Pardon My Take - Trevor Lawrence, Mt Rushmore Of Worst Places To Be Violently Hungover, HR Derby Picks And We Get Zac A Date With A Fan

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

It’s the slowest week in the sports calendar and we talk some HR Derby, Wimbledon, that weird soccer tourney and more (00:00:00-00:25:35). Who’s back of the week including Hank recapping the UFC card and a WSOP controversy (00:25:35-00:45:33). Mt Rushmore of worst places to be violently hungover (00:45:33-01:11:59). Jacksonville Jaguars QB Trevor Lawrence joins the show to talk about his career, how important this year is, squeezing his dad out on the couch on draft night, Liam Coen, Dabo and tons more (01:11:59-01:56:16). We finish with workshopping Zac’s reply to his new admirer that wants to take him on a date (01:56:16-02:10:28).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have an awesome, awesome interview with Trevor Lawrence. Really cool guy. Great time with him. Out in Tahoe last week. We're going to talk some sports. We have the home run derby coming up on Monday night. Real shame that Christian Yelch is not competing. Damn shame. Real shame. We had Wimbledon final. We had whatever that soccer tournament final was. Yep. We had the MLB draft. We're going to do Who's Back of the Week. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of worst places to be when you're violently hung over. And then we're going to get Zach a date at the end of the show and in place for our Monday reading. It's going to be a Monday. Zach responds

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have the home run Derby. And last we talked to you, uh, we were finishing up chill week out in Tahoe. So we recorded early in the day on that Thursday and it hadn't been finalized who was going to be in the home run derby. It is now finalized. There is no Christian Yellich. We did it one more year of keeping our tongues out of each other's buttholes. The sickos and perverts are besides themselves. And when I say sickos and perverts, I'm talking about one memes. Yep.

This is very, very disappointing to you. Memes. It was jazz chisel. The last guy that they put in jazz chisel. Then also Olson. Yeah. Good for Matt Olson was a CUNY who got hurt. And then also, or no, did.

Yeah. CUNY is being replaced by Matt Olson. Yeah. By Matt Olson from the Braves. Yes. We have friends in the show. We have, we have, we have Cal Raleigh. We have Matt Olson, James Wood.

It's going to be a great, great home runner. And you know, what's great is it's good for the sport not to have people Associate the home run derby with Anna Lingus. Yes, I'd agree I also have a gift that was given to us that I would like to present to you guys. Okay ahead of the home run derby, okay This truly is the best sports weekend of the year that we just went through. It was amazing. Oh, that's a, we got awesome drink. PFT and I got big dumper signed jerseys. We got to put these up in, maybe we just put them up in every room. I love that. Yeah. So we are going to be rooting for Cal Raleigh. The big dumper signed jerseys. Uh, this one's yours. PFT. Oh, sweet. Yeah. Big dumper. Look at that.

Big dumper. Memes responds in the booth was they should be eating dumpers instead of this. Oh memes. That's disgusting. That is disgusting. Hank, here's your big dumper. This is awesome. So we got to put this up in the studio. I think if big dumper wins memes, you got to show ass. I just love that he actually signed it. Big dumper. Yeah, that's great. With an exclamation point. So he's happy to sign it. This is great. That's good for the sport. We got some bright young stars. But yeah, Big Cat, when you were introing the show, I just thought to myself, what a

great sports week in this. We had the soccer thing, the tournament thing that that was on a soccer field. We had still our says clubs, club, club something. We had the World Cup of clubs clubs. We had the baseball draft, which was very exciting. Yep. One thing I will say about baseball fans, though, they understand the assignment when it comes to just straight up booing the commissioner. Yeah. He went out there, he took 32 boos to the face or how I think they went two rounds. Yeah. So he just got booed nonstop. And then, yeah, just what a magical weekend. Wimbledon. Wimbledon which I I watched three sets of uh, uh Yeah, it's great weekend great sports week great sports weekend my favorite weekend of the year we're gonna start I was sure we

Are we all gonna just bet Cal Raleigh to the only problem? I have with Cal Raleigh in the home run derby is his dad is pitching to him now his dad was a coach Yeah, and a claim coach, but I always get a little nervous about that I would Harper's dad did that a few years ago. I would rather have it be the guy who pitches you batting practice every single day. Because at some point, if it's your dad, he's going to enter the mindset of, I can't let my son just tee off on me like this. Not only that, but I do think that when it's your dad, I think his brother is catching. So that's very cool.

But is it too cool? The moment might be too special. It's like, we're here. brother is catching. So that's very cool. But is it too cool? It might be too, the moment might be too special. It's like we're here, this is incredible, it's all gravy after that. No, no, no. Cal, we want you to win this thing. But according to the Oedipus complex, you should want to take your dad deep all day. Yeah. Right? Like that should be the thing that every man has inside them. Like I want to take my dad yard.

So maybe that will work. And then I think maybe we should sprinkle a little Matt Olson just because we'll just bet on her friends I'm gonna sprinkle some James Wood too. Okay woods. Okay Yeah, so then we have the oh we also had for the All-Star game on Tuesday night Little bit of controversy Max's Phillies were very upset. Mm-hmm that there was a late edition From the Milwaukee Brewers. Yeah, Max, you're being a baby about it. The Miz. He has five career games. And how many strikeouts? Like a billion. Way less than Christopher Sanchez and Ranger Suarez. So that's who you're mad about? Yeah. Christopher Sanchez, technically it's a very stupid rule but you cannot be replaced by a guy who's pitching on Sunday and like a MLB all-star rule.

Okay. Which is bullshit because the guys should still be recognized they get bonuses like that's unfair but Rangers Suarez has a sub to ERA. We know that for a fact. Yep for a fact. Yeah. With three times the amount of starts as this misery as this Mizorowski guy How do you possibly?

Look at that and be like this guy is more deserving than Rangers worse. I don't know makes no sense I don't I don't same pop. Yeah, I don't know deserving is the right word. I think why why since when is it? Since when is being deserving not a thing it for all-star game I'm saying this move is not deserving because you're right this guy only has what you said five starts He does throw the ball like a million miles an hour It's got a lot of tune in and try to grow the game people want to watch it Like this guy throws the ball so fast so hard. He's had a great start to his career. Yeah, I'm a misery Oskie guy. I don't even know how to say his name is not because the brews are right, but I the they're they're good again

Misery business Whatever it is this guy this guy's fun to watch by the way I just want to say as a side for anyone who ever thinks that Max is like doing some type of bit I can attest he's not because he was screaming about Ranger Suarez's eRA in the pool yesterday when we were hammered and it was Like way too loud for everyone around. He has a 194 ERA. So this is who he is all the time. Yeah. All the time. But who's going to tune in to watch Ranger Suarez over Misery? Not me. Not me. Mizrowski is, he puts asses in seats. I don't even think we're tuning in because we're going to be doing our home

run derby. That's right. But if, if I were to tune in, it would be because of Missouri or ASCII. Yeah, dude, he's got a two eight, one ERA. That's pretty good. It sounds like five games. Anti-police. Swarovski has a one nine four in 13 games, 33 strikeouts. Just admit it is. Listen, Max, it's the all star game. It's a popularity contest. They're trying to add someone. It's not a vote. So they're like, let's add the guy that we'll get a pop. That's what they're doing. You can't blame MLB for doing that. They're trying anything to get more eyeballs. They want a phenom in there. And guess what? Five stars is insane.

You can just root for him to be bad and then we can all, and then you'll look at the most guy. I now hate this guy. I now want this guy to be the biggest bust in MLB history. Yeah. They also, in the All-Star game, they're gonna have the automated ball strike system. Oh, so we're gonna get robot arms for the first time. Cool. Star game. Cool. Wait, are the real arms gonna be there? I think they're gonna be there, but they're gonna use the AI system. Got it. Yeah. All right.

So yeah, that that's our MLB. And then we had Yeah, we had the draft. The baseball draft, which is always fun, because it's like you draft a guy and then you have to hope that he'll sign Yeah, so that's after a high schooler and be like, please come take this money. The Nats had the first overall pick I think everybody expected they were gonna go with a pitcher from LSU or they were gonna go with Holiday. Yeah, and another holiday they went with neither of the two In fact, if you had bet on them this morning I think one of them was like plus 200,

the other was like plus 300. And the guy that they ended up drafting, Eli Willits, was in the any other player category. After there were like seven players that they listed. So then I had to do a crash course on why, I had to learn why in baseball, you don't always draft the best guy if you have the first overall pick.

Cause you partially need them to be able to sign. It would help if the Nationals drafted a player who was not represented by Scott Boris. draft the best guy if you have the first overall pick. Because you partially need them to be able to sign. It would help if the Nationals drafted a player who was not represented by Scott Boris. Correct. Who has just bent them over for the last 10 years repeatedly. Correct. So I think we drafted this guy because we're afraid of Scott Boris. And also because we had to-

King stay king, Scott Boris. King, big time king. Yeah. Like put that pelt on your wall, Scott. But apparently you draft a player because you have a set allotment of money that you can give it signing bonuses So if you take a guy first overall that was projected to go eighth ninth or tenth overall It'll be like yeah, then you can pay him less money less than the 11 million That was slotted and then you'll have more money later on to entice high school kids to come play for you

Instead of them saying no, thanks. I'd rather go to college. Yeah, that's my general understanding of why you don't always take to make sense of a weird system. You got their baseball. Yeah, it is a little weird. And there's like 50 rounds. Yeah. And then I saw who the Phillies got. And the first thing that went through my mind when I saw who the Phillies got was this was the fucking how we did it again. Yeah, this is a classic Eagles move. You got you got one of the best pitchers in baseball that fell to you

And did he have like did he have a game in college World Series where he gave up no hits? Yeah, that was a full a complete game no hitter. He had 19 strikeouts. No hitter. Yeah, correct Give him no hits. That is correct. Yeah, this one player pitch nine innings. It is funny. I strike out in baseball. It's like, all right We're college World Series no hitter That's a memorable one a holiday the guy who did the coke celebration at third base. Those are pretty much the stories. Yep That's our time. I'll be draft recap. It's good. We crushed it. Ah, do you guys want to talk about? Wimbledon? Sure. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the first set and then you know what I'm just gonna go full on ESPN for this segment. Just pretend this is the NBA finals. Alcaraz needs to step up in the third set. Yeah. He didn't step up. No, he didn't have the heart. I also think that if you take out all I'm

counting this as Djokovic is 25th major because he played center better than Alcaraz played center and center is a center and he's a cheater. So therefore, it's so facto joke of which is the goat 25th major Grand Slam championship. That's incredible. You don't you agree? It's fascinating stuff. Yeah. Oh, did you guys see the long report about how LeBron is basically being left in the dark by the Lakers because it was pretty awesome. So they told they told Luca that the team was being sold. There was a couple stories. Yeah, that was the big one.

But they did not tell LeBron. They did not tell LeBron the team was being sold. They also had a meeting after the season ended that was Polinka, JJ Reddick, Luca, and Luca's agent. And LeBron was not invited and it was basically a meeting talking about who they want, who Luca wants to play with. Essentially LeBron you no longer get to do these things that you've done for your entire career which made sense at the time but I feel like this is heading for I don't

think I don't think LeBron's playing for the Lakers next year. This feels like it feels like a move that they they knew that was gonna piss LeBron off correct He's gonna find out about it but it also makes sense because they they have Luca they have to start building the team around Luca like LeBron deserves any way that he wants to go out because of what he's done in the NBA and how long he's been You know so great But if you're the Lakers you can't, you can't just let them like hold you hostage for the last couple of years of his career and not try to build a winner around Luca. And he's an expiring contract for the first

time in his career this year. Yeah. And Drake covered up his LeBron tattoo with an SGA tattoo. Really? You see that? No, I didn't. Yeah. I used to say it was the, uh, the though LeBron more He covered it up with like a shitty SGA thing. It looks terrible, but it also feels like something that Drake did just a pissed LeBron Yeah, that's a change. Well, that's because LeBron danced to Kendrick's five not like us. You went to the pop-out. Yeah, you would pop out Wow, what a beef great weekend in sports off-season

What a what a great weekend in sport if Drake covered up my tattoo on his arm, I'd be like, thank you, Drake. Yeah, I appreciate that. But yeah, it does feel like it's maybe over for LeBron in Los Angeles. But where? Cleveland? But where? That's the problem. Where? What if the league retired him? No, I mean, he'll obviously play somewhere. Yeah, I feel like it has to be it has to be Cleveland. Mm-hmm He can't add another Jersey. No if he does that that's weird destroy the legacy It would that makes his legacy ratio really bad. Oh his legacy ratio would be tanked. Yeah Alright, what what else what other big stories happened this weekend? There's something going on with golf Yes pissed about Scott,

the Scottish Open, Scottish Open. Was it were people pissed golf guy, Hank? People were pissed about the greens or something. I just saw like Rory was mad. Then Scotty was mad. I don't know. Scotty was missing pots. He had some very funny reactions. Like he literally had one where he was shaking his fist. Okay. I don't know. I think I think I think I think when pro golfers play bad They you know, they might lash out a little bit. Yeah, or amateur golfers. Yeah, and yeah, but got her up one Good for him got her up. I think he might be he might be an AWL. Really? I think he might be let's go so shout out to got her up

Maybe hit him got her done hit him with a DM Zack get your DM warmed up before the end of the show when we DM this chick. Hit up, got her up right now. I can do that. Yeah, and just hit him up and be like AWL? Question mark. Just feel how it goes. That'd be devastating if he wasn't. Yeah, there's really no sports going on. Not a lot of sports going on. There was a Katie Taylor-Sorano fight. Katie Taylor won again. It was a good fight. They just punched each other in the face for... I don't like the two minute rounds though. I don't like that. It doesn't give you enough time to get in the flow.

Yeah. There was the jockey race. That was awesome. Jockey race was great. We have the TV. The TV's not even on. I was going to say the jockey race was sick. What was that? Peru? Jockey race is elite. Yeah. Those guys were so slow in this. I mean they're running in like if you ever looked If you're a bit on a racetrack the mud is so much deeper than you realize and they put their tiny little legs tiny little It was the most adorable race. We need to have that all the time. Yeah. Yeah

I would like to see them try to eat a hot dog and run a hundred yards. Oh That's that video coming out. I Don't know. We did do that. We don't do. Yeah, and we we crushed it. Mm-hmm All right, we got anything else. This is it's where this is this this this is the worst week in sports I went for who's back Should we just go to the sports? We can do a great Mount Rushmore. I will say to Trevor Lawrence is the man. I think we found that out. There's like he whenever we interview

someone we haven't interacted with before, we're always a little nervous, like, does he get it? He got it and he's the man. He is the man. Oh, at the actual Tahoe, the American Century Championship, we had Pavelski. Yeah, Badger. Former San Jose Shark. Badger. Pavelski won. John Smoltz, I think think came in second place. Yep. Taylor Twellman. Jake Owen was battling. Rich Eisen came in last for men. Yep. Marty Fish came in what like? Top 10 I think. Top 10. 54 points. Charles Barkley played well on Friday. Yeah he did. Like I think he shot what a 37 or a 38 on the front nine? Yeah. Yeah. So I mean it's a very fun tournament. Rob Mack did not beat Charles Barkley close close we Tows the best it's not real life. No, it's it's not

It's just not real life. It's not even seeing it on TV. I was watching the tournament today and I was like Watching on TV doesn't do justice how preposterous of a place that is right? Like you can see it on TV and you're still like if you're there it's you feel like you're in a different planet max and I went to on a boat on Saturday and we found a like a lagoon that had essentially looked like you were in the Caribbean that's how clear the water was actually oh we could talk about that max once he gets figured out at we have a question for you guys all right go just get out of here get out of here scram scram beat it all right so here's a question for you guys all right go just get out of here get out of here scram scram beat it

All right, so here's a question before do the who's back about rush more hate have you guys? In max's worst is worse. He was screaming about Rangers worse in the bar, and there was like kids around it That's really what the fuck dude really inappropriate. So much as a 1.94 ura Have you guys ever? 2001.94 ura Have you guys ever? Seen and this is maybe gonna make max and I seem like not boat guys and I'm fine with that Have you guys ever seen a?

grill on a boat Yeah, yeah fuck a con all the time No, I think I've seen it Precisely one time. Okay. All right, so it's not it's it's pretty rare. Yeah, I've seen it precisely one time. Okay. All right. So it's not, it's, it's pretty rare. Yeah. I've seen it a couple of times. Okay. There's boats that come kind of with the, it's not set up all the time, but you can. Yeah. They did the whole thing. So we were in this beautiful Tahoe lagoon, having a great day and Max and I,

and it was like a bunch of us and Max and I were just locked in on watching another man grill and we were like to the point where all the women on the boat were like dude what are you guys looking at? We're like we're looking at this grill like what he's grilling steak he's doing it to the point where I got drunk enough that I just jumped in the water and I swam over and I complimented their grill and they just started feeding me food. Just tossing in the water like oh was it your boat? No oh no it was another guy who's parked next to us. Like you were a walrus that came up? 100%, I didn't get out of the water.

They were just feet, Max watched this whole thing. They were putting the food, they were my best friends. I was mesmerized by the grill. It had like a little stick that you like twisted into this attachment on the boat. On the outboard, yeah. And it just looked like a little tailgate grill that, I mean, there was some great smoke coming out of there. Great smoke. And it just looked like a little tailgate grill.

There was some great smoke coming out of there. We had fragrances coming from across the lake. And it wasn't like hot dogs and it was steak. Like Max is like Pepe Le Pew on the boat. There was a lot of women that were also on that boat and me and Big Cat just couldn't stop looking at the grill. They were booty shaking and we're like, we don't even notice these women. It's the grill. They were booty shaking. We're like, yeah, I didn't notice these women. It's the grill

I just want to say that's probably the height of coolness is parking a boat in a lagoon and Busting out a grill and cooking steaks. It's a strong move And I think most boats don't have it because you can't have a fire on a boat, right? Oh catches fire You're fucked. He had the little propane And it was so cool. It was so cool. And like I said, I went over and I just I was being honest I was like, I love you guys. Yeah No, I said I was gonna go over like a seal and I was like, I love your guys grilled like you guys want some food

I was like, yes, I do and then I just started throwing meat into the water. Yeah, I was just catching and then Because I was I was very drunk and I was trying to chew while swimming not a great combo No, all right. That was that was big. That was pretty much the biggest sports weekend story There was the guy with the grill who didn't recognize us. So he's never gonna hear this but you that guy rocks It's just the height. I don't know how you can get better than that. That's a good boat. Yeah That's a great great feature to have great fucking boat. I still don't really understand how it works. Still kind of blows my mind. I also don't understand why more boats don't have grills because you're surrounded by water. So if it does catch fire, okay, you got water. It's also you never have to get off your boat

if you have a grill. Yeah. You have everything there. Yeah. Live at sea. Yeah. He was like, he was he was doing a great job, sheffing it up and he was just washing his hands in the water. Mm hmm. In between each course. So alright, that was a boring story, but I really there was not a lot of sports. I watched I watched another documentary about the Titan sub guy. Oh yeah.

Which one? I'm starting to come around on that guy. Listen, he had a vision. He had a vision. He was gonna do it. He just said, Fuck it. And then he knew that the sub wasn't going to work, but he also didn't want to ask his investors for more money. And he was like, fuck it. I'm just going down. Yeah. I, I, I don't know if I only watched one of the two, I think that are out there, but I think the moment when, um, everyone in his company was like,

Hey, this is a really bad idea. And then he's like, all right, well, you just don't work for me anymore. That was it was like this guy kind of rocks. Anybody that would say, hey, you know, that giant crack that we just heard? I think maybe we should look at the hole and see if it's still operable. He goes, you just don't have an explorer mentality. Yeah, yeah. He just fired. He just fired everyone who had who who thought of a little bit of health and safety. Yeah, you're not DTS. You're not down to sub. You're out of here. Also, the fact that he

named it the Titan and then went to the Titanic. And then they asked him on the CBS. By the way, here's here's how you know how badly things got fucked up with the Belichick CBS Sunday morning thing. Yes, they interviewed this guy on CBS Sunday morning and they asked like all the relevant questions about safety. And the was like yeah you know I do see some irony in the fact that we're taking it on a mission to see a ship that they said God himself could not sink and then it sank but I'm telling you this sub God himself actually couldn't see this one. Not only that the guy the CBS guy got on the sub. Yeah, he went down with him. Yeah, it's crazy. You're absolutely right the Jordan is actually yeah, she's

She's better than the Titanic. She's better than for sure way better than the Titanic right Hank way better way better than Okay, let's do who's back the week then we'll do our Mount Rushmore than we have an awesome interview with Trevor Lawrence Before we get to who's back the week. Game time. There's nothing like getting to a baseball game, especially last minute. Lucky for me, I always use game time. The official ticketing partner Barstool Sports game time makes getting tickets faster and easier price on the app actually go down the closer it gets to showtime. They even get exclusive zone deals.

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It's the official hard seltzer. Pardon my take. Get unruly with truly today. Okay. Henry, who's back of the week? I was back of the week is Derek Lewis. Oh yeah. UFC fight Saturday night I was on a bachelor party. So it was like, you know the last fight of the night big underdog Derek Lewis Most electric press conferences TKO to him in the first round big underdog and then uh, I mean We ended up watching all of his all of his greatest hits of postgame interviews

Like he's he's one of the funniest hot balls Yeah, but he was he had he was on the phone with Trump right away like right before Rogan interviewed him hits of postgame interviews like he's one of the funniest here. Hot balls. Yeah. But he was he had he was on the phone with Trump right away like right before Rogan interviewed him and then he got off. He said what Trump said he goes USA in this hope. Did he's electric. So funny. Yeah. So so you watched the whole UFC card. Yeah. How was the whole give us a whole recap. That's a party was good. I lost every every bet until that one horse racing is tough. You were in Saratoga Well, no horse racing with a horse. I'm talking about the UFC UFC card. Uh, I mean horse racing and UFC fight betting is pretty similar Yeah horse racing you just kind of hope. Yeah. Yeah, just hit it and hope. Yeah hit it and hope horse racing

I mean Saratoga's great. It's a party. It's a's a, it's a, it's a perfect place for a bachelor party. It feels very old school. Yes. Just go in tailgate, bring coolers, go in and out. Great time. It's a great place because it's Saratoga and Lexington are the two places you go when you know there's a horse a weekend because you'll like be in line for coffee and people will be talking about the races. It takes over the town. That's what I love about it. I feel like that's where old football coaches go when they retire too.

Oh yeah. I was like, I'm just going to go track every single day. Wait, so give us a recap of the UFC card. This is our UFC expert, Henry Lockwood. That was really, though, notable wise. I'm trying to go through my memories. There wasn't much else other than I was losing every fight, okay Okay, any other big knockouts any other big storylines? They kept showing the commercial for max all the way

Yeah, and I was like no that's next week fine, okay, I'm excited for that fight though, but y'all see you're hooked Who's he fighting? Covington, okay, Kobe Covington. No, who's the guy that was at a beer games? Pori a oh Doesn't worry is the man. Yeah, okay those max all the way so that so you're in for next week So will we have a recap on next Monday show? Yes Michael Chandler was the one who was at beer game. Yes. Got it. Oh Michael Chandler, but is he fighting Michael Chandler? Is he fighting Dustin? He's fighting poor. Yeah, he's writing poor. Yeah poor. He's also the man

Louisiana guy. Yep, is your recap next weekend gonna be just as good as this one Probably probably maybe maybe worse recap next weekend gonna be just as good as this one? Probably probably maybe maybe worse. Well, the big recap was you saw a commercial. No Derek Lewis was the recap. Derek Lewis was the recap. The recap was he gives great press conferences and I watched all the press conferences, which is yeah, that's that's a great recap.

Good job Hank. You are now I think Hank Henry Lockwood UFC expert would be a good golf guy. UFC. You're a niche sport guy. Because UFC fans are going to get so mad. Oh yeah. Well, golf guys get mad too. So it's perfect. We'll just get you in those. Maybe WNBA will throw WNBA in there. I don't know about that. Oh, you know, I got that one on lockdown. You have some takes on that No, I don't want to have takes on. Okay. All right. I don't I want I like my job Okay. All right PFT your who's back of the week. My who's back of the week is uno Yeah, yeah, uno is back the card game So apparently one casino in Vegas is going to be bringing uno to their card tables Yeah, so they're to have three different versions. They're going to have Uno Golf. They're going to have Uno Teams, where you play teams of two.

And then Uno Show Them No Mercy, which is a bunch of cards. And you win by getting rid of all your cards or by knocking all the other players off the table. But it's going to be a thing called Uno Social Clubs, which is going to be awesome, because I feel like there are going to be people that go to Vegas that have never played the standard table games that go to Uno and they just absolutely dominate. There are going to be some rookies that dominate. Here's my only question. And I can't say I've played Uno a lot recently, but is it one of

those games kind of like Monopoly where if you played by the actual rules, it would just take forever. It can't take a long time Yeah, I hate those because I got have you guys ever had that moment where you've had you've had to play Monopoly with someone Who actually plays by all the rules and it literally will never end It's not nearly as bad as right, but it's not like you take like days. Yeah No, no also, I think no I don't think uno can take longer than like 30 minutes Even if you play by all the rules It's it's still a manageable game. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we should do we should do a live stream of uno like the World Series of

Yeah, World Series of uno. Yeah, I bet people watch that that was my my who's back the week was World Series of Pokers I don't know if you guys saw but I don't understand the poker world But I do like anyone who's causing a ruckus. And this guy, William Cassiff, I believe is his name. The British guy, have you seen any of these clips? He essentially just, he got banned from all World Series of Poker events for the rest of the year. That rocks.

He finished 33rd. I think he won like $300,000. But there was like this big controversy of guys calling clock on him, and he was talking shit to people He got he also got a penalty for calling a guy a bitch. I'm in on that's cool, but this is a problem I from everything I've read and I'll this is kind of like Hanks UFC. I read maybe Eight to ten tweets So I'm pretty much an expert. I feel like the World Series of Poker is gonna do the

opposite thing that they should do. They should embrace this guy because these type of people and like the Phil Hellmuth, like the, or who is the guy? Matisau? Was that the guy who would, who'd yell at people? Hellmuth was annoying. Hellmuth was annoying. I think Mike, Mike the mouth, about Madison, whatever this old-school Poker talk but you need personalities you need people that are aggravating You don't need people who are robots who are playing by an algorithm and just going through it and he's British and at least he plays Hands, he just doesn't turn in all his hands. He he well, so this is the other thing he He didn't show up

He showed up an hour late the last two days and people were like, why would you do that? Cause he's just giving away big blinds. He's like, he's like, I wanted to get sleep. I had only slept two hours and he's like, I just got a better payout because I just gave, I gave a little donation and then when I showed up, I was like a few people were eliminated and I had a, I was higher up in the standings. So he's, he's a bad boy bad boy I like that he's a big time poker needs a bad boy yeah and he was arguing with I guess yeah you can call clock on someone mm-hmm and then if you get the clock called on you you get a strike and then if you get like a couple strikes the

clock then becomes ten seconds as you have a just time to make a decision I think that's crazy that's preposterous this one of those things where if one guy does it it's good to have a bad boy. But if everybody played by that same standard, then it would just completely suck. But there are, he is from everything I've read again, eight to 10 tweets, kind of an expert. He's the only one. Everyone else is a robot algorithm who plays the, the, the mincies. Yeah. They fold everything. They only play the hands that are like statistically guaranteed. It's not poker. I want to watch, I want to watch some swagger I want to watch some

bluffing I want to watch some table talk some shit talking I missed the world's who's a poker back in the day when they had the guy that just wore the reptile glasses moneymaker no that fossil fossil man yeah just rocked the reptile glass at the table yeah fossil man was awesome One of those guys moneymaker one of them did something. Well, no, maybe they didn't I Poke yeah, they might there either way. I think I stand with this guy because I saw enough positive Hey, he's not doing anything wrong. There's a couple negative, but I just ignored those Cassis. Yeah, is his name. I'm Cassie He's British guy say free Cassie. Yeah, he hadn't slept at all He was going him He even said that they're like haven't you slept like four hours in the last three days and like do you really think that?

you should be trying to make these arguments with the Casino staff and he's like, I'm listening me. I'm locked in as I could ever be just going a mile a minute I'm going to think he might have been having like a little bit of a breakdown, but that made it interesting I am NOT I'm going to boycott the rest of the world series of poker this year and all the satellite tournament And I would have watched every single second of it. Yeah, when is it over? Never is it still going on still? Yeah all of you. I let me see. Okay, well, so is a poker I'm implementing a self boycott. All right, hold on I'm gonna tell you how many people we got left because then they just sit there and they just

They fold and they fold and they fold and they fold All right, filibuster real quick while I find this. I wonder if Phil ivy's in is he still in does he play? No, he's out Oh, Ethan one man. Yeah. Yeah one month trial. Ethan outlasted him. That's nice. Yeah Payout calculator. This is their websites. Okay, no, this is part of my boycott. He bought the two BBs, Queen, Jack, King. Who? What? I don't know. I just enjoy, I don't follow poker at all, but I enjoy seeing when our people work there and they do these breakdowns of their hands, which make no sense to me.

He got rivered, sounds like he did. But it's very funny just hearing poker guys do poker talk. It's like, know I had a good hand but I got two BBs versus six and the Queen and River flushed me out. Oh Sounds like he caught the turn. Yeah, like that. Yeah, that was part of it. He got he lost on a bad hand I think I don't fucking I actually think that hearing people describe their poker beats might be more boring than hearing people describe their dreams Oh, yeah, what about but I what about so I can their dreams. Oh yeah. What about, what about someone- No reason I can't get enough of it. What about someone describing shot by shot their hole?

That's a pretty bad one. I love that stuff. Yeah? That's pretty bad. Unless you've played that course. Yep. Because then you get to be like- Then you can visualize it.

Yeah, no, yeah. Then you respond with, well, when I was on that hole, I remember that tree. I thought it was a great par. Yeah, I can't find it whatever It's still going on and it's gonna go on forever and it's never gonna end but free William Cassett. Sure. Yeah Zack your who's back of the week my who's back of the week is going to be counter-strike cases Specifically opening them. Yep After a couple of weeks ago Nate shot Tim Tatman Tapman went about 3,200 cases in a row without pulling a gold item.

So they decided, okay, what we'll do is, we'll just go for it. How much money is that? This is always, I love your who's backs because I tried to take in as much, but I already have a million follow-up questions, but keep going. From my understanding, from what you've said already,

it sounds like something happened to Tim the Tapman that made him look like a loser. So this is no loser activity, these are all big winner activities, well great activities, fun activities, good activities with the boys. So on a redemption arc, Nadeshot, Tim the Tap Man, OnyPixel, XQC, AeroCS3, Sparkles, and TDMH, Jesus. That's the sixth man who competed in it. I did freak I did mostly watch a nate shot stream, but they went CSGO case unboxings 59 $590,000 in cases they unboxed Okay, unprecedented territory is what we're approaching. What is it on bar? It's car. It's card breaking, but a video game

What do you mean? So you it's basically buying a pack of cards via inside inside of a game And I just called cases sounds like a lucrative hobby, and then what do you do when you get one? That's good. So the thing is there's a marketplace so in these cases you're looking for so there's different Different levels right so like white light blue blue purple pink red gold like on a scale Yeah, and then also there is a like where like the wear of the item comes into play so like Factory new or like heavily worn these are in the game. These are skins in game. Yes, but you get one That's not necessarily meant Yes, do you send it off to get graded or it tells you right?

It tells you there's a decimal point system or it tells you how heavily worn this item is Usually you want to go for the least worn want to go factory new But sometimes when they're really worn they start to change colors. It's a whole thing. It's it's a little vast Okay, when I said loser about Tim the tap man. I should probably phrase I liked him a lot, but he is it's very funny when he's doing something and then he gets sad I think it's kind of like people that watch us when our teams lose like watching the Dallas Cowboys and Tim the tap man lose A game. It's kind of funny Yeah, by the way, just as a quick break

Update two dozen players are left in the World Series of poker Okay, and that update came from Zack who has a mic in front of him, but texted me That was wrong call My computer just popped up said two dozen players and laughs and I had to think what are we to oh, yeah Well, she's broker. All right back to this but but on the Tim and type man note there He did pull the best item of the unboxing. He pulled a sticker worth $26,000 Wow, so this so alright dumb it down for me very famous streamer guys

unboxing cards inside of a game unboxing cards inside of a game Failed a lot lost a lot of money then got one awesome card big So they did end up losing quite a bit of money about 80% of the return But it was awesome just because it was the biggest case opening of all time and it was like it's more so about the journey Right. It's about watching the ebb and flow of the case openings

It was pretty sweet. Yeah, So how long was the case opening? This one I think went for like 10 or 11 hours. Wow, I believe so. And they're just doing it rapid fire is ripping cases. One guy goes about an hour another guy goes we're looking for golds we're looking for a case aka aka please. What's an aka? aka 47. Okay. What about the knife? I thought the knives are good to yes, if you pull a gold you get a gloves or knives nice little cram bit action There's quite a few knives I go and these it does sound I see where you're coming from But like these a lot of these skins can go for like hundreds of thousands if not like millions of dollars No, I'm not judging this I'm more trying to follow along and it is they are skins, but the video game card break

Yeah, even do you know what the the most valuable thing ever pulled out one of these packs was I don't know off top My head what it was but I do know is roughly around a 1.2 million dollars in my research earlier I am new to skins as well. I just enjoy watching the streams of the case openings got it and They broke their it's fictitious record, but it's the biggest case opening ever world record. Okay. Okay That so who's who's back? I would say Nate shots back cuz he went 3200 cases without Without getting any golds and then you got the lottery ball. Yeah. Oh got it people been people in the wild Listen, we need more people in the wild asking us about memes lottery ball cuz that was fun. It's kind of crazy There was a lot of people asking will he ever get it?

All right good who's back? What means? Did you? Did you appreciate that? means people care? Yeah. Appreciate it. Yeah. Don't get mad at it at all. Are you going to be taking their advice? I do. I do take some people's advice. Did anyone give you a number? No, no numbers. People DM me numbers. So what was their advice if they didn't give you a number? Just get it.

That's pretty good advice. Just pick the right number memes. That's really good advice. It's really not that hard. Yeah, mainly people just DM it. Just think what would Nadeshot do? He lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, is that correct? He lost several tens of thousands of dollars.

Tens of thousands of dollars, but the journey got him to the point where he got the sickest skin case. He didn't get the sickest. He was just there for the biggest unboxing. So he did. So Nate shot if we're doing the same it's just like Hank got it. He lost a bunch of money on the blackjack table but then you got to watch me win a bunch of money. Got it. Okay. Yeah. Which is probably fun. Yeah. That's a great feeling. feeling Yeah, that does that's what we use when you lose a lot and then you watch one of your friends win You're like, yeah sick. But again, that's that's his job though People are watching it hanging with the boys all with the boys. He did spin roughly around $95,000 and made back 9300. Okay, but he's with the boys. He's with the boys

When are you gonna start streaming? I don't have the I run to live dead air. I don't have the capability of constant You know, does that make sense is that talking? Yes. We got you going. Yeah, I think you're gonna start streaming I think there'll be good chat. I think we're gonna start you supportive chat I've been I've been telling him since he started on PMT that we got to get him straight We're gonna get you we're gonna play the Marvel rivals. You know what? Zack maybe we'll do is we'll we'll play some college football You could play with me and then you could see that it's really not hard to stream. I Appreciate the invitation. I think that could be fun. Yeah, can you get your feet wet? It's not it's fun

I mean the chats gonna be ruthless, but who cares? No, the chat will the channel fucking love. Yeah, but you know how it will happen. No, no, no, no No, it flips so quick max if lips. No, no, no, you know that you know that the chat is going to love you Zach, what are you talking? What are your top three video games all time? Probably a call of duty one or two call of duty Black ops 2 and then I'm gonna go a pandemic war zone with my three rounded out. Okay, which one of those would be best to stream Marvel rivals or so. Yeah Marvel rivals. I already have the rivals is already a thing Yeah, I want to get sharknado up all up in your ass. I also heard that means is great at college football as well Yeah, great at Call of Duty 2 and co I also heard that means is great at college football as well. Yes, great at call of duty too. Oh

Hanks in the cod tournaments. I heard yeah a couple of those Boys, you have a double kill. I played with optic. Yeah, fuck. Yeah All right. Should we do our Mount Rushmore? Let's let's do our Mount Rushmore. Okay before we get to Mount Rushmore This is an ad by better help workplace Stress is now one of the top causes of declining mental health with 61% of the global work force experiencing higher than normal levels of stress. To battle stress, most of us can't wave goodbye to work, but we can start small with a focus on wellness. So we've talked about it on this show.

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Steve Wozniacki? Oh, Kornacki? Yeah, he said that I said it was gonna be we were gonna hold that Yeah, but you guys kept trying you were way off in your prediction. No, I you're giving what and you started out You're like out percent. You're like, I said I think I know how these things typically play out you are That's right. Yes, because I said I was going to lose typically play out. You are. That's right. Yes, because I said I was going to lose. You sounded very arrogant, Max. I. How do I sound arrogant by saying that we were going to lose and then we lost? That is correct. What are you? What are you? What are you upset about? You diminish me and Hanks Mount Rushmore. I said that we were going to lose and we lost. You also talked a lot about our Mount Rushmore. No, I. No, I don't think. You are completely.

Jesus. Yeah, you guys. you are completely you guys you are Remember something that didn't have I know but I'm saying that our vote got a lot more votes than their oh So you got one point and we got one point. Yeah You're telling what You got I mean that was you going you Steve was Steve Wozniacki. Steve Wozniacki over here. But I was right! You were right. You were right.

Listen, this is contentious Mount Rushmore season. Alright, who goes first? I think we do. Steve Wozniacki and Krueger. We go first? We go first. I look like Steve Wozniacki. No, I don't.

That's very mean. Hank, a few seconds. Uh, you guys. Okay. Zach, what do we say? What do we say, Zach? My phone might might die though Zach? What do we say? Oh, no, don't break. So stay strong. Don't break nightmare nightmare for me and Henry a strong. Don't break All right worst place to be violently hungover and this we should preface this

You cannot drink at this place. Yeah, like a lot of these places Sometimes it's you might go there and if you can drink it's not as bad. This is under the, you know, guidelines of you're not allowed to drink if you're at this place. Okay. I didn't know those were guidelines but okay. But that makes sense, right? Cause like some, some places. Yeah. Well, yeah. Like people are gonna be, oh, if you just go there, just have a couple drinks. We took off some place. We, we made choices based on like if someone could say well you could drink there we will. We're not going to pick it. Well I don't like you can't pick a bar and not like it there. There has to be like it can't be the main reason of that

thing is drinking like. OK. All right. Yeah. OK. We're first right. This will go. This will go well. A long flight is our is our is our one one and to your point you cannot be drinking on this long flight, right? But that's not the point of no, that's you know Like well if you're hungover on a long flight just drink you can't you can't do that. Yeah, right Yeah, I was I was on a flight back from Hong Kong after I went over there with Donnie to go to the rugby world series sevens and I was coming down off MDMA and I got on a flight in Hong Kong and we flew all the way to New York nonstop. I did not get up to pee until we were on final approach. That's how that's how violently hungover and dehydrated I was and it was the worst experience

of my entire life. That's a good pick. One time I was super hung, and then I was running late to get to the plane So I got a burrito and a couple sodas and then there was like a journalist I was sitting next to me that was like documenting how hungover and disgusting I was the entire time sounds awesome That sounds yeah, no that was tough today Sounds awesome. That sounds yeah, no that was tough today Today I was in an uber to the airport and I farted I thought it was I I didn't realize how bad it smelled It smelled horrible, and it was a small uber, and I was like oh, sorry man turn the window down Cuz like it literally smelled so bad. He rolls the windows up. He's like no AC's on oh

And just sat there. I couldn't believe it. I could cannot stink. I could not believe it just sat there and ate it It was it was it was wild That's a wild move to pull a heat check on a fart inside of the car I also think it's a while if you're a passenger you should be able to do what you want with the window Oh with the window. Yes Not farting No, no, but I feel like if you're the passenger and you want the window down the guy should Be like okay. Yeah, you can yeah, I'd agree with that. I'd agree with that

Okay, I'm gonna go for one one pft. Okay funeral. Okay. I'm funeral is bad funerals funerals bad Okay, have you ever been violently hung over at a funeral? Yeah Okay. Not great. Didn't have funeral. Bad day. I yeah. Babs that why you can't. It would be a it would be a bad place to be hungover. I just can't say that I I can relate to that. But theoretically yes. Yeah for sure. Zach what do we want. I was I mean we've got but theoretically yes. Yeah for sure Zach what do we want? We I was I mean we gotta stay strong. Don't break. I Agree, uh, you got the list as well, right? Yeah, you're thinking like uh, I think so four or five or yeah or one I'll play well. Yeah. Yeah, let's go four or five. I will go easy Work just being hungover violently hungover at work is fucking brutal

There's just nothing worse when you're just like I have to sit here all day be violently hungover everyone kind of knows you are mm-hmm and It's it's any situation where you can't lay down and sleep. That's really what we're talking about and then This has never happened to us personally, but I think it would really really suck I think being violently hung over and waking up in jail would suck really bad. Yeah That was stuff on take yeah, I know that was just back there. Yeah would be very bad. It's not a fun time You You think ten or three? I thought you were going with you. I thought was you this was your Mount Rushmore

Wait, what was the first pick overall? On a cross-country flight like long flight. Yeah, okay, so Hank. I think we go with Maybe number two on our list you see that I thought it was Hanks Mount Rushmore. It's our Mount Rushmore Oh, but you said he had the ball. Yeah. Yeah, it's just teams go for this teamwork All right, we're gonna go with your girlfriend's parents house. Yeah. Yeah, good one. It can be girlfriend slash in-laws. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah the TV started to work just randomly. Yeah, now we're just watching a random commercial It's a pick. Yeah, you wake up. Maybe like you're there. You're in a childhood bedroom like a brother's room. Mm-hmm You're so terrified to go downstairs.

Yup, you're late. Sucks. You're late. They're already doing something. You just wanna, the last thing you wanna do is speak and have small talk with your girlfriend's parents. Yup, agreed, agreed. Good pick, good pick.

Our third pick is going to be, or second pick, our second pick will be school, if you're in college and you just have to go to class for some reason that next day. Terrible, terrible feeling. We had specifically taking a test. Yeah, something that you have to be there for and you can't skip it.

Yeah, I would be hung over for regular class, but a test would just kill me. Yeah, what are you laughing about? I'm laughing at one of PFT's answers. Which one? 15. 15 is a good one It's a really good one. Zach had a great one that I can't wait to share. It's not gonna make the cut Pick number three a child's birthday party. Mmm. Good one. You're picked just screaming. Okay

I would like to say that I actually I disagree with this But this is a personal thing a child's birthday party is actually not A bad place to be hung over because they have an activity to do It's a big deal like I'm telling like I'm just saying when you show up to a kid's birthday party now if it was your child's Birthday party that might be different, but personally when you when your kid has a birthday party It's a fucking savior because you just show up and they get to just play with their friends in a confined area And you can just sit there this might be a little bit different as like the the Unc like memes and I are both uncles got it

It's a little when you have your own kid I get that but like when you're going to like one of your nieces or nephews birthday parties, and you're not around Screaming kids all the time. Yeah, and then you have to be like, holy shit, this is child overload. I just hope personally when my kids have a birthday, it's like great Saturday's set because they're just gonna go play at this birthday party and I can just chill. I think the worst profession to go to work hung over at

would be a teacher, like an elementary school teacher. Yeah. That's when you wheel the TV out. That's when you're watching Magic School Bugs. Oh, big time, big time. Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill. Yeah, get ready to learn Bill Nye. All right, PFT, I'm going for it. Wheel the TV out that's what we're watching magic school both big time big time bill All right, I'm going for it uh Our third to our third pick right yep, we're gonna go with a workout class

Mm-hmm you signed up for it. Maybe you know your girlfriend signed you up for it. You went out the night before That's like a choice you still have to pay for you paid for a lot of time you paid for it already so you wake up you're like well I already committed to this yeah I'm just gonna go and sweat it out and then once it starts you want to die and sometimes what are you saying talking the mic memes no no no I'm thinking future pic okay and sometimes it might be like this is the start of me getting in the shape and you make that commitment the night before you're like you know what I'm gonna do it I'm gonna start working out and then you fall through the next day and you get into the shape and you make that commitment the night before. You're like, you know what? I'm going to do it. I'm going to start working out. And then you fall through the next day and you get into the class and everyone knows that you're hung over. Okay.

Your sweat smells like beer. Okay. Um, good pick. Uh, with some similar, uh, all right. So kind of Zach, I think I'm going to go with, I'm going to let you do the last one, but I'm going to go with the one that I think we, we workshopped this because we brought up kids birthday and I explained to Zach that like, take my kids to a birthday and being hungover is not a big deal because you just sit there. But what would be a big deal is Disney world with your kids. That would be hell on earth because then you actually actively have to parent and chase them around and worry about where they're being and stand in lines and eat gross food. Disney world with kids would be I actually don't think that there's I've never been to Disney world as a kid or an adult

But I think that I'm that might be the worst place in the world Yeah, I went once when I was I think five yeah And all I know about Disney world since then does make me seem like it would be a terrible place to be hungover Yeah, because you also have to pretend to be really excited and happy. Yeah, uh wait Zach should we go with eight? I just realized eight still there Well, you're not talking to them I think eight is good I also think ten is good and 13 as well, but no no no No, no no no no no no no no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Long car ride super long car ride fucking brutal. It's good pick. Yeah, I was gonna be doesn't similar to a long flight

Just sorry. Yeah, it's like it's slightly more comfortable than a little bit more comfortable But then you also have to deal with traffic which sucks that we like a delay Yeah, long car ride like dude. No car rides are way more comfortable than you know There's always a guest there's always a bathroom break on the plane those things are not always there We can stop you can never lose whenever this you can't get off you can't yourself Zack is sometimes you're in traffic. You can't just get out. No, you can always pull out in traffic That's just on bottom organ. It's like cars. That's unsafe. I've got pulling over What you can pull over?

Sometimes in the traffic jam, there's no pulling. Oh, don't don't say that you know that sometimes No, listen are you guys arguing that you can just pull over anywhere? in mostly easily easier to sleep on a plane if You're you can't go this is wrong. No wait. I unless you're driving Well, yeah, you could be driving hungover. Okay fair fair fair, but it's part of a long car drive Okay, there's been many times when I've been hungover and had like five hours to drive and like after you Weekend you are not allowed to make this pick you choose to drive over flying. Yeah, I love Hungover driving sucks. I do love driving. Yeah, I do. I appreciate you fighting for your pick

But I know you don't believe it. Zach more than anything. Okay. He's got to stand up from, no, I like, I like you guys. Well, I mean ours was also a one, one pick. This is a pick in the fourth round. Both of those things can be true. Good value. Could we ask Steve Kornacki was fourth round? Yeah, no, it was a great value. It was a good pick. Zach, I liked you trying to say that you can't get out of a car. That was good. In some circumstances, you're in. In the car, you've always got to wear the belt.

The plane, you can take it off. The plane, you literally can't get out of a car. You can also, wait a minute, you can also take the belt off in a car. No, but you might- When the light's on. You might be middle seat. Maybe they just stopped. I would have taken a different approach, Zach.

But I'm trying to- I know. I like it too. I like it too I like it yes I can't wait to tell you guys what 13 is I'm 50 I like our 13 I like our 8 and I like our 4 okay I like our 7 2 okay we'll go seven. Up to you. Balls in your hands. Balls in your hands. Hey Hank. All right, with our last pick, we're gonna go with at your own wedding. Hmm, had it on our list. Had it on our list. Tough hangover. Brutal hangover. But you can, you can remedy it because you're gonna start drinking again. But yes. Eventually, but you have to battle. It's supposed to be a great day. I do a lot of talking. Small talk with everyone.

Good chance that you pass out. It's's good pick. I'm addicted to watching the Compilations of people passing out away. They don't they don't bend their knees you lock up. Yeah, okay, Max our last pick will be a sports practice Okay This got me memes and I both college athletes you guys wouldn't really get this but I played fall ball play yeah It's like the worst feeling ever when like you Try to be like a normal college kid and then the very next morning you have to like go get screamed at run for it run

For days. Mm-hmm. I realize it was not gonna be a college athlete was that fall ball hungover. Yeah It's the worst feeling in the world. I have one story where I got super drunk in New York City, came back the next day, like I was so drunk that someone told me to get a job because I was trying to bum a cigarette off the street from someone in New York and they thought I was homeless. And then I went to practice the next day playing first base and I took a ball straight to the chest,

which is almost impossible to do when you're playing first base. Very hard to do. It didn't hit my glove and somehow went straight and just crushed me in the chest. Damn. My friends on my team will remember this right now. It was a tough day.

Shout out to boys. But it is, it's kind of like the workout class, but you have, there's 0% chance of skipping. You just can't skip a practice when you're an athlete do you guys want to know what their team was for that yeah I do laser tag anyway yeah no laser tags no it isn't no laser tag rocks laser time you guys played laser tag it's too long yeah we should do it I think we should be more. I feel like we should make a video playing laser tag.

They always suck. Let's go play laser tag this week. Paintball exists. Yeah, but then it's the competitiveness of paintball without having to worry about being hurt. My favorite part of laser tag is when they sit you in the, in the pre-briefing room and like the teenager paces back and forth and farting like a drill sergeant

telling you the rules. That's the absolute best. You will not run in the arena. The one that I was trying to work my head around that kind of is like too long to explain, but I think is a really, really bad one is when you are on vacation and you're hungover and you have a late flight, but you have to check out.

So you're basically homeless. You're like seven hours hungover, maybe even having to wheel your bag around like, Oh, we can go to this. We can go get lunch. And then you look at your clock. You're like, I still have five more hours before I have to be at the airport. That's a terrible place. We're going to just find a place to sit down and read for a little bit. Cause all you want to do when you're hungover is lay down. It's like you were given, you had a bed and you had to give it up. Sneaky. There are some vacation hangovers that, that would make this list. I think. So obviously if you're at a word, if you're at a base,

you can exercise vacation or yeah, if you have an activity on the like a hike, yeah, you're doing a hike or you're going to see a museum, whatever that would be. That's a bad hangover. All right. What else for honorable mentions? So I had, so opposite of the, the kid's birthday, kids birthday we dizzy world I feel like was stronger pick but Parenting with no set plans is a really bad hangover Like really bad where you don't have anything planned for your kids on a Saturday or Sunday and you're hungover

Mm-hmm that sucks because then you're just like what the fuck do we do? We had at the Super Bowl sitting in direct sunlight watching your team lose. Yes, that would be a bad hangover Yes, we had we had uh We'd getting pub stomped with your boys. Yeah, that'd be bad Hank Do you want to do want to say number 13 because I don't know what this means, but I love it behind enemy lines Imagine waking up hungover behind enemy lines that would suck. That would be horrible. I would suck. You're absolutely right like worst-case scenario Like you're hung over and like you wanted to just go home and you're not only can you not go home you're like

Kidnapped there's a war. Yeah. Yeah, you're a prisoner of war people trying to shoot at you Similar to the one you said about the Sun in your light in your eyes I think just being hung over like thousands of miles from home after watching your team lose a big game I've had that a few times in my life and it's fucking brutal We're like wake up and you're like now I gotta get home and it's the hangover, but it's also just thinking about the loss Yep, also being super hungover and going into a really big game also can tell yeah from experience Yeah, we also very bad We actually my buddy and I once it was like a combo because I we had to leave our hotel after the Rose Bowl

And we just walked to LAX like 15 miles because we're like we have nine hours to all till our flight And we just walked that's time. It's not a walk You should do we had in Hank's hotel room the morning of the Super Bowl with puke on your shirt We had you we were just memes I almost just did all of my bad Remember when you lost your phone. Yep, that was the same one. That was the same day I'm surprised court wasn't put out there. We had court would be bad We had DMV church

Yeah, I also thought Zack said gender reveal party. Yeah would suck Okay, yeah, you're gonna get some that's just like a party. Yeah, you're gonna get an adrenaline boost. Yeah contact sports contact sports Um, I thought about this just now But at like a doc like a like a physical and you have to explain to your doctor how much you drink in a week While you smell like booze that would help Yeah, we had at a really loud brunch. Yeah, so we thought of that. Yeah, but then we're like that's a drinking It's kind of a drink

But there's always somebody at the at the brunch that is violently hung over especially if it's like a big group trip And you it's always the worst experience for them. Yeah, we literally discussed that one We're like, but you'd have to be drinking. Mm-hmm. Uh, just outside on something sunny day with no sunglasses Yep, how about under where you are? What this one because I was thinking about this one I feel like it would be hell on earth But also you're like you kind of sign up for it outdoor music festival one that you like a Bonnaroo Yeah, where you sleep over but you then have to deal with porta potties like you're up at 6 a.m Yeah, you just gotta get drunk again again

dentist No, you done that almost puked. That's a good one on a boss on a boss Bus ride is pretty bad. Yeah moving Moving like you that's a you can plan better than that, but I have I have definitely moved hungover Mm-hmm, and it's bad. You're at the yard work on over hungover That one is not yard work is like kind of gives you a little fresh air But yeah, that would be bad depends on what type we're talking like bagging leaves like that's yeah

That kind of funny jump in the leaf pile trimming trees. I think mowing the lawn would be okay I was super hung over at my own graduation in college. Yeah, that was not that was not fun. That's everyone Yeah, just sitting listening the most boring person in the world talk. I didn't go to my college graduation I graduated in the winter and I told my parents there just wasn't a winter graduation Let's see late We did laser tag. Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving's a tough hanging over day. And that is one that everyone's hung over for. Like, having to be with family all day.

You just start drinking again, but it is kind of a tough one. I never understood why Wednesday was so much bigger overnight than that Friday. Yeah. That Friday seems like a much better idea. Yeah. In a random person's house, that's happened. Mm-hmm, sure.

Yep. You guys have had that? Yep. Oh yeah, girlfriend's roommate's bed. That was another one that you wanted us to pick. That's a good one. That was a tough one. I once slept in an abandoned frat house in Charleston, South Carolina on a bachelor party. That was not fun

It was so cold. I've never been more cold in my life. Did you have a blanket? No, it was abandoned. It's all around Yeah, I was sleeping like on the ground. So we just we couldn't get back. It was before ubers We couldn't get back to the house and we just like fuck it We'll just try to sleep here and then I woke up and I was shivering when I woke up That's very spooky. Yeah, it was not good. I'm not like proud of it Shout out the house. I don't even know what it was I Had a guitar on my list. Yeah, not a good place not a good place Escape room Zach said

Yeah, it's difficult. No, I actually think that's a great. Yeah, he's spinning That's a really good one any sort of team-building activity. Yeah. Yeah the hospital the hospital and could pick yeah Museum with kids museum just in general is terrible any place you have to stand shopping Shopping. Shopping. If you can other. Ugh. Terrible. Like an Ikea trip or like a Home Depot trip.

The container store. I don't understand the container store. Don't get it. Terrible. All right, I think we got a good list. Amusement park. Amusement park, yeah, that was our Disney world kind of. Yeah, the Gravitron specifically.

Steve. Steve Wozniacki. The gambling cave. Why do you? After two a throws an interception in Franksantown. Disney world kind of yeah the gravitron yeah, Steve Steve was neachy The gambling cave why do you after two with throws an interception in Franksantown? Oh? That's a really good one. That's relatable, too It is champagne problems being in the gambling cave hungover sometimes this can be hell yeah Mm-hmm. What about the US open in the gambling cave hungover sometimes can be hell. Yeah. What about the US Open in the gambling cave when you fall asleep for the most important holes? That wasn't even a hangover. Oh, really?

That was just a nap? That was just a healthy body. That was just you on your moodang shit? Yeah. You gotta get a solid A. Don't wake Hank up. He's moodang. All right, yeah, Steve. What do you got?

I don't know I'd have to see the graphic. I don't I don't have any strong opinions on this I also don't want to get into a habit of doing this after every Mount Rushmore But I like I like memes nice picks. Okay, all right But it's really soft Incredibly soft sounds like you don't have conviction No Well, I mean I had a a conviction. And then I was right. And you still got angry about it. So I'm not angry at all. I'm not mad. You were mad angry. You texted in the group

that was a scheduled text. I scheduled that text. For what reason? Just check in. I thought if something happened, the fillies and trade deadline. That was bullshit. Yeah, you were you were you're duped on that one But I mean that happens a lot in the chat of like when one of our teams like grass it makes a big move It's like hey Congrats Yeah, and I was I had no service where I was at so I couldn't like Twitter wasn't reloading But I was but I was still receiving text so it was a bad spot. It was a bad spot It was something so stupid like that. I don't give a fuck. It's a great way to fuck with your like that I don't give a fuck is a great way to fuck with your boys though. Yeah, that is no

That is a good way to fuck with your boy. Yeah, wait. What is this text? You sent us the Zed us never dead that was when that was that was the night that I was super fucked up And then I had to go to practice the next day That was the night that people thought I was homeless All right Let's let's do our interview with Trevor Lawrence. Really, really cool guy. Like he's the man. So great interview with Trevor Lawrence. And then on the other side of Trevor Lawrence, we'll finish the show. We're going to get Zach a date before we get to Trevor

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It's good to see you. Let's start with kind of easy question. How are you feeling health-wise? Because obviously last we saw you, that was fucked up, that hit. Are you feeling okay? Feeling good now. Yeah, I recovered.

Thankfully, you know, I'm out playing golf. This is a good sign. Less I had left shoulder surgery in December. So between that, then our daughter was born January 4th. So it was like back to back. It's crazy for the last few months, but feeling great now, shoulders all healed up, ready to go. Okay.

How does that affect a right-handed quarterback if they have a left shoulder injury? Cause we hear about it, like I think Baker had one a couple of years ago. Yeah. We were like, oh, it's just not his throwing arm. He'll be fine. He can go out there.

Well, it's like with getting hit for one, I mean, that's one obviously big part of it, but I think throwing to like, you use a lot of rotation in that left side, like you're straining and pulling that side through. So like I played against Houston when I got knocked out of that game, like I played and even that game, I had some, some plays where it's, I couldn't throw it out one or two, because I couldn't really like pull with my left side. So it's just all right arm. So it

does affect, I mean, obviously like minor stuff you can get away with and play and you're fine. Yeah. So feeling healthy, that's good. I feel like this is a big year for you. Do you feel that like, not pressure wise, but like, Hey, this is a year like from going in healthy. I feel like, you know, you got a new coach,

offensive minded. Do you feel that or is it just like same as same as every year? You try to treat them all the same. But I mean realistically like where I'm at in my career I'm going to year five, you know been an up-and-down So far the first four years for me and just our team and our situation I've had, you know This is my third head coach I've had a lot of turnover a lot of change, but I really feel good about the situation We're in I love coach Cohen and the whole staff and everyone that's in, all the guys that were brought in free agency, just good dudes,

good players too, but I really feel like we've done some great things this off season as far as just speaking offensively, like the changes we've made, the system we're running, I have a lot of confidence in. This system is, I mean, tried and true, the LA and, you know, Minnesota runs it now with O'Connell, all those teams and they're a lot of success with it.

So it's a great system for quarterbacks. And yeah, I mean, like where I'm at in my career, year five, like it's time to go and start winning consistently and be not just that team where it's like, you know, you're always like, no one really takes you seriously. You know, you want to be that team that's always competing for, you know, playoffs, Super Bowls,

and you're in the hunt. So that's, of course, that's, I mean, I see it, and you're in the, you're in the hunt. And so that's, of course that's, I mean, I see it through that lens of like, yeah, it's year five. And, you know, I feel like this is like getting into my prime. Like I got a lot of good years left ahead of me and I need to really turn it on. And I think what we've built around me and what they've done this off season

has been a great start. Yeah. You guys have some weapons, defensive back, Travis Hunter, wide receiver, Travis Hunter. He's our guy. He's our guy. I like the handshake that you got. did you guys talk to Travis I saw something no so we jet on him to win the Heisman at 40 to 1 in August and then we just talked about him on every show that's pretty awesome I was a great bet the point where our fans hated us for it but we won the bet that was a lot yeah

that's playing college actually I was looking it up I actually we've been doing this Heisman thing for a while where we're like, Oh, we have a pretty big voice. We're just going to bet on something and hope we can talk our way into it. I actually think that you might've been the start of it for me in 2020. You should have won the Heisman because I went back at me. I went back. I looked at my tweets and it's literally like every day I just like, Oh yeah, Trevor Lawrence is playing great. He should win the highs.

I played like nine games that year. We had the COVID year and I missed two. Yeah. So it was like, yeah, it was, Devontae had a great year though. But you were, you finished second place and you weren't too far behind. Yeah, no, that was a wild year.

Yeah. But yeah, no, Travis is a stud. I had your back there, so. Appreciate it. Yeah, I was all. So yeah, who gave him up the handshake between you and Travis? So it all started with,

we did an Adidas commercial together and it's a sneak peek. I don't know when that's going to come out, probably soon. And that was part of it. So it was like, it's a little bit manufactured, but yeah. He's good at that stuff. And I let him dance and do all that. That commercial was a little bit of that.

I'm like, all right, he's got it. So he's got a big personality. He's got a lot of expectations. I think they said he's a culture changer, but also a sport changer. Like he was going to change the future of football. Have you seen something out of him where you're like, man, this guy, this guy's transcendent.

Yeah. I mean, I think that's, and that's a, that's a, that's a lot to think about as far as player. Change the sport. But I will say just my interactions with him, I mean, he's unbelievable as far as like the condition and shape he's in. I mean, this guy can run all day, plays DB, plays receiver.

Like he'll run a post route or whatever and say, we'll miss it or I want to run a different, I'll run again, just come right back. And other guys, I mean, everyone I've played with is like, no one does that. It's not shade on anybody else. But it's like, no one's trying to run 50 yards full speed again, right when they just did it.

So it's stuff like that. He's a super hard worker, just a good guy. Like you can tell he's, he doesn't have a lot of like, you know, issues going on and stuff where it's like, he's distracted. Like he just seems very focused and like You know sticks to himself. He's great Is there any part of you that when you're like training camps coming up? Are you gonna try to pick on him as a DB so that they're like he's not ready as a DB and he's got to play

I said that so it's first day over at DB. I was like we're throwing every ball. Yeah He's he's pretty freaking good at corner to the yeah, he's he he's, I mean, it's like a guy like him, he could do whatever he wanted to do. I mean, it's going to be interesting. And then I felt like how much can you play both ways? I don't know. It's been done before, but it's been a while. So I mean, if there's a guy that can do it, he can do it,

but we'll see how that plays out. But yeah, definitely that first day I was like, I'm throwing every ball at you. So you don't, so you come back to offense. Yeah. So he, the, wait, no, go ahead. I forgot the question. I was gonna ask fuck. Okay, I got you I had a question. Hey, I got pulled up. God damn it No, I had it fucking they just escaped me. I'm such a fucking shithead

We talk about you know when I get it obviously we talk. I remembered. Okay, there we go I'll go after okay I feel like I got it in my head. I'll keep it. Trevor, who would you like to ask this next question? That was my next question. I feel like you got it. He's got it. Okay. He's up next. He's on deck. All right. So when we have a quarterback on the show, we say the things to them that we say on the show when they're not in front of us. All right. So we have our annual quarterbacks rankings list that we put together last week. All right, let's hear it.

Where do you think you should be? It's a tough question. Where do you know if I'm obviously I've only played eight games last year. Yep. I'm my best season. So you basing off last season. Yeah, right now. I mean, I think, I think I should be top 10 quarterback, but where I think you

guys have me at, do you want that answer? Yeah. I bet you guys have me at do you want that answer? Yeah, I bet you guys have me at 15 up 14 But close that's the good quarterbacks tier. Yeah, we listed you as a good quote. Okay. I appreciate that and we also did the below that Will change these rankings from game to game? Yeah, so like Jordan love. Yeah, sometimes he'll be great some Yeah, I can't imagine you spend too much time just thinking to yourself like what number of quarterback am I in the league? Yeah. I

usually look at all those and just think about those. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of, there's a lot of rankings out there. I'm sure. Yeah. It's great. All right. The question I forgot that now I remember it'd be banger. Uh, why didn't you guys give any space to your dad on draft night? You were squishing nuts so tight. That was insane. Dude, did you post something like this? Yeah, I posted it. I mean, you guys were-

What did you say? What was the- I said- You have it? I remember this and I was dying. It was, I mean, it was crazy. I said, can we get Trevor's dad a little nut space? Talk about squeaking down.

I mean, he was- Oh my gosh. That's, I feel like- I have no disrespect to your dad, but you guys basically made it like he doesn't have a penis or balls. The way you made him sit is well, I'm here so I can, I think it works. Yeah, that's true. Good point. But, uh,

dad's just such a nice guy. He wanted to use selfless. He wanted to give the couch away to, you know, me, Marissa, my mom is just, just a stud. It's insane. It is. That picture's crazy. Did you see it after and you're like, Oh yeah, he's hitting this one right here. He's also he's also sitting there and you can tell he's not comfortable No, you guys squeeze the hell So did you apologize after no I did I did I think I showed him that after him like he was just like shaking It's I didn't even say anything Yeah, I mean that is a player. That's a great dad selfless man. Yeah

He basically was like I'll just sit here and just, you just crunch my nuts. Sacrifice the nuts for the draft. Thank God you got picked first. Imagine if you would. Exactly. Imagine if you dropped to like the second round and he was just. That'd be tough.

Being castrated live on TV. All night, five hours. That's true. That is, at least you did that for him. He hasn't had any more kids since then. True. Might have stopped it. That's that actually is, that's a good point.

You do have it. I'll talk to him after this. Make sure he's all right. Hey, how are you shooting him these days, man? Check on him. Yeah. I just shoot. I agree.

You have a very cool brother, by the way. Yes. Your brother seems like, I don't know really anything about him besides the fact that he's an artist and he looks way cooler than me. And so whenever I see him, I'm like, that's a guy I could chill with.

Yeah. I always say, my brother is way cooler than me. So we're, I mean, we're very similar personalities, but just different interests. And so like you say, he's an artist, doesn't care about sports. Like he'll watch my stuff, but like, that's it. Like he probably didn't even watch the Super Bowl

or anything like that. He doesn't watch anything. So he's, it's cool having a brother like that. And we're super close, like best friends. But yeah, we talk the exact same, but he just looks completely different. Like when you were growing up, was there a moment where he was like,

I'm not into sports anymore? Because it is kind of crazy to have a NFL quarterback or starting NFL quarterback, and then a brother who is same size and he's an artist. Yeah, he was, so he's four and a half years older than me, and my parents knew, like, all my whole family's into sports, my dad, my mom, my uncles, all of them. So they're all into sports.

My brother, they got him into sports when he was young. And this is actually a great segue. There's some great stories about my brother and like going to the wrong dugout in baseball games as a kid, like playing in the dirt. I remember going to some of his like rec basketball games. He's sleeping on the bench. The coach is like, like, get off. He's just like waking up, you know, so it's crazy stuff. So then they eventually were like, all right, finish the season and then you're done.

Like you don't have to play anymore. So he does after, I don't know, maybe he was like nine or 10. He never, he didn't play sports anymore. Well, it's a credit to your parents because like to have two sons that are that different, that's really cool. It is, it is. And he's been very successful. Him and his wife do art together, which is cool. They work on all their pieces together.

So it's like for them to, I mean, that's a hard, it's hard to be a successful artist. So they've done, they've done a good job. So do you have any of his art in your house? I do have a few things. I have a huge, I wish I had a picture. I probably do on my phone, but like a huge Jaguar, tiger. It's like crossing through this like doorway,

like changing from a tiger. It's pretty sick. It matches like the office, like this dark green. It's sick. So he gave that, or him and Brooke gave that to us a few years ago, so. That's awesome. I got a tough question for you. All right. It's gonna be hard for you to probably explain it because we're just

regular guys. Dabo, can you explain them to us? I can try. Yeah, I can try. From the outside you understand he he's quirky but obviously he's a great coach. Win national titles like you you know you win a national title with him he wins other ones. What is it that like makes him tick and, and what, what is special about him? He is, first of all, I love the guy, like genuinely, like I'm not just saying that cause I played for him. Like he is awesome. And I say too,

like there's a lot of people, there's a ton of people that love him. There's a lot of people that don't like him just for whatever reason, but like what you see really is what you get with him. Like he doesn't put on a fake like personality. That's why sometimes like he'll say stuff in media. I remember when I was there and he'd say stuff in the media and people would kill him for it.

And he just like, doesn't care. He's just always honest and just his energy. You know, he's not like a, he's not an offensive coordinator. He wasn't a coordinator. He was a position coach straight to head coach. Went from receivers coach to interim head coach. That was his transition. So he wasn't, he's not like the biggest, he understands the game.

He's not a huge X's and O's guys, but he's like motivator, vision. Like our team meetings would be so long. But I mean, there's times where it's like, all right, this is long. But honestly, like he kept our attention. Great motivator. He would make you believe you could do anything.

Our team, we'd be like, dude, we're going to, it didn't matter who we're playing, we're going to kill these dudes. It could be a team that's better than us. I mean, that didn't happen much in our, we had some good teams at Clemson, but he was awesome. I still talk to him once a month. Yeah, I mean, and obviously, Clemson,

before Dabo gets there, they were good, but it was also the joke of like Clemson and, you know, always being good, but not great. And then he took it to another level. So it's clear. And he also, the thing that Dabo deserves a ton of credit for is he broke up. Like, he was the guy who won other than Nick Saban in that era. Like Nick Saban, dominated college football and Dabo was like, no, I got teams that can compete. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, no, I got teams that can compete. 100%. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like, I feel like with head coaches, it's always a balance of like, you have some head coaches that are just very cerebral. They just think football and they kind of miss that motivational leadership aspect of it. And then he is kind of like the opposite. And I think that there's, there has to be like a fusion. So if you're like that, he's done a great job with his staff. Like he's hired.

I loved all of our coaches at Clemson, like offensive coordinators, position coaches. Obviously we got great players. He's a great recruiter. Like you want to go play for him. It really is like, he sells the family atmosphere of Clemson and then you get there and it really is like that. It's a, it's a great place to go to school. Um, but man, he's, he's a stud. I love him. Yeah. Did you use the slide in the facility? I did. I got yelled at like every day. I got yelled at for going down the slide. So you went down it. Yeah.

Players only. Oh, and they were like, someone yelled at me. Like you're not supposed to do that. It's like, well, I'm already down here. It's probably a, it's probably like an insurance. It's my liability thing. Yeah. I just saw a slide and I went to break something and sue the suit. I just went for it. Yeah. That's awesome. That wasn't a players only slide. Like you didn't have a hard and I went. I break something and sue the, sue the. I just went for it. Yeah. That's awesome. That wasn't a player's only slide. Like you didn't have a hard and fast rule.

I mean, I think it's like people in the building, like player, I think coaches can, you know, like, but. Did you ever see coaches? Did you ever see coach? Oh yeah, he'd go down it. No, he wouldn't go down. He'd probably go down it just like for fun. Yeah.

Wee. Between meetings. He's also a great TikToker. Yeah. Hickory Dickory Doc. That's a classic. That is a classic. Hickory Dickory Doc. The mouse ran up the clock. Coach Sweeney's got that drip and now he's on TikToc. What was your reaction when you saw that? That's tough one. With the gloves on and the polo. Yeah. Hickory Dickory Doc. The mouse went up the clock. Coach Swinney got that drip, and now he's on TikTok.

But that's like actually him. Just like cringey stuff and you're just, and he has no shame. Yeah. I like that your answer is that like he doesn't hear the outside noise because I think guys like that, they can just stay themselves and they don't get changed by people, you know, being like, that's lame or for sure. Yeah. And it's like a, his belief is so strong and what he's doing, it's like, he's, that stuff doesn't affect them. But there's a lot of people where when things start getting tough,

like they kind of waver and go up and down and he's just always the same. Like he's always on 10, like it never changes. Yeah. Coaches going viral for being cringing on Tik TOK. That's way better than your coach going viral for, I don't know, like grabbing somebody's butt after a game. That would be awkward. That would be really awkward.

Hypothetically. It'd be hard to explain. Hypothetically. Yeah. Hypothetically. Yeah. It would be a tough, it'd be a tough team meeting for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know how you thought of that. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be weird. It's all hypothetical. I bet the group chats that you might be on would be kind of crazy waking up to those the more crazy rookie year for sure. Your new coach, Coach Cohen, who we had on had a lot of fun with him.

When you first met him, did you bring up the Duval thing? I feel like you got to do it just to be like, Hey, I'm going to say it once and then we can move on. So I met him before that. And I was there that day, but I to be like, hey, I'm going to say it once and then we can move on. So I, but I met him before that. Okay. And I was, I was there that day, but I missed, no, no, no. I was in there. I was in that press conference actually. Okay. So it was like, there was, there was a bunch of the,

there was like five or six of the guys that were in town that went and they all met them and talked to them. Then we went to the press conference and yeah, we, I honestly didn't give him too much. I didn't give him, I didn't give him too much heat on it because I know everybody else was. Yeah. I let him breathe a little bit on it,

but I think he's coached up on it. Did you guys, did he do one on? He did. Yeah, it improved. Yeah. Same one or the? No, it improved. We kind of talked him through it.

It was also the eyes, the eyes when he was. That's what I told him, it was the eyebrows, which was the weird. It's actually impressive that he can do that. I know. I know. I can't do it. Did somebody teach you how to say Duval? Yeah. It's like, I think when you get there, when you're drafted,

you got to do a big one on camera. Yeah. They still do it. I haven't seen the rookies do it this year. You gotta get them. There's been some funny ones. What's the trick to it? You got to go deep. Yeah. Do. Oh, yeah. That's good. That was good. Do you feel additional pressure carrying on the legacy of Blake Bortles? Good question. Blake is the man. He is the man. He is the man. He's the man around Jacksonville. Yeah. I've not met one person that doesn't like Blake. Yeah. He is.

He is the man. And I haven't unfortunately, I haven't hung out with him that much, but I see him from time to time, like golfing or at the beach or whatever. He's super cool. Brandon Linder. I don't know if you guys know that name. He was a center, but him and I played with Brandon Linder my rookie year, but they came in together, him and Blake and Linder's the man, but they're like best buds. So you tell me all about Blake and yeah, a bunch of, a bunch of funny and crazy stories, but dude, he's, he's awesome. Everyone, the boat. Yeah, he's the boat. That's what everybody knows him as.

Would you let us stay at your house without you being there? Yeah, I would. Oh, okay's what everybody knows him as. Would you let us stay at your house without you being there? Yeah, I would. Oh, OK, cool. You too? Yeah. Well, and our crew, yeah. Yeah. Because that's what Blake did for us.

Uh-huh. Did that for you? We went to his... Was that the beach? It was the beach. We went to his house. Jack's Beach? We texted.

We were like, hey, we're here. He's like, oh, shit, I forgot you guys were coming. Like, I'm out to dinner. Here's the code. Just let yourself in. I'll do that. Yeah, it was so... You were like, it wasn't like, oh, stay at, just let yourself in. I'll do that. Yeah, it was so long. You were like, it wasn't like,

I'll stay at my house for the week. No, we stayed for a night. Okay. But he was there. Put us up for a night, yeah. But he hung out with you guys? He came back. For sure, yeah, yeah.

No, definitely. That's just the type of guy Blake is. Yeah, no, that checks out. Yeah, I do. I love that interview with him with that girl on. Oh, he did? Yes. That's amazing.

Construction workers. Well, and then he retired from the NFL to build his own house. Yeah. Rip six and do construction. Friends with the construction workers. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. I got some buddies that play a pickup basketball with him like every week. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't made it out there yet, but I heard it's a great time. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I want to talk about the, uh, playoff game, the comeback, incredible game.

How did you not quit? Cause I would have quit. I would have been like, this is crazy down so much. This is pointless. I think, I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't quit. I mean, that's, yeah. Well, that's different from the NFL. Yeah. Yeah.

I wouldn't, wouldn't quit, but I mean, it was, it was looking, it was looking bad. I mean, it really was. I think that drive at the end of the first half, or I know that drive was huge. We went and scored right before half times. It was 27-0. And we had four turnovers, like through four picks,

every possession, finally scored. And we were like, all right, we did something right. And then, I mean, you got to think about too, like the defense, we gave up three points in the second half. So it's like, if we gave up a touchdown, we'd lose. So they had to lock. Yeah. So it's like, we did, we gave up a touchdown, we lose. So they, they had to lock into. So we, and then we scored every possession. Yeah. It was incredible.

Dude, I don't know. We, and we didn't even say much in the locker room. It was just like, we scored and was like, all right, it's one possession at a time. Like we got to just find a way to get back in it. Then we scored another time. We got to stop. And then now it's, you know, it's 27 14 or 34. I was like, that's not bad. Like now we're back in the game and we just to stop. But then now it's, you know, it's 27-14 or 30-14.

I was like, that's not bad. Like now we're back in the game and we just got hot. It was almost one of those things. I've been in the position too, when you're winning. It's like you're trying so hard to not lose. I think that's what LA did. So you're trying so hard to not lose the game. You lose the game.

You start calling the game differently. Yeah, like offensively, I don't know what they're doing on offense. I didn't watch all that stuff necessarily, but even defensively got like pretty conservative. Like the first half, they were just like crazy pressures, crazy funky stuff that they haven't done before. And they got us on a few things.

And then the second half, it's like, they were just like, all right, we're going to back up, we're going to play a lot of zone. We're just going to try to end there was just too much time. So. Yeah, like everyone, everyone in that defense looked like they were scared to make a mistake. Like they knew that you guys could do it.

And you knew that you could do it. Yeah. Once we, once we scored and made it 14, whatever 27 or 30, whatever it was, they were like, they weren't talking at all. Yeah. They were, they were, they were talking. Yeah. The pressure in the first half. Cause we were, they were killing us. And then we scored a couple of times and they're like saying nothing. The whole defense is just like, Oh God,

let's just not lose the game. Yeah. Hopefully the clock ticks faster right now. Our coworker, John Gruden, he came on here and he told us about Andrew Luck and how he had the best snap cadence that he'd ever heard. Did a great impression of it. And then we had Andrew Luck come on and he did it in person. He made me in big cat jump off sides.

But is that something that, that like you're going to the NFL, do you work on your snap cadence? I had to work on it because I did, I did a lot of clapping. Did you do the claps? Yeah, the clapping. Disgusting. That's pretty, pretty effective.

You know, it's sounds the exact same on one or two. Right. Yeah. But no, I, so I had to work. I had never, so I never called plays in the huddle besides goal line, like goal line, you get big personnel, you go in the center, hand it to Christian Wilkins or something like fullback, like that stuff, you could in the huddle besides goal line, like goal line, you get big personnel, you go in the center, hand it to Christian Wilkins or something like fullback, like that stuff you get in the huddle, call the play. But I never went under center or called a play

or did a cadence really until I got to the NFL. So all of that was like blew my mind. Like some of the play calls that are 20 words, like that was a huge adjustment. Was that the hardest change or was it, cause I mean, obviously everyone talks about the speed, but what was that the hardest jump from college to NFL? Probably, I mean, yeah, the, the, the speed,

all that stuff, like the margin frayer is a lot smaller. The guys just aren't as open. Like you're throwing to typically like, you're not throwing a wide open guys. Like that's just, that's a change. But I think, yeah, the mental, like, I guess what you have to do as a quarterback mentally is a lot different than college, like what I was asked to do.

So that was a big change, like even the run game, like changing stuff, knowing exactly what's going on in the run game, like changing the point, adjusting it, getting to like your second play run in two, but we never ran two plays in college. Like we would do the fake cadence and then look at the sideline,

like does the coach want to change the play? If not, you just run it, you know, like stuff like that. But then we signaled everything. But like having the two plays in one, adjustments in the run game, and then you change it to a play action or a pass, like all that stuff was a huge adjustment for me. Yeah.

Back to your overall health right now. I said that you're feeling good. We're feeling maybe as healthy as we felt in a long time. So back to your overall health right now, I said that you're feeling good. Have the Jacksonville Jaguars made the investment in an injury cart so that you don't have to walk two miles? Injury cart? Yeah. We felt bad for you at the time. We were watching on TV and we were like,

put this man on a cart. So I was kind of close to that one tunnel. I was close to one so I'm like, I'm going to walk up. It was a primetime game. So they had cameras in the tunnels. So that's where they got the money shot of me like limping down the, I didn't think there was any cameras in there. So they offered me a cart, I will say. But you're a tough guy. I mean, I shouldn't have been knowing that that,

like what turned of it, like I should have just gotten the cart. I was like, if I'm fine and I got carted off, like that's like something you don't want to do. That's the worst. Yeah, that's true. It's like that, who did that? Was it?

Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce. Yeah. That's like- Oh, he pooped himself. Yeah. He did. Yeah, it's like if you get carted off, then you come back.

I had a guy in college, he'd cart it off, gives the thumbs up, like, I'm all right, guys. Then he comes back out like a series later. It's like, dude, try to avoid that. If I was in the NFL very first play, I would get stretchered off. And then I'd be like, oh, I'm actually not hurt. I'm hurt, but I'm not like injured.

Okay, I'll try again. I just do that every play. Yeah, do it every game. Everyone thinks you're done. Then you just come right back. Yeah, off and on. Yeah, our friend, Trill Weathers always, I always think about his funny tweet where he's like,

if he got injured He would he wouldn't do the thumbs up. He'd do the thumbs down Yeah, I'm getting carded. Oh, I'm breaks their leg Like it's not good. It's the best one like obviously sucks when injuries happen But when one of the like the chain gang gets hurt rolled up on and they oh, yeah They give the thumbs up and it's like alright cool worried rolled up on and they give the thumbs up and it's like, all right, cool. We're worried. This prior guy right behind you, that's good. That could do it.

Yeah, right. Exactly. Next. No, those guys, I feel bad for some of those guys that roll or like a camera, someone that's hammer guys. Yeah. Gets blasted. Yeah.

Cause they're just doing their job and then they, they like lose focus or they're focused on the play. And then boom, I ran over a trainer in college, a student trainer. Like I got pushed out of bounds. So I did like the stumble where I stayed up and just full speed hit her. She had a concussion. She's out like two weeks.

Oh my God. So she did not give the thumbs up. Yeah. Yeah. Thumbs down that. Yeah. Security guards that are facing away from the play. Like they're looking at the stands. Yeah. They always get like the legs taken out. Oh my gosh. So it was in the end zone.

Go on the back of the end zone. Oh yeah. Speaking of your stadium, do you ever just like look up at the pool and be like, what's going on there? Yeah, the pools are funny. You get like a, sometimes people's, you know when you're in the water

and their legs look crazy. You'll see that. I've seen that in games. It's wild. It's cause they're wearing jeans. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes with jeans. Yeah.

Those pools, I mean, I'm sure they do a great job cleaning them, but I don't know if I trust them. We've been in them. Yeah. But in Jacksonville. Yeah. How is it? It was great. Awesome. Doug Marrone was a lifeguard. Yeah. Doug Marrone got in it with us. So this was, it wasn't like it was off. It was off season. Yeah. But we got in the pool. That's all jeans. I think they're, I think they're keeping them with the new build. Good. That would've got to,

it's so unique. like you gotta keep it. It's our thing. You have to have it. Do you enjoy playing in London? I do. I've gotten used to it. I mean, I've gone four times now, and in the last two years,

we've played two games in a row there. Yeah. So I kind of enjoy it. I mean, now, like I have a six month old daughter, so that's a little different, like being away from home. You know, before it'd be like, Marissa would sometimes come out. So it's great, like, you know, maybe see her once.

So then being in London is great. You get a cooler weather. We stay at a sick place. It's called the Grove out like in the country. It's a great hotel. So we have a good setup and we've kind of gotten used to it. But I think guys with like families, like it's tougher being away from home.

But we only got the one game this year. We play LA out there. Okay. What's the sleep schedule like when you're out there? That's how we base our bets. It's like if a team leaves early in the week, then we're like, okay, they're going to be adjusted. So we always leave late.

Huh. And we usually play pretty well out there. Yeah. Which is interesting. But we always leave Thursday night and land Friday morning. So, I mean, yeah, I feel like that's that, like for most of the teams, it's either you got to leave

like Sunday night right after the game or like you guys do it. It's the middle teams that like get all kind of fucked up. Yeah, there's like two thoughts. So we're going this year, new staff with Liam and the whole crew, like we're going on Monday night. Okay. So we're going to get there earlier.

So I don't know, I haven't done that before. I don't think that's bad to get adjusted either. Cause you are, you're pretty tired. Like Friday you get in, you do like a walkthrough and guys did barely slept on the plane and you're just trying to catch up. Saturday you get the day off and then you play Sunday and then you come home.

So it's a quick turnaround, but there's some arguments like, you know, can you really get adjusted in time? Even if you go early, like I don't know. I don't really know the science behind it, but. Yeah. Going back to the playoff win against the Chargers, the next week, were you aware that you were undefeated on Saturdays going into that game?

I'd heard, yeah, I'd heard that. In your career. I didn't know until it's like, oh my God. In your entire career. Yeah, 36 and 0. Pretty crazy. Insane. That's an insane stat.

Yeah, I wish that would have held up. Yeah. That would have been fun. Yeah. I wish that would have held up. Yeah. That would have been fun. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. It's a dumb question, but do you think maybe you didn't lose enough? On Saturdays, especially?

Well, just, yeah. Yeah. I know that sometimes if a guy, like, they don't lose at all and then they get to the NFL, they're like, oh shit, you lose all the time in the NFL because everyone's really good. Yeah. I don't, I mean, I think it's definitely an adjustment. You're so used to winning.

So it can be frustrating. You know, you're not, you kind of have a, I don't want to say, you have a different perspective on, I guess how hard it is to win when you've only won. Like in high school, we won a lot. In college, we won a lot. And then the margin is so small in the NFL. And then it's a 17 game season.

So it's like, when was the last undefeated team? The Dolphins and? Yeah, 72. 72, yeah, it's like, when was the last undefeated team? The Dolphins in 72. Yeah, I mean, that's the last undefeated team. So it doesn't happen really. So being able to flush it and like play well the next week, I feel like I kind of, I got a good dose of that my rookie year, trying to bounce back and like,

cause we went what three and 14. So that definitely got me adjusted. But I still like, you want to have the mindset like you're going to win every game. So it's a fine line, but then after that is over, you got to flush it, win or loss. So it's a good point. I mean, I think there's something too though,

like you want to be, like you want to have guys that have won though. And like you want to have that culture of guys that are, like you don't also want a bunch of guys that have only lost. Like, you know, you want to build your team around guys that have won though. And like you want to have that culture of guys that are, like, you don't also want a bunch of guys that have only lost. Like, you know, you want to build your team around guys that have won. So I think there's two sides to it.

Yeah. You just have to be able to like figure out how to flush it. Like do you flush it before you get home? Or does it take you like, you have to go to sleep? It takes me. Yeah. I have to like, I have to watch it. Like I have to watch it when I get home.

I know a lot of guys- You watch it it that night? Yeah, usually it's up. If it's up, I won't take a long time, but I'll take 20 minutes and I'll just flick through it. Cause there's certain plays where I'm like, this one, what happened on this one? Cause you can't see on the sideline, it's just pictures.

It's like pre-snap, middle of the play, and then maybe the very end. So it's hard to piece together everything, but I have to see like what went wrong or this decision I made, like what did I, what happened here? I saw, I thought I saw this, but it was something else. Like that helps me sleep when I can do that

and see it and be like, all right, might've played terrible, but like I can at least flush and move on. Yeah, does it ever get clogged when you're trying to flush it? You wake up the next morning, you're like, shit. Sometimes, it was a tough one. It was a tough game, yeah.

Sometimes it goes into Monday, really we'll like like watch it was we'll have some meetings Monday Then you'll really you can't flush it completely can't flush it too hard, right? I gotta go watch it again, right? You're doing you're doing it You're just doing like the the flush because you like you know this like if you have a really bad launch like, you know This is a big big one. Yeah, I do one one flush and then another flush later. You do the pee flush. Yeah. It's like the small flush.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right. It's like the small button and then you do the big button on Monday. Yeah. You want to still be able to smell it, right? Yeah. A little reminder. You want to linger in it a little bit.

I clogged my hotel room toilet last night and there's no plunger, so I had to put my hand in a plastic bag. Oh. I don't know why you shared that. Why didn't you call the friend dad? I don't know why I shared that. Sometimes you get-

I shouldn't have shared that. I should not have shared that. Do you flush Wednesday? I put my hand in a bag and then I just. That's a good question. Flushed that. That's disgusting. Well I mean it was it was just toilet paper guys. I'd already flush like four times. Oh okay. Yeah. So you're courtesy flush for yourself? I mean I have to. It's not courtesy. It's like mandatory. Are you Oh, yeah, my wife isn't here yet. So yeah Yeah, no, I would have done that. I would have done that. I would have gone to the lobby That's what I do when we when you share an airport or when you share a hotel room really just name another Yeah, you gotta go to the lobby. You can't fuck with your wife

You still go to the lobby to sometimes when you know, it's bad. You got it. That's you're good There's some shit that he's lucky to have you listen when you're in a hotel room There are times when you take a dump and it will stay like linger for they do seem like they stay more in Yeah, i'll come back like two hours later be like who took oh that was me Who shit in my toilet in my room when I was gone. Yeah. All right. I shouldn't have shared that whatever. That's fine That was good. Uh, what do you think about urban meyer? Perfect that's a good reason. Yeah, that's good. That's great. That's great. Perfect. That's a good thing.

Yeah, that's good. Just flush that. I do have a question about your nickname. We've got to fix your nickname. The prince that was promised. That's too long. It was, so what, why is that my nickname? I don't know.

It's on Pro Football Reference. Yeah. Okay. No one calls me that. I've never, to my face, I've never heard that. Yeah, that would be very weird. Yeah. So it's like, oh, there comes a prince that was promised.

Yeah, it doesn't flow. It doesn't flow. Yeah. T-Law works. Yeah, that would be very weird. Yeah, so it's like oh there comes a prince who's promised Yeah, it doesn't flow. Yeah, T law works. That's a good one. Yeah Yeah, Lawrence of Everglade. Oh Everglade are you kind of close? They're not really close to the Everglades Florida's big state on it big state I really should have fucking said that thing about the toilet. No, it's fine This is a free space, but do you flush the winds too? Do you get home and you're like I got I's a free space. But do you flush the winds too? Do you get home and you're like,

I got to get rid of the bad plays from the winds? Yeah, I'll watch the winds too. I'll watch the winds too. Will you be like, whoa, that was a sick throw? It's nice to see the good plays for sure. I mean, I'm not going to lie. It's fun to watch. It's more fun than the bad ones.

But you got to watch them all. But it's twisted. You want to, like my brain is weird. Like you want to, I almost want to see the bad ones more. Yeah. You see the good ones, you're not gonna get sick, but it's like, you got to see the bad ones. Like those are the ones.

If I don't watch those, like that's, I could skip the good ones and be fine. But if I don't see the bad ones, it'll like, it'll linger. Yeah. You have a sickest throw? Sickest throw. Yeah. That's a good question.

Good question. And good question. Thank you. We can come back to it. We can circle back. I'm trying to think. You might've flushed it. Flushed it, it's gone.

Well, let's come back to it. Okay. Okay. You can just answer yes to this question because then you'll look cool. If you had beaten LSU the national championship, would you have let us interview you the next morning drunk? You guys did one with Joe? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good. Good answer. We were at that game. Yeah. It was, yeah, LSU was insane. I would, I probably would have done an interview with you

guys. Okay. Love that. You guys don't like to interview the guys that lost though. They typically don't want to. They don't really want to get in. Oh yeah. I wouldn't know wouldn't have done it. Yeah, would you want to talk to us? Like if you're that was brutal? No, I lost your life. I wouldn't talk to you guys So that one I will let's go through in though Yeah, yeah the positive when you guys kick the shit out of Alabama that had to feel awesome. That was I was no doubter That was fun, man and going into the game. It's like, hey, this is Alabama, they don't lose these games. That was supposed to be, I mean, that team was stacked. Yeah.

It was Tua, Demonte Smith, Judy, Henry Ruggs, Irv Smith, Josh Jacobs, Najee Harris. Defense, they had some ballers on defense too. I mean, Quinnen Williams, they had a ton of guys, but that was supposed to be like the, one of the best teams ever. So we felt like coach Sweeney and other thing come back to him that he was great at.

He always made us feel like the underdog, no matter what. It's like we hadn't lost all season and it seemed like no one, he made us think that everyone thinks that we suck. So we're like, all right, we're going to show, we're going to show all these people, you know, it's like we could be playing, you know, Georgia Southern, like early in the season, it'd be the same thing. Like these guys don't think they can beat you.

So in that game, was there a moment when, cause you won 44-16, I believe, was there a moment where you're like, this is over. And we got this because it did feel like a coronation at the end. Towards the end. I mean, probably not until we, I'd have to go back at how the whole game went,

but not towards the end, because they were really good. And they had a couple, they had a couple like huge touchdown plays. Like we went up, we had to pick six early to put us up seven nothing. And then they went down through like a bomb to, I think it was Judy, honestly, I can't remember who, like a a 60-yard touchdown so it's like they were a little bit back and

forth early so like we're gonna have to score a lot to run away from but yeah towards the middle of beginning middle of fourth quarter we were we were a good spot yes got me great feeling started doing some QB runs just to like rub it in a little bit it was awesome yeah great would he make you feel like you're playing against Wake Forest you'd be like no one thinks that you guys compete these guys yeah I mean not that exact line, but yeah, basically. I mean, that type of thought. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I don't know if anyone's ever told you this, but we uncovered a deep stat in the NFL.

Goes back throughout the entire history of the league. Yeah. OK. Go on. Listen to this. Long haired quarterbacks have never won a Super Bowl. Really? Yeah. Never. What's the longest haired quarterback that's won a Super Bowl? It might be Joe Namath and he was like Shaggy. Was was Roethlisberger had a half long? It wasn't it.

It wasn't a long year. Yeah. Tom? No, no, no. He always lost. Tom? When he lost. Yeah.

Long haired quarterbacks never won the big one. What is this? What are you going to right now mentally? Let's talk about it. I'll be right back. That's a that's a that's a crazy stat. Yeah. So you could look at it one way or the other. You could be like, Hey, I'm going to be the first to break the mold or cut your hair. And then you went to Superbowl. That's the answer. I don't know.

Statistically. Yeah. Would you cut your hair? I would. I don't know when though. Like Marissa likes me with long hair. I had a buzz cut in eighth grade till like middle of ninth grade. She wasn't a big fan of that. So she's like, you need to keep it. I'm like, so I'm not that attached to it.

I would cut it, but I'm like, you know, she wants to keep long hair. I'll keep long hair. So I do. I mean, now I'm used to it. I don't have, I've had the same haircut since I was in 10th grade. Yeah, so I'm definitely more comfortable with it It would be nice that as a man with long hair to see finally somebody who looks like me when a super Representation matter all the long haired guys on my back exactly Yeah

Would you cut your hair if you want a Super Bowl? Locks of love donate to the kids. Super Bowl winning court hair would be pretty sick. I would match. I would say yes to that, locks of love. Oh, you're gonna match? I'll match. You'll match?

If you do it, I'll match. We gotta do it together. And we have to. I'll do it. Max is doing it, Max just matched as well. Wow. Holy shit. Just matched?

Think how many little kids out there. Since the Super Bowl, we all cut our hair. All three of you. Yeah. How long have you been growing your hair out? Since senior, like senior of college, so six years. I'm like 13 years, 12 years. This is serious.

You guys get cuts though? Yeah, I get trimmed up. I don't want to do it. I'm only doing this if you do it just because I needed to say I wanted the match, to be honest. Yeah, no, That's great. Kyle, you guys put me on a small note. Well, you could say no, and then we just shame you for not donating your head to kids.

I'm going to... Let's circle back to this. I'm interested. This is all you winning a Super Bowl. I'm interested. Yeah. I love it. I would be thrilled to cut my hair.

I think you got to say yes right now. You know what I like though? I like that the reason why you're so hesitant is because you truly believe that you will win a Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah, you're considering. Yeah. Like if you were to ask me that, I'd say, fuck yeah.

Yeah, if I'm, yeah, whatever. Yeah, it's like, that's not a good answer. Yeah. Yeah. All right, I mean, I think, I think we got to start back. I think you got to do it though. Think about it. We're just over, we're circling back to the.

Okay. Okay, think about this. Finally, all your look-alikes will stop being women Yeah, there's one day as you guys seen one of them. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that was crazy Yeah, and it's like just like enough to piss me off Like she doesn't look like me. Yeah, I'm like damn Yeah, but she was she was at like every game. And it was a little weird, I'm like, all right,

can you stop, like we're getting off the bus for the game, trying to get ready. And I've seen you like 10 times, like dude, it was tough. I don't know if that's worse for me or her, honestly. Yeah. If your wife, girlfriend at the time, was she like jealous of her? Or was she like, that's weird? What do she like jealous of her or was she like that's weird

What do you mean jealous of her? Like I don't know cuz she's like I would assume that if There's a girl that likes you so much. She's dedicating her life to dressing up like you Probably likes you a little bit too much. No, I think she definitely wasn't jealous. She was deaf. She was more like that's just weird Yeah, especially after the first time it's like all right get it first Get it. First time I met her, I got getting off the bus literally before home game. She's there, Jersey, headband. And I'd already heard about her. I'd been prepped.

I'm like, all right, take a picture. Like we do look similar. Thought that was the end of it. No, she came back a lot. Yeah. And so it was, Bruce was like, all right, it's kind of weird. That's fair.

I'd say so. Yeah. Yeah, it's a pricey bit when you have long hair. It's like, it's probably, you're a little bit taller than maybe like a couple inches. But sometimes people see the back of your head and you're sitting down at dinner and the waitress comes up and they go, excuse me, ma'am.

Exactly, that happened to me in Jacksonville. And it was, we had just sat down to eat lunch somewhere and she comes up to the table and was like, ma'am, would you like anything? I like turn around. She's like, just runs off. Yeah. Runs off.

Who were you with? Marissa. Okay. Why? Because that's good because he it's happened a couple of times to him when he's with us. Yeah. It's bad. That's not bad.

We just, that's like worst case scenario. This ball, these guys forget about it so fast. Yeah. They probably never bring it up. Well, if you're, if you're with the steakhouse in Vegas, it was his Brazilian steak fast. Yeah. They probably never bring it up. Yeah. Well, if you're, if you're with steak houses, it was, it was Brazilian steak house. Yeah. And if you're at a table and it's like three girls and you, and then the waitress comes up and she goes, Hey ladies, that's a bad situation too.

That's happened to me once or twice. Yeah. No, it's happened to me a few times. Yeah. I was just going to say that's, that's the most embarrassing moment for that waitress ever. Cause not only did they screw up a man or a woman, but it's also, it has. I was just going to say that's the most embarrassing moment for that waitress ever, because not only did they screw up a man or a woman, but it's also, it's Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville. Yeah. Yeah, when it turned around, she wasn't happy with herself,

but I thought it was funny. Like that stuff doesn't bother me, but I did feel, honestly, I felt bad for her, even though I guess I was the one that was, I don't want to say insulted, but I felt more bad for her because it was so awkward. Right. So then she comes back like five minutes later

and it's just, didn't really address it. It was kind of. All right, well, Trevor, this has been awesome. I got one last question for you. Row back question, r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take, 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, Polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. How bad was it that I shared that toilet thing?

I thought it was great. I thought it was one of the best parts of the interview. Okay. All right. My real last question is, are you aware of the lore of the kid who got his head stuck in the Jaguar statue? Yeah. Because I'm, yes. Okay. Because we interviewed him. What year was that? That was in 90, was it like 90 or early 2000ss we interviewed him last year. It was like early enough to where no one had tried it yet. And everyone knows that you can't, that's going to get stuck. Yeah. So yeah, I know about it because our security guy, Skip Richardson, he's the man he's off.

Shout Skip. He's been there since the team started. He pulled his head out of it. Oh, he was the one who did it. He has a, he has an article in his office about it. That's amazing. 1997. 1997. Yeah. I was two years in. Yeah. So yeah. And we incredible. Yeah. We, we met him last year on grit week. He like just came up to us at a bar. He's like, you'll never believe who I am. I was like, what? Like you can't, I'm

not going to be shocked by this. He's like, I'm the kid who got his head stuck. And then we verified it and we're like, what the fuck? How old is he now? He's like 30 and he was awesome and we and we interviewed him so what max he's How was he that math didn't add up so he was he was definitely older than whatever whatever I have to talk about whatever He is 35. He's 35. No He was older than two when he got his head stuff. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I'll be like he's probably like 30 I was probably 35 We didn't need I didn't need to say that oh, that's okay Yeah, yeah, you're right. He's probably like 30. He's probably 35. 35. 35. I didn't need to say that.

Oh, that's okay. That was actually the worst part of the interview, not me talking about the toilet. If he was two, his head probably wouldn't have got stuck. Yeah. But yeah, he's got to be part of the, when you guys win the Super Bowl, you got to shave your head,

and then he's got to be on the parade flow. I love that. And you also have to come on part of my take to morning after, because you already said that you do it after the national championship. If you do it, unless you're all right. Okay. Deal. Superbowl is better than the national championship. So all right. Do it. Yes. I agree. That's all right. All right. I'm in. Trevor, this has been awesome, man. Thank you guys for having me. Been too long. Yeah, I know. We were trying to, we've been trying to do this for a few years. You're the man and

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Yeah, tough look for her husband. But then we had a new admirer of Zach who posted a video, essentially being like, I want to take Zach out on a date. And this woman is extremely hot. I thought for a second, Zach, that it was Jessica Chastain and I was going to fight you because she, I love her. And I was like, what the fuck Zach, what are we going to do? Uh, yes, there was a kind woman named Rachel who, uh, made a video saying that

she would be open to possibly going on a date with me. Uh, I believe the course of action may be, uh, message Rachel back and see, Who made a video saying that she would be open to possibly going on a date with me? I believe the course of action may be message Rachel back and see You know when in the near future relative near future Schedules permitting when she would be open to going on a date. So we're gonna do a date I think we we we may be going on a date here soon. Fuck. Yeah. All right She's a pilates instructor. That is correct. She does Pilates the workout classes. Yeah, she's very attractive. Can we say that we're allowed to say that

I think she looks like a lovely young woman. She looks like she's driven. She's ambitious and most importantly She's got great taste in dudes. Mm-hmm. She's hot in the most respectful way possible. Yes, Rachel's a very good-looking woman But she looks like she's a great head on her shoulders. We're teaching these Pilates classes Very kind when she speaks uh great head on great shoulders too now i yes yeah out to Rachel yeah exactly you also so you're not nervous uh although you did tell me that the last date you were on actually the girl cancelled it right it wasn't like a cancellation it was like i thought i had went on a date this one time and then later on in life I was like, yeah date went terrible didn't I apologize for that day going so poorly when we've on this next date It might go better and she was just like oh you thought that was a date

Oh, that was my only confirmed day. She retroactively canceled the day. Yeah Yeah, try to strike it from the record. Where'd you go? Where'd you go? What did she say that it was? So we just went and got drinks. That's a date. Fuck this shit for saying that that's not a date. This date stands. She's super cool, super kind.

Shout out to her. But I thought it was a date too and she was like, oh you thought that was a date? And I did. That was my only confirmed date and then that has been struck in from the record. No, no, no. We're putting it back on the record. It was just the two of you? Was 1v1 drinks.

Yes. It was a solo match. Cross her up. We went 1v1 drinks. All right, so Zach, I think part of this is like you are very funny and and by the way best eyes on the podcast great eyes I'm gonna say it right now If you have striking if you don't have if you haven't gotten a look of Zach's eyes like close up Baby blue Caribbean blue eyes

Incredible eyes appreciate you saying that big cat. Yes, I got you But she this girl Asked you out on a date. She already likes the vibe of Zach. You just have to be you. And you're going to, if you'd be you, I'm not going to get graphic, but just be you. The day could go well. We could have a good time. Maybe like maybe go second date.

I think that's a good goal. But we got to get, we got to go date one first. What did I tell you? You're only have one, you're going to only have one decision to make on this date And she could have already backpedaled and been like I don't want to go on a date anymore. No, you know, that's Don't put that out there Zach. She's she's into you. So you got to figure out what would be a good first date? I'm thinking We we could run we could run drinks if she's in open to that maybe like this kind of video game

Yeah, they run duos on cod That's it. I don't know how that would go. I only have one controller I think we get drinks what about laser tag? Let's start with drinks. I'm sorry. I like that. I like that. Just happy hour a few drinks not nothing crazy Maybe just one drink. We'll start with one drink. Yeah, if it's good, then you go to right well Oh that okay. Yeah, yeah, well two drinks total. I thought you were gonna say like each date You just add one drink. No. No, I'm saying like I'd be funny Marry this chick and you become a violent alcoholic

So Zach just just cuz it's drinks you don't have to have a drink if you don't want an alcohol drink What would you get would you get to drink? What's your move? It depends if we do like a middle of the day or like an evening situation evening evening. I like maybe like a nice little tequila soda maybe a cognac situation tequila soda, maybe a cognac situation. Oh! Man of class. Alright, so Zach, what are we replying to her right now? We're just gonna be like, hey, you wanna get drinks?

What should I say? Should I just be like, hello Rachel, how are you today? I was thinking... No, no. Yes, he has to be Zach. She likes Zach, this is who Zach is, let Zach be Zach. Alright, so you just... How should we start this?

I think that's what you just said was perfect. Hello just how should we start this? I think I will do what you just said Hello Rachel. How are you today? I? Saw the video yeah, and then you just say it out say out loud what you're writing. I think it's gonna be great Dude, he's gonna. He's gonna crush this is gonna be good He said hello Rachel. Hope your weekend went well. I don't know he wasn't speaking so I was just going Oh, yeah, you I bet I was thinking I was trying to I was range. I was brain shopping or now is work That's workshopping. I like brain shop and plays Yeah, just stopping at the store. Yes, but you're off to a great start. You're off to a great start

Hope your weekend went well is a good line. That's a good one. Yeah Okay, it's appropriate timing cuz what do you got down day was wondering? Oh, no, he just deleted was wondering. Oh If you are still open to going on a date yes together yes What days? Work best for you. I like She's got a reply Purple button miss Pellet checking on her Pilates Let her tell you what date she's available, that's good exactly. We'll make it work in our the only thing

I've got to make sure is you can't Like let's hope this goes well You can't be in a Pilates studio You got to be like four or five dates deep before we get you in a Pilates studio I don't feel comfortable with having putting you in a Pilates studio and I say that from someone who I will never do Pilates in my life as well if I end up in a Pilates studio we probably won't go another date because I don't have Pilates in my right repertoire of physicality or physical activity I just don't have that no core strength I have

an idea what if she does want you to go into a Pilates studio at some point All of us have to do a practice Pilates here. Yeah, and yeah video us Yes, trying to do Pilates here will get a different Pilates instructor and we'll work right up it Yeah, because you're gonna need to do some sort of pre Pilates before you're honest. Yeah, but that's let's not let's not get ahead of ourselves I love that group date, 6 v 6. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. I think we start at 1 v 1.

No, we're saying that we will be like, Nathan, for you, rehearsal Pilates. So that when you get to the first Pilates, because I've never done Pilates, I've never been in the same room as Pilates. If you put me in that room, I would probably say things that are stupid, ask dumb questions. We'll work that out for you.

I also think it would be funny to see all of us trying to do Pilates. I agree. Now, Zach, we could also do the simulation before the first date, where you run through it with somebody in the office. You want to do that? You practice. Is you think it makes most sense to just save any date potential I have for the date like what if I what if I have? A good an okay performance on the practice date, and then I'm just and so then I have no performance on the real date But do you think that having a good you can't put your ass we can't put his best material out there But do you write that that's limited guys is that gonna give you more confidence going to the date if you have a really?

good run through Yeah, maybe I think he's saying like do it off like do it. We don't put it out till after the date comes out. Yeah, we might burn is you know, I don't even think we put it out. I think that we just we run the simulation. We just want you I think to have a great time. I think we just have to wait and see if we're Rachel still open to possibly going on a date. And if she says she would like to do that, then me and Rachel go on a date and then we'll see how that goes. I think you just be yourself and She's gonna be head over heels. I told you got one decision. You got to make on this date

It's a first date. No early celebrations. We're waiting for the DM back. All right, is it sent? We did not drink the champagne early officially sent sent. We have sent all right good for you, Zach This feels good Yeah, I'm looking forward to getting to know Rachel. Yeah, agree You're gonna be so polite on this day is gonna be the most great date of all time everybody's polite on first dates, right? No, you are the most polite and she's gonna love it. She's gonna love it Zach let's try to stay out of the kitchen on this date What's up? Let's try stay out of the kitchen like the date. What's up? Let's try to stay out of the kitchen, like the incident in Applebee's.

Oh, we just going to tell Anne that- Anna. I was going to tell Miss Anna that we enjoyed her service. We went to Applebee's. The boys went to Applebee's to end chill week and our server came and it was almost like a fine dining experience, which I respect her for. She took all of our appetizers and didn't take our entrees

and we were confused and we're like, wait, is she gonna also take our entrees? I was like, Zach, go, go tell her that we have a lot more to order. And then Zach just came back like 15 seconds later, shaking his head. And I was like, what happened? He's like, I ran after her. And I got all the way into the kitchen. And they started yelling at me because I was standing in the middle of the kitchen. So this went too deep. Yeah, that's just but you learning experience.

You just follow directions. I love about you just go get Anna you were gonna go to the end of the earth to get her She did come back for the uh, she was phenomenal. She's phenomenal. Yeah All right good show boys Got some good good interviews coming up this week and oh Takeys on Friday. So Smash, if you haven't subscribed to the YouTube, if you haven't subscribed to all of our where you get the podcasts,

Takey's are on Friday, officially. Takey's are coming on Friday. Okay, number three. I think that was me. I think that was PFC. I don't even think you said a number. I think it was PFC. I think you just said, I think that was PFC. No, that was memes. I said number three. I can see it. I can see it on the waves, that was memes. I think that I don't even think you said a number I think you just said no that was me. I said number three. I can see it

I can see it on the waves that was memes no way oh wait I still think it's me. I don't even think he says sounded like me pug. I hate to say it I think it was memes hugs taking a look he blurted out That's first We go up what we got pug oh wait no it actually was BF. Oh I know exactly you can see your mom is gone. No mine was gone. No yours was not gone What would you have guessed I thought it was you but yes three, but PFT didn't say no I said three No, no it was PFT. What's your mouth?

six 77 I'll do 59 26 99 poke 44 51 21 21. 21. 62. What would have happened there if it was three? I thought it was going to be three. What would have happened? I think I would have attacked PFC.

I think you would have had to attack them. I think you would have. Absolutely. No, it would have been my fault. Oh yeah, it would have been your fault. I would have attacked me. I think you would have had to attack. Yeah, absolutely No, it would have been my fault. Oh, yeah What do you know? No, but I was the one that ruled that it was you so memes who do you kill first me? Always nice. Well, no actually he would kill Shane first. Yeah, yeah Yeah, we should probably all do a blind poll of who we, what order we kill people and then we could just. Yeah, we could, I think we could figure out through the blind poll who's who's who.

I bet we could too. Yeah. Yeah. Pug would just be heartbreaking. No, Pug would pick no one. Yeah. Zach would for sure pick no one. No.

He would pick himself. He absolutely would. I just want the boys to have a good time. I don't want to be, I be I don't be in their way Alright, see you on Wednesday. Love you guys So So so I'm gonna be a good boy So So I'm out. Thanks for watching!