Pardon My Take - Tom Crean And Jon Taffer

Episode Date: May 29, 2018

Lebron owns the East (again) and the Warriors tried for 15 minutes and beat the Rockets (2:20 - 7:55). Recapping the Conference Finals and what we were doing when Lebron last missed the NBA Finals (7:55 - 13:40). The Stanley Cup Final started and we're still not worried but a little concerned with the Vegas EDM concert they held on the ice before the game (13:40 - 18:59). Who's Back of the week including Bam Margera and Kobe Bryant (18:59 - 32:47). Georgia Head Coach Tom Crean joins the show to talk about Grit, his past year in media, his decision to Coach in Athens, and how he would recruit us if we were 5 star prospects (32:47 - 68:49). Segments include Jon Taffer calling in to set the Mayors Bet for the SCF, Talking Soccer, Trouble in Paradise for Kyrie Irving not going to Game 7 and a Stay Classy for Joel Embiid.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we have our good friend Coach Tom Kreen. We visited him down in Athens, Georgia during Grit Week. Fun time because it was actually the one-year anniversary of our first time with Tom Kreen in the back of Annie Woodhead. And we also have a mayor's bet with John Taffer.

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my take, and you might be a lucky winner. Let's go. Welcome to Pardon My Take, presented by SeekGeek today is Tuesday, May 29th, and the last time that LeBron wasn't in the NBA Finals, we didn't have light bulbs, cars, and Steven Seagal was working on Bitcoin One Gen. Right, imagine Dragons hadn't released their first smash hit single yet either. It's a real fun meme that's going around where basically Darren Revelle has captured all of our minds and we all get to play this fun game called Time, How Does It Work?

Time travel back to the year 2010 when everything was different. Oh my god, Facebook? No, that still was around. Twitter was around. Twitter was still good. Hey, remember when Twitter was fun, when there was like four people all saying what they had for lunch that day? Yeah, Twitter was great when it was just me and like my best friends.

So LeBron is back in the NBA Finals. I have an apology I have to make. That's very big of you. Yeah, so I'm going to say I'm very sorry to Hank. Hank, I'm sorry that I was so right about this series and that I basically made a blueprint for you exactly how LeBron was going to rip your heart out. I apologize for that. Next time I won't do it and I'll let you just die a blissful ignorant death.

Thank you, big cat. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to speak for Hank and say thank you for apologizing to him. That was really nice of you. LeBron basically does own the city of Boston. He owns the Eastern Conference. He owns the entire East. There's nothing that, we've had this discussion many times.

Everything the sun touches. Yeah. In the last few months, do you want to be the guy who tries to predict when LeBron will stop winning the East or do you want to be the guy who's like guess what, LeBron is still the best player in the world and he's going to keep winning the East until he decides he's not going to win the East. And you can be in the former, but just know you're going to be wrong basically eight years in a row and then maybe in like 2025 you'll get it right once and you'll be like look,

I told you guys, LeBron over the hill. Yeah, when LeBron goes out to the Lakers next year, then he's not going to win the East. That's when you get your reprieve. Nate Silver actually still has the Celtics as more likely to win the NBA title than the Cavs. Yes, he does. Actually, you figured it out. Nate Silver doesn't factor in analytics.

That's what that is when LeBron turns on and playoffs. We're going to get to analytics when we talk to the Rockets. We'll definitely get to analytics in a little bit, but I just want to say that, did you notice LeBron's hat after the game? No. He says there is no magic pill. Oh, except for kind of hiding in plain sight there, LeBron. I actually know a magic pill that helps you be better at sports.

Yes, you put it in your ass. Well, you can put it in your ass. Yeah, or your mouth, butt stuff, whatever you want. So Hank, where were you last time LeBron didn't win the East? I was in high school. Okay. Oh, also just another quick fact, last time LeBron didn't win the East, MJ was still 6-0 in the NBA Finals.

Oh, that's a great fact. Hank, so you were at the game. Just walk us through what happened. Well, in the beginning of the game, LeBron, he had a couple of turnovers like the second period and he sighed deeply like it looked like he had just given up on his team. I sigh. Okay. No, but his body language was like, I can't do it.

This is not the year. Hank. This team sucks. I'm not going to go hard. Hank is right in this respect. I honestly do believe that LeBron looks around at these bum-ass calves and he's like, all right, if no one's going to help me, I'm going to give up. And then Jeff Green magically started helping him because the Celtics, I texted you in the

first quarter and I was like, I think the Celtics are going to win because George Hill was breaking threes. JR Smith was breaking threes and it felt like no one was going to help and the Celtics had that moment where they're up like 12 and they should have been up 20 and they just couldn't extend the lead. And then JR Smith, he probably woke up from his smoking haze and was like, oh, wait, I should hit some threes. And they came back and they cut it at halftime and that was like, that was enough for LeBron.

And we talked, I think last week on the show about how unimpressive LeBron James is, really, really impressive run has been just because he's gotten us so used to it because he drops like 43 points every night. And I figured out the key to it. The key is, if he just had one game where he scored 50 points instead of 49, everybody would be like, oh, holy shit, that gets people, that gets, it gets a buzz going because you can say 50 burger and people love saying 50 burger. MJ scored a lot of 50 points in the playoffs.

MJ did have a few 50 points. Just saying. More than a few. When you look at that box score of... If you would imply three PFT. When you look at the box score for the Cavs averages during the playoffs, it's so fucking hilarious. MJ's averaging like 37 points and then Kevin Love is the second best at like 11 points.

He had 35, 15 and 15. That's pretty good. And that's just stupid. And he played all 48 minutes. That's pretty good. You know what it was? The chance weren't as good as I was. I was led to believe that Bill Simmons had some chance that we're going to turn the

tide of the game. Hank, how much blame do you put on yourself and your fellow Bostonians for not following Bill Simmons blueprint to how to defeat LeBron? Yeah. You are leaving. Yes. You have a bigger in the history of Boston gave you commandments for how to attack LeBron James and you ignored them.

Yeah. I didn't hear a chance the whole night except for defense, defense. Bad sports town. So listen to Bill Simmons. I mean, Hank, where do you live? Because it's foolish for anyone. It's like one of those things. In the instant right after the game, I saw a lot of people tweeting like the Celtics

should be proud of themselves for this season and they should. And then a lot of the backlash is like, that's loser talk. But the Celtics clearly have like a really nice window that's opening here. We're talking window. Oh, yeah. No, they got a window. Glory hole. They got a window.

Glory hole is opening, Hank. But that you when you're at home game seven and you shoot whatever it was seven for thirty nine from three and everyone kind of besides Jason Tatum just shit their pants. That sucks. Yeah. I think you can say that the Celtics still had a good season, but they still choked in game seven. But it's much more for me.

Like it's like the Celtics all LeBron in the beginning of his career. Yeah. No, you know, when he went to Miami, he choked a couple of times in the finals. So you could say that despite him being the best player in the world, he's not clutch. He's not good. And then 2016, like it was kind of hard to deny three and one. But if the Celtics could have beat them this year, then you could have. You could have retaken that narrative.

2016 was the time when you're like, fine, LeBron's OK. Yes. And then this year, it's like, he's OK. But you know, he might not have it. And then after this, it's like, there's really nothing you can say. He's old. He's still like dominating everyone. No, you're right.

Like it sucks. Yeah. You could have just done the men in black or like memory eraser thing on yourself for the last four years and be like, see, I told you, I was right this whole time. Yeah. No, but the funniest part about being at the game was that Kendrick during time out to Tyloo was nowhere to be found. It's just Kendrick Perkins just screaming it.

Yeah. Yeah. And Kendrick Perkins within all time picture after the game where he put on the hat and the shirt and took a picture with the Eastern Conference championship like ball or whatever it is, making it look like he put in, you know, 35 minutes a night in the series. One thing that you can hang your hat on though is because LeBron keeps getting to the finals and losing, you can say that he might be the worst general manager of all time. Like combined with the talent that he's surrounded himself with, there's no worse position to

be in than losing in the NBA finals every year in terms of draft picks. Yes. So he's doing a poor job of building that team. So and there's still hope for 10, 10 finals. Yes. 10 finalizes is still alive. So it's been a demoralizing like 24 hours. It's really like not.

And Duke lost the lacrosse championship. It must be really rains of pores. It must suck to be a Boston sports fan. You guys just slash Duke fan. You don't get any of the luck. Slash Duke. Yeah. Really, really tough time.

Now we missed this last week, but we are doing LeBron James free agency updates where we where we unleash our sources on the world. I think we've already reported that LeBron James will not be signing with the jazz and who'd you say? Magic. The magic. Jazz and the magic. So round two, I can exclusively report LeBron James will not be signing with the Toronto

Raptors. Does he hate Canada? Oh, okay. I'm going to exclusively report that he's not signing with the Portland Trailblazers. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. They want them.

Dane was tweeting at him. Dane was tweeting at him. Well, I mean, but I don't think I'm, I'm, I'm reporting it. I have a direct line with Maverick Carter and they've ruled out the trailblazers. Well, Nike's right there. I know. I wouldn't rule them out so quickly. No, I did.

Close proximity. Do you trust the sources or not? They don't have internet and telephone. So you have to live where you work. And the best, the best possible thing for this gag would be for us to get one of them wrong. If he goes to the jazz, right? Like that would be the best possible outcome for this stupid gag we're doing.

Yeah. All right. In the West. So just like everyone predicted the stupid NBA, the Cavs and the Warriors are playing again. The two best teams. I hate when that happens in sports when the two best teams play for the, for the championship. God, why, why did we even have to play the playoffs?

It sucked away at their two game sevens in the, in the conference finals. And much like the Celtics, the Rockets shot. I think they missed 25 threes at one point, seven in a row. They were like seven for 44. I, I'm going to, I'm going to give though a personal, this is a personal statement loss from me to the Rockets because I was very impressed with the Rockets in the series. I said they were dead, which I technically was right. Not trying to pat myself on the back, but I was right after game one.

They were dead. I predicted a sweep. Yeah. And I still stand by that prediction. But that team has a ton of heart. PJ Tucker, like when a team out rebounds another team, that's just all effort. Like it's just in the Warriors, the Warriors are so good. It's maddening because they can basically play for 15 minutes a game.

They're like, okay, the third quarter and for the first three minutes of the fourth quarter, we're going to try and that will be enough to win. I'm just so glad that I don't have to worry about mixing up Gordon and PJ Tucker, like from watching across the room anymore. Yeah, you did that a couple of times. I've done that couple of years and they're like, well, what do you mean? They're both mini me to Kio Spikes. They're just like little shit brick houses.

So you can't see. You think they all look the same? Yeah, I mean, they're wearing the same uniform. Got it. OK, and both wearing basketball shoes. They are. I mean, do the math. But yeah, I'm glad that the Rockets are just because you're right.

When you said that they played the least interesting version of basketball, you're 100 percent correct. Like James Harden, even when he's when James Harden is on and he's dropping like 45 points and hitting 10, three pointers, he still looks like he sucks. Yes. He still just looks annoying to watch. And but the Rockets, the silver lining for the Rockets is that was like the way they went out, you just do the exact same thing next year.

Hope Chris Paul doesn't get hurt and you might you might have a chance because that was like they have balls in. They prove who knows. I actually think this is I think this actually this rocket team is not a rocket's team that wins the championship, but this specific rocket's team is Darryl Morey's like perfect team where they don't actually win it, but he can walk away being like my spreadsheets were right. Yeah, my style, my style is 100 percent correct.

My money ball is 100 percent true. It was right. So too bad. I don't have Miguel Tejada, but my money ball is perfect. Besides all that, I feel like in 30 years, Darryl Morey is going to have like six, you know, championship banners raised in Houston being like he won all these championships, but he didn't actually win. He did win him on the spreadsheet, but he built a good team in a different way.

And so we have to give him almost beat the war. Almost beat the war in seven games again. Yeah, is it? Yeah, I just want to say I'm not going to do a Rick Riley joke. OK, no, please do. I could have. Please, please do. I'm not going to subject you to the numerous hack capella jokes that I had written. OK, please.

I'm just not going to. So credit to me. Listen, listen, you mother fucker, you do it right now. I want to hear. I want it. I'm taking my shirt off so I can show you my boots. Hack capella. What is this? Pitch perfect for. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I hope they do make a pitch burger.

Perfect. Oh, they are the nerds. OK, good. Pitch perfect. Awesome. Yeah, it is good. Underrated. Really? That was one movie that I held off on for a while because I just want to prove to everybody what a man I am. Yeah, because, dude, we don't watch acapella movies. No, yeah, I watch I watch I only watch movies with with music in them.

Yeah, I don't watch that. Avengers, nerds, pitch perfect. That's a masculine. But I finally gave in and guess what? I'm more masculine because I can say that I enjoyed it. Mm hmm. So how about that? Yeah, I'm in touch with myself. Yes, many times.

Several times a day. Yeah. Do you have another one? No, I mean, that was the main one. I had a couple others. I was workshopping, but that was that was far and away the best. All right. Should we talk about the Stanley Cup final? Yeah, we can talk about the Stanley Cup final. What the hell was that that whole pregame thing?

The pregame ceremony was like 45 minutes long. It was great. I listen. I'm not I'm not like a hockey purist, believe it or not. Actually, no, I am a hockey purist and I didn't like it. OK, embrace the bait. It's 45 minutes. Yeah. And I had nothing to do with hockey. I don't think there was a trace of the night was on skates.

Yeah, well, they were. Well, no, they were figure skates, though. Oh, they were. They had the toe claws. OK, yeah. I think maybe soon. I loved it. I thought it was. It's perfectly Vegas. Like this is exactly I said it out loud. Like this would this look like like a movie from 1982

where they were trying to predict what sports will look like in 2000. And that was like down to the the techno music, the lights, the glass, the mirrors. Mike Tarrico was in a fucking medieval times castle. Like the whole thing was just so perfect. Like Vegas, if Vegas had done the Plain Jane thing, I would have been so disappointed.

They go so over the top Vegas. Yes. They need to have those Cirque du Soleil dudes, like, you know, coming down from the ceiling, sucking in their own dicks. I think they have done that. Yeah, I think they've done that before. Do it again. This is Stanley Cup finals. The eyes of the world are on you. Bring out the pornography. Right.

Have the thunder from Down Under, guys. Just like strip dancing down on the blue man group. Oh, yeah, bring them back with them and fucking get crazy. Yeah, no, it was like the intro to Running Man. Yeah. Except then the guy that just kills everybody is just Tom Wilson. Yeah, I was going to say, blue man group would actually be dangerous because Tom Wilson, like, those are three heads I want to cut off

with my skate. Big targets down there. Do you know any player? No, here's the thing about Willie. He's just clumsy. Never been suspended in the regular season. That's true. He's just clumsy. That's oh, clumsy old Willie goofed up again. Accidentally hit the guy. Accidentally took some guys head off. That's the spin zone he needs to go with

because he's like a big dude. So no one expects him to be as good on skates as he actually is because he's pretty athletic. He's pretty athletic for a big dude. So he just needs to run with a narrative, oh, I'm clumsy. My big body, I can't control it. I'm like a teenager growing through a growth spur. Yeah, maybe he's just got, you know what?

He should get LASIK in the off season and be like, I actually was having trouble tracking the puck. I didn't know that every guy that I gave a concussion to didn't have the puck and hadn't had it for 15 seconds. Right, he was seeing black dots everywhere. I mean, he's got cataracts. Yeah, boom. There you go. Spin zone for you, Willie.

You're right. So I do make fun of Vegas a little bit and I think I'm going out there for game two just because I saw the environment. I was like, I got to be out there. You're right. They perfectly embodied. I like when a city does that. They just own their like weird reputation and they just fucking run with it.

You have to go. Very true to the city. I mean, that whole scene is just, and then the fans are dressed like idiots in like the good way. That's an endearing way I'm saying that. Like they're idiots. Capes, Mark Davis was there. I love the gray helmets.

I don't know what, like that, I think that's kind of a weird thing to be like. It's like I love the Cleveland Browns helmets, but something about the gray helmets are really nice in Vegas. They got some, they got some shitty ice out there. I don't know. Really?

I think that ice is like 15% cocaine. Well, you know how they say like dollar bills. If you have a dollar bill, like it's got a trace amount of cocaine. That's the entire ice. The water in England is 50% cocaine at any time. Oh yeah, cocaine. Yeah.

I think that has to do with the fact they had like a full on Steve Aoki concert on the ice before the game. That probably doesn't help. The Vegas celebrities are so funny. You've got Chris Angel just mind freaking the fuck out of the air horn. Yeah.

Little John, fucking Taffer, who we'll have during segments. We have our mayor's bet, which is big. The other thing I want to jump back to the NBA real quick. But before we do that, I'll just say, I truly am not worried about the caps because they were the better team tonight. They outskated them.

They out hit them. They look really good out there. This is a big momentum game for the city of Las Vegas. Exactly. A lot of emotion in the barn tonight. I'm not worried. Game two is going to be a cakewalk. We're the better team.

We're the better team. Way better team. Way much better team. Way, way, way better. And we've never lost a series when we're the better team. That's very true. Caps have never lost a series against the Golden Knights. Caps have never lost a series since I became a Caps fan.

Yeah. So that's a little same metrics with that. And we've got that answer. But I want to jump back to the NBA real quick because I'm watching a narrative being unborn in real time. Being born in real time like Jurassic Park when they see the wrappers poking their nose out of the egg, even though dinosaurs don't really exist.

And that was a fake thing made up by big textbook companies. The new narrative is that the Golden State Warriors, Hank just took his head and he's like, what was that? Whoa. Did I just blow your mind, Hank? Dinosaurs aren't real. I'm curious what this narrative is. I have a narrative about the Warriors too.

The narrative is that they have had the best injury luck in all their opponents during their so-called By the way, it's time to put in asterisks on the Golden State Warriors dynasty because in 2016, Kyrie got his knee blown out in the finals. Yeah, 2015, yep. 2015. 2016, they lost.

2017, Kawhi Leonard got injured. And so they just steamrolled through them. Got injured because the Warriors injured him. Yeah, they injured him. And then Chris Paul got injured this year. So and then it's going to get, and Kevin lost out. But he'll be back. And the rest of the Caps just look

like they got their talent stolen by monstars. So that entire roster is injured. Can you get it stolen if you never had it? No, that's a good point. George Hill's getting paid $20 million a year. I love it. Good for him. Just throw that out there for the people.

Good for him. But that's a new narrative. They're not a real dynasty. They've had all the luck. I like that narrative. The other narrative, I don't know if you've seen this one. This usually only happens in the first half of Warriors games. Steve Kerr is a terrible coach.

People have been poking at that. He's a really bad coach. It has nothing to do with the fact that he doesn't have a bench. So people like, his rotations suck. Well, his players after the top four guys all suck. Don't you start on Swaggy P. No, but the best part about this narrative

is the Warriors are the greatest team of all time in the third quarter right after halftime. And yet we're still going with this Steve Kerr sucks at coaching narrative. Yeah, maybe Steve Kerr should do halftime adjustments after the first quarter. Exactly. Well, no, he's too busy sunning Steve Aldridge.

That's true. I also think that narrative gets brought up a lot because Mark Jackson's out there a lot just being like, what are the Warriors doing, Jeff Van Gundy? Man, hand down, man down. Warriors don't do that. Yeah, wow. This team was a lot better seven years ago, for some reason.

Mama, mama goes to that. Mama, man, there goes that overrated coach, Jeff Van Gundy. Mama, there goes Steve Kerr breaking another clipboard. What a hothead, Jeff Van Gundy. You should throw that son of a bitch out of the league, Jeff Van Gundy. Oh, man. Mark Jackson definitely thinks if Steve Kerr gets fired,

he's like, I might get a shot here. Mark Jackson wakes up every morning like, this is the day that my name replaces Wally Pipp in the Lexaconda, like great players and coaches that got replaced. But you know what? He's safe because he says so much stupid shit during telecast that I don't think anyone remembers.

I love Mark Jackson, though. I really do. I love Mark Jackson. I mean, I'm ashamed to say it. And you obviously were at the game, but he was saying that Terry Rosear made the right call trying to dunk over LeBron James. I mean, he got fouled.

But he made the right call. He got fouled? Six foot Terry Rosear made the right call trying to dunk over LeBron James. They drew foul. They just didn't call it. There's a lot of balls. Yeah, a lot of balls.

Tons of balls. Tons of balls. Tons and tons of balls. It doesn't change the fact that the Warriors are now, they're in my maybe pile in my fraud collection. So I'm keeping an eye on them. I'm down that if the Warriors win this championship, I'm down to do the Warriors aren't a real blind estate.

They're frauds. We can absolutely sit on that take. Let's squat on it. We'll revisit it in a couple of weeks. All right, let's do who's back. Hank, go ahead. I got a few. My first who's back is Nerds.

So this was two tweets in a row from your boy Ravel today. Oh boy. Someone asked him, Darren, what did you major in college? I majored in theater at Northwestern. Could have just stopped right there. That's his major. Hosted three sports radio shows while there, including the only Colin sports business show in the world.

Contributed to Sports Business Journal, was sports editor of the weekly paper for a year. Broadcast, 50 games, and audited classes at Kellogg. See, OK. I know that he could have just said I majored in theater at Northwestern. This is where I love Ravel. Also auditing classes, all that means

is he snuck into classes that he didn't pay for. He took extra classes. And then to make it worse, because this is one that we were kind of waiting like we were waiting to bring Harambe back. He had to just go and kill it by saying. Oh, I know. It's two years ago today.

We lost Harambe. We won't forget. Hashtag sweet prince. Yeah, so we got to reset the clock on when it's OK. I think he just found out about Harambe Jones in the last month. So hit the button, reset the clock. Now we have another two years before we can ironically bring Harambe Jones back.

Well, what you don't realize is Ravel actually put that in as a draft right after Harambe died. So he actually probably has up to year 10. Yeah. All as a draft. Scheduled tweet. Scheduled tweet. I love it because Ravel, he is like he lives up

to every stereotype that he puts out for himself. He was the kid in like first grade who wore a suit to class. We all know that. And that's why Ravel is so funny, because he is like he can be not shamed for being such a big nerd. Like he loves it. He embraces his nerddom unless you beat him on basketball

or you do the too slow move on him. Then he cries a little bit. He hangs onto that for a while. Is that it? Did you just have one? No. My other one was Patriots, ex-Patriots players that are salty because they got cut.

Oh, OK. And then this like media narrative that it's not that fun to play in New England. Like no shit. It's not. Who came out now? Cassius Marsh. My guy.

Oh, the guy who wore the big eye black. Yeah, well, the cross eye black. He's like if you mix Chris Long with Kevin Pitznoggle. Yeah. That's tough, though, if no one knows you by name. They just know you by your eye black. You're the guy that got owned against the chiefs and you have a cross instead of eye black.

So what do you say? He did an interview. It was like it sucked playing there. I've never had less fun playing football. All they care about is winning. I thought about not playing anymore because it was so not fun. All they try to do in New England.

They do in half a million dollars to play football. They try to get you to be really good at football. And so if you're not really good at football, then it must suck. Yeah. I mean, good for Cassius. I'm happy that he spoke up and that people remember the eye black guy's got a name.

Yep. And then my final who's back is Bam Margera. So Bam is back from the dead. Hell yes. Hulk Hogan tweeted out a picture of him and Bam from like probably 2003. Just said, damn, Bam. I wish you were still with us.

I sure would love to hang out with you again, brother. Love you, miss you, HH. So he killed Bam Margera. Yep. And then he deleted that tweet, right? Yep. And then he said, my bad. Top Bam was Ryan.

All good, brother. HH. So what struck Hulk Hogan to sit down and wish RIP to Bam Margera? Was it like the anniversary of the time that he died? He probably got high and watched Jackass. I did that a couple of weekends ago. Yeah.

That's definitely what he did. And the fact, though, that he hasn't spoken to Bam since Ryan Dunn died. And he's like, man, sometimes he probably picks up his phone and he starts to text. He's like, no, he's dead. Bam sitting at home like, why has Hulk Hogan never talked to me for the last four years?

Already tries to call him and just to hear his voice more time on the machine. And Bam's just been ducking Hulk Hogan's calls for the last five years. Yeah, or Bam picks up and Hulk thinks he heard a ghost. And he's like, fuck, man. Oh, brother. Oh, brother.

Oh, brother. I need a nice cup of mud to get my mind off that. Future Hulk, like Bam probably texted him when he saw the tweet. He was like, hey, I'm alive. Like we can hang out whenever you want. And Hulk was like, oh. Oh, shit. It's less.

I actually never really liked you. I was just trying to get some retweets, buddy. Brother. All right, PFC, what do you got? Well, yeah, first RIP, Dan Ackerwood. I loved them in the Blues Brothers movies. Like I was a comedic genius. Yes.

My first who's back. Actually, I was going to have Cassius Marsh, too. My first who's back is going to be Clowns. Clowns are back. There was a little Caesars. I think it was in like, I forget where it was. But there was a little Caesars Pizza. There was a clown hanging out outside

that attacked the owner of the store or the manager of the store with the baseball bat. And the guy shot him and killed him. Yes, I saw that. Killed the clown. So Florida. It was Florida. Yeah, of course it was.

So yeah, Clowns are back. We called this. Not to brag, we called it. It, too, is coming out soon. So they're trying to get that viral market and going. And I say all the power in the world to the Clowns. I am a Clown guy. No, did you see the mask?

Of course I saw it was scary. No, no, no, no. No. The fucking mask that the guy was wearing. The mask the guy was wearing. It was scary as fuck. Yeah, I don't think that they should show the dead clown, though, afterwards.

Tears of a clown, bleeding clown. I didn't see the dead clown, did you? Yeah. They showed it? No. I got to see that video. It was bad. So my other who's back of the week is Sweating.

So it's going to be like 90. Well, Shorts have been back. I thought you said you weren't worried. What do you mean? No, Sweating. He got to wear a PFT. I'm talking about heat sweats. Ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun.

It's heat sweats, buddy. It's going to be like 89 degrees tomorrow, so that means it's time to bring a second shirt with you to work. Oh, wow, re-relatable. It's not like people all over the world listen to this podcast. Well, hey, if you pay attention to Science Bro, the whole globe is warming up.

Yeah, actually, we should do a whole segment just specifically on the weather in Manhattan. Manhattan and our favorite restaurants and the best barbecue in Brooklyn? Yeah. Exactly. You got anything else? No, because Hank stole my third one.

So I'm just going to go Clowns and Sweating. Sweating is back. Nice. My first who's back is, well, actually, it's kind of who's back, but it's also like a calling the shot is the jokes that everyone's going to make about Vegas fans, the long-suffering Vegas fans deserving the Stanley Cup. So it's a fun little joke that people, usually, it happens

when an Ivy League school wins a game in the tournament, and everyone will say, wow, finally, these guys caught it. Finally, Harvard caught a break, shit like that. It's kind of a fun little joke structure. So expect to see that over and over and over and over until your eyes bleed. It's going to be great. And a lot of what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, my god. I'm blowing my own mind right now just thinking about the hum dingers that Trey Wingo's got cooked up with some hangover references. Little, little Trey Wingo. Oh, hangover one, the original.

Hangover one, the original. Yeah, he's not going in the two words. What do tigers dream about when they dream their little tiger dreams? Yeah. Wolfpack, baby. Wolfpack. Look at the wolfpack out there.

Yeah, they're doing it. Mark Andre Fleury, wolfpack of one. Wolfpack of one. God damn it. All right, my other who's back is Kobe. So I don't know if you guys saw this, but it was the most Kobe tweet of all time. He said on last night or Sunday night, he said,

we can enjoy one without tearing down one. I love what he's doing. Don't debate what can't be definitively won by anyone. Enjoy my five. Enjoy my, enjoy MJ's six. Enjoy LBJ Quest. He just threw himself right into the MJ versus LeBron. Hey, guys, I know it's a hot debate this time here.

They're all saying, who's the best player of all times at MJ? Is it LeBron? Is it Kobe number eight? Is it Kobe number 24? Listen, guys, a lot of options out there. And really, he can't go wrong with any of those guys. All five of my championships were special.

So please don't belittle what I did as a player by throwing us into these hypothetical debates with MJ and LeBron. Don't do that. The best Kobe move ever was he was on Gina O'Reum's podcast. And they asked him, what superstar he'd want to play with. He was like, I think I'd actually

like to play with LeBron. And Gina was like, oh, I didn't expect that. He was like, yeah, because he's such a great passer. So he could give me the ball. He's like, I could score. Yeah, you could just jack up more threes. Yeah, Kobe, though, that's a great tweet by Kobe. Just reminding people that somewhere out there in like

Temecula, someone is standing for Kobe to be in the MJ versus LeBron debate, even though everyone with two eyes and a brain knows that he's not. He's the writing candidate for the GOAT conversation. He's Ralph Nader. He's Ralph Nader slash Lincoln Chafee. Yeah, great.

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Ooh. Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests, and it is Serendipity, because it is grit week, and we are in Athens, Georgia with Coach Tom Kreen. Last year we were in a party city parking lot in Vanny Woodhead, in the back of Vanny Woodhead. You were out in the wilderness a year, and you are now the head coach,

head basketball coach of the Georgia Bulldogs. And by far the coolest thing I did the entire year was hang out in that van. I definitely got more attention for that. Oh, actually, so many years ago. So this is actually a big thing. You mentioned it was your anniversary today when this show comes out.

Yes. We got you a little present. We didn't know it was your anniversary, but the first thing you said to us when you came into Vanny Woodhead was, oh man, you guys got Dunkin' Donuts, that's cool. You really loved the idea of Dunkin' Donuts, because you didn't have it in Indiana.

Well, we got you a little treat. Oh man. We got you a $100 gift card, no free ads. Wow. We found where it's to. $100. Yeah, pretty nice. The most you might get from somebody is like 25,

and if you're lucky, 50. The woman at the catchers was like, this is a really special person. I was like, you have no idea. It would go to great use, no question. All right, so Coach, the last year you were doing media. You were missing the game of basketball. What did you learn in the last year?

I mean, you basically, I feel like Tom Kreen came out of his shell in the last year to the public. Well, for somebody like you who had a totally different read on me, maybe. Well, yeah, I mean, I still took the pictures. Yeah, we'll get to that, yeah. Oh, I knew. Yeah.

When you do this interview, you're throwing caution to the windman, let's ride. Yes. But what did I learn? I learned that, again, you never let any circumstance, situation, or person take your spirit, create doubt, take your confidence, and how you live inside of that.

You know, while you're trying to see new things, learn new things, do new things, be a part of it, it's so important that you never do it in spite of the fact. You're reeling from something, you're doing it because you're really excited about it. And that's what the year ended up being like for me. Met a lot of great people,

was able to spend more time around some people that already knew, was able to see a lot of different things, and then getting involved in the TV side of it, and being able to not only call games from the analyst seat, but being able to be in that studio seat. I never watched more college basketball in my life ever, not even close, but I also had a great, great time.

I felt like I was learning something all the time. I want to jump into something you mentioned there, and you said that you have to do something not out of spite, but you have to move past that and do it because it gets you excited. Sure. How do you kind of focus yourself away from doing out of spite?

Because, you know, you see, maybe you broke up with somebody, you get like a really good beach body for that summer, and it's like, hey, I'm doing this, just rub it in your face, you know? But like, how do you get past that point and be like, okay, I'm gonna do something because I'm excited about it? Well, you don't give people that credit,

especially when it's people that make a decision that you don't respect it, and it doesn't, I mean, you have to deal with it, it doesn't mean you have to accept it. I think if you accept it or you dwell on it, then it kind of takes you away from what's most important, which is making sure that you're better, which is making sure that you're enjoying it,

because so many people are watching you, and it starts with your family. And far and away, I mean, the thing that was so fantastic about this past year was watching how my family handled it, because it was the first time ever in their lives they weren't a part of a team. It was the first time in my wife's life ever,

she was born into a team with her dad, she married into one, as an assistant coach at Western Kentucky when she married me 25 years ago. It was the first time she'd ever had that, same with our kids, but they flourished. I mean, they did a great job in it, and we were able to really move forward in so many ways, and not let people that really at the end of the day,

you don't really have respect for the people that made the decisions, I don't, you do not respect, I don't respect them. So the worst thing I could do was let them have that say over me, mentally, okay, about what I was gonna try to do. Did you ever for a second think that you were gonna stay in media?

Because I thought you were fantastic, and I think a lot of people thought that as well, but did coaching always have that pull on you? Like, I gotta get back, and I have to, I'm not gonna do maybe another year of TV, because you see that sometimes. A guy goes into the TV booth, like I guess John Grun's a bad example now,

but a guy goes into the TV booth, he's like, hey, I actually like this, this is kind of fun, it's a little bit easier life, and a lot more, you get to travel around like that. Dude, was there any part of you that was like, I'm gonna stay in media? You know what, people would say, do you miss coaching? I'd say, no, I love coaching.

I feel like I'll go back. Never stop being coach. No, but again, if I would have sat there, it's like the only thing that you really don't get, like I was able to get, I was able to feel the intensity, I was able to feel the energy, I felt like I was learning and adding things, the only thing you don't get is the competition,

you don't get the true, now I got into the ratings, I got into what games were right, I loved hearing some of that stuff, yeah, so you get that part of the competition, but it doesn't replace not being on the sideline, and so I never looked at it like I wouldn't coach, but I didn't also look at it like I have to, like I have to go back,

and the jobs that I talked to and visited with were really good, and when this one came about, it was just at a different place. This was one that, again, had a lot of excitement about this, our family did, I had not been here since 1990. When we came in here, I was with Ralph Willard, my first year at Western Kentucky, and Hugh Durham was coach in Georgia,

and we got in here, we got pasted by 59 points. Geez. But my wife and kids, they'd never been here, but we had enough feeling about Georgia, we had enough feeling about the school, enough feeling of studying the location, that we could be excited about it, and it's been nothing short of that.

There's gotta be a small part of you too, that leaving media, you know that I can't take pictures of your face, like every single month. No, but I think there were people that were trying to, because I would definitely- Oh yeah, did you ever think about it when you were on set? No, but I thought about it afterwards. I thought about it afterwards,

I saw some of your- Because big cats sitting on a couch somewhere. Some of your goombas, you got so many people that are trying to get your guys' attention. I've never seen, there are so many fanboys out there that are trying- If I'm not on a TV when you're on TV,

and I go to my mentions, I'll have no less than like 50 shots of it. Of course, I know what it provides, but you know what, all our ratings go up. Yeah, exactly. Rising tide lifts all the way. I know now that losing is not a bad option in coaching right now.

Having more and more people try to find different angles to blow up my head is a bad angle. That's the- I have the SEC network, so you're in trouble. But there's some other ammo in the SEC, I cannot be. I want to see a big face of Cal Apparel. Okay, we'll get her Bruce Pearl. The bottom angle from Bruce Pearl would be something else.

Cal does the thing. The big change. Bruce looks like you though. I think he really lifts with his upper body. Yeah, he does stock, and he sweats a lot. Cal does the thing where he puts his hands kind of on his hips and he has like a pose that I'll start to get that for you.

I'm gonna do that for you. And the other thing, when Cal, what he does a lot of times is he'll get such a wide base. Yes. Like he'll spread way out. He's boxing out. No one could ever, you can't play sports that way. He gets so wide, you have no balance, you have no leverage.

I want to see somebody blow that. All right, I got you. I'll put somebody on it. I'm gonna send it to you guys. We're on it, we're just gonna do the top angle just from Cal apart from the waist down. You mentioned that you were hanging out with a lot of different people this off season.

I know that's something that you like to do is just be around other coaches, be around other interesting people, and you're like a sponge. You absorb their leadership tips and things like that. I think I saw a picture of you with Belichick a couple of weeks ago. Who was the most interesting person you hung out with

during your sabbatical? Outside of everybody in Vanny Woodhead at the party city in Bloomington? Mm-hmm. That's a tough question. Just dawn on me how shady that whole entire time is. Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's quite a difference a year makes.

But man, think about it. If I'd have thought I was gonna get something from Duncan. True, true. That was awesome. I would say, you know really who I got around that I'd never been around and I'd read a lot about him and I just thought he was like brilliant was Adam Gaze with the Dolphins.

That's not taken away from anybody that I was around. Some of the best stuff was watching Dwayne Wade and LeBron train in September. Oh, okay. And watching those guys go from late on a Wednesday night at the top level of the Equinox Health Club in Sepulveda and LA to two early mornings at UCLA and watching those guys be done by nine o'clock each morning

after lifting or working and watching the level of detail like that was something that Adam Gaze blew me away with the level that he sees the game at, his coaching. That was kind of fun. And again, cause you knew it and you'd read it but until you get around them you didn't really know it and that was fascinating to me. Have you had any conversations with Dwayne

about possibly retiring? I have, I have, his son is playing AU basketball now so we saw each other a few weeks back in Indianapolis and that's definitely something that he's going through right now. And I don't think there's any, I wouldn't think there's any quick decision coming with that. I think a lot of things are gonna have to play out and...

What do you do, what do you, like what's the advice you give? Cause you obviously can't tell him what to do. Well, I don't walk away if you still really, really love it. But I think this is the part of him, like he's such a family person and his son is now coming up the ladder as a player and it's fun and he's married obviously to Gabrielle and they're raising that family.

But to me, I support him in whatever it is cause I know his mind, you know, I know how he thinks. I just would never want him to walk away with even the slightest bit of regret, right? The slightest bit. Cause you can't play the way he did at the level that he played at and not have a lot there. But at the same time, to me,

it would make no sense whatsoever for the Miami Heat not to want him back. I mean, everything changes when he's back there. The attendance changes, the merchandising changes, the awareness changes. The Miami Heat are an outstanding program and I'm not shilling for him to be with the Miami Heat. It just is completely different when he's back there.

And I don't think there's any question. He had a hand and then going back into the playoffs the way that they did. Absolutely. But he loves it there. I mean, and that's his place and he was so comfortable going back and he never wanted to leave.

I don't think, I don't think I'm speaking out of turn. He never wanted to leave there. But I just hope he takes his time, really thinks it through. And there's no question he's still at a very good place with his game. And if he decides to walk away, I think he'll do it because he really felt it was the right thing for him. What do you think he, well, first of all,

did you shoot him a text during the playoffs this year when he had that one game where he just went off? Yeah, vintage Wade. Yeah, I said, I was waiting night. Anything interesting happened? No, but I wasn't surprised. I mean, I really wasn't.

When I told him, like after being with him last summer and he'd come up to our place at Indiana right after LeBron left, he brought up Josh McRoberts even though he couldn't do as much because he was coming off an injury. Norris Cole, Mario Chalmers, Donis Haslam. And then we had Victor Aladipo. We had Cody Zeller and we had Jordan Hulls.

And Tim Grover was with Dwayne at the time and he came up and it was about two and a half days. Never forget going out to the airport. Dwayne chartered some major jet to flying from LA, put Mario Chalmers on the plane, Tim Grover. And we had three really good days in there. And I thought he was good. So you wouldn't know when you say three really good days.

You had all these guys playing, you know, pick up and everything. Well, we didn't really play pick up. No, it was more drills. Okay. It was more, they were like six to seven hour days in there. Wow. We'd have film sessions anywhere from an hour and an hour and a half.

And I would always hear, you know, the NBA, this guy, you know, we only show 12 clips or we show 20 clips or only show seven minutes. That's nonsense to me. Those guys could have stayed in there another hour and a half. Really? If they're engaged and all I did is facilitate it.

All I did is set the film because he wanted Norris Cole and he wanted Mario, he wanted to see what it was like before LeBron was there. All right. So it was like, okay, this is how we played before because Norris hadn't played without LeBron. And it was more like, these are the things that we could do.

It was fascinating sitting in there. And Dwayne to be the first to tell you, as smart as he thinks he is, LeBron's at a whole other level. Yeah. But Dwayne is in another place too. I mean, he could sit there and go through the games and what we would do is then I would have

Victor and Cody in there a little bit. We added some Josh McRoberts, but it was incredible education for those guys. They were young pros. It was an incredible education for those guys to be able to see that. Do you feel a little vindication watching Victor Aladipo kind of reach his potential this year?

Vindication in what way? Just, I don't know. I mean, what's the connection like? Maybe that's a phrase better. What's the connection like to a guy who you coached and then graduates the NBA? How much pride do you take in it? Or, you know, how much do you follow their careers?

Oh, absolutely. Pass their graduation date. Oh, no question. And I think, again, he's finally at a place. The first trade stunned him. There's no doubt about that. And the second trade probably put even more of a chip on his shoulder.

Oklahoma City was good for him. Orlando wasn't bad, but he was being thrust into a situation that he may not have been totally ready for. You know, Victor's alpha dog, but not necessarily, I'm telling everybody what to do. He was thrust into a leadership role that he may not have been ready for at that age. Being around Wester Westbrook, competitive,

true alpha dog, that was really, really good for him. And I thought the Oklahoma City Organization, and Billy, Sam Presti, all those guys were good for him. Indiana's been good because he can do so many things. Victor is not just a guy that has to have the ball in his hands. He's so good without the ball in his hands. People forget.

I mean, not only was he not highly recruited at all, he really didn't run a lot of picking roles in high school. Came up the benches at junior. I mean, he was at an incredibly good high school program at the math. So he had to grow through things. Well, he came in, you know, how he got on the court, even in AAU, how he got in the court in high school,

moved without the ball, tacked the rim, offensive rebound, defend. You don't not have to have the ball to score. So that is vindication. You found a diamond in the rough and in the sense. We found others. And I think what happens is, the ones that have those chip on the shoulders,

they're really ingrained because they've been doubted. All right. They weren't respected as much as they could have been, but they had an incredible work ethic. And then all of a sudden you add to that chip and you don't lose the work ethic. Now, you add to the chip, you lose the work ethic. It's kind of a wash.

You're not gonna be as good. But when you add to the chip and you keep building on that work ethic, it's incredible what can be accomplished. And I've coached a couple of guys that are just like that. The next guy that's gonna be like that is O.G. Adonobi. Incredible work ethic. And all he did in the playoffs was have to guard

Brad Beal and John Wall in one series. They have to turn around and guard LeBron. And he's not even gonna be 21 to the middle of July. Right. So let's talk about what you've been up to in the last year. So you got to Georgia. You're settling in here in Athens. I think you just said you're finally getting a house,

which is nice. We're working on that. You've just been working, you've been sleeping in the office like a football guy. What's the general feeling here at the University of Georgia and what was it about Georgia in particular that made you say, okay, this is the right fit? I think everything's here.

I mean, I really do. I think it's a credible state for sports. I mean, it's all the way across the board. I mean, there's a chance to be more high school baseball players drafted out of the state of Georgia coming up than in any time in recent history. There's so much athleticism here. There's so much passion for it.

And it's football is the driving train, but it's not just football. Now it's, we can play right off that. 82 to 83,000 people for the spring game. We just got to get some of those people to come to the game. Yeah, just convert a couple, yeah. And then convert a couple of listening to the podcast.

No, there's no, convert more than a couple. We'll just help each other. Exactly. And to me, the sports are big. The education here is fantastic. You've got not only the state of Georgia, you've got the city of Atlanta. So you're sitting right there.

The campus is beautiful. The mascot. The mascot, I haven't spoken with him, but I have pen at him. I didn't get a bark, all right? But Aga is world renowned, right? Everywhere, all right? And to me, that's pretty cool.

Like you know, when you get down on your knees to pet Aga, you're in the midst of royalty. Yes. And I'm sure it was great for everybody to be at the Royal Wedding the other day. I hung with Aga on the football field. Yup. That's big.

That's way, really big. That's way bigger. And it's something that I would hope that you guys would get to do at some point, Tom. Yes, still dogs are just as inbred, if not more than the Royal Family too. So you got that going. Without question.

Yeah. You can feel your bad breathing through your nose. I guess that's okay, I agree with you. Yeah. He didn't say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you done the speech? You got to build a wall around the state of Georgia.

I love when coaches come into different programs and they're like, well, first thing we got to do, we got to build a wall around our state and recruit from it. You got to make it a two-way street, right? You got to, like, I think it is, like you got to keep looking like, what's not here? Yeah.

Right, what's not here? You can come and be a part of winning. All right, you come in here and you help us win. All right, there's plenty of room for statues around this campus, right? So we can build some of those along the way. I like that. I like that mindset.

Plenty of room. Plenty of room for statues. Yeah, oh, we got no question about it. Perfect spot. No question about it. But the facilities are here. The education is here. I mean, you got, like, this is,

I saw this stat when I'll go and do donor events now with our president, President Jerry Moorhead and our athletic director, Greg McGarrity, or Kirby Smart, right? And you go in and you listen to those guys. Like, they've got real institutional knowledge. I'm just learning it. But then, like, it's one of the top 16 public universities

in the country with the UNS News and World Report. That puts you at a different place. It's a big-time business school. There's so many different colleges here that are huge. And to me, I think when people come in, because, like, to me, you know, you want to have energy. You want to recruit with energy. Well, I get energy all the time,

whether it's meeting students here, whether it's things that are new. It's all new for me, right? So, like, you want to bring that across to other people. So I think, eventually, as we build this up and people see what we'll do, you know, every place we've been, we've been able to develop. We didn't have any McDonald's All-Americans at Marquette.

We had them after that at Indiana. But whether you're highly ranked, whether nobody was recruiting you, if you have that work ethic, if you've got that chip on your shoulder, if you want to be a part of a team and, like, really be locked in to making people better, why can't you do that here?

And I think we'll prove that. So you kind of answered the question I was about to ask, is are you going to be recruiting a different type of player here at Georgia to play against SEC schools? Or how is recruiting going to change at all? No, I think that's when you get in trouble. I think when you start trying to recruit to the masses and you can't just recruit, again,

and I learned this right away in that first recruiting class at Marquette, Dwayne Wade made one top 100. He had three scholarship offers, Illinois State Bradley Marquette, then at the end it was DePaul and St. Louis, right? So you don't get caught up in three-star, four-star, five-star, who's ranked this, who's ranked that?

And I think the other thing you got to be so careful with is who's recruiting who, right? I mean, who's recruiting who? If we were looking at who's recruiting who, we would have never signed Victor Aladipo. We had one offer, right? You cannot run somebody else's race. So the bottom line has got to be,

what are our key things? Got to have a level of toughness in this league. We don't want to get away from guys that are versatile, multi-dimensional, don't want to get away from shooting. I mean, I think we've had, there's either you're a shooter now or the potential's there for you to really be that. There's got to be a level of awareness.

People say, well, you got to be smart. Well, what is smart, right? You can have a three, nine, eight, you may not be that smart on the court, or you can be hovering around a two, two, and you can be incredibly smart on the court. You've got to have awareness, self-awareness and awareness of other spatial awareness.

I think that's all important, but this is the one thing that I think you got to really watch more than anything. And it sounds corny, but it's so true. Who really wants to compete? Yeah. I mean, competing, that's why, you guys going on a grit week,

I mean, you kidding me? You got to have real grit, real competitive instincts, real competitive desire. You got to have it. Yeah. And you trick yourself, thinking that you're going to put that in somebody. Yeah, you got to want to be able to take a shit

in a Dunkin' Donuts bathroom before you buy a $100 gift card. Not saying that's what happened, but yeah. If you came down to it, we do it. If I had to. So this gift card. I washed my hands, I washed my hands, I washed my hands. You bought it, you bought this after you went to the bathroom.

Yeah, but I washed my hands, yeah. That's better than you buy it that takes it into the bathroom. Right, exactly. It didn't go in the bathroom. Well, that's kind of how I took it in. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Do you, what do you do with the way

the game is kind of evolving? I mean, you've always coached to pace. You've always played with pace, but you see obviously the Warriors, you see what Villanova did where they shoot a ton of threes and this, you know, where you basically have a team, five guys who can all play outside the arc.

Have you kind of shifted your mindset as a coach and how you plan on coaching going forward? No question, and we were doing that at Indiana. We really were. Our last three inside players, so to speak. Cody Zeller, Noah Von Lea, Thomas Bryant, all McDonald's, all Americans, but all guys that either A could play away from the rim

or B didn't end up playing away from the rim. And I think that's so important. I think how you staff, I hired Chad Dollar who had been at South Florida, that he'd been at Georgia Tech, he'd been at Auburn LSU. I hired Amir Abdua Rahim, just hired him from Texas A&M.

All those guys bring something. They bring something in the basketball side, the one hire that I made that brings a really unique approach to this to build on what we've done is Joe Scott. Joe played at Princeton, coached at Princeton, was the head coach at Princeton, he was the head coach at Air Force in Denver.

He takes the Princeton offense to not a 2.0 level, a 3.0 level. And if you look around the NBA, the Rockets are shooting a lot of threes, a lot of driving kick. Maybe they don't have as many Princeton concepts, but the Warriors are full of them. The Celtics are full of them.

The 76ers are full of them. The Raptors have some of that. I mean, five-man movement, being able to move without the ball, having bigs that can not only shoot the ball, drive the ball, but guard the ball that far away. Because you look at the NBA, the NBA is going so far away

from the back to the basket center. They can only play 15 feet in it. I mean, there's a place for that person, but it's not gonna be when it's time to win the game, most times. So, no question. And our nine teams, even with as bad as those first three years were in Indiana,

we led the BCS schools at 3.0 percentage, a little over 38% in those nine years. And over six year, last six year period, we led the Big Ten in scoring. I think it's a correlation. I mean, I noticed because I always love taking the over. That's not, that has nothing to do with us. Yeah, I can't talk about that.

But it's last year. I could have paid attention to that this year. Yeah, Tom Green's teams always play with pace. And I love that because you get up and down. And it's, I mean, like the SEC, right? So you're gonna know that you have to go up against Cal every single year. You said you don't recruit someone else's race.

And I agree with that. Like you can't obviously go after Kentucky guys. But how do you talk a guy like, Cal obviously is the king of one and done. He and coach K. How do you convince guys that, you know, this is the right place compared to the pitch. Hey, you will make millions of dollars in a year

if you come to Kentucky. Well, he's done, he's done both. I mean, he's done a great job with taking guys, making them better. And especially guys that very likely would have been drafted really high to high school and they get drafted out of college. I mean, he's done a masterful job with that.

One and done is gonna change. Yeah, so what are your thoughts on that? Let's get a hot take. We'll get this one out. I think it's really important that once, if I was drawing it up, I have no problem whatsoever with guys coming out of high school.

I think that's fine. I was hoping that it would get to the point where they'd stay two years because I think there's such a maturity jump that you make from one year to the next. And I'm not saying that sanctimoniously, I'm saying that based on experience. But if it stays where you can leave out of high school,

leave after one year, two years, great, then you better be tremendous at developing your team. Because every year that draft comes, the high school player is going to get the benefit of the doubt into the potential. The upside. There's no question. So even on the 19 and the 20 year olds,

so the programs that can really develop players, build skill sets, build fundamentals, have them not only be able to play with the ball without the ball, all right? Those kind of things because the G League is gonna just become such a huge part of not only the development process, but the evaluation process.

So you look at somebody's, okay, we can take him, he can be here, he can be there, he can work his way up. Well, a lot of those kids, they don't have any, 80% of the guys don't have any real belief that they're gonna spend a second in the G League. That they can get in front of you and they can get in front of me and tell me something, tell you something.

They don't mean that. They think they're gonna be on that NBA court. They think they're gonna be playing in the playoffs. They don't think you're gonna be wearing a suit sitting behind the bench, right? So you gotta say, no, no, here's reality. If you don't have these skills, if you don't have this realness,

if you can't make each other better, if you can't help on the ball and recover to your man, if you think the transition defense is not imperative, if you don't think that being physical on the glass, cracking people when that shot goes up, getting by people when you're on the offensive glass, being able to dive on the floor for loose balls, you're not going to play, right?

And you've gotta be able to get that across to people in a big way. And I think the people that do the best job, not only of getting it across, but really holding players accountable for that. Are we the ones that develop the most pros moving forward? But don't get me wrong, you gotta have a high level of player

and bottom line, like our last three games with Kentucky at Indiana. We won two out of the three, but I mean, we're right there, right? And we didn't have those guys that were necessarily recruited that way. But you've gotta be able to, you've gotta be able to equalize the court a little bit

with your spacing, with your ability to play through mistakes, with your ability to use all 94 feet, and you gotta be able to make shots, right? At the end of the day. I like that. I like how you slid in the, by the way, we also beat Kentucky too at the last two games.

That's not a slide in, actually. Yeah, if you're free to use that one. I'm not making that for you. You set me up, man. Yeah, so me and Big Cat are a couple 17-year-olds, okay? We're a five-star, we're McDonald's All-Americans. Well, we enjoy eating at McDonald's, but you come into our house

and you're trying to give us the pitch and you're trying to take us away from Cal. What do you tell us to say? Package deal? Come to Georgia. Yep, package deal. We're twins. We're bros.

We're twins. We're born one day apart. I'm not recruiting twins. And I don't like recruiting people with two first names. Guys love twins, okay? They love twins? Yeah, guys do love twins. But what do you mean?

That's interesting. Twins, like the horse twins, they say we're good. Let's roll. It's unbelievable. It's interesting you said you don't like recruiting guys with two first names because I agree with that. That's been a take of mine for you.

Why do you say it though? Because you know what? You can't trust them. Yeah. Guy with two first names, you can't trust them. Oh man, you're gonna be so screwed when some like Atlanta five-star recruit comes up. You know I'm kidding.

I'm kidding. All right, we're gonna recruit you too right now. Listen, you guys have been together all your life. All right, and bottom line, there's no reason it has to end now. Because if you go to the right place, if you go to the right program, if you guys really dive into what it's gonna take,

yeah, you'll room together. Yeah, we can put your lockers next to each other, okay? You go to the wrong place, you're both gonna be sitting on the bench next to each other. Now how about that? Have you ever had to deal with that? If you've ever been on the bench together, no, no. We wanna put you in the same lineup,

making each other better. We wanna put you in a situation right now where both of you have the opportunity to not only be first round draft picks, but play in the lottery. Because there's gonna come a time when you're gonna have to break up. Are you gonna say no?

If Sacramento wants you at number two, and Dallas wants you at number four, are you gonna say no? Are you gonna break up from him? Well, yeah, for lottery picks, yeah. Okay, exactly. Now, you come with us. Or you can be like Doug Christie's wife.

No, listen to him at where we're at. Just say we're at. Bottom line, you're not gonna break up. You're gonna go two, you're gonna go four. You're not gonna say I'll go to Sacramento too. You wait for me. They've got the 48th pick in the second round. Wait, let me ask you a question, coach.

When was the last time a 5'8 guy was picked to the water? 5'9. It's all hypothetical right now. Listen, stay with me. Stay with me. This is what's wrong with America right now, with the youth, okay? The average teenager's got the concentration span

of seven seconds. Right now, you guys are about 4.5. Stay with me. I'm gonna help you through this. Here's what I see down the road. When I look at my crystal ball, all right? When I look at my crystal ball, you're gonna have a chance to play in Sacramento.

You're gonna have a chance to play in, maybe it's Dallas, hypothetical. You play the way you're capable of. You play the way you're capable of. You two are gonna get to join up again, get adjoining houses. I live in the same city, lake in between you.

I named the island after both of you in whatever city you want. Nice. Because that's how much better you're gonna get. But you need to come with me to have the edge to be able to do that. Because Calipari, he's never put twins in the lottery. True.

That's a glaring hole in his resume. Facts, facts. Exactly. Next question. Next question. Exactly. Or maybe Big Cat and I could both go to the Celtics because don't they still have like a million picks

from the Nets or something like that? Yeah, I'm sure they could use one of our millions picks. Yeah. The more the twins have seven more picks. The more twins might be the two toughest twins they've ever played. Oh yeah. Low passes are right there

and I know I'm forgetting somebody. Yeah. Okay, and we had some pretty good twins here Georgia and the Hayes twins. But bottom line, those Morris twins. They are tough cookies. Can you imagine if somebody, this would be something for you guys to think about.

Built a two on two league. We got three on three, right? A twin league? You built a twin league. Yeah, twins only. Twins only and you put the Morris twins? Be over. Domination.

That's an idea right now. The Plumleys would be pretty good too. Yeah. It got tripled, it got three. Yeah, that's like three of them. The Zellers have three. There's like seven Plumleys. The Zellers have three.

We're talking twins. All right, I have the C key question for you. You put in promo code take and you get $10 off your C key purchase. If you wanna go to a basketball game next year at Georgia, you get $10 off. Oh no, wait, sorry. $20 off.

It's great promo code. Oh no, $10 off because this is going on Tuesday. $10 off. So if someone puts in. Is this legal? No, yeah. It's our show. Oh, okay, good.

It's $10 off. You put in promo code take and you can get $10 off any ticket anywhere. Baseball, hockey, basketball, whatever you want. All right, here it is. Are you bringing the vampire baths to Georgia? There's no question. And here's what you've gotta understand.

Okay, this is maybe of all the things about Georgia the best, okay? We recruited Yonte Maitin when we were in Indiana. All right, Georgia recruited Yonte Maitin. Yonte wanted to work with live animals, okay? Not driving our way to Indianapolis like we could offer. Not work with cadavers, but work with live animals. He came here.

You name it. I mean, we've got it. Fisheries and wildlife. There is absolutely no question to me that we are going to be able to find somebody that has not only raised those baths and trained those baths, but will come in here because I'm going to give them gear and tickets

and bring those baths to our locker room and we won't have to get rabies shot. Isn't it legal in Georgia? That's a dude. It wasn't in Indiana. You can own whatever animal you want. I'm not sure. You know what we'll do?

Vampire baths. I'm not even running it through compliance. We'll ask for forgiveness later. Listen, I had to do the vampire baths. No question. We had to win this game. Yeah, I like that. I think we can get the real ones there.

We could only get plastic. Yes, I think we can too. I need the real ones. Absolutely. Will you come for that game? Yes, if there's a bath in the locker room, I'm there. I'm there two seconds out. Oh, there's going to be, it's going to be plural.

Yes. Okay, we're not going singular. I'm absolutely ready for it. Baths. Baths. Have you thought, so your brother-in-law has a big year coming up? Jim Harbaugh's got a big year coming up, Michigan.

You're at Michigan every year is a big year. Every year is a big year. I was going to kick out of that. Everybody wants to, the guy walked in and has been doing it, right? They had some issues last year with you. They lost all those draft picks, all right? And they lost all those guys to the NFL from the year before.

They had an, they lost their entire offensive line, right? Can I keep going? Yeah, well, yeah. I thought they did a fine job last year. They had to overcome a lot of it. You got to beat Ohio State. Do you think the spot was good? Do I think the spot was good?

Yeah, 2017. No, no, that was a terrible spot. No, it was not good at all. Okay. It was a terrible spot. So, but here's my question. So before the Ohio State. You're actually disgusted.

Yeah, I know it was. It's a terrible spot. I thought Georgia was on sides too. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. The, all right. So Ohio State week. Do you ever think about maybe going up to Ann Arbor

and like letting your brother-in-law beat you in something to get his confidence going? I was up there this year. Yeah. Did you play any sports? I actually got to speak to the team. I feel, I feel a slight bit of tinge that I didn't do a good enough job

and my message to the team on a Thursday night. Wait, you talked to him before Ohio State? Yeah, not, not right before the game. No, no, no. Earlier in the week, big cap. Earlier in the week. Earlier in the week. I wasn't the game day speaker.

Okay, all right, all right. But, did you play any sports with your brother-in-law when you were up there? No, I refused to do that. We stopped doing that at Marquette. He pushed me into a car, playing two-on-two. Wait, wait, wait, wait. All that story.

They're not twins. They're not twins, but if you got it, if you got, if you could grandfather Jim and John in. Yeah. To the twins league. Yes. Absolutely. Even over the Morris twins.

I'm going with Jim. Wait, did he, was the car moving? No, it was parked, but he pushed me in. So what happened? You were playing two-on-two with him. He was upset. I was being maybe a little rough with Jay, who's on that staff.

Now Jay was younger and Jim decided he was gonna, he was gonna stick up for a son. I mean, I'd have done the same thing, but that was it. I played one-on-one with Jim at his place in Florida one time. Jim plays the, Jim plays basketball like a defensive, not a defensive end. A defensive end is trying to get around you.

The tackle. The defensive tackle is trying to go through you. He's trying to go through you. He's trying to go through you. He strikes me as a guy that is real quick to go shirts and skins. Yeah, I haven't done that. And also, he goes down low right away.

He, if you check him the ball, he turns around and starts backing you down. But that's what you want. See, he doesn't, Jim would be a great basketball player because he wouldn't come out and try to be cute trying to shoot jump shots to start the game. He's coming, he's trying to get into the bonus right off the bat.

All right, he's, now he may shoot some jumpers along the way when he's got a little heat check going. Yeah. But he's establishing territory down in that block going through you. We teach trying to get around you. He's teaching trying to go through you. Do you put any stock into his theory

that if you just drink enough milk, you can will yourself to be six foot three? No, no, I don't. Oh, shit. I don't. Stretching. Yeah, but he was also, you got to interview Joni sometime.

I think there's some wives tales. Okay, okay. All right. Joni lived all that. He would stretch himself. I think that had something to do with it. He would stretch himself. You think I could get up to like five, 10?

Do I think you could? Yeah, if I just stretch myself. I think you're looking the wrong way. Right now, put all the focus on the upper body. You're doing all the weightlifting. Yeah. I think right now with the hair and with the strength, you almost look five, 11 now as it is.

Okay. That's the nicest thing in your brain. I always told you, you are taller than you are. I walked off. He's got a little bit of a broad like. I mean, he's a commercial man with both of you with what you're doing. How do you have time to work out?

I have no idea. We don't. We don't. I told you, I only do glamor muscles. I've made a resolution to get in shape with just popcorn muscles is what they call. Yeah. All right, Coach Tom Kreen.

We're somehow life works in mysterious ways because now we are Georgia Bulldog basketball fans. Love it. It's wild. Love it. Go dogs. Go dogs. You have to deal with the dogs.

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Die Hard Capital, so that's John Taffer. All of us. Die Hard Las Vegas, Golden Knights fan. Yeah, Lifetime fan of Golden Knights. So Lifetime fan, so he called in and we set the stakes for the Mayor's Bet. So here he is, John Taffer. All right, we now welcome on the,

I'm gonna actually say he's the mascot of the Vegas Knights. He is the biggest Die Hard there is. It is John Taffer, and we're about to broker a Mayor's Bet between Taffer and PFT, and also Hank and myself and Liam, because we're also Caps fans, people forget that. But actually everybody who listens to our show

is also a Caps fan. We've deputized our entire Army of the Woodwinds and we've been able to do a lot of things as a Caps fan. We've deputized our entire Army of the Woodwind listeners. Which is amazing to me. So nobody has stuck up for the Knights amongst your entire listeners.

Well, I actually, I think it's a great story, although it does, I've said on record that it makes an NHL Candy Ass League, which I'll stand by that, even though I don't really care about that take. People get mad about it, but I don't really care. I think the word, bad for the game was thrown out. No, well yes.

Does that Candy Ass League include the Caps? Yeah, the Knights will ruin the entire league, but the only reason I'm ruining for the Caps is because I have a 15 to one future on them. So I could be bought. If you want to buy out my ticket right now, I will happily root for the Knights. You'll do a heel turn.

If you want to give me $2,000. So this is all about the cash to you. You have no emotional loyalty. Correct. No, but Cad is not loyal. Yes, correct, correct. Yeah, but I don't give a shit. I feel completely different. I'm into this guys.

I've been there since season one. I live here. It's emotional for me. But I got to share with you. As a Caps fan, how many times have you beaten the Knights? I think we lost him twice in the regular season, right? Yeah, we did. Hey, listen, Taffer, you should zip.

You zip is the answer, gentlemen. I just want to put that on the record. And how many times have you lost in the Knights? Twice. Twice, that would be twice. Yeah, twice. Okay, the other side. So this would be the first time you'd ever beat us.

Yeah, in reality, if you look at the games, honestly guys, it's the first time you'd ever come close to beating us. Okay, well, listen, John, as a lifetime Washington capitalist fan, you should know that regular season victories don't mean anything to me. We never put any stock in those. We don't care at all about the banners for the president's

trophy. No. So how do we bet something that is meaningful? I want this to stay for you guys. You know what I'm saying? Okay, well, I'll tell you what. Me and Big Cat had our idea about what you can give up once we smoke that ass.

Like, you know what we're going to do to the Knights? We're going to act like John Tiffer walking into a kitchen and throwing raw chicken against the wall. The raw chicken is going to be the Golden Knights, and I'm going to throw that shit against the wall, and I'm going to shut you down. So you're saying there's no contest at all.

The Caps are going to chew us up, and there's going to be a multi-goal gap, and it's going to be a disgrace for Las Vegas. Yeah, it's going to be like mosquitoes in the squirt gun. In the fruit flies. Yeah, fruit flies. Fruit flies in everywhere. Everywhere.

Disgusting. We're going to shut it down. I'm going to shut the whole fucking thing down. So for the record, you guys are not only saying that you're going to win, but you're saying that you're going to destroy us. Oh, yeah. Are you suggesting you're going to win in four games?

Yeah, sweep. I'm going to call it a- we are going to win. I don't know. I'm not saying that. We're going to win four games. Big mouth. PFT's saying four games. I'm going to say Caps in six.

Well, no, what I said was we're going to win four games. I didn't say we're going to win it in four games. OK, so what do we have? So if they're going to chew us up, then they'd win in four games, five games, maybe six, right? No, we're going to be gentlemen. We'll let you have one or two. I'm just going to give you how confident you are.

We're going to let you have one or two just so that your little rinky-dink franchise can be like, oh, look, we won an important game. Now, we'll be nice. We'll give you one or two, but it's going to be Caps in my official prediction. And don't, Liam, actually, take this out of the show. Don't put this video out here in case I'm very wrong.

Caps in six. Agreed. Caps in six. OK, so we want to get it. I don't give a fuck. I'll give you Vegas in five, guys. I'll give you Vegas in five. The house always wins.

Tell you what, we are going to do a mayor's bet now. Big Cat and I have come up with our terms. And then you can respond with what your terms are. But what we want is, you know, we're big bar rescue fans. It's the best way to get through a hungover Sunday doing the marathon there. Big Cat has done two of them with us. Two of them.

Yes, two times. I want to have a menu item at a bar that you rescued named after a part of my take in some form. So we had a couple ideas, whether or not we do the cream tea that we came up with with Coach Tom Green. It's just tea, but you can put something you can make it fun. Yeah, and steroids.

And steroids, yeah. Or maybe just PMT with TEA, where it's like a nice little whiskey cocktail. Yeah, I don't know. We can actually open it up to the listeners, too. Or it could be, yeah. I think I could agree to that with some conditions. What some of the listeners don't know is, years ago,

I had a cocktail making competition with Big Cat, and now President, they remember that? Yes, yes. Yes. I know what Big Cat's cocktail making abilities are. I'll tell you what. I do the recipe, but you guys will get the name. Perfect.

OK, done. Done. All right, so what do we have to do for you if the Knights win, which they're totally not going to? Because the Caps are the best team. Well, there are two things that are important to me. One, I wanted to make it hurt for a while. OK.

Second, I wanted to try to knock some sense into you guys. If, in fact, the Knights win the Stanley Cup finals, you both have to read my book, Don't Be Yes Yourself, and do an entire episode of your podcast about my book. I'm going to call and question your ass to make sure you're ready. All right, how long is your book before I agree to this? How many pages?

About 170 pages. Is this a real book, man? Jesus Christ. Do you have spark notes? Is that available? Can one of us read half? Do the other read the other half? Oh, no, guys, I'm going for it.

You want to drink named F, you unbarred. Now the confidence you have in your team is starting to show. No, it's just we hate reading. Yeah, reading is the worst. It was basically when you said it's going to make you hurt. I was like, he's either going to make me work out or read. Yeah.

It's like Kryptonite to Superman, is you hold a book in front of me and I run out of the room. All right, I'm down to agree to that. We'll do it because I'm not worried. Like, it's not even going to come to that, so yeah. You could future us. I would bet you a million dollars and be totally fine with it because guess what?

Never going to have to pay it. So after the Stanley Cup, we meet here again. We agree you have a period of time to read the book. Like two years. And then it's quiz time. And then it's a couple of months and then it's quiz time. OK. Any event that the Caps win, then I

got to name eight cocktails after you guys on national television. What about can I maybe throw in this might be me getting greedy, but the next time you do rescue a bar, we put the lobster machine back in the bar. I'd rather put you back in the episode. How about this? OK, all right.

How about this? Not only will I name a cocktail after you guys, you can both be in the episode and do a cocktail. OK. How's that? Done. That sounds good. This is like, this shows, this is an adequate like,

tit for tit here for how much it hurts us to read. And honestly, I would like to do the book report sooner I don't want that wing over my head. Let's just do it in July, if the nights win. At some point in July, don't believe it. So by July, we'll do the book report. Yes. By August.

By September 1st, we'll read the book. Yeah. And the football season. I think it's a. You've got 30 days here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, August is fine. Yeah, by September 1st.

Yeah. OK. All right, I think we're agreed. Yeah, it's a handshake. Hang on, wait, I'm shaking your hand. I am pulling into the, I am just a handshake who's done. I'm pulling into T-Mobile Arena right now. OK.

I'm wearing my night's jersey and my night hat. And guys, when the final bell rings, I'll be thinking about you both. OK. That's boxing, though. All right. I know you guys are new to the South Vegas. The bell is boxing.

In hockey, they just have like a Canadian guy go out there like a horse. It's a horn. Yeah. There you go. When a horn blows, buddy. No, it's the night. The night goes out.

He's dead. Oh, they do dinner theater. They do way too much ecstasy. And he skates around. That's the beginning of the game, not at the end. Oh, yeah, true. True, true. All right, we're done.

It's a deal. That's perfect. Worst of luck to you, Taff. See you, man. Worst of luck to you guys. Bye-bye. I'm still not worried. I mean, I don't want to read this book.

I don't want to read, but I don't think that we're going to have to read. I think this is going to be easy. Kind of bullshit move by you to like, just be like, yeah, we'll get it done by July. Dude, we can't even watch an episode of SpongeBob. And you're like, yeah, we'll get this book read by July. Listen.

Do you remember when we quit the book club? We bought the books and quit the book club. And you're telling me that you're going to, don't put a date. Before the first minute. Since July 2019, I'd be like, OK, that sounds doable. Here's the deal. If it was any other month, but June and July,

I would absolutely think that that was too short of a time frame. But you know what season it is. It's pool season. It's beach season. It's a good book for the beach. OK, yeah. This is crazy.

Listen, chicks dig a guy at the beach that's reading a John Taffer book about not bullshitting yourself. I have to go to the beach like 100 times. It's like three pages before a nap. Every day for like three weeks. I actually think I need someone. I think I'm going to have Bubba take the book

and write them out as tweets. And I'll just read them on Twitter. Well, that's what we're saying. I'll read the entire book on Twitter. Yeah, we'll read a blog. Just like blog it and just click on it. I was trying to click on his book earlier. And you can't click on the book.

It doesn't work like that. It's weird. I've been reading this Tiger Woods book. I looked at my Kindle and I'm 31% through. I've been reading it for a month and a half. Come on. This is a little too much. By the time I get done with this,

Tiger Woods is going to be all the way back. Listen, listen. We're not going to have to read. Don't worry about it. But this is a great opportunity to get Taffer to do that protein drink that we've been talking about for years, which is just our semen. It's caffeine, our semen, protein, and alcohol.

It's like a four loco if you mix it with muscle milk. Yeah, and our semen. And our semen. We have, next up, we have Talking Soccer. So we can go one of two ways here. We have the Champions League final. Gareth Bale. Many years of people are saying that it's actually his team,

not Ronaldo's team. Well, let's ask this question. Did Real Madrid win it, or did Liverpool lose it? Or did Liverpool get Ramos do the, did you see, did you see that an Egyptian lawyer is trying to sue Sergio Ramos for like $1.2 billion for breaking Mo Salah's shoulder? It wasn't broken.

It was a dislocated shoulder. He should be fine. Yeah. If he doesn't play the World Cup, I'm taking his man card. Yeah, that's fair. That's absolutely fair. So man card is, I'm holding it halfway out of his pocket right now.

It's your call what to do with Mo Salah. You're like the rough. You're deciding whether it's going to be a red or a yellow, a man card or half a man card. More like less Salah. Yeah, exactly. Yes, exactly. Exactly.

So yeah, that was Talking Soccer, but it was an entertaining second half. Wait, we have more Talking Soccer. I got one too. US men's team is back. So US men's team, I love soccer fans. I really do because soccer fans freaking out about how good the US men's team looked in a friendly

against Bolivia's second team two weeks before the World Cup that they didn't qualify starts is just beautiful. Did we win? It's Yoko Bonita. Oh, we won, buddy. OK. We fucking won. There we go.

I'm on board. We would have qualified. Tell you what, Trinidad and Tobago, they should be happy that we didn't play our young guys because we would have whooped that ass, that country of 4,000 people. I'm exclusively reporting that LeBron James is not going to be joining the US men's national team.

So that's another one off the list. He'd be the best player. Absolutely. Too much training. Ian Rondo. Yep. Mario Balotelli is also back. Oh, is he?

It's my goal for Italy. And a friendly as well. And they didn't make it either. And Italy is going to be in the World Cup next month, right? No. No, it actually takes a lot of heat off us. Yeah. Because Italy, come on, guys, that's like what you do.

What are you doing, guys? They even have other sports in them. You have like a terrible economy and a soccer team. Romance. Yeah. Kissing and eating pasta. Caesar. Yeah.

That's about it. Yelling at family members. Yeah. Getting, yeah. Getting really angry and having our thing. Yeah. Tony. That's such a point.

I'm not going to do it. OK. That was talking soccer. He kills Christopher. We have a trouble in paradise. He stops his nose, just holds his nose. A trouble in paradise. But it was the right thing to do, given the circumstances.

It was. I mean, he was a junkie. He was a car accident. He was going to die anyway. It was going to be a bad. He was going to ruin the whole family. His long-lost collapse. The FBI was sniffing all around him.

It was a whole thing. He was a liability. You should really watch it. I'm sorry, everyone. All right, trouble. I actually love you guys. Trouble in paradise. Kyrie.

So Kyrie Irving, speaking of having trouble breathing, Kyrie Irving did not go to game seven because he had surgery for a deviated septum, which, and he said he didn't want to be seen, which means he just got a nose job. You got a nose job. You got a nose job. Him and Melania.

Like, Kyrie, do you not realize that everyone knows that girl who said that they couldn't sleep well at night so they got their septum fixed? Like, we've heard this excuse before, dude. You got a nose job. You got a nose job. They filed it down because I was getting too many nose bleeds. And I was getting a lot of allergies and sinus infections.

I almost died in my sleep. And I was so embarrassed because when I woke up, they took the bump out of it. And I was like, hey, I love that bump. Yeah, the bump was so cute. Yeah, it was a perfect place to put the dog thing right over me on the Instagram filter. So I never had to show my nose.

Hank, are you worried about Kyrie electing to have cosmetic surgery the day before game seven? No. Why not? A little bit. Don't you think that it would have been a good teammate thing, like Chris Paul did, sit on the bench with your teammates? Gordon Hayward flew back from Indiana

where he was training for game seven. Gordon Hayward and his other, they both missed different playoff games. Game seven, though. Game seven. It is a weird move. I'm not going to sit here and say it wasn't a weird move. It was a little rattle.

You were a little rattle. But they said you can't fly with a deviated symptom, so. They don't have doctors in Boston? I don't know. Can I ask you a question, Hank? Do you think, a little embrace debate, do you think Kyrie, there was a small part of them that was rooting against Celtics in game seven?

No. Really? Yeah. I feel like when it's your team and your team keeps winning like that, there's a small part of you that you'll never admit that you're like, I kind of wish that I didn't do it without me. I think there's a small part of them

that's happy that Terry Rosier had the worst performance of all time. Yeah, his heart. His heart's the only small part of him. Because if he had dominated and then performed well in the finals, then it's like, whose team is it? But it's clear it's Kyrie. He was definitely cheering when LeBron James blocked that dunk.

Kyrie Irving in that game seven, the Celtics win, no question. Because they literally had the type of possessions where you're like, oh, Kyrie would have bailed them out on this one. OK. What about this, Hank? Are you worried about another trouble in Paradise, which is Tom Brady was on a yacht throwing passes

instead of being at OTAs? There's a yacht in the South of France. He's still working on his game. Odell Beckham. Spending time with his family. The other yacht boy, Odell Beckham, was setting foot all over a practice field last week. Tom Brady was too busy being on a boat.

Did you also see? I want a guy that's more concerned about being the goat than the boat. Did you see to the Tom Brady he was not wearing a belt? He's such a fucking asshole, man. When I don't wear a belt, I look like the fattest piece of shit, like such a slob. And Tom Brady is not wearing a belt,

and he still looks like a model. That's running up the score. That's running up the score, Tom. Just wear a belt. Don't make us feel like assholes because you can rock no belt and still look good. No, that's not what he's appropriating slob culture. Listen, my culture is not your costume, Tom.

Yeah. You can't just wear stupid t-shirts with mustard stains on them and make them look good. That's not what it's about. You don't live the lifestyle I do. Next thing you know, he's going to make it all nice and chic wearing a belt, but missing like four of the loops. That's, yeah, I see it, Tom.

Tom's going to wear a dress shirt to a post-game press conference that the buttons are going to be misaligned on them on the button up. And it's like, hey, Tom, that's my move, buddy. Yeah, way to go. You have no right to make it look good. Two different colored shoes. I actually did that once.

Yeah, just two actual shoes. To actual work, I wore a brown and a black shoe. I just got dressed in the dark, literally dressed in the dark, and I didn't notice until like two hours into the day. I pulled an ultimate slob move over the weekend. Ready for this one? Yeah. So I put on my jeans.

And I put them. Clutch jeans? No, they weren't clutch jeans. Oh, by the way, should I wear the clutch jeans? No. The Vegas? Yes, yes, yes. Should I wear it?

Yes. Should I rock? Yes. It goes to what are you talking about? Actually, literally, like, they, they clutch jeans. I lit them on fire. The penguins, the penguins shove the clutch jeans up your ass. You don't need to put them back on, or don't do that.

Great look, though. If I wasn't such a die-hard cap fan, I would say yes. It's a great look. Wear the clutch jeans to the Stanley Cup Parade. OK. There you go. Got you. But you want to hear about my slob move from the weekend?

So I put on the jeans that I'd worn like the night before to take Leroy out. I took Leroy out at like 9 o'clock in the morning for a walk. I get to the front door of my apartment building. And I'm like, these jeans feel kind of weird right now. And I walk outside. I had my underwear from last night still in my jeans.

You've done that a couple times. That I had to reach. Wait, wait, hold on. No, that was a sock. No, that was your underwear. That was my underwear. You did. OK, so I'm just.

I'm going to stop PFT's story here because he thinks it's a bad story. That's not nearly as bad as the time we were in an Uber. And you had jeans on. You're like, wait, do I have underwear in here? And you pulled underwear out of your pants. And then I had to fucking carry them in my bag. I think I threw them out.

I got halfway through my day. I was like, why am I carrying PFT's underwear around? So you've done that multiple times. So I did that again on Saturday. That's actually twice in the last week. Yeah. Wow. All right.

That's not new. Tom Brady's going to do it and make it look cool. Yeah, he is. He's going to be pulling. He's going to be like a clown. He's going to be like a clown who's pulling underwear out of his fucking pants left and right. I did it, Tom.

All right, we have a stay classy for Joel and Bede, who, I guess his off season training is to just dunk on poor white guys at various parks in Philadelphia. Because it's every other day. He's just dunking on some schlub who can't play basketball. Not everyone that lives in Philadelphia is poor. OK, I meant like. Poor as in like, oh man, this guy has no chance.

Or that. So yeah, he like threw a ball off the kid's face, got it, and then did a windmill dunk on him. The craziest part about the whole clip was probably, I mean, those kids are about the same skill level as the rest of the Cavaliers though. So he's just training for next year's playoffs. Well, and they were running Ty Luz's defense too,

because the guy doubled the post and left Joel Bede open. You can't. So would I. The one NBA player that you're playing with at this park, and you left him open. Yeah. You've got to double down the post. Yeah, got it.

That's the game plan. The Indians justify the jeans, clutch jeans. Talk to yourself and don't do the clutch jeans. If you do the clutch jeans, then I will also give you some money to hedge me out of this bet. Because I don't want any part of it. Also deciding whether I'm going to give you $200 or $300 for the 50-50 on Wednesday.

Yeah, definitely do that. I will put that money. Actually, I'm just going to fucking pocket it. No, you better produce the tickets. You've got to produce the tickets. I'll do it. I'm also thinking about just hedging my. I'll just give you my credit card, to be honest.

I'm thinking about hedging my emotions and just putting $700 on the nights to win. And that way. No, you can't. Don't do that. I mean, it's bad idea. What's the point of going out there? Don't do that.

For the pre-game ceremony? For the pageantry? Do you see that? You're going to get waffled. Chris Angel mind-freaking a foghorn? Yeah. See, that's shit every day. Speaking of waffled, tomorrow's show.

So we're going back to back. Little Drake. We don't have Drake on the show. Unless we don't know that. Well, we don't know. We haven't taped the show yet. So we could have Drake on the show. Possible Drake appearance.

If we don't have Drake. He's going to read guys on chicks. Yeah. If we don't have Drake, it's probably going to be Ryan Whitney and Ryan Russell. The two Rhyans spelled different ways. So you get a little bit of this, a little bit of that, tomato, tomato.

And also, we're going to do a special segment, because we're going back to back. And there's not going to be a ton of news. We're going to have our good friend, Angelo Palantoneo, a.k.a. Rhone. And we're going to do a little brainstorm. Maybe a half big brainstorm. Maybe.

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