Pardon My Take - Vince Carter + Mt Rushmore Of Stadium Foods

Episode Date: June 25, 2018

We've caught World Cup Fever and Messi fired his Coach. Don't count out the Germans and surprise surprise the Russians may be doping. (2:38-11:10) Mt Rushmore of food/beverage at a stadium. (11:11-19:45) Who's back of the week including cleaniness because Big Cat finally cleaned his pile, sort of. (19:46-29:52) Vince Carter joins the show to talk about his career in the NBA, dunking his balls on French guys, Vinsanity, and who is his GOAT (31:42-1:00:22). Segments include Talking Tennis (1:04:21-1:05:22), Spinzone for Blake Bortles (1:05:23-1:07:07), Protect the Shield (1:07:08-1:09:06), and an update on Mike Greenberg's dumb rules, someone actually tried PFT's crazy no catcher idea in a game. (1:09:07-1:11:27)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by SeekGeek, and we'll see you in the next episode. Today is Monday, June 25th, and I got a question for you, PFT. I do have World Cup fever. Well, that wasn't my question, but I also have World Cup fever. My question, you are a Lebron stan, a bronze sexual. You consider him the goat. Bronbro. But you also consider Ronaldo the goat, correct?

No. You're a messy guy. No, I'm not. I'm neither one of those guys. Okay. I'm a Scalaci guy. Okay. Someone who thinks Bron is the goat and Ronaldo is the goat, I got bad news for you because

Messi pulled the ultimate Lebron move and fired his coach mid-tournament. Do you see this? That's right. So he's figuring out the starting lineup for the last game, right? Yeah. This is why I love soccer, because I feel like rules in soccer, like they just don't play by the same rules as the rest of the world in terms of sports, and they- Right, you can't use your hands.

Yeah, you can't. Well, the goalie can. But yeah, you can. You just penalty kick. Yeah. Yeah. Ooh, or Thierry Henri. Mm-hmm.

Still sore subject in Ireland. Look at us. Fucking soccer boys. Yeah. What's up? What's up? What's up now, bitches? We know soccer.

Football. So Argentina, they literally just said they have- the report is they have broken their relationship with the coach. Okay. So the coach still has a job. He's still going to be on the sideline, but he gets to decide nothing, and they just mutinied the whole team. Uh-huh.

I respect that. It's awesome. I absolutely respect that. Yeah. You know, when you're playing soccer, you just yell at the ref, right? Well, no, you say, like, hey, get in there, pass, pass, pass. Make sure you pass some more. What I would do would just say, like, that's too direct.

Yeah. You have to go tiki taka. Or they go- Or they go- Or sometimes, like, halfway through, if they need a goal, they'll go- they'll- instead of running a 4-4-1, they'll run a 4-3-2. No, so yeah, what they'll do is- Or a 3-3-2.

They'll do a 4-3-2-1. 3-3-2-1-2. Yeah, 3-3-3. With a 1. At the end of the day, they just run around the field. And you're like, okay, you're still going to be a midfielder. And running is kind of- It's a lot of walking.

They do a lot of talking. A ton of walking. Soccer players are frauds. I don't think that it's that difficult to play soccer. But you have World Cup fever, and I do, too. I love it. I'm really, really enjoying it, except for the Germany-Swedan game. Yeah.

I got caught up on that. I couldn't watch it live, unfortunately. But my guys, Sweden, looked like they had the Germans backs against the wall. But as they say, never count out the Germans, which I don't think they really say that. No one says that. Like, that's actually a bad thing. Yeah, it's actually the opposite. Right.

Like, hey, just because Germany starts out taking a lot of land, they're going to lose eventually. They're going to overextend themselves. No, they should never count out the Germans. If you take away their entire air force and all their military, probably you still shouldn't count them out. Right. Well, that's a good point.

But yeah, I was really thinking that Sweden was at least going to get the statement draw. The result. The win over the Germans. The way result. By the way, Swedish uniforms, insanely awesome on Saturday at the Blues. I've never seen a more blue uniform in my life. Real nice. The blue shirt out of France is what they did.

Yes, they did. They stole the color blue from France. Sweden played. I watched some of the highlights. It looked like they played a very boring foosball. Yeah. They were employing the Swiss technique of basically just kick the ball out of bounds as far as it can go.

Which is effective at times. And walk to every throw in, walk to every corner kick. Just really milk the clock. That's the other thing. The other part of soccer, which the coach probably does is, hey, guys, just make sure you go really, really slow at all times if we're trying to draw this team. Yeah. The way that it shook out, though, Sweden's still alive, right?

Germany is very much alive. Mexico could somehow. They looked like one of the best teams in the World Cup, but they might not even make it to the second round. Correct. They have to beat Sweden. We also had England. England finally has soccer fever.

They won 6-1. You want to talk about a hilarious coach. The English coach was his name, like Gareth Stanfield. Sure. He's the most British dude that you'll ever see. Like he wears a three-piece suit on the sidelines. Occasionally, he'll take the coat off and he'll just wear the vest and the dress shirt. He's feeling a little bit informal, but he's the most dapper-looking British dude you've

ever seen in your life. He's like, I'll encourage more fair play from my team. Well, England had my favorite guy to pick on, Harry Kane, who he is like Ronaldo on steroids in the case in the fact that he just only scores from like two feet out. Well, he totally changed the narrative this weekend by scoring two penalty shots and a ball that bounced off his ass. It was actually like it was a hockey deflection. He didn't even know it was hitting him.

So he had a hat trick. The easiest hat trick ever, he basically didn't even have to. He just showed up and I could have gotten that hat trick. You could have. I actually could have. Well, you probably would have scored two penalty shots. Your ass is like twice as big as his, so you probably would have scored another goal. So Harry Kane still a bust in my mind and then the other big story, which isn't really

a big story. Well, real quick before you jump off that, England and Belgium, their game that they have coming up is going to be hilarious because they've both already qualified for the second round and neither team wants the top seed. Right. And the Kakos hurt. So they're not going to play him. So it's going to be a pass, pass, pass, pass, pass.

And you know what the tiebreaker is? If they tie and the goal differential is the same. What? Football. Fair play points. Nice. So FIFA awards fair play points to teams. So that's what the team that their fans the last time, the longest time it's been since

they've like thrown a banana on the field. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. That's who gets the advantage. I think Belgium would qualify based on that. But I guess you start with like 15 fair play points per match. This is the most soccer thing ever.

And then they take away points. So you get a participation trophy and they slowly cut off parts of the participation trophy. If you get a red card, a yellow card, a straight or two yellows and a red, it just pays off all this. Do you know who's actually doing okay in the fair play points is Mexico because you see their fans credit to them for not doing homophobic chance this last game. They're not doing the putot.

No. Big time credit. Big time credit for not being homophobic. That's one of my favorite internet sports debates is white dudes arguing over what puto means because they think you should be allowed to say it and it's not homophobic. So the other story, well, I had two other things going off of the fair play. There's one thing I noticed about soccer announcers when they don't really have anything to say about like if a guy, because basically, you know, there's two goals a game, three goals

a game. So there's only a couple goal scores. So if a midfielder comes out and like he didn't have any goals, he didn't really do anything. They say he had a classy game. Yes. Pure class. Pure class all game long. Pure class.

So like he just jogged around. It's like how Chris Collins where it says pros, pros. Yes. About Rex Brookhead like nine times. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So the last story I want to touch on, which isn't really a shocker, but Russia's doping

and FIFA doesn't care. Do you really think that they're doping? There's a report that came out. I think it's a sleeping giant situation where Russia has just, they just remember that they're really good at soccer. There's a report that came out that basically the entire team doped in 2014, the entire team's doping now and FIFA has actually like gotten the documents and been like, oh, we'll just, we'll just let this one slide.

Yeah. I mean, if you were FIFA and you had the goods on like a state sponsored doping program by Vladimir Putin while you're in his country, what are you going to do? You're going to be a vigilante? Yeah. No, absolutely not. But if FIFA has such a bad reputation that like they actually can do this and what can anyone say?

Like, oh man, I expected FIFA to really, you know, crack down on this. No, you didn't. Listen, if FIFA hasn't cut down on like murdering slave laborers and Qatar or Qatar, I'm sorry, they rebranded. Qatar. Qatar. It's a much more friendly country now. If they haven't like cracked down on actual murder and like kidnapping that's going on

over there, I think they're going to look, they're going to turn a blind eye if a couple of Russian midfielders are like shooting HGH into their butts. Yeah. They're going to do bigger things to worry about. Like how are we going to have a World Cup in Qatar, like how big of an air conditioner do we have to build? Yeah. How many BTUs are we talking about?

There's going to be just a huge hole in the ozone layer right above Qatar after 2000. God, the Middle East is going to get really hot. Yeah. Oof. All right. So let's do our Mount Rushmore. Okay. So it is Mount Rushmore season.

So we're going to do our Mount Rushmore of stadium food and beverages. Did you see what the Blue Jays did this weekend? No. Their new dish that they put out? Get a load of this. It's a hot dog with a candy, not candy corn, cotton candy bun, and nerd toppings on it. And Revell Seaman. Yes.

Basically, well, that's what nerd toppings is, it's just Revell's little sperm swimming around on there. When he gets one of those new, seriously, one of the all time fuck ups by us. And this long time award-winning listeners will know was we started a fake account for the Montana Black Bears. We were going to say they were an independent hockey team, and we were going to tweet real stuff from them for a year. And then after a year, send Revell a picture of a piece of dog shit with garnish on it

and be like, look at our new fudge brownie that we're releasing to all the fans. But I fucked up and I did M.O. Black Bears, Missouri Black Bears, not Montana. So we just abandoned it. We abandoned it. Like all of our projects. That was in like the second week of part of my day. It was a good idea. It was a great idea.

It was going to be like Sriracha infused. Yeah, with like Fritos. It's a Frito pie slash. Revell is like four years behind the internet, so there's no chance he'd be able to resist retweeting like a bacon Sriracha epic fudge hot dog. So if someone else wants to do the legwork for us, go ahead and just punk Revell like that. But we had the idea.

So just credit us afterwards. Great idea. But really, like most of our, half of our ideas, we have great ideas and then just, yeah, poor executions or just non-existent. We're just going to watch Playmakers sometime. Great. PFT, why don't you start Bubba's here. Hank is on his 25th vacation of the year.

So he's not going to listen to us. He's chilling out in the sun. So yeah, Hank, if you're listening to this, the password is icicle. So if you tweet icicle at me before 12 a.m. Just out. Just tweet it out. Yeah, just tweet it out into the ether before noon tomorrow. Then we'll know that you're doing your job.

No one tell him. All right. So stadium food and beverages. We're going to go snake draft? Oh yeah. Oh, we're snaking it. All right. Then you, then Bubba.

Bubba twice. Then back. Okay. We'll write off the bat. Got to go hot dog. Yeah. I mean, there's some other ones on my Mount Rushmore that I enjoy more than a hot dog, but I do love like daytime hot dogs, a little bit of mustard on there, a lot of ketchup

as you love the ketchup. Nope. Nope. No, ketchup's great on a hot dog. Gross. Embrace the bait, Bubba. What do you think? Ketchup or no?

Yeah. Of course. All right. The brother of the hot dog, the better hot, the alpha of the hot dog, the sausage. And one thing you left out on the hot dog, the hipster hot dog, you can't get a hot dog or a sausage in a stadium without doing the grilled onions. Just don't even fall. I'll walk to the ends of earth.

Like there'll be one stand that has grilled on. You got to get to that stand. You don't, if you don't do that, you are, you're just a rookie. Yeah. And the smell of grilled onions is right up there with anything else. Oh, peppers too. Sausage peppers, onions. Yes.

Okay. Bubba. I'm going to go with the chicken fingers when it comes in like the bucket with the cup. Yeah. Okay. That's a big time Hank move on your part. Yeah. Yeah.

It is like two, two strips of chicken and 7,000 fries. Yeah. I'm like a, I'm still a child though. Like when I go out to dinner, I still get chicken fingers and fries. Every time. Tindies, grilled cheese, sandwich. And then. That's not going out to dinner.

Sometimes. Wow. We pay too much. All by yourself? Yeah. Yeah. And my number two is cracker jacks. Okay.

That's kind of lame. What are you eating? I don't think anyone's, you've never actually eaten cracker jacks, have you? Yeah. They're good. Cracker jacks are the coleslaw of candy. They're good for like a handful. Yeah.

And nobody really likes it. You just want to, it's more about the visual of walking around with a thing of cracker jack. Kettle corn really like dunked on cracker jack. Yes. Whatever. Back in the 10 years ago and just killed it. Yes.

It's way better. Killed it. All right. I'm going to go with, oh man this is tough, I don't know what's going to get taken. You know what? I'm going to go with the ice cream of the future. Dipping dots? Dipping dots.

That's more of amusement park. Nah, you can still get it because you know it's become one of those things where it was the ice cream of the future, then it nothing changed about the ice cream industry. Now when you see dipping dots you got to get it to feel like you're living in the future even though it's the past. I would say that, it's time travel. I would say that it's more common to buy dipping dots because it's like a throwback. Yeah.

To like to tell it. So it's become, throwback is back to the future. It's basically the LeBron James Instagram post of ice cream. Yeah. So there's a story behind it. There is. You're not just getting ice cream, you're getting a story. Okay.

All right. I knew that you were going to take ice cream by the way. Well yeah. Big mistake. Duh. All right. So I'm about to run up to score on you right now. Okay.

Ready? All right. For my second I'm going to take domestic beer. A nice big cold domestic beer and a plastic clear cup. And then the next one I've got nachos. Love the stadium nachos with that like fake ass yellow neon cheese that they put in there. Maybe a little bit of salsa, but really it's about that cheese. Okay.

All right. So you went beer. I'm going to go with the off, I don't know if we can do, it has to be specific, but doing either like a mixed drink or the, regularly they have my ties that have like 7,000 grams of sugar. Yeah. So anything where you're just like, you know what? I'm going to kick it up a notch.

And you go the double, you go double, double on the drink. So you kind of cheat there. You can get four drinks instead of two. Yeah. It's a soda combined. Yeah. And you get, you get nice and buzz there from that. So I'll go mixed drink slash, you know, my type.

Go to the bar and don't get it. You've got a very exotic taste in stadium food. Well, I would have done beer, but you took it. Yeah. Yeah. So I obviously go beer first. That was a, I snatched your wig. Yeah, you did.

You got it. I'm going to do the, the Dell's frozen lemonade. Okay. Those are pretty good. Okay. I don't know what else to say. Okay. I guess I'll do peanuts.

Yeah. That's a good one. Peanuts are good. Peanuts are classic. I always get peanuts. The best is just any food that you can like eat and then throw away, like throw away the shell of it and you don't give a shit. Yeah.

The, the other good part about peanuts is you get peanuts when you're trying to get really drunk and you're like, well, I got to eat something. I'll just eat peanuts and 10 beers. That will, that will definitely hold me over. Yeah. The salt will absorb some of the alcohol. So it'll be fine. Do you embrace debate?

I sometimes go full, just eat the whole shell. She ate the whole fucking thing. I do. It's like probably one every four peanuts. One out of every four? Yeah. I get kind of lazy. I just like, I'll crack them, crack them, crack them, and then I'll just munch the whole

damn thing. Listen, I do that occasionally with like bazooka joe bubblegum. No. I just eat the whole wrapper. I go, oh, oh, I rod dog the fuck out of my peanuts. I do that sometimes with sunflower seeds. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Sunflower seeds. I'll just chew all of them. Yeah. I probably eat half of my sunflower seeds. Yeah. For sure. All right. My last one, I, I'll probably, I'll probably get a red flag on this one thrown.

But it is, I use all my money on it, so I'm just going to say the 50-50. Like that's, I mean, instead of food and beverage, a lot of times I'm like, well, I could get a sausage or I could get another $20 on the 50-50. And then that could buy like 10 more sausages. That could buy food for the entire world if I ever want. And then you do the we eatin' thing when you win. So it is a food. Lifetime, I think I'm down like, oh, the couple thousand.

By the way, you owe me $250 for the 50-50. 100. 100. Hank owes you 100. I owe you 100. Okay. Yeah. So I'll be taking that cash out.

All right. My last one. All right. I'm, I'm struggling. I'm going to go with the giant pretzel. Oh. Love the giant pretzel. That's good.

You can dip it in all sorts. That's good. Listen, I, I'm just saying right now, I shit pumped you guys on this, Matt Roycemore. Well, this is probably my best performance. Yeah. It was pretty well done. I mean, you can't, now you're just paying, now you're just, uh, you know, pandering until you're going to get burner accounts too.

No. You're just rigging the election here. No, these aren't burner accounts. I'm right. Nachos is a great choice. Um, what do we miss? Popcorn remist. Oh yeah.

A big tub of popcorn and you can do the same thing as peanuts. You just eat it and just spill everywhere. Just mash it in your mouth. It's a mess. Someone cleans it up, right? It's a beautiful mess. Yeah. Yeah.

Someone, uh, I had giant commemorative soda cups. Mm hmm. And then you bonus points. If you're the dude that goes around the outfield and just collects like 20 of them and has a big stack. Yes. And he's like, I need, I need all these beer cups. Yes.

It's just stacking regular beer cups and being like, look how much I drank. Yeah. It's a great move. Uh, anything in a helmet too. Uh huh. So nachos in a helmet, ice cream in a helmet, anything they put in a helmet, it's a little extra, you know, it's nice. Mm hmm.

What else do you have, Liam? You took all nine. Yeah. Does anyone ever order a hamburger at a game? No. No. No. It's psychos.

I was like kind of thinking that. It's like who would do that? Uh, you guys ever party with boardwalk fries? Mm hmm. What are those? They're like really vinegary fries. Okay. They're great.

You don't have to stand alone. You don't need to get your chicken tendies to make you feel better about getting it. Okay. Yeah. I can get down with that. Maybe some curly fries. Yeah. Curly fries are good too.

Yeah. Okay. I'm hungry. Yeah. I'm very hungry. Um, all right. That's our Mount Rushmore. No, we're seamless in the middle of the show.

What we missed, uh, tweet us at Pardon My Take. We'll tweet out the Mount Rushmore and then we'll have a vote. Uh, Hank. This is a loss for Hank in the official standings. Mm hmm. It's vacated. Yeah. It's a vacated loss.

So he actually can't finish. This is his last because he missed the Mount Rushmore. Mm hmm. Sucks for him. Yeah. Sucks for him. Maybe next year. All right.

Let's do who's back. Bubba, why don't you start us off? Who's back? Who's back this week is staying mellow. Big time. Oh, yeah. So mellow opted into his contract with OKC. He's getting 28 million last year.

Demanding to start. Yeah. Demanding to start. He had career lows in everything. But even better though. And career lows in every school category. He did. And like everything.

Yeah, in every set. Everything. Well, maybe not turnovers. About personal fouls. Yeah. He probably did OK on that. Yeah, probably. Playoff losses.

But even better on Instagram. Do you follow him? No. Yes. Wait. Is it hoodie mellow season? No. Not yet.

It's wine season for sure. Yeah. He's like, I think he's had like Paris Fashion Week or whatever and he's just been putting up the cockiest captions like, you mad, huh? Or like, he had one. I kind of like this for mellow. He had one mood. All critics conduct sick.

Yeah. Oh, I get it. Yeah. You get it? Yeah. Yeah. We don't say that anymore. I had a stat too.

Out of 540 players that logged at least one minute in the NBA last season. His wins above replacement. He was 537. Jesus Christ. See, now the fact that he's drawing people, it happened. It happened. It was like the last two years. But here's what's going to happen to mellow, which kind of sucks because mellow, I mean,

all time score, like one of the guys who like, all right, go ahead and get your 30 easily. He's definitely going to play for a couple more years and everyone's going to like look back and be like, mellow sucked. Like they will not remember that mellow was very, very good. He was really good for a while. I think what happened to him this year was what happens to everybody when they leave New York. They just go to like a smaller market.

And I'm not talking about NBA. I'm just saying like normal people with normal jobs. They go to a smaller market and they see that like all the beer prices are so low compared to what they paid in New York. Yeah. And so they just buy a shitload more beer and they started drinking more. Yeah. I think mellow just started drinking a lot more beer.

I can't believe you asked if it was hoodie season. Hoodie season starts like, oh, maybe four days out of spring of preseason basketball. That's when he starts to get back in shape. Maybe they should sell the entire Carmelo Anthony out of the hoodie. This is prime. Yeah. This is prime, like drinking, telling all the haters to duck, duck sick, duck my sick, duck, duck sick, locker room talk.

Yeah. Wow. Have you guys heard the theory like why he has so much staying power is just because he has the coolest basketball name of all time. Well, that definitely stands. I was going to say because he's six foot seven. Like Jeremy Shockey. Yeah.

Like if his name was like John Brown, he would have been like benched years ago. Yeah. I would not be getting max contrast. Yeah. But Carmelo Anthony is like the coolest basketball name ever. Absolutely. Stay with the seven. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. That's pretty good. Jeter duck, duck our sick Jeter. Also, he's got cool hair. He's got cool basketball here. Yeah. He will.

He used to. He had the corn. Yeah. Denver. Yeah. So that's right. He's not going cornrows anymore. He used to bring back the cornrows.

Yeah. Get real mellow. All right. Who you got? PFT. I've got. Well, first is an old friend of the show. You know him.

I know him. Great guy. Michael Rappaport. You see those people on the plane? Yeah. So Michael Rappaport was flying on an airplane. And I guess he's not on a no fly list. So I misreported that a long time ago.

And somebody was trying to open up the emergency exit to like, I don't know, jump out or just he was panicking or whatever. Because Michael Rappaport was on the plane. He was probably sitting right next to Michael Rappaport. He's probably clearing his throat and doing that sneeze thing he does. Yeah. I got to get the fuck out of here. Dude, Rappaport on a plane.

Yeah. Holy shit. That would be the worst. Samuel L. Jackson. Get these Rappaport's off my damn plane. He sneezes on a plane. Yeah. So I guess he stopped the dude from opening up the emergency exit.

What a hero. And saved the entire flight. So now. Great. We've always been big fans of his. Ha ha. Hey, Sully. Hey, Michael.

We named a drink after you. It's just, it's a door and behind the door is a bunch of sky vodka and nobody lets you get in there. You sick fuck you. You sick fuck. Oh, man. Wait a sec. You know what?

Good job. He saved lives. He saved lives. So good for him. That makes up for, well, each cat that he kills actually counts as nine murders. So he's almost broken even. My other who's back of the week is Puking. Oh.

Puking's back. Do you see the dude from Tunisia pull the trigger? Yep. Before the, I think it was before the second half started. It was, it was bad ass, man. Puking water looks cool as hell. Yeah, it does. And then I puked this weekend too.

Oh. Nice. Good job. Thanks. A little too much to drink? Yeah. Okay. That's okay.

Happens to the best of us. Happens to Tunisia. The best soccer players in Tunisia. Exactly. I'm, I'm an athlete. Yeah. I just drink Jameson instead of running around on soccer. Is that it?

You got any more? Yeah, I can break out a couple more. Okay. Give me one more. You want to do some deep cuts? Give me one more. Give me one more. Yeah.

John Carlson, the capture back. Oh, I didn't know. All right. Yep. We're done. Yep. It's like a dollar. I'm going to defer my cap knowledge to someone.

I believe it did. Who needs it. Current team is in salary cap hell. Yes. It did go up. Okay. So it went up. So we're bringing back Carlson, which means minimum seven more Stanley Cup titles.

With no coach. Well, you guys are like Argentina? Well, we won three already. Yeah. So we can win seven over the course of next year. There you go. No coach. We don't need a coach.

Yeah. All right. My who's back. I got two. The first is objectification of men. So World Cup. Big time. That guy's hot.

He's a man. I'm a little offended. So there was like an Iceland guy who went super viral because he's the hottest piece of ass you ever seen. And it's just soccer bodies. I wish I had a soccer body. It's like that's the I know you remember the dad bod thing that women pretended to like, oh yeah, we love guys who are like kind of fat and don't care.

So nice of them. So nice of them. But really, when it comes down to it, if you ask a woman, I guarantee you they go soccer bod over any other bot. I bet you I could have a soccer bot. I don't think so. They have. No, I could.

I'm never going to. They all have the fucking dick muscles. Oh yeah, I got the dick muscles. Yeah, they point right to the dick. Just fat though. Like if you if you eat enough of the wrong type of food, you don't get the love handles and you just get a fake dick muscle. And they all have good hair and they have tats cool tattoos.

Fucking soccer guys. Also just people in Iceland like living in Iceland is a cheat code for life. Yeah. You just hang out occasionally like a majestic puff and drops a delicious herring into your hands. Yeah. It's just like an easy green. Easy to live.

Yeah. Yeah. Except the volcano. Except you're fancy and you go glove side. Yeah. And also the entire economy went down to the toilet. But whatever. Yeah.

You have a volcano that prevents any planes from flying into your country. But everything else is great besides that. Also the winters where it's like dark for 23 hours a day. That's okay. Yeah. Personality season. More sex. Personality season on steroids.

But it doesn't affect. It's actually bad for them. Yeah. Because their best assets are their looks. Yeah. All right. I'm going to clean this. So I clean my pile.

If you have ever seen my pile at the office. It got a little out of hand. Mm-hmm. A lot out of hand. It was about a two-year pile thing. Now, when I say I clean it, I literally just took, I bought a bunch of bins and stuffed everything in each bin with no, not even actually looking at it. So I just made my pile into a bin pile.

We're bin guys now. Mm-hmm. You can't get mad at someone for having organized mess. Well, I also want to point out that it wasn't really you that did all this. Yeah. It was an intern. Yeah. But I, I mean, I'm the guy behind the guy.

I was the one. You're managing. I was the foreman. If he got hurt on the job, I would have had to call the ambulance. Right. You would have done CPR. Right. You would have had to be the one that gets the people to do CPR.

He asked me before he did it, he was like, are there going to be any like rodents or anything in there? I was like, no. Listen, there's, there's some non-perishable foods back there. True. True. There's some fortune cookies. There was a bag.

There's some candy bars. There was a bag of caramel bugles. Mm-hmm. And then for about two years, there was also a squished up thing of gushers, big bag of gushers. I don't know how long that had been there. So yeah, there was some things that there was like 500 ping pong balls. Right.

Gushers last forever. I don't know what we're going to do with that. Probably sleeping with vaginas. Yeah. Definitely using. Well, I think we're going to do like a flashlight thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. Right. Yeah. The ping pong balls. But it basically was just going back. We're, we're still going to catalog it. So we actually, like when I say I stuffed everything into bins, I didn't even look at what I was looking like, what was in the pile.

I just stuffed it into bins. So eventually we're going to take everything out and go through it one by one. And then I don't know what. I was thinking that we do storage wars with it. Yeah. So we just, we auction it off. You get like 10 seconds to look at the top of it. We open it up like it's the Ark of the Covenant and if you can survive the 10 seconds, then

you get to bid on it. Yeah. And then you end up with like, I don't know, 10 t-shirts for unaffiliated lacrosse teams. Right. Like 10 boxes that aren't opened that we still haven't opened. We're like, yeah, let's just put that back over there. Yeah. I remember I brought, I bought a gun.

Yeah. The gun might be in the pile. The gun would be in the pile. I totally forgot I owned a handgun. We should probably find that. Does that mean I'm in the, in RA? We should find that. Yeah.

We should try that. I don't think you're. No. I think you gave away the gun. I gave, somebody took the gun. Yeah. The gun isn't in New York city. Let's just say that.

No, it's not in New York. We think. We don't know where the gun is. There was never bullets in the gun either. Right. I never, I never like registered it or, you know, never like connected it to any apps or anything. Yeah.

So it can't be traced to me. Right. Yeah. Guns use apps. Right. Yeah. We scraped off the serial number. We can't admit to that.

We threw it in a, threw it in a thing of pain. Some fellas. We're good. It's not like when Tony killed Christopher with his bare hands. Yeah. That is the true weapon. That is the true. Yeah.

The pin is actually mightier than a gun. True. All right. Let's get to our interview. Really awesome guy. Really cool to talk to someone who's been in the league forever. And we thought, we got through everything, talked about the goat, talked about how he stays young, dunking, playing with kids who were born after he started his MBA career.

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It is Vince Carter. We are here with Verizon Up. We're going to learn how to dunk today. You taught Darren Revelle how to dunk. What's Verizon Up doing before we? Yeah. Whoo. He's terrible.

Yeah. He didn't even know what to expect. I played him one-on-one. That's never good. Yeah. Well, you don't know what to expect yourself. But we figured it out. It's all muscle memory and visualization.

I think that's the biggest thing. Also jumping. Yeah. That's probably the most important, but that's kind of what Verizon brought me in today to kind of reward their members on the art of dunking, which is something I've done and I utilize still here and there now, more so in my 20s and 30s. But I think it's a great opportunity. I think it's a cool concept and idea that Verizon Up has put together.

And some guys actually had some talent in dunking. For me, when they bring me in to do this, it was kind of like, I don't know what they expected from me, but when you talk about dunking, I like to break it down. And I think it really helped them out. I mean, I don't know if this is funny when I say this. I don't know if this is going to help prepare them for a dunk contest in the future for them. You never know.

But at the same time, there's always that opportunity, there's always that opportunity with your buddies when your gambling say, hey, I bet you can't do this dunk. Now you can kind of take the tools to kind of prepare them. Vince Carter topping, huh? Yeah. They don't have to do that. Vince Carter, maybe a better gambler. Yeah.

Thank you for your service. I'll give you a few more bucks and, you know, for some whatever. Yeah. So you're doing this in partnership with Verizon. What's the price on the can you hear me now, guys' head? Like, you want me to kill that guy for you? Sprint? He's in Sprint now.

I'm ready. We'll bleep out the S-word. Yeah. He's in Sprint. I'll kill him. I'm pretty sure it's a nice dollar. Yeah. Yeah.

So say a word. So I wanted to, we mentioned dunking. I want to start there. You are one of seven players, all-time NBA, who's played 20-plus seasons. It is seven. So I was right. Seven guys. So the fact that you've had, you know, as long a career as you have, is it shock you

at all, like, looking back and being like, man, I'm still playing and I'm still, you know, putting up numbers? Does it shock me? I think at some point it's like, man, I'm still here. And then when you look at the list of people, there's some of the great names of the game's history. And it feels like that Siren's right in my right hand. Did Darren Revelle pull the car alarm on his way out of here?

I'm just making sure. Siren's definitely there. Yeah. But, I mean, like, you know, John Stockton and Colby and Kevin Williston, who was a former teammate of mine. I mean, like some of these guys I've actually played against. Yeah. We could connect you with, like, just about all of them.

Connect you with guys who were, you know, shooting into a peach basket. Yeah, almost. Yeah. You played with Del Curry, right? I did. Yeah. So was Steph hanging out at the time? I used to play him one-on-one.

That's wild. Yeah. I used to play games back when he was in Toronto. What was he like as, like, a, you know, a seven to eight-year-old? Itching to play. He was, you know, so, I mean, it was kind of, it was kind of routine for us. So I do my pregame ritual and workout and shooting. And after that, it was kind of like, he's like, yeah, you ready?

You ready? I was like, we played one-on-one. And they could, both of them, he and Seth could always shoot. And you can see always practicing, and it's like that kid who loves to play sports. He walks around, always working on his jump shot, pretending to dribble like they were that, both of them, where that kind of, those kind of kids, because they're around the game so darn much. And Jason Kidd's son, TJ, was the same way.

I mean, he didn't play basketball, but he's now like a coach and he has an unbelievable basketball mind. If you sit there and talk with him at that age, it's amazing what they knew because of what they would see and hear every day. Yeah. I mean, the craziest part to me is, you know, you came in the lead, what, 1999? Yeah. Yeah.

So the way the NBA has changed since then, have you, like, have you noticed it like a stark contrast, or is it because you've been involved with it every single year, it just slowly evolved? Yes, I definitely noticed it, but it's kind of like, for me, it's just an adjustment period, because, I mean, obviously you have to adjust to the way the league is then. But I mean, when I said, I just had this conversation with one of the participants earlier about that, and I was just saying, it's just a totally different game, and, you know, they wanted to compare, you know, obviously the conversation is comparing the Bulls to the

Golden State Warriors, and it's like, it's just a different time, it's a different game. And I think for, and I just put this out for people, it's like, okay, can you put each team in their prime era? Yeah. And, you know, will they still be successful? Mm-hmm. They still have the success that, you know, they had in their time, and the Golden State having the time, and I think that's how people can decipher it, other than that.

For me, playing, it's just a different game. Coach, do you notice it just like as simply as a coach tells you to shoot more threes? Yeah, I mean, that's what it is, I mean, no, it's not even telling the shooting guards or the small forwards, you're telling your center, hey, Rod, I need to shoot more threes now. Right. Like, you know, it's just different to here, but it's kind of like, that's the lingo now.

Yeah, so it's not, it's not, it's not weird to me anymore. I mean, at first it's like, you're, you'll look in the top three, when I played in Memphis, Mark, the soul was in the top five three point shooting with Steph Clay, you know, some of the best three point shooters in that year, and it's like two shooting guards and point guard in the freaking center. Right. You know, and that's just what it is. And I remember Coach Fisdale, who has a great basketball mind, it's like, I'm gonna need

to shoot threes. And what it does is, you know, it just, because the game is faster paces, like they want to play fast now. We want to play fast. Opening the floor by your center shooting threes helps that. Yeah. You don't have, you know, the shacks of the world posting up. And also just like, basically we got a couple of nerds who were like, hey, three points

are more than two points. Yeah. I don't do that math. Yeah. That's a crazy thing. It's crazy people didn't kind of pick it up earlier. So what does that say about the nerds back in the day there? Right.

It's a different game because I look at the game is when I first started in league, it was half court, grinded out physical post up and some threes. It's the opposite now. You had like one speed point shooter back. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Well, you had the other three points.

You didn't play much or, and it's set for situations. It was like, you know, he's used the situational guys, what they called them. And then now it's the other way around. It's like, run, run, run, space, pace, like you say, and then, you know, every now and then you're post up and it's not the center that's posting up. Right. Right. It's usually, you know, small forwards or whatnot.

Yeah. So. So you played in both areas. I did. Who's the goat? MJ or Kobe? I mean. Oh, wow.

Yeah. You didn't see that coming. He just gave you the head. He sure did. He just shook it up. Boom. I mean. Respect Kobe's five.

Yeah. Enjoy the five rings. You also play with. So respect. Wait, I want to hear. In day six. Yeah. I mean, it was a tweet that Kobe had a couple of weeks ago where when then the MJ LeBron

thing was getting like to a fevered pitch, he tweeted out, like, just enjoy greatness. You respect MJ's six, enjoy LeBron's greatness and like respect my five, just inserting himself into the goat conversation. It was a savvy move by him. You need to do that. Yeah. You need to tweet out, be like, and respect my dunk. I can't, man.

You know, championship. I'll. Just throw it in there. I just toss it in there. I leave it to those to have the argument. I think it just, it just makes a great argument because one thing I did see that clip and one thing he did say is like the, you can't put them all together. Right.

It's all hearsay and it's all like speculation. But you played, you played against all three, all three, so you, you are the, you are the authority on it. We need an answer. I mean, oh, you need an answer. Yeah. I need an answer. I mean, I still have to give it to MJ.

Okay. Yeah. That's the right answer, by the way. That's the closest Colby said. I mean, you gave him your, you're all stars. Okay. I'm going to say this real quick and there's no disrespect, you know, and I don't like this.

I don't know if people find it disrespectful, but it's hard for me playing the game right now to give a guy that crown because I'm still in the game. Right. And he said, I have to play this freaking game. Right. So he's like, oh yeah. You said, I'm going to go. No, I did.

Exactly. You don't want it. Yeah. I'm not doing that. I cannot do that. Exactly. Yeah. Oh man.

He's a good dude. Is there, is there an element though where you're like, you're like, why doesn't that mean that? I'll debate that with you. I'll debate that with you. He's a good dude. Yeah. Is there, is there anything about LeBron where you're like, why doesn't he compete in the

Slam Dunk Contest after he said he was going to do it year after year? I don't know why guys. I mean, it's just like I said, things are different now, you know, it's just, it's just what it was back then. You know, the whole mentality, the whole mentality of guys are different and approach to the games and what they want to accomplish or how they want to accomplish it. I think we all want to accomplish the same thing. We want to do championships and, you know, and back then we wanted to do it by any means

necessary with our team. Right. My own team. Right. And it's just, it's just different. So I can't knock the hustle. I really can't. And, you know, it's not like any of those, what we consider what we call them, super

teams. Yeah. They didn't do anything illegal. Right. It's just. Exactly. We just see it as not fair. Right.

And, you know, that's, that's fine. Yeah. Even better. Yeah. We see it unethical. Right. And I think, you know, we, it is what it is. The only thing I just hope that doesn't happen is, happen is the league gets, becomes

watered down because so many, I guess I could say so many teams are trying to have, create a super team where you have six teams of the 30. Okay. Let's say 10 teams of the 30 having all the best players. And then what does that do with the rest of the league tanking and then, but that just hurts the NBA in the day. So that's the only thing I don't, I don't, I hope does not happen. But I mean, if you're able to do it within the rules, I mean, you can't, you can't hurt

or you can't knock a whole, you can't, you can't knock a organization for, you know, having their nerds. Yeah. Right. And the money guys knowing what's, what, what's what and what they can do and how they can do it. Yeah. You know, going to state one thing I'll say, they, they created that team throughout

the draft. Right. It's not like they took a guy from. They won a championship without Kevin Durant. Absolutely. And now they added him through free agency, which they had the means to make it happen. It's just like, you're like, all right, man, just Kevin Durant, who's an MVP, right? But you know, at the same time, their goal is individually and, and as an organization

is to win championships, you know, like Boston, I guess we can look at the Boston teams. When they were winning, say they were, they were cheating, probably we're all the guys. I don't know. Yeah. They dominated different areas. Different areas. Yeah. Because I'm sure everybody.

Well, I know that I'm sure, you know, the Jordan era, like, all right, let's come on there. Right. We can't, we have to separate Mike and Pip or something, right, or get them like more bench guys. I don't know. You know, it's just the same thing. So it's the conversation that you're going to hear.

I think it's every decade or so because of the super team of that, or yeah, I guess super team of that, of that era. The more I think about it, you're like a time traveler for the NBA. Yeah. Like, do you ever, are you on Twitter now? I am. Okay. Do you ever think about what it would have been like if you were on Twitter when you

first came in the league? A while ago. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not, I'm there. I'm not super active, but I can, I cannot imagine. I'll leave it there. I cannot imagine.

Okay. Cannot imagine. Yeah. Well, the other thing is you have one of like, I would say top 10 gifts on all Twitter. The it's over. It's over. Yeah. After the dunk contest.

I see it. I see it. I use it all the time. Yeah. So like you live on in that. Yeah. For sure. Like I can't imagine like, you know, when I first started doing the, I guess it's called

crank it up. I don't know. I'd never gave that name. I like how you still do it as like almost a joke now. When you do it. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's just like short. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk a little bit. Yeah. He brings up a good point. You're basically immortal now. Yeah. Like that gift's going to live on for hundreds of years.

That's funny. It was just living in the moment too. Yeah. This is crazy how it happens. Or the time you put your balls in Frederick Weiss' face. How awesome is that? I didn't know it until later on. Then you saw a picture.

I saw the, this is how old it was a long ago. I saw it on the camcorder. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. It's a camcorder after the game. One of Gary Payton's boys had a video and showed me because during the game, right after that, well, when it happened, the rest of the game, none of my teammates mentioned

that I jumped over this gentleman. Right. By the name of Frederick Weiss. Would you like to apologize to the nation of France, say you should mix scoos? Sorry. No, don't say sorry. Do not. No, don't say sorry.

Sorry. That was one of the best thongs in USA basketball history. Yeah. Probably the best thongs. Yeah. Sorry. I was actually wondering about that because you always see, especially during the slam dunk contest, dudes on the sideline, that's like the one time a year where you break

out the camcorder. So have you ever gone back and like watched a slam dunk contest video of like, I don't know, Steve Francis on the sideline with his handy cam? Or did you just go back and watch? Well, Shaxx my neighbor and he still has that camera sitting in his office like, bro, get rid of that. Yeah. Like it's just, it's just historic.

And, you know, I had a few in my day, obviously, and then sometime I walked by, I was like, I can't imagine like, why would I use this camera when I can use my phone now? Right. It's just how the changing of the garden and how times have changed. But I just remember like KG. Obviously, I think some of the things that we remember, the two things I think you remember from, from that, when you talk about a camcorder, you think of KG with his small one, which is probably the newest, latest and greatest.

And then Shaq with his movie film, like he had a huge one, like, yeah, and that's what it's like. 45 pounds. Yeah. Exactly. And I felt like he could shoot a movie right then. So did you ever, speaking of that clip and like that dunk contest, have you had a moment in your career where you were still wearing the fashion of the old NBA and the

new NBA? Because it's, you know, that's another thing that's totally changed. You don't get the memo. Yes. When it changes. No. So I was caught in like the old one. Baggy stuff.

All the young guys like, oh, bro, you don't do that anymore. The cable net turtleneck. Yeah. What do you do? I mean, you, you had to basically kind of have a transition slowly. Burn all your clothes. Because all those clothes, like you can't get all of that Taylor. Yes.

Speaking. Yes. Speaking of which, your cousin. Where you going? I already knew it. I already knew it. I mean, have you ever talked to him about his pants? They were ridiculous.

It was, uh, he was, he told the story of how it, why it happened. Okay. It's Tracy McGrady, by the way. If you don't know that Vince's cousin. It was, um, you know, he said he, he said he was taking clothes off the rack, rushing to where he was doing the NBA TV. I think that's what it was. And he said, when he was going to put the suit on, he was like, oh shoot, I grabbed the

wrong one. And he, he was originally told that they were just doing chest up there with no, no full, no full, um, full shots. And so it's like, yeah, we want to do this on court feature and with you and whatever there. So he was just like, and you could tell he's standing there. Like I know him. So I could see him.

Like you could, you could tell he was standing there so uncomfortable, like, yeah, I'm going to fall over the place. Bad. That's what he says. That's how it happened. And he's, he's, he's cool with it though, believe it or not. He's cool. He needs to bring him back out.

Sometimes you just have to buy a pair of pants and you can't choose. It's going to come back. Yeah. Like this, this, this error, this, this, this skinny jeans and that was back in my, my parents days. Yeah. You know, my mom. Well, but then it kind of went from there to the bell bottoms.

Jinkos. Yeah. So it's just like everything is going to come full circle. Uh, it's will. We still have those things. Like, I mean, it's just right now. It's just kind of hard to believe. So you can't get rid of it.

All of a sudden you're like, man, I should have kept my, like I still have my koojee sweaters. Oh, nice. And they're starting to slowly come back. Yeah. Bring it back. Bring it back. You have like your own vintage store in your, in your closet.

I do. That's actually great. Yeah. With the Kangl hat. Yeah. That, that's a vintage look right there. I do. That needs to come back.

Speaking of a, a team act. Yeah. So McGrady, you and him played together up in Toronto. Uh, you, you went in your separate ways. He went elsewhere. Orlando. How good could that team have been if he had stuck around for like four or five more years?

And it's all here, say, obviously, but, um, man, I think it would have done great for the simple fact of you tend to, you see the potential. Now you start bringing in and luring in some of these big, uh, big free agents or the pieces that you really need. So now when you're saying, Oh, we don't need a superstar, but we need a solid power forward. You can go get one now because they'll look and say, Oh man, Carter McGrady. Yeah. Great start.

Right. Right. Alvin Williams foundation. Morris Peterson, like, or whatever, you know, you just start, you know, you just implementing everything you need. So I really think things could have hit the ceiling. I mean, I heard a, I heard a quote that Kobe felt like that team could have done well back in the day.

I was like, Oh, well, you know, because you never know, like he felt like if we stayed together, we could have won championships and you know, we've talked about it was like, man, what if, and it'd have been cool to know. I mean, we never know. Maybe we don't get free agents. It's just the two of us. Right. I don't know.

But yeah, you know, it's all speculation. I think that's the toughest thing about trying to go back in history and the what, the what if. And it's just so tough. But at the same time, I know how we enjoy playing and we enjoy going out there, dominating is like, okay, when it's not happening, all right, you got to go. So it was just, I think good things could have happened just knowing how things happen. Like guys want to play with teams or play with players and teams were trying to win.

And we wanted to, first of all, we wanted to show our ability and establish ourselves. And, you know, and that's what he wanted. He wanted to show that he was very capable and he goes to Orlando and scoring 60 points. Yeah. Yeah. So, and it's just, I think that's when people say, Oh, what if, so it's just, it's just one of those things like he's, you see him doing that and playing that well, but that's because it was his team.

Well, instead of having to share that and maybe all the time, you know, we never know. Now looking back at it, he felt like we could have made it happen. So that's like a narrative that's a lot of times you see in media, like, you know, there's only one ball, there's an alpha on each team, Kyrie leaves LeBron because he wants, Kyrie wants his own team. Do you, you've been in locker rooms for 20 plus years. Is that true? It's definitely, it's just in there.

That's the funny thing about it. Kyrie tries to create the Golden State Warriors basketball team, but the problem is you have to have the guys that are willing to still be the stars that they are, but unselfish. Those guys are unselfish and they know when it comes out, we need a post up, we need a big shot. If Steph wrote, we're going to, we're going to roll through step. You put your ego aside for winning and it's easy to sit here and say, Hey, well, we're going to win.

We, we have the team. Look at us on paper, but when we go in the court, you used to be a go to guy, you used to be a go to guy. I used to be a go to guy and then when coach said, I need a, I need a bucket. That's what we know. Right. But if it's who was rolling in that moment and that's, if you noticed in the playoffs this year when Katie was rolling, they gave him the ball and it was, Steph didn't have

a problem saying that in his interviews, you know, vice versa, you know, and you can't create that unless you have those type of guys willing to, to, to play unselfish for the good of the team for the bigger picture. Right. They're winning championships. Yeah. And we sit here and just say, I had this conversation about cheating, like they're, they're cheating. Right.

They're cheating. But you know why they're cheating? Because they're willing as a group to play unselfishly to win basketball games. Everybody can't do that. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great point. Remember that Lakers team back in the day with Carmelone and Peyton.

Like, I was like, Oh, that's cheating that they should win. And they didn't. Right. Kobe and Shaq, you know, those four right there, like they probably should have, but guys had to kind of put their pride aside and it's, it's not easy to do. They lost to the Pistons who was like the ultimate team. That was exactly. Exactly.

Exactly. Exactly. And I think at the end of the day, that's what happened. Like you can be super talented, but it comes in those, those crunch time moments. Are you able to it? Can you handle you not being the guy, but you wanted to be on this team. So those moments are going to happen more than 10 times. Right.

You know, and then that's, that's, that's kind of the thing. Yeah. Honestly, I was curious to see how the Chris Paul, um, Harden thing worked out. They made it work, but that's two guys who were willing to, you know, Chris. Okay. Sometimes you're going to bring it up. James. Okay.

You got it. Sometimes. And they were really, I know it's different for Chris, obviously being a point guard and, you know, pretty much that's what the, your point guard, you dominate the ball as far as setting up an offense, but you walked into a situation where James Harden was like that way and he was willing, he was cool with it and they made it work and it almost worked for them. Obviously they got injured at opposite times.

Yeah. So they were all, one of them was always the awful. Yeah. And it did a great job in subbing where sometimes Chris goes out early, now James will dominate the ball now. So he got you kind of, kind of get everything that you want from your players or they, they want from them, you know, or they all bought into it. That's the biggest thing is if you can't get guys to buy in, it's not happening.

Right. So big cap brought up the Pistons. That team of what was that, 2006, yeah, 2005 Ben Wallace, Rashid Wallace, Miami won six, right? Four or five. Yeah. Yeah. You're the encyclopedia of NBA knowledge.

I'm going to defer to you, but they had, they had Rashid Wallace on a team. He was a dude that you know pretty well, going back to college days and he was kind of labeled as a selfish dude early on in his career, but then he goes to Detroit and he becomes like the ultimate team guy. What was that situation like up there? Do you think? But I think he's, he's a, he's a winner. He wants to win.

That one thing about she is at the end of the day, he just wants to win and he's going to do it in an unconventional way. I think people look at Draymond the same way, but at the same time he wants to win and he's going to do it. However, like, and he's all for his teammates. That's one thing he would do. He would get a technical for you. He will fight for you.

It's just, it's all about winning for him and it's funny playing pick up basketball with him now. Like today, he's the same way. Yeah. Like he, man, you throw the ball across the gym. You know, if he, it was a foul and you know, you fouled him, you didn't call it. He's going to like, you know, he's going to argue it. Right.

Like he just wants to win. He loves playing basketball. Like he still plays pick up this day to this day, but he doesn't want to play in the NBA anymore. Yeah. I guess because all the, he considers the BS, which I understand. Yeah. All right.

So we're wrapping up here. The seat question. Yeah. I mean, we were, we were getting the numbers. We'll stay forever. I think you got other people coming up. So we do a Seeky question. You can put in promo code take you get $10 off to go see Vince Carter.

Are you playing next year? That's not the question. Oh, definitely. Oh, okay. You definitely playing? Yeah. Okay. All right.

Yeah. Well, I hope so. Okay. We'll just wait and see where Dwight Howard gets signed so you don't go there. All right. So, well, yeah. So I was, I was going to. Yeah.

No, no. You said yes to me. All right. So I'm going rapid fire. You have to answer these quickly. I'll play next year. I actually had. So that was part of one of my questions.

Best teammate you ever played with? Oh man. That's not fair. Rapid fire. Just go. Okay. Double win start. Rapid fire.

Best teammate you ever played with. Okay. Double win start. Give me a few seconds. Go. Oh man. Right now? Yeah.

You just say T-Mac. Mugs. Cousins. Yeah. Mugs. Mugs? Huh? Could you jump over Mugs?

Yeah. Definitely. That's impressive. That's crazy. Of course you could. Do you think Dwight Howard gets a bad rap? Yes. Even though you just said that you don't want to play with him?

No. He has a bad rap though. Okay. Oh, okay. So you've confirmed the other part. I did? Yeah. You just did.

It was implied and confirmed. What's your best bowling score? 265. Ooh. Think you ever hit 300? No. Ooh. Why not?

Not with that attitude? No. That's for myself. I know. Okay. I put too much pressure on myself. Okay. Best trash talker that you ever played against?

Gary Breen. Yeah. That's fair. Slash Antoine Walker. Ooh. Okay. Okay. That one's out.

Yeah. Uh-huh. The shimmy. He gave the shimmy. That was after the trash talking. Yeah. Have you seen Twan now though? Like you kind of, you won that.

Yeah. You won that trash talking you just played. I mean. Put down the fork. Twan. Did KG talk shit to the French team when he played against them? Slash KG. Yeah.

Everybody. So what would he say to the French team? He talked trash to the Japanese team, the Chinese team. It doesn't matter whether they knew it or not. They knew this face meaning I'm talking to you. That's great. That's great. Toughest guy to guard.

Allen Iverson. Mmm. That's a good answer. That's a really good answer. Do you still play the saxophone? I look at it often. Okay. So that's a no.

That's a no. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. I look at it often. But jazz is the notes that you don't play. That's funny. This morning technically does.

This morning before I left I was packing and I looked at it. I saw it. It was right there. I was like ooh. Yeah. Later. Okay. See ya.

See ya. Maybe another time. Yeah. All right. Last question for me. You played in Toronto, New Jersey, Orlando, Phoenix, Dallas, Memphis, Sacramento. That's it. Did you ever think about playing in a real city?

Dallas is great man. Oh. Yeah. Orlando is great. I can't pick Orlando because I live there. Yeah. Orlando is probably nice. That's it man.

Yeah. Orlando is great. Toronto actually. You ever met Tiger Woods? Yeah. He's my neighbor. Really? Oh.

That's nice. You ever go over to this house? Have a little party? No. You know what? Tiger Woods. Yeah. Oh.

Yeah. You ever go to Perkins with him? I used to eat there all the time. Really? The famous one? Yeah. Oh. Yeah.

Tiger. Tiger Woods. They had a back room there for parties. Yeah. Uh-huh. For parties. And a Perkins. Yeah.

What Perkins doesn't have a party room? I would eat there all the time. Yeah. That's awesome. But he was my neighbor. We had the same agent back then. Okay. Nice.

Nice. All right. Last question. Last, last question. How many more years you got? One. That's it? Yes.

Come on. Is it really weird? Yeah. You were in the league before they were born? Yes. Especially, yeah. Yeah. Because two of the guys on my team were like two months old.

Or now, now this year, they're probably, yeah, more than likely all the guys who were drafted probably were. They ever try to get you to go hang out with them after a game? Sometimes. Yeah. You do it? No. Unless we're going to eat.

Yeah. Not go out. Yeah. And then you're done. Okay. That's just, I mean, the generation different. But yeah. Yeah.

It's fun. We're going to go learn how to dunk. Yeah. And then shove it directly in Darren Ravel's stupid face. Yeah. Hey, man. I played him one-on-one. I beat him 11-0.

He even hit the rim. Yeah. He stinks. He's not an alpha like us. I mean, you could tell. You walked in here. You're like, oh, these guys know sports. Yeah.

They're like my guys. I am sports. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Vince Carter. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

I appreciate it. You are. And you were mortal with your gift. I appreciate it. Yeah. You want to just tell the people that it's over? Yeah. Do that.

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By the way, there was a lot of people asking about the fortune cookies. We did not find the fortune cookies. I don't know where the fortune cookies are. Yeah, because they saw it coming. They hid. Yeah, that's true. I feel like there was pieces of the pile that just kind of resorbed itself. And there was mini piles too.

There was boxes inside the pile that were like, oh, that's a mini pile in the pile. It's also a possibility that there were rodents and they found the fortune cookies. Yeah, and we kept them alive. Then they scattered once they realized the caramel bugles were gross. Yeah, they're like, I'd rather have cracker jacks. Well, rats can't put the bugles on their fingers and that's why I also eat a bugle. But they could put it on their tails. True.

Which would look pretty badass. True. Remember Pizza Rat? Yeah, that was cool. He was everything. Yeah, everything to everyone. 17 times your Pizza Rat. Pizza Rat is my spirit animal.

All right. Let's get to some segments. First up, we have Talking Tennis. This is for Nick Kregos. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.

So he got suspended. He got fined 15,000 pounds for mimicking the jerk off motion with his water bottle with an o-face and then he came. But he squirted the water. To completion. Yes. Yeah, he squirted the water. Ugh.

It was the, ugh, true Talking Tennis. Yeah. I don't see a problem with it. Ugh. I watched a video clip. It didn't look like it wasn't that bad. Ugh. It was no worse than Jason Kelsey's or Travis Kelsey's.

Yeah. Ugh. Which Kelsey was it? One of the Kelsey's. One of those Kelsey boys. Ugh. The basketball playing one. Yeah.

Did the jerk off thing, including the like throw the spew jet you. Ugh. Uh. Ugh. All right. That was Talking Tennis. Ugh. It's also a way to stay relevant, Tennis.

Ugh. Ugh. Oh, God. Ugh. Right there. Ugh. Okay. Oh, it squirted.

All right. We have a spin zone for Blake Portals. Can you tell? Blake Portals said, when asked about his new offense and how he feels comfortable, someone asked him if he would draft himself on his fantasy team. He said, probably not. Maybe Leonard Fournette. It's classic Blake.

Of course Blake said this because one, he doesn't play fantasy because he's not a fucking nerd. And two, he's humble as could be. I would just like to interrupt to tell Blake that nobody cares about his fantasy team. Yeah. So don't tell me that you wouldn't draft yourself. Spin zone. Maybe he's, uh, it is like insider training.

He's, he's, he's bringing the market down so that you can get Blake Portals in like the sixth round. It's a pump and dump. Yup. I'm ready to dump. I'm ready to pump. Yeah. With the Tennis guys.

Don't get him. Don't, don't draft Blake Portals. Every way. Yeah. Hey, Matthew Barry, I know you listened to the show. Um, why don't you just slide Blake on down to number like to Carmela Anthony territory. It was a 537th overall. Yup.

Yup. That's where Blake belongs so I can snatch him up. Yeah. Let's grab him. Actually, you know what? Draft Blake Portals in the first round. I want to see Blake Stock shoot through the roof. I do too.

I want, I want him to be averaging, uh, six overall and your fantasy drafts accordingly. The other thing is I'm not going to draft Blake Portals on my fantasy team because he's on my real life team. My, my team of guys that I, uh, have lost all journalism credit for because I like them as people and I'll root for them no matter what. Um, I've, I've drafted Danny Woodhead every year and in football for the last five years. And even when he's hurt, I leave a spot open for him. It's a baller team.

Yeah. My team of guys I like. Marshall Newhouse. Kyle Long. Marshall Newhouse that had a, had a rough season in terms of ball security, but that's okay. We're getting back on the right track. AJ Green.

Great. Great guy. Yeah. Rock and refuel. We love it. Um, all right. We have a protect the shield. We're the player in the NFL, right guard, Laurent Diverne, what the fuck is his name?

Laurent Diverne Taradiff. Haha. Finished his medical school during his playing career and asked the NFL, he could put, uh, MD on the back of his uniform and they said, no, no, no, no. Um, I agree with them. I agree with the NFL here. Too many doctors and we might start figuring out what concussions are like. Yeah.

This isn't the national medical league. Okay. This is football. I don't care if you're a doctor. Uh, going into the surgery room wearing his football position on his coat. Nope. Nope. Don't see that.

We also have doctors on the football field. They're up in the press box with those binoculars so they can tell whenever someone has a concussion from 500 yards away. They're actually all over Twitter. Yeah. True. So that's, that's our job. True.

To be able to diagnose, uh, severe concussions from online. Yeah. Watching, uh, that's Dr. David Chalice. How dare, how dare the NFL? That's what you, that's the tweet I got ready for every Sunday when they allow someone to hit hard. How dare they? Yeah.

How dare they? I can't watch this anymore. Do you think that the chiefs should be allowed to permanently tag him though? Because you can keep your doctor if you like him. Ooh. What about a, yeah, like a roster, uh, flexibility here. He doesn't actually have to take up a roster spot. Yeah.

He's just a team doctor. Yeah. It's like a, like a player or coach. That actually would be such a great loophole. Yep. Well, JJ Watt, he's a doctor too. Mm-hmm. He did.

He got an honorary doctorate and thought that that made him a doctor. Vin Diesel got a doctorate too. Yeah. He did. Doctor Diesel. Vin Diesel is like, I would trust Vin Diesel with my life if I was like, Hey, Vin, listen, like that time when I couldn't feel my left foot for three months, Vin Diesel could tell me that I was okay.

I saw triple X. Okay. He can get you out of any tough position and that's what a doctor does. Yes. They just say, if you save someone, Michael Rapport is a doctor. That's weird. Yeah. Fuck.

Yeah. That's the worst doctor ever. All right. Last up, we have an update to Mike Greenberg's dumb rules. We do. PFT had the idea a few weeks ago of just not playing a catcher. Not playing a catcher in baseball. It was inspired by all these shifts that are going on against left-handed batters where

they just move everybody over to the right side of the infield. My idea was to just remove the catcher and put the catcher in the infield or the outfield against a batter when there's nobody on base for the first two strikes. So yeah, the umpire gets hit a few times with some fastballs or whatever, but you don't need a catcher. He cares if the game's delayed a little bit. So it turns out that somebody actually tried this. This is from a message board.

It's from Chin Music. Nice. This is a good commenter. He respects the game. We tried that in a 10, 11-year-old league. Nobody on base, less than two strikes. We'd have the catcher break around the opposite side of the hitter and get about eight feet in front of the plate to try and field any budget tips.

He'd then have to run to the backstop to retrieve any balls that didn't hit the umpire's protective blocker. We stopped when a hitter drilled one into the catcher's back and some of the parents complained. Overall, I don't think it was an effective strategy and wouldn't try it again. We use it for about half the season. As for whether it's legal, the umpires didn't say we couldn't do it, although they clearly didn't like it as they were basically getting thrown at once the catcher jumped out from

behind the plate upon the pitch releasing the ball. That's amazing. Alright, so Chin Music says we tried it for half a season before realizing that it was completely in the play. But legal. And I think, listen, they're on the right track. I wouldn't, I wouldn't use a catcher to field bunts. I would put them out.

I would put them like in between shortstop and second baseman. But I like that because it's like a spit, like a weird wrinkle to this rule is you could basically have the catcher stand in the halo of the batter with all their gear on. Yeah. Just like, yeah. Farting on them. Right. I kind of like that.

So, okay, so the umps got hit a bunch and whatever, who cares, Joe West will probably fucking start, you know, like I stand with Joe West's movement. But other than that, I think it worked. My guess is, since this was a 10 and 11 year old league, the umps were probably like 14 years old and they just didn't have the balls to disagree with the coaches. Right. And they just got beamed over and over until one of their parents complained. Which, by the way, I wish that this was on tape.

I would love to see just a bias getting drilled. Yeah. If you did this, please send it to us, Chin Music. Um, all right. That's our show Wednesday. So Tuesday we are hosting Kentucky Sports Radio. We do it every single year. Our good friend Matt Jones has invited us back for the third straight year.

We're going for the crown third straight year, 10 to 12 Kentucky Sports Radio. We'll tweet out a link. You can listen to it. We also on Wednesday, we're going to run some of the best of Kentucky Sports Radio. And we have an interview that is up there with the aforementioned AJ Green and Addison Russell. We have Dak Prescott. Let's just say Dak didn't love us.

It was very, very interesting. Let's just say Dak didn't love us. So we'll have that for you on Wednesday. Love you guys. I'll be coming for your love, okay? Take on me, take me on, I'll be gone in a day or two. I'll be gone in a day or two. I'll be gone in a day or two.