Pardon My Take - Wisconsin's Ethan Happ, CBB With Fran Fraschilla, And Zion Is Back
Episode Date: March 15, 2019Cleaning up NFL Free Agency. Kevin White goes to the Cardinals, Blake Bortles cut, and the Giants continue to make more sense (2:08-13:22). Zion Williamson is back (we taped early would be a real sha...me if he got hurt again) and we do the bracket of horniest dudes (13:23-25:24) Wisconsin Basketball Star Ethan Happ joins the show to talk about March Madness, fixing his free throw woes, and does Brad Davison practice charges in practice (28:19-47:54). ESPN's Fran Fraschilla joins the show to give you some dark horse March Madness picks, what to expect from the Big 12 tournament, and whether or not Zion made the right decision (49:23-1:13:59). Segments include Kings Stay Kings for James Dolan,(1:14:47-1:16:49) It's Louisiana who cares, (1:16:50-1:18:49) high idea that will revolutionize car services and FAQ's (1:18:50-1:31:58) You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's Pardon My Take, we have Wisconsin star Ethan Hap on the show.
He fixes free throws.
He talks about the tournament coming up, his career playing for the Badgers, his wet post
moves and his soon-to-be wet free throws.
We also have Fran Foshilla, who breaks down some Dark Horses for March Badness, some of
the conference tourney play that you're going to watch this weekend, some really good college
basketball content, and we have FAQs, some NFL free agency we have to clean up, and a
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Before we did, today is Friday, March 15th, a month before tax day, and boys, that's for
real this time.
Yeah, that's for real this time.
I do an extension, but boys, Kevin White no longer a bear.
That's what we're leading off with.
Oh yeah.
That's big.
Big time.
Well, bear for life.
Bear for life.
Rookie for life.
Was about to have his breakout year.
He's reportedly going to sign with the Cardinals, which will only help Josh Rosen's stat lines.
He finished his bear career four years.
How many receptions do you think he had?
PFT?
13.
You are so wrong.
He had 25.
Damn.
That's a great career.
I was way off.
So yeah, we're cleaning up NFL free agency, all the ins and outs, the moves, and that
one struck me.
Also Blake Bortles obviously struck us.
That's true.
I want to throw a flag real quick on Kevin White to Arizona.
I don't like it for one reason.
I don't like it when two wide receivers on the same team have the same haircut.
It's very confusing.
The Kevin White, I think, has cut his hair a little bit.
Okay, good.
Good.
Then I love it.
Great signing by Cliff Kingsbury.
Well, and also Rookie of the Year.
You got Rookie and a Rookie.
Cardinals are for real.
Yeah.
Josh Rosen or maybe Kyler Murray throwing a Rookie connection.
Yes.
Rosen is absolutely, he should be eligible for Rookie of the Year next year.
It would be hilarious if Kevin White just became like an absolute stud.
It would be great.
If you go from the seventh pick to 25 receptions in four years, that's hard to do.
You would hate it.
You would absolutely hate it.
No, I would love it.
You're just rooting for your former players to do well.
Oh yeah, I want him to actually win Rookie of the Year, one of these years.
If I was a brand new coach in the NFL, I would have no problem diving headfirst into just
getting all former first round wide receiver picks that didn't pan out.
One of them is going to be good, right?
Right.
It's the dumb brain theory that we have with free agency and front office.
If we ran a front office, we'd basically look around and be like, okay, they were a first
round pick.
Yep.
Boom.
Done.
And just get as many first round picks as possible.
That way people can be like, wow, look at this team with all these first round picks.
Yeah, they call that the Matt Millen philosophy.
So actually, you get Kevin White, Fat Mike Williams, remember him?
Yep.
From USC.
Malcolm Kelly.
Yeah, just basically load up on these guys that are very, very talented.
Corey Coleman is out there.
Yeah, he is.
He's a first round pick.
He is, yeah.
One of them is going to pan out.
One of them will pan out.
So the other news we had, the saddest tweet of all time, the Jacksonville Jaguars have
cut Blake Bortles.
We talked a little bit about it on Wednesday because we knew it was going to happen.
But seeing the tweet still hurt me very, very in a deep way.
It did sting because it's real at that point.
It's very real.
It's real.
If you have a relative that passes away, there's that two, three day period where you're kind
of in denial for it.
And then you go to the service and you're like, wow, this is real.
It's why at Jewish funerals, they have you actually put dirt onto the casket.
This is real.
So that's how I felt last night too.
Blake, he was too beautiful of a bird to have his wings clipped like that.
I'm glad he's free.
I just want to note that we are making a list, Hank.
You made a list of all the people that made jokes.
You're number one on the list, buddy.
He was making a lot of jokes.
Nick Foles, curse on you.
Also big news came out earlier today.
You see what John Elway had to say about Joe Flacco.
So John Elway when asked about his brand new stud quarterback, 34 year old Joe Flacco said
he's entering his prime.
We're very excited to have him.
I think Elway's figured it out.
So he's learned from his mistakes.
He's getting all these tall quarterbacks that aren't very good, but the problem is he's
drafting them.
So he's had such a terrible record in the draft that he's figured out that the problem
is that they were too young.
So now he's just going to be signing old guys that are six foot five and 220 pounds.
He also doubled down on his theory that he would never draft Kyler Murray because he
can't play under center and Joe Flacco can play under center.
John Elway has not watched football in the last 10 years.
I'm convinced of it.
He's probably everyone runs shotgun and he somehow has missed that entire wave and is
I guess if you're a Broncos fan and you want to feel good, you can probably spin zone yourself
into being like, well, with Vic Fangio and a tall quarterback under center, we are zigging
when everyone else is zagging or zagging on the zig.
If you have the number one overall defense next year, and that's of course in terms of
yards allowed, then you can probably win nine to 10 games with Joe Flacco under center.
Just handing the ball off to Joe Flacco.
He does not stink.
He's entering his prime.
Did you see Adam Schefter's tweet today?
It really got me going.
I'm sure you probably saw it.
I didn't.
I did see him though.
Adam Schefter season, just interrupting people on live television.
That was fun.
To our friend Scott Van Pelt.
Do you mind if I take this call?
Yeah.
Right now.
On air.
In your face.
And then tweet on air.
But what was the tweet today?
So today he was talking about going to Clemson's pro day.
Or he didn't go, but there were numerous scouts that went there.
And do you know who their offensive assistant is?
He was former quarterback, former first round pick, J.P.
Losman.
Oh!
There was a quarterback that was slinging the ball around and looked so good doing
it that the scouts asked him if he would consider a comeback to the NFL.
First round pick, theory.
And he said no.
I bet you John Elway would absolutely consider J.P.
Losman.
Without a doubt.
Without a doubt.
He wants that.
Last time he threw a pass I think was 2011.
That's okay.
He's fresh.
Yeah.
He's got, he is ready to go.
We also had another chapter in the New York Giants.
What the hell are you doing?
So they traded O'Dell Beckham on Tuesday night.
Everyone said okay great.
They are committing to losing which I actually want to throw this out there.
I actually think the NFL you can't really actively tank in like you can't say before
the season we are trying to lose because it's such a hard league to stay in for the players.
And if the players know that it's like all going to fall apart very quickly.
Well either that or since all the players are very, very talented at that level.
You know some teams obviously have more skill talent and things like that.
If you give your players a little bit of motivation by having everybody in the media saying that
they're tanking.
Yeah.
They'll fuck up the tank and they'll end up going 6 and 10 or 7 and 9.
Right.
But I think like if they draft Wayne Haskins and they still start Eli Manning that's going
to be a problem because like what happens to the NFL is if you see that your team isn't
playing the best players it falls apart very quickly.
So I feel like Dave Gettleman is going to get another coach.
He's going to get Pat Schermer fired and he signed Golden Tate which is not only he's
old I think Golden Tate is a very good player.
He's feisty.
He's feisty.
He's old.
He's redundant in the talent they have.
He costs money.
He cost a pick and now they're trying to win again.
Yeah.
And well is there such a thing as a coach killing general manager because I think Gettleman
might be up there.
That's what he's doing.
He's a coach killer.
The quote machine is a coach killer.
What I see them doing I don't see them going for Dwayne Haskins.
I feel like in Gettleman's mind that would undermine Eli's confidence in himself.
Oh wouldn't want to do that.
No wouldn't want to do that.
I feel like this is a Will Greer situation.
It might be Will Greer landing spot.
Okay.
We'll groom the next quarter.
A little later in the second round maybe.
Yeah.
You're going to want to get he's going to draft like a free safety or a wide receiver in the
first round.
Or you know what Gettleman really should do.
Kyle Schumer from Vanderbilt that Schumer son.
That would be that would be awesome.
If Eli Manning had to deal Archie would just name himself the offensive coordinator at
that point.
You want to play this way.
You ain't going to sit my boy.
I think that Archie probably signed Golden Tate.
He's like you need you need to have Eli have weapons yet is statistically best year last
year.
Yeah.
Get my get my boy.
Another one.
Oh man.
So that's NFL free agency.
I think it's all kind of we obviously it's winding down.
Yeah.
All to the Jets.
But we all knew he was going to the Jets.
Oh real quick.
I want to throw this out there.
Haha.
Clint Dix.
Yes.
Signed a one year with the Bears.
Yes.
Never said a bad word about him.
As first reported.
By who.
Who.
My dog.
Oh you're addicted to breaking news.
My dog is.
Yeah.
Was your dog right on Eric Berry.
I got to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're they're having conversations right now.
Oh got it.
Yeah.
So Leroy was first on the haha.
Clint Dix news.
What.
Embrace debate.
PFT thinks that ESPN will someday credit Leroy.
I do.
There's no chance.
I'm going to keep this going.
They don't even credit us.
I'm going to keep this going until somebody.
Now it doesn't have to be ESPN but it has to be like.
I thought we said it had to be at the bottom line.
On the ticker.
Yeah on the ticker.
That will never happen.
That will never happen.
I'm going to I'm going to say either Fox Sports counts ESPN NFL Network or NBC.
What happens if he's wrong though.
One of the four.
What do you mean what if he's wrong.
He's not wrong.
Okay.
He's got the dog into it.
They can fucking tell when earthquakes are coming.
I think they can predict.
But this is Eric Berry to the brown.
This is a slippery slope where it's like when you watch a game with your dad and he predicts
every play and gets every play wrong and then one's right and he's like I should be
an announcer.
Okay.
That's what's going to happen.
Leroy's going to predict everything.
Leroy's got it.
And then he's going to get one right and be like where's my credit.
No he's got a good nose on him.
He's sticking out this news.
Okay.
I mean right now he is one and a half or two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One and a half or two.
That's pretty good.
That is pretty good.
That's a hell of a batting percentage.
Yeah.
You'll get into the Major League Baseball Hall.
No one's ever done it before.
Also the other news.
Teddy Bridgewater is returning to the Saints.
So Reece scratched that off as a landing spot for Blake.
Mm-hmm.
He spurred or he spurned the Dolphins which is kind of a repeat of what happened on this
day in NFL history back in 2006.
Yeah.
When Drew Brees signed with the Saints.
I like to play a little fun game about the Dolphins.
You ready for this one?
Yes.
It's just called Name Three Dolphins.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Ryan Tannell.
Is he still on the team?
Yes.
Okay.
They're going to cut him.
But I'll give you that one.
Yeah.
Cam Wake isn't on the team anymore.
Is he?
I would assume he is.
I think he is.
Yeah.
He is.
No, no.
He's on the Titans.
He's on the Titans.
As of yesterday.
Fuck.
I got one more in me.
I just don't know.
No.
I think I can do it.
Yeah.
What else?
Well, you have your computer in front of you.
I'm not looking.
Kenyon Drake.
Okay.
He's reading the roster.
No, I'm not.
He's reading the Dolphins roster.
No.
All I got is Tan Hill and Kenyon Drake so far.
I think.
No.
You got any Dolphins in you?
Ronnie Brown.
Ronnie Brown.
Good.
That works.
Yes.
By the way, if we're talking about breaking news, I have breaking news update on the
Blake Portal situation where he's going.
I actually spoke with him late last night and I said, where are you going?
And he said, no clue.
Okay.
So there it is.
That's close to any.
No clue.
Wouldn't it be more of the Panthers than anything?
Yeah.
NC.
That's what it sounds like to me.
Yeah.
He's on his phone right now.
Hank, read that text live on air.
Whatever it is.
Go.
Actually, no, I got the same text.
So don't.
All right.
So that is free agency so far.
We have college basketball.
PFT is upset that he didn't get the text.
Yeah.
It actually was Blake saying where he's going, but we're not going to read it on there.
We have college basketball.
We're in the thick of March madness conference championship week.
The moments where you're just, there's like 56 games today and the most important news
that's coming out of college basketball.
We're going to get to some more with Frank Shill and Ethan Hap.
But Zion Williamson is now healthy wearing Kyrie fours.
No more Paul George.
Smart.
Smart.
And Hank.
Kyrie has never had a devastating knee injury.
Never.
Hank, you look like you have a little pep in your step and you're back.
I never went anywhere.
I've never been worried.
There was never a single point where I was worried and I'm going to continue to not be worried.
Now, do you think, would you be a little bit worried?
The fact that it's coming back before the tournament, it gives him what, how many games
are they playing the ACC tourney for?
Uh, yeah.
So, uh, yes, you know, I think they would only have to win three.
Okay.
This is Saturday night would be the championship.
So three games.
That's three opportunities for him to re-injure his knee.
Yes.
This is basketball.
It's not football.
It's not any of these other sports like basketball players need to play basketball.
It's true.
You were right.
It is not any of these other sports.
I like that quote that Hank just gave basketball players need to play basketball.
It's, it's not any of these other sports.
You know what?
No, but that's what all like LeBron.
That's what all these players, even Blake Griffin said it.
It's, it's, you have to play.
I've heard it.
It's dumb.
It sounds dumb saying it out loud, but you got to play.
It's almost Confucius like in its simplicity.
Yeah.
And I've heard.
Many people have said that about me.
Blake say it.
I've heard you say it.
I heard Charles Barkley say it too.
Basketball players play basketball.
Basketball is basketball.
Football is football.
We say that all the time too.
That's true.
The standard is the standard.
You can't change it.
Ball is, I mean, big cut notes is better than anyone.
Ball is life.
Ball is life.
And if you're not ballin', then you're not livin'.
Yeah, it's true.
Ball is life style.
Do you think he has better cardio because he wears that polo shirt with a button all
the way up to the top?
It restricts his air.
So he has to like, he has to make more out of the oxygen that he does get in.
I feel like that look doesn't work for anyone who's borderline chunk.
Yeah.
It looks like you're just suffocating all the time.
Like whenever I have to put on a tie, I almost kill myself because it's like I'm suffocating
my neck.
I feel like what he realizes is that if he put the button down, he would have had to
wear an undershirt and he would have looked like a noob.
Yeah.
We wanted to get point.
I don't know.
I feel like the second button on Zion's polo is still pretty tight.
Yeah.
The whole thing is tight.
It's a major skinny neck guy move.
If I were injured, I would just wear the jersey, full uniform.
Tequila Spikes couldn't even wear a polo shirt.
He had to wear just crop tops.
Yeah.
Two tops.
Paul James Winston.
Remember that time when he got suspended and he just showed up in full pads and they're
like, dude, you're suspended.
I got a new segment alert.
Are you guys worried?
No.
I'm not worried at all.
Why would I be worried?
Because of Duke Winsor Championship by, what was it?
20?
Yeah.
Double digits?
Not happen.
Yeah.
Not with an injured Zion.
So you're not worried?
No.
All right.
No.
I'm just not at all.
No.
New segment alert.
Ask me if you're marching.
It's called, I'm going to show TFT a funny drawing where Hank can't look at it and we're
going to both laugh.
It's actually from our very talented, someone who works with us, Trick Draws at Trick
Draws, very funny Twitter account.
So this is a picture he sent me.
That's pretty good, right?
We're going to make a sure to that when Duke loses.
That's pretty good.
That is pretty good.
So that was show PFT a picture and don't let Hank watch.
Look at it.
Oh, Bubba, you want to, Bubba, come here.
You want to look at it?
I'm going to say this.
We'll extend this segment a little longer.
Here we go.
That's pretty good, right?
Oh, man.
Here, Hank.
Ready?
Ready?
Did you see?
Oh, someone's mad.
You mad.
You mad.
I'm not mad.
I'm not worried.
You mad.
You mad.
All right.
Because it's also college basketball.
We alluded to this on Wednesday.
We just threw this idea out there.
It's going to be bracket season.
Everyone's doing a bracket.
Everyone's making fake brackets of things.
Also shout out for the win for doing a podcast bracket and leaving us out of it.
That was actually a smart move by them.
Who would have dominated?
Honestly, I don't give a shit.
People, I appreciate everyone defending our honor, but they had to keep us out because
it would have been like a wolf in a hen house kind of situation.
Like a duke in this year's time.
Not really.
I don't know.
Also shout out, check out Jeff Lowe from Light Scammer Barstool.
And by the way, subscribe to their podcast if you like film or movies.
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Let's do it.
Yeah, just do it for me.
Okay.
Come on, guys.
Let's get a 64 team bracket of the best fast food slash fast casual restaurants in America.
Oh.
It's already got like 20,000 votes on it.
So go vote.
Okay.
Pretty good.
All right.
So here's our bracket.
We talked about it.
We're just going to throw this out there.
We talked about it on Wednesday.
It's the sweet, what are we calling it?
The sweet.
The Skeet 16.
The Skeet 16.
The hornyest dudes in the world.
We're going to do something fun.
So P.F.T. and I are going to say the names Hank, you just give us a one through four seeding.
And you're going to pay attention.
Should a high seed be worth more?
Because if you have more seed, then you're hornier, right?
That would be too confusing.
You know what?
Let's actually do something a little different than that.
Let's go.
No seeds.
And the winner of this bracket is the first person to come on the show.
Okay.
Yeah.
Not come on the show.
Not that way.
No.
Yes.
C.O.M.E. on the show.
What if they just send a video of them like.
Jerking off.
The winner of this bracket gets an honorary membership to the Rain City Jax.
Perfect.
So if you know any of these people on the list, some of them are dead.
So you can probably say whatever for that.
If you know any of these people on the list and you want to get them on the show, if they
come on the show, they will win horniest dude alive.
Some of them are dead.
But some of them are dead.
That's fine.
We can talk to death.
Yeah, we can talk to death.
We are long overdue to talk to death.
All right.
So we're going to go down the list.
Number one, we have 16 teams, 16 guys.
Rick Petino.
Easy.
Easy.
Rick, come on the show.
Very easy.
But actually come on the show.
Please do.
Next one?
Next one, Bill Clinton.
So only person to get impeached for being too horny.
I actually think we have a chance of getting Bill Clinton on the show once Hillary says
she's running again.
And then they have to ingratiate themselves to millennials.
I want your vote.
There we go.
And your pussy.
How about Tiger Woods?
Very horny guy.
Yes.
Been on the show, but quite horny.
Although I think he's doing better.
I think he's doing better with his horniness.
He is.
But I mean, he had an all-time run.
Yes.
Like a dynasty of horniness for about 10, 15 years.
Yes, that Tiger book.
I didn't finish it, but I read some of it.
You were the only one that didn't finish.
Ray Allen.
Yeah.
So that's self-explanatory.
I'm getting there.
I want you to think about my dick and my tongue.
Nope.
I'm getting there.
When you masturbate, think about my tongue or your clit
and switching back and forth from my dick to my tongue.
Okay, Ray Allen.
Where are you going?
Anthony Weiner.
Hilarious that his last name's Weiner.
And he is the horniest guy.
He might win just by being Anthony Weiner
because you just think about the time he sexted
with his kid in the bed next door.
I think in the bed.
He's gotten caught sexting, I think, like a baker's dozen times.
Yeah.
Like seriously, he got in trouble for it.
He went to prison, and then he also got caught later sexting,
even after all that.
Dick did the sexting.
Okay, next up.
Next up, Brent Musburger, Uncle Brent.
So we all remember that the national championship game.
Old-school horny.
Yeah.
All right, one of our best presidents, Ben Franklin,
died of syphilis.
Mount Rushmore.
And herpes.
Right.
Can you die of herpes?
Invented herpes, I think.
Yes.
Patient zero for herpes.
He tied a kite to his dick and flew it in a thunderstorm.
Yes, exactly.
Next up, Mike Tarrico.
Ooh, yeah.
I'm just assuming with Mike, he just seems like a horny guy.
He's gonna throw that out there?
No.
He seems like he's all horny.
You don't like that one?
Okay, we have some extras.
We have some extras.
How about Phil Rivers with the 10 kids that he has?
Very horny.
Although, I'm gonna throw a flash on myself here.
I don't even know if that's horny.
I think that's just...
That's definitely horny.
It's efficient.
Yeah, it's just efficient.
I don't think that he's efficient.
I think that he has weak sperm, but he just fucks enough.
Okay.
I'll double up on that Antonio Cremardi as well,
because they're kind of in the same bracket.
Okay.
Should they be a tag team duo?
It could be a tag team duo.
The Chargers.
14 kids between the two of them.
Okay.
Next up, Henry VIII, all-time horny guy throughout history.
Dead.
Got married eight times.
Seven...
Wait.
Is that why he's Henry VIII?
He got married a lot.
I don't know the exact sabre metrics on how much he was married,
but he also died of syphilis or a committee or something.
And he's dead.
And he's also dead.
He's dead.
He died of being horny.
Yes.
That's enough right there, I think, to get him to the Skeet 16.
Yes.
Easily.
Mar-Valbert.
Let's throw Mar-Valbert out there, and I'll do another one.
The dude from American Pie who fucked a pie.
What's his name?
Jason Biggs.
Biggs.
So those movies were basically like Jason Biggs gets his dick stuck in different things.
Yes.
It wasn't just a pie.
All right.
Wrapping up, I think we have three left.
Let's throw him out there.
Seattle Slough, the racehorse.
Yep.
If you look at the lineage, he's sired something like two dozen Kentucky Derby competitors.
Yeah.
In the last, like, 20, 25 years.
Great life.
Great life.
RIP.
All right.
My last one is Tristan Thompson, who is continually getting caught cheating, and then re-cheating
and cheating again.
Also, like, you know, last week when we were like, hey, remember this?
And we were like, hey, remember that Dwight Howard just doesn't play basketball anymore?
Remember when Tristan Thompson just had that, like, it was maybe a sex vine, not even a
sex tape.
It was like a sex Instagram story come out?
Remember that?
Feel like we don't talk about that.
Instagram stories.
That's, that's where Rick Petino's wheelhouse is right there.
Yeah.
Also, now that I'm thinking about a Canadian basketball player, Drake also very horny.
Mmm.
Very horny.
Yeah.
He's like every song he's horny.
All right.
Last up.
He's got his own basketball facility.
Yeah, he did.
I'm going.
I feel like I was thinking, like, God forbid he comes out as problematic, that would
be awkward for the Raptors.
I'd say so.
Yeah.
I'd say so.
I think he probably has some skeletons to that close.
Well, how awkward?
Like always flame out in the playoffs and never win anything of note awkward or like
you can't really get more awkward than that.
It depends on what comes out.
True.
True.
That's very true.
True.
I'm going back to the animal well for the last one here.
Panpan the panda.
Okay.
So he, he single-handedly fucked his way out of extinction for the giant panda species.
So pandas are notoriously not horny animals.
They have trouble mating and captivity, not panpan, something like 15 or 25% of pandas
alive right now in zoos are his children or his grandchildren.
That's fucking badass.
Yeah.
That is badass.
And also, if you look at the pictures of panpan fucking, of which there are many, he's always
got the sly little grin on his face.
He's got a hell of an o-face.
Yeah.
Big time.
Yeah.
Big time o-face.
So all right, that's our bracket that we didn't put any seeds on or write down, vote.
Is that it?
Is that 16?
Vote.
Yeah.
We'll make a bracket.
Get one of them on the show.
Let's get, we will even talk to panpan.
I would love to talk to panpan's handler.
He might be dead.
Panpan?
Yeah, but he's got a big smile on his face.
There's sweet prince.
How could you?
Do you think Harambe fucked?
Duh.
Yeah.
We're so close.
You guys, you guys.
You're like taking chest shots.
What about Tilcom?
Who's that?
The whale with the droopy.
Oh.
No, he didn't even get his fin up.
No, he had like, he like invented killer whales.
Are we?
That's just not true.
Yes, it is.
All whales were like not like evil.
He was the first one.
He was the first evil whale.
And then he had like 25 whale kids that were.
Whale with a bad attitude.
And then that just, like he started evil whales.
Also, his name was Tilicom.
Perfect.
People don't talk about that.
Do you think this summer will be the summer that we can ironically bring Harambe back?
It's coming.
Not a week.
That wasn't a pun.
It is.
Right?
Like we can soon be like, hey, remember, because the internet moves so fast.
What do you mean by ironic?
Be like, yeah.
Yeah.
I've said too much.
I've said too much.
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Let's get to our interviews.
We have first up Ethan Hap.
Then we'll do Fran for Shilla.
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Okay.
Here he is.
Ethan Hap and then Fran Fershilla.
Okay.
We now welcome on a very special guest to my heart.
It is one of six players all time to have 2,000 points, 1,000 rebounds, 400 assists in
college basketball.
He is the star of the Wisconsin Badgers.
It's Ethan Hap.
Ethan, thank you for joining us and thank you for being a good basketball player.
I appreciate it, man.
Thanks for having me on.
Yeah.
Has anybody ever thanked you for being good at basketball before?
I feel like that's a good way to start now.
Yeah.
It's pretty rare, but yeah.
It's been done like a few times here and there throughout my career.
Okay.
So let's start with where we're at right now.
The Badgers obviously are about to play in the, when this airs, you guys will be playing
in the Big Ten tournament in Chicago.
Back in the tournament this year after last year, you're a senior.
Are you kind of trying to enjoy everything?
I know you did the Minnesota thing where you shushed the crowd.
Are you trying to enjoy everything and take it all in or are you trying to go for like
the Ethan Hap Revenge Tour?
Well, first I got to correct you.
I blew kisses to the crowd.
That's right.
Thank you guys for taking part in all of this.
There's a home crowd in Minnesota for you.
Right.
Right.
But yeah, I would say it's a little bit of both.
You know, you put so much time in and over the years, you've had so many people help
you along the way.
So you just want to enjoy the last couple seconds of it really.
But at the same time, being sitting at home and not being able to play in it at all last
year, definitely you want some revenge on that too.
Yeah.
That was definitely a weird experience because it was the first time, you know it, but it
was the first time in 20 years.
So it was weird to not see the Badgers in the tournament.
What would you say is the toughest place to play in the Big Ten?
Toughest place to play.
Probably Michigan State.
They're kind of on top of you at the court.
Or Michigan.
Michigan, the fans are, I don't know what it is about their student section, but they're
like ruthless.
They'll talk about my mom.
They'll talk about Acne.
They'll talk about whatever it is.
Just trying to get into my skin and stuff.
So those are probably the two toughest places to play.
Lay off the Acne guys.
That's fucked up.
Everybody's got Acne and Kyle.
Come on, Michigan.
Right.
They're probably saying that.
And there's probably someone right to their left or right that has deals like this stuff.
Yeah.
It's like, damn it.
Fuck the boot on the Acne stuff.
How many post moves would you say that you have?
Oh, jeez.
I mean, I would say I have like four solid ones, like go-tos, and then they're just all
imperfections off of those four.
Like depending on if I'm getting double teamed or what the defender is actually doing to
me, then I just kind of improvise from there.
So I'd say like a solid like four go-tos though.
Do you ever think like 40, 50 years ago you would have been the greatest basketball player
of all time?
I never think that, but I get tweeted that a lot.
People tweet at me all the time and say that I would have been like an NBA champion six
years running.
If I was playing back then.
Absolutely.
It is great.
It's a throwback.
I mean, the good post move, the way you're able to take guys down in the post is unbelievable
because like you said, you have four go-tos, but the improvising off of those four go-tos
when you just add things on and you somehow break ankles in the post.
Yeah.
I grew up being a guard and then I kind of had a real big growth spurt in high school.
So I kind of take that mentality down into the post.
I wouldn't say I break ankles in the post, but yeah, it's something similar to that
where the guys don't really know what I'm doing down there just because I have so many
options being able to go to my left or right hand.
Do you have a hook shot?
I know that the guy up in Michigan has been working on that this year, he's kind of bringing
it back.
Is that something you're trying to incorporate?
Oh, like a real hook shot.
Yeah, skyhook.
No, I mean, maybe I'll have to try and get that prepared for the next level, but right
now it's just a little jump hook.
The skyhook, that's credit to him.
That takes a lot of practice and then a lot of guts to pull off in live competition.
Do you ever stop during a game and think Big Cat's probably gambling on me right now?
No.
And I told myself when I came on here that I wouldn't talk about cover and spreads or
anything just so I don't get caught up in FBI scandals.
True.
Good point.
Fair.
But yeah, no, I never think about, think about, I probably have thought about him watching
us.
Yeah.
Just don't ever forget that video, the Florida video.
Which video was that again?
I thought that.
Yeah, you want to talk about that game, the Florida game at Madison Square Garden?
I don't recall.
That one.
I mean, not really, but we can do it.
Who took the loss worse, me or the locker room?
I got, I mean, I would say it's probably close to both.
It was probably equal.
You know, I know how big a fan you are for us and everything like that.
And, you know, both sides, we thought we had the game in the bag or at least we were going
overtime or something.
We definitely didn't think we were going to lose right then and there.
Yeah.
Wisconsin basketball is so funny because it's like in his football too, but I love rooting
for you guys and you guys have given me and my friends so many like joyous moments.
But also there's been a lot of heartbreak and it's, you know, it comes with the territory,
but we're always underdogs.
Do you ever, do you ever find when you're like playing a tournament game or maybe a
preseason game or a game in the, in the fall, a team will, will look past you guys because
maybe you don't all dunk and you aren't, you know, a ton of NBA talent.
Obviously you're going to be in the NBA, but the whole roster doesn't do teams look past
you guys because you don't have that flash.
I don't really think that happens too much just because they know how, I mean, it sounds
very Wisconsin, but like how sound we are and how many, how many times over and over
again throughout the years that we've showed up and beat teams that have way more athleticism.
And you know, that can maybe run faster or whatever it is.
Like the Villanova, the Villanova year, you know, that was one of the best teams in college
basketball coming back off of that.
Losing the championship to North Carolina and then we beat them.
And they save your team the year before semi freshman, sophomore year.
Those are two examples where, you know, we, we didn't have a more athletic team or a faster
team than those guys, but we were just more fundamentally sounding out of town.
Your teammates with probably my favorite college basketball player right now, that's Brad
Davidson.
Has he given you any tips on how to take charges?
No, he, he hasn't.
And you know, we, we love, you know, we love Brad and we love his like his grittiness that
he likes to take charges a lot, but, but it's gotten to a point where he, he almost has
to lay off from trying to take them because the refs, the coaches, you know, complain
about him all the time, the other coaches, and then they talk to the refs about it.
And then he's less likely to get a charge and more likely to get a block now.
The blueprints out kind of, that's kind of unfortunate.
Yeah.
It has kind of flipped on its head compared to what it was last year.
Does he take charges in practice?
Yeah.
Yeah, he does.
He's not just, he's not just when the lights are on type of kids.
He, he takes hearts in practice too.
Love it.
Do you ever during a game, like look up at the scoreboard and be like, damn, we only
scored this many points?
There have been times, yeah, especially in the first half.
Yeah.
The Ohio State game on Sunday was like four nothing with like eight minutes into the
game.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
There's, there's, but the important part is that it's four to zero.
True.
We might not be scoring, but hopefully more times than not.
They're not scoring either.
So that's kind of how we play.
Good point.
Um, so I have an idea.
I wanted to address this here.
Uh, you are a very athletic big man.
You've got a good shot.
You've had some issues from the free throw line, uh, this year.
And I have a suggestion for how to fix it.
Uh, it's called the Pimp Grip.
Have you heard of this?
I have not heard.
Okay.
So it's called the Pimp Grip and it's very effective way of shooting free throws.
Uh, you shoot the ball underhanded with two hands.
It's super easy to master.
Um, the ball hits the rim very, very softly.
So you get a lot of friendly rules in there.
I invented it.
Uh, again, it's called the Pimp Grip.
That's the name of it.
It's not called anything else.
It's pretty cool.
Okay.
Um, I tell you what, I got a, I
appreciate you trying to help.
Um, and I, I can acknowledge that I've been struggling and there's been a lot of
rainy days, but I do see some sunshine coming.
And I think, uh, I just got to stick through the process that I've been doing.
And, um, maybe I'll save Pimp Grip for after I'm done playing professionally.
Does it bother you?
Because like, I know I read like Greg guard says that you practice all the time.
And I know the type of guy you are.
It's not like a lack of effort practice.
It's just for some reason, the free throws don't go in.
Does it, is it something that like really sticks in your crawl?
Like really bothers you?
Uh, yeah, I'm, I would say it's pretty demoralizing at times.
Um, when, especially like you said, I, you know, I put in a lot of work.
It's not for a lack of effort.
I almost wish it was that way there would be an easier solution to fix it.
Um, but then you, you feel really good going into the game and then you miss one
or two and then it kind of spirals downhill from there.
Um, but those are things that I'm definitely actively trying to fix, um,
mentally and physically.
And, um, but yeah, I would say it does kind of eat at me a little bit.
Okay.
I got an idea for you.
So I've obviously, I probably have not helped in that case.
You did have, um, the stretch where you missed 11 in a row and it was a fantastic
streak, uh, but I probably shouldn't have even mentioned it.
So I'm going to reverse it.
I'm going to be all positive all the time on your free throws and I need you to,
when you get to the free throw line, just say in your head wet right before you
shoot, just go wet and it just like, it will change everything.
If you just say you're wet, it doesn't really matter.
If you make it or not, you're just mentally thinking, yo, I'm wet right now.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
So, so yeah, you're going to be, you're going to use power positivity.
Yep.
I'll mouth it right before I get the ball.
Wet.
If you see me do it on camera and you got to give me a shout out on the next
podcast, absolutely.
Well, and I swear to God, if you think in this, if you, if you get up to the line,
you're like, yo, big cat thinks I'm always wet from free throws.
Like you will, and I'm going to be tweeting it too.
And when you get to the free throw line in the big 10 tournament, I'm going to be
like, yo, Ethan, it's a new Ethan hat.
Like we have started over, we started fresh.
You know what's crazy?
You probably, you actually will not miss another free throw for the rest of the season.
Isn't that wild?
Yeah, that is pretty wild.
I'm glad we could get that fixed right here on the podcast.
Yeah, think about that for a second.
You missed, you have already missed your last free throw of the year.
That's fucking crazy.
Feels good to put that in the rear view.
Yeah.
Now that you shouldn't pimp grip too.
You're 100% as far as I'm concerned, saying wet at the free throw line.
I'm ready for this.
Like it is just because I think the crazy thing is like, you don't, you see
some guys shoot from this free throw line and it's clear that their mechanics are
off or, you know, they're, they're basically putting their foot over the line.
The Bron James, not going to name names, but you have like the fundamentally
sound, you know, shot.
So I think it's just a total mental thing.
You're wet.
All right.
That sounds like a plan, man.
I'll, I'll get it done in the next game.
Whoever we play that first round.
I mean, I singlehandedly made Alex Hornebrook, Heisman Buzz out of nowhere.
No, that was just because he was the talent level on the t-shirt.
And then the talent level, same with Bart Houston.
Yeah, that was all Heisman.
Everyone knows his Heisman campaign.
So we can, I feel like this is just like a believe it, achieve it situation.
I think you're ready.
You are ready to do this again.
I don't mean to knock you, but, you know, those, those things actually
didn't come to fruition.
So yet, but they almost did.
Hornebrook still has another year, but there were numerous people talking about.
Yeah, that's right.
He transferred to the Florida state, right?
It's fine.
I didn't say where he was going to win a Heisman.
Anything can happen.
I just say he was going to win a Heisman.
We're all about positive thinking.
So he's definitely going to win this.
That's the eternal optimism of Wisconsin athletics.
Yes.
Like things, things will be okay.
Yeah.
This is our year.
Um, what serious question for, for people who follow Badger basketball, what you,
you obviously bridged the gap between bull, Ryan and Greg guard.
What's the biggest difference between the two guys?
Or are they basically just, is Greg guard a clone of bull, Ryan?
There are a lot of things that are very similar.
I mean, down to like some of the sayings that they used to scold us in film.
But I, I don't really know.
I mean, it was tough because I only was with coach Ryan for like a year and a
half, um, and he only coached me for like half a year.
So I guess I can't really point out like us, you know, stark, um, differences in
the two of them.
They both share like similar values and, um, obviously the same offense and things
like that.
Yeah.
Um, taking a quick straw poll here.
Do you have a passport?
I do.
Oh, you do.
Okay.
Do most of your teammates have a passport just like off the top of your head?
Uh, no, we all do because we, uh, we just went to a New Zealand, Australia last
summer.
Oh, very cool.
Was there like a passport day thing where everyone had to make sure to get the
pictures taken?
Um, that, I don't know.
I had mine for a long time.
All right.
All right.
That was a terrible question.
No, it was a good question.
I'm trying to, I'm convinced that there's a passport.
He's got a theory that makes no sense.
I just think that there's passport day.
I don't know what that's like.
No, I've heard from other NBA players that, uh, there is passport day for some
players.
It's, yeah, forget that even happened.
Do you ever have a, do you ever, do you ever make a pass that's too good?
A pass too good?
Yeah.
Like when you passed to someone and it's like, I wasn't expecting it because it
was, because you're an unbelievable passer from the post too.
I actually, um, this actually happened, uh, last game, um, I passed it to Kobe
King and he like out of the post, I threw it like with my left hand and it went
like right to shot pocket and then he shot it in the air bulb.
And I went up to him.
I was like, do you want me to put it like somewhere else?
Is there somewhere else that you want me to put the ball other than like right
where, so he, uh, he, I mean, some people actually do like to catch it off their
body and then move it into their shot pocket to get like a rhythm.
Yeah.
But I guess that's one example of that.
Maybe.
Yeah.
No, it happens to me all the time where someone will pass it.
I just missed the layup because I was like, I wasn't expecting you to ever pass
it to get that kind of hitch.
I've, uh, seen some of your tweets about your stats.
Mm hmm.
So you, you kind of share the, you kind of see the game the same way I do.
Yeah.
I'm on the floor and a lot of similarities, definitely.
I don't, I only have one post move though.
And it's just to go across the post and kind of like just throw it up at the
rim and then try to get the rebound and put it back in first shot.
But I mean, at least you get a rebound.
True.
Padded the stats.
True.
Exactly.
Padded my stats.
Um, you declared last year for the NBA draft, but then you came back.
Can, can you walk me through how that process went?
Cause I'm actually curious about, uh, about kind of the thought process
between, uh, you saying, okay, well, I guess some of the mock drafts had you
going pretty high and then deciding to come back to school.
Like you didn't hire an agent.
Is that correct?
Correct.
Yeah.
So, um, so basically you, like you put your name in, um, just like you send a
letter to the commissioner, um, saying that you want to be eligible and then
you have a certain date.
I can't remember what it was that you have to pull it out or you're like, for
sure entered into the drafts.
Um, basically I just wanted to go see what feedback I would get from teams.
Um, and if they would be willing to take me, um, higher up than like it was
originally scouted for me to be taken.
Um, so I went and worked out for like eight teams, um, talked with some, some
of their GMs and head of scouting departments.
Um, and we basically came to the conclusion me and my family, um, that
would be better to come back for one more year, um, and, and get a little bit
better and then, and then try it again next year.
That's interesting because if I were a prospect, I would also be thinking like,
uh, are these teams being honest with me because there's a lot of smoke.
There's a lot of like things that get said by different general managers to
kind of like, you know, depending on where each team is going to be picked, uh,
or which team is picking.
Um, so for you, it was just a matter of like, okay, they
give you kind of an honest draft assessment and you're like, I think I
can go back, do better and get picked higher next year.
Yeah.
That's how, that's how it went for me.
I think with, um, more, I guess high profile, like first round picks, you
know, they might get lied to more, but for me, it was pretty straightforward.
Like, you know, we, we would see you picking you late second round.
Um, and then you might have to spend some time in the G league.
So like doing that kind of stuff that, you know, why, why wouldn't you
want to come back for another year?
Yeah.
Um, and play another year at Wisconsin.
You just, we just got to get you a three point shot and then you'll
be like the perfect NBA player.
You just get the, if you can hit corner threes.
The pimp grip, is that for three point shots too, or is that just free throws?
Just free throws.
High likelihood it gets blocked.
Just free throws.
In my experience.
Yeah.
Just free throws.
And again, it's not called granny style.
No, it's just free throws.
Okay.
Um, my last question, what is your favorite bar in Madison?
That's tough.
I mean, I don't drink during season.
I, so that's more of a summertime thing for me.
Yep.
Um, I also heard that, um, that's tough to do, by the way, to get a
lifetime band from karaoke kid.
Yes, I did.
Long time ago.
Yeah.
Wow.
I just want to know, I actually want to know how that came about.
I just, I refused to get off the stage.
Yeah.
I just refused and I went limp and I didn't give up the mic.
I went limp except for the mic and held the mic as hard as possible.
And then I dragged out.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
And then I, uh, I, I probably am not banned anymore, but I did go in a
year after and they're like, you can't come in.
And I was like, whoa, this is real picture up there.
Yeah.
I couldn't believe it.
I was like, okay, that's awesome.
Cool.
Uh, but yeah, that, that definitely did happen.
Is it even still there?
Madison's changed a lot, uh, 15 years since I've been in college.
But, uh, so, so what, what's, what's your favorite bar non-season?
Uh, I think our whole team, uh, we usually go to the W.
Okay.
Like it, it popped up like last year, the year before or something like that.
And that's kind of been the spot to, to meet up.
They have like a patio upstairs.
Um, so like in the summertime, when it's warm out, you can just go out and hang
out with your friends and do that stuff.
But yeah, maybe, maybe next time you're in town for both, both here, then we can
see what's what at the karaoke kids.
Yes.
So we can get you back in there.
I'd like to see big cat make his triumphant return.
Oh, try to get back in there.
I think they'd let me back in now.
I think I could get some pole to get in there.
What's the song though?
Uh, I carry on.
I used to do my move used to be just do tequila.
That song where you just say tequila, but I've done, um, woes.
I think I was singing night ranger.
Was it sister Christian Christian Christian?
Yeah, great song for karaoke.
What?
Yes.
Yeah.
The great tune.
Absolutely.
Uh, all right.
Well, we'll see you in Minneapolis.
We're going to be at the final four and you will be too, because you're not going
to miss a free throw and the Badgers are going to go on a historic run.
All right, man.
That sounds good to me.
All right.
See you guys there.
Thanks, Ethan.
Appreciate it.
Good luck this weekend.
Take care.
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And now Fran for Shilla and now for something completely different.
OK, we now welcome on Fran for Shilla.
He is, can we still call you coach?
I just called you coach and I feel like that made you hesitate.
It makes me makes me feel good about myself.
It gives me a little self esteem.
OK, great.
So coach, we got coach on the line.
It is we're getting into the conference tournament week.
We have March Madness coming next weekend.
And we figured you'd be a perfect person to talk to about
the upcoming March Madness.
Now, let's start at your, you know, the place that you do most of your work,
the Big 12, the first time in forever that Kansas didn't win the Big 12.
Will we see Kansas kind of rebound here and can they be a threat in March?
Or is it this is just not Kansas this year?
No, it's it's it's it.
Well, they're certainly capable of winning the Big 12.
Big cap because they're at home.
They're in Kansas City and it's an unbelievable venue.
I think it's the best postseason college conference tournament
because you always know it's Kansas City.
It's always Sprint Center.
Pretty easy for a lot of the school's fans to get here.
But most most years, Bill Self will tell you privately like,
look, we want to win the regular season.
The tournament's not as big a deal because we usually have to get ready
for the NCAAs and they're always primed to make a long run.
But after losing the regular season this year for the first time in 14 years,
I have a feeling they'll be a little more, you know, let's just say
they'd certainly, I think, like to make up for what they didn't get accomplished.
So I think they'll have a little more juice here in Kansas City.
And we'll see what happens because this league has been so balanced this year.
Six or seven teams literally were in this race probably until the final two weeks.
But I'm anxious to see how Kansas, you know, reacts to not winning the title
for the first time in 14 years.
It's an amazing run, but it's over.
Yeah, don't be fired up for sure.
Now, they were pretty good at home this year.
They kind of ran into some trouble on the road.
Is it was it? Are they too young?
What was the issue there?
What was the difference between the team when they were playing outside their home venue?
Oh, they had a lot of adversity this year.
They really did.
They were nine to know when they lost their big guy.
I was a boogie and then a guy that was off to a great start.
With Gerald Vick, who Bill Self, I don't even honestly think
he was sure he wanted to back for a senior year, but he did take him back.
Was on fire early and then, you know, gotten the coach's doghouse.
And that was it.
You know, he took a quote unquote leave of absence.
They've played it right.
You know, they get they open the door like, you know, theoretically,
hey, we may bring him back, but they announced this week.
They were not bringing him back.
And quite, quite honestly, as much as he was a good player,
their chemistry was not the same with him around.
And they're actually starting for freshmen right now,
but don't feel bad because they're starting for McDonald's all Americans also.
So it's, you know, it's a talented team, but they don't have to cohesiveness.
I think the K state of Texas tech app going into, you know,
going into this tournament this week.
So we're taking this on a Wednesday.
It's actually the day after St.
Mary's kind of shotgun zaga.
They were 14 point underdogs ended up winning by 14.
And you said after the game, it's just as much mental as it is physical.
So with that said, what coaches around the country do you think do the best
at getting their guys ready on a mental perspective?
Well, you know what, as you specifically talk about going into the big,
the NCAA tournament, and you know, you're going to have a lot of guy,
a lot of people listen into the podcast, filling out brackets, things that add
nature, anytime you, anytime there's a push,
you always got to lean to a coach who's had success in the tournament.
And it doesn't necessarily have to mean winning at all,
because Tom is always only got one national championship,
but he's been to the final four, six or seven times.
So when I, when I look at this time of year and I look for teams that are well
coached, particularly for, you know, for the NCAA tournament,
right off the bat, you think of, you think of guys like Izzo and certainly
John Beeline now who's taken his Michigan team to the final four a few times
and gone deep in the tournament. Obviously, Jay Wright, who's had great success
here recently, these are guys, Calipari, you can't discount Calipari
because this Kentucky team, as young as it is, is starting to really,
really play well.
It seems like 10 years ago that they got beat by a hundred to start the
season against Duke in the Champions Classic.
So, you know, I like to, I like to look in my bracket towards coaches
who I feel comfortable can get their team ready.
Because when you break down the NCAA tournament, it's just three weekends.
And it's, and you got, you're basically in a four team tournament each of those
weekends. So your goal as a coach with a good team, a team that can go far is
can I get my team to win two games this weekend and then go into next
weekend and try to win two more and all of a sudden you're in the final four.
So I think, I think coaching experience in the tournament does matter.
I agree. And one of my favorite things about March and in the entire seating
process is some of the conference homers out there.
They get very up in arms about their conference and we're looking at what
could be a hilarious situation if the ACC got three number one seeds.
Can you walk me through the doomsday scenario that would lead to the ACC
getting three one seeds and the rest of the country losing their minds?
Yeah, no, it would be, it would be, it would be hilarious because, um, you
know, you, you have a situation this year where you have seven or eight really
good teams, teams that it can all buy for number one seeds.
But hey, I thought last night that that was one of the first of all is one
of the coolest things I've seen.
I don't know about you guys, but I have never seen in my long, you know,
history around a game of college basketball, a team that could lose by 48
early in the year, come back and beat another team, especially the number one
team in the country.
So, um, there's going to be a lot of consternation, both good and bad about
Gonzaga and whether they actually do deserve a number one seed right now,
because that was just mind blowing last night, uh, to, you know, to watch that
game. And every time Gonzaga missed a layup or an easy chippy, I said to
myself, it, this is, this is going to happen.
Uh, there are about three nights a year guys where you play over your head and
no matter what you do, the ball goes in the basket and there's about three
nights a year where you play as bad as you possibly can play the rest of the
season, who you, is who your team really is.
But last night saying Mary, he's even Randy Bennett said, he said, he said,
we're not going to see Gonzaga play this poorly for the rest of the year.
But, but to your point, the fact that Gonzaga is no longer, uh, or at least
no more, no longer looking like it's invincible.
And the fact that Michigan state's been banged up and that Michigan state just
beat Michigan and Tennessee is struggled a little bit here losing the Kentucky
and LSU, um, it definitely opens the door, uh, because I think Duke's going
to be, uh, given a pass if Zion comes back, you know, for the, for the couple
of losses to Carolina, Carolina's playing great.
And then of course, Virginia's only two losses are, are to Duke.
So it's almost like, uh, round Robin here in the ACC.
And I think that they all may get rewarded, depending on how deep they
go in the ACC tournament.
Yeah.
So sticking with the ACC, uh, do you think Zion's going to come back?
Two-part question.
You think Zion's going to come back and do you think he should come back?
Are you, where do you kind of land on the one and done in the future of
college basketball in that respect?
Well, well, first of all, Kat, I was the first guy in November, December to
say that this kid was going to make a billion dollars playing basketball.
Uh, I've never seen anything like him.
The closest thing I can remember to Zion is when Shaq played at LSU and not
in terms of how good a player he is, but just the cartoon character nature of
this kid's physical dominance.
Uh, and the fact that like Shaq, he plays with a smile on his face.
Yep.
I mean, the one thing, the one thing about this kid you love is that he just
looks like he enjoys playing.
You know, when you, when you think, when you think of somebody like, uh, you
know, Kyrie Irving and the fact that, uh, you know, he never seems happy or
satisfied, uh, this kid's the total opposite.
Um, and I think, I think from coach K standpoint, over the last couple of
weeks, there is no way he could have risked playing him too early based on
what this kid's future is like.
I don't care how many, how much coach K wants to win the national championship.
We're talking to kid that literally is going to make a billion dollars playing
hoops.
So I like the idea that they were very conservative with him.
I think he's anxious to get back on the court.
I do think we'll see him play, uh, because I don't think they're going to put
them on the court unless they absolutely know he's close to a hundred percent.
The worst thing coach K could do is have, see this kid suffer another injury.
And by the way, I was also, I think one of the first people to say the night
of the, uh, the sneaker blowout that Nike's got to sign this kid now.
Yeah, make good on it.
This is a no, no brainer for Nike.
I don't know how you guys feel about it, but, um, I think Nike's going to sign
them to 75 to a hundred million dollar deal because a, they owe it to them.
But B, this kid's going to sell sneakers.
Yeah.
He has, but if, but if you're Zion on the, on the other hand, would you want
to sign with a company that had the shoe blowout on you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because think about it to me, like I, I were
all, I get, I wear what's ever free.
Okay.
I don't know about you.
Yeah.
The same exact.
Yeah.
I actually, I'm looking at my body right.
I didn't pay for a single thing that I'm wearing right now.
Exactly.
So what, what Nike, to me, like when I saw the blowout, my first reaction was,
I don't know about you.
I didn't say to myself when it happened, Oh my God, Nike makes a shitty shoe.
Cause, cause they've been selling, you know, billions of pairs of shoes for
the last 30 years.
I thought, Oh my God, this kid is such a force force of nature.
He just blew out a pair of Nikes on national TV.
Right.
And to me, to me, that's, that, that's going to be an incredible PR marketing
campaign for this guy.
Um, Hey, the only guy that could ever blow out a pair of Nikes.
Yeah.
And by the way, I guarantee you when he's in the NBA, they're
going to double stitch those bad boys.
Yeah.
No.
And he also, you're right.
He has all the leveraging now because Nike can't let him go anywhere else.
He has to sign with Nike and make a Zion shoe so that he can be like, look,
they had to make a shoe that could fit my power.
Exactly.
Air Zions.
I got the name already.
Mount Zion.
I don't know if that's brilliant or not.
I love it.
I think it air zoos, but I think air Zion fits.
You know, obviously just as well.
So I do think we'll see him play.
I do think he wants to play and listen, you know, you can't put them in.
You can't hermetically shield this guy until June 20th.
Yeah.
That's absurd.
True.
True.
No, it's not football and, you know, it's, it would be different if Duke were
going to the NIT, I would say, don't play him.
Yeah, sure.
But because there's a, because there's a lot of stake.
And by the way, this kid has benefited from being at Duke.
I get the whole idea of paying players and, or letting those kids go right to the
NBA at a high school and I'm in favor of that.
I forget the one and done, but the fact that he chose Duke because he had to go to
college, he picked a school that is, you know, I mean, let's face it, Nike, Duke,
Coach K, NBA, it all, you know, LeBron, Kobe, because of those guys, how those guys
feel about coach K coaching them on the Olympic team.
This was, uh, he made a great marketing decision initially just to go to Duke.
And I think it's going to pay off big the next four months.
I agree.
Now, if he doesn't play in the tournament, do you see Duke advancing past the
elite?
No, no, I don't.
I think they're, I think they got me.
I think this kid is, this kid's so dominant guys that if, if the world was
fair and it may still happen, but I would vote for him and I do have a
nascent vote, I would vote for him for a national player of the year.
That's a given.
I'd vote for him for freshmen of the year.
That's really a given.
And I would vote for him for the national defensive player of the year because the
guy blocked shots, he rebounds, he steals the ball.
He's breath, he's breathtaking.
When I, when I saw him in November, uh, in Indianapolis and he blocked the
shot and he threw a 75 foot bounce pass to a teammate for a layup.
I mean, it, he took my breath away.
That's why when they played army and Yale this year in December, I was still
tuning in to do not because RJ Barrett, I want to see Zion.
Yeah, they were must watch.
Uh, another guy's been must watch who, you know, maybe the casual fans don't
know about, but I, as a fan of a team that's tanking and trying to get a high
draft pick, I've been following along.
John Moran, can you tell people, cause you, you cover the draft as well.
Can you tell people what type of game he has and how he's going to
translate to the NBA?
I love him.
I love him.
I think he's the second best player in the draft.
And I, and I noticed that the draft, the mock draft guys are starting to catch on.
Um, he, this kid is, uh, unique because, um, he, I got to say at the
right way, he's Trey young with more athleticism.
I mean, way more, uh, you know, Trey's a nice player, having a good rookie year,
doing some really cool things, you know, knocking down 40 footers, but this kid
has the athleticism of a, uh, you know, the young John wall, a young Russell
Westbrook, um, just amazing athlete.
But the other thing he does, I think better than both of those guys is he's a,
he's an incredible passer.
Yeah.
Um, the kid, the kid really sees the court.
He can throw it with both hands.
Um, in the NBA, you can't put your hands on anybody.
I think he's electric.
I think he's one of a, in a poor draft.
I think he's one of a very, very few handful of guys, maybe three or four.
That can be an NBA all star.
And, uh, I think he has a chance to be, uh, really, I think, I think he's got
all star written all over him and the highlights, the dunks, the passes, uh,
especially when you put them around NBA players, it's just going to wow people.
In my opinion, I'd be shocked if he doesn't go to.
And the other thing is, and I was, I was, you know, again, I love the Zion.
I was, I was right there at the beginning of November on the Zionist number one
bandwagon because I don't know if you guys remember RJ Barrett was the
consensus number one pick in the draft, right?
All last summer and that changed.
And now I push RJ down to, you know, maybe three, four, but John Moran, I think
is, uh, he's another guy that's must watch TV.
And fortunately they're in the tournament because they beat Belmont.
Yes.
That would have been, that would have sucked if he wasn't in the tournament.
John Moran also has already perfected the art of like the Chris Paul, Paul
Pierce being able to run into guys and get a foul.
He does that very well.
He's like a 35 year old vet in the NBA where he can get contact wherever on the floor.
Yeah, I like that.
And I don't know if you see him in some of these interviews, but he's also got
a great personality, he's confident, cocky.
I wouldn't say overly cocky, but I, I think this, I think he's gonna, I, I mean,
as a Knicks fan, I was kind of hoping for the Zion, Porzenges connection, you
know, and that didn't happen.
Um, and now, now it's just a crap shoot as to what happens.
You know, it's the lottery.
So screwed up now.
The worst team in the league only has a 14% chance of getting the number one pick.
Yeah.
And after those two guys, no, no disrespect to RJ, but after those two guys, I
think there's a little bit of a dip.
Okay.
All right.
We'll get you back on for the draft.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
I gotta ask you something.
Um, uh, you gotta be thinking, I don't want to forget this.
So you fixed Ethan Hap's free throws.
Yes.
He's actually, so we just finished taping with him right now, uh, a minute ago.
And he is, he is coming on for a Friday show.
It's going to be you and Ethan Hap.
And we mentally changed his free throws.
So he's, he's not going to, PFT offered the pimp grip, which is, uh, under
hand to granny shot, but I think it's too late in the season to change that, but
we just had a mental breakdown of just saying the word wet every time that he
takes shot and it will met, cause I think it's a mental thing.
You know, you, you can tell me, I mean, you watch obviously all the college
basketball for him, it's a guy who's not, it's not like a as a bouquet from,
from, from Kansas, where the ball comes off in a weird angle and you just
know what's going to miss.
Ethan Hap is somewhat fundamentally sounding on it.
It just doesn't go in.
I think it is mental because I've been around that kid for four years at, you
know, summer camps and things like that.
And, um, I would never, like we had him at the underarmor all American
camp as a counselor.
Um, that was the summer before his junior year.
I think you might remember this cat when they were saying he up in Madison.
Hey, he's working on his three-point shooting.
I was, I was like, that, that's not happening.
And by the way, I'm a huge fan.
I'm a huge fan of that kid.
That kid is one of the best players in the big 10 in the last 25 years.
There's no doubt.
What he's accomplished is unbelievable.
Now, cause the reason I want to know if you fixed the free throw, if you have,
I'm calling my man Brent Musburger, who I work with.
Our friend, our friend as well.
Yeah.
So now if we, if Brent knows about the Ethan Hap fix, I think, I think all of a
sudden, you know, the money is going to swing.
Yes.
You know, you know what I'm saying?
It is a big difference.
Like the end of the game changes drastically.
If your best player can hit free throws.
Let's test it out on the big 10 tournament.
Let's see how it goes.
And then we will see if I did truly fix his free throws.
I promise you that if I, he makes, okay, I'm going to put a number on this.
Yep.
If he makes over 55%.
Ooh, I would say 65, 65.
I'm going to put myself to a higher standard.
65.
All right.
Okay.
So if he makes 65%, I am going to go on Twitter and give you the credit for the
fix.
Yes.
And, and I think, I think Ethan would go with that too.
Cause he's, I mean, he's an unbelievable kid.
He really is.
Yeah.
And, uh, I hope he, I hope he can fix it.
I actually think there's a way.
I mean, the, the NBA has 450 guys.
There's got to be somebody who could, he does so many things besides shoot.
Yup.
There's got to be a team that I think he can make.
I really do.
I am going to make a team.
He's good enough.
I think so too.
Yeah.
We were talking before you hopped on the line here and about what the, uh, the
optimal level of Wisconsin athletics is.
And in my opinion, for me, it's a perfect Wisconsin season for them to be just
good enough to break big cat's heart.
Do you think that Wisconsin is good enough to do some psychological damage to
my good friend, Dan?
Yes.
Yes.
I think, I think there, I think they can get to a sweet 16 and I think it, I
hate to say this cause it's just everything opposite of what I just said.
I just hope it doesn't come down to they're up, they're up for with a minute
to go and even half gets found.
No, no, it's fixed, it's fixed, it's fixed.
But it's fixed and we're fine.
Okay.
Actually, that would be the best way to break his heart is to have your theory on
how to fix some crash and burn.
No, yeah, work, work for like two, two or three games.
And then at the like crunch time moment, have it fall apart.
That's not going to happen.
Not going to happen.
Although, although think about how, think about how you'd celebrate.
Let's go, let's put the shoe on the other foot.
They're down one with 1.4 to go.
In, how about this?
In the sweet 16 and they're playing Texas tech.
Okay.
A three versus six or something like that.
And Ethan, Ethan, Ethan goes to the line and bangs two free throws.
And not only are you celebrating, Kat, but you're taking credit for the free
throw fix.
I wouldn't take credit.
No, we don't, no, we don't do that.
Yeah, it is.
We don't demand credit.
We demand gift cards to the Barstow store.
I'm getting excited.
Uh, all right.
So our last, my last question, um, I need a dark horse team from you, a team
that people aren't talking about, not, you know, we're not talking Virginia,
UNC, Kentucky, Duke, all those teams that we all know.
One team that you have seen all year long that you're like this team, if they
put it all together, they can make a deep, deep run in March.
Okay.
So we can't count Texas tech, right?
Because yeah, I think they're too good.
Yeah, too good.
Hi, because about a month ago, they had lost three in a row and I would have
said they'll, they'll get it straightened out.
So I'm going to, I'm going to discount Texas tech and, uh, Kansas state from
the league I cover because I know those teams well.
Okay.
So, uh, well, and a team, okay, there's two teams.
One, they've been good all year, but no one ever talks about them.
And they got to the elite eight last year and that's Florida state.
Ooh, because they got like 15 guys, I mean, and they're, and they got like
seven guys over seven feet.
It's amazing, you know, and, and, uh, last year they, they caused a lot of,
they, they, they caused a lot of trouble in the tournament.
You know, they got deep and they, they wound up losing.
How about this?
They lost to Michigan 58, 54 in a, in a game to go to the final four.
And so they returned all their key guys and all they did this year, um, in a
great league is go, how about this?
You ready for this?
25 and six, they went 25 and six and no one's talking about.
And their length, they, they are the longest team I've ever seen.
They just bothered the hell out of everyone.
Are you a length guy or a strength guy?
Um, I'm a length guy, man, because I'm five, seven.
So I, I, I would love to have been a length guy, you know, I would have loved
to, I would love to know what it would have been like to be six, nine with
like a seven, five wingspan.
So, but as a coach, I think I'd rather take the length.
I think it does more damage.
So that's, that's one team.
I'm not, I'm going to throw out Houston, but we know they're really good
because they're 29 and two.
So another team, a sneaky team I like, and they've had, they've had their
ups and downs in conference play is Maryland.
Okay.
And the reason I like them is because they have a terrific point guard and
they have a developing young big guy in, uh, Bruno Fernando, who's
going to end up in the lottery.
People don't know that yet.
Cause I think, I think our guys at ESPN have them 27th.
Um, he's going to end up in the lottery.
And the reason I like Maryland is because they've played in a great
league, um, they've had, they've had their ups and downs.
They still won 22 games and they're going to like breathe a sigh of relief
when they go into the NCAA tournament and play someone other than
Michigan, Michigan state or Purdue.
That's a great name too.
Yeah.
And I always liked the team that finishes third or fourth behind like
the Dukes and the Carolinas and the Kansases and the, and the, and the
Michigan's and Michigan state's cause those teams have played at a high
level all year.
And in some cases they're fighting to get into the tournament.
And once they're in, they go, good.
We don't have to see Michigan state the rest of the time.
Yeah.
No, that's a good point.
That's a very good point.
Uh, Pete, do you have any other questions?
Uh, no, I think that's it.
Unless there's a mid major that I need to be on the lookout for.
Oh yeah.
That's a good one.
I mean, you got, well, the, the Cinderella pick, if everybody's
frack, it's just definitely going to be Wofford.
Absolutely.
No barriers.
Yeah, they're ranked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that, that's what I mean.
They're not really a Cinderella cause there were only four losses this year.
Are, are you ready for this?
Let's see.
I think I got Mississippi state, Kansas, Oklahoma and Carolina.
That's, that's only four losses.
Nothing to be ashamed of there.
Yeah.
I really, so, you know, we, John Moran, people are going to have them in
their bracket, Wofford, obviously Buffalo's in regardless.
The bot is in regardless.
If you want a sneaky team, if they get in, if they get in, and that's a sneaky
mid major would be Utah state who just beat Nevada a couple of weeks ago.
That's where they had that fight in the locker room after the game.
And a sneaky good team, good coach, a lot of shooters and a good young big man.
Yeah.
I liked them.
They're, they are a good team.
And that's going to be a good Mountain West final.
If it's Nevada versus Utah state again.
Coach, thank you so much.
We'll have you back on for draft.
I'm excited for that.
I love it.
Hopefully we'll see you maybe at the final four if you're there.
Yeah.
If you, if I see you guys, make sure you come and say hi.
Hey, what a, what a pleasure to be talking to little hoops with you guys.
Yeah.
Long overdue.
Thanks so much, coach.
That's Fran for Sheila.
Thanks so much.
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Okay, let's get to some segments.
First up, we have King's Day Kings.
So James Dolan back in the news, still in the news.
Uh, a video was released that he kicked someone out of his own concert.
You know, this was two years ago.
So he might have been a change man.
Oh wait, no, he just got caught doing it at MSG last week.
Uh, yeah, he was at, it was one of his own concerts.
This was at the Pilgrimage Music Festival in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
You guys were probably all there.
Oh yeah.
Who, who wasn't?
So his band was performing, I believe they're called JD in the straight shots.
Yep.
Great name.
He plays the kazoo, I think.
Yeah.
The kazoo, the buffoon.
I don't, I forget what it is.
No, he is a buffoon playing the kazoo.
It's something hilarious, whatever he does.
And somebody in the crowd of literally a dozen people had a sign that said, quit
your day job, sell the Knicks.
And then James Dolan saw that and he said, don't you think that's a little negative?
I'm going to invite you to leave.
So he's positive vibes only.
Positive vibes.
Yeah, that's right.
Kanye does it.
It's cool when James Dolan does it.
It's losers stuff for an owner.
He loves getting owned in public.
Actually loves owning himself.
He loves.
Yeah.
He's a king of the self-owned.
I don't understand at what point is James Dolan like, hey, people are
bringing signs to my concerts.
Like maybe I should sell the team.
Yeah.
I was about to say how shit he would it be to be in a band with James Dolan, but
he probably pays you a shitload of money.
So it's probably sweet.
He pays you to be.
Yeah.
James Dolan, if you would like to pay PFT to be in your band and for me to just
hang out backstage, yeah, James, we'll do it in a second.
I will play, I will play guitar in your band and I'll do it for half of
whatever you're paying the guy now.
Yes.
I'll scab.
And he'll laugh at all your jokes.
Oh, I actually think he's a really funny guy.
Yeah, that's right.
You were saying that yesterday.
I was saying that.
All fair.
And he gets a bad rap for the moves that his management team makes on the Knicks.
Yeah.
Like Phil Jackson, he didn't even show up basically.
Oh, he was, he did even scout.
He was basically just, remember that picture of him on the, on the, on the
bus?
Yeah.
He looked like such an idiot.
He was sexting Genie bus the whole time.
And James Stone was like, Hey, I want to build a winner.
New York is a championship city.
Yeah.
Also Isaiah Thomas, who would have known that he would have been a
bad idea to get higher again.
And again, after you fired him and again.
Oh, all right.
We have next up, who cares?
It's Louisiana.
We debuted this segment last week when a coach of Louisiana or LSU basketball
team, Will Wade was caught up in a scandal because he was wiretapped and
basically implied that he was going to give or he gave a really good offer to,
to one of his recruits.
Uh, and he has, he was suspended for the last game of the season and he has
since released a statement on iPhone notes that said basically legally
binding, I want to come back and coach, not admitting that he was wrong in any
way, just saying, I've served my time.
I'm ready to come back.
Hey, remember everyone forgot about Sean Miller.
Do the same for me.
Well, he wasn't even saying that he wasn't guilty.
He was not denying that he was guilty.
Yeah.
So he was just like, they got me, but, um, listen, time's up.
Time.
What do you want me to do?
I sat out a game.
I went to spring break.
Right.
Had a good time.
Slap on the wrist.
Get me back on the court.
Yeah.
Let, let these kids play some ball.
Let's get it going.
So Will Wade.
Who cares?
It's Louisiana.
Yeah.
Again, let him back.
It's Louisiana.
It's, again, I would be more shocked if the LSU basketball coach wasn't cheating.
I saw blue chips.
Yeah.
I mean, they, they got a John Deere basketball.
What?
Oh yeah.
Just basketball.
Yeah.
And I actually don't think, you know what?
I'm going to say I'm going to disagree PFT because I feel like the whole LSU,
like we want everyone to be friends less because we want to go back to Baton Rouge.
Everything is good.
It's all about we've conducted our investigation on PMT and here is the
entire result of it.
It's a one pager.
Yep.
It says who cares?
It's Louisiana.
Yeah.
Oh, wait.
There's a second page.
It says alternate title.
It's Louisiana.
Who cares?
Okay.
So there we go.
You can go either way.
That's actually a, that is a hell of a chorus for a country song right there.
Who cares?
It's Louisiana.
It's Louisiana.
Who cares?
Who cares?
Right there.
That's it.
Um, do we have, I had a high idea.
I want to throw out there.
Hit me.
Um, sports talk Uber.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, you guys just saw your dog.
I saw your ears perk up like a dog's.
Yeah.
Like a garage door opening.
I'm doing the head to like when a dog sees something he's not sure about.
So you match with someone you wanted to date with in your Uber.
So it's like, if you're an MJ guy, you're like, I want to really go at it with
a LeBron guy.
There's a LeBron car and I think we can go a spin off too.
We can take it to personal podcast Ubers where your Uber drivers actually a
podcast host because everyone has a podcast now.
And you can just go sit in and just like midstream, just listen to his
podcast where he's just talking.
I like that.
So it's almost like a live concert.
But it's a podcast.
But you're joining in the middle of the show.
Correct.
And if you're just taking like a four block ride, you might get stuck with an ad.
Yeah.
But I just talked to you about me and these four.
Don't skip ahead.
Those ads.
No, you can't fast forward.
What do you think though?
I like that idea a lot because there's not enough debate.
There's not enough healthy face to face conversation in America these days.
Everything's behind the screen.
There's something cathartic about just screaming in a dude's face and have him
yelling back at you that you're wrong.
Why not?
It's basically therapy.
Yeah.
Why not go even further than just sports?
We could have certain cars, certain Uber and Lyft cars where the driver is a
Trump impersonator.
And if you really want to say, sir, resign, sir, you can just get in the back
of the car and just reply to all his verbal tweets.
I like that.
That would be great.
Can you imagine how much money Skip Bayless would make as an Uber driver?
If he was driving round LA, like you could.
Like surcharge the fuck out of that.
Just you're going to Uber, Uber, Uber pool, Uber black, Uber skip, Uber skip.
And he could try to name his price.
Yeah, he could say like $500 for a 15 minute ride.
Yeah, I would pay it.
And you could do it even way.
Like you don't have to debate them.
You can be like, Hey, Skip, I just want to hear you talk about how Aaron Rodgers
thinks, go ahead, take me to my destination.
Absolutely.
I think this has some, some like just have the Uber drivers have themes that
they can either debate or talk like no one wants in you.
And you also naturally will have a switch that you can be like, I don't
want any, any language being going back and forth.
I want complete silence.
Yeah.
I mean, that's you get the Uber silent car.
That should be standard on an Uber.
But, but now, but if you offer that standard, you need to have the upgrade
of we can debate.
Yeah, I like that.
Uh, you maybe let's bring some bikes into the equation.
So get Bill Walton on a bicycle.
Perfect.
Get on the flat earthers.
Like everything.
Yeah.
You basically it's a therapy podcast debate show inside your Uber and you get
to select it every time you get in a car.
A handsome horse-drawn cab ride with Stephen A Smith in there with you.
Beautiful.
Talking about the Knicks talking about how did we not put him in the
horny?
Oh, fuck.
That's why we started.
All right, all right, we're changing.
No, no, no, it's it's that's the name.
So he is the horny guy.
He's the Stephen A Smith horny, all it's horny team.
Okay.
He actually it's not even a bracket anymore.
We need to starting five from everyone.
The SAS SAS 16 we get no one has screwed up a bracket worse than what we
just did with that bracket in all kinds of ways.
We screwed up three different ways.
Uh, do we have any other segments before FAQs?
I think that's it.
No, just I had thoughts and prayers to us, but we covered it for Blake
Bortles.
I mean, thoughts and prayers to LeBron Lockwood.
No, we're not doing that.
I know.
What?
So sorry, you saying you're going to kill it?
No, I'm saying thoughts and prayers like he's never going to kill.
You should just be more curious about things.
Hey, PFT, look at this other alternate one that we had in that great.
Hank, you're actually going to love it.
You're going to love it.
The shirts we're going to make all proceeds will be donated to me and big
cat.
Yeah.
And also the tuna fish.
We got to buy you a lot of tuna fish.
All right, Hank, let's go with the FAQs.
What's your guys favorite store at the mall?
That's a good anti-ans.
Yeah, anti-ans for sure.
Uh, all right.
Uh, hot topic.
I was a big hot topic guy back in high school because they had all the bands
that I liked.
I like a good Foot Locker, maybe a Lids.
Lids is always, you know, just looking at a few hats.
I never buy anything, but just looking around.
You remember Spencers?
Yeah, I haven't been to a mall.
New York City doesn't have malls.
Other malls?
Yeah, there's a mall.
Where?
Uh, there's one up here on like 33rd.
Fuck.
Yeah, there's a mall.
I've, I don't remember being in a mall.
I think when we were in Indianapolis, our hotel was attached to a mall as
Indianapolis does, every structure has to be attached to a mall.
And I just walked through it a couple of times by myself, just enjoying mall life.
It is kind of sweet.
Uh, I'm trying to think what, what stores I used to go to.
There were CD stores.
It's like Sam Goody.
Yeah, we don't eat.
Don't do that.
It was a big one back in the day.
Stop, PFC, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
GNC, the funny thing about going into a GNC in a mall is the employees are always
shocked that you're in their store because nobody goes in.
I once went into a GNC and I was like, Hey, I wanted to, uh, lose weight
and gain muscle and the guy goes, uh, yeah, so you're going to want to take
these, uh, round black things and lift them about 15 times and put them down
and then do that set three times.
And I was like, so you're talking about weightlifting.
It's like, yeah, I was like, all right, fine.
Fuck.
And I just left.
He's like, just shame me out of whatever pill I was going to buy.
Yeah.
The best part about shopping as it at a GNC is when you're checking out and
they're like, Hey, do you want a GNC card for $300 and you save 5% on your
powder?
Absolutely.
On your way powder.
Yeah.
Uh, all right.
Next up Hank, uh, why is Liam called Bubba or are they different people?
Ooh, they are different people.
Bubba and Liam are two different people.
We hired Bubba, um, to give Liam a hand after Bubba's were hot one week when
it was like Bubba Wallace and Bubba Watson, both won something.
And so we're like, Bubba's are back.
So we need to hire a guy.
Also Bubba, uh, Liam got hit by a car.
Bubba did not.
So that's good.
Like you kind of just fix that up.
Yeah.
Liam died when he got hit by the car.
Liam died when he got hit by a car.
And then Bubba, we thought he died, but then he came back and he was just very
sick and how he Mandel yelled at him.
And Bubba took over his job from that point on.
The good news is both Liam and Bubba don't find any of this funny.
I liked it when people thought that.
We need to get Bubba a mic.
I don't know why we put a mic in front of them.
There's a mic on there.
Our new studio.
When we get our new studio, there will be a mic for Bubba so he can talk more.
Luba Hank can maybe talk less.
If you guys were in high school and really trying to go forward and
impress someone, what would be the best way to propose to a girl?
We're getting a proposal, dude.
Really?
We're 34.
I was more of a Sadie Hawkins guy.
No, but if you guys, you know, you gotta imagine, you know, I mean, it do
probably get probably get the guys from part of my take to shout to do it on
my Instagram.
No, that would be a terrible idea.
Probably get Bubba to do it to have you shout out the proposal or I feel like
proposals hit up Bubba.
I feel like writing on cars is big back in high school.
Just write on her car.
Yeah, I think you just dated on her window.
Yeah, see, like you're doing this.
You're tricking us.
Hank, I was like, I was trying to guess how old are these guys?
This whole FAQ is how old are these people don't write in like washable marker
on people's cars anymore on the windows.
My older brother and like his like that's I'd probably just Hank.
Hank doesn't know anything about romance.
I would do it.
The best way to swoon, make a woman's swoon is to just write your name and
capital letters across her windshield.
So she has to spend 20 minutes wiping up before school.
I would Morse code DAB, my promposal.
So I just do a series of dabs until she figured it out.
Yep.
Uh, what is your favorite city to travel to for content?
Hmm, I like New Orleans.
I like Austin.
Yonkstown, yeah, uh, I mean, we always get a good content in LA LA, uh, we do well
in Indianapolis when we have the combine.
I think any, I think it's not the city.
It's more like what's going on, but yeah, uh, somewhere in Ohio seems to be
somewhere in like that stretch between, uh, Pittsburgh and, and like Indian
apolis, somewhere in the rust belt.
Yeah.
You often ask athletes about a time they have been in the zone.
When is the time that you have been in the zone during an interview?
Great question.
That is a very good question.
I think we probably have different.
The person wrote in, right?
I get in the zone a lot during interviews when big cats asking
questions and I'm just sitting back and I'm like, yeah, I'm feeling this.
I'm nailing this.
No, there's definitely zone.
We get in the zone.
Great interview.
Yeah, we get in the zone in podcasts.
Like we'll walk out of the room and be like, that was fucking awesome.
We definitely get in the zone.
I don't have a specific time.
It's like next time here's, well dude, next time we're in the zone,
I will stop it and say I'm in the zone.
Can I give you an example?
Yeah.
So I think you got in the zone the first time we had Nick Wright on the show,
but it was just screaming at him.
Yeah.
You're just yelling at him.
Get him back.
Now the LeBron is on a tanking team.
Yeah.
He's on tanking team.
Let's get Nick right back on there.
I'll tell you, yeah, we, we actually were going to, but he went on vacation
because he knew that LeBron was not going to make the playoffs
and he hasn't come back and he's actually been back for a while.
It's kind of like when, when Bill O'Reilly went on that vacation
from Fox News when he thought he knew he was going to get fired.
Yes.
Yes.
Very relatable to right now.
We should get Nick right on the start of the NBA playoffs.
Yes.
And only talk about LeBron.
What Ninja Turtles did each of you identify with?
Rafael.
Michelangelo.
Rafael.
My dad once got me, what's the orange one?
That's Michelangelo.
Michelangelo like stuffed all and I was like, you fucking,
you idiot, you fucking idiot.
I'm a Rafael.
Michelangelo was by far the coolest one.
Was it Rafael was the nerd though?
No, he was not the nerd.
He had the sigh.
He had giant forks.
Rafael is cool, but rude.
That's in the lyrics.
He had giant forks and he was mean to servers.
Michelangelo was a space cadet who liked pizza.
Rafael was the bad boy who, who April had a crush on.
It was very clear.
You don't know your Ninja Turtles if you don't think Rafael.
Rafael was the one who would always get them in trouble
because he was such a badass.
No, Michelangelo would get them in trouble.
No, he's an idiot, he's a space cadet.
April wanted to fuck Michelangelo.
No, he just, he was the Spicoli.
Michelangelo just wanted the Turtles.
He just wanted to.
No, everyone back, Rafael was the one who was like,
yes he was.
No.
Michelangelo just wanted pizza.
He wanted pizza part.
Yeah.
Oh, that sucks.
What a shitty guy.
I'm not saying it doesn't suck.
He wanted to party.
What I'm saying is Rafael was the one,
he was like the guy who kind of the straw that stirred the drink.
No.
Big time.
That's the whole like, you can name all their,
how they acted and that's exactly what he was.
Michelangelo's party dude.
Yeah.
It's in the fucking song.
Yes, I know.
Rafael was cool but rude.
Does anybody remember what Donatello and Leonardo were
in the song?
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Turtles and a half shell.
Turtle power.
They're the world's most fearsome fighting team.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
They're heroes and a half shell and they're green.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
When the evil shredder attacks.
These turtle boys don't kind of know slack.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Bridge.
Donatello does machines.
Yes, Donatello does machines.
Michelangelo's Leonardo.
Is cool but rude.
No.
Yes, Rafael.
Rafael's cool but rude.
The song ends with Michelangelo.
Very clearly the best.
Fuck.
I gotta find this now.
This is going to drive me crazy.
Hank, remix that would take on me.
We actually have some new ones.
Shout out to Slow Lewis.
Michelangelo is a party, dude.
Yes, he's a space cadet.
He's a party, dude.
What is it?
Leonardo leads.
Donatello does machines.
Yes.
Rafael is cool but rude.
Rude.
Crude.
Michelangelo is a party, dude.
Happy we got that out of our way.
All right, last one since they took up so much time
with that one.
What is the difference between a bonus wing
and a chicken nugget?
Whoa.
Whoa.
A buffalo sauce?
A boneless wing comes with a sauce already on it.
Well, do they take the bone out of the wing?
It's a fun fact.
They're not even wings.
I know.
They're chicken nuggets.
Yeah, fuck.
Whoa.
All right, we'll see everyone Monday.
Whoa.
Love you guys.
And it rips my life away.
But it's a great escape.
Escape.
Escape.
Escape.
Oh, yeah.
All I could say is that my life is pretty plain.
You don't like my voice, do you?
But I hear you say it's just a name.
It's just a name.
I just want some more to say.
We know.
Oh, oh, oh.
I always be there when you were ready.
Yeah, you know I like to keep my cheeks out of bed.
So stay with me and I'll have it made.
Oh, and I'll have it made.
Oh, and I'll have it made.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
You know I'm really, really, really gonna have it made.
You know I'll have it made.