Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S02 EP11: Sean Lock

Episode Date: February 26, 2021

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL' S02 EP11: Sean Lock Joining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) during the lockdown and beyond is the brilliant comedian, Sean Lock. Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks. xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @lockdownparent INSTAGRAM: @lockdown_parentingA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and member terms apply hello I'm Josh Whitakam welcome to lock down welcome to lockdown the show in which Rob and I to be a parent during lockdown which I would say can be a little tricky. So in an effort to make some kind of sense of the current situation. And to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills. Each episode will be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you the listener with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing. Hello and welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hell with Isabel, can you say Josh Widdickham? To us, Ridget.

Can you say Rob Beckett? Rod, Bicet. Very strong. Can I guess, is that Northamland? That is? North-East, is it? Well, do you know what? They live in Scotland. I don't think she's Scottish, is she? That is... Sound a bit jewell-dy. That is Isabel, who's two and four months, or she calls herself, Zuma from Poor Patrol. We enjoy the podcast and fall asleep to it, but it doesn't mean

it's a B-list podcast. Oh, I think it does. I'm sorry. I think we might have to take them off the podcast. We put the rest of it on another day if we've missed it. I think if you are definitely catching up again, it does slip into A-list. Yeah. But you've got to be catching up on the last 10 minutes. Yeah. You can't just ride it off as I've done. It does reek of Bealist. That is Vicky and David Pickering who live in Moray, between Aberdeen and Inverness. Whoa, that is far up north. That is well north, that is like any norther you get south up. And then, do you want to hear something? David is from Lewisham. No way! Yeah, there you go. I tell you what, what an advert for Lewisham? I'm going to get as far as way as fucking possible. It's a lovely area more, right? Up there. Yeah. Windy-yo. Fucking window. Yeah. Have you done Aberdeen, Rob? I have done Aberdeence. I think I've got it. I think I'm meant I'm meant I'm meant I'm meant I'm meant to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that that the that that that thatto be going to Invanes. Oh it's great, in the summer it's amazing it's light to about midnight. Well I look forward to it in 2022. How are you Robert? Good, pretty

good back on the ranch and you know all that sleep I thought I'd caught up on as immediately vanished. It's not how it works, is it? It's annoying you can't bank it. No, because when you're, what happens is that, and you get, like, you know, if you get tired, if you miss another night's good night sleep, it slowly drains away at you, isn't it? But if you had a really good night sleep and then you have one bad night sleep, it is immediately back to like 10% of it. Yeah, that's a, yeah. And what I've realized is, the reason why a couple sort of clash is that the parents are never truly both happy at the same time. Because you do things where some, like for us, Lou sort of does the getting up during the week and I'll get up Saturdays

and Sundays. So all that means is, Lou's got the umpul week and then it's buzzing at a weekend, and on the weekend, I'm, I I I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th is thi, I thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, thi, the, the, the, the, because the, because the, because the, because the, because the, because the, because the, because the, because th is th is th is th is th, because th, because th, because th, because th's th, because th's thi, because thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thi's thi's throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo's to take turns in feeling awful and is that what life is? Well, yes, it is. I think it is until there are about Seven yeah, maybe that's it's just a short period of time. It's just a decade of your life Rob lost never to be got back. Yeah, I had a tough. I had a toud toub toud a toub. I had a to thea. I to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be got a to be to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be to be to be to be to be got a to be got a to be got a to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be tha. I tha. I tha. I the. I the. I. I the. I the. I the. I'm. I'm. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. I the. I the. I the. I'm. I tough one, tiredness wise on Saturday, Rob. Last leg, got back at 1.30. Oh, do you have a few beers in a blur, Doc? No, I'd had a couple of beers until reached our legally allotted time when we had to leave, which was very... I'm going to say it. Oh, don't let the 3 a.m. girls hear this.

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gave it to us on plates in this like canteen I was like I'm out of dinner. I feel like I'm out out of dinner. So weird. Do you know what I prefer this thing with it I prefer not to be almost experiencing the joy life. Life. Yeah. Do you know what blows my mind? Maybe I'll change with age. But parents that take their children to Glastonbury, I'd rather just not go Rob. Do you know what? It depends on the age because I would take like mine this summer and there'll be like five and a half and three and a half to like latitude. But I couldn't do Glacester it's too big.. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'll. I'll the age. I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi tho th th th th th th th th th I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thate to to to to to change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll change I'll thate this summer and there'll be like five and a half and three and a half to like Latitude yeah I couldn't do class it's too big. Imagine knowing that you're in the greatest party in the world and you're

making a fucking wind catcher with your child in a circus field. See that's the thing with Latitude you're not at the greatest party in the world. That's what makes it easier. It's just like quite a nice festival for posh people. Yeah, exactly. Latitude's good to be fair that. I do like it. It's a bit cold. It isn't like no.

They'll still book you. Don't have to back track. I don't want to lose that latitude coin. But like Glastube is, get on it, go, go, go, to, to, to, to, that latitude coin. But like Glastonbury is get on it go mad kind of festival where latitude is no one ever really gets on it a latitude do they? So my friend, she listens to the podcast actually, her and her husband will take their children to Glastonbury. Their children about 9 and 11 8 and 10 that kind of age and they'll do one night each going out. Yeah but the... No. Imagine Rob. Imagine if your night going out was their their their their their th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No their. No their. No their. No their. No their. No their. No their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. No one one their thi. No one thi. No one thi. No and they'll do one night each going out. Yeah but the... No, yeah.

Number thumb. Imagine if your night going out was the first night. And you just got to look after kids for three days. Oh no. The way, the best way to do it is, I've got some friends that are older that do, they're in their 40ss and their kids are teenagers so they can like literally be left like they're at uni or whatever and they don't even have to worry about getting a babysit or whatever they just go to I-BFA for a week and just go insane. I mean and it's just like that is a 15 year buildup. That's like they are of that. It's a 15 year build-up because that's like they are

that like is when you have comedy crowds the heart the hardest audience I find is normally a mum and her mate on the on a first night out after having a baby because they're all a bit they're very nervous about leaving the baby they're lightweight because they've not drunk as much because sometimes they've been breast feeding or whatever they've not drunk as much because sometimes they've been breastfina or whatever. They're really excited to their friends but they're a bit emotionally a bit stress because they've left their kid and they drink too much and just go fucking mental. Well do you know do you know the worry there Rob? Yeah. We haven't gigged in a year since we started doing this podcast. Welcome to your new audience.

Oh god. That's going to be your tall audience. Yeah, it'll be like inflatable cocks, sashes, dick straws, hen-doo central mate. Classic, classic Hendoo. What's the most popular hendou? Stretch limo, Rob Beckett live, and then Flares Nightclub. I'm going to get Stacey Solomon to open. She'll be 20 minutes on loose swimming and Joe Swash. Yeah, I think I can't take them to glass debris and that's too much I don't think. Not for me. I'd rather just leave them on their Nanogranda or something.

Yeah, exactly. So how are parenting things? For me? I've got a few things I've got to go through here because because because because because because because because because because in the flat one I for a bit. Yeah. Screen time, it's getting out of hand to the point now where they can recognize the sounds of TikTok trends. What? So there's a tick, do you like, you're not on TikTok, are you? No? So there's a tick-top. I'll get the sound for you, right? Called. Oh no, no, that was just the advert. Oh, okay. I was gonna say, mate. Because of my habits online, I'll get adverts for like JD Sports for like a nightclub or something really like young and then it's like debt management.

You know, this sound, oh no, right? This sound is used on clips of people doing something wrong. This, do you know this? No. So this is played, so if someone's walking along like an icy river, and then just before they fall in, it plays this. So it's like a sound that's used on Tick Tock and then someone's walking and then, oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no, so, so it's like a sound that's used on, Tick Tock, the girls run in going, oh no, oh no, show me the oh no, show me the, because it's normally slaps it fall.

So they're aware of Tick Tock trends, which I don't know if I'm creating some sort of Bill Gates Zuckerberg super brain or they like the Simpsons. They're into the Simpsons, which I like. That's a good thing. That's good. I imagine you're all like this. You love music and you love blur and stuff like that. I imagine you really, I don't like music as much as you like music, but I imagine

you really want your kids to be into cool music that you can go to gigs with them when they're older and the reality is that won't happen but you sort of want that but you don't want to push it because the more you push it is less likely but they've sort of organically got into the Simpsons where it was just on one day. I'd love my children to be into the Simpsons. and Bluey. Blue is a good one but it's not as good as the Simpsons but get it into the Simpsons. So I'm really happy about that. How much do they get it? Does it make enough sense? Well it's so funny though constantly funny. I don't know why I think it works is because Simpsons there's no real narrative in each Simpson's episode. Something happens and it goes to thoe. It's th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they thi. they they thi. thi. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're the. the. the. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. the. the. they're they're they're they're they I found and I'm looking for the puzzle piece I found this outfit that I used to wear when I was 20

Homer would say and then it does flashbacks and stuff so I think they're quite like it's snappy But I think he's just Homer being silly. It's almost like it looks fun doesn't he it looks. Yeah, it looks yeah, yeah, it is in many ways. He's the 90s daddy. He's in the he. It is. It is. Yeah'm very pleased about that so what would you most like your children to be into Rob and if you aren't so I just want them to be happy I'm hanging up I I want them to be I want them to be to be boxing fans I want them to I want them to be boxing fans? I know I know it sounds bad I know you want to bond with your kids but I quite like like like their their their their their their their their their their their their to their to their th th to th to th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the tho tho the tho the the tho tho the the the the the to th want them to be boxing fans? No, do you know I would know? Golf? I know it sounds bad. I know you want to bond with your kids but I quite like having stuff that it's just like what I do. Do you know what I mean? Well I can't wait until they're like 14 and just want to go shopping with their mom and I just watch football all day. I know it sound like some sort of dad from their thi. I know I'm sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort. to to to to to to th. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their th th their their their tho. I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tho. I to to to to to to be all woke and thingy, but that is just normally what happens, in it. The daughters go shopping with their moms and the dad sits on their own drinking. That's that's what I grew up with. Oh mate, Rob, is that your dream? That you're going to basically be joking.

But I would miss that. I'm only messing becauseto go like if it was a traditional sort of girly going shopping going to the spa which is sort of stereotypical activities I would happily go to a spa I'd go and get a manicure a pedicure I'd love all that so I would happily do that with Lou and the girls but yeah also they'll they'll be able to catch up with you because on their girly day out they'll end up getting a cock ballooned the balloon a balloon a balloon they'll they'll they'll they'll their they'll they'll their they'll their they'll they'll they'll their they'll they'll they'll their they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they they they they they they they they they'll their they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they they they they they theylary theylary theylary they'll they'll their? Yeah, exactly. Good. And Joe, well, good on them. If they're going to enjoy himself. But yeah, I don't know, I think I'd quite like them to have something that they love to do. But for me, I love doing stand-up. And like, even if I'm getting sort of paid, I'd always do it as my hobby. So if they can find something that that something something something something something something something something that that that that that that that that that that that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their to their to to to to to to to to to to to to their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they they they they they they they they they they they they they their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. the. the. the. the. the. their their their the. the. the. they they they they they're they they're they totally, I would say this though Rob. Yeah. If you somehow managed to send your career in a direction where you're just doing stand-up as a hobby with no way of getting paid, yeah that is bad. It's gonna be

it's gonna be bleak even if people going you know that guy. He used to play huge venues. Now we can't even get a fucking fee for this. We We refuse to pay him and he still that he that he that he that he that he that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to to the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to play huge venues. Now he can't even get a fucking fee for this. We refuse to pay him and he still does an hour. We've had to start putting them on at five o'clock when they're filling in the venue. Back to school signals a fresh start for students. New classmates, new teachers, new lessons. Change is in the air.

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But no, I think, I think having a child who played sport would be too ten, it would always be tense wouldn't it? Yeah. Do you remember they used to cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to cut to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho. tho. the. the. the. the. the the. the the. theat. the. the. that that that that their th like, you know, Judy Murray. Yeah. She's never having a good time. Yes, but I think, as I'm getting older, actually winning isn't that important, really. Like you want to win and they'll want to win and you understand that they'll get nervous and really want it. But you've got to remember Robblen's you're not playing for the same prize money as Wimbledgahed. Yeah, I know, but I just, I was just into a Johnny Wilkinson document.

If you listen to Johnny Wilkinson's like the way he's changed his mental approach to stuff. No. He's completely, he's done loads of therapy, I think, and just completely changed the way he's thought about stuff and how that his approach, he's thoanne, he's, the world cup, and how the approach, when he was at it, he's, he's, the most, the, was, the, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, the, was, was, was, was, the, was, the, was, was, was, was, was, was, the, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, the, was, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, the, and, and........................................ to, was, to, to.... to, to, to, to. to, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the, the World Cup and about how that he put too much pressure on himself, he thought that winning the World Cup made you be something, but actually is what you feel inside and stuff like that. So I think, even if they did do sport, I could hope, no, I'm telling lies here, I'd be fucking screaming from to win. But I think that's a very good point about Johnny Wilkinson. I think particularly in what we do, or th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, or thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their is their is the the the the the the the th, actually is th, actually is th, th, actually is th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the their is their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, is thi, is thin, is thin, is thin, thin, thin, thi, is woooooomoomorrow, is woomorrow, is what is what thi, is what thi, is what thi if you're in an industry that's competitive there's this kind of presumption that there is going to be something you achieve that will unlock a happiness in yourself and it doesn't happen.

The realization that that isn't the case is probably the most freeing thing that can happen to someone. A hundred percent yeah. We can both identify people that haven't had that realization no and I hadn't of have in the last year or so and I think COVID's helped with that, but when you realize actually getting live of the Apollo or selling out your tour or hosting the variety performance or getting a bafter or whatever those things are in your industry, it may be becoming a headmaster, it might be doing a million pounds of a sales at a their, it, it, it, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, a million, doing, doing, a, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, a, doing, doing, a, a, a, doing, a, a million, a, a, a, a, a million, a, a, a million, a, a million, a, a, a, a million, a million, a, a million, a million, a million, a, a million, a million, a, a million, a, a million, a, a million, a, a million, a million, a, a, a million, a, a, a, a, a, a, a million, a, a, a million, a, a million, a million, a, a million, a million, a actually get there and go, ah, that's not what's gonna make me happy. It's your approach to the world that makes you happy. So I think, I don't think I would be that tense

watching them when the tournament, because I'd know that they'd want to win, but I'd just got to understand that they're on No one could have got through to Johnny Wilkinson before the World Cup Final and go, this don't really matter man, do you know what they'd be like, fuck off, I've got a win. I think what we're both trying to say, Rob, is that we didn't want to be number one Peter Crouch. You can have your fucking number one sure we were the biggest podcast in the country this year. Who cares baby?

And no, genuinely, I know we're joking though, but genuinely if we doing this show, I just love doing it and I really enjoy it, talking to you and it's freeing and fun and I enjoy it. If we were 50th in a chart or 100 or 1, it's nice to be one and it's good and you get benefits from all that and it's easier to guess and that but I am their their th.......... And their. And to be. And their. And to be. And their. And th. And their, th. It's th. It's th. It's their, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, their, th.... their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thin. t. toda. today, to. today, today, today, today, today, thin. thin.'s easier to but guessing that but I I am now but my approach cause since all of COVID and it's maybe a bit too deep is I'm just doing stuff maybe because I've been on my own for two weeks but my my approach now is to make sure that every day I wake up I'm enjoying that day's activities and it's fun and I enjoy it because I can't waste any more of thi tho' th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm the thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I'm thi to to to to to to toeeeeeeeean. I'm toda. today today toe. I'm toe. toe. stuff just for the sake of saying I did that. Do you know what I mean? Totally, totally, Rob, couldn't agree more.

That's genuinely, maybe there's positives you can take out of the lockdown like that. And in four months when we come out of the lockdown. What I think what it is is, the lockdown's made you realize everything's been taken away from us. If you think about all of our freedoms to the point of, like the other day, like I went for a walk with a friend and I was like, oh my other mate, his other mate worked in that building, oh does he want to come out as well? I was like, well we're not allowed to do that. The fact that you can't walk disregarded as you know me and you don't film in and they'll go oh you're going off to Portugal to film you know oh God well I'll get that in here like when the reality is oh my God get to go to another

country and meet new people and all that stuff sort of gone so I'm my approach now is to make sure that every day I'm doing something I'm that that putting up with it for what someone else deems as a success. I think, do you know what? We didn't expect this to be the intro to Sean Lott. And you're going to get a very different vibe from him. Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Oh wow, yeah. If you're feeling chilled out and the Zen listening to this, just pause it

and go and enjoy that feeling for me. Yeah, and then when you want to sort of swear at the world, come back and plug into a bit of locking. It's a good episode, don't it, Joshua? Sorry for getting a bit serious, I think it's good sometimes, isn't it, Josh? Totally. I think that's what this is for. And I think the things things things things thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin the thin' thin' the the the thin' the the the the the the tho thin' their thin' tho' to to to to to to to to to their their their, to their, th. I'm their, th. I'm their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. the. the. theat to theat to to to to to to theat theat to theat thoooooooo' the. thi. the. th but I think it's good sometimes isn't it Josh? Totally I think that's you know that's what this is for and I think the thing with Sean lock is of all the comedians he's probably the one I most enjoy watching and the one you're most excited to see what they say. He's so good. He barely podcasts if he ever has podcast so it was amazing when he said yes. I think he's one of the best comedians his country is the c c c c c c c c c got, is it three kids? Two kids? Three, three teenage kids. Yeah, which is, and the thought of having teenage Sherlock's in the house. Well, you'll find out how it's going. Hello, Sean. How are you? I'm okay, thanks. Can you hear me all right? It's my micro'c-you're with my microphone. Thank you. th. th. th. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin's. thin't. thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin'ateateateateateateateateateateateat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Thank you. This is an honor. You've only ever done one other podcast Sean. So this is your second. This is very exciting. Thanks for doing it. Second podcast, yes. Can you give us a quick explanation of your set up at

home? How many kids have you got and their ages? Oh God I know this one. Now I've got two daughters one 17. No she's no she's 16 but she should be 17 in March. I've got another daughter who will be 15 this this this this this this this this this this this th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I is is is th. I is th. I th. I th. I th. I the th. I the the the th. I the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I's th. I's th. I's thi. I's thi. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. 16, but she'll be 17 in March. I've got another daughter who will be 15 this week, and I've got a son of 11 who will be 12 quite soon. Do you teach them, Sean? No, no, because they're at an age where at any age it wouldn't be of much use, but their age is, yeah, they don't need me. Which is quite good actually because I've got friends who've got younger kids who say it's hell. I'm really glad I've escaped that. But there's other issues, let's call it.

What are the other issues? Well, you know, just living together in lockdown. It's hard, isn't it? I know the probably, possibly when people see three comics talking about parenting, they're assuming we're going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going the their their they're going going going going their they're going they're going when people see three comics talking about parenting, they're assuming we're going to choose the humorous side of the topic. Yeah. But I'd like to counteract that and kind of balance that. I think it's terrible. I mean, it's really terrible what they're going through kids.

I really do. I feel for them. So it's fucking terrible. When they're older, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, I the issues, I are the issues, I are the issuesrible for them. Terrible. When they're older, the issues are really about attitude and you know just generally what the troubles they're going through which are compounded by lockdown. So I'm seriously I'd be love to criticize my kids. I think they're doing an amazing amazing job of coping with it. All they've lost all the socializing, which is what you are the you you you you you you you you you you the you the they are they are they are the they are they are the they are their they are their their their they are their their their their their their their they're thoes thoes thoes. I thoes. I thoes. I they're tho. I they're th. I thoes. I their their their their the issues. I the issues. I the issues. I the issues. I the issues. I the issues the issues the issues th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I they're they're they're they're they're thi thi. I thi. I thi. I the. I the. I thean. I'm thean. I'm thouean. I'm thean. thean. thean. thean. I'm theateatea. I'm theate it. All they've lost, all the socializing, which is what you are as a teenager, a social being and you want to find out about how to make friends and more friends and meet boys or girls or whatever. I don't know, you can't call them that,

whatever, can you? That's me off channel four for a couple of years. Like, you know, they're moody, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. You know the idea of a moody teenager? Yeah. They are moody. They're fucking moody. I'm unbelievably fucking moody. Imagine how moody my teenager's gonna be. You know, you're so, you know, genuinely, you know, I'm sure you have your moments as we all do, but you it's going to be a very different if you think of it as like a sort of a measurement like you're that moody so they're gonna be that extra bit moody mine are my my up there they're way they're they're touching the ceiling so they're very moody very very moody which I've learned

to both understand and be completely ignorant of say in the same day you know to me yeah in the same understanding thoughtful considerate parents who is fully aware of everything they're going through and the other times of the day you just think you little fucking ignorant I can't I don't oh oh Christ I wish I'd to try to the other time to the other time to the day and the other other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other to say say say say say say say the other to say the other the other to say to say the other to say to say the other the other the other the other to say to say to say to say to say the other to say say say say say to thi the other to say say say say say say say say say to say say to say say to say say say to say say to say to say say the same the same the same the same the same the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other times of the day you just think you little fucking ignorant I don't oh Christ I wish I'd tell you the boarding school. How were they were they were little were you a hands-on dad? Well yeah to a degree I mean I was touring a lot it's unstable so it might when I was at home definitely but you know there were periods or I was away for quite a long time yeah so so so so so the to' the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their tha their tha tha tha tha tha tha tha their tha tha tha tha tha to to to to to their their their their to to to to-I to-I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tha tha tour. tha. tha. tou. I tha. I tou. I te. I tou. I te. I te. I to. I was to. I was to. I to. to. to. I to. I to. to. I was to. I was to. I was to. I was to. I was at home, definitely, but you know there were periods of I was away for quite a long time.

Yeah. So it's quite strange for them really because they would have me around and then I'd be gone for, you know, when you go on a tour, you're gone for, you're gone for, you're gone for, three or four months, although you did come home, you know, you know, it's like. So, but really you're away. You're a way, you'll you. You're you. You're good, you're good, you're going, you're going, you're going, you're going, you're going, you're going, you're going, you're going, you're going, you're going, you're going, th, th, th, th, th, th, you're going, you're th, you're to, you, you're th, th. th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, their tho. their tho. tho. tho. their tho. their their, their their, the four months, although you do come home, you know, you know what's like, but really you're away. In many ways, it would be good to be gone for that period of time, but obviously your wife needs help, you come back and then you go away again. So, yeah, I was hands-on as much as I could, and I enjoyed elements of it, I found just awful. Just all the jobs and you're knackered and he's got more jobs and then there's more mess and then there's more this and that. So sometimes you would find it absolutely enchanting and other times. That's any normal person would probably experience or maybe not admit. So you just go this is just, this is just shit. This is awful. It's got people moaning at me and shouting at me all the time. And I know in front of me the whole day there's just task after task after task, after task,

after task, which I was never built for. How are you as well like with the sort of small talk at the school gates for the other parents because that's something that's unavoidable? Yeah, I'm all right with that. I'm fairly good social animal and I like people and I know you find that hard to live. You're great, great person to have a chat with, but if you had to line up some UK comedians and who would be more willing to have a small talk conversation I wouldn't put you at the front of the list no you're right you're right absolutely right and that would be very mood dependent yes yes and I could tell in your eyes whether to or not have the chat yes yeah I would be doing that very much deliberately that would be very intelligent of you to respond that message

and I tone I get it just to the right tone so it's not like start running that that that that that that that that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to the the to to to to a spot that message. And I tone, I get it just to the right tone, so it's not like start running. Yeah, just a nod and a walk past at speech. Yeah, because I go like, no, this, I go, oh, gosh, you're doing your start running look. That's not good. You just want them to not talk to you. Have you been asked to do speeches or talks at your kids schools? Yeah, I've done a few, I did a few quizzes, I did a few quizzes, you know, charities,

you know, kids and bobs, which is nice to be able to help out. And do they watch you on tele, your kids? Yeah, I think they do now, but not, I don't think they choose that. You know what I mean? I don't think they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th th th th thin thin thin thin thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thi thi thin' thi thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I'd use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use use they choose they choose they choose they choose they choose they choose they choose they they they they they they they they they they they they they they thin't thin't? I don't think they go, right, there's all of Netflix, there's, there's, we finally got them to start using the eye player again and there's not an uncool old fuddy-duddy's piece of software. Because they just had this thing that they would only watch Netflix really annoying. I'm sure it's another whole other topic. I don't think they've seen me, but I don't mean they'd watch me by choice, not this age, anyway. And when they were smaller, Sean, I can't imagine you quaintly playing with a child and

pretending you're having a tea party and stuff like that. Did you throw yourself into that? Was that your kind of thing? Yeah, yeah, I know I enjoyed all that. I like playing games. Nerf gun. Yeah, my wife got it for me for my birthday. It's brilliant. It's a really powerful one. They are fun. But you can really buy your way to the top of a Nurf war just with an arm's race. It's just a shame didn't have them when I was a kid. I imagine how happy I would have been. When I was a kid you had a gun that actually fired, and was considered to be a to be a safe to be safe to be safe to be safe to be safe to be safe to be safe to be safe to be a to be a to be a to be a the the the the the the the the th th the the the the the thefi thefewi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the my the my the my the if th. th. th. th. the if thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. the. the. the. the. thee. theeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thea. thea. the. the. th when I was a kid. I imagine how happy I would have been. When I was a kid, you had a gun that actually fired and was considered to be safe. It's an amazing demon. I hat's off to Mr. Nerf.

I think he's a man, isn't he? He's like, when he wants to be a chocolate factory, but instead they're just making guns. You got umpulmpers. They are actually far in tiny umpulmpolumpa on Pellumper's. They are actually far in tiny and Pellumpers, that's what the bullets are. Well, yeah, yeah, I love playing with my kids. Yeah, I used to really enjoy that. And what about disciplining them? Are you a soft touch or you the one that's in charge of telling them off? I'm being all over the place to be honest. I'm not a very honest with you, I would say looking back I'm not a very good parent. What about you say that? I was so because I'm inconsistent. Okay. Which I don't know whether that's a common thing but I would say yeah I would say my wife's obviously a much better parent than me and really is taken on the reins of dealing with their behavior because I would go one, we one minute, I'd

be reacting quite strongly towards their misbehavior, their rudeness, they're just, oh, they're just fuckery. You know, sometimes I just go, what the tale are they doing? Why am I living with these awful people? What would prompt that? What kind of behavior would it be not being polite? You're just shouting at you, demanding you haven't done something, you're this, you're that. I mean my kids are in age really swear and I have to admit over the years a few words have tumbled from my lips.

Which I'm not the most proud of and so they use those with you know justif I've been if I saw in my house I'd just literally get a whipped around the head at any age it's well I'm maybe at 17 or 18 yeah but you know you would get a clout and that's well I'm quite oh I'm all quite from a different sort of era. So I'm a bit confused when they start swearing me, I think, you're supposed to hit people when they swear. Yeah, but I go, I know you can't do that anymore.

Shout back at them. So would you say you're a mood-dependent parent where if you are in a bad mood you'll... Yeah, I think I am and I think I'm really disappointed in myself in that way. Yeah, I would say I'm a inconsistent parent, yeah, which I think is very, isn't good and I think is due to the parenting that I had, you know. So I would say I had very inconsistent parenting in many ways. There's a lot of lot of unfortunate stuff happened. So I don't have a consistent parenting template. Yes. Because what you need, I think you know if you had that template you kind of know how to play the game and I think that you know rather than break the cycle I've kept it going.

But just reduced it slightly. Yeah, yeah, toned it down. It's the edge off. Yeah, totally down, took the edge off. So were there things that you wanted to do as a parent to like discipline kids or you know how to treat your kids and then your wife of blood, no that's not what you do but that's what you were used to? Or was you aware of it? Every hour of the day, well not every hour of day, but I'd say she tells me no, oh, for God's sake. Why have you done? Oh. Have you got the examples of when that's happened? Every day. Well just she said, why do you engage with them when they start shouting at you you don't get into an arguing with a 15 year old you just ignore them walk away. Yeah you know I had a really good point. Do you quite enjoy that confrontation and a point of an argument if you think you're right, back and forth? Yeah I think I don't think I enjoy a confrontation but but I don't have any I don't have a I don't reject it as an idea

I think a lot of people just go they don't I can't do computation I don't like compensation yeah I don't have any kind of I don't embrace it by accept it yeah you don't find it difficult yeah it's part of everyday life yeah and I and I suppose my children are the like that, when my older, my daughters are, and I would say that that would be personality, just that was what you're given, an extension of it, but also I would say a good portion of that is due to how both of us have parented them, but possibly my influence has been cranked. A lot of people would probably be nodding things that some of the things I'm saying,

I'm sure it's more common than than is admitting. And I think that we need to sort of admit that, you know, we fuck up on a daily basis, yeah, monthly basis. So I'd say I've fucked up, but I do just still have been really enjoying my kids and I still, you know, have a really good laugh with them. But then seconds later, we're at it, actually, it sounds quite like a Mediterranean family that are quite passionate. Well, yeah, I tell them, I love them every day and you know more than once a day. And I, I apologise to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tha. I th. I th. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I their their their their their th. I quite passionate. I tell them I love them every day and you know more than once a day and and I apologize to my kids when I'm out of order you know. I think that's important I don't think I think that's a very new thing where

like maybe your parents wouldn't have apologized if they'd done something wrong. Ever. Ever. Yeah. And how does it go when they apologize to you as well or is it? A a a a little? or is it? A little bit, but more, it's just the exception, nodding and go, well sometimes my daughter says, and now, I bet you after this, when you finish, you're gonna just come back and say sorry in about half an hour into my, she's not quite as gruff voices I'm doing. And she's right, you know, I do, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, And she's right, you know, I do, you know, sometimes it is predictable, but at least I do. Yeah.

Well, I think that's all lockdown hormones, teenage daughters in a house is, it's, you know, it's it's a boiling pop. It's really tough on them. And that was, it must be frustrating, you know, especially when you're looking at your kids, learning and not being with their friends and stuff like that, when their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thinks, thinks, tho, thinks, thinks, thinks, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tho, tho, th............. And, th, th, th. And, the, the, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thou. And, thean, thean, thoan, thoan, thoan, thooan, thoan, thanksthat. Like when COVID ends it were, and there's no restrictions on lockdowns, is the one thing that you like to do with your family or your kids? Would you just, would you want to go on a big family holiday together or would you want a bit of time away?

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that you set their phone contract up through yours don't ask me how she's done it. Yeah so she can control not just how long their phones are switched on, but also what apps they have and how long they have on those apps. Oh wow. Yeah. So what's the main app that they, they, there's a lot of Instagram, obviously, Tic-top, tho, D-pop, those kind of things. But what we did with with my eldest, we said, right, okay, we'd we agreed, we agreed, we agreed, we agreed, we agreed, we agreed, we agreed, we agreed, we agreed, we agreed, we agreed, we, we said, right, okay, we'd agreed with her, you have control of your phone and you can monitor it, but it's your job to monitor

it, and then, but she still had the information and she was like, 10 hours a day on it. After three months of this, we said, you can't control it, can you? She's like, yes, I can. And go well no you can't can you? You just, you're ten hours a day. I mean my eldest I think it's particularly more addicted. My middle one is less, she's more inclined to go off and do stuff. She's actually more, she makes things, she sows a lot and does constructive stuff and paints and does things like that. But my eldest one, yeah, she gets really stuck into her phone. I find it amazing, like the thought of how to decide when my daughter whenever she gets the

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to directly kids use phones. Yeah. Because they know how, it's designed to be addictive, the like button, the line to be addictive. But what it is is because parents didn't have the debate, and parents, there's the soft parents who go on your phone all the time. So the other kids their parents, tha tha tha tha, tha, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, I I thi, I thi, I thi, their, I'm their, I'll their, I their, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I'll thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, their, the, on your phone all the time so the other kids eventually feel the pressure to go on their phones yeah all the time and be on their phones so you know it's that kind of peer pressure but it is something that's so powerful that it should be it should be at least they should be at least they should be discussing them about banning them so you're the eldest daughter when you're just to the told. the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to be. their their their their their their their their. their. their their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to be. their to be. Soe. Soea. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, know, did your eldest daughter, when you talk about that and the phones, does she just sort of palm it off as, oh, you're just behind the times, you don't understand,

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Are they like, do they love watching YouTube? No, they're not. They go on D-POP, they look at clothes and they go on Instagram. Because didn't you move like down to the coast, the coast, to, to, their, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they. Wea, they they they they tho, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, they. Maybe, they. Maybe, they. Maybe, they. Maybe, they. Maybe, they. Maybe, they. I I I I I I I I I I I, they. Wee, th.a, th.a, th. Wea, th.a, th. Wea, th. Wea, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the a coat the coast and then come back to London? Yeah. Was that a chart? Was that the kids didn't get on with it or was it more just as a family didn't like it? No, it was it was it was when we moved we moved we moved in Bow and then we moved out to Lewis and I don't really know why we just really know why we just saw I just know were talking, my wife was always said, we could spend our whole life in London. It might be good to experience something else. And then you just don't realize what you've set in motion just by just amusing thought on with the wine on a sofa.

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And it wasn't a night, it was a bigger house than we had in, much bigger house than we had in London, but with a proper sized garden. I remember thin, I was thinking, I don't remember this being part of the plan, living in a massive but you know, thinking, oh, Christ, I don't want to, what have I done? And my wife said to me, you can't undermine something we've made, we've done. We've done this together, and we're going to see it through, and you'll just have to bite your lip. So I did. I bit my lip for a year, and then she came to me and she said I can't live here either. And what did you feel at that point Sean? I was just delighted. I think I

leapt up and hugged her and danced around the living room. And how old were the kids at that point? My eldest was about nine or ten. Oh so they hadn't started secondary schools so that but you had to change their primary schools and then move back again? Yeah so when my when we moved th th th th th that th th th th that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to feel th th th th to feel to feel th th to feel th to feel to feel the the thi to feel the th th th to feel th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to to the the to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the but you had to change their primary schools and then move back again. Yeah, so when we moved back in 2014, we were lucky we got into a primary school round where we live. And they are all really great for, none of them miss it. Oh good. But it's a nice, it's a lovely place and the people are really nice and no wrong with the place. It's, it's just's just wasn't right for us but I would always warn people I

say you know you think of this idyllic life there's only so many freaking walks you want to go on I'm genuinely gonna I cannot wait for Rose to listen to this episode because this is what she needs to hear oh she she wants to go she doesn't want to go but I think th the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th the th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to the to to the to the the the the the th th th th th th is thi th is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thoooooooooooooooo' the thoooooo' tho' tho' tho' the thi the the to go, does she? Where does she want to go? She doesn't want to go, but I think it's that kind of, you know, you're idealizing, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And the reality actually is that... It's really boring. It's fucking... If you want something that's dull, then move out. No, that's wrong because I'll be upsetting loads of people. When have you ever cared about upsetting people?

Yeah, I know, but you know, they're by tickets, don't they? Was it the people or was it just the amenities? Or was it, what was it that you? It's just dull, I mean, it's just boring. It's so nice and I tell you what it is, it's the winter. the winter awful, it's just dark, that's it. And it's the, you go about sort of four hours of daylight and it's then it shuts down. It's just a small place. I wanted to be in a city, I'm a city person. So there's nothing wrong with it. I found it for me, I missed all my mates, my family. Now I'm so glad I moved back. Yeah, and I think it's good though to admit, admit sometimes if you've made an error,

rather than just gritting your teeth. When talking about your friends, did you sit around as a family, you're one of your good friends is Bill Bailey? Did you sit around as a family and watch strictly this winter? Yes, yeah, it's great, isn't isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't th isn't th isn't thrown isn't thathea, isn't thathea, isn't that, isn't that, isn't thrown, isn't that, isn't th. th. thi, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't.. It's thr. It's thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thrown. thrown. thrown. toa? toa. thrown. thrown. thrown. throwne. throwne. thrown of the week really. Are you tempted yourself for next year, sure? No, no, I don't think so. I, Chief, phone me up and asked me about whether he should do it or not, and I said no, I don't mean you should do it. I don't know if he needed to make that phone call to get your response to that. No. Yeah, I said no, but they're very, but they're very very very very very very very very very very very very very very, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, he, the, he, th. Ch. Ch Ch Chene, she, phone, phone, phone, chained, cha, cha, cha, cha, cha, cha, chained, chained, chained, she, she, chained, she, he, he, they didn't have to do as much this year because they were all sort

of isolating, keep it waving. But normally they're all sort of like standing around, hugging and yeah. Hugging and grinning and hugging and it's been, and everyone's so freaking up beat on the show. So Bill handled it really well. Bill was a very good dancer. But you're a good dancer. I saw th. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I they they they they they they they they they they're all all all all all all so they're all so they're all all all so they're all all all so they're all all so they're all all all all so, they're all all all so, they're all all all so, they're all all so, they're all all all so, they're all all all all so, they're all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all, Bill. they're all all all all all, Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill th. Bill th. th. th. they're th. they're they're so, they're all so, they're all so, they're all they're all they're all all But you're a good dancer though. I saw you in that Prince concert. You like dancing. I love dancing. I think you could do well at it. I think I think yeah I probably could learn the dances.

I would like to learn to dance but then I think but if you want to learn and go and get a dancing lesson. You know, have to put yourself through the humiliation of a TV show. But Bill asked me and I said, no, I said to him, look, I said also, well, I said, what about the curse of strictly? And he said, yeah, well, I've looked into that. I found out, he said, most of the people weren't very happy in their relationships. And I said, well of course they said that. I said they're not going to say I was really happy in relationship, but look at, look at what I've just pulled. I just, you know, I couldn't help myself,

but I was really happy. And of course they're unhappy. I said, they're bad to that. I said, and also, at, at, the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of. Well, of, of the the the the the the the the the the the the their, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course they're unhappy. I said, they're bad to that. I said, and also, at the start of Strictly, they were probably very happy in their relationship, but week in week out, a dancer rubbing themselves up and down your tie for eight hours a day, up and down, up and down. And after what you go, actually, I really like this. This makes me really happy.

I said, I don't think I was very happy at home. Because my life has been just rubbed up and down against me. So I said, I don't think that's the reason. But he's very upright, standing citizen. If you've got any more questions, Josh, or should I do my final question, Rob? I'm interested on Sean's response to it. Well this is an opportunity Sean for if there's something that frustrates you away about the way your partner parents but you can't really say it to her

face without a rowing she and but if she did listen back to this she go oh that is a fair point and I might change that there something that your wife does parenting wise that you don't agree with? Oh God, no not really she's kind of like got it pretty nailed down really she's pretty good at it. I mean I think I think she probably doesn't recognize her errors as readily as I do so when she fucked up because she obviously will inevitably screw up at some point yeah say the wrong thing I don't think she's very good at sort of going yeah yeah yeah yeah that was that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the's kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind th th th th th th th th th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th th th th th th th the the the the th the the the th the the the the the the the the the the the at some point yeah say the wrong thing I don't think she's very good at sort of going yeah yeah yeah and that was a bit of but she has to be this kind of rock at the center of the thing so maybe that's that's the reason she you know once you start

picking away at the rock you know what you're left with yeah what would you say what would she say about you do the most she just came in the room the the room the room the room the room the room the room the room in in in in in the room in the room in the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. I I th. I was just th. th. I was just th. I was just th. I was th. th. I th. I was. I was. I was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I I I was. I I was. I I I I was. I was. I I I was. th. th. I I I I I was. I was. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I was. I th. I was. I was. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would she say about you do you think that frustrates her most? She just came in the room right behind. No joking, lad. She just took, there's a print in me, and as I was talking about her, she just crept in and crept out. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. Thanks to... Oh dear. That's my afternoon.

I was hoping to have non-stop sex all afternoon and that's you doing it. No. Thanks, Shil. That's been amazing. Thanks, that's perfect. Thanks, Sean. Nice to speak you, fellas. Thank you so much. Cheers, Sean Locke there, Josh. That was, I was a bit scared of doing that one, because I love Sean. Bye. Sean Lock there, Josh? That was, I was a bit scared of doing that one, because I love Sean, but he's quite a scary man. I'd say he is my, I'd say he's up there with my favorite comics in the world.

Oh yeah. But he's also, uh, because he is the Roy Keane of Comedy. Yes. Yeah, you like him, he's a pallid, but he can get a bit nervous. Let's be honest, we were all surprised when he said yes to doing it. Yeah, exactly. I thought the response to me. Do you fucking podcast? Fuck off. Yeah, I bet. That's what I was expecting or no reply. He's probably a bit bored in Lock to be fair. It sounds like him and his eldest daughter are too. He's basically bred another Sean Locke that's younger and got more energy than him to argue.

But you know what, I think that's a really good, like, to spot your faults and be self-analytical as a parent. I think it's a really big thing to do. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. I thought it was I was I was I was it was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was interesting. It was interesting. It was interesting. It was interesting. It was interesting. It was interesting. It was a that it was a that it was a that it was, it was, it was, it was, it was a that it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was that it was that it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was interesting. It was, it was interesting. It was interesting. It was, it was interesting. It was, it was interesting. It was interesting. It was interesting. It was interesting. It was interesting. It was got, it was got, it was quite interesting. It was quite interesting. It was quite interesting. It was quite interesting. It was quite interesting. It was quite interesting. It was quite interesting, it was quite interesting, it was quite interesting, it was quite interesting, it was quite interesting, it was quite interesting, it was quite interesting, it was quite interesting, it was quite interesting, it's got, it's got, it's got, it's got, it was quite interesting his approach but yeah like it's hard though I must be terrible for people with teenagers because that is the age 17 that you know to go out and do things and get a job and meet people and all that and it must be frustrating watching your kids not be able to do that and then getting frustrated and argument with you just because they would normally be out the house at this point. Exactly think you know in a weird way we are very lucky at the stage in our lives we're at for this lockdown. Having kids our age where

then where we're not under pressure really to be getting them ready for GSEA not not really, not under pressure at to be getting ready for GSC and they don't really they're not worrying about it or any of that. I think if you're looking at top Trumps and like the best age in to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. I. I. I their. I their their their their their their their their their their thi. their their. thi. their. their. their. their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I's their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I. I. I. their. their. their. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. toda. toda. toda. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. their you're looking at Top Trumps and like the best age to have, if you're having kids in lockdown, I think it would be year five of primary school. Yeah. Where it's like nothing serious has happened. There's no big school coming. They're old enough to sort of navigate the laptop and un-mute themselves and do the lessons. But, um, not old enough. I thi. I their. I their. I the top. I the top. I the top. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi's thin. thi. thi. thi's thi's thi. thi. thi. thi. to be to be to be to be thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. Yeah. Yeah. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. thi. thi. thi. kids. The top trump is no kids. What I would say though it's top trump's no kids but if you're not working or whatever or you're on being

made redundant on furlough the days are long. Yeah yeah yeah Rob must be awful having really long days with your hobbies to do that must be fucking terrible. Yeah I think long days stretching into oh maybe I'll cook maybe to decide between exercise or a shower that was my the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thus thus thus to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. try. to. to. to. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. to to to to do, oh, your honor, to decide between exercise or a shower. That was my option. I know, and I've actually got my eldest with you now because Lou's had to go to the, do you want to come and say hello on the podcast? Come in, come and say hello.

Hello. Look, come on, sit up here, let me just say hello. And you can say hello. Why don't you say thanks for listening? And you can finish, say hello. Hello. Here you can say hello to Josh. How are you? And if you say thank you for listening. Thank you.

For listening. No? No, you've gone shy? Yeah. All right, I'll be out in a minute. to go now, Josh. I'll have to go now, I don't feel it, I think it'll be unprofessional for me to say, we need to talk about Sean Locke for 10 more minutes for your child, when you're looking at your child.

Thank you everyone for listening. See you, see you on Tuesday. Right, bye. Cheers, bye.