Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S01 EP48: The old nose stroke technique

Episode Date: October 9, 2020

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL' - S01 EP48: The old nose stroke techniqueMore misadventures in parenting from Josh and Rob.Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks. xxx Follow Rob's barber brother: @the brockleybarberIf you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @lockdownparent INSTAGRAM: @lockdown_parentingA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills. Each episode will be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you the listener with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing. Hello and welcome to lockdown parenting hell with Rob Beckett. Can you say Josh Widdickham? You're like to get it again. What's happened there?

Apparently, according to the email, he just found both of the names hilarious. Oh, our job's done. It'd be a great crowd member. However, you think he found our names hilarious. That is our two-year-old son whose full name is Oliver Noblet. No. Yeah, surname pronounced. She's put this in brackets.

Surname pronounced, noblet, unfortunately. He's going to be Mr. Noblet. At the end of the email it says much love the Noblet family. The knoblet's. You've just got to embrace it. I think the only way is to go, yep, knoblet. You have to embrace it. You can't skirt around the knoblet. Exactly. You've got to lean into it, haven't you? I'd have to know what the maiden name was if you took her husband's name. Yeah, because, you know. It's got to be a better knoblet, isn't it? Wadget. Worse. Wadget, worse. Vaggill. Wad, vaggl-v. Wad, v v v v v v v v v. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. Wad. W. W. W. Wad. Wad. W. Wad. W. W. W. You've got. You've got. You've got the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. Wage. th. th. th. thi. t. t. to. toda. toda. toda. toda. th. thi. thi. th got the opportunity these days not to use the surname if it's noblet. Yeah.

Just say that you're a modern person you don't need to draw attention to the reason. Well, it's weird though, because when we got married, Lou was like, oh, I don't know if I want to take your name. I don't care, we'll have double-barrel kids or pick one for the kids, I really don't mind. And she was like, yeah, because it seems a bit like sex is taking the name, which I sort of agree with. But what I find weir, I think the name is just arbitrary really, it's just that, but what I think is mental or wedding is when you're given away, the thridden, thian, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thin, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, th is th is thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's, thi, thi's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th And he goes, yeah, I'll be like, you're gonna do fuck all, mate. I'm in charge of this decision. When or if my daughters get married, I'm not giving them away. They're doing whatever they want. I've got no say in it.

Rob, they've gone, they've gone years before that, mate. You've got nothing to jump here. Because my kids this week, well the five-year-old, they've started teachers to read these little key no teachers, right? I'm joking. And it's not, they're not allowed to know the letters anymore. Do you know about reading? No. I like, I like to think to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. I th. I th. I'm the the five. I'm. I'm. I th. I th. I th. I th. thi. thi. thi. thi. this. this. this. this. this. this. the five. the five. Well, the five. Well, the five. Well, the five. Well, the five. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that lot, yeah? Yep, to Z. So far so good. Doesn't exist anymore, mate. It's all abber and kuh. It's phonics. Oh, phonics, yeah. So it's all like, I didn't know what was going on. And then the five

roles are like, abber, kuh, and it's all like try graphs and stuff. thi thr-I thi. I work that was beyond you, but I didn't expect it a five. I thought you'd at least guess the SATs. I mean, it is a worrying that I'm struggling at the reading bit. They're going to be doing GCSEs, mate. It's just that k'a-t-kata, k'a, k'a, because you have to blend it in. Yeah, you're struggling, I can hear it. Yeah, I know, so I'm all over that. Because basically, they normally invite you in and explain how to it. So when you go home, you do the reading with them,

they've got to make sure that you're not undoing all they did. When you were starting to go. So anyway, they said, obviously you can't come in normally, you go and have a cup of tea and they explain it all because of COVID, right? I had to watch a 15 minute video. They put together on how to teach them. I felt like I was in like trying to understand inception or tenet. I just didn't didn't didn't didn't th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the. I the. I just didn't theat the. I thi theaten theat to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their to their to their to to their their their their their their their their th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu the. I theathe theateateateateateateateateateateateateateate. I toeateateateateate. I to to to to to went on like a Q&A with the teachers. Yeah, that's actually called her Qua'anad. Yeah, that had been a great bit of Bantam, but I don't think it would have gone down well. On these parent zooms, I just sat there constantly not trying to ruin my daughter's education. And everyone asked a question apart from me. At that point, anything that I did want that that that that that that that that that that that I that I that I that that I that I that I that I that I that I that that I that that that that that that I that the the the the the and thean't thean't thean't thean't thean't the. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the was had had had had had had had had had had had had had had the. the. the. the. thean't thean't theann't theann't waseann't waseann't waseann't waseann't waseann't waseanededededed. theaneded. thean, anything that I did want to know, it already been asked, but I didn't want to just,

you can't just throw one in, can you? If you ever got a question. So I felt about, I felt like, I need to think of an emergency question I just ask. Yeah. Will there be lunch? That's often a good one? funny with rice. Yeah. Sorry, I've got to say, I'm just like, well, I was like, I could eat a rha-da-a-carada. How do they distinguish between a C and a K? Hey, I've got no idea, but after

this Q&A, it was expected that you do know. Right. Do you think, you worried? Do you know if there's any, any fans of the podcast for one of a less crass term who, who are, th, th, thi-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-it-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-it-in, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I th-in, I th-in, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-in, th-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-in, th- do you know if there's any fans of the podcast for one of a less crass term who are either teaching or parents at your school? Like, you worried about them, them come, on Monday you're going to be called in because you don't actually understand phonics? Well, yeah, maybe I'll have to stay behind for extra one or one. But yeah, because it's trigraphss and diagrams so a diagraph or draw I don't know if it's a northern thing diagram is two letters two vowels or two consonants or a vowel and a consonant which together make one I mean I literally

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They'd get me to read. And what I used to do is because I couldn't read it. I used to make up what was happening. Oh, what? So you were just trying to, you were trying to riff it. Yeah, so I'd be like, oh, I saw a picture of Biff Chibber and Kippur, and I've a they they I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've th, I've th. th, I've th, I've th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, and what, and what, and what, and what, and what, and what, and what, and what, and what, and what, and what, and what, and what, and what, and what, and what I, and what I, and what I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th. th. th. th. tho, I tho. tho. thi thi. thooo. tho. tho. the tho. thi. th. th. I th. I tham and Gibber have gone to the pet shop to buy a fish, because I sort of think it'll be something like that. And I was like, that's not what it says. I went, yeah, but it's what's happening, isn't it? And that used to be my defense.

But that is what's happening, isn't it? They have gone there to buy a... It would be difficult when you get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to 250 pages of that. I mean yeah I mean that's that's what I'm bit worried about though Josh because I do think I like you say it's not going to be long before they are way more intelligent than me and I'm like I'm gonna be that the dad because they're gonna come home all like oh I learned this at school the their the the the the they I I I I I I I I I I I I I I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they're they they they're they're they're their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they tho they they're they're they're they're they're they're the no dad, you don't know anything. And I'll be like, I'll put a roof over your head. I'm like, I mean, I'm not know how to speak, spell all right, but boy, I worked hard. Do you know what, yeah, I know how to make the edit on a panel show. That's what I know. I can rip off Jimmy Carl's slams, yeah? I actually, ironically, we managed to get that kitchen, that kitchen, that that that that that that that that that to get that to get that to get to get that to get that to get to get that to get that that to get that to get that to get that to get that to get that to get to get money should get that kitchen because I'll shit at spelling on countdown, right? Ha ha ha ha.

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Yeah, that is. So does that mean that if you'd like, not that I'm going to, but if you'd been teaching them of your own from the age of three, that you'd have been actually giving them bad habits? Yes, so they did say that that they have to sort of unlearn certain bad habits that you think you've done well by teaching them. Oh my word. I know, so that, you know. That's tough. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeea. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th name begins with, not because we've kind of taught her, but just, but now, I'm now thinking that we've set her back a term. Yeah, because it wouldn't be a B, it would be a B. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, so anyway, but I find it really, I've got it, you know, do you ever get that instant headache? Yeah. So they said, tryagraph, diagraph, and I and I and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm, I'm on Zoom. And I've not done a serious Zoom call ever. Normally it's just me staring down the little lens and pathetically trying to make someone laugh on some tell show somewhere. You hate a Zoom call, don't you?

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and it's going to be really weird for a few months, but this has to be done and now it feels like I'm never ever going to order at a bar again. I'm quite happy with that though I don't like ordering at a bar. Yeah that's about it. But you can't believe I'm saying this. I miss, do you know what I miss? we go into the office for last leg on a Wednesday and a Thursday. I just miss getting a Bonito's hat for lunch. It's the little thing. Do you know what I miss is the ability to go, oh we finished a bit early, I'll go into a shop that I've wanted to go into and have a look at that t-shirt. And no cue, you're allowed to try it on. Yeah, yeah, and you know what I miss? I miss doing a meeting for the last leg and not doing it on Zoom so I can be on my laptop

doing something else. Yeah, and not really listening. Because on Zoom you have to really listen. But by being in the room, I miss the fact that I'm in the room physically so I don't have to be mentally. Yes, exactly. That's what it is, Josh. I think when you're in the room physically you can switch off mentally, but on Zoom, you're not there, so you're eyes. You have to do so much work with your eyes on Zoom.

Have you ever been thrown a question to you in a Zoom meeting and you've been zoned, out? table. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well yeah, because you're so, it's so disrespectful for that because you're not even bothered to leave your house and you're not even listening on your laptop, so how lazy are you? Yeah. But I, do you know, what this lockdown feels like, it feels like, you know, what, the big lockdown, I don't know if they'll do another one, but like, if, you feel like you're a part of something, and now it's sort, and now, and now, and now, and now, and now, to, and now, and now, th and now, th and now, th and now, th and now, th and now, th.. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. to, to, to, to, to the they, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they, and you're not even they, and you're not even they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. And, th. th, you know, the war was over and it was VE day, right? And it's like, yeah, the big street parties, I'm going mad, that was Friday night, a lovely weekend and then back, back it on Monday, you go down the shops, you're like, what, it's still an egg a week? But we've beat the dances. We've won the war, we've beat the Nazis. We've still won the war. That's exactly what, do you know what it feels like? What does it feel like?

Come on, do another one. It's still another one. It feels like, you know like the, you know like when Oasis were really good for like two years? Yeah. And now I feel like I'm just having to put up with shit Oasis albums for the next five years. The Hindu times? It feels like, I'm trying to like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the.... the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the this fucking charade?

This is definitely maybe anymore. I don't know Rob. I'm so tired of it. I know that I know that's not what this is about. Oh no, I don't think that we're supposed to be distracting people for this. I think we're dragging them down with us. I think it's good to talk about it. I genuinely, I just missed the things things that I didn't that I didn't that I didn't that I didn't things things things things things the thi things thi things thi things thinks thinks thinks thi thi thi thi thi thi to talk about it. Yeah. I genuinely, I just miss the things that I didn't think I liked. Like what?

I miss commuting so much. I think it's quite a good mental preparation to go. It's very difficult to be at home and then go to work. So that commute, if it's not too busy and horrible, it's good to get you ready to go. A bit of music, get of a podcast. Come on a podcast going upstairs. I think you need a roft extension just to extend your... Podcast time, another flight of stairs. I'm never going to complain about sitting on a tube again. Genuinely. Although, of course I won't have to because I'm never going to sit on a fucking tube again how things are going. Oh Josh, how's your week been childwise? All good?

Yeah, fine. Um... You sound so annoyed. No, it's just, you know what? Yeah, no, it's fine. Um, her main carer at nursery has left, which is quite sad, so sad, and so she's trying to get used to new staff which you know it will be fine. She sounds like Landy Gentry. They're like a lord of a man of somewhere.

New staff. Yeah so so that's been all right. Yeah. Apart from that, it's been pretty uneventful. I'll be honest I bought a, I tell you I bought a blackboard for the fridge. Oh, what to put like family? To put my to-put, our to-do list. Ah, to do list. Our to do list, okay, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, how's that going? Getting all done? No, but it's much more visible. night. I can really see that I still haven't sorted out my life insurance every time I get out the fridge now. Yeah, so before you could just sort of switch off that it's a note on your desk to get that done. Now, you know, it's not a clock, you've had a couple of beers, you're watching it and tell you just really in your face, if you die now, everyone's to sort out your admin. Also I'm not going to lie, I'm having to use the chalk from my daughter's blackboard,

which is problematic. I need to put on there by chalk. Oh, here's something to ask you about parenting wise. Yeah, go on. I told, we've discussed her sleeping's gone a bit rubbish since potty training. Yeah, I've not heard of this phenomenon, but I'm willing to admit that if they're worrying about it, it would be, it does make sense that that's why they wake it up. I'm on a group with some other dads,

a couple of other dads, Matthew Crosby, in fact, who's been on this show is one of them. And I woke up this morning, and is there a better feeling a better a better a better than. And then being greeted by two texts on the group from people at 530 and 540 respectively complaining that their children have woken up? Genuinely, I know I shouldn't feel, I know that shouldn't have put an even bigger spring in my step. The pain of others is great though, isn't it? It's great. It was quite a weird, wake up 7 a.m.

Absolutely delighted. Look at my phone. Turns out the American election debate has been one of the biggest shit storms of all time. And then I checked my phone and people went up at 530 and 540. I've never had so much energy in my life. Can't wait to unpack those text messages. And obviously, Matthew the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their. their. the their. the their. the their. their. their. to. to. tooomk. their. tooomorrow, tooomk. tooomats. tooomats. tooomats. tooombs. tooombs. tooes. tooes. tooes. tooes. to be. to be. to be. tapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapap. taps. taps. taps. taps. taps. taps. taps. taps. taps. taps. te. te. tea. tea. tea. tea. te. te. te. te. te. t. te. te. te. teaaa. tea listens to this. Oh yes, so now is it awkward that you're... Well it'd be interesting whether it gets back to him.

Maybe I should start leaking things Matthew said in the group to his wife via this podcast. That's great. Let's do that. What have you got? Well I just, he says that she doesn't put in much effort and he does most of the leg work but I don't. I don't want to... No he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't. That is mental. Imagine if he did, he just got to. He actually said that he thinks she's parenting about 30% and he's having to pick up the slack. Oh I mean we've all thought it at some point in our life haven't we? No, he just to be very clear and I don't know how this is edited he hasn't said that at all.

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So it's just from Melanie. Lovey podcast, blah blah blah, blah. Anyway, my only baby is four-legged furry and barks Rob's elephant trunk story you do need to get that checked out yeah I don't I don't think that's okay I mean I'm sure you know you know all kids are different you know I'm very pro Monty sorry learning but if they are furry and got four legs that's too much too much too much for any anyway so the elephant trunk that the elephant trunk that that th so th so th so the th so the the th so th so the the th so the th so the the the th so th so th so th so the th so the the the th so the the the the the the the the the the tho tho thronge the tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they they to they they to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the true true true true true true true true true true true true true true true the true true true the true the the true true true true true true to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the elephant trunk story, that was my daughter that said CUNT for Trunk. It said it made her laugh and it made her remember that her friend's son, James, who's about three, well was about three at the time, after a visit to an air show, a family friend

bought him a model of his favorite plane, the Vulcannum. And for about six months, that was James's favorite toy. And he would proudly show it to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their the the the the to the the to the the the the to. the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. true. true, true, true. thu, true, true, true, tru, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember. And, remember, remember, thu, remember, remember, remember, thu, remember, thu, remember, thu, thu, thu, remember, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, remember, thu. And, thu. And, remember, thu. And, thu. And, remember, tooooomu. And, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, thr-s. And, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, thu. And, that was James's favorite toy and he would proudly show it to anyone and everyone and he would shout at the top of his voice and tell them all about his fucking bummer. I mean, that is bad, isn't it? I mean, that is bad, isn't it? It's not ideal. I actually think that's worse than the C word because it's homophobic. I mean, I don't even know if I'm allowed to have said that.

I think it's fine because you're quoting a child. It's fine because you're quoting a child. You're coming out and so that's it's zingers. Was it about the lollipop? We went, it's not think the child is using it as a homophobic slur, I think it's a mistake. I don't. I mean, that's what I've assumed from that.

Yeah, I don't. I think it would be very surprising if the child had decided this is the opportunity to really give their views on alternative lifestyles. This little conservative pro-Trump kid. Loves planes, loves the military. That is amazing. If any of your children do have sweary phrases, we're always looking for them. Oh yeah, that's great.

Ideally not homophobic, but you know. That goes for all emails. Yeah, as a, ideally not homophobic, but you know. What? That goes for all emails. Yeah, yeah. As a rule, nothing homophobic, please. I've got a, I've got another email here or Instagram message about them. Remember the Joe Brand episode was talking about the close gap between the kids. Yes. It's slightly different. And the Macy Gray method, as we call it, they close to give her. This is slightly different but hi Rob and Josh just listen to your Joe Brad episode I don't have a close gap between my kids but I have four daughters yes all girls all born in

different centuries. Decades surely. Yeah that's what she means but I didn't want to pull her up I was going to say all born in different is she a vampire? I don't know, but I don't think, I don't know if she's got four daughters, I don't know if she's added them up correctly because some of his masters at a strong point of a decade. So, so say it was 1979. Wrong, there's a hundred year gap. No, you're right. So basically, four daughters. So they've got Leah was born in 99.

Yeah. Sophy 2010. Yeah. Amelia 2016. Four daughters, so they've got Leah was born in 99, Sophie 2010, Yeah, Amelia 2016, and Eliza 2020. Bloody how? So to add, I am... Huge gaps, isn't it? I am 40, also have a 12-year-old stepson, and also have a grandson born in 2019. Whoa.

So my youngest is younger than her nephew by six months. Wow. Also to add my almost four-year-old, every time she gets in the bath, she stands up and shouts, I'm weeing like a boy and stands in a bath, peeing like a boy. Every single time, no matter if she's been for a weee right before her bath or not. Love the podcast and have been binge just in whilst walking the dog. She's got a fucking dog as well! th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! thi. thi. Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! to to to to thi. Wow. Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. to to to th. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. th. Wow. th. th. Wow. th. Wow. Wow. th. th. th. Wow. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. and have been bingedicing whilst walking the dog. She's got a fucking dog as well! Jesus! It is over two centuries. She has managed to do it over two centuries, but four decades. Two millennia? Two millennia. I've got a question for you.

I'll go on. So, afternoon, gents, currently sat in a hospital car park for the fifth time this week, as my wife is having checks done on the seven-day-old baby Izzy. Due to COVID, I'm not allowed near, which, though disappointing, has fallen quite nicely for the return of football. Anyway, we're in need of help. Izzy will only sleep during the night if she's constantly being held. I mean, I've had loads of bread longer. Seven days, get the kid a chance.

As soon as we move to a Moses basket, it's like the world is ending. Any tips on getting a newborn to settle off parents? I think you've just got to suck it up. I know that's not what you want to hear. I also have a few questions questions questions questions questions questions questions questions questions that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's tha. tha. tho. tho. I'm tho. I'm to to to to to to the the the the their, I'll to their, I'll their, I'll their, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll their, I'll the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho, I'm thi. I'm tho, I'm thoes. I'm toomoomorrow. I'm today, I'ma.ea, I'ma, I'm today, I'm today, I'm thoes. I'm thoes. I'm thoes. I'm that's not what you want to hear. I also have a few questions about how to deal with the in-laws, but need to make sure my wife does not recognize the stories as she listens to this as well, so need to add a few random details. Speak soon, chap, and keep up the good work. So we'll focus on the first one. Yeah, okay. So I love this, but it's plotting to, yeah, seven days, I think it's too early to sort of just if sleep at any point. It's that worry about, that worry about setting a precedent. So we've got to the point now where I was petrified, absolutely petrified of the thought of getting in a situation where my daughter would get used to sleeping in our bed.

But like, that kind of, do you know what I mean? We were the same and they've never slept in our they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've the they've they've their their they've their they're their their their their their their they're their their their their their their their their their their theired. theiried. theiried. theiried. their. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. their their th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to. to. to. to. to. their. their. to. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. you know what I mean? We were the same and they've never slept in our bed ever and I'm because they're so cute and cuddling you want them but like you know you just it's not it's not going to end well for anyone especially when they're really small because it's a bit less like if you do one thing one night it will reprogram this child for the rest of their lives. Do you know what I mean? But after seven days, I was worried that anything I did would lead to a lifetime of them being able to sleep only in a pram or whatever. Well, yeah, because we, you know, the Russell Cain's method is quite extreme about getting a kid to sleep and stuff like that, but I find they're all different where our second

one would just sleep, easy, like just sleep in a room on our own, fine, didn't really care, just just slipped pretty well. And then with our first one, we had to do cry out, to just sort of let a cry, told, because we never really wanted to do cry out out, cry, cry, cryried everything else and that's the only thing that worked. So I think each kid's different, but I think a weekend you just, you know, do whatever you've got to do. What I did loads, which I don't know if it made it worse, but I used to put the baby in the pram and just walk and I'd bring people, I'd bring people, like, and just like if they slept they they they they they slept they slept, if they they slept, if they slept, if they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd their. their. th. th. that, thirty, thirty, that, their, thi, thi, thin, do do do do do do do their. Do. Do their, do their, do their, do their, do their. do do, do do their. do, do their.. do, do, do, do, do, do, do their.. do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Do, do, do. Do, do, do their. Do, do thi. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. Do at home, obviously, and then I could have a kit when I got back and also I felt quite good exercise because you do put weight on, don't you just indoors, comfy. I remember because it was like, just before Christmas because my daughter was born in October.

So it would have been, I remember at like 10 p.m. just walking around the kind of shops, not going in, walking around the shops of where I lived. And there was a lot, like walking down to the place where they were selling Christmas trees in the park, and looking at that, and trying to convince myself that this was a lovely festive moment as I walked around. And I was walking, but you just keep walking past pubs. And she'd already fallen asleep in the pram and I was thinking could I nip in with the pram for one? Oh I just couldn't obviously. No I tell you what I have done though is if like I have put a little bit of wine in a cup have you for a walk? Oh for yourself. Oh yeah not the

I thought I meant to knock out the child. I was going to say, Rob. But that's such a good idea. Well, like, not not like getting battered, but like, when we were over that glass of wine, and then the back... And I just said, like, should I just take her for a walk, I put it in a little dark. What kind of, I walked, I couldn't give a show about the wine. What kind of cup are you looking at here? I put it in like a, you know like a reasonable coffee cup? Yeah. Put a bit of wine there and made it look like. Made it look like I just having a little late coffee because I'm a great dad.

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the security light, it's back on now, but that was a disaster. That like she's being caught by prison guard. But it's when you put them in the cot and your hands are underneath them. And you just have to transfer's been done. That was high-stake stuff. You can't do that of a week old day. They'll just wake up. Did you manage to do it then, Rob? The transfer? Oh yeah, I've done a couple of transfers in my time. Not always successful, I'd say about 50-50.

But when they hit, ohto sleep for 45 minutes anyway. I told you when I'm drunk now I rock myself like I used to rock the kids. Do you know about this? You mean? Well I'm a bit merry and I'm stood up at a bar, you know, which doesn't happen anymore. But I'd sway a little bit, not sway like I'm really drunk. But I just sort of like, do that sort of Oh wow. Does it get you to sleep? No, but it just sort of like calms me a bit if I feel that I'm a bit drunk. Is that mental? No, well, no, I don't think so.

I don't know. I've never really heard of it before. Yeah, it's. We should just tie up for that listener that we really have no solutions. But seven days, don't panic. Don't panic. Yeah, you can't get them into a proper routine by then, just do your best. If you've got a baby that's older than 12 days

and they're not sleeping through the hours, then you really are a bad parent. I should be clear on that. Oh, don't you get all the key nose ringing. Rigningan. I think that's very unfair on people that have a 12 day old and they're not thinking they should be. All right. 16 days, 16 days. Yeah, 16 days. Come on. Do you know if I told you about this book I read? I saw it on the shelf the other day, right? Because, um, what, to cut a long story short because it's so boring. We've run out of shelf space so I'm having to get rid of the. So I was like, what... Get rid of the knick-knacks, Josh? They're not taking up shelf space. They're in front of them, they're in front of the books.

I was going through, going which books don't need. I found this book. I bought, someone had told me was going to basically get my daughter sleeping through, uh, tw th12 tho tho, tho, th. within 12 weeks and he was like it's sure fire and I read it before she was born and I was like this is gonna be a piece of fucking piss I don't know I don't know what all these people are complaining about and the main tip seemed to be just stroke their nose ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha really so if they're not going to sleep, just stroke then. So it's like, you know, at like four weeks or whatever. I'm not going to say what the book is because I might be slightly misrepresenting them that this is, other the timings. But it was like, you know,

so it was like at four weeks, put them down, leave them in the crying. It's like four weeks. We tried it once. It was absolutely at 7 p.m. and we were like, well of course she's not going to go to fucking sleep. She doesn't go to sleep. She doesn't go to sleep when we're in the room at 7 p.m. And then it was like if they're crying, just come back in, stroke the nose a bit, they'll go to sleep. I got. I like, if someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone. If someone someone. If someone. If someone. If someone. If someone. Someone. Someone. Someone. Someone. Someone. Someone. Someone. Someone. Someone. Someone. Someone. Someonethat a little fly in the bedroom? Yeah. Also, do you think if it was like a surefire technique, it would be more famous? Oh, yeah. Oh, the old nose stroke. If, if the nose stroke worked, no one would listen to this. Because they're gonna have perfectly their own kids. And then we live in their great life where, oh God, the kids are annoyed, go in, give a couple of nose strokes. It's not like tixy links, I've got to knock them out for the night. Sleepy, little, like a bit of piran, give them a nose stroke, they'll get them to sleep. Imagine if someone had just discovered that.

Oh, fucking how two, to send to the group and I'll stick it on the Instagram. Someone has said, this is my two-year-old niece who looks like a salty Josh Widdickham. I'll pop it on the group. Pop it on the fucking group. It's really good. She's four now and it's a sister-in-law. She didn't give her name though, just her name, a little sister-in-law.

Oh, Sophie, she's four-hour, but it's taken when she was two. She, her eyes, tell the story. That is, I mean, she really does look like me. And that was a taker when she met Father Christmas. Oh, she's not happy. I'll put that on the group. It does. Salcy Josh Whitakum. There's, I've got another one, I look alike. Okay, I'll just take a photo of this because it's on the laptop. Oh, you're going to love this. You're absolutely going to love it.

They've also, they've provided a picture of me next to it. Right. It, that on the group. Oh my, wow. Also, there's a real Hugh Fernley Whittonstool vibe. There is a real Hugh Fernley Whitton still vibe. So this is from Kate who said, I got a random text on my brother asking if you ever thought how much, my six-year-old Charlie looks like Josh Whitakam.

He does. His head looks like it's bigger than yours. I mean they're different photos, Rob. I'm not next to him. Yeah, you know, that's the problem, isn't it, the problem, in it, with photos. I've got a bit more of a serious post, but I think it's nice to hear. Is it nice to end on a serious one? Yeah, it's serious but a happy ending. Okay, so let's finish on something a bit more serious, but it's good dear. This is, I'll double check. I'm not sure if she wants to say her name, so I won't say it. Hey guys, I'm a living nanny and as the kids have just gone back to school, I've recently started to listen to your podcast, which has been crying with tea. to to to to to to tea, tea, tea, to tea, tea, tea, tie, the tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, to tie, to to to to their, I, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try, I'll, I'll, I'll, I if you are getting a bit emotional, put some red wine in a coffee cut. That'll take the edge off. Only at extreme that

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Luckily, I had the children that saw me through anything as much as they can be terrors. They were the reason I carried on. I was so moved by your chat with Judy, and it has inspired me so much I've reached out for help that it's okay to ask for help and that you can't be strong all the time. Thank you for this and also thank you so much for the concert smile that I've had on my mug for the past two weeks after this into your show every day. I know this is probably a bit too soppy to be read out but I just wanted to let you know that you guys have helped me bring some laughter back into this bloody they're older it's all sass and eye rolls. So I think that's a lovely message. That is a lovely email to get. It's lovely, it makes it sort of feel worthwhile, isn't it, Josh? It does. It does. If genuinely, and I, you know, we all know that this started because we thought we were just going to talk about shit on the kitchen floor. I just wanted to the hour away from the k. to to to to to to to to thoomfixh. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the th. to to to me me. to me. the their, their, it's just, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, I. It. It. It. It's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the the the the the they. It's the the the the to me, the the the the to me, they. It's just, they. It's, nice that it's actually had some effect and some cultural worth. Can I add to that something that I think is a helpful email that we received?

So, listening to Josh on the last podcast describe his anxiety over his relationship with his daughter, I felt compelled to send you an email. This is from Ian Patterson. The most apt description I heard a long time ago is boys wreck your house, girls wreck your head. I have two daughters at age 11 and 21. The father-daughter relationship is completely different to other family dynamics. You're the only man in her life who will love her absolutely unconditionally without limit and want absolutely nothing in return. You're the only man in her life she can completely trust to only have her interest in heart. I think quite a few dads don't fully appreciate how important that is. We're a second example of how they should be treated by future boyfriend's husbands.

Oh dear, I'm in trouble. Also through our relationship to their mothers. Your daughter is too. Don't forget she's never been a child before and doesn't know what she's doing either. Don't become obsessed with the details and lose sight of the bigger picture. Have fun together, discover things, build trust through honesty and support. She will always love and adore you. I'm not sure about that. Oh, that's nice. It's nice. It's nice. It's nice. Because... What have they become? Is it's Radio 4? I wasn't going to read that out, I think it's nice so isn't it to have a nice messages in as well. I think you know we are after all not very good at our jobs. Well the point is it's really hard being a parent but we're muddling through together and it'll all be all

the right and if you are feeling down like that lady you emailed in and like when Judy was feeling down you definitely got to say something and get support because it's horrible on your own. Yes and if you are worrying right your relationship with your daughter just wine in a coffee cup that is all I can recommend. So have wine in a coffee cup and don't and don't try and teach them how to read because you'll probably get it wrong. That's the message. If you want to get in touch this is how. Email us, hello at lockdownparentin.co.uk, or tweet us at lockdown parents or Instagram, lockdown, underscore parenting.

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