Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S01 EP17: Lorraine Kelly

Episode Date: June 23, 2020

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL' - S01 EP17: Lorraine KellyJoining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) during the lock down and beyond is the broadcaster and national treasure, Lorraine Kelly. Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks. xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @lockdownparent A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello, I'm Josh Riddickham. And I'm Robb. Welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hell. The show in which Rob and I discuss what it's like to be a parent during lockdown, which I would say can be a little tricky. So in an effort to make some kind of sense of the current situation. And to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills. Each episode will be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you the listener with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing. Hello and welcome to lockdown parents in hell with Rob Beckett.

Webbeckett. Josh Willakam. Josh Wilhelm. That was a great one Josh who was that? That was Evelyn Connor who is two. She has successfully been potty trained during lockdown with a help of an iPad with a help of an iPad and sitting on the potty for hours at a time. Brilliant. What a win that is. I'd killed a sit on a party with an iPad with an time. Brilliant. What the win that is? I'd kill to sit on a party with an iPad for hours of time

off that would be my dreams to know it. I had a whole routine about, you know, when you're a kid and your mum goes right, if you keep me, if you're at a party somewhere, if you keep being naughty, I'm going to take your own, put you in a bug in someone takes me home, bath me feeding it, puts me straight to bed, oh, that's all you want, isn't it? You shouldn't offer that as a service. That is sort of like a weird mum prostitute, isn't it, without any sexual. They'd probably do offer it as a service if you pay the right amount of money, Rob. Yeah, but they'd make you dress as a baby. I'm not, I'm not into into into into into into into into into into into think, I'm not into the weird kick, I'm not getting off in this sexually, I just want someone to put me to bed, right? How, do you know what, I'll tell you how my week's been.

Absolutely. Josh, you sound stressed before you start, like, so how bad has it been? I'm so on edge, it's unbelievable. Well, I don't, I don't know where to start, but... What's happened? It's been Father's Day. To give you some perspective from my daughter's side, I do think being too must be shit. You know, like it's great for like a week and then she'll obviously enter some kind of developmental stage where everything is bad. I've written a list Rob. I write a list over five minutes of things she was annoyed about. So this was this morning. Okay? So I want mummy. I want daddy. I don't want to

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No way. No way. No, no. Nothing, nothing is making her happy and it must be, I feel for. You know when you're hung over and you're always looking for the thing that's going to be the solution? And like it's going to be a cup of coffee, no it's going to be a pizza, no it's going to be a nap, and nothing works. She's going through that, but she's trying a a terrible two, though, because they are like that and then they go back to normal again. So Father's Day was an absolute shit storm. In the genuinely, I just thought what was?

You found out there. I'm fucking wish, mate. No, no. It's not her fault. It's like, it's like she's having as bad a time as I am, which is a little bit of a consolation for me if I'm honest with you. Yeah, because she's not enjoying being that angry, is she? No, she's not. She's not enjoying being, no one enjoys being that angry. So she's very frustrated with the world. Father's Day, we went for a walk and the stress, the adrenaline I had going through my legs. You know like when you're overworked and you're

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until the inevitable volcano. Well, my daughter's not internalizing it, I can tell you that. What happened on the walk that that was that bad? Just not enough puddles. Not enough puddles, too sunny, but then didn't want to wear a sunglasses, so pick a team, mate, pick a team. Yeah, it's these things there, it's just everything's a defeat. Yeah. So anyway, it was it was a very long day.

Yeah. My friend had a particularly bad weekend as well with his almost two-year-old son and he said the lowest point I'll read it out because he texted me. So he was having a terrible time but he said at his lowest moment was when his son was losing his mind in the street and a couple went past on a tandem both holding beers and laughing. Yeah! and laughing. Yeah. I... What a sight when you're thinking I wish I wasn't apparent at this point. A couple on a tandem with beers. Imagine people only in a tandem bike having a better life than you. What a low point. Oh, Josh.

Any brushes with the public? Were you salty with the public because you were so angry? I wasn't salty with the public? Were you salty with the public? Because you were so angry? I wasn't salty with the public, no. I didn't, we didn't go out afterwards. We had some friends come over in the garden and they've got a daughter who is absolutely perfectly, I mean, she's nine months, or she's 11 months, something like that. But she's very well behaved. I hate you when they turn up with him. But is it worse when their their their their their their their they they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. I. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't. Oh, I hate it when they turn up with him. But is it worse when they go, oh it's a nightmare, she's just, he's just non-stop. And they just sat there with like a one ball dribbling on it and licking it. He's like, it's not moved for 25 minutes. Oh, you're like, you know, I deserve some kind of karmic payback like this insane energy that she's got is she's going to turn it into being

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Well, I hope they've got a really easy child. I hope that that's their punishment for having a really easy child. Oh, Josh, I'm sorry, I'm so, I, I, well, well, well, I, well, well, I, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. Exactly, th. Exactly, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to really easy child. I hope that that's their punishment for having a really easy child. Oh Josh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What I would say is though, my two and a half year old, she's really lovely at the moment, but she did, how old, how old, how old yours? Just two or a bit? No, two and a half. A couple of months ago, she was like, a thapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapap. A couple a couple a couple a couple a couple a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, th. A couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of, a couple of a couple of months ago, she was like so angry, just pure rage about everything, and

then she calms down a bit now. But I think it's just like, you know, a developmental leap and then their communication skills get better so they can communicate it better. Well, two weeks ago I texted you about this because I was worried about it. She like, for three days she had a stutter and it was like really like just couldn't say words and then suddenly it went it's just like these the brain moving at a different speed to the body or whatever but I'm not gonna lie to you it's a tense old household at the moment Rob so how was your father's day Rob well Lou let me have a lie in and then theyrella to their kids around to a mom and dad's today to they. to they. they. to they. they. told I I I I I I I I I I they. they. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. Loo me me me me me me me th. Loo. th th to me me went went they to to told. told me me me me me me me me told me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me to me me me me me me me me me me to me me me me me me me to me me me to me to me to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the th th th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the. the to the the. the the. the. the kids round to a mom and dad's garden for a few hours. I just had a shower, nice chill.

And then she came back, saw him for about 20 minutes, had a bit of lunch and I went to Lou, might have a nap. Is that all right? She went on. I had a four hour nap Josh. Two till six hour nap. Four hour nap. too'then this morning, Lou woke up,

6.30 a.m. did an exercise bike. Have I married, Mike Wahlberg? What's going on? I'm worried. It's having an affair. She went, I'm just going to go downstairs and do a do a half an hour spin class. You're right to watch the kids. So I was like, who you're fucking to watch the kids. So I was like, who you're fucking? What's happened in here? Well, I think if you're having four hour naps, mate, she could smuggle him in and out of the house and you wouldn't- She could do half the street in that time, four hours. Yeah, so I had a lovely time and I'm sorry. What I did love is I saw your wife's Instagram post of a lovely, it said lovely lovely flafey's the see the back of your head and then your daughter with the Pram and I was like, I know what happens to that pram later.

Absolutely, absolutely livid. I'll tell you what, on a Friday we'll do all the correspondence and I'll talk you through. We had a day trip to the zoo we can talk about, which is a pretty good far. Oh, lovely. I look forward to hearing about that. I'm not going back to university to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber 1 for students. It saves you on Uber and Uber eats. I'm there for zero dollar delivery fee on cheeseburgers, up to 5% off smooth. to be clear, I'm there for savings, not whatever you think university is for. Get Uber 1 for students, a membership to save on Uber and Uber eats. With deals this good, everyone wants to be a student. Join for just $4.99 a month. Savings may vary, eligibility

and member terms apply. I've got a couple of sorty Josh Widducan that I can do on Friday. Oh no. Is it from my their their their their th. thia thia thi thia thu thu thu thu thu thu-a thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thus. thus. thus. thus. thi. thi. thus. thus. thus. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. to to to to to to to that I can do on Friday. Oh no. Is it from my daughter? No, it's not from that. It's from the Pram. Do you want a quick email? Right, should we get into the mail bag? It's the lockdown parody mail bag? But it's actually emails and there's no bag. This is from Bernadette Sumner. Hi, Josh and Rob.

Just a little insight into my lockdown life. I started lockdown off with three kids and three weeks ago, gave birth to our fourth child. Oh, thank God, I thought it would be really bleak on that. Started off with three, down to one and a half. My children are 11, seven, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, and five, and five, and five, and five, and five, and five, and five, and five, and five, and th and th, and th, and th. A. A. A. A. A. A. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, a. to, a th, a th, a th, a th, a th. th, a th. th. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A th. A th. A th. A tha. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. But, th.three down to one and a half. My children are 11, 7, 5 and 3 weeks. A few weeks ago, I could hear my 5-year-old daughter screaming at her iPad from another room. She likes to use the microphone on YouTube kids when searching for programs to watch. Her latest binge watch is something called peep and quack, and I could hear her shouting,

put peep and quack on. Extremely annoyed at our iPad. I then stormed into the living room and she said angrily, this iPad is stupid and it's not working. I looked here and under the search section it said no results found. And in the search engine it read, put people on crack on. So my advice to every parent out there is to make sure you've downloaded YouTube kids and not the real YouTube for your children. My Sadie would have had a

real eye-opener if she'd been searching for people on Crack on the unvetted YouTube. Kind of regards Bernadette O'Hare. Oh, what? People on crack would be the easiest watch for a child. Maybe it, but what if it became, like if that became part of the bedtime routine? Yeah, 10 minutes of people on crack. She's nearly off, we're just watching the bloke put the elastic band round his arm. He's nearly got, he's getting a vein up so she'll be off soon. What are we? People on spice, just slowly like, stood there like batching.

So, yeah, the lesson there is don't let your child on normal YouTube. Thank you for your emails. We've got so many. On Friday's episode, we will go through all the great correspondence. Rob, we will be answering a question about a man who has made his own Nando's experience for his children at home. We will have more emails, Rob, will we, about me being salty? Yeah, I've got, it's very 50-50 though. It's quite like the Brexit vote, your saltiness. Is it? There's a lot of people that believe in it, yeah.

And so, yeah, we've got a good one and a bad one for you, I'm afraid Josh. Also, great. We will have an email called Rob's Day Out. If you want to get in touch, this is how. Email us, hello at lockdown parenting.co. UK. Or we're on Twitter at lockdown parents. Our guest this week is, I'd say, a national treasure in waiting, if not already there. It's Lorraine Kelly, a wonderful broadcaster who's kept a sane during lockdown and also implied live on TV that I had a two meter long cock. Yeah, that was quite an interview.

Which would be actually unworkable. I think it'd be awful. I mean, you'd probably get a bit of work in sort of just like shock porn. Yeah, but I think it would cause more problems than it solved. I don't think it would solve any problem unless she was trying to have sex with an elephant. And that's also I'm into. No, don't believe the rumors. He's not into it. Don't believe those rumors on the internet. A hippo. Oh yes, please. Yeah, it's on YouTube. That's on YouTube. That's on YouTube. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, at the end, she implies that I've got a two meter long knob on daytime TV. So have

a little look at that and have a listen to this. She's an absolute legend. She's got a one grown-up daughter, Rosie's 26 and live her with her and her husband and Rosie's dad obviously in lockdown. Enjoy it. thrown. to thrown. thoes, thoes, thoes, thoome, tho, thoo, tho, thooo, thooo, thoo, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to tho, tho, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. So, I I I I I I I I I I I tho, I tho, I I tho, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toooo. toooo. today, today, today, thea, today, to. t Hi guys, how are you doing? Good. We're delighted to have you on, very excited. Oh, we need to thank you as well, Lorraine, because after doing your show, we had a spike in listeners, we like to call the Lorraine the post-Lorraine effect of our podcast. I like that very much. No, that was funn, isn't it? See, the trouble with me at the moment at the moment at the moment at the moment at the moment at the moment is the moment is the moment is the moment is the moment is the moment is, the moment is, the the the the the the the the at thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be to be, to be thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.a. thea. tooooooooomoome. tooome. toooome. toooooome. tooooooome. too. too. tootrouble with me at the moment is I keep forgetting that I'm actually on the tele. I know I have to be very careful as to what I see you I'll get into trouble. How many hours if you've done in lockdown it seems like

you're on all the time for like much longer as well. I've not had I've not missed one show I've been known since lockdown and I mean don't. I've not to get up early so th to to to to be known since to to be known since to to to be known to to to to be to the to be the to be to be the their to be known their their their to be known to be known their their their to be known their their th their to be known their to be known to be known to be known to be known to be known to be known to be known th th th th th th their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to be to be to be to. te. I tea. tea. I telea. tea' to be to can't. I've got to go up early so I have to behave that maybe that's just as well because I'd be you know I would be actually drinking far too much is that thing isn't it we're waiting for the pub stove and so that we stop drinking as much. Yeah. Yeah. judgment in the room. So Lorraine, what's your setup parenting wise? Well we've just got the one and she is a grown woman and far more sensible than I will ever be and she just celebrated her 26 birthday and she was over in Singapore and working in Singapore, being

there for the last sort of three and a half years and I've really missed her. And then she's back here, which is lovely and like of course we're driving her crazy but yeah kind of our job. Do you have you defaulted to like when she was a teenager again have you defaulted to those roles? Not really it's quite different I think she is kind of more like the parent. It's just like looking for us and telling us to tidy up it's really quite weird. It's mom you have to totidy up. You know, and she's like, she goes out and like does the shopping and we have to say what we want. It's really quite nice. I'm quite enjoying it. But we do drive her nuts, but that's fine.

But you know what? She was quite good. The teenage years weren't too bad. I mean, there was a lot of eye rolling and a few doors slammed, but it was actually okay. But the thing with us was, I was away for quite a lot because I worked down in London. And we were all together until she was about 12 and then went back to Scotland for a to go to secondary school in Scotland. And my husband really wanted to go home as well. So I did the commute.

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that she was a wee toddler and interested in every, I love the toddling stage when they're interested in everything and it takes you about half an hour just to walk down the street because puddles are really interesting. And the questions and the why, why, why, why, why? I just, I loved all that. The curiosity of kids, I think is the tele every day and everyone knowing you know a household name knowing that you know her mom was their own Kelly how how was that as a teenage was she proud of you was she had been embarrassed I would say to me and it was to the whole probably more embarrassed than anything else I mean of course she was really funny I remember when she was to me and it was before people to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to the to the the to to the the the to to to to to to be to to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their mom. their mom. their mom. I I their m. I their m. I their m. I their m. I was their m. I was their m. I was their m. selfies and she did say to me she says mom why do you scribble your name on bits of paper for people it's weird. She would kind of quite be mused. So she's never really known anything else and the thing is

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those horrific February convulsions because she'd had a fever and then she was fitting, she had a fit. And that's when I realized that I am beyond hopeless. Steve was brilliant. He just skipped her up, you know, we called the ambulance, we got her to the, you know, to the hospital and it was, it was all fine, but oh my God, you know what it's like when anything happens, and it doesn't matter whether they're two days old, are they in their 40s, you know, you just want it to be you, you know, that's all you want, you just say I can't deal with to deal with to deal with to deal with to deal with to deal with to deal with to deal with to deal with to deal with to deal with th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi, I can't thi, I can't thi, I thi, I that's thi, I thi, I thi, I that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all that's all... I I I I I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th.. I th. I th. I th i, I th i, I thi, I thi, I can't thi, I can't thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's all thi. thi. thi. that's all thi, that was terrifying. I can't imagine you though being like nervous about something. You're such a kind of filled out person. But I was nervous, love, I really was. I was nervous a lot.

I mean, I still, you know, and I think you always going to worry about your kids. My main thing was always, is she happy? Has she got pals, you know, at a later date. But I just think there's at that stage when they're we, it's all about have they got friends, you know, have they got, are they sociable? Are they all right? Are if your kid is the bully? What do you do then? Yeah, it's a kid's party when like a kid's been bitten, you'd rather your kid be bitten and be doing the biting. Oh, yeah. I mean at least when, you know, I was bullied a bit at school, but at least when I went home, and it stopped because we didn't have media, obviously we didn't even have a phone. So the real, real effort effort, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real effort, real effort, real effort, to to to to to to to to to b. to to to to b. to to to to to to to to to to to to be, their, to be, their, their, their, their, their, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, a phone so the real effort to bully you at home there

had a telegram for you Lorraine It wasn't that like that you know it was a kind of legend How old are you Lorraine are you two hundred I'm hundred and thirty five I'm I'm 60 I'm going to be 61 in November I don't know how oh my hell did you have a career break Lorraine when you had or did you go straight back into work? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was at the to to to to to to? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the to to the the to the the the the the the going to be 61 in November. I don't know how that happens. Did you have a career break, Lorraine, when you had her, or did you go straight back into work? How was the maternity leave? What was that like? Because that must have been tough at that point as well,

because stuff's moved on a little bit now, but to have a career break, you can't, as a woman, because what happened was I did get pregnant and then I got a phone call two weeks before I was due to come back to work. So I had her in the June and I was supposed to come back to work in the September so it wasn't much of a break. It was just a couple of months to a couple of weeks actually to be honest. It was just basically July and August and I got a call two weeks before saying actually actually don't bother coming back we've got someone else. Thanks very much. Wow! What?

That was really scary. I mean, I wasn't stacked in the sense that I just didn't have my contract renewed. That's what happened. Didn't have it renewed. They just, you know what it's like, they wanted a change and that's fine. That was a bit scary. So what I did was, you know, I put her under one arm and I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I th, I th, I th, th, th th th th that, that, th that, that, th that that, that that that, that that, that that, that, I'm available to just about everybody and as luck would have it, work at GMTV it was at the time, they got a sponsorship deal from a company and they said, we need a mom to present this. Only two days a week, nine o'clock to half nine, happy days. And they said, and they got in tou toub in toube. And I was like like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thiiiiiiiiiiii, and thoo, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho. tho. the, the, they got in touch me and said, would you be interested in that? And I was like, yeah.

So I did that for a couple of months, it was. And then I got my own show from that. Wow. Was the culture that once you had kids, you would, that was you sort of done then as a female presenter? Or was it, you encouraged to at your job, particularly the job that we're doing, particularly daytime, because so much of that is about family and about, you know, about children and having that empathy. I'm not saying that you can't have that empathy if you, you know, if you don't have kids, of course you can. But it just made it certainly for me, it made me less selfish, it gave me a

much, I don't know, a much more understanding. I had a greater understanding of someone who, you know, maybe their child was ill or their child was in a difficult position or whatever. It just makes you better person, I think, to be honest with you anyway. Were you working pregnant then, or right? Right, up until two before. I worked right. I had no idea it was. I had this thing in my mind that I was going to take a month off beforehand and then obviously just like a month or two after. And she came a couple of weeks early and I had it all planned. I was going to sit, basically sit eating chocolate and watching Dick Davis films. That was all I was going to do. For two weeks and of course I still feel cheated that I've still not had that two weeks. Still owning it. Yeah, even lockdown the busiest you've ever been. I know, it's nuts, isn't it? It's bonkers.

And I know that one day it will end and it's been fantastic and I've loved it, but you can't take anything for granted and... I don't think it will, Lorraine. I think, I genuinely think, 200 years time, you'll still be presenting GMTV or whatever it's of that. Me and a couple of coaches sitting talking about people. Wasn't you in Conquerage fashion this week? Let's see what they're wearing on the high street. I think you might be right. So did you sort of split the parenting up then, would you do the afternoons and evenings?

And Steve would do the mornings because of see... I couldn't really drop it off at school at 5 in the morning that would have been. Yeah, we've always done that. There's not like a rota or anything, but we've always kind of done that. And because he's a freelance cameraman, he had, you know, I mean, he obviously, when he became a dad, he had to turn down an awful lot more jobs. He wasn't away as much, and things like that. But yeah, it just kind of, it kind of worked out and he's, he put to it much better than I did, I think. You know, he is an absolutely natural when it comes to being a dad. I'm, I kind of had to learn it a little bit more, I think. It didn't come as natural to me, I don't think. Although, you know, obviously, it's the hardest job in the most rewarding job in the world. I know everybody says that but it's true. Do you think like most people obviously the thing that they have is they're like, oh my god the early mornings but you were getting up at 5N anyway so you were probably getting up

so you were probably getting up first anyway it wasn't. It wasn't. That was one of the joys working back early that you add up and when she was teeny tiny a couple of tiny, a tiny, a tiny, a tiny, a tiny, a tiny, a tiny, a tiny, a tiny, a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, so tiny, tiny, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, so the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, so their, so their, so their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, thi, thi, thi, their their their their thi, thi, tiny a couple of times I was able to take her into work and that was fit because you can just pick them up and carry them so that was okay and obviously I wouldn't leave her on her own who knows that you know one of the one of the one of the team would keep a wee watchful eye owner but and that I didn't do that you know I had the occasionally I could do that occasionally I could the the to be a the the I the the the the the the the the the I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to they. they. to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the they they they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. twee. they. they. I was. they. I was. the they. they. I was. the they were they were they were they in the kind of green room. She was sleeping. But like I say, that probably over the years only happened a handful of times. It was it was only if there was a you know an emergency or something and of course, the emergency or something and of course, the theyme when I needed them, my mom would come down. I mean my, when she was born, you know, it was 11 o'clock at the the the the th. th. It was. It was, the th. It was, th. It was, th. It was, the th. It was, th. It was, the the th. It was, th. It was, the the th. It was, th. It was, th. It was, th. It was only, there, it was, th. It was only, th. It was only only only only only only only only, it was only, it was only, it was only, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was only, it was only, it was only, it was only, it was only, it was only, it was only. It was only, it was only. It was only. It was only, it was only. It was only, it was only. It was, there. It was, there. It was, there. It was, there. It was, there. It was only. It was only, the the the the Obviously I'd say the country's got a kind of view of Lorraine Kelly, you're a very kind of clear character. Would you say as a mum, I can't imagine you disciplining a child? Can you, can you tell someone off Lorraine? Can you get angry? Oh yes, I can. I mean it takes a lot. I am like going to say, Hulk. I am like like like like like like like like like like like like like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I to to to to to to to to say. I to say. I to say. I to say. I to. I to. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, like, I'm like, I'm like, like, to me to me to say, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm me when I'm angry. We saw the Esther McVay clip, I've seen that. I don't do it very often, I really don't, but like, I mean, that's who, let my pals know.

Do you know what I mean? That's who, that's when I'm sitting having a few, a few down. Then that's who they know. And then you say, tell me about this one, what do you think? I go, well, wait till you hear this, you know. I have to keep her caged. But yeah, I find it, I found it really difficult, giving her into trouble. But thankfully, she hasn't really given us much, you know, much trouble. The thing I am though, the thing that I would we would go out for something to eat with her or something but and I would like to think that she tells me everything of course she doesn't why would she I'm a mom you don't want to hear everything yeah and that's why you've got your pals to tell all these things so and I don't think it's a good thing. So if she says mom I need to tell you and you go I don't want to know actually I should tell your mates. I'm going for a few drinks with my friends

to talk about Estimate Vey see you later. I know. I bet Rosie she's a wonderful young woman very, you know a wonderful young woman very thi thi you to to to to to to to to to to to to to thu thu to thu to thu to thu thu to to thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu tho to tho tho to to to to told to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the tell the tell you. I tell you tell you the tell you the tell you the tell you the the the tell you to to to to to to to to the only thing you would have done differently with parenting, like, you know, big or small really, but anything when you think, oh, I shouldn't have done that, I wish I did that differently or they'll be that probably, I think it shouldn't have been all on Steve to do the kind of like the tough stuff, you know, like the homework, and eat your brocly and brush your teeth. I should probably have been a little bit better at that and not wanted to be loved. Do you know what I mean? But all the time, you know, because that's very, and that's really human, you know, to want that, but I think probably we could have shared it a little bit more. Definitely, definitely. But no, generally I hope that she has a happy kid anyway and I hope that happy because and not despite.

Yeah. What were you like as a child, Lorraine, in the sense of, because I imagine that you, I can't imagine you rebelling. I can imagine you being similarly easy to parent. You want to talk to my mom. Oh, I was, I was horrid because up until I was six years old, I was the spoiled brat and the princess. And then my brother th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th I th I th I th I th I th th I th th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I tho. I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I tho. I thoo. I thooooooooo. I th. I th. I th. I thooooooo. I th. I th. I th. and the princess and then my brother came along and he was like a child from central casting, big blue eyes blonde hair and I loathed him. I mean you want to see we've got pictures of me and him and I am my face I look like the devil I'm horrible and I need to nip him under his wee fat arms I was gaspiled you know you used to get free orange or you probably don't but and when I was growing up you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th I was th I was the th. I was th. I was the the th. I was th. I was the their eyes. I was the blue is the blue is. I was. I was the blue is blue is blue is blue is. I was the blue is the blue is the blue is the blue is the blue. I was the eye I is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was You know you used to get free orange juice and when I was growing up you used to get free orange juice and I used to drink his. I mean I got on so well with him now he's a brilliant guy he's really really funny but he does now bring it up you know now and again he says the trauma of his childhood.

He's bullied by Lorraine Kelly because no one will believe him. Oh we love Lorraine. You weren't there, man. You weren't there. She would never nip you under the iron where nobody could see the bruising. Did you have any parenting fails that Rosie brings up now and again? Because once my mom tried to cut my hair over bowl and snipped my ear. And it was, and a reminder about that every, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, th, th, th, th, th, th, th I know my mom tried to do that with me you want to see in the stage but no I try to and Rosie wanted her hair colored and we bought the packet thing and you know the way in the advert and

it all looks all gorgeous lovely that was probably when she was a bit 13 and oh my god you should just say it look actually to be a tartan I mean I wasn't I to to be to be to be to to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to to the to the the the the the the the the the the to the to the the to to to the to to be the the the the to to to to the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th the the the the the. the. the. theeee. theeeeee. thee. the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. wasn't expecting to be what the time. You know, in a way, I actually would be something quite remarkable. Do you still worry about her when she's out and about, even though she's, you know, a grown woman, she's 26? Because the thought, you know, mine are only four and two, but the thought of them like going somewhere on their own without me. Does that get easier obviously?

It does when when when when when when Like when she was in Edinburgh studying or when she was in Singapore, I didn't worry about her because I didn't know it's when they live with you, it's when they're here. And obviously because of lockdown she's not been allowed to go out. So it's been wonderful. Occasionally when she'd come back to Dundee when she was in Edinburgh and I would have to wait until she was back in the house. And you would just say, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, teens, she's like, no, you've been sitting up waiting to see it. You know, you can't help that, but it's weird how when they're not under your roof that you don't think about it as much. You really don't. It's really strange. But when they're at home with you, you do. Have you found you are home and locked in and you can't go anywhere. It's been really really good and she's been cooking because I can't cook I'm

hopeless. I mean when she was little she would say mom I've got pals coming around and I mean it was only slamming in a few fish fingers but she would say gonna let dad do it. I think you've shown your skills by the word slamming in the cooking show in the history of cooking. Slamming in the fish, let your dad do it. That's a sentence that will never leave me. She's been cooking for us, which is fabulous. Although she uses up every single pot and pan and leaves a mess, but it doesn't matter, that's my job, I don't mind. But yeah, it has been really, it's actually been really good just sort of a chat and everything. I thi first I think the lockdown thing I'm really

looking forward to doing just really wee things like going to the pub and having a drink or having a coffee it's not great big giant things and I don't think I'll be travelling for a wee while I think it's just little things like being able to to see people that actually got I really miss cuddles and I'd no idea there that the the the the the the the the the the th you th also th also th also th I th I'm th I'm thin I'm thin I'm thin I'm thin I'm thin I'd thin I'd to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. I'd to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to go I to to to to go I to to to th. th. th. th. thin I'm thin I'm thin I'm thin I'm thin I'm thin thin' thin' thin' thin thin thin thin the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi the thi thi thi th runs away from me now easily. I was in the petrol station the other day paying, you know, doing all social distancing and I dropped my card and then the person picked up and gave it to me and I toucest their finger. And we'd be like, oh, I was like, it was so into it because I was so into it. It was so into it because I don't touch anywhere. You have to do an awkward wave, didn't you, in the garden? We're not quite sure what to do with you.

I've been doing Vulcan salutes like Mr Spock. I've been doing games. Anyway, thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thanks so much. and Josh with little ones that you can give us to help us through. Just enjoy every single second because see you turn round and honestly they're in their 20s and just just enjoy them. I think that's the main thing and just let them play and let them have pals and don't don't get too worried about things like because they'll know what they will learn to go to the toilet it'll happen. Yeah. Yeah. Do not they they they they they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will learn they will learn they will learn they will learn they will learn they will learn they will learn they will learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn to learn to learn they will learn learn learn learn to learn learn learn learn to learn learn learn to learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn to learn learn learn learn their their their their they will learn learn learn learn learn learn learn learn they will learn they will learn they will learn they will learn they will learn they will learn they will learn they will they will they will they will they will they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll to to learn to learn to learn to learn to learn to learn to learn to learn to learn to learn to learn to learn to learn to learn know, in the next row neighbor or the group or anything like that.

Just, you know, they'll go at their own place and they'll find their own way and it's fine and they will learn to be right and it's all grand. Thanks, you're made it feel better. Thank you guys. It's so nice to talk say it Rob. Yeah. National Treasure. Easy. If it was ever in doubt cemented over lockdown. Yes, totally. And do you know what I love about Lorraine Kelly? Is, as time goes by and she becomes more and more of a kind of fixture,

she's giving less and less of a shit about what she says? Yes. In about five to ten years,raine Kelly's gonna be like a shock jock. Yeah, like that do another peers she'll go full circle. She's just brilliant. I love her. I love Lorraine Kelly to be my mom. She is the OG of like I TV daytime yeah because you have people come and go like Holly and Phil on this morning. Peers in Susanna a good morning Britain it's could go more knowing Britain. Lorraine's show is called Lorraine. Not even Kelly, Lorraine.

Especially having a show on every day on the biggest channel in the UK called Rob. They have a Beckett, this one. Yeah, that's right. Yours would be called Beckett. She has put Kish, Keeche L'Arain. She is is the most is the most is the most the most the most the most the most the most their. She has put Kiche second in the list on Google. Lorraine Kelly, then Kish Lorraine. She is the most dominant Lorraine in the history of TV. And I'm not going to lie to you. I can't, when she said she was 60, her and Dr. Hillary look exactly, you see her and Dr. Hillary talking now. Those two people haven't aged. I don't know what they've done. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. their. T. T. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. the the th. th. the the most the most th. th. the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. I tho. I thoes thoes. thoes. thooooooooooooes. to. today. tho. thoo. thooo. thoo. thoo. tho. tho. the most the th. It's unbelievable. Yeah, also they've been getting up at fucking 5 a.m. for the last 20 years. When I get up at that time I look 13 years older, what's wrong with them? I know I look like I'm about to die at any moment if

I get up at 5 in the morning. Once, what once to go on a day you get up at a five days a today and like it takes three days of the holiday holidayto recover they do five days a week up at five times to Lorraine and if you want to get in touch for the show this is how email us hello at lockdown parenting dot co dot UK or we're on Twitter at lockdown parents and thanks for all your reviews and all your listeners we're up to second in the charts still beyond thrue tough to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the to to the to the to to to the the to the to to the to the the the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too' tou. tou. tou. tou. toughe. toughe. toughe. tou. tough. tou. tou. tou. tou. toe. to reviews and all your listeners we're up to second in the charts still beyond Thoreau. Tough tough to break through in it the BBC Stranglehold but yeah it's number two in the charts thank you very much. Keep how many reviews what we know you love reviews.

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Oh, you're plugging away. No disrespect to the people with Adlerain, they're great. But she ain't Kevin Art, is she? She's not in Gramangy. Oh, it's easy to get up up up up up up up up up up the the the the to get to get the to get to get the to get to get the to get to get the to get to get the to get to the top of the charts when the geese from Germangi turns up for a two-hour chinwag and sticks it on YouTube for extra coin. He's absolutely loads of the geyser, anyway. Do you know how many episodes Joe Rogan's done? How many? 1,491. Are you fucking kidding me?

Get a life, Joe Rog'll see you next week. Cheers guys.