Pardon My Take - WFT Coach Ron Rivera, Getting Larry The Goldfish Into The HoF W/David Baker & Mt Rushmore

Episode Date: August 18, 2021

Grit Week continues and we talk about being on the road as well as watching Hard Knocks at a random AWL’s house (00:03:02 - 00:19:17). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (00:19:17 - 00:40:21). Washington Football Team Coach Ron Rivera joins the show to talk about Grit, beating Cancer, coaching elite defenses, 85 Bears and more (00:40:21 - 01:11:45). We stopped in Canton to visit our friend David Baker and negotiate Larry’s induction into the HoF (01:11:45 - 01:26:44). Mt Rushmore of worst places to fart plus Guys on ChecksYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, grit week continues. We stop at the Washington football teams facility. Get to talk to coach Ron Rivera. Awesome interview with him. The definition of grit, that guy.

We also went to Canton. We talk about our Hall of Fame visit. We also have David Baker on to negotiate getting Larry the Goldfish into can into the pro football Hall of Fame, some hard knocks, Mount Rushmore of worst places to fart. A new segment, guys on checks, which actually is a winner. I think we're going to do it on checks. Yeah, it was good.

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It's part of my take. Welcome to part of my take presented by Coors Light, the greatest beer of all time. Today is Wednesday, August 18th, and we are in Cleveland. We are on Grit Week Day three great trip so far. We have Washington football team coach Ron Rivera coming up. We're in Canton. And we also watch Hard Knocks at Shout Out Maddie and Tyler, their house.

Wonderful AWL's Hard Knocks Stinks. And also shout out Duke the Dog. Duke the Dog. Duke the Dog really saved the night. There's nothing that can turn around a bad episode of Hard Knocks like watching it with a cool dog. Except for Jake. Jake is allergic to dogs.

He'll never know my joy. Yeah, Jake, trust me, it's awesome. When you're not allergic to dogs, man, it is it's the God moment. If we had we should we should actually for next year's Grit Week, we should have like a helmet that we give out every day. Jake gets the grittiest guy of the day because we went to their house to watch Hard Knocks. We were there for maybe an hour and 15 minutes and Jake has been

sneezing and sniffling since. But that's great. He actually turned to me like choking back his own phlegm, almost dying, and he was like in his Grit Week. After all, it's OK, dude, I am a little bit concerned, though, that Jake's going to get back on the sauce on the nose spray. Yeah, this is like a gateway like you've been so good. You've been off it for such this could be a relapse.

No, we're not going to happen. What is great? What is great? What's the grittiest thing you guys did on Grit Week? Well, we have this guy who's allergic to the world and he sat with a dog for an hour. My mom has a hyperallergenic dog, so it's not like completely bad, but this one happened to shed. It happened to shed.

It did kind of save what was a stinker episode of Hard Knocks. I've never felt dumber, actually, watching TV than I did at the end of this week's episode of Hard Knocks, because when it was over, you know what I did as everybody was getting up and like getting ready to go to their Ubers. I sat on the couch because I was like, wait, I want to see scenes from next week's Hard Knocks. Yes, like it was an episode of Game of Thrones.

I was going to come on. Oh, yeah, they haven't filmed it yet because the world hasn't happened. It hasn't happened. It hasn't occurred. It was the ending was I had to like check myself because they had the dramatic rainstorm and leave Shriver was doing some unbelievable speech. And then I was like, wait, they lost in a preseason game to the Cardinals by three points. What are we doing here? But it was like life and death.

I would say this was so it was boring because the issue at hand is there's two things that everyone wants to see. It's Jerry Jones wasn't enough Jerry Jones and two, we want to see more Dak and that's the only story that anyone cares about and they can't show it because they don't want to tell us that his shoulders fucked up and he's probably going to miss the whole year. Yeah, I could have dealt with maybe a training camp fight. That would be something maybe we could look but like a real fight.

Yeah, we had we had the Rams versus versus Aaron Donald started that, which whoever wants to fight Aaron Donald be my guest. Yeah, that's the dumbest thing. I'll take the knockoff Aaron Donald in the south stands. You know what? That might have been like whoever fought him on the cowboys is like, hey, if I fight Aaron Donald, they have to give me a roster spot. They're going to show me on hard knocks. Yeah, right. That's what he was going for.

I'm a little concerned with Gucci D'Nucci that's kind of a running theme if you've ever watched him play football. But I think that they're they're giving him a little bit too much face time. And and he's a guy that he thrives in a situation where he's not on film a lot. But remember it like dawned on me halfway through the episode, I turned to you. I was like, doesn't Mike McCarthy know him or something? There is that Western PA, you know, affinity they have with each other. And I think D'Nucci's eighth grade basketball coach is Mike McCarthy's brother.

So I think he's OK. Yeah, I think that alone will keep him on the team. Meritocracy. Well, maybe maybe practice squad. I don't know because like you can read the tea leaves. We've watched enough episodes of hard knocks where they always focus on one guy and try to make him a sympathetic backstory character. And then he gets cut. Oh, the dude from the Ivory Coast is fucked and a great story, which sucks because he won the game on that set.

But he's like a two hundred twenty five pound defensive end. Great story. Also, shout out to his mom. The the outfit that she wore to that game. Yeah, that's sick. I would like to see people start to adopt that style of wear because that's you can't have a bad time if you're rocking like a satin fluorescent pink outfit. Yeah, it was and it was it was great watching his family. Like when the mom was like, I can't stop smiling. Yeah, it was the family episode as a father or two.

I found some heartwarming moments. I also miss my family. I'm at that point of the road trip day three. Well, I'm like, oh, I kind of wish I was with my son, but that's OK. I got to watch hard knocks at a random person's house. Shout out to Tyler and Maddie. This is Duke. This is how bad the episode was like one of the one of the best parts of the episode was like, hey, this guy speaks with a different accent.

And they did like 10 minutes on English. Hey, this guy's from England. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I do. So I think it was it was Maddie. Who else? Maddie and Tyler. Duke almost killed Jake. Yeah, Tyler turned to me at one point and when they were doing the English thing, he was like, you got to do a Jerry Jones impression of Jerry Jones

doing the British accent, which did. So I do have one of those ready to go if you'd like to hear. Yeah, of course. Come on. Hey, mate. You know, you know, this is wild stuff. You know what they you know what they call a cigarette in London? And then that's like what's not to repeat the rest because DJing because he's like he read. I've read the Matt Damon interview.

Yeah, yeah, you can't do that. Jerry Jones tried to do an English accent. Yeah, when he tried to do the Winston Churchill speech. Yeah, that was that didn't work. Well, Jerry is the only guy I think they've ever seen that's put on weight after the age of 75. Most people just start to wither away. He's just ballooning up.

Yeah, I think it's most of the Botox are the sodium. Yeah. The Botox is like just keeps you nice and plump at all times. Yeah, your face has the plumpness to it. But yeah, boring episode. I don't know. Hard knocks. I feel like I don't want to I still love it. I think we do this every year, though.

Episode one, we get really excited because they also have more to film. They have like two or three weeks to film. We get very excited. Football is coming back. And then by the time we get to like the last episode, I'm like, I'm out on this. Yeah, well, it serves its purpose, right? And its purpose is to make me excited in the last like two weeks of July and the first week of August to anticipate the first episode of hard knocks.

Yeah. And then afterwards, it's like, OK, just I would rather watch preseason football once a week. Yeah, I think I actually think that we should do like a we need a think piece in oral history of hard knocks, how Rex Ryan ruined hard knocks, because everyone after Rex is trying to have a moment like Rex and you'll never have that moment again. I thought that the closest that we came was the Brown season, because in the Brown season, at least you had Todd Haley and Hugh Jackson

just like seeing trying to piss up the same wall, the same barn and both just wetting themselves the entire time. And then you also had the the infamous Baker spiral. Yeah, that was Hugh Jackson was not trying to do anything funny, but everything he did was funny. Yes, which is the funniest thing of all. Yes, right. Yeah, what was your mojo moment from this week? I think mine was now you can go first.

I'm trying to set between two. I was going to say, well, in real life or in hard knocks in hard knocks. OK, because in real life, it was them, Tyler and Maddie giving us guacamole, which was homemade. Yeah, it was great. That's mojo moment. It has a big three thousand chips. I chip myself to death. I do that every time I go to Mexican food.

I always chip myself to death. I just sit there and you don't even need to bring me dinner. I ordered five tacos and by the time they came, I was like, I'm going to puke. You got a persevere. You got to know, I just I bury myself in chips. I can't. I'm like, but then you had more at the house. Yeah, oh, yeah, I'm like a Labrador that like you put the food out and they will literally eat themselves to death. If you put enough chips out, I will eat myself to death.

That's what a husky does. A husky because their instinct is like, I don't know when my next meal is going to be on a pack dog. I'm pulling the sled. I better get my calories. Yeah, no, the guacamole was fantastic. Yeah, it's death by chips. Yeah, that's my that will be on my tombstone. But I still think about when we went to the final four in San Antonio

and I chip myself to death for like four days straight. My mojo moment from hard knocks was the Marcus Lawrence saying, I don't like to turn my back on the ocean. Yeah, that was great. That's great life advice. I don't know why, but now from now on, I'm never going to turn my back on that ocean. Yeah, mine was when they did the yoga man card and then they zoomed in on the guy's taint and then they went to Zika Elliott being like my goo shirts. That was great.

It was very good. Have you seen? Well, it was kind of weird. They all put the towels over their heads and laid down. It looked like Heaven's Gate. It was like a really strange set up son that they were trying to get away from. But it might be wrong. OK, yeah, I think it was that. OK, that makes sense.

My mojo moment from this week was I'm going to say so far from today. Well, me and Big Cat apologizing to each other. We had an apology off because we did go to Canton. We went to visit Larry's grave site, RIP Larry or gambling goldfish Larry, too. And his grave has been defiled. He's been dug up. The tree has been defiled and they cut down his tree. Yes, they cut down a tree, which is a real problem with CO2

that we're having right now, like we need all the trees we can get. And they chopped his little tree down and we were looking for his grave site. But unfortunately, without all these landmarks that we have to find Larry, like his plaque, which has also been removed. I thought it was in this one location. We got there and we're like, well, it's not here. And then Big Cat was like, no, it was way further down this road. I was like, no, you're wrong.

And then Big Cat was like, no, you're wrong. No, I was like, there's no tree there. Yeah, there's no tree there. And so Big Cat and I were we got to do a back and forth saying, like, I will accept my apology any time now. We said that to each other. And then after we realized we'd been duped and the tree was cut down, we both were wrong and right.

We admitted to each other that we were actually both right. You had the location, right? I had the fact there was no tree there. Right. Yes. And yeah, they my I thought for a second there that we were losing it. They were like, all right, we got to hang it up because we can't figure out like a pretty significant detail in all of our lives, I'd say there is funeral.

We had just it just erased from our memory. But we've sorted it out. We have David Baker on the show. We are going to get Larry into Canton, so you'll hear that. The hall of fame was awesome, though, walking around. We got like a view of John. Shout out, John, who's their archivist. He took us in the back.

We got to see all this really cool stuff. Just an awesome time. Yeah, it was great. We do have a code blue situation on the bus, though, on the RV, which is the generators dead. And so now there's no AC. There's no power on the bus, so Billy's going to be sweating out there. It's human. You know what?

The bus actually turned humid on the drive from Canton to Cleveland. I don't think I've ever been humid inside of a car before, but there we were. So our bus driver, Ben, said that he tried to fix it, but he doesn't have any tools. Corey told us. Yeah, it's coming up. We remember it's coming up. Yeah. Let's try time travel.

Billy, question for you. So no generator, no AC, but you do have a mattress from mattress firm, right? So you're unjunking your sleep. You've seen a sleep expert go right now to a mattress firm store or mattress firm dot com to unjunk your sleep with a sleep expert. How have you been sleeping on your mattress firm mattress? I cannot wait until you guys leave the RV to go to bed because the mattress is so amazing.

There it is. Great answer. And honestly, I'm not worried about no AC because the mattress is amazing. And you're gritty. The only part about having that mattress is that I can't lay on it during the day when we're driving because everyone else tries to sleep on my mattress. I might have spilled some dip spit on it when I was out back there today. Doesn't matter. That's fine. That's great. Yeah.

It was just a there was a bottle cap situation. I can't get people out of my bed. We hit a bump and it was like, whoops, I'm on Billy's bed. I definitely left my my beer can that was mostly empty, almost all the way empty on the top bunk. Yeah. And then Jake got into it on the first night. He's like, I'm going to just go climb up there first thing. I was like, oh, no, he's definitely going to feel how wet that mattress.

And then Jake comes immediately back down with the can of beer and like throws in the trash. So our bad guys are bad. That was, you know, that was a joke, a prank by us. Listen, we're messing. We're this is the road life. Yes. I mean, we can't get back to our roots, which is just essentially spilling liquids on things. Yes. Random liquids on things and not telling anyone. That's the important part.

Yeah, I didn't think it was a fine liquids as normal. It's it's never telling anyone that you spilled anything ever. Jake, would you rather sleep on a mattress that's been soaked in Coors Light like old warm Coors Light or have an extremely cute dog sleep on the mattress with you? Giving me all the time with the Coors Light. Mountains are blue. OK. The sheets are blue, too. And the what if I told you you can either not sleep

you can you never get another pillow ever to sleep on ever again for the rest of your life unless you sleep on Duke as a pillow for one night. If it was during Great Week, I would be gritty. Yeah, grind it out. Yeah, I'll let him kiss you on the lips, too. Yeah, kiss you up and down. Hank, check in with you. Are you good? Yeah. All right.

The grittiest of us all. Hank, you get some sun today? No. Why are your eyes red? I'm tired. Yeah, yeah, me too. Yeah, I'm very tired. Is you feel like look really tired today? Yeah, I'm super tired.

I'm actually haven't even you guys are inferring something that I haven't even done. No, yeah, I wish I could say that was the reason. Yeah, I'm actually just tired. The Hank also bought some shades in the can. Pro football hall of fame. They're buying them. They are. Pro football hall of fame, gift shop.

I'll wear them in Buffalo. It looks like the biggest douche bag ever in Buffalo. They're like silver. They're team issued, they're team issued. Silver Patriots like Oakley. He said they're so funny. It's a definition of like they were on the counter when you're checking out. Like, oh, I got to have these on.

Yeah, they look like they're straight out of like 1997. I bet the Jared Karabas edition. They look like the same glasses that gas is wearing when he's to get taken out of the NFL HQ. Yes, yes, with his handcuffs on. Yes, but that should be in the hall of fame. Oh, oh, that was the only other thing I had to mention. Hank and and our sales guy Nick, who's with us, they were Liam

pointing this out to me and I watch you guys do it. They basically spent the entire time walking through the pro football hall of fame cataloging any and all slander against the Patriots. They were like taking pictures of like the helmet catch being like they shouldn't be here. Like, oh, where's Bella? Check it was so great. They're like, this is bullshit.

Yeah. What'd you think it does? Chair didn't care for it. Yeah, that's on the list. I mean, it's one of those things where it's awkward because like, you know, the pro football hall of fame opened their doors for us. So I don't want to like, no, you can say it. It's piece of shit.

It's also the very first thing you see when you walk. Yeah, it's great. It's great. So I got a piece of shit. I did get a chance to sit in the chair. And as I was leaving the lady that was helping us out with the tour, she told me that Roger Goodell actually wants that chair back for football season. So we didn't even donate it.

Yeah, the worst. He's he's watching the war. I mean, giving the chair for charity and then never have them come over. Yeah, basically. And also his M&M holders in there, too. Yeah, it's a bit masturbatory, Roger. Yeah, Roger Goodell's hall of fame, pretty much. All right, should we get to the rest of the show?

So we got Hot Seat Cool Throne, Ron Rivera, David Baker, getting Larry into the Hall of Fame, Mount Rushmore of worst places to fart. And what's the last thing? Oh, guys, on checks. Holy shit. That's a huge show. Big show. OK, Hot Seat Cool Throne time. Hot Seat Cool Throne is brought to you by our friends at Tick Pick,

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Are you going to do it? Yeah, OK, my hot seat is the Boston Red Sox. Oh, OK, why? I thought they were like way ahead of the Yankees. They're now only one game they lost today. First half a double header. Second game is going on right now. They lost the first game.

They're only one game ahead of the Yankees. The Yankees are twenty one and nine since they all start break. The Red Sox are 14, 16. So we got a we got a good old and Rizzo, you know, they Rizzo came back. They got a little momentum. He got and they got they got Gayo. Gayo, my boy, Gayo wins when Schwab are going to play. I think he played the other day.

I think so. No, no first at that home run, though. Would you get hot? How'd you break her boy? I don't know. I don't know. But the yeah, it's going to be it's going to be a fun, fun fall, though. Yeah, it's a classic pennant race. You get nervous for the wild card spot. Hey, I know you very deeply care about the Red Sox like all year round.

I know that's a given. But like, when do you really start to get into him? Right about now? This is I mean, not probably not to like September mid to late September and then definitely October if they make the playoffs. But a Red Sox Yankees pennant race for the wild card is enough to catch my attention and I'll be too.

It demands your attention right now. You got the alert like, hey, Henry Lockwood, we need your attention. Show up. Let's go. Right. And they have it. I'm here. OK, perfect. And then my cool throw. If they lose, like, let's say the next seven games, will your attention now be off of it?

Well, if they're out of the pennant race for the wild card, then yeah. OK. And then my my cool throw is cold activated shirts and cups. Yes, we're talking about this on the bus. They came out in the disc golf video. It's one of those things that I mean, they're cool, but it's like, how do how do we even do them? Yeah, it's a it's a modern marvel that we're, you know, we're selling,

we're propping off of its nice, they're cool little things. But when you actually wrap your mind around it, can you guys tell me? I was asking Billy, Billy couldn't even come up with the answer. I'm starting to use the answer for everything. Whether it's right or wrong. Mostly wrong. He was stumped. The mountains turning blue on a can of beer is probably the best scientific achievement, maybe ever.

But now they have the cups and the shirts. So we have shirts, we have cups, the cups like you would have thought that we had just all watched like the RV go to the moon, because we got on the RV there. We have these mugs. They were clear all day. Someone had put a couple into the cooler, pulled it out like dark blue and everyone was like, what, how the fuck did this happen?

And then they pulled it out and then slowly it went back to clear. And it was like, oh my God, and it's going back. So the lesson is, yes, it's incredible technology. And also our brains are maybe like a little bit better than like a kitten's brains, where we can be fascinated by these smallest, littlest things. Well, even better than taking it out of the fridge. When you pour a cold beer into it, you can watch the cup.

Like the beer looks like it turns blue as it goes up the side. It's it's a science experiment. Like you could probably get an A if you if you have a third grader out there and they're looking for a last minute thing to bring in a class, just give them a course light and a frosty mug and tell them to report for their teacher, like the iPhone. So genius spent all their time making this like modern marvel of technology just so like moms can play Candy Crush.

Yes. Yeah, yeah. So when some scientists spent a lot of time figuring that technology out for it to just go into beer cups. Also so people could rant into them in their trucks. Right. That's really the best part about it. Yes. Is that it? Yeah. PFT. Great job. Thanks. My hot seat is fun.

Funds on the hot seat. Sorry, because Mr. Mara, excuse me, Giants co-owner Mr. Mara and all the people out there referring to him as John Mara. You might as well code called Dion Sanders prime or calm Dion and not coach because it's disrespectful. Co-owner John Mara was the driving force behind the new taunting penalty in the NFL, the one where you you see the the guy in the Colts that got the flag

for essentially just standing up and screaming after he ran over the entire Panther's defense. So Mr. Mara was the one that that is enforcing it. It's it's honestly stupid. Like he was saying that nobody wants to see this. And we all you got here it is. So he said we get sick and tired of the talking that goes on from time to time. Well, first of all, I'm going to stop you right there.

It's time. It's not even like talking that goes on all the time. From time to time, we get sick and tired of something. No. It's just a question of whether you can have rules that can be enforced and without taking the fun out of the game. Nobody wants to see a player taunting another player. I know I certainly don't. I'm going to have to say that I absolutely do. I'm I'm I am put me up for the when he says nobody.

Put me on the list of somebody who does want to see taunting all the time. Because when he says we get sick and tired of all the talking, who is this wee bullshit from time to time? It's just John Mara that gets sick of it. By the way, Mr. Excuse me, they were not as much. Exactly. That's the thing. It's like I can make a rule if you play basketball against me, I'm going to outlaw dunking for both of us.

Yes, I know Daniel Jones isn't allowed to taunt after all the spectacular plays. You guys stink and you get taunted on. Yeah. And that sucks. And John Mara, if you take one look at the guy, Mr. Mara, he is he is the man. He is the man that we he's the machine that needs to be raged against. He looks like when you die, if you still have a boss, that's what he looks like. Yes, he's he should be this is a fun.

He should be he should be starring in the crown. Yes, because he is he's basically a monarch in England, but it's actually in New York and he just says no fun for you. He should star in Downton Abbey as a portrait that hangs on the wall of the most boring character's house. Yes. So that's never seen that show. But I think I nailed that. Yeah, you did. Your cool turn. Oh, yeah.

My cool throne, my cool throne is Billy's butt. Yeah, Billy's butts on the cool throne. Now it is yesterday, not so much. So we went out to the Buffalo Wing Factory in Sterling, Virginia, when my favorite place is growing up and Billy attempted the Flatliner Challenge. What is the Flatliner Challenge? It's a good question, Billy. Do you want to answer that? I can keep going.

Well, we have a video coming out. So why don't you explain the challenge? But don't tell us what happened. Ten extremely hot, hot wings. It's going to be awesome. You're going to fucking crush this. I'll put it this way. These wings are so hot. My friend Taylor, we dared him back in high school

to take a shot of the Flatliner sauce. He did. He sprinted out to the parking lot and started puking everywhere. They called an ambulance. So this is a really good place. This is going to be great. All right, so tune in because we have Billy trying it with special guest Stanford Steve, who had lunch with us. I. Billy, listen, I know there's some haters of Billy.

This will win you over. What time should we do it? Seven o'clock. Whenever it gets tomorrow. Yeah, Wednesday. Yeah, eight o'clock. How about this? If this tweet with this video on it gets two hundred retweets,

that's when it comes out. Well, no, because we're going to schedule it, then we have to go out all day. So yeah, eight o'clock, eight o'clock. Nice try. Hey, listen, I'm looking out for the team here. I'm trying to get our numbers up. Corporates been breathing down our ass.

Eight o'clock, eight o'clock. Excited, Billy. We're going to crush it. One sneak peek down your eyes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's possible. Wait, don't say anything because I mean, this is going to be like we're going to crown our champion.

You know how you say that like you can't drink two cups of milk in an hour? I've never said that in an hour. Yeah. I'll drink two cups of milk. What's that? Give me a minute. I'll drink two cups of milk in your face. What's that myth about drinking milk? It's a gallon of milk.

Yeah. Oh, well, that might have been disproven as well. OK. OK. All right. There we go. Going to be a great video. Watch Billy. Yeah. Watch. I take you to war mode on the chicken. Subscribe. All right.

My hot seat is anyone who likes Tim Tebow because he got cut and the force of Tim Tebow actually trying out for the Jacksonville Jaguars and being a tight end. I'm not even mad about him taking a roster spot. I'm just sick of Tim Tebow, especially the fact that he was asked to be a tight end like 10 years ago when he was still in the NFL, said no. And now he tried again and he sucked.

Yeah. If you know any Skip Baylis is out there, give them a call today and check in on them. See how they're doing because it's a tough one. I kind of almost want to see LeBron James just go out for the Rams on a whim this season. I'm sure he'd be better than Tim Tebow. And catch 10 touchdown passes just to watch Skip Baylis's head explode on this one. Yeah. It's it's I'm sick of him. It was all it was always a sideshow.

Yes. He's never going to make the team ever. But people wait. I love talking about. I thought you didn't you my friend. If you say if you honestly think he was going to maybe make the team, if you honestly think that I like Tim Tebow and I want him to like be a great player because I'm rooting for him, then we we don't see it. My thing with Tim Tebow is I love talking about OK, OK. But you thought maybe he would make the team.

I thought that Urban Meyer might be blackmailed by Tim Tebow. Got it. Got it. Yeah, I never thought there was a chance. And I'm like they sold the number one seller in Jersey for two days. They robbed people of their money. No refunds. Not a dime back. And now Tim Tebow is cut. So and then my cool throne is the New Orleans Saints because they just signed Kevin White, rookie of the year.

So James Winston to Kevin White, I think I have a second team. I don't know what else I can say. Like that's James that James video today of him humping the air on Sunday night. Oh, OK. My bad. I saw it today. That James video I saw today of him humping the air was awesome. Yeah, it was sick. OK, I kind of ruined like that sucks for me, but whatever. All right, Billy, go ahead. Why? No, it just sucks.

I like it sucks when you when I say like when someone says like, oh, that video is like, well, actually, you missed it. It's a shitty feeling. I feel bad about myself. I retract my I feel bad about myself. My hot seat is just students from middle school to college. Our nightmare has returned back in 2013. No, there was a there was an app called Yik Yak,

which absolutely destroyed people's lives, especially adolescents at a very impactful age. If you don't know, Yik Yak was an anonymous message board of source for basically with your geographic location. You could post like a message anonymously. OK, so like, you know, rumors were spread. No, no, this was all there. Oh, it was a goddamn war zone.

I mean, you could basically like post anything like if you were in a high school setting, right, like you could just go to high school and then just like post something on that geographic location and everyone would check the feed and like see like, oh, this person cheated on this person over the weekend and like shit would go nuts. And it was a huge rumor mill like ball in the bathroom talking about being a wide receiver. It actually it just sounds like a bathroom wall that got turned into an app.

Right. Right. But the thing is like the janitor goes and scrubs the bathroom wall. Something's put up and like, right, like people could like be. So what happened to it? It's back. Oh, it's back. But also like cool thrown freedom of speech. This this this was like cyber really central, like ask if Yik Yak. What happened to Billy?

No, no, no, I mean, form string, like I'm just saying, like it made a group of very tough individuals who had to grow up like in being like sixth grade and seeing shit being put up. Yeah, that does sound impactful. Yeah, I guess I don't have children. I don't know what it's like to to raise a kid in this environment. But I feel like kids until they're out of high school just shouldn't have apps. There's nothing good that comes from having an app as a child.

Yeah. Also, my other hot seat, Travis Kelsey, his beard. Has shaved. Everyone is just going after him on the Internet. On the Yik Yak. Yeah, basically, if there was Yik Yak, the chief's camp, it's probably all just roasting. Travis Kelsey for Kells, Kells for how he looks for an Asian guy.

And I don't think he looks that bad, though. Like people are like, oh, wow, it's good. Travis Kells looks awful. I think it looks good. Yeah. When people shave their beards, they usually don't look that bad. I agree. Yeah, it's not. I wasn't jarring at all.

It's totally normal. Yeah, totally normal. Clean shaving guy. He looks kind of like if Joey Chestnut played football, I can see that. Or like a Mormon, Henry Rollins. But like he still is, I don't know. He still looks pretty normal to me. I agree. And my cool throne is Nick Saban.

When told about Oregon having a hundred different uniform combinations, he said, we have two red jerseys at home, white jerseys away. Our main concern around here is who is wearing them. Love it. Just football guy. Oh, breaking moves. What do you got, Henry? Ben, the RV driver.

OK, he was quite a character. He said, you got you can let the guys know that I got the generator AC going for at least now. We slide is still not working and I'm out of ideas on it. Figure I better be happy with what I got done. I love I love the end of that sentence, by the way. That's him saying like I just quit. But he's like, I figure it would be good

if I could just be happy with what I was able to accomplish. Also, the generator working for now when we don't have to go anywhere for like 12 hours. That doesn't that feels like when he says for now, he we're going to get on the bus tomorrow morning. And he's like, well, I told you guys it was working like at 7 p.m. on Tuesday night. Mm hmm. Yeah.

What do you want me to do about it? That means that he currently has the right on the bus. Yeah, I have faith. OK. All right, Jake, your hot seat. Cool throne. My hot seat is playing jerseys. The NHL like the NBA is adding advertising

to the front of the jerseys in twenty twenty two. I feel like it's inevitable for NFL. Yeah, which is just fine with it. Who cares? Remember when they said it when it was a big deal because the NBA was doing it? And then it happens and you're like, OK, they do it with practice jerseys in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't it doesn't matter.

It's going to happen. It's like you don't go to a sporting event anywhere in the United States and be like, wow, I had no idea. There was all this corporate influence until there was a small patch on one of their jerseys. Right. Except except for the record, when baseball does it, I'll be mad just to be mad at baseball for doing it too late. Yeah, it's a nothing burger. Fair.

I then cool thrones the NBA schedule. We had the release of opening night Christmas Day. Christmas Day, Nets, Lakers. Well, wait, no, Christmas Day, Packers, Browns. Oh, is it a conflict? Again, they released their Christmas Day schedule. There's two NFL games. Sorry, NBA. Well, they're the week is not going to be watching that.

Christmas Day, I think is a Saturday. Well, remember a few years ago, they just made the NFL slate on a Saturday. Yeah, they do that every year. They do they do like a Saturday. No, they had like Red Zone on a Saturday. Yeah, a few years ago. What day is do you think that there's any day of the sporting calendar

that the NFL could not take over? If Roger Goodell was just like, you know what, we're going to do a game on the like, remember the Titans field on this day. Let's just say hypothetically. No, no. It's it's. No, no. T.C. Williams High School, the it's it's the NFL. So the Browns and Packers play a 430 and the Colton Cardinals played 815.

I'll be watching both of those. Sorry. I like I'll I'll watch the NBA, but the NFL will always just take whatever they want, whenever they want. Yeah. So I think the only maybe like the opening week in a March Madness. That would be tough. Yeah, I would watch March Madness. Yeah. But I don't think but the majority of America would watch the NFL.

Yeah. There's a ball is life for me. And then a vacation schedule. Opening night next book, Nets Bucks and Warriors Lakers. That's an October. What is it? Nets at Bucks, Warriors at Lakers. OK, I'm actually I'm really excited for this upcoming NBA season,

more so than I've been in a long time. I'm pumped to see the Warriors again. They're actually going to be the Warriors. Yeah. What else do you give us? The quick top three things you're looking. OK, so I'm also looking forward to the Washington Wizards, how they treat Bradley Beal as the guy now that he's no longer one of two guys. I'm also looking very much forward to Luca.

Can he get out of the first round or the second round? Can he get to the third round? And then I'm also looking forward to actually your bowls. Yeah. The additions that they've made in the off season. Lonesome ball. That's going to be great. Another thing to watch in the NBA this year is going to be the continued proliferation of the Clippers.

Can they get it done? Yeah. Will Dame get traded? Will he force a trade? Will he force a trade? It's going to be sick. I've got NBA fever, Dan. Damien Lillard is doing the he should just he can force a trade. Everyone can force a trade in the NBA. Yeah. He's pretending like he can't. Yeah. Just force a trade. Also, the Boston Celtics have market smart again.

That's going to be fun to watch. Yeah. Do you guys see a seven mil? Patrick Beverly got traded twice. Yeah. Two days. Yeah, that's tough. So especially the way that he was tweeting about it. And he was like all excited to join it. First, he was excited to go back to the Clippers and then he got traded. Then he tweeted out like grit and grind for the Grizzlies.

And then he immediately got traded again. Yeah. Tough. Tough breaks for Pat Bev. All right. Let's do our interview. We got coach Ron Rivera at Washington football team camp. Before we do that, you got a quick add. Yeah. Before we get to coach Ron, I want to talk to you guys about our great friends over at Logitech and their ultimate ears department. We love the essential technology that we use every day,

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It is grit week. We have coach Ron Rivera, Super Bowl champion, 85 Bears, coach of the Panthers, now coach of the Washington football team. Coach, thank you for joining us. We start every interview we do in grit week talking about what is grit? So what is grit to coach Ron Rivera? And and when do you know you see grit and how can you feel grit?

Attitude, I really do. I think it's all about your attitude, the way you project things, the way you handle things, the way you deal with things, the way you approach things. I talk to our players about attitude every day. And one of the things that happened, you'll appreciate this. From 1984 till about 1991, we had attitude in Chicago. We had grit. We get off the bus and know that was worth seven points.

You know, I mean, I mean, you really feel that to me, that's that's what it's about, especially in this game. If you have the right type of attitude, you have the right type of approach. People feel it. People know you're for real. So to me, grits all about your attitude, the way you project. I love it. And first of all, how are you feeling?

How's the health? You got energy? Where are we at right now? I'm feeling pretty good. My energy levels are that's that's the thing that goes up and down still. You know, I've been very fortunate. A lot of my tests have all come back and the doctors have all been pleased with everything I've been doing so far.

But the one thing that they told me is, you know, it's 12, 16, 18 month process. You're not going to feel like you normally do this time of year. So you just got to continue to work with it, stay with it. And so that's what I've been having to do is, is kind of, you know, work with it. And I have my moments. Yeah, you could have said for the grit question that grit is fighting the NFC beast and cancer at the same time, because I mean, a remarkable story. Inspiration, I would say, to a lot of people, what you're able to do.

And, you know, I was listening to an interview you had about, you know, even days when you felt like you weren't up to it, but you were there at practice and, you know, you were there for the team. I'm sure that that would you say that had something to do with how you guys performed last year, winning the NFC East and kind of coming out of nowhere as a team? I think so. I think it had something to do with it.

I mean, we had a lot of great stories with this football team and a lot of things that we had to overcome. I mean, Alex Smith's story is about as good as it gets. It really is. And I think that helped too, because I will say this, there wasn't a lot of complaining last year. And I think our guys, that kind of helped them to understand just, you know, I guess a little bit of what it takes to play in the NFL.

And the thing also that I really do appreciate is just really how the players handled themselves and where as professional as they were. So a lot of good things came out of some of the things that we had to battle last year and overcome. Yeah. I remember when Alex got into that game for the first time, I know that was a goal of his to get back on the field and to play. And he got hit.

And if you're going to choose one guy to get sacked by on your first contact, you're probably not going to choose Aaron Donald. No, probably go with a smaller guy, a guy that's not like, you know, the best defensive player in the league. Um, but when we were watching that, it was like, it was uncomfortable for us to see it, but we were also thinking to ourselves, like Alex probably enjoyed getting hit. It probably made him more comfortable.

Like knock some of that rust off a little bit. He got back into the zone. You as a coach, were you having to balance, uh, like looking after the health and well being of your player compared to knowing that Alex is competitor and that he wants to be out there and he'll be okay. Like how did, how did that balance work into your decision making? You know, it was, it was a little bit tough because, you know, I first really didn't know and tried to learn and understand to get a better feel for where

he was, but as things began to progress and you got to see him work more and more and see how much he's accomplished and how much he's pushed himself through. Um, you got more and more comfortable. And then of course we put him in the ball game against the Rams and hold your breath. Uh, and like you said, you'd much rather have it not been the, uh, the defensive player of the year. I mean, you much rather be, uh, you know, a little small corner or something

like that coming off the edge and, you know, bouncing off of him. But, uh, it was good for us to take that shot. Cause, uh, boy, he played with a lot of confidence. He really did. Yeah. I should have mentioned, by the way, at the top, we are outside at the Washington football team facilities. They were gracious enough to host us, but if you hear a plane going over,

that's why, uh, but it's, it's a great setting. We're on a football field, doing an interview on a football field with the bus right next to us. Um, all right, I want to talk about defense real quick. So you've been a part of some incredible defenses. Obviously the 85 bears, the 06 bears, this team right now that you have is special defensively. Yes.

Is there like a, a certain, uh, you know, thing that, that kind of, you can see in all three of those teams that you've seen now in this team. You're like, all right, they're special for this reason. I've seen it before because I've been around these kind of special defenses. Give me my driver, please. Cause he teed this up perfectly. That was a good one, right? Great.

Let you go for it. Yeah. I love the grip. Yeah. There, I really do. I think you could say all three teams have grit. They have the attitude that you look for in groups that they just know that, you know, if they go out and play their game, do the things they're capable of,

they give themselves a chance to win. And that's the thing I like about these young guys right now is I think they're developing that they're feeling that they know what it's like. You know, it's funny. A lot of people said, you know, why are you doing what you did last year? Why did you do that? You could have gotten a better draft pick, but what we did was we developed our football team.

We put our guys in position last year that they had to play down the stretch to get into the playoffs. So when you look at from Pittsburgh on, it was, it was playoff situations, circumstances. It was tough. It was hard. Um, and then winning and getting into the division, uh, winning the division, getting into the playoffs, we gained experience and that kind of experience

is invaluable because these guys now know what it's like. So they can develop that grit, that attitude you need. And, and that's what I'm starting to feel starting to see. Um, one thing I will say is that each one of those teams that I, that, that, one I played for, one I coach, and now this one, we had, we had a, uh, I think it started with the defense aligned, setting the tone for the defense more so than anything else. I mean, we had Brian or a lack of Hall of Famer, you know, we had Mike Singletary

Hall of Famer, but when you look at those guys that were up front, there was something about those guys that set the tone and the tempo for, for, for who we, who we were going to be as a football team. And that's what's exciting. So when I look at our guys, one of the parallels I see right away is I see that, that, that, that defense of line with potentially what can be guys that can have great career. So I'm excited about it.

And, and I feel like for, I mean, PFT can speak to it because obviously he roots for the Washington football team, but it's this weird feeling you have, especially in today's football with the offense, the way it is where you actually look forward to defense, you like look forward to your team playing defense because it's almost like we know we can suffocate whoever they throw at us. You know, I think that that's, that that's an interesting parallel to what a lot of people have looked at because it's always say, you know, defense wins championships.

Well, with the ability of so many offenses now to score the way they do, you have to be able to slow somebody down. And even more so, this will be true that, that a defense that can make plays at the right time will win the Super Bowl. Yeah. So on the defensive side, we like to pretend that we're smarter than everybody else. And we, we don't do the, oh, this guy is the best player on the team.

We do the, you know what? This guy is actually the most important player on this unit. So I'm not talking about like who, who's going to make the Pro Bowl? Who's going to be all pro on the defense? So I don't, that's my way of saying, I don't want Chase Young as this answer. But who is the most important player on that defense? Wow. That's a good question because when you, when you look at it, I mean, I could

give you several different guys for several different reasons. So, uh, more so than anything else, I'm going to say there's not one. There really isn't. Um, and, and, and I say that because certain guys serve certain roles. Jonathan Allen might be one of the best natural leaders I've, I've, I've been around really asked, uh, but then you look at John Bostic, who's, who's probably one of the most unselfish guys I've been around. I mean, here's a guy that everybody's been, you know, since I've been here,

has been competing for his spot. And all he does is work with these young guys and help these young guys and point these guys, young guys in the, in the right direction. Um, and so you, you know, you feel like a guy like that is, is the type of guy you want out there. Um, and then you look at the secondary and you look at the different mix of guys we have back there and, um, there's a kid named Jeremy Reeves. And to me, he epitomizes what grid is, you know, the kid comes in last year,

has a tremendous training camp, tremendous, and we're going to release him, but we're going to bring him back. And I say to Jeremy, I said, look, this was a very tough. This is our situation. We're going to bring you back, but if we bring you back, just want you to know, you'll have every opportunity to make it and be on the 53. We had some injuries and instead of bringing in one of my former players, I said to Jeremy, I said, I'm going to give you your shot because you earned it.

And I promised you I would. And by doing that, by me saying that and sticking to my word and then Jeremy telling the other guys, Hey, coach told me he stuck to his word. That has helped me. That has resonated with the other guys that if I say something to you, I'm going to follow it through. And that's what I did. And so maybe not just as a defense, but on the team as a whole, just this

young man, because of what he showed me and what he held me to, I think has helped me and that's why I think he's very important to us. Now, conversely, if we're talking about star players and how you coach them up, we, who is it Brandon Staley on the Rams that we talked to talk to him about like the responsibility that comes with coaching a generational talent on your defense, how do you, how do you coach a guy like, I don't know, like a Luke Keekley or Thomas Davis, even, or in this case, like Chase Young looks like he's going to be that guy.

What's your coaching philosophy in terms of do I put this guy in as many positions to make plays? Do I have him attack a certain way? Do I scheme him in a way that I won't scheme others? Or like, how does that factor into decision making? You know, what's interesting is, I got a little bit of advice from Jimmy Johnson, all the fame coach now. And he told me, he said, Ron, you're not going to be able to treat everybody

the same, but just treat everybody fair. And so what you try to do from the beginning with a kid like that, with a young man like that, is you want to treat him like you treat everybody else, okay, treat him fair. And then you hold him accountable, just like you hold yourself accountable. And that's kind of the thing that I've tried to do. You know, being around Luke Keekley, being around, um, Thomas Davis and, and Brian Earlecker and guys like that, you know, there's something special about

those guys, but they, they more importantly don't think necessarily about themselves first, but about their teammates. And that's what you see with Chase. Chase, if you watch him in practice and you watch him in the game, once after he's gotten done going through the adjustments, where do you see him? Well, he's standing over there cheering for the offense. He's cheerleading for those guys.

I mean, he's, you know, Montez, what gets a sack and who's the first guy to congratulate him? Chase. So guys like that, those generational type players are really epitomized the saying that great people, great players, raise the standards and the plays of other people. And that's what the guy like that does. Um, and you don't necessarily always try to put them in a place that they

always have success individually. You put them in position that the team has success. And that I think is one of the more important things because I promise you, when you watch Aaron Donald, they put him in position that dudes get in double teams, doesn't matter where they put him. People are going, Oh, there he is over there. But guess what that does? Now, if they're going to double team, they got to double team them some

way over here, and that gives opportunities for the team to be successful. Because now this dude's being doubled and we've seen that he's been triple teamed. Well, that's what we have to do with a guy like Chase. We got to put him in position that sure he can have success, but we can benefit from it as well. So you, we love being around football guys. You are a football guy who have been around football for so long.

You've been with some of the best coaches. You've been coached by some of the best coaches. What are, what's the lesson that you have taken from a guy like Mike Dicca and a guy like Buddy Ryan and used in your career as a coach with Mike Dicca? Honestly, it was, it was, and I got a real little story about that is, is coach Dicca never asked anything of us that he couldn't do. Okay. And I remember one time it was during training camp and I said, you know, and

he was, he was chewing our asses all over, just crushing us. So I said, it was a coach, you know, so we had a moment. I said, I said, coach, what the hell? I mean, you're, you're always honest. You're always pushing and pounding and screaming and yelling. I said, you know, why, what, what, what good comes of this? And he looked at me and he said, Ronnie, I would never ask you guys to do something I didn't do.

And it hit me, it dawned on me at that moment that son of a gun, this dude's a hall of famer. Right. So he has a high ass standard. I mean, it is up here. And he believes that because he'd been up there, we can be up there. And so it made me just realize that. And so of our players, I try to make sure they understand what the standard is,

what, what's expected of them. And I think that helps our players, you know, with Buddy Ryan, it was always about us, team, us, group, us, always us. And we fight for us, everybody else, you know, but us. And, and he had this way of, of, of getting it, everybody to pull in together. And he always stood up for us as a team and then as a defensive unit. And, you know, and, and I know one thing is he never wanted Coach Dicca to yell at any of, any of the defensive players.

So Buddy would always take the brunt of it for us. But then he'd come back and he'd give you a piece of his mind. And, but, but, but believe me, I mean, you, you feel, you feel like, dang, dude's willing to step in for me, man. That's, so I always thought that, Hey, you know, if something happened, I would always take the blame. I would always say, Hey, these shoulders are broad enough guys, I'll take it. And I learned that, you know, I mean, I learned tremendous lessons from being

around Coach Dicca and I learned some great lessons being around Buddy Ryan. And it's a good point because you can see as a, as a viewer, the difference in a team that is playing for each other and their coach versus a team that's a bunch of guys that are playing kind of for themselves. And it's, it's, you know, it's, it's the difference between championship teams and teams that are just kind of going through the motions, so to speak. Yes. Yes.

And I think that's the thing that you, you want to find out first and foremost is, is will everybody fit? And obviously not everybody's going to fit. The sooner you find the guys that don't fit and, and, and, and get rid of them or get them to buy in the quicker you can have success. And what are your thoughts about getting rid of ping pong tables in the, in the locker room? Because I screwed up, I kind of, I threw Tress way under the bus unintentionally

when we spoke earlier and said that our guy, Jake, he's the best in the office at Barstool, that we had to schedule a tournament with him against Tress Way. And you told me, wait, I thought we took that ping pong table out of the locker room years ago. So what's your feeling on like, when is it time to take away a ping pong table and when is it time to let the ping pong table come back into the locker room? I think when you're, when you're getting started, when you're trying to develop something and create a certain type of situation, the things have to be focused

on what's important. Okay. Now what's interesting, it's interesting that he's the best ping pong player in, in, in the locker room. But right now the most important thing is we're the best team we can be. And so that's kind of why I'm, you know, when I came in and, you know, I know I got, I got a lot of critics, people don't, didn't like that idea, but that's okay because at the end of the day, that's how I'm going to do it.

And, and one of the things I learned from, from, from watching some of these great NFL coaches, and I'm talking about the current ones, you know, when you watch Bill Belichick and you watch Andy Reed, who I had a pleasure of working for, and you watch Sean Payton and, and, and Pete Carroll and, and, and, and what these guys have all done is they've done it their way. They've done what they believe is the right thing to do. Because the other day, if, if, if I walk out of this building, just like I walked out of Carolina when I got fired, I did it my way.

And I could say I did the best I could. And I felt good about that. And that's what I'm going to do here. No matter what happens at the end of the day, when I'm done, said and done, and I do walk out and you know, I do drop the mic, I'm going to at least be able to say, Hey, I did it my way guys. That, that, that I really true to believe is important. You're making a lot of sense because now that I think back through it, the, the

vast majority of all the interpersonal conflicts that we've gotten into as a podcast over the last six months have centered around that ping-pong table. That's why I don't play. Really? Yeah. So it might be time for us to wheel that thing out. Yeah. Get it out of here.

It's not a bad idea. I also read that you, you had like an ongoing relationship with John Madden. Yes. Where you, you introduced yourself to him when you were a teenager and you kind of kept that up over the years. Yes. It was that something where like every summer you'd be like, okay, it's Madden week.

Got to go hang out with John and hear him say cool things about football to me. Yes. What it was, was it was after my second season, um, my previous owner, Jerry Richardson had, had, had, um, had said to me, you know, you need a mentor and I got the perfect guy. I think you should reach out to John Madden. So I reached out to coach, I called him and we got to talking and I said, well, I'd love to come visit and he said, absolutely.

So I was going to flat the pleasant in California where he has his offices and he says to me, he says, Ron, I want you to do me a favor though. I know you've got this dubious distinction. You're three and six, 13 games that decided by six points or less. Go back and look at those losses and, and, and, and study and see what you could have done different. So, okay, great. So I do those things flat to see coach, you know, I got this nice little report

and we're sitting and we're just kind of BS and initially, I mean, you walk into his office, it's like walking into the hall of fame. I mean, the Raiders hall of fame and there's all this Raiders memorabilia. I mean, there's some really cool stuff. He has a seven man's Crowder sled in his parking lot. He does. I kid you not. Just sitting there in the parking lot and I thought it was the craziest thing,

but it's cool, but it's, that's him. Yeah. So I go in, we start talking and just as we're getting ready to get down to business, I said, oh, here, I pull out and I said, here's my, here's the homework he gave me. He said, what's that? I said, well, that's that thing you had me go study those games. He goes, that's not for me.

That's for you. I said, really? He goes, yeah, he goes, what did you learn? I said, I learned. I did things by the book. You know, I felt like, you know, I kicked the field. Go here when I should have. I punted when I should have, we blitzed here.

We did this, you know, and he goes, how to work out. I said, well, yeah. He said, Ron, you know enough football, you've played enough. You've coached enough to go by your gut instinct, by your experience of what you've done. That's what you need to go on. All that other stuff. And it made me realize I was doing the safe thing.

That's the safe thing to do. Cause how many times? Oh, well, you know, he did what he was supposed to. I did the right thing. Well, if it had been the right thing, we, we could have won. Yeah. So that's one of the things I learned from, from doing that with coach bad, and you're right.

Every off season up to a point, it was, I would call coach, we talk. Um, and I said, Hey, I'm coming out. Love to come and see. He said, Hey, come on. And I would go see him. I'd spend time. I've got this, this, these immaculate notes that, that I kept from him. And I, and I, and I still have them.

I still read them. Um, one of my favorite, one of the first things he said to me, he says, don't ever forget you're the head coach. You are the head coach. He said, when you forget that, that's when you're in trouble. And, um, I've always tried to remember them. It sounds like that was the birth of riverboat run. And I, my question was going to be, what's your biggest regret in your career?

And why is it when you tried to be analytical Ron, the worst nickname ever, when you have the best nickname ever in riverboat run? Cause you do remember that you tried to get everyone to call you that. And that was terrible. I think I had a tweet. I looked back and it was like, Ron Rivera is trying to give himself the worst nickname of all time, analytical Ron riverboat. Ron is incredible.

I want to, I want to play for riverboat Ron. Yep. It does roll off your tongue. Um, and, uh, and God bless her. My wife, she went ahead and she copy wrote that whole thing. She got a logo for it. I got a silver on that club car cart that I got right there. I love it.

Put the logo on a seat right there. Oh yeah. So do you, do you say to yourself every now and then like, all right, it's, you know, a situation late in the fourth, you could go for it. You could punt, you could play the safe way. And you're like, Hey, you're riverboat Ron, like let's do this. Uh, I don't put it that way. I do think about it at some of the strangest moments.

Um, and it's funny because one of the checklist things I go through is when would I do that? Um, I have this little chet checklist that myself and my, um, my chief of staff that we review. And as I go through it, one of the questions is, am I going for it on fourth down? Where am I going to go for it? Are we going for two?

What are we going to do? How those types of, so, so it's thought out before we get into it. But, um, to, uh, to go back to your, uh, your original question, because I had a good answer for them. I'm trying to remember what the question was. The analytical Ron, why did you do that? That was a big misstep. No, what really what it was all about was, you know, becoming riverboat

Ron, um, and, and as you said, the biggest regret I have is not necessarily that, but the biggest regret I have is initially when I put my first coaching staff together as a head coach, I did not have a guy that had any head coaching experience on my staff. Okay. And, and so I really didn't have anybody to fall back on and I would feel odd every now and then, like when I did talk to coach Reed or I did coach talk to coach Turner, you know, um, you know, that I was, you know, I was getting in their

way stuff. I saw a kind of, and I didn't quite have those, that, that understanding or somebody to lean back on or as a sounding board. So going to see coach Madden really kind of opened my eyes onto, you know, Hey, that's what you really need. You need a mentor. You need somebody that has been through it and which led me to one of my, you know, I have a bunch of sayings.

This is one of my favorite things is don't draw me a map unless you've been there. Now, all of a sudden I've got people that have been there telling me, Hey, do this, think about this. That's why listening and talking to different people like a John Madden, like a Jerry West, like a Jimmy Johnson. I mean, those things that carries weight because these men have done it. These men have experienced this.

And, and so when you get to that position in your, in your, and you're looking at having to make decisions, you know, I don't want people to necessarily think that I'm just throwing it to the wind. I have truly thought these things out. I mean, Riverboat Ron gambling on a play has been thought about before the game. You know, we do this every Friday as myself. And we have an analyst guy that sits down with me and a couple of coaches and we go through situations that happened the week before to other teams.

Fourth down situations, punt or go for it, field goal or go for it. Two point conversion here and we talk about those things and we discuss it. So, you know, I just didn't want people thinking that I'm just, I'm just that guy that's, you know, rolling the dice every time I get up there and I got to make a decision. I mean, these things are definitely planned out, thought out. And, and we do have, we do see the analytic numbers, you know, as well. Everybody has them.

And those are just tools to help you make your decision as far as I'm concerned. Well, we consider ourselves to be kind of analytic specialists in that we specialize in exactly one game scenario. So we're going to give you a pop quiz here. There's two minutes left. You're down by 14 points. You score a touchdown. You go for two.

Depends. Truly going to depend on who you play. If you're playing against, if you're playing against, let's say you're playing against the worst defense in the league. OK, you're going to go for two. Why? Because you're going to believe the next time you're going to score. Yeah. OK, now you give yourself a chance to win. But you do, you do believe you're going to score again.

If you're playing against one of the best offenses in the league, you may feel you may never get the ball back. But sometimes it's the rhythm of the game. We played a game in 2013. We're playing the New Orleans Saints and we're playing them in Carolina. It was a hell of a game. I mean, it was an absolute great game. And I'm trying to remember to score exactly, but I think it was 13 to 10.

They had the lead and there was about three minutes left to go in the game. We had two timeouts left. We had the ball. We're driving. We get stopped, absolutely stopped. And I decided to punt and I got crushed. We punted the ball and the commentators even said he should have gone for it. But that day, think about it. We had we were we were fortunate enough to stop Sean Payton.

OK, and drew breeze to only 13 points. All right, and I really felt we would get another chance. But I was getting killed for it. I appreciate that. We stopped them. They punted. We got the ball back and I figured two timeouts, two minute warning coming. We have a chance to get into field goal range, tie the game and see what happens. Not only do we get into field goal range, but cam through the touchdown that gave us the win. OK, and we inevitably ended up winning

the division that year for the first time in like eight or nine years. But the point being is that there's no two situations that I consider and tell you right now I'm going to do that. Yeah, I can't. There's no there's nothing that tells me I know exactly what I'm going to do against our opener, against our Thursday night game, against our next Sunday game. I can't tell you what we're going to do in those first three games until we get into that situation to see how we're playing, how our opponents play. It's nuanced and it's probably a smart answer.

We just always say go for two. Go for two. We don't learn that one thing. Yeah, yeah. And we rotate it without applying critical thinking to it. No, which is great. I mean, again, the best part about it is that you might not ever have to make that decision. Yeah, I would say that. You never know. You might call us in. I play a lot of Madden. I was expecting you to say our name when you're like, Matt, you know,

talk to coach Madden, Jerry West, like Big Cat and PFT. All right. So I have one last question. It's the mattress firm question. Unjunk your sleep. Go see a specialist mattress firm dot com. Get started today. I got to know what did you say to the defense? Two thousand six Monday Night Football Bears Cardinals, the great comeback game when, you know, everything they're down 20, nothing, you know, fumble return for Peanuts, fumble return for I think Mike Brown.

Round their ass. Yeah. Yeah. The Bears are who we thought they are. The famous game. What did you say at halftime down 20, 20 to nothing? I told the guys that we had basically outsmarted ourselves and we were going to play man coverage for the most of the second half. We were going to line up man to man and find out who the better team was at this point. We weren't going to try and trick and dick anybody.

We were going to line up and go at it. And I don't know if it was because of me, but I will say this. I know this much when you watched the way Brian Erlacher played and took over that football game, the way the defensive line rose up. The plays that happened. I mean, those guys, it was it was great. It really was. And it's a tribute to that football team that we were able to come back and win that football game.

It really is. And I really do think that, you know, there are certain guys that that no matter what the situation will rise up, Brian Erlacher most certainly was one of them. I mean, you answered it, though. If you just say in front of your team, no more tricking and dicking. Let's go. Let's just find a play. And I mean, that really was.

I mean, I go back to it and look at some of the things that I've done and said Pittsburgh game last year and Monday night, OK, just before the half. I figured, you know, we're going to, you know, we've got a chance for it down. You know, let's go for it. We were in our own territory and we got stuffed. Our defense boat is neck. We stopped him on the goal line, got the ball back on downs. Went down, kicked a field goal.

I went in a locker room and first thing I said to the guys, hey, I screwed up. That's my fault. I made a mistake. I should have never, you know, I put too much on you guys. And one of the defensive guys said, not coach, we got your back. Man, when they when he said that and it's something that resonates with me, I mean, the appreciation I have for for knowing that that's how the guys felt about that. That was awesome. I mean, that really didn't.

And obviously, we were fortunate enough to win. Yeah. And my last thing, we already talked to Mr. right inside, so he's been very upfront with the whole name change process. And he told us what the team name was going to be next year. What do you think about that? Um, I like the idea. I think it's it could be cool. It's going to resonate very well with all of our fans.

I think the logo will be a real neat logo. It'll go well for our marketing department. I think the fans are going to love it, fall in love with it. And I'm really excited. What was that name again? I was waiting for you to tell me. Believe me, that's great. Coach speak, you're really answering the question.

Yes, I was in a little rock came out the transition lens. That's why. So when they get darker, that's riverboat. Ron, when they get lighter, it's a little yes, it is. That's exactly what's the crazy part. If you look at the logo, my wife had made, you know, she she she made sure the glasses were tinted. Oh, I love it. I love it. Well, coach, thank you so much. We really appreciate it.

Best of luck this year. We know PFT will be living and dying with every every game. So well, I appreciate PFT, you know, become one of our fan ambassadors. Yes, yes. That was your boss. I wouldn't go that far. No, no, my understanding was that I could hire and fire you at my will. Really?

Put the ping pong tables back in. Well, yeah, first sort of, yeah, if we, yeah, if we went four games or ping pong tables back in second order business, you need to install some designed laterals downfield. Yep. So to receive that catches the ball. So you said, like you talked to people that have been there before, that have accomplished things. You might have heard about my career.

I played for like the ninth best rugby team in the United States back in 2011. Designed downfield laterals. Just dump it off. If you can draw them up, you drop the plays, get a receiver open, have a guy trailing them. If you're confident that your guy can catch it, that's going to be open. That's going to be a chunk play every time. That's going to be the next revolution in football.

And I, I want to tell you so you don't, you know, get, you know, five years down the line, you're like, damn, I really wish this downfield lateral business hadn't caught me off guard. I'm letting you know right now it's the future of football. Big guy, you notice how I looked like I was interested? Yeah, that was good. That was good. You're good with the media. You know, I will tell you this, there is a high school football program.

No, seriously, no, there is a high school football program that they've instituted that it's all about. Once the play happens, it's going now. Next guy gets into position and lateral just like that. You got to be safe with it. And you got to, you got to drop a place. And maybe it's just one pitch per play. Don't try to, you know, break the framework of football with it.

But you see it happen occasionally where they do a hook and ladder. Yeah. But, you know, there's other ways of dry of drawing that up. That's not just a strictly hook and ladder that I actually think will change the game soon. Just let you know. I'll take your lead. You're ahead of it. All right. Well, thank you so much, coach. Really appreciate it. I appreciate you guys. Thank you very much.

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Now, here he is. Pro Football Hall of Fame President David Baker. And now for something completely different. OK, we are here in Canton, Ohio. We're at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. We're here with our host, the press president David Baker. Can we say friend? Friend, friend. Yeah, friend.

Yeah, friend. Thank you. Pals. Thank you for having us. This was incredible. We did a whole tour. Just incredible. Like the it was it was a football guys or girls dream to walk through the halls of Kent.

So we appreciate it and we want to say thank you very much for a wonderful day. We have something important, though, we have to discuss. So for listeners of this show, people who know, but maybe they need a quick recap, our goldfish, Larry, Larry, too. The 2016 NFL season, he went 60 percent picking against the spread. One of the greatest goldfish of all time, if not the greatest true football guy through and through. He passed tragically and we then in the summer of 2017,

buried his body in a tree under a tree in the shadows of Canton and the shadows of the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio. In the stadium park. It was in the app right right behind right by a nice, beautiful stream. We had a bunch of people show up. It was a somber evening, but it was a celebration of his life. Yes. And then heartfelt. Yes. In an even more heartfelt moment, probably one day afterwards,

we've got a cryptic message from a terrorist organization. It was probably just a couple of drunk guys. They had robbed his grave. They had literally stolen the dead body of our goldfish. We never talked about it because we actually thought it was so such a horrific thing. We didn't want to give them any type of, you know, light or give them any credit or anything like that.

Flash forward. We're here four years later. We go down trying to find Larry's tree, the tree that we we buried his body underneath. The tree is gone. It has been cut down. Stolen. I don't know why.

Stolen. I don't know. Deforestation is a real problem in the world. I didn't think it had spread to Canton, Ohio, but apparently it has. And to say that we were heartbroken would probably be an understatement. P.F.T. and I were standing by the river having an apology off, demanding apologies from each other because we couldn't figure out where the tree was.

I was like an old couple. Big cats like, no, it's down the street. And I was like, no, I don't. And then we got mad at each other. And it was all because some some vandal. It's not enough to steal the body of our dead goldfish. They had to go ahead and steal his grave marker, too. Now I know how the ancient Egyptians felt.

I know why they built pyramids to keep grave robbers out. It's it's I think it's a sign, though, that Larry and his spirit, his soul, don't deserve to be outside. He was an indoor fish after all. Yeah. So what do we have to do to get Larry into the Hall of Fame? Oh, a remnants, a token, a trinket, a sticker in the archive somewhere. Somewhere.

Well, we can we can certainly put him in the archives. OK, because we collect all. That was easy. Jeez. All right. OK, thanks. And you've met John Kendall. Yeah, it was incredible.

You write us a letter. We can put it in there with the letters we have from Walter Camp and from, you know, Teddy Roosevelt about the game and everything like that. But I need a heartfelt letter from you guys. OK. But but in your history, if I could kind of put in one other thing here, yeah, we met for the first time, what, about two and a half years ago? Yep.

I think it was Super Bowl 54 in Miami. And you came to my room and I couldn't get you out. I mean, you guys, you know, kind of like squatters. She stayed there the whole deal, rated the mini bar, all that stuff. But you told me the story of Larry. And we started thinking about Larry and stuff like that. And we started. How can we heal that hurt in you?

That is deep, core, exceeded that, you know, about a loss that, you know, you get somebody to tell you 60 percent against the spread. I mean, you're losing a little cash in that. Yeah, right. Yes. So so what our staff have done, you've met John Kendall, our archivist. And we've got a lot of guys like this that are, I mean, they're the best in history, they're in preserving history and the documentation of it.

We've got six million pictures, 40 million documents, a whole lot of artifacts here. What you see in the museum is only 2 percent of what's here. So what we did was we especially recruited this goldfish right here. Okay. This is not Larry. Yeah. But this is Goldie.

Goldie. Goldie is a gold jacket goldfish. Okay. And Goldie has been around our gold jackets. Goldie has been in the archives for about the last year. Really? Just by Osmosis picking stuff up from the archives are, you know, all our Hall of Famers are John Kendall and all the guys there.

How do I know you didn't buy this goldfish today? Well, I don't think he would lie to us like that. Would you lie to us about this goldfish? You know, our values here at the Pro Football Hall of Fame are commitment integrity. But it's Goldie is a very special goldfish. I can tell you that. It's not our Hall of Fame. Yeah, no, I can see it right here.

It's a Hall of Fame goldfish. Clearly from the Hall of Fame. But I think when you take this back with you, okay. Wait, we have to take this with us? We don't have a great track record. And we don't have a great track record at keeping goldfish alive. It's a gift and we've nurtured this thing. It's dead.

So that you could get, I think you could maybe get 65, 70 percent against the spread. I just want you to know, because what you're doing right now is you're passing off a murder of a goldfish to us. So I want you to know your hands are dirty in this. This goldfish isn't going to make it. We're going Cleveland and then Buffalo. It's not making it to Buffalo. If you want, we can keep it in our account. Okay.

Yeah, you can. We will take care of it because we don't want anything to happen to it. Yeah. Because again, this is a special goldfish. Okay. This is a gold jacket goldfish. I mean, that's out of the deal right there. You guys may not know.

You guys may not know, but I'm a lawyer too. So I took criminal law. The last thing I'd want to do is be implicated in anything the two of you do. Yeah, no, it's good. It's also like possession is 90 percent of the law. You currently have possession of the goldfish right now. But we'll keep it. But just like everything in our archives, there's stuff like that that's donated to us,

and we're stewards of that. Yes. So we're going to be a steward of your goldfish. You will own this. Yeah. But we will be stewards of this. Okay. And we'll write a letter?

Well, we can write a letter. I also think maybe what we can do is can we send you a trinket or some sort of fish toy representing Larry, maybe a tiny plaque commemorating Larry to put inside this goldfish tank to be with this goldfish. That way there is. We can put whatever you want there. As long as that's in the building. I want a million dollars as well.

Okay. You want a million dollars? I want a million dollars as well. Let me make sure I'm here this way. You want to donate a million dollars to the Crow Football Hall of Fame. It's a not-for-profit corporation. This is such a great moment of view. Give me the Lombardi trophy.

I don't know. You were saying yes to everything, so I thought we'd just push the limit here. Well, you know, I think it's wonderful of you to make that kind of donation to the hall. And I want you to know that we can give you a charitable deduction for it because we're not for prostitutes. Okay, great. It's almost like it's incredible. It's paying you to donate.

Yeah. And with all the money you guys are making, it's easy. $75,000. Do this for the gate. $82,000 now. Yeah, $82,000 in an episode. All right. So this is actually great.

So we're going to, we had such a great time and we're going to talk about it and we'll tell everyone go to the Crow Football Hall of Fame, go to Canton. I think what we'll do though is we're going to have an official letter with maybe even a list of the games that Larry picked in his win-loss record with possibly a trinket. We're going to, this is giving Billy is going to have to do all this stuff. And we're going to send it to John. And really, if we're just being honest here, a little sidebar between just the three of us guys, if John throws it in the trash, that's fine.

Just tell us he didn't. Yeah. And we're cool with it. Just tell us that it's in the Hall of Fame somewhere. Right, right. He can throw it away, but just you tell us that it's here. Yeah. Well, it's, we will take good care of it.

Okay. Okay. Preserve it. I will tell you, while we have a lot of fun, we are real serious about the history of the games. I mean, hopefully John was able to show you. Oh, it was incredible. You know, there's, right now, there's about 355 bronze busts here. And the line to go through there during enshrinement is like a couple hours long.

Yeah. And people stand in line to go through. But what I will say is everybody who ever played the game, I've got a son who played the game. He was the first round draft choice, 23 overall by the Atlanta Falcons in 2008. They'd also picked Matt Ryan to protect. Sam was a left tackle to protect his blindside. He's got an archive here. Everybody who played a week has an archive here.

We want to keep their history, not just what they did, but if they want to come in here and be on camera with us, we can put in what they learned from the game. And not just what they did, but who they are. And if you were to go downtown, there is Centennial Plaza, which is, I think I mentioned this last time we were talking, the good people of Canton raised $12 million. I mean, who else does this for the NFL? Right. But they raised $12 million for a park that commemorates the first 100 years of the NFL.

And our archivist spent about a year and a half. And we've got listed down there all 25,474 names of the men who played in the national football league during its first century. Wow. And I'll tell you again, I know you guys get emotional about Larry, but you know, I do this every day. You keep history. I get to meet the greatest football players to ever play.

But when I went down there and saw my son's name, I'll tell you, I remembered the eighth grade when he said he wanted to play football. And then he started making goals of what he wanted to lift and what he wanted to do. And, you know, these guys have a history and their history involved a lot of other people and a lot of other sacrifice and something special. And they are the shoulders that this game stands upon. So, you know, we'll be glad to take care of Larry. I mean, we've got all the mascots and everything else for all the teams.

It was more than a mascot. But we are real serious about the archives and the history of the game and the legacies that these guys have left behind, even if you don't have a bronze bus. Yes. I was talking to John a second ago about the fact that I don't think it's a coincidence that the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Canton, Ohio. And every football coach either comes from Pittsburgh or this area of Ohio, because this is their amusement park that they go to.

Some people grow up and they go to Busch Gardens or they go to Disneyland, because that's close by. I think people in Ohio take their families to the Pro Football Hall of Fame and that gets in their heads from a young age, like kids that might not be athletic enough to play football at the highest level. They grow up. This is what's fun to them, is finding out about the history of the game. I actually think that this place gives birth directly to a huge number of professional football coaches.

Well, we think there's a lot of values here and everything. But let me kind of take that one step farther, PFT. You know, we'll have the Ohio State Buckeyes here on Thursday. You know, Coach Day will bring them. They'll practice on Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium. They'll have lunch here. I'll get to talk to them for 20, 30 minutes and then they'll tour the museum as well. He believes that's important for them.

The New York Giants will be in here on Saturday. Every year, Coach Belichick, who is a great student of history, brings the Patriots here. And I think that what you're talking about, it's not only great to know the game and the shoulders you stand upon, but these days, there's so much parody in the NFL that, frankly, this year, the difference between what will be 9 and 8 and 8 and 9 might get you in the playoffs. And that comes down to two or three games. And those two or three games just kind of come down to some character moments

for that offensive line or for a great receiver or quarterback. And I think, I know those guys, I know Coach Belichick and those guys feel that understanding the character of the game here and what guys have done might help them that little bit more that they need. Yeah. All right. Well, this has been an incredible day. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you for admitting Larry into the Hall of Fame. Yeah, we will send Larry. We will sell John something.

We will send him something and we appreciate your friendship. He's not going in the Bronze Buster. Yeah, no, that's fine. That's fine. He's not getting a gold jacket. Oh, he already had one, actually. We put one on him when he married him. He's not getting a ring of excellence, but he will be included in the Archives of the Hall of Fame. Okay. Yeah, no, we're just playing a semantics game where we're saying he's in the Hall of Fame

because technically in the walls somewhere. So that's our department. You'd actually be surprised how many people do that. Yes, yes. Well, we're in. But you know what, guys, it's great to have you with us. Yes. And I appreciate it. Every time I've been with you, I've had a lot of fun. Yeah. But I also appreciate the seriousness stuff and how much you guys

respect the game. You'll have fun, but you respect the game and those guys who play it. So back. Thank you. All right. Thanks so much. This is a magical place. If you haven't come to Cano, Ohio, you should come check out the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Thanks, guys.

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So you get to decide. You get to decide the order. You get to decide anything you want. Why don't you introduce it? Uh, we'll go. What is it? Oh, yeah. It's, uh, the worst places to fart.

That was Jake's idea, by the way. Yeah. I was going to risk it. No, it was on the list submitted. Okay. Okay, you chose it. Yeah. You did choose it.

Yeah. Very wise of you. The worst place, not the best place. The worst place is to fart. I'm trying to give credit to RWA. Okay, so who, so what's your order? What's your order? We're actually going to go, uh, big cat first and then clockwise.

Whoa. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I'm going first. The back to backs. Worst places to fart. Um, I will say, I will start with a crowded elevator.

I'm assuming all these farts are loud too, so people can see and they notice. They're like, Hey, you're the guy. When I was making the list, I was thinking loud and also that they smell. Yeah. So it's like, you can't, you can't get away with it no matter what. Yeah. People just look at you, crowded elevator. It's also the combo of that and the fact that it's usually strangers in an elevator.

You'd say, well, strangers doesn't matter as much. No, it's weirdly our brains work. We're a stranger. It's almost matters more because if you're in a place with a crowded elevator with people, you know, you're like, ah, whatever. I farted. People laugh. Yeah.

Right. So crowded elevator. That's my first pick. My first pick will be, that was a good pick. That was my first pick as well. Thank you. Airplane. Same thing with strangers.

You're, you know, you're going to be sitting next to them for X amount of hours. If you let one rip and they hear it, they might look over and not say anything, which is even worse because you're just sitting there in shame. Can't escape it. Can't escape it. They're probably going to get off the plane and be like, I sat next to it. It's due to rip the loudest fart. Yeah.

What an asshole. You know what's also really bad about that is nothing you can do when you're on a plane. That's usually the place that you want to fart the most. You need to fart the most. I will say that helps in the mascara. Yeah. True. True.

But yeah, the sound though. And also on a plane, I think everyone here is probably farted on a plane. You know, you're like, Hey, can I can I get this off without? And then it's just like, Oh no. Or if your headphones on, you don't know that's. Yeah. Yes. That was if you don't know that you farted.

Yeah. You have. Does that happen? Well, you don't know if it was loud. You know he farted. Have you ever farted and been like, I didn't realize that we'll get to it. We'll get to it. Okay.

Maybe. All right. My first one is pretty simple one in a car while you're on a date. Especially if it's a new relationship, still getting to know each other. There's like a like month or two feeling out period. Sometimes before you really just, you just let the cheeks go. And when you're in the car, there's no escape in it. Although on the other hand, kind of like on a plane,

after they get out of the car, that is top three fart. Yes. Yes. Okay. My first pick will be during an interview. First impressions or everything. Yes. That fart could be the end of your job.

Yes, it could. And your career. Oh, like a job interview. Yes. Yes. Step brother. Yes. Yes.

Okay. Then for our second pick, we're going to go with in class. Good pick. So you guys are both picking in this Mount Rushmore. Yes. Okay. It was still, I was still part of my team. It was load advantage.

Yeah. Yeah. That's right. That's right. That's right. Okay. Good picks guys. Good for me.

Yeah. Good picks guys. Someone salty. All right. By my next one, you know, man up and pick. I'm going to say my teammate wouldn't let me. Oh, wow. Okay.

I'm going to go with in a library because it's a double whammy. One, it's silent. Everyone looks at you. And two, it's like insult the injury factor of you being in a library. Yes. Big time. Which sucks if you're not farting. Silence and then maybe a wooden chair.

Oh, terrible. Yes. Making a bad situation even worse. Terrible. I'm surprised he's got back to me, but I'm going to go with a subway. I did. This did happen when I was living in Brooklyn. I had headphones.

I was going to work. And then, you know, when you're going through, you know, gaseous periods, like you, you have farts, you know, if they're, if they're louder or they're silent, like it's not like a one or the other. It's usually like you have a spell of gas and it's either ripping ass or it's just silent, maybe but deadly. I had been, you know, going through some silent but deadly ones. So I got in the train, I had my headphones on the fart comes.

I'm just like, yeah, these, these have been silent all day. Just let it go. And like three people turned. It was like kind of crowded. It wasn't like, you know, chest to chest, but like people from both sides, turned after I did it. And I knew like that was not silent. Yeah.

And people, people heard. Brutal. You know what the worst is when you're in a situation like that and you know that you're going to get tweeted later, even if they don't know if they're not like, hey, this is Hank from Barstool. But you can just tell if they're a certain age that they're going to wait till they get off the subway and their next week is going to be like, this guy just was on the L train and this guy just farted next to me.

It's going to be a fucking yik yak. Yeah, it's going to be all over the yik yak. I'm surprised this got back to me during sex. Terrible time to fart. Horrible time to fart. If you're having sex and you fart, it's really like, because it's also, you know, bare ass. There's not, there's nothing really stopping it. It just happens.

And then what do you do if it just smells, then it's really bad. You can play that off. It's, it's bad. It's bad. All right. I mean, if you're getting pegged, it's tough to squeeze it out. It's a bad scene. All right.

Got to plug yourself up. And then I'll go with a work meeting. So multiple people when you're in a conference room and you're sitting there and you fart, you guys did interview, which I think is different because you're not hired yet. I'm talking about a work meeting. I'm just screwed up by the order. Oh, you just went, you gave one sex. Right.

And then he doubles and goes back around. You're okay. I'm lost in a snake. Yeah. Work meeting. I lost in a snake. Work meeting is a terrible time to fart. Agreed.

Uh, hmm. Yeah, I don't know. You got to do the thing where you stomp your shoes when you fart. So everyone kind of mask it. You guys ever cough? Yeah, I cough when I fart sometimes. Yeah. I'm running out of picks here.

I'll go with doctor's office. Hmm. Good one. Because then they're going to be like, you know, what's going on there. Yeah. And you're like, I don't know. I like had pizza for lunch. Son, are you okay?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's something. Do we need to get in there and inspect it? Are you dying? Like, yeah, like that smells like something's wrong with your bowels. Yeah.

And then I wait, wait. Nope. Nope. You just went. Yep. Billy screwed up the whole fucking snake. Billy. Billy, you killed the snake.

All right, I'm going to go with a funeral. Fart at a funeral, probably, probably not a good, I've never done it. But I can't imagine that it would be fun. Yeah. Probably get a lot of looks. The only, the only like okay part, I mean, it's not okay to fart at a funeral. But if you're like at a funeral home, those kind of smell weird. So you can kind of like mask it a little bit.

Yeah. It's not a good thing to fart at a funeral. Also, if it's like a really funny sounding fart, I could actually see that breaking the tension a little bit. Yeah. Especially if the person that just died loved farts. Yeah. But you, you know what?

That's him looking down from heaven above. Life finds a way. All right. You guys have two picks now. Crowded sauna or steam room. Oh, yeah. Because one, no one's talking. Yep.

Two, you all are in close proximity in the heat. And it's a wet one. I think sauna, I think steam room is worse because of the wetness. Yeah. Yeah. Ugh, gross. I can hear it. Yeah.

Ugh. I taste it a little bit. Yeah. It gets aerosoled here, right? Yeah. Ugh. Bad news all around. Gross.

All right. And our last pick will be in a pool because there's visual evidence. The bubbles. The bubbles in the hot tub though. I see a little dissension in this team. And what are we going to say? That's the really easiest place to hide a fart. No, because it bubbles up.

You can see it. Yeah. Yeah. Who's looking? Just splash. Or fake it and try to get our team points. Sounds like Jacob Yikyakt. About a fart in a pool.

No. Oh, okay. All right. This is the, you guys have not been able to do a draft together in a while. Because last time you kicked Jake out, it's tough times. Guess what? It resulted in a win. Yeah.

Okay. 50 year last pick. So all of mine got picked. All of them did. Does getting head count? You said sex. I think head's worse. I think that counts though.

I think it's like any type of oral sex is sex. But the face and nose is so much closer. I mean, okay, I think that's the same thing. But can I put it up to the room for a vote? I don't want to. I mean, you did kind of pick two with your first pick. I'll give you head. In a car while on a date.

Yeah, you did. So you could just, you could just, that was bad Hank. Yeah, you could just split your picks up. That was good. You could just split your picks up. We had date on our big board too, but it was taken. Yeah, you did in a car on a date. But I think it's too late to split it up.

So I won't say getting head. You can't move your head. What about giving head? All right. Well, then I'm just going to say after you're already dead, because then you don't get the pleasure of farting. Okay. It's just annoying people around you.

Okay. I don't know. I had to add a little on that one. You do a dentist's office. From the grave. From the grave. Yeah. Well, farting like, you know, in the next like two minutes

after you die, when your body is still. You could be a G and say a helicopter. As a worst place on my private plane. You wouldn't hear it on a helicopter. But all right. This, I think is a little bit different because big cats had sex, but that, you know, you could be having sex with anyone. Mine is more specific where it's like it's in bed.

If you're with someone you're not too familiar with. Yes. Like similar to PFT is like you said, like a month or two after a while, farts can be like an icebreaker. They're funny. I think that's fair. Just feeling it out. And like, you're not having sex.

You're just in bed. Maybe she's sleeping over. Yeah. You're Netflixing, chilling. And you're farting. And then you just rip a fart and it just, you know, fish bowls the sheets. And she's like, she knows it wasn't her.

That can ruin a relationship. I think this is one of those Mount Rushmore's that like it's a cell phone because I do think I dominated this and I still have a pic left, which means I just fart way too many times in bad places. But the easiest, I'm surprised this lasted directly after a sneeze because everyone looks at you like, dude, you can't control any part of your body.

Like you're just a fat piece of shit. So that is the worst because then everyone just laughs at you and like that sucks. You're not only sneezed, but then you're so like, your asshole is so loose that you farted too. Oh yeah. Like anytime that you're doing another motion, and people can tell what the mechanism was

that pushed that fart out. Correct. So like if you're squatting, if you're squatting, and you fart at the bottom, people are like, that's really embarrassing. I had on my list tying your shoe. Yeah. When I go to or doing any type of athletic movement

and everyone's like playing ping pong in the triple S. Yeah. Your body can't. Yeah. That's true. I wouldn't know. Your body can't do two things at once without just farting. Like it's just a terrible experience to have,

bending over, like jumping up. Everyone's like, dude, you can't just do anything without farting. It's air hitting the ejection seat in your body. It's like, I don't know what's going on here, but we're about to crash. Yeah. Again, I think this is a cell phone of a Mount Rushmore because. I don't know what that, what does that mean?

I dominated the worst places to fart Mount Rushmore because I have so much experience. Why does that make it a cell phone? Because I have so much experience of just farting at terrible times. I still don't get what a cell phone has to do with that. Okay. Are you talking about, are you talking about like. Are you saying a cell phone?

Cell phone? Like you make calls? Oh, a cell phone. Oh, are you serious? I, I, what? It makes sense. I, I. I'll be honest, I heard a cell phone too.

Really? Yeah. It makes sense. It makes sense. It's more than anything's I think. Cell phone makes more sense. Yeah. That was why I was confused.

You understand my confusion? Yeah. Yeah, now I do. But I did not understand. So I was like, what are you talking about? I basically, out of myself is a terrible farter, which I don't think is a surprise. I'll sell you a new price.

Yes. All right. Let's finish up this show. A cell phone? Are those. It's not a bad place to fart. Hypothetically. In Roger Goodell's chair.

Hypothetically. Yes. Hypothetically. It is not a bad place to fart. All right. Do you guys like farting in the shower? Yes. Yeah.

All right. Duh. Dude, I like farting everywhere. Pack bar, that's also was a good, that was a miss. A pack bar. You can get away with it. You get away with it, but you're just a terrible person.

I hate you. You start sweating. Yeah, but that could be fun. You're drunk. It's just like, let's, you know, let's have some fun guys ready for this. Yeah. Watch me fart and just watch like,

watch as everyone just like has to move out of the way. And then just start yelling at your friend, be like, tell your other friend, like where it's going to start yelling at him. Yeah. What about real quick? You want to do four best places for it? Like just amongst us, just like a list of only four.

The shower. Shower, great. In bed by yourself? Yeah. After a long road trip or like car ride. Yeah. And getting off an airplane, I would say. Yep.

Also maybe going out of a movie theater. Yep. That's also pretty nice. Movie theater is also a terrible place to fart. A bubbling hot tub. Oh, good one. Little yin yang for Jake there. All right.

Let's do, let's finish up the show. Hank. What's this new segment? It's guys on checks. So we're talking about grit and work, hard work. So we figured we'd do something a little different for grit week. For the work advice.

Yes, yes. How do you alpha a boss who plays power games? I think it depends on the type of power games that they're playing. I think you play into them. I think you let the boss think that he's winning. Yeah. Sun Tzu or the war. Incept him.

Incept him into thinking every idea that's yours is his. And then or hers. We're a progressive podcast, girl boss. And then so that way they think that they're kind of controlling everything, but really you are. I think also a really good way is if you get a compliment at work, you should tell everybody that, oh, it's really your boss that like set you up for that, even if it's not.

Yes. And then that will, trust me, the dividends will be paid much more that way than just being like, thank you for the compliment. Yes. Hey boys, happy grit week. So I have this thing where I shit and I like to use wet toilet paper. When I shit at work, I'm going to stall and have no access to a sink. And as a result, I bring a water bottle in with me.

This usually ends up with water all over the bathroom floor. And the other day a coworker questioned this and I explained my system. He looked at me like I was a psychopath. Yeah. Let me just stop. You're a psychopath. Am I the only person that does this? Yes.

Thanks boys. Yes. Wait, say it again. They bring a water bottle like a full spring water bottle. So that they can wet their own toilet paper. Yeah. Where when I shit, I like to use white toilet paper. Just buy some dude wipes.

Buy some dude wipes. Yeah. Buy some dude wipes. Just. Yes, you are a psychopath. That's insane. Buy some dude wipes. Hey, bang and chains boys.

I currently am an arborist and go to people's houses to tell them. I thought that was going to be one of your words. You laugh. Yeah. No, you nailed that. And tell people's houses to tell them what's wrong with their trees. Some of the people at these houses are attractive single women. What's some advice on getting myself into a Johnny sins kind of situation?

Talk about wood. Yeah, there it is. Do you like wood? I figured out. I noticed that this tree needs some trimming. This. Wow, this woods really hard. Yeah.

You want me, you want to take care of your bushes too while I'm here? Wow. Something like that. Yeah. Wow. This is a really, really big piece of wood that you got right in your backyard. Yeah. Do you like it in your backyard or should I?

Should I bring it in through your back door? You literally are like, that's the easiest question of all time. You're built for terrible sex puns. And also being an arborist seems like the biggest crock of shit job, but you just show up in someone's house and be like, you know, that tree sucks. You're going to get some tweets. You're going to get some tweets from being like,

dude, you don't know what happens when a tree gets infected. You just show up and you're like, yo, that tree, that tree fucking sucks. Yeah. Too soon. That tree's going to fall on your house. After what happened to our tree, I think it's all too soon. That's true. Which tree?

The Larry tree. No. Yeah. Then we talked about at the beginning of the show, which we didn't tape till after hard knocks. So it gets a little confusing. You guys haven't been in it. Sorry, people.

People pretzel right now. Yeah. It's hard. We willingly don't talk about certain things and then have to not reference them, which we just did. And now here we are, folks. I'm thinking ahead. Yeah, I know you are.

I'm willing to go on the job as an arborist for a day and just show America what a crock of shit is. Tree cancer is not a joke, dude. Not a joke. Worst thing they have to do at your job is probably like throw a chain around an oak tree branch. What about what about what about what about fire ants? Bring them on.

Fuck fire ants. You know I hate fire ants. They'll fuck you up. Identifying kudzu versus native plants. I can identify kudzu. It's whatever he just said. No, kudzu is an invasive species of vine. What about bees nests?

Yeah, okay. Yeah, that would suck. If you have to go. No, but that's then then you call up the beekeeper. That's that's their department. The beekeeper always comes out. My job stops where the branch ends. I don't know.

So we'll see. Some fellas, especially girdle cat. I don't know what that means. Is it because I wear a beater? People thought I was wearing Spanx. I wear a beater every day. What's a girdle? I don't know.

I think it's the thing that you tie around. Like have you ever seen an old Victorian TV show where they like tie up the chicks back and then she's like. That sounds like. Is that a corset? Yeah, that's a corset. It's good for back sweat. I have a sweaty back.

That's so my ass cracking back. I mean I would wear one of those little Spanx. Start wearing Spanx. That video showed perfectly why you wear an undershirt and what happens when you don't. Yeah, right. You have to even say it while we were frothing. He was like, why aren't you sweating?

Because I have a beater on. It was yeah, it was honestly disgusting. Just takes up all the sweat. I'm 28 and next in line for a big promotion when my boss retires. He's 63 and instead he thinks he has a few years left in him. How do I get him to retire early slash tomorrow? Kill him.

Thanks. Yeah, either you have to kill him or you have to start sucking so bad at your job that he wants to quit and get away from you. Throw him in front of a train, Frank Underwood style. Whoa. Spoiler. Yeah, true.

But no, you can't watch that show. You can't watch it. Because it's canceled. It's canceled. You can watch the last season. Yeah. I actually tried to watch just the series finale. I was so confused because I hadn't watched the last season.

It honestly sucks after the second. After the first season. Yeah. Replace all his coffee with decaf. That's a great idea, Bill. That is the meanest. That's killing him would have been nicer. Because no, it's not like actually bad,

but he's like, oh, man, I'm tired all the time. I can't do this anymore. Oh, damn, Billy. That is. If you do that to me, Billy, I will kill you. Or soy milk. What is this, tits? A little estrogenic action.

Start getting really slow down. He's like either I could quit or I have to start wearing a bra. I think you could try to get him addicted to something instead of getting him off an addiction. You could start sprinkling just a little bit of heroin into his cigarettes, but then you'll enjoy the job more. And you'll be like, I can do this forever.

Yeah, I gotta get to work. If something happens when I go to work, I just feel great. All right. Kill him. I teach at an elementary school and I'm one of three male teachers in the building. Any ideas on how to promote sports slash sports gambling talk at the water cooler

and teacher science tried doing a March Madness bracket last year and most brackets had the team with the cutest mascot winning. Oh, yeah. Those ones usually do well. Well, first of all, I disagree with the take that just because you work with all females that they wouldn't be into sports gambling.

I think they just are all looking to talk about sports gambling, but they think that maybe their coworkers don't want to talk about it. What I would do in this situation is you have to do it very slowly. You got to start doing like random like, hey, you want to bet me I can't hit this shot,

like throwing something into the trash, little stuff like that. And then they're like, oh, that was fun. Double or nothing. If you double or nothing someone, you can have a bet going for life. You could also just start off by relating it to their actual job at work.

So you could say like, hey, if the Sixers went tonight, I'll clean off your chalkboard for you for the next week and then get like start doing some inner office. Do they sound chalkboards? I looked at made sense to me. So I think we both outed ourselves. Five. Whoever the person.

Yeah, that's actually a good chore. Whoever the person is that sold whiteboards to every school in America. That must have been the most lucrative sales job ever for like 10 years. Oh, yeah. And the markers. Fuck those markers.

They fucking after like three times, you can't use them. Can you still smell expose? Yeah, because if you don't put the cap on it, do they still have the sniffing markers? You probably. Okay, I can't compete with that. That was like we should end the show. I think I think I have to retire.

No cap. Yeah, Jake just killed it. I think we just witnessed the death of no. That's it. I think that's it. Let's do numbers. That was Billy. Oh my God.

Teachers would always complain about having to buy more. No, no, no. Don't say anything else. That was George Costanza. Walk off moment for you. Tom Brady's son is now a ball boy at the Buccaneers camp. So he's going to be handling Tom's balls. Oh, okay.

All right. No, I mean, like he now has a very complicit individual in his deflate gate. Got it. I was just saying. Anyway, also I'm going to be doing go to the part of my take. TikTok, follow it, watch the videos. All of the draft orders for eight team, 10 team, 12 team,

and 14 team leagues will be in a TikTok. Go to the TikTok. Follow please. So basically, if you ask for a draft order, just get all your names in a row and then Billy will pick. So if you have an eight team, he will show you exactly what the order is random. Over a thousand people, leagues, contacted.

Love it. In emails. This is efficient way to do it. Very efficient. So you can do it when we get back with the lottery machine? No, I was going to do it for tomorrow. How are you going to do it? I was just going to do random ones.

OK, cool. So it's random my brain. All right. Nice. All right. Speaking of random numbers. Seventy five. Ninety nine.

Eighteen. Sixty nine. Jonah's got five. Five. Got five. Here we go. Twenty four. Twenty four.

Kobe. Sharks are all about sleep when you're dead lifestyle. Yeah. That's there. Just say the puppies one again with the elephants. Yeah, that was fucking awesome. But you say the elephant one. Elephants look at humans like humans look at puppies.

Oh, love you guys. And now a dramatic reading of Take On Me by Aha. Talking away. I don't know what I'm to say. I'll say it anyway. Today isn't my day to find you. Shying away. I'll be coming for your love.

OK. Take on me. Take on me. Take me on. Take on me. I'll be gone in a day or two. It's a needless to say of odds and ends. But I'll be stumbling away slowly learning

that life is OK. Say after me it's no better to be safe than sorry. Take on me. Take on me. Take me on. Take on me. I'll be gone in a day or two. Oh, things that you say.

Is it a lie for just to play my worries away? Hear all the things I've got to remember. You're shying away. I'll be coming for you anyway. Take on me. Take on me. Take me on. Take on me.

I'll be gone in a day. Take on me. Take on me. Take me on. Take on me. I'll be gone in a day. Take on me. It's Pardon My Take, presented by Broseville Sports.