Pardon My Take - US Open Champ JJ Spaun, George Kittle, Panthers Win The Stanley Cup, Max vs Hank After Their 3 On 3 Game Plus Listener Submitted Pardon Your Takes

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

The Florida Panthers have won back to back Stanley Cups and we talk about Game 6 and an incredible performance by the Panthers to finish the series. Can McDavid win the big one? People are asking (00:00:0000:17:41). The Thunder are one win away from the NBA Title after Jalen Williams incredible performance and a question on whether TJ McConnell shouldve played more (00:17:41-00:30:51). Hot Seat/Chill Throne including a recap of Max hitting a game winner in Hank's eye during the 3 on 3 tournament (00:30:51-00:58:21). JJ Spaun joins the show fresh off his US Open win and we talk Oakmont, battling through, his career in golf and tons more (00:58:21-01:24:41). Our good friend George Kittle joins the show to talk TEU, Niners season from hell, his new contract, the Sphere and more (01:24:41-01:56:39). We finish with listener submitted pardon your takes (01:56:39-02:08:37).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have a twofer for the people. We have JJ Spahn, fresh off his US Open win. And then our good friend George Kittle from the San Francisco 49ers getting ready for TEU. We have a Stanley Cup champion. We're going to talk about the Panthers 49ers getting ready for TEU. We have a Stanley Cup champion. We're going to talk about the Panthers winning the Cup back-to-back years. The Thunder are also one win away from the NBA finals. We have some inner podcast beef to squash after Max and Hank duked it out in the

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per game after opt-in. Boost expires at the end of each game. Boosts, bet criteria, and maximum bet limits vary. See terms at sportsbook by DraftKings. What are you waiting for? Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app now and use code TAKE to claim your profit boost. That's right. Code TAKE to get you a boost for every single NBA finals game. Don't miss your shot at big wins. This is the moment you've been waiting for only on DraftKings. The crown is yours today is Wednesday, June 18th and the Florida Panthers are back to back Stanley Cup champions and incredible. Uh, last two games of the series where they absolutely dominated the oilers, uh, and just an incredible way to fit that they're the best team. There's not much. I mean, if you had to pick a second best team PFT, it's probably the Toronto Maple Leafs because they took them to seven. So it was like an exciting Stanley Cup final for the first four games. And then the Panthers were like, oh yeah, we're the best team. We're about to win back to back titles and congrats to them. So I was about to start the show by congratulating the Toronto Maple Leafs on being better than the Edmonton Oilers.

Like congrats to Biz. Biz was actually kind of right in his argument against Whit. It stinks for Oilers fans, but you got to put in your face. It's not like this was a close game. It's not like the end of the series closed out where you thought that you had a chance. This was ass kicking. They just kicked our asses. And then Reinhardt, he had four goals tonight, four goals tonight. Sam Reinhardt was, yeah,

he was, uh, he was awesome. He Sam Bennett, the other Sam won the con Smythe with 15 goals in the postseason, uh, led the whole postseason 22 points. But yeah, Sam Reinhardt four goals. But you're right. Like this was not, these last two games were so clear that the Florida Panthers were the better team. And Bob, we said it when our previews with Yans, with Witt, we're like, Bob's gonna get hot and he's gonna get hot and it's gonna be lights out for the Panthers. And that's exactly what he did in these last two games.

Tonight, I think he saw 28 29 shots saved 28 of them He's just he's he is that dude in closeout games You can't go back to Skinner if you're the Oilers. We told you that a couple nights ago Yeah, cannot go back. I do feel bad for oilers. I do I feel bad for the entire country of Canada Yeah, 1993 it felt like this might be Canada's year. Yeah the memes I think just tweeted the an American team has won this the CFL gray cup in a more recent time than the Canadian team has won the Stanley Cup. So the Baltimore Stallions, I believe in 1995 won the gray cup. I think they

were only in the league for a year or two. and it's been a shorter distance in time than the Canadian teams winning a Stanley cup. It's, it's tough. I do feel bad. I feel bad for the Oilers. I feel bad. Well, Connor McDavid can't win the big one. We're going to just jump into it. I don't know what to say. I feel bad for him. He's an incredible player, but as of right now, I'm just going on the facts that I see has not won The big one. Okay. So my plan was to just butter up Canada as a country real quick Okay, and just be like we feel bad for you. This was a great team Ultimately, it was a combination of Ryan Whitney and your goal tending that lets you down. It's not your fault, Canada

But also maybe your golden boy is looking like fool's gold. Yeah, I mean, it's not his fault We're being a little tongue-in-cheek but obviously this will be the Prevailing story of Kenny win the big one because he is the best player in the league and he hasn't won the big one and for Back-to-back years the Florida Panthers that's got to be the hardest part to PFD if you're an Edmondson Oilers fan Connor McDavid is the best player in the league. You have all this tradition. You have the Stanley Cup years with Gretzky and Messier, and then you have a team in Florida who is just dominant.

Like the Florida Panthers deserve all the credit for putting together an absolute beast of a team and the way they've won back to back Stanley Cups. They're awesome. Not just Florida, like the dirtiest part of Florida, like, like the farthest part away from you part of Florida, where the team is located outside the city. They basically built a town around a barn and they're like, we hope that we can get people to come out here. And then they built a good team. So they do have a fan base now. Yes. But to lose to Miami that that stinks. Yeah, that stinks real bad.

Uh, but yeah, they were, they were dominant team. And I think anybody that watched these playoffs, you can't say anything besides the fact that that was the best team. They also, yeah, they, they, uh, so they, uh, set a Stanley cup final record, uh, surpassing the 1987 Oilers with most minutes in the Stanley Cup final leading. So they led for 255 minutes in the Stanley Cup final because it was, you know, the Oilers wins. You had that crazy game where they score late and then overtime wins. And so it's just the Panthers were the better team. They were a built wagon. They had three guys score five plus goals in the Stanley Cup final,

which they're the only second team in the NHL history to do that. Reinhardt had seven, Marshawn had six, Sam Bennett had five. They're awesome. And it's, it's gotta hurt the hockey loving Canadians to be like this team. And I know obviously there's a lot of Canadians on Brad Marsh on from Canada, but still it's got to hurt. I would blame. I think there's three people you can blame if you're trying to figure out how to cope. Number one is just the entire state of Florida for having no state income tax.

So you can go to that one. You can blame the Boston Bruins and then you can blame the city of Philadelphia for letting Bob go down there. So you've got some scapegoats. Yeah, you got some scapegoats for sure. Absolutely. And now Mcdavey, you can blame Toronto for not taking care of the Panthers. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's actually a great one that you can do. Yeah. Uh, I, I think that Mcdavid is he's got to win one eventually, but we have no choice but to ask if he's incapable of winning the big one now. Right. We didn't want to. We didn't want to have this conversation.

And I'm not trying to do insult stats, but he's the only captain who's lost in back to back cup finals in the last 50 years. It's hard to get there twice. It's hard to get there twice. It's hard to get there twice. I don't want to do these. I don't. Let's talk about how awesome the Panthers are. Okay. Let's talk about, uh, Marshawn and how I, I don't think I realized how great he was until these playoffs, which sounds stupid because obviously he's had a great career for Boston, but something about seeing a guy who's been really, really good for a long time, do the exact same stuff that he's always done just in a different uniform makes it mean like a little bit more. He stands out a little bit more to me. Well, yeah, it's I mean, he's 37 years old and you're like, Oh, what are you going to

get from him? Is he at the tail end? And then, Oh yeah, you're going to get one of the best players on the ice for the entire Stanley Cup final and an absolute beast who just has a knack for the big moment. And you're right. Like it was, he, he, I think a lot of people were like, he's incredible, but like this takes him another level to win it with another team and do it in such an impressive fashion where it's like he had his fingerprints all over this series. Yeah. On the third line too. Yeah. Also, uh, credit to Paul Maurice, very good coach Florida Panthers. Uh, I believe this, I think the status he, he coached for 25 years, 25 years in the

NHL without winning anything and now has won back to back. Pretty, pretty awesome. They, you know, be a little patient. Patience works. Should we be upset with Evander Kane for skipping the handshake line? Ooh, I'm going to say yes. That's bullshit. How can you do that? I get it at the end of the Stanley Cup finals. That's exactly when you need to do the hand shake line. Yeah, I get it. You know that you know, I know But imagine it's you yeah, no, I would I'd be so pissed I would just probably say fuck you under my breath to everyone in the handshake line Yeah, I'd leave I just walk out of the arena get in my car immediately

I'd pretend my I pretend my like right hand was broken and have to do the sad paw, like people having to reach across and make it really awkward for everyone. She'd be like, well, I did the handshake line. What do you want from me? Yeah, he's got no guts. That's an upper body injury from you. That's why me and you aren't in the Stanley Cup finals, because we wouldn't do the handshake line. That's true. We should also say, and we're not looking for credit, but we would have gone to game seven in Edmonton with Ryan Whitney.

So we basically, Whitney, I believe, if we're doing a score counter, he now owes us something. Yeah, so a little peek behind the curtain, I'm out of studio right now because I'm at a lake house in Michigan that I planned on doing this like five months ago. Got this lake house for the week into the weekend. By the way, Michigan, awesome state, a lot of weed dispensaries, kind of crazy. And I said, I'm not going to be here this weekend.

I canceled my lease, the week long lease on the lake house, because I was like, I'm going to go to Edmonton this weekend. And then I don't know what I'm going to do tomorrow because I got, I'm out of this house. I'm self-evicted. So I mean, credit to us for, for saying, Hey, wait, you've done a lot for this program. We're willing to put our nuts on the line for you. I, uh, but unfortunately just can't happen. I had a phone call with Ryan Whitney this morning planning it out, being like, Hey, if the, if Edmonton wins this game tonight, we got to act quick. We got to get this flight. We flight we got to get it all every like give me the names right now we got to be ready to go it was being planned and again I do think he owes us something

now I don't know what we're gonna have to figure it out Hank he owes us something don't you agree because you would have gone yeah absolutely sure yeah 100 max you would have gone. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, 100% Max, you would have gone right? Max actually, like really pumped to go. Really pumped. I think Whitney should have to dye his hair. Yeah, it would. It does feel good to die. It would have been cool to go to like, I'm not complaining about having a chance to go to a game seven, it would have been pretty sick. But in terms of like all time cancellation of like,

hey, you don't have to go to Edmonton. It felt good. It felt really good. I'll be honest, it felt really, really good. Not me, I'm upset. Yeah. I would love to go up there. You're so upset from your lake house in Michigan.

It's a bummer. Hey, Hank, fun fact about Michigan. I'm learning all sorts of stuff about Michigan. You know, Michigan has the most lighthouses of any state in the United States. Wow. Yeah, pretty cool. There's one right down the street. I'll take a picture of it. You know what? You know what the state bird of Michigan is? Not even a bird. No, it's a it's a joke that every state says about their own state. Oh, I'm watching right now. They're taking a picture with God damn it. Stanley Cup winning that it's got to be the best feeling in the world.

Just being like we're just going to get so fucked up with the boys. They do. She's holding up the tube. Buddy. You weren't there last year. Stanley Cup. I will say this about the Stanley Cup. It does feel like the number one the team like parties for as long as possible together. Like,

I think a lot of the other sports, the team kind of fractures, uh, pretty quickly this one, it's like you'll just see all of the Panthers partying for the next four days, all of them together. And sometimes longer than that. That's what makes it so impressive that your repeat champions, you win the Stanley Cup and you go on a bender for about a month and a half you're just getting fucked up left and right like you're a freshman in college and Then you go back and after a summer of utter debauchery

You're able to somehow get back to that elite level that way. I think that might be the hardest sports repeat it Yeah. Oh, by the way, here we go breaking news of sports repeat it. Yeah. Oh, by the way, here we go. Breaking moves. Uh, Matthew Kachuck says he tore the abductor off the bone and was dealing with a hernia on the same side of his body. Wasn't sure if he'd be able to play to start these playoffs. Kachuck state says grinding through all that makes the Stanley Cup more rewarding. I love, I love the hockey injuries after cause they, they are like, it's, it's kind of the opposite of, you know, LeBron getting bounced and being like, I would have been out three to five weeks. Like these guys are playing with horrific injuries and they don't say a word. And then after they get a microphone in their face,

like, yeah, actually my legs been broken for like four months and a, but it's the cup dude. Yeah. Thank God the series is over. Cause I get to go to the hospital Yeah, yeah, so I'm gonna check myself in but when you say the way that you phrase his injury though It sounds kind of delicious Loki. Yeah, say it again. He tore the abductor off the bone. That is though That's not that sounds tasty. Yeah, there'll be there'll be a Panther orler be like yeah, my doctor told me if it goes seven, I'll probably die, but it's the cup So gotta go out there for the boys Yeah, all right. I one other thing before we kick it to ourselves in studio for the rest of the show I'm starting to think that

Some of the women the WNBA don't like Caitlin Clark Yeah, yeah, I think so. That's all I got. Did she get fish hook tonight? Or was it just a slap in the face? Did she get bitch slap? She got like rabbit punched and then and then like chest bumped Yeah, I think they don't like her I don't know I'm just getting that vibe maybe maybe we got to wait and see But I'm starting to think they don't like her when all this shit started to go down last year I thought that this is actually a great opportunity for somebody that's like into the bench player on the fever this is actually a great opportunity for somebody that's like into the bench player on the fever Become the Caitlin Clark defender. Yeah, forget about working on your game. Just get in the gym

Just start just start learning boxing jujitsu Muay Thai Whatever and then just being an enforcer be the Charles Oakley So there's an opening right now for Charles Oakley to Caitlin Clark's Michael Jordan That just goes out there and beats the shit out of girls that try to go at Caitlin. Yeah. Just be friends for life. Yeah. Be your best friend for life and eat a couple of technicals every now and again, kicked out a few games. Not only will it be good for your just career, like on the roster, but I mean, there'll be marketing opportunities too. Yeah.

You're just like, you'll be known as her bodyguard. Yeah. It's a great point. Oh, I totally forgot Congrats, Zach. Are you a Panthers fan? It would be it would be stolen Valor to say Panthers fans specifically but state of Florida love to see them bring the Stanley Cup home Okay, love that coming home. That's the state of Florida's one for the last five cups. Is that not right? I believe so. They could be way up. Yeah. Lightning. What is it? It's two lightning, two Panthers, and then an avalanche mixed in?

Is that right memes? Yeah. Yeah. All in the south. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Alright. So congrats. State of hockey. Let's go. Congrats to Brooks. Congrats to Brooks. Yeah, he was there. He was looking like he was having fun. Yeah.

Great night. And Marlins man. Congrats to Marlins man. he was there. He was looking like he was having fun. Yeah. Great night. And Marlins man. Congrats to Marlins man. I'm not going to say that. I will. He just kept on texting me throughout the game being like, wish you were here. What is this? Oh, there's video play is crazy loud. Wish you were here. And it's just a picture of him with a chick and then a picture of him with the Panther mascot. So didn't make any inappropriate comments about your mom is the what's the picture of the day picture contest winner. I don't know. Do you. Should I play the video he sent. This

is this. Oh that's just a live. All right. Wait hold on. Let me let me replace. If anyone was wondering if it was loud at the at the at the game tonight to win the Stanley Cup trophy. Here's here's live our live reporter Marlins man. Hear that PFT. It sounds pretty loud. It's really loud. Let me just go and see if he maybe says something at the end. Oh wow That is loud. That was loud confirmed loud confirmed confirmed loud Okay, let's keep it to ourselves. We got a lot of great show Hank verse max. We have Some NBA finals talk we have JJ spawn George, Pond Your Take back in studio altogether.

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What time is it? Game Time. Okay, boys, the Oklahoma City Thunder are one win away from the NBA title, and that was the J-Dub game. Yeah, incredible. Jalen Williams was 40. Yeah, 40 points. Second most in Thunder history in the finals.

I think it was Russell Westbrook had 43 back in the 2010 finals. That was an awesome game from him and that was exactly like this is why the Thunder are so scary. SGA is the MVP. He's 26 years old. Chet is 23 years old. Jay Dub is 24 years old and he's had moments in these playoffs where it's like one great game, one game where he kind of isn't there It's that's the progression of a young player But on Monday night he was there and he was phenomenal Is that the most points ever scored by a guy that was drafted third in the same year by his own team? Like he was their third pick when they took him. It's good question the NBA finals

I think it might be it was it was a great game on his part SGA also wasn't bad No, she was great, but it was it was like j-dub show We I think we maybe we should think about having the conversation Batman Robin. Yeah last night. He was Batman Yeah, and it was uh that like Obviously, this is the NBA finals. You have to win these games the Pacers. There's no moral victories I was kind of not shocked but like the way they fought I thought the game was over at halftime Tyrese Albertans hurt he had zero field goals made

Stephen a Smith said he was happy he was hurt He corrected a little he's like I'm happy he I know that he's hurt because he's sucking tonight I think Stephen Smith was happy he was hurt so that he could play solitary instead of having to watch the game Yes, but it was uh the the Pacers were right there. It was that sequence I think it was like nine minutes left. It was 95 93 and The Thunder got an offensive rebound J-dub hit a hit a three and then I believe it was case and Wallace got a steal and a dunk and it was like oh now It's back to a seven-point game and

Outside of I mean Terry's Halliburton was, was bad. He's injured. A member, he had a leg thing that Shams reported two games ago. So it seems like he might've aggravated the leg thing. I, I feel like Rick Carlisle, I don't know. I mean, maybe this is just one of those situations where he obviously knows his players better than anyone else. But TJ McConnell was a problem. I think he could not. The thunder did not know what to do with him and he he should have. He should have kept with him. The question that I have for everyone else is, is TJ McConnell one of those guys that you can't play him that much because all he does is go 100% all the time. I think the fair question would be like, should we play TJ McConnell all the time? Because he is great at surprising you with how good he is. Yeah. So if he's playing all the time,

can you even be surprised that he's still cooking? The team was, the bases were definitely better when TJ McConnell was in last night. And every time it got close, it was because TJ McConnell was out there doing his Indiana deli thing where he kind of does like the, the well-placed spin moves gets away from guys Plays extremely hard you gotta ask what should Carlisle be yanking guys. I think he's got to start yanking guys I think that like Halliburton. Yes. He is your best player the offense goes through him and when it goes through him The offense is incredible to watch but when he's limited then it, now you rely on guys who don't create their own shots. You rely on them having to create their own shots more. It doesn't work out as well. Yeah. You need TJ McConnell. I just don't,

I think TJ McConnell is one of those guys that he just, you can't play him 35 minutes because then you lose the TJ McConnell because every single time TJ McConnell, he'll sprint down the court with the ball, go into the lane, either shoot or make a decision to get someone else a shot. They score and then he's sprinting trying to steal the ball in the inbounds. And it's like you can't, part of why he works is that he never ever lets up. And I don't know how much gas he has. I also thought Siakam only playing 33 minutes. Siakam was a prize. The Thunder had no answer for Siakam either. I think that you should play TJ if Halliburton's going to continue to be hurt. You play TJ at home. You give him heavy minutes at home. You let him, you

let him feed off that crowd. There was one point, I think it was, it was either Holmgren or maybe Hartenstein, but he got fouled by TJ got fell pretty hard and they turned around and he was like, it was an honor to be followed by you, sir. They adapt each other up. It was like that. I appreciate you going balls out, but, uh, that was also great crowd game for Oklahoma city. Yeah. Great crowd game. Oh, I don't think right out. Yeah. The stripe out was awesome. They didn't sit down for the entire game. It was loud as fuck. Even at one point, like when things weren't going well for the Oklahoma City Thunder,

the crowd just never stopped chanting OKC. Yeah. Even when like most crowds would be like, oh, fucked it, we're about to, the Pacers are about to do their Pacer thing. Yeah, Loud City, right? Is that what they were calling it? Loud City, I like that.

I think they were calling it Loud City. They had Red Panda at halftime. They showed the intros before the game, which again, bullying works. At some point, Adam Silver has to stand up to the internet. Like we just bully him left and right. We just complain about something. He's like, yeah, you know what?

We'll make that fix. Roger Goodell would never change a single thing. Ever. Ever. He would just make it worse probably. If he did, we would have the throat slash back. Yeah, he's like, okay, well, I'm gonna make the, uh, I'm going to make the NBA finals logo on the court slippery. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so the thunder, do we think they went, they closed it out in six? I think, uh, statistically, if you're just going based off history, it's like 80%. Um, but then you

add in the fact that Halliburton is not healthy right now That's the part where I'm like cuz if Halliburton was a hundred percent. I would have the Pacers in game six I would think this is going seven either way. This has been a phenomenal series like that was a great game It was a two-point game with nine minutes left, and it was it just fun basketball being played so before the game Did you see the clip of SGA sounding autographs? No he signed? So before the game, did you see the clip of SGA signing autographs? No. He signed 429 autographs before the game. He signed autographs for everybody that brought him something to sign.

And there was a, someone was videoing the whole thing? And then Darren Revelle was like, okay, I'm out of merchandise, so let somebody else try. Yeah, somebody videoed the entire thing. If you're the Indiana Pacers, if I were you guys, would show up I would bring like 20,000 people wearing Thunder jerseys to the arena and have SGA try to sign 20,000 autographs before the game yeah tires tires foul shooting handout you just need yeah this is actually a crazy video it's nuts right what a guy hot mean at some point your hand has to get tired. It's the most Canadian thing ever. You're playing in an NBA finals game.

This is a, what a guy. Here you go, here's your autograph. Okay, now have a great day. Take care. Hey, yo, you want another one? You want another Signer? Yeah, when we were talking about SGA's great voice, it's actually just super Canadian.

I actually don't. You can put the old John Hancock on. I don't like, I think his voice is too deep. I've said this, I think he's got the voice of a seven footer. I think I think he's got the the voice of a seven-footer I think we just pretend that he's got like a Canadian hockey voice. Yeah, that would work I just say every time he talks. I'm like, oh I that guy's not seven feet. He's six six So you guys think it's over? Yeah, I think we've said it's over. Yeah ever after every game I think it might be over the Pacers have had two golden opportunities last two games that they've kind of squandered

You know, yeah, you know what though every single time This is the first time that the Pacers have been trailing in a series all playoffs, which is kind of crazy true. I Think I think the Pacers are gonna figure out how to win one at home I don't know how I think maybe we get a TJ McConnell game I think we just send him out there and we're like we're gonna empty TJ's personal tank on this one That was a game to do it though. They yeah, they had the momentum with them I agree you can't do it all the time But if Hal Bern's out and he was clearly the spark he was a play they should have they should have died with him

Last night they didn't the Thunder's it shouldn't have been a question of yeah We have played him or not the Thunder's defense is incredible and TJ McConnell was ripping them up Yeah They had no and they took him out for the last like six or whatever the crucial six months six minutes when they lost the game. Yeah, I turned the ball over like seven times in a row. I think that if I'm going if we're going off the the series I've mentioned many times because it actually is now we're five games through and it's almost identical to the Nuggets Thunder series. It would be Nuggets. It would be the Pacers winning game six and then the and then the

Thunder winning in seven. I listen I'd love for it to go seven It's just that every time we count the Pacers out they manage to do something crazy. Yeah, although I think the Thunder gonna win this series I think so too. I think that's I guess that's ultimate counting them out, right? I think so too But and I have no reason to to believe that they're gonna win game six But I somehow do you know, like I've seen it enough from them where they can figure out a way to do it Rick Carlisle is a great coach. Yeah, he's one of the best coaches in the league and he has been for a long time They're gonna figure out some weird thing. I think

Tj McConnell you can't guard me with the spin moves You have to guard me what TJ McConnell yelled at the Oklahoma City Thunder after he hit a wide open three. That's fair. He also is, I know because of his height and maybe his complexion, people are like, oh T.J. McConnell, how's he doing? He is super athletic. Yeah.

Like he's so fast. Oh, it's tricky because he is, he's literally coach's son. Yeah, he's so shift. So he can start being like, yeah, look at this guy, at this guy's sneaky athletic coaches son grit fundamentally sound student of the game You can do all those but he's also insanely if he was if TJ McConnell was Australian I think people would put a little bit more respect on his name Yeah, if he had likes an exotic accent I just I walked away from that game being like holy shit the Thunder are

What we've said all along the like, is this going to be their worst dynasty? Is this going to be their worst championship in the dynasty? Because Jalen Williams taking that next step in an NBA finals game, it's crazy how like if they have SGA and Jalen Williams doing this and, and Chet maybe putting on 15 pounds, I don't know how. And it's just so many guys, they, Caruso leads the NBA finals all time and steals off the bench. That's just what they do. They bring it. They're like, oh, you, you know, you think this is a problem? Watch this pit bull come in and just fucking harass the shit out of everyone. And last night was when they really looked like a historic defense. Yeah, they they've had moments before and certainly like the regular season and in the playoffs,

they've had incredible this was their like signature game in the finals in terms of putting their defense out there. I don't I know that in sports day end of game for two, we was incredible. We have to talk about everything that it's like it's historic. Yeah, and they did have a historic regular season their defense was was great. But when you talk about the best of all time defense, I get a little annoyed when I hear that. Because you think of some great, as far as the Pistons,

when they had the gentleman sweep, that to me is the best defense of all time. Yeah, I mean, some of the Bulls' dynasty years were insane defense. Yeah, it's a different league now. Yeah. It's a different league. Uh, okay. Do we want to do hot seat, chill, throne, and then we'll get to our interviews.

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or store near you. Wow. We look good. We look good boys. Hot seat, chill throne. Hank. He's putting, he's buttoning. He's buttoning. Oh yeah. My hot seat is myself. Oh shit. Why we alluded to it last week on the show, but the The video is out the Barstool Basketball League Association Game State Farm is my team versus Max's team Mm-hmm. I'd say Vegas had us at like a minus 300 going into the game

We're probably heavily favored in that yeah way more than that way more than that on your team My team was me Dana beers Danny Conrad high school and Ella Griff okay, and who was on Max's team Max's team was Max the wanton dawn Stephanie and spider mmm, okay, okay, and so yeah, I would say you guys were you guys were the one seed they were the eight seed in this tournament by the way just it it hurt me this took place two weeks ago it hurt me that we had to sit on this because all I wanted to do is get max hit a game winner and Hanks I know not my eye false you were on the court I was on the court. Did you see it?

No Max hit a game winner in Hanks eye and we had to sit there and and not talk about it for two weeks when all I wanted to do was talk about it because My boy Max he is him. He is built different. He double dribbled, but it was a good shot. It was clutch I so I watched the replay of the alleged double dribble It was identical to when Steph Curry does that thing where he? He pretends to put his hand on the ball and keeps dribbling to make somebody bite on a fake when he does it It's like oh, this is witchcraft we've never seen a player with handles like this before when Max does it you try to become a

Deputized official at home and It's disrespectful to max's game because that was a sick move that he put on yeah I'm actually honored because that's just unbelievable loser talk from everyone from everyone trying to say double-jerk Just so people who didn't watch go watch because we got a bunch of games coming up PFT and I are on the same team Great basketball great basketball BBL the BBL no the BBL drizzly a BBA so it's games to 11 not win by two Hank's team was up 10 to 6 all they needed was a bucket it's not make it take it either so if you have the max team scores a bucket Hank's team gets it they have Dana they have Hank basically a professional basketball team. I had a free throw to win. Hank went 0 for one from the line. He went over eight from three. Kept

shooting. Did you see the box? Did you see that? I saw it. I saw the box. No, Yugs Bunny did not date. Right, right. Right. Right. Yugs Bunny, Yugs Bunny. Three for 12 from, from the field. Uh, three turnovers, costly turnover turnovers costly really bad turnovers what happened with 0 for 8 from the 3 because you a lot of those you were not guarded at all yeah I went over a from 3 I did not make one I missed eight and Max is not max what would you say basketball is like you're like 10th best sport yeah it's not one of my it's not one of my best sports I'd like to say that I can compete out there but you filled up the stat sheet though.

Yeah, no, efficient game three for six and you were what one for two from three, three for six, 50% boards, 10 boards for two from three. That's can I, can I throw a spin zone for a guy Hank? Yeah. He needs one. All right. Here's the spin zone. All right. So yeah, the game sucked. Max hit a game winning three in your eye. Max barely plays basketball. You play and train basketball all the time. Uh, what you were not trying to dunk. We're not trying to dunk. You're training. That's training. That's literally training. You spent a year training basketball. You trained basketball. Okay. You're right. Uh, you, you, so you train basketball. Max, it's not even, he doesn't even think of it as like, if you're like. Uh, you, you, so you train basketball, max. It's not even, he doesn't

even think of it as like, if you're like, Hey, give us your best sports. It's like, yeah, he's got to take off his shoes to count to the basketball and socks. Uh, but the spin zone is Hank, at least during this game, you didn't basically beat up a girl. That wasn't, yeah, you did. Yeah. Yeah. You kind of did. You ran kind of did you ran her over you ran her over I blocked her Did she block you no oh did you step over No, I thought that there was you blocked her and then you know I tried to hold her up from falling and then she fell and then I tried to pick her up And she's like don't ever fucking touch me again. Yeah You shoved her to the ground shout outs. I that. I did not shove her to the ground.

Dana Beers, like, almost... Max knocked Ella Griff through Earth's core. That's not true. She bounced like there's still a dent in the core. From how hard she hit the ground. I was going for a rebound. Max's stomach hit her fucking head and she got a concussion. She tried to get in the pain.

It was such a great game. I'm so happy for you, Max. The whole crowd was rooting for you. Oh, it was, I cannot stress the upset this was. And the people at home, they have no idea the upset that happened on this court. Like Dana and Hank were both looked at as two of the best players in the entire league.

You were the, you were. you were big cat big cat was Like calling protests of the whole thing because somehow they got they got on the same team Jerry Jerry drafted max one overall second overall overall cuz he survives. Yeah for vibes and Then there ended up being trades. Yeah, my team was literally tanking My team was literally taking against the team that the rest of the entire Tournament was upset that they somehow got together We were like this team is though is the best team because the way the draft went down It's like how did Hank how did Dana fall to three because Jerry took max second?

Wow in your eye. Hey Hank. How did you feel about the entire office rooting against you? I'm used to that everyone here hates me It is it was bad it was there was nothing it was such a bad choke I had a free throw to literally win the game. I come on. Yeah, I completely Mentally checked out. I was like this is a formality You know we're gonna score. It's not if it's when this game is over Mm-hmm I counted my chickens before they hatched max you know double driveled didn't get the call smart play loser talk It was a clutch shot. I'm very happy wasn't in my eye. Yeah Your I was open so much worse. I do have a real spin zone for you ready. Yeah, okay?

Tough tough couple days for you max hitting a game winner in your eye you falling asleep during the US Open I Never talking about Talking about now are we big nap talking guys every fucking golf tournament of all times like okay wait for something to take my No, that's Every podcast you guys ever done. I don't think that we didn't realize there was so many strict rules and regulations. It's not a rule. You are. You're also the golf guy. Yeah. You're a golf expert. Yeah. We don't take naps during NFL games. Okay. All right. So can I get to my spin zone? they don't rain delayed NFL games so you've had you've had a tough couple days PFC and I have decided to get you a

T time and a Flight to Pebble Beach Wow so we're gonna send you Pebble Beach this weekend Wow yeah, yeah Wow yep, and we talked to your dad. He's gonna come to we paid for him as well I mean, that's pretty nice of us Thank you guys. We wanted you to have a nice trip. So so we paid all expenses paid Pebble Beach To hate does Pebble Beach. Yeah, thank you guys. I'm so excited. You're cute drop everything Yeah, I'll have to check some things, but I think I can I can I am tomorrow morning at 7am tomorrow morning. I hope that's okay. We had to move around a lot of stuff. Thank you guys.

Called in all the favors that we had. That's amazing. My day has turned around. And then next week, you're going to love this too, next week we're going to have you play in the Ryder Cup. Wow. We've created a whole golf tournament just for you. Yeah, it was going to be, well there was some talk about who was going to get to play, who

wasn't going to get to play, who wasn't going to get to play. And we said, sorry, Francis, you're out. Hank's in. Yeah, that's exciting. I'm excited. I'm excited. Thank you. Thank you so much.

I love you guys. Can't be mad at us anymore. No, I never was. Well, you're mad at us by the Mac stuff and you were mad about Max hitting it in your eye. Yeah. And then also I know that you wanted to be in the dozen this week, but we took care of that.

You're not going to play. So no trivia and you get to golf Wow Pebble Beach, that's a dream going to Pebble Beach, buddy. That's a dream. I will say it is a Being 32 now it's like I I used to be irrationally confident about my athletic abilities and it bothered me when I you know I'm bad. I don't really care as much anymore. Like I've just accepted being like it's like I wanted to get more mad at myself But it's like yeah, I'm 32. I might just be an absolute joke of an athlete. He had T and I were on the same team We're the oldest team by far because Stephen Chay was on our team as well So it's two 40 year olds and I think Steve chase 39. We had the conversation before we're like, hey We want to win this thing but

We also need to not get injured. Yeah You guys might surprise me with a trip to pebble and like I can't like if I injured for that I will literally want to never let it down. Yeah, right It is kind of liberating reaching that that spot where you're okay with looking like an idiot proud of play sports, right? Where you're like, okay. Yeah, I'm not as good as at one point I thought I could be. It's also like, I just keep going back like, hey, we're 40 and we're still out there doing it. We're competing, that deserves some credit.

Like just going out there and competing. 32, I mean, that's, whatever, Pebble. You had to stay healthy for Pebble. Do you think that thought crosses Aaron Rodgers' brain at all? Like, I just don't wanna get hurt. You know, like, who am I trying to impress? I at all? Like, I just don't want to get hurt. You know, like, who am I trying to impress? I'm 41 years old.

I just want to go out there and show the world that old guys can still get out on the field. There should be a rule in all sports if you, like, a 40-year-old touchdown counts for an extra point. Yeah. It's like, how are you still doing it? 300-pound-plus touchdown should be more. Yep. Facts.

Okay, your chill trone. Ohone oh wow that's a long hot seat Yeah, well these pictures are incredible the oh Spider he'd hit her pft. How laughing at show smiling is as wide as I've ever seen him smile Yeah, in the background. Oh is that me? Oh, I tweeted one too. There's one where you were closer. Oh, yeah, that's fake news You're really I was real broke. I just kept on running around behind Max being like he's him, my boy is him. Just an all time result. I was about to say it's not personal. Oh yeah, no that smile's personal. That's not me though. Yeah I think that's you. That's you right in the back. That's me? Yeah that's a personal smile. Zoom in. That's personal glee. Enhance have you're having the time of your life

I mean it was a great joke. I thought that I was on the other side that could be me. Yeah, that's you and You're having the time of your life. Oh Yeah, oh, yeah Yeah I just wanted you know Hank my happiness after was Yeah, I just wanted you know Hank my happiness after was 1,000 percent personal yeah, no I know I know I know and that's you know I'm happy to provide a moment It's like you know the haters won this one. They've been winning a lot. Well. It was just a couple Beach You guys that's that I can't that's unbelievable. That's not so much personal

That's just me enjoying a historical moment the free throw was so bad Free throw is so bad It's all it's all it took and at that point I was like, all right. We moved on Honestly, we should have talked about it more cuz I've been waiting for two weeks to talk about this just the turnovers are really really What what just yeah you had some bad ones some bad ones free throws like drop the ball one time Oh for eight from three is almost hard to do. Yeah, how many that's not true No, just keep watching keep keep tuning it and tell me if that's over eights gonna be pretty fucking did you well? Things are said and done. Did you at some point think maybe I should have worn more bracelets

No, I Just had him on I didn't take him off I wasn't like you're you're about to do like the opening set at Bonnaroo. What the fuck? Yeah now it's bad It was a bad fit as Billy strings been getting in the way of your athletics. I guess I don't know I'm just not athletic. It's it's over. Yeah, good thing. He's spending your training For this moment training basketball, okay, chill thrown My children's Joe chestnut. Yes, Chiltron. My Chiltron is Joey Chestnut. Yes. He's back. He's officially as a Monday competing again in the Nathan's hot dog eating contest. So good. I feel like it was I feel like he committed to something else. He was thinking I think what I thought I saw a report

Like he was doing something in st. Louis. Well what I think I think everyone got mad Yeah, and then that must have we're gonna have it. We'll have him on before because he is the goat We've said it before but everyone should think they're lucky stars They were alive at the same time as Joey chestnut the most dominant athlete of all time. Uh, I think he was setting up a competing event and Nathan's probably blank to being like fuck. Everyone's gonna watch Joey. I'm gonna watch Joey. It's July 4th He released a statement yesterday saying that like it was he'd never lost his love for the dogs. He just entered into a partnership with a plant

based company last year. Yeah. And while he has continued that that professional relationship, the hot dog competition means more to him. Yeah, he's going to find a way to make it work this year. And guess what? He's going to smoke him. Oh, he's gonna put on a show. He's going to smoke. I want to see an all-time record. It feels good it feels like 4th of July we missed the 4th of July now we're back. It's got to the point where I would be disappointed if I don't get to see a record from Joey Chestnut. I'd agree. It's like Joey's not just taking on every other eater in the world he's taking on history. History. Yeah. Himself and it is

rare it's like him Usain Bolt you can say this about both guys when you're watching them compete Michael Phelps Michael Maybe yeah, maybe Michael Phelps, but you're watching Joey chestnut eat. He is the best eater not just in the world He is the best eater to ever live on planet Earth. Mm-hmm Nobody has ever been able to eat like him Nobody probably ever will like out of the billions of people that have ever existed. He's top dog. Yeah Mondo we'd be so lucky Mondo. Yeah Mondo and Joey chestnut. Mm-hmm two goats. Yeah All right, pfd your hot seat chilt wrong. My hot seat was gonna be Hank, but we already covered that a little bit So my hot seat is Jay Monahan. Oh

the the leader of the PGA tour Because he is stepping down He's his contracts not being renewed at the end of this year and instead they're getting Brian roll up from the NFL Brian roll up is gonna step into golf. He was on the short list of people that were gonna succeed Roger Goodell Oh after he left so there's a major coup by golf to get a top name But I also read that don't count Brian roll up out bouncing back to the NFL after he's done straight and golf. So I, the wheels started to turn a little bit. What's the biggest challenge facing golf right now? Big cat. Um, I would say, uh, getting everyone

to play in one league. Yes. So the blueprint that's in place, the framework that's in place, he's being brought in, I think in large part to figure out that's in place, the framework that's in place, he's being brought in I think in large part to figure out that framework, make a deal so that Liv and PGA, they get back together after they announced like a year and a half ago that they were merging. And then for the NFL, one of the biggest problems they're having is you're running out of guys that can afford to buy NFL teams that don't already have an NFL team. Yep One of the outlets for that could be allowing foreign investment funds in he's gonna go over to the PGA Figure out how to play nice with the Saudis and then he's gonna come back to the NFL in a few years and be like, okay

We're opening up the potential investors and NFL teams to foreign investment funds. Like, hey Saudis, come play ball with us in golf. Let me fix golf. And on the back end, I'll let you buy a franchise. Yes, I'll let you. I'll let you own an NFL team. I'm going to introduce you to American sports. We're going to figure out how to navigate sports media without killing any of the journalists. Once you can prove that you're good at that, then we're going to bring you into the NFL. I like it. That's where I see this going eventually. I also love that like commissioners of leagues,

there's like a pool of like 10 guys that they pick from. Yeah. Like there's, you know, he's gonna go to golf and go back to the NFL. It's like Gary Bettman started in the NBA and then he was like third in command and then went to the NHL. It's like, we only have so many guys we could pick from.

Yeah, I went to school to be commissioner. Yeah. And now I've got experience being a commissioner. I think that being the CEO of the PGA tour Probably a dream job. I would say so I would say more of a dream job than being commissioner of the NFL commissioner of the NFL dream salary Yeah, you get paid 40 million 44 million to just be a punching bag Yeah, but if you're the the CEO of the PGA tour, you're just you're hanging out on the court What about dream job actually you actually also have power? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah What about dream job being the producer of the number one sports podcast and getting a free trip to Pebble Beach by far?

I mean, that's just beyond the dream even truly Yeah, a free trip a free trip free trip to Pebble Beach. We booked the tea time We did this like two months ago thinking you know what if we play a basketball competition? Maxwell most likely hit a game-winning three in Hanks. Mm-hmm such a good moment It was such a good moment. Go watch it if you haven't already My cool throne is chill thrown chill thrown. My chill thrown is ping. Oh college World Series Yeah baseball bats. Yes college World Series. Yeah baseball bats Yes, college World Series has been awesome. Shout out gauge would an all-time name guy

Pitcher for Arkansas struck out 19 people 19. I and he threw a no-hitter no-hitter third No hitter in the college World Series. I think he hit one guy Right besides that it was a perfect game Yeah I actually think that if you throw 19 strikeouts and you hit one guy and throw a no hitter, that is the perfect game. I think they had an error as well. Oh, they had a before he hit a guy. But yeah, unbelievable. 19 strikeouts. Awesome. It's pretty incredible. And it was against Murray State. Yep. So shout out to the racers at Murray State. Cinderella runs over. They were an easy team to root for. Their coach cut the grass at the field. Yep. It was kind of cool to see them in it. But yeah, college baseball and with the MLB and NIL,

college baseball is way better than it used to be. Yeah. Because you've got more guys playing college ball, making money there instead of going to play in the minor leagues. So the World Series has been great so far. Yes, it has. It's been awesome. All right, the World Series has been great so far. Yes. It has it's been awesome

All right. My hot seat is Kevin Durant because it came out to Kevin Durant's preferred trade destination Was New York, but the Knicks didn't have the same level of interest. You can't let that get out Yeah, let that get out. I think I think James Dolan needed a dub Yeah, that was a good again. He was sick of getting rejected, so we had to be like, oh, just FYI, Kevin Durant wants to play here, but we said, no, we don't need you.

Yeah, and we also have the Shams body language experts out being like, did you see what he, the look he gave when they mentioned the Spurs as a landing spot for Kevin Durant. So everyone thinks he's going to the Spurs. I can't wait. Shams being a little cheeky with it He kind of looked at the camera gave a little smile. It looked like he like said it to Schumpert before yeah

And then he was like maybe mad like you were not supposed to say that yeah, but he's yeah Oh, yeah, oh he looked right into the camera. He told Schumpert like off the record He's on the spurs and chumbers like I think he's gonna go to the spurs Yeah, and and Shams was like what the fuck yeah it's my scoop horse win horses hair is just oh it's the best you see Wendy watching the game on a laptop love that yeah love it yeah grinding out backstage all his life all right couple other chill drones quick I actually the the the article came out about Devers being an asshole what do do you think Hank? I think that's just the the ownership

I think it's a smear job. Yeah It was a total smear job. He was a job. He wouldn't take ground balls Hank He wouldn't he when one of what your rookie said he would play first base after Devers said he wouldn't and then Devers got mad At him for being like why would you say that? Why would you play first? It's it's I feel like there's some truth to both sides, but I feel like this is you know Got mad at him for being like, why would you say that? Why would you play first? I feel like there's some truth to both sides, but I feel like this is, you know, the ownership has done this before. So it's like hard, it's hard to

believe everything they're saying. You gotta take it with a grain of salt. Yeah, Devers needs to get his smear job going the other way. Let me ask you this, Hank. If the Mookie Betts thing hadn't happened, would you still be taking Deverside in this? No, not necessarily Now it's like a pattern. Yeah, definitely. Yeah It's been a pattern also real quick Angel Reese

Getting the copyright for me bounds kind of a cool move. Yeah, I like it Oh, that's a that's a like making fun of yourself own it. Yeah me bounds is a great phrase And then finally my last chill throne MLB doing it right. They're going back to The regular uniforms for the all-star game, which I love okay So they're not doing the weird everyone wears the same uniform. Everyone's wearing their home or road Uniform there, which I think is so much better. They're wearing the same cap Uh, I don't know if they're wearing the same logo's old-school logos. So these these are every uniform

That's the home run derby uniform And like what the guys will be wearing during the home run derby and then when they're actually playing the MLB all-star game this year They'll be playing their own there will be wearing their own jerseys, which I think is so much better Yeah, they should put the old the the league logos on the jerseys too. You think so? Yeah. Those are great. ALNL? Yeah. Playing for League Pride? Yeah. Yeah. Or just a patch or something like it's kind of like they're wearing their own. They might be wearing their own hats. I like that. No, like the National League.

There's a National League logo in American League logo. Yeah. The old school one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I mentioned this on the show, but when I was in Milwaukee all the Brewers Like almost every single Brewer when I walked by said Christian yellows is gonna win the home run derby this year Yeah, you did but it it needs to be repeated because it needs to get me more. It's disgusting Yeah, all right, Zack your hot seat chill throne I do have a hot seat children free to big cat my hot seat today would be a Rain football lead fat punter getting absolutely leveled. Yes after his punt

crushed Destroyed I'm not really crushed. He just fell really hard cuz he's fat I mean they popped the top helmet off yeah face down in the turf, but I don't think he got hit that hard Big guys fall hard. He falls really hard the gravity He's like hey, so just got pushed and then it destroyed him It was a blindside block. They threw a flag on it, right? But it wasn't that wasn't like a Well, he got pushed by another fat. So he the guy wasn't moving that fast Fat-crying your neck on a swivel. I love this. They should just have an arena league

It's just 300 pounders only ever playing skill positions would be awesome Okay, good hot seat children. I do have a children for you as well Many can't week for the Rams coming up. They're going to Maui I think that's a fantastic place to be this time of year believe the weather this week can be 80 and sunny Wow I don't like it soft though. I don't like it. I'm sorry soft Don't you think that's soft soft? Yeah, I mean that's you're going to Hawaii for mini camp That seems like a lot of vacation although many camps not like it's not training camp I mean, there's gonna be a lot of football put in on field at the

That's actually but also you gotta yeah, I think there's a TV tours, you know, there's a sea turtle tours Future free a collado. So might yeah. And if they do this every year, it's kind of like our version of the Greenbrier in West Virginia. Just absolutely no distractions. I mean, they look like they're having the time, the best time ever. Yeah. I'm going to call it right now.

Soft Morales at all time. Hi here though. So team bonding, get the boys together. That's not grit. That's not football. Here's the thing. That's on the field. This is all for you.

I fully acknowledge the fact that OTAs are like not that useful You go out there you meet your teammates you do like a little bit of work It doesn't need to be held like hell in a cell where you're kept in prison while you do OTAs But also at the same time I see this and I'm like that's not old-school football. Could you Zach? Let me throw this out there like imagine like this podcast football podcast first and foremost. We have great week We that's what we do imagine if we did like a chill week where we just hung out and like golf and like hung out and California somewhere and swam and boated and stuff. I think that's great balance be great for vibes fantastic balance

Oh, you know, what's that? Good idea. Look at our head. Oh week this year. Good idea. Let's do it. Chill. We great great call Hank We got you another gift No way. Yeah Chill week. Oh my god. Yeah Yeah, you like like Taha last year do it more golf. It's for you more After the Ryder Cup here's another thing. Here's nothing Hank You are going to get to compete in a long drive competition Wow yeah, yeah, that's exciting And that's exciting another opportunity

You're gonna be competing against a guy that has been told by a swing coach to not hit driver at all Oh preparation for it. That's not what we said. Well. What did we say? Driver is a reward yeah I get to hit driver if I hit every other club like 20 times. It's like my give my kids gummy worms Yep, after dinner. Yeah, eat your dinner and you get dessert. Yeah, I have to eat all my vegetables. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay Good hot seat. Chill drone boys. Let's do Our interviews we got JJ spawned US Open champion and then our good friend George kiddall talking a little football and we'll finish with partner Your take before we get to JJney is brought to you by Experian. We're gonna take a moment to talk about BFFs Hank

Who is your BFF on the pod? I would have to go with the con man memes What the con man? That's BFFs what I call them. Oh memes. Who's your BFF on the pod? I'm going to go with Max Max Max, who's your BFF? I'm going to go with my friend Hank. Oh, wow. Zach, who's your BFF on the pod? That would be Big Cat.

Love that. Thank you, Zach. Who's your BFF on the pod? I got two. It's Zach and also Hank. OK. My BFF on the pod is nobody, because nobody picked me on this pod. There's one BFF who always looks out

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assume the check hasn't cleared. It clears on Wednesdays, but has it set in that you are now forever a U.S. Open champion? Yeah, I think so. It's been a little over 36 hours, I would say, to kind of let it all sink in. But kind of doing the whole media runs, you know, seen waking up next to the trophy the last couple mornings, it's starting to sink in, but it's definitely surreal. Still got to pinch myself sometimes. It's pretty great. So waking up next to the trophy, are you sleeping with the trophy? No, my, my wife would not allow that. She's, she's, she's, you know, the trophy, the real trophy. Yeah. I know, I know how, you know, that goes with life.

So I got to say the right things, but, uh, yeah, no, she, the, the trophy's been right there on the nightstand, uh, wake up next to it every morning. And you know, it's, it's something that you always dream of doing, having this wonderful trophy to kind of carry around and show off. Yeah, it is kind of cool. Like I know that when I got a new car, I would just sometimes walk away from the car and just like look at it in the parking lot.

Do you just find yourself stopping in your house and just like looking at the trophy? Oh yeah. Like I'm just staring at all the names, looking at all the details. I mean, this trophy is 120 plus years old. So it's incredible to have it in my hands. Alright so I have a question about the trophy then we want to talk about your final round at Oakmont. A mutual friend of ours tipped me off to this question so it's a two part question. The first is how many Monster Energy drinks did you drink on Sunday before the final round

and then how many monster energy energy drinks fit into the trophy? I don't know if you can guess who the mutual friend is. Jimmy Renna. Yes, Jim. Jim Renner. Yeah. I don't know where it texted me this. He didn't even know we were having you on. He just texted me on Monday morning. He's like, you have to ask JJ how many, how many monster energy drinks he drank on Sunday. I was like, dude, we don't even have them scheduled yet, but he knew. So, so how many monster energy drinks? Oh man. Well, it's a funny story. I don't drink white, white can monster energy drinks like, like Renner does, but, uh, we were, we were actually chatting about it. I think he could fit, you know, what are they tall

boys? I, I think he could fit four in there. We know it fits about eight IPA cans, you know, the whatever, 12, 16 ounces. So, but yeah, it's super funny, Renner. We have this story where I was traveling, we were traveling on the corn ferry tour together, you know, back in 2016, and we were staying at the same hotel, so we shared a car ride to the course. It was like 5 a.m.

We had early tea time, and he goes, in his boss next he's like yeah I got to stop at the gas station you know I was like all right let's go get a coffee or I was thinking he's gonna get coffee grabs an orange juice I'm like okay good start and then a white monster what are you doing like making a monster mimosa or something like ah ah, this is how I start my day. It's just been kind of like a funny inside joke. You know, the white can monsters that's that's renters choice of drink. So how many did you have on Sunday? None. I was drinking beer. Okay. But before the round, do you do it? Do you drink any monsters

before? Oh heck no. I couldn't do that. I do coffee in the morning. Um, I don't think the monster energy would really help the nerves and anxiety leading into the final round of the US open. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about nervous anxiety. Uh, I'm sure you've been asked this, but do you think you win this tournament if there is no rain delay? Because it did feel, uh, and you could tell us like how you felt to start the day. It was, it felt like it was slipping. You had a little bad luck where it, you know, hits the flagstick. Uh, but then the rain delay happens. And when you come back from the rain delay, you were locked in and you were like ready to go.

Do you think that that time off got you to a reset point where you're like, all right, I can still win this thing. Oh, 100%. Um, when that horn blew, Mike Hattie and I looked at each other. We, we kind of just said, you know, this is exactly what we need. Kind of a little break to, to go back inside, you know, reset, collect our thoughts and, and kind of get a fresh start, kind of like a halftime, you know, in, in any, in any other sport, um, where you kind of regroup and come back out firing. So it actually ironically happened to me the same thing happened at the players earlier this year

where I had a close call where I lost in the playoff against Rory where Sunday I was going into the final round with a one-shot lead and was kind of off to a slow start, lost the lead on the front nine and then this weather came in and we had about a three hour delay and went back out and Almost did the same thing just started firing on all cylinders clawed my way back to tie for the tournament after regulation and You know when that happened on Sunday at Oakmont. I kind of just went back to that experience I'm like, okay, like you've done this before and capitalized on it If it hadn't been going the other way where I was starting off hot, maybe leading and then the delay happened, it could have been a different story. Yeah. So what did you do during the rain delay? Um, I changed my clothes.

I was like, I'm not wearing these clothes. I want to come out like feeling like, like nothing was carrying over from that first start to the restart, I guess you could say. So, uh, yeah, changed everything. You might ca I mean, we got drenched, so it made sense to change clothes. We'd be sitting in a locker room freezing if we didn't. And, uh, yeah, we just chilled and had some, had some lunch and you know, it was a pretty quick turnaround about an hour and a half or so. And you know, it was, it was game on again. Yeah. How did you feel about the course this week? I know that there were some complaints about the course.

We respect the course at the U S open. We like to, we like to watch professional golfers struggle the way that we struggle when we play golf. So it was kind of nice for us, but being out there and you having to play it, did you, did you enjoy your rounds when you were actually playing a really like, I can't wait to get off this fucking thing? No, I embraced it. And I think that's the mentality you have to have going into a US Open. I mean it's the toughest test in golf.

And a lot of guys went to scout Oakmont early. People were asking me if I was going to do that and I said no, I'm not going to go there and start freaking out before I have to be there. You know what I mean? Like I don't want to go a month prior and be like, okay, I got to do this. I got to make sure this is right. I'm, I was just telling myself I'm going to go into the, into the tournament week with the game that I had and whether it would be good enough.

We'll see. And, uh, you know, I just took the course as it, as it came, you know, that's, that's all you can really do. Everyone's going to hit bad shots. Everyone's going to get bad breaks. Um, but I think kind of just staying in the moment and trying to take what the course gives you is the biggest thing you can do. And even when things weren't going great for me on front nine, I just tried my best to just stay patient and give what the course gave me.

And, you know, it gave me the win. Yeah. So, so your final like few holes, you hit some incredible shots. Obviously the drive on 17, was that, was that a drive of a lifetime? Was that the best drive you ever hit? Probably. I mean, that would be a 10 out of 10, you know, given the situation, the scenario, um, what was on the line. Um, but it was nice to, you know, I actually hit a really good drive in the practice round that was almost identical to that. So I kind of just had that in the

memory bank where, you know, okay, like I've hit a great tee shot on this hole before. But it was huge in the respect that, you know, going into 18, which was a fair way. I only hit once, maybe twice a week to kind of lean on that swing that I just put six minutes prior. Yeah. Yeah. It was a great kind of like pathway to being able to, to still cap it off. Cause 18 is no cupcake, you know, especially with a one shot lead at the U S open and you know, man, I bet the T Sean 18 might've been, you know been even a better tee shot than 17. Oh, all right, so we had one other shot we wanted to discuss. Our golf expert, Hank, on our show said

that he actually thought your approach shot on 15 was the shot of the tournament, where you get on, you know, you hit a great shot. You were in the rough, I don't know what it was, like 70 yards. Do you remember that shot? Yeah, yeah, I hit in the left rough off the tee, tried to lay up, the lie was okay, but it's so long and it's wet, it's been raining,

you have no control over the face. The last thing I wanted to do on that, the angle of that pin and the way the green pitches is miss this left in the left rough, cause then I'm dead. So I was like, okay, I'm just going to try to aim a little right. So it came out a little better than I want carried, carried it too far into the rough, but that lie wasn't great either. And, and I could have easily brought in double or double bogey or worse. Um, and to actually hit a really good shot out of there to about double bogey or worse. Um, and to actually hit a really good shot out of there to about

15 feet or so and have a chance for par was, uh, was great. I mean, you know, I, I didn't make the pot, but I was able to limit the damage and I don't think I made a double bogey all week. Yeah. No, that's what, that's what us open golf is about. And yeah, our, our golf expert, Hank was glued to the TV watching that one. And it was, it was very impressive. He came in, we were like, Oh, what about that drive on 17? What about that drive on 18? What about the pun on 18? He was like, no, the approach shot on 15. That was the one where it's like the disasters you avoid. I could agree with that. Yeah. Cause I could have, I could have made double or triple and then it's, it's over. You know, I mean, who knows what happens. And I kind of really start unraveling, you know, 16 through 18. Yeah. I want to go back to the weather delay real quick.

When you go into the clubhouse, did they have the TVs on? Were you guys able to watch Tiger Woods at the 2008 US Open? Yeah, we were watching. It was me, Scotty, Russell Henley, one of the Russell, Ken Taggart, one of the rules officials. We were just there watching it and just laughing at all the crap he was pulling off, like chipping in and, you know, rocko. And just looking at the clubs he's using, we're just kind of like giggling at that. And it was a cool moment to kind of just relax.

And you know, no matter how things were going on the course for me, it was, it was a nice way to kind of let go of it and come out with a better attitude. Yeah, you're like, at least this guy is not playing against me. It was a nice way to kind of let go of it and come out with a better attitude. Yeah, you're like, at least this guy is not playing against me. I don't have to go out there and be 2008 Tiger. I also heard that you got some advice from Tiger via Max Homa, who advised you to just stay there. Was it what you said was his advice was, does Max get 10% of your purse?

Was that $400,000? Max is rich enough. He's fine. He doesn't need my money. But no, it was a cool moment. This was probably a month or so ago where both members at Whisperock and we were just eating lunch and talking about how Tiger relates

the perspective on championship golf and what it takes to win that you don't have to do anything crazy that everyone thinks that You know he he had to pull off these miraculous shots He just did by nature because he's the goat but you know in a sense like you just got to stay there stay Like don't don't feel like you have to do anything crazy. Just stay within attack within shouting distance and you know, anything can happen, especially at hard golf courses. And, you know, that's kind of

the perspective I had all week, you know, leading up to the US Open was, you know, no matter where you're at, I mean, look at John Rom, I think he stuck around, he went off early and finished at four over, he even thought, like, I'm sure he was thinking the same thing, going into Sunday, he's like, if I shoot 300 par, I think he was starting the day at seven over. He's like, I can shoot four over and end up like maybe being in a playoff. And he did.

And he's, you know, that's, that's a perfect example of just kind of staying there, letting the pack come back, especially at the U S open. Yeah. Um, I got a couple of questions about your past, which are very interesting story, you know, obviously going, you know, being pro for so long, going back to the corn fairy tour and then coming, you know, climbing back up. But is it true that your mom, when she was pregnant with you, got permission from the doctor to keep golfing until she was eight months? So is this like one of those situations where like pregnant women like listen to like classical music to try to get the so

So you just were born to play golf because your mom was like I love golf so much I'm gonna golf seven months pregnant, which is insane. Yeah, I mean so yeah, that's a true story there's this little part three executive course in South Pasadena, California called the Royal Seco and She would my and my dad, that'd be like her exercise on the weekend would go play, walk nine holes. She would play golf and everyone, there she is with a big old pregnant belly

and everyone's like, that kid's gonna be a golfer, cause everyone's like, what the hell? Like this lady's playing golf? How do you even swing with this giant pot belly? But yeah, it was, it was pretty crazy how it's all manifested. And, um, you know, thanks to my parents to kind of give me the ability and maybe I got my swing from, you know, those motions in the womb, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the other one was how much credit do we give

the car that hit you when you were five years old, uh, to stop skateboarding? Because that feels like a sliding doors moment where your dad was like, no more skateboarding. You just got hit by a car. Uh, you might've been the next Tony Hawk instead of the us open champion. Yeah, that freaked me out. That definitely kind of, you know, scared me as, yeah, I definitely had scar tissue on what I was trying to accomplish skateboarding. You know, that was more of my bigger aspiration was to be a pro skater, be like Andrew Reynolds and Eric Ellington, Tony Hawk, you know, growing up. But yeah, it was crazy.

I was, I could have, I couldn't be, I could possibly have not been sitting here right now if it was like one second sooner or later, I kind of went right under this car and literally was sitting under it. The lady thought she ran over a cat. You know, we were just, you know, kids, it's like 1995, kids play out in the front yard. And, you know, here I am rolling down the skateboard. I think I was like on my knee doing something stupid.

And, you know, dad pulls me out. Yeah, everyone's screaming and dad pulls me out. I have all this grease and oil all over me and crazy moment, crazy, crazy moment. But yep, I still kept, you know, skateboarding and still loved it, but I'm glad I took, took golf over instead. You should find this woman and be like, thank you. golf over instead. You should find this woman and be like, thank you. You, you change my life. Yeah. Yeah. You show me that I should stop skateboarding. Yeah. By running over me with your car. So you went underneath the car like fully under it. I remember, I remember pushing my feet, like trying to like somehow lift it off of me. I mean, I don't do that, but like, I'm just like, and I'm glad I didn't try to, you know, barrel roll or whatever GI Joe crawl out of it. And, but it was, yeah,

it was intense. I think that's the only thing that can prepare you for Oakmont is getting hit by a car. Yeah. Yeah. How many guys have almost been run over by a car skateboarding and taken on Oakmont? No, yeah, you know, literally not almost. You were in fact, run over, fully run over by a car. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. We gotta find this woman. I would love to think like it'd be so awesome if this woman was watching the US Open on Sunday is like I hit that kid with the car. I did that. I did that.

I fucking ran over that kid with the car. How much credit do you give the read on 18? You get it was one of those moments like at the US Open you have to play great golf You need a little bit of luck you were lucky enough to have a great read on your putt did that did the read Actually change after you saw it was Hovland right right it was Victor Did you that change how you were approaching that putt? No, the only thing that I was trying to get feedback from it was the pace. 65 feet, I believe, around 64, 65 feet. I didn't have a putt that long all day.

And it had just been raining for, obviously, the delay. And then it started raining again on us, our last two holes. And so the greens are slower. And, you know, honestly, it was a great break to have to see how how hard I had to hit the putt. And you can hear in the sound of the click, how hard he hit it. You kind of saw, you know, the pace it took to get up. But also, once it got up on top of that ridge, it's kind of straight, like gently downhill as well. So for him to also hit a great putt, to hit it what, six feet by was huge too. Because if he hit a shitty putt, like that teaches me absolutely nothing. And, you know, I was just focusing on putting a good stroke on it.

You know, luckily, you know, my lab putter, I can literally hit anywhere on the face and the distance control is great. So, you know, it was, it was one of those comfort zones where I'd been putting great, you know, lag putting was great all week long. And, uh, it's funny, we have a little practice round game with me and some of the boys I play with in my caddy where we do a hundred dollar makes during practice rounds. We just go to a crazy spot in the green on a practice round and just hit like 50, 60 footers. You make it, you get everyone owes you a hundred bucks. So literally the last thing I did before I stepped into that routine was like a hundred dollar make. Yeah. Yeah. Now daddy owes me a hundred dollars. Um, this is a dumb question, but

like if Victor Hovland, if he was like, Hey, I I'm still in this tournament. I know he was a few back. Could he have theoretically chipped that ball and not giving you a read? Like would that have been a really bad, like unspoken rule for him to do that? But like it would have been incredible games and shipping. He's like, I'm not giving this guy a read. Oh yeah. That that would have been a dick move. I mean, this happened to Phil when Phil won his first major. I don't know if you remember that Chris DiMarco was in the front bunker and kind of you know hits his bunker shot two inches behind Phil's ball maybe I don't know exactly but it was on the same line and so he putted first and Phil had that putt to win. Not to yeah yeah, like he didn't need it too, but he had to make it.

And even, you know, I think he kind of tapped him on the butt too, you know, after the bunker shot was kind of like, thanks, because he knew what was coming, you know, and, you know, that's just the things that need to happen, you know, in major championships and just to win tournaments, things got to go your way. And, you know, fortunately, I was on the receiving end of it. Yeah. I remember Phil stepping in like real fast after he hit that putt, like getting right behind him. Does that go through your head? Like I need to keep a respectful distance until he hits the putt and then I'm charging in? Yeah. I was probably 15 feet kind of to his, you know, his right.

You know, it's kind of, he knows I'm, he knows I'm there, but I'm not in his view. You know, you don't want him, you don't want to be behind him because he'd be like, is this guy literally like two feet behind me? So, you know, I stood to the front of him to the right. So he knew I was here, but I wasn't like, you know, sneaking up on him.

But yeah, I rushed in there, but, but like I said, like I saw, I saw where he wrote it up the ridge, but I was mostly looking at the speed because I, we kind of knew where we had to play the putt as far as the line goes. But the speed was the most important part. I think, I think I'm going to start petitioning for golfers to start chipping on the green just to fuck other golfers over. I think I need that to happen. Like what it would have been an all time moment if I was just like, no dude, I'm not giving you this read.

Like if his best friend was second place, if he was best friends with McIntyre or something, it was like, yeah, it's like almost like NASCAR driving. Like I'm going to box you in here. Exactly. Yeah. You could have, I mean, might leave some friends, but I mean, we're not at the end of the day, we're not all friends. We're here to kick each other's asses. Yeah. Yeah, you talked about your new putter has it ever occurred to you Maybe you should try the broomstick putter. Did you not see what I did Sunday? Good point. Yeah before that our golf expert just recently transitioned to a broomstick putter and It's it's quite a look for a young man to be using a broomstick putter. Yeah. I mean, well, when I started the year, I got this lab putter back during the off season. My putting has always been like a very hot and cold sort of statistic for me.

I'd been using a traditional blade style putter where it's a lot of feel is involved, which I like. I like feel but I was just thinking how can I get better and you know I was talking to Adam Scott last year at Colonial and he's he's a lab golf ambassador and he's you know played great since switching to the lab putter and kind of talked me into it you got to get comfortable with with the look first and foremost it's it's different because it's got zero torque and there's a lot of science behind the design, but, you know, I worked with it all off season and, you know, put it in play at Sony and I was leading Sony going into Sunday ended up finishing

third, but that was kind of, that was kind of the missing link to kind of putting more consistently, I guess. That was kind of the missing link to kind of putting more consistently, I guess. The biggest thing I took from it was how the technology in the putter, in the DF3 that you can kind of hit it anywhere on the face because of the way it's designed. Like it keeps the same speed up. So speed is king when you're trying to like make putts. If you don't have the right speed, you're not gonna hit you're not gonna hit the line that you're trying to and it's gonna miss So how nice is it to have a part of where you feel like every time you stroke it?

No matter where you hit on the face It's gonna have the same speed that you're trying to make the putt with so I think it's helped me become a more consistent putter as of late and You know it it was a good putt on on Sunday as well. So great. Yeah Yeah, all right. I know you got to run in a second So a couple last questions the the story about the diabetes like you so you got diagnosed with diabetes too And then you keep losing weight and then you're like, oh no whoops. We screwed up You have diabetes one when you finally found that out

Did you feel like so much better being like oh my gosh I can actually manage this now and then was it was it kind of the same timeline as you going back down to the Corn fairy and then back up because it's about I would assume there was a moment where you're like am I am I just done? Am I cooked here? Yep. Yeah, so This was 2018. I was that was my second year on tour It was during the playoffs in August and you know, I've been a chubbier kid growing up So this was 2018, that was my second year on tour. It was during the playoffs in August. I've been a chubbier kid growing up. I was never like, you know, thin.

I was never worried about keeping weight on. It was always keeping weight off. And in August, at the end of 2018, I was noticing I went down to the last notch on my belt and you know as far as tightening wise and I said That's weird. Like I've never had that issue. I always have to add a hole or two to fit into it, but My my wife who was then my girlfriend She's like you need to just go to the doctor and it was weird because everyone's like dude, you look good, man You've been working out and stuff and I'm like no I've been

You look good, man. You've been working out and stuff. And I'm like, no, I've been drinking beer and just like eating whatever, but thanks, you know? So I didn't step on a scale until, you know, the end of the year when I got back home. And I literally, the last time I weighed myself, I was probably like 215 and I weighed like 185 without even trying, which, you know,

the 215 was probably, you know, at the start of the season, the first third. So I ended up going to just a general physician and they did my labs like, Oh yeah, you have diabetes, you know, your, your sugars through the roof and, you know, take some metformin and diet and exercise. I'm like, okay, I can diet better, but I mean, I exercise quite a bit. And so I did that for like three years and then I just kept losing weight.

Cause that's like one of the symptoms you, if you're, you're, if you don't produce any insulin, well, you don't have the, it's like a key to yourselves where your food kind of goes into your body and produces energy. And so basically you're like in ketosis where you just, body is just eating the fat and like muscle and stuff to kind of stay alive. So, uh, I did that for like three years and I weighed to like, I went down to like 165 pounds. Yeah.

And this was 2021, like in February and my friend's a doctor. He said, go to an endocrinologist. I had no idea. He's like, you need to do more extensive testing. And they did like this beta cell, you know, uh, pan Chris test where they detect how much insulin you have. And basically they've determined I make zero insulin and you know, I have to be on insulin therapy and that completely changed my life. Yeah. And then you come back up and it was just like, you're, you're back to, you know,

you're, you're, you got the PGA card back. Yeah. And then I, yeah, it transformed my game back to where it needed to be. And, you know, I think the, you know, physical and mental part, you know, overcoming that, getting comfortable again, you know, led me to where I'm at today. That's US Open champion, US Open champion. Pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Last question. Row back question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers,gers shorts row back dot com promo could take. My last question is there's a story of you going to like a local muni to to to practice because you wanted to kind of like get back

to your roots. I'm going to be cynical. I think you were doing that because you could basically look at everyone be like at least I'm not that bad. Yeah I just wanted to feel confident about myself. Okay these guys are out here as long as I am and I can do better than that. So it it boosts my confidence a lot. Yeah. That's smart because everyone's like oh man he's a man of the people. I'm like I feel like he might be doing this because like he can at least give himself some frame of reference of like hey I'm not so bad. I'm like one of the best golfers in the world. Exactly. I appreciate it boys. That was a blast. Yeah. Thanks so much man. Best of luck rest of the season. Thanks dudes. JJ Spahn

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TEU coming up June 23rd to 25th. We're getting tight ends paid and George George you are the tip of the spear. You got paid big time money. Congratulations. Congratulations. We're very happy for you. Are you setting the market? Yeah. Are you? Are you setting the market? Set in the market. Hopefully it's something that Sam Laporta will cross next year. Yeah. Down the portal and then you got Brock in a couple of years. Um, yeah, there's a, there's a lot of guys that need to get paid. I'm excited about that. So hopefully the next guy's getting over 20 million. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah. What was it like though when you, uh, cause it, how much guaranteed money did you have? Uh, 40. That's pretty sweet. Was that, so

did that all go in at one point at one time? No, no, no, no, no. That's pretty sweet. Was that, so did that all go in at one point at one time? No, no, no, no. That's over the course of like two and a half years. Oh, well they don't give you all your guaranteed money right away. Where's your signing bonus? Uh, uh, it basically I get basically I get this year and everything kind of hits. I get the nice chunk that hits in September because the way that the way that like the money has been flowing and how we had We're still paying people. I get a big chunk of my money in September. Okay, that's great It's gonna be awesome and you can you can tell all the Titans at TU like I had to do this deal for you guys It wasn't for me. It was that you guys can get paid right? It's for the boys. Yes

So all it is, you know, I just want to also say I'm so excited to be back on the show with you boys. Oh my God. Just a couple of beauties. Yeah, we, we miss you. We're going to see you in Tahoe as well, which I'm very excited about. You, you, I mean, we'll do a cross promo like you're, I can't, you're golfing in the tournament. What do you expect out of yourself to be golfing in the tournament? You can't finish last. I don't want you to finish last. No, I mean, Hey, I shot shot a, you know, I'm a low nineties golfer. I break, I break 90 every once in a while. So I shove back to backgrounds at 92s the last two days. So, you know, if I can just pull out one of those, I'll be so happy. And if I don't, my driver doesn't hit somebody in the face. I've, I've, uh, started sensing this recently, like talking to, to different athletes. It's such bullshit the way they talk about their golf game, where if you ask an athlete, like, how are you at golf? They're like, Oh, I suck. You know, I shoot in like, you know, eighties low nineties, like, and I only play like a few times a year. It's like, that's bullshit, man. I always really good. Yeah.

That's really good for only a few times a year. You guys, turns out athletes are really good at playing sports. Yeah. It'd be, it's crazy that if you know, you're a professional in something, you actually could be, you know, decent at other sports. That is a wild concept, isn't it? Yeah. The hand-eye coordination, it turns out that that transfers for you guys. It blows my mind every time. Yeah. Yeah. I want to thank you, George. I want to thank you for, uh, for making important stance online the other day, because some people including, I'm not going to name names, but there's some people maybe behind the glass that root for the Philadelphia

Eagles. No, I think, yeah, you're right. Hank was kind of a dick about it, but I'm mostly looking at, yeah, I'm looking at Max. My new wide receiver, your former teammate, Debo Samuel went a little bit viral. I was trying to explain to these guys that it's called a group install and you jog through and That's he's not trying to break any land speed records when he's running you hopped online and tried to clear things up But maybe you could educate America on how actually not fat Debo Samuel is I'm just gonna say this Evil Samuel plays football. He doesn't play spring ball. No pads football Yep He, he will Samuel plays football. He doesn't play spring ball, no pads football. Yup. And if you look at his career highlights, when he has shoulder pads on, that is,

that's how he plays the game, which is the way it is structured for us to play the game. So like, I will say like media for the NFL from post-draft until the season starts, everyone's just looking for something to talk about because there's nothing to talk about. And so it's pretty brutal. And Devo just catches flack because, Hey, he didn't have this season that, you know, his best season of his career last year and guys gave people gave him flack

for that. Devo still Devo. He's, he's going to go out there. He's going to truck sick people. He's going to make some insane plays that no one else can make. He's going to catch a screen pass, break four attacks and go 60 yards to the house. So Devo is going to Devo. That's just what it is. And so these people that are just talking shit about them, they can all, you know, F right off. Okay. So, uh, good answer. I noticed in that answer though, Max, did you notice something? Did you notice the, there was one thing that was missing in that answer? Max, Max, what was it? I didn't say this is, this is you saying this. Well, okay. I'll say it. I noticed in that answer, you just did not address the fat

Debo part. You didn't say anything about fat Debo. It's power. You said everything else, which all was good. And I agree, Debo's the man. We're also pro-fat. We are pro-fat. We're pro-fat on this show.

Debo has got big bones, fellas. He's got big bones. That's all it is. And it's, again, it's like, you know, when, yeah, he might have hibernated in the offseason, but he'll be ready to go for training camp. That's all it is. And it's again, it's like, you know, when, yeah, he might've fibernated, you know, in the off season, but he'll be ready to go for, for training camp. I promise you that much. Okay. We are a pro fat podcast. So that is true. I like to imagine that when Max says it, he's, he's spelling a P H fat with a

pH fat Debo. And listen, you got to have some junk in the trunk if you're going to play football, right? That's a Bella check. Kirby smart. They look at your guy's asses.. They're like I want a guy that's got a motor. That's facts. Hmm is your ass for motor? That's kind of nice. Yeah. Yeah He is one of my favorite players to watch play football when he has the ball in his hand And I'm just excited that that I get to root for him But yeah, you were kind of a part of that this offseason to just a lot of news people want want to read about you Is that strange? Like having

the world know that you're going into contract negotiations and speculate on how much money you're going to get paid? Oh, dude, I was at the Super Bowl in New Orleans. I'm doing like the media circuit and I just get asked about my contract. I'm like, I don't know if we've even had any discussions yet, but sure we can talk about something that has nothing to do with you guys. Yeah. Like a blast. Yeah. Uh, it is weird. It is weird, but it's like, then I get asked about Brock Purdy's contract. I'm like, I don't know shit about his contract. Don't ask me. Like I'm just his teammate that watches him play. He should get paid, but I don't know any details. Why are you asking me? Yeah, that's gotta be the more awkward one. The Brock Purdy where it's

like, cause I assume there's an unspoken rule in the locker room where it's like, Hey, no one talk about someone else's money here. Like, you know, George has got to get paid. Brock's got to get paid to be the guy to stand up and be like, and not, and like get involved in any way. It's just a bad move in a locker room. It's just weird. Like, I know I learned it early on in my career. It's like, don't talk for other people, let them say what they want to say. Uh, like you can always give it, you know, Hey, Brock works really hard. He's a great teammate. He deserves a contract, but like the nickel and diamond stuff like that. Nah, it's just bad ball. Just don't talk about it because you're going to put your foot in your mouth at some point. Yeah. Um, last season. Yes. Season from how for the 49ers in terms of you guys obviously

have been really good, really competitive for you basically your entire time there. But last season it felt like not the end of something, but it was just everything that could have gone wrong, went wrong for the 49ers and you could just feel that. Is that, is it like, Hey, we can just, it's almost better. Like we can flush the entire season. And it was there a moment during the season where you're like, fuck man, we can't catch a single break. I would say early on in the season we lost back to back divisional games and I was like we're gonna have to really figure something out here like to be able to even go on a run and then we had that diabolical run of like at Green Bay at Buffalo and just got our shit pushed in.

And it was like, yep, that's going to be a tough one. Like if you give up 150 yards rushing and then you are like 10% on third downs, that's just kind of hard to win a football game. So I will say the one benefit to like not making the playoffs is that was my first January off since 2020. And so I took it and I think the team took it as a big refresher. And I will say that like when everybody came back to OTAs and like everybody was in attendance for the first time in since 2019, everybody was really fired up to play football. So it

kind of like gets that hunger going a little bit earlier. So it was kind of fun for that, but missing the playoffs absolutely sucks. But if you got to find some positive out of it, I did get an extra month just to kind of recover. And now my body feels fantastic. Yeah, that's gotta be great. You guys either make you guys ever make the NFC championship game or you don't make the playoffs. That's kind of the only thing that you do. What is that statistic?

That makes no sense. It's crazy. I don't know. Once you guys get in, you're forced to be reckoned with. Yeah. Maybe you can tell us like what is it about you guys? You get in the playoffs, you're confident? It's a confidence thing.

And then I mean, I look back like the 2021 season when we snuck in as a seventh scene We had to win like our last three games and then we somehow went in the Lambo and beat the one seed I would just say that like what we've brought ourselves on as being very violent and very gritty And then we let like, you know our superstars be flashy and when you had a guy like McCaffrey He could be all flashy be super pretty and stuff But he's still a gritty ass dude So it's kind of fun to just kind of be that team that guys people don't want to face in the playoffs And yeah, like you said whenever we get in there, we do a pretty good job of winning the first couple Yeah, you you were saying earlier that you were saying earlier that Hank is a dick some people

So specifically with Hank, I don't know if you listen to part of my take during the season, probably not advisable for you to do that. I always listen to Mondays. Always no matter what. Did you hear any of the news that well, I can't say it was Hank that was putting it was not. It was the walls at the at Barstow sports. They were talking about Christian McCaffrey not coming back to play football. Retiring. Retiring last year. Yeah. Did you hear any of that, anything from the walls inside your program? I heard it from my, Hank was actually just sending me DMs about how I should tell McCaffrey to retire.

He was just, I don't know. Did you have like money on him retiring or something, Hank? Is that what this is? No, he just heard- I never reported that either. The walls reported it and he, it was one of those ones where Hank just got, it was almost, I'm going to defend Hank. Here's how many defend Hank. Hank happened to be in a conversation where he heard it, where if PFT and I were in that

conversation, we would have done the same walls reporting that Hank did. He just like, wrong time, wrong place to be in the Christopher Caffrey might think about retiring conversation. I also said it in a way where I was like, this is actually 100% off the record. We can't talk about it. And then cause I was like, there's no way it's true. This is a complete bullshit rumor that I heard. Like I'm not, it's not valid enough to say. And then dig yourself out of the hole. I like it. Yeah. And then I just got thrown under the bus per usual. That's all right. Yeah. So Hank, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So that never was, were you ever like, Hey, I'm, I'm kind

of tuned into the NFL media and this one podcast is, uh, is saying you might retire Christian. Is that true? I brought it up to him almost daily just for fun, just to piss him off. Oh yeah. Let's light a fire under crack Christian's ass. He doesn't really need it, but the more motivation he gets, the scarier he is. So I believe he's going to have, he's going to have a fun year this year. Did you ever fancy coach out draft them? Okay. But that's, there's a lot of people who are, they got, they got really badly burned last year. Did he feel, could you sense any remorse from like him where he's like, I really like, yeah, obviously I missed a lot of for my teammates and for the team and the franchise. But really

what's sad about this injury is everyone who drafted me number one overall. Yeah, no, he, I think that's all I thought about the whole year. I think he sent individual messages to each person who drafted one overall and apologized. I think that's what he did. Class act. That's huge. Can you, can you make a case to Jerry O'Connell that if he does draft Christian McCaffrey for us this year, that you will block extra hard for him?

Yeah. Well, the nice thing about when you have Christian McCaffrey at running back, it makes my job way easier because of how he sets up blocks and stuff like that. So when you have a guy like Christian, actually makes our entire O line and tight ends better So yeah, we're all gonna block our asses off for him and he's gonna have another fantastic season Yeah one thing I love about you and I love about the the tight ends is What you've done with tight end University to you where you get together?

And it feels like you guys are all kind of picking each other up helping each other out I don't know if Trey McBride is going to be there this year. He is. He is. So I was wondering, across the league, in the fraternity of tight ends last year, when he just couldn't get a touchdown for whatever reason, he was playing really, really well. He's playing great football. Amazing.

But he couldn't score for some reason. Were you guys all rooting for Trey to get a touchdown, even though he's in the same division as you? Were you like, come on, man. This is bigger than just the Cardinals against the 49ers. This is about the position of the tight end. Oh, dude, I remember, I think I hit him up like week 13 or 14. I was like, Trey, just tell Coller to throw you the ball four straight times, first, second, third, and fourth down.

You just got to get in there. Because once you get one, then it just kind of rolls. But Larry, getting that first or second touchdown just takes forever. I'm happy for him that he ended the year with a couple. So hopefully he'll, he'll start off this year pretty hot is my guess. Yeah, I could see that. So, so tight end you, uh, coming up next week, uh, we talked to, to, to Greg Olson about it as all, uh, as well. Uh, very excited next year. Hopefully we're going to be able to make it. We have a golf tournament this year. What do we got planned for this year? Anything new, any new wrinkles? Because it is great. And tight ends. I went through the stats with Olson when he came on, you guys are just getting paid way more and it's, it's

what you're doing is working. Yeah. I mean, I think since 2019 it's jumped up over $10 million. So that's, that's doing pretty good. Um, whatever we are doing is working, you know, Titanew has been great, just bringing guys together. Um, you know, you got rookies running routes with Travis Kelsey, you got young guys in the same line as Dallas Clark and Rob Gronkowski. So it's just, it's that, that itself is pretty fun. And, you know, if guys just take a couple of things from Titanew, whether it's like something about a route, something about techniques, something about their lifestyle, uh, that they learn and it helps them out a little bit, you know, that's all we really care about.

You know, just, uh, what I would say is just evolving the position, you know, as we, as we play the game together. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, is there a class that you guys are doing this year about how to cash in on being a professional wrestler? If things are like towards the end end of your career make that transition? You know what I think triple H said he might stop by for a class. I don't know

Hopefully maybe if not this year, maybe next year I get a WWE guy in there and explain, you know We'll get a wrestling ring up and this have auditions. We'll have the WWE tryout there. Yeah, that'd be actually that'd be actually incredible I think yeah, I would watch that I would be a part of that I actually I do think that tight ends are the most ready-made for the transition into WWE Is that is that gonna be your your career after football? You know what whatever door is open? I'm not saying no Much whatever happens happens. You know, I might need a couple managers like the pall bearer You guys could definitely do that Say less in what? Hey, what point of the off

season are you like, all right, let's go ready for football. Or is that like, cause you're getting older, you're, you're later in your career. Does that still exist where you're like, Hey, at this point, let's call it, you know, late June, maybe July 4th. You're like, all right, July 4th over, let's go. I want to play some football. Um, I would say that like the itch or the anxiety of like trying to, you know, wanting to be in shape and ready. That usually hits me in like, I would say end of March, early April, and then it just gets worse and worse as the rest of the summer goes on. You can ask my wife, she just, she's like, you need

to take a deep breath. I'm like, I don't want to take a deep breath. I just want to work out and do cardio and catch a lot of footballs, but it just keeps, it just keeps escalating and escalating and escalating until rely is like, I feel like you could ask any NFL football player. I'd say a majority of them say that like not like a crippling anxiety, but like thinking about it every single day. That's about all you can do for the entire month of July. That's very real. Yeah. The, the, the people say it's, it's basically like the two weeks before camp feels like the night before first day of school where you just see like shit like we got first day of school coming up. Damn it. Damn it. Damn it. And like, all right, here we go.

Yep. That's, that's really it. And it's just like, did I train enough? Did I catch enough footballs that I work out enough? Uh, have I studied enough? Am I ready to go? And then when you get back to training camp, you know, training camps, training camp, it's incredibly hard. But once you get, once you get back into it, then you find your, you find a rhythm again, pretty quickly. Do you love the first day when you get the pads on it? Cause that you are a violent guy. You like to be violent. Is that like a relief? Like, Hey, we're actually now playing football. Do I hate OTAs cause it's not football. Like I can't stand it. Cause then like, I'll get like coached on the run game. And I'm like, I'm run blocking without shoulder pads on.

That is how you play the game. I I'm like, I'm not going to change it up. Like, I'm not going to change my technique to be able to block without pads on. When pads come on, then I'm blocking. And that's how I know how to do it. So yes, I love the first day of pads. I, and then the only time I ever like practicing without shoulder pads like in the season when you're kind of just you know Jog three and plays and just kind of learning but when it comes to competing

Yeah, I give me the shoulder pads and let me be out my best cuz I'm pretty good at that Yeah, otherwise you're jogging through plays. You're doing group install Install baby. No, it's just not the same and any. And you know, guys like to take film from that and, you know, critique it. It's just not the same. Yeah. I wouldn't want to be one of those guys, Max. That's right. Have you hit anybody this off season?

Have I hit anybody this off season? I know. I did get to do some run blocking stuff with Trent Williams. You know, he was at our mini camp stuff. So we got a pad in front of us. We got to run off and hit that. But no, I have not got to hit anybody very hard yet. So that that'll be coming. I can't wait. Yeah. I imagine that you probably missed that. I would miss that. Violence is coming. Yeah.

I like that. That's a great tagline for the 20, 25 Niner season. Violence is going. Yeah. I'm really excited about it. I just like looking at your guys's faces. You're just so adorable Hey, what did uh has Brock pretty bought anything awesome with the money? Cuz he's like you on you obviously had gotten paid a little bit. He he literally went from getting Nothing in relative terms to a starting quarter back to getting paid a lot of money Do you think he bought anything special or did anything like a new tractor or something? Do you think he bought anything special or did anything like a new tractor or something? Um, the tractor thing, I don't think he has to buy those. I think he gets those for free. Um, I would say, you know, he said he wanted to buy like a big fishing boat, which he definitely,

that's what he likes to do in his spare time is like the fish be out on the water. Like he did, you know, he did purchase a Nashville, Tennessee house. So he'll be kind of a neighbor to me at some point, which would be pretty fun because I'm a quarterback that can throw to me all the time. That's actually on my team. So I'm excited about that. So I think, I think that counts as a big purchase, right? Yeah. That's huge. Yeah. Buying a house. Have you made any upgrades to the barn? Dude, the barn is continually growing and getting bigger. So no like structural, but a lot of New Jersey's equipment, clean it out. It's a

full NFL facility now, boys. It's a good time. Yeah. I mean, the football field that you have behind your barn is everything that I wanted as like an eight-year-old growing up. You live in like an eight-year-old paradise, which is incredible. I really do. Oh dude, it's so much fun. I live on one side of my barn. I have my, we eat breakfast. Then you go to the gym, you work out, you go to the field, you run routes, you do sprint training, and then you come back in and we have an N 64 hooked up. We play super smash bros and, and, uh, Mario Carter. That's the absolute, but you got it. I think next step is get a tattoo chair in there.

You know what? I have been tattooed in the barn before, so that's how I got, uh, what is it? Uh, my, one of my hand tats was in the barn. So yeah, we, we got everything in there. I even have a barber that shows up to the barn. That's awesome Do you have any new ink for the season? I? Did just get uh, I got sar on from Lord of the Rings done a couple weeks I mean a couple months ago, which I was pretty excited about yeah, that's pretty cool. How long did that one take? What's I think we did like a seven-hour session one day and then we did like a three hour session the next day

Were you sedated for it or were you awake? No, I was very awake my tattoo artist I have one in indianapolis and um He he has a very good technique his name's cody and he has a very good technique. We're like Honestly, like it was the least painful tattoo i've ever had in my life I was just kind of sitting there and the thing is too like I'm sitting there streaming, but not streaming, but like I'm playing Pokemon on my laptop because I play like a randomizer. It's called Kaizo Ironman Pokemon. I'm not, I'm a nerd. I know, I'm sorry, but uh, I'm playing that for like eight hours and they get tattooed. So it's pretty easy. What, what is the game Pokemon? It's uh, so it's like

you're playing like the original Pokemon game. Okay, except like they made a ROM hack for it and it has the first three generations of all the Pokemon all in like fire fire red and then it's all randomized so like if you go to professor oak and You'll go to the three pokeballs. It could be like a dragonite Aradatata and a Charmander and then the game will tell you what's running at the pick and you have to take that Pokemon and you have to beat the entire game with just that one Pokemon and if you die at the restart the entire game. Have you ever played Dungeons and Dragons? You know what? Very mildly like four or five years ago, but like we got to get you into the game with us. I feel like you would enjoy it. Yeah, I would definitely enjoy it. I mean, if it's anything like stranger things, I'll have a great time without like the, without

the underworld place that looks the upside down. That looks scary. Are you still watching stranger things? I'm sorry. They just took too long. It took too long. Um, I, whenever the newest season comes out, I will watch it because I think it's very, it's very fun to watch. I like it. I loved the first two or three seasons and then first three first three were incredible. Then it just took a while for the first two or three seasons and then first three first three were incredible that it just took a while for the next two to come out and then the kids got old and I was like, this is kind of different and I don't know. It's a different vibe. It's a very different vibe. Anytime that it goes from like just kids being friends to then

you have to add in like a romantic thing. It's just, it's a little, it's a little bit different, but I still like the show and I'm excited to see what they do with it. I mean, I thought last season was really fun. I mean, the what's the guys, bad guys, Vega or whatever that guy was, he was scary. All right. I gotta get back into it. Um, all right. Yeah. What are we talking about? Tied in you. Yeah. Yeah. Tied in you before, before we let you go though, I want to do a sphere review. Uh, you were, you were at the same show as me. I miss you by like two seconds. It was crazy. I looked down. I see you. I think you were with Jewish Shack and Christian McCaffrey. You were, you

were having the time of your life and I was like, Oh shit, I'm going to go say hi to my best bud George. And then I get down there and you had, you had went up to your suite. So I missed you, but it was, was it everything you thought? Like it's, it's the coolest thing, right? I mean, grateful that at the sphere is one of the coolest things I've ever done because I went back to fallen weekends while to another show. And I brought my wife that time too. It wasn't an incredible experience. Like they just know how to throw a concert. And the sphere is just,

I went to Kenny Chesney two weeks ago at the sphere too. Incredible. It's just, there's nothing like it. Like you can't compare it to any concert because it's just a completely different vibe. Yeah, it was awesome. Did you end up going to Diplo after? I did go to Diplo, yeah. Yeah, that was the test of my friendship with you. And it was, just so you know,

like I actually thought about it for a second, which is crazy because you texted me, you're like, hey, we're going to Diplo after the Sphere. Do you want to come? And I was like, I was already in bed and I like ah I love you so much and I want to hang out with you but I don't think I can do that yeah it's a it's a beast I know and I'm not really up for I like I like day drinking and then going to bed at a good time right the next day I can do it

again I don't really like staying up till 3 a.m. that's terrible but I love EDM music as well And so any chance I have to see Marshmallow or Diplo I'm like and then I've chain smokers like I'll go see that any day The week like I don't want to listen to those guys. Yeah, you're like music man. You're built different, too I would imagine that would be the one positive of getting that anxiety you talked about getting into shape Once you're into that peak shape, you could probably hang and party longer because you're like, you're just a beast. I, I can drink a few beers this off season. I've, I have up that counter on my, on my

resume. I've done that. I've deleted. Thank God. Bud light is a good sponsor. We have Bud light. Uh, you know, I just, and then I need to rehydrate after a long night. Love that. And some Gatorade water. And then you know what, two in the morning, I just, and then I need to rehydrate after a long night. Love that. And some Gatorade water. And then you know what, two in the morning, I can just use some old spice smell really good and maybe even use some dude wipes. Like why would I not do that? Dude wipes is huge for the, for the morning after.

Yes, it's huge. You know, you just, you need that, you know, and maybe just, you know, maybe if, you know, it's a little groggy in the morning, my eyes here, I was throwing a nice new era of baseball cap and you know, I'll just protect my eyes and my, my face from the sunny rays. That's great. And then if it's like sunny outside and you go outdoors, you don't want to wear pants, right? No. So I might as well get some shorts from chubby so I can tan these nice long legs. That's my wife loves.

But wait, did you just not, did you not eat anything in this entire like recoup? Oh, you know what? Good thing is what's great after a long night is a good sandwich from Jersey Mike's. Okay. Fantastic. Anything you want. Yeah. If you're logging online to order your Jersey Mike's what I mean, how can you get the internet and remote locations like your barn that I use Starlink. Oh not Google Fiber. Okay, is that Google Fiber not a sponsor? Google is a sponsor. It's not on the list. I have written down in front of me right now So my marketing team's probably like no just say yes, I'm gonna say yes There any left

Kinder which is like a barbecue steak thing and they're providing great food for the boys Let me see if there's anything else off the top of my head. I don't know. The only other thing I really have to do on this show is I was in Wisconsin a couple of weeks ago with one of my buddies. He owns a Lake house and like, uh, it's in Wapaka Wapaka. Yeah. Wapaka.

And it's a sick Lake house. And one of the, one of the, we're at a restaurant and it's probably like 18 year old is like, dude, Greg, I can't wait to see you. I'm part of my take again I'm like hey well enough. I'm in like eight days. He was like will you say hi to me? I'm like sure Jackson MoPacka I'll say hi to you. I'm part of my take I had for you. Yeah, you nailed that So wait, what are your sponsors called tinder

Kinder, okay, I thought you said tinder kinder. said Tinder. That'd be a different sponsor entirely. It's going down. All right. Well, I got one. So everyone tight end you again is coming out. Uh, they're doing 20 June, 23rd, 25th. It's going to be awesome. Uh, last question for you. Row back. R H O B A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com 20% off promo code take, uh, give me a prediction for the 49ers in 2025 prediction. Um, this is, this is how I see it. Um, we had a ton of guys leave. We have a lot of turnover. We lost all pro players. We lost pro bowl players. Debo, Aaron Banks went to the, our left guard went to the Packers. Traveris Ward, one of my favorite teammates, locker buddy. He went to the Colts. Fargrave went to the Vikings.

Hafanga and Dre Greenlaw go to the Broncos. So yeah, we're very aware that we lost some players. But from the way that we did free agency, I like the guys that we brought in for that. We just traded for Bryce off from the Eagles. He is a very fast athletic defensive end. And then the way that we drafted, we have a very good chance to be a good team. We need the young guys to mature really fast and step up because if they don't and they get hit with that rookie wall at some point, it can be tough at some points, but I feel like

we brought most of our offense back and we should be able to score points because we basically went an entire season without Christian McCaffrey, you know, offensive MVP two years ago. And so now that he's back, pair him with myself, Kyle, use check, Joanne Jennings, IU, Ricky Pierce, all sure. Well, and it's still pretty good too. I heard, you know, I don't know, but he's still pretty good.. I heard you know, I don't know but he's still pretty good So I think we're gonna win some football games and it's gonna be pretty fun. Okay violence is coming

I I'm buying the 49ers is a bounce back team. I would I would I would buy that Especially too like when you get that extra month off It definitely makes you want to not ever experience that again and you would much rather be late into the playoffs and the Super Bowl Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay Yeah, I'll be looking for it. All right, George. You're the best. We'll see you in a couple weeks in Tahoe Oh my gosh, I'm gonna tackle you both. I cannot wait. I'm not looking for no, that's I would like to Know you asked me like hey if you hit anybody, I'm gonna hit you guys I'll be ready. You better stop him. I'll be ready. Better stop him. Is Hank coming? Hank

will be there. Oh, thank you. So fuck. It's basically like who's going to get hit first because the other two can run away. So now they're just going to chest bump max. Okay. So I'm going to chest bump him and then maybe tabletop him later that night. Okay. Perfect. Sounds fun. Maybe we'll pants him. Ooh, what's the thing with people? Just they grab like the back pocket is tear the jeans all the way down. Yeah. Yeah. We used to do that. Yeah. I want to do that to Hank after I tackle it. Maybe a wedgie. Yeah. I'll see if I'll ask Christian what, what he wants me to do to you, Hank. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The walls. Not, not, not yet. You're, you're, you're getting out of the wrong guy, but if I, if I could come, or if I can come to the studio at some point,

I'm just going to punch a hole in the drywall. Yeah. This one's for Christian. We would frame it. Hank actually did that one time. Yeah. With his foot. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Oh, thanks so much, George. Love you. Love you, George. Greg Kittle was brought to you by Apple. That's right. Apple. They say it's never too late for a comeback, even if it's a long shot from the home of Ted Lasso comes stick. A new Apple original series starring Owen Wilson, PMT

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Mount Rushmore of professional sports playoffs. Oh, you got four Well, no, you go MLS Well, no, you have four choices could be any oh, yeah, Mount Rushmore. Okay, so I'm gonna go I'm gonna go football one one. I'm gonna go basketball one two. I'm gonna go I'll go hockey one-3 I'll go cup of World Cup in there oh so yeah no baseball I would like to go World Cup for if that's okay yeah yeah that's not a bad pick I think I would have put I would have put Stanley Cup above NBA play I would have put Stanley Cup 2. Well, this is your Mount Rushmore. Yeah, that's fair. I would have gone NFL, Stanley Cup. I actually might go play off baseball 3. It's pretty good.

Play off baseball is like, cause it's the drama of like every at bat. Does March Madness count? Oh, March Madness. Yeah. Alright, March Madness is my 2. Actually, March Madness is my 1. March Madness is the best. March Madness is my 1, then NFL, then Stanley Cup two Actually, March man is my one March madness is the best man. This is my one then NFL then Stanley Cup Oh, did it say pro say pro it did say pro. Oh, I got it That would have yeah, cuz that would have been a big mistake cuz March madness if it was pro and college It would be March madness number one for sure

Now that downfield laterals have become a thing. Thank you PFT for sure. Now that downfield laterals have become a thing. Thank you. PFT. The NFL should award assists for anyone who successfully laterals a ball that and that the play ends in a touchdown. This would promote more laterals and specialist with those skills become valuable throughout the league. I like that. It's a good idea. I also think that you should get an additional five yards if you catch a pass where you're getting interfered like an and one I'm going I'm gonna go opposite on this I'm gonna say no I don't like that what's just a meaningless stat what it's I'm just thinking about it from gambling brain it's a meaningless thing that I'll throw into a parlay and lose yeah you definitely will yeah so I don't

need another thing that I can lose on yeah I'm in Ross st. Brown plus 150 to throw a lateral assist yeah yeah yeah it's just I I can just see every week I could just see us sitting here in like late October being like alright, what do we got for our be better on that? That'd be that would be to do it'd be like 900 You get a couple Dan Campbell games where he throws it. He like empties the bag and then you're like, oh he's good He's definitely gonna have one again. Oh shit. It goes to 30 to if we throw in Travis Kelsey assist. Yeah, and then we just lose. Yeah, no I'm pretty sure this person was just incepted from this show because I feel like you said this exact take

That each NBA team should get to adjust where their three-point line is to create home court advantage each season They can move it to on the left if they have a dominant left-handed dribbler Move it in everywhere if they want to focus on mid-range or create a team of bigs Or move it way back They have great shooters every game would be played differently based on where the three-point line is would be exciting to watch I think we said it with Kirk Goldsbury. Maybe but yes, this would be awesome different dimensions like in baseball Yeah, this would be so sick. It would also be like incredibly unfair, but it would be cool Yeah, but you do it for the NBA Cup

Yeah, but you also... Like, if you move it, the strategy would be so interesting. Because you could also... It doesn't have to be just you have good three-point shooters. Like, what if you have a dominant, like, big, moving the three-point line out like two feet. So it just gives you a little more space where guys can't recover. Yeah I would like to watch that. Maybe for a week. Adam Silver you won't fucking do it. Do it in the cup bitch. Do it. Yeah they changed the court anyway. And they reveal it like

right before the game. Like oh tonight the Warriors are going with a 34 footer. Steph is the only one shooting them. That'd be sick. Yeah. Hey little man. Big bellied cat a cup honkers and Italian pervert. I'm sick of people comparing Scotty to Tiger and saying he's on a tear known as seen before the PGA is weekend with the amount of players that live in the only time he plays competition is at majors. Tiger Woods with everyone scoring terrible at US Open on Sunday would have posted a score that would have made people sweat to match it. Also Scotty can't match Tiger's aura as he doesn't have a fuck island in a caddy that throws cameras into the pond. Thoughts? Okay there's a lot there. One is

you can't say Tiger's aura with the fuck stuff because he won a lot more before the fuck stuff than after he Tiger did have aura, but it was different or it was unbeatable or it wasn't like he's cool He fucks chicks. It was he just wins every tournament. He was doing the fuck stuff, but we know yeah in the moment That's not why tigers aura was what it was correct correct Too I don't think we've said Scotty. Maybe other people have is Doing something like we've never seen before what I don't think we've ever I think we've their stats There's definitely stats that have been brought up. We've also people do say that when he wins

It's like we've brought up. It's always no one's done this since tiger We brought up the other stat where it's like Scotty would have to do this for ten years right to get to tiger's numbers that's also just our dumb sports brains where if you've seen something incredible You basically spend the rest of your life being like man I want this next thing to be exactly like that incredible thing. Yeah, almost wishing it hoping it Yeah, because the alternative is we're never gonna like golf again because tiger was so good that he broke golf, right? But yeah, which I understand that you're not like I will I will grant you that there's nobody out there

That's playing that you watch them compete and you get that same feeling that you got with Tiger. Yes, I for Brooks obviously Yeah, did you guys see bro? But it's like it's like Michael Jordan like basically, you know Spawned basketball in Europe like now European players are really good like Tiger Spawned all these really good golfers. He didn't have to play against them though But they are all inspired by him and and so the the fields in general are way better. Yeah Yeah, but that's because of tiger just putting kind of same as MJ where it's like he wasn't do you have to play against that? Much European competition true cuz they all got inspired from the Olympics, but just to put it into perspective I mean we talked so much about Rory getting the career Grand Slam Tiger did that in one year

He literally did that in 2000 when he had he won the PGA US Open the open championship And then in 2001 won the first tournament in the Masters and that's insane. Mm-hmm went four straight So yeah, there's never gonna be another tiger. Maybe Charlie maybe definitely Charlie. Let's say definitely Charlie double tiger All right. I am gonna pardon your guys take this guy's take here because it's just dead wrong. Oh Biggest theory right now is the MLB it's in the MLB I believe the reason traded Devers and his contracts so they can make a play to trade for Paul skeens and pay him and lock Him up early They have all the young pieces and money now to do so and the pirates always trade away, trade away aces.

So that's copium. Yeah. Yeah. Which I, you have to have copium right now, which is there has to be a reason why we did the stupid thing. But if you were so following this guy's logic, wouldn't you, wouldn't you have, Devers for more like better prospects? Yeah. You would have traded Devers not for current starting pitching and

relieving pitching you would have traded Devers for like guys that could end up being awesome and then saying hey pirates look at all these guys that could end up being awesome. Yeah I think a lot of the criticism of the Devers trade is that you traded Devers you didn't really get that much in return for them at least what other teams have gotten for great sluggers. And you probably also did it because your owner is cheap and maybe your owner was just upset that he got blown off when he went to meet him. Wait, that was part of the story too?

Yeah. Oh, what was it? Didn't answer a text message? I think John Henry made a trip to have a face-to-face conversation with him. Like, hey, we need to get on the same page, let's be be a good teammate and Devers was not having it but that also might be John Henry leaking stuff to the press because he's afraid to get in teabagged I do love like just a story of a owner just getting his feelings hurt it happens just saying I'm making this rash

decision because my feelings got it happens a lot. Yeah, it's oh national sports podcast Yeah, do you see what Dan Quinn said about about Debo? No, so I saw him running the other day. I was reminded. He's one of the fastest players on the team Wow fastest with an s That hot seat commander. Yeah, what do you mean? Well, he's the fastest one of the fastest one of the fast Yeah, one of the fast one of the fastest and you and you he's there was an ass in what he said s that had an ass Not fast. It was fast. It is fast D. Bo you saying fattest or fast? I said with it the first time I said it. I said fastest with an s. Okay

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