and obviously
very appreciative of that. But yeah, you just never can imagine that kind of stuff. And you know,
I've got a lot of family and friends that just wear me out, dropping them, you know, dropping
them to me. You know, some good, some bad, some funny, some not, but it's kind of cool to know
that you have that, that impact across so many different genres of entertainment.
Uh huh. What about the, I think it was the match against Brock Lesnar where you just look at him,
you stare him in the eye and you just start laughing when you guys are both sitting on the
ground. What were you laughing about in that moment? So that, that happened in the, uh,
I think that happened at SummerSlam. That was after the, uh, that was after the WrestleMania.
And, uh, I don't know. We did something where we both, we, we, we both took bumps and then I did
my, you know, the signature setup. Yeah. He was up and then I did my setup and he started just,
he started laughing. And so mine was kind of a, uh, evil, sarcastic laugh back at him. And
I was shocked at the way people, you know, that they were so like,
enthralled by that, that fact that we were laughing at each other. Yeah. Yeah. It's a,
it's a great video. It is. It really is. Um, I'm always curious with this, because you've been
part of so many iconic matches and also matches that are like push the boundaries, you know,
an Inferno match, a Hell in the Cell, a Buried Alive. Was there any match that was proposed to
you and you're like, that's too far. Like we can't, we can't do that. No. Um, you, when you're young
and you, you think you're invincible really. And so anything they throw at you, you look at it,
you know, like, okay, well, how are we going to do it? And then, you know, the WWE doesn't leave
anything to chance, right? I mean, it's well thought out. And, uh, the one match, I guess I
lifted eyebrow to a little bit was the Inferno match. Yes. Yes. Fair. Um, you know, I was just like,
wait a minute, like, how are we going to work and do our stuff with the ropes, you know, on fire?
Yeah. I think that's a fair concern. It's just what he's saying that matter of fact. Like, hey,
hold on a second. Yeah. So, um, so that one, you know, I lifted a brow on, but you know,
they told me how they were going to do it. And, um, you know, of course I was in there with Kane,
which I had that most confidence in. So, uh, it turned out to be, it turned out to be really good.
And, uh, fortunately he got lit up and I didn't. Yeah. So speaking of Kane, we've had him on the
show and I, you know, we told him, but I'll tell you as well, I think the, the storyline of you
and Kane and Paul bearer is the greatest storyline that, that has ever been written in the WWE. When
you, when you have that all like told to you, like, this is what we're going to do. Did you have that
feeling like, Oh my God, this is going to be incredible. Yeah. Just, but just, I mean, as soon
as it was presented to me that my brother Kane was going to show up. I mean, my, my, it just,
it all clicked immediately because when I first started, like my first couple of matches, I was
Kane, the undertaker, right? And we dropped the Kane part of it. So it just, so there was just
already backstory to it. Why did the undertaker take his brother's name early? You know, and then
it just, it just grew and grew. And then, you know, Paul bearer being, being Kane's dad and
it was just, but the half brothers, it was just, it was so many layers to it. And, you know, it was
like, it was like a really good episode of Jerry Springer. Yeah. So pop. Yeah. Paul bearer just
threatening you like, I'm going to reveal your deepest, darkest secret and like, what is this?
What is this? It was, and then the fact that you guys are both just mammoth human beings.
It's, I mean, I would assume you've been, you know, through so many years of wrestling, would you
say the attitude era in like the late and mid to late nineties was the kind of heyday of, of what
you've seen as a wrestler? Yeah, I tell you what, the, you know, so when I, when I first started
in 90 business, it was really good. And then we, you know, we had a bunch of bad, you know, things
going on. And I mean, you know, we were wrestling and I could have took a handful of rocks and
thrown it, not hit anybody. The arenas, the arenas were so empty there for a while. And then we
battled back and then, you know, then, then the, the WCW started coming in and, you know,
writing checks to everybody. So all the top guys started going down south. And then they were,
you know, they were kicking our ass and the ratings again. But man, when the attitude era hit,
and that, that took off in the Monday night wars, then that was, that was the best time ever.
It really was good. Yeah. What is the secret to selling a stone cold stunner?
The secret to selling a stone cold stunner is make sure that you slam on the brakes about a
half second before he does so you don't get your teeth broken. And then you just, you know,
you just bounce, bounce up and, and bounce back. And there's a, there's some really classic
stunner cells through the, through the rock always had a great stone cold stunner cell.
Vences was horrible. It was bad. That was bad. Yes. I think the rock had a spinal injury every
time he got stunned, like his whole body spasmed. Yeah. He would end up side down with his feet
up on the ropes. And I mean, he just, yeah, he must, I don't know, Steve must have just
added some extra juice on those because they were, they were, those were always pretty entertaining
to watch. Speaking of which, how, how awesome is it to know that you have a finishing move that
has been grandfathered in that other people can't do as a power driver? Yeah. I mean, that's, you
know, it's pretty cool. I'm sure, I'm sure somewhere down the line, somebody will, you know,
I've already guys got infringing or infringing on my, my rope walk. So, yep. Yep. It's, it's a
different, it's a different era now, man. Back in the day, back in the day, you know, I would have,
I would have had to show up and, you know, invite somebody into the shower for a talk, but this,
you know, I'm not around enough these days to, to sweat it. So settle this debate that I've
always had in my own head. It's debate with myself. Uh, when you're coming in for your entrance music,
which is iconic, have you ever had a moment where you're like, how long, how slow can I actually
walk to see how long I can make this last? Because you've had times where it's like,
it feels like 25 minutes go by and you're not in the ring yet. Yeah. So a lot of times that would
just depend on my opponent. Okay. Like if I was working with somebody that, that was pretty limited
or I, you know, I thought I was going to have just a really shitty match with. I was like, man,
I got to get, I'm going to get my money's worth out of this entrance. So, so, uh, yeah, there,
there were times that, yeah, I would, I would take a little bit of extra time because I knew
the match was going to be horrible. So, uh, I figured I might as well give it to him on the
entrance because they're going to, you know, they're going to be disappointed once this thing,
once this bell rings. Yeah. Yeah. Is there, has there ever been a time when you've been
bored in the ring during an actual match? No, not, not in a match. Now, I've, you know,
I've watched a lot of boring matches and, but like if something's going bad, like if I'm in,
especially if I'm in a tag or, or, uh, you know, we used to do some really different things when
we'd go overseas and have six man tags, just kind of to preserve everybody. So, you know,
everybody's not just completely beat up every night. It kind of just, you know, it just makes
a little bit easier workload. Um, you know, I'd be standing on the apron and just,
just cutting loose on people, you know, cussing them out for doing stupid things in the ring and,
you know, trying to coach them and tell them, you know, what to do and quit doing what they
were doing. And of course that, you know, that never helps during the course of a match I found
out later, you know, everybody's, you know, everybody's ass was already puckered. So, you know,
but you live and you learn, but, uh, sometimes you just have to figure out ways to entertain
yourself. Yes. Yes. I, so I'm always curious with this. The, you are universally acclaimed as
one of the best wrestlers of all time, but you're also talked about as one of the greatest locker
room guys of all time. There's no one who says anything bad about taker. So what was your approach
and how is it different when it comes to being in a locker room with a bunch of guys who you
might have to be competitive with, who you are competitive with, but being more of a teammate
in, in less of a like, I want mine more than not, you can get yours. So I never, you know, when I
came up and when, you know, and I was green in the business, you know, the guys didn't help you at
all. Right. And if they did say something a lot of times, it was completely wrong and they were
just trying to screw you up because everybody was so protective, you know, of their spots.
You know, once, once I got to WWE and, you know, I got into that character and everything was rolling,
it was like my mindset, my mindset was, okay, I got to make, I got to make people better
and I got to get people, you know, I have to be able to help create people so that we have
new talent coming in and new fresh people to, so I was always trying to, if, if, if you show just
a little bit of, you know, of motivation and, and, and inspired to work, then I would help guys.
And then, you know, so I think both sides, you know, both sides would see that
like the office saw, okay, you know, takes trying to help these guys and then the, you know, the
boys are like, man, you know, takes doing this, you know, this guy on this spot in the card is
willing to help me. So I kind of built a trust on both sides. And, you know, it was, it was strange
because just it kind of went against what our business was like, you know, there were the boys
and then there was management. Right. You know, and the boys never trusted the management and
the management was always like, oh man, the boys are going to screw something up.
So I kind of ended up, you know, fitting somewhere in the middle. So I was trusted on both sides.
The guy, I was always one of the boys, but they also knew with me, business always come first.
You know, I mean, it's, it's no secret that, you know, we, we had a pretty serious nightlife
back in the day, but it was never, it was never allowed as an excuse for, you know, coming in,
being sloppy or getting in trouble and all that. I didn't, you know, I wouldn't put up with that
kind of stuff, but, you know, it was just, it was just a weird dynamic and, and, you know, that's,
that's how all that happened. It was just like whatever's, whatever's good and whatever's going
to make the business better. That's how I took the approach to things.
So speaking of, you know, partying back in the days, who was the best drinker that you would,
the legendary drinker that you'd go out with? Other than me? Yeah, other than you.
Well, we had, we had a, we had a pretty strong crew there. I'd have to say, you know, Yoko was
up there. Godfather was up there. Bradshaw, he could, he could put them away. Yeah, we had some,
we had some serious connoisseurs of brown water. How many beers could you take or put away in one
night? A lot. I never, you know, I never, I never counted. It was always about having a good time
and unwinding and it was never like set out to like, oh, I'm a, I'm a, you know, I can drink 38
beers and 20 shots of Jack. I mean, it was just like, you know, and I kind of took it as my role
because, you know, I had, I had a nice spot and, you know, if you showed up wherever we were at,
you know, I felt kind of a lot of times it was my obligation to, you know, share the wealth and
buy drinks and make sure everybody had a good time. There you go. I love it. I love it. Going
back to your entrances real quick, rank your favorite entrances, like by theme, because you've
had some of the best songs of all time in American history accompany you on the way into the ring,
American Badass by Kid Rock, Rollin' by Limp Bizkit. The list goes on. Yeah, I'd have to say
because I just, when I, when I did the switch from Undertaker to American Badass and then using,
you know, Kid Rock's song, I mean, it fits so good for what we were trying to do. I mean,
that had a lot of juice and then when we lost the rights to that, you know,
you know, Limp Bizkit was, you know, that worked too. But the, I think for the,
for the entrances, you know, just, I think the old school Undertaker entrances with,
you know, the smoke and the fire, one of my favorite ones is when I came from underneath
and I had all the, you know, I had all the shadows and it looked like all the souls from hell were
trying to grab me and that was one of my favorites. I mean, we've done so many, you know, that, that
production crew is so talented and, you know, they can't, they can't wait
that, you know, those couple of days before Mania for me to come in for rehearsal just to,
you know, show me what they've come up with and, and then, you know, we tweak it and there's,
there's been, there's been a lot. So I don't know if you are a religious man,
but I assume you've been in a church at least a few times in the last 20, 30 years.
Do people give you a weird look? They're like, dude, you're ministry of darkness. Like,
where's Visra? Like, what are you doing here? No, you know, funny enough, they don't.
I would. I'd be like, what's going on here? My wife, you know, she got me to start going to
church again and I was telling her like, I like, babe, I'm telling you, when I walk through those
doors, you know, there's going to be thunder rolling and lightning strikes and I had myself
convinced. I was like, you know, people are going to think that, you know, yeah, the devil has walked
in here and, but it was, it was all fine. But, you know, you get, you kind of get in your own head
sometimes about stuff like that because people, because I've been so protective for so many years.
Right. Like, people only got to see what I let them see. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So in my mind,
I'm thinking, wow, they're, you know, well, maybe they'll be, they'll be okay if I'm not in my hat
and my coat. Yes. Yeah. You bring up an interesting point because, you know, you, you have been
protective about your personal life. You haven't been doing too many interviews until, you know,
just recently. Has that been a positive thing? Like, have you felt that it's been therapeutic to
be able to open up a little bit about things? Yeah. I mean, it wasn't, you know, when we started
doing this docket, honestly, the mindset of it, I just wanted to, so the rest of my knee with Roman,
I thought was going to be it for me. I was so beat up and, you know, I needed, you know, I needed my
certain, my hip fixed and I was pretty determined that that was going to be it. So all of this
thing started out by me just wanting to kind of document those last couple days. And, you know,
and then next thing you know, we're three, we're three years down the road. And, and then we have
all this footage and now we have this, this, this docu series, but it's taken me a while to, to feel
comfortable, you know, talking like this, you know, I'm like the, I'm a dinosaur. As far as our
business goes. I'm the last guy probably to try to protect Kay Fabe and, you know, I cringe, you
know, I'm getting it over it now. But I mean, I would cringe when I would hear people, you know,
just talk about the ins and outs of the business. You know, is this like, oh, god, you know, but
it's, it's, it's where we're at. And, you know, it's a sign of the times and that's where we are. So
it's, you know, it's kind of cool. I think, you know, people have been wanting for years to, for me
to, you know, kind of peel back the, the curtain and let them see. So that's kind of what, that's
kind of what we ended up with. And, you know, the more, the more times I talk about it, the easier
it gets. And, and it's, yeah, I guess it has been kind of cathartic to be able to talk about
certain things that, that I've just completely, you know, not ever attempted to, you know, bring up
or talk about. Yeah. In a weird twist, it's like the fact that you didn't break Kay Fabe for so long,
the fact that you were so secret for so long is helping this project that you're working on right
now. Like it, it actually has become a huge benefit to you because everything that you say, it's like,
you know, brand new stuff from taker and it gets pressed all the time. So it's been great for promotion,
I would think. Yeah. I mean, it has because, you know, there's a lot of times like, wait, who's
doing what? He's doing what? He's, no, you know, because years I just had to turn all that stuff
down. You know, I turned down other, you know, outside projects because to me, and what my mindset
on this whole process was, is like, I can't go and do, you know, I can't like go and do a movie
where I'm, you know, I'm a different character and then come back and then try and be undertaker.
Right. Yeah. It was just too big of a disconnect. So everything got put on the shelf. And then,
you know, just here within the last couple of years, have I even began to attempt, you know,
doing social media and then now obviously here we are with this, with this docu-series.
But, you know, yeah, I'm a work in progress, I guess.
All right. So I'll cross off the question. I was going to ask what happens when you get buried alive,
because I was convinced as a kid that you actually were buried alive. So if you do want to keep that
off the record, that's fine. We don't have to ask, we don't have to talk about that.
But what happens? Well, I won't go into the details of how it's done, but I was,
I was buried alive. Yes. Okay. Thank God. Okay. Your eyes, your eyes, you know,
there's only so much that we can do. Yes. Yes. Okay. You were buried alive.
All right. There was dirt on your, on your design. Yes. There was dirt, there was dirt on my person.
Yes. Yes. I'm happy I asked that then. All right. So I have one last question.
Everyone go watch the last ride. It is on WWE Network. It started episode three is coming out
Sunday. This is kind of a morbid question. And I take her, I want you, you're one of my favorite
wrestlers of all time. I want you to live to 120, but is there a part of you that thinks it's kind
of cool that like when you do someday die, people just won't believe that you're dead. Like I won't,
I'll just be like, he's going to come back. He'll be back. I'll be, I'll be waiting for you to walk
down, down, uh, you know, WrestleMania in like 40 years, be like, here he comes out of a coffin.
This is awesome. Yeah, man. You never know.
You live on, you're immortal. You're immortal. Well, there wasn't a rumor a couple of years ago.
Yes. You're immortal. There was a rumor that you did die. Right. Right. Right. Oh yeah. You're
immortal. It happens all the time. Right. And you just, I will forever until I die, I'll be like,
here comes Undertaker. Like he will, here comes his music. They, all I do is hit the music and
I'll be like, here he is. Yeah. Well, we'll see. Hopefully I better not lose that music then for
a while. Yeah. They can't take the rights back. Yes. Hold on to that music. But I think it's
just cool because you're just, it's, you know, it's obviously because I grew up in the attitude
era, but there's something about your character and everything, all the work you've done. It's
like this guy is immortal and it's fucking so badass. Well, I appreciate that man. I really do.
Thank you. Yeah. One last, last question. Then we'll let you go. We ask all the wrestlers that
come on the show this, have you ever sneezed in front of us? Have I ever sneezed? I think actually
I leave the room. Yeah. That makes sense. Even you're afraid to sneeze in front of us. I get away
with a little more than a lot of people probably do. Yeah. Oh, I also read, what's this about?
You're scared of cucumbers? Okay, let's get this straight. Now, we've had a good conversation.
I'm not scared of cucumbers. I just don't like cucumbers. Okay. It's not like you're one of
those videos with cats where you put a cucumber on the ground next to a cat and it jumps because
it thinks it's a snake. I just like the idea of Undertaker, the biggest badass ever. If you just,
if you bring a cucumber into the room, you can make him a little kid. No, I'll probably leave
the room. I mean, I'm not going to run. You'll walk briskly out of the room. Yeah. And if they're
whole, that's one thing. But if they're cut up, no, that's just, you know. Oh man. Just like the
cucumber man is a wrestler that can basically be used. That's how you should have lost in
WrestleMania. The cucumber man just coming out, slinging cucumbers at your face.
People would have bought that a lot more. Yeah. Yeah. I'd have slipped on a cucumber.
Yes. Yes. Is that good for pickles too? Man, the Herald, my neck's starting to stand up.
All right. Well, I apologize for that last question, but this has been awesome.
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first up. We got a not to brag what we called it. What do we call? So we call the sex dolls.
Yes, the sex dolls being put in the stands. So there I believe it was the it was a soccer
league that was forced to apologize for using sex dolls in place of their empty seats, which
if you're going to have a surplus of sex dolls, why not put them in seats? I don't have a problem
with that. I'm actually more offended that they apologized to us about putting sex dolls. Yes,
in the stands and they are that they actually did it. I agree sex dolls. Although now that I'm
thinking about it, sex dolls are in high demand probably right now in quarantine times. So maybe
they're we shouldn't have them go to the games. It's a waste of sex dolls. Yeah, send them to more
needy consumers. Yeah, in sales. Yeah, it also brings up an interesting point, which is when does
a sex doll become a sex doll? I think it's after you have sex with it. Oh, I don't think it I
don't think it's a sex doll. It's just a doll. It's just a friend. Yeah, it's a doll until you
have sex. True. But were these already sex sex dolls? There might be one guy on like quality
control at the sex doll place. Just one pump on every doll to make sure it works. And then you
ship them out in which case then yes, they are sex dolls. Are they like retrievers like a golden
retriever, which even before it retrieves anything, it's still a retriever right by its very nature.
Yes, the dog. So that's an interesting debate that I think we need to we need to explore a
little bit further here. But I feel like until penetration occurs, it's just it's just it's
a man doll. It's just a doll. It's just like it's no different than like any doll, really some dolls
really just it becomes a sex doll when somebody else finds out that you had sex with right,
right. All right, let's do our Mount flush more Mount flush more of business decisions.
Now this is completely random that we picked this topic has nothing to do with anything that's
happened this week. I mean, there's a lot of talk of negotiations going on right now, right?
People just turning down the Joe Rogan stuff. Yeah, Joe Rogan stuff. No, the Joe Rogan stuff.
Yeah, Joe Rogan stuff. But so this is the Mount flush more of business decisions. So basically
the worst business decisions ever made. PFT goes first and then Hank or then me.
Okay, yeah, I go first, right? Okay, all right. Okay, right off the bat. This is an easy one blockbuster
not buying Netflix for $50 million. Yep. So they had that offer back in I think the early 2000s.
Blockbuster was like, no, people like coming into our physical retail locations for the smell.
Yes, which to be fair, the blockbuster smell is a great smell. Yes, I will give that to them.
But much like subway where the smell inside of the subway is delicious. I'm talking about the
sandwich restaurant, not the not the train place. But the product behind the smell does not live up
to the smell. So they had the opportunity to squash Netflix and they didn't that was an easy
number one for me. Okay, I got an easy number one as well. It's Ronald Wayne, the famous businessman
who sold 10% of Apple in 1976 for $800. Well, in today's money, that's 100 billion dollars.
But I'm doing the math. Yeah, it's a little short. That's probably like $5,000 in today's money.
Yeah, so that one's tough. He would have been part of the he was part of the like co founding Apple
team and wanted out. And yeah, that's that sucks stuff. Honorable mention goes to Bill Gates for
bailing out Apple and bringing them back in to compete against himself because Steve Jobs was
his friend. Iron sharpens iron. Hank, your first pick. You guys just took two of mine. I'll go I
guess with the red socks trading the Babe Ruth best baseball player of all time for the rights to a
play. Okay, that's that's like it seemed like the right idea at the time. Probably probably a huge
mistake. What was the play? No, no, no net. Have you seen it? Have I seen it? No, it might be good in
1918. It might be a jam. Also, Hank, you the fact that you didn't have to deal with any of the heart
break from that you didn't have to deal with Babe Ruth curse. Yeah, I did. For how many years? I was
12 years old. Oh my god. Yeah. Oh my god. I was 11. 2003 was was terrible for me.
Okay, good. Good first pick. My second one. I will go with ESPN cancelling barcel van talk
and making an entire demographic of young male adult sports fans hate them forever.
Good pick. Okay. Good pick. Why only male? Well, demographic demographic. We have a we have a large
young male demographic. I'm not saying we only have I'm just saying that demographic we possess
as well as females. Yeah. Okay, I'll go with those those those sick fucks at ESPN only care about
you know the male demo. Yeah. How about my screw my second? It's just it is. It's disgusting. My
second take. I'll go with I'll go with the the record company Decker records that turned down the
Beatles. Oh, I'm down the Beatles. And it's a deep cut. Yeah. And and I mean, that's basically the
worst business decision ever to turn down the Beatles. They went in audition for them and they're
like, nah, we don't want you. Wow, that sucks. Wasn't wasn't there another beetle that also
beatles. He passed the Beatles. Yeah, I think he got kicked out in favor of Ringo. They're like
no, it was a five man. It was a five man. Okay. All right. Pretty sure. But yeah, dancing guy.
Imagine being the record record executive who turned down the Beatles, which I'm pretty sure
they are the number one selling artists of all time. Yeah. Drake. Pft. His boy. Drake is it.
Or he is the most number ones. He is the most number ones. Yeah. Spotify platform that nobody
knows. Like whatever the whatever record the Beatles have like the most number one,
like records or gold, whatever the fuck you call it, Drake recently passed them.
Okay, in streams though. No, no, the Beatles were, no Beatles were around right now and they were
streaming dead. Like I think 20 number one hits. Yeah, they would have hit after hit after hit
after hit second most billboard hot top 100 top 10s. Hang on, Liam is coming to the offensive
Drake. Oh, but I guess Madonna is actually in first. So it goes Madonna Drake Beatles.
Okay. P best was kicked out of the band. He was the drummer. He was kicked out of the band.
That's tough. That is tough. Look, but he was kicked out. So that was a good business decision
for the Beatles. All right. My next one, I'm going to go with I'm going to go with the Mets
Bobby Bernier contract not because it's unheard of in sports because there are a lot of contracts
that are set up in that spirit these days. But the fact that it was the first and most visible
of those contracts and we get Bobby Bernier day every single day or every single year. I mean,
it was the first of July. Yeah, I think something like that. Yep. And everyone brings it up all
the time. Whenever it happens is like, Holy shit, I can't believe that the Mets did this.
They're still doing it. They're still doing it. And it's going to happen in about a month and a
half from now. It's going to be great. My third pick is going to be Cam Newton in the Super Bowl.
Bad business decision did not jump on that fumble. Everyone talks about it to this day.
And then he didn't talk to Pete Prisco after the game and answer for himself. So he doubled
down on his mistake. Yep. I'll go my next pick. I'll go with Mark Cuban, not buying 10 percent
of my brain. He's an idiot. That was a dumb business decision. I'm going to make I'm going
to make that money back. It was for a million dollars. He regrets it. One million dollars.
And he got all my lifetime earning from that day forward. How now some may say if he had given
me a million dollars, I would have just basically quit everything and thought I was set for life
and done nothing with my life. But you would have risk you got to take. You would have taken the
over. You would have put a million dollars. I would have made another million dollars and I
wanted to give him. Think about that. Come on. What an idiot. Your picks. I will go with Adidas,
not like putting a good enough pitch together for Michael Jordan. When he actively said that he
wanted to go there and was going to take the Nike meeting, but his mom convinced him to.
Probably a huge mistake, concerning he sold like a hundred million dollars worth of shoes
in his first year. And then my last one, I don't have one. So I'm going to think really quick.
Okay. And I'm just going to go. You could go with a draft pick. What? Yeah. What's that count?
I mean, business decision. I still believe in Darko, though.
A little bit more time to learn the American game. Do you want you want one of mine? Sure.
Crystal Pepsi. That was a bad business decision. I enjoyed Crystal Pepsi. No, you didn't. You liked
it because it was novel, but it wasn't. It wasn't special. I think back on it with fond memories.
What about the burger with the black bun? Didn't they do that? Didn't Burger King do that?
Or, oh, I don't think we can say it. Well, no, we can. Chicken fries? I love chicken fries.
Yeah, but they came back. They came back out. What about how about Mr. Wonderful passing on
Listerquil immediately when he saw you? Sure. Let's go with that. Okay. Okay. Good one. All right.
My last one is Frederick Weiss not getting out of the way of Vince Carter. Worst business decision
he's ever made. Yep. Yep. It was the most vicious nut dragging dunk in history of basketball.
Sometimes the worst business decisions are the ones that you don't make. Right. So he just got
posterized forever. Literally, there have been better dunks. There have been dunks that are
maybe more memorable, but there have never been, there's never been a dunk quite like
a full on ball sack to the face in live competition. Yep. Yep. That was a bad one. That was a bad
one. My last one, I'm going to go with, I think it was News Corp. They bought my space for $580
million. And then they sold it later for $35 million. It took a little bit of a bath on that.
They were thinking that it was going to be the next Facebook or they thought it was going to be
the first Facebook when they bought it. They were wrong. But shout out MySpaceTom. Good for him.
MySpaceTom got paid. You don't hear about him anymore. You don't, he's not like influencing
elections and get called before the House of Representatives. He's not being mocked because
he's grilling meats in front of his big green egg like a robot. MySpaceTom is just chilling
with probably $250 million in the bank. So shout out him. Yeah. That's a big shout out him. Any
other ones that we missed? I had the dudes, well, pets.com. I don't even know who, no one made money
off that, right? Or someone did. No one made any money off the internet in the early 2000s. Well,
Mark Cuban, dammit, excite the search engine could have bought Google for $750,000 in 1999.
That's tough that they passed on that. Yes. That's a really bad one. How much is Google worth right
now? The entire world. Google owns the world. A gazillion. Also, Steve Jobs, when they were
creating computers, wanted to just work for Atari. That was his life stream is to design video games?
He was like, we're using your instruments to build this computer. Like, we'll just work for you.
And Atari was like, no. No, thank you, Steve Jobs. Yeah. That was tough too. Yeah. I also had Mark
Cuban not investing Big Cat's brain on my list. That got taken. That was a dumb move by him. The
XFL not signing me. That was also a very bad business decision. The reason it fell apart.
Absolutely. Some say. Yes. All right. Any other ones? Softbank. Softbank invested in WeWork.
They give him $10 billion at a $47 billion valuation and didn't really do any checking
behind it. They just met the cult leader that runs WeWork and they're like, this guy is hypnotizing
me. So here's $10 billion. Let's see. Oh, Billy football going to college. That was a stupid
business decision. Changing to wide receiver. Yeah. Changing wide receiver. Yeah. That was a dumb,
dumb business decision. I can't think of any other bad business choices recently. No.
Any that are like Barstool related? Oh, yeah, that one was probably bad.
You fuck you. But yeah, that's it. Okay. Now I'm out for business decisions.
Nothing else in the news. All right, let's finish up guys on chicks. Hank, take it away.
Hey, daddies. What's up? I recently got involved with a sugar daddy who's been paying my bills.
Now with the pandemic going on, he informed me that he couldn't afford to keep this up because
he was out of work. He offered for me to move in. I am attracted to him, but he also doesn't know I
have a long distance boyfriend and he will definitely find out if we live together. What should I do?
I mean, the whole sugar daddy relationship. I mean, if he's a sugar daddy and he's fucking
out of work, like how he's got to have more sugar, like a month. Like a diet Coke daddy.
Yeah, right. A saccharine daddy, an aspartame. Don't do it now. You don't. Yeah, this is flying
in the face of what a sugar daddy relationship should be. And I like how he's like, he's trying
to make up for the fact that he can't buy you anything right now by saying, well, maybe we
could just spend all our time together. Yeah, so maybe you could hear me take a dump. Yeah,
sounds like this is a bad deal for you. This is a bad business decision if you do not do it to go
with the saccharine daddy. Yes. Would you guys rather have as many kids as Philip Rivers or have
one kid who hates sports and won't talk slash watch slash attend a sports game? I think one kid
Philip Rivers, I think one kid because there's just more sports for me. I don't have to spend
money on on tickets to games. That would suck. But that's like, and it's kind of the option.
That's not how it works. That's not how it works. I still have to take my kid that doesn't like
sports. No, you have to hang out with your kid. He wants to play magic. I'm going to the game.
I can't relate to that. No, we're going to the game. Yeah, multiple kids, nine kids. Yeah.
Give me nine kids. Dude, how's full of love? It's like Michael Scott. You never have to worry
about having a friend. One of those kids is going to make it to the NBA. Exactly. Odd's.
Well, not one of your kids. Is it weird? Is that me, Hank? I mean, it depends on you,
Mary, I guess. Is it weird for a guy to call you mommy during sex or for two twin brothers to
have both called you mommy in separate sexual encounters was assuming you fucked two twins
was assuming they got breastfed too long. But maybe it sounds weird as I think. Okay,
this is one of those ones where you think you're telling us about someone doing something weird
and you forgot that you're actually telling on yourself for fucking a pair of twins separately.
It's every girl's dream. Am I right, daddy? We love twins. You spilled the tea on that one.
You're like, look at these weirdo twins that I keep fucking saying mommy. Although wouldn't
it be pretty cool if you just you made up a twin for yourself? You think anybody's done that?
Where they tell a girl like, hey, I have an identical twin and then you get to go over later
and you're like, hey, I'm my twin's brother. Except I like, I don't I'm not interested in
dating you like my twin is just like having fun keeping it spicy. Yeah, the fake twin, the fake
twin. It's an interesting concept. All right, here's another lead Barry. Hi, boys. Last year for
my boyfriend's birthday, I rented out an entire box for him and his friends at a game for my
boyfriend's favorite hockey team. He supported this NHL team his whole life. And their center
is his current favorite player. The problem is I was able to get the box at a friendly rate
because I used to hook up with said player. We're still cordial and he has new girlfriend. So
there's nothing bad going on. But I still have never told my boyfriend because I worry it will
make him unhappy. But recently, my boyfriend joined Instagram and saw that this player follows
me and is curious as to why. What do you think the right move is here? P. S. Go ducks. Go what?
Ducks. Oh, I thought she said go ducks. I was like, you're fucking Jimbo Thornton. Jimbo
Thornton. I don't see a center. Yeah, I don't think he's on the ducks. That's the sharks. Oh,
yeah, sharks. I meant sharks. Um, I don't know what to move is here. I do not know. I think the
it's going to be a real test of how big of a fan he is. She's a real fan. I'll dump your ass.
If he's a real fan of the team. No, he'll ask to watch. Yeah, he'll be like, Hey, let's get him
over. Yeah. He's a real fan. He's a real fan. He'd be like, I'd rather support the team than support
you and have to worry about you. Like he is what better way to support the team than sharing love.
The issue I have with this is I feel like saying like we haven't hooked up in a while,
but I just hit him up for a box. That doesn't that doesn't really jive. That's true. That's
that's not a smells a little stinky to me. That's not a we used to have a thing. People don't.
I don't care how rich people are. They don't give away free boxes. Like that's just not something
that people give away price. Like a discount price. Okay. All right. Maybe. Um, I would just
not tell him, not tell him what, what should she say for? Why does the guy follow? I'm hot.
Aren't you jealous? Isn't this awesome? Your favorite player thinks I'm hot. Do you think it
if you're a massive fan of this team and you find out that like your girlfriend used to date
one of your heroes and a date is loose? Yeah. Doesn't that make you feel better? You're like,
Hey, her, her top two flings of all time are my hero and me. Like it makes you feel like you're
in the same league as that guy. Maybe wait till he gets traded and be like, fuck that guy. He's
like, fuck that guy. And she's like, I have. And then just hope that that and then, and then he says
what? And you're like, what? And then whenever, if he does ever find out, be like, no, I told you
that time you said, fuck that guy. I said, I have. So the biggest key in this is to make sure if you
decide to tell him that you used to hook up with this guy, you have to make sure that his friends
don't find out because he's going to get roasted in every group chat that he's ever on for the rest
of his life. All right. Well, I ended with this one. Hey guys, just want to know if this was a
normal occurrence or not. So my boyfriend's dad bought a boat they keep in Dewey Beach, Delaware,
and this weekend his parents won't be in town. So he wants to go boating. We've done this many times
before, but this time he asked if I would take my top off while we're on the boat. Obviously,
he's seen me naked. I know, congrats on the sex. But he said he has a fantasy of topless girls on
boats. Is this normal? Hey, man, what's the worst that could happen if other people see me topless
riding around the bay? This is a way to really, way to really get romantic, dude, to ask your
girlfriend like days in advance. Can you take your top off for me on the boat? Like, dude,
just have have a little sense of the moment. Just wait till you're on the boat. And then, yeah,
then sweet talker and like try to play around a little bit and see what happens. Wild thing.
But like, hey, send her a boat this weekend. A condition. Here's a calendar invite for one
p.m. on Saturday. You're taking you're taking those Tadas out. Well, wait till we're at least five
miles out to see and big cats. Absolutely right. It's just because he watched the pain. He's going
to try to honk the boat horn with his dick. And it's not going to be big enough.
Tell him that. It's like, I know what you're trying to do. And guess what? You're not Tommy Lee.
It'd be funny if if he is like subtly recreating all his favorite porn that he's watched growing
up. Like, he's like, hey, I'm going to take a break from going out by the pool. Can you come
into my bedroom and just like be wearing a bikini top and then say, hey, what you doing?
Yeah. Hey, can you can we turn these lights off real quick? And I just want to come on your back.
And then you can have your own reality show. Hey, can you act like you own this hotel that
we're in right now? I click on a prostitute coming in. Oh, my God. Yeah. Doing the parasol. Hey,
I got this. I got this taxi. Can we just can we fuck in the back for real quick? I like this.
This guy, you know, he's just knocking down. Yeah, but he just killed the romance. So I would say
maybe next time try to be a little more romantic about it. That's what you got to do.
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