Pardon My Take - Uconn Head Coach Dan Hurley, Final Four Is Set, Who's Back Of The Week And More
Episode Date: March 28, 2023The Final Four is set and just as we all expected San Diego State, FAU, UCONN, And Miami are going to Houston. We talk about the weekends games including Nate Oats all time choke job on Friday night (...00:00:00-00:37:28). Who's back of the week including NBA storylines with Lebron coming back and Kyrie ruining another team (00:37:28-01:03:58). Dan Hurley joins the show to talk about Uconn's run to the Final Four, what he drinks on the sideline, how he built this team, his paintings and tons more (01:03:58-01:38:58). We finish with Jake's recap of March Madness and the lottery ball (01:38:58-01:51:45).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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the final four is set, and we have Yukon head coach Dan Hurley on the pod. Great interview.
He's the absolute best. A lot of fun talking to him. We talk about the weekend's games,
starting with what we missed on Friday all the way up till Sunday. We have some NBA stuff,
we have Who's Back of the Week, we have the lottery ball, no Hank, you're not even trying
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Welcome to part of my take today is Monday, March 27th, and we have a final four just as
everyone expected. Yukon, Miami, San Diego State and FAU. That's right. Yeah. It's the
four most beautiful cities in North America. We've got Boca, Miami, San Diego and stores
Connecticut. Love it. Love it. Paradise on earth. Paradise. If you just, if you just tell me those
four cities are playing in any sort of athletic event besides probably surfing, I would say,
yeah, it's going to be Connecticut. Yes, it's going to be the team for it's going to be the
tough team from a cold weather city. Yes, the biggie. So we have a, it's crazy, March madness,
crazy tournament. I was joking before, but like before all season long, all the talk was there's
no really great team. There's a ton of parody. It's, you know, there's not this one team. Maybe
you could say Alabama, which we'll get to that has risen above everyone else. And then we get to
the term everyone's like, can you believe this? Yeah, I can. It's crazy. We have a nine seed,
two, five seeds and a four seed. Yukon is the highest seed remaining as a four seed. A lot of
people out there really believed in Purdue. So let's not act like they weren't a great team going
into the tournament. It is the first time in NCAA tournament history without a one, two,
or a three seed though. Yes. So even for a wild year, this is the wildest year of all time. We
didn't have a one seed in the elite eight because Alabama and Houston both eliminated on Friday
night. We also have three teams that are going to their first final four and then going up against
the team that will further cement themselves as the best team in the last 25 years. So in terms of
multiple winners in the last 25 years, Yukon has four, Duke and UNC both have three apiece. This
would be Yukon's fifth if they could finish the deal. And then you have FAU, San Diego State in
Miami in their first ever final four. Yeah, it is justice for the mountain west because we took a
big steaming shit on them at the start of the tournament. Which was totally realistic. People
were like, you shit on them. You guys got eliminated in 10 hours. And we pumped up the
big East. We pumped up the big 12. And now it turns out that the mountain west has more teams
in the final four than the big 12 does. And they have the exact same amount as the big East. Yes,
the mountain west definitely gets to laugh. And also the big, the big one is the first ever triple
crown, I believe is conference USA. That's what they're attempting. So Charlotte won the CBI,
of course. North Texas and UAB are still alive in the NIT and FAU in the real tournament. So
you have a chance for all for the conference USA to sweep the board. Yeah, FAU, shout out FAU.
They're a fun team. Every game that they plan, it's like, who was the team in the NBA playoffs,
the T Wolves last year, the Timberwolves? Yeah, they won the championship. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that was incredible. But it's like, there's something about FAU, they kind of make every game
fun. It doesn't matter who they're playing against. They are also like the perfect embodiment of how
insane this tournament is because in the first game against Memphis, they should have lost,
they were down with seven seconds left. They got a very favorable jump ball call. It's a sliding
doors moment. And they go all the way to the final four, like this tournament is will drive you insane
because those bounces can be the difference between like a program defining run and being
bounced in the first round. It's nuts. And FAU, yeah, Dusty May, former Indiana. He was not a
water boy. He was the he was a student manager, student manager. He's going to be on the show,
I think later this week. Incredible story. Does this count as a as another title for Bobby Knight?
Bobby Knight was the head coach of that team. He was. I wonder what tips he picked up for
him. Yes, yes, well, we will ask him that. So let's talk about the games because we should
start on Friday with Houston, you know, the team that a lot of people thought had the best chance
being eliminated by Miami got absolutely like trucked by him. I felt like that was one of those
games where we were watching it and we're like, Oh, maybe Houston will pull what they did against
Auburn and just suffocate him in the second half never happened. And then Alabama such a shame to
see a guy like Nate Oates completely, completely botched that game with probably the most talented
team he'll ever ever have in a horrific, hilarious fashion. Because I know there are a lot of people
out there just rooting for the feel good story about Alabama. It was bad. Brandon Miller had
like a statistically improbable tournament. I think he had the worst shooting performance
of anybody that has ever played in the NCAA tournament. He was injured. So we should say
that he didn't have a great injury, but Nate Oates, I don't know. It's like pick your poison
following down to with 47 seconds left when you're one of the best defensive teams in the country.
That was bad. Or how about when San Diego State went on a 12 will run, refusing to call a timeout?
Nate Oates, though, I mean, credit to him, he's on the golf course right now with two timeouts in
his back pocket. He ended the game with two timeouts. The fouling was really bad. Really. I think
most people even basketball, I know ball, but some people out there watching on TV were like,
you know, I don't really understand this game, but even I as a dumb ass understand that you
don't foul in that situation. You shouldn't fall in that situation, but we should give credit to
San Diego State. Oh, yeah. San Diego State, their fun team. They, I think they were, I read that
they were ranked in the top 10 in 2020, right? When they canceled, when they canceled the NCAA
tournament. So this is their shot at redemption. It also San Diego State watching San Diego State
play. They play incredible defense. They're all over the boards. They, they are though one of
those teams that anytime they go down like six or seven in a game, you're like, it's over. They
can't, they, how are they going to find these points to come back? And they've been doing it.
And they just, they've, they, they haven't been rattled. And it's been like every single game.
They've found themselves in spots like we got to find offense and they did it. Do you remember,
I think it was like 2013, 2014, San Diego State was a part of the big East for like a week. They
were, they were going to be during realignment, during football, I think they were realignment
just makes everybody forget everything they know about geography. San Diego State was going to be
part of the big East. Yeah. I don't think it was official, but it was like one of those, this is
the proposed. Yeah. Yeah. And it made no, no sense. It would be like putting UCLA and USC in the big
10. That'd be dumb. Really dumb. Stupid as shit. Very, very dumb. But yeah, San Diego State,
incredible on Friday night against Alabama. Nato has never been to, he's, he's, he beat Arizona
with Buffalo in his first season in the tournament and he's never beaten a team as a lower seed
since, or sorry, he's never been, he's never been a lower team, a higher seed. And he also,
I think it's, he's never beaten higher than an eight seed sense as well. I think we have to
ask the question is Nato it's on the hot seat right now. I mean, listen, we talk about guys
choking poor Rick Barnes gets it all the time. Yep. If you're a seven and a half point favorite,
if you're the team that everyone is looking at, they had a dream set up in their bracket
when everyone went down and they couldn't get to the elite eight. I'm officially putting,
putting Nato it's on my hot seat. I agree. He's got to turn it go at least one year without a
murder to get off this hot seat. And let's be honest. Let's, let's just have an honest conversation
with Alabama fans real quick. It's still football. You still have football. Like who cares? Yeah,
you still dominate football. Your football team will always be great. Nick Saban is the greatest
coach. Like don't, I don't really like when, when football programs that are that elite are like,
Hey, let's give it a try. Be an awesome at basketball too. You can't do that. Same thing
with Texas, except without all the recent success in football, right? But you're still a football
school. Right. Exactly. I do think that Sark would have been, he would have been secretly mad
if the basketball program had won an NCAA championship before he got to do anything
big in football. But that's the thing is like, if you're an Alabama fan, that game sucked.
Nato did a terrible job coaching down the stretch, but you have Nick Saban. Yeah, you don't want to
listen. This is time for Alabama fans to be scouring the message boards, doing the flight
trackers, figuring out who you're recruiting. It's like Saban doesn't want to have to worry
about Saban probably wouldn't have gone to Houston for the final four, right? He's too busy
recruiting. Yeah. He's out there on the path right now. This is, or maybe he would have,
maybe that's your silver lining. If you're a Alabama fan, this gives Nick Saban
more time, three more days more time to recruit. Yes. Good for you. You'll take that. Yes. But
yeah. So Friday night was the stunning no, no one seeds in the elite eight. We found that out
Friday night. We go to Saturday FAU versus Kansas State at the garden. Marquis Noel,
the story of the tournament. I thought they were going to, you know what, when he passed up the
three with like eight seconds left and made a perfect pass, I was like, that was it. That was
it. And, and credit to Dusty May and FAU because I think every single game they've been down like
late in the fourth and they finished games so strong. And that's what they did on, on Saturday.
But they were, they basically watched a Michigan State game and they're like, Hey,
why don't we let him shoot a little bit more than let him pass and just get easy layups
all over the court. And he still had an incredible game, but it was clear that they're like,
we'll let you shoot more often than not and not let you just throw dimes everywhere.
And he didn't take that bargain on the very last play that I wish he had taken that last shot.
That was, that was his moment. That was his moment to become a God. He's already a legend. He would
have been a God. I still would officially like to offer Marquis Noel position on the New Zealand
breakers as owners of the team. Let's give him a shot. We'll give you a shot. But just so you
know, Marquis, New Zealand's a beautiful country. We'll take you if you don't get an offer in the
NBA. Yeah. And he's going to have a great career no matter what ends up happening. I would actually
say that a lot of players that end up doing the thing where they go to Europe and they play for
12, 15 years and they bounce around Europe all the time, they might have a better life. Yeah.
The guy that makes it to the NBA gets paid a shitload of money and maybe doesn't get, you know,
doesn't sniff a championship. Maybe you're coming off the bench. You don't do so well in the NBA.
You still have like that microscope under you all the time. It gets it. It's probably grueling
with the travel schedule and all that shit going over and playing overseas in Europe or in New
Zealand or Australia. That's probably a pretty good life. Yes. So they probably he's probably
going to be okay. But I really wanted him to take that last shot. I did too. Big Cat and I,
this is a classic moment. Part of my take. We have this a lot where our brains sync up on cycles
like we're sorority sisters. Yeah. Getting on the same period when Marquis Noel threw that bounce
pass between his legs. It's too good. It was too good of a pass. Too good of a pass. And he had
another pass that happened maybe like 30, 45 seconds before that where he hit a dude, absolute
dine. Yeah. And his teammate wasn't ready for it because they're like, there's no chance that he's
going to be able to hit me with a pass from right here. He's too good at passing. Get him to the
next level with better players. And then all of a sudden they'll be able to step their game will
correspond to how fucking good Marquis Noel is at passing the ball. And I had a when we both had
that thought and I treated it. I had a mini win moment where someone was like, you mean the pass
that he threw it to the guy who wasn't ready for it. And I went to reply to him being like,
hey, if you're playing with Marquis Noel, you have to always be ready for a pass. That's how
good of a point card he is. And the guy had deleted his tweet before I could reply. And I was
like, yes, here we go. You don't know ball. I was going to just dunk on you. Preemptively knew
that he was wrong. But it was clear like, Dusty May, I know that he, I think he went,
he went seven, four, 18 against Michigan State. So he had 20 points, 19 assists. He went eight for
21 against FAU. He had 30 points, 12 assists. So it was like, hey, we're going to let you shoot.
We're going to give you a little room to shoot so that you don't just get all these insane passes
on us. And it was a great game plan. Again, Marquis Noel was phenomenal, but it was, it was,
it was unfortunate. And we had also ran into the college, which happened on Saturday night as well.
The five fouls just suck in March madness because Keontae Johnson had his fourth foul so early.
And it was like, we want to see these guys play. Yeah, that was tough. He wanted to stay in the
game. And when he was playing defense, I've never seen a guy do this, just put both hands behind his
back and just move around. He's like, I'm not going to get called for a reach in. I'm not going to
get called for hitting somebody on the arm. I'm going to put literally both hands behind my back.
You look like a blocker in like co-ed flag football. Yeah. Or like one of those, one of those
tackling dummies. That's the robot that just moves around. No arms whatsoever. True. Timmy did
that to start the game on Saturday night because he was like foul troubles. The only thing that
could be really problem for us, even though it ended up, everything was a problem for them.
But he was basically playing with four fouls right from the whistle. The other part of this game
and FAU is a really, really good team. I think it's weird because they won their, we've talked
about this. They were nine seed, they won their conference tournament. So everyone was like, oh,
it's just one of those other, you know, nonpower conferences. They won their tournament. They're
in here. They would have made it as an large team. They're a really good team and they've
been playing really good ball. But Jerome Tang stole my heart going into the FAU locker room
after the game and coaching them up and telling them how proud of them that he was. I just think
that's the classiest move a coach could ever make. I thought it was really nice because sometimes
after a game, a coach like that will stew in their own locker room. Yeah. And to see a coach do that
where he didn't even know the cameras were around. Right. And he went in there. He didn't see the
camera falling. He did for the kids. He went in there because he's like, Hey, I want to congratulate
these guys. It's about them. It's not about me. Right. Let's talk to these kids and make sure
that we can, we can give them a boost going forward. I hope you guys win it all. That's so
classy. What a great thing of him to say. So coach T great job. Listen, all time. Great. I'll say it
right now. You know, if my kids are ever good enough to play Division one basketball, they're
not going to be. I would say I want them to play for a guy like Jerome Tang. That's a guy. Well,
not just as player development, but to mold your son into a young man or actually what let me say
this, I just want them to have a chance to play against Jerome Tang at some point because you
know that coach coach Jay will someday come in and coach the other locker. And it's just
that's what marches those type of moments where you see a coach being like, you know what, it's
bigger than sports. I'm going to go in. I'm going to talk to the opposition, congratulate them,
not making about me, making about them. And I loved, I love, love, love that moment.
It's for the kids. Hank, did you see that? Yeah, I thought I was a little self centered.
That's weird. Just really selfish. Why? He was congratulating them on winning. He literally
was being like great job guys. I'm so proud of what you did. I just think he was making a lot of
moves trying to try to make it all about himself. Bringing in random people to pump the team up.
You're so cynical, Hank. This is why you don't know ball because it's it's it's different at the
college level where you're trying to these are amateurs. You're helping young men. Yeah,
it should be about the other team, not about you. Well, what he did make it about the other team,
he said, I want to go congratulate by him walking into that locker room. He put the spotlight because
he knew that, you know, people are going to talk about whatever coach Jay, coach Jay, whatever
coach Jay Jay does at the time, he knew that the spotlight was going to go off him and onto
the kids that deserve it. You should have more coaches like this. Disagree. Okay. All right.
Well, again, you nailed it. You're cynical, cold hearted fuck. Shout out FAU though. FAU. I love
the owls. They're fun to watch. It's also fun to be able to love the big man. Tweet the Lane
Kiffin picture. Oh, I was going to say excited. They're doing it for they're doing it for Uncle
Jr. Yeah, he doesn't go down there enough. Yes, down to Boca. That's a fact. But yeah,
they're a fun team to watch. They're the I think they're doing it for for Flacco at the Central
Park Owl. I think that maybe there was some owl magic going on there. I'll give I'll give Flacco
a pizza party of dead rats. Yes. It'll be I'll do a pizza rat. It'll be a pizza rat for Flacco
the Central Park Owl if they win the Natty. No, they're fun to watch because they all can shoot
and yeah, I like this is not a fluke. I know that we want to do the Cinderella thing. I don't
I don't feel the same way about FAU as I did maybe a George Mason who Jim Laranega. I think it was
17 years to the day going back up against Yukon. Yeah, that he took George Mason to the Final
Four. He got Miami to the Final Four. Yeah, they're the George Mason Center. I always forget his
name. He had the biggest ass in America. Yeah. And it was at the height of the Antonio Gates freak
out of wow, I can't believe this basketball player is now playing tight end. So he said I'm going to
try it for the NFL as a tight end. I think he ran like a five to 40. Well, maybe maybe not this guy.
That also that game the George Mason Yukon game and we can say this now because Yukon's back in
the Final Four. That was the epitome of like you can tell the inner competitor of guys because
Rudy Gay was like he was built in a basketball factory of like this is what you want in a college
basketball player and that team had no soul. They had no soul and George Mason beating them
was very fun upset. But Yukon absolutely warped Gonzaga on Saturday night and ass kicking. Drew
Timmy is still has a year of eligibility. We should at least say that he said that he wasn't
going to come back. He said that to Gonzaga. Yeah, no, he said he said that he's done everything he
needs to accomplish. He was there for four years. So he's out after the season, but he did not close
the door on transfer. Yeah. And it also was such a crazy game because a buddy of mine texted me
during the game. He was like, if you had told me like 10 years ago, Gonzaga will be playing Yukon
and I would be rooting for Yukon as like the team that hasn't been there in a while and being sick
of Gonzaga's shit. It is crazy because Gonzaga was the team that was in it every single year.
Yukon's been down for a while and now they're back up there and Danny Hurley's got the boys.
We're going to talk to him in a minute. He that team just fires on all cylinders like they just
when they get it going when they get in transition, Sonogo or as Charles Barkley was calling him
Sonoco, big man hitting threes. They do everything. They beat you every single way. He says he said
after the game, he calls him the gas station because he can fill it up. Yeah, which is a great
spin zone. Yeah, it was a great sparkly just literally did not know that his name was Sonogo.
I don't think people complain about Charles Barkley during March Madness, but if they do,
I want you to go get hit by a bus because I want one guy who's sitting on the panel who not only
hasn't watched college basketball, but also doesn't really care to like educate himself,
just firing off takes. It's fun. Yeah, you have Jay right there to tell you about the game and
like to teach you what's going on. Charles Barkley is there to say Sonoco for a guy who's like one
of the best players in the country. Yeah, I want I want Charles Barkley there just to have him
making fun of Kenny Smith. Yeah, exactly. It works. It's like, okay, don't mess with Charles Barkley
could commentate on any sport. I don't care what is they had him on on was it TNT for the NHL
tonight? He was awesome on that. Yeah, just get him and biz together, mix it up, talk about their
buttholes. Yeah, and his suit is ridiculous. His suit is there was a side angle picture of his
suit like fully flapped out. He's just wearing a parachute. Yeah, it's got so much fabric. I think
all the kids out there need to go home and they need to watch old YouTube footage of Charles Barkley
playing in the NBA and just be shocked at how athletic he was. Yeah, just look at him right
now. He looks like a bowl of melted oatmeal. Yeah, but dude was dunking on people. He was he was
getting rebounds over everybody. Yeah, he was an awesome player to watch breaking backboards and
shit. The short shorts at Auburn him and Thunder Dan Marley together. Yeah, yeah, they were I
don't think we talked about Kevin Johnson anymore. No, no, right. He was been he's been erased from
I think Kevin Johnson. One of the he was one of the one of the mayors of Sacramento. That's one
of those ones where it's like, ah, something happened, but I didn't read about it. Something.
I think it was a lot of some things that happened. Yeah, some things. Okay. So yeah, Yukon back in
in the final four, I'm expecting Husky Nation to be in droves in Houston because it is a team that
has a storied past, but had a dip where they haven't been able to be there because there was a while
there. I mean, like I said, 99 to today they have four titles. No one else has four. There was a
while there where it was like every year you knew Yukon would be in the mix. You could plan your
trips around it. Now they went through that dip. Now they're back. I think it's going to be just
all Yukon fans. Yeah, I mean, all Yukon fans, but you could think about like the people in Boca.
Are they going to make the trip because no, you're not going to leave Boca to go to Houston,
Texas. Right. Even though it's the first time, probably the only time you'll ever be in a final
four. Miami. Nope. Probably going to stay in Miami. Nope. San Diego. Why would you ever leave
San Diego to do anything? Miami fans are probably going to stay there and just get angry about Mario
Cristobal and whatever he they think he's done wrong. Yeah. In the off season. Yeah. It's all
Yukon. That's a there are a lot of teams where they plan these trips just to get out of their small
college town and to be able to go somewhere where you don't have to put on a big like the the puffer
jacket. Yeah. So yeah, it'll be all Yukon fans down there. Yes. If you see somebody that's wearing
a San Diego state of any sort of shirt, jacket, any paraphernalia, chances are about 99% they're
related to somebody involved with the program. Yes. Yes. So see a Gonzaga still falls short.
Final four. They'll never get there. It's tough. It does feel like I'm sure they have some awesome
recruits coming in, but Drew Timmy. I wasn't a personal fan, but you can't knock the guy for
being an all time college basketball player. Like I think he went to the sweet 16 every single year
at least and he was just always there. Yeah. He was he was just doing awesome moves in the post
and he even had one last moment where they were down 10 and he dunked and he stared down the the
fans and did a little flex. It's like, dude, you're down 10. But I kind of like that because he
didn't change to his dying breath as a college basketball player. He didn't change who he was.
Yeah. That's it. Goes back to the game against Baylor where he did the mustache celebration.
How many were they down down 15? That was that was bad. The crying sorority girl dancing and
and yeah, he's a great college basketball. I don't know where he'll probably play overseas
somewhere. You saw it last night when they just didn't even have him on Sanogo from the start
because they're like, this is not going to work. We know that that's not going to be a match up
that he wants, but I will miss him because he college basketball as you get longer, you know,
with the transfer portal and everything not to be an old man yelling at clouds, but like you
don't have those same heels or villains on each program. So he's kind of a throwback where it's
like every March you remember Drew Timmy and it's fun to have those guys around. Speaking of players
that your dads will love, not just Drew Timmy, but Golden on FAU is all time dad love. Vladislav
Golden. He's the big fundamental when he catches the ball in the paint. He keeps it high. Yeah.
Every single time you can't, you can't steal the ball. If it's up high against a big man,
a lot of big men bring it down. Texted my dad. I was like, you see how he keeps that ball high
in the country. Keep it high. He also is a great big man because they'll be like one or two times
a game where he'll get caught in a pick and roll and his feet just won't work and it's, but he's
still like he's, he's, he's not athletic. Yeah. He's athletic, but it's, you still need to have
that happen every now and then just be like, okay, he can't just totally dominate every single part.
It's actually, it's shocking watching Golden play comparing him to Zach Eadie. Obviously,
Zach Eadie is like a much bigger human being, but watching them run is, they couldn't be more
dissimilar as athletes. So it's extra four inches, dude. Golden, when he runs, he looks like an
athlete running. When Zach Eadie runs, it looks like his feet weigh 70 pounds a piece. Yeah.
It's the extra four inches. Seven feet to seven four is significant. I've always been at the
mindset that tall players are actually at a disadvantage against a normal sized player like
myself because it does take longer for their brain signal to go from their brain to their
extremities than it would for me and my body's just built way more efficiently. I just also
assume any tall, super tall NBA player just hates playing basketball because they're like,
you play basketball, you're seven feet and everything has this like running, practicing,
living, being alive. It all has to kind of suck. I think most players over seven feet play basketball
because the alternative is you walk around and everybody that you talk to asks you, do you play
basketball? Where did you play ball? Yeah. There was an article, I think at the New York Times last
week that was saying, stop asking tall people if they played basketball. I just want to say,
I will never stop asking tall people if they play basketball. It's an excellent ice breaker. Yeah.
If you're over seven feet and you're also very athletic looking, it's not, did you play basketball?
It's where'd you play ball? And that's even worse. I would have the assumption that you played
somewhere. I would have a business card if I was seven feet tall that just said I didn't play
basketball and just handed to people. Stop asking. Yeah. I was actually, I was actually really sick
at soccer when I was 12. Hakim Elijah won. He was a goalie. Yes. Yes. And Sonogo, we talked to Danny
Hurley about this as well, doing all this while fasting all day. So he's been incredible. Max,
real quick, you hate Yukon. I have a future on Yukon. It's the only one I've left. I don't want
you to ruin this. So I'm asking you nicely. Stay the fuck away. No, I just love the Big East.
Okay. This, this is a final four. Now I understand why you hate this guy. No, Yukon is taking it
for the Big East and conference as a whole. You hate them. You're such a bad actor, Max. Yeah,
you hate them. What do you mean? Well, that's why people, that's why people love Max is because
when you see his freakouts, they're a million percent genuine. Yes. Max just lives in that rage
so people can smell you being a phony a mile away. No, this is, this is,
I'm just wearing this on my sleeve. I'm really hoping for good things for the Big East.
Okay. Joe Huskies. Okay. All right. And then Sunday we had San Diego State Creighton,
the game with a foul with a second left that everyone got very upset about. And I understand
why they're upset because that's what sports are. The one, the one thing, it did suck because you
want to see a game like that go to overtime. It was funny. And I even said this like shitty ending.
It wasn't a great game before that. It was kind of a shitty ending for like, it was a defensive
battle, not a lot of shop making. We've seen some great games this last weekend. That wasn't up there.
But yeah, I, Creighton fans, you have every right to be upset. Like I think that was you,
I think that was a foul. You can make the argument that ref shouldn't call it at the end of the game,
but that's kind of hard to do. I think it's a foul, but yeah, but it's a foul that happens
all the time and it's not called. So regardless of when it happens in a game, I'd say that that
foul is probably not called 50% of the time. Yeah, it's like you were taken then at the end,
since it's just like a small push on the hip, I would be pissed off if I was Creighton. But on the
other hand, you know, you just have to kind of live with the fact that it was, it's not like he
didn't touch him. Yeah. Even Creighton fans will admit like, yeah, he touched him and on a floater
like that in the lane, it definitely affects your release and it affects your shot. It's a bad shot.
Yeah. The guy should have put forth a better shot, but it was definitely a foul. It's just
not usually called. Yeah. And that was my take right away. It was just like shitty ending,
but it was a foul. And I felt like you ever seen that meme where someone's like,
like, I love waffles. And then the first reply is like, why would you shit on pancakes like this?
That's what I felt like being like, how could you, how could you ever say that that like,
they should never have called that? You're fucking, you're lying right now. It's like,
I admitted it was, I do not want to see a game ended on the free throw line. That sucks. I did
see though, one person had a great idea. Mike Greenberg's dumb rules. If a foul is called
in the last like 10 seconds and it can decide the game on free throw line, you have to make both.
Oh yeah. It's just like the, you just, you have to, you have to go make both.
If it's a tie game. Yeah. You have to go make both to count.
Yeah. Otherwise it doesn't count. I don't hate that. Now that has nothing to do with the fact
that he missed the first one and then made the second one. Yeah. No, no, that was, yeah,
nothing to do with it. Nothing to do. They would have said that anyway. Also,
break both of them. Our friend Tom Frinelli said that, because there is the argument like,
oh, you can't call that there, which if a foul happens again, that might not have been called
all the time. But if a foul happens and they call it, it's like, well, yeah, that was a foul.
He was saying that in the last minute, there should just be no fouls and you can just assault
everyone. Prison rules. I like it. And so then we do away with the, you can't call that at that time.
Yeah. So then you can't call that. It's helpful because it does give Creighton some much needed
copium. They get to cope on that being like, you can't call that foul right there and they get to
point at that and be like, we would have made the final four refs fucked us over. It sucks for
Creighton fans, right? But at least you went away. Like if you lose as a fan, you at least want to
take something with you that you can hold on to. Like if you're a Gonzaga fan, I actually did see a
couple of people doing like game change when Timmy got his fourth fouls. No, it didn't. They were,
they were getting wasted. Like if you get absolutely wasted in an elite eight game,
you have to just walk away being like, we weren't very good. Like we weren't on that level.
If you lose like Creighton does, in 20 years from now, you can say that foul call and people
at the bar would be like, yeah, that was bullshit. We would have gone all the way. You basically get
to become Uncle Rico for the rest of your life. You didn't lose to San Diego State in the Aztecs.
You lost the refs. Right. Exactly. It's hard to beat a team and the refs. It's a great consolation
prize to lose and have someone very obvious that you can play. Right. It's like the Eagles,
they didn't lose the Super Bowl. The guy that put the grass down. Correct. Cost the Eagles Super Bowl.
What do you think? Watching that game, Max? Good question. What, the Creighton game? Yeah. I
was just rooting for the Big East. Right. So, so I mean, I was upset.
You know, it's as someone who's had those calls called against him, do you think you can call that?
Yeah, you know, it's a foul. So, in the end of the game, sometimes you just need to call fouls.
Well, you were also rooting for San Diego State based on 2013 when they were in the Big East for a
week. Yeah. Correct. Also, yeah. So, basically, we have two teams. We have two teams in the
Final Four and the Big East is back. That's right. Yeah. You both your Big East teams in that game won.
Correct. It was a win-win. It was a win-win for the Big East. Easy. Yeah. Yeah. No,
but the villain, the Alan Ray Phantom, Phantom Travel in like 2003 against UNC in the Sweet 16
still haunts me today. Right. It's the exact same. But you get to carry those with you forever.
Yeah. And you get to say. I still think about that team. Yeah. Justice Swinslow is out of bounds.
Like, you get to do these things forever. Miles Jack wasn't down. Yeah. It's, it's, it really is the
nicest consolation prize. It's tragic in the moment. But I think once you get away from it,
a couple of weeks away from it, you're like, you know what? This is nice that I have at least
one thing to be angry about forever. This is more loser talk from us. But I, I would absolutely
love it if the commanders lost to Superbowl based on a completely blunt. Fuck. I would,
I would love if the commanders got called for a passenger clearance against the Rams like the
Saints did and had the refs take away an opportunity to go. Yeah. I would count that as going to a
Superbowl. You get to just complain about it for the rest of your life. Yeah. And that is,
in some ways, better than a win. That's kind of our lives. Yeah. Right. Right. Exactly.
Except for Hank. And then Miami, uh, all time comeback. I mean, maybe not all time in terms
of the point differential, but in terms of the way the game looked, Texas was in cruise control.
They were up 13 with 10 minutes left. And then Miami just was like, let's do this car got hurt.
And I think he would, he didn't come out of the game except for a couple of seconds on Friday.
And a car was obviously not himself when he got back in. That probably played an impact
also. He was hot. He was, he was, he was very good. Was it Cunningham? We missed a couple open
threes in the second half. Yeah. It's tough for Texas. This is, this is not going to be an easy
one to get over. Yeah. But Jim Larenega, easy guy to root for Coach L. Why don't we call him Coach
Inye? Yeah, we should. Coach Inye back, back in the final four. Did he dance after this game?
I don't know. He was, he looked awesome. I'll say this for an old guy. Forget about even for an old
guy. Coach L has got sick moves. Yeah. I wish I could dance like him right now. Yeah. Yeah. He
claps on the, on the twos and the fours. Yep. And, and Miami also has a couple of great names
with Isaiah Wong and then Wuga Poplar. Like they got some good names. They, they have a little bit
of, you need those things like the old coach, the story lines, never been there. They have,
I'm not going to say their team of destiny, but they got some shit. They got some shit going.
They got some shit to them for sure. And they're a good team, very good team.
Team of destiny rankings. I can't include Yukon because Yukon, destiny signs are pointing too
strong at Yukon. But when we talk about teams of destiny, it's usually like the, the fucked up
small little stats. Yeah. Like why is this team going, I would say
FAU feels like a team of destiny. Yeah. Dusty May, like they'll show him in the, you know,
Indiana sweater standing behind Bob Knight. Yukon's just going to win. Yukon's just going to win.
Yukon's going to win. All right. Oh, you're going to get it on this too. Here's what we need. We
need somebody. I don't want Yukon to win. I'm going to be honest, but I think they're going to.
Somebody out there needs to convince us, convince us why another team is a team of destiny. Because
I want, I want to even halfway believe in another team, but right now it just seems like Yukon is
going to destroy everybody. Yeah. I mean, that's the way they've been playing. They've been absolutely
dominating besides Rick Petino's Iona in the first half, making every shot. Yukon has been laying
waste of teams. I think they've won by double digits every game. Yeah. I'm going to San Diego
the week after the championship. So I'm remembering for San Diego State. I think the city will be,
it'll be cool to see the city like on fire. Yeah. Go to the parade. Yeah. Can you imagine
if Boca, what Boca would do if FAU won, it would just be like the mobility scooters.
Yeah. Parade of old people just driving around, hawking their horns with like real high-pitched
electronic beeps. We do have a history with FAU. We do. That's the site of the original
Ponzi scheme awareness bowl. The wet the beak Ponzi scheme awareness bowl.
Yeah. So we've always rode for Boca. We have. Yeah. We really also, Jake, Anthony Rizzo,
he's from FAU. Yes. Yes. He's a winner. Yeah. He is. Until he got to the Yankees.
True. That's true. They ruined him. All right. Let's do quick head and then we'll do some maybe
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Golden, Colorado. Should we just do who's back because I have some NBA stuff we can just, yeah,
wove it in, weave it in. We'll get into it. Yeah. Okay. Who's back of the week?
My who's back of the week is LeBron James. That was my who's back. Too small.
Too small. He came back. I played against the Bulls. They lost, but I think the real story
is just the fact that he came back afterwards. He was quoted as saying his foot injury was
actually a torn tendon and the doctor said he healed from the injury faster than they've ever
seen. That's incredible. Most normal men would not even be able to get back in the season. LeBron
came back in a losing effort. Well, off the bench. Off the bench. He came off the bench. Was
that the first time in his career he's come off the bench? No, there's one other time they said.
I would like to just implement a rule. You should not be allowed to do the chalk toss
before you check into the game if you come off the bench. Basically, you're just,
you're littering and you're polluting the air and you're making everybody around you cough.
It also, people were saying it was not nice at Pat Bev to do the too small to a bench player
because that is... What's a bench on bench? Yeah, that's true, but it was awesome. He was doing this,
he was holding his nose on the way out too. Yeah, Pat Bev said on the Pat Bev show,
Barstle show, he said right after he got treated, he's like, we have two back to backs against the
Lakers. I want to beat them and get them out of the playoffs. He's one and oh, yeah. I love that Pat
Bev hit him with a too small off a fade away. Yeah, so he did like a spin away, broke him down and
then before the ball even went in, he did the you're too small. You're too small LeBron. Did
you guys talk? I mean, Ron's on the yack with you big cap. Did you talk about how viral the
Jersey Swap with Pat Bev's mom was? Yeah, that and also... It went nuclear. Ron went to the
Bulls Sixers game and he tried to do a Jersey Swap with Pat Bev, but they lost so Pat Bev didn't
want to do it. They lost like 40. Yeah, and he did it with his mom instead and the internet went nuts.
A lot of people were looking at Pat Bev's mom on that one, on the quote tweets, making all sorts
of comments about about her figure. Yeah, I want to say for the record, I didn't I didn't even notice
that she had dumped that wouldn't quit. I did it until I read the quote tweets. Yeah,
other people alerted you to it. Yeah, that's a bonk. I didn't say anything.
Yeah, it's probably a bonk. She's a full figured lady. Yeah, no, they've been going viral. They
went viral too for Pat Bev saying he keeps his legs fresh doesn't have sex on game days. Yeah,
I feel like that's that's just like an auto viral story anytime an athlete says that.
Yeah, the Jake Paul unless you had the... Yeah, the wet dream killed it.
Ruined him. Also, who's back is LeBron James Lying. So that's back big time because Woj put
out a report last Thursday, I think, saying that LeBron is is targeting coming back for the final
week of the season might get a few games in a few of the most important games of his career.
And then LeBron replied to it and said there wasn't an evaluation today. There hasn't been
any target date for my return. I'm just working around the clock every day parentheses three
times a day. So embrace debate is three times a day around the clock or is it three times a day?
Because it doesn't sound like he's working around the clock. Yeah, to give myself the best
chance of coming back full strength whenever that is. God bless y'all sources. Face palm emoji.
I speak for myself. So he said that there was no target date. Things hadn't changed in terms of
his timetable. And then four days later, he healed fat or three days later. Healed faster than any
man ever before in the history of sports has healed. He also thought he could come back and
just beat the balls. Bulls have been there. They're on fire since PEPF trade. Ready to go.
Looking at that ninth seed. Huge, huge. Yeah. So one, two, three, four. He's got eight of the most,
including today, eight of the most important games of his life. Yeah. Listen, LeBron James,
the play, the playing game is better when LeBron James is in it. Yeah. Yeah, it would be fun.
It'd be great. I'm sure one of you guys has this as your first step, but it'd be great if it was a
Mab's Lakers playing. Yes. Yes. Who's your who's back? Oh, yours is LeBron. LeBron line. Yeah. So,
so my who's back is Kyrie just laying waste in record time to another organization.
He called out the fans. It was basically like, if you want to criticize me, I'd love to see you try.
Take a lot of hard, hard work in years to get as good as I am. True. Good point, Kyrie. And then
also Luca came out and basically was like, I'm not having any fun anymore. He said, I used to have
fun smiling on the court, but now it's just been frustrating. It's it's what changed Luca.
Crazy. Is Luca going to leave the Mabs? He might after this. I'm not going to resign Luca. I think
he's they they got rid of everyone for Kyrie. Yeah. Yeah. If I was Luca, I would think about
leaving Dallas. He it's really shocking, even though it's not. But still, like for Kyrie, I
thought they'd at least get to like the playoffs and have it fall apart there to have it be these
quotes this early. And if the playoffs started today, they would not be in the playoffs.
They are lost to the Hornets outside of the playoffs yet twice. Did you see also earlier
today, Kyrie got a fan kicked out of the game. Oh, he pointed him out to the to the refs,
walked the refs over from across the court to the guy pointed at him said, get this guy out of here.
The camera zoomed in on the guy was like, what I do. He was wearing a Redskins hat and he was wearing
a DC night. He was a DC sports fan. Oh, damn. I don't know why he was I did see this.
But he got kicked out. And then there's you can see the look on this guy's girlfriend or wife
on her face that she's she's seeing her boyfriend get kicked out of the game before. Yes. In the
past. She's like, oh, we're going to do this again. Okay. Yeah. Okay, honey. Let's go. Yeah. It's
Kyrie. He does a great job of just making everyone hate him. It would be funny if Kyrie
kicked him out of the game because he was wearing a Redskins hat out. And that was offensive to
Kyrie. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't put it past him. No. I mean, he I think his mom was Native
American. Yeah. So yeah, that's why it does the sage ritual. Yeah, right. Cleanse the bad spirits
out. Right. But yeah, it would be he might have actually like taken so much offense to the guy's
hat that he kicked him out of here. Yeah, Luca just poor Luca not having any fun. I mean, Luca
could also try not complaining about every call ever. You know what I would love if Luca pulled
a James Harden and if he just got fat because like he does fluctuate from time to time. He has
the frame for if he I think that you give me a month with Luca training with him,
I could get him up to 300 pounds easy easy and he would look hilarious. My other who's back is
also NBA. Ben Simmons is out for the rest of the year. Oh, okay. Yeah. Not really. It's gonna be
scary. Not really news. But yeah, but I'm very close though to like flipping and being like Ben
Simmons, the king of like stealing money from teams. Yeah. He's the floss God. Like he's he's
getting I looked it up. He right now because NBA contracts guaranteed $203 million. He just doesn't
play good for him. Good for him. Yeah. I mean, if he was on my team, I would I would hate him.
Yeah. I would absolutely despise him. But at some point you gotta be like, you got $203 million
for being he was very good for a while. You know, I think he was first team all NBA one year.
But since then, he just hasn't worked as anybody made more money than Ben Simmons for not working.
I don't know. Nobody wants to work anymore. That's the problem with that is we got it. We
got it. We got to stop having NBA games played over zoom. Yeah, this is back to the office. This
is this is classic Joe Biden. I blame him for mentality. I take Max. Do you still hate Ben
Simmons or do you like that he's doing this to a different team? I don't give a fuck. I don't want
to think about Ben Simmons ever for the rest of my life. You definitely don't care though.
Because you were the reason why he has $203 million was the extension that he signed
for five years, $177 million. I hate Ben Simmons with all with every being in my body.
And I hope that all bad things happen to him. Nice. But in a way, it's good that he's not
playing now, right? Because he's stealing money from somebody else. Yeah, no, it is nice to see
that it it was like if he went on to another team and was an all star and like a superstar,
that would be way worse than what's happening now. Isn't this the American dream though
for for Ben Simmons? Yes. Like you come from overseas and you're like, I want I want the
American dream. I want to make a lot of money and I don't want to work very hard for it. Data
Kardashian. He's actually figured out the perfect life. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I flipped on
him. Yeah, I think I flipped on him. He is I think all first team money earner in America. Yeah.
When you compare it to the amount of work that he's actually done, he's a goat. Yeah,
because I was there was a moment there. I was kind of mad just from a basketball standpoint,
like this guy is so talented. If he could just practice shooting basketballs, which shouldn't
be hard. Well, just you're using the wrong hand. Yeah, using the wrong hand. But like
there was some there was some of that. But now I think I'm just down with him,
just taking money from and someone else will sign him. Like he still is kind of a unicorn in terms
of like ability other than shooting. I would love it if the Lakers signed him. Yeah, I know that
big time asset. Billy, you're who's back Kanye West. Oh, he's back. Do you guys hear? Yeah.
What did he do? He just said he's Jonah Hill, right? Yeah, he's back. Apparently Jonah Hill
made him not anti-Semitic anymore. Oh, jump street. Maybe Kyrie needs to watch Tony on jump
street. Okay. Kanye watched like a Mel Brooks movie. He watched Blazing Saddles. He's like,
you know what? The Jews are all right. Yeah. That's pretty funny. Very. He watched just
so he ripped through a few seasons of curb. Yeah. Yeah, this I like this show. And then my other
who's back is tampering. Turns out there's a guy going around for Lamar. His name is Ken Francis.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we love this guy. We did talk about it on Friday show. True. You weren't here
for it, but that's understandable. Perfect. Did you listen to Friday show? What happened? Be very
careful with your answer here, Billy, because you were about, well, was there a camera on Billy
when he was trying to figure out whether or not to lie? That was, that was an all time moment.
That was a good moment. Seeing the brain cells start to connect and then his mouth disagree.
I have a question, Billy. What happened with the airports? Okay, well, tell us the lie of what
happened. Okay, I'll tell you the lie. What you told us. I tried to, I tried to get into the airport
and I got stopped because I was on no fly list. That's what happened. Oh, that's the lie. Okay.
You should have been wearing your combat fatigue. Yes. Damn. Damn. That sucks. That was a terrorist.
Yeah. You went to pick someone up at eight 30 and then never came back because their flight got
delayed. Oh, you should have just told him Uber exists. That's the one thing that was the debate
that was like going through the internet a couple of months ago. I'm, I'm a promise to pick someone
up at the airport guy and then when it comes to happening, like can't get out of it. I was just,
yeah, don't do that. People like there's, there's certain people who expect you to pick them up.
Yeah. And guess what? Those people are wrong because those people don't understand New York
airports compared to the airports that they agree. Yes. Any other city, it's common courtesy. If you
have a friend coming in or relative, yeah, I'll pick you up from the airport. It makes for a nice
ride back. Sometimes they don't know about the Uber system, especially if they're like a parent
or a grandparent. So you pick them up from the airport in New York. It's borderline psychotic
for somebody to volunteer to pick someone up from an airport. It's any big city though.
It's LA, Chicago, Miami, Houston, like all these big cities just get in an Uber and people try to
flip it and say, Oh, you're a bad friend because you don't pick people up from the airport. No,
no, I'm a great friend because I would never in a million years ask someone to pick me up from
the airport. Yeah. The thought wouldn't cross my mind. Never. But on the other hand, if somebody's
asking you like, Hey, can you pick? Basically, they're saying instead of me paying an Uber fare,
can you pay double an Uber fare to have somebody else drive you to pick me up? I will pay for
someone else's Uber if they need it. Oh, easy. Yes. But picking someone up from the airport and
being like, let me just burn two hours of my day on fire. That's a psychotic move. And again,
if you live in like a smaller city and it's almost, you know, nice to go pick them up at the
airport, totally fine. Different story. In a big city, no, no, don't ever think about asking.
But the thing is a lot of people don't understand that. Just tell them. It sounds like, but it
sounds like a bit like, Hey, you know, it'll be faster if you just got an Uber. Yeah. And guess
what? If you do that, I'll go to the, you know, I'll go to liquor store and get us a bunch of
beer or I'll make dinner or we'll be ready to go when you show up. That's the way to do it.
Instead of whatever the fuck you did on Thursday. The thing is, it just kept on getting delayed
by 30 minutes, right? There's like 30 more minutes, 30 more minutes, 30 more minutes,
and you're just there waiting like, well, I can't really leave now. They're getting delayed in the
air. It was, it was at the time when they got up. We didn't hear from them because they were in the
air. And then by tracking, you realized there was the plane was circling. Got it. Yeah. They're
trying to burn off some fuel. Could have easily just taken an Uber. I'm mad for you. Yes. Yeah,
Billy. We're not mad at you. No, I'm mad on behalf of you because you were just trust me. I was just
getting fucked over the whole time. There's nothing you want to do more than work that night.
Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, I'm going to say on behalf of Billy football,
no one ever asked him to pick him up from the airport again. He's the answer is no.
And if someone does ask you, feel free to tag me in. And I'd be like, listen,
on behalf of Billy, no, get a fucking Uber. But yeah, Lamar has, he's got a fake agent that's
reaching out, contacting people. My question is, is Lamar Jackson a certified agent with the
NFLPA for himself? How do you have to go through that process? Apparently it only takes a couple
days. We could test, maybe. Yeah, we could do it. Oh, I want to become an agent. Yeah, you
should. Actually, I want to apply. Yeah, do it. That's my new project. Okay, it'll get done. It
will get done promised. That's what I usually say when I promise to do something. It'll get done.
We also have Billy, you're going to give us your recap of the tournament before the lottery ball.
So we'll do that because maybe Jake will hop in and be able to do it. He's Jake's on the
Mark Titus show right now. Oh, he won't. He already said no. I got a couple of storylines
that I thought were important. Okay, all right. Well, let me do it then right now. Let's do it,
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have you stayed hot? Are you still breaking Vegas? I'm Vegas one. Oh, no. Vegas one. But here's
some important things to keep in mind about the tournament. Okay. The nerds at Princeton thought
they were going to get bam in the second round, the next round. So for the first of many times in
their finance bro careers, avoided the SEC by all costs. It's good, Billy. I like that. Beautiful,
beautiful. Oh, sorry. There's a couple more. Oh, okay. Sorry. I didn't want, I wanted to applaud
if that was the end, but it's not the end. Must kept his shirt on because no one cares
about your physique. If the guy that beats you is Husky. Oh, that's good. Okay. Also,
Charles Barkley is going to have a whole lot more Husky women to be upset with at the Final
Four in Texas. Bama got beat because Brandon Miller wasn't dishing it to his shooters like
he usually does. That's good. Nice. Nice. The heat is hot. Last one. Okay. The most well-known
you Miami basketball players were not in the court as Miami upset Texas because the Cavender
Twins weren't there. Good, Billy. Very good, Billy. You forgot one easy one. There was a layup.
Yeah, there was a layup. Reports out of Tuscaloosa, Natoats has suspended Brandon Miller for
the rest of the year. I was, I was used a lot on Twitter on Friday night and like they finally,
they finally come down with a suspension. He's out for the rest of the year. Billy,
who are the Cavender Twins? They're actually playing right now against LSU on the women's side.
Yeah. What about them? Well, they're the most, they had the most following out of any you Miami
basketball player. Got it. Got it. I love kids. You can't bonk me. I'm bonking you. They're an NIL
like success story. They were in the New York Times for their business prowess.
Yeah. So I don't know what you're talking about. Kim Mulkey rocks looking like Rick Flair the other
night. She dresses like a drag queen. Yeah, it's awesome. But she's toned down tonight. If I were
a waiter and Kim Mulkey walked into my restaurant, she would get the best service I've ever given
anybody in my life because I know that she's, she's the type of person that would have like
$20 and ones out on the table. And each time I was like 10 seconds late coming to her,
she'd take another one off and put in her pocket. So this is going to be y'all's tip.
Yes. I also, I think Brian Kelly is officially no longer like a Northerner Notre Dame guy because
he was at the game sweet 16 and he was wearing just an LSU pullover with cut short sleeves,
which was just a terrible look. But I was just thinking about it. If it was Notre Dame in the
sweet 16 women's sweet 16, he'd be wearing some type of sweater, cardigan, something nice zip.
Yeah. He just, he looked like he had just come from spring camp. Yeah. Also, I think he's done it.
I think he's, he's now a Louisiana boy. Shout out to the Notre Dame athletic director that wrote
an article. I think it was in the New York times last week. Yes. That was basically saying name,
image and likeness is ruining college sports. King's Day Kings. I mean, if you're, if you're
the Notre Dame athletic director, you're like, I can't, I can't stand all the money that's being
made in college athletics. It was Jack Swarber. Yeah. This is ruining, this is ruining the sports
and the amateurism that we love. And meanwhile he's collecting probably $5 million a year,
if not more. Yes. I also, it was one of those things too where he wrote it, he got dunked on,
and it was unfortunate because there were a couple points that were not terrible.
Like he was, he was basically making the point that what does it serve a kid if they're just
transferring to a new school every year and they do five years at all different schools?
Like that probably, that kid probably isn't being best served going forward. It's like,
yeah, that might be a good point. I still think the kids should be able to transfer. And he also
had a point about how the schedules should work better for academics, like not making kids miss
a half of a semester because they're on the road, they're traveling all over the place. Like,
yeah, that's also a good point. But that's not how the internet works, Jack. No. You wrote an
article with the headline and we dunked on it. Yeah. But he also made a lot of bad points.
No, he did, he did. But there was a couple good ones. I looked up, he makes $3 million a year
plus other university compensation. Yeah. So he's the highest paid athletic director
in the entire country. He's got a vested interest in making sure that students don't receive any
of the financial benefits that the administration receives. No, I listened to him on Dan Wetzel
in Pat Forty's podcast, which is a great podcast, but he, he said something about
like Notre Dame staying independent. And he's like, yeah, we're never like we,
all we need is money and to be on national television. And guess what? We're going to keep
doing that. That's literally his job. He was just like, he was just flexing on everyone's like,
not going to happen. Yeah. And he makes a valid point when he says that a degree from Notre Dame
is worth a million dollars over the course of that student's entire, you know, post athletic career.
Once they enter the work for, yeah, it's good to have a degree from Notre Dame.
Absolutely. But at the same time, it's like, wait, but it's also good for them to make money
based off themselves while they're in college. Yes. And just let them do that. Yes. There are
going to be some evils where people transfer around, but guess what? Coaches do that shit all the
time. Yes. Yes. Also Ross Dellinger's on that podcast. I don't want to forget him. He's been a
great addition. Okay. We got sidetracked with a bunch of stuff. Did you bet on this game by the
way? PFT Miami LSU? I did not. I did not. This was not a Mr. Women. Mr. Women has been ice cold.
Dr. Women is Dr. Women has been reported to the board for numerous allegations of fraudulence,
but it's okay. It's all right. It's a long tournament. I'm still breaking. I'm still up.
I'm still up. Dr. Women is up. So just to recap, Billy's system went bankrupt.
PFT's women's system went bankrupt and I was too much of a coward to do the system that I was
going to do because I'm a fucking scaredy cat. My system's not bankrupt. We're doing well. We're
doing well. It's not bankrupt. We just need to reevaluate some things. And so we'll get back
in the lab and figure things out. We should talk about fancy baseball. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. So it's
baseball season. That's my who's back actually is baseball. Yes. We're turning on Thursday. The big
bases. I'm all in. You guys know that we're a big base podcast and we're going to be entering a
fantasy baseball league, but we want to do it with an AWL that has an extra spot open in their
league with their friends. So PFT and I will co-owner team. The Seamhead Express. Yeah,
the Seamhead Express. So yeah, we want it. I haven't played fantasy baseball in a decade plus.
Hearing you talk about it, you've accepted me. So I want to do it. I'm one of the best
fantasy baseball governors in the world if you just take out the postseason. Yeah. So let's do it.
So any AWL who has an extra spot in their league that's drafting the next few days, email Jake.
Yeah. Email Jake. What's Jake's email? PMTinternetbarsalsports.com. PMTinternetbarsalsports.com. Tell
us what, you know, the history of the league, because we don't want to don't make a league
all of a sudden out of the blue and be like, here, join it. We want the history of the league.
Send screenshot over of, you know, past years. Yeah. And if you want to do,
we also would be totally fine if you want to vote one of the current members out
and give us that spot. Yeah, definitely. Maybe the guy that lost last year. That would make it
a really fucked up and awesome for us. And we'll have some sort of prize for the winner. How about
that? Yeah. Or the guy that won. Or the guy that won. You guys can decide who's out. If someone
wants to vote out, uh, I wanted league that's been going on for a very long time, has some history,
has some friendship, vote one of your friends out and let us in. Oh, and also the draft has to be
when a time that's convenient for us. It's like Monday between eight and nine PM, Tuesday between
I think Wisconsin plays an NIT. I could do it. I could do it. I could, I could double screen it.
Eight and nine PM Wednesday between eight and nine PM. Okay. I'm going to get, I'm going to
get quirky to help us out with this draft too. Pretty tight windows, but I'm sure someone can get
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speaking of Dog Breeds, Yukon's head coach, Dan Hurley. Okay, we now welcome on a very,
very special guest. It is head coach of the Connecticut Huskies. Now in the final four,
the man, the myth, the legend, Danny Hurley. Coach, thank you for joining us. I'm very excited.
Congratulations, first of all, on the final four. It is one of those things that the March Madness
tournament is so hard to survive. You know that. And getting to the final four is an accomplishment
everyone should celebrate. I want to actually start, though, with last night. I don't know if you
watch the broadcast back after or see any of it. But I have one moment, and I love you so much.
I love watching you on the sidelines. It was 70, I think it was 73, 43 or 74, 44. You're up 30
with four and a half minutes left. And they caught you on the sideline screaming, what the
fuck are we doing here, guys? And the classic Danny Hurley scowl. People were saying, oh,
it's for TV. No, it's not for TV, right? Like that was, you were pissed off.
Yeah, I mean, you know, standard is the standard. We're going to play every possession like it's
the last possession, right? All the, all the great, all the great cliches, all rolled out into one.
Yeah, I knew my son was coming in a game shortly. And I really wanted him to score.
And I just, I didn't like the rhythm of the offense.
Up 30. I desperately, desperately wanted him to score. I see it, you know, it's funny too,
the one from earlier in the year, I think actually really hurt us during the season.
I don't know if you remember that one where I referenced the clown.
Yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, your scowl would put fear into anyone when you get that chin out.
Is there nights when you're like, I just know I'm going to get teed up tonight,
like when, even before the game starts, like I'm not in a good mood and I just know how this is
going to go. I know like earlier, earlier in my career, they actually tell you
like the morning of who the referees are. You know, you find out pretty early in the morning,
if you want to. And when I used to, when I used to check to see who was on the game,
you know, like if I didn't like them or if I had a bad personal history with them,
that would set me off like hours before and then the rage would build and the fire would burn.
And so then I, what I've started doing recently is I just, I wait till I get out there.
They actually put the papers on the doors too with the pick the referee's name.
And I just, like as I'm going in and out of locker room, I'm trying to just block it and not see it.
Because I know if I get certain guys, you just, I have such a bad working relationship at this
point, it can be hard to fix it in an intense two hours. That's hilarious. I read that you do
aromatherapy and you, you're a very chill, like almost Zen guy when you get into the office. Do
you think maybe you're too Zen, so you're bottling everything up and that way you step onto the court
and it just explodes? Yeah, volcanic. Yeah, that's true. I mean, that that
yeah, we only have a certain amount of willpower, right? And you got a great point, man. It's like,
I think by the time it gets to like seven o'clock or eight o'clock at night,
I guess just a lot of that, that shit, it just wears off, you know, the mindfulness, the Zen,
you know, when you smell the popcorn and you get to that fight or flight, I think I'm always
going to choose fight. Yeah, I also read that you're a cold shower guys. That's true.
Yeah, I'd like to go, you know, I like to go cold, I like to go hot, hot, cold, hot,
and then maybe even go back cold again, you know, so I'll go sauna 20 minutes, you know,
a 10 minute ice cold shower and then and then maybe if I still feel like I need it, you know,
I'll maybe even go back in and repeat because I think it's critical that I'm at my best. Yeah,
I'm at my best for the squad and you know, there's a lot of science behind that actually.
I like it. I like it. So, so big picture. I mean, obviously everyone knows your dad,
knows your brother, you have, you know,
rose up through the ranks, the hard way, high school, Wagner URI to Connecticut. And I read
a story last night that, you know, you guys were taking pictures on the court and eventually
you were just like, we got to get out of here. Like, there's too many pictures. Are you allowing
yourself a moment to be like, this is pretty cool, you know, my career and getting to this point,
obviously unfinished business, but it's a hell of an accomplishment and it's kind of like you guys
as a family have cemented yourself as basketball royalty. I think that's hard, man. To be honest
with you, it's hard for, I think it's just, it's hard, you know, for me and my brother in particular,
but just even in our family, you know, my dad, you know, the patriarch of this basketball thing,
you know, he just, he was never satisfied. He was never really happy with, you know,
how we were playing or how we were doing at school or, or, you know, what we were doing,
you know, on the street or just how we were carrying ourselves. So like,
just always had this voice in our heads that, you know, like that there's more to achieve.
You know, obviously, you know, like the goalposts are always, are always moving for most people that
strive for success, but I just think in our house, man, it was just so, so competitive from where
we were little kids. You know, we've been around basketball, we've been around competition and
we've been around like striving since we were babies. And, you know, even today, I think it's
just it wore off for me. And I'm just, you know, I'm just really starting to just get my mind
wrapped around like, you know, the Saturday game and, and, you know, the national championship.
Yeah, yeah. A few weeks ago, or maybe it was a month that you when you guys played Villanova and
you gave the famous press conference afterwards, get your wins against us now, you better beat us
now, because we're coming. What did you see in this team? How did you know? Because I feel like
that's not, that's not a speech that you would give. That's not a retort that you would give,
unless you were very confident that something was about to change with this team and you guys were
going to get hot. Yeah, it was, you know, it was the beginning of year two. You know, we had gotten
our ass kicked by Villanova at the garden right before Christmas in year one. You know, and year
one started off pretty good. You know, we beat Syracuse Garden. I had the chest bump thing with
my player. I went viral on that. Felt like it was going to be a little bit of a, you know, magical
joy ride. And then Villanova, they just, they beat the hell out of us right before Christmas at the
garden. And it really ruined the holiday, man. And, and then we played him in the next year at,
at, you know, in Philly on the road. And it was like a tie game with two or three minutes to go.
You know, our talent level was still nowhere near the place that you needed to be in a place like
UConn. I mean, you need, you need NBA players running around on the court if you're going to do
things that coach Calhoun did. And, and so, you know, I knew we had the talent coming into the
program. I knew that like, you know, we had lost like that, that losing attitude and guys were
learning how to work hard. I just felt like we, you know, and then obviously I believe in myself.
You know, I believe in, you know, the, I believe what my dad taught me in terms of how to be a
successful coach. Yeah. And speaking of that, like your season has been interesting because you guys
were red hot to start. You kind of peaked a little bit early January, hit a little bit of a bump.
And then, you know, obviously the march is when you want to be hot again. How, how, how did you
do that? What was the message to get? Because, you know, a lot of teams will fall off and it will,
the doubt creeps in and it starts to spiral. You guys have been able to find that second
peak that everyone kind of is after in the coaching world. Yeah. I mean, listen, any coach that tells
you, yeah, I know how to get my team peaking at the absolute right time. You know, I think they're,
you know, they're, they're lying. You know, I think for me, it was more about, you know, the big
east is, you know, the big east is a brutal league. You know, when the schedule sets up and you end
up like at Xavier, at Providence, Creighton at home, at Marquette, you know, you could find yourself
in a death spiral. And then, you know, now you end up with St. John's at home and you're, you know,
and you're not in a good way. And then you throw in a clunker and now the sky is falling.
So, you know, I think the league is, you know, the league is like a, it's like a cage match every
single night. But we built this team, I think, for the tournament play for, with an eye on being
able to be successful against non-conference opponents, where there's a little bit more
freedom of movement. The games are a little bit less physical and it's more of a premium on having
like three point shooting. You know, some guys that could light it up from three and then we got
these two centers, you know, like that that could just dominate. Yeah, I also should say, and I know
you don't care about this, but there was a little bit of my mush at play because I bet you guys to
win the national title. I think you lost like four out of the next five. So I apologize for that.
Is that a future? Yeah, it was a future. Yeah. And Yukon fans in January were like,
you motherfucker, why'd you do this? So you didn't know that was happening, but that could have
been part of the little slump. Yeah, I don't think it was, it wasn't coincidental. It also might
have been me at war with the reps too for, you know, probably a three to five game stretch,
which probably didn't help matters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As you get ready to go down to Houston,
how many, because you were running some incredible plays in the last couple rounds of the tournament,
how many new plays, brand new, brand spanking new plays, are you going to install and practice this
week? Yeah, several, you know, and PFT, I think what you try to do is, you know, you try to keep,
like the, you try to have a bunch of new wrinkles, obviously added like the same type of formation,
right? So stuff that we've been running where we've tried to get, you know, Jordan Hawkins or
caravan, Joey, California, you're trying to get these guys a three, you know, at that same formation,
maybe the wrinkle will be to get, you know, Klingon, you know, the seven foot two, you know,
you know, stud, like a lob dunk or a duck in. So we'll try to like add some wrinkles and different
things to kind of the formations so that, you know, you obviously have a chance to really
confuse the dude that's got the scout. Yes. What about for yourself? Because I saw there was,
after one of the games they had a couple of weeks ago, Bill Murray was telling you to take your
shirt off after the game in the crowd. And you shook them off. It was very rude. You shook Bill
Murray off. Nobody does that. Are you, have you told your team like if we win, if we get a national
championship tops off? Yeah, I just, I hadn't done, you know, I'm obviously bald. And I've got like red
dots on my head. But then I'm also I've got back hair. And I've done no manscaping at all.
You know, because we're still, you know, Jersey Shore is still, you know, months away. Yeah. So
there's no, right. So yeah, I was just known as a position to pull a muss. It also took a lot of
respect from us. I wasn't, I couldn't, you know, to troll him like that in that moment, I think.
And then Bill Murray, he's like part of, like, I met like, I met like, Chris Innings,
and like coaches meetings with him and we're scouting games together. I could just try to
say regular shit to him. Yeah, that's great. I think you should dangle that out there though.
As a carrot for your team, you win the national championship. We're going streaking right across
the court. Yeah, I'll join the extra incentive. No NIL. No, no extra NIL incentive. Just yeah,
I'll go straight. Let's go straight. Yeah. You mentioned obviously Luke Murray's on your staff,
one of your top assistants. And this was the other thing that came out from last night.
They showed the picture that you painted him after he took over as head coach for a game
against Seaton Hall that you guys lost. You're a terrible artist. You're a terrible artist. That was
like, I thought it was a joke. Like you, that was like a five year old strong. Don't give me the
scow. Yeah, I mean, what was the thought process behind the, did you, how quick, how long did
it take for you to draw that? Yeah, it was, you know, I, what I did was I went on YouTube and I
looked at like some like Bob Ross, you know, like some of like Bob Ross's techniques and I watched
some of his shows while I had COVID. And so I was under the weather when I did that one too,
not to make excuses, right? Great coaches, great athletes. They don't make excuses for their failures.
But I just, I, that's the level of my ability. I suck at it. I've started like five or six of them
and I'm embarrassed by them. I've made one, I've did a worse one than that. I did a skyline
New York for Kamani Young, my associate head coach.
Like a nighttime New York skyline. It's so fucking bad. I won't give it to him. But I signed Lukes
too. I signed autographs. I kind of like you. Yeah, for at least having a picture taken of that,
because I wouldn't have even done that. Art is subjective. It's in the eye of the beholder. I'm
I'm sure Luke absolutely loves that painting. Now I saw the painting and I'm, I'm still a little
confused. Is it a basketball court? It was a basketball court. First of all, he was sad too.
You know, he, we lost at the buzzer and he coached great and he took the, I mean, he took the bullet
for, for, for me being out. And I just felt like I needed to do something nice for him.
And we were sitting on win 15, I think, or something. So basically it was a basketball court
with the, with the Yukon red and blue with purple and yellow, because purple and yellow feel like
they're vibrant, just uplifting colors, not that he's a Lakers fan or, or I just, and then I made
little zebras like referees, and I made a little stick man. If you really, I made a little stick
man of him. And then I put the number of, for the next win that we had coming up, but he cherishes
it. I'll say this, if you guys win the title, and maybe even if you don't, I hope you do,
but maybe, maybe you can draw something for us. We'll frame it and put it in the studio
and just be like, yeah, that's a Danny Hurley original right there.
Yes. Yeah. We could auction it off. Yes. Yeah. We'll watch it off. We'll match.
I'll bring my shit with me. I'll bring my paint and my, my, my brushes and my, my,
an easel and canvases to Houston and my spare time. Yeah, I really do. We'll post topless for you,
if you need us to. Yeah, it'll be like the Titanic. We'll hold each other. Yeah, I'll have a,
I'll have a necklace on. You can draw me like one of your French basketball courts.
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Dan Hurley. You mentioned Joey California. This is one of those stupid fan things that we think
about that coaches probably don't think about. Did you have any talk to him before the Gonzaga and
St. Mary's game? Because I went back and looked and he was 0 and 18 against those teams when he's
playing at San Diego. We were like, Hey man, maybe maybe you don't play tonight. Like I don't know.
Like, I mean, obviously he's great. He's been incredible all tournament. Love watching him play.
But do you have any conversation with him being like, so I'm not going to ask you for advice on
how to beat these teams. Was he 0 and 18? 0 and 18. 0 and 18. Holy shit. Why did I even play him?
No. So like when we recruited that kid, it was like, there are other schools.
Like, and this is where like when you, when you, I don't want to say, you know, choke, you know,
and in your prior March performance, but the New Mexico State team is probably better,
you know, better than a lot of people thought, you know, they, and we didn't have a lot of shooting.
And, you know, I just, you know, Joey, we're recruiting him. We told him like, Hey, you
might not play here, man. Like we've got, we got Jordan Hawkins, you know, we got Andre Jackson,
you know, we took this other transfer from East Carolina, you know, we got some guards. But,
you know, if you're good enough to get on the court, like we'll play you, you know, and, and,
you know, this, and, and he could have went to like a lower level and been guaranteed to play. But
like, you know, he had the, he had the guts and the courage to be like, no, I want to go to UConn,
and I'm going to make you play me. And, you know, so like he's got this gunslinger's mentality.
And this little bit of this like California, you know, coolness. And then I dubbed him Joey
California because like I've only known him for a short amount of time and I couldn't pronounce
his last name. Yeah. Like, you know, I didn't recruit him for a long time, but like three days.
So all like this kept calling him Joey. And then when he got here, I just, I couldn't get his name
right. So I found a known his own 18. I wouldn't play him. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I mean, it's a crazy
stat. It is, it is a testament to your recruiting. I mean, you have three guys who are coming off the
bench who are all transfers and that's got to be a tough conversation to have with them being like,
look, we don't have, you know, a lot of the transfer portal stuff now is you can guarantee a guy at
the lower level that he's going to start and you had to go into their living rooms and be like,
you're not going to start, but you could be part of something special. Is that, was that pretty
much the message? Yeah. We, you know, we, we had, we had like two high level, you know, freshmen
coming in with, with, with Klingon and Caravan. Yeah. And then, you know, we knew that Andre Jackson
and Jordan Hawkins could play like NBA draft picks. And then you had Sunogo who was like,
you know, Big E's preseason player in a year. So, you know, the, the pitch to these guys was like,
you know, getting empty numbers at a school that isn't going to sniff March, isn't going to do much
for your career, you know, you're better off, you know, being a seven, eight, nine point a game
score on a team that could play for national championship. You know, they, they go play,
you know, and submit them middle to the bottom of a conference team that season's going to be over
and in the beginning of January, late December. Yeah. You know, they bought in and, and, you know,
now we're in the exact position that, that we sold all these guys on. It's a great story and it's a
great, I mean, it's great recruiting because it is, it is rare to see that, to have major contributors
be transfer guys who are not getting the starters minutes. Yeah. Yeah. I love watching your brother
coach too. He's a lot of fun to watch on the sidelines. If you were to give him truth serum,
like the truth drug, do you think he's a hundred percent, like a thousand percent rooting for
Yukon in the final four? Or do you think there's one percent where he's like, this motherfucker
better not get a championship before I do? No, he's, you know, he's a, he's a thousand, you know,
he's, he's a thousand. I don't, you know, there's definitely, you know, growing up, definitely
sibling rivalry, like, you know, like, you know, trying to outperform and outcompete.
And I didn't wear that real well when I played in college, when I was trying to chase him as a
player, man. That, that was a major, major problem for me. And I think, you know, him seeing,
you know, me struggle so much at Seton Hall when, you know, when, when he's on the cover of sports
illustrated and, and win a national championship seventh pick, you know, playing against a dream
team, you know, and I can't make a shot. And I'm, you know, and I'm getting booed at home games.
You know, I think our relationship changed a lot, you know, like we became a lot more,
like vulnerable with each other, like a lot more like in each other's corners, more as best friends,
and a lot of that kind of sibling rivalry thing, you know, dissipated. And then that time we spent
together a Wagner, you know, when he was like out of basketball, and then I took that job coming
straight out of high school, that time together, like that forged some type of like, like partnership
in this coaching thing. And that would have, that you got to get some footage of those games,
because we were, you know, imagine both of us together with the officials, just the sideline,
antics, the shit we got away with there that you could never get away with, because those games
aren't on TV. Those are all like camcorder back then. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So we will, because
I'm, we're such big fans of you, we will for free be your internet consultants going forward.
Here's a tip with your brother, because I saw this floating around the internet. You took
a picture with him last night, and everyone was like, oh, I wonder which brother lives in Arizona
and which brother lives in stores, Connecticut, because of his tan. So we got to get, when you
take a picture with him, make sure there's enough people in the middle that it's not so apparent,
because it was, he's, he looks incredible with the tan. And you've been in the winter all,
you know, all winter. Yeah, I was like, I wanted to rub it to see if it was real.
Or if it was spray. Yeah. Parts look maybe like it might have been a spray. I don't think that that
was authentic. Yeah. Maybe we incorporate a tanning bed into the man scape situation. Yeah.
You hit the, you hit the sauna, aroma therapy, and then tanning bed for 30 minutes. DJ Polyd.
In the cold shower, I could get the hair off. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I think you should keep going
with what's working here. We don't want to, we don't want to mess up a good thing. I had another
quote that was just vintage Danny Hurley. It happened last week. So you, the story goes,
Sonoga, who everyone, you know, has been watching just absolutely dominate,
he's practicing Ramadan. And so he's not drinking any water or eating any food during the day. We
said that I think we would just like, we wouldn't even be able to podcast if we could, if we did
that. So credit to him, but you didn't find out until like Ramadan was starting, like you had no
idea and you didn't get any sleep that night. Right? Yeah. I mean, none of these people on my
staff, you know, we got all these people here. I got athletic trainers, strength coaches, nutritionists,
massage, I mean, this is a big time organization associate head coach, you know, general manager.
And that one person told me this guy wasn't going to eat or drink or couldn't drink anything during
the game. Yeah, like a dude, like you're in a huddle, like everyone, you know, I've got my mushroom
coffee that I drink by the scores table and I'm chasing that with a buy drink. So I am plenty
hydrated and caffeinated. And then these kids all got, you know, their whole thing going. My wife
told me at like midnight, she like, you know, what are you going to do with Adama tomorrow?
And I'm like, what are you talking about? He's going to dominate. He's just dominated and said,
well, he's fasting. And I was up the whole night until shoot around the next morning. And then
I had a spiritual conversation with him because I didn't know if it worked the same way. Yeah,
with Christianity where on the Sabbath, you know, like I still go and do, you know, even
though we're not supposed to really work on the Sabbath, you know, if I've got a game on the Sabbath,
I'm going to show up. So he it's not the same thing. Yeah, no, the rules are pretty, they're
hard and fast. Yeah, it's like sun up, sun down. And I think we all wiggle room. Yeah, we all remember
it as kids when Hakim used to do it in the NBA finals, I think it was one year. And I was just
like, and that was, you know, that's in June. Now you're talking the sun doesn't go down till
after the game, you know, halfway through the game. So it's, I mean, it's credit to him. It's
incredible feat. It is. I mean, the way that that guy performed, I'll tell you the,
you know, that that that man is, you know, he's got a chance to cement himself here.
Terms of legacy, you know, he's, you know, just in terms of production and first team all league.
And now with the final four, and you know, he would get in the end, get a national championship
under his belt. Now you're talking about, you know, moving into the Pantheon of all time great
players at this program, especially with the fact that like, when this guy came in here, we suck.
Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's incredible. He's been around for all of it.
Tell me a little bit more about the mushroom coffee that you drink. What's, what goes in there?
Yeah. So it's a, yeah, it's a company. I think it's a company from, from the Netherlands. And it's,
it's, it's a coffee that's, that's made out of a mushroom extract like lion's mane.
Yeah. Cordyceps. Yeah. So it gives you the same type of alert in intensity, maybe without the
jitters that you would get from coffee sometimes. So my, my pregame thing, you know, it used to be
back at St. Benedict's, I would, I would just crush a five hour energy right like about five
minutes before tip. And then it was just rocket shift time. And I knew that wasn't sustainable.
So I backed it off at Wagner to, to the Red Bulls, like the Red Bull one, one before the game,
one and a half time. And then I just felt like maybe that that wasn't sustainable as well.
So then I just experimented with a lot of different things. So now I go like about 90 minutes before
game, I tip off, I go mushroom coffee with, with a little MCT brain octane,
like into the coffee, you know, just to get that extra advantage over whoever I'm coaching against.
And then during the game, I'll go with a bulletproof mentalist blend with that by drink,
which obviously I have to take the cover off of it. That's that orange liquid that fans of other
teams accuse me of drinking piss. Yeah, I've seen that around. Every time I see somebody
drinking that color liquid, I'm like, well, they're slamming piss. Yeah, this piss again.
I would drink piss if it meant I was going to a Final Four. Yeah. Yeah, but it's not, it's not though.
So it could be. It could be though. Yeah, that would be an ultimate mental game.
You could play that with with other coaches. If you just told everybody like the way I get
so intense as I drink my own urine, I bet there would be a couple of coaches out there that
would be like, I'm going to give that a shot. I'm going to try. Yeah. That's a good idea. I'm
going to drink it on Saturday night. I'm going to take that first sip right by the other coach,
and I'm going to make a face like I just drank. That's mental, mental warfare. Dominate him.
I love it. I love it. I'm up. I'm up eight nothing. Yeah. I'd be up eight nothing. Yeah.
Absolutely. All right. Well, coach, this has been awesome. I have one last question.
It's a rowback question. RHOBACK.com. Use code TAKE for 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips,
polos, hoodies, joggers, everything at rowback.com. So we're huge fans of you. We do want to do an
in-person interview. We still have to do that because, like I said, I followed your career.
I was watching when you were coaching Fats Russell, which I still, that's all-time name
at URI, all-time name. So we were lucky enough a couple of years ago to come up to Connecticut
and get to sit with Coach Calhoun for about two hours. Awesome interview. I'm curious. So what's
like the best piece of advice he's given you or something that he's told you about this program
that you think back and you use all the time? Yeah. So a couple of things. We've asked coach,
like, like late in the year, right before we went to Albany, right before we went to Vegas,
just to talk to the team. You know, it's like, obviously, to have, you know, coach or Gino
or EM around, I'd be a moron if I didn't take advantage of, you know, an opportunity to learn
from these like legendary coaches. So like, you know, coaches had some spot-on messages for the
boys about, you know, this is March, you guys got to go do what UConn does. But I would say like my
first couple of days on the job when I got to UConn, I, because I loved Rhode Island, that last
team with Fats and E.C. Matthews and Jared Terrell, like, you know, beaten Trey Young in Oklahoma,
first round of the tournament. Like, that was a fun team, man. We won a lot of games. And,
you know, so I had this great team, I loved to death, and I took that job at UConn. And, and,
like, it was a disaster, man. I mean, like, like talent, like the way these guys were, were, were
moving on campus, like academics, behavior, it was so far away from, like, anything you could win with.
It's just, everything was a mess. So he has an office in the building. So maybe it was the day
after the press conference, and I've got, like, buyers or boars, man. I'm like, call my agent,
can I go back? You know, is it, they explained the buyout. And I said, all right, I guess I'll
just stay. But then I walked over to coach's office. And I started complaining, like about
that, you know, just how big the mountain was to climb, how messed up the program was. And he
looked at me with a serious scowl. They called me and, you know, an effing baby, and get your head
out of your ass. This is Yukon's son, you know, like, like he ripped me, you know, he ripped my
ass. And, and since then, man, I've been shot out of a cannon, man. When the goat, you know,
when the goat tells you to get your head out of your ass, you, you get to work.
That's incredible. It's like the scene from Godfather slapping him in the face, act like a man.
Yeah. Right behind him in his office, he's got like all his pictures and stuff. And as a picture
of him throwing the first pitch out against the Red Sox after they won the Natty, I don't know
what year it was. And most people you see, they throw the first pitch out, right? It's just like
he's got his arm back. His face is like straining. He's striding full speed.
I love it. I love it. I hope also he, when you were talking about buyouts, he just was like,
not a dime back because that would be great if he dropped that on you.
He's, he talks about business and
not a dime back is still one of my favorite quotes of all time. Well, coach,
thank you so much for joining us. It's been long overdue. We do have to do it in person.
Best of luck in Houston. We'll be there rooting you on. And yeah, we need that painting. We need
a painting. We'll send you some pictures. We'll text you some pictures of us shirtless. And then
you can, you can go ahead and do what you will with them. You can't make me look any worse.
So go for it. Yeah. Portrait. I got you. Yeah. All right. Well, best of luck, man. We really
appreciate it. Later fellas. Appreciate you guys. Dan Hurley was brought to you by Skrill.
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You still have the presence of a big time program with Yukon, but this is the Final Four of South
Florida. What a bias in saying that, but it's true. FAU in Miami are about an hourish away from each
other. And then San Diego State putting the Mountain West on their back after an associate
showing by everyone else in their league. Jake, did anybody, any national prognosticators pick
San Diego State to win that bracket? Did you? That region. Oh yeah. Did anyone have San Diego
State and Purdue? Me also. Oh yeah. There we go. One of one. Yeah. I know ball. Yeah. By the way,
many firefests. I don't have a perfect region because I had Gonzaga beating Yukon. Oh, come on.
So hang the banner. Perfect region through the elite eight. Okay. That means nothing. It's a
banner in my mind. No, that's not. No, it's not. You're right. Jake, can you talk us out of Yukon
winning? How does Yukon not win this Final Four?
Because they haven't been in a close game yet and Miami has been tremendous in crunch time.
And wrong. Max is going to try to mush him and he's doing a good job.
But does my point make sense? Yeah. No, your point makes perfect sense. But let's be honest,
Max is getting his fucking loser stink. His heart is almost. Yeah, you're right, PFT. His heart is
not in it. Yeah. Max, you couldn't do this. He's, you're not. I love the Big East. Okay.
What's the wildest storyline? Wildest storyline? The South Florida thing is up there. Yeah.
I think the recruit, FAU, him being like the first recruit.
Huh? The FAU coach, I believe his first recruit was the guy that's the only senior on the team.
Forest, I believe. And he hit the four free throws down the stretch.
That is pretty cool. He got the job and the first person he went to recruit was him.
And now he's the only senior on the team. That's very cool. Yeah, that was.
And he made the four free throws down the stretch against Kansas State to ice it.
I know you guys are pulling for no way. That's wild. There you go. That's a nice pull, Hank.
Yeah. Good pull. Very nice. Good pull, Hank. Yeah. I mean, shout out Dusty May. Yeah.
What a story. 35 wins. San Diego State. Obviously, great. Coach Laranega.
There was, I think Tracy Wolfson did a sideline hit in the elite eight,
the very end, just calming his guys down where he was saying, let me pull up the exact quote,
because I don't want to screw it up. He seems like the most fun coach to play for.
Yeah. He, he leans into the grandpa role. Yeah. Right. And guys love him for that.
We saw him dancing on Friday night after the sweet 16. Like,
this is what it was. Sorry. This is bad radio. That's okay. That's okay, Jake.
His words. Great job, sweetie. His words. Where else would you rather be?
Are you having any fun yet in crunch time? Yeah, that's cool. It's like,
how could that's got to ease the nerves so much. That sucks if you lose.
That reminds me of a coach. Yeah, the coach is like, oh, he didn't fucking care.
That's why they got here in the first place, because. No, definitely. Yeah.
The vibe. Yeah. The vibe that he has. I mean, it's, it's, it's a great testament how coaching
can come in all shapes and forms because he's doing it one way. Right.
Danny Hurley and they're playing against each other in the final four. That's wild.
Like calm guy ever versus. He's drinking piss and caffeine on the sideline.
Mushroom flavored piss. Yeah. He's basically turning into the last of us before our very eyes.
Yeah. So they should do a Marvel movie about the early brothers, just the piss man piss,
drink piss and they become the best coaches in the world. Yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to give
a shot. You drink my own piss. I've done it once. P sterile. I know before Super Bowl week.
As a guy, you know that, you know that every guy has tried their own piss before. Right.
Listen, I've tried my, I drink my own piss at least once a month. It's supposed to help
long term health benefits. I haven't been sick yet. Yeah. So I drink P like what not all the time,
but I'd say once a month. Yeah. I'll take a big sip of my own piss and it helps your body.
It helps going through your digestive system because when you think about it, your lower
digestive system gets a lot of piss going through it. But your upper doesn't really get the taste
of that. Your lungs need piss. I actually inject, I pee into a cup and then I inject it back into my
dick. Yeah. You go up. You go up over like a salmon. Yeah. Cause I sometimes will score it a
little kind of like twice, twice distilled. Yeah. I'll do a little ears and maybe a little
snort so that my brain gets a little piss, piss brain. You're operating on a different level.
I'm pretty sure that's what Joe Rogan does. No, it's a, your pee actually contains new
tropics. Yeah. And so it alerts. Oh, well, it's like taking Adderall. No, no, no, no. You know,
when you take a lot of vitamins and supplements, yeah, they come out and peel off. Yeah. Well,
you got to drink your pee to get the supplements back that you lose. Yeah. So once a month,
me and my buddies play piss pong. Yeah. Just once. I'll do that too. Yeah. It's a good point.
Like if I go out to a really expensive meal. Oh yeah. Like you're like, let's say you spend
a hundred bucks on a steak. You're just wasting it if you're not drinking your piss after. Yeah.
Well, that's why you have to drink your piss. That way you get all of the steak.
Some people got mad at me when we were talking about not wiping our butts and how if you pee
onto your own butt, they can clean it off. Yeah. Yeah. The added benefit is you also
resorb some of that urine. Yeah. It goes in rectally, which is some. Yeah. It's the best way
to get it. You're boofing some piss right from the source. It's like your body. Your body becomes
so efficient that if you pee into your own butt long enough, every time you piss, you just absorb
everything and you don't have any ways to create a billion dollar idea. I just thought of we should
we should come out with piss flavored vapes. That's good. I mean, I should be this conversation.
I was always a little ashamed of how much piss I was drinking. But this conversation, I feel
like it's eye-opening that like all dudes drink their piss. Well, do any of you pee in your humidifiers?
Yeah. All the sprays across. Yeah. I'll actually pee into the engine of my car too.
Makes it go go way fast. Billy's right. If you pee into the humidifier, you're basically just
taking a gravity bong of your own pee every time you turn it on. Yeah. Yeah. Do you drink your own pee?
I think I did once by accident on like a road trip when I was like 10. You should try because
probably, you know what you actually should do? Problem solved. Right now, you should start drinking
Billy's dog's piss and then you won't be allergic anymore. That's true. Yeah. That's how you beat
allergies. If you drink the piss of something, that's like if I ever see a snake, I'm not worried about
getting bitten by it because I've been drinking so many types of snake piss that it's not even a
problem for me. Snakes pee. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everything all the time. Yeah. So come on, dude.
Yeah. I actually walk around on the street with my mouth wide open. It's got a hole. Yeah. Just so
I could maybe get lucky and have a bird piss on me. Well, birds pee and poop out of the same hole.
Yeah. I'll get some. I'll catch some in my mouth and be like, good. Now pigeons can't give me any
diseases. You know when a bird poops on you, it's good luck. Yeah. Well, if it's really good luck
when you eat the poop. Yeah. Yeah. Mel Kuiper hasn't peed for 28 years. Yeah. That's why he had
Jimmy Kloss being a Hall of Famer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look at those guys. Never. But yeah. I'm
pretty sure Ciciliano pisses. He tried to, come on. He definitely pissed. I think he dives up.
Hanson doesn't because he's a man. Yeah. Anyways, storylines, you guys usually do your Super Bowl
like lists probably last year too. Not a long list this year. Yeah. Give it to us though. I mean,
I think I already listed the main ones. Okay. Okay. Any others? Yukon, Return to Dominance maybe,
South Florida, San Diego. Nice weather. Three of the four. Yeah. Plus Yukon. Yep. Gotta be the
weirdest mascots. Hurricane, owl, Aztec, and a Husky. I kind of like the Ibis. The Ibis is cool.
Yes, Sebastian. The Ibis, Sebastian. Hurricane probably beats all of them. Aztec? Yeah. I
don't know. Owls don't die in a hurricane. Yeah, they just fly away. Yeah. Actually,
that's where it is too. I guess Houston's hurricane country. If it was somewhere like,
I know, I know, I know. Remember when JJ went to the city? No, I know, I know. Walter Peyton,
man of the year. But if it was like Minnesota, hurricane's not doing shit up there. That's
true. Yeah. Owls, they probably know when a hurricane's coming before it even gets like
anywhere close to being close. Same with a Husky though. Just fly away. Yeah, that's true,
but an owl can fly faster. Yeah. Aztec probably like, what the fuck is this, global warming?
Yeah, Aztec would have no idea. Just sacrifice another virgin. Yeah. All right, so those are
storylines? Yeah. Can you guys think of anything else? I'll think of more for Tuesday, Wednesday
show, but yeah, South Florida is dominant. And they won the D2 national title, Nova Southeastern.
Oh, I watched that game. That was actually a really fun game. It was like, they were,
they were just going up and down the court. You have Miami, obviously Miami Dade. Nova
Southeastern is in Broward County, which is where I'm from. And then on top of Broward is
Palm Beach County, which is where FAU is. Yeah. I would say that there's probably more per capita
cocaine done in all four of these areas because you've got Miami, you've got Boca, you've got San
Diego. I'm guessing a lot of cocaine there. It's close to Mexico. Yeah. And then also a lot of
rich people in Connecticut doing blow. There you go. Shout out to John Skipper. Yeah. Yeah,
they can all just get together. Yeah. You know, even he's, he's a cocaine. So shout out. But we
say that with all the love in the world. Yeah. Do you, bro? Yeah. But let your freak flag fly.
It wasn't the first time you bought Coke that you had a prostitute and Coke dealer
extort you. Probably. It doesn't happen on the first time. No, it doesn't happen on the first
time. All right. Numbers. 23. Hank, have you ever gotten this? No. 18. I'm gonna go 17. Oh,
good one. What did Hank guess last Friday? You took 23, Hank? I did. Four plus five plus five plus
nine. Nice. What did Hank guess on Friday? Oh, Friday? I was here. It was two, right? Two was
the correct answer. He tried to guess three. Yeah, he tried to guess three. What did he guess
on Friday? Do you know what he guessed? Anyone? I can listen back quickly if you give me 30 seconds.
Okay, yeah, I'll give you 30 seconds. No problem. Jake, it was 88. Was it? Yeah. For real? Yeah.
Should I check him on that? Yeah, check him on that. I don't want him. I have 20. Memes is 12.
Okay. Memes. Why would you say fuck memes? It's on the room. This is just weird to say.
I mean, Max Homa has 25. John Fanta has 26. I know, you guys are completely diluting the
league. Does memes put 20 into the pot? 48. 48. Oh, see? Liar. I'm happy that we checked. Yep.
This motherfucker, he tried to get me. He didn't. 48 is my number. Come on, 17.
I'll retire.
34. Oh, you weren't that close. I saw the three.
You weren't that close. Walter Bray. Male beast test will explode after mating. Oh,
you should have guessed Walter Payton after you forgot that JJ Watt didn't save the city of Houston.
Yeah, it was such an easy guess, Hank. Yeah, that was such an easy guess. Love you guys.
It's so better to be safe than sorry.
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