Pardon My Take - Troy Aikman, Robert Saleh Fired And Drake Maye Is Starting, College Football Talk And Max And The Phillies Down Bad

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

Robert Saleh has been fired and some are asking if Aaron Rodgers is a coach killer (00:00:00-00:14:56). MNF and the Chiefs are winning another Super Bowl (00:14:56-00:20:46). Drake Maye has been named the starter in New England (00:20:46-00:34:23). We talk playoff baseball and Max is down real bad (00:34:23-00:58:43). College Football talk after an incredible Week 6 and upsets galore (00:58:43-01:15:09). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (01:15:09-01:30:16). Troy Aikman joins the show to talk football, working with Joe Buck, rookie quarterbacks in the NFL, and special surprise appearance at the end from a friend (01:30:16-02:31:03). We finish with listener submitted Pardon Your Takes (02:31:03-02:44:30).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take we have Troy Aikman, three times Super Bowl winner. Good friend with our good friend Joe Buck. Yeah. Great interview with Troy. We're gonna talk some football, Monday Night Football. Also, Robert Salah got fired. So we're gonna start the show with Troy. We're going to talk some football, Monday night football. Also, Robert Sala got fired. So we're going to start the show with that.

Then we have Max's in New York for streams. So we will then have a portion of the show that will be on zoom, uh, talking playoff baseball. So we will get Max's thoughts. We're going to do our college football on Wednesday. We're going to do a pardon your take listener submitted pardon your take at the end, hot seat, cool throne. And it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. The rollercoaster of an NFL season is moving right along and it promises to be a month full of tricks, treats and of course, touchdowns. And DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner

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He's a serial coach killer he's a serial coach killer Mike McCarthy and and He's got he probably would have to I guess too would make him a serious coach Yeah, if you listen if you kill two people you're sure that's true. That's a good point serial coach killer memes Is this what you wanted is Nathaniel Hackett also fired? He's not he's not fired yet. That feels like you got the wrong guy. Yeah, I thought he would go first then Bob But I thought I thought I thought he was gonna get fired if they lost the next three games because they went Vikings Bills Steelers okay, and after that stretch he would have got fired, but they're just cutting ties with him What if Bob got fired because he wouldn't fire Nathaniel

Hackett. That's a fireable offense. I would agree with that, actually. But then they would have fired Nathaniel Hackett still, too. Yeah, no, maybe not, though. Because maybe the worst offense is, as a head coach, the litmus test is, will you fire Nathaniel Hackett? If you say no, then OK, you can't run my friend.

You're clearly not cut out for this job. Also, I want to say one nice thing about Robert Sala, good defensive coach. I wanna say- He always, he never got the QB, and he might not have still had it. We'll see how Aaron Rodgers' rest of the season goes, memes. No, I think he had a QB.

He had a QB, when? He has a QB right now. He has a QB right now, okay. All right, but he never had a QB He had a QB when he has a QB right now. Yes, okay. All right but he never got the QB right, but his defense is always competed and Yeah, maybe he's just a defensive coordinator type of guy. I want to say a lot of nice things about Bob Sala Okay, I don't feel like he is He was not put in a position to succeed and a lot of that has to do with the fact that the entire team just Became Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. And so he just

he looked very frustrated for the last two years. Obviously having to deal with like the roller coaster quarterback last year, and then all the media shit that's been going on in New York, it looks like he wasn't having any fun out there. Yeah, it seemed like the writing was on the wall, we should have we should have paid even more attention. I know you said it was just nothing memes. but the moment when he when Bob Salah went to hug Aaron Rodgers during the Patriots

game and Rodgers kind of pushed him off felt like that was the moment that was bad. Also, do you remember I think this was last March at the owners meeting there was a report that Woody Johnson and Salah got into an argument like in front of everybody. I think the NFL network reported it, and then the NFL, then the Jets came out and said this is bad reporting by the NFL network, and then the NFL network did a split of like we stand by and also maybe things didn't happen the way

that we thought that they happened. I think that they just haven't liked each other for a while. And when you lose the London game, it feels worse. The London game always feels like a firing game Yeah, especially for Woody Johnson because Woody Johnson. He was like the ambassador to Ireland for a while He's got a bunch of friends over in the UK. They were probably at the game. He's like, oh shit I feel I feel like real asshole in front of my friends. You don't embarrass me in front of my friends I got a fire. So I also I don't know if there's anything to this

But a lot of the discourse about like the Lebanon flag on solid arm So I saw that story. Yeah, I wasn't so I know that he doesn't wear it every time But wasn't a thing in the last couple of years where coaches are wearing like where they're like, yeah their heritage Yeah, and and Bella check he would just wear the Croatian thing just on a random day in December Big Dom always has the Italian thing. Yeah, And I think Arthur, Arthur Smith had the Scotland flag. Everybody knows big Scotland guy, Arthur Smith. So I got a, I got another spin zone for Robert Salah, because I know he's probably listening. This actually is like a great time to get fired because it's football season. Yeah. So you get to just watch football and if Aaron Rodgers had not gotten hurt last year There's probably a chance he would have gotten fired last year and then going into this year He would have been like, oh, I got to find a new job because I got to work, you know I'm gonna keep my name out there

He's almost been forced to sit on the couch and watch football and guess what it rules you're getting paid to watch football Yeah, getting fired during the season is great. Actually just getting fired as a coach is, is the best gig you could ever hope for. Yes. College NFL, you get paid money not to work. It's a pretty good gig. And also you don't have to go into work for the jets and deal with the media. I mean, maybe I put like 30% of this firing on the media. Yeah. Probably kind of, we, our hands are not clean in all this so means now that you fired a coach Interim coach is Jeff Ulbrich Jeff Ulbrich. Okay defensive coach great cuz that was

You should just made it hack it and just been like fuck it. Let's run this back I think they should have made it Aaron Rodgers. They should have just done player Well, they could they could have made it hack it and then put an actual offensive coordinator in. Yeah. If you just turn it all over to Aaron Rodgers and say like listen man this is this is your team anyways. Let's just see what you can do. You get 100 percent of the blame 100 percent of the praise if it works out. I feel like you would have done it. Yeah 100 percent. By the way I'm looking right now Jeff Ulbrich he's going to work out. This is now he looks the the gray beard And he's only 47 years old

Jeff Ulbrich is gonna work out because when it comes to interim head coaches you either need a fat guy or you need like an ex-player Hardass he looks like the ex-player hard-ass Linebacker I think he's gonna work out. I got a couple reasons why I think this might work out He has interim head coaching experience in his past. Kind of. He was Dan Quinn's would be interim head coach if Dan Quinn got COVID during the 2020 season.

He looks like a mini Dan Quinn. There's that, and there's also the fact that he's a wrestler. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, lying back a wrestler. Being a wrestler, I feel like is a big, big plus in the interim head coach power rankings that we do. If we figure out what are the attributes that makes a successful interim head coach.

Another big one is if you look up fun facts about Jeff Ulbrich online, you don't find anything. Love that. There's nothing fun about this guy. He's not a fun guy. All his fun facts are like he has a family. He has relatives. Fun fact. He likes football and he has a family. Yeah, he has relatives fun fact He likes football and he has a family. This guy's gonna work out memes. Yeah, I think he made the right choice

He's gonna get people running through a brick wall I think so and then if the offense magically just works out to that would be awesome I don't think that's gonna happen. But um, so where where are you at for like this was a little shocking I didn't I wasn't shocked that he was fired. I was shocked that he was fired this quickly. I thought he would maybe get a couple more games then you find the bye week and then you fire him but there's like no fuck it let's just fire him right now. What how are you feeling overall is this a positive or negative? So I think it's a positive but I do feel kind of bad for Robert Salaar.

No, you can't. Not in this business. Only because Aaron Rodgers' Achilles is the main reason why I got fired. No, no, no, no. Disagree. Well, if Aaron Rodgers doesn't tear his Achilles, I would imagine Robert Salaar would have gotten fired last year when the Jets, when Aaron Rodgers is old and everything's falling apart and then they don't make the playoffs. I think you're right. But you get an entire season's worth of Aaron Rodgers and you could see how he dealt with that instead of just got it. Got it. I see what you're saying now. It does feel early and it doesn't feel like Woody Johnson

doesn't fire head coaches in the middle of the season. It's just like a new thing for him. So it feels early It feels like a panic move also probably makes a little bit less likely that Devante Adams your Prize possession that you've had your eyes on Devante Adams what I was reading some some rumors to find the Adams of the Bills. Oh I don't know if it makes any sense. How's that work out with the Ravens? I don't know also how it makes any sense. Well, as you know, Edgar Allan Poe lived later on in his life in New York State.

And that's the only team that play in New York State. I don't know how it would work with the Cap or any of that shit, but it was interesting. Memes, I am, this sucks a little bit because I wanted forever for Aaron Rodgers to tear down a franchise and he came so close with the Packers But now he's on the Jets and he's just doing that to New York You realize that's what's happening though, right?

We can't really tear something down. That's already torn down. That's a fair point true That is a very point. True. That is a very fair point, but there was the expectation of it existing and then it just absolute gone to dog shit. He basically went in a guy getting hit in the nuts over and over and over. He showed up, got the guy a cup and was like, you're safe now with me and then just took a sledgehammer and hit him in the cup and smashed everything. I would say it's like it kind of along those lines if a guy was getting hit in the balls

over and over Aaron Rodgers came in he goes don't worry I'm gonna fix everything and then he just cut your dick off. Yeah the guy he doesn't hurt anymore. So now yeah now you don't have a dick. You can still get hit in the balls. Theon Greyjoy? Yeah. That's memes. Reek? Memes is befuddled by everything you said to them. Yeah, you got a little reek in there. This is a lot for memes to process. This is fucked up. But memes, I would have thought that this was...

I've seen a lot of dysfunctional franchises in my day. And this is just like... I don't think it's anything to be happy about if you're a Jets fan because it's just like, oh shit, we're just gonna keep doing the same thing and we have no stability. Yeah, it all comes back to the owner, really. And it's just also, Nathaniel Hackett might have more power now. That's the scariest part about this. If you're Nathaniel Hackett, you are terrified right now. You're like, oh shit, I have to stick around? It's like, you're a mess, you have to clean it up.

Well, maybe not because Roger seems to like him. and that's really all it takes to keep your job You think Nathaniel Hackett's like Rick? Yeah, I think he's more of a reek and then Aaron Rodgers is more of Greyjoy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what do you Johnson went on? No, they're the same person, right? Oh, he joined the Right who's it? Oh, enjoy Ramses Bolton Ramses Bolton Ray Drey term's reek Yeah, what Woody Johnson went on? The news I don't know if it was Fox News or she and the news And said big and news. This is the best jet steam of all time since he's purchased. When did he say that? That was before the season. Oh, so his expectations are kind of like my expectations and

Some people may say I'm delusional But that's fine So I was waiting for something else there, but okay, so when that fails and you start off the season two and three Yeah, he's getting cooked. I like to get them onto Adams is all forgiven well because of Woody Johnson We're not going to get the bond. Yeah, son reddick's not going to sign how? Everything comes back to the owner Got it. Joe Douglas has no power. Joe Douglas was friends with Robert Salaugh

This came from the top It's trickle-down sucking Trickle-down suck your down sucking. Oh, yeah, Nancy Reagan would be a big fan of those things huge huge All right, so other story before we get to play off baseball. Yeah, I do have a question for you guys Would you rather if you're if you're Bob Salah, would you rather get fired in England? Or would you rather get fired after you come back to the United States and then you have to go into work? And then you're sitting in your office. You already started work and then the owner comes home. I'd rather I'd rather get home I think I'd rather get fired overseas

No Because you gotta go then you got to fly back on your own and you got to tell your family and all that stuff You'd rather get fired in person like you have to wake up early Go to work get fired and then leave or just get like a text call or email. Yes, it's good It's could have been an email. I would rather get fired in England and just go on an epic bender over there Just be like fuck it. mean, I assume he would not Yeah, I mean, I think he has like a bunch of kids. Yeah, no, I'm saying me. I'm saying you Yeah, you rather go a lot of kids. I would rather he's got like a shitload of kids. So many

How many kids do you have? I think 11. Yeah, are you serious? Not doing a bender there was that report he was getting his house fixed and everybody was just staying in a hotel Yeah, he tells his kids dad. Hey guys dad's going to England for a work trip. He'll be back soon Seven seven never comes back seven is just as close like once you get over five. It's it's like you're gonna be like doing a TLC show Okay, so I would rather go home though Just because I wouldn't have to deal with because then you if you go on an epic bend or then you have the hungover flight home where you're like fuck I like actually facing the fact that you got fired and you just never go home. You're like I'm an England man now for the rest of my days.

Yeah, I would want to go home. All right, so other Monday football, the Chiefs are back they never left but that was the best the offense has looked in a while Patrick Mahomes I think threw for two over 200 yards in the first half they also are doing just we've said it before we've made the parallels to the dynasty Patriots but what the Chiefs are doing is very dynasty Patriots asking that. They have shifted their defenses elite. And now they also are adding in the fact that they got guys like Juju Smith-Schuster and Kareem Hunt

and just making them good again. It's because they know what Kansas City is. So they just get back in the building and they're like, oh yeah, I remember, I'm good at football. It's crazy because there was... So Solik tweeted that it's been uh, 1366 days since uh, juju smith schuster Had uh over 130 yards, uh, that was the most game since he had the 2021 wild card game and then it had been Uh 1422 days since kareem hunt had gone over 100 yards rushing

Yeah, I feel like they're just throwing back to guys Who are good four years ago? the Chiefs can take anybody any player that's been on the roster in like the last ten years and Bring them back and then they'll just be good again. It doesn't matter like Shady McCoy Yeah, you could tell me Shady McCoy would get signed tomorrow. Yeah, I'd be like, yeah He's probably gonna get 60 yards receiving. Yeah, and so also their offensive line I don't think it gets lost sometimes because they have Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey. They've got superstars. They've got a great defense. But the chiefs offensive line is really fucking good.

Yeah. Well, they keep getting injuries. So, yeah, and then a couple last night. But they're still. Yeah. They just keep pushing you back. No, they basically just, you know, change the whole team over and they've they've lost some really good players in in in the shuffle of it had to let go of guys had to had to let guys walk for money more money, but our trade guys and they it doesn't matter They're just really really good and they're gonna win the Super Bowl again And we just all have to to come to grips with that as for the Saints We might have gotten ahead of ourselves. Yeah, it looks like two games into the season You can still feel good about that. You can just close your eyes, drift back to that world, go back three weeks ago and just

be like, yeah, we might be the best team in the NFL. Or it turns out that you played against the Panthers. Yeah. You played against the Panthers and then you beat the Cowboys. You might not be good. Derek Carr also, is he trying to break a record for highest balls thrown? That pass that he threw was sick though. He did a couple where he just, it it was I don't know what he just put

So much air on it's crazy I think that one he had to where he got the oblique injury He said that he hurt himself when he threw it not when he got hit or not when he hit the ground So he fucked up his oblique. They couldn't shoot it up. He's gonna try to play I think but he's a tough guy I don't think he's ever missed a game due to injury But on that one play it might have been the highest ball of the year and he dropped it perfectly in the bucket It was a very hard catch so the the receiver didn't come down with it But yeah, the Chiefs you had a cool play last night or the Saints had a cool play last night

Yeah Maybe the best play where they had Saunders that made that interception in the end zone big boy big boy 320 pounds tuck in the ball care. he switched the ball to his outside arm. He looked awesome. And carried it down the field. That was a great, great play. And the fact that he wears number 50. Yeah.

I think that makes him look so much faster when he was returning. I was like, is that a linebacker? Well, it's also the fattest number. Yes. Well, I would say 50 is a linebacker number. But it's also the fattest number on a fat guy. It looks because it squishes. Yeah, it squishes, makes him look fatter, but it also makes him look faster at the same

time. He was fast. Yeah, he was. He was 17 miles per hour, I think. It's crazy. It looks cuz it squishes yet squishes makes him look fatter, but it also makes him look faster at the same time He was fast. Yeah, he was he was 17 miles per hour. I think it's crazy. So yeah chiefs are just Do you see it Hank? Do you see it watching the chiefs? You're like, oh, yeah, I've seen this before Yeah, I hate it. It's it's they're like Oh Patrick my homes. How's he gonna get out of this one? Oh It's like picking up these trash wide receivers that were bad for other team like to dismiss your stir weapon Yeah, he was horrible always guys do they running like a million they pick up whoever they want and they're gonna be good Yeah, it's like a lot of men Andy Reid He gets bored sometimes with with just beating teams regularly

So he has to run the play where he's doing like Travis Kelsey with an RPO Inside the five yard line which worked. Yeah, and he does I mean Travis Kelsey's rugby pitch that he had was awesome That was a perfect rugby play. It was a pin and pass He caught the ball attacked the defender waited for two defenders to commit to him and then threw it out sideways It's beautiful to watch when it works Yeah, and Travis Kelsey has been he's been on that longer than I have the the downfield laterals Like he's been doing that for like seven eight years in the league But it's a perfect play and when it works because the defense collapses on the ball carrier

You got a guy on the outside and when you have a guy that can throw it like that toss it underhand That went like probably 12 yards in the air. It's a it's a beautiful play and more teams need to start doing it Yeah, it was uh, they're just They just find ways and they're better than everyone and we just have to all deal with it because now this year It's different than last year where last year they were showing struggles is like, oh now they're gonna have to go on the road This year they have not been super they started being super explosive last night for the first time offensively They started being super explosive last night for the first time offensively. Mahomes looked not at his best, but they're 5-0 and it feels like their best is coming. So watch out for that.

Yeah, I can hold two different thoughts in my head at the same time when I watch the Chiefs and that one is we are very lucky to watch this team because this team is awesome. They're so fun. And then at the same time, I'm like, enough. Enough. Yeah, let somebody else have a turn. Yeah, right. But still, I'm like, yeah, this is great football that we've never seen before. Yeah, exactly. It's, it's crazy. Chiefs are just, they're just that much better than everyone. Alright, so we're gonna take we're gonna do some playoff baseball, we're gonna bring on Max, we're gonna be in on zoom for a second. And then we're gonna do some playoff baseball we're gonna bring on max we're gonna be in on zoom for a second and then we're gonna do some college football talk okay before we get to baseball we have breaking moose that that might be the best cow he's ever done. That is a very exciting cow. Sounds like a cow who has a new quarterback.

Drake May is going to start pretty much everything Hank said was wrong. There was a mutiny. They call that wish casting, I think. Yeah. Just say what you want to have happen. Yeah. Like the coach throwing a challenge flag on a replay where you know he's wrong. Hank, you are going to watch NFL football on Sunday with a new quarterback and we're wearing the throwbacks, which is exciting. Wow. Wait, what kind of throwback?

The red throwbacks. Oh, the real throwbacks. And you're playing the Texans. That is not as exciting. So, um, no, it'll be fine. I watched my rookie quarterback go against Texas. It went great. Yeah. I went a bad offensive line too. They don't really like the quarterback that much. Oh boy. Yeah, that's it. That's an interesting move. But I mean, I guess, you know, it's exciting. It was a mutiny. It was a mutiny. And then there's reports I saw. We're seeing you say that there's, you know, people in the league saying he should have been starting the whole time. Do you say you saw a Rossini say that or you saw a Rossini? I saw a Rossini.

Rossini. Okay. I mean, we're going to talk to Trey Aikman about it, about starting rookie quarterbacks, but that was my point when I said it on Sunday. If your whole idea is that you can't start them behind this offensive line, that means you can't start them behind this offensive line. That means you can't start them this year. And that's crazy. So you got to start them. And now we are. And now I listen now you get this is fun though. Oh yeah, we have the the Patriots bear. I think it's Patriots

Bears Patri or Bears commanders back to back weeks. It's wild. Rookie quarterback. So now, but dude, Hank, this makes your Sundays exciting now. You'll be here every Sunday for the kickoff. Yeah, I'm scared. Or yeah, I can tell you're not excited about this. You're scared? He's scared. Why you can't live scared? Don't be scared. Anyone can hurt at any time. Don't be scared. Rookie quarterbacks end up being great and then they make you happy all the time. You could roll your ankle walking off a curb. Yeah, I mean I'm excited. We're gonna probably get, no, you know what?

We're gonna shock the world. It is crazy. Like Hank, even in your position, if you know that the season's not gonna work out well in the long term, having a rookie quarterback is fun. I wanna see jolt out of you. Yeah, this is the- Are you dead? Yeah, I think he honestly- I think he's dead as a sports fan. I think he wanted Drake May to never play. Yeah, just- So he could be like, well, we have Drake May. It's hard to get excited watching this team's, I guess maybe Drake May will fix everything.

Drake May is going to fix everything. He's not going to fix everything. But you get to see a rookie quarterback. That's the whole's gonna do Hank. He is I and listen, maybe this is presumptuous of me to make these wild predictions. I do think Drake may will try to throw to a wide receiver. That would be fun. Yes time. Yeah. Right. So that would be fun. That would be fun. Yeah.

I mean, if we can beat the beating, the bears would be fun beating anyone would be fun. Why'd you say if we can beat beating the Bears would be fun beating Anyone would be fun. Why'd you sing elect the Bears? Yeah, what the fuck we just said it's coming up I don't think we're gonna beat the Texans. I'll say that now with that attitude, right? Maybe you guys wear the letterman jackets this time Should we you should be if the Patriots beat the Texans we should release the t-shirt. Oh Yeah, we should release the t-shirt. Oh Yeah, we should the Drake may hang Henry Lockwood t-shirt. Yeah Yeah, I don't think we can because of Drake may but I guess we mean you guys are gonna release it at some point I don't it's insane. But I

Feel like this would be cause to do it, right? I'd never wanted to get released I think it's a crazy t-shirt to ever even be made But I know you're gonna release it at some point So I'd rather you just actually like the idea never releasing it just just holding it over Hank's head Like maybe we'll release Hank. You should be excited This is not what I expected out of you. Um, what did you expect? I it's a rookie quarterback starting is an exciting thing when your team stinks. I I, it's a rookie quarterback starting is an exciting thing when your team stinks. I don't think it's going to make our team stink that much less. Yeah. But he looks good. You're looking at this in the wrong perspective. He's not going to save your season. The Patriots

aren't going to win a Superbowl this year. They're probably not going to go to the playoffs this year, but you have a rookie quarterback drafted what? Third overall, third overall pick But you have a rookie quarterback drafted what? Third overall? Third overall pick starting for your team. You know what Hank's problem is? His tolerance has gotten too high. His tolerance has got too high, where he's had all these championships.

He was on the float in the parade. He got to be the keeper of the lighthouse. Now the things that should make a normal sports fan happy, like seeing their first round quarterback start a game, that doesn't even register on the scale for Hank. I also think he just doesn't. So it doesn't matter. The team is irrelevant at this point in this, in this season. Okay. The team is irrelevant. What's relevant is that you just need him to look like good and progress. That's where the excitement comes

from. Like I saw Mitch had a bad first start. Do you remember Justin Fields first start against the Browns? That was the worst first start ever, but it was still exciting to be like, Ooh, maybe next week. Yeah. And then you just like, you see like two good throws in that first start and you're like, Oh, we can work with that little steps forward and you get excited about the future. That's what it is.

It's a future. It's not that now it's the future Hank pick yourself up it's a future the future yeah you don't believe that you don't excited all your I think you're bummed out this is the only thing that could possibly make this season exciting for you is to put Drake may it beating the Bengals was exciting when you first came the year was excited I think hey you're almost all the way almost back in sidebar. I don't think Hank believes in Drake man. No I don't think so. That's why he's afraid to watch him. Right. That's bad. Heavy balls. If he if he believed in him he would be pumped. You guys under. I mean I guess it is. People are going to

be mad. Our team sucks sucks our advice that's all Back of all time Tom Brady could be the quarterback this team, but most of the quarterbacks are on shitty teams CJ Stroud shitty team Most rookie quarterbacks are on sheet teams about watching them and being like that was a nice throw. Oh, that was a nice play Oh, he's getting better. Oh, we just won a game with him. Oh, there's Oh, he's in the wide receiver. See if Hank truly believes in his guy, he would be pumped to see this because he would watch Drake may think and he was going to do something awesome. And then he would know he doesn't he doesn't believe in him. You don't believe he's gonna do anything. He doesn't. He doesn't have that excitement. I'm

excited to see I'm excited to see. Yeah, listen Listen, it's also like you want him to start now because if he is good and he's the guy next year is like, then you build up. Whereas if you did the Henry Lockwood strategy of keeping your quarterback in a bubble wrap and never taking him out, you would just be starting fresh next year. Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady, Jordan Jordan love like people don't start their first year and they're guys I guess Patrick Holmes too shit but that's not all I don't think it's crazy to be like it's not a the worst thing in the world if he doesn't play that much as first year but those guys also wait hold

on I know what my response was those guys also had Hall of Famers or Alex Smith not a Hall of Famer but but, and I guess true Hall of Fame person, really good quarterbacks in front of them. And that's why they didn't start. Not because they had Jacobi Berset, Aaron Rodgers had Brett Favre, Jordan Love had Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady had Drew Bledsoe, Patrick Holmes had Alex Smith. Those were good quarterbacks there. They were starting for a reason. Not Jacobi Berset.

Fair. That was good. I reason not Jacobi Berset. Fair. That was good. I recovered that. You don't even care. He almost had us. But he doesn't even care and it goes down to a lack of belief in your guy Hank. Are you upset at yourself because you were in the camp of don't stardom and if you had been in the camp of stardom today would be feeling vindicated. What? I'm just I opened up my my group chat from my friends from home to see what the what the feelers are and One Mayday all caps. That's good. Well, you got to come up with a better name. Mayday is actually a bad thing That's what you say right before it

Yeah Hate the move. He's not ready. Oh line can't stop a beach ball. We have no weapons when he doesn't play Well, everyone's gonna say he's Drake Mays Mac Jones 2.00. You're paying Jacobi to get beat up and let make develop. That's what we are making the playoffs. So why put weight? Drake's main harm's way. Kind of true. Hank, look at the schedule.

Jacobi's slower than God, Washington O-line not great. Chicago O-line not great. Yes. Those rookie QBs are fine. Facts. That's true. Jacobi Berset, like Saks are partly on the quarterback and holding on to the ball too long.

And also, like, no one, if you, if you watch them, no one was expecting Jacobi Berset to throw the ball with any type of like, oh, he's gonna burn us for like a 15 yard out or something. The defenses were all just standing right at the line and just like your own line is gonna look better with Drake May behind behind center. The Oh, hey, oh, memes, hater memes just went like this. Oh, man, Hank, here. All right, here's what can get you excited. Okay, Texans game probably not gonna go great. Jaguars game probably didn't go better than what if you beat the Jets at home? What if you beat the Jets at home?

Now we're talking. Patriots are one in 10 since the lighthouse has been built at home. What if you beat the Jets at home now we're talking Patriots are one in 10 since the lighthouse has been built at home. What if you beat the Jets at home Hank Hank how excited would you be if you get to memes will probably try to throw a punch at you but I will do my best to be there to catch that punch Hank also think about this even if you don't beat the Texans every good throw that Drake may makes in that game is going to bum memes out. Yes He's gonna be like shit. He's got another good quarterback and my team is just firing everyone. Do you remember the preseason?

we were about to go I think we were about to set up for maybe dugs or something and Memes was like slow and I was like, what are you doing memes? And he said I have to watch Drake made to make sure he's not good Yeah, you have memes on the ropes true, but David Andrews is out for the season see and he was on the road Yeah on the road fight back against when you got me just talking about No, David Andrews use memes no one on on the line go after memes He's right about David Andrews, but I if we can again I said that in the year beat the Jets beat the Dolphins beat the Bills Yeah, when rivalry games beat the Bears well rivalry games. Yeah beat the Bears What are you doing?

Memes you're scared. Drake may is gonna be good them to you're scared Drake may is gonna be good He's not he might be good. Oh, yeah, but oh he's scared I don't know if you believe he's gonna be good, but you are definitely afraid you have to be afraid You have to respect the thought that he might be good. You're 100% afraid that he could be good 75% He could be good, but no offensive line could break him. Yes, but they could probably get a new offensive line Can you get a quarterback? That's 20 years younger No, but in my experience with no offensive line it's very hard to fix. It takes years. Unless you have a

younger quarterback that can escape that. Yeah who can move unlike a 40 year old quarterback who's a coach killer and one foot. Do you remember that one time? Oh this is alright so this is what we got to do to get Hank up we got to bring memes down. It's all about that's what it's all about for page if you can't get excited because you're not going to win super Well this year I get it standards are a little bit higher in Boston. It's like championship or bust But if you're a Patriots fan, just think about how sad is gonna make your enemies What did it take to get Hank's swagger back? It took shitting all over memes? Yeah You can you can snatch the future Swagger back it took shitting all over memes. Yeah

You can snatch the future Island you're getting your swagger back. I mean you you don't need to get your swagger back You had summer of Hank like two days, but think yeah think about all the Jets fans all the shit They talked when they got Aaron Rodgers Guess what if Drake may goes out there and lights it up this weekend You can just laugh at them be like look what you guys sold yourself on and look what I got And hey the fuck out here's another thing if Drake may turns out to not be good It's not like PFT and I are gonna laugh at you because our guys are good Yeah, but that again we didn't have the choice so yeah, yeah No, but what if Bo Nicks and JG McCarthy are also good that then would have Michael Pennix

JJ McCarthy are also good that then would hurt Michael Pennix That would hurt. I mean, yeah, I would imagine Spencer rattler. That's a rattler. He's probably gonna be good Do you think this is because they're wearing the throwbacks and if they like win they're gonna sell a shit ton of Drake made Right, you're absolutely right Because why would you do it against the Jaguars? Let's see whose line is it anyway? Did it change seven? It hasn't changed has not the two times straight Mays worth zero points. That's fair. He's a rookie that means he should been starting Yeah, yeah, I Think every time I see the Patriots throwbacks who I just think of that game against the Titans was that the snow game You remember that quarter Hank so touchdowns the first half go mega max on the on the Patriots this week put him in the

Hunger dog. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Believe. Believe. Mayday. Mayday. Mayday. Mayday. Smash the button. Mayday. I said all aboard the Mayflower. That's what it's called. Oh that's good. Yeah that's good. That fits in nicely too. Yeah. Plymouth Rock. Yeah that's good. Yeah, that's good. All right. Let's kick to ourselves for some playoff baseball talk with Max. Okay, playoff baseball. Max is in New York for the streams. Max, would you like us to start with the Phillies or we could end with the Phillies? It doesn't matter. Is that? Well, I don't know which way you're the producer, Max. Why doesn't it matter? Because it doesn't matter. I don't know why you guys, I got onto

this zoom call and you just keep saying my name like that. You've never done this before ever. And for some reason today you decide that it's a good time to start doing this. It sounds like the breaking news cows saying that Philadelphia lost. Yeah. No, but it sounds like it's not even it's like a cow that's dying. Well, I guess the Phillies are dying. Yeah. Listen, I want to be fair. I agree with Max.

He makes a good point. This series isn't about Max. It's not. But I do think that Max should start out. Yeah. Okay. So Max, the Phillies, are they dead? Yes. So it's over. Yeah.

All right. So that was the Phillies Mets series. Yeah. I don't know. I think they're dead and then they win. So that's why I got to think that they're dead. I had hope coming into today and then they died. I had hope going into game one and then they died. And I thought we were dead and then we arose in game two for a little bit. So right now I just have to assume death. Yeah. Well, your guy who is actually the Grim Reaper, Nick Casalano's did have a good quote. What was that noise? I think that's my computer. Computers updating Nick

Casalano's. This is as close to death as we're going to get as a group. So in a way it should make us feel more alive. There you go. That's you. That's you. I don't know what the fuck that means. What do you mean? They're close to death. When you're as close to death as you could be, you're also the most alive. Yeah, it doesn't really make sense. Well, Al Pacino told us different. Well, that's coming up. Not to get out of order. Yeah. So I max every year of a near death experience. When you

have a near death experience, you come back rejuvenated. Anything's possible, you wanna maximize your time. Maximize. Let's do this, Max. Shut up. All right, I got a couple questions for you, Max Rehurst. One, one, can you explain the hands on the ears,

like a little five-year-old with a fire truck going down the street move that you do when things go bad. I don't know. It's just like I don't want to hear people cheering around me because I'm with a bunch of fucking Mets fans and it's like a panic. It's like, oh no, this is bad. It's happening. Yeah. And I don't, I don't know how to explain my actions in these times. And you want me to explain it. I don't know what I'm, I don't know what I'm doing.

It's very adorable. It's, it's great. It's nothing. Especially when you're, when you're sitting baby style and you put your hands on your ears. I love it. Yeah. It's so, so cute. You really are like, Oh, here comes a fire truck and it's super loud. Everyone put your hands on your, on your ears. Oh, it's 4th of July. It's not even the real fireworks. Someone just let off like a Roman candle hands on your ears. It's like in something about Mary when you won't let anybody touch his ears. And then Ben Stiller comes at the end. Got your baseball. Yeah. Okay. So that was question one. Question two. Um, what are the vibes in that room? Tough, bad. It's just like, I don't, it's just like assuming loss. Like the Mets, the Mets and the Phillies are just completely opposite teams. I thought that the Phillies were tough on Sunday. I don't know. This, the Phillies are soft baseball team. The Mets are a hard

baseball team. They're a tough baseball team. They come back from things and the Phillies are soft baseball team. The Mets are a hard baseball team. They're a tough baseball team. They come back from things and the Phillies just don't the feel like they just die. Yeah. And tomorrow tonight got mentally dominated at the plate that so that was one of that. That was the moment that the game. Oh, I texted you that. Yeah, I was texting Max. I was like, this is the inning and you had two, you had a leadoff walk from Schwaber, then another walk, two men on, no outs, Bryce Harper up, perfect time and he went three, three swings. Crumbled. Three swings strikeout and the last one that he had was maybe so bad. Feeble attempt I've ever seen to hit a baseball in the playoffs. And then the next, and then the next batter, it sucked. Cassianos hit that baseball in the playoffs. And then the next and then the next battered suck. Cassianos hit that ball in the

screws and we got doubled up. There's nothing you can do. Hit a line drive right at someone. It was in your night. Yeah. It was your night and and Noah, he like you thought it was going to be a bad night for him. Uh when Alonzo hit the

home run and whatever it was the second inning. Uh but he settled down. the, they probably, I don't know if they kept him in. He was not, he was what, like 80 pitches? So like you had to keep him in. He just always does that. He looks like good for five innings and then you put him out for another, for the six and not everything crumbles. Yeah. Cause he was, he found his groove. But he just was walking everyone. Yeah. He found his groove where he had like what? Seven eight strikeouts. He had eight K's. Eight K's and five innings.

Yeah. But he just, uh, that was tough. So in the Mets, credit to the Mets, they are, it just, we said it for last series, they just have that team of destiny feel where every big hit, every big, like they got, they got guys just stepping up in the right spots big strikeouts they just kid I don't know what it is it's just you you have that feel and the other team that's got that feel right now is the Padres I would say where it's like should be shut up Hank well the Padres do have that feel though where they just keep getting big I mean it's a home run every night. It's like Padres. Yeah. In a weird way, the way the Padres lost game two was almost better because it's like

they were just never in that game. And or no, he was one game one. That was the one where Machado threw the ball at the dugout and then everything went nuts So they started throwing all that shit on the field. I love they want every hell mad the Padres make the Dodgers That's why I love this series. I want this series to go back to LA. I'm rooting for San Diego I think that they're the most fun team to watch in baseball right now They've got like a great combination of guys that don't give a fuck and are also simultaneously really really good So our friend Ryan Spader just tweeted this out. Pretty incredible. Fernando Tatis is batting at a clip where he's, he's got a 1.506 OPS.

He's homering in 12.2% of his plate appearances during his career, the postseason. He's the all time postseason leader in batting average OBP on base percentage, slugging OPS and home run percentage amongst people that have at least as many plate appearance as he does. So he doesn't have a ton of plate appearances, but he's really fucking good. And he's also excellent at making people angry. Yeah, he's pissing everyone off and that's like, that's what it feels like. It feels like the Potters and the Mets have the have the team of destiny the Indians sorry, the Guardians and the

Tiger series has been awesome because it's been great pitching and Scoobal do you have a Scoobal you need a Scoobal max Scoobal? I would trust with my life Yeah, we had a school that went seven seven scoreless on Friday and then we brought in a bull or a bullpen that just got fucking shelled the second he came out. Yeah. So yeah, we have a fucking scoobal scoobal on Monday. That outing where he was like, there's just something about a guy who's shoving and he's reveling in the moment. And he's like, he was almost like, like whooping up the crowd to get louder. And like every big strikeout or double play it was just I love it

That's the best part about playoff baseball like big home runs and aces that shove those are the two things They all just fucking give it to me all day every day. I also love how Tigers are to go back to the yeah, they should They do Shit Sorry, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make that about the Phillies. No, no. It's okay. You asked.

I did. Take it back. You asked. I asked. My only note from the PODs game is that John Smoltz is everything that Tony Romo wishes he was. He's so good. John Smoltz sucks. Good note. No. John Smoltz is elite. He knows every pitch that's coming. He calls it out. And he's I agree with Max. Hank doesn't know ball. I think I like John Smoltz.

I like him as a pitcher. He's he's confidently wrong more than we are, which is saying something. Well, yeah, but he's John Smoltz. He's like talking about what he basically what he would be thinking. And he is one of the best pitchers of all time. So it's like, that's what he's saying. But it makes sense. I'd rather hear that POV. Yeah, my, my other note about Hank's Padres is that they got 16 straight outs after the Grand Slam, which goes and it proves your point that Grand Slams are rally killers. You shouldn't hit them because then you get everybody off the bases. Then it's hard to keep scoring runs. Yeah. But, uh, it was all it playoff baseball's been awesome because it was one one all around until today obviously, Mets up to one and

uh, the Potters up to one and then the Royals go into Yankee Stadium and steal one. And I just love this is, this is just groundhog's day for the Yankees. Like they're Yankees fans. Aaron judge can't get a big hit. John Carlo can't run. They're just, they're just every year the same thing happens and they just, they're like, where are the stars? Why aren't the stars hitting a hundred home runs? And it would be very funny if the Royals after all Yankees fans talked about, like everything's set up perfectly for him. Astros are out and uh, who were, who else were they scared of who, oh, the Orioles. Well, not they weren't scared of the Orioles, but they're like, Oh, Astros and Orioles gone. Now just us

versus AL Central would be very funny if the Royals found a way to win this series. They could have a question. Yeah. Is is Aaron judge a true Yankee? So good. Good question. I talked to our good friend Tommy smokes last night and I said, do we have to take Aaron judges pinstripes away? And he said, did he ever have them? Yeah, I don't think, I don't think he truly ever had the pinstripes because I think they, I think what happened was Yankees fans gave him, they had the pinstripe discussion when

he, he hit the most home runs ever in the history of the American league. But I don't think he ever truly got to pinstripes. So he did have, I want to say what was the postseason? He had a postseason where maybe it was when they lost in the ALCS to the Astros the year that they cheated. I feel like, I feel like he had a decent postseason for maybe a couple games, big hits. Um, yeah, I'm looking right now in that Houston, he had three home runs in the ALCS that year. Uh, so I feel like in the, in the next year when they, uh, lost to the red Sox and in five, he had three home runs to start that series in a five game series. So I feel like he was given his pinstripes maybe like, Hey

man, this guy's going to be incredible. He's been hitting a couple big home runs, but yeah, he is not, uh, he's not doing it this year. I don't think he's a true Yankee big cat, which is so funny to say because he's objectively one of the best hitters of his entire generation. Maybe one of the best hitters, at least on pace to be one of the best hitters in Major League Baseball history. Uh, but not a true Yankee because true Yankees, they get it done in October. They do. That's a fact about true Yankees. Look at the calendar. What does it say? It's October. I'm looking right now his batting average in the playoffs career is 208. Yikes. It's Mr. June.

He is Mr. June. He is Mr. June. So, yeah, I mean, I just and John Carlos standing like, I don't know. I don't know if they could do a designated runner rule but they should think about it. The guy can't run. It's crazy watching him

try to run. You guys want to if he tries to run, that's when he starts pulling stuff. Yeah. What are you going to say, Hank? You want to predict the four games today, Wednesday? Yeah, let's do it. Ooh, I think Philly's got it same. I think no doubt. Who's on the bump? Max Ranger Suarez. He was the best pitcher in baseball the first half. Then he got hurt and he came back and he has like a, like a

boat above 60 RAs since he's been back and you're going up against Kintana. He's not, he's not that scary. No. Yeah, we can win but it's going to be. It's going to be a shootout and we like didn't use our best relievers today. I think in preparation for tomorrow being a big bullpen game. Okay. So, yeah.

Tomorrow is high leverage everything. Oh yeah. I mean, yeah. You you have is it must win or can't lose? All of the I mean both they're going to. But they can't lose. Oh no, Max. And I'm gonna be sitting in that fucking, I don't know why I came out here. I'm 0 for 2 for flying out.

And coming to these fucking streams. And neither of them were particularly close. I liked it when you said that you're not good in any room. I thought that was a fair observation of your point. Have you considered watching outside? We talked about that. I don't get, also people say that. People are like, why the fuck did you go to New York? You're just gonna lose in New York.

You wanted to, I don't get to choose where I go. That's a fact. Everything is a puppet. Here's a little behind the scenes of how Barstool works. Dave texted and was like, Max needs to be on the streams and I said, we need Max for PMT at least on Sunday and we have some stuff we're taping on Monday so he can probably be back there on Wednesday. So, the original idea was Max would go on Saturday and then he would fly there on Wednesday. So the original idea was Max would go on Saturday and then he would fly back on Wednesday. After Sunday's incredible game, Dave texted me and

said I wish Max was on the stream, which was basically saying, Hey, go talk to Max. I said to Max, you, you get to decide, but I obviously know. Like if I, I said to him, if I were in your shoes, I would go. And he was like, yeah, I'm going to go. Cause he's a company man. So yeah, he, he doesn't have much of a say. This is how we like these are the moments that make us different than everyone else. These are the moments that we have to capture, especially when we have two, you know, rival cities going up against each other. So credit to Max. He's a company man. If Dave cared about his Philly's future, he would send you back. Oh, should I out send that text in the morning, Max? Max, here's the thing. Okay, go ahead. I'm

willing to do whatever I'm is asked of me but I keep losing here. Mm hmm. Okay, Max, think about this. What about watching in the hallway tomorrow? Put an office chair in the hallway. You're technically not in a room. I'm fine with that too. All right, so try that. I think that might change the vibes. I'm fine with that. Because you can still... They do have the outside thing as well. Right. And you can still have max moments out there, like, and you can come in to make cameos, but I think you're sitting in Frank's seat anyway today. Yeah.

I mean, I was just sitting where I was told to be sitting. Yeah. Okay. Do you want me to send that text tomorrow? I'm happy to send that text, being like, hey. I don't want it to look like I'm trying to leave. Yeah, you're right, because you aren to look like I'm trying to leave. Yeah, you're right, because you aren't.

Like, you're a company man. Hank, you want to send that text? Want me to tweet him right now? Yeah, tweet him. He's not going to see that. Tweet him. Well, we have pick him tomorrow. We can bring it up.

Oh, we do have pick him tomorrow. But that's probably not enough time for Max to get back. Max, book a flight just in case. We'll figure this out. Okay. Okay. All right. Either way, don't don't die yet, Max. A lot of playoff baseball. Maybe we'll just watch it on the plane. What? Um, all right. So let's predict these. Let's predict these games tomorrow.. Alright, I get to go. I get to go. Yeah, sure. Sure. Sure. I got I got Phillies Dodgers because I want to see it go back to LA and also because you don't you cash out of that and Hank. No, I know. I listen. Yeah,

straight up. I want to see the Padres win the World Series. No, no, deep down. You don't. That's not what I do. That's that's absolutely false. That's that's not true. Big cat. It's not true because it's I cash that out so I could put the money on the Travis Hunter future. Correct. I do not. You're just like, pause it a little bit more money. But I know you don't. I get the feeling of being right though. No, no. Listen, you can say whatever you want. I've done it before. I've cashed out a future. I'm rooting a hundred percent against that team. After I can you think I'm rooting for both you and Hank to lose your futures? No, you're not. It's not us. It's the fact that you cashed out. You have to

root against you. If you cash out, you have to root against that team. Your project, you would root against your team. I'm telling you that I have done it and I that's a human nature. I am not doing that. I don't I don't feel that at all. That's I deep down. You don't want the Padres to win. No, I swear to God. I swear to God. I'm I'm rooting for the Padres love the brown and yellow. You don't see a brown and yellow combination on sports. It's good colors, especially the pink and the yellow. They pop when they wear those as the accessories. They're fun team. They piss everybody off. They make me happy. There's no way. Same. Maybe Jayden just turned over a new leaf in my head. We're being optimistic about things. I'm

choosing to talk about Jayden right now. Shut the fuck up, Max. All right. And then I got the Tigers, then I got the Yankees. The Yankees. Alright, Max. Max, I will go Mets. I will go Royals. I thought you were going to go for Mets. What? I think you should say Mets, Mets, Mets, Mets. Sure, yeah, I'll do that. Mets, Mets, Mets, Mets. Let's do that. Let's make a graphic of all the picks. Yeah. Should we let Memes at least gloat a little bit? Although he's been, we already talked about the Jets, but he's been in Jets land today. It's been a big day for his Jets. Memes, would you like to twist the knife? You are a Mets fan. I am a Mets fan I this team is very special. That was that was a fantastic game today. But I'm afraid the Phillies are probably going to win today. And you don't want it

to go back to the bank. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I actually want my prediction changed to the Mets. Because I actually, now that I think about it, the Phillies are dead. No, no. Yeah, they are. They are. Let's be honest. We want to try to get Max back, but they're dead. I want Max to stay. No, no. I'm... No, I meant I wanted to get him back metaphorically. I wanted to get his

spirits back up. You don't want him coming back here. No, no, no. That would make him win. He stays in New York. Yeah, so the Mets, no, if the Mets win, Max is coming back. He can take the week off. Why? What is going on here? What's going on? Just stay in New York. Whoa. Is everything okay? Yeah, what's going on over there? Yeah, what happened there? No, just stay. You can stay.

Is there like something broken that you don't want them to see? No, the Mets keep winning. Just stay in New York. Yeah. Max, you could definitely just come back and be like, I've only won, and just sit right back down on the ground, right in the corner of the gambling cave with your hands over your ears like a big baby, and watch the Phillies win. The hands will be over my ears regardless.

Yeah. Okay. Anything else from baseball? It's been awesome. I love playoff baseball. Yeah. Nothing like it. And I pause to the favorites to win it all. Phillies are in dead last to win it all. Favorites, the Padres are the favorites. Yeah. Well, because they're they're up to one. I'm so happy. No, to win at all. Yeah, no, I know. They're up 2-1. The only other team up 2-1 is the Mets, and the Padres would have home field advantage.

So it makes sense. I think they would. Yeah, they would. Yeah, they definitely would. What are the Phillies to win at all? Plus a thousand. DraftKings. DraftKings.

I kind of like that. DraftKings. Max, the bats just come alive. Fight Max. Don't let them get back to the bank. No, that's that's that's that's when it goes bad. It just it goes so bad. It was such a beautiful scene at a Field tonight. That that sunset they were showing was credible. Crisp in the air. Yeah, Mets fans are long suffering. I also landed at City Field, which is our LaGuardia, which is right next to City Field. And it was just a bunch of people flying in to go to the Mets game. And then

I was like, I'm literally looking at the game. And I'm flying here to go watch the game in a room full of people that aren't Phillies fans. So that crossed my mind today. For the record, you're talking about the Mets fans. Yeah. Not your, not Ron Smitty Gia. Right. Yeah. I mean, I loved the, I loved the Philly crew today. Yeah. Yeah. No, you have a good Philly crew But it is you're you're playing in a way game against correct because it is the Mets the aliens of Barstool and the Mets crew They're they're very entertaining, but they do kind of own that's that gambling cave. So you're walking into their place, correct?

Max who's the most annoying person that's rooting for the Mets that's in that room? None of them Bosco, I'll say Bosco. Yeah, he wanted to say Bosco Bosco. Thank you Bosco. Shout out Bosco for showing up. Thought for a second he wasn't going to show up. Don't say that. What? He got there at inning three. Stuff. Game already started. He came up to the after the game. He's like, how much do you think I'm going to get for coming for showing up? Oh, blows. He did have a weird ass starting time. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No one knew about it. I don't blame. I don't blame Bob. You didn't. I had my time zones wrong and I thought it was it an hour earlier. But if it was my team, I would not have I would have had that thing printed in my brain there Ryder Hank coming up all right let's do some college football talk and then we have an awesome interview with Troy Aikman all right PFT do you want to do an ad re- wait who who the hell are you? Me me I'm the replacer I'm taking over from PFT or whatever his name is so you know so he can play some black ops 6 so he's playing black ops 6 while I do The ad read yeah, you go ahead and read. I don't like reading the the ads so he's okay, okay, so he's playing a game all right All right, all right. That's fine. Okay, so duty black ops

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We had the weekend of chaos. It was awesome. Apple picking weekend. You look at the slate, there's not that many big games. Oh, next week is going to be incredible. And then we had number one Alabama lose, number four Tennessee lose, number nine Missouri lose, number 10 Michigan lose, number 11 USC lose. And it feels like we're in a new era of college football where these teams with the transfer portal, because like Vandy, I think had 43 new players, the the floor of a Vandy has been raised the floor of some of these teams in the power five had been raised where you can see these type of upsets and chaos. And now Vandy has the first time they've ever beaten the number one team in the country. They were 0 and

60 against top five opponents in their last 60 going against them. It was an awesome, awesome, that's a very big trend. It was awesome game. They were non-competitive. They didn't win an SEC game last year. I think the closest they were was like a 15 point loss to Auburn. That was an awesome, awesome game. It's like whole thing, Nashville, the, the putting the goalpost into the river. Diego Pavia was awesome. He's the best. I loved him last year in New Mexico state, but it was cool to see like, maybe we're getting a little shift shift where everyone maybe there's a little bit more parity in college football I guess we'll find out but right now this season it's still early But the chaos and the fact that we don't know who's good in college football right now

Yeah, it reminds me of that 2007 season Yes And if you if you don't know about the 2007 season go go back, watch. There's a bunch of videos on YouTube that break down how crazy that season was with all the upsets that happened week after week after week after week. We're on pace for that right now. It's probably not going to last to the same extent that 2007 did, but the upsets are incredible. Vanderbilt, I love the I love the new tradition, which is if you have a river

in your town and you beat a good team, you're tearing those fucking things down. You're putting them into a river Yeah, they belong in the river right now and they walked like two miles with the goalposts There was some sick-ass night vision cameras to five helicopters we saw all the vanity students like crawling down the steps to just very calmly and Very they were very organized with how they got those goalposts in the river. But it's just like a mindset that we have right now where we win football game, goalposts go river. And it's so much fun because we've had all this, whether it be conference realignment, NIL, transfer portal, all this hand-wringing that college football, the playoff expanding,

all this hand-wringing that college football is going to lose some of its luster and what made it unique. And yes, we did lose some things, but I truly believe with with the NIL and transfer portal, I think you're going to get these teams, the Vandies of the world being able to take a little slight step up and be competitive in these types of games that you didn't have before. It's, it's kind of, it feels like every, it feels like there's, it's not, it's not like it was 10 years or the last 10 years where there's three teams that can win the title and no one else. Like you could... you could put your life on it, these three teams, no one else has a chance. It feels like there is a... maybe 10 teams right now that, yeah, I guess on the right day they

could win this... win the playoff. Because if you're a big school, you're also using the transfer portal with the exception of Clemson. But I think that the smaller schools are the traditionally weaker schools have a much bigger upside to the transfer portal being able to access those guys. Yeah, well, it's it's the it's also the depth chart where it's, you know, guys would go to Alabama, sit for a couple years, then get their chance. Now maybe they're going somewhere

and they're not getting their chance right away and they're very talented and they're like, I'm gonna go somewhere else. Or on the flip side, a guy at the lower schools, the lower schools are probably the ones that get hurt from all of this because a lot of like, guy goes to a Mac or a Sunbelt, plays for a few years, then is like, I got one year left,

I'm gonna try to go play at the power five level. Right, but if a Vandy where I'm going to try to go play, you know, at the power five level, right? But if a Vandy, what I'm saying, Diego Pavia, he goes up and wins that game. They don't win that game without him on Saturday. Yeah. So that the smaller, big group of four schools, right, they're going to benefit from it, because they can get access to good players, correct? The top schools are going to benefit too, but maybe not to the same extent that a Vandy would benefit.

Well, they don't need, they do it differently too. Their recruiting is always going to be elite and at a different level. Yeah. But it was just, I don't know, I think college football is in a great spot. There's chaos everywhere. And we didn't even mention like without Cam Ward, another transfer, Miami would have been added to that list too, because that was an insane comeback late night against Cal, but they have been on the ropes two weeks in a row. And it's just every Saturday feels like you get one of these moments that is just so much

fun and I'm just very excited about the future of college football when we've spent so many years being like, it's all dying, it's all going to suck. Like the sport we loved is gone. Well, conference realignment does suck. I don't like that, but it's going to happen no matter what. There's nothing you can do about it. So just put that aside, put the systemic stuff aside and then just embrace all the chaos that's happening. Also embrace the hog. I love that quote from Sam Pittman. We got to embrace the hog. Tennessee's got, this is, I feel for Tennessee fans, they've had elite, elite offenses and

suspect defenses. And then this year they have an awesome defense and Nico's a freshman. And he had freshman moments running out of bounds on fourth and five to end the game. Joe Milton did that. Yep. That was the exact same play. One of the other greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen. That was tough. And I do feel for Tennessee fans, they're obviously their season's not over, but when you lose that game now it just everything gets a little tighter coming up where you might not have the safety net. That's really what's happening here and I love that part of it because the argument that the regular season won't matter anymore with 12 teams in the

playoffs, it's just a safety net like Tennessee has to win one of their big games coming up. Yeah I mean it's good I think for what we have for for future football this year. It's it's good that we have the playoff because that that loss to Vandy would have been disqualifying for Alabama and we wouldn't get to see them play in any real serious postseason games probably. Well yeah because Saban would have just... Nick Saban... He would have just gotten on a show and been like we're one of the best four teams in the country and then they would have been in probably right also Nick Saban with the all-time quote before the game saying that Vandy was an easy place to play He's right. He's for him for him for saving doesn't lose that game for no Nick Saban would not he would he would have the

Stadium firebombed in the fourth quarter. I think I saw a stat I think Vandy scored like 16 total points against Nick Saban ever. Yeah. They didn't play every year because they're obviously not in the same side, but it was something ridiculous. They were never competitive against Nick Saban Alabama. Yeah, the last six quarters for DeBoer have been a nightmare. Nick Saban never had six quarters like that. Yeah.

But we had, so yeah, we had Tennessee. That was tough to have Nico go down Mizzou They were underdogs. Yeah, but now Texas A&M is back in the picture They're backing like hey if they win in one of their big games coming up They could be in the playoff which is crazy because that's again that you would usually disqualify off of a loss and then Say oh that better luck next year now everyone gets in here. And then you had Michigan who they probably are out. Yeah. And USC who's probably out as well probably was never in but that was a tough loss against

Minnesota where they're up, you know, seven going in the fourth quarter and Minnesota just grinds them. Yeah, and big JMU news. Kurt signetti and his Indiana Hoosiers are looking pretty good for the playoff right now. What about real Jamie? No, I'm talking about Jamie. I'm talking about Kurt signetti former JMU coach the Hoosiers look like they're for real. Got it I like them all eyes for your your JMU losing. Yeah, so I had hopes of yaw So I was thinking the offs just being in the playoffs would have been nice and it was gonna be an uphill battle But did not expect to lose that game. It was bad

It was bad play calling team looked very out of sorts compared to how sharp they had looked in weeks prior I don't know what happened with that. It was just it was all around bad our quarterback I don't know if he's injured had some accuracy issues It was bad. It was bad night. I didn't but at the very least it was not the big upset that happened I was very thankful that Alabama lost to Vanderbilt because it's like, okay Well, yeah, we might have lost his 18 and a half point favorites, but at least we're not Alabama. Yeah, I mean, those Yeah, right. Alabama was the story no matter what. Yep. We also had, by the way, you mentioned conference realignment, I just

want to say, I feel really bad for James Franklin. I don't know if you guys saw this, but apparently in their upcoming game against USC, the State College Airport is not big enough to fly them out of. So they have to go to Harrisburg. So James Franklin did a press conference. It was like, yeah, we have to be on a bus for like an hour. Oh my god, the new conference realign. I hope he's okay. It's really tough. That's a lot of sitting. That's really, really tough. An hour, hour. And yeah, that's I think, let's a lot of sitting. That's really, really tough. An hour? Hour. Yeah, that's tough.

I think let's see. I'm going to find out exactly how far it is from State College, PA to Harrisburg. Because it could be more than an hour. But it's just very funny that the fans are having to come up with a new normal where Cal and Miami are a conference game. I will never stop laughing when I see Cal playing against Miami for the Atlantic Coast Conference. The the signs at Game Day for Cal were so funny when people were actually getting mad online. Yeah, there was someone who said the Cal algorithm, I think it was odd for highs

person. That was a great one. And they got very upset about that. That was a great one. There were so many controls on there. All right, Harrisburg and State College. Oh my god, hour and 28. And that's probably right now. You're looking that up at 1230 in the afternoon on the East Coast. Yeah, I don't think there's gonna be much traffic is gonna be rush hour. No, I don't. I don't know. I'm going to Harrisburg traffic. But yeah, that's brutal. We also should we should mention Travis Hunter had a bye week. He should be the Heisman but Ash and Gentie is god damn it. He's really good. He's so good. It's insane. It's insane. The balance that he has how his burst, how quick he is. It's crazy. He is in a non Travis Hunter year. That's what's so sad about this year

is that we should be respecting Gentie more, but unfortunately he's going to get just washed away and all the Travis Hunter hype. Yeah, he he is on pace right. So he has a thousand thirty one yards and 16 touchdowns through five games. He's also sat out like a bunch of second halves. He's on pace for two thousand four hundred and seventy four yards and thirty eight touchdowns.

Barry Sanders had two thousand six hundred and twenty eight yards and thirty seven touchdowns in 1988 You know big crazy cat with the state of the running back position in the NFL where you know You have to maximize your healthy years as much as you can Is it crazy thing maybe Gentie should just sit down for the rest of the season? I would agree and he's already got a seasons worth of stats exactly I want to see this guy make all the money that he can, have glory at the professional level. And I think for his own safety, I think it'd be a good idea. Yeah. I think somebody should tell him that. He had a moment, there was a moment on Saturday where he, I think he ripped off like a 75 yard run. And then I looked at his stats and it was like halfway through the first quarter and he had like

six carries for 82 yards call it like man take out that 75 yard run. They're bottling them up Yep And then as I was about to tweet that he had like a 65 yard run touchdown runs guy Alright, never mind. So I was thinking that during the game because he's reached the point of So I was thinking that during the game because he's reached the point of Explosiveness where you don't know what the timeline is reacting to when they say goddamn Ashton Jintze Jintze is so good, right because you he might be you might be reacting to some a play that happened like two minutes ago Yeah, or he might have just done it again. Yeah, it was he's been incredible. So that is our husband watch We should say I think it's two horse race right now. I would say so.

We'll see what happens. It basically will come down to like, does Jalen Milrow have a big couple games? I don't, I can't in good conscience, I cannot vote for a Heisman quarterback that lost to Vandy. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Does Carson Beck have a couple big games? I can't in good conscience vote for a quarterback that lost to a quarterback that lost to Vandy. Great point. And then Quinn Ubers obviously missed a couple games. So I think he might be, I don't think there's been a a quarterback that lost to a quarterback that lost to Vandy. Great point.

And then Quinn Ubers obviously missed a couple games. So I think he might be I don't think there's been a Heisman in a long time that's won while missing a couple games. Yeah, yeah, so I would agree with that two horse race. We also should say one last thing I had was Army and Navy are incredible. And it would be awesome if one of them went to the playoff. That would be very fun. We have very, very fun.

I also think I might be wrong. No, I think I'm right. I believe the playoff seeding comes out before Army Navy. Does it? So that yeah, that game doesn't count. I've heard that that game doesn't count. But I don't know if that's one of those situations where it's like you're not allowed to like all the people that that come up with the seeding. You're not allowed to even watch that game. That would be don't let it into your brain. Crazy if if one of them got in and then they beat and the other one beat them. They both play Notre Dame in this season. You want to get wild with it?

Yeah. I think, I don't know this for a fact, but I think the way that the seeding is written is that you have to win a conference, right? To be considered one of the top four teams? Yes, that is true. Does that get that by? Does it say that it has to be a power four conference? It does.

Does it? It doesn't, like if there's two conferences that don't have, like the Big 12, for example, if they have a conference champion that's got three or four losses, and then if you have another, like an ACC champion that somehow has three or four losses is there a possibility That a conference champion could come from a conference that isn't one of those schools That isn't one of those

Power force I thought they set it up to basically screw the little guy, but maybe I think that was the intent But I don't know what the rule actually says I get it does say I guess it technically says for highest ranked conference champions So maybe not so it could be like a Mac It could be like Toledo if they were higher ranked yeah, if they're if they ended up being a higher Rank than than whatever like the big 12 champion was yeah. Yeah. That would be crazy. That would be crazy. Army Navy is played after the final. Okay, so it's right. December 8. So that'll be interesting. If that was imagine if that happened. I'm rooting for Army or Navy to get in. How awesome would that be?

How awesome would that be? I'm gonna look right now. Anything else from college football? How about your Huskies Hank? Big win, big upset. Just getting their favorite they were Still though. It's good. Good one. It's good when you guys lit them up a lot of questions in Michigan a Lot of questions in Michigan Hank what'd you think about the game? We talked about it Sunday. I was big one that was as much as you could do

Well, what else do you want for me? You guys aired out? Maybe you would have watched tape I? Did not watch any tape. I'm sorry watch any tape god damn it I really want army and Navy to get into the playoff pull them now I do know that those two teams specifically are independents, but it could be you know potentially max school Yeah, that would rock if a Max School got a buy. That would be incredible. Yeah. I think they would probably try to rig it so it wouldn't happen.

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Oh, I love that from you. My first one is life after death. Okay. Jimmy Carter? Nope. Al Pacino. Oh, oh yeah. I after death. Okay. Jimmy Carter? Nope, Al Pacino. Oh. Oh yeah, I saw this, yeah. He had a COVID, I guess near death experience

and or like maybe died and came back. He said he didn't see anything. He said there's nothing after you die. So he just took a nap? It just goes blank. No dream. He took a nap with no dreams? No dreams, yep. I've been having crazy dreams recently.

But the fact that he remembered that there was nothing tells me that there was something to remember. You know what I'm saying? True. It's like in that movie Contact where it's like your camera recorded when you went to that other dimension, your camera recorded nothing but static. Yeah, but it recorded eight hours of static. Right. He also didn't die. Well, I guess they left him with no, no, he fell a cold near death experience. I left him with no pulse is Al Pacino. No, it's Robert De Niro has like a, who keeps having kids. I think Pacino might've had one too. Robert De Niro is just like, I think he has like a newborn. Yeah. He jumped off a boat this summer. Is he okay? Yeah. You see the video, he's like Almost died falling off a boat wait

He did he jump or did he jump but he like it looked like a fall because he can't be graceful at that age Speaking of not being graceful at that age my other hot seat is Bob Costas. Okay. I actually had him on my hot seat too Hey, thanks for doing two of them Go ahead. Why me too? No. Yeah, why? He just sounds he's he's broadcasting the Yankees Royal Series and he sounds horrible. He is a robot. Bob Costas is a really good case for maybe nostalgia isn't always the best because when Bob Costas started calling baseball games again, I was personally like, this is awesome.

Bob Costas called the World Series when I was a kid this is cool no no no no I think he's still stuck in the year like 1991 yeah yeah it's like when they do I mean I'm worried about one that's coming up it's like you know Anchorman 2 when they do these sequels of comedies that aren't necessary and they're just bad and you're like this just kind of it doesn't ruin the first one. Yeah, but it's not necessary He he has all the money. He doesn't need to do it I don't get why why he chooses to do it

I think Bob Costas believes that Bob Costas adds a lot to the sport of baseball Remember Bob Costas did that whole member what was it was a Sunday football when they gave him that weird like Bob's minute sitting on a soapbox. Yes is what I'm chewing on Yeah weird like, Bob's minute sitting on a soap box. Like, this is what I'm chewing on. Yeah. And he did the whole thing about how the NFL is too dangerous and how he feels like he's been complicit in all this stuff. I think he thinks that baseball is the one true sport. Like Bob Costas strikes me as, he wishes that it was just baseball, horse racing, and boxing.

Yeah. That's it. There was the Bob Costas minute, he did the thing about football and then he did one about like guns. Yeah, he would wear his little fucking scally cap and he just he'd look even shorter Yeah What they do is they would essentially give him like a letters to the editor page except it was on TV for ready to watch Right, but yeah, it was portnoy's complaint. Yeah, it was like having mr. Portnoy on the show except he's on during a baseball game for some reason

I think he so that's why I think he does baseball because he thinks it's you know He truly is America's pastime is baseball. He's very romantic about baseball. Yeah, he would marry baseball, but he wouldn't fuck it, right? He also dropped some f-bombs in the WWE documentary which oh That's spicy crazy. Yeah, crazy. Spicy Bob Costas really spicy. What do he say? I forget it was laugh out loud funny I forget the context please like it's just not the fucking same or like he just it was an unnecessary It was two unnecessary f-bombs. That's that's wild to me that Bob Costas would be a wrestling fan He like broadcasted in the beginning. I would have bet everything that I own that Bob Costas would look down on anybody That's ever watched wrestling. I think I forget the exact

Would look down on anybody that's ever watched wrestling. I think I forget the exact No matter what I'm pretty sure he said like I you know when it started like he was Involved in the broadcast teams and you know WW1 and or WrestleMania 1 and 2 and stuff and he was like I Thought it was fun and entertaining, but it's just not the fucking same. Yeah. Oh, whoa, dude. Damn Okay, and your cool thrown my cool thrown I Have a couple one of them as a question mark. It's just Stefan digs question mark. Okay. Yeah Yeah, oh Hank yeah, yeah, do you know the story? Yeah? I don't know if this is already be is a cool thrown worthy It was via is it I feel like it probably makes more sense for it to be on your cool thrown because that's like

You live in your dream. Well, I your dream Well, I'm fucking in eight month eight Be I do love cardi B. I think that she's she's wild. She's a little crazy But Stefan digs allegedly had sex with cardi B when she was eight months pregnant and also might be sleeping with what two other rappers or something like that He talks every one Diggs's? Yeah. So my cool throne, my take on the cool throne was more like it came out that the Cardi B thing happened which then other reports came out about him basically just banging everyone. So I was like oh.

Good for him. He's got a cool throne, yeah. Guys can't bang anymore? He's a healthy, it's an act that's natural and healthy for an adult male. Yeah. And there was the video of him on the Vikings when they went around and asked everyone You know what teammate which once you let date your daughter and every single person like unanimously was like Stefan Diggs I'm not funny. Yeah, he's dog and that that Lizzo lyric new man on the Minnesota Vikings

That was when he was on do you think do you think Stefan Diggs fucked Lizzo and that was Adam Thielen and then he fucked An eight-month pregnant Cardi B. Does he have a type? I thought that was Adam Thielen. And then he fucked an eight month pregnant Cardi B? Does he have a type? I think that was after he left, but that would be funny. I always thought it was Kirk Cousins. Yeah, probably Kirk. He's a dog, too. Yeah, I think.

When did that song come out? 2017? No. No. I think it's after. I'm going to go with after. 2020. No, it was like a lineman or something. They figure out who it was. I think it's after I'm gonna go with after ah 2020 No, I'm pretty it was like a lineman or something they figure out who it was. Yeah, it was 2019 2020

Someone figured out so maybe it is Stefan Diggs you're right. I think it might be Stefan Diggs Also, listen at least he's it's kind of having safe sex. You're not gonna get her pregnant. Oh Cardi B. Yeah, although I think I always I feel like there's always like one crazy story about double pregnancy That's how twins are made the baby. I was pregnant. Yeah. Yeah, uh, you're hot-seated cool-toned Oh, did you got none? I mean Hank Hank ripped a couple of them, but good job Hank. We're great job I appreciate that. Give it up. We're gonna fucking show up today. Give it up up for Hank. You just came in, you punched in, you showed up to work. What was that? What was that?

Yep, I did. You had four. Are you, what's going on here? What are the vibes I'm catching from you? Is it because people should make sure they really, really watched the golf video we did with the Bob Does Sports? No, I got over that.

I woke up freshly. What do you mean got over you were great yeah it's fun yeah that you should tune in you will enjoy the videos tune in if you like seeing Hank destroyed mentally oh boy do we got a video for you my hot seat then is gonna be I'm gonna do the Indianapolis Colts Oh on the hot seat because Belichick was on the man in cast, which that's the only time I watched the man in cast is when Belichick's on it because I feel like he's it's a good fit that they have. Yeah. And he was talking shit about the Indianapolis Colts saying that, yeah, it's loud at Arrowhead,

but you know, it was really loud at the RCA dome in Indianapolis when you guys used to pump in all that crowd noise. Yep. And then one time it skipped and we all heard that. And then Mr. Ursay responded this morning to the allegations that they used to pump in all that crowd noise. Yep. And then one time it skipped, and we all heard that. And then Mr. Ursay responded this morning to the allegations that they used to pump in crowd noise. He said, reminder piped in crowd noise myth, 1,000% fictional.

And the skip. 1,000? 1,000% fictional. And the skip was TV broadcast. We get it, though. Visiting teams couldn't believe that 60,000 in an intimate domed stadium can make that much deafening noise Wave smiley face a credit to Colts fans

So who knows who knows who's writing this I have to wait for all the facts to come out till we figure out whether or not the Colts used to back in like 2006 pumping crowd noise wave smiley for wave smiley face a credit to Colts fans Wow So thousand percent fictional or as Belichick telling the truth. I don't know. Wave smiley face, a credit to Colts fans. Wow. So 1000% fictional or is Belichick telling the truth? I don't know. Yeah. Hank, do you remember that? Not. I don't remember like the details. I just remember them saying they pumped in crowd noise. I don't remember like the drama as it unfolded. I think a lot of stadiums do it. Definitely. I think I think probably Seattle does it or at least used to do it. There was one coach that told us

anonymously that he gave his grounds crew instructions when they went up to Seattle to pour muriatic acid on all the power lines connecting the speakers to whatever pumped in crowd noise thing they had. And then the grounds crew was like, no, we can't do that because that's illegal and possibly an act of terrorism. Yes. The coach didn't tell us this. the grounds crew was like no we can't do that because that's illegal and possibly an act of terrorism. Yes the coach didn't tell us this the grounds crew. The grounds crew told us this yeah and it's anonymous which coach it was. Yes. And then yeah there was the the Seahawks used to do it I feel like the Vikings. The Falcons I think got in trouble. The Falcons got fine for it. Falcons got fine for it. Yeah Belichick probably squeaked on the Vikings then too and was like hey or on the Falcons. Yeah. I was like hey just so you know they didn't hire me just fine it. Yeah Belichick probably squeaked on the Vikings and two was like hey or on the Falcons Yeah, okay, just so you know they didn't hire me just fine them. Yeah, the commanders used to do it

I heard it all the time when I was there. Yeah It is he is good Belichick is I Don't know. I don't know what I guess he was always this guy He's a delay also very very funny picture of him with his girlfriend in Nantucket where he did the Patented Belichick rip on a Taylor Swift sweatshirt. Yeah, it's so funny. Do you see what was in the background of that picture? What was it a lighthouse? Whoa a real lighthouse? Do you think he's coming back? No, that was Nantucket. No, but that's like the that could be a sign that he's coming back. That was his sign It's like Devante Adams posting Edgar Allan Poe. Yeah. Oh

Man, what if he's coming back? What if he goes back to the Jets? Oh Sign the contract on a napkin that'll be incredible All right. My hot seat is my Chicago fire because we just hired Greg Berhalter as head coach. Oh, no Yeah, I think that's great I think that's great for Greg because that just means that he's definitely not going to return to the U S national director of football and head coach. Hey, listen, anytime you can get a guy who's coaching the world cup as your head coach, you got to do it. Does this mean that we're going to have to get them on the show at some point? I think we should. We should because

we also, I, I usually get them on the show and do no research before research before yeah and then just go off vibes of what everyone else said about him unfortunately I've got a lot of mental background in Greg Burr I don't I just know you it was always burr halter out but now we get to do burr halter out again that's true yeah so you burr halter out right now I'm burr halter out officially for the fire yeah fuck them know what? Let's give one day To 10 o'clock tomorrow. I'm officially for halter out Okay, did he does he have any playing experience with any of the fathers of the players that are on the current Chicago fire? Because that could really screw things up Well, the good news for the fire is I can't name them

I was gonna say Spencer Richie not even just son but but MLS player that didn't play on the Can you name an MLS player that's not on the US national team? Yes, that's a richie No, or or wasn't like superstar somewhere else Spencer Richie Spencer Richie. Yeah easy fuck Yes, Spencer Richie shout out husky is he yeah Nice boys with Spencer back up goalie Your boys with Spencer. He's boys with Spencer. Backup goalie. Your boys with Spencer? He's boys with Spencer. His name is Spencer.

And he's also Boys with Spencer. Two Spencers. Got it. I knew who you were talking about, but the listeners did not. Right. When you just said Spencer Richie,

boys with Spencer. My bad. All right, and then my cool throne is Deshaun Watson because he settled another lawsuit. So we are now in a cycle that will not be broken because the Browns are paying Deshaun Watson way too much money so that Deshaun Watson can then settle all his lawsuits so that he can never be brought to justice for any of his crimes so that the NFL can't suspend him and the Browns can't get out of it.

Yeah, the Browns can't do anything because his contract says that there's nothing in there. Like, if it wasn't already, all the stuff that's been reported about him, they can't take any action against him for any of that. And they're paying him so that he can basically stay afloat at paying off all these women. There will be no new allegations because all the allegations get settled using the money that he's getting paid from the Browns. And the Browns need the NFL to step

in but the Browns the NFL can't step in until it's goes from private settlements to public and That will never happen because the Browns keep paying to show. That's it. Correct. Damn What a fucking does it just bench his ass? I feel so bad for Kevin Stefanski. Yeah, he should quiet quit It's I think he has yeah I think he's still trying because he his hands are tied He can't do anything about it because the ownership's like you have to pay you have to play the guy that we're paying money

He's so bad at football. He's a bad guy. This is talking about the show Shawn Watson's James would save everything James's lightest spark. What are you gonna say memes? What if the Jets trade for Kevin? Svansky that would be a smart trait. Yeah, it'd be great. Thanks. Everything everything everything a son reddick for Kevin Svansky straight up. Yeah, I saw I saw a lot of people complaining Complaining about what pass rush on the Browns? Oh, even though they have miles Garrett. He's been injured member He's got a thigh ankle Achilles Yeah, eyes. It's almost Halloween season. He loves Halloween season. That's true. He'll be back

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When when we're not around Well he he talked about y'all to me for the first time last night as we were leaving the stadium Hasn't been a whole lot of dialogue I don't want. I don't want to disappoint y'all. But it started. Yeah. Sounds like he's ashamed of us. Is that what it sounds like? I don't know. Maybe, maybe. No, but he heard I was coming on.

And so he grabbed me and he was fired up. He said he's been a guest on your show a few times and he's really enjoyed it. In fact, he, he said it's the best thing that he's ever done as far as how people have, have taken to him and have gotten a chance to see his personality. So, uh, all good. Yeah. All right. That's, that's actually the whole interview. We just wanted a compliment from Joe. Yeah, no, I'll take it. I. All right. That's actually the whole interview. We just wanted a compliment from Joe.

Yeah. No. I'll take it. I'll take it. So now that Joe's feeling all high and mighty about himself, what's the worst part about working with Joe Buck? You know what? In all honesty, there's not a lot of downside.

You know? I mean, it's amazing that we've been together as long as we have. Uh, I think the, the one thing, well, uh, Joe won't let me do anything by myself. So, you know, he's involved in everything. And if I'm, if I'm doing an interview, I'm surprised, is he going to sneak onto this thing? We're just talking about our friends behind their backs. Yeah. The hair, you could say the hair plugs, those guys that got ridiculous, right? I mean, that got a little ridiculous by him. Like the ad, but you're talking about like the SVP interviews. It's like, Hey, Joe's here too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, exactly. So, you know, um, that's, that's just part of the deal. You

know, we're a package deal. So, uh, we do everything together. Well, I mean, and we're going to get into questions about your career and everything, but to talk about you and Joe and the, in the games you call, I, I, you guys, I love your booth. I love listening to games. You guys both have big game voices, but I think it's also a Testament to your relationship where a lot of times it's lost that the, the relationship between the two guys sitting in the boot together matters so much. And like it comes across on the screen and you could tell you guys are friends. Was there, when you started with him, was there a feeling out process to get to that comfortable level?

Because you guys are like the best booth in my opinion and it's because of your friendship. Yeah, thank you. And, and, and I, I, you know, I've, I've been asked why do I think it works? And my, my first answer always is that I think the viewer, I think they feel the fact that we are really good friends and you can't fake that. So the fact that you understand that or sense it,

it means a lot to me. But when I got paired with Joe, so I retired in 2000 and 01 was my first year of broadcasting. I worked with Darrell Moose Johnston and Dick Stockton and Madden was the number one guy. So then after one year, John left for Monday Night Football and he called me to tell me I had no idea what that might mean for me, but they paired Joe and I and Chris Collins worked together. So the three of us worked together for three years.

And, you know, that was three, a three man booth is challenging. So, um, Joe claims that he had called a game of mine back when I was playing. Uh, I don't recall him ever. I don't recall ever being in a production meeting with him. You know, which you guys know Joe, so that didn't go over real well. But I got to know Joe better. Once we got into a two man booth, we were close when we were in the three man booth with Chris. But once it became just Joe and I, you know, then we had more concentrated time together. And I was golfing at the time. We spent a lot of time in the off season golfing.

Our kids are our daughters and they're not kids anymore. They're adults, but they were, they were roughly the same age. We were girl dads. Uh, we've, we've gone through a lot of life experiences together. So, uh, it's been a good relationship really right from the start. Yeah, it's been, it's been great to watch. And you guys do add like that element, like big cat said, the big game voices, it just feels like it's a spectacle and we got Troy and Joe on the broadcast and that that's always great And unless you make a minor mistake on the air and you accidentally say that Taylor Swift is married to Travis Kelsey

Yeah, like is that? Was that a big deal? I mean was that Was I was I on a tightrope right there? Was I on a tightrope right there? This morning I woke up and I saw a headline like Aichman knew he was in trouble or something and I'm thinking, gosh, if this is newsworthy, I mean- In trouble. Yeah. I mean, really?

Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever done the thing where you became an ordained minister online? You fill out a form, takes you five minutes and you get a certificate? Because if you had- I've done that to become a bartender, but not a minister. Okay. All right. So they're not actually married. Have you ever seen that thing you do? That's what happens to the lead singer. They accidentally say he's engaged, the band falls apart. You might've just cursed the chiefs. Yeah.

You know what? Someone, uh, I don't know if I cursed him or not, but someone actually reached out to me today and said that they might actually be engaged. So I might've, I might've, I might've broke the story. Big journalists. Is it a, so, so the, I like, like I said, we're big fans of yours. I want to talk about your playing career real quick because I, we always do whenever we have rookie quarterbacks It's always like well Peyton Manning through 33 interceptions Whatever it was is his first year. You also had a tough first year didn't win a game through a lot of interceptions

Was there ever a moment in your first year? We're like this might not be Like I might not be able to make it because we see it now all the time where they rush guys in and there's five guys drafted in every first round and three or four of them are failures. Uh, but w what was it like when you were going through that and how were you able to overcome it? Because it's really something we should all look at and be like, Hey, don't give up on a guy after a year. Yeah. Like, like maybe this isn't the profession for me, huh? Yeah. I'm going to something else. But now I'm asked a lot, as you can imagine, with these guys now, should a guy sit and watch for a year or two or should he play right away?

And all I know is what I experienced. And that was I played right away. And I think the key is not losing your confidence. And fortunately for me, I had a former NFL quarterback that had played years earlier in Jerry Rome, that was my quarterback coach and he was great and just simply not allowing me to lose my confidence, which I didn't do, but I was demoralized a bunch.

I mean, there were so many times I walked off the field thinking, what do you got to do to win a game? But I was 0-11, like you said, uh, got, got beat up a lot. Uh, but I, I, I still always believe that we would get it going. And fortunately, my first start, my second year we won. So I got that monkey off my back, but you're right in that. We're so quick to judge. I mean, we're judging these guys after three, four games.

I mean, it's crazy. We don't even give them a year. And we're already making proclamations on Jayden Daniels, who I think is sensational. But Caleb Williams, you know, people are already comparing those two guys and who's gonna make it, who's not. Of course, Bryce Young from last year.

And I do think, and you know, a guy like Sam Darnall, who's been years now removed, and he's gotten in the right situation and look what he's been able to do. So I really believe that so many of these quarterbacks are really talented. They just get put in bad situations. And I was in a bad situation my first two years.

And then North Turner came in and it changed the trajectory of my career and really our entire team. And it really is what allowed us to go on and win Super Bowls was when he came in and started coordinating our offense. And so I think that organizations and offensive coaches and offensive coordinators have failed quarterbacks more than quarterbacks have failed organizations. Yeah, it makes sense. And we just found out right now actually that Drake May is going to be starting for the Patriots this upcoming weekend. So they made the change. We were talking about

this on a Monday show about whether or not it's a good idea to start Drake May right now, considering where the Patriots are at and really what they want to accomplish this season. Um, so I'm curious to hear from your perspective. Do you, do you feel like this is, it's the time to see what the young guys got? Yeah, I think the, again, going back to, if I were the coach, I would simply ask the question, one, can we protect him? And can we put him in an environment where we at least give him a chance, where he has an opportunity to have success? And if the answer to those questions is yes, then I say, get him out there and let him give some reps.

I mean, you talked about Peyton. Peyton struggled as a rookie. There was a time when all rookies struggled. The Dan Marinos were rare. And then Ben Roethlisberger came in and he had a really good rookie year. And now we've seen Dak Prescott. We've seen others, CJ Stroud. There's guys I'm leaving out, but we've seen more and more rookies who have come in

and been able to play at a pretty high level. But if you're a rookie quarterback and you struggle and that's somehow end your confidence or somehow affects your ability to play at a high level, then you probably weren't wired properly to be a franchise quarterback anyway, is what I would think. Yeah. I think that's a valid point. You were talking about the organization, having a good organization around you. I'm curious to know, did Jerry Jones, did he ever land the helicopter on the practice field while you were on it, or is that something he's just recently started to do?

Well, he started doing it probably, I don't know, eight years ago or so, six, seven, eight years ago when he got the helicopter. But you know, when he, I came in the same year as Jerry. And when, when I came into the league with him, uh, he, he had mortgaged everything he owned in order to buy the Cowboys. So he, he was nine, he didn't have the perks of a 300 foot yacht or a helicopter or, you know or all the other trappings that he now has. So we didn't have to deal with that.

But that helicopter, it's running a taxi service back and forth quite often throughout the day. So it becomes a regular occurrence. Yeah, that's awesome. That's what I would do. I would be the worst owner of the league by the way. I would just take all the pieces from all the worst owner of the league by the way. Absolutely. Yeah.

I would just take all the pieces from all the worst owners, combine them into one. That's probably how I'd act if you just gave me a team. But at the time, you just mentioned you came into the league at the same time Jerry Jones got into the league and then you guys kind of all grew together. At what point did you realize that your owner that you had was different from all the other owners? That's a great question. It's one I've the other owners? That's a great question. It's one I've never been asked. It's a great question. You know what? It resonates because

I would tell you, well, first of all, as soon as you meet Jared, have you all ever met Jared? We've never had the opportunity. We want to get on that bus and have a couple of Johnny Walker blues with him. Hell yeah. I bet if he knew you wanted to do that, you would be invited, I'm being serious. And I think when anyone meets Jerry, anyone who listens to this, it's had the opportunity to meet Jerry, I think would agree with this, that as soon as you meet him, you realize he's different

and he's unique. And he approaches life just differently and he approached the league differently. I mean, you think about it, that he had not been in the league very long when the league was about to re up with the networks at the existing prices and they were told the networks told the league they weren't making money. Hey, we still want to televise NFL games, but we have to do it at the same price. And it was Jerry who put his foot down and said, no, we're not going to do that.

And then he got involved and that's how Fox then got involved. And the rest is history with what the TV rating or the contracts have been. So I would say that right away, I knew he was different. And then within a short period of time, you realize how competitive he is and how badly he wants to win. He does, he does want to win. Now some would argue as to how he goes about doing that, which is a valid argument, but yeah, he's, he's in it to win. There's no question. Yeah. So the, uh, your, your run with the Cowboys in the nineties, the team, team of the decade, three super bowls. We talked about the Oh, an 11, uh,

rookie year, but then you're building, you're building, you're building. Is there one game that you can look at and say, that was the moment that I knew that we were, we were about to be something special because that the sports is about the climb and watching a team come together. Is there one game though you specifically are like, yup, that was it. That's when we knew we were different. Yeah. I don't know if you ever realize it at the moment when it happens, but, uh, but we were my second year as, as tough as my rookie year was, uh, my second year started

out even tougher. Uh, it was because when you come in, the Cowboys were the worst team in football the year before I arrived. That's why they had the first pick and that's why I went there. And it's hard to take ownership in your first year because you're new and you say, well, heck, this team was bad last year, you know. This isn't really my fault. And then your second year, you start to do, you do start to take ownership and you and you then are part of the problem. And we started, we started that year three and seven, we were worse offensively than we had been the year before. And we went to LA, we went to play the Rams, when they

were down in Orange County, and they were a really good team with Jim Everett as a quarterback, and we beat them, we were heavy underdogs, we won that game and we ended up winning four games in a row and put ourselves in a position to potentially make the playoffs but we didn't. We lost the last two games and then the next year we had a good year we made the playoffs but when we all look back on when did it really turn for us it was that game against the Rams in 1990 that kind of got things going, at least, in the right direction where we started to build on something. And I think that all teams go through that. We had the Redskins, or I say Redskins, we had the Commanders a couple of weeks ago, and nobody expected much out of them. And Jayden Daniels has a fantastic game

against Cincinnati. And I said that during the broadcast. I didn't reference my own career, but I really felt that that was a game. I do think that we'll see how their year goes, but I would bet that most people, if not everyone in that organization, is gonna look back on that Monday night game

against Cincinnati and say, that's when we really started to believe that we had something that was unique. And I think they do have something that's going to carry them this year. Yeah. And it's, it's so funny because in sports too, you could tell me if I'm way off, but like the human element of it's not all just talent or scheme, but the belief in being able to do something matters a lot for a lot of these teams. In some ways it matters more than the talent. I 100% agree with that.

I've always believed there are guys within an organization, guys within a locker room on a team that may not contribute much on the field, but their contributions to the overall success of that team are, you know, you just can't, you can't put a value on it because of their personality or how they keep guys loose or how they build people up or whatever it is. But the locker room dynamic, it means something. And you have to be in that locker room. It's one of the reasons why I had always wanted to be a general manager.

I mean, that time's passed me by, but I'd always wanted to do it because I've been in a championship locker room. I know what that locker room looks like. I know what it feels like. And it's not always just simply looking at a player on paper and saying, well, this guy is better than that guy. There's more that plays into that. And, and having a belief in one another and having a trust is a big part of team success.

Who was that on the Cowboys? Maybe someone, a name that we wouldn't think that popped off that was like, this guy is a glue guy. Something that you can't understand it unless you're in that locker room. Yeah, I would, I would say Kevin Gog Goguen was was absolutely one of those guys. He's the first guy that comes to mind. Now he played he wasn't someone who didn't play but he wasn't this all-pro offensive lineman. I mean he just did it on sheer guts and an attitude but what he meant to us during the week is, you know, you can't, like I said, you just simply can't, you can't put a price on.

Yeah. Yeah. It makes everybody else want to do their job a little bit better. Yeah. Right. So I read something interesting about you today. I don't know if it's true or not, but if it is, this might be the most interesting troika in fact of all time. You were the Oklahoma state typing champion when you were in high school. I had this written down as well. Yeah. What is that? Yeah. You, is that true? What it it's, uh, it's somewhat true. I, you know, sometimes when I'm asked that I just roll with it, but I'll just be, I'll

shoot you guys straight. Okay. Uh, it was, I think it was like a tri county contest. Uh, it was not a state title, but it's it's grown. It went from like a county. Votek deal to Hey, you're Oklahoma state champion of 1983 or whatever, whatever it was. But my sister I was in type and I took my mom was a typesetter at the at the local newspaper. I don't know if typing is passed down, if it's hereditary, but it might be.

But she was good. My sister is a year older than me, and we were in typing together, and she was the best typist in the class. I was the second best, and she was the one who was supposed to go to this contest. She didn't want to go. She said, Hey, I don't like to compete.

You're used to it. Why don't you go? And I said, hell, I'll go. I just figured I'd get out of school for a day. So I said, yeah, I'll go. So I went, I was the only guy in the typing contest. And I thought I did okay. I didn't think it was my best stuff.

I certainly didn't think I won. And then we go into this room because they had an accounting contest and they I did okay. I didn't think it was my best stuff. I certainly didn't think I won. And then we go into this room because they had an accounting contest and they had, it was the most boring thing, contests ever. Oh yeah. Yeah. It was all kinds of stupid stuff like that. And I went into the auditorium at the end of the day and just sitting there and they said, now for the typing winner. And they announced my name. And now that's when it got embarrassing is that I had to walk down. I'm like, I'm the typist. You know, I was, I was an athlete.

You know, I thought I was. And, but yeah, I won that. But it's got, little did I know that all these years later, I mean, yeah, people are still talking about it. I mean, it's on my Wikipedia page or something. I found it when I looked up fun facts about Troy Aikman. And that was one of the first fun facts about it. I mean, on my Wikipedia page or something. I found it when I looked up fun facts about Troy Aikman. And that was one of the first fun facts about it. You guys are like the Manning family, but for typing.

Yeah. Like your mom is a typist, and then your older sibling was supposed to be the best one. Then you fill in. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. No, that's a good point.

We are like the Manning family, only for typing. For typing, yeah. So what was your words permitted? That kind of felt like a shot a little bit, but I don't know. What was your words permitted on that? Do you remember? Oh gosh. I think I was up around 80 something. Oh, that's pretty good. That's really good. And back then, they didn't have computers. It was all, it was all typewriters. And, and, uh, so little did I know that taking typing was going to end up being such a, uh, game changer for me in life. You know, I mean, I, I, I type out emails and, uh, you know, I,

I'm not, I'm not doing this, you know? So you still got it. You think you still got it? Yeah. Wait, so you still got it you think you still got it? Yeah You could definitely take Joe Joe doesn't type in would you Joe bucks got assistance that type all the shit out for him Oh hell yeah Yeah Sometimes I might have type of stuff. Yeah, you never know I just like the idea of someone walking by like a Hall of Famer three times Super Bowl champion Trey, maybe like damn you can type which a Hall of Famer three times Super Bowl champion, Troy Aikman, being like, damn, he can type.

Well, what stood out to me was they had a quote from one of his friends, I think back in high school that said, Joe, typing sounded like a machine gun. The Troy. Yeah. Yeah. Troy Aikman typing sounds like a machine gun. Yeah. You just know who's typing. Close your eyes. You know, who's type. It's a powerful email. Yeah. Yeah. So so you also I assume you sent out emails cause you have a beer now, which is pretty cool. That's like, I mean, you, you, you're a guy who has it all super bowls hall

of fame. Uh, and you're like, yeah, why don't I just add another one? I'm, I'm going to get a beer, which is the coolest thing ever. So when did you start it? I started, uh, shoot, I guess it goes back five years ago now. So it was when I had the idea to do it and it took two years to come up with the recipe. And what I wanted to achieve was, first of all, I worked for a distributor in college before when I was transferring from OU to UCLA. And then I became really close friends with a distributor here in town and did a lot of his distributorship sales meetings. So I've done some campaigns over the years. So I've kind of been associated with the beer

business for a long time. But I just, two things, I felt that one, the brands that were on the market, I thought were tired. And it was time for something new, something disruptive. And then two, I felt that I could do it better. And by better, I felt that I could make it cleaner. So that was kind of the approach. And we partnered with Oregon State. They've got a terrific beer program in their food and science department, and it took two years. And so what makes A different than any other beer

is that we have no adjuncts, meaning we don't add any syrup, sugar, sweeteners, no corn, no rice. We're the only widely available beer that doesn't do that. So it truly is a cleaner, better for you beer, 100% organic grains, 90 calories, 2.6 carbs. So the measurables are important. They're important to me that Mick Ultra, for instance, is 96 calories, 2.6 carbs.

We're 90 calories, 2.6 carbs, and we don't have junk in it like they do. So I'm real proud of it. It's doing really well. We're in Texas and Oklahoma and we'll see where it goes. We continue to grow and then we'll start looking more expansion in probably in 26, 25 we'll continue to focus on those two states. That's awesome. Very cool. And now you can drink beer while you watch football on Sundays, since you're on Monday night football. That must've been a great switch for you, right?

You get to watch all the games on Sunday as they happen. Yeah, you know what? It's great for that reason. It also, it creates a pretty good pacing during the week that, one, I'm home on Saturdays for the most part. So I get Friday and Saturdays at home in Dallas along with the rest of the week, which is good. And then I also have the day on Monday.

So I feel like I've kind of got a bonus day in my, in my preparation that I otherwise didn't get, but, uh, yeah, it's been great. I can't believe this is already our third year on Monday night football. Yeah. And Monday football is the best. You sit down after a weekend of just watching all the games, you just get one game to focus on. It's great.

Um, well, the, the big thing I think, uh, after a weekend of just watching all the games, you just get one game to focus on. It's great. Well, the big thing I think, uh, is that we were getting good games. Right. Now there was, there was a time when I don't know that they could necessarily say that, but the league's been fantastic. Roger Goodell has been, been amazing and we've, we've had, Roger Goodell has been amazing and we've had really good schedules. Now we've got flex scheduling and so obviously that's what drives viewership and we've been fortunate that the league has supported us the way they have. Yeah, so flex scheduling, that kicks in week 12 from what I feel. I love that. It's awesome.

I love the idea that we won't necessarily have to sit through a dud, just a game that doesn't mean anything. Yeah, there's a game, I think it's week 12. Uh, it's we're, we're at Denver and I forget now, uh, is it Cleveland might be Cleveland at Denver that, that, that may may end up being a flex is, is kind of what it's looking like as we talk. Yeah, we deserve good Monday night football games. And I mean, you, you called the Chiefs Saints last night Obviously anytime Patrick Holmes is playing it's great to watch

We always say like just flex the Chiefs to every single Monday or Sunday night and you'll be fine Is it awkward at all though has Patrick Holmes brought up the tweet the famous tweet because that was that was bad Troy We consider you a friend now, but that wasn't bad. So for people who don't, so people don't know the tweet I'm referring to is the athletic Kansas city said in case you missed it, Patrick Holmes has thrown 36% of trade men's career touchdowns in about 8% of the games is from 2019. You quote treated said in case you missed it, talk to me when he has 33% of my Super Bowl titles it took him four more years to get 100% Right right What part of what part that was bad that was bad that happened fast

Now here's what happens so here's what happens something like something like that happens and then I mean I could be on this show explaining what happened. I could go on every national show and you're still not gonna reach all the people who saw it and have their opinion. So, you know, I don't get defensive about it. You know, in the world that we're in,

if you get defensive about anything, you've lost your mind because there's no point in it. But so here's what happened. I don't even hardly get on Twitter, but in 2019, I just happened to get on it. And I was looking at my replies and this one comes up and I don't even know who the writer was. I'd be curious as to who the writer was. Because here's what I've said is that whoever this rider was, like, why would he compare Patrick Mahomes, his stats to me? Like I was never known as a stats guy.

True. Why, why wouldn't he compare Mahomes' stats to Dan Marino or Joe Montana or somebody like that? Well, so when I read it, I felt like the rider was taking a shot at me. You know, I thought, like I said, like this jackass, I mean, like what, what, and does yards or any of that even matter to touchdowns even matter at the end of the day for a quarterback, the only thing that matters is, is winning championships. I mean, that's all that we're ultimately judged on.

And if a quarterback puts up huge numbers and doesn't mean, that's all that we're ultimately judged on. And if a quarterback puts up huge numbers and doesn't win, he's carrying this burden around with him for the rest of his life for people saying, yeah, but he never could win the big one. That's all that people will say is, oh yeah, he put up big numbers, but he can't win. So at the end of the day, the championships in my opinion, and I know that sounds self-serving because I was able to win three, but that's what matters. So I thought this rider was, I just thought, what do numbers mean? It's irrelevant.

So my reply was really a shot back at the rider to say, hey, this is what matters. Let me know when he has, that's what matters, not how many yards he's thrown for, how many championships does he have? It was never a shot at Patrick Mahomes. That makes more sense, yeah. So when I sent that out, when I sent that tweet out,

I actually was kind of laughing about it. I thought it was pretty clever. I thought, yeah, fuck that guy. I thought that was pretty funny. And then the next day I get up and I just happened to go back on to see, you know, what the response was and the response was totally opposite of anything I was trying to achieve. And so they all thought I was taking a shot at Patrick.

So now every time Patrick's had success, you know, that tweet comes back up. But I reached out to Andy Reed the next day and I said, Hey, Andy, I said, here's, here's what happened. I said, I know you, I know you don't, you could care less, you know, you've got a million other things you got to worry about besides my little tweet that went out last night. But I said, here's what I meant. I said, if you could just tell Patrick, uh, that this was not in any way intended to be a shot at him at all. And Andy said, hey, I haven't even seen it, haven't heard about it, but I know you and I know what you're about,

not even worried about it. So blah, blah, blah. And I saw Patrick, I've talked to Patrick about it. So it's all fine. But then he, and I hope Patrick wins 10. I really do. I mean, I hope there's a lot of quarterbacks I hope win 10. I pull for all these guys. So it was never about Patrick. It was about the writer and I just thought I thought it was a I thought he Was taking a shot at me unfairly and it didn't make sense to me

So that all makes sense and I I appreciate that because the game has changed and stats have changed But at what point was it the second Super Bowl or the third Super Bowl where you like should I just delete this? Well, I you know what I don't, uh, I, I was just thinking about this too, because again, I, I'm not on, I'm not on Twitter that much, but I don't think I've ever deleted a tweet. This one's funny cause it goes viral every time he wins a Super Bowl, which is every year now. Yeah. And I, you know, I'm yeah, no, I, I,

trust me. I know it goes fine. I see it. I mean, I see it. Yeah, I, I guess I'm fortunate that I haven't felt a need to delete a tweet. Even we, I'm it's not like I'm embarrassed about it or wish I hadn't have done it. I just, I just, I, I'm hoping the right, I'm hoping whoever, whoever tweeted that whoever wrote that, uh, maybe one day I'll figure out who it is, but whoever did it, I hope he understands that my reply was for him and not for anyone else. Yes. I liked that. And again, I never thought it was like a shot at Patrick, so to speak. It's just so funny how fast he won three super Bowls. Oh, yeah. It was instant.

It was instant. It was like, you treated that and then it was like three and five years. Yeah, that's a good point. Like you're right. Like he, he, he didn't get to 33%. He got to a hundred percent like overnight. I'm also reading up on this. Uh, and what you should do is when he wins another Superbowl, cause because it's gonna happen at some point Just an advanced change your profile picture to just like a picture of your beer So then when you go viral and people look at you, they just you know, they get out there. Yeah, that's true now I I also saw that you are um, you are in a bit of a back-and-forth with Lamar Jackson about Who has the trademark to the number eight. You guys are both trying to trademark

the number eight? I'm not trying to trademark it. I guess I like Lamar. I think Lamar has gotten some bad advice. It was news to me. I've not talked to Lamar about it. We'll have a game of his. I'm not even sure we'll talk about it then, but I think he's gotten some really bad advice from whoever's, whoever's his legal counsel on this. But, you know, there's a, there's been a lot of great players that have worn number eight long before me and certainly long before Lamar. You know, you talk about Cal Ripken and Archie Manning and Yogi Berra and you know, there's a lot of guys. And Kobe, of course, wore eight. And so to trademark a number, I'm not sure you can do that. I know he's proud of wearing eight.

Steve Young was proud of wearing eight. I'm proud to have worn eight. My beer is named eight and I'm wearing a hat that is for my beer and I have the right as someone who has the trademarks for alcoholic beverage to promote my product on a hat, on a shirt, on a duffel bag or however I choose. And, and I and that's why I think he's just gotten bad advice. And anyone who looks at Lamar's marks, no one would confuse what I'm doing with my beer with anything that he's doing.

Yeah, so I'm not a big article guy. I just read a headline that said that you and Lamar Jackson are fighting over the number eight. We're not smart. Yeah, just so you know, we're not smart at article guy, I just read a headline that said that you and Lamar Jackson are fighting over the number eight. We're not smart. Yeah, just so you know, we're not smart at all. We're he and I aren't he and I aren't fighting at all. I like I said, I'm a big fan and and I invited I invited Lamar on a post on Instagram to talk about it over an eight beer and maybe would have Steve Young kind of officiate

the thing. And Lamar, he liked the post. So I don't know what's going on. I think you guys are good. Yeah. But that'd be a great summit. Eight Fest. An eight-fest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just all hang out, put the Heisman house to shame. I would like that

I got a question for you about the modern-day NFL if there was one team that like if the NFL was a stock market And there's one team that you're buying stock in for the next like three to five years right now considering where they are Where you think they'll go? What team do you think that would be? Washington crazy. Okay, and I didn't think you'd say that but that's great. I would be? Washington. Crazy. Okay. I didn't think you would say that, but that's great. I would agree with that. Yeah. I wouldn't have said that prior to this year.

I probably wouldn't have said it if we hadn't have had Washington already this season, but I can't tell you how high I am on this quarterback. It's been a long time since I've been that high on a young quarterback. I watched him, so he'd played two games. I guess we had him week three. And I liked what I'd seen. But there's a lot of quarterbacks that have talent. I mean, virtually every quarterback in the NFL has some ability. That's why they're in the NFL, especially if you've been a first-round pick. So then what separates them? The players, like we've talked're in the NFL, especially if you've been a first round pick. But so then what separates them? Why, you know, the players, like we've talked about, the organization, the coaching,

the players around them, all that, but what can the player control? Does he have the intangibles? You know, does he want to be great? Is he smart? Does he put in the time? All those things, is he a good teammate? All that.

So when we did our production meeting with Jaden, I immediately was that that's what sealed it for me before we even called the game before we even had the game against Cincinnati. When we got done talking to him, I said, wow, this guy is the real deal. I mean, he's really talented. And he's really smart. And his his upbringing, you can tell he was raised right. And so I said, he has it, he just has it. And then he goes out and plays lights out. So I like him and I'm a fan of Dan Quinn's too.

So, and I said it on the broadcast, that Washington organization when I was playing, it was hard to go into RFK and play them. You know, Joe Gibbs coached teams. They were well-coached. They were talented. And I just hated to see an organization get running in the ground the way that one did. They had great fans.

Then people weren't even showing up for the games. All of it. I think that Washington, I think it's fair to say that like Chicago, like the Giants, like San Francisco, I think the league is, even though it's been a while since they've been good, I do think the league is stronger when Washington's a good team. The NFC East certainly is. It's more compelling. So I like them. If you said who would the next team be? Um, I don't know. I don't know who I would say quite honestly, there's no one who really just jumps out at me. I w I maybe Chicago, you know, maybe, maybe Chicago. I do think Chicago's got some talent.

Uh, they're still kind of trying to figure it out a little bit. I still think Caleb going back to what we talked about earlier. I hate to even say still because he's in his first year. I mean, uh, we shouldn't even be judging him on what's happened up to this point, but I think he's going to be a good player. Yeah. Yeah.

He's gotten better every week. And that's hard for you to say against it for a USC quarterback. Uh, you know what? It's actually not, uh, I guess the other team I'd say would probably be Houston because of CJ Stroud and I and D'Amico Ryan's I love. But no, you know, as a matter of fact, my UCLA family won't like hearing this, but I grew up in Southern California until I was 12.

And it's hard to be, it's hard to live in Southern California and have the name of Troy and not be a USC fan. True. True. Yeah. I was a big USC fan growing up. And then when I was looking to go to college, had USC, had they have recruited me, there's a good chance I would have gone there. And there's a good chance I would have gone there even when I transferred if Rodney Peat

wasn't as young as he was and already entrenched as the starter But so I never I mean it was a great rivalry and wanted to beat him. Unfortunately, I lost the two games I played against him, but But I've always I've loved their uniforms. I've loved you know, I've been an I don't have I don't have the hatred towards USC Like some of my former teammates do we do get back to Troy in a second He's brought to you by Thursday Night Football. It's on and it's only on Prime Video this Thursday We got a clash in the NFC West the 49ers face the Seattle Seahawks We've got Al Michaels Kirk Herb Street Kaylee Hartung for the latest chapter in this bitter rivalry

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Now here's more Troy Aikman. So UCLA obviously in the big 10 now, not the best start to big 10. I'm a big 10 guy and you have to work with one. How much does it suck that like for once in basically the history of all college football, Joe Buck gets to talk shit to you about Indiana being better than UCLA. That would, if I were in your shoes, that would drive me nuts. If you, if you played for the school and Joe box wearing his Indiana stuff and, and probably giving you a lot of shit. Yeah. That, you know, there was a couple of years ago I said, uh, something came up, the player was from Indiana. He mentioned it or something.

Uh, and I, I said, Hey, I, I'm a little, I'm surprised. I didn't realize they still played football at Indiana. And then, you know, then you're like, okay, now, now I should get on Twitter because I'm going to get blown up. You know, these people are so sensitive about everything. And, and, and now just a few years later, I'm outwardly being supportive of, of Indiana. I mean, so I was watching them play UCLA a few weeks ago, didn't know anything about this coach, Coach Cignetti, Carl Cignetti. And I mean, how about that guy?

What he's done is amazing. So all of a sudden I've become this huge fan of this guys and now I'm a fan of the Hoosiers. So I'm talking to Joe every, like I'm a bigger fan for the Hoosiers than he is. Oh, I like that. Yeah. I actually think when I think Indiana football, I think Troy Aikman first. Yeah. Joe Buff second. That's a fact. I love that because you know, he hates that too. You know that Joe hates that. You got to learn every player on the two deep and just be like, just spouting out

names. Like, Oh, I guess you don't watch Joe. You didn't know the backup center. Yeah. You know what? I love that. Yeah. But I like that. I like that you acknowledge when you think of Indiana football, you think of Troy. I read, I read a rumor. I read a rumor that when you're in the booth on Monday football, you're wearing the Indiana pants underneath the desk. We can't see that, but Joe doesn't have his on. Yeah, he's not bringing it like I am. Yeah. Hoosiers, Troy Aikman.

Mr. Hoosier. One in one. I have a question about coaching. You obviously, Jimmy Johnson, you know, you had a great coach in Dallas. He goes to he's a hard ass. I would assume like you have many stories about him and how he coached the team. He then goes into media and he's like those lovable likable guy. We've seen the same thing with Belichick who was a hard ass for 20 years and now he's this gregarious guy on air. When Jimmy made the switch. You like what, what's going on, man?

Like you were cutting guys when they were sleeping. Like what is happening here? Or did you always know he had that side, he just wouldn't show the team? At the end of his time in Dallas, he and I became really close friends. So I got a little glimpse of really what he was about, but still not... Jimmy was, he was highly driven and

motivated to be great. So he will try to tell you that he played a role, he played the role he had to play in order for us to achieve what he wanted us to achieve. I think, I don't think it's quite that simple. I think that what he was, uh, we saw, I think that's who he was, but at his core. At his core, he is what we see on TV. Yeah. At his core, he wants to be, he just wants to enjoy life. He wants, he wants to drink his beer and just have fun. And I think that that's how he has always been his whole life.

But in his profession of coaching, he wanted to be great. And to be great, and same with Bill, to be great. I just don't know. I know times have changed, but I don't know many coaches if you said, boy, they are like one of the greatest to have ever done it. I don't know how many of those coaches we would point to and say they are players coaches. Yeah. Oh, I think it's hard. I don't.

And I don't. I was drawn to guys like Jimmy Johnson, Bill Belichick, you know, I Bill Parcells, Those types, those are the guys that I always wanted to play for because that's kind of how I'm wired. I mean, I want to have a good time, but when it's time to work and it's time to get serious, I just want to know somebody is going to be there holding us all accountable. And so, yeah, he's taking, you know, Jimmy has certainly and Jimmy and Bill or Belichick are really close friends. And Jimmy would be the guy to tell me, hey, because I'd go in, I'd go in and visit with Bill

in production meetings. And the what you see of him or saw of him at his press conferences was what I got when I went in there and was talking to him, you know, it just wasn't, there wasn't much there. Yeah. And I'd say, and I'd ask Jimmy, like, how, how do you get along with this guy? I mean, how, how does it work? And he goes, ah, he's great. And now, uh, now the whole, the whole country has gotten a chance to see,

you know, what his personality is. And obviously he's a smart guy and he's great. Now what'll be interesting is when he goes back into coaching, uh, if he has this persona again, where he's going to be the old grumpy coach who doesn't answer questions, I mean, it's not, I don't, I wonder how effective it's going to be. Cause now we're seeing this other side of him, of course in the media. Yeah. So you said something there. I wanted to do a follow-up on, on accountability. And I was always wondering this cause we we've had Michael Irvin on this show before he tells

great stories. Everyone knows his famous stories. Was there ever a moment in the nineties where you're like, he came in maybe late or something like that, where you're just like, come on, dude, because it does feel like his talent was so special. He maybe got away with more things in Jimmy Johnson's eyes. Was there ever a moment where you're like, all right, you need to, I need, I need a little help here. Um, well he got away with more. Jimmy was always, Jimmy and our first team meeting every year made it real clear. He's the only coach that I've ever had who would do this, but he would

say to the team, I do not treat all the players equal. Everybody says, I treat everybody equal. He says, Jimmy said, I do not. He said, if you're Emmett Smith and you do this and do something wrong, I'm gonna look the other way. If you're so-and-so who hadn't done anything on the field and you do that, you're not gonna be on the team. You're gonna be cut. So you're gonna be treated based on how you perform in the games.

And the better you perform, the more leeway you're gonna get. He's the only coach that's ever been that honest. I mean, every coach does that. Let's, I mean, we all know that. Right. Jimmy was the only one who admitted it. So,

Michael, Michael always knew how, he always knew where to push the line, you know? So he was gonna take full advantage or whatever leeway he was afforded. But Jimmy did a great job. There was a game, we were going to Detroit. And Jimmy was one of these guys who always did, he got on the plane early.

Like our meeting, our first team meeting that we ever had with Jimmy Johnson, the meeting was at nine in the morning. At 8.45 he started the meeting, players were trying to walk in, he shut the door and wouldn't let them in. And they're like, he said, you're late. They're like, look at their watch and it's five to nine. And he said, when the meeting starts, that's what time the meeting is.

And if you're after that, so then everybody got into the meeting room 20 minutes before the time for Jimmy. So that's how Jimmy operated. So we're playing in Detroit one week and we're flying out at 1 p.m. or something for Detroit, the team charter. Michael shows up at 1250 and he said,

"'Shut the door, we're leaving.'" And they said, or coach, Michael Urban just pulled up because, "'I don't care, shut the door, we're leaving.'" So Michael was getting out of his car with his luggage. He wasn't late, but in Jimmy's mind he was, so he shut the door and we took off without him. So we're all on the fly going, man, we just left Michael back on the tarmac.

Michael had to take a commercial flight. We benched him for the first series and then he came in off. So Jimmy did little things like that. Once Jimmy left, I think Michael realized that he was afforded a lot more leeway and then he took more advantage of it. But Michael is a really special person to me and I have a relationship with him

unlike any other relationship with a male that I know of. And the reason is that no one worked harder than Michael. Nobody showed up and gave it everything. I didn't care what Michael was doing when he was away from the facility. As long as it didn't impact our ability to practice or what we were trying to do in a game, I was fine. And never once did I think that whatever he was doing away from the facility was affecting his play. And I love him to death, think the world of him. He met my mom my rookie year, my mom passed a couple of years ago. He met my mom my rookie year, he gave her the biggest hug, made her feel like a million dollars.

My mom knew of some of the indiscretions that Michael had encountered over his life. But she passed loving Michael Irvin. And the reason was is because he made her feel so special. Every time he saw her, he'd go up and give her the biggest hug. And that's Michael. I mean, you guys know him. He's he's just the really loving guy and everyone I know loves him and And it's it's given him a lot of grace, you know His life for sure. Yeah

Yeah, I mean the the personalities on that team and then after Jimmy you had Barry Switzer Who's who's a wild man in his own right a little bit, wearing the fur coats, having some fun. He liked to drink a couple beers too, right? Yeah, he's into wine now. And he's still, from what I gather, he still gets after it pretty good. Barry's 86. I was with him this past summer.

He looks fantastic, sharp as he can be, funny as all get out. The guy is, he's an impressive guy. I mean, it was tough those years that he was the head coach. It was challenging for me. And I think it was for some other players, probably on our team, that, you know, Barry hadn't coached in quite a while. He'd never coached in the NFL.

So he was on his couch and I don't blame him. He took the job, you know, he got offered theed in quite a while. He'd never coached in the NFL. So he was on his couch and and and I don't blame him. He took the job. You know, he got offered the job. He took the job. We were defending world champs and, you know, he gave him an opportunity to get back into coaching with a with a really good team. I think it was really. It was the hiring of Barry, I think, was more

an indictment on Jerry in maybe. I don't want to say how little regard, but but when he when Jimmy left, Jerry was Jerry famously said, any one of 500 coaches could have done what Jimmy did in winning back-to-back Super Bowls. And I think the hiring of Barry kind of showed what Jerry thought the importance of coaching was to the success of our teams. And I'm a believer in the,

like I've always believed at the collegiate level, if you have really talented teams and average coaching, you can win a lot of games. If you have average talent, but have really great coaching, you can win a lot of games. But in the NFL, you got to have great players, you got to have great coaching. I mean, you really got to have both if you're going to be, if you're going to consistently be good. And so I, I, I'm one that puts a lot of value on, on the importance of coaches, whereas I'm, I'm, I'm not certain. I'll let Jerry answer that, but I'm not certain Jerry does. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, we were talking about this a couple of weeks ago that Jerry has kind of, maybe he's learned from that because he's in recent history, he's been very loyal to his head coaches. Uh, yeah, I guess so. I, I, I don't know. Uh, I, I don't know when you say loyal, I, I, I, I'm curious as to, as to why you would say that, but, um, Jason Garrett stayed for a long time. Mike McCarthy's, it feels like it might be, he's won a lot of football games to Cowboys, but it feels like he's been, at least from the outside world talked about as on the hot seat for a long

time. Yeah. I think, you know, with Jason, uh, I don't think Jerry ever wanted to have to fire Jason. I think he was hoping that Jason would be his Tom Landry and would be the coach, uh, until you know, long after Jerry passes. But uh, when he was in the so-called hot seat, those, they had good years, you know, long after Jerry passes, but, uh, when he was in the so-called hot seat, those, they had good years, you know? And so then he'd get re-upped and, and, uh, you know, but yeah, so that's, uh, that's, that's where, that's where, that's where that's at.

Yeah. Hey, have you ever met Jay Z? I've not. Do you think we'd look alike? I didn't say that. I was just asking. It's a segment we do. We say, uh, it's a think we look alike. I didn't say that I was just asking Wait, it's a segment. We do we say it's a question. We ask everyone. Have you ever met Jay-z? Oh Really? Yeah now that you mention it. Yeah, hold on No one around saying I look like Jay-z Yeah, I mean you do you do it was that was a cool. That was a very funny observation Have you guys have ever hung out before?

Never been in the same room is what you're saying? No. No, I've never met him. I feel bad for him that people think I look, you know, that he looks like me or I look like him. But I do think now in the mean, I don't know if it was doctored in any way or not, but I do think we look the in the mean, I don't know if it was doctored in any way or not, but I do think we look alike in the mean. Yeah. But, but I don't think we, I don't think we look alike at all. I think it is a funny meme though. Just be ready for that. Like Jay Z, if somebody,

if the police ask him, Hey, this looks like you at this Diddy party, he might say that's not me. That's Troy. That's true. Yeah Yeah, that's true. You saying I better buckle up that I might my feet Have some alibis ready. You never know not that you do anything wrong. That's true. It's a good legal defense. Yeah Well, Tray's been awesome I have a couple last questions. I'll do the Roebuck question right now. Roebuck.com R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roebuck.com promo code take. Who do you have as your Super Bowl right now? Week five, five. So we can, you know, things are going to change, but if you had to pick a Super Bowl and winner right now, who'd you have? Oh, this is going

to be boring, but uh, I, I just, I would have a hard time going against Kansas city. Okay. You know, they haven't, they haven't even played their, they, I don't think they've played great football yet and, and they're five and oh, so, uh, you know, they're obviously in a great position and they're only going to get better. Uh, so I would, I would say Kansas city again, and I would stick with who I would have said to begin the season. I would go with, uh, San Francisco. Okay. Oh, he's staying with the Niners. Yeah. I like that. Yeah, it's good. Have some loyalty to your take. Uh, memes. You want to, you want to let that person in we have We figured we finished the interview how we started it. Let's see if he's coming in

We have Jay-z for you yeah No, we have this the second the second biggest Indiana Hoosier football fan that we know of Joe buck yeah Joe things have not gone well for you in this interview because we've declared that Troy is the number one Indiana Hoosier football fan. Well he was saying he was saying that everyone knows that when you when you think of Indiana football that that you know that I'm the first person who comes to mind. That's a fact. We did say that and we believe that. Well, I'm only here because I heard that Troy was doing an interview and he was trying to do it by himself and I, and I thought I'd just jump in. Yeah. Oh, Hey Joe, contract, right? Whenever Troy shows

up, Joe has to be there too. Yeah. Joe, you never talked to a, to Troy about us. That hurt our feelings. We, our first question was a, to Troy about us. That hurt our feelings. We, our first question was how often does Joe bring us up? And he's like, literally never. That's the only other way out of arrowhead stadium last night. Did I ever brought you to a, to a Detroit eight? But that's true. So I told him, I said last night for the first time, you know, I mean less than 24 hours ago. Damn. You're trying to hide a big part of your life. You're ashamed of us.

I don't like that about you, Joe. Yeah, but I was effusive in how you two people have changed at least some of my perception out there in the Twitterverse, the universe. I mean, I love you guys. You know that. And I told Troy, I was like, these guys are great. They're going to give you shit. You got to be able to get back at them.

Don't get fired, but go in with your hands up and be ready to spar. Well, what we did for you, that was nothing. Because what we're about to do for Troy in the Indiana Hoosiers in his fandom is going to be on overdrive where the memes are going to be crazy. That's all it's, it's Hoosiers and Troy Aikman. That's they go hand in hand. Say, say, say, say Indiana football is undaunted. You want me to say that? That's their thing. People will love it. Oh yeah. Well, Indiana football is undaunted. Yes. Yes. No, that's going to be in a video. You're making a three time Superbowl champion. Your puppet. No, no, no. We're making a three time Superbowl champion. Fuck with this. Go home. Yeah. We're fucking

with you. All the roads lead back to Joe. Go. Yeah. Sting Matty, baby. Here we go. Oh, Joe, Joe, Joe. That's choice team. Come on. Yeah, you shouldn't be doing that. I didn't grad. Neither one of us graduated from there. Joe's trying to jump on my bandwagon. Yeah, it's disgusting what he's doing. That's disgusting. Joe, this isn't really a question and it's not directed at anyone in particular, but America misses you in postseason baseball. I'll just say, I'll just say that. Yeah. Believe it at that. Well, where were all these people for 24? I'm glad he's not doing baseball because, because when he would do baseball,

he would leave and I wouldn't see him for a month. But, uh, but I, I, I agree with you. And it really is, it is amazing how many people share that sentiment that y'all have, because when I'm with them, there are people constantly, especially this time of year, that tell them how much they miss him doing baseball. We miss him. Well, I think part of it is I just did it long enough where people just associated my voice

with kind of October baseball some people Hated it some people loved it. I loved every minute of it. I'm glad I did it But I'm also glad that this is a football only life in in my world these days It's just it's it's better Then also God basically told you never to do baseball again when you tried to come back for one day this summer and it was rained out. Yeah, that literally happened. It literally happened. I come back one day and it's like, it was just, yeah, nope. Have a nice drive home.

We don't want this guy. We don't want this guy. Well, Troy, thank you so much. Joe, thank you as always. We're like, you're, you're now a recurring guest. So that means you have to come on. Joe knows I'll just text him randomly and be like, Hey, you want to come on? Yes. Say yes. Legally. Let's, uh, let's all come back on when, when my Hoosiers, uh, wrap up a Rose bowl bird. Love it. Go to the game with you. I'll be here. I appreciate you guys. Yeah.

Thanks Troy. Thanks Joe. Thanks guys. Thank you. See you guys. See you. Bye. Okay, I'll take this one PFT.

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Okay. Let's wrap up the show partner take listener submitted go This guy's take or girls who knows the major sports should all have 17 games like the NFL I'm in basketball baseball and NHL games would be a thousand X more electric if there were only 17 games before the playoffs Much better than all the meaningless regular season games people love NFL and college football because it dominates one day a week and all the games matter On first glance this sounds flawless Yeah, I'm in but then sports, but then what do we do during our weekday nights and like so may

Yeah, true. I think if they made it if they made the schedule correctly where it was like, Tuesdays and Sundays are MBA, Mondays and Thursdays are NHL, Wednesdays and Saturdays are college basketball where it's like, you know what day has what and it's like that day becomes the biggest thing ever I like this solution, but I think we need to read to expand it a little bit if we had only 64 games Yeah, we should probably make it a little bit bigger than that. I think I think there should be 52 games of every sport including football Oh, I like that every Sunday. There's football, but that would every Monday night. There's football every Tuesday There's basketball every Wednesday night. We got hockey

50 game schedule for basketball hockey and baseball would rock year-round What if it's no sports in the summer except like the Olympics just yeah, but just everyone has to agree to play golf Yeah, yeah everyone everyone no work either. No work Yeah, the whole I mean, that's what Europe Europe. Yeah, Europe does that yeah, I like that I do think that there's something to be said for they'll never do it because owners want all the money but NBA and NHL could be a little like 60 games would be awesome. Yeah. Yeah, there's too many games right now baseball, too Yeah, yeah baseball should be like 120 but again, that's never gonna happen. No Yeah, it's crazy how much of a difference there is between playoff baseball and regular season baseball it's nuts NHL is not as

Drastic but baseball is just it's so boring and then it's so electric. It's every second is electric Oh, did you guys hear this take? I think it was Ken Rosenthal that talked about it He wrote an article about the Padres and about how like the Padres are quickly becoming not America's team Oh how he hates the Padres flashy This is a great quote. He said Machado is far from the Padres only irritant Fernando Tatis jr. Is a smiling dancing peacock Oh, which is awesome. I you know what I love it because it's we've said this a million times before.

But Ken Rosenthal having this take is what keeps the world alive. Yeah, now that Bob made an angry man about little little short angry man angry about things that are so inconsequential. Yeah, clutching his pearls. He said jerks and pro far as the kid who pulls the fire alarm at school and then asks, who? Me? That kid was fun. Yeah. We all knew that kid.

Yeah. Maybe you were that kid. Yeah. That kid was fun. You know what? Without that kid that pulled the fire alarm, we wouldn't learn about fire safety. That's also a fact. Yeah, that was a good kid to be friends with.

Saved lives. Yeah, that was a that was a good that was a good kid to be friends with saved lives a Simple question in late of this morning's news is Aaron Rodgers the LeBron of NFL old Period gets coaches fired period ayahuasca equals vino period getting his children on his team even though they might suck Parentheses hack it lizard etc. Yeah,, he does do the getting your, your friends or, uh, children. He absolutely does that. Overrated doesn't have enough championships, despite how good people say he is. Oh, I like this Hank. Right. Yeah. You think LeBron's overrated? Yeah. What if I said LeBron was the second

best player in the history of basketball fair So he's sometimes overrated by one Yeah, yeah This is I don't know what memes I've been rooting for this forever, and it's happening to you You need to find you need to watch it fixes everything you need to find everything's fine hit the da Vante button I'm not just fan obviously, but I think if you were our just fan if I was a just fan I could sell myself on

If you get to Vante, it's like alright old coach gone new new coach great player And Roger's can figure it out. We're gonna be fine. Yeah. If you don't get Devante, over. Yeah, I think the best way to fix this problem is by getting a malcontent wide receiver into a locker room with absolutely no leadership. And the best way to negotiate is to be like, the only thing that will save us is this one guy. Raiders, will you trade him to us?

So it's all about Woody. Does Woody wanna win? This will go well. We also don't talk enough about the fact that your owner's name is Woody Johnson Yeah, his name is Woody and his son's name is Brick Johnson. That's kind of a cool name. Yeah, they're getting harder for Johnson I Think the NBA and other leagues that do Western Conference first Eastern Conference is better I know there's history with AFC and NFC, but I think a division with more regional makeup is better. Wait, what? Basically saying the NFL should be... Make more sense? It should be like baseball used to be before

interleague play. Basically like, I guess... No but that's not what he's saying, because baseball... No he's saying like Eastern vs. Western Conference NBA. Yeah, that's the only thing that he's saying. Okay, cuz cuz he's saying basically like the the is the NHL Like the Eagles should be in the AFC is what he's saying. Yeah It should be East West and I mean NHL is similar to right? Yeah, it's all similar Yes, so who would be the divisions if we split it into East West? Just the Eastern Division with imagine that FC East and AFC East

Yeah, you'd have like you just yeah Patriots. Yeah, just be West It would be pretty much like hockey Yeah, we're like the NFC would be like Bears Cowboys over West you six. Yeah, yeah, six divisions. Yeah. yeah mm-hmm I don't know that sounds crazy generally I like the things I like things the way they are I do too I because I understand it and I get it but it's not always the way that makes the most sense yeah I mean I yeah I don't I don't I don't know if I can go for this. Let's see You guys see it on the TV. Nope. Nope. We see NHL homeless Stanley Cup. We see a commercial. There's a hockey cheffle

Commanders would be in the vision with Ravens now we see boobs Eagles. Why'd you put tits on your hand? Steelers, why did you put tits on Aaron Rodgers? and Steelers, why did you put tits on? Aaron Rodgers are there tits in What are their tits on the screen? Yeah on Aaron Rodgers you photoshopped it? Memes you dirty dog. That's it. Yeah, it's AI Shane's not doing it Shane nice chargers He texted me this morning cuz we were out doing a video at like 8 a.m. Me and memes

He's like hey, I think I think my package came can I open it? This is been the most hype sweatshirt of all time, and it looks cool Dia de los Muertos Thank you to the Chargers hooking us on great holiday What is the significance? It's just as a Chargers sweatshirt with the Chargers logo on it. I think it's like Mexican heritage. It's Dia de los Muertos, which is like there, it's kind of the Mexican version of Halloween where they just celebrate everybody that's dead. Oh, now this is all making sense. Shane's going to use this on a date. Could. Yeah, Shane. It's a great holiday. Nice and spicy.

Yeah, Shane. It's a great holiday. Nice and spicy Yeah, look at that smile Okay, but it was just funny that you're like it's here Can you like it was it was basically like a kid being like is it can we open the presents yet? It is a federal crime to open someone else's mail. That's good point. That's true. I just that's true send a text That's good. That's good point way to check That's right. I just that's true. It's not a text. That's good. That's good point way to check Okay, is that it? There's a couple more Would you agree to your team winning the Super Bowl in exchange for you never being able to watch another NFL game? Afterward for the rest of your life. Oh, no one to watch the Super Bowl season

But you have to write off in the sunset like John Elway and never watch another game Would you would your team be guaranteed to never win? I? Would do this. So the question is, would I watch my team watch win a Super Bowl, but then I'm not allowed to watch my team or I'm never allowed to watch football. Another NFL game. No, I can't do it. That's too far. That's too far. Now what would it be difficult if it was saying you can watch your team win a Super Bowl this year, but you'll never get to watch was saying you can watch your team win a Super Bowl this year But you'll never get to watch again or you can watch for us your life But it's a guarantee your team will never even go to a Super Bowl. I

Think I still would have to watch Yeah, I mean I'm gonna watch regardless life without football would be brutal. No life at all Brutal oh my god, I can't even think about it. I just move abroad. The only way I would consider it is if my team won a Super Bowl and I'm not allowed to watch football anymore but my team continues to win Super Bowls but I can't watch but I just know that I'm a champion. Yeah. Okay last one. Has a hip drop tackle been called in a game this season? I can't recall seeing one called. Want to get your opinions on the NFL enforcing this rule only by fines and not during a game.

Seems like it misses the point of preventing injuries if it is not enforced in game. Yeah, I don't think I've seen one. In fact, I've seen a couple of hip drop tackles that should have been called that weren't called, but I don't know that I've seen a ref throw a flag on. I feel like this was the NFL just trying to scare defenders before the season be like, Hey, this penalty now don't do it anymore. Right? I've seen them. Yeah. The call have happened. Yeah. I think someone's even been injured on it. Yeah, they just don't call it. It's just such a weird thing that they tried to legislate because it's like if you tackle from them behind and

then you use your body weight to bring them down. It sounds a lot like a normal tackle the way they describe it. Yeah. Yeah, I'd agree. Okay, good questions. Should we do numbers? PFT and memes? You ever gotten this? No. Nope. You guys have never gotten this? Sadly, we have not. PFT again one day. Memes is gonna get it.

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