Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S01 EP27: Dara Ó Briain

Episode Date: July 28, 2020

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL' - S01 EP27: Dara Ó BriainJoining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) during the lock down and... beyond is the brilliant comedian and presenter, Dara Ó Briain.Find out more about the great range of school uniform available from F&F at Tesco here: https://bit.ly/BackToSchoolPC Available in selected larger stores. Subject to availability. Excludes Next.Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks. xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.ukTWITTER: @lockdownparent INSTAGRAM: @lockdown_parenting(And the NikNak account is @penrosehouse #niknaksafety)A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:33 Hello, I'm Josh Riddickham. And I'm Robb. Welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hell. The show in which Rob and I discuss what it's like to be a parent during lockdown, which I would say can be a little tricky. So in an effort to make some kind of sense of the current situation. And to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills. Each episode will be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you the listener with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Hello and welcome to lockdown parenting hell with... Can you say the following things? Hello and welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hale with Can You Say The Following Things? Following things. Rob Beckett? Josh Widdickham. There we go. That is a special one that I recorded earlier because we are at my house. Yeah, that's your daughter.
Starting point is 00:01:41 That's my daughter. And this is the first time we've ever done this in a room together. It feels weird looking at each other. It is odd. You don't know where to look, do you? Yeah. You know what? I haven't been catfished. You are, as I imagine. Turned up, and it's James Acast all the time. Yeah. But yeah, so it's been weird actually because I'm normally just on my own. now we're looking each other. How do you feel? I've just realized that because we're at the opposite ends of a table normally on a panel show yeah you're not facing people this is like Frost Nixon yeah it's quite combative yeah how are you? Yeah good I mean you've got to ask oh yeah Did you see the coin that your daughter swallowed? No, so the penny is still in the stomach and I know this because I've got a metal detector.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Oh does it work? Well yeah so we I found an area of the garden that was no like beeping. And then I got the eldest to lie down, no noise, youngest to lie down. It's been like a week now. And it should go between 48 hours in five days. It should have th. down. It's been like a week now and it should go between 48 hours in five days it should have gone through. So Lou's ringing the GP today to try and get an x-ray to make sure it's not lodged. Blamey. Can you do the beep and then draw across where it is and then you go back the next day and see if it's moved. It looks like we could do that, but he's still in her. But what... What? How much is it? Loo's been going through the poo by hand, obviously with gloves. But I said, stop doing that. Leave the poo in the potty. Then, well, metal detector.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Oh, of course. Going down that route first, she was in with a glove and a bag, straight, and no leave that come out, or we may have to take it for a little extra or something to see where it is, but yeah, fingers crossed. Imagine if it came out, but then she was still beeping. Oh God, yeah. There might be more in there than you think. Like little Terminator baby. She's actually made of metal. They're actually made. thing. Thank you for coming to East London. Yes, you know what, East London, I forget
Starting point is 00:03:45 how East London, East London is. The price difference in shops for the same thing is mental. When I got here, I was, I got here early and I was starving. Like, you know, when you're so hungry, you need something, you're having like a try and a bag of crisp, just something, just something to keep me going, right? So I tried to get a diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet diet, I to to to to to to to to to to to keep kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind, to to to to to to to to to to the the the the to to to to the to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I the the the the the the the the the their, I, I, I, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tip tip tip tip tip tip tip tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. the the the tip. the the tip the the the tip.? So I tried to get a Diet Coke in a packet of walkers. Absolutely no, John. Come on, man. Not in. Who do you think you are? I've felt like Nicholas Lindhurst on the Goodnight, sweetheart. That was filmed in the, I can show you the street that was filmed. Really? Okay, well that's good to it? Yeah, so I went into a delicatessen, right?
Starting point is 00:04:25 Anyway, so I went in there and I couldn't find a dark coat, doesn't exist in there. The biggest selling drink of all time doesn't exist. So I got lemony, lemonade from the karma company. I don't know what it is. That sounds like I've made it up. That does sound like you're trying to trying to kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind of riff on it. And you've done quite a bad job. Lemon Lemon Carmel, I think that's actually the name. Yeah. Couldn't get crisps.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I could get potato chip slabs for £2.25. Guess what flavor? Ready salted? Pateate. Pate. Pate-Aardine's flavor for $2.25. In the end, I found something I wanted and I picked it up went to pay and you can't buy that yet. What? What would you mean? It's down there? Do you know what I got it out of?
Starting point is 00:05:10 The food bank box. It was the food donation box. It was the food donation box. That was the only thing there that I wanted. It's a packet of what's it? But it was the box for the food bank, I mean it's a lovely gesture but that's the only thing I wanted. You have said, look, I'll pay for a bag of slabs to go in the food bank box and I'll take the... You can't be on the tele, and take stuff out of a food bank box. That's just the rule of life. But that's the only thing in there that was aimed that that that that that that that that tha that that tha that was that that the that the that the the the that was the that was the the the the the the the the only that was that was that was that was that was that was the only that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that that that that that that that that that that that that that the that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thea thea thea thea that that that that that was aimed slabs? I just had a lemony lemonade from the Carmer Company. You should have a patio slabs? It's both would have fete in my mouth. But you've got a lovely house though. I don't want to criticize though. I would say your house, it's beautiful your house. It's very cool, loads of cool interesting stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:06:01 But I would say one of the least child-friendly houses. It is I't it? It's a if I came around if you were looking to adopt or foster I would go you could have to rethink this it's not suitable for a child how is how is your child not slashed into stuff? Well so I did I did say to Rose last night I said Rob's going to a hundred percent this will be the discussion on the podcast is how dangerous our house is. So when we had our daughter we switched from a glass table with sharp corners for our coffee table to a glass table with rounded corners. And that... We tried to like do some allowance to the fact we're having daughter. But to be honest, there's a lot of knickknacks. Yeah, do you know what though? This house is amazing, but if you don't stop the knickknack buying now, you're going
Starting point is 00:06:51 to have the mad cat house in about 40 years. Yeah. Whether there's no...you love a knickknack. But you've got to stop to buy knickknacks. Nice and spider. But no, it's beautiful, there's really cool stuff, and it's the stuff we used to have in our flat in our house, but that we had to get rid of it and then not buy new stuff
Starting point is 00:07:15 because you've got a brass palm tree with like spiky leaves from the base to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. top. Do you know this is bad but my wife has started a an Instagram feed of her knickknacks. Oh really? That sounded the right sound. I think it's called Only Fans. That's what the kids call it. So she started I'll give it Penrose House is the Instagram, all the different things she's got. So it would be an awful timeto say, I'm afraid we're going to have to replace everything. And suddenly she's like... Yeah, right, you're yours, everything's got a bit of character to it. There's a lot of character going right. There's a lot of character things to take an eye out.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, yeah. If your nicknacks were a typac-like the type the type thirty person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're got something up their sleeve, but if you look at it long enough, you'll find. But I love it, I don't feel like, I don't be disparaging, but there's a lot of corners. There's not intricate stuff. There's a lot of corners. But, but if you, you know, your daughter's three, if she doesn't broke it now, she's you know, she's able to play yet? No. As I walked in, I didn't even have my daughters. I had a panicked anxiety attack of imagining them being in there.
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Starting point is 00:09:51 Because if you can get away from the cot and she's sleeping well, there's no need because she's only going to get out in the night, I don't want to want her to be to door. And also you've got lovely, beautiful, old, sort of traditional doors. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It's not a tight handle on there. A breeze would open that? Because you've got character here. Do you think? I really don't build a compound in my house. Mine's like a shutter island. What's your most dangerous item that you've got? Because what happens with us is we bought an old house that needed loads of it And the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thight, it, it, it, it's not, it's not, thight, thight, thight, there's, there's, there's, there's, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, th. There, th. There, th. There, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It's not, th. It's not, thi's not, thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not thi's not,? Well, because what happens with us is we bought an old house that needed loads doing to it And we were getting the refurbishment done as the kids were at peak break stuff age
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Starting point is 00:11:31 a coffee table to our life? That's what children do. And it's something we're quite passionate about. This conversation has gone for five minutes, and we've both got more to say, about a coffee table that we don't even care about. The thought that when my daughter goes to university, I think, the first thing I'm going to do is get that coffee table out there. You'll put a big pot of squash on in, it will smash. I bet you'd be at the end of a sitcom episode.
Starting point is 00:11:58 So what do you think the Instagram account should be changed to? Just pictures of very safe furniture. Well no no I mean maybe our listeners could go on to Rose's Instagram account and then suggest ways to make that nic-knack safe. Oh that would be good yeah. Safety. Yeah. Safety. Hasn't hashtag nicenac safety. Why don't you please send us photos of your knick-knacks or coffee tables you've had to hide away. You have to decommissioned knickknacks. Decommissioned knicknacks. But children, you know, that's all that's the other thing we've got to set up is Instagram
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Starting point is 00:13:19 The doomed to the podcast, trying to stop you going to Spain on holiday. Yeah, I think he heard all them sort of absolutely like zingers we did about it when he was in intensive care. So, if you want to get in touch with us, you can follow us on Instagram, handle to follow, and also you can get in toumest with emails with your knickknacks this way. Email us, hello at lockdownparentin.co.uk. Or we're on Twitter at lockdown parents. Now, Dara O'Brien. He's like how sort of, he sort of groomed us in a way, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:14:01 He did, Rob, but we're not allowed to talk about that legally. We've signed those non-disclosure agreements. He took us under his wing on what the week? He did. He taught us about how to, you know, make jokes out of big or small numbers. Always for me, the number was never big enough or small enough to be a funny number. There's nothing funny funny about 50. Now he needs to be no point 0 0 0 0 0 00.0.0.0. or 10 trillion. I make a trillion up. That wasn't a number. It's a funny number. Did you do the one where Andy Murray was there? No I didn't actually. But I did a league of their own with him the other day. Oh yeah. And it sounds out Andy Murray has got a massive knob. What? I saw it on an X-ray he he's has got he's has got he's has got that he's has got that he's got that he's got that he's got that he's got that he's got that he's got that he's got that he's got that he's got that he's got that's got that's got that's got that's got. that's got that's got. that's got a that's got a that's got a that's got. that's got. that. that. that. that's got. that's got. that. that's got a that. that. that. that's got a that's got a that's got a that's got a that's got a that's got a that's got a that's got a that's got a that's was. that's. that's got. that's. that's. that's got. that's got. that's got a that's got a that's got a that's got a that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's that's that's knot. You saw it on an extra, has he swallowed a coin? Yeah. But no, they put an extra up. I didn't realize it.
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Starting point is 00:18:50 I absolutely started doing that. They, so you know, another thing I'm not the sword out one at all. But it just actually really, it'm not the sawed-out one at all. Are you a good cop or a bad cop as a dad's doll? Or what's your kind of role? Shouting? Can I hang shouting? Is that one of the things there? Turns out much more of a shoubter than I thought I'd be? Much more of a blindly furious person than I'd assumed I'd be. No no, no, no, it's it's it's it's it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise, it's a surprise, it's a surprise, it's a surprise. It's a much, it's a surprise, it's a much much much, it's a much much much, it's a much, it's a much, it. It's a much, it. It's a much. It's a much. It's a much. It's a much. It's a th. It's a, it. It's, it. It's a, it. It's a, it. It's a, it's a, it's a th. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a surprise, it's a surprise, it's a surprise, it's a surprise, it's a surprise, it's a surprise, it's a surprise, it's a surprise. It's a surprise. It's a surprise Yeah, no, no, it's it's a surprise to me as well and to them a lot of the time, just how, what I, I have told you to hold the fork correctly. The kind of, you know, just, yeah, not great. Have you had a moment in particular, Darrell? No, no, no, just, you know, they just don't, you know, they don't listen. It is, it's just, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, theturns out, no, I'm very impatient about things not being done the way they should be done. No, it's awful.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Honestly, it's a thing that I should probably have a talk about because it's like, oh, for God, take. They will, I've all felt so kids, who might utterly adore and the most, they're wonderful, but it is like it's a type of love you have for your kids is the love, both, both, both, both, both, both, thol, thiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it's like, thi, thi, thi, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, th, th, th, th, th, th..... th... th... I I I I I I I, th... I, th.. I, th. I, th. It, th. It, th. It, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it's a thi, it's a thi, it's a thi. thi. thi, it's, it's a th of love you have for your kids is the love both the love at the start of the relationship of a you know a romantic relationship in other words I cannot wait to see you everything about you is beautiful you light up my life you're amazing you're fabulous and the end of a relationship you know exactly the stuff that makes me more angry than any of the human being and it's two of those together.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Oh, that's a perfect description. Dara, have you had a moment in particular where you sort of lost it with the kids? It was Shappy Corsandi had a moment where she flipped out over some milk tray and it was called the milk tray moment within the family? Have you ever had a moment thrown theirifier when they bring the back up and I get angry again. No, I told the, yeah. The, just the stubbornness of it, the cheer, there has been, yeah, there's been certain topics on which I guess very kind of, yeah, that I've said this to a million times, could you not do that this way? You know, it's been like, you know, get your feet off the table, we are eating our table, you know, that kind of stuff. Like how often do we have to say that to you?
Starting point is 00:21:13 That was the thing. When I was a kid, it was like elbows off the standards dropped in the 20 years since I was a kid? This was elbow, it's a no feet. I had a conversation at tea time today, my daughter's arm, whose arm was just draped into the middle of the table. They, and I would take your arm off the table. She said, why? And it was, just move like slightly further down. to is. As I'm trying to give out to her, I have a routine about how stupid the whole elbows
Starting point is 00:21:49 on the table was. Why was that a thing? To be like whatever the year and I had a whole routine dissing the elbows on the table thing and here I am, gone totally. So do you think you're like your parenting are you parenting in the way way way way way way way way the way the way the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the. the. I the. I the. I the. I'm is the. I'm the. I to to to to to to the. I thi. I parent? Are you parenting in the way your parents parented? That's a sentence I could have said better, sure. No. Yeah, I mean by all means that doesn't do it again if you want to take a second question. You should hear out your dad said that first time rather than you're running there, running for the family. Do I, yes and no, I mean they are the model for certain things. I'm probably, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm that. I'm that. that. that. that, yes, yes, yes, yes, I mean, that, that, I'm that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. I th. I th. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, th. that, that, that, I mean, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that. that. that. that. I mean, that. that, I thatthey are the model for certain things, but they, but I'm probably that irritating, no, why don't we think about this kind of thing? No, just tell me the answer. In that I do, but I'm not sure actually, because I, I don't know if I've forgotten so
Starting point is 00:22:32 much of my childhood. I've had this. It was a lovely time, but it wasn't a thing thing I remember like the TV and the computer games more than I remember the actual experience of being a child if that makes sense. It makes perfect sense. I think there's a lot spoken with it. Whereas I remember everything from 16 on vividly because it was like at 16 I got to choose everything from here and in, so therefore 16 was the thi the, that was, you th, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thethat was the containment of me. So no, I don't remember specifically how it was in that regard. I don't, my father was a thing where he had a no raised voice thing, which I've completely fucking adored.
Starting point is 00:23:12 The, which was, he had a thing, because my father was a trade union negotiator, and he said, don't make me use my trade union voice, was a phrase that he said. Oh, tr tr the tr the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, thue thue thue, thue, thue, thue, thue, thue, thue, thue, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, I tho, I tho, I tho, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I'm tho, I'm train.. today. train. today. today, today, today, today, today, today, I'm, I was, I was, he said. And we, oh trade union face or trade union voice, one of the two. Either way, we never got to see this mythical trade union face that he had, this work face as stern, stern as possible face that you could have. But a good thing about that face is it stops at quarter past five on a Friday. Yeah, not to do anything. And so is everything else. When it stops, everything stops. That's the thing. That's how it worked.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I asked him years later he said, no, sure, there's no. There was no. There was no. There was no. He just came up with this bluff, you know, you do not want you. The whole way for the time. That there is a, there's another thing and that happened to be what he said, you know, don't make me use my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work. their work. the work my work my work. their work. their work. their work. their work. their work. their work. their work. their work. their work. the work. the work. the work. the work. the work. the work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work my work. their work. their work. their work. their work. their work., my serious face. Don't make me use my jungler's Christmas week. That would be our burden. There's two endos in a free stag news. Listen to me raw. Look, you're seeing my stargazing face. You don't want to see my mock the weak face.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Have you seen your telework? They've seen stuff like that. I loved Robot Wars, came to see Robot Wars. I'm not sure if they've seen a mock. But my 12-year-old daughter has seen all the mock gifts because they pop up. Or she actually, she was sending me a load of gifts. The point, the minute she got a phone, she got a phone recently at 11, and she's sending me loads funny gifts. So I just they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've th. I loved th. I've thoved they've they've thoved, th. I loved they've th. I loved th. I loved thoved. I loved thoved. I loved th. I loved th. I loved th. I th. I th. I loved th. I loved th. I loved th. I loved th. I loved th. I loved th. I loved th. I loved th. I loved th. I loved th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've thoeded thoved th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th I know it's funny gifts, so I just sent her a gift of me doing a dance on the thing
Starting point is 00:24:47 and that kind of shut that conversation down. Yeah, isn't it cool? Oh yeah, you're a gift of me. You never did it for her. It's like the threat I constantly hold over her is that I will do strictly. I'll do strictly. And you know what else we'll do? We'll go around to your school and we'll dance in your school and we will. Oh, that's amazing. We'll do a VT, a funny, I even do quotation marks because you know they're only funny. I will do a funny VT with you and your friends. Oh my god, imagine being at school and your dad turns up. Yeah, with some 23 year old dancer that he's... Oh my god, imagine being at school and your dad turns up? Dancing.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Yeah, with some 23-year-old dancer that he's pawing. Like everything is wrong about it. That's amazing though. What a threat. I don't think there's a bit of threat. Oh, look, see now I'm going to imagine if you went on and you did that stupid thing where you fell in love with your dance partner, right? and then, and then, and then, and then, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, thi, threat, thi, thi, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, thi.. thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thooma, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th with your dance partner, right? And then, but midway through this process, you've brought this woman to the child's school and introduced her. Oh, there's your rear over that is, that was the front page splash.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Here's your new mom. You better learn Russian because she's... And Darrow, you've written two books for children. Three kids books, three kids books now, yeah. Sorry, the one I just finished is a third. And so what's the first one, there's one about astronomy in the sky space? The first one was about the very, very big, and the second one was about the very, very small. Things, you know, you can't see with your eyes that around you fields and electrons and whatever things, right, the case. So the first one was, first one was really good.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Second was okay, but the first one was really good. Like really, you know, first one was, second to, a bit too much, a bit, a too ms, it's so funny and nice, and it was nice and it was nice, and it was nice, and it was nice, and it was nice, and it was nice, and it was nice, and it was nice, and it was nice, and it was really, and it was really, and it was really, and it was really, and it was really, and it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really a really, it was really, it was really a really, it was really, it was really really, it was really a really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really a really a really a really, it was really, it was really a really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was a really, it was a really, it was a really, it was a really.................................. It was a, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was really, it was a really, it was a really, it was a really, it was a really, it was kids, it's a great space. What age group is it aimed at? It's 7 to 12, 8 to 13, that kind of age, like the top of primary school, really curious, very, very head of themselves kids at the bottom and to the top of primary school, maybe into the first year. And how do you kind of write for children? And how do you kind of, like, have, no, they never come back and this is Scholastic who do tons of these kind of books like whatever, they never come back and said, hey, maybe you should make it more idiomatic or you should make it.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Say groovy more. Yeah, kids don't go that. Here's a, here's a funky thing to do. Isn't it, isn't the space groovy kids? I'd be so paranoid the whole time doing anything like that they're trying to make it not sound too old or too young. I know. Wowser I say, kids, this is it's pretty amaze balls. No, no, no. Hello, Bay, I said. Have your kids read the books? Dar, have your daughter, the 12th? 12 would enjoy the second one more than the first one actually because she's a more biology read the books, Dara, is your daughter, the 12 year old read your books. 12 would, yeah, enjoy the second one more than the first one actually because she's there more biology and the nine-year-old loved the first one. Have you signed them? Weirdly, the nine-year-old asked and you go, well I'm in the house, you don't have to, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:55 You know, it's not so different now they're older and they're learning and and they're almost proper adult from like 12. Yeah, yeah, there is. I mean, it was grand. I mean, the bit I remember the bit I remember vivid with the number three for example was changing was was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was changing was a number. the number. the number. the number the number. the number. the number. the number. the number. the number. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that I was changing th. I was changing th. I was changing I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was changing. I was. I was. I was a and I was, I had this thing of, this isn't tough, why is this not tough? This used to be really tough. You know that getting up and doing the thing, bleary eyed and all that I said, oh wait, I have no, I've sacrificed everything that this is no longer a sacrifice. When I got to the third one I read that I'm up anyway all the time with them so I'm just this is just another stop in this punctuated sleep.
Starting point is 00:28:47 So yeah, I mean, I've forgotten about happiness. Yeah, that's gone. You forgot what it was like to be happy so then you don't miss it? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, it was more the sleep really I was focusing on. But yeah, there is a, there was a do you remember, you were there when Andy Murray came into Mock the Week? Yeah, yeah, and he was just out, he just had, whatever, they just had their first kit. And you know, we're doing that thing where you go, oh, when the thing, and he said, oh, and he six months still still not sleeping and I
Starting point is 00:29:25 was there and I did two-month-old who had just decided yeah and immediately down eight o'clock seven or whatever time we put him down bang and I'm going I can tell Andy Murray that but it sounds like I'm being a big Andy Murray like no really no sleep is it oh mine great. Mine's already got it. Doing fine. There was a, actually the coolest thing we did was, it was on number one, terrible, wasn't working it at all. Wasn't, number two, I think it was, wasn't working at all. Awful.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Had to be, had to be, had heat eventually conked them out. That happened, that's what we got through the first thing just doing that. That's called suffocation, Dara. That's... I basically did, choke-holded my poetry every night, right? But then maybe two we're going, we can't take this, and we're talking to somebody who said, no, no, this is what you do. and gave us a phone number of a sleep expert woman who you hire for a couple of weeks. And this woman phones you. Like at 11 in the morning, phones you and you pick up the phone and they say,
Starting point is 00:30:32 and she just says, put the child down now. And you go, okay, and then no matter what the child is doing, you pick them up, and you put them into a darkened room and you close the door. And then an hour later she rings she says she says she says she says she says she says she says she says she rings she says she says she says she says she says she says she says she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, the the the the the th, th, the the the th, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the their, the the the the the the the the the the the the you close the door and then an hour later she rings you says get the child up right and you go when you do this and now I'm making it sound like it's like a hostage situation hostage like exactly like is that Mel Gibson movie with a ransom and that she's on some voice changing software put the child down now and it's like it's all robotic like you go okay fine we're watching everything do not do not contact the child down now. And I'm like, it's all robotic. I can go, okay, fine. We're watching
Starting point is 00:31:06 everything you do. Do not, do not contact the police. But you do this five, six times a day and she basically goes, no, do that bang. And within three days. Because I think what people do, and I'm saying this just with this tiny amount of experience I have is, they want the child to be, to get tired, tired, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, do their, their, do their, do their, do their, do their, do their, do their, do their, do their, do their, do their, do their, do their, do their, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do....... Do, do, do, do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do their, do their, do their, do their, do their, do tie. tie. the. the. the. the. the. the. to, do not, do not, do not, do not, do not, do not, do not, do not, do not, do their. tiny amount of experience I have is they want their child to be to get tired and then fall asleep and they don't kids don't do that I don't get tired and fall asleep they get tired and they get tired and they get cranky and they stay awake longer so you just basically go no this door closes it's you go to sleep it's door closed and that you give them more sleep and sothen like after a couple hours put the child down and then we put the child down again. We had the cold. Yeah, it never got to the point where you know the phone would ring in the childhood on the Pavlovian response just go, just go thrown.
Starting point is 00:31:54 But it was amazing, it was genuinely amazing. And we would do it from a very early age as well. Did that just hold then after those three days? The pattern got set very very quickly. We kept on to her for a little while just to make sure, but after a couple of weeks it's working, or three weeks, every other and that's what she does. But she never met her. We did this tooge and we never met the woman. Yeah, and so she was somewhere in, You know, I look, the number would pop up and it's like an 01504 or something, you know, some random ten. Like, so I'd know, to this day, no idea where she was, who she was.
Starting point is 00:32:30 It's a bit, there's a bit of, you know, cat fishing about us. We don't know who the person is. How, how was you at the births as well? Because you're such a confident composed individual. Did it, would you calm or did it freak you out? The whole... It was all very, it was, it was all very, you know, it was a fine controlled environment, it was all lovely. And there's a photograph of one of the first things arriving, first one coming out and I had the camera out and said here you go, John took a picture and I took this picture which I think doesn't exist on any because we lost a computer and we lost a hard drive of a computer once and I think it got lost and it's probably as well because she was backlit and covered in Vernix and the hands were out like and I was like oh Jesus I remember going to never marry
Starting point is 00:33:17 that one off that's going to be a problem. We um when so when my daughter was born so we were having a natural birth and then we had to have an emergency of Caesarean and you go in and it's really scary because it's like an operation, but one of the nurses she was like, oh do you want me to take photos on your camera? And the photos she's taken are some of the most intense bloody photos I've ever seen in my life. Oh Jesus. They're properly like, like an alien coming out of a kind of like, oh sweet Jesus.
Starting point is 00:33:54 It's, you know, I'll tweet them afterwards guys so you can all enjoy them. But they're so desensicized to it like the startling. Well my wife's the surgeon so she's perfectly comfortable in that kind of situation with the ex-hus Grant whereas I'm like being moved around like a big lump and thing but the photographs are all taken from if you imagine I'm up the top end down down. Down right down there's nothing where she's cleared on the other angles. So she's taken all this. Yeah she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's cleared she's cleared she's clear she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cl cl clioned she's clioned she's clipped she's clipped she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's clipped she's clipped she's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's cl clared she's clared she's clared she's cl cl. She's cl cl. She's cl cl. She's cl cl. She's cl cl. She's cl. She's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cl. She's cleared she's cl cl cl cl cl cl. She's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cl. She's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared she's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's cleared. She's taken, yeah she's got like a brilliant kind of stadium down view like she's got great camera angles on it. You want to see that you want to remember this. Oh yeah, you know what you have to like a human drone access point you need people could have you like to have
Starting point is 00:34:34 you know what happens now is I'll go back you know when you have to go back through your camera roll to find something yes yes and you'll just get to like these 20 photos and like, whoa, I don't want to want to look at them. And yet I know I can't delete them. Yeah. They're special. And the the the Apple algorithm just throw them up on this day. You know that one you can watch on your photos where it will show you all the photos of the person with the same face? Yeah. Yeah, does that not. It them. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I they they they they they they they they they they they they they they can can can they can can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can't. I can't. I can't. I can't they can't. I can't. I can't they can't they can't can't can't can't can't can they can can can can can can they can can't can't can't can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can. I I I I I can. I can. I can. I can. I can. I can. I can. I can. I can. I can that. I can't. I can where it will show you all the photos of the person with the same face? Yeah, does that not? I presume it hasn't come up yet. It hasn't just done those quick. Well that was the thing I always, and I again try to make it work as a routine, never
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Starting point is 00:37:06 What? Come on mate. Keen O'Brien. Oh, that was well. Reyn-in-a-Brien. So, Darryl, a couple of your children are back at school, you're teaching one. And so you haven't yet had a day to yourself, just you, just you, just you, the house alone. What would you do if you when you finally have that moment? No work. You can't do your book, just you. Just me. Um, well, I'll buy the obvious, right? Um, yeah. And... Really, you saw the different comic approaches of Daro Breen and Rob Beckett in a moment there. That's why I mock mock the weight works. Massive wag. Yeah, honestly, you know, just fucking run a bath. The, yeah, if I had the things to myself, I don't know, would I watch something, would I play a game, I haven't played a video game in ages because the ones I want to play are two grown up.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I would narrow it up a bit I think, yeah, but then after an hour, time for another wink. So yeah. Thanks Dara O'Brien. Thanks, Dara O'Brien. Dara O'Brien. Wonderful, ma'am. Lovely fellow, isn't he? Joe what, for someone who's so massive and intimidating,
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Starting point is 00:39:15 Do you reckon your wife would want you to do it? Depends who I got partnered up with I think I'd go from the same-sex couple I'd very happily do a same-sex couple. Anton du Beck. Ah, the Beck and the Beckett? Yes, please. What a double. The smile on display, we'll get a Colgate advert off the back of that. I think you'd be, I think the country would love you, you and Anton Dube. I think we'd get ivory poached, to be honest, did their. Anyway, back to Dara, lovely man, genuinely he'd be a much more educational parent than I would.
Starting point is 00:39:45 At no point did we ask him, do you watch Bing? Because we presumed he didn't, do you know what I mean? Oh yeah we know he's not watched Bing. I just felt a bit like, he feels like he's a proper grown-up. Was like, how's all the birth? So they're fun, I was like, yeah, all fine. But then he plays computer games, that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. th th th th th th th th. th th. th. that that, that, th. th. th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th th th th th th the, the. Do the. Do the the the the the the the to to to to the the the to the the the thi thi. Do the got the Achilles heel of being a child yeah would you want to play computer games with your dad because when I was a kid my dad is not that he didn't like he's like no but it's like it would have been a completely foreign experience to him do you know what I mean playing a computer game yeah my dad just used to the thing you know you move it up in the air like you know yeah yeah but now that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th is th is the the the is the is theeeeeeeeeeeeeee is thoooooooooo the is the is the the the country, you know, you move it up in the air like you're actually. But now that that technology's come in so maybe he was way before his time my dad when he was by Mario Carp. He invented the Wii but I am. Do you think the chance of your Dara's son you'd be playing some kind of online game and then
Starting point is 00:40:38 then he'd walk in you'd realize you'd the thau fighting thau thau thau to realize th to realize th the to realize you'd the to to to the to to the the to their to their their their to their to their to to to their to to the other room fighting you. Oh yeah, that could happen, couldn't it? But they all know, didn't they? But I'd love to play computer games with my kids. But I've actually been playing Caller Duty War Zone, Josh. Oh yeah. And I'm, and I, but there are children on it. I did a stream the other day, and his name on call a duty was Jihadi John. Oh no. I know. Did you think you found him? Thank you to Dara, absolute pleasure to talk to.
Starting point is 00:41:13 We'll be back on Friday with some of your correspondence and a update on our weeks. Thank you very much, Rob. It's been a pleasure. Cheers, mate. Bye. Bye.

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