Pardon My Take - Tom Herman Rub & Tugs, CFB W/ Tom Fornelli, And NFL With Robert Klemko

Episode Date: November 12, 2018

NFL Week 10 Recap and fastest 2 minutes (2:21 - 8;09). The underdogs were barking on Sunday, the Jets are a mess, Tom Brady is relatable, the Rams bounce back, and the Saints continue to be a wagon (8:08 - 24:18). Football Guy of the Week including Zach Smith going after Tom Herman on twitter and the invention of "ok. cool. hook em" (24:18 - 34:19). Who's back of the week (34:19 - 42:57). CBS CFB writer Tom Fornelli joins the show to talk about the College Football playoffs, who can beat Bama, and why Oklahoma's defense is laughably bad (42:57 - 61:21). Sports Illustrated NFL writer Robert Klemko joins the show to talk about Week 11, Dez Bryant, and the rookie QBs of 2018 (61:21 - 81:36). Segments include Jimmy Butler was traded lets talk about it, Stay Me70, Shoot your Shot Jared Goff, Stay Classy Redskins Social Media, and a wild Monday Reading about Northwestern Football being bad because they're good. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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We start in Cleveland, where the Dog Pound had their chubbies out. Nick, that is. Now that Carlos Hyde is gone, the Browns made an impact chubstitution, putting the Falcons defense in trouble, trouble. Nick chubbled the Space Telescope, also had a 92-yard touchdown, which made the Falcons see stars. You can find the Browns in the chub, bottle full of dub after that win, and Atlanta on an express train to the off-season.

Chubba chubba chubba chubba choo choo! Browns 28, Falcon 16. If your trouble lasts for more than four hours, please see medical attention immediately. The only taste more disgusting than Cincinnati diarrhea chili is a 50 burger, and that's exactly what the Saints cooked up in the Queen's City Sunday. The Saints traded at Bengals like toddlers, as baby shark Ingram, ran for 104 yards, and Alvin Simon Theodore Camara added two scores. The Bengals' season seems lost with Marvin Lewis and Clark leading the expedition in

a comeback futile without Ray J. Green. In a touching tribute to his former teammate Sean Lee, Des Branc got hurt before he could even see the field for the New Orleans Saints. Saints go marching. 51. Bengals 14. I'm spread. In Nash Vegas, where the student became the teacher, as Mike Aesop's Vrabel proved one

man's meat is another man's poison, starting former Patriots Malcolm Butler and Deon Lewis. The Patriots got their Sony PlayStation Michelle back, but Tom Brady looked like he was playing with the broken controller you always make your little brother play with. Marcus Marriot Arulatral and the Titans were the lone survivor in this week's salute to service matchup. As the Titans topped the Patriots, 34. 10. What?

I'm spread. That's why they play the games. In Indianapolis, where Andrew Gluck Gluck 3,000 shoved it down the Jaguars' throats, and Eric Abron-Bron swam through the Reds on three times like it was Jim Ursa's goblet of Cabernet. Sheesh. The game came down to the final drive when Rashawn Greenporty pulled in Dr. Jill Stein, taking valuable points away from the state of Florida.

Between Portals and Andrew Luck, it was a battle of Wikipedia verse books, and although the Jaguars were the better team, citation needed, the books won the day, and Indianapolis pulled a Tom Herman and got a happy ending. Okay, cool. Look'em. Coats 29. Jaguars 26. What?

To Arrowhead, where Josh Keep Rose and Rose and Rose and yeah, lost the game of Limp Biscuit and Patrick Mahomes made the Cardinals secondary eat his chocolate starfish. It's still ass eating season boom. It's always ass eating season Teej. You don't have to tell me boom. Tyree Henry Hill and his true rat self ordered video surveillance on his teammates, serving egg noodles and ketchup to Steve Wilkes like a real schnuck. The Chiefs are dining well at Bergen Kareem Hunt and Fish Club with their capo fat Anthony.

Chiefs 26. Cardinals 14. Whoop. Whoop. Whoop. Whoop. Whoop. We stop off in the Windy City in a battle of the NFC Norse, and here's to you Alan Robinson.

Trabesky loves you more than you will know. Throw, throw, throw. And where have you gone? Golden tape my bro. Matt Stafford turns his lonely eyes to you. Sack, sack, sack. Bears kicker Cody Parkie, hit the pipe more than Michael Irvin in his prime, but the bears survive.

Now you, yes you, listening to this right now, sit up in your seat and show Matt Patricia some respect. Bears 34. Lines 42. Standing on the corner, James Winston Tampa, Florida, such a fine sight. It's a running back, my lord, driving like I'm a brand new four, and his name is A.P. Hey, Jay Gruden, your team is moving. You're in first place, and your brother can't stop losing.

Down to L.A., where Todd Elizabeth Hurley scored for the 13th Street Straight Week and asked all his fantasy owners, do I make you honey, baby? Johann Sebastian Janikowski was back, back, back, back, back. But the Seahawks offense was baroque when they needed it the most. Sean McVape, coached a jewel of a game as a millennial, took down the baby boomer in a battle of the generations. Speaking of boomer, there was a 36-year age gap between these coaches, and 36 years ago, a young boomer was on the sidelines in San Francisco for the catch.

That's neither here nor there, but always worth mentioning. Ram 36, Seahawks 31, and we finish in Oakland, where John Gruden's raiders continue to splutter. We have John Gruden, head coach of the Oakland raiders for his comment on his team's woes. Here's raiders head coach John Gruden. Man, I'll tell you what, man, it's tough to win out there. You know, they're starting to call me Chuck E. Cheese, man, because I play a lot of games. You end up with a bunch of season tickets that are worthless, okay? See, I'm telling you, my phone's ringing off the hook.

I got a bunch of dead guys that are just dying to play here. Man, I call my phone Miss Cleo, because it's getting calls from a bunch of dead guys, you know? That Derek Carr, man, he's a guy that reminds me a lot of myself, because after one or two good years, he's worse than his brother, too, man. You know, that's what I'm talking about. I've got five first-round picks to tell you what. Maybe I'll use them to get a pass rush or a wide receiver, something like that. Thanks, John.

Okay. And that was... John Gruden, he slipped. Canadian John Gruden. Also a little Chicago in there, too. He slipped it in there. There's some Swirskies there. All right, week 11 in the books.

The theme of week 11 was the dogs were barking, and Vegas won all their money back. Good. Thoughts and prayers to Vegas. I was very worried about Las Vegas after the last two weeks where they lost money. Yeah. So we had the Browns win as 7.00 underdogs. The Titans beat the Patriots as 7.00 underdogs. And then to top it all off, the Cowboys, which I think we all said were done, dead,

fired Jason Garrett. Don't extend Dak Prescott. You got little seven-year-olds writing in saying Jason Garrett in quotation marks. They go to Philadelphia and shock the Super Bowl defending champs, which actually... Can I ask you a question? Let's start here. At what point, when the Super Bowl defending champs play so shitty, can we stop calling them the Super Bowl defending champs?

I think they're the defending champs until they're mathematically eliminated. I think that's the official rule. But they are playing like a pile of shit. And offensively, they look boring. I don't know what it is that's so different from last year. I also have not seen the Eagles' defense get pushed around. I know they have a ton of injuries. I know they're missing a lot of guys.

But the Cowboys offense hasn't looked that good in two years. And Vanderesh is good. Oh, yeah. Chris Collins was nutted himself several times. With the Bryant Cox, too. Talking with the neck roll, the Cowboy collar thing he's got going on there. Was that Rod Maranelli's collar, or did he just give that to Jalen Brown? I don't know.

That was like his reward. He gave him his old collar that he wore back in the 1980s. I think he was also wearing it with a little camouflage on it, which really made it nice for salute to service. The new stat that we're going to hear a lot about is that Vanderesh played high school football in 7v7. So you're going to get sick of that one pretty soon. Because I'm sure the Cowboys will be flexed into nine more prime time games.

Also, also just the Cowboys. I like whenever they talk about Vanderesh being great. The shock and amazement that Jerry Jones made a good draft pick. They're like, this guy, like he's unbelievable. Can you believe this? They drafted this guy. It's crazy. Yeah.

The Eagles looked like dog trash. They looked really, really bad. I don't know. I think it's time to say this is the Redskins division. I agree. I mean, I thought the Eagles would win tonight and it would be a race. But the Eagles having that showing, they have to now basically run the table. It would seem like, you know, maybe one or two more.

The margin for error for the Eagles is very slim. Yeah. You know what I liked about this game is before it started, there was a fight down on the field. And that always favors the underdogs. Was it just the fans in the Cowboys? I think it was like two coaches. Got it.

Yeah. Two coaches getting in on it. So we had, that was the night game. But I think the, so the dogs were barking, like we said, the Browns, Baker Mayfield saying, I woke up this morning feeling dangerous. That's a quarterback. That's a franchise quarterback. That's all time.

You know what that is? That's like a tagline from Liam Neeson movie. Yes. Yeah. I woke up this morning feeling dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. Like my kid got taken.

My football got taken. Yeah. And Baker's, I like Baker. He always like, it's concerning to me that he recognized that he woke up feeling dangerous because I feel like Baker just gets out of bed and he's like in a natural state of like, I'm dangerous. Yeah. He noticed it.

He noticed Howard's Twitter feed before and then he's like, I'm now in dangerous. He consulted his burn book before this game. Yeah. And he was like, you're all in a lot of trouble. And then the Titans were the other shocker, absolutely dominated the Patriots. Hank, are you worried? Yeah. So are you worried?

Where's your status on the panic button? I'm not worried. I think it's actually a nice move of Bill Belichick. He's now one in four against former players slash coaches. Oh wow. And the first time he's played them. So he's just trying to get rid of the stigma that like, Patriots coaches are bad after they coach or play for the Patriots.

So he's trying to help out his guys. Got it. Okay. So it's a nice move. Or this is just a master class and motivation and like letting his players not get complacent and throwing this one and losing this one intentionally. So the, the one thing I mentioned to you before the show started, like obviously the Patriots are going to be fine.

They have these losses every now and then, but the home field advantage is now in jeopardy because they have to go play at Pittsburgh and the Chiefs, the Chiefs and Rams play on Monday night, but the Chiefs just don't lose. Yeah. So I can't wait for that game. Yes. Next Monday night is going to be so amazing. Super mile high.

I kind of want to go to Mexico City for that. Yeah. I know. Clock is ticking. I don't know if my passport's valid or not, but I would love to go. What is it? What would Burma call it? Like the Salty Margarita, the great Salty Margarita.

Yeah. The other. I have faith in Jared though in that game. Okay. The other, the other thing I noticed from the Patriots game, Tom Brady is so relatable whenever he tries to run. Yeah. Him falling over.

That guy is, is the best quarterback of all time and a superior athlete. And then when he runs, it's like, Hey, that's me. You can't have it all. I look exactly like that. You just falling all over myself. You can't have it all. He's got literally everything else that you would ever want. You can't run.

Except the ability to take like three steps with the ball. It's funny because he would have gotten a first down. Yes. If he was like, if he was a slightly below average runner. Yes. He's like a baby deer that was just born every time he gets a ball. Yes. It's ridiculous.

The other stories we have, the Saints continue to roll. Yes. When they were on nine straight, they lost, or sorry, eight straight. The fact that they lost week one to the Bucks, that's one you're just going to circle and like, how did that happen? Yeah. It's like not even possible because they're going to play. I think they have to go play in Tampa Bay soon and they'll win by like four scores.

Yeah. That was the, that was the start of Fitz magic. Yes. So it was the initial breakout of herpes, which always burns the most. Yes. And so that's what got, that's what got the Saints in trouble. I did hear, I think it was Matt Hassel, it was one of the Hasselbecks on countdown. When he was talking about the game, he said, now watch out because this could be trouble

for the Saints because they are playing off a short week because they played the afternoon game last Sunday. Yes. Just like I told you, just like that, that three hours is huge. Same time zone though. That's true. I think, actually no, I think, I don't know where. No, no, I think Cincinnati is, yeah, Ohio is, they don't have clocks there.

Yeah. So the time zones are tough. They just look at where the clouds are. Now in this, this was the battle of Houdat versus Houday. And so I'm trying to figure out which one is grammatically correct. More grammatically, because I don't think either one is, but. Houday. Houdat.

Houday is closest. Houdat say they're going to beat them Saints. Houday say they're going to beat them Bengals. Everyone. Everyone says the Bengals. I think I read us that where they've given up 500 yards offense, three games in a row. So I think that's historically correct. I think the Bengals are correct then because there are a lot of people that are saying that

they're going to beat the Bengals. A lot of them. And so you have to determine who amongst those is the one saying it now. Yes. It's whoever's on schedule next. Yes. Yeah. So you mentioned Fitzmagic.

We got to talk about that game real quick. The Redskins coming off of a bad loss to the Falcons go down to Tampa Bay and in an insane like statistical game, the Bucks had 500 yards and three points and Fitzmagic was doing all the Fitzmagic things. Yes. Throwing it, throwing it forwards, 10 yards down the field, fumbling everywhere, running where you had like a clear lane to get a first down. But then be like, no, you know what, maybe I can get a helicopter touchdown.

Oh, no, it's five yards. I lost. Yeah. For some guy that's supposed to be really, really smart and he's definitely very good at math. He has a hard time with geometry sometimes in the open field like finding either when he's like trying to run in a straight line, there's one point where he had a first down and he just decided to like zig off to the left and take the hypotenuse route, which

he ended up getting tackled on or when he's like trying to throw the ball backwards and it ends up going like six yards forwards in the open field. That was like what Ben tried to do last year. What he did do, Fitzpatrick tried to do that except he ended up just throwing a forward pass. He has like, he has late stage Brett Farve brain where he's just every play is always alive. No matter where you are on the field, you can throw it downfield.

Yes. Even though that's just not how it works. Here's another fun stat. Alex Smith, the quarterback of the R-Words, he has thrown for exactly 178 yards in three of his last four games. Wow. Per Ben standing. I'm not sure if that's correct.

Yeah, but that sounds right. I didn't look it up, but we'll have our stats department. I do have a, you want the stat of the day right now because we're on the Redskins game. Yeah, let's have a fun stat. We lost the Chiefs coin flip. They finally lost the coin flip. They had 12 in a row, but the best streak now that no one's talking about is the Redskins. The Redskins in all their games, there has not been a single lead change, which is fucking

incredible. Every time they've won, they've either been tied or winning the entire game. Every time they've lost, they've been tied or losing the entire game. It's literally whoever scores first wins those games. Exactly. Next point wins. Every time you shoot, it wins. Well, next point too.

Yeah. Just next one, when you get to the field, if you score first, the game's over. I wonder what that is. Like there's something about, it's crazy. They're just a momentum team, I guess. Yeah, they don't play, they play great with a lead and they don't play well from behind. Yeah. So that's it.

Me too. The other stat of the day I had, the Dolphins, seven rushing touchdowns in the last two years. Todd Gurley has 25. That's incredible. Todd Gurley has like 13 in a row, right? Yeah. 13 weeks in a row. The last one to do it was LT in like 2005.

I had him on my fitness team that year, not to brag. That's crazy. It was a big year for me. So people still talking about that year. I mean, I think. Doing the league. Oh, hey. Did I win the league?

Nobody cares about your fitness team. Come on, man. Did I win the league? Here's another stat I got DM. It's the only time I've ever won a league. I got this DM to me. The Browns are undefeated against flying teams this year. They haven't lost against teams.

Airborne teams. Yeah, who fly. Okay. So I'm not talking bird teams, because that would be one thing. Yeah, it's talking about the Jets. I'm talking about the Jets, the Falcons, and the Ravens. Okay. So who else they have on their schedule?

I don't know. Let's take a look. Let's circle some of these. Do they play the Ravens again? They play the Ravens again. That will be a win. They play the, that's it. So they just play the Ravens again.

All right. Four wins for the Browns. That's a big victory. Yeah, that is a big victory. Can we talk about the Bears real quick, too? Mitch. Mitch was fucking awesome. And I actually less about the Bears, because I think the Bears are playing.

Well, although they still need to beat like a really good team for me to get all my, like, this could actually happen. This team could win a playoff game. They pretty much beat the Patriots though. But they, they need to be, they need to be one, like very, the Sunday night football game against the Vikings is going to be the biggest test where it's like, okay, can they, can they at home beat a really good team? And then, and then I will say to myself, this team can win a playoff game.

But the Lions, remember the start of the season when we said Matt Patricia lost the locker room and everyone was, and then they went, they won a couple of games like, no, you were wrong. I think he actually has. And it's a disaster. And we're getting the columns again saying Matt Patricia not only is bad, but he looks like shit. Yeah. Yeah. There's some real mean ones out there.

It's bad. Yeah. That's what you get. I don't like it. That's what happens when you tell a journalist to sit up. Yes. They'll come back. People forget the pen is mightier than the sword.

Right. So like, they could actually kill you a million times over just by writing one column. But it's one of those things where if you get on the wrong side of the media and then you also happen to be the guy who looks like he's coming off a bender every single Sunday, it's not good. He's got a mix of bender and like anime bro. Yeah. To his look, to his aesthetic.

Like I, speaking of swords, I wouldn't be surprised if Matt Patricia had just like a wall of katanas at his house, just like a bunch of swords. He don't want to play magic the gathering against Matt Patricia. He'll fucking own you. No, you don't. He'll black forest your ass. Is that a real thing? Yeah.

The ultimate death card. Yeah. I don't know. I never played it. Blue eyes, white dragon. Blue eyes, white dragon? Oh, wow. Okay, nerd.

That's true. I think he's trying to get us. I didn't play magic the gathering. I did cool jock stuff, like collected trading cards. Yeah. Exactly. That was a lot cooler. Ken Griffey Jr.

The rookie card that everyone was like, it's the most viable card ever. And then found out that they produced the 7 million. The upper deck one? Yeah. Yeah. Everyone had one. I had like three of those. We all thought we were going to fucking retire on that card.

Everybody in our generation has like six books of baseball cards somewhere at their parents' house. Yeah, it's like, oh, Ken Griffey. And we've got in the back for heads, like those stories you hear like, oh, my dad had a bunch of like Ty Cobb cards and stuff that ended up being worth $500,000. In condition. Yeah. In my theory, like I don't have a retirement plan, but I do know that there are some trading

cards somewhere in my dad's shed. Somewhere out there, I got like a Ron Gantt rookie card. Oh, yeah. It's probably going to pay for my children's college. I got the Terry Pendleton card where it's just his ass running down the first baseline. He was thick. He was thick before thick was thick. He was absolutely thick.

Yeah. He invented thick. Mm-hmm. So what other games do you want to touch on? I mean, the Rams, they basically, that was like a big comeback game because they obviously lost to the Saints. They've had a lot going on in LA and they beat a Seahawks team that was, when the Seahawks get desperate, they are very, very dangerous.

Yes. And that was a desperate Seahawks team. Here's how you can rank the desperation of a Seahawks team going into any given game. You look at Pete Carroll on the sidelines and you see how many pieces of gum he has in his mouth. Mm-hmm. Yep. If it's just one piece, that probably means that they're playing the Cardinals at home.

Yep. And if he looks like Danny Smith, the special teams coordinator from the Steelers, with like a dozen pieces of, and it's not just like... It's the movement of his jaw as well. Yeah. And it's not like good gum. It's like double bubble. Yes.

And he's got like 10 pieces in there and he's just cranking that thing away. And you know you're in for... Slapping people? Yeah. You're in for a knife fight once he gets over 10 pieces of gum. Yeah. He's got people on the back. He's chomping that gum.

That is the dangerous Pete Carroll. I forgot we do have to talk about one other game. Yeah. We got to talk about the Bill's Jets. Yeah. So, the Bill's Jets, the Jets need to fire Todd Bowles. I disagree. They lost 41 to 10 to Matt Barclay.

It's Josh McCown. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. It was Josh McCown. We talked about Josh going into this weekend and we said that since it's no-nut November, he's going to have an advantage. Mm-hmm. The reality is, no-nut November just levels the playing field for everybody.

That's true. Everyone has Josh McCown power. Everyone hasn't been nutting. Yes. Yeah. They got called for a triple holding, which I've never seen before, a triple holding on one play. Okay.

Just a group hug. Yeah. Just three guys holding. That was, I mean, you have to admit, that was probably the most embarrassing loss they've had in a while. Well, this happens with this Bill's team. I don't know. Like, the same thing happened to the Vikings.

Yeah. They show up every now and then. There you go. The Jets are as good as the Vikings. That's true. Actually, no. They lost by more points. So, they're a little worse.

Did they? Yeah. I don't know what's up with this Bill's team. Like you said, Matt Barkley. No, don't change the subject here. Top Bulls got to get fired. Top Bulls is not getting fired. He's got to get fired.

He's not getting fired. He does. He does. No, he's not. I remain faithful. It's a bye week, too. I blame it on Sam Darnold. Okay.

I blame it on him. Go on. You've got to be tougher. He's a SoCal bro. He doesn't have the grit. He doesn't have the determination. Every little boo-boo is a big deal for him. So, you know what?

He let his teammates down by not playing. Okay. I think in the first quarter, it was something like they had one yard in the first quarter. It was insane to watch that game and just see how fucking bad they were. And like we said, the Bill's offense is not very good. And LaShaw McCoy was running everywhere. And Matt Barkley, who was also, Matt Barkley wasn't even in the league until Sunday. Yeah.

What do you think Matt Barkley was doing? I don't, just hanging out in Southern California, probably? I bet he was camping. He seems like maybe he was a camper. This was like the Matt Barkley day because not only did he win that game, but the Bears beat the Lions for the first time since Matt Barkley beat the Lions with the Bears when Mark Trussman tried to save his job. It was like Matt Barkley was relevant again for a minute.

And also people forget that was, oh no, it was Jimmy Klosson, never mind. I get them confused. Yeah. Jimmy Klosson was the guy that, that Todd McShay and why am I blanking on the other guy? The fucking... Mel Kuiper. Mel Kuiper said he would retire if Jimmy Klosson wasn't like a pro bowler. Oh, that's right.

Yeah. No, he's not. If Matt Barkley walked into this room right now, would you recognize him? I'd probably call him Jimmy Klosson, but yeah. Yeah. I don't think I'd recognize him. Yeah. If he was sitting in our office and you guys didn't know he was going to be there, you

would not be able to pick him out of like members of our office. I feel like he probably looks, Matt Barkley's definitely a looks good and short guy. Yeah. Matt Barkley looks like the guy that your ex-girlfriend in high school started to date. Right. And he's like, damn, that guy's way better. Yeah. And got you very jealous.

You probably dunk. Yeah. This sucks. Let's do our football guy of the week. Should we do our football guy of the week? Let's go. We got to talk about the biggest story that's going on right now. So I'm going to lead up to that.

I'll do the first three before that. The first one we have Mike Leach. Let's put in the audio of Mike Leach's Leach's post game interview. We did control the ball. There we go. There we go. Yeah. Coach, Minchumania, the mustache sensation has taken over Pullman and much of the country.

How can you describe what he has meant to this? Well, I don't know. I don't even think he had a mustache when I recruited him. I don't recall. And then Leach's got more than a mustache, too, and I don't know why everybody only notices his. A lot of these kids have mustaches. Anyway.

And now you do, too. You're rocking. Yeah. No, I do, too. All right. Coach Leach, congratulations on the win. All right. Thank you so much.

So Mike Leach getting a mustache put on his face and then being asked questions about his quarterback having a mustache and then being like, well, my whole team, more guys have mustaches. Yeah. Why aren't you giving any credit to all the other guys? Getting like actually mad about mustaches. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if nobody else on the team has a mustache and Mike Leach just

like got mad at being asked that question. He's just give credit to the rest of my team, too. Yeah. He's just been watching too many pirate movies. Yeah. They all have mustaches and peg legs. What are you talking about? So yeah, the quarterback is Gardner Minchew II, which we hear that name and that that

name might as well just be like a neon sign being like this guy has a mustache. Yeah. That's the most mustache name that I've heard. And he has full-on mustache swagger. Yeah. He's got the headbands. Like that happens where you get a guy with the right mustache and you're like, that guy was born to have a mustache and it gives him extra powers.

You know what Mike Leach reminds me of is like a hard ass teacher that you might have had like a hard ass gym coach that you might have had in high school and at the time he was super intimidating. But then you go back and you see him like 10, 15 years later and you realize he's just a teddy bear. Right. And he's cool. And he fucks around with you now.

Right. He's a cool guy. Yeah. No, at the end of right before you graduate, he pulls you aside and he's like, you know, I love you. Yeah. He's like, shit, man. That was awesome.

If you ever need somebody to buy you a beer. Yeah. Right. Right. If you want to hang out. Yeah. Get your job. I'll write your recommendation anytime.

Next up, we have Sean Payton, who before the Bengal Saints game, there was a fire alarm going off in the locker room and he just straight up smashed it, smashed the fire alarm. You actually saw a picture of a smashed fire alarm sitting there. That is, as football guys, it gets me like, fuck that. If there's an emergency, someone else will find it for me. Yeah. He just grabbed the hammer and beat the shit out of it. And I totally relate to this because usually if there's a fire alarm, I just prefer not

to react. Right. But listen, I'm pretty nimble. I think I can get out if I need to. Right. If there's, yeah, like there's probably a test. They test these, right? Yeah.

Exactly. This is a test. Next up, we have Mike Gundy, who has named his, he, I think his son is a grown kid. Like he's high school. High school quarterback. Yeah, high school quarterback. And his name is Gunnar. Gunnar Gundy.

They said he didn't travel with the team to go to the game because he was staying back at his son Gunnar's high school football game. Uh-huh. What's they won? Gunnar Gundy. Gunnar Gundy is quite a football name. Can you imagine the asskickings Gunnar would have gotten if he wasn't a quarterback? Oh my God.

Gunnar Gundy. That is the coolest kid I've ever heard. What if Gunnar was like, I want to be a Magic the Gathering guy? No. No, that's not happening. No, you don't. Well then, no. Then son, change your name.

That's like when you, like... Okay. Like... You know what I bet happened? I bet Gundy has like more than one son and then he just like waited to watch them develop and then whichever the superior athlete was, he gave them the name Gunnar. Yeah. And you're going to be...

You're a little boy. You're going to be Steven with a PH. Yeah. Yeah. You're Jof. G-E-O-F-F. Yeah, exactly. And then last up, the story that we have to talk about.

Um, Tom Herman is nomi... Oh no, sorry. Wait. Is that the third? Yeah. That's the third. So the fourth is Tom Herman is nominated for Football Guy of the Week and I don't think he even realized how this came about.

Zack Smith, who everyone remembers, was dismissed from Ohio State. Pretty big scumbag. Um, I... I... Allegedly... Did you ever get a... Oh, like tried for anything? We'll just use the A word just in case.

So either way, uh, alleged domestic abuser, the whole thing with Urban Meyer, he decided tonight was the night to come out and basically go after Tom Herman on Twitter and say that Tom Herman, um, cheated on his wife. One of these tweets, one of these tweets, he said, uh, hey, Brett McMurphy, report this. I witnessed Tom Herman cheat on his wife several times, once in an Asian massage parlor and just texted him that I'm done protecting him. We gonna be honest now or not? LMAO.

That kind of hurts your argument, by the way. If you do the... The... The laugh in my ass off. Yep. At the end of like a... I'm dropping bombshells on Twitter. He was doing that a lot.

Yeah. He was doing like LOL, LMAO. He was doing all that stuff. He was on... The screenshot that he posted was just ridiculous. Yeah. Of the text message. Yeah.

So here's the text message. This is why Tom Herman is now, uh, nominated for Football Guy of the Week. And several coaches have reached out to me to expose you, because as I said, who is he to condemn you when he wasn't living right? And they were so right. Send Courtney more money, bitch. I'm gonna share everything all caps about you, including all the pictures I've taken of the shit you did.

So tell Randall and all your cronies to stop, because I'm ready to expose the fucking cowardly bitch you are. And Tom Herman just replied, okay, cool, hook him with a hook him emoji. I like it. I like it. Do you think... No. Tom Herman, your world is about to come down on you.

I'm gonna expose you for cheating on your wife and all these infidelities and all this shit on Twitter. And Tom Herman's just like, you know what? Hook him, dude. Do you think that he... That's like an autofill thing, where every time you text somebody to end with... Hook him? Hook him to the horns?

Yes. I think so too. Absolutely. So hook him is back. Hook him is back. After going, you know, we had the whole hook him thing with Dana, with Coach Dana and being like his hook him a penalty, he should have hit the horns down. Now Tom Herman, in a text that anyone should be like, holy fuck, I'm scared shitless of

this. He's just like, you know what? Let's just drop a hook him on him. Also, he's definitely implicating himself in all these activities. Like he's like, I was there... Oh, I think when he's just come back like him, yeah. And also it's... You witnessed.

Yeah. It's like he's been jerked off in an Asian massage part. Real talk. Like it's a piece of shit move on his part to be like, I'm going to take all the stuff that my ex-wife heard from your wife in confidence and then put that out in the public to embarrass her. Yes. Like that's pretty fucked up.

Yes. I'll bet you Urban Meyers probably like he saw the screenshot and he was like, wait, what is that? He tried... Well, first he saw it and he tried to delete it. Yeah. He was like, why... He tried to delete someone else's tweet.

Why is this email in like blue bubbles? I don't get it. I can't understand any of this. I don't know what this phone is. Like... I was going to say, I liked how in the Oklahoma State game there was fans doing horns down after Oklahoma scored. Oh yeah.

It's a lifestyle down there. Here's the thing. Texas needs to realize that the more they complain about people doing horns down, the more it's going to happen all the time. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's absolutely true. And now horns, you know, hook them.

And Tom Herman. I mean, this is... I don't know what... You even respond to this? Do you just like, hey, this is a crazy guy. I'm never going to even address this. Or do you think someone's going to ask him at a press conference who's going to have to be like, yeah.

I did go to a Rubbin' Tug with Zach Smith, hook him. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Just end it with a hook him. Yeah. I don't know what's going to... Somebody is definitely going to ask about it.

And I'm sure the University of Texas is going to have like a high-powered PR response to it. Yes. Well, credit to Tom Herman because he made a hilarious response. You can now drop on people when they give you really bad news. Yeah. Just, okay, cool. Hook him.

Yeah. What are you going to do, man? I'll bet you... You know what that sounds like? I bet he was hanging out with McConaughey. Yeah. And when he got this text and he's like reading all these texts, McConaughey's like, hey, man, what's going on?

Like, why are you all bummed out on me? And he just handed his phone to McConaughey. He's like, I'll take his. Yeah. No problem. Okay. Okay, cool. Hook him.

Hook him, man. Hook him. He's... I'm reading one more of these... Hi, Coach Tom Herman. You still running from the truth? Cool. Cool with me getting my life ruined on some bullshit, but don't want me to expose you.

Send one more person to meet with me to hide your shit. I'm done protecting you, bitch. You're a bad human. Okay, dude. Hook him. Interesting. Very interesting. So, I guess...

Well, it sounds like from this perspective, Tom Herman's been like having visitors like pass messages to Coach Smith. I don't know what... That wouldn't shock me. I mean, this whole thing is... It's Urban's guys. I want to say it is. It's Urban's guys.

Listen, all roads lead to Urban Meyer on this. Yeah. Question for recruits. Would you go play for a coach that cheats on his wife habitually in frequent Asian massage parlors? He's really hammering home this Asian thing, huh? Dude. Yeah, I'd say most kids probably would go play for that coach if it was like a high

enough program. Hey, 17-year-old jock kid that is being recruited. Your coach is so famous for being a good head coach that he's getting hand jobs all the time and having sex with a lot of hot women. Yeah. I bet you don't want to play for him. Yeah. Bet you don't want to come play at USC?

Yeah. How about Notre Dame? No, that's okay. We don't do that. Yeah. Okay. So why don't you come over to BYU and we'll have a real good time. Yeah.

Our friend, Dan Dockage, has him now booked for Tuesday, 1 p.m. Herman Schrupp. Herman Schrupp. Smith. Oh, my God. Yeah. Let's give this guy a platform. I actually think Dockage is the guy who could probably like, he'll go after him, so it'll

be an interesting interview. All right. I wish Hugh Jackson's interviews that he was doing were like half as entertaining and half as scorched earth as this. Hugh Jackson. Come on, man. He's been an undisputed. He's been on first take.

He's taken pictures with Mike Silver. Yeah. Drunk at a bar. The Sangria pictures. Yeah, just hanging out. Hugh Jackson actually thinks that if he's just nice enough to the media, someone give him another job. Yeah.

I want to see what Hugh Jackson has to say about what kind of escort services Todd Haley was using. Let's get down to the nitty gritty here. Yeah. Todd Haley would not understand. Okay, cool. Hook him. He'd be like, I'll come fight you right now.

He'd be like, fuck you. Leave me at the fucking bar. I'm not there right now, but yeah, I'm there right now. I'll meet you. Hey, fuck it. I'm going to run you over to my Camaro. Yeah. I'm going to fucking come over and smash your mailbox and then run away.

All right, let's do our who's back of the week. Hank, why don't you start? My who's back. I have a few. Oh. My first one. Oh, so it's hooms. Hooms back.

My first hooms back is Breaking Bad. Oh, okay. Yeah. So in typical Hollywood fashion, can't come up with any original ideas for movies. Okay. They're now in works and developing a Breaking Bad movie. It's going to be awesome. So who's in it?

Is it like the whole gang? Walter White? It's Jesse, right? It's the Jesse. It's following Jesse. They don't know that. All the details aren't out there. There's rumors that Walter's going to be in there.

There's rumors that it's going to be like a continuation of Better Call Saul, but there's not any finite details out there. I would like to see like a gritty Jesse Pinkman origin story, like him back in high school in Walter White's class. I like that. I like that. I like that. My other who's back is Jimmer for Debt.

Okay. The Mormon Megalodon dropped 75 in China. Nice. I like that. That is, I mean, it's always Jimmer time. I always, he was the original Steph Curry. You can put him out there and I just be like, Jimmer can get buckets. He can't play even a lick of defense at the NBA level, but man, can he get buckets?

Also a great name. It's always so funny when like the NBA where they don't play defense really anymore. I mean, you saw LeBron kick LeBron literally tried to kick the ball out of someone's hands. Yeah. He was, he was playing such hard defense. He was bending the rules. Regular season LeBron, regular season West Coast LeBron is trying at a hilariously awful level on defense.

He's trying to kick it out of people's hands. He knows nobody's watching. No one's watching, but the fact that like the NBA plays such little defense and I want to sound like, you know, college basketball is not the same level, whatever. They don't play defense in the NBA and Jimmer still is considered like a horrendous defense of liability. Yes. That's something else.

Yeah. They couldn't find a spot for him, but he can still pull up from 40 feet. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Make it rain. He gets wet. Watch out. He'll get another shot.

I don't know about that. I would. Why'd you want another shot? What do you score? 72? 75. 75. Why would you want another shot?

Just dominate in China. How much money do you think he's making in China? A couple of mil. That's a big league in China. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's pretty good life too.

Yeah. And also you don't have to pay taxes. Yeah. Well you do, but you don't. You know what I mean. You're also not allowed to use Twitter, right? You have to use Weibo, like the Chinese one that only lets you tweet out good stuff about the Chinese government.

Speaking of Weibo, I got called to Weibo the other day. What is that? I had to ask Liam. I guess it's like a guy who tries to pretend he's an anime guy. You know the meme like here. Matt Patricia. Have this. Yeah.

Yeah. You know the little guy here, have this. Yeah. No, it's mine. I guess that's an anime thing. And so when I did it, people were like, bro, are you trying to be a Weibo? You were appropriate. And I got really, I got really upset.

And I texted Liam. I was like, yo, what, what are they calling me online right now? Yeah. You were appropriating nerd culture. Yeah. You're fake gamer girl. It is hilarious. So that's my first, my first instinct is to just text Bob and be like, yo, the kids are

making fun of me again. Well, he always knows. He always knows. Yeah. My who's back of the week is wings. Chicken wings are back this week. Relatable. More specific.

More specific. More specific. No, no, no. Listen, more specifically, wingstop wings. Buffalo Wildlings is already a, I know they're a sponsor, but I'm, but the New Orleans Saints, every single Thursday, since they've been on this winning streak, they go to Wingstop as a team. They eat a shitload of chicken wings.

They should go to Buffalo Wildlings. They're not going to win a football. But they're eating a lot of wings every Thursday night, which is basically our lives. That's what we do. Yep. Is every Thursday from Buffalo Wildlings. And we've been on a great winning streak too. That's true.

We're so sick of winning. Of getting full. Right, Hank? Yeah. Yeah. What else you got? That's it. That's it.

I'm just doing one and done. That's it. Okay. I get two. One is, uh, Mike Lombardi terrible takes. So Mike Lombardi last year said Doug Peterson was the worst coach in the NFL that he went and won a Super Bowl. So I'm hoping that this, uh, turns into a yearly thing where Michael Lombardi bashes someone

and then they go on to win a Super Bowl because he said about Mitch Trebisky, no, I'm not buying Mitchell Trebisky. Lombardi said on the podcast, you couldn't get me to buy Mitchell Trebisky if you had him on discount rack at Filene's basement. There's no chance. There's no chance. He can't throw the ball in bounds. Half the time.

I mean, it's a joke. So thank you, Mike Lombardi. I think that's a good thing. Right. Yeah. His kiss of death gives life. Yeah. Exactly.

And then Mitch went out and scorched the Lions and then my other who's back is just Bobby Petrino jokes. Yes. So Louisville. Louisville is, I wish they didn't fire Petrino and Petrino because now I feel like Louisville is just not going to be as fun anymore. Yeah. What happened was they went from the horniest campus in America to now just like a really

boring camp. Yeah. They're going to hire like some preacher to take his place and it's going to be lame. Like you're not going to win a national title in football. Yeah. You know, obviously basketball you did, but it got vacated. At least you could be something and being the horny guys is kind of a cool brand. It's absolutely a cool brand.

Right. The face of what Smith was saying about like no one's going to want to play for you. Right. People wanted to play for Petrino because they're like, this dude slays. Right. This dude gets on motorcycles. Yeah. So Lamar Jackson, he basically got bugged Petrino fired by being so good when he was

in college. A retroactive coach killer. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, essentially is right. And we'll talk a little bit more about this with with Klimko, but I want Petrino to go to the Ravens, get reunited and then get to play against the Steelers twice a year and share motorcycle tips with the Big Ben.

That would be something. So yeah, Petrino. And then that, that one, that one picture was so funny. The bottom line, I'm sure they taped the show obviously earlier because I think they played Friday night. Yeah. But just the bottom line of him, him in his weekly show, Sunday morning show in Louisville. And then the bottom line says Bobby Petrino fired.

Does he get another job? Yeah. Big time job? Maybe not big time, but he'll get another job. Yeah. I mean, he wins football games or has one football offense of analysts for Nick Saban. I mean, yeah. Maybe.

Get him down there. I got to look at it. I got to look into his coaching tree. That's the thing. Whenever a guy gets fired, just look into his coaching tree. Yeah. Whoever's at the top will hire. I'm sure there's a buyout involved where he's going to be getting paid a lot of money

for the next several years. He's got, I think he got $14 million, which is good for Bobby Petrino because he remembered did not get the buyout at Arkansas because they basically were able to avoid his contract for being too horny. Yeah. That was the clause. That's remarkable. You're too horny.

Yeah. Get your contract. That's the Anthony Wiener treatment. Yeah. Pretty much. Petrino Wiener 2020. That's the dream ticket. Yeah.

And let's get Petrino in there somewhere. Yeah. We'll figure it out. He'll be their campaign manager. Yes. All right. Let's get to our interviews. First up, we're going to do Tom Frinelli, some college football.

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Check it out. Okay. We now welcome on our good friend Tom Frinelli. You can find him on Twitter at Tom Frinelli. You can also find him on CBS Sports where he's writing about college football every single day. Also giving out picks that have turned around. So now's the time to get in on what they haven't turned around.

Hanks Matty. Let's get started there. Tom. I'm not mad. I'm not mad at you because Ole Miss didn't cover. I'm mad that Ole Miss didn't cover. It's Travion Williams' fault who all he had, he pulled like the opposite of Todd Gurley last week.

All he had to do was go down, get first down to end the game and that SOB ran 50 yards for a touchdown to get rid of the cover. Yep. And those happen every single week. So I want to start with the top four because everyone always likes to talk about the teams that are in the playoffs right now. If you had to guess, if you had to predict one of those four teams not making it, which one would it be?

Notre Dame. I mean, I think that's ... Even over Michigan? Yeah. Because Michigan's got to play in Ohio State. Yeah. Yeah. And I honestly think that, I mean, if the committee had its full druthers, it would probably

rank Michigan ahead of Notre Dame right now because I honestly think Michigan, even though it lost to Notre Dame to start the year, is better than Notre Dame. At least it's playing better. And I understand that Notre Dame upgraded from Brandon Wimbush to Ian Book and the office defense has approved since then. They got Dexter Williams back. But I think Michigan just overall, special teams, defense and offense has been a better team than Notre Dame.

Not like a touchdown better, but I think they're slightly better. And I think if you look at Notre Dame, I don't think any of us are going to be surprised if they lose to Syracuse next weekend because that's an offense that's really, really playing well and just Notre Dame's defense is kind of slipping in the recent weeks, to be honest. I agree with that. That's my upset special this week. I love Dino. Okay.

So we should talk about that game real quick. I think we can officially say that's not a trap game though, because everyone has been talking about it as a trap game for the last month. It's not a trap game. If everyone knows it's a trap game and Syracuse is good. Also on a neutral site, I don't think a neutral site game can be a trap game because you have to prepare for it. Like it's a weird, like it's a, it's a different thing.

Stadium. Yeah. The Yankee Stadium. So, uh, so you, you think Notre Dame, I actually tend to agree with you there. Do you think that Ohio State has any chance to beat Michigan in a couple of weeks in Columbus? But I saw the early line was Michigan minus three and a half, which I think is a shocker to anyone who follows college football, not now, but at the beginning of the season, if you had told me Ohio State would be a dog at home against Michigan, that would be kind

of crazy. Yeah. I think Ohio State would have a realistic shot up beating Michigan simply because for the same reason Ohio State beat Michigan State on Saturday. If you look at their problems on defense where they give up a lot of big plays, you know, they got torn apart by Purdue, they got torn up a little bit by Nebraska to spread off fences that move quick and try to spread you out and all through the, you know, can attack you through the air.

Michigan is not really an offense built like that. It's very much, you know, your typical Jim Harbaugh offense where they just want to run at you, run at you, run at you, and then once in a while they'll try to beat you with play action, which is something, say Patterson's done a tremendous job of this year. But I think that stylistically Ohio State's defense matches up much better with Michigan than it does with Purdue. So as far as that's concerned, I think that they have somewhat of an advantage there that they don't have against teams like Purdue.

That being said, Ohio State cannot run the ball right now to save its life. So I think it would really struggle to move the ball against Michigan's defense because it's the best defense in the country. So yes, Ohio State would have a chance to beat Michigan. I don't know that I would pick them too. And I think I understand if they are a three and a half point dog, although it's strange for that to be the case at home, I understand it not probably lean towards Michigan. If you're Northwestern, who would you rather play in the big 10 championship game?

Ohio State. Yeah. Yeah. Just because they have flaws and Michigan really doesn't have like an obvious flaw that you can expose. Now that it has Shay Patterson, you know, that was always the problem the last few years at Harvard. The quarterback was just average at best.

Shay Patterson is much better than average. And that is something that, you know, Northwestern really can't compete with. If you look at Clayton Thorsten versus Shay Patterson, I don't think it's much of a contest. Do you think, so I watched that entire Ohio State, Michigan State game yesterday and obviously Dwayne Haskins is very, very talented. But there are sometimes where he looks like he's just uncomfortable and it's not even that he's getting a rush. It's just like something about where he's trying to place throws.

It doesn't look fully fluid. Have you seen that recently? Yeah. I think that they're kind of not really using him correctly, to be honest with you. I feel like they're, as far as passing game goes, they're having him through all these short passes, like, you know, vertical routes in short slants. And his accuracy on those routes isn't that great. I feel like he's much more in that Cardale Jones mode where if you get him throwing down

field, I think he's more at home or at least more comfortable with, like, you know, vertical routes. And then in the, I think part of it too is the way that they use that run game is, if the way that Ohio State runs the ball, they're still doing like read options. Like if JT Barrett was back there, when the defense has absolutely no respect for Dwayne Haskins ability to run, nor should they, yet they don't go to more power sets and more power running. And I feel like being in a situation where he's just not comfortable is kind of affecting

his play overall. Okay. So I like this because this is the take that Urban Meyer, great recruiter, but he's not that great of a coach. I think he's a very good coach, but I do think that offensively, Ryan Day, who's calling the plays and maybe Urban is, you know, lording a little bit over that because it's just what they're comfortable doing. I do think they are, they are not making adjustments that they should make to their

personnel. I mean, if, if this is the offense they want to run, they should probably have Tate Martell playing quarterback because I think he's a better fit for it. Yeah. You saw a little bit of it on, on Saturday. Now, on the other side of the coin, you've got a guy who's not a great recruiter, but an awesome head coach, Mike Leach and the Cougars. I'm looking at the Cougars right now.

I think they could beat Notre Dame. I don't know if they, I think they belong in the, I don't think that there would be outclassed if they were in the, uh, if they were in the college football playoff. I think they'd be outclassed against Alabama, Clemson and Michigan, but I, I, I think they could enjoy, well, Georgia's got some holes you can expose on defense. Now would Washington State defense be able to withstand like the Andre Swift in that offense? I doubt it.

But I, I agree with you in that. I think Washington State would hang with Notre Dame better than it would any of those other real playoff contenders. It's just the pack 12 this year is not very good. Yeah. And Washington State is taking full advantage of it and more power to him for doing it. Gardner Minshew is what it, you know, he's, he's got the clutch gene, especially in the fourth quarter.

He is the guy that you want with the ball. You know, he's, he's the fuck you give me the ball. Let's go win the game QB that you want. It's just the first half of the games. I feel like Washington State at times struggles to find its rhythm. And if you're doing that against a team like Alabama or Clemson, you'll be down 30. That's the, uh, that's the Vince Young strategy. Just like, chill out in the first half and go the fuck off in the second half.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. So I'm doing this thing where I'm trying to talk myself into someone beating Alabama and I want you to assess, uh, my take from my takeaway from yesterday's game against Mississippi State. I watched most of that game and I was, I was basically like, you know what, if Mississippi State had a halfway decent like offense, they could have been in this game, especially

with how the first half ended where they should have scored a touchdown and, and the refs, you know, James, shout out, James Carville. He knows how it's, how it's going. The refs came out for Alabama, but am I just talking myself into it because I don't want to see Alabama win again, or is there a legitimate like chance because I saw Mississippi State kind of, even though I lost my 24th, they kind of hung around. And I feel like Clemson or Michigan could both give Alabama a game. Well, to beat Alabama, you, you're not, you don't just have to have an offense.

You have to have an offense that's not one dimensional like that. That's the problem we saw last week with LSU and that we saw yesterday, you know, on Saturday with Mississippi State. They can't throw the ball. Neither of those teams could throw the ball. And if you just run it at Alabama, you're not going to go anywhere. That's the problem we saw. I think that what we've seen in recent years, when Alabama has lost, they lost to Johnny

Football and the Aggies. They lost to Hugh Freese, his old miss teams. They lose to teams that could spread you out and throw on you. And they haven't really run into anybody like that. And I feel like Clemson is a team that can do that to them. So yes, if they play Clemson in the title game again, I think Clemson can beat Alabama, but I don't know that it will because I feel like really the only way I see Alabama losing a game this year is if Tua gets hurt seriously and has to miss time.

And we saw that a little bit against Mississippi State because Jalen Hurts has been dealing with an injury. He wasn't available the last two games. Tua's knee has been bothering him for a few weeks. He got kind of banged up against Mississippi State after he took a hit. He came out of the game. Mac Jones has to come in and play quarterback. And once Mac Jones came in, that Alabama offense couldn't do anything because Mississippi

State's defense did not respect his throwing ability. So they just keyed the run and they completely slowed it down. So unless Tua gets hurt and Jalen is hurt, I think Alabama is pretty invincible. That's tough. That's tough. Yeah, that's tough. I love doing the thing you just did, which I like to say too, like, all right, well, if you can just find a really mobile quarterback, you can beat Alabama's struggles with spread

offenses. It's like, well, they've only lost like three games in the last 10 years or whatever the fuck it is. Yeah. So they don't show that much. Those three losses have all come to similar teams, though. So it's like that's the formula. You just have to do that and hope that they have an awful day.

Yeah. Yeah. Tom, I got to ask you, are you paying any attention to this breaking story right now of Zach Smith, the former Ohio State assistant and Tom Herman? I was made aware of this story right before we came on. It's very interesting. It's been a while since we had this Zach Smith meltdown. It's always comforting to see Zach Smith on Twitter having a meltdown.

So we'll dig into it a little bit, but yeah, it's kind of the rat. I mean, it's your voice with Tom Herman. Yeah. Why are you rat not your former boy, man? You were there with him. Yeah. Yeah. When he said, I witnessed Tom Herman cheat on his wife several times once at an Asian

massage parlor. Like that obviously implies that you were also in said massage parlor. What does witness mean there? Yeah. Is that a, that's an interesting, you might have implicated yourself in some weird shit there, Zach Smith. Hey, we don't sex shame. Yeah.

That's true. Whatever you're into. Tom, I have, I texted you this take before you hopped on, but Oklahoma stinks. And if they somehow sneak into the college football playoff, I will be absolutely furious because their defense is so bad and they can't, they just play every single game. They haven't even blown teams out like old, old school, Oklahoma, it's, it's ridiculous watching them play. Their offense is great.

Their defense is bad. Do you like, they can't make it in, right? Tell me, tell me there's order in this world. There's a part of me that's with you in that I'm sort of hoping they don't get in because I know whoever they play is going to beat them in the semi-final. Right. Because that defense is just too bad. And last year they were able to hang with Georgia and that was a very surprising game.

But that was Baker Mayfield having a fantastic first half and then things kind of once Georgia adjusted, things went downhill, but that defense is awful. And last year's defense was bad, but last year in the big 12, Oklahoma's defense allowed 28.8 points for gifts. So far this year in the conference play, they're allowing 34.6 because they're pretty much giving up a touchdown more per game against big 12 teams than they were last year. The defense is awful and it's just, it's, it's fun to watch because it's kind of like a video game.

But at the same time, it also gets kind of boring because you know, every single, you know, drive is going to end in a touchdown, but nobody is going to win a national title playing defense that poorly. So as far as that is concerned, it's like I would rather see Oklahoma not make it just because well, there's one team we know doesn't have a chance. Right. That's exactly what I feel. And I obviously want West Virginia to make it if a big 12 representative makes it.

But if you had to, if you had to say right now, big 12 or it looks like if Notre Dame runs the table, it's going to be either a big 12 team or a big 10 team is left out. Would you say that it's going to be a big 12 team? Yeah. Exactly. Because I feel like it probably depends a little bit too on who the teams are. If Michigan wins out and it beats, you know, Ohio State and then it beats Northwestern in the big 10 title game and it's sitting there at 12 and one and it's only lost is

a seven point loss on the road against an undefeated Notre Dame. I see no way in hell that they get left out of the top floor doubt. If it ends up being Ohio State beats Michigan, then maybe you have, you have more of an argument between them and Oklahoma or them and West Virginia, whoever it is at that point because Ohio State's loss is just a bad loss, especially after what we suffered due to against Minnesota on Saturday. So for the big 12, I think you should root for Ohio State if you want to have a realistic shot of getting in, whether you're Oklahoma or West Virginia.

Okay. That's what we'll do then. We'll root for them. Um, if, if UCF runs the table, we're talking dynasty? Is it too soon? Yeah. Yeah. They are an American athletic conference dynasty.

Yeah. We'll get a second banner up there. I'm so sick of that stuff. I'm not. I, I, I don't think I'll ever tire of that. Um, I want to talk to you real quick Tom about, uh, my, my passion, which is a full backs in college football. So I've, I've narrowed down the, uh, the top three, the watch list for full back of the

year because they don't have an award. So we're giving them an award this year. Um, the guys that I have right now, and you tell me if I'm missing out on anybody. Okay. These are my final four. Okay. I've got Carter from LSU. I've got Ben Mason at Michigan.

I've got Colin, I don't know if that's how you pronounce his last name, but that's how it's spelled at A and M and then I've got George Aston at pit. So you tell me, if you were to rank those right now, where would the fall? Oh, Mason is my clear number one. Yeah, me too. Then the LSU kid, then the Aggie kid, and then the other guy. Then pit. No, Mason.

Yeah. Mason. You don't even know them, Tom. You don't. You learned the pit guy yesterday. I did learn the pit guy yesterday. Yeah. When they were running all over Virginia, no, but Mason to me is clearly full back in

college right now. Yeah. He just destroys dudes. And he's the most full back. Full back too. It's actually a great award too because PFT, like I watched in real time as the pit guy got nominated yesterday on your Twitter account, so you can just tweet him a guy and he will probably get nominated.

If you show me one good stat line or one good picture, then that's all it takes. I mean, listen, obviously Ben, I think is the number one. He's a runaway. He's awesome. He's actually like a really, really good player. So until he's dethroned, I think he's the finalist for, I don't know if we're going to call it like the hat on a hat trophy, the highs man's man trophy. I don't know.

We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Go ahead, Tom. I was going to say, I'm actually pissed off because I was going to make up somebody to see if PFT knew it.

Oh, yeah. You would have gotten better. What about Aaron Jones from Alabama? How are you going to leave him off your list? He's a system full back. Yeah. All right. My last question, Tom, the USC Trojans.

They're running out of Pete Carroll lackeys to hire. So who the hell are they going to hire, assuming they fire Clay Helton, which they will, right? I think at this point, yeah. I think Clay Helton's on fire all the time. I don't know. It's an odd position because honestly, I feel like Louisville fired Petrino and they're 100% going to go after Brom. And if they get Brom, if I'm USC, because I think Brom would more likely leave Purdue

for Louisville than I do for USC. I think if I'm the Trojans, and if I'd go after Babers, honestly, because I think that he runs an exciting offense, you know, in LA, you have to sell excitement, you know what I mean? Like there's the reason the Lakers are showtime and they're always going for all that kind of stuff. You have to excite the area to get them interested. And I think that's an offense that could do it.

And I just think Babers is a good coach. Now, will he want to coach in an area where he's not all familiar with? I don't know. It's an interesting situation and I'm not really sure there's an obvious candidate for USC right now. I think they would go after Chris Peterson, but I don't think he's going to leave Washington at this point. So it's a strange situation to be in.

Well, the obvious choice is always, I'm pretty sure the hiring process at USC forever has just been, okay, who worked for Pete Carroll when he was here at USC? Let's hire that guy. So maybe they just start at the top again and just bring back Pete Carroll. What if they bring back Lane Kiffin? Yeah, I mean, I'm sure he would. I predicted that Lane Kiffin will have one more go around it, either a Power Five or an NFL team.

What about Norm Chow? Oh, yeah. Get Norm back in. What about Norm up too? Yeah. What about Steve Sark? Because he got Julio in the end zone, so he must be on the right side of stuff. Hey, hey, give, you know, that Atlanta offense this year, we gave Sark so much crap for the

way that that team played last year to the foot that went off and he's doing a good job. Yeah. They did do that thing today where they did like four straight fades in the end zone. Yeah. You just can't help himself. It's only because they didn't have a chance to do five. Yeah, Norm Chow or Jeff Fisher, those are my two hot names to watch out for you.

Also, I had one last question. Jack Del Rio. Yeah, Jack Del Rio. Bring back the leather jacket. My last, last question was how you want to talk about how awesome Mitch Trubisky is real quick. Oh my God. Isn't he amazing?

He's the haters of which there are many are eating a lot of protein, including Mike Lombardi, who said that he, I think Mike Lombardi's quote was, uh, it was very, very, I want to pull it up real quick. He said, uh, there, he wouldn't, he, I'm not buying Mitch Trubisky. There's no chance. There's no chance. He can't throw the ball and bounce half the time. I mean, it's a joke.

And he said he wouldn't even buy him on a discount racket filing his basement. So Mike Lombardi, fuck off. All I'll say, all I'll say is that Aaron Rogers lost to the Lions this year. It's, it's Trubisky beat him. Yup. So Tom Brady will fax fax fax. Um, all right, Tom, thank you so much. We appreciate it.

Uh, maybe we'll, uh, talk to you before bull season as well. And, uh, everyone again, go follow Tom at Tom for Nelly on Twitter. He's got his picks are hot again. They're guaranteed not to lose. No, there was a, there was a rough patch, but the pick six is back, I would say. Yes. Yes. Exactly.

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Here he is, Robert Klimko. And now for something completely different. Okay. We now welcome on our friend Robert Klimko from Sports Illustrated talking some NFL. I want to start Robert with the biggest game of the week, the biggest shocker of the week, the Jets getting their asses kicked by the Bills. What do the Jets do from here? Because that was stunning.

Yeah. That was bizarre. You know, to go into a game with Matt Barkley and I think it's what their fourth starting quarterback this year. Yep. And I think Lashon McCoy just has his first like actual, you know, real good game of the season. I mean, it was a bizarre, but it wasn't the only bizarre game of the week.

But I, you know, I think the Jets knew that going into this season, they were in a rebuilding year and they were expecting them to take some L's like this. You know, I think that there were probably bigger shockers around the NFL. I agree. Not that shocking. So after the game, the defensive players all said to a man, this isn't on Todd Bowles. So I'd like to point out that it's not on Todd Bowles. He's still a top 10 coach in the NFL.

He should not be fired. So whose fault was it for the Jets? So we've eliminated Todd Bowles. Yeah. Is this, are we putting this on the count? I, you know, I think it's on the fans. Yes. Nice.

Probably that's fair. That's definitely. There's fireman Ed. He probably just had a little bit too much optimism going into this. Got a little cocky. And I think the bill felt that energy. Yeah. Well, the Monday night football game just started the season.

Definitely did that. But you're right. There were some, there were some, not shocking because it is the NFL's every week, but are, you know, week to week league where one team looks bad and they look good. Vegas won a bunch today and the Titans and the Browns covering as touchdown dogs. I think we're definitely shocking. What'd you make from the Titans Patriots game? You know, it was kind of wild to me that the way that the Titans were able to control

the clock. You know, you don't see teams kind of have six, seven, eight minute drives against Patriots defenses. Like it doesn't matter if they have, you know, the 10 guys you never heard of and Patrick Chung, they're usually able to stop the run and, and they didn't do it this week. And the offense actually looked creative this week. Like last week against Dallas and a few weeks before that, they kind of got stuck in a little like classic Titans, exotic smash mouth.

They went back to their old ways a little bit. But the offense looked really good. And I liked what, uh, what Vrable did. He basically pulled his nuts out and said, I'm going to run your exact play and I'm going to do better than do with Belichick. Like, I don't know if you saw the, the like hug after the game, but Belichick actually looked happy for Vrable. I think Belichick loves all those guys that move on because look, people say that Belichick

is selfish and they're probably right because he knows that guys like Mike Vrable having success is great for his legacy. If Mike Vrable wins a Super Bowl, that's just good for Belichick. Yeah. Unless Belichick is still in the league, then obviously it's not, but I, I'd agree that for the most part, unless you're like an Eric Mangini or Josh McDales, I feel like Belichick has the guys who leave a little too early and he holds resentment towards those guys, but guys who either Vrable never was a coach under him or guys who it's time for them to

go, uh, and spread their wings. He probably still has, you know, you know, a fondness for them. I think there's probably a little bit of a father-like kind of sentiment towards those guys that leave a little bit too early. Like, you know, I'm never going to let you beat me in anything, but I would like for you to succeed once I'm too old to play you and pick up basketball. Yes. Yes.

That's a good point. That's definitely a fair point. Um, how about the, uh, the biggest surprise out of the NFC this weekend, uh, through our words, Washington going down in Tampa Bay. Now I'm kidding. I want to talk about the Bears a little bit because big cats over here trying to flex about them. I haven't said a word about them all day.

Mitch is, uh, Mitch looked pretty good. The defense looked awesome. Are they, is it fair to say that the Bears are in that like second tier behind the Saints and the, uh, and the Rams and the NFC that like could make some noise. I think they're one of those teams that like you wonder about making the playoffs and making a run like the Colts feel like one of those teams, that if they could just get a few things going right and then make a run that they could make the, the playoffs and upset somebody. Did you see the play where Khalil Mack, Ben's press, well, like he threw the tight end

aside, just like, get out of here bench presses the tackle and then, and then just jump on the quarterback back. Yeah. I mean, he's insane. And it's actually very smart for Matt Nagy to, to sit him for two weeks where they got wins. I feel like, you know, former Bears coaches would have just been like, no, we, we have to keep them out there because I'm worried about my job at all times.

But yeah, I agree with you. The Bears, they're not a finished product, but they have that like they could probably beat anyone on a, on any given Sunday. They could also lose to anyone on any given Sunday, especially if you look at, you know, losing to Brock Oswiler still happened this year. So, um, who do you have? So we, you just talked about the Bears and the Colts. Who do you have as another team like that where you could see them putting some wins

together? Cause I feel like this is right around that time of year where maybe a team comes out of not nowhere, but starts putting together five, six wins and you're like, wow, damn, these guys look good. And maybe we hit, you know, throwing them out at the beginning of the season. It's hard to put the chargers in that category, but I'm going to because everybody discounted them when Hunter Henry went down and when Boso was out for a long time, but they just keep stacking up wins with like a running back at the number one receiver somehow.

And, and I think that, you know, given the right set of circumstances, they could beat a hot chief team in the playoffs. I could see that being like a crazy wildcard week upset. I think so too. I think you touched on something that would be important to be able to beat the chiefs and that's Boso. If he's back and he's able to kind of like keep my homes in the pocket a little bit, put some pressure on him, that's going to be a big help.

But the question is, is he ever going to come back? Yeah. I mean, I have no idea that that whole family is a little bit suspect in terms of their love of the game. Right? Yeah. I like that. I like that.

Put that in the draft draft notes for Nick Boso, Joey Bosa's dad, the new Archie Manning. Good question. Good question. Speaking of the draft, you obviously spent time with all of the quarterbacks that were drafted in the first round this past year. Who do you think is having the best year so far? Who do you think is maybe dealing, not struggling with like the NFL in general, but having a tough time and maybe shocking you with how they're dealing with their rookie season?

Yeah. You know, I'm going to give it to my guy, Baker Mayfield. I mean, you guys are fans as well, I think, and I talked to him the most pre-draft. And I just feel like given how bad that offensive line is, the way that he stood in there and taken some of these hits and made plays, and obviously this week, what was it, 17 for 20? Three touchdowns, I think? Mm-hmm. The performances that he's put up with all the turmoil inside the organization have been

kind of crazy. The one that really disappoints, I think, is probably Josh Rosen. And he's also one of the guys, you know, in addition to Baker Mayfield, that got the most criticism before the draft for off-field stuff, for, I guess, just attitude type stuff. But, you know, it's tough because I think that's just kind of a crappy situation on offense in Arizona, and any one of these guys, given, you know, no skill position players around them, some uninspired play calling, could look as bad as Josh Rosen looks right now.

Yeah. What about Sam Darnold? I mean, that one is baffling to me just because he obviously looked great to start. He's looked terrible since. He's injured, but I'm wondering if the injury is really an injury or they're trying to sit him down and be like, hey, man, we need to get this right before we get you back out there. You know, I have such a hard time condemning a quarterback for like a rookie performance

because I just, I was so changed by, you know, watching Peyton Manny's rookie year as a kid where he throws 33 picks and just thinking, this guy's the hugest bust ever. And I just, I hate the trash guys in their rookie year. Okay, but like, just a little bit. The trash, just a little bit. Come on. We're like, that's what we do. Just like a little.

Like, what was that answer? Like, let's just trash him. His forehead is huge. It's, yeah. What's the deal with your guy, your, your boy Josh Allen? Well, Josh Allen's fine. Josh Allen's fine. His team won a game today.

What's your problem? Josh Allen's team beat Sam Darnold's team. That's a win for him. Yeah. Josh Allen is such a presence in that film room that he got, he got Matt Barkley up to speed in no time. Yeah. So how about that?

I can see that. I actually came into the office today and I said, how about the bills winning a game with Matt Castle? And then Big Cat was like, no, you mean Barkley? Oh yeah. Shittier than Matt. Yeah. I mean, we're back up Matt quarterback that actually won this game.

Also, Josh Allen beat out Nathan Peterman for a job. People forget that. Good point. Good point. My, my favorite joke on Twitter is, is, and I guess it's not a joke, but all these people who say, well, the bills are making Colin Kaepernick's collusion case for him. I'm not sure that that's how collusion works as law. Right.

Right. Right. Yeah. If you have, if you have like one wildly in like, like shitty franchise making consistently poor decisions, I don't think that makes a collusion case. Yeah. But it's, it's consistent every Sunday. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I mean it's, it is the case against the Buffalo Bills and Sean McDermott trotting out Nathan Peterman. He, maybe, maybe that's the case we need to try. Does Sean McDermott have a brain? Is, are the bills the producers of the NFL? Yes. Like that play?

Yes. Yes. They figure out how to make money while, while trotting Nathan Peterman out there and throwing 400 separate. So if, I want to talk about the Saints real quick, because the Saints are a wagon. They shit-pumped the Bengals today, 51 to 14. I never heard that expression. Yeah.

Well, you should start watching more hockey. Yeah. Ryan Whitney will tell you all about it. So I don't know how you can out-score the Saints, but how do you slow them down? If you're putting together a defense, how do you try to slow down that offense? Now that they're, you know, they are without their secondary weapon, Des Bryant. So maybe that'll take some wind out of the sails, I don't know. Interior pressure, you know, Drew Brees trying to find passing lanes with a center and a guard

ass in his face. That's, that's how teams have beaten them in the past. I do have a funny Des Bryant story. I don't, I don't know if you guys ever heard this one. I do like funny stories. You can tell it to me. Okay. I was in Dallas and I went down there to talk to Greg Hardy and he had just got there.

And he wasn't around. Um, actually just kind of blew me off. That doesn't sound great. So I'm standing in the locker room just kind of observing and, and thinking about how I'm going to justify, you know, the hotel room and the flight down to Dallas. And Des Bryant comes out and he sees Jean-Jacques Taylor, the guy, I think he worked for ESPN Dallas at the time. And he says to Jean-Jacques, you know, what the, you know, what the F was that column

all about? And Jacque had called him immature or something. And then Devin Street steps in between them. They start arguing and Des go and, and John Jacque goes, Devin, what nobody talking to you? Get out of here. He screams out, Jean-Jacques just called Devin an inward and he starts, he starts screaming it at the top of his lungs.

Okay. Like three or four times, everybody's stunned. Every player in there, every reporter just watching this, like, no, he didn't say that. What's wrong with you? And then Des storms out. So I tweet, I pull out my phone, I tweet, Des Bryant in a confrontation with a reporter who wrote an article about, or a column saying that he was immature. Um, Des comes out back into the locker room 45 seconds later and he says, who the fuck

is Robert Clemco? He's been on his phone refreshing a search for Des Bryant to see what people are saying about what he just did on Twitter. And I said, and I said, I'm Robert Clemco. And he steps up to me and like right in my face and he's like, if you go tell it, tell the whole thing, say Jean-Jacques called Devin an and I said, uh, he didn't say that though. Like we were all here and he starts screaming at me and then he separated and then he goes

rich, fix this shit. Just start yelling, Rick's rich, fix this shit for rich, Dalrymple, the, the cowboy PR guy. And then these, these Dallas radio guys ended up putting that on a t-shirt, Des screaming with like spittle flying out of his mouth saying, rich, fix this shit. So that actually makes perfect sense too, because Des Bryant is so active on Twitter. And I feel like he's always just, just going off on people. So it makes sense that he would just sit there and name search himself.

Yeah. He's got like rabbit ears almost. I think more guys than you think name search themselves, like after media appearances or after games or whatever. We need to start just tweeting people's names right after they get done with the media to try to get their attention. Yeah. Who's the soccer player that we know does that?

Bradley, right? Bradley. Yeah. Michael Bradley does that. Michael Bradley is probably listening to this right now. You suck dude. Yeah. Um, okay.

My last question, it's a Seeky question. Put in promo code take you get $10 off your Seeky purchase. Explain to me the Levy on Bell situation because I cannot figure it out. You know, I hear that he's going to get quarterback money next year. I don't know how that works. Yeah. What the hell? I wish I could explain it to you.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I am as confused as anybody else. Here's my understanding is that there's like a loophole in the CBA where if a player doesn't play for a full year and doesn't sign his franchise tender, then the next year they have the option to either transition tag him or they have to pay him the average of the top five salaries in the NFL, which all happened to be quarterbacks. Are you just reading PFT? Yeah. No, that's, I read an article earlier this week and that's what I remember from it.

So I probably am just like reading verbatim what Florio wrote, but that's my understanding. But what's the, what's the, do you know the sentiment in the Pittsburgh locker room and like the organization? Do they even want him back? You know, that was bizarre to me a few weeks ago when some guys kind of complained about him because I guess they got the impression from him that, that he was coming back and then he didn't, and he didn't explain himself, you know, I think that there are probably a handful of guys there that understand his motives and, and are like, yeah, get your

money or, or, you know, protect yourself or whatever. But I don't think he's got a lot of fans on the offensive line. Hmm. That's tough when you're running back. You probably want the offensive line to like you. You want those guys blocking. Yeah. Geez.

Yeah. And I kind of see it from their perspective a little bit in that, you know, if you have a stud running back behind you and you're, you're an offensive lineman, it does make you look better too. Like it could affect your future earnings if, you know, the guy that you're blocking forwards and doing so well. But that's not the case this year because Connor's a monster. A story I've always wanted to write, guys that played with Michael Vick secretly hated

it because he was running around so much that people ended up falling all around their legs because the plays were going on too long and there were, there were several careers that were cut short or ended or guys got like bad grades and had bad tape and didn't get the money they should have got because they played too long with Michael Vick. That's kind of like Russell Wilson. Like Russell Wilson, the offensive line for the Seattle has, has never been great, but I think they get some unjust criticism because Russell Wilson has a tendency to leave clean pocket instead of stepping up.

He'll step out, that kind of stuff. It makes everyone look kind of a little bit worse and he's never like a first read guy. Like he's never thrown it like Tom Brady, like 1.92 seconds, like as soon as it hits his hand. The guys are going to look worse blocking for him for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I got one last thing I want to bring up.

My guy Joe Flacco is, he's hurt possibly injured. I've, I heard some rumblings and this is through just a random person that DM me that he might be done for the year. So I'm first reporting that here on part of my tape, but it's probably not true. So do they go, do you think that they're, they're going to go to Lamar off of the bi-week and a second part of that question, do you see Harbaugh sticking around after this year? I think they do go to Lamar after the bi-week. I think they finished strong and I think Harbaugh is going to be the coach there for

another year. I think that they're one of the like 10, 12 organizations that like really will give a coach a long leash, especially one that has had success and won a Super Bowl. And I'm just, I would put money on Harbaugh being there for a while. I mean, they do seem like that. They're almost like the Steelers, you know, the new age Steelers where teams, and I actually like that. I think that's the way to go because when you keep firing people, it just becomes a

revolving door and you just end in that kind of weird hellscape where you just have a different coach every two years. Let me toss this out for you. Okay. So let's say Lamar, he shows some promise at the end of this year. Things don't go well with Harbaugh for whatever reason. He goes to Green Bay, which I think we reported he's going to do that, right big cat? Who?

Harbaugh to Green Bay? No, Urban Meyers is going to go to Green Bay. Harbaugh is staying. Okay. Harbaugh stays. Urban Meyers goes to Green Bay, Mike McCarthy goes to the Browns, Bob Stubbs coaches Ohio State. Okay.

Got it. But let's just say Harbaugh is gone. What if, wait, let me just say, let me just fix that. Harbaugh goes to Ohio State. Okay. Thanks for telling us. So that's Harbaugh versus Harbaugh, Michigan, Ohio State. That would be amazing.

Yeah. They just wouldn't, they'd probably just kill each other. Yeah. That'd be awesome. Someone would die. Bobby Petrino, coach of the Ravens. Get the band back together. Yeah.

Did he just get fired today? Was that today? Yeah. He got fired today. I mean, he's been always, he's been pretty much fired all year. And he has, he has to coach wearing the neck brace that he wore in that press conference. I have to admit, I don't watch college football. I admire, I've admired you guys for a while because you have energy for so much football.

Oh yeah. But I get, I get sick of it and I have to go do something just non football related on a Saturday morning. Oh, what's wrong with you? Dude, so you don't want, I mean, I'm like on hour, like 45 right now of watching straight football since Friday night and I've never felt more alive. The thing that bothers me is, is when I see them get hurt and I think about how much money they've made for the institution without really any appropriate remuneration.

Yeah. You think too much, man. Do you do? Yeah. Like that's a problem. Just let it go. Don't think as much as that. Like that's too much thinking.

Yeah. You just got to stop thinking. That's my brain and watch football. I'm going to work on that. All right. Well, Robert, thank you so much. We appreciate it. Hopefully see you soon and good luck for the rest of the season.

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PMT right now. That's netsuite.com slash PMT. Okay, let's get to some segments. By the way, I forgot to mention, Cody Parkey hit four doinks today. All time. All time. Great spin zone, too. One after, he said that that was the day Jesus meant him to have.

That's the Russell Wilson. That is all time. Yeah. Well, Jesus would know about nailing crossbars. Listen, yeah, exactly. We need to start doing this. We picked up two new things today. Okay, cool, hook them.

And any other time something bad happens, well, that's just what Jesus wanted me to do. This is the day that Jesus made for me. Jesus wanted me to just get jerked off at an Asian massage parlor. Okay, hook. Cool, hook them. Good luck debating that. Yeah, exactly.

You can't argue with that one. Okay, let's do some segments. We have first up, we aren't even naming this, it's just the Jimmy Butler trade saga. So Jimmy Butler has finally been traded. Yeah, for like a king's ransom, right? It was just like all sorts of high picks and quality talent, like a couple of young prospects, right? Well, he did get traded for Robert Covington and Dario Sarge.

Yeah. Covington was a starter, was he not? Young guy. Okay. Dario Sarge played well last year. Jimmy Butler fucked over the Timberwolves. Make no mistake about it. He fucked him over.

Like he basically, doing what he did gave them zero leverage and I don't know if you read the, he had like the, he had an interview after the game on Friday night, I think it was, where he basically was like, yeah, I shouldn't be playing this much, these many minutes. I'm going to sit out when I want to sit out. I don't give a fuck. And the Timberwolves are like, okay, well now we're screwed. So this whole thing fell apart, traded them to the Sixers and now we have a few storylines

that we have to bring out there that you're going to hear a lot about. Yes. I have a hypothesis about Jimmy Butler. Okay. I mean, he's an asshole, by the way. Yeah. Well, I don't defend him anymore. He is.

But my theory about him is he's like a vaccine. Okay. Okay. So if you can handle a little bit of Jimmy Butler in your team system, then he's going to turn all the players on your team into like these hard nose kind of dickhead guys that'll be hyper competitive and if they can handle them. Still waiting to see that happen to Kat. Yeah.

They're waiting on that one. They couldn't handle it. Yeah. Up there. Okay. He was too much. They're Minnesota nice up on the Timberwolves. He couldn't handle that.

If you have like a compromised immune system and you get a vaccine and you bring in a Jimmy Butler when maybe your team isn't the most mentally tough. It just breaks down. It just gives you all the disease. Well, good news, the Sixers definitely are mentally tough. They got the guy who's afraid to shoot threes and the guy who's afraid to shoot, period. Yes. Great.

The storylines that we're going to see, obviously you have to say big three. Are they a big three? Simmons and Bead and Butler. Yeah. They're a big three. What the hell? You gotta have a big three. You gotta have a big three.

Also, this, I think, by Jimmy Butler going away from the Timberwolves, the Timberwolves now have a big three. Carl Anthony Towns, Andrew Wiggins, Derek Rose. Addition by subtraction. Yes. Yeah. Who's mans? We also have the has the power shifted to the east.

Is east tougher than the west? Mmm. I like that narrative. People are saying that. The top four in the east are better than the top four in the west. The east is top heavy. The east is like Donald Trump's dick. Yes.

And it narrows significantly after those first four teams. Okay. The west has a more consistent shaft. Yeah. So that's the other one. And then who's the team to beat in the east now, Hank? You think it's still the Celtics? Yeah.

Actually, no. Technically, it's the Cavs. Technically, it's the Cavs. It's Tristan Thompson. They are the eastern conversation champions. And they're learning all sorts of lessons. Yes. It is the Cavs.

But it's too early to say now. The east is going to be very interesting because Yanis is an absolute beast. The bucks look awesome. The wrappers look great. The Celtics obviously have a ton of talent. And now the Sixers have their big three. I'm still, I don't know, I could see this going very poorly for the 76ers. Oh yeah.

Absolutely. It absolutely is a boomer bust move on their part. The process is complete. Are we still in the process? No, it's done. This is the final play of the process. How can you be sure? Well, because the whole thing is just get as many draft picks, tank, tank, tank, draft,

and then trade for a big chip. This is it. And every report says that they're planning on resigning Jimmy Butler, which good luck with that. Who knows what the fuck. Whatever Mark Bulberg decides is what Jimmy Butler is going to do. Okay. And he's going to be a dick about it no matter what.

So it's going to be a painstaking process to resign Jimmy Butler. Here's the litmus test for whether or not the process is over or not. If you bring Carmelo Anthony on your team, the process is over. Okay. You've expanded the process. You've finished the process. No, that's past you. You're starting to undo the process.

Got it. When he's like the last piece of your puzzle. You're breaking down it. Yeah. Yeah. You're stretching the process. You're taking the tent down. Yes.

You're stretching the process too thin. Yeah. Okay. Well, so that's actually perfect for our next segment. We have Staymelo. Carmelo Anthony is done with the Rockets after 15 games or whatever it may be. Dwayne Wade is tweeting. Great run.

Dwayne Wade is tweeting that the Rockets are trying to make him the fall guy, which I don't really know what that means. He's like, what was the exact quote? It was like, you know what the real problem is? Mm-hmm. And he said, trying to make my guy Carmelo Anthony the fall guy, huh, man, you all need to stop. That's easy way out instead of addressing what the real problem is.

Is that a shot at Chris Paul? I don't know. He's a banana boat guy. He is a banana boat guy. So maybe James Harden. I was actually thinking about the banana boat. Like they might have it all figured out there with banana boat. Like hockey guys, they get in Ubers and they get videotape talking shit to each other.

You can't put a GoPro on a banana boat and like videotape what they're saying to each other. Well, but you forgot one little piece. You can put LeBron's Instagram stories after a couple bottles of wine. That's very true. So he's always taping. I still am so excited for like, I'd say 2023 when all these guys are still in the league and they're like, could they make a super team?

Melo, LeBron, Chris Paul, Dwayne Wade, all of them getting together in LA. It's like wild hogs. Yeah. Exactly. Wild hogs is the movie. Who the fuck? That was a terrible movie, wasn't it? Tim Allen.

Tim Allen, John Travolta. That was a great movie. Or the Adam Sandler movie. One of those franchises. I was going to say. Gronam's too. Sneaky funny movies. Okay.

But it's grown up four. Yeah. And maybe that's maybe that's actually LeBron's final play. Here's what he's going to do. Make some movie inside of a season with Adam Sandler on the team. He does that. But in any like late stage Adam Sandler movie, you have to have like the setting somewhere very tropical.

So you're getting paid to go on a vacation for six months. So maybe LeBron gets an expansion franchise in Hawaii and signs him, Dwayne Wade, Chris Paul, Adam Sandler, Kevin Farley, Rob Lowe, Rob Lowe, Rob Schneider. Rob Schneider definitely. He's as the basketball. Kate Upton's the coach. Rob Schneider just curls up into a ball and then they shoot him. Kate Upton's the coach.

What's the other name? Brooklyn Roddick. Is that her name? Brooklyn Roddick. No. She's married to Andy Roddick. Brooklyn Decker. Brooklyn Decker is like the assistant coach.

All the coaches just have big breasts because that's Adam Sandler's way. And also Jennifer Aniston is the GM. Big nips for tits. You big nits for tits. All right. So we got to, we're someone write this down. We'll pitch it to them. Okay.

Something to think about Kyrie after the Celtics lost to the Trailblazers tonight said, right now I think it would be nice if we had someone that was a 15 year vet, a 14 year vet that could kind of help us race along the regular season and understand it's a long marathon rather than just a full on sprint. Oh my God. So the door, the door might be open. Wow. So Mellow, I don't know.

It sounds like Dwayne Whid's trying to get him on the heat. I don't know where he's going to end up, but wherever he ends up, it's going to be sad. Like no one has met, the thing that sucks about this is I like laughing about Mellow and he's very funny to, to make fun of, you know, hoodie Mellow and you know, this is the season and then he comes back and his stomach looks like a bag of donuts and all that stuff. But what's going to end up happening is he's going to keep hanging on and keep doing this and it's going to ruin his legacy because he actually was an unbelievable basketball

player and like Syracuse Mellow and Nuggets Mellow and like being an unbelievable scorer. It's all going to be ruined except he still has the gold medals. Never forget. Yeah. Whatever team he goes to, they should do, you know how teams are doing their alternate jerseys that have the cities on them. Yeah. They should just wear the team USA jerseys.

Yeah. Yeah. And then he'd score 49. Yeah. He'd be good to go. Hank, do you want him? No. No, absolutely.

There was a summer that I want. Remember the summer Mellow when I wanted Mellow? Hot dog. Hot dog gang. He would have, I still contested that. He would have, he would have been the perfect piece for that Bulls team. He would have been Jabari Parker. He would have been the perfect.

He was still, he was still had some prime in him. He did. It was before he signed the long deal, long term deal with the Knicks. I mean, he had. It was terrible for the Knicks. It was like four years ago, five years ago. No, he was still, he was okay. He was okay in his first couple.

He would have been perfect. He has to go to the Lakers. How funny would that be? He would be the perfect addition for that like comedy mismatch team. So good. So good. Okay. Next up, we have a shoot your shot.

This is for our friend, Jared Goff. The Rams apparently have a audible called Halle Berry. So would have been nice to know for them to tell us. Yeah. Would have been nice to know. Good point, Hank. So he said Halle Berry and there was a video on Twitter and Halle Berry said, excuse me. And Jared Goff responded to Halle Berry and said, it's my favorite play ever.

Nice. Nice, Jared. Nice. You do you. Nice. Halle Berry is, she's timeless. Yes. Well, I would hope so.

Because Jared Goff is like 22. And she dated Chris Webby, who's like kind of a random no name rapper. No. Chris Webby. Is that his real name? That's his rap name. Oh, okay. Chris Webber has a rapper named after him.

No. There's a guy named Chris Webby who pretty much a no name rapper. Does he have webtoes? So all it just, no, no. This is the deal. Why is Chris Webby? I don't know. Like what?

He was like, he was like Asher, Asher Roth, Sammy Adams, Chris Webby, Mack Miller. Yeah. You're saying white guys. He was in the fab five of Asher Roth. Sure. Okay. That makes sense now. That definitely makes sense.

My point is that she doesn't have like the highest standard for dating people. So our guy, Jared. Oh, wow. Shots of Chris Webby. Never thought, never thought I'd see the day where Chris Webby gets roasted on this podcast. So wait, are you saying that there's, you're saying there's a chance for Jared Goff because she doesn't have high standards. She's a quarterback of the Los Angeles Rams.

And hot as fuck. We saw him in that sweatshirt in a band. True. Yeah. Andy puts out forest fires. Yeah. So that really, you really burned a lot of bridges with that step. Yeah.

That whole one minute there, Chris Webby's never coming on the podcast. Jared Goff's never coming on the back on the podcast. Halle Berry shot. It wasn't a shot. It wasn't not a shot of Jared at all. It's, I'm pulling for my boy. Well, you're like Chris Webby is like a joke of a rapper and disgusting human being. So, Jared has a shot.

Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. Yes. I guess I could say that. Oh man. She also, she was married to David Justice too for a while, right? He was a good athlete.

I think you're thinking of Lisa left iLopez. No, that's Andre Ryzen. That's right. And she burned his house down. So, Lana, the whole thing. That was just an Atlanta mistake. There's a lot of Atlanta sports stuff. Yeah.

Yeah, that's right. We, people forget we had David Justice on the podcast like, remember we had, I interviewed him myself at that card show and I brought up Halle Berry and it got very awkward and it was just me. That was a solo mission. Yeah, because yeah, that was a bad, that was, that was tough. Last up before we have our Monday reading, we have Stay Classy Redskins social media. So PFC, you explain what the Redskins tweeted because they've deleted it.

Yeah. So there was a, there's a video of Dirk Cutter, the coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for now. And before we're recording this, he's still the coach. I don't know if by the time you listen to it, it'll be the same. But he was like throwing out candy to all the reporters for Halloween, just trying to fatten them up and make them write good things about him because he's obviously, you know, he needs to look out for his job.

The Redskins took that video and they edited it and instead of candy, they just had little L's that he was just tossing out. That's awesome. And so they tweeted that out and then I have it right here. So Rick Stroud said, Redskins official account posted this doctored video from last week when Dirk Cutter tossed out candy left for him to the media. Stay Classy Redskins. I'm happy that he made it clear that it was doctored.

It was doctored. This is not the original. At first I thought it was, he actually was throwing L's at people. All these tiny L's. Yeah. Well, to be fair, Washington got that video from prison Paul at Info Wars. True. To sped it up.

Yes. But well, he sped it up. They took the video and they put it up there. So yeah, it was doctored footage of throwing the L's out. Stay Classy. God, we can't have any fun anymore. Also Rick NFL Stroud. This guy isn't real.

Oh, he's very real. Busy covering bucks NFL for Tampa times and host of the sports day Tampa Bay, a podcast. His picture is like off centered. His Twitter name is NFL Stroud. This guy is so fake. That's how you know somebody's legit like as an NFL writer, if they put NFL before their name. Okay.

Last. Tucker NFL. Yeah. True. True. That's official. This is official as it gets. All right.

Last up, we have our Monday reading and this one's a doozy, folks. I hope you're sitting down. If you're not sitting down, sit down right now, but also sit up with correct posture. Yeah. Please sit up with the correct posture. So this is from the New York Times opinion. And the title of it is I miss Northwestern football's losing tradition. So just, just buckle up.

Buckle up. Okay. This sounds like it was probably written by like a rival school of Northwestern. No, no. It turns out it wasn't. Okay. Let's, let's dive into it. So, uh, the name of the person who wrote this is Carmel McCobrey.

That's Carmel. Carmel. Okay. Carm. Um, did you, did you get to the part where Carm dies? Carmel? No. Okay.

All right. You'll get to it. All right. The football. No, I won't. All right. So she ends up like hooking up with this guy and Tony Ferriero. Yeah.

Uh, I knew. Oh, you got to Ferriero. Ferriero is a pussy though. He never did it. Did what? He never hooked up with it. He just had feelings. Yeah.

And then he almost pushed Tony, Tony into a helicopter. Um, you know, that's true. It's actually a plane propeller. Yeah. That's true. All right. Here we go. The football team at my alma mater Northwestern is having a pretty good season once that

would have thrilled me. Now it just makes me uneasy. So she goes in and she talks about her first games, how they sucked back in like, you know, when she was a student in 1982 and how they have basically turned it all around and gets to today, present day, and she talks about how she worked for the, the student paper and all this stuff. And she, they also used to yell, we'll pick up right here. The end, the students in the Northwestern student sections, UCL, that's all right.

That's okay. You're going to work for us one day. Very cool. You're just in classes, yes, but satisfying. So she's still satisfied with it. Still satisfied. So then she, she does this whole thing. By the way, is that, is that true?

They're like a bunch of people from Northwestern or other people's bosses. Yeah. I guess so. I don't know. I just felt like they were all journalists who have bosses. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

Who basically have deadlines. Yeah. You get yelled at more than anyone. You're going to intern for us one day and get us coffee and then we'll be, we'll complain to you because you got us medium roses and dark roses one day. Yeah. So she's like, basically says that Northwestern sucked for a really long time, but we were smarter than everyone and it made us feel good.

Really cool. Cool sentiment. So we pick up at present day and she's talking about how they used to be bad and, and that was all right. That was okay because nobody went to Northwestern for its football prowess. I don't recall ever meeting a fellow student who regretted taking a pass on Ohio State because the football there was better. If only a few of our players got jobs in the NFL, that was all right and okay too.

I don't, do people choose colleges solely because of football in general? No, I don't think that they do. I don't think anyone does. I think they choose on a wide variety of things. Recruits. Recruits. Yeah. But she's basically saying I never met a student who was like, oh yeah, I was thinking

about going to Ohio State, but I, you know, I decided to go to Northwestern even though the football team sucked. Yeah. That's not, like the people that want to go to Northwestern probably wouldn't be the ones that would be drawn through Ohio State. And you know what? That's all right. That's okay.

You don't know how to drink anyway. So it's been disconcerting in recent years to see Northwestern be competitive in the Big Ten and regularly appear in bowl games. Right now, as the Times noted with bemusement last week, it leads its division with a five and one conference record. She's pissed. She's mad that Northwestern's winning. I also like how she's such a capital J that she cited her source.

Her source was the New York Times that Northwestern was leading the division. That wasn't just a fact. Nope. That was reported by the New York Times, ever heard of it? Yes. We fact-checked it. Yes. All right.

The school has invested plenty in the team. A couple of months ago, an indoor practice facility on Prime Lakefront property opened a part of a $270 million complex that Northwestern hopes will lure recruits and render practices more efficient. It is a sick facility. Awesome facility. Like, insanely nice. And it will make the team more competitive in a conference that has a lucrative television

deal. So it sounds like they're just going to make more money and it's going to, okay, all right. It's a common place for non-athletes to complain about too many resources being devoted to athletics, but colleges should spend money on sports for a lively campus and promote students' health. Wow. Okay. So I think we agree. Yeah.

Sounds like she's making it. Okay. We're good. Oh, wait. And there's the problem. Football's not healthy. Oh, okay. Here we go.

That was, she dropped it. She did a little, like, put out her hand like, hey, here we go. Oh, just kidding. You know what? Football's not healthy. It was healthy when you were getting your ass kicked. Yes. When you were really getting your brain mashed.

Yes. It's actually the exact opposite. It's probably safer now that you have people that can actually hit other players. And that you can control the clock. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably doing better for your team. Okay.

So it's been much more disconcerting than my alma mater's success and its big investment in the sport comes as we are being reminded every day of the price football players pay in traumatic brain injury. The rash of chronic traumatic, I can't read that word, among NFL players. Incephalopathy. Incephalopathy. Among NFL players has gotten the most attention, but college players are hurt too. Some colleges like Dartmouth are trying to ways to reduce these injuries by eliminating

tackling and practice and taking other measures, but they remain outliers. You're talking about the fucking tackling dumps. They're talking about the robot. Yeah, we got it. The tackling robot. News of Northwestern Triumphs now just serves as a reminder that there are real young men behind those wins whose brains are being battered. Just now.

Just now you realize that these people are real people. All players have just now become real people because you have a moral conscience that you can't figure out because her friends are talking to her about Northwestern football at a more frequent pace. They weren't real people when we were losing. But now that they're winning, they're real people underneath those helmets. I want the Wildcats to win less so they won't play as much. So it's a bowl game.

It's a championship. They're going to play an indie and then they're going to play a bowl game. This is the problem. That's the issue. Fuck. Okay. But isn't that a little bit classist of her to say that maybe some kid that went to a state school that maybe didn't have the right of a future as you might have if you go to

Northwestern, that person should take your place in the bowl game? They should play more games down in Ohio State where we don't need their brains because they're going to work for us. They're going to work for us. So we'll tell them what to do. Technically, our brains are more valuable for them too so that we can ensure that they have good jobs later. The dumber they are is better for me because I can just keep them suppressed.

It's better for them. Forever. Yeah. Because they don't know how suppressed they are. They like being suppressed. This fucking woman. All right. It's also making me increasingly uncomfortable giving to my old school.

Oh, we got a donation problem here. When I donate nowadays, I make sure to earmark my gift so it won't be applied to the football team in some way. But I'm wondering if I'm still making myself complicit. Fuck. This is why you guys lost your accreditation. This is overthinking something way too much. Okay.

But I'm wondering if I'm still making myself complicit by donating at all to a university that is willing to risk its students' health and happiness for a share of television revenue. The Wildcats play Iowa on Saturday. A victory would put them a step closer to the Big Ten championship game after the regular season. I'll root for them to play safe and lose. All right. All right.

This is what happens when Northwestern starts to fucking win games. That's a take quick. Yeah. Pat Fitzgerald. We love him. He's a football guy. We have friends on that team. We love Alex Spanos, the strength and condition coach, but they're alumni.

When they're writing shit like this, you are, you're dangerous to society. You know what's funny? If you put this in front of Greeny and had Greeny read this, he would get very uncomfortable with himself because he'd be like, I see, I see this point. I even watched next week's game. I don't know. Yeah. We could use this to just really drive a wedge in Northwestern's fan base.

Yeah. Ravel would just have, well, no, not really. He's a robot. He's a robot. He doesn't have any of these concerns. He'll just tweet out someone's social security number instead. Yeah. He's totally fine with all this.

Yeah. Yeah. Listen, if you're going to think this, if you're going to go to the extent to like think that your team being good is problematic, then maybe just college sports aren't right for you. Maybe sports in general. Maybe just like doing, I don't know, doing anything else. Yeah.

If you are struggling this much with watching sports, it's just, they're not for you. They're not for everyone. I would actually respect this take if she wrote it when they were bad. Yes. Right? Yes. But the reason why it all falls apart is because she's complaining that now that they're good, I'm beginning to realize that it's an issue.

These people are real. Yeah. Oh my God. All right. So Northwestern, congrats on winning the Big Ten West. Pat Fitzgerald actually is an awesome coach. Yeah. And I'll bet, you know what it was?

She probably saw, what's the name? Alex Spanos? Yeah. She probably saw Alex Spanos on the sidelines and that's a guy that if she saw like in a Northwestern campus building, she'd probably just dial 911. I was going to say, she probably called the cops on him on the city. Like there's a man with large muscles and he doesn't have a jacket on his 28th degrees in Iowa City.

He's not supposed to be here. Someone, someone called the police. This young man is trespassing. A restless man. He's got, he's got rabies. I believe it's daylight. I believe he's homeless, possibly Italian. Get him off my campus.

He's Italian or Greek. Yeah. He's, yeah. He's Southern Eastern European and I don't want to generalize, but you know, this guy doesn't look like he belongs here. Oh my God. Congrats Northwestern. All right.

We're going to see you guys Wednesday. We have a huge, huge guest. Big, big guest. Well, future Hall of Famer. Future Hall of Famer. If everything goes right and it will, he will be in the Hall of Famer in like 30 years, but big, big guest. Big, big guest.

Love you guys.