Pardon My Take - Triple H, Nats Win, And Big Ben's Elbow Cast

Episode Date: October 2, 2019

Natitude is back. The Nationals stun the Brewers in the 8th inning to start the MLB playoffs (2:29 - 12:49). Big Ben's cast stole the show for Monday Night Football (12:49 - 17:30). Hot Seat/Cool Thro...ne and all time Coach O story (17:30 - 31:52). Triple H joins the show to talk about his wrestling career, causing all of America's youth to get suspended from middle school, his favorite matches, and working with his father in law Vince McMahon (31:52 - 87:14). Segments include sabermetrics, breaking news about kirk cousins, pmt sports biz moments, and guys on chicks. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have Triple H, the game. We went up to WWE headquarters. We sat across the room from Vince McMahon. We felt his presence and we interviewed Triple H. We also have Playoff Baseball, Postseason Baseball, Game 1, Wild Card, NL, Unreal Ending, Game 163.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Game 163. We have Hot Seat, Cool Throne, and of course, because it is Wednesday, guys on chicks. Part of my take is brought to you by the Cash App. The Cash App is the most powerful way to send, spend, and save. You already know the Cash App is number one finance app in the App Store and what you might not know is that you can also put Cash App in your wallet with the Cash Card. It's the only debit card that offers instant rewards and comes packed with premium features. Not a credit card can offer like boosts.
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Starting point is 00:02:57 This is a milestone for Washington sports, the nationals first post-season series win of all time. I'm very excited. 11 more, we just got 11 more. And for people who are not watching, if you are, you're on barstoolgold.com slash PMT, go download it right now. PFT is full kit wanker. Well, I'm looking good.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I'm half kit wanker. I wish you had gone baseball pants. Well, I don't own baseball pants, I don't think any time somebody buys an adult male buys a pair of baseball pants. They should be put on a no fly list. So we'll just have a bubble buy them for you. Yeah. Bubble you can buy them.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I want Mrs's flights anyway. I want. Yeah, there you go. You don't need to fly at all. I'll have metal spikes. I'll have a belt. I'll have the stirrup socks. The whole nine yards.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I'm excited. I'm excited. And I can't help but be excited because it's a it's a big deal in Washington to win a playoff series. Trent Grisham yikes. So that is the name of your go to not in a good way. Basically a little league play like what you're taught right away. Don't let the ball get by you get in front of that ball.
Starting point is 00:04:00 It was a routine single. Josh Hader was not good. He did not have it. I have a stat for you to tell you how stupid baseball is real quick. I have a stat for you. Okay. It's called ball don't lie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And the umpire was awful all night. And so ball don't lie. Well, okay. In defense of the Brewers, which I do not want to do and I will I'm not going to stick it to the Brewers. I'm just going to say congratulations on getting to play one extra game in the Cubs. That was great of you guys. I do think that the ball might have hit that guy's bat first.
Starting point is 00:04:28 It was simultaneous. So that that's one that people will argue and have fun arguing it because nothing can change. But that's the beauty of sports. But baseball is the dumbest sport in the world. Josh Hader face 66 left handed hitters this year. He gave up a single to one of them. He hadn't allowed two singles in the same appearance since May 27.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And then that happened. It was awesome. And everyone and everyone enjoyed it. And before the game, I was very, I was not Milwaukee. I was very, very nervous. I was extremely different fans. You know how you say Cleveland Indians and Cleveland Browns fans are different. Packers owners are different from Milwaukee Brewers fans.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Kato Kalin is a Brewers fan. I doubt that he owns a share of the pack. But what I'm getting at here, I'm actually going to go to his Twitter account. Go ahead. He went off King tonight big time before the game. I was very, very nervous because the Nationals manager accidentally shaved his playoff beard before the playoffs even started, but which was a big, big no, no, the playoffs haven't started.
Starting point is 00:05:25 That was the postseason. The postseason. Well, it's the same thing. The post postseason is what we're going into next. The playoffs are when you get your ass kicked by the Dodgers. Okay. What's the difference between post Malone and playoff Malone? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Probably the beard. When he has a scraggly beard. That's when it's the playoffs. But yeah, he accidentally trimmed his, his, he went no guard on it. It's happened to all of us before we've been giving ourselves a little shave, a haircut. You accidentally have the guard slip off, the clipper flies out and boom, you take off a stretch of landing strip. So we're a, I think I'm beginning to think team of destiny, the, oh, the Nats.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Yeah. Okay. Prove me wrong. I think the Dodgers will. Okay. That's actually a compelling point. Yeah. I'm brutal to have to go all the way to the West coast after, you know, chugging a bunch
Starting point is 00:06:10 of champagne in the locker room right now. But as they always say, happy to do it. I'm going to savor this one. I'm absolutely going to savor it. Max Scherzer, by the way. Speaking of the Dodgers, Max Scherzer had a little of his own like mini curse shot going with not looking good. The first couple of innings that he settled down, he settled down.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It was, I mean, it's crazy. This is, if you're a Brewers fan, I don't think you can get lower than that because that is truly a game that was like snatched from the jaws of victory, whatever the fucking saying, they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Correct. That was, that game was over. I don't know if you should have pulled hater there. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I mean, he was wild. He was a rock. That is. That's a brutal, brutal law. And that's, that is, like we said, that is a t-ball level like error that you make. Yeah. Admittedly, I haven't watched a lot of haters pitching, but when he came in, he just looked like a guy that can't find the strike zone.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Well, so wild dude, Kater, Kato kill and said, Hater has lost five games. He's pitched at the Brewers and blew the game and wait on and blew the game in Colorado where he wouldn't had to play wild card. The worst. So you make more gas than a gaffer on film set. That's good. Oh, that's a little double entendre. Don't.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Don't manage next year. Everyone knew Hater would choke except you. Even Hater knew he'd choke. Poop emoji. Kato, let's not say things. We can't take back. Former guest of the show, by the way. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Damn. Oh, wait. Here's the one. Counsel. Obviously the, the all caps is when I'm young. Counsel. You blew it. Pomerance.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Only three 19 pitches. I think he meant throw. Let him throw more. Brewers face before he came in and said defeat in diarrhea. Goodbye, Twitter. You suck Milwaukee Brewers. Oh no, Kato. He came in and said defeat in diarrhea and weird caps.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I got it. He went back and forth there. Switching back and forth. Kato, I thought you would be a guy that would stand up for your friends. You've changed, man. Uh, again, I'm not going to be, uh, like, you know, a sour loser because the Cubs didn't do anything in the central this year and they fumbled down the stretch, so I'm not going to stick it to Brewers fans, but I will point out the fact that Christian Yelich would not
Starting point is 00:08:16 have made that error in right field. Definitely not. Absolutely not. So I'm just going to point that out. I'm just going to point that out. And we overcame a lot of adversity in the game too. This was tweeted out, I think in the fourth inning when we were trailing. This is from Brad Todd.
Starting point is 00:08:28 The guy's fucking name is Brad Todd. That's actually awesome. That's Chad. That is so Chad. That's very Chad. That's Alpha Chad. Admittedly, that's Chad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:38 That's Chad fucking a verge. And he says two dudes on my row. I'm going to switch out dudes to verges. Two verges on my row came back with cans of hard seltzer at a playoff game. Mind you, Washington's baseball fan base deserves all the ridicule it gets. Brad Todd. Yeah. That was classic.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Classic Brad Todd move right there to tweet that out. Brad Todd. Yeah. So playoff baseball is here. It takes forever, but I mean, it was an exciting game. What are you going to say? It was and shout out to all the people who bet the over because you thought for a second you had a chance and I've never seen someone happier to get tagged out in a run town.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Oh, he's pumped. He was so pumped. He was so pumped. The thing about betting on baseball, that's how they get you is the one and a half run line. It's like, oh, that's basically just a win. No, it's actually it's two runs. Well, and the and the nationals really had no business winning the game.
Starting point is 00:09:30 So winning by one and a half would just get greedy. And also, Hank, you started out rocky tonight, laughing in my face at a home run that didn't go over that I thought was going over. You were just excited to see me in misery, which I get. I mean, I enjoy having big cat on this show after a devastating playoff loss. I think more than anyone, more than more than most. And Hank was kind of rubbing in my face a little bit. But then Hank turned it around by texting Marlins man for me and telling him to turn
Starting point is 00:09:56 his visor at the nationals dugout and everything turned around after that. In Hank's defense, I think it's going to take it takes at least one game adjustment to get used to Natitude PFT. Natitude PFT like when we came out of where ever we were in and it was already to nothing and you look like you wanted to cry. I was like, wait, I came around the corner and we do. We do live streaming all the time here and I came around the corner and you're wearing your full, your full kit and there was a plot fly that you thought was a home run.
Starting point is 00:10:23 And you basically dropped your knees and had your hand on your head. It was like, no, I was laughing because I thought you were like over exaggerating or like doing something. And then you gave me that you gave me the big cat desk thing that you turned around and gave me the like, don't you ever fucking smile again. Like what the fuck is wrong with you? And I was like, oh, it's going to take. We are now transitioned to Natitude PFT season.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Like it took a game. We weren't ready for it. We didn't know you're going to show up in a full jersey. Here's the fact. Nobody in the world has been a Nats fan for as long as I have. I'm tied. Tied. Tied with a lot. It was probably two million people.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Well, no, actually, that's not true, because aren't there original Washington senator fans? That's not the Nats. They moved to Texas. Yeah, no, they do a research. So are they exposed fans then? Exposed fans. There's someone in Montreal who's wearing a shirt or jersey right now who's over the moon.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Alayla Natitude. Yeah, he's just so, so happy. Natitude sounds like a beautiful French word. He's so, so kiss it, not be any cheesy. All right. And then tomorrow night, we get the race for CAs. Woo. All right. The toilet bowl of MLB. Woo. And now I'm no, I was about to say there's going to be raised fans mad.
Starting point is 00:11:30 But there's, I mean, maybe third leg, Greg, like, no, I don't even know. Dicky V. He'll be upset. He'll do a periscope. That will be great. One eye dick. The tough part is anytime Tampa Bay loses in anything, a lot of people dive stress. It actually does happen. It's an epidemic.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I'll be rooting for the A's because I want our friend Dallas Braden to be in the mix and go and have to play the Astros. Alex Bregman, by the way, on the show on Friday. All right, let's get to the rest of the show. We have to at least address Big Ben on Monday Night Football in a full cast. And then at halftime, when Mason Rudolph looked pretty good through on the sling, he got more injured as the game went along.
Starting point is 00:12:14 While he was talking into his not plugged in walkie talkie. Well, it was either plugged into nobody or it was just plugged into his his Madden Xbox lobby so he could hear his friends talking. I don't know what it was, but yeah, he injured himself by being more injured. And then he comes out with a sling when, first of all, where does where does Ben just get that sling at halftime? Does he try to go into the training room? They're like, Hey, Ben, you're not playing.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Or is his locker like a bat cave of medical devices that he opens up? Takes a deep breath. He's like, All right, master, Ben, I think he probably asked the doctor. He's like, Hey, doc, my arm is hurting. He's like, Ben, it's in a cast. And he's like, Yeah, but my arm's hurting. He's like, All right, take these two Tylenol and put on this sling. I mean, a sling actually is pretty comfortable.
Starting point is 00:12:54 It's a hammock for your arm. Oh, I didn't have it on to begin with. The cast was so fucking funny. Mason Rudolph, not bad. I can tell you can tell the rising tide of Steeler fans being like, Why not? Because, you know, the division leader right now is two and two. And then the Bengals, who is it? Is that it for Andy Dalton? Are we done? Well, I looked at who are we done here?
Starting point is 00:13:15 You know who their backup is? No, Ryan, your bump, Ryan Finley, your bump. Yeah, it's Ryan Finley. I looked up his stats. I just Googled him. Yeah, popped up on the main Google search. He's six, three and one hundred eighty five pounds. I want to see that guy in a game.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Terrell Suggs could floss with him. That's how that's how narrow he is. Andy Dalton, like I feel bad because he's a nice guy. We've had him on the show, but I think we're done here. I think it's it's time to just be done because in the Bengals are terrible. They did him no, no, like service by basically letting him get smoked every single play and the play calling. It felt like every time the Bengals had like four passes in a row, they're like,
Starting point is 00:13:55 let's just run it three times and just see if this will work. That's not very Sean McVeigh of Zach Taylor. Yeah, by the way, Zach Taylor, Vic Fangio, Vic Fangio and four good, good looking Cliff Kingsbury and Brian Flores all have zero wins. Interesting. Four new coaches all have zero wins. I don't think that's ever happened. They got to appreciate that about the other ones, though. That's like they're all separately like fucked.
Starting point is 00:14:17 They're on a group text. They're like, yo, way to do a solid for a Zach like Brian Flores texted him last night. He's like, yo, thanks, man, because the heat's getting hotter for all of us. But they have like a packed one of those, like when all the teenagers get pregnant at the same time, wasn't there a movie about that? Mine was like the opposite. It was just lose your virginity. Yeah, pregnancy packed.
Starting point is 00:14:38 We'll worry about the sperm hitting the egg later. Yeah, they all have a pack to just never win a football game. Yeah, I want to talk real quick about just the entire aesthetic of Big Ben on the sidelines and how he looked, how he appeared because he looked healthier on the sidelines than he looks during games. Yes, like he was moving around. I think he gets healthier the more he gets injured, if that makes sense, because he had some spunk in his step.
Starting point is 00:15:02 He was very demonstrative. He was like jogging back and forth. I like big. I like Big Ben injured on the sidelines better than I like him in a game. Yes, I agree. I agree. He looked like he was having more fun doing that. Like it was a live version of playing Madden for him.
Starting point is 00:15:18 We yeah, we need to have like when Big Ben retires, just make him stand on the sideline in a big cast, in a cast that just gets bigger as the as the weeks go on. Can you imagine how bad the inside of his cast smells like Big Ben's arm? Yes, that smells like Tiger Woods golf clubs. I'm surprised he didn't have people just start signing it on the sideline. Yeah, everyone, everyone huddle around. Mason Rudolph's getting a little too much pub here.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Just bottle up his arm sweat and use it to like keep deer away from people's crops. Yes, like drop it on the fence post. I'll tell you what, if the if the Steelers beat the Ravens this weekend, watch out. Then the terrible Talons are really breaking out. And everyone's saying the Stellars are going to go to the playoffs. Two words for you. AFC North football this weekend. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Back. It's back. Thank God that the Steelers won so that we can have a semi relevant game between the two. What a suck to feel our own for it. I hope when Ben goes into the Hall of Fame, he's got a giant neck brace on on the bust. Just put how big would a neck brace have to be to fit around Ben's neck? It would have to be like a twin size mattress. I hope they do old school big Ben long hair on the bus and the just the flow and the fedora.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Yeah. The big booger Ben is what I call that when he looked like he slipped back his hair. Oh, so good. So that was Monday Night Football. Let's do some hot seat, cool throne and then get to Triple H. Hank, hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat is Dame Willard. Okay. So he recently went. I feel like we've talked about this every week.
Starting point is 00:16:48 We've talked about this show a lot recently. We went on the Joe Budden podcast and they were asking about rappers. Is that the guy with? Oh, not the vice president. No, they said he basically because he was talking about Shaq and he said the only reason he was popular was because he was Shaq and a famous athlete, not because he was a good rapper, which Shaq took great offense to because it's true because it's true. But obviously, you know, he took offense to it, which led to him dropping a diss track. He had a couple of bars such as MVP candidate, MVP candidate.
Starting point is 00:17:18 You are not one. Lyrically, I'm three time finals MVP MVP candidate. You are not one. That rolls pretty good. Yeah. It's Drake like sounds pretty devastating though. Yeah. And he burned him.
Starting point is 00:17:28 So did. So Dame just sat there and took it like Drake or did he come back on him? He came back on him. He wait, wait. Did he clap back? He clapped back with a diss track of his own. The problem, it was okay, but the problem was that Shaq's diss track went harder and Shaq has the power of inside the NBA, Kenny, Chuck, to just all season long go at Dame Lillard.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And Dame Lillard's in Portland, not a big market. I feel like this is one of those things where Dame Lillard's going to regret it because he's just going to be like Shaq's going to be on his shit all year long. Although that can turn on Shaq because when Kenny and Charles go at Shaq, it's the funniest thing ever. He becomes a big puddle and he just sits there and just like, oh, why being so mean to me? Is there a way to do it without doing like a diss track? Because I think incorporating a full song kind of opens you up to a lot of criticism.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Maybe the beat's not as good as it could be. Maybe your rapping voice isn't as great as your lyrics are. Like, what about this poetry, slam poetry? Just go on CJ McCollum's podcast, on his fucking podcast, and do like snap poetry. Take your time to respond. There is no hurry. You'll never be Westbrook, never be Steph Curry. Oh, there we go.
Starting point is 00:18:33 What's in your wallet, American Express or Visa? Talking like you're Braun, you ain't even Trevor Arisa. Okay, so setting that up with American Express and Visa was that's that's he's trying too hard to rhyme. He wrote Arisa and then he was like, I need something that rhymes with Arisa. Yeah. Okay. All right. What's your cool throne? I took a pill in a visa.
Starting point is 00:18:53 My cool throne is Gucci, man. Yeah. He signed an endorsement deal with Gucci. That seems like it should have happened a while ago. I know. Is that not the reason for his name to begin with? He invented Gucci? Well, no, he just that was he would talk about it a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:07 But finally, after all these years, many people have been clamoring for it. That's a pity deal, though. It is. Gucci's like, yo, we got so many years of free publicity. That's like giving Joe Thysman a Heisman Award right now. Yeah, like, what are you doing? Like, it's already happened. We've already gotten all the free publicity out of this out of Gucci man out of the Gucci man brain.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Because Thysman changed his name. It was Thiesman. And then he wanted to win. I hand gave me a look like what? That's what he wanted to win the Heisman trophy when he was in college. So he changed the pronunciation of his name to Thysman from Thiesman. And he still didn't win. Are you being I'm dead.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I'm dead serious. Brutal. Pretty much the exact same thing that Gucci man is going through right now. Well, except it worked out for Gucci. Yeah, he did. He won the high. Has he ever broken his leg? Nobody's killed someone.
Starting point is 00:19:52 OK. Oh, all right. So about even Steven's. OK. It was self-defense. So he got off. Oh, all right. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:19:57 We're doing something new every day. All right. Pete, what do you got? My hot seat is romance. Yeah. Because a Utah woman was attacked by a bison. Just months. Bison.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It's a bison. Bison is a team. It's a football team. Yeah. So she was attacked by a bison on a date. And it turns out it was just months after her date went to that park. And he had gotten attacked by a bison. So he went.
Starting point is 00:20:21 He decided to go back to the park this time with a date. And then she got attacked. Got it. So this is like his first date got killed. No, he was attacked personally the first time. Yep. And then he decided he would take a date there a couple of months later.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And then she got attacked. I can actually see the reasoning. Like lightning doesn't strike twice. Same place twice. A bison doesn't attack the same guy twice. Maybe. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:43 He probably brought her along as protection against the bison. What was he wearing? Hank, don't do that. Don't do that. We were dressed as a blade of grass. Yeah. Which was tough. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Bull a hay. I did. I did note that in the story they kept referring to the guy as her date. So she kept calling him her date, not her boyfriend. Which very clearly means that they're no longer an item. They would have been. They would have been if she hadn't gotten gored. First date getting bison attacked is probably not great for the for the rest of the relationship.
Starting point is 00:21:13 It's also just God saying maybe this relationship isn't meant to be. Yeah. If nature is attacking you. Or don't live in North Dakota. Or there's bison everywhere. Yeah. By the way. Are you tall?
Starting point is 00:21:23 Huge comeback for bison because I thought they were extinct. Yeah, I did too. Same. Mm hmm. They're back. Big come up for bison. My other hot seat is brands. Because California just allowed college athletes to make money off their likenesses
Starting point is 00:21:38 by allowing student athletes to get endorsements. And some media watchdogs out there are very concerned about how this is going to affect brands. Here's a good test to see if it's good or bad for student athletes to start making money off their likeness. If it's good, that means most people agree with it. Or sorry, if it's if it's a good. If it's a bad thing. That means everyone's like, I don't know if it's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:22:04 That means Revelle Gottlieb and Dan Dockich are all opposed. That's a yeah. The three horsemen of the brand. Revelle. I don't know what. I don't know who's paying Revelle where he is so opposed to this when the biggest argument against like letting kids make money off their likeness is that it will make it unfair and the same six to eight college football teams win the national title, which
Starting point is 00:22:33 is no different than it is right now. It happens the exact same way right now. And then some people are saying that LeBron James endorsed it and that he got out in front of it because his son is about to be a college athlete. So he wants his son to make money. That's not it. That's not what's happening. He wants the players to get paid so they're more likely to stay in college.
Starting point is 00:22:52 The elite players so they don't come to the NBA and compete against him. That's what's really happening. If you're in high school right now and you're a five star recruit, like you should be staying back as much as you can. Yes. Yeah. Keep staying back. Don't go to school.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Keep failing. Like whoever that person is in the class of whatever the last year is like 2022. Like that's that's terrible. I really don't understand how anyone could argue against this. I don't. I don't. It makes no sense. So here's the argument.
Starting point is 00:23:16 You can't allow me. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go cat. If we allow companies to pay athletes, then you'll get Alabama boosters that pay a shitload of money to players to come to their school that don't actually do real jobs in this crazy situation that I just made up in my head with Georgia to Georgia would probably
Starting point is 00:23:35 do it. Clemson USC might buy houses for student athletes. It's great too because under these like weird arguments that the people opposed to this make, it's like these fictitious car dealers in Alabama are going to give millions and millions of dollars every single year to five star recruits. Like I think we can let like free market play that out and it would just be a bad investment in just a business giving 18 year olds millions of dollars a year after year. And so Florida is trying to respond to it.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Florida is putting their own bill out there to try to compete just for recruits. It's just for recruiting purposes because right now what we're looking at is actually nightmare. If it's California, that's the only state that can do it because they'll re-release NCAA football, but it'll be all shitty Pac-12 teams that we'll have to play with. That sucks. Pac-12 will finally be back. Larry Scott will figure out a way to fuck this up.
Starting point is 00:24:30 He'll skim some off the top. Did you see Jay Billis took a little shot at Mark Titus? He was like it doesn't matter if you're LeBron James or Mark Titus or somewhere in between. Jay, last night checked our friend Mark Titus is a better college basketball player than LeBron James. He's played more minutes. He's got more rebounds. Fowls.
Starting point is 00:24:50 He's not been drafted in the first round more often between years of college. Went to a final four. Went to a final four. Won a big 10. The list goes on for Mark Titus. As far as I'm concerned, he's college basketball royalty. Mark Titus is a better college basketball player than LeBron James. You and I are the same exact level of college basketball player as LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:25:10 That's a fact. Facts. My cool throne is numerology. Because Gardner-Minshew's completion rate right now is 69.420. Retire. So just quit. I mean there's a good chance Rob Gronkowski just decides to play for the Jax instead when he sees this.
Starting point is 00:25:27 But we're not forcing 69 jokes on people. We're not doing that. But it does make sense because permission to make a Rick Riley joke. Yeah. He's beaten the Broncos and he's beaten the Titans. So he's pretty good at licking teams that suck. Oh, okay. 2.25.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Okay. So it's above the two grade. Thank you. That's nice. I actually think Gardner-Minshew was just invented by the internet to give us content. It's unbelievable. It really is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:53 My hot seat is Hank and PFT's Patriots because yeah. Yeah. Bill Belichick at least got my nuts. Bill Belichick said before the game against the Redskins this weekend all three QB's look pretty good talking about the Redskins and said it's a very well designed offense very well balanced. The Redskins offense is 28th. Well, it's all three QB's. Well, it's tough to game plan against three different quarterbacks that suck for different reasons.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Belichick was also quoted last week as saying he does not care about numbers or stats. He just says what he looks at on the film. Stats are for losers. I just love the ongoing Bill Belichick trying to find a way to complement terrible teams to get his team motivated. It is good. It's so good. I mean because you can do things.
Starting point is 00:26:41 You've got you've got Case Keenum who sucks because he sucks. You've got Colt McCoy who sucks because he's coming off of a leg injury that was mismanaged. And then you've got Dwayne Haskins who sucks because he shouldn't be playing right now. Correct. So which one of those pick your poison, Bill Belichick. A lot of suck. All right. Our cool throw.
Starting point is 00:26:58 My cool thrown is our football heroes because we had multiple stories today. We had a piece about Kocho in the athletic where they told about him shotgunning red bowls how before every single game he punches himself quote he gets your he gets your hands up be ready to fight be ready to take a lick in the face and every single Saturday in his pregame speech he punches himself in the face hard as shit. Yeah. And we've seen it. We've seen him set your jaw right.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Set your jaw. I told you to set your jaw. Set your jaw. It's one of those existential questions. Yeah. Like is coach O strong enough to break his own iron jaw. No. I don't.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Well then you're saying he's weak. No. His jaw is so strong. Yeah. But then you're saying his arms are weak. No. His jaw is too strong. His jaw would beat his arms in arm wrestling.
Starting point is 00:27:48 They're actually tied. Yeah. I think he knocked out a tooth. I think that was also a story. He knocked out his own tooth. And then the other football legend that we have is the story of Andy Reed who once ate a 40 ounce steak in 19 minutes. That's pretty impressive.
Starting point is 00:28:06 That's pretty impressive. Where was he timed? Was this at one of those restaurants? It was prime quarter and they both ordered a giant 40 ounce steak and the waitress said if you eat this thing in under an hour you get your picture on the wall in a chef's hat and all that. Say no more. And Andy ate it in 19 minutes.
Starting point is 00:28:24 He had he had 41 minutes to spare. Say less ma'am. I think that probably a 40 ounce steak is a unit of time measurement for Andy Reed. He's like that. Yeah. It's about how much time we got left. Three timeouts. We got two porter houses left in there.
Starting point is 00:28:37 That's probably why it's so bad at managing the clock. He just thinks of everything in terms of how much how much time would take me to eat this thing of meat. Yeah. Let's run our skirt steak offense. Yeah. We got 40 seconds left. Just hear that for me.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Fucking perfect. God damn it. So our football heroes are intact. You love to see stories like that. All right. Let's get to our interview with Triple H. It was an awesome interview. We went up to WWE headquarters.
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Starting point is 00:32:16 It is Triple H, 14 time world champion. When we're airing this on October 2nd, you're going to be watching him that night, USA Network, NXT. They're going to the USA Network, so you can watch them every single Wednesday night. Is that right? Yeah, every Wednesday night, two hours live. We've been in Wednesdays since the beginning, kind of been our time slot for NXT on the WWE Network.
Starting point is 00:32:40 So this is the same time slot, just shifting over and going to two hours live. Okay, nice. But obviously increases the viewability. Yes. Because it goes from the network, which is a very limited subscriber base to USA. And USA get ready 90 million people or whatever. So I wanted to actually start it with the interview with your nicknames through the years, and I want you to rank them.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Can you rank them for sure? Go ahead. Triple H, we have the game. We have terrorizing, which is far the worst. Reginald depends on how you look at the terrorizing one. It's either the best or the worst. Okay. Can you spell Ryzen in a cool, like, bad ass way?
Starting point is 00:33:19 With a Z, yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, so there's a story to that as well. Okay, so tell it. Yes. Well, Kowalski, when, so when I started training, very shortly after I started training, Kowalski was going to have me do the first show. It was actually something that didn't happen was a tour.
Starting point is 00:33:34 He was going to take everybody on to South America that never materialized. He needed names and stuff for the cards. And I had just started. Like, I hadn't even had a live match yet. And so he said, I'm going to put your name on there. What do you want your name to be? And I was like, I don't know. I hadn't really thought about it yet, you know, trying to think of something.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And he said, I'm going to call you the terrorizer. And I was like, the terrorizer? Like, that's terrible. Yeah. And, you know, to me just sounded like the bruiser or the crusher, like so 70s wrestler. And I was like, can I just have a name, like a first name and a last name? And he got like in typical Kowalski fashion, got very upset and was like, you want the first name and a last name?
Starting point is 00:34:19 Great. And he took a magic marker and drew a line in the middle of the terror. Rising. Rising. Yeah. And he said, now you have two names terrorizing. There you go. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:30 And so then it came back and it was spelled wrong. Yeah. When the stuff came back, which was never used. But then when I had my first match, that's what they used. So they just kind of stuck with me. When I went to WCW, they were like, uh, was that your wrestling? You know, terrorizing. Is your wrestling name thing?
Starting point is 00:34:48 I'm like, as the name Kowalski gave me when I was training. Man, don't worry about it. We're going to repackage you anyways. And, uh, you know, you'll have a whole new gimmick when you get started with us. And, uh, that weekend I went home and my dark match aired on Saturday night television for, on Turner, you know, on, on TBS that weekend. My dark match, which wasn't supposed to ever see the light of day, was on the air and listed me out as terrorizing.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And I called him that Monday and was like, um, yeah. What? Why would that was on? I thought you were going to repackage me. And it's the best answer I ever got from Bishop. He said, yeah, don't worry about it. No one watches these shows anyway. There you go.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Right. Great genius. So what's number one for me? Yeah. Um, the game. I think just because it was so one, it came, um, fans kind of did it. Like king of kings, cerebral assassin, king of kings.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I said in a promo cerebral assassin was JR. You know, he just would call me that and commentary all the time. The game was just something that came up in, in a promo I did with JR where, um, and it was at the time when, you know, we were just kind of moving into the attitude era or really entrenched in the attitude era. I was known as triple H by then because I didn't want to change from Hunter Helmsley and as the attitude era came, I wanted to keep the value of what that was, but clearly the name wasn't the best.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Right. Um, and everybody called me triple H backstage. So that's what we went with. The game was just in a promo where as I was kind of cutting a breakout promo with JR backstage, I said, you know, you guys, everybody here is getting put into positions that they don't deserve. You talk about success here. You got to be a student of the game. I'm beyond that, man.
Starting point is 00:36:31 You want to talk about that. Fuck that. I am the game. Yeah. Yes. And that, you know, that, that week when I came out on TV, there were a lot of signs, triple H is the game, all that stuff. And as soon as I saw it, I was like, oh man, that resonated.
Starting point is 00:36:47 So then I just started calling myself that all the time and it stuck. And then with a motorhead song. And then, yeah. And so that was, you know, slightly down the line from there. There was a period of time where they wanted to get me some new entrance music from the my time stuff, which was a great song, but they wanted to shift it and do something more based on, on me and the point that I was in in my career. I had a specific sound I wanted and they kept trying to make the music.
Starting point is 00:37:13 To me, it wasn't really working. It wasn't, it wasn't rough enough. It wasn't drawn off and didn't feel just guttural. And I remember speaking to Kevin Dunn one day and they played me a bunch of cuts. I'm like, I don't like it. It's just not what I want. And he said, well, what is it? Give me an example of something you want.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I said, I wanted to sound like motorhead. Like that just raw, gritty feel and that voice. And he said, well, why don't we just see if they can do it? And I was like, because I didn't know that was an option. Yeah. And they called them and I had never met them at that time. They cut the song. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Then I met them and then he and I became really, really close friends for years. Yeah. When he seems like a cool guy, like to just pick up the phone and be like, yeah, I will do triple H's intro music. So here's the thing too, is he wasn't a fan and he told me this story after. He said, no, I didn't know who you were. But I can't remember. They were in like Berlin or something and or Hamburg, I think it was.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And Lem went in and tried to do the song a couple of times and he hated the cut that they had sent over that. So there's a version of the song that they had recorded. He hated it. So he rewrote it and rewrote all the lyrics. But before he did that, he tried to do a cut of it. And he was like, I don't know what you're trying to get out of this guy. Like, I don't know anything about him.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So they sent them pictures in a video. He said he watched the video was made in some match bleeding and everything. And he watched the video, saw the pictures and said, I can, I can do this guy. And went in and cut it in one take and they sent it over to me. And I was like, I love it. That's perfect. Yeah, perfect. And then of course, then they did other songs.
Starting point is 00:38:52 They did King of Kings for me also. And then they did a line in the sand for evolution. And then he had written a song for me as well called Triple H that they never recorded. Then I did a track with them on hammered their album called Serial Killer, where they synced our voices together in a spoken track. That's awesome. And then an interesting story of the right before sort of his passing, the last album they put out had sympathy for the devil on him, had heroes by Bowie.
Starting point is 00:39:25 We're the ones that talked him into doing those. I wanted him to do a cover album. We were going to split it. We were going to take the digital and they were going to take the vinyl. And we met with Lem in LA at Staples Center after show and we talked about it. And one of our music guys suggested, maybe Lem, maybe you could even do a rap song or something. Oh, fuck that. I mean, his eyes bugged out of his head and he was like, okay, rap.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I would, I would pay good money though to listen to a Motorhead song. We were just trying to rap over. But he didn't want to do, heroes he was all into. We made a list of songs and then they did some and we picked some. Sympathy for the Devil was one that I suggested because I could just picture his voice doing it. Yeah. And or imagine it and he didn't want to do it. Then they recorded it, but he left out a whole verse because he said,
Starting point is 00:40:15 when I called him, I was like, Lem, it's awesome. But like he left out a whole verse. He's like, it's too long. I want to do the whole song. The song's too damn long. He said, it's not the song. If you don't do the whole thing, everybody knows that song. You got to do the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:40:29 He said, all right, whatever. So he went back in the studio and they finished recording it, but it is awesome. And they've used it for commercials. That's incredible. Those are two of my favorite songs that they've done. I actually, it's like that cover album was intense. It was awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And they were, we were going to do a whole album of it. And then towards the end, we have one of the last interviews he did here. I did it with Corey Graves and myself went to the rainbow and did an interview with Lemmy. This is not long before he passed. Because I, he kind of, when I had seen him the time before that, I think he knew, like coming through a close. And he talked about us doing the interview and he was going to try to do this cover album. So he just kind of wanted to get in a room and talk and record it.
Starting point is 00:41:15 So that's what we kind of did. And Corey Graves came to, to kind of like be a moderator and ask questions and all that stuff. And he told me that day that they were going to put it on. They were coming out with a new album and they were going to put it on there because he just, he wanted to get the stuff out. He was actually mad because I think heroes didn't make the album. I think they put it out later. One of the, one of the two songs didn't make the album.
Starting point is 00:41:41 And he was, the day that we had the rainbow, he was still really mad at Todd, their manager, because Todd couldn't fit it on the album. And Todd was trying to say like, there's only so much room on the vinyl to put, like I can't make more room on the vinyl. Show them cut out, you know, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, but, but it was really, really cool.
Starting point is 00:42:03 And he was a really close friend of mine. Oh yeah. One other nickname I want to get to is Jean-Paul Levesque. Yeah. That you had. So you were a French Canadian aristocrat. Yeah. Well, actually it was supposed to be a French aristocrat.
Starting point is 00:42:17 So there's a transition of the booking team in WCW when I'm there. And it's a mess, you know, everything's all over the place there. And Flair now is taking the booking. So I get a call one day when they're not really doing that much with me. I get a call from them one day and he says, we need you to come to CNN and shoot these interviews. And I'm like, that's a good sign for me to go out to go do interviews. That's good. And I get there and I see them and they're like, hey, we like your last name Levesque.
Starting point is 00:42:47 So we're going to go with that. And I'm like, it's very common last name. Like if you're from the Northeast or whatever and they're like, it's very unique. We want you to do that. So go in the other room and cut promos on Alex Wright in French. And I'm like, whoa, like I don't speak any French whatsoever. But your last name. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah. That's what they said. But you, but your last name is French. And I'm like, I know, but I don't like have any association to that any at all. And they were like, well, go in the other room and cut promos with a French accent then. Because that's what you're going to be. You're going to be John Paul. I was like, oh my God, I like went in the other room and there's just one interview
Starting point is 00:43:23 that that lives out there somewhere that is me doing like the worst Inspector Cluzo kind of accent, trying to do this French accent on Alex Wright. And yeah, like be a French guy. And so then, and then I, when I left, I did the interviews and when I was walking out, I said, so what is the character? Like, what do you guys want me to do? And they were like, you figure it out. That's your job.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah. You're just a French guy. You're French. So yeah. So I just went home and was like, what would get me the absolute most possible heat I could get? And I just went with Erythracite. I wore like a lace to bone on like a hip waiter boots and add stuff made. And was like, it's the most heat I could possibly think of getting.
Starting point is 00:44:04 And it, you know, got a huge reaction, right? And once that got a reaction, Regal then got the call and was like, we're going to put you guys together as like this aristocrat tag team. And we're supposed to be called the blue bloods. And they, they were taking Sherry Martel was with Harlem Heat. She was going to take, they were taking Sherry Martel from Harlem Heat and putting her with us. And, but Sherry and I actually went and, and I went with her. She asked me to go with her.
Starting point is 00:44:32 She came with me to help me find these boots. And I went with her to help get some dresses like they were doing, like the big Marie Antoinette. Yeah. Marie Antoinette dresses and she started to get them. But then my contract was up and I ended up leaving. So it never came to be. Damn, could have been the aristocrats, the blue bloods. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:50 The craziest part about your career is that at 14, you knew you wanted to be a wrestler. And then you just became one. Is that right? I mean, you, like, I mean, most people were quite that simple. Well, when I was 14, I wanted to be a wrestler. And I just thought that like stone cold stunning all my friends would get me there. You actually were like, Hey, I'm going to lift weights and become a wrestler. And I mean, it's crazy though to know that.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Did you know that literally at 14, you're like, this is what I want to do. And I'm going to get there anyway. I can pretty much think that was in my head. Yeah. Like that's the thing. Like, you know, sometimes people will say about me. Oh, well, he came from a bodybuilding background. I didn't come about my bodybuilding background.
Starting point is 00:45:29 I competed in a couple of shows as a teenager because it helped motivate me to train. But the goal was never, oh, I'm going to be a pro bodybuilder or anything else. The goal was I went to the gym at 14 to try to get bigger because all the guys I looked at on TV that were wrestlers were big and huge and muscular and strong. And to me, that's where you needed to be. So, okay. So I got to get there and just systematically went at it. And then as I got bigger and got later, probably around my 20 years old or something
Starting point is 00:46:05 like that, I realized, all right, so now I got to try to find a way to get trained, which was not easy at the time. Right. Was able to get Taylor Kowalski's information, started training with him. And that is one of the things that for me, when I went to Kowalski's the first time, there's a lot of guys in there. There were 150 pounds and little and, you know, they're just in there playing wrestler and stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Why don't you look at me when you said little? They would wear sunglasses in their hair down and they were like, ah, I'm a wrestler. Right. And then. And then jassels. Got it. But Kowalski saw me walk in the door and was like, wow, this kid coming in here is like 260. I think I was like 260, 270 at the time.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And he was like, yeah, so I'm going to work with you. So he would let other guys just get in the ring, do whatever they were doing. He wouldn't pay attention. When I would come there, he would get in the ring with me and spend a lot of time. Me and Perry Saturn also, he spent a lot of time with Perry. Is it crazy to look now? Because I know you, you opened the whole facility in Orlando where you're training wrestlers and everything.
Starting point is 00:47:05 And you're like, I started in, I would assume killer Kowalski's gym was not state of the art at the time. It was probably a like rundown warehouse or something. It was a rundown warehouse, no heat, hardly any heat, no AC. And we were learning in a boxing ring. So a boxing ring has no give to it. It's got an, it had a metal pole, an eye beam in the center that held the ring stiff. So it had no give, but I didn't know the difference.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I thought that's, I was like, man, this. My back hurts every day. Yeah, this is brutal, right? But that's what it was. So I, you know, that's how I learned to wrestle the first time. I didn't wrestle in a real wrestling ring, like a, you know, one that we would use, which people think is like a trampoline. It's not, it has some give to it though.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I didn't wrestle in one of those until the first time I went to a show. And the first time I went to a show and worked in a ring that was an actual ring, I was like, oh my God, this is like, it's like bouncing on my bed. Yeah, right. Imperatively to the concrete that I've been landing on since I've been training. I didn't know the difference. It's crazy that we just think about how, you know, like your career spanning from that moment, you know, being going on iBeam and Killer Kowalski's gym in a warehouse.
Starting point is 00:48:17 And now you have a whole facility in Orlando. Yeah. And, you know, that's what people ask me when we first built it. What would Kowalski say? I'd say he would say we made a bunch of pussy. Yeah, yeah. But like, you know, his, his version of, uh, if you did something wrong, you had a bag, a little plastic bag with a knot tied in the top of it.
Starting point is 00:48:35 And he had phone books in it from whatever it was, Waltham or wherever we were that the town that the school was in. And if you did stuff wrong, he'd call you over and he would hit you in the head with the bag of phone books. The bag of phone books. Yeah, out of nowhere. Like, pow! Tell you did it wrong.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Or you could have just told me, I would have, you know, and most times you never saw it coming. Right. I mean, you guys should try to do something like that in your gym where you just, I don't know, cut the heat off. Well, it's Orlando, so probably cut the AC off. Yeah. Yeah, we're back to phone books where you know they make phone books anymore. Yeah, trash bag full of iPhones.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Yeah. He would always do this thing too, where like, you know, when you first learn and you whack your elbows all the time, your bursary sacs will swell up. You see these guys with these big, huge, it's like a fluid. Val Kilmer had that in heat. Yeah, yeah, a huge one, right? Yep. So you get, when you first start, you get those a lot and they're big.
Starting point is 00:49:23 And, you know, if you leave them alone, they drain on their, you know, they fade on their own or you can get them drained or whatever. Gowalski would just either take the phone books. He would tell you, put your hand behind your head, hold it like this and pull your elbow in. And then either whack it with the phone book or just push you, like he would say, stand two feet from that wall and have you stand like this. And then he'd get behind you and shove you as hard as you could in the wall. So you'd smash your elbow into the brick and pop the, oh.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Pop everywhere. It would pop, not pop out, but like pop internally. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? And drain the fluid. And feel wonderful. Yeah, right afterwards, yeah. He's basically a doctor.
Starting point is 00:50:01 So PFT and I are both 34 Attitude Era guys. Do you have, do you feel any responsibility for having like an entire generation go around and say suck it to each other? So you, Sean, I went right around the hall of fame time. Sean and I were, we were all talking about that and saying how interesting of a time that was. And, you know, especially for us, because, you know, we, it just started organically, but when women started showing us the boobs and like the whole thing in arenas and right around that time, there's video surfaced of these kids talking about being suspended
Starting point is 00:50:40 from school for saying suck it. And it was like, oh God, like I, you know, now with a dad with kids and I'm like, oh, it's poor kids. But it was pretty awesome. Every middle school in America had some kid that got in trouble for telling the vice principal to suck it. Yeah. It's a cultural impact.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yes. Yeah. No, you know, and on the flip side of that, it was every Monday and Sunday as football was happening, you were seeing guys do the same thing. And, you know, they'd score a touchdown or they'd sack a quarterback and get up and do the crotch chop and the whole thing. And, uh, yeah, it really was. When you think about that timeframe, rock put words in the dictionary.
Starting point is 00:51:16 We put, uh, you know, mannerisms and sayings and phrases and almost that attitude, Austin, you know, who didn't want to be the guy stunning their boss and flipping them off and drinking beer and over his, you know, unconscious body. Yeah. So do you still every now and then, like maybe after like a good gym session, like just quick suck it in the mirror every now and then. Yeah. Trust me, there's, there are a lot of people on a daily basis that I would like to tell.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we, one time by, it was a bad mistake that we made. We tried to come up with a greeting for our podcast to say hi to us. And we were talking to Lenny Dykstra at the time and Lenny told us to suck his dick. And we said, okay, our podcast greeting is tell us, suck our dicks when you see us. So we have now a bunch of people that come up to us and say, hey, what's up?
Starting point is 00:52:07 PFT sucked my dick. Like in a friendly voice. Yeah. I would imagine that you have people that come up to you and give you the DX. And you can say, wait, what the hell? Like, wait, don't do that. All the, all the time where people will ask to do the crotch job or do whatever it is. And, um, yeah, sometimes it's a funny thing too, because now like unfortunately as we get older,
Starting point is 00:52:27 like a lot of the people that are still doing that stuff or that were in that era or now, like you guys, like they're in their late thirties or something and they've got kids. So they're kids there. And now all of a sudden the dad forgets, like he's with his kid and he's like, hey, can we do the suck it and do the thing. And he's, I do that to you when we first met. And I saw you tweeted it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he's got to suck it, dude. But like super inappropriate. I'm like, dude, dude, your kids, like, I know I did it to you, but like, yeah, they catch a father now. I am.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yeah. I mean, I'll, I will teach my child to suck it. Yeah. Boom. I'm sure I'll have to explain this to my kids. Yeah, of course. What is the oral history of the socket? Who came up with it?
Starting point is 00:53:08 So it's a funny thing. Like the, the DX stuff, a lot of it was rooted in. There was a group backstage called the click, right? And so it was just a group of guys that were together. Myself, Sean Waltman, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash and, and, uh, HPK. We all hung out together backstage. It was really about our passion for the business. We all rode down the roads together in separable, traveled in the same cars.
Starting point is 00:53:33 And all we did was talk about the business and like even Scott Hall, who would get in the car every night and go like, guys, can we just not talk about the business for one car ride? Let's just not talk about the business. But did you notice tonight's show that this, and then we were talking about the business the whole time? Right. So it was based on that.
Starting point is 00:53:53 We used to all, this thing came from Scott. So the Turkish, the Turkish, uh, whatever mafia thing. Yeah, there you go. Too sweet, whatever they call it now, which I hate. It was never too sweet. I don't know how that became a thing. But anyway, um, yeah, that became our thing. So we would all flash it on TV.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Like it was our little insider thing of like, you were all together, right? And do all the stuff. And the second thing came from, uh, when fans would be giving you crap, especially if you're a bad guy, it wasn't the attitude area yet. And we couldn't say negative things. You couldn't flip people off. You couldn't get on them too much.
Starting point is 00:54:31 And you look at guys and go, well, you need to do is focus. Not so much here or down in here, but like right about there. And that became this kind of our thing. And then it just morphed when, when, when they left and we started doing the stuff, uh, with DX, we kind of, Sean and I kind of morphed it into being a lot more aggressive. And then, you know, it went from being aggressive to being cool. And that's when, you know, Sean got injured and left and, uh, kid came back and, and all that.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And, and it sort of just morphed into its own thing. A lot of that stuff just happened organically. It wasn't like we're going, you know, we need as a catchphrase. Right. It was, I mean, honestly, even with Sean and I first doing DX, half the stuff we did was based on us just making each other laugh and not giving a crap. Yeah. Like I'm just going to go out there and do whatever comes to my mind
Starting point is 00:55:27 to get me the most heat. And I don't give a crap where it goes. And, you know, we were getting, you know, every week when we were coming back, Vince was guys, you're going to get us kicked off the earth. I swear to God, I'm going to fire you. Do it again next week. I'm going to fire the both of you. And, but then ratings started to go.
Starting point is 00:55:42 So all of a sudden he was going like, Hey, do that thing. Yeah. Right. You know what I mean? So when it works, it's good and it was getting a reaction. So, yeah. What was your relationship? I mean, obviously Vince is now your father-in-law, coworker, all these things.
Starting point is 00:55:56 What was your relationship with Vince like back then and like the evolution of it? And did you ever whisper in his ear, I could kick your ass. You think it's happening? I don't have to whisper. He knows. He knows. Even when Vince was really jacked. He knows.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Okay. All right. He went for a pencil neck geek. If I can get heat in this promo, I just got it. Yeah. There you go. No. So my relation, I was always fascinated with the behind the scenes of the business,
Starting point is 00:56:22 not just the, not just the in-ring stuff. Like I liked that, but like the, the planning of it. Like I was fascinated with the, so it's almost like, you know, being an actor, but writing the movies is cool too. And how do you create the dialogue and the inner workings and how all this stuff fit together, not just for myself either, but for, like for everybody. And as DX evolved with Sean and I got to spend more time around Vince because of the people that I was around, he would start to ask me my opinion a lot of young things.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I would notice that he would say, what do you think about that? There was one time where we all went to go to a meeting together and I was leaving because I was like the kind of the new guy. Right. And I was going to walk out and he was like, no, no, you're already in this. You come in here and sit down too. You got good ideas. And so he just started to ask, you know, my opinion a lot and we started to talk a lot
Starting point is 00:57:16 about the time that we were kind of getting into the, the upward swing of the attitude era, the, one of the writers of the show, Vince Russo, and the guy that was writing along with him left. I'd worked with them a lot and I knew the dynamic. And contrary to popular belief, he had a lot of ideas. They were all filtered through Vince and other people that made them great, right? Because they were just ideas and thoughts and all these things. So when he left, I went to Vince because it was like in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:57:48 He went to go to WCW in the middle of the war. Good choice, by the way. Yeah. And I went to Vince and I said, hey, I know those guys left. I know now you're kind of doing this by yourself. So I'm going home yet I'll be home. Like I think I had four days off and said, I'll be home for four days. I don't know that much going on.
Starting point is 00:58:11 So if you need to bounce ideas off of somebody or something, I don't know that that's worth anything to you, but I'm just throwing it out. If you need it, I know trying to do all this stuff by yourself can't be easy. He was like, I really appreciate that. And he left, went home like two days later. I was sitting at home, my phone rang and he was like, hey, it's Vince. You got a couple of minutes to bounce some things off you. And I was like, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Sure. And that kind of started it. And then he came to me at TV and was like, did you start coming to production meetings? You know, and I was like, I think that's cool. And he's like, I don't care. Just come to the production meetings. And you know, one of those things where like as a talent,
Starting point is 00:58:49 you have to be the building at like say one o'clock production meetings at like nine or 10. So but look, he's offered that to me. So like I'm leaving the town the night before I'm driving, whether anybody wants to or not, I'm getting there, getting up, getting ready early and going to the meetings. And you know, for a lot of people that was he, why is he in the meetings and all the stuff? But for me, it was more like, ask him.
Starting point is 00:59:14 He'll probably let you come too, but I don't think you're going to get up at eight and come to this nine o'clock production meeting. So feel free. So I started doing that and kind of get in the production meetings. And he and I then had this kind of close bond relationship based on creative. And that was, I didn't even, I had never even met Steph at that point. I think she was in college.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Sounds terrible. But I think she was in college. I'd never even met her. It wasn't until until right around the time that we did the marriage angle. I didn't even know her then. Like we just kind of did this wedding angle was a pitch to get out of a storyline that, that Vince Russo had kind of dropped when he left
Starting point is 00:59:55 and no one knew where it was supposed to go. And, but then that's how we kind of met and started working together. But at that point in time, I had a totally different working, you know, relationship with Vincent and sort of a kind of a growing, creative collaboration between the two of us that's carried over for, you know, all the way through, you know, does Shane ever get jealous? Like you're the true son?
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah, I don't know. No, you know, I think Shane obviously has a, had a big role in the company at that time. And then, you know, things worked out the way he did. And he did his own stuff. And Shane and I get along great. Yeah. You know, contrary to what you read sometimes, we get along great.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Yeah. You know, I just keep my head down and do my thing. Well, I always find it funny because we hear like all the behind the scenes stuff and it's competitive business. And I'm not even saying this about you and Shane, but like you hear about other wrestlers and it is a competitive business. And while you guys are all kind of tugging on the same rope, you're also competing with each other for that shine, that spotlight.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Anyone who's in media, even our company, like that's the same thing where. Yeah. Like you want to cut his throat, even though he's on the same show. He and I are actually a team, but other people, we want to cut their throats. Yeah. You know, I think that that is one of the unique things about the business. Like you can't exist without the other person. Sometimes people read into that too much.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I'll go back in the day and the attitude era. Like we all got along, but we also all didn't get along. You know, because it was very competitive. I mean, very competitive. That's the best atmosphere for success. Yeah. Now that said, like it didn't matter who in that locker room it was. If we were someplace I might be not getting along with this person at all.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I know in the ring together, we're magic, but outside of it, we don't see eye to eye. We might argue on a lot of things, but if somebody else comes along and messes with that person, that's my brother. Right. Right. Right. And I will defend that to the death. So you see that kind of as this odd dynamic in there, but like everybody wanted to be the guy.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Everybody wanted to be in that spot. And it was super competitive. And that's what breeds the best stuff in the business. Trust me, when Rock would go out there and cut a promo, Austin was in the back chomping at the bit saying, let me out there and cut one. And so was I. And, you know, when we'd have matches, we all wanted to be the thing that was the big shine on the card that night.
Starting point is 01:02:29 And that's really when the business gets the best. I think you see that today. I don't know that it's as prevalent today because I think it's a, and I don't mean this as a knockdown. I don't want to sound like the old guy going, the millennials, but they just handle it differently. Right. Then we were verbally arguing about it and going at it, not physically, but like it was obvious. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:55 There was some issues, right? And that was, it was kind of handled differently. You had a problem with somebody in the locker room. You walked up to them and were like, Hey, that, that ain't going to fly. And if they had a problem with it, sometimes it did go to blows and then or whatever. And, but then that would, person would almost become your closest friend because now you've kind of fought over something and you have that weird guy bond. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Right. Weird, right? Like you punch somebody in the face, they punch you in the face and then afterwards you're closer than before. Yeah. And like kind of respect the person. Right. In Vince, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:24 No, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But you know, in, in, it's a funny thing too. In our business, Sean and I laugh about this all the time. The closer you are to somebody, the stiffer you work with them in the ring. Yeah. It just, like, I don't, Sean and I have said it before. Like I, I think I punched him harder than anybody I've ever punched in my life.
Starting point is 01:03:40 In the ring. Right. Just in a match, you know what I mean? It's like, I can hit my, he knows. And laugh about it. Like I, I just almost knocked him out of a cold. I got you that. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Was there anyone in particular that went a little bit harder at you than you would think that they would go at somebody else? I don't think so. You know, I, you know, I was always one of those guys. I like the physical side of the business. Like I like the contact and I like the. I didn't, I didn't like working with certain guys are, are smooth. And, you know, like even, I'll give you Sean as an example.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Sean can work where you don't feel him or Sean can work where you definitely feel it. I liked when Sean and I work because Sean would come at me and I would come at him and it was physical and it was aggressive. I liked being able to feel what I was selling. Um, I didn't necessarily always like guys that were too easy to work with or too light to work with because I felt like it, I don't know, it just felt like it wasn't right. Right. Human body craves contact.
Starting point is 01:04:41 That's what Jim Harbaugh taught us. Yeah, I guess so. And, and so that was always the magic part to me. So I never really thought about it sometimes when, you know, if, if like you're asking, Oh, was this guy being overly physical with you? I have fired back on guys for like, Jesus, this guy, he's battering me. And if like, I'm going to take a couple more of these because a couple of these might be accidental,
Starting point is 01:05:05 but then, uh, you know, it's not an accident. Yeah. And then you got to like, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm a tough guy, but like, you got to light him up and go like, Hey, there's two ways of doing this. Right. I'm not going to just be a doormat here. So I'm okay doing it the other way, but I'm going to, I'm, you're going to get that side of it too.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Right. And usually then it eases up. Yeah. Do you ever look back at some of the looks you had in the past and be like, every one of them? Like, yeah. Which ones? I mean, oh my God, I could say the leather, the leather,
Starting point is 01:05:33 Kangle, that one's pretty bad. That was good at the time. Yeah. I mean, good at the time. We were all wearing Fanny Packs. I know. The Fanny Packs play. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Leather, Kangle, you say the Fanny Packs play today because rocks brought it back a little bit. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Five years ago, you would have been going, what were you thinking? Yeah. Look, we all had horrible hair.
Starting point is 01:05:51 No, the hair was great. You sold out my cut in the hair. I just got lazy to be honest. Yeah. Summertime's get hot. Yeah. But like, there's a lot of stuff that you look at over the years and you think like, there was a moments in there where I got bored wearing black and went to colors for a little
Starting point is 01:06:07 bit. I'm like, I look at that and go like, what was I thinking? Yeah, right. You know, I just get tired of doing the same thing. I suppose like a band, you made 10 albums and then you do one album where it's like experimental. Totally outside the box because you were just bored with your own crap, you know, and you start doing different stuff or, you know, for me,
Starting point is 01:06:23 there's times in the business, especially where there's stuff that people, you look at certain looks and moments. Like there's parts where I look at pictures of myself and I'm like, could I be more out of shape in this? And then I have to think about the picture and I'm like, oh, yeah, like, you know, like I had an injury that I couldn't get. There's a period where I wore that everybody always goes like, what was the weird biker short phase that you went through?
Starting point is 01:06:49 Where I had these black biker shorts. Every guy has it. Yeah. Well, it wasn't though. So what happened was I tore my groin. I was world champion. I tore my groin working with Goldberg, like popped my adductor off. And like without the shorts on these were like some kind of.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Compression shorts. Yeah. But like tech shorts, like NFL guys were like, it took like four people to get them on me because you have to stretch them out and they stick to you inside. Whose job was that? Putting triple H's shorts on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Trust me. Sean has done a lot of things with you. Yeah. But without those shorts, I could hardly walk with the shorts on. I could get through a match. But I couldn't train. I couldn't even like lay down a bench or anything because the, you know, everything core, right?
Starting point is 01:07:31 So anything that would activate my core would pull on my groin. Like it was immensely painful and they take forever to heal. So there's this whole period of time where I'm like one, wearing like these goofy biker shorts with my chunks over it. And then on top of that, I'm like completely like fat, not a shape. And like just like I look at that whole period where I'm like, oh God, terrible. Nothing I could do about it. How many surgeries did you have?
Starting point is 01:07:58 I mean, you've been through so many injuries. I've had quite a few. Like do you have a list of like all the, I mean, I know you tore your quad straight off and you finished that match. I did that twice. Your trachea got smashed and you almost like stopped breathing. Yeah. I mean, would you just have a pain threshold that's inhuman?
Starting point is 01:08:17 Adrenaline is a magical thing. You know, look, I look back at some of that stuff now and this is the kind of stuff that I say, like I have to now tell talent, like I'm stopping the match. Right. And Daniel Bryan and I almost one time, this is a story about Daniel Bryan and I almost getting in a fight at guerrilla position where Randy Orton, who's usually the most hot headed person in the locker room in some level, pulled us apart
Starting point is 01:08:42 because I stopped Daniel's match and he, because he was injured. And Daniel wasn't going to stop the match and he was trying to tell us he wasn't injured, but his arm was hanging and I could see it. And he was telling him he was fine and I called the match. When he came up, he was livid and was like yelling at me about how I finished a match with a detached retina and who's right is it to yours? And I'm like, dude, I finished a match with a torn quad. Like don't tell me anything.
Starting point is 01:09:06 I know the better now. Like just my job, you know, and but we got heated. Yeah. But, you know, in the moment, like people ask me a lot when the quad thing. Because you were in the walls of Jericho with a torn quad. I tore it. We did some stuff. I went out to the floor.
Starting point is 01:09:23 I don't remember how much longer the match was, but Jericho asked me, like, are you hurt? I'm like, yeah. He said, how bad? I'm like, bad. And he said, whispering this to you. I said, what do you want to do? He was like, I was near the table. He said, what do you want to do?
Starting point is 01:09:36 Because he knew we were going to walls of Jericho and he knew it was my leg. And I said, fuck it, Chris, just do it. And immediately regretted the decision when he put me in the walls of Jericho. Yeah. I was begging somebody for coming. Get me out of that thing. Geez. But it's just one of those things.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I don't know if it's just the way I'm wired or if it's an adrenaline. I don't know. But it never dawned on me like, oh, I should probably tell the referee I'm hurt and stop, you know, or same. I did. I did the same thing with my other quad. I did it with my pack in Saudi in the Middle East with Taker and Kane where like I was. That was the Instagram picture.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah. I was, I was doing an upside down bump in the corner. Sean and I used to do this stuff when we were young where Sean would go upside down in the corner and then I'd take a bump over him and I was trying to protect him in the corner. I didn't want to crush him and I just dug in too deep on the top rope. And as soon as I went over, I felt my pecter off. We got to the floor and I told Sean and he was like, oh my God, what are we going to do? And he was going to go tell the ref to stop the match.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I was like, hold on a second. Hold on a second. Let me take inventory for a minute. And Doc came out. Our doc came out because, you know, now it's a different world, right? He'll make the call. So he came to me. He said, what'd you do?
Starting point is 01:10:48 I told him I tore my pack. He said, uh, let me feel it. He put his fingers in. He said, yeah, no, it's off. And I was like, I know. And then he said, uh, you want me to call it? And I said, so let me ask what, what happens if, if, uh, what's the worst that can happen? He said, well, it's already torn.
Starting point is 01:11:04 He said, it's not going to be pleasant. But he said, if you can keep your shoulder in the socket, like then. So your arm close to your body. So I was like, all right. So I said, I'm up. Let's keep going. And he said, I'll stay at ringside. So then I just told Sean, I said, good to go.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I'm going to fight left-handed. And I just, if you watch the whole match, I'm trying to keep my arm at my side. Kane even put me through a table later. And I'm, of course. Of course. I'm trying to keep my arm in because I was afraid when I hit the table, my arm would go out and my whole arm would come out of the socket or something. You know, is this only in the ring that you don't feel pain or if you're out doing,
Starting point is 01:11:41 you know, yard work and you, you know, you hit yourself like with a hammer or something on your finger. I'm rolling his chair on my genitals right now. Just to just feel something. And I don't feel it. Damn, that's crazy. That is crazy. All right.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I have a couple of apologies I need for you. You ready? Yeah. Okay. You fucked over X-Pac when you gave, you turned on him and you gave Shane McMahon, the European championship, which isn't even a real championship. Apologize, please. I'm not going to apologize for that one.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Kid did not want to hold the European championship in the first place. That hurt though. That one hurt. And you went corporate and all that stuff. He was happy for me to get the European title off of him at the time. The coveted European title. Yes. The European title is the funniest thing I did.
Starting point is 01:12:30 He wanted it. Okay. Was that, was that before or after he took a shit in the cup? You'd have to name the time. Is it a pension for that in cups? Yeah. Is it a Dixie cup or just a glass? Whatever's around?
Starting point is 01:12:45 Whatever happens to be in catering. The time he took a shit in a cup and then put it in Sable's bag? Is that true? Rumor. Rumor. Allegedly. Allegedly, allegedly. I mean, I've heard so many stories about so many guys doing so much stuff backstage
Starting point is 01:13:01 that it's just absolutely bogus that becomes this urban legend that is just built up into this ridiculous stuff that like none of that ever happened. I've heard a million stories where, but then I've also heard the guys tell it and then like the guys in the business telling it. I'm like, you're starting to read the stuff that's out there and believe that that's what happened because I was there and that didn't happen at all. Right. Not a cup.
Starting point is 01:13:22 The message board. It was a ziplock bag. Yeah. All right. What about when you paid Rikishi to run over Stone Cold? Yeah. That was fucked up. It was.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Apologies. I do feel a little bit bad for that. Okay, there we go. Delvo, like it wasn't that expensive and it was effective. That was when you came out and like to end basically had the whole crowd just in yours like essentially like on the bad guy, on the guy that you're looking for. Like when you have the booze versus the cheers, I mean, the booze have to feel. Yeah, there was a period of time in that, in the beginning of the attitude era with
Starting point is 01:13:57 with Sean and I, where we had some riots and even when, you know, Steph and I, we'll talk about it every now and then of like, because she was just becoming a character in the business. Like when we did the McMahon, Elmsley stuff and we had like legitimate, like serious heat. I remember one time when we were just getting done the show and we were walking up to the top of the stage and a baseball, I just saw it on the corner of my baseball coming out of the upper deck and it went like straight by her, you know what I mean? And like it would have killed one of us.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Yeah. You know, that's the kind of stuff like, there was a lot of stuff like that all the time then and was still a kind of a wonky area of people buying in the things and all that. But yeah, we had some legitimate heat, but I loved it. Yeah, isn't that like the best compliment that people are actually mad at you? Because they think it's 100% real, which it is. Yeah, I loved it. And then would try to carry it over sometimes.
Starting point is 01:14:55 I'll apologize for that now to anybody that I offended back in the day because I would try to carry it over because sometimes, especially during the attitude area, like you'd go to the airport if I was nice to a kid that came over and like cautiously asked me for an autograph. I was like, sure. And I signed it. It was almost like they were disappointed. Right. Man, I thought he was going to punch me.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Chris Jericho told us that story. Yeah, on the podcast. Yeah, about like just basically just shitting on a kid in Madison Square Garden because he had to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Not letting the kid get on the elevator. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Taking them off. He had to do it. Yeah. And so that was kind of the mantra. And the things were a little bit more freewheeling back then. So you could go to the airport and be an astronaut. To people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:35 And they just were like, well, he's just taking real life. And then you just kind of go on with it. Yeah. The only place I tried not to do that was at home, just because I didn't, like people burn your house or something like that, but you're not in there. Right. Right. Or where you live.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Right. You take to your neighbors. Yes, yes, yes, yes. All right. I got one last question. It is a Seeky question put in promo code take. You get $10 off your Seeky purchase. Go to a WWE match.
Starting point is 01:15:59 I don't know any of that. Seeky, okay. You want to go to a WWE match? Yeah. We can get you in $10 off promo code take. All right, cool. Here we go. The what describe the perfect match, like what goes into a perfect match
Starting point is 01:16:12 and which match in your career is closest to that. Oh, man. So perfect matches to me. It's a difficult thing to say because I don't believe that. Like I'm a big believer in all of the stuff that we do is just stunts. The story is what gets people, right? There's that Maya Angelou statement of like people don't remember what you say. They don't remember what you do.
Starting point is 01:16:37 They remember how you make them feel. I believe that's what's true in our business. It's the emotion of what you do. I think she was talking about WWE. She was. Actually, yeah. The emotionality of it. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:49 So the perfect match to me is something that just builds throughout. And you're engaged in the whole time. And by the end of it, you're almost like emotionally drained. And it's not about, oh, my God, when he did the one. I can't believe they did that double flying, flip him a jigger thing. You know what I mean? Those things to me are sort of they're the moments. That's the really cool dinosaur.
Starting point is 01:17:18 But if the story is garbage, all those other things don't mean anything. And that's why some guys get over and some guys don't. I was taught very early. One of the first things that I learned from Kowalski was make them look at you. And I didn't understand what he was when he was first saying it, right? One time he explained it to me. He said, the last thing you want to do when you leave an arena is have them go, hey, that one match was pretty good.
Starting point is 01:17:43 And have the guy with them go, which one? You know, the one where they did this thing and the thing happened. What you want them to go is, you know who's awesome? Kill a Kowalski. That, right? And the match was awesome. But you know what match was awesome? That Kowalski match.
Starting point is 01:17:59 That's man. What a show. That Kowalski match was off the chart. Then you have them, right? Then you've built something that connects with them and stays with them. Otherwise, it was the Transformer movie. And you go, the one robot looked cool. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Like that explosion. Yeah. Yeah. The special effect was awesome. Yeah. So what is the best storyline that you've ever been involved in? The most compelling storyline? I think that at various points in time, some of the stuff I've done with Sean,
Starting point is 01:18:28 because it was so believably real, because we were so close as friends. And I think you could see that. And then the ability for us to transfer that, but know each other's mannerisms and everything. And also the openness for me to do horrible things to him and then him to get it back on me. You know, the business is the magic when you're trying. In that storytelling process, I've always approached it as a heel of like, I'm trying to outsell the other guy. It's not about the moves I do.
Starting point is 01:19:06 I'm trying to outsell him. So if I'm the bad guy, when I'm getting the heat, beating that guy up, he should be trying to outsell me, get so much sympathy and so much, you know, selling in that people feel terrible and want to see him hopefully come back and beat the shit out of me. On the flip side of that, when it's time for him to get angry and fight, he's got to have that fire and that intensity. But on the flip side of that, now's my turn to outsell everything he just did for me.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And to give that back and then some. So when you approach things in that way, especially because you either believe in the other talent or you like that other talent or you enjoy working with that other talent, when you approach it in that way, man, it's magic. But it's tough. It doesn't always get approached that way. So some of my stuff with Sean, look, the truth is I've been fortunate in my career. I came in a time that when I first walked in the doors of the WWE,
Starting point is 01:20:09 I had a plethora of guys with a massive amount of experience to learn and grow from, from Scott Hall to Brett. You know, I'd get in the ring with Brett a lot to Sean, to Nash, just everybody. And then even guys that were comic wrestlers, like something like the Bushwhackers, but like they had 20 plus 30 years of experience and you would learn from being in the ring with them, all these different things. So you grew from that. And then when it got to be the time when I could could launch myself, I was in the ring.
Starting point is 01:20:44 You know, you look at that era and it's a who's who of the best in the business, right? Like Austin, Rock, Sean, Foley, Taker, Kane. I mean, just, just the who's who of everybody in the business. So I can look at points in time in my career and say, look, I love the stuff I did with Foley. I love the stuff I did with Taker. I love what I did with Sean, Rock, Austin. Like there's so many guys that I go like, man, for me to say like one thing was the best or one thing was my favorite.
Starting point is 01:21:16 It almost takes away, I feel like, from all those things I had because they all contributed to it. And they're all, for me, the best parts of my career. Speaking of that, do you ever get mad when you see like, with your watching sports and they're like greatest teams of all time and they don't list you in Stone Cold? They, the two man power trick, they absolutely should. It's kind of bullshit. The dream team.
Starting point is 01:21:37 You guys were real stock. And it was only cut short by my injury. Yeah. You know, they were, that was going to be a big run. Forever. Yeah, it was going to be a big run and we had a lot of fun doing it. I mean, you guys were badass. It was, it's that and Xbox and Kane.
Starting point is 01:21:52 I love the size of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a cool one. That's kind of what we go for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our whole, kind of, that's your stick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Exactly. Yeah. You know, you talk about this, the, the, the people and the storytelling, like that's the thing I think for me, that's the magic of what we do at NXT, right? Like, so the talent are young and hungry and they're really wanting to do it. And we're trying to teach them all these components of outselling and the emotion. But when you break down what that show is, it's about the storytelling. And I think the storytelling gets to be more succinct and more,
Starting point is 01:22:30 more direct and simpler sometimes. But because of that becomes almost more relatable to people that are the more passionate fans of what we do because we don't have to cater to the casual fans as much. I mean, I think that's the magic of it. When you talk about being the alternatives, we're not, we're not just a stunt show. We're not Michael Bay movies where we're going to just go out there and, and, and put on a stunt fest or give you these action sequences that are crazy. But when you leave the theater, you forget all about it.
Starting point is 01:23:00 When you leave the arena, it's like, yeah, you know, we're going to give you stuff that resonates and sticks with you every week. That was a professional segue right there. That was great. And perfect. And also in NXT. How you pull it, pull it right back around to the end of the match. I mean, you're pro.
Starting point is 01:23:12 You're pro's pro. The more you describe wrestling, the more to me it sounds exactly like first take on ESPN. When it was skip against Stephen A. Smith going head to head. It's like that, that is exactly what they've taken. They've stripped all the physicality out of it and just put two guys at a desk. Take promo class every week for them. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Going at it. Thank you. This has been a dream of mine. Also, I thought you killed Mick Foley when you threw him through the cell. Yeah. You went through the ring. There's a moment where I wasn't sure to. Was that set up?
Starting point is 01:23:42 Now that one, that one was. So the one with Taker was partially meant and partially not. So it was supposed to break slowly. He was supposed to fall through it broke completely and he just went straight through and Taker legit thought, oh my God, I might have just killed him. Right. And then, you know, talk about pain tolerance. Foley gets up and keeps going and, you know, crazy with his tooth sticking
Starting point is 01:24:03 out of his nose and the whole thing. Right. But in ours, in our Hell in the Cell match, that was that was a little bit planned. It was laid out and planned. All right. Yeah. Is that I did think he was dead that time. I was like, well, there it is.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Yeah. Also, Big Cat would make a tremendous referee. Like I was saying this earlier, but like how like he believes everything that happens in front of him. So you're ever looking. Pull me out. Yeah. My legs and like, I didn't see it.
Starting point is 01:24:30 I know you're your VP of talent. Right. This guy, he looks like a wrap. Tell me when. So look. You can step in. You know, we're in, I'll be in Orlando every week now, right? For NXT.
Starting point is 01:24:42 This is another professional segue right back to the two hour weekly show that shoot out of Full Sail University. But that means I'm at the performance center. Come down. We'll give you a try out. We'll see what we do. I'm in. I'm in.
Starting point is 01:24:53 I would be a great wrap. You got a rough spot. And honestly, have you guys been down there? I know. I actually, one of our co-workers, Robbie Fox, trying to do. Yeah. He's going to do a tour. We might be with him.
Starting point is 01:25:04 So as much as like you can come to the show and go backstage and that's cool. And but that's that it's like the show. Right. I guess the difference would be to me, it's like going backstage. Like if you're a Metallica fan, go backstage and and at the show like, oh, that's cool. But if you had the opportunity to go to the recording studio and sit in on like them jamming in sessions and all that, like that's a different environment.
Starting point is 01:25:31 It's the performance centers, the guts of what we do seven rings in there when they're cooking, when everybody's in there and the strength and conditions going and all the stuff is happening. It's crazy like the energy in there. It's it is it's a candy store. If you're a fan of what we do and like the art form of it and the kind of the insides of it, man, it's it's a it's an unbelievable experience. I mean, it's three miles down the road from from full sale. So like if you guys want to come to the show, just come to one of the shows and let us know.
Starting point is 01:26:05 You can interview some people or do some stuff while you're there. Oh, yeah. And we have we have all the setup to do everything you need. And we have a content lab there. We can shoot whatever and you can do it. Yeah, we don't even have one of those. Yeah, you can do it in the performance center itself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:20 But yeah, any time you want to come down and be a part of it and you come to the show that night. Would I have to work out if I was a referee? No, but you do have to run and get up and down a little bit. So you got to be in shape a little bit. I think you can't do you can't. There used to be an old school referee that used to stand up. There's a debate about this. We all say it's Bronco Lubitz.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Michael Hayes thinks it's not. But we're used to stand up and count with his foot. Yeah. Like a horse. He was too lazy to get up and down on all on the false finishes. So he would only get down and count the actual finish. But on the false finishes, he would just stand up and count with his foot. Just pat your belly.
Starting point is 01:26:55 All right. We'll check out NXT USA Network Wednesday night when this airs. You will be on. So everyone watch it. It's going to be on this show. If if you're if you're a fan of what we do, like this is the deep dive, you know, Ron Smackdown or our phenomenal shows with some of the best town in the world, but their general entertainment shows in a way.
Starting point is 01:27:18 And they have to put a lot of things in there. Bell to bell. There's no product like NXT. And we will show that every Wednesday. Love it. Love it. Triple H. Thank you so much. Thank you guys.
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Starting point is 01:30:54 That was like one one boob. It was just no it wasn't it was a callback. It was a pun. Do you know what's at stake though? In what? In what way? The fact that you could be responsible for killing Tommy LaSorta. No, I know I'm not.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Well, I'm not. Even if you listen, if you listen, no. I just brought him back to life though and I know I know but you just I'm just telling you okay be careful be careful what you wish yes be careful okay we won a one game series today life is just a bunch of one game series stacked end to end to end on top of each other so if we happen to beat Tommy I think he would want to go out that way by being defeated by a franchise with such a proud tradition of postseason excellence as the Washington Nationals. We are on Tommy Watch.
Starting point is 01:31:43 It's October. The Dodgers are going to like the odds are that they're going to go to the World Series again. Tommy Watch is on. I'm more concerned that Tommy hasn't said anything about how he's going to die if they lose. That tells me that that he might not be in it as much. Well, no, he's he's got to wait till Thursday for the pump up speech and he might be overlooking the Nats. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:32:04 So well, well, first of all, we got to wait. Can't over look anything at that. Tomorrow to tell him the Nats won and then we'll assess. OK, he definitely doesn't know. He's like Green Day. Wake him up when September is over. I mean, it is officially Tommy Watch season. I have a segment that I didn't tell you about, but I just saw this story.
Starting point is 01:32:23 OK. Our long national nightmare is over. Yes. Kirk Cousins apologized to Adam Thielen for not throwing him the ball more deep on Sunday. So such a beta. So so Virgin Kirk Cousins, Chad Adam Thielen, Chad, Chad, I'm Thielen. I also someone just tagged me in a tweet reminding me of the time that Kirk Cousins did a gender reveal and basically missed the throw from three yards away.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Yeah, that actually happened. That actually one of his better throws. Yes. All right. You have a Saber Metrics PFT. Yes, Saber Metrics. So this happened over the weekend. A Miami Dolphins vendor overcharged an attendee at the Dolphins game by $700 for beer.
Starting point is 01:33:00 So he swiped his card or did like a cash app type transaction on the go. And for two beers, he charged him 700 bucks and the rest of the guy. So it was obviously on purpose because he's like, there's no one at this game. I need to get my I need to make my nut. Yeah. Basically, the vendor was like, I'm not going to sell this much beer. Actually, you should probably be selling more beer to Dolphins fans. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:23 You should be drinking a shitload if you're still out of Miami Dolphins game. Dolphins. The Dolphins do like $1 beer night. I think you're right. I think that team should charge less. The worst the team is. Yeah, like stock market prices. If your team is going to go.
Starting point is 01:33:36 If your team is above 500, you can double the price. If they're below 500, you have to have it. Yeah. If they're 0 and 16, then you should just load up the t-shirt cannon with trulys. Yeah. And just shoot spike seltzers of people tie. I'm not a math guy, but times it by. No, that's their winning percentage.
Starting point is 01:33:53 I don't know. Okay. Never mind. I was going to try to I was just trying to figure out how many games above 500. They are. That's the percentage you're you have to charge. Oh, that's too much math. And then below just do minus a dollar or plus a dollar.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Just just do that one. Yeah. Okay. That's fair. The bank actually flag the transaction. This is a great opportunity, by the way, because there are a lot of people that have been to well, not a lot, but there are at least a dozen people that have been to a dolphins game in the last week.
Starting point is 01:34:17 You can just say, oh, yeah, that $100 I spent on beer. That must have been fake too. Yes. And alert your bank and tell them that. Yeah. I wasn't at that game. Wait. So actually to go back to that, that that is perfect.
Starting point is 01:34:26 $1 for so every game you're above or below 500 is $1 black or red. So if you go if the dolphins go 0 and 15 and their last home game, they pay you for a beer. Yeah. And they pay you like $4 if it beers $12 or yeah, they'll pay you $3 for a beer. Yeah. Yeah. And that's fucking genius has to come out like a table girl in Vegas with the beer with a sparkler on top of it and put it in your hand.
Starting point is 01:34:53 I like that. Why don't they do that? Also, I'm pretty sure every bank in America has something in their algorithms that flags if you spend more than like $50 on concessions at any Miami sporting event, because nobody stays at a game long enough to get there. They're like, is this are you sure? Maybe they're like, hey, this this transaction happened at 1030 at night. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:12 There's no way. Wait a second. This this hot dog and ice cream was not sold in the second quarter. What the hell is going on? Interesting. I'm going to investigate the Florida Panthers. Remember them? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:25 It's like a weird one to throw out there every now and then like the Florida Panthers are a franchise. Yeah. Wait, they still are? I yeah. Do the Florida Panthers exist? Yeah. 10 minutes from Jason from Dutch.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Just darling Jake. That's just that's a whoa. What was that? That's the biggest whoa we've ever had. Hey, think about the Florida Panthers. Okay. The only they had Luongo. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Okay. That's how I know. They also have what's her name? The pop star. She got hit by a puck twice when she was a kid. She has a season take. Me Khalifa Ariana Grande. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Yeah. Sophie Julia, sideline reporter. That's right. They have to be. Could you think of a more like a more forgettable franchise? A whoa. I'm going through it right now. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Atlanta thrashers. But they don't exist. I'm saying the ones that actually exist. That's still in existence. They still exist. Florida Panthers. Whoa. I mean, to put it in perspective, the closest you get in the NFL is the Tennessee Titans.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Yeah. And but that's not that's not even like everyone knows right Titans exist. Whoa. Florida Panthers. Whoa. That's crazy, man. I mean, the rays are in a fucking playoff game. And the Panthers.
Starting point is 01:36:32 The coyotes, maybe. No, because the coyotes biz. Yeah. And also Rafi Torres at scumbag. But Florida Panthers. Whoa. Who are they? What about baseball?
Starting point is 01:36:42 What's the baseball equivalent? It's probably the rays, but they're like decent. So not even the rays. Yeah. It's the Florida Panthers are the most irrelevant. Get your shit together in the history of sports. Have to be. Have to be.
Starting point is 01:36:56 They need a logo change. Yeah, they do. You're right, Hank. They absolutely do. Or they need the beer thing. Just give away beer. Pay everyone to drink beer. I like that too.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Okay. We speaking of our darling Jake PMT Sports Biz Minute. Good morning. This is Jake Marsh with the PMT Sports Biz Minute. The MLB postseason is here. And what better way to start things off than with the 2019 wild card games. Brewers Naps last night while the Raisin A's go at it this evening. And the standard deck of cards you'll usually find two jokers.
Starting point is 01:37:27 These commonly act as the wild card in many card games. But the Joker didn't appear until sometime around the 1860s. That's when the game of Uker was extremely popular. This weekend, Mr. Cat's Chicago Bears head to London to take on the Raiders. Bears became extinct in the UK in the early medieval period, sometime around 1500 years ago. But in the 19th century, gentlemen used bear grease to help cure baldness. This substance was made by boiling bear fat and mixing it with rose leaves and vanilla
Starting point is 01:37:58 to help disguise the smell. Mush that all together and voila! Hopefully the hair continued to come back through. That's your PMT Sports Biz Minute, Mr. Cat and Mr. Commenter. Back to you. Thanks Jake. Very cool. Very cool, Jake.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Very cool. All right. Let's finish up. Guys on chicks, Hank. All right. I'll read the other one that I thought was a guy because we get a lot of these. And it always confused me because I feel like this just wouldn't happen. But I could be wrong.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Okay. Sub dudes, is it a verge move to get my dick sucked? No, it's a guy pretending to be a girl. Like a lot of the, it's a guy pretending to be a girl. Okay. Hey, PMT boys. I was super horny this past Sunday at the point where I told my boyfriend I wanted to suck him dry on the spot.
Starting point is 01:38:38 His response was, can't. It's the witching hour. Is it even worth it to try and get some on Sundays anymore? But I don't think a guy wrote this in. Suck him dry? Definitely. This is a million percent. What girl's been like, I want to suck you dry.
Starting point is 01:38:54 A guy says, I want you to suck. Like I think that's a guy thing to say. She's like, I'm so horny. I want to make you come. Yeah, I don't even know the answer. I mean, no. Sex turn the witching hour? No.
Starting point is 01:39:08 No. Not no fly zone. Also because she was probably really into the witching hour too. I think that crosses spectrums of gender. That's true. Even women, they're like, especially women sometimes. They're like, no, I got to watch Phillip Rivers. He's down a score.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Although with the witching hour this past week, wasn't that exciting? So maybe it was. What's up, boys? Especially Chonk cat. This weekend was my best. This weekend, my best friend is getting married. I decided to check out some of my future brother-in-law's
Starting point is 01:39:35 guy relatives to see if I'd be happy, drunkenly ending up having a one night stay with one of them. Is this a good idea? And do I look like a whore to ruin my reputation with my new in-laws? No, you don't shame. No, this is exactly what every. This is the only way that people ever had sex
Starting point is 01:39:51 before online dating was they would just hook up with somebody at a wedding. And let me give you a little tip. You actually, this is actually your present. Is it his sister? Her sister? No, it's her best friend. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:40:03 She's my best friend is getting married. Oh, our best friend. Because otherwise it would kind of be. Okay, okay. Yeah. Well, that's, I thought that's what it was. I mean, no judgment. But this is actually, this can be considered your wedding gift
Starting point is 01:40:13 because you now give the bride and groom something to talk about so they can be like, hey, can you believe what so-and-so hooked up with your cousin? Like that's, that's invaluable. So you have to do it. And then just be like, that was our wedding gift to give you gossip. And pro tip, the next morning at the brunch,
Starting point is 01:40:32 take separate elevators down. No, maybe date for a while. And then just give me more gossip and then have a really messy breakup. And well, or get married. And then that is the ultimate gift is to tell a couple, we met at your wedding and it was so romantic that we ended up getting married.
Starting point is 01:40:46 We had to do it. Yeah. My boyfriend of one year is fun, but very straight edge. Every time I try to sext him, he just says hot or something lame like that. How do I get him to sext me back? You might be better off not because it sounds like this is, that's his go to move is just saying hot.
Starting point is 01:41:06 And some guys are just really awful at sexting and would just completely turn you off. So just accept the fact that he's not, he's not a wordsmith. You're not dating Billy Shakespeare. He also might have just been ruined by like Anthony Weiner text messages going, you know, viral and shit like that. Like where you see some super horny dude
Starting point is 01:41:25 and his sexting goes viral and you're like, don't ever want to be caught in that situation. Mm hmm. What was that? Hank, you poo pooed that you said, nah. I don't think, you know, if you're, if a guy is a sexed her, they're not going to get curbed off by the internet. They're not going to be like, oh, this guy got caught.
Starting point is 01:41:45 But if he's on the line, if he's like, he doesn't know if he's a sexed her or not. I just don't. I feel like you either are or you're not. Okay. What's your sex game like, Hank? You don't want to know. I mean, it's because the way the way you just missed earlier
Starting point is 01:41:59 made it seem like, no, you got to fire back with some stuff. Oh, yeah. I mean, you're so hot. Yeah. You got it. Yeah. Yeah. It's super hot.
Starting point is 01:42:06 That's hot. That's hot. I just like to do the the hold down and then emphasize, emphasize, emphasize repeatedly on her text message. That's hot. That's like thrusting. Maybe, maybe he's saying it in the Paris Hilton voice. That's why you're just misunderstanding it.
Starting point is 01:42:23 That's hot. Sup, Hank and the bad boys. Recently, it sounds like a band. Yo. Recently, my boyfriend has started openly admitting when he is headed to jerk off. I'm starting to wonder because I'm not always in the mood and he is trying to make me feel bad.
Starting point is 01:42:38 Should I be concerned? It might be what he's doing. Yeah. Power move. Seems like. Cool. Jerk it off of your boss. Jerk it off then.
Starting point is 01:42:47 It seems like that would be something you would use as cover for something worse though. Oh, jeez. Oh, damn. Like every time you say I'm going to go jerk off real quick, he's going into the bathroom and crushing up lines of Sudafed and snorting him. Texting his other family.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Yeah. He's doing meth. Yeah. Oh yeah. He's got a second family that lives in your bathroom and he's feeding them scraps from the table. Hey guys. Look under the toilet.
Starting point is 01:43:11 Lift the lid up and check. So my boyfriend and I have been dating for a few years now and I always seem to be the one planning dates or things to do since he's not much of a planner or a romancer. How do I get him to sometimes plan things or be romantic without me nagging him about it? It's tough. Planning is the worst.
Starting point is 01:43:29 So we're not going to do that. Okay. So here, actually no. From experience, here's the best way to do it. When he does plan something or does something romantic, just overly, overly thank him. Like be like, that was so, so nice. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:43:50 And then you hope that his caveman brain, a light bulb will go off and be like, hey, that was pretty nice of me to do that once. That's really all you got. Or just like name drop that your friend, even if it didn't happen, just be like, oh, my friend from work, her boyfriend did the most romantic thing ever.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Also this guy. Maybe. Yeah. If he's listening pro tip, dude, you don't even have to do the plans. You just have to talk about plans. If you talk about plans enough, that will be enough.
Starting point is 01:44:21 Like if you're just like, hey, we should do something this weekend, flash forward Friday or Saturday, you're sitting on the couch watching Notre Dame, Bowling Green. But you said you were going to do something. That's almost a plan. I like that idea a lot.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Here's what you could do too is you could make a plan and say, hey, I've got this great afternoon planned out, but it's your job to plan out dinner afterwards. So that way he's included. He's part of it, but he's also kind of on the hot seat. He has to do something. And the great afternoon plan is watching Notre Dame, Bowling Green.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Yeah. Yeah. There you go. It's part of my take presented by Bar Stool Sports.

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