Pardon My Take - Wade Phillips, Jokic MVP, The Nets Are Unstoppable & Aaron Rodgers Holds Out

Episode Date: June 9, 2021

Nikola Jokic wins MVP and we celebrate as a regular season Nuggets podcast. Also fat boys everywhere have a Champion (3:33 - 13:50). The Nets are absolutely unstoppable and the Suns crowd is the best (13:50 - 27:12). Hockey playoff talk as the Canadiens are unstoppable (27:12 - 32:53). Aaron Rodgers holds out and we wish him happiness (32:53 - 37:16). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Arch Manning and Lebron telling people to not count him out (37:16 - 58:34). Coach Wade Phillips joins the show to talk about his career in coaching, his best players, Wadeisms, and how his dad paid for him by illegally racing a quarter horse in Louisiana (58:34 - 105:36). We finish the show with a couple segments and FAQ'sYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Oh, fuck. Let's do that again. Oral sex. Ready? Today is Wednesday, six nine. Nice. Bonk. I was going to say, I was going to say, thank God we are a regular season nuggets podcast

because we just want MVP boys. Let's go. All right. Good job, everybody. Shout out to our regular season nugs. Also shout out for Derek Rose. Derek Rose won the MVP. Yeah.

He got one vote. Yes. The fan vote. Oh, sorry, Hank, was that going to be your, your cool front? Don't worry about me. My bad. But yeah. You got one vote.

It was nice. People got very mad. It was the fan vote. I'm sure that there was some sort of fan organization around that. I actually had a, I just voted a million times. Were you allowed to do that online? Yeah. Like a hashtag thing?

Yeah. It was a hashtag. I don't know if you saw. But yeah. No. Jokic wins the MVP, the lowest drafted player to ever win the MVP, 41st pick. Yeah. The fattest kid to ever grow up into the MVP.

That picture of his little titties, which I think you can say, right, even though he's under 18, since it's a boy, he has little boy titties is going to be stuff of legends for all the fat boys out there for the rest of time. Like if you have a fat boy, you put that picture up on your refrigerator, like, you see that guy? He's the MVP of the NBA in 2021. His little manlets. He is definitely a shirt in the pool kind of guy.

It's fat. It's Fat Boy Summer, according to the hard facts, and so I've noticed that there, there's a huge amount of fat pictures, not even fat pictures. There's just a lot of pictures of Jokic as a child. How often was he getting his picture taken? Because now it's like every time I see. I think that's pretty right. Yeah.

Well, it's every time I see a picture of a fat kid, I think that it's Nicola Jokic now. Yeah. I mean, it's a hell of a, like the 41st pick in the draft is crazy. It was such a low pick in the draft that you see the videos recirculating today in the live broadcast. Yes. It was a Taco Bell commercial.

They were running a Taco Bell commercial during the draft pick. That's amazing. That was how people found out who the Nuggets got. What was the analysis, the live analysis of that pick? It was not. Was he one of the ones they just didn't talk about? No, it was Adataco and Acacia Dia together. You get a Quesarito.

That's perfect. He should be called the big Quesarito. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. All right. So just a couple of stats. That could stick.

Yeah. The big Quesarito. The big Quesarito. And Taco Bell, if you want to wet the whistle a little bit on that. It's too bad we don't root for him anymore. Go Suns. So lowest draft pick ever to win the MVP. First draft pick or sorry, first MVP to play every game in a season since Kobe in 2008.

Take that for load management. I like that. Was only 72 games but still should count and he was top five in total points, rebounds and assists. And he's just a cool looking MVP. You know what he is? He's like a combo breaker because you're going to see a lot of the same people winning MVP back to back to back to back.

I'm sure some of the usual suspects will come back next year and the year after and continue to win it. He's going to be a trivia question now on. I'm telling the audience right now there will come a time in your life when you are asked who the 2020-2021 MVP was and you're going to need to remember this moment when I'm telling you that it's Jokic because it will win you money. Yes. And also who got one vote, Derrick Rose.

Yeah. Yeah. Those are both going to be trivia questions. Derrick Rose another combo breaker for his MVP. I just love watching him play and I know we're not a Nuggets podcast anymore in the playoffs but he is one of those guys that like just everything about his game is so much fun because it doesn't fully make sense but then it's just beautiful to watch. For a second I actually thought he was on the jazz.

Oh yeah. He could be. We are watching the jazz right now. It's on the background. It's 1048. Yep. Pretty late. So we are paying attention to that game with one eye.

We are. We are. We're giving the West Coast some love. Kauai Leonard is awesome. There you go. Playoff dub. So let's talk real quick. The Suns are fucking electric.

Guy Fieri is now on the bandwagon in Flavortown and I'm actually like I know we don't like bandwagon fans. Actually I have no problem with bandwagon fans. I always I always thought it was so stupid to be like more people are buying this stuff and like the city is more electric. Yeah. It's actually awesome. But it's like movies.

Yeah. Right. Like everyone's getting pumped about it. Is it the fan version of a super team though? Well my point about Guy Fieri is I think he's America's fan. I think he should just go from city to city sitting court side or sitting like 50 yard line for the best team every year and be like yeah I'm a fan of this team now. I think he gets a pass.

I think Guy Fieri should be America's mascot. Yeah. He's like he is everything that we thought the bald eagle would be. Right. So when I see Guy Fieri on the sideline I just think if you're cheering against whatever team Guy Fieri is cheering for then you're essentially rooting against Flavor. Right. He's Drake's Wario.

He's the good version. Right. Of a bandwagon fan. Yes. So he should be everywhere. Shout out to Bald Eagle even though like you're almost extinct. No. No.

No. No. No. No. Wrong. Wrong. Is it back? We have we have a plethora of Bald Eagle.

Everybody in America go buy a gun and kill a Bald Eagle. It's a federal crime to kill a Bald Eagle. It is. And that's why they keep fucking. Yeah. There's 316,700 individual bald. Oh we're good. In the lower 48 states.

Dude that is such a lie they told us. Not even including Alaska. That's the lower 48 I assume is not Alaska. No Alaska is the southernmost state based on maps. They gotta have like it's always down. Oh yeah. In Hawaii. Hawaii is the southernest state.

Yes. They told us the Bald Eagle was in trouble like 15 years ago. I think there's more Bald Eagles than humans in Alaska. Yeah probably that's true. You could pick any animal. You can't swing a dead cat in Alaska without knocking a Bald Eagle out of the sky. Yeah they're like mosquitoes in Alaska. There's just Bald Eagles everywhere.

But we love them. We love them. They're just nowhere near as cool as Guy Fieri. Guy Fieri represents everything great about America that the Bald Eagle does not. Right. Right. Exactly. So suns, way to go, go suns go.

There's something different about the camera angles that they're showing the fans at. Either that or they're just cooler in Phoenix. No you know what it is. I think everyone has just a touch of like sun poisoning at the suns game. That could be it. Because it's in the desert. So you know that feeling when maybe you've had a couple drinks and you've been out in the sun all day and it's really hot and you feel just an extra little bit punch drunk.

That's what the suns crowd is every time. There are also more children there. It looks like half basketball game, half dude, perfect concert. Well, these are easy. You're early because they're like seven. Yeah, they're like seven. The kids can get home on a school night. I like that.

Some things are bigger than sports. Yeah. There's also an element of the suns fandom online. I think it's a small thing right now, but it's gaining steam. Have you seen Chugging with the Fellows? No. Best I can tell it's a group of like a couple hundred suns fans that just chug beers after wins.

Yeah. And they just videotaped them. They're Dana B. The entire fan base is Dana B's. You know what? Suns Twitter actually is like, I want to give a shout out because I somehow follow a few of them, but they they have a very strong. I always respect any fan base that hasn't been good in a really long time. And it's like I saw a tweet that was like a roll call beforehand.

And like everyone was replying. I was like, this is kind of cool. It's very positive. I like Suns Instagram a little bit more. Here's something from Suns Instagram real quick. No. I think that the suns actually won today. I don't know.

I'm seeing a lot of memes and shit. So I don't know if you know how to get to me, but please tell him that I want that MVP award because I just really think that it's my fault that they keep winning. So please get back to me. I love you so, so bad. And I hope you're not cheating on me. But if you are cheating, at least we're a condom.

OK, love you. Damn. So that sounds like you guys are official. That's one member of Suns Instagram. Yes. Yes. Bonk, her. I like how that's actually a beautiful way to live life, though, is she doesn't have to check the box score.

She can just determine who wins or lose based on the means. Yeah. How many notifications? She gets through 2021 shit. Yeah. All right. Like why were the Sixers doing the suck at thing before the game? That should have been the Suns. Yes. Yes.

Which indeed, he righted the wrong tonight. The Sixers won their back. They also are back because they were booing Danny Green for missing shots, which when you boot with like Philadelphia, I know that it's such a cliche and really annoying, the nature is healing. But Philadelphia, booing their own sports players during a playoff game, that truly is like, all right, we're going to be OK. Well, that's because Danny Green is a football team fan, right?

He there was that fight that happened outside, so they don't do him. He's not as Philly. He doesn't represent Philly sports as much as Philly sports fans. Yes, Philly sports. I think that's going to be a good series, though. I'm excited for. I mean, that felt like a good counterpunch from the Sixers, which they needed to do because everyone was freaking out or not.

They weren't freaking out, but everyone was like, fuck, Trey Young might be really good, including myself. So in theory, I agree with you. I think that it's going to be evenly matched in terms of games one and loss. But I feel like this is my series that I'm highlighting for every game. We'll be a blowout one way or the other. Even though, technically, the first game wasn't. Yeah, they just ran out of time.

It was a two point game. It felt like no, four point. Yeah, it felt like a blowout. You actually know what the craziest part about the first game was. I'm pretty sure every every starter on the Sixers was plus in their plus minus. Every starter on the Hawks was minus and plus minus. That how does that work?

Because math lies. No, the bench plays. Oh, yeah. I forgot about those. Yes. And the fact that the Sixers made that comeback at the end. Yeah. Changed it.

Changed everything. I saw that as a tweet. I didn't actually follow up. So that could be wrong. But it was a tweet. I'm actually going to look look it up right now. Hank, I have a question while Big Cat looks that up. How do you feel about rooting against the Sixers?

Basically taking a shit on the entire city of Philadelphia every single day on part of my take and also knowing that Bob Kraft was literally sitting courtside tonight. Well, him and Michael Rubiner are good friends as well documented. So I have no problem with that. Fact check. Correct. Bogdanovic was technically a zero, but everyone else was a negative

and everyone on the Sixers was a positive in a in a what was felt like a blowout by the Hawks. That is a very fun stat. That is a weird stat. And then obviously everyone on the bench for the Hawks was a plus who was a positive and everyone on the bench for the Sixers was a negative. Kind of weird, huh? Turns out that Joel Embiid being healthy makes a pretty big difference.

Oh, yeah, I really do think it's just going to go back and forth with like 10 point victories. Yeah, I do think the Sixers are going to win that series. But I've been wrong many, many times for you have 40 points for for Mr. Suckett, I guess triple H. He's out. Mr. Suckett, he's out. Let's talk about the Nets.

Because the hot takes now are. Giannis is no more than a one B. He can't he can't ascend to the next level. The Bucks have hit the wall that they've hit every single year. I tend to believe there's some truth in that, but it's more that the Nets are so much better than we're giving them credit for. And the regular season doesn't really matter because they're just going to nuke everyone. So I think that what we're seeing here is just a convenient narrative.

And I love narrative. So I'm going to say yes, that the Bucks just can't get it done, even though they're running into a once in a generation team in the Nets. Like that's how that's how narratives work. The Bucks, if they let's say the Bucks made the Eastern Conference Finals this year and then they got hit with a drone strike and the team was annihilated. We'd be like choked again, classic Bucks not showing up for the finals. I mean, Giannis has to be able to make free throws, free throws.

They're free for a reason. But the Nets are so fucking good. They're shooting 50, 50 percent from the field, 44 percent from free from three and 91 percent from free throw. And Blake Griffin is officially back. Oh, my God. I. So I have something to say about that. I've heard a lot of slander that Blake dogged it in in Detroit.

There's such a thing as called like location based allergies. Yep. So maybe there's some things up in Detroit also agree with his body. How about 2019 when he took that pistons team to the AC basically on his own back? Yeah. Do we forget that? Yeah. When he was playing on one leg. Exactly. Yeah. He had that huge like cast thing.

Blake actually gave his heart, his soul and his body, his blood and his sweat and his piss to Detroit and they just were paying by turning their back on him just because he decided to turn his back on them. Yeah. I don't I don't like the slander. Blake is it is really kind of the watching the Nets. It's crazy that James Harden got hurt and is out and who knows when he'll be back. And then you watch the Nets and you you could make like if you told me if you knew nothing about basketball and you watch that game, you're like,

and actually they're missing one of the best players in the NBA. Right. Right. What? How how is that possible? Like the Nets, Blake Griffin is an awesome player. He's like total grit and grind lunch pail guy now. And then I treated this on Monday night when I was watching the game. But the part of the Nets that feels like so unfair is the fact that Joe Harris is on the team and they just like Kyrie will cross someone up and then pass it. And then they'll pass it.

And then Joe Harris just standing wide open and just just three. Yeah. Here's a hypothetical. So it's so not fair. The thought occurred to me yesterday because I was watching the Nets play and I'm like, this it does seem unfair at times. How many teams do you think that the Nets could beat in a seven game series if all five of their starters had to score the exact same amount of points? How many teams could they beat in a seven game series? If you have to hit on the head.

So it's like everyone has to score exactly 14 points. James Harden's not injured. James Harden's not injured. Yeah. OK, so Joe Harris, James Harden, Kevin Durant, Kyrie, Irving, Blake Griffin, I think they could beat almost everyone. And really, I mean, you think they could they could hit the nail on the head that well? Does the other team know? No, no. Yes, OK, then I think they could. They might get on.

Yeah, the other team didn't know that that's what they had to do. I think they could draw a place for anyone and they would score. I think I whatever they want. I don't think they could beat everybody. I think that they'd probably lose to maybe the Sixers. But yeah, that's that's also a maybe. Yeah, that's how unfair they are. Yeah, they they're just really fucking good.

And Kevin Durant, I it sucks. I really want him to come on the podcast, but he is. I like him so much now. And it's it hurts to say, but I really do. Because the his answer to the reporter, Jake, what did you think about that, by the way, as a big J journalist? So if you missed it. After the game tweet this morning.

No, no, no, not not the J. Williams, if not the Lana Road stuff, which was also incredible. If you missed that, it's alleged that Kevin Durant brought a backup date to his date with it with porn star, former porn star Lana. Yeah, but how much faith can you put in what a porn star says on a random podcast? Exactly. Exactly. What? Yes.

You should hit up Lana Rhodes. I was pregnant. So she you know, you know, she fucks. I'm not hitting up anybody. I'm getting my phone's blown up over here. Yeah. Are you talking about the tweet this morning? No, no, I'm talking about last night after the game, the reporter. I don't know who it was said basically like Kevin Durant. Two years ago, you blew out your Achilles in your comeback.

Did you ever think you would be this good? And he was like, what what was that question? Of course I did. So is that what this tweet this morning was about? I don't know what to tweet this man. No, no, that was not. Wait, wait, no, I want to hear Jake read that tweet though. OK, so all right, so let me let me let me tell you what this tweet is about.

And then you can read it. But but first answer my question, the quite the the the reporter said, did you ever think you'd be this good again? Yeah, like why ask that? Because obviously he's going to say he laughed in his face. He's like, yeah, I just said to sit like the opposite. Not. Yeah, 100 percent. All right. So you're you're the tweet you're about to read

is Jay Williams went on get up about the answer party or party. He said like the Halloween holiday at a holiday party. And Kevin Durant went up to him was like, don't ever compare me to Yanis. I Jay Williams has like big time liar vibes. That's all I'm going to say. But like he just the way he like presented it was just very weird. Yeah, no, that that was it's a hell of an accusation to toss out. But I agree with it.

Yeah, like when I watched it, I was like, you're not telling the truth. Yeah, I think there's probably like a little bit of truth in there. Like he's like, hey, who do you think would win one on one? You or Jonas? He was like, probably me. Yeah. And he's like, OK, I know what I'm dropping on get up. Green, he's going to love this. Like like Jay Williams should have should have asked just anyone else

before he told that story. Like, hey, would you believe if I told you that Kevin Durant came up to me and like emphatically at a Christmas party was like, don't you ever say that I'm Yanis? Right. I don't think he's walking around with that sort of chip on her. So you might tweet it, right? But he's not going to like stake you out in real life. So so this is what Kevin Durant's response was.

Man's will do anything to advance their careers in this media, S H I T wanting to be accepted by an industry that will dispose of you whenever they please. Keep me out all that corny ASS talk about who's better in legacy and all that dumb ASS S H I T. I don't even talk like that. OK, I like it. Well, yeah, Kevin Durant, that's that's like 99% of what we do is just like if somebody is really, really good in the NBA, the first thing that we have to do is be like, well, he's not the best of all time.

Yeah. So how much can I really enjoy this? Right, exactly. Like, Yanis is has won two MVPs. Rod is an is an unbelievable talent. Such a joy to watch. But he is really just a Robin at best. Yeah. Well, he can't beat the best teams of all time by himself. Right. So I yeah, I mean, it was I just love the Kevin Durant.

Like, I think it's because the burner came out and he kind of accepted it. But he's just forever online. I really I also think he's the most regular superstar of all time in the NBA. Yes, he's he's as close as you can get to normal. Yeah, he's just like a regular dude. And he thinks like a regular person would realize is this absurd situation that he's in where hundreds of millions of people have opinions about him

who he will never meet in his life. And he's better at basketball than all of them. And he's managing it pretty honestly. Right. He's like in his weakest moments. Sometimes he'll forget that they're just mad at their own lives. But then he remembers and he's like, oh, yeah, that's right. This guy thinks that he sucks. Yeah. So instead of telling himself that he sucks, he tells me that I suck.

Yeah, I'm rooting for the Nets because of Blake. But I also think that that's probably our best chance. He is also bald. He I mean, I said it on one day show, he's way more bald in person. Kevin Durant, I think would come on this podcast with Blake after they won a championship. OK, I really do. I think that that would be the time.

I mean, I've I've asked him a million times via DM because he started a conversation with me two years ago by just replying to one of my Instagram stories that playing pick up hoops saying your game is trash out of the blue. And that's Kevin Durant. Like he is just always online. I love that about him now. It's something that's happened.

It's flipped. Maybe leaving the Warriors did it. Do you think that he's going to go on? He's just going to make his first. What? He's going to go on Dax's podcast. Yes, I mean, I think it's just because he's negging you. Yeah, he probably does just love the neck. He's been on one of your podcasts before. Yeah, but like one of your fucking podcasts, bro, snakes.

We need him on part of my take. We all need a part of my take. I mean, said it was a pre-COVID. And at the time he was going to come on and then COVID. Yeah. And I also was like, I'm saving all the part of my take stuff for a part of my take. You opened it up with that. Yeah, I was like, we got a lot of stuff to talk about

that we're not going to talk about. So we still have that. All right. So yeah, the nets are unstoppable. I don't know. Like I feel like and, of course, it's only been two games. And who the fuck knows? But I feel like we're going to be in a month. The conversations would be like

are the nets one of the greatest teams of all time. I think we need to have that. We need to pre have that conversation. You know why big cat? One sweep and that'll start happening. So that if it goes like seven games in the finals, then we can say that they're disappointing. Yeah, it's actually not that impressive of finals.

I feel it though. It's coming in. And then listen, if they keep playing the way they have in these first two games, they deserve it because it really is. Like they just fucking jump on you. I mean, that's that game one. It is very reminiscent of the Warriors. The game one, they were the there was a moment

in the third quarter where the nets were up six. Giannis was at the free throw line. He missed both free throws. And like two seconds later, they had thrown the ball down court and Kyrie Irving hit a three and they were up nine. And that was the game. I predict this conversation will happen very quickly.

Would these nets beat those Warriors with Kevin Durant playing on both teams? Who wins? I like it. I like it. I think I think the Warriors win. These nets versus those warriors with Kevin Durant. Yeah. Can we make Blake?

No, you know what? Blake is actually I think his best form ever right now. Well, he's dealt with teammates that have hit you in the balls before. So right. Montgrain wouldn't be able to deal with that. It depends on which Kevin Durant would be more pissed off. I think this Kevin Durant might be more pissed off. Well, would it be the the first before the first Kevin Durant

wasn't pissed off yet. He was still living the burner life without a doubt. He was still in the closet as a burner. But I think he was pissed off because everyone hated his move and he was like, fuck everyone. I'm going to be the best player on the war. I don't know that he was pissed off, though. I think he was sad Durant.

All right, Kevin Durant, please let us know what you think about this hypothetical. Those Warriors against these nets, Kevin Durant on both. This is very important. Yes. So let us know what you think. Legacy talk. All right. Before we talk some other stuff,

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Let's talk a little hockey, Hank. Bruins, Tuka's really hurt. Refs kind of fucked us over. I don't know, Tuka's, Tuka's really hurt, banged up. The refs aren't even going to go for game six score the game. I think it was five three. Yeah, refs, refs, four, yeah, five, four. Well, yeah, I mean, there was a clear there was a missed penalty,

which the Islander scored right after in the first penalty that the Bruins got called was for slashing. It just wasn't a penalty in an Islander scored. So I also think I would say that penalties, you know, obviously, Tuka, that's the thing where it's one of those things where Tuka let in four goals and 13 shots. So yes, very, very bad. What's the rest were also bad.

They can both exist. Both can be true. I like that, Hank. What's the what's the line going to be about Tuka after this? Because isn't he kind of like a love hate relationship? There's always been. I mean, that's like Boston sports media. There's always been kind of a lot of shit talked about him

because he's never won a cup because in Boston, that's all that matters. But he is a world-class goalie. I think he is really injured. That's what my that's what my what's his injury. I don't know. Hockey injury, lower body, lower body, lower upper or both. I think it's lower. I actually do think that he's injured

because he was hot in the first series. And now you're running into last night. Varley was standing on his head. There's a big time, even four goals. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, like, you know, some of those are garbage time. Yeah, it was five three. And then they led up another goal because they were just trying really hard.

I think the Bruins like outshot him by like third. It was the worst thing in the world in playoff. So on the poop meter, where are we at? Panic button, pant, high, red, real high, code red. I think you what you need to do. I was talking to our good friend, John Fidelberg, in the kitchen today, and he said the spin zone, he still thinks the Bruins can win,

but the spin zone is with the injuries they have that they would get pumped by the lightning anyway. So there you go. And the lightning have have have advanced. I don't pretend to know a lot about hockey. Whitney is usually the guy I listen to for those things. Once he said whoever wins a series to get in pump by the lightning, I already was like, all right,

does it really matter that much? Yeah. Well, yeah, because it's also it's very public that the Borellis, you know, it's the well, that's the old. That's what matters more than anything. Yeah, you don't want Borelli to get one over on you. Yeah, he's got one over. He's going to hold that over your big time. He's going to big time get you.

Yeah. And then also, you can always say that, like, you weren't even supposed to be here. Right. No one thought that the Bruins would be in this position. You outperformed what your expectations were. I don't think that you can just say that, though. They have a line called the perfection line. You can just say that. That must be a good line. Yeah.

That's the hockey. The Canadians, which I someone said, there's been a lot of people who have been mad at me for pronouncing it that way. But then a true Habs fan said, you need to keep pronouncing it that way because they're on an absolute tear. They I just want to highlight how ridiculous,

like this run is for them. I saw a stat. They haven't trailed in 437 minutes straight now. They were down 3-1 against the Leafs less than two weeks ago, and now we're sitting here and they're in the conference finals. It's a game of runs. That's seven games straight that they rattled off.

They have not trailed again for 437 minutes. You think it's going to be a problem? Rest versus rest, though. You have some time off. I agree. I agree. I don't know. That's just a that's just a fucking crazy run. Like, if you're a Habs fan, you got to just be living it up. Although you can't because I think you got to stay inside.

Yeah, right. Live it up inside. Yeah, it's not chug wine with the fellas. Couch surfing. I think that that Witt is probably I think he's pretty astute when he says that when you have to go play in front of fans for the first time, it's going to be a shock to the system.

Right. I'm penciling that in for the away team. Yes. At that point, whoever that is, my guess is it's going to be the Avalanche Are they winning right now? It's just tied to two up at 1109 p.m. OK, yeah, but I think he's right about that. And by the way, the Ryan Whitney mug shot his like last year picture that is everywhere on the Internet

whenever somebody like Google's Ryan Whitney. What an asshole he looks like in that picture. He's got that smirk. Did you do that on purpose? I think so. It's perfect. Yeah, like that picture should be next to Dick Head in the dictionary. Yeah, I love I love Witt, but I think even he would look at that guy and he'd be like, I want to kick that guy's ass. Yes, absolutely. We also got an answer to the recurring guest question.

Number one, overall, all time is Blake Bortles. All right, the boat also who is to to Whitney was for was tied for third. Is it Mr. Portnoy? I think so. Mr. Portnoy is coming on on Friday. We're bringing him back. We're very excited. Updated or was this going off the old no PMT stats?

I got it. For all those Portnoy Whitney Titus Chris Long, top five. Wow, it's quite a Mount Rush and I heard a certain meathead friend of ours fell out of the top 10. So we're going to have to rectify that soon. Yes. Yeah, along with Stingray Steve. Yeah, we're talking about Stingray Steve. Yeah, get it back on.

No, we're going to have Russell on again. It's crazy. I felt bad about that. He's a top 10. Stingray Steve put up some numbers in the short time. Dude, like those are David Boston type numbers. He's here for like two seasons and then suit us. Barstool, not us. Yeah, the Hindenburg announcement. Did he ever do the JFK assassination?

I don't know. I don't know. Oh, my God, can you put that in? Can you put that in right here? Put that in right here. You're Stingray Steve narrating the explosion of the Hindenburg. We are back in 1937 as we're about to see the Hindenburg go down. Oh, no, the Hindenburgs caught fire.

Oh, no, the Hindenburgs caught fire. Oh, the humanity. Oh, it's awful. It just caught fire right here and it's gone down. Oh, no. That's for all the people who have maybe are new to the show who don't remember that all time moment. Because we used to have him on Monday shows

narrating whatever the biggest like SEC highlight was. But then we toss in a historical event that he could also narrate for the. Yes. Yes. Oh, my God. Look at all the. All right, let's talk some other important news, maybe the most important news of the day. Aaron Rodgers in his 16 year year career has always shown up for minicamp until today.

What happened today? He found happiness and love and I, for one, am excited for Aaron Rodgers. And I just want him to find peace. Mental health is in June. Mental health awareness month. Yeah. Well, that worked out perfectly, didn't it? Yeah, it certainly did. I actually so there was ownership released a statement today

about Aaron Rodgers because he didn't show up for the first time ever. They said, we're going to compete with who we have here. We're very content to move forward this season with Jordan and Blake as our quarterbacks. That was me that said that as ownership. Yes. But ownership did say that. And I have I have a prediction big cat. Oh, I'm in the prediction business. OK. I think that Blake Bortles could be the starting quarterback

of the Green Bay Packers this year. I do too, because everything that has been tweeted. Jordan sucks. It doesn't look good for him right now. And they might right now, Jordan Love, it seems like he's more valuable to the Packers as an asset. Yeah, as a guy to use an NBA term as a guy that they can trade for other pretend things that could become players eventually.

Yes. But like he's if he's like skying balls over receivers seven yards away from them. Yes. They might try to protect them. Start Blake Bortles, who will harness the power of Lake Superior and just go on a fucking tear at any lake that Blake is on a superior. I know it's like Michigan. Yeah, but if Blake serves, it's Blake Superior. He's going to fucking he's going to start this year.

I so I have an update on our friendship. Someone tweeted us a clip, old clip from I think it was the Atlanta Super Bowl. We had Blake in the back of a van. I think that was the damn Reno von the famous damn Reno van. One of 26, one of 26. Oh, appearances. Yes. And I said that if you are on the Packers, we can't be friends anymore. And I sent him that clip and I he said I have to play

in a game against the Bears, regular season game against the Bears before our friendship is over. And I agreed. So that will be that's the update. Friend and I will do the meme friendship over. Now friends with I don't know who else. Justin Fields. Yeah, sure. Yes. That's I think I I mean, I root first and foremost for your mental health. Big cat. No, no, that's true.

No, that's true. It's very true. I want nothing. His brain is about to fall out of his. I want nothing more in this life than to just have a content cat sitting next to me. And I have to put that aside because Blake Bortles is a friend. Yeah. And Blake Bortles, he only has a short time where he can be a success in his chosen field. Yeah, which is one of the best that you can do this until you die.

Hopefully, that's a long time in the future. But Blake Bortles has, you know, five, 10, 15 years max. More 25 to make his money 30. I have to root for a success. If he beats the Bears in a prime time game this year, that can mean like five years, forty five million dollars in his pocket. And so many t-shirts sold for us. So many t-shirts for us. So I might have to do a split jersey.

I might have to get no half my Blake Bortles faces shirt and half big cat face shirt. No, no. I don't want to think about it. Let's not think about it. Let's think about something better. Will Arch Manning surpass Peyton Eli and Archie? Oh, no. Did I steal your hot seat cool drone? I thought you were going to. That was a great ad transition opportunity.

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It always puts a smile on my face and I will retweet. I love the blue mountains, nothing like a blue mountain on a Friday. Hot sea, cool, throne, Hank. Oh, my hot seat is Peyton Manning. What? Shut up. What happened? Yeah. They ran out of chicken parm? Nope. Nope.

Today, Brad Paisley stabbed him first. First take was doing a segment. Oh, no, it's coming up. This is coming up. The screenshot said coming up. Will Arch Manning surpass Peyton, Eli and Archie to become the greatest manning yet. This is all based off a practice clip of him throwing like and doing a crazy ball flip and throwing a nice ball.

It was more than a nice ball. Well, it was Jake from 2.0. I already the ball. This is already happened to me on this show. It was better than Jake. No, it was Jake from the game. Yeah, Jake from this was. And he didn't like five times in the national championship.

Yeah. Yeah. This was. And that has poisoned my brain for. I thought he was going to be like the bills. You know, I think he's going to be competing with Josh Allen. You had that thought. I said it. I think I think I said it on the rundown that I would take Jake from number one right then after the national championship game.

Just because of the ball flip. Right. So now this is arched. This is Jake from 2.0. Arch Manning, Peyton Hanks on the hot seat. He's got a little bit more of a pedigree. Now, I like to take I like that. We're already having the reason the conversation is happening is because of the ball flip. Yes. Yes.

If he hadn't done the ball flip and done the exact same pump, fake and throw, it was a dime, though. It was in Wig of Lele. And it's like 12 years old. Younger Lele. We younger Lele. Brothers, the Clemson. Yeah, I know. I know it's the younger brother.

I just didn't know how to say it. And his dad's a beast. Yeah, his dad is a big, like a bouncer. Yeah. I think I'm all in on Arch Manning hype. Oh, I'm excited to just be a bad form. I do too. I think that's impossible expectation. I think it's literally impossible. It seems to start tanking right now for Arch Manning.

How you need to have your shit together. You need to just be absolutely dog shit in the UFO for the next three years. Sixteen, seventeen. More than that. Five years. How old is he? I think he's going to be going into his junior year of high school. So that's five. Which class of 2023?

2023. So that means two more years to college, which is probably around 16. So are we in the trustees? Yeah. He's 16. Or 17. Hedge our back here. I may have requested to follow him on Instagram.

Wow. Oh, wow. He has not accepted the request. I don't think he will accept the request. But I had to take the shot. How many followers is he at? Like a thousand. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ, big cat.

Yeah. That's grooming. Dude, I want to be one of the first like 2000. You are the guy that tweets at recruits right now. Yeah, it's different. It's different when it's Arch Manning. What do you think? Like what team right now do you think is in the best position

to draft Arch Manning? Wait, we'll say it again. What team do you think right now is in the best position to draft Arch Manning? Let's say eight years from now. I'd say the Jets always. Jets are in pride. I think that they're the leader.

Bears always. Bears and Jets. I think the Panthers could be. The Bucks will probably be there by then. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. Because they've got to, yeah. They're in the win now mode.

Although, Tom, wish you. Tom Brady could be playing. It's crazy to say, but Tom Brady could be playing against. Like, could you imagine the Monday Night Football Ratings? Tom Brady versus Arch Manning. Actually, I think it could be the Texans. The Texans might not even be a team.

Are they playing a season this week? I have no idea. I don't know. Hank just reminded or Jake reminded me they signed Mark Ingram didn't know that. They're probably like three or four running back. They're probably just not going to play football for five years. They'll come back as another expansion franchise and draft

Arch Manning. They should just become the Oilers. Yes. That would be the greatest move they ever pulled. Yeah. Like, hey, remember all the things that are happening? Oilers. They'd sell tickets this year.

And those powder blues? Yeah. That might not be. I think that's sky blue. It's not powder. It's sky blue. Is it sky? I think it's sky blue.

You got a blue card, Hank? Can we get us a Pantone? Please? So which jerseys? The Oilers. Ever heard of them? Don't remember watching. We have Wade Phillips on the show.

Things like Titan's blue, right? Because they took the colors, I think. I think it's a shade. Light blue, PMS 279, 418 FDE. Is it the same as Titans? I think it's a touch, ghost, lighter. So the Titan. Yeah, no, the Titans are dark.

Titans blue. But what about the other blue? The lighter blue. Oh, Titan's blue. There's Titan Navy and Titan's blue. They made their own color? Yeah. That's power moving.

It's kind of like UNC. It's a big time. Carolina blue. Well, I thought that was just the sky in Carolina. All right, your cool turn? My cool turn is college baseball. The fans. It's been a great, it's been an amazing spring

of all the sports having fans. Well, can you, thank you, Minci. Thank you, Minci, of course. I was going to say. He invented college baseball. Yeah, he's, well, he's the reason I started watching it. Me too. And he was right.

But what I was going to say is that I think the college baseball fans have been the craziest of all the fans I've seen so far, or at least it just feels, I think it's just because it's so tight, it's probably a smaller crowd, more packed in. But like the walk off home run in Tennessee the other night was crazy. The Arkansas home run last night was crazy.

Insane. It's a great, great atmosphere, good to turn on and just like you feel the intensity. It's a positive environment, too. I'm excited for this weekend. The ball of a medal, the ping, the ping, yeah. I'm excited for this weekend. I think it's the regional finals.

Omaha regionals. Super regional finals. No, not Omaha yet. So it's eight, two out of three series. The eight winners go to Omaha. Yes. Is that like super wildcard weekend? Kind of.

It's actually like I finally looked up the bracket because I mean, Wisconsin didn't have a baseball team. So I didn't, college baseball is just one of those sports. Like either you're really into it or you kind of see it passing and you know, I've watched when Vandy won the college world series but I looked at it and it's such a cool tournament. The fact that they play like there's four teams

in each pod and then they, you know, the losers go to one game, the winners keep going. It's fucking awesome. I'm in. Thank you, Minci. Is that it, Hank? Yeah, that's it. All set.

Denier, your other ones got taken? Not really. Okay. F1's on my cool throne too in general in life, but. Just watching it? Yeah, I just, I had him on the show and then I've been to the show since then. I finished it and I've like had a void in my life.

Feeding, I think we need to start racing. Yeah. No, seriously. I agree. Like actual cars? No, video games, bro. Okay. Meet me, come on.

Get one of those simulators? Yeah. We had one. We do have, we have one. It's not here. Oh, it's not? Nope. What happened to it?

Dude, when I was watching F1, the first thing I did was text spider was like, where's the simulator? I think it's in his house. Damn. My hot seat is the earth. The entire earth is on the hot seat. Because you see Jeff Bezos is going to outer space. Yeah.

With his brother. Yeah. The ultimate bros divorce party. I love it. Like we're just gonna go for a road trip where the stars hang out together. I think the earth's actually in the hot seat for all that because it's just, it's bad news whenever the richest person

on earth decides to leave for a little bit. Like, cause he could actually destroy or shut down most of the earth. What better, there will never be a better time for Jeff Bezos to disable all of his companies that we depend on for everything than when he's in outer space with his brother pissed off at his ex-wife.

That's true. It's an issue. So I have a solution in case the earth doesn't come back or in case he leaves the earth shuts us down and he comes back afterwards. Yeah, but if he leaves the earth, isn't that like international waters? You're gonna steal his money?

Well, he's got a lot of it. Did you see that story? He's not paying taxes. Almost made me put a rose in my avatar. Yeah. I think we should eat Jeff Bezos. Yes. Would you rather be Jeff Bezos or have $50 million

in bank account today? $50 million. I don't wanna be there. Jeff Bezos is a fucking dork. He's bald. Yeah, and he's also got the whole world hates him. Yeah. Right.

I do think- I know he doesn't have like- The rice. No, I know, I know. I know. Like 20 bags of it. It is very funny when the rose avatar people like tweet, like give all your money away.

Like, he doesn't have cash, like billions of dollars. It's all the stock and everything that he owns. It's not, he's not, if he liquidated everything, it would actually crash the whole world. Yeah, he can't do that. But he also has access to get like a loan for whatever he wants at any given time. So he does have kind of access

to almost unlimited money. Well, anyone would, but my point is, why doesn't Jeff, like if I saw that article from Jeff, like being like Jeff Bezos doesn't pay taxes, I just like, you know what? Shut the fuck up, everyone. Just write a check for Billy to Uncle Sam. Be like, you guys shut up.

Yeah, so I think, here's an idea. Jeff Bezos, when he comes back, I think we all hate him, right? Everybody, for the most part, kind of hates him. I'm actually more apathetic, I don't really care. I don't like about him. I kind of hate him. When he comes back, what we should do is just pretend

like we don't know who he is. Because he didn't buy the football team. Yeah, but like. But he could buy the Bears. How great of a prank would that be on him though? What? When he comes back to earth and everybody just agrees, we're gonna pretend like we don't know who Jeff Bezos is.

Yeah. I think that whatever happened to him in outer space fucked with his brain and like, I don't know, like found a wormhole, he comes back, no one knows who he, he'd probably be happier. You know what? He'd be doing him a favor. You know, one of them bootlickers would probably fucking

tell him what the gig is up, you know? That's true. Yeah, I actually don't really have a strong opinion. I think he's just a dork who's got a shitload of money. He probably should pay his taxes. I'm not a big fan. My cool throne is Australia. Australia is on the cool throne.

Did you see the video that I put up earlier today of the kid at the cricket match? Eating the watermelon? This is one of my favorite videos, I think I've ever seen on the internet. So this kid goes to a cricket match in Melbourne. It's this kid at a cricket match in Australia. He brings an entire watermelon with him

and he starts eating it. Like he bites through the rind and he eats the entire watermelon by himself, in what I say entire, I mean like the green, the white part. Everything. Everything about the watermelon he eats. And it's a huge dub for Australia

because I feel like Australia's lost some of that. Like we don't give a fuck aura about them. It's been largely swagger jacked by Russia and to a certain extent, Florida recently where all the crazy stories are coming out of these other places. And they used to come out of Australia. This put Australia back on the map

as like the weirdest people on the planet. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, it was an unbelievable video. It was absolutely incredible. Eating the rind. Yeah. My grandmother told me that it was poisonous

to eat the rind growing up. Did you guys? Scared the hell out of me. I always thought that if you ate the watermelon seeds, you'd grow a watermelon in your stomach. That part's true. Yeah. And then the gum thing too.

But Hank dispelled that because he swallowed every piece of gum he's ever chewed his entire life. Just a reminder for everyone out there. We should bring that up. Set a reminder, Jake, for three months from now. Just to remind everyone that anytime Hank has chewed a piece of gum, he has swallowed said piece of gum. Yeah.

Yeah. It's candy. I bought like a shitload of gum. When you, when you, where's, where's gum? Candy section. Well, I bought a shitload of gum. That's not always true, Hank. Yeah, it is.

Not always in the candy section. Pretty much. I bought a shitload of gum. If you couldn't, if you couldn't swallow it, they put it in the tobacco section. How about that? I sometimes swallow dips a bit. I bought a shitload of gum last like two months ago.

Hank swallowed eight every single piece. You said help yourself. Yeah. And you helped yourself. You told me to. I know. But I forgot you ate it. I wouldn't have said that because that's bad for you.

Next bet we do, it should be like Hank has, if Hank loses, he has to survive on just eating gum for two days. He could do it easily, easily. How many calories are there actually like nutritional, is there nutritional value in gum? Probably not. It was like, it's like 10 calories.

Or some sugar. You can survive a couple of days at least, yeah. Definitely do it. Speaking of future reminders, I'm looking at my calendar. We got something up coming up in three weeks that you told me to do a while ago. What is it? It's make video, oh no, what did we say that?

Make video of Big Cat and PFT sucking their own dicks. I don't remember the context. I don't think that that's something we said that we would do. Don't want to put it in. I think I would remember that. I'm sure someone will listen and remind us. Oh, because it's six nine. No, no, no, it's for three weeks.

It's in three weeks. Oh, yeah, that doesn't make much sense. I was like, oh yeah, the date. That means I don't give myself that. So I'll get help us out here. What? I don't know. That would be 69.

Would that be like? That would be a zero. Yeah. It would be zero. Or it's actually kind of a nine. It's the snake eating its own tail. Yeah. We'll see.

Yeah, if someone let us know what that is. All right, my hot seat is the doubters because LeBron James had his corny Instagram posts that we all were waiting for. It was a scene from The Gladiator, which came out 25 years ago. It won an award. It won an award.

He wrote, promise you I will. Count me out if you want to. The man in the arena, the kid from Akron. I like that he put the man in the arena on that. In all time speech, if you're just trying to deflect any sort of criticism, be like, I'm the person that risks it all. I'm the guy that's going up against the Goon Squad, not you.

Yes. So, well, let's just do a quick straw poll. Are you counting them out? No. Yes. You counting LeBron out? No. Are we talking about past LeBron or present LeBron?

Are you counting them out? Not yet. As a Robin, not as a Batman. I want to count them out. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. You'll regret that. I'm gonna count them out. You'll rue that day.

Promise, promise you I will. What? I'll admit something, big cat. Yeah? You miss him? Yes. No, not that. I don't miss him. I'm happy he's eliminated.

But he, I've been seeing so much slander on LeBron. I had a moment earlier where I felt a little bad. I was like, he's getting crushed. Cause we were talking about the MVP and it was like LeBron should have had five MVPs or whatever and everyone was just like, just destroying him saying he could. His shoes suck?

Yeah, shoes suck. He doesn't show up in the regular season. He can't win the playoffs. I was like, I kind of feel bad for all. You've been, you've been incected into defending him. That's incredible. I just think what you did, yeah. My, my, how have you turned tables?

It was a moment of, I guess, I don't know, fragility. Yeah, real weakness. Are you going to become a LeBron stand? Absolutely not. This is how it started for me. If Ronnie goes to Duke though, all bets are off. Hey, Andy owns the Red Sox. This is a gateway drug.

You're very, you are like one year away from becoming a LeBron stand. I'm just mature, I guess. Yeah. Unbelievable. You had a pre-woke period about LeBron. Unbelievable. Got a lot of tweets you're going to have to clean up.

Oh my God. Wow. Wow. It'd be great if you wrote like a whole thing, like I thought one way. I've changed. Well, I don't, I don't, I agree. You just felt bad.

Yeah. I've changed the way I think I've matured. I was like, it's got to suck to be LeBron and just get like your season's over and you're just getting like your whole entire career destroyed. And all he's ever done is just tried to be a great player and a great role model and a great father. If Space Jam 2 is really bad,

it's going to be a long summer. Yeah. Yeah. I hope for your sake that it's awesome because actually, no, no. I heard the villain is trying to steal his Instagram followers and that's like the main plot of the movie, so. What?

That seems like you fell for an onion tweet. I think so too, but also I was like, I don't know. It sounds so ridiculous. It just might be true. What does it come out? July. We got to go. We all got to go to the movie theater to do a review.

That should be a special podcast. What would you review? July 16th. July 16th. What day of the week is that? Believe Friday. No, come on LeBron. Do movies come out on Fridays?

We'll go Thursday. We'll fucking dedicate it. We'll go Thursday night. We'll go late Thursday night and we'll do, you know what we should do? We should live podcast during the movie. That'll be nice. All right, my cool throne is Skip Bayless.

I don't know how we missed this on Sunday, so it's kind of hot seat us, but Skip Bayless, if you think that he's like over the hill, if you think he's expired, you're so wrong. Did you see this tweet on Sunday? I'm shocked that we missed it. I see every Skip Bayless. He said, I was wrong about being wrong about the Clippers.

Yeah. In a shock to me, I was ultimately right. We never talked about it. Yeah, it's amazing. Like Skip Bayless, his only crime was being so right. Now they have a very good shot at winning it all as I originally predicted. I was wrong about being wrong about the Clippers.

In a shock to me, I was ultimately right. Well, no, he was right because he was saying that the Clippers are gonna go further than the Lakers. And he probably only made that take so that he could say that the Clippers are better than LeBron, but nonetheless, he did predict that, and then once they fell behind, he reversed his take.

Unbelievable. And then it's well known that if you reverse a take, you can always revert back to your first take that you had because that's your initial one. Yeah. I love it, I love it. All right, Jake, you got a quick hot seat cool throne? Yeah, quickly.

Hot seat is running the bases, player on the Pirates, hit a home run, Cabrion Hayes, Miss First Base, they called him out, and to relate to the Barstil Sportsbook, PFT's Pirates Booty Bet, it's fading the Pirates and Team Total every night. Tonight, it was under three and a half runs. How many runs? They lost five three.

Oh, wow. That only won the Pirates Booty. Oh my God, I love it, thank you. I love the Pirates Booty. Bet responsibly. Listen, bet responsibly, but the system is working this year. Yeah. The system is working, it got off to a bumpy start,

but we stay the course, trust the process, Pirates Booty's a winning bet. And then a cool throne, Nick Saban, extension, not going anywhere, everyone else is screwed. Yep. Yeah, we already knew that. That's pretty fair. But Dere Col now.

Unless Dabo, oh Dere Col, yeah, you're a Yankees fan, oh no, we're doing that segment. We're doing that segment, yeah, I forgot. All right, let's get to our interview. Let's get to our interview with coach Wade Phillips. This interview is brought to you by our great friends over at Noom. Noom is an all-encompassing wellness program.

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Future Hall of Famer, I'll just throw that out there because you can't tell the story of football without Wade Phillips. He also has a podcast called The Overtime Podcast with his son, Wes Phillips, who's a coach for the Rams, comes out every Thursday. You can find it everywhere.

You get podcast coach. Very excited to have you on. Dude, I read a story that you don't like being called coach. You like just being called Wade. Is that true? Well, yeah, with the players, you know, I always kind of make a joke with them, but, you know, with the players,

they call everybody coach, you know? Well, I wanted to be a little more personal than that. And so they, I wanted to call me coach because that's respect, but, you know, my name, I wanted to call my name because it's more personal. So I, most all the players, coach, call me coach Wade. Yeah, and if someone called you, a player called you coach,

you just respond and call him player, right? Right, because I wanted to make the emphasis that, you know, it's kind of my little joke, but, you know, say, hey coach, I say, hey player, you know? So after that, they call me, hey coach Wade. So, you know, I'd call them, hey, I didn't call them player Jim, I just call them Jim or whoever.

Yeah, I like it. I want to get this out of the way right up front because it occurred to me today that I'm not sure if you're officially retired or not. And I hope that the answer is no, I hope that you're not retired because I think that football is a better place when coach Wade is still around.

So are you officially retired? Are you looking for a job right now? Well, there's no jobs available right now. So I would like to, I think I can help somewhere sometime, but I don't know, you know, it's not up to me whether I'm retired or not. It's up to somebody hiring me. Okay.

Because I'm still available, but, you know, it's not looking good because I hadn't been in the league for a while. Well, I had an idea. I don't know if this would ever work or not, but you always see like the proliferation of really high scoring offenses in college football. And I've always wondered, like,

if you get a Mississippi State or like a Mike Leach offense where they're scoring, you know, 50 points a game, hopefully, and if they just have, you know, an average defense, would that be like, would that even be possible given the style of offense that he runs if you were to go back to college and, you know, team up with one of these spread offense guys?

That's funny because I was talking to Mike Leach before he went to the Mississippi State. So, but I didn't know how to go in there. But, you know, college is so, I mean, it's so much tougher than pro football. It used to be the other way around as far as defense is concerned. I mean, now, like I say, teams are scoring 40 points

and they're getting beat by 20 points. So it's a tough league now for defensive coaches. I think I could help colleges, you know, cut down on scoring some, but I'm really more familiar with pro football. So, you know, you coach for over 40 years in the NFL and you've seen all the changes in the rules and how the game is played.

Was there a certain point, a certain rule where you were like, all right, well, now this is becoming almost impossible for us to get consistent stops, even though you continue to do so with your defenses? No, I mean, there, rules came in certain. The rules for safety, certainly, you know, that's a good thing that they've been doing for a while. It usually helps off, it's a quarterback, but that's okay.

But, you know, I understand that, you know, not hitting receivers in the head and defenseless receivers and things like that. So I didn't worry about all that. You know, the one that hurt the defense probably the most was early, not early in my career, but when they took away, being able to chuck a guy down field,

you know, hit a guy down field only within five yards. You know, that took even the Mel Bluntz and people like that who were so great, took them out of it because, you know, he was so great, he'd knock them down at 10 yards or 15 yards down the field. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, it's an offensive game overall. I mean, they want more score and so I understand that.

And you've coached some of the best names just in the history of the game, some of the best players, especially in terms of pass rushers. You coach Bruce Smith, Reggie White, J.J. Watt, Vaughn Miller, Aaron Donald. I'm not gonna do the thing where I ask you who the best player is that you have ever coached.

I will. You can do that later. Yeah, yeah. I'll ask it this way. Which one of those players would be the maddest at you if you didn't say their name as the best player? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, probably all the guys that are alive now,

Bruce Smith, all of them, but I think they're great because they have so much pride in themselves. Some people say ego, but I think they always, they thought they were the best, but they also played, tried to be better than that all the time. And I have said before, Reggie White was, he had the greatest year that I've ever coached.

And in that he had 21 sacks, which was the record for a long time. But that was in a 12 game season because we had a strike and we only, our record players didn't play the first four games. So in 12 games, he had 21 sacks and nobody's, I mean, I don't think anybody's gonna ever come close to that. Yeah, Reggie White's one of those guys that I think history,

and it hasn't forgotten, but I think younger fans probably don't realize just how incredible he was. I just remember Reggie White's strength. Like he would just toss guys. Did you, would you marvel at that in practice? Would you have to tell him, hey, like take it easy in practice cause you're gonna get someone hurt

because you're that much stronger than everyone. Reggie wasn't a practice guy now. Okay. You had to gear him up a little bit to get him to practice. You know, he loved playing the game like all of them, but he was kind of a joker and kind of having fun in practice. He didn't, and he had to get him a little mad, which he didn't, it wasn't his nature really in ball game,

but somebody got him mad in the game. We were all excited because he'd fix the run over to him, like you say. Did you, did you ever like have anything that you could try to get him mad or did it have to be from the other team? You know, Buddy Ryan was good at that too, you know, cause I was with Buddy and Buddy would, you know,

mentioned to him when he came off the field. Boy, that guy's kicking your rear, you know, so ready to go and prove it the next play. So just think like that with him, you know, cause he took everything serious. Yeah. So all right. So I'll give it easier question that you can answer without hurting anyone's feelings.

So I've read a lot about your coaching style and the thing that a lot of the players say is that you gave them the freedom to trust their instincts. And maybe if it's not exactly the play they should be making, but they can trust their instincts and get to the quarterback, go make it. You said, hey, you have the freedom to make a mistake here, but I know that you have the talent to like, you know,

make the play. So who that you coached had the best instincts, just pure, that guy knew exactly like where things were going in almost like a sixth sense. Yeah. All of them had that instinct that, you know, rushing the passer to go inside or outside and make the right decision, you know? I mean, all of them had that.

That's why they were great players and great pass rushes. And they all had a great sense of finding the football, you know, where it was on running plays and pass plays. But I will say this, one of the guys I coached in the last several years was JJ Watt. And we let JJ, we let him determine where he was going to go by the formation. You know, if it's a certain formation,

he would go inside or outside if it's a different formation. And if they motion and did things like that, he made those adjustments. And we kind of played off of him. Normally, the linebacker plays off the defensive lineman, you know, as to where he feels. But we just did the opposite with him. He's one of the few guys I've ever had that, you know, because you're down in a, you know, a three point stance

and it's hard to see down there for one thing to see what the formation is or the motion, things like that. But he realized all that stuff. We utilized that with him and said, hey, you know, they're getting this, they're running this, you go this way, you know, and we'll put you in the middle of it. Or they're in this formation, rush the passers. We don't care about the run, things like that.

And he was so good at that, probably the best I've been around about just doing that. You know, most of them, you have to tell them you do this job and they do it and they use their instincts to maybe run around the block and make a play. But we told him in the first place, decipher what the formation is and then go play. And he did a great job of that. Yeah. You mentioned your time.

They spend Philadelphia there with Buddy Ryan. Were the Ryan boys, the Ryan twins hanging around practice ever? Was somebody in charge of looking after them, making sure they didn't get in too much trouble? You needed somebody to look after them, you know. Yeah, one, they, I think they were in college, you know, they were younger. They were in college or maybe I think out of the high school, but they were, I remember one night Buddy had to go down and they supposedly beat up

a guy in an elevator or something. He had to go straight in and out. Or messed with a guy anyway. And so Buddy made him, we were at training camp. So Buddy made him go outside and sit down on a rock out there for a while. Which one was, uh, was the bigger troublemaker in your opinion? Who was the one getting the other one in trouble? Was it, was it Rob?

I don't know. Both of them are good at it. So they hadn't changed. They're, they're great guys. Yeah. Yeah. They are. We've had, uh, we've had Rob on the show. Yeah. Rob came on. Yeah. Great time. And they're a lot like their dad.

They're really smart as far as football is concerned. Yeah. So speaking of dads, your, your dad was a legend as well. You know, you, you credit a lot of who you are as a person to your dad. Bump Phillips. What's the, I heard a story. He borrowed a racehorse one time. What's that story? Yeah, that's the, you know, when he was coaching in high school,

he just actually just started coaching and he had been in the war. He'd been in the Marines, came back and got married. And then he was, he was, uh, starting to coach and, uh, he was like the B team coach. So he wouldn't make it much money. A long story short, it wouldn't make it much money. Well, I, my, my mom was pregnant with me. And so, uh, you know, the medical bills were coming up as far as me,

when, when, when my mom was going to have me. Well, he was working on a ranch in the summer. He worked on the ranch down in South Texas. And, uh, because he code, you know, you didn't make much money, uh, coaching. So he worked on a ranch in the summer. Well, I was born in the summer, uh, but on this ranch, uh, they were pasturing a horse, uh, or they passed through several horses. And one of them was, one of them was a racehorse and it was a quarter horse.

If people are familiar with, you know, they're not the, they're the, they run the quarter horses run a quarter mile. You know, there's a short, shorter distance race, race horses. And, uh, but this horse, they were pasturing and had just set the world's record in the 400, uh, uh, you know, meter, uh, meter. Now, but I mean, 400 yard, uh, race. And so he, he was the fastest quarter horse in the world and set the world record. Well, they had him pasturing out on this ranch that daddy was working at.

And so my dad decided, uh, they had what they call match races over in Louisiana, where you could take your horse over there and race against another horse, you know, and they bet on, you know, but it was, uh, you know, it was just guys standing on the sideline pick, you know, betting against each other. And, and so they said, well, let's just take him over there. And my dad said, you know, I don't have a lot of money. I got, you know, maybe a hundred dollars, but I'm going to bet all my money on, on the horse because they knew he's going to win.

And so, so they take him over to Louisiana this match race. And then, uh, uh, first of all, they didn't want them, they didn't want them to know that, you know, this was, uh, they're bringing a ringer. Right. So, uh, the horse had some markings. They did, you know, people that are in the horse business, no, no marking, but he had a, like had a pain on his, on his forehead, you know, and white. And so they, they did the brown shoe polish on it, you know,

you know, so nobody recognized the horse somehow. And then, uh, they told the jarg, they had a jockey, a guy that was, that was riding the horse. They said, pull him back. Don't, you know, we don't want to win by, you know, so much that people think we brought in a ringer, you know, and so, and so they, of course, they had the race and they take off and the horse takes off. Obviously wins easy, uh, and, and wins by long ways. And they were, they were worried about that.

So one guy, one guy was running about picking up the bets and taking the money from the guys on the sideline. He was taking the money and my dad and the other guy ran to the horse, you know, the horse is sweating now. And so he, he started to lose him. So they're putting the blanket over him and they're running him into the trailer and they got out of Louisiana as quick as they could. And so my dad doubled his money and paid for me. So that's, that's great.

That's a great story. I feel like everybody should have a story where they have to high tail it out of Louisiana. Yeah. Just head for the, that's, that's a great story. And your dad was like an all time, just a cool looking guy, you know, the iconic look of the jacket, the big cowboy hat. And I feel like a lot of us when we're growing up and we see our dads, when we're kids, we're like, oh, my, my dad looks dorky.

He looks like a dad, but your dad like had an undeniably cool look about him. Did you realize when you're growing up, like my dad's a cool guy, or did it take the benefit of hindsight, get a couple of years away from him to be like, that's a great look that he's got. Yeah, I think, uh, yeah, both things. I, you know, I mean, he, he, he grew up working on ranch, you know, working on ranches. So he was a real cowboy or real Western person. And he knew all that stuff, but he, he loved coaching and he loved ranching.

So, uh, yeah, as I got older, you know, of course I wouldn't have, I didn't have the cowboy look, especially during the time that I grew up. So, uh, but, uh, but getting, getting away from him for a while and then coming back and then coaching with him, you know, he's the only coach in history. And I'm sure he's the only one that ever will where a cowboy had cowboy boots on the sideline. But I thought it was pretty neat because that was him, you know, that was who we wore when, when I went over to his house, he was wearing the same stuff. So, uh, uh, but it was needed.

He got to do that. Uh, so the, I hate to bring up bad memories, but the music city miracle, you were on the other side, we, Jeff Fisher is a friend of ours. We've had him explain it from his point of view, from your point of view. It was that totally afford forward lateral. What was going through your mind when that all went down? Yeah, we had, we had an instant replay. So I, and I was standing there on the sideline, you know, right across from where they were

making the play where he was throwing the ball back, throwing the ball forward. So, uh, I thought, I still thought when they scored, I thought they, you know, they're going to call it back. And it was close after looking at it, you know, uh, it was close. But if you ever look at the, if you ever look at the film, which it was filmed in, you know, he threw it from behind the line and the guy called it in front of a line. So I don't, I don't see how it couldn't have been forward. But it was, it was our mistake really that we didn't, we didn't, you know,

we didn't play the play right. We should have kicked it deep and, and, uh, covered the field or if we're going to kick it short, we should have kicked it more to the sideline where they couldn't, where they couldn't throw it back like that. So, uh, it was still our fault overall. Yeah. So, uh, you, you've been a head coach interim or head coach for six different teams. It's actually the most in NFL history. Uh, which do you like more though? Do you like being a head coach or a defensive coordinator more, uh, from like a coaching and life perspective? Well, I mean, you always liked being the boss, I guess, but, uh, I've always said,

and I think it's true. I, you know, I was a better defensive coordinator than I was a head coach. And so that's, uh, I think that's been my niche really, or has been, uh, when I coached in the league, I had, uh, we, we didn't have a terrible record. I always say I was bad head coach, but you weren't, I didn't have a terrible hit. I had a winning record. Yeah. It's pretty good. Which is, yeah, which is decent, but the thing I didn't do as a head coach that I got to do as an assistant coach was, was win a lot of playoff games. You know, so, uh, I had a winning record in both, both areas, but, but we won a lot of playoff, more playoff games and of course the Super Bowl,

as an assistant coach. Yeah. What about being an interim head coach? Is there, is there something that you liked about stepping into the interim role? Because to me, it seems like it's kind of a different, no, it's got a different skill set, right? Being an interim guy and then being a full-time head coach, like you got to bring some sort of a spark and you hear about like Dan Campbell, when he was an interim coach, he'd blast Metallica and bury a football at midfield. You have to do something to like, to turn the page a little bit, uh, and get the players ready to go. Was that a challenge for you stepping into that interim role?

Yeah. It's very hard to do that. I think, uh, to change what you've been doing in the, you know, the whole season, the whole off season, the, you know, you've lost a lot of games. That's why that's why you become the interim head coach. So that season is not going well. And then you take over, uh, with only a few games left, it's, uh, or at least in my case, there's only a few games left every, every time I did it. So, uh, it's, uh, you just try to get them to play as hard as they can. And yeah, if you could do something where, you know, maybe they changed their attitude a little bit, but, uh, it's hard to change what they've been throughout the whole season in a few games. And I think it's tough on the interim coach to do that.

Yeah. You seem like a pretty straightforward guy too. So that's why I was kind of curious, did you have any like firing up strategies to get the guys going, to get them, you know, ready to turn that page when you stepped in as an interim guy? Well, I always told him, Hey, that you just, you just got the last coach fired and I don't want you to get me fired. So let's get the plan better, you know, we're going to get back to wait in a second. But before we do, I'll talk to you guys about manscaped support for today's episode comes from manscaped father's day is just around the corner and you probably need a gift for a hairy dad. Make your dad proud this year, get him and yourself,

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over and over with them. And so they, so they know that. And I had several that I used overall, but, but the one I always use was when we played the game, when we're going to play the game the night before the game, we go over thing, everything night before the game. And then the last thing I'd say to them is, Hey, mistakes are mine. You know, and what I want them to do is not worry about mistakes. And if they make a mistake, just go ahead and keep playing harder and harder. And in fact, I said that so often, we were playing in Super Bowl with Denver. And the night before the game, you know, I gave him a speech and said, Hey, you know, we got to play as hard as you can, so forth, so forth. And said, Okay, let's go get them. And I started to leave the room. And,

and then I hear these voices say, Coach, Coach, what about the mistakes? And I said, Okay, the mistakes are mine. And they all share it. I wrote that one down because I love that one. I, so that was the one I wanted to bring up, but I'm happy you said it. The other one that I loved was, you'd say every winner is just a loser that didn't quit. I think that's a great saying. It's something you believe in, you know, I mean, and again, the good thing about coaching is you can influence people, you know, I mean, when you talk to them every day, and then you talk to them before a game, and it's important that they want to try to do well, well, then you get, you get to influence them and your way of

thinking, so to speak, in a lot of ways, not everything, but certainly in a lot of ways. Now, they didn't, I didn't influence them to like country music or anything like that. Did you try? No, my dad did, but it didn't really work even then. He played them and they turned it off. You mentioned the Super Bowl 2015, the Panthers, Broncos, did you know going into that game that you had to get a defensive touchdown or you had to create a certain amount of turnovers to win that game because Peyton Manning, as great as he was, was obviously limited at that point in his career, and you knew that you had to have a good defensive performance. So I'm curious what your goals were going into that game if you were going to win from

a defensive standpoint. Well, that was our whole season, really. I mean, we went into every game thinking we needed to play really well defensively, not because of the offense, just, you know, it was our job to play, to win ball games, and, you know, and Oswater played half the season too. I mean, Peyton was hurt half the season, and, you know, I've never given a team an out, you know. And so I've always said, hey, to win the game, we have to give up less points than their defense, you know, less points than their defense does. So if we lost the game, it wasn't because our offense didn't play good enough, it's because we didn't play good enough. And so that was always my philosophy and always has been because it's easy to point the finger on the other side, because

like I say, Peyton didn't have a great year. I mean, he led the NFL in the interceptions, and he only played seven games. So he didn't have a great year, but he's a great player, and he was a big influence on our team and helped win the games that we need to win, certainly. So speaking about that Super Bowl, the arrival of Wade Phillips Twitter account, which I love, really came out when you visited the White House and you gave us all a tour from your point of view. I especially loved just the single picture of the lawn and it just said lawn. That was the caption. Just letting everyone know. And then like the red room, it just said red room. It was half of the red room. What has been like you tweet all your own tweets, right? I assume.

Yeah, I'm afraid so. No, it's great. And so have like, what made you get into it? And like, I love it. I think I think you're a great count to follow. And you really show like your personality and sense of humor. And I love when any athlete or coach does that. Have you enjoyed it? Or is it like, have you, because most people get on Twitter and eventually they start hating it? Yeah, well, it's not me hating it. Sometimes haters hate you. And I learned a lot of things that not to say too. But I actually started it when I got to be the head coach of the Cowboys. There was so much, and Twitter was coming out then. And I thought, well, this is a good way to get to the fans, to speak to the fan. Yeah, press conferences and all that. But it's

you know, it's just coach speak, all that really. So I thought, you know, you know, I just put on there, hey, we cage the bears or something like that, you know, and the fans love that, you know, they love that kind of stuff. And or, you know, we're, we're excited about this game or whatever, you know, which was true. So I started doing it then and just kind of stuck with it. But like I say, you know, I made a few mistakes by, you know, saying things I probably shouldn't have, especially about Green Bay. They, their fans really get mad at you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you got to learn about the like button too, because people look up what tweets you're liking on there too. I saw that there was a little snafu with your ring that you

got from the Super Bowl. Did you get that fixed? They misspelled your name on your Super Bowl ring. Yeah, they certainly did. They didn't misspell my name. They had the wrong name. So it says, it didn't say Coach Phillips, it said Coach Peters. Which, you know, I might have liked it one time in my life, but that wasn't it. So they, one of the guys, alphabetically, they, you know, they switched it somehow. One of the guys that worked there, he got his regular ring. I got the wrong, wrong name. So I wanted to try to keep it. They wouldn't let me do it. So I had to send it back to him and they, but they, I'll say that this one, they got it back and got me a new one pretty quickly.

You mentioned the Cowboys. We haven't had, we've never had a Cowboys coach on. How much, how much did you dread Jerry's press conference after games? Jerry's press conference? Yes. Oh, well, I know. I mean, Jerry, Jerry's going to say what he's going to say. And, you know, that's just part of being the coach there. You already know that. So, but also Jerry, you know, Jerry is so much different in that, you know, he's a general manager and, you know, you expect general managers to say things and be quoted in the paper and so forth. But for some reason, since he's the owner, you know, nobody's, they always look at him as the owner saying something, but he's really saying stuff as a general manager. Could you sense his presence when he was down on

the sidelines, when he was doing the, the Jerry Jones thing? No, he was looking down on sidelines when we were winning at the end of the game. So, he went down there when we were losing. You have a DVD. It's called coach's choice DVD. I have to ask a really random question, but the cover of the DVD has like a super dangerous tackle on it. What, why did you pick that? Oh, I, that's a super dangerous tackle. Yeah. The guys, the guys got his, his head down. Oh, yeah. Right on the side. It's like a, it's like a picture of what not to do in a football field. No, yeah. No, when I did, when I did the, the DVD, this was a long time ago. A friend of mine had worked with a guy out in California, Jim Peterson, who, who wrote a book

for Bill Walsh, but anyway, he does the DVDs. And so they asked me to do it. So I went out there and did that. I thought maybe it was your sense of humor coming out like, Hey, here's, coach Phillips being like, here's how not to tackle like, here's, here's an instructional DVD on how to play defense with the worst tackle ever on the cover. No, no, I didn't even realize that. So I have to call them to, hey, check on the picture. If you teach every other player how to tackle poorly, then only the guys that play for you know how to tackle the correct. Here, I'll show you zero. Let's see. Kind of a genius move. Yeah, let's get, let me see if I can get it up in the, uh, I think this, I think you'll be able to see it.

Oh, yeah. Who's going to get the lowest, right? Yeah. Does low man win? Is that a low man win every time? I love it. Um, yeah, right. Your, uh, your other Superbowl parents recently here with the Rams, I know that it didn't turn out the way that you would like to ultimately, but you only gave up 13 points to the Patriots at a Superbowl has, has that sunk in to the point where you can like look back on that game and be proud of the performance that, that you had at least individually as a coach and as your defensive unit went out there and performed. Yeah. I mean, you always feel like you're proud of what, whatever they did, you know, I mean, even though we, you know, I gave it the most points in the, in a little loss in the Superbowl

when, uh, when I was at Denver the first time and we lost to the 49ers and they scored 55 points. So I gave the most points ever in the Superbowl and I, in a loss and then I gave it the least points ever in the Superbowl with that 13 loss. So both those games are losses, you know, that's the way it goes. What was, uh, what was it like coaching, uh, under Sean McVeigh with the age difference? Was there ever a moment where you're like, man, I've been, I've been coaching. You literally were coaching in the NFL for longer than he's been alive. Yeah. I mean, I, you know, I, I said it when I first, first got the job, I asked him if I could say it, but and I said it when I first got the job, but, you know, we're the only staff that had

one coach on, on medic, on, uh, Medicare and the, and the other coach and they, they care. So, but you guys got, I mean, you obviously went to the Superbowl. You had a successful relationship. Um, you know, was it ever weird to just sit there and be like, Hey, I've, I've seen all this stuff, but he, I mean, everyone knows coach McVeigh is obviously so advanced and such an exceptional coach. Is that really what it is? Like age doesn't matter. He's certainly special in that way. You know, we always say when we get older, age, age is just a number. It doesn't make a difference, but, but he's one of those when he's younger and it doesn't make a difference because he's, uh, he knows, he knows a lot of football. He's got a great sense

for, uh, communication with the players and coaches and everybody. So he's, he's a great, great, uh, they asked me about him being a great young coach. He's just a great coach. Yeah. We were talking to, uh, to coach Fisher not too long ago about, uh, working with your defensive coordinators in practice, especially if you have a young quarterback or rookie quarterback even, um, sometimes he'd be teamed up with Dr. Heat, Greg Williams. And you'd have to try to tell Greg, Hey, maybe lay off the heat a little bit. We're trying to work on some things with our rookie. Is that something that you had consciously in your head when you'd be, um, sending your defense out there in practice? If you have a young quarterback, would you intentionally try to

give him certain types of looks or lay off other types of looks so that he could progress as well as, you know, like, cause you want to have your defense prepared for the game, but you also want to make sure that your, you know, your star young quarterback is progressing at, at the right pace. Yeah. Usually, usually in the off season, we would go, you know, one against one, but, you know, once you get in the preseason and so forth, you really, you really, I don't like the ones to go against the ones cause I want somebody to win, you know, so I like the one defense going against the two, uh, two offense and vice versa when I was a head coach. And then, uh, and I think that's the way most people do it. I mean, you don't want to, yeah, you don't want to run, run a young

quarterback for sure, uh, having him in a situation where he's going against a veteran defense that you know, gives him all kinds of problems at practice. So who was the, uh, hardest offensive player to game plan against? Where it could be quarterback, running back, wide receiver. Who's the guy that when you think back, like that guy, I just couldn't figure it out cause he was just so talented and so exceptional. Uh, well, I mean, all the great quarterbacks was, I mean, you know, his time rating is the first one. I mean, gee, you know, he, he's going to know what you're in all the time and, and you know, Peyton Manning before, before he was on my team and then when he was on my team at practice, he, you know, he would, he would work with the scout team every

once in a while, especially when he was hurt that year, he was coming back and we'd want to see certain looks, you know, and he would audible in practice to stop us. You know, so, uh, those kind of guys, I mean, they're, they're so good that, you know, they're, they're so hard to play against, you know, uh, yeah. Norm Van Brocklin was really tough. I go way back with a lot of great ones. Yeah. Blake Bortles. Tell me about game planning against Blake Bortles. Yeah. Well, we had Blake, uh, you know, I played against him when I was coaching with the Texans and, uh, a real athletic guy, you know, that's, I mean, in practice, you know, they have to throw the ball all the time. They don't really run with it. So working against him

in practice, uh, you know, you didn't have to worry about him running with football. But when you played against him in game, you know, the guy's athletic enough to, you know, if it wasn't there, he'd run for first down. So, uh, you know, these running quarterbacks that we're getting more and more of now, uh, uh, you know, that it's a different, a different playing game plan and, and, and hard to work against in practice because you don't see it. Yeah. I think Blake actually has the highest yards per carry of any quarterback, at least in the last 10 years, right? Yeah. He's like the ultimate dual threat guy. How involved were you in choosing who the, uh, who the scout team quarterback was going to be for the offense, depending on who you're going

to be matched up against the next week? Uh, it's, you know, as long as it isn't the first team quarterback, I mean, they're going to, we'll put somebody there, you know, we put wide receivers there. If they, you know, could throw a little bit and run with it, you know, just to give us the look every once a while or running back. If you hadn't to play quarterback in college or something like that. So you mentioned the quarterbacks that can move and do all these things in today's game. Um, this just popped in my head. The instant classic, the Monday night football game Rams versus Chiefs. How much did that suck for you? Because everyone was like, that was the greatest game ever. It probably wasn't great to be the defensive coordinator in that game, even though there were

defensive touchdowns that were scored. Yeah. We scored two touchdowns on defense and I don't know, we sacked him a bunch of times and then we intercepted what three times or something like that. So, and what I've always said with my guys, you still got to play good enough to win, you know, when, when it came down to it, we had to make the stops or even at the end of the game, they had the ball at the end of the game and they could win the game. We stopped and we got an intercept. And so, uh, you know, when you, when you shut somebody out, that's great, but it's just, you come down to the same deal. If you give up less points than their defense gives up, you know, uh, then you're going to win the game. And I don't want them ever, you know,

be having a quote, bad game and worry about all that. I want them worried about winning the game, somehow winning the game. And if, if they, you know, if they scored 50 points already, so what, you know, we've got to stop them this last series and we did. So, uh, you know, yeah, I know how to, I know how to beat my homes. That's for sure. I like that though, because I think that's four. Yeah. I mean that, that obviously was such a crazy game up and down, but it probably speaks to you as a players coach. And I think most players that played for you will say that is like at the end of the day, when winning the game is all that really matters. Obviously there's stuff you clean up afterwards, but who cares? You gave 50, 51,

your team scored 54. Oh yeah. Yeah. I like the attitude that you have too, which is, it's almost like you're, you're a father of the defense. Like that probably more appropriate title. You were the dad of whatever defense is out there because you love your children all the same. And yeah, they might, they might, you know, let up a Super Bowl record amount of points on defense or they might let up, uh, you know, a 13 point, uh, loss to the Patriots and you love their performance because they're your guys. And at the end of the day, like you're just a proud dad. Well, that, yeah, that's, they're my guys, you know, they are. And, uh, and I believe in relationships, you know, not just, you know, I'm, I'm the know it all. You know, I used,

and I've told it before, I mean, I've encouraged players to say, say something that they thought, you know, they thought it was important in the game that, hey, you know, uh, uh, keep to leave. We were playing Kansas City and, and we had them, we had them backed up right before the half. They just get the ball, uh, got the ball before the end of the half. And he said, he has, he's going out on the field. He said, coach, he said, call, uh, call this certain defense. And, uh, uh, he said, because they throw it, he said, they throw an outright on the first play of the, uh, series, you know, in the two minutes. And I said, well, I got something else I can call, but I'll call it for you. Of course, they ran an outright. He intercepted

and we scored for the half and ended up winning the game. So, uh, you know, I, I, those things are important. I think if I was a different type of coach, uh, he might not have ever said anything to me, you know? So I think those things help. Yeah. Absolutely. Who would be the best player that you've ever coached that maybe isn't one of those like top name, maybe not like a perennial pro bowler, but is there one guy that stands out to you over the course of your career that's been like a very important guy defensively that might not have gotten all the accolades, but you're like, this dude can play football. Uh, well, a whole bunch of them, I think, you know, I mean, uh, uh, I can go back. Of course, you know, I've, I've got a whole lot of Hall of Famers

now. I mean, like Ricky Jackson and, and, uh, uh, Robert Brazil and Curly Culp and, and Elvin Bethay, I've coached in the first, you know, my first 10 years of coaching, they were all in the Hall of Fame now. And then, and then that water's going in, you know, this year it was supposed to be in, but that water's going in. So, uh, but, uh, you know, besides the Hall of Famer, you know, I don't know. I mean, uh, we had a guy named Vernon Perry with Houston Oilers that had the greatest game in the history of, of the playoffs. He, he, when we played, uh, San Diego Chargers with, I was with the Oilers, the playoff game, he had four interceptions and blocked a field goal and ran it back to like the 10 yard line and we won 10 to seven.

Wow. He had the greatest game that I've ever been around, you know, so I mean, but, but he wasn't a, you know, he wasn't a pro bowler or anything like that, but he, he had the greatest game for sure. Great one day. Um, all right. So coach Wade, this has been awesome. The overtime podcast. I have one last question for you. Uh, what's it, I, someone tipped us off that you stole tapes from SMU back in the day. Have you returned those? What's the story behind that? Well, this is, I don't know, I don't want to get in the long story, but I'll try to short it. We have as much time as you, as you want. I was going to Oklahoma State.

I was coming from high school, Oklahoma State. My dad was the defensive coordinator at Oklahoma State. So he hired me and another young coach, but my dad had been at SMU and, and he was moving to Oklahoma State. Okay. And a new coach came in at SMU. Hayden Fry was there. People remember Hayden Fry. He got fired. They went seven and four and beat Texas. But they still fired. They had fired Hayden. All right. Well, three or four games left. And so they, he let him finish out the year, but they ended up having a good year. So anyway, so, uh, my dad goes to, they had a good defense and my dad was coaching the defense. So he, he goes to Oklahoma State and, uh, he wants SMU to give him, you know, give him the copy of the film

from SMU so he could put in the defense, you know, so he'd have tape on the deep, you know, film on the defense so he could teach the Oklahoma State guys that, well, the new guy, uh, SMU, the new head coach said, no, we're not going to let you have the film. He just wanted a copy of the film. He didn't want the original, you know, and they wouldn't give it to him. So I'm young. I, I'm young. And, and another young coach named Harold Richardson and I are both going there and we get there the first day and my dad says, okay, Harold, you and Wade go down to get the film from SMU. You know, now he'd already, they'd already told him they couldn't have it. Okay. So Harold had worked at SMU with my dad as a graduate assistant. So, uh, so Harold knew the layout

really. And so Harold calls, calls some friends down there, finds out the head coach is not there. He's out recruiting or something. And so Harold and I go down to SMU to get the film and we walk in the coach's office. And of course the secretaries at that time, uh, they knew Harold, you know, hey, Harold, how are you doing? You know, and Harold said, I'm doing great. And they said, well, Harold, what are you doing here? You know, and he said, well, I'm getting here. I'm here to get the film. And they said, oh, okay. And so, and, and Harold told me before, before we went in, he said, hey, don't say anything. Just act like you know what you're doing. I said, okay. So he walks in. So he's the, he's the mastermind of this. So, so we go into offices and, you know,

some of the coaches are there, some of them aren't defensive coaches. He knew our defensive coaches offices were, you know. And so we go on a defensive line office. And the film was in there, you know, some of the film, and Harold would just hand me the film. There were cases, you know, and he just hand me the film. And so we went in one guy's office and he's watching the film. And the lights are off. And they had a, you know, the 16 millimeter film, you know, and, and he's running it. The coach is running it. Harold turns on the light, you know, and says, Hey, I'm, I'm Harold Richardson. And the guy says, yeah, he said, well, I'm here to get the film. Now the guy already has the film. Harold walked over, rewinds the film while the guy's sitting there, you know, said we need this

film, you know, puts it into case handed to me. We walk out and we, we walk out of the building with all the film from the year before, you know, and it's the original film. It's not, it's not copy. And so we take it up to Oklahoma State. We made up our cut up our film for, for our teaching purposes. Take back together the film where the missing parts were and send it back to us. And me, of course, they raised hell, you know, when they got it back, because they were missing a lot of the film. But, but anyway, we, we did what my dad said, go down there and get the film. So we did. Yeah. And you know, you know what happened later? I hate to bring this up. But the music City Miracle Play was taken from film from an SMU game by a Dallas Cowboys special teams coordinator

who then brought it up to Tennessee. It was almost like maybe the curse of the film. Yeah, came back. We should have cut that out too. I guess. Yeah, right. If you just cut that out. Yeah, we weren't doing special teams. We were just doing defense. Yeah. I could have been a little smarter, I guess, but I wouldn't. Yeah. That's the answer. Now, if you could change one thing in your entire life, it'd be to cut out the special teams film when you stole it from SMU. You're right there. Everything would be different. Are going to get a different official who was supposed to be there watching that, watching the throw. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this has been awesome, coach Wade. We really appreciate it. We'd love to do it in person too. Next time you're in New

York City, definitely come by and good luck. And you were officially retired from retirement. You said that. So, uh, anyone who needs help who wants to make their defense great because that's what you've done your entire career. Let's get it going. Oh, I mean, we're friends with Dion Sanders. We can have him. Yeah. You want to go to Jackson State? Yeah. There we go. Well, I think the USFL is coming back too. So that's true. That's true. Okay. I'd like to stay at Houston if I could. All right. All right. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll anything we hear will pass your way. We don't hear anything. So this is a totally hollow offer by me. We know Dana. Yeah. The coach of the university. Yeah. We know. Yeah. We're actually good friends with Dana Holgerson.

Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. That's my alma mater. Yeah. Well, he doesn't really play defense though. No. He's, he's one of those officers. He's never worried about defense. Yeah, right. Four more than the other team and you win. That's actually perfect. They'll be like, Hey, listen, I'll not go. I'll take you down from 40 points per game given up to 39 points. Yeah. Yes. I love it. All right. Well, coach Wade, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Hey, enjoy it guys. Thank you so much. Great to meet you. Wade Phillips is brought to you by our great friends over at Grubhub. We use Grubhub all the time. I'm very excited that Grubhub is advertising with us because we use it every

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Garrett Cole, here's a little PR 101 for you. It's called lying. Yeah. You just have to lie. Yeah. And if you just lie, what will happen is people will print your lie. Yeah. And then people will read them, be like, oh, Garrett Cole doesn't use spider attack. And then the story's over. And then you can just stop using spider attack if you've been using it before. The thing you don't want to do, I would actually have respected a lot more if you'd be like, yeah, I've used it because literally every pitcher uses it. And now that I know that they're cracking down, I'm not going to use it anymore. Well, he kind of did say that by accident when he was like, you know, there's a lot of things in this game that were passed down from the previous generation

to this generation, essentially like, yeah, no, it's not me. I'm like, you know, I'm holding my friend's weed for him. Like it's not, no, no, no, no. Like someone else gave me that. So yeah, he, all time terrible answer. Really bad. But his hair looked awesome. I actually noticed that. I mean, how many different ways were the Astros cheating? We got to figure out. It's gotta be like this way though, because it's literally everyone. Well, I think it was the Yankees first and the Astros took it from them. And it's pretty much just them too. He should just, he should blame Astros culture. I have a feeling I want, I want to give a little PSA to our friend, Trevor Bauer. I think they're going to try to,

much like they found the villains in the steroid era, I think they're going to try to find a villain for the spider tack era. And who would be better than Trevor Bauer? Because people don't like him. Not saying he does it. Actually, I would say he probably doesn't, but they're going to try to pin it on him and make him persona non grata. So Trevor, please make sure you're clean. Well, Trevor, also, you're probably listening to this podcast, right? I'm sure you have whatever the Google alert equivalent of a podcast notification is. You are cheating. The spin rate thing is like pretty obvious for Trevor Bauer. But again, everybody else is cheating too. Yeah. But they are going to try to pin it on you.

Beware of that. And Garrett, Garrett Cole, this is what they warned about with Garrett Cole when it comes to the New York media. Like some people aren't ready for the bright lights of New York City. He didn't anticipate that somebody would ask him a tough question like, hey, Garrett, do you cheat at baseball? He was not prepared for that. That's only the type of question you get out of the Big Apple. Yeah, unbelievable, unbelievable. All right. Sorry, Hank just passed a yawn to me. Or did I pass to you? That was simultaneous. Wait, Hank, we just did we just did we just come at the same time? Pretty much. Hank, when you catch a yawn from somebody, you don't do the noise. Oh, that was a silent yawn. Why? My mic was off. The only thing I could

that I would hear you yawn down the hallway. I don't think so. You guys have noise cancelling headphones on and big house talking. All right. So we have. We have a respect to biz quick one from Paul Sullivan. Leave it on. I'll leave it on. PW Sullivan at Twitter. He deleted it. No. No. He deleted it and and he is Chicago Tribune. Long time baseball writer, sports writer, sports columnist. Sorry, so much so that he does have the picture of himself from the newspaper header from like 25 years ago. He the Cubs are playing in San Diego and he said the Padres allow fans to invade press box to take photos during work so late. Gross. And someone responded and was like, uh, I was like, I'm a Padres fan and they do this four hours before the game.

So that like a few fans can get pictures. So initially when when I saw the tweet, I was like, maybe this happened during the game and they were, I don't know, cheering, heaven forbid, having fun. But no, I looked at the background of the picture and the background of the picture clearly shows the batting practice. And there's like one other person in the press box at that time. So it was just literally him with his phone stopping because he was being interrupted from his work by other people taking pictures to take a picture of them. Yes. One thing fans need to realize big cat is the only reason that you really get in to sports media at that level to be a press box guy is so that you can look down on fans and so that you can feel like you're superior to them

and like they owe you a debt of gratitude for covering the game that they watch on TV. All facts. So you can't come in and disturb. That's like, that is their holy grail. That's their space that they have carved out for themselves because they went to journalism school. I just hope that's Jake. I just hope the Diet Coke machine was working. What do you think about this, Jake? Disgusting, right? Just disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. I did a hashtag grow the biz, not an idea way to do that today. Yeah. Oh wait, I used to go to press box. You think the fans are No, no, he is. This is not the tweet. We disagree. The tweet was not an idea way to grow the biz. You can't have fans or fucking dirty ass fans root for teams growth. Jake, this guy's got a deadline

in seven hours. Yeah. Probably more like nine. Yeah. Yeah. The best is when the West Coast comes out in the late edition. The writers will tweet about having their game story. They call them gamers in the biz. Don't don't. Yeah, ruin it to me. That's my favorite part of like when something dramatic happens and they're like, well, this sucks. It was fucking awesome. They always tweet about how their story is no longer usable. Yeah. All right. FAQs finish this up. Hank, we got some killer guests coming up by the way. Let's get some official predictions on how this overtime game ends. Oh, avalanche. The Gucci overtime challenge avalanche. I'm going to go. Well, you have to say who scores the goal. I'm going to go with the second best guy on the team

and kill McCarr. Yeah. Yeah. McCarr. McCarr. McCarr. He went to UMass. Love him. Here we go. We got this. McCarr. All right. I'll take the ninth. Great UMass name too. And Colorado McCarr. Find someone, Hank. Flurry. Yeah, Flurry. Yeah, I like it. How could it happen? All right. You never know. Wait, is Reeve's playing? Dude, if you got that right, I don't know what you'd get, but you need to get something. I feel like when Billy predicted whatever that was, Monday in football. Yes. Hey, Hank, I would like, I know Thursday in football. Hey, Hank, I would like to know what the dynamic of the PMT group chat is. Who texts first? Who never texts? Who gets the most laughs and upvotes? Is it all work, no play in the chat? I'd say it's actually very even text messages, right? Yeah.

And it's also even on the play and work. Yeah. That's how I'd say. A lot of planning. It's usually like, it's bursts. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever it is, it's bursts. During the week, it's usually work. Like, here's what time we have to be at so-and-so location because we're around each other so much that there's really not a big need to text anything. We'll just like bust somebody's boss in their face. Yeah. But on the weekends, if there's blood in the water, if one of us has one of our favorite teams have something bad happen to them, then it's just like open season for about three hours. Something funny. Liam's Clips at four in the morning. Liam's Clips at four in the morning. They come through. We also do have a text message. It's

PMT, no Billy. Yeah. Which, what did you say, every time you saw it? Who said that every time they saw it, they thought it was PMT? No, Billy. Yeah. Yeah. Bad boy. Because it's got a picture of Billy with a circle and a line through it over. So I always think of Billy fucked up when I get a text message. And it's not, we're going to add him back in when he comes back, which could be similar. For his own good. Yeah. But yeah, I would say there's been times where I, like, haven't been on my phone. I've looked and there's been like 20 messages, but then by the time I get to the bottom, I'm like, all right, I don't need to add anything because it's over. It just, it goes in and out. And occasionally Hank will do this really passive aggressive thing where he

goes back like four months and he emphasizes a tweet or a text message. I did that. I put that on him. I went back. Yeah. Four months. Sometimes you're going to get petty. That's, I think all group texts can be like that. Yeah. Absolutely. What? I thumbs. Yeah. You got a thumbs down. Like, yeah, if you were right about something a long time ago and you're that you guys aren't going to bring it up, like, I have to be your own biggest fan. Yeah. I'm on a group text with my friends and I sometimes will just like randomly to one of my friends. I will go back for an entire week and thumbs down everything he said. It always hurts his feelings. Hey, Dadcat Marlins, women, honk and beta. No, not gonna say his name.

When you've hit people up, we said it like 16 times. Are there any funny rejections you've gone for people who don't want to come on? Yeah. Fuck Jared Dudley. Yeah. I was shocked. He was lame for that. And then he tried to come back on, right? Yeah. Then he tried to come back on. Like, why would you do that? The one that I wasn't like, it wasn't like a funny rejection or anything. It's more just like, I don't get why this happened. But Lil Dicky like said no to us. And then I always confused me because I think it'd be great on the show. And I still, I still want him on the show. Kevin Durant said no to us. We've a million times. We've tried to get Chris Berman on. So he hasn't like outright rejected us. No, we just circled them. We're

gonna get them. We'll get them. I'm trying to think. There's definitely been something that we've reached out and they've been like, yeah, this person's not doing. Tim Tebow. Yeah. No, I think Tim Tebow, the response was like, he doesn't really jive with you guys. It was like, that's a totally fair assessment. I heard it was a hard no for Tim Tebow. Yeah. Which I would expect that. Like, I wouldn't want Tim Tebow to say yes to us because we would make fun of him. Would you guys bail anyone out on this podcast that they committed murder? Depends who they killed. Depends on how they killed them. What if it was murder and that person called them was like, I didn't do it.

What if they killed baby Hiller? The first one there. If Jake told me he didn't do it, I'd believe him. Yeah. Of all people. Yeah. He's the biggest psychopath here. If Jake says he didn't do it, he didn't do it. Yeah. And if he did, that's family business. Keep it in the, in the family. La Cosa, no, sure. We have a sit down about it. No offense. You know, maybe we give you an envelope till you get lost for a while. Yeah. A nice sit down. That's your family. Our thing. I would actually, as long as like, I think as long as it wasn't like a child or I think it was, if it was another man, I'd bail out all of you guys out for killing another man. Pretty sexist. Well, no, I would not

bail you out if you killed a woman. I wouldn't. Quality. No matter what woman it was, any woman. Hitler's wife. Eva Braun, she killed herself. No, did Hitler kill her? Baby Hitler's wife. Unclear. Unclear. They're living in Argentina. Yeah. Yeah. I think I would, I'd bail you guys out. If you guys were like, Hey, I got in a beef with another man, had to kill him. I'd be like, All right, fine. Fuck it. Let's roll. What if Hank was like, Hey, I'd say no more, fam. I fucked up. I killed Jake. The memes got to me. Yeah. No, I'd bail him out because I'd be like, Finally, you stood up for yourself. I would bail him out and I'd be under the condition that we record a podcast immediately before you get arrested again. What took you so long, Hank?

All right, this person sent like 12 questions. I'm going to read them all as fast as you can, as I can, and you guys can just choose which one you answer. Oh God. Have you guys thought about doing live shows like KSC radio? Have you ever thought about doing less than three shows a week because it seems everyone's more busy now? Any update on KD coming on? Will you ever talk about what happened with Dan Bilzerian? I have holes in my old PMP shirt from where can I get a new one? How's life? How excited are you for the Brooks Dave golf match? Are you really going to be on Brooks bag the whole time? My answer is no. My answer is we can't talk about it. You have to figure out which one that actually answers. I think all of those are mostly actually answers

every question except for have you thought about doing less than three shows because we haven't. No, that's that's also no. Yeah, we never have. Yeah, I think we covered it all because there's one specific yeah that like will give you a little bit more with we can't talk about it. But Dan Bilzerian made a sign something that was like five million dollars will sue you if you talk about this, which I guess now he's going to sue us. But he sucked. Also met Steve will do it. Remember that? Yeah. He was like, Hey, I'm Steve will do it. I was like, who? But now I follow him. Big fan gives out Teslas everywhere. Dude just gives Tesla's out. He's London. Yeah, he is. And his fucking dog's cute. Donald. Does big cat even eat the donuts? I know

way too much about Steve will do it. I don't even know who that is. I can tell by your silence. Yeah, no idea. I was pumped to meet him when we would summit. Yeah, no, he's awesome. He sounds like a made up reality star. Dave dropped a ball with that one. Steve was trying to work here. Really? I like Steve will do it. I felt bad when he introduced it. I was like, I don't know who like that you are. But now you should be like what we do and then you could have seen it and it's crazy. Flory just hit the post. Does big cat even eat the donuts? He's looking good lately. How many how many donuts do you actually add to those you tweet six every Saturday? Seven. Seven. I usually three. But it's the weekend. So it doesn't count. It's usually three. And then

one one other members of my household. And then now there's a baby. So I'll probably just have to make her eat them too. Yeah, we don't finish. We don't finish all of them. But I'll have a bite of every single one. That's kind of what I do. When was the last Saturday you didn't buy donuts? It's been a while. It's literally my favorite thing to do. So my son and I go and it's a fucking great time. We just go we pick out the donuts. It's like a little little serenity, kind of a decompression like let's get into the weekend. It just it brings me happiness. I really like it. I've always wanted to have a place where I go when I do. I know it's nice. I want to have a place where I go like on a regular scheduled time where they know you and you walk in they're

like, Oh, hey, it's Mr. Collins. Hey, we got those frosted ones that you like so very much. Do you when you walk in? Are they like, Oh, it's it's Dan. No, so the guy. Good thing. He does. It's not dead. He does kind of know who I am because it's a it's a donut there. He. Oh, there we go. It was the Knights, which let's go. I did predict and it was not Nathan McKinnon. That's pretty crazy tonight. Yeah. 3 2. No, the place I go to, which I don't want to like say because there's a line. I would not say. And there's a line, but I'm usually like first in line. So I think he's like he's standing on. I've got a timed out. I fucking know what time it opens. It's a place that it's literally a line down the block. What do you want me to say, Hank?

I love it. No, I love it. This is great information. So I wait. I get there. I know when to get there. And so I'm usually number one or two in the line. Usually when someone's the same crew up top. No, usually when someone's ahead of me, it's like someone who like I can tell like you're a fucking tourist. Like you just Google this and lucked into probably got here because you thought it was open. Yeah, no. And they open the doors for me. And it's fucking awesome. Yeah. The guy, I think the guy recognized me. I think he knows who I am. I think he's Spanish. Not an FAQ, but anytime anyone, anytime something an F1 happens, me and my buddy just say box box. Yeah, box box. And that was talking F1. F1 is awesome. Please get Daniel on the pod.

I also like to say like he won't retire. He's too much of a driver to retire. Yeah. Push, push, push, push. Okay, push. Okay. Okay, Pierre, push. Mode push. Mode push from here. Yeah. Okay, push here. I just love it when they get like P7 and the walkthrough is high. P7, that was a great drive. I love how they also just apologize to each other all the time. They're like, Oh, I'm sorry, guys. Did you see that one dude? He got passed by like seven cars in about five seconds. And then he probably was like, sorry, guys. It was hilarious watching it from the point of view of the cockpit. Sorry. Sorry, guys. All right, well, and we'll try harder next time.

Will Lenny Dykstra ever get another anonymous phone call? I'm sure. Yeah, we'll reach a breaking point with Lenny at some point, but lays two online recently. You want, you want to? It's 12 o'clock. We can't do it. 12. No, Lenny Dykstra is definitely getting a bed early. Let's see what last time he tweeted. People also forget we had an actual burner phone. Yeah. Yeah, he actually had a separate, I don't even know where it came from, but it had its own, like it was a cell phone. Lenny Dykstra's probably going to bed right now from last night. He hasn't tweeted for 12 hours. I'm going to leave Lenny alone.

We're not going to bother Lenny, but that wasn't what he retweeted something an hour ago. Shit. He's a huge Kwame Brown fan. He's only retweeting Kwame Brown stuff, but Kwame isn't even on Twitter. Do I have his number? You liked something 54 minutes ago. What was it? You beat me to it, Nails. Salute. You remember when he just tweeted out like a picture of a naked woman in his basement one time?

That was wild. He does weird ass shit. All right, hold on. I think she was there voluntarily. Are you googling if star 67 is still a thing? No. I don't have his number saved, so I have to go back into my DMs. Wait, can you search DMs? Well, I just went to his profile and hit DM button on it. Gotcha.

I'm actually upset that I don't have it. I guarantee you he's changed his number, right? Yeah, that's like four years ago. Maybe not by his own volunteer. Maybe it was. The number you dialed has been changed, disconnected, or is no longer in service. Yeah, you did. All right, so I'll DM him and be like, hey, Lenny, can I get the new dig, and we'll do it. We'll do it.

Maybe once. Although I did feel bad. People were like, that was fucked up. But he hasn't been arrested in three years. That's true. Lenny feels like he's on the mend. He's on the straight now. We're good. We're good with Lenny. All right. Eight, 99.

Great show. 18. Six. 53. I can't believe I can't even keep track of my numbers. 53. 67 and eligible. 92.

Oh, damn. Albert Hansworth, shout out, he got a new kidney. Who hasn't, who hasn't, who hasn't had it? Third time. Is it you? You're the only one. You've never won, Hank? Yeah, no.

You've been all around. That's almost impossible. We've had this for almost a year now, right? Yeah, but there's still like 30 numbers that haven't been picked. No, wait, we've had this for almost a year, yeah. Ten months. I just had an idea. Feel free to shoot it down.

Do you think that Lenny Dykstra would like to play Dungeons and Dragons with us? Yeah, I do. I'm shooting that down. Probably just eat the dragon's pussy. I will DM. I've got packs if you guys want them. Or we can hold off till Friday. Hank's shooting us down.

I'm loaning up an RPG. I think it would be good content, Hank. I'm gonna say great. Probably not great. Be solid. Boom, done. I said, hey Lenny, long time. Wanna play Dungeons and Dragons with us?

That's literally what I just said. What? What, Hank? What? No, I'm waiting for you to end the show, so I can say what I really want to say. Animal fact, Jake. Oh, wow.

Coyotes and Badgers will hunt together. The Badger digs up the prey and the coyote runs it down. Love it. Teamwork makes a dream work. Love you guys. Remember when you showed up to our office with a gun? Yeah. Yeah.

You can leave that part in. Yeah. I did. I didn't know that. I wish I'm shooting. That was old money. On me, take me on. I'll be gone in a day or two.

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