Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S02 EP13: Joe Swash

Episode Date: March 5, 2021

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL' S02 EP13: Joe SwashJoining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) during the lockdown and beyond is the brilliant actor and presenter, Joe Swash. Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks. xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @lockdownparent INSTAGRAM: @lockdown_parentingA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills. Each episode will be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you the listener with your tales of lockdown parenting woe because let's be honest none of us know what we're doing hello and you are listening to lockdown parent in hell with yeah say Rob beckett yeah back, Josh, would they come? Just like it in. There you go, now.

You might have picked up on an accent. Yeah, well, that's, was that Basilden? That is an Icelandic toddler doing our intro. An Icelandic toddler? Oh, it's sounding French. So, the mum is called Victoria and the daughter is too. She is called Julia. She's recently started saying, Oh my God, quite dramatically.

Which is funny given we speak Icelandic at home. I've really enjoyed the podcast. It's helped hearing how other parents are doing during this time, though I know we may have it a bit better in Iceland. Preschool is open, which helps since being pregnant and tired a lot with a toddler. So that is Victoria and Julia Blaiaia. Victoria's surname, Rob, I'd like you to have a guess from her email address from what I can tell. So Victoria VIK-T-O-R-I-A, her surname is spelled. H-R-O-B-J-A T T I R. So I know what the end is that's like daughter in Icelandic because Scandinavian Icelandic names have the

they have son at the end or Dietta or something like that in the end. So that's like the daughter of whatever the Rob Jarts deater. Yeah, so that'll be her surname is her dad's full name with Dieter at the end I think. Oh, there we go. That's how I can't, yeah, it's so mental, which is different to what I'm used to. Yeah, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, that's culture, learning. Welcome welcome from Iceland Victoria and Julia. Yes I love Iceland. Have you been? Yes it's incredible. I went to Rekovic for like a few days and we went to the thermal baths like lagoon thing which was amazing. The best part of the whole trip was behind us on these sunbed things were like it was indoors because it was a winter so

it was like warm indoors and the water was warm but these this couple are having an argument you know you can it stunk of the end of the relationship they're about 25 so it was like you know that relationship you have in your mid-twenties which is going nowhere it's a bit of fun but you both know and they were they were arguing so much and we just laid there for 40 minutes listening to and bicker and she was like I'm not thing that's been on your phone and all that it was like a live version of Taui the Reykjavik special right yeah I love I love I said it's great it's really really cool country I'd love to go do you see the northern lights yes I don't know if we had if I didn't see him on a great day but it's not really worth it the northern nights it's just the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th I th I th I th is th is th is th is th is th is not th is not th. th. th. th. th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's the. I's the. I'm the. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the the the. the the It's just a bit of green cloud and it's not as good

as the Google search because your eyes aren't as good as cameras. Of course, of course. The old cameras, the lens and a camera is better than the lens of your eye. So if you Google the Northern Lights you are only going to be disappointed because it can never be as good. And the church, we walked up to the church, the main church, which is incredible in a snowstorm and it's the only time I thought about being religious because I was so cold and sad and it was so warm and powerful and I was like oh take me lord and then I was like I said a load of bollocks in it it's quite a carry-on style approach to religion. Oh take me lord. There he is everywhere watching me stop it.

Get out of here I know your omnipresent. Give a girl a break. So yes yes Josh presents that that's what it's here for? So George so I just fill in that I found a bag of presents that my wife hasn't sent to her cousin since Christmas 2018. Yes and she's she's maintaining she's going to send them and you've challenged her that every week she doesn't send him you'll open another present. Yeah so I got a text from a cousin her cousin David who said he was looking for so should I open his present first? I think David he's the one who's got involved how old Rob so it's got a ribbon on it and she'd done that curling. he he he he. She th so th so th. She was th. She was th. She was th. She was th. She was th. She was th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's Rob so it's got a ribbon on it and she's done that curling thing on the ribbon.

Oh she really cares until it comes to actually send it to the people. So it actually comes to sending them. David is probably three or four years my senior I'd say so he's probably 40. What does David like? What's his kind of vibe? He's into football. He's a Nottingham Forest fan and he's into cricket. He has got a stereotypical 40-year-old bloke from Nottingham, you'd say, quite a normal guy. He's got a mini karaoke microphone, Rob. Oh, what's that in tale? I mean, that is not a present anyone wants, is it? Not a 40-year-old man from Nottingham. A mini karaoke microphone. So how does that work?

Do you want to send your photo? Yeah, because surely. Because I'm not going to lie to you. However small you think it is, it really is mini. So but where are the words? It's still a karaoke unless there's words. Use smartphone laptop or desktop. the app. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. thoom. thoomomomom. thi. thi. that's. that's. that's. that's. thoomomomomomomomorrow. thoomomomom. thoom. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to. that's. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toa. to. toa. toa. to. to. to. to. that's Download the app. Oh, and then, so you download the app, I imagine you're connected to Plutive and then you read it off your phone. That's half a present. He's got a bifo, that is mini.

That is timing. Also, it's so old, it's obviously got an audio input that you'd put into a phone that has the classic headphone jack. Of course. But now, in 2018 2018, in,, that was fine, but in 2021. Technology has moved on since the present was wrapped. It's so small. It's tiny. Yes, I imagine you'd plug it into your phone, but you can't. By the way, Rose has no idea on any of these presents anymore. She was like, I've got no idea what's in there.

That's how long ago it is. Oh my God, so it's so... Sing, record and share. Send recordings to friends. No one has ever done that. Yeah, only if you've got a phone from the Midnalties. Because the headphone jack's gone now nearly, isn't it? And it's all, yeah. It's all Bluetooth these days. So it's actually, it's been in your basement so long

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to interview someone in the street. Look at this, I'm going to take a photo with it. How small is it? You hold it, you got it out, oh my god, the last pictures you sent me is that Bloke's ball sack. It's like someone crying for help our WhatsApp exchanges. By the way, if you haven't listened to the last episode, that sounds worse than it is. Yeah, well, the last I love. It's the last. It's the last. It's the last. It's the last. It's the last. It's the last. It's the last. It's the last. It's the last. It's the last. It's the last. It's the last. It's the last. It's the last. the last you's the last you's the last picture you's you's the last. the last. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. the the the the the the last. the last. the last. the last. the last. the last. the last. the the the last. the the last. the the the last. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. You th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the last picture. you. you. you. you. You time I look at it, it's got smaller. I like you know new glasses though, Josh.

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How have you been though? Josh, good week? Yeah, all right, yeah. I'm just trying to think whether there's been any real developments. World Book Day? Well, the book tapapapapapapap up, but at the time of broadcast it was yesterday. Oh yes, okay. But I suppose your children are at home, so World Book Day doesn't really make any differently.

They're not going to dress up as anything. No, if they might dress up, but not properly. Normally it's a big day at school isn't it World Book Day. Yeah, where it's your plan? What did you do yesterday? Well, we are. She's doing Paddington for the second year in a row. Oh, come on, Nate. She's got to push it, push the boundaries. You don't want to show off. You've got to put effort in. Well, yeah, but it's difficult. It's difficult, isn't it, it's difficult. It's like o'cettis, isn't it, isn't it? It's like the the the the the the the th. You. You. You. You. You. You's like, you. You's like, you. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. the. to. the. to. to. the. to. the. to. to. to. the. the. to. the. to give people what they want as well as change it up, you know what I mean? Play the hits. These are the problems. What about Paddington, could you do Paddington too and give her some props like hair clippers? Yeah, yeah. I was trying to work out what you meant. Because he cuts the hair bad, didn't he, in the rebuy the outfit, but see how it goes. Yeah, I

don't know what, I imagine Lou sorted something out to be honest. Lou is a much more in charge of the academia than I am. Would they make you do World Book Day on a Zoom? No, not properly. But I think they've said if you want to dress up, I to dress, to dress, to dress, to dress, to dress, to dress, to dress, to dress, to dress, to dress, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoooooooooooooom, too, too, too, too, 't think they're saying fancy dress, I think they're saying like one thing from a book because it does put pressure on people that can't really fall to or I haven't got the access to all the stuff or whatever. I think it's like Harry Potter have a wand or a broomstick, stuff like that. I think that's what they're doing. But yes, we were playing a game where you get pictures of stuff and it's like a lion. tell you have to and it's highlighted the letter so you and then you put the line on a l or an L right anyway so I one of them and it was a picture of like a skeleton frame like just a chest of a skeleton so I was picking all out and I was like bu for boat and then I went skur for skeleton it, it's fucking x-ray, and skur isn't even a sleetter. Are you still struggling with phonics, then Rob?

Yeah, to be honest, I'm sort of letting Lou do the teaching to read stuff. Yeah. I'll read with her, obviously, I read to her, but not as much as Lou does, and I'm not very good at it. And I don't want to make my mistake, so'm dista I think I'm dyslexic I've not had a proper test but I was told at school so I'm a bit worried I don't one I'm not confident in doing it and two I'm very aware of. I don't want to give her bad habits. Yeah so and lose much better at doing it properly. Obviously she was a teach she was a teacher. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better. She's better better better better better better better. She's better. She's better. She's better. to. I'm not not to. I'm not a to. I'm not a to. I'm not a their. I'm not a their. I'm not a proper. I'm not a their. I'm not a proper. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I's not a proper. I's not a proper. I's not. I's not. I's not. I'm not a the the the the the the t. I'm not not not t. I'm not t. I'm not not t. I'm not not t. I'm not not tod. I'm not not not not the the the the the the the the the. I'm not a proper. me. But yeah, so I've not really done that much. You don't want that thinking sco for skeleton, do you? Exactly.

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Do you want some emails? Yes, let's do it. It's the lockdown parenting mail bag. But it's actually emails and there's no bag. Okay, should I give you three titles? Yeah. Wealibingatetry four weekly collections. I've been listening to a brilliant podcast since becoming a mom with a birth of our son, Jack. This is from Rachel. It had me laughing out loud in the middle of the night whilst feeding with headphones and on many a countryside walk carrying the little one whilst he napped. This was the only way I could get any nap time for the first few months. We had to the neighbors. We had th, we had th, we had th, we had th, we had th, we had th, we had th. th. th. tho, we had tho, we had tho, we had that, we had tho, we had the, the, tho, the, the, tho, the, their the, the, the, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thean, thean, thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. theaneded. to do that around parks. I'm pretty sure the neighbours thought I'd gone mad laughing away to myself walking down

the lanes but as a new mom I just didn't care. I'd always felt sorry for you parents in cities without access to a lot of free space in lockdown. In North Wales we're lucky with mountains and the beaches close but thus making multiple lockdowns that much more bearable. My sympathies to your plight wane significantly after listening to Series 2 episode 8, Wheely Bingate, when I learned that you had weekly black bin collections. Now and in places that have fortnightly collections that not only they distributed larger bins,

but allowed Rob to have an extra seasonal bin. No, I bought that bid. Don't get it twisted, but yeah, we do get as a fortnightly one where you switch and swap. Wow, I'd like you all to take a moment to share the total inconvenience of despair that we have monthly bin collections. Monthly, to be fair, North Wales is an absolute asshole to get to. Yeah, but it's not the same people as our bins, Rob. I doubt the bin-man starting in South East London. That's right. If you miss that Thursday once, once once once once once once once once once once once once once once once once once that Thursday, once that Thursday, once that Thursday, once that Thursday, once that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that's th. that's that's that that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that, that's. that's. that that that's. that that's. that's that that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the thi. the the thi. the the the thi. the the. the the the theea. the the the thea. toea. toea. to to toea. to to thea. thea. the. th another month. A month! Where did you put it all? A month of stamping into the rotting refuge of the previous month to compact the very small black bin bag. This happened

to us on one occasion we thought we'd give it a lovely Conway Councilor called to see if they could help. They kindly informed us so we could take the rubbish out of the bin and load it into our car and deliver it personally to the local tip. What? What the the the to deliver to deliver to deliver the to deliver the to deliver to deliver to deliver the to deliver to deliver to deliver the to deliver the to deliver to deliver the to deliver the the the the to deliver to deliver to deliver to deliver to deliver to deliver to deliver to deliver to to deliver the the to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their the the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. the thea. thea. their the the their their their their their their their their theto the local tip. What? Oh my God, what a day that is. What do you imagine if you missed it? Taking your bin stuff out of the bin to put into your car. Imagine missing the collection day if it's once a month. Oh my God. Two months of recycling. I'd have to get a skip.

Yeah, the amount of cardboard stick it all in a black bin but then you black bins monthly as well or off yeah but at least it's in a proper black bin rather than just like a rotten corpse of carball just getting wet and maggots in it oh is that food bins once a month as well well let me carry on they kind inform us we could take the rubbish carefully emptying any bags to ensure items their tip. They advised us they the the the the the the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their. their. their. their the their their. their. their. their. their is. their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tip. tod toda. today is today is. today is. today is. today is. today is. today is. today is. today is. today is. today is. today is tip skips. They advised us they had a tap on site to wash up afterwards. Needless to say, we did not take them up on their kind off and continued our weekly bin trumpeting routine for the next month. So they didn't go to the tip in the end. Would you have gone to the tip?

I'd move house. I went, I can't do that. It's no way to live. It's basically just like you just live next to rubbish. How do you remember as well? Do you know like every Wednesday, Tuesday evening I think, oh Jesus I've got to do the cardboard. Yeah. Well, because also what happens at Christmas? Because normally it's over a few days late or they go, right, we're not bothering, we'll see you next the the vibe. North Wales is quite remote though. Yeah, they might have land where their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. to. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. to. to. t. t. t. t. t. together. together. together. together. We. together. together. We. together. We. together. together. t. t. t. it's because it's so remote. They might have land where they can just be, you know, like, when you live in a proper in the countryside, you sort of have just like a building full of shit, isn't that what happens in the country? Yeah, and a yard, there's like a yard with like bits in it.

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We looked up and down the road searching for it and then ran our local council and they told us that sadly the wheelie bin had fallen into the lorry. Sneaky bastards, surely that there's got to be an instant fess up? Yeah, you'd have to tell someone. They've been to bin. They've been a bin. I've always wondered how you throw away a bin. You can't put a bin in the bin, can you? But you can't. You just have to find a bigger bin for the bin.

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We're going to have a the chat a chat a chat a chat a chat a chat a chat a chat a chat a chat a chat to have a chat a chat the difference between bribery wages and gifts. Fingers crossed. Love the podcast. That is from Debtor and Teddy. Oh wow, bribery wages and gifts. Yeah, because I suppose you could put it as a wage, but it's not. It is bribery, Rob. Um, no, it's, well, what is bribery? If you say like, oh, Josh,ing you to do that gig or is that just... No I tell you what they're doing mate. They're underpaying me.

No but you know what I mean? What is what is that? Yeah well exactly. Yeah where does bribery stop and wages begin? Because you could you could argue bribery someone, bribery is something they don't want to do a gig? Do you thou? I think yeah. It's mainly. their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're they're they're they're try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I tole. I tole. I'll tole. I'll to. I'll try. I'll try. I'll try a gig. Do you know what I mean? I think yeah it's mainly the second with me Rob. Yeah, maybe so you're being bribed. But anyway, but keep going the pom-pom jar. I find it ebbs and flows, but I think at eight you may have to get rid of the pom-m-m it's what the pom-pom represents, isn't it? And what he gets at the end of it, but what I'd say is it needs to go from pom-pom. It's almost like cryptocurrency now.

Pompom is the bitcoin of the youth. Do you think we should be investing in pom-poms? No, what I think is they're going to want brick-o. It's difficult Rob with this whole pocket money thing because we basically, I never have any cash. Yeah, you can't just like contactless and give them two quid. Yeah, set up a PayPal. Or buy them the little machine, you know like Buskazzav? Each Saturday morning. Bibib. There you go, buy some sweets. Go take your switch electron down to the new shop, these ages.

Right, who's the guest Josh this week? Who we got? This was a brilliant interview. Yes. I absolutely loved this. One of my favorite people of all time. Yeah. There's a lot of name problems going on throughout it, which I kept on calling him Josh, didn't I? Yeah. Because I was called Josh and he did his Josh and Joe Swash. Yeah, Joe Swash, it got confusing and Joe, yeah, but Joe Swash is brilliant. He's, um, he's engaged to Stacey

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So it's a very hands-on dad episode. Enjoy. Hello Joe Swash thank you for joining us. Hello mate thank you for asking me. You have been high up on our list as any judge as a very much so. Oh mate I bet you say that to everyone. No, honestly I've wanted to start 80 to 90% of people there's a few people there's a few people that we've interviewed that I didn't want to before, after and during, but it's part of life, isn't it? You've been massively requested as well, you know, nation's sweetheart, but also as well. Oh, recently engaged, would you say congratulations? Thank you very much, mate. Yeah, yes.

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And so, explain your setup of children, Josh, because you're a blended family. Josh, sorry, Joe. Joe, can you explain to the listeners your set up at home with her kids? So the setup at home is, Stacy's got two boys from previous relationships. She's got Leighton and Zach's 12 and Layton's 8 and then I've got an oldest an eldest child little boy Harry from another relationship. He's 13. Yep. In Stacey we've got little Rex. It was nearly two. Oh lovely. And do you know Joe was so nice as well, it's sort of like, there's a lot of kids there,

but you all, yeah, I know because we're friends as well, Joe, but like how well you will get on and stuff and it's such that and it works so on. I think that's why a lot of people are interested in a sort of, is it a blended family? Is it a blended family? Is, that? Is, that? Is, that? Is, that? Is, that? Is, that? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is it? Is it, is? Is it, is? Is, is? Is it, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is, is a? Is it? Is it? Is, is? Is, is? Is it? Is it? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is? Is, is, a? Is, a? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is,. It's like some sort of smoothie, I'll have one of the blended family, please. I know, because like, growing up, like, my dad had, I've got two half brothers, so my dad was married before, and there was five of us. Yeah, I was growing up, everyone just called it like, like a broken home,

it didn't feel broken home. It just felt like there was fucking loads of kids everywhere. So how how it, how it, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi, that, thi, thi, thi, it was thi, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I was, I was, I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was thi, I was like, I was like, I was thi, I was like, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that that, I was, I was like,there was fucking loads of kids everywhere. That's what it felt like. So how's it going then? Having an eldest with Harry and then the Rex, that big gap, how's that been? It's been brilliant. You know what? Because first of all, we kill each other. We're a blended family that kill each other. So like one minute we're at each other's throats, next minute we love each other. So there's, we're just like a normal, any normal family, we have our ups and downs.

But with my Harry, he's 13 there, so he's into other stuff, Rob. So I'll take him out with my mate, you know, Greg, Nick the Greek and Greg. I'll play Calla to Duke the Greek. That's it, yeah, so I'll take him out. What has happened to this podcast? Yeah, no. You can tell who books Philipper Perry and who books Joe Swash for TV and Josh. Yeah, and they're both with the different things, Beckett. So I like to go fishing with my little boy with Harry and go camping and take him away for the weekends. And with little Rex, he's hilarious. Honestly, he's into everything. He's at the age now where he's picking up words.

So they're chalk and cheese, they're both at different scales, but I love it. Yeah, and how is your parenting change? Obviously, you don't know, in 30 years, you've changed massively. Because you're, you know, when you were young, when it was on East Enders, you're one of the best dads I've ever met you love your boys more than anything. You've always put them first. There's been like an Allison Hammond as well in a way where she always her kids came way before

her career and I think he was massively like that. So how do you think how has it been different for you at different stage of your life with Harry with with with with with the different theirell you that I'm the most responsible parent out there because I'm not, I'm not like, I'll go into the forest and we'll see a swing. And I'm like, oh I'll let Harry go first in case the swing breaks. So like, I'm always into stuff like with Harry, like we're playing practical jokes. So we get on like we're pals, but I mean that as well. I. I. I. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, like, I'm not like, like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to like, to like, to like, to like, to to to to to to to to like, like, like, like, like, like, like we're playing practical jokes. So we get on like we're like we're pals, but I mean that as well. So I'm trying to keep it as like art as possible. And same with Rex, I just like to wrestle them.

Like when they're the age, I just want to wrestle. So I'll chuck him around and give him a wrestle. So yeah, I mean, I just, I think I'm quite hand-on parents, but I'm really affectionate, so I love my boys, so I kiss him, a stupid man. I'm always kissing him, I'm always cuddling them, like my Harry's 13. I still make sure I get in bed and have a little cuddle with him and go stupid with you. But I love, is he starting to push away from that now though? He's been pushing away for ages. But it's my kids like, so I just want to, I always say if I, if something happened and I weren't here no more, I want them to know

that I have, I kissed them the most than any other person in the world. I've kissed Rex more than stacie, more than anybody. I just, yeah, I love it. I love my kids. That's one of the sweetest but also one of the bleakest ways of looking at parenting. I want to get my kisses in now because I could die tomorrow. I know, it's really sad. But in my head, right? Because I lost my dad when I was 12, I have this weird morbid way of thinking. So I'm always like, if I'm not here tomorrow, I want my kids to know that they were loved by me more than anybody else on the planet. No, because I've got such great memories of my dad, because my dad was the same. He loved the wrestle, we went football together, but he was so affectionate. And then I just, if anything ever happened, I just want them to know that I love them more than anybody in the world.

I think they know that Joe. And how do you deal with like the discipline of it though? If they are being a bit naughty, I know you love them to Peter's, but if they've got to be told off, they're told off. Out, because I can't imagine you shifting from the wrestle, to, to, their, to, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, tho, tho, tho, the, the, the, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, and, tho, and, tho, and, tho, and, thooooooooooooooooooo, and, to, to, to, to, tho, tho, th't discipline them like their kids, like I'll have a go at him like I'm having to go Nick the Grinch. And what are you doing? Use your dream, don't you think, come on? I'm like, he's two years old.

Yeah. I have a go at them like their adults. That very rarely happens. When you drop Harry at school, are you, do you embarrass him by kissing him when the the the the the the the the the the the the their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like the their, like that, that very rarely happens. When you drop Harry at school, are you, do you embarrass him by kissing him when you drop him at school or that kind of stuff? Because when I was 13, if my dad was in public kissing me, I'd have been shriveling away, do you know what I mean? I love it. I'll go out of my way, and especially with Stacey's as well, so I'll do it with all of them. I'll take them them them them their their their their their their th. I'll take their their th. I'll take th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll do th. I'll do th. I'll do th. I'll do thathe th. I'll do thathea thathea' thatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheathe at th. I'm when th. th. th. th. I'm when th. I'm when th. I'm when th. I'm th. I's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm thea. I'm theat thea. theat theat theat theat theat thia. thea. the gate, I'll open the window and I'll bib a couple of times, everyone looks around and I go, I love you how, I love you, my darling! And I'll go out of my way. If anything, like, I'm shameless because I should be embarrassed of the way that I am with other parents, but I'm like, love you son, Browam, to him today. Love you son, boughed, th. th. th. th. to, th. th. to, th. th. to, th. th. th. to, th. to, to, the the the th. to, th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I love, I love, I love, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I love, I love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love you, love, love you, love you, love, love, love, love you, love, love, love, love you, love, love, love, love you, love, love, love to love, love you, love, love, he sticks out. So now Stacey's eldest, that he won't let me pick

him up or drop him off at school. Oh, it's a great way to get out of the school run though. Yeah, it really is. But no, I love, I love embarrassing them. But secretly, they love it. They love it, they love it when I embarrass them. Yeah,they don't need it shouting in front of the girl they fancy at school. I know no honestly I go out of my way to embarrass him. Yeah. Harry's at the age where he can take it quite well now. And how's how you know how are you getting on at school and stuff and that because you I know from the stories you school in London. My school was the only school in London to be banned from leaving the country or going on school outings.

Honestly, our school was terrible. But once we had a pond, I jumped in the pond because I thought they would send me home. They didn't. They didn't send me home. Also as well, didn't you once pretend, well, pretend that you were becoming a Muslim in order to get Fridays off school? Yeah, well, because this is it Beckett, because in my school it was very mortal racial. So there was probably only like two white boys in my class and it was very heavily Muslim,

but all my friends were Muslim, so like I loved, I got involved, I wanted to know what they were doing. And I worked out every Friday, they were leaving at half, half one, half 12, having half day school to go and half a prayer. And I was like, I opened up a minute, I'm coming with you. But I didn't realize it was the mosque down at Feinsbury Park. So it was at no hook hand Hamza. And the Hamza. It was Abu Hamza.

It was like the preacher at the mosque. So I went down there. I went down there like with good intentions to sort of get out of school. I wanted to learn a little bit. I was always quite inquisitive and wanted to know things and I went in like I took my shoes off I had to wash my feet and stuff and then I walked in front of someone and it all went off and I was like ah and then the geese up the hook hook the hand I shot me out and the fucking nose and you know what I think I told you the other day I was so disappointed because he didn't even use the hook. He used this good hand. Come on, mate.

What's the point of it? Give me an anecdote. So how have you been, have you been helping with the homeschooling? No, no. Honestly, come on, mate. I'm more of a hindrance than a help. So what's been happening with the home schooling? So it's brilliant now because they do it on on the on on on don't even see him. So that will go off, they go off

to the bedrooms on the computer, there were a few zoom calls and they come back a little bit cleverer. Fair enough. Okay, with that, but are they quite kind of into school? Do they enjoy the kind of lessons and all that? Listen, my kids, our kids can't believe their luck. They can't believe that they get to stay at home all this time. The Zoom lessons are fine. You can't even call it. I have to pay for my Harry's school, yeah. And I'm still paying for his school and he's in bed doing like two hours of day zoom lessons

and I'm paying that school exactly the same sort of money as when he was doing forest classes and freaking all of that science shit. And why am I paying the same money? But no, my kids can't believe it. They can't believe it. They get up at 10 o'clock, they do a little bit of zoom and then they're back on the computer. Perfect.

Oh, yes, it seems it's so not. And how's it going to go move on? Rex, is he going to nursery at any point or you're keeping him off to school? What's the plan? Well, he's their... I. I's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, their.. I's, their. I's, is, their. their, is, is, is, their, their. their. Oh, to. Oh, their. It's. It's their. to. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's to. It's to. It's to. It's to. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. It's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. It's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to th th th th to th's around me and around his brothers. So he's really, he just likes to fight. He fights, he hits. So like we're trying to tell him not to hit no more. Like, he bites. So we're like, oh my God. Well, if we do, if we do send him nursery, yeah, you're in trouble, theyr-in-tribe. Well, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi, he's th. He's, he's thi, he's thi, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's thi. He's, he's thi. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's just just, he's th. He's just, he's th. He's th. He's th. He's thr-I's th. He's th. He's th. He's they hit you and they get the um with you, it's sort of quite funny, but then it's like a three week period when it shifts to just horrendous kid, like, and it's not the cute baby. Yeah, so we've had to stop laughing it now because he thinks it's the thing to do so. Um, yeah, he could do with being around some young kids at to ride the waiver. Grind it out. And how do you split the sort of parenting with Rex then?

Like obviously the older kids are a bit more self-sufficient, but like, did Stacey do more of it or is it quite 50-50? Because you're pretty hands-on with him and you like taking them out on your own and stuff? Yeah, yeah, we're definitely 50 the other ones working and vice versa. But I like to be like getting I'm really hands on I like to get in a bath with him. I love to do the nappies and getting him changed. I'm the one of you I'm the one he comes to when he wants to go asleep.

So like I'll put him to sleep so yeah we're definitely 50 50 50 when it comes to it. What do you find the hardest? Obviously, I know you love doing it, but it's a bit like the middle of the night feeds or early mornings. What do you struggle with? We struggled in the beginning, Beckett. It was so difficult because he was up three times a night. To me and Stacey were killing their. And she's got such better will power the baby. So I'd lay there and Stacy would lay there and I knew that Stacey was a wage. Yeah. Her willpower was always stronger than mine so I'll have to get up see if the baby's alright. So the three times a night was really

difficult not sleeping but we got lucky. He sleeps now. He goes a bed about eight nine o'clock and he sleeps through to daytime from about one o'clock to about three o'clock. Oh nice. Mate, I ain't done this much sleeping in ages. Because now I'm in lockdown, I just follow the baby's pattern. So baby goes bed, I go to bed. When you're lacking sleep, I can't imagine you not being chirpy. Do you know what I mean? Oh he's got a bit of a temper on

him sometimes Josh. He can go he's all happy like this but when he's head goes he goes. Yeah I can get a bit of spiky Josh. I am generally generally a really nice person. I really am. But when I'm tired like and people sort of have a go at me or I've done something wrong. Yeah. I won't meet to it I will fight it to the end the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tie tie tie. I te. I te. I te. I'm really te. I'm really really really really really really. I'm really really. I'm really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tie. I really. I really. I really. I really. I really. I'm really. I'm really. I'm really. I'm really. tie. tie. I really. tie. I really. tie. I really. I really. I really. I really. I really. the. I've done something wrong, I won't admit to it. I will fight it to the ends of it. So like me and Stacey would kid each other. 90% of the time I was completely in the wrong, but because I was tired, like, thankfully, I've done nothing on TV where like I've had to lose sleep because if I did, like my nice guy persona would be gone straight away. I can be a right nasty bastard. Yeah.

Now he says that to me when don't ever do the jungle because after a few days of not eating and sleeping you'd be horrific and everyone would be like, oh he's like that is it? I mean that's a working class London thing because even Tom Allen's like the most polite man ever but if you piss him off or you're out of order to be he will turn on you but you. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I that that I that I that I that that I that I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's that's not that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's not that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's not that's not that's not not that's not not not not that's not not that's not they. I they. I that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not I that's not I that's that's not that's like that. Tom Allen's like the most polite man ever, but if you piss him off or you're out of order to him, he will turn on you, but you sound unexpected from Tom. Yeah, because I think he's a London thing. I think we let it go, so I let a lot of things ride. So like, if someone will do something to me three or four times,

and I'll let them get away with away away away away away away awaytrying to mug me off. Yeah. I get really offended. Yeah, that's when I get, that's when I get the arm. Being mugged off basically is how every sort of Londoner operates of how much they are or not getting mugged off. Yeah. Give me, what do you, what do you mean by mugged off, back? Yeah. Mugge off is just someone's like, a, a, a, a, athem a present but it's in the post it's not come yet and you sort of go all right and whatever and then that it happens two or three times then you think they're mugging us off here don't lie to me I mean they're just not

anything too bad but just enough I like you know if someone don't give you a specific example that is definitely they they that is definitely that is definitely that is definitely that is definitely something something something something something something something something something something something something something something that is that is that is that is that is they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they that is that is that is that is that to you. Yeah, not to leave but I found it. But other things like, you know, if someone don't give you petrol money or they don't, in fact, they don't split a cab, you sort of, you let it go a little bit. I'm like, oh, okay, and then after two or three, like, they're dead to me. They could come up to me own in terms of discipline and stuff like that? Are you confident to kind of be the boss of them or do you feel that I like that's a different dynamic?

You know what, that's a really good question because it's something I've struggled with quite a long time. I'm not comfortable because I've got I've got I've got I've got got got got got I've got got got that I've got that I've got the that I've got that I've got that I've got that I've got that that that's that's that's that's that's that's got that's that's that's that's that's that's that's their that's that with quite a long time. I'm not comfortable because I've got my son Harry and his mom's in another relationship. I really wouldn't be comfortable with someone like screamed and shouting at my kid or made him feel frightened or vulnerable. That would be someone mugging me off to the maximum. I'm fucking...

Yeah. So I feel exactly the same with Stacey's boys. Like, I, Ito the maximum. I'm fucking... Yeah. So I feel exactly the same with Stacey's boys. Like I can tell them, you know, don't do that, pick that up and put that away. But when it comes to real discipline or when they've done something really bad, I don't feel like it's my place. Not that, needs to support and she's like, no, I need you to step up and I need you to be a little bit more, more forward, that I have a bit more forward to you with the kids.

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phone that's nothing to do with being punch you how have you gone through seven phones oh don't ask me honestly you know when you lose a phone you can keep the number you don't have to buy a whole yeah I know but I'm not I'm not good at downloading it onto my I cloud and all that so like but I always like no I think I think it's that when I lose a phone because I've the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their I their I their I their I their I their I their I their I'm I'm their I'm their I'm their I their I'm their I'm their I'm to to to to to to to to their I to their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I their I their I their I their I their I their I their I'm their I'm their I'm their their th I'm the. the. the. the. I'm not the. I'm not the. I'm not the. I'm not I'm not you know what I think it's that, when I lose a phone, because I haven't saved my numbers to my eye cloud, I feel like a snake shedding his skin. I'm like, I'm getting rid of all the deadwood and then all the real important people will phone me,

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when I want something I can make it sound amazing I was like oh my god do you imagine the trips we can go on it'll be like a memory wagon and oh mate I saw memory wagon what I'm I pulled all the strings so anyway we went half the van with me, yeah? Oh, and no, she hates it. We spent one night in it and she hates it. But I love it. I love it because... I think it's good for you and the boys to go out here, won't it?

Yeah. Listen, it's difficult in the moment because it's in the winter and we're in lockdown. But in the summer, I'm taking it fishing, I'm going to make fishing, the fishing, thakha, the fishing, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to fish, to to to fish, I to to thi, I'm fishing, I'm fishing, I'm thi, I'm thi, I thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'll thi, I'll thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I th. I th. I th. I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I to to to thi, I to thi, I to that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that, I, honestly, I'm going to make some great memories with the kids. How big is it, Charles? It's a Volkswagen, it's a transport, so it pops up at the top so you can sleep two at the top and then you can sleep two at the bottom. It's got like a fridge, got a cooker, it's got a microwave. It's blinded. Have you heard of hotels? You know what? You sound just like the the the the the the tha? tha? tha? tha? tha? tha? tha? tha? tha? tha? tha? tha? tha? thiiiole? tha? tha? thiole? thioleathea. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tooes. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the thoesananananananananananananananananan. tops.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. It's tooes. It's the reason why I'm the reason why I'm like a little bit because I'm questioning it myself. Don't tell her but I'm actually thinking it was a big investment we haven't used it. Do you want to use this as an advert for our listeners if any of them are in the market for a memory wagon?

We could sell it. I can't I can't because Stacy will do enough. Is it brand new? Will you lose money on it? It's brand new man. And I've got to get two years out of it without telling Stacey. I'm slightly, I'm waiting for the summer before I put my verdict the verdict and I decide whether it's a to to to to to be to be to be to be to to be to be the to be to be the to be to be the the to be to be the the the the to be the the the to be the to be to be the to be the the to be a to be a the to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to bea. I'm a to bea. I'm a to be a their. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'll the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tha. I's threathea. I's threathea. I'm threathea. taska. taska. taska. taska. taska. tasks. tasks. tasks.a. I the summer you can do loads of trips to the seaside and even if you don't like staying overnight but having it by the beach with facilities for tea and coffee and all that, it's a good. Listen, listen, if I'm a big fan of Stacey and your social leader. Joe! Not Josh. Remember when you first stand the jungle and I kept calling you Russell and you've got the fucking- Yeah, I did. For about a year, I was like, Russ, Russ, he's like,

yeah, you get to call him Russell on the show. And that was combining people on Twitter going that big too fast and off and Russell back. And then the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other to. the other. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. going, get that big to bastard off and Russell back. And then the other host's calling me Russell. Sorry, Joe. I love you and Stacey's stuff. Brilliant of all the tidying and all that. But is it a truthful representation of how tidy in your house is? Where you going now? Wait, there.

Hello. It's back. They're back. Wait there, wait there, wait there. Oh, hello, it's done back! Oh, they're back! Let me keep saying, hang it in. Right, let me finish this, wait there. Hello, let me get away from the kids. He's got out of stairs. God, it feels like challenge, Anika. The bathroom is always good.

I sit on the toilet. Wow. We're in the bathroom, the bathroom, the bathroom, the bathroom, the bathroom, the bathroom now. The soundman's having a heart attack. When you have got a busy house full of kids, that you sometimes, the toilet is your only place to survive. Especially when you've just asked me about Stacey, I can't give you an honest answer when she's around me. So, I had to get out.

So, what is the house as perfect as it looks on Instagram? Yeah, the house is generally the thol got three kids, so the house is always slightly messing. There's always a Lego brick or freaking, or you know what I find all the time? Her eyelashes everywhere. Mate, I'll go out sometimes and people picking them off my shoulders. They're everywhere. She pulls his eyelashes up and just puts them on the side. But generally, Stacy loves a bit of organizing. But, yeah, itacey loves a bit of organizing. But it's a little bit of a hindrance because sometimes you get a little bit,

I hyperventilated sometimes when I got to get a crisp back, a crisp draw. Because if I don't leave it exactly how it was, when she organized it, I'm in trouble. Really? How's the crisp draw organized Joe? I didn't know there was such a thing. Oh, honestly, Josh, she's got this bracket that goes across the cupboard and then almost like, imagine if you had a shower curtain but without the curtain. She's taken a curtain off and then there's these little clips and you clip the crisps on so you're hanging the crisps up. Like a washing line of, like a washing line of crisps. Yeah. But the thing is, like a washie line the the the the the the the wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash wash the the the the c. C c. C. Like, like, like, like a the the the the the the c. C. Like, like a the the the the the the cirt shi, like a the the cirt the cirt the cirt the cirt. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like a the c. Like, like a the c. Like, like a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the th. It thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirt. I thirty thirt. I thirt. I thirt. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thing is, I can't, I can't just pull the crisp off because it pulls the whole fucking thing off. So you've got to get your hand up, find a little clip, unclipped it, drop the crisp.

It's like getting it from a vending machine. But you have to replace the one you take? Yeah, of course I'm doing it. Yes. A hundred percent, thi. 100% mate. But it's nice, it looks lovely so it's nice, you know, and it's all nice, like, yeah, I mean, it looks lovely, but you spend you spend the rest of your life walking around on eggshells case you fuck it up. Yeah. And how, how does it, oh, we got someone coming to the toilet? Right, wait there. Let me just get this little and come, come sit on daddy's., one second boys. He's all right. Say hello. Oh, hello.

Hello. Hello. Say we're gonna have a bath after this. His hair's incredible. You sure Jamie Oliver's not his dad. Oh my life. Look at this, mate. He definitely ain't got a swash you and you ain't gone.

I know he hasn't. Looked at the, it's golden lunch. It looks like a lannister from Game of Froes. It's beautiful. Oh no, he's a good boy. He's hilarious. What was you saying? So how do you split it with the kids? So how often do you have Harry and how often do Stacey's boys go to their dads and stuff? Was it a bit all over the place? Well, at the moment, because because of a lo lives in Scotland and so basically I have Harry every other weekend from

yeah from Friday right through till Monday and in the next week I'll have him two days so I have him I have him basically probably about 40% at a time and his mom has him 60% so I'm quite a lot and with the other boys exactly the same they go see their dad's for the weekends and stuff like that so so but there the the the there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there's there's their their their thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi's thi's thi thi the is the the theeeeeeeeeeee theee theeeee the the th the same, they go see their dads for the weekends and stuff like that. So, but there's never a time when there's not a kid in the house because when the boy, when Stacey's boys are with their dad, I've got Harry here and when Howe was away, the boys it, so it you and Stacey were in the house, just the two of you? I mean, it's got to be about a year ago. It's got to be, restrictions have fucked it right

up. Honestly, it's got to be, we can't even get my mom up here to look after the baby. So yeah, it's just, that's the thing with lockdown. If I was a single person, I'd fucking love this. It'd be like, it'd be giving me an excuse to do nothing. But I honestly think that me and Stacey have been bidsier in lockdown than we ever have been. What like with kids? With work and with the kids, it's just a con. Because the kids, I I I I I I I I the kids, I the kids, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, like, their, like, their, their, their, their, they, th. th. their, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's, th. If, th. If, th. If, th, th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. It's, like, like, th. th. th. It's, like, th. It's, like, th. It's, th. It's, th. th. th. th the kids. It's just the kind, because the kids are not at school. It's like, I forget, you get rid of the kids for like six hours of the day, which is amazing. Like, it's like a free nanny. But now the kids, now the kids are not at school. You're like,

what would you do? If you got a day, a day, to the day, their day. to do with a day. the day, if a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a to, a to, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a day, a couple of one night, full day for night, what would you do with yourself Joe? What would be your day? Do I have to be, is it with or without Stacey? Let's do with Stacey, without Stacey, what would you do? Ah, you know what? I haven't gone to the gym in about two years, so I'm getting really fat. I'd like to probably go gym, I go gym in, I go gym in, just by myself, no one around me, I put my rods in and just freaking zone out. And golf, you got golf as well, don't you? Like we were golf, yeah, we went. I took, just, I took Beckett golf right, on the hottest day of the year last year. 35 degrees. And we did have no sunshine lotion. I've never seen someone and I'm the ginger one.

I was glad. I've never seen someone go so red in my life. Honestly Becky, didn't we think you had heat stroke at one stage? Yeah, at one point I had to lay down on the buggy, didn't I? Yeah, just to be a shed and you poured a bit of golf now, didn't you? Yeah, I've started now. I've tried to explain to Josh. It it it it it it it it to get it to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get their their. And I their. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. And, I. I, I, I, I. I, I. I. I, I. I. I. I. I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I like a bit of golf now, I've started now, I've tried to explain to Josh, it's a great way to get away from kids. Yeah, I'm, do you know what, this fishing sounding good? Because you don't actually have to do anything, right? I love it. You know what? I've only just started getting into it, um, last three months with my boy. And we love place up in Essex where you get a little cabin and in the cabin you get like a little TV and a couple of beds and a little fridge they bring you over your breakfast, your lunch and your dinner and you just put your rods out and just sit by the river just okay to catch it. Listen I've been fishing for three months I ain't called one fish. But there is not one bit of fish

equipment I haven't got mate. I literally I literally, if you if he was gonna draw a picture of someone with all the gear, no idea, it's me. But you know what it is, Beckett? You know what it is? It's a step up from golf because golf gets you out of the ass for about three hours, d'yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fishing gets me out for like two, two days, man. I love it.

I'm out for like, two nights. Well, my father-in-law was talking to my mom about it, like, a party ages ago when people were allowed to meet, obviously. And, uh, and if, I was just like, oh, God, don't cancel me. As if I was going to break the rules, the rules, the rules, the rules, the rules, the rules, the rules, the rules, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to going to break the rules, I'd get my parents and my in-laws to have a chat in my house. Yeah. Anyway, so she was talking about fishing. Anyway, yeah, I go down to the coast and I get down there and I get my sandwich out, my firmus and I got my chair and he went, sometimes I don't even get my rods out, I just sit there for the day. Honestly, it's brilliant. We get a little fire going. I love it. I love it. And our life, what we do as well as a job,

we're so busy and we're always sort of 100 mile an hour and everyone's like in your face and you've always got to be happy. Like he said, always got to give the best side of you and stuff like that. And I think there's nothing better than just to do nothing and just really just just just just just just just just just to to do nothing, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, nothing and just really just fucking just think about real things for a little while. Yeah, totally agree and just sort of like re-energized rather than we're just giving our energy the whole time. Exactly. One second boys. Let me just put this kid in the bath. Wait there. Give me one second, stay there. Okay. This is great this is live parenting in an interview. Oh is he actually getting in the bath? Yeah? Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give me me me me me me me me me me me me me. Give me me me me. Give me me me. Give me the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the things. R the things. R the the things. Re reener. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Re. Yeah. I'm doing it. Oh, is he actually getting in the bath? Yeah, you know what?

He was, I had a bath ran earlier one. He was going to get in it, but he didn't. And I've just sat and he's Chuck Temson King there, all the deodorants, the brushes, so let him just play with himacey then if you've got work, like, so like you'll have Rex now from half ten to half two and Stacey can do some work or whatever, how do you split it up or is it? No, I mean, we just sort of take it as it is. So like yesterday Stacey was at work, she was at loose swimming, so she leaves at about seven o'clock, so I just got up, I have the baby all day, I'll have a the baby, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, so, so, so, so, so, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, sa, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, split, s........................ So, s. So, s. So, how, how, to. So, to. So, to. to. to. to. to. to. the, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, howthen, and then when I'm at work, should do the same. But during the day when we both haven't got work,

there's no timetable to it, but like, Stacy will go, I'm just gonna have a little 10 minutes and it's gonna have 10 minutes. Oh, I'll say I'm gonna have 10 minutes, of such. Like I said, our kids, our boy, little wrecks is so easy that you don't really, like, it's a pleasure to be around. You just sort of sit and play with him all day. Yeah, and I think when you've had kids that are older now, you're so much more confident and you know how to be a parent, it's sort of like, you know, my firstborn and you just don't know what you're doing.

Yeah, well you know what it's like with me as well Becky, you know the story that I didn't really get a lot of time with how when he was a when he was a first born, he was a baby because me and his mom broke up when he was one and then we both went for a sticky period so I went for went missed about a year and a half of like real of him like where where Rex is at the same sort of age where I missed that with Harry it's almost new again for me do you know I mean yeah so like I get to really sort of enjoy it and make sure that I make the most of it because the first time ran for whoever's who thought it was I didn't get proper access to my little and so yeah I'm just blessed I get to do it again. Yeah I suppose it's however hard it is you're just so happy that you get to experience it and the highest that way the loads you know. Exactly yeah so you're gonna have any more.

Yeah I knew he's gonna say that. Well yeah no you don't sound like a man. I don't think you're gonna buyto buy another camper van, but it feels like more kids would be welcomed. You know what? I don't know whether Rex is lauders into a full sense of security because he literally was the perfect baby. He just made things so easy for us. If they're all as well, say you could guarantee they're all as well-behased how many would you want more? I think I think I definitely want one more. I think I definitely 100% would like one more. I'd

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Go again, yeah. We'll speak to you in five years when you got three more boys, Joe. Yeah. Yeah, fuck you will end up like the Walton's. They'd be like, see that the John Boyd, David, Sean, Josh. We never came to... What would you do, Joe if you and Stacey, you've got a day together no kids around I think I think I can take her fishing I'd love to take her fishing she's not having it at the moment I think these days I think it'd be nice to get up cook a breakfast then we'll go for a little bit of time together in the afternoon

and then we'll have a little bit more time later on that night. You know? Just some lovely time. There's been a lot of that time recently. You don't be a lot of them time recently. No, she'd like more time. When was the last time you had time together? Ah, mate, honestly, in it bad, man. I don't even know. I don't even know but yeah, just just I'll be

getting the time in as much as I could. Yeah, fair enough. I've got my final question always ask everyone Josh and yeah what would if Joe? Sorry why don't I keep saying? I thought you're genuinely talking to me then? No, no. Joe. One final question joke. We're so similar me and Joe Swash. I know. That's the that's why I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll just I'll I'll just I'll just I'll just I'll just I'll be. I'll be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. I'll I'll be I'll be I'll be getting I'll be getting. I'll be getting. I'll be time. I'll be time. I'll try. I'll th. I'll th. I'll be th, right? No, no. Joe, one final question, Joe. We're so similar me and Joe Swash. I know, that's why I get it. It's just, all I can see is just a big, curly ginger air, that's the problem. Is there something that your partner does, in this case, Stacey, something that Stacey, something that Stacey does, something that's sa, sa, sa, the their, their, tha, tha, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is thi, is thi, is that, is thi, is that's thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, is, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is th, is th, is th, is th, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is the thi, is the thi, is the same same same same same thi, is the same same same same thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, a row. Obviously it's taken that Stacy's an incredible mother but there's something that she does you disagree that annoys you a bit that you can't bring up because there'll be a row but if she did listen to this she would hear it and go oh yeah maybe he's

right what would that be? So Stacy lays out certain rules, pairing that we've got to follow her own rules. So like for instance I'll give the baby a little bit of orange juice in his cup yeah and she's going oh my god you're getting a voice teeth you're off your head to make a big thing about a hell I'm gonna do that again and then like a week later I should be like oh so we let them have a little bit of honest juice. I think sometimes it's the hypocrisy of a parenting that does me in. It's the thing that she's allowed to do that I'm not allowed to do. But apart from that like she said, she's amazing. And what would you and what would she say about you? What thing annoys her about the way you parent? Yeah, she hates it. I've got this thing where I'm a little bit lazy when it comes because sometimes you have a little smell

You like is he had this shit? Is he not a poop? I don't know and even I've got to take all this clothes off and fucking take his clothes off to realize it weren't a poo and put all his clothes back home. Yeah. So I like now just find a little gap in his baby grow and I work all the way down and I'll find a little gap and I'll dip my finger in and then I'm like, no he's all right, nothing on a lot of occasions you're like, you don't have to smell your finger, you're like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the orange juice isn't the issue there Joe I'm more on Stacy's side than you there mate I think Stacy's got a point just yeah what no you can't just it's too much the wrist to put your finger into potential human shit just to save a bit of time come on you must admit your own

child shit is not I look at Rex's shit like it's Play-Doh. Do you know what I mean? Because it's his, because it's come from him. Could you love him so much you don't mind his shit? Is that what you say? I could be, I could be elbow deep in your shit and I'll be like, ah, it's all right. This is. I don't think there's a person who's spoken to loves to you Joe, and I think, think, think, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, because, because, because, because, because, because thi, because thi, because thi, because thi, because, because, because thi, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because thi, because, because thi, because thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, because it's thi, because it's thi, because it's thi, because it's to to to to thi, because you Joe and I think it comes across. It's been so good but thank you so much Joe that's brilliant. Stacy know if she disagrees with anything she can

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show. Yeah, it was so loving it was so lovely to see Stacey's to in that the show. Yeah, I was so loving. I was so lovely to see Stacey's so happy and it was I was quite a lot. I I was quite. I was quite. I was quite. I was quite. I got quite. I got quite. I got quite. I got quite. I got quite. I got quite quite. I got quite quite. I got quite. I got quite quite I got quite. I got quite I got quite I got quite I got quite I got quite I got. I got. I got th. I got to to to th. I got a th. I got a to to to to to to th. I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got. I got. I got. I got a to to th. I got a to to to to to to to th. I got a. I got a to to to th. I got a th. I got a th. I got a lot. I got a lot. I got a lot. I got a lot. I got a lot. I got a lot. I got a lot. I got a lot. I got a lot to to to to to to th. I got a to to th. I got a th. I got a th. I got a th. I got a lot th. I got a lot. I'm t lovely to see Stacey's lovely as well and Joan Stacey's so happy and showing that you know big you know blended for the for the Wokeys out there blended families can work if a little bit busy and dysfunctional. I'm going to say that I'm very excited about Stacey Solomon's right to reply. Oh, okay. I'm not waiting. the camper van. Do you know what I like as well though is you were like on like in stuff where it talks about like having half-brother stepbrothers and sisters and all that and blended families and step-parents and all that is that and I've got my really close friend of mine like they had a big family there were the dear loves and the rights sort of combined

and it was always like oh the rights are like the dear loves are like that it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was fine it was like like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the right.. the the right. it was the right. it was the the right. it was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the they. the the they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the rights are like this and the dear loves are like that. And it was fine that even though they were separate that you could just, you know, identify a trait in that person that, you know, when he said the Solomons take ages to get out and I think, you know, sometimes we can all be a bit too like kids go. They're all just equal, everyone's a same. But no, they're a bit different. Chavar and get on so yeah that was that was great. I think getting the Solomons out of the house when he said that phrase I thought there's an ITV2 show waiting to happen. Getting the Solomons out the house and him at the front door come out we're gonna be late and the Chris just being peged up. That's brilliant. Yeah I love Joe Swash. Thank you all for listening. Back on Tuesday. Bye!