Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S02 EP27: Charlie Baker

Episode Date: April 23, 2021

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL' S02 EP27: Charlie Baker *TRIGGER WARNING*This episode contains some discussion of pregnancy issues and miscarriage.Joining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) during the lockdown and beyond is the brilliant comedian, actor, writer, singer and presenter - Charlie Baker. We hope you enjoy! Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks. xxx *TRIGGER WARNING*This episode contains some discussion of pregnancy issues and miscarriage.If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @lockdownparent INSTAGRAM: @lockdown_parentingA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello, I'm Josh Riddickham. And I'm Robb. Welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hell. The show in which Rob and I discuss what it's like to be a parent during lockdown, which I would say can be a little tricky. So in an effort to make some kind of sense of the current situation. And to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills. Each episode will be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you the listener with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing.

Hello and you are listening to lockdown parent in hell with... Leon, can you say, Rob Beckett? We've had that. We've had that. We haven't got one. Okay, cool. Welcome to the show, guys. Welcome to the show. It's a pleasure to be on Friday. We haven't got one. Boom. You can tell someone's expecting a baby in two weeks. Nope, done, move on. We have one, but I haven't. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to say. to say. to say. to say. to. to. to. to. to. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. We've. We've to thoooooooooo. We've. We've. to can tell someone's expecting a baby in two weeks. Nope, done, move on. We have one, but I haven't forwarded one onto the right inbox and it's genuinely... Why don't you fall one to me and I'll do it. Well, do you know what, Rob? I'm going to say it. I reckon this is from the podcast?

Yes, I'm gonna take the full six months, Rob. I'm gonna take the full six months off this podcast to look after your new fucking kid, I would be furious. This is the goal, this is what it's all been for. This is our Wembley. I promise, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the due day. Yeah. Yeah. I promised that I'll be there for the next podcast like God willing with health of the baby, etc. Yeah, okay. Rob, if I've learned one thing in the last year, I am best at my job, if you consider this my job, when I'm emotionally at my worst. You're most effective to bring joy to others when you hate your own life. Exactly. So I think I think I that I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Yeah, I'll thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe thooooooooooe thoooooe tho tho. You're most effective to bring joy to others when you hate your own life. Exactly, so I think the six months coming up

is potentially the funniest I'm ever going to be. If you come on here and start telling me how magical it all is, we're ending it. I can't do it. Actually, you know, with a bit of foresight, it's okay to just love it? Is it? I've seen those people. Everyone just isn't so awful, but you know what? It's actually magical. Yeah, there are some great moments, yeah. And I'd say they are peppered between hell. What do you say? It's sort of like little bright spots, it's sort of like the sun peaking out

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bikes at center parks, yeah. So we're the got to do that soon she's asking. She's five so I don't think it's too early or too late really I think it's about right or just before. Anyway we didn't get them bikes but I've got a bike of a trailer on the back so you can put them in it, Josh? So, you know, basically, Copenhagen came to a forest near Milton Kings. Oh, wow. And I had the kids in the back, right? And do you know what, to start the week, I was doing all right? I was like, you're quite heavy, there's two of them, there's some ills.

I've been on the exercise bike. They've had a workout and build up for this. Ah, my thighs are like Chris Hoy has let himself go. They look like the thighs of a man that once had powerful legs. I've never had powerful legs, but it looks like I might have had them at some point. Anyway, I'm doing all right. And towards the end of the holiday, I'm fucked, mate. I can't get up the ills, I can't get any speed up, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I the th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I've that, I've never had COVID. I didn't know, but I've got the long on it. Anyway, as I'm doing it, I keep being the girls, the worse I'm doing, the more they laugh. And I used to just thought they were laughing at me, they were their trying to. They were to do what they were doing. They were on the wheel and on the tire to slow, they were breaking me. Amazing!

They were breaking me. You're giving them a physics lesson roll. I know, but they were loving it. And I went, have you been doing that all week? They were like, yeah? I was like, you little shit. That's amazing. I know, so do you just think that your legs were going weaker and weaker and weaker? Yeah, I thought maybe, also I was drinking quite a lot. Do you know what I mean?

Because I don't know about you, if I can sit outside and watch my children on a park where I know all the things in there they can manage alone, I will sink four pints. Do you know what, Rob? I went for my first pint out. So I had Susie Ruffel and Alice came round and we had them in the garden. Of course. And me and to to th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thozy thozy thozy thozy thozy thozy thozy thozy thozy thozy tho-I tho-I tho tho tho-I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th. I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho thi tho tho tho thou thou thou the the thou the thou the to thou to to to to to to to to to to to to to thou thou thou thou round and we had them in the garden. Of course. And then me and Susie went to get lunch, went to get pizzas from the pub. Yeah. It was a 15 minute wait, Rob. And there was a table outside.

No way. And we just had a pint. On a bench? On a bench? Outside, the same household or anything? No, you just was allowed. Social distancing, obviously. Yeah, of course, yeah, you know.

Apart from you have one pint and it all, and it all falls apart, then you end up like sitting on someone's lap. We had one pint and we both had a straw in it. you're running banana on someone's roof and you're full of it all. Exactly, and I do hope people have listened to the last episode. Otherwise that is... Like I said, start from the beginning or don't bother. It's a soap opera, it's a soap opera. It's a roller coaster man, no one starts soprano's 10 Eps in, do they?

Exactly. You've got to start from the beginning to know why we're so sad. This is like the wire for podcasts. Yeah anyway so they look that happened in Center Parks Josh I've got two other things I've got some advice for you about the newborn. Do you want some that? Yeah. This is quite good advice actually. Second baby advice for Josh. Hi guys I've just finished listening to Tuesdays episode I wanted to message in some advice when Josh brings a new baby home because there's advice like you bring a present to be like, oh look, your brother's brought, anyway. This is, I've not heard this, this is very good.

When the baby arrives, make sure on occasion sometimes say to the baby, who obviously has no idea what you're saying, hold on baby, I need to help your sister. This way, instead of it like sometimes the baby is having to wait so it's fair so no one's a priority. That's excellent isn't it? That is like the ultimate parenting hack. That is I'd say that that is I'm getting like hairs on the back of my neck of like just feeling the excitement that you or a new parent is going to get to know that is an efficient tool because they're in that way it's fair that the eldest has to wait because the youngest has to wait as well and the perfect crime is the youngest hasn't got a fucking Scooby what's happening?

Perfect brilliant superb Josh oh yeah oh yeah and I've got one more thing as well I'm over excited Josh can you tell yeah I'm fucking vibe in the tell? Yeah. I'm fucking vibing mate. Do you ever get that? You just get an absolute vibe on and then you meet someone who's fed up and it brings you down. Yeah. You're not bringing me down by the way. I'm just saying that, oh no, I'll go out full of beans and then I'll bump into someone and goes fucking shit and it was fucking it was a football. You know, God. But at the moment I'm high on life and I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th th. th. th th. th. th. th. th. th. the. thi thi thi's not the. You're not th. You're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not thing me thing thing th. You're not th. You're not th. You're not th. You're not th. You're not th. You're not th. You're not th. You're not th. You're not th. You're not thi. You're not thi. You're not thr thr- thrown thrown thrown thrown thrown thrown thrown thrown thrown thrown thi. You're not thi. You're not thi. You going to read you. This is about old stuff found in the cupboard because your wife was trying to send four-year-old out-of-date chocolate to someone for Christmas. This is from a guy called Ian Spark who he's got the vibes of a sort of thinner goateed Tony Adams about him. Yeah it's quite a niche reference point. Yeah but you know I'm picturing him. Yeah anyway

Anyway my 89-year-old grandmother gave me some bacon ingredients she no longer used. There isn't a best before date on it, but the currency was pre-decimal. Yes, please. Now, this is almond flavoring. So I think pre-decimalization was 1976. Is that right? Have you done that off the top of your bones? Gs? Have you done that off the top of your bones? Give me a quick, get your goober up. Dissimilization. Here we go, because this is what is. It's an exciting youth content. 71. You were just five years out. Is it, hang on? Is this almond flavor in 50 years old? Yeah. thirty. th. the the the the th. th. the the the th. th. th. the the th. the th. the th. the the th. the the th. th. the the the the th. the same. the same. the same. th. th. th. G. G. Gies. Gets. Gets. Gets. Gets. Gets. Gets. Gets. Gets. Gets. Gets. Gies. Gies. Gies. Gies. Gies. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. A. G. G. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. this year. 50. 50 years old this year.

I wonder what they're going to do for it. You've got to bake an almond cake with a 50-year-old flavor. This is golden jubilee of the almond flavoring. Yeah, it's unbelievable. 89-year-old grandmother, 50 years. No one is going to meet that. She bought that, ironically, just before her 50th. So how does that work then? They've just found that and there's no price in it, but it's in decimal. Yeah, I'll send you the picture.

Yeah, so it's got on it, same, even the packaging's old. Oh, wow, look at that. Nine D. What was a D? What was a D in old, Boat? I don't know what a D is. I don't. I the d. I the d. I the d. I the d. I the d. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I'll. I don't. I'll th. I'll the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the picture. I. I the picture. I the picture. I the picture. I th. I th. I th. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll the. I'll the. I'll the. I'll the decimal shillings? The shillings? I'm going to type in old money. What do I get? Oh God, it's well confusing. So a 60 is a sixpence. Yeah. Why are we doing this?

Oh, is this mundane of the week? Oh, here there's old. Old Pence was abbreviated to a D. So nine pence. She spunked 9D on this, this grandmother. This went 9D? 9D's a lot for Almondo. But do you know what? She's got her money's worth over 50 years. Right, 9D in current sterling. We're doing it.

This is how mental old money is. But Google, I've put 9D in current sterling. You know what the Google's predicted? Two shillins and sixpence in today todds in todds in todds in today's money. Listen to this, right? How do people live like this? It's according to Wikipedia. So before this day in the United Kingdom, the British pound was made up 20 shillings, each of which were made up of 12 pence. So it's a 12th of a 20th times 9th is your 90. Geez, geez, Louise, count me out. I still don't know why they don't just do seconds in hundreds as well. It'd be easier wouldn't it? If a minute was 100 seconds and

there was 100 minutes in an hour. Yeah, surely that would be easier. The sun does get involved. Do you know what? We need another referendum. That's what we need Rob. And it should be like it shouldn't be 24 hours in a day, it should be like 20 or 10. But then I don't know I don't that that that that that that that that that that that that that the th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. t. te. te. te. te. te. too. te. te. too. too. to. to not done the maths, but all I'm saying is, let's do decimalization on time. Let's do decimalization on time. Quarter past five, my mom used to say, five and twenty to three. What the fuck is that? What? What? What? the fuck is that? that? Well, she used to say better than shanksch twch, 20 20 shanks, twch, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. that's, that's, that's, tooooooooooooooooooooooooicicicica, thithat? Well she used to say better than Shanks's pony. Have you ever heard that? No. Better than walking. Ark at him? I've heard that. Yeah, you've heard that. All right, mate. God. I'm not accusing you've not been down with the youth.

So that's fun as well. We were talking about hype beasts. And they were Fay Ripley? And someone thought he said height beasts, and they were googling it to try and find out what it meant. And they felt older, even older than they did before. Do you know what, Rob? Yes, we've got another on it. Someone's had some Tabasco sauce priced in shillings as the ta. I didn't think people liked it spicy in the as a tanner or half a shillin. 2 shillings or 1 flooring colloquial known as 2 bob bit.

2 shillins and 6pence usually said as 2 and 6 or half a crown. The value could also be spoken as half a crown but the coin was always a half crown. What the fuck is that? What the fuck is that? The Britain is such a... We are mad, pissed up village bastards. Look at me? It's mental. We just, we've all got wacky accents but live about half a mile away from each other. It's in, out we're so small, it's just so mental. It's like Lord of the Rings, isn't it?

No wonder Americans think Harry Potter's real. Do you know the weirdest thing? You speak to an old person, Rob, occasionally. You talk to them about old money, they totally get it. Yeah, and that goes easier back then. What's it? Fuck you mad bastard! Yeah. Imagine being American and coming to the UK to get your chillings back, and like you the the you you you you you you you you you you you you you their you to to to to to to to to their you to to their you to to get you their you to get you're to get you're to get you're sticky poo Nine a crown half a tum off we go just to get on the tube What's the tube it's an underground train mate get on board with mad fuckers here What do you drink pints what's a fucking pint about half a later, but we won't change it. It's a fucking pint? Oh? Oh, oh, the that. Oh, the thou' th, th. th. th. th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, thu. Oh, tho' thi. Oh, thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thin, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that. that. that. tub. tub. tub. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. t, mate. Oh dear, I'm tired now. What have we got, Josh?

Charlie Baker. Oh, another accent. He's near you and he? He is. He's from Newton Abbott, which is probably about eight miles from me. Is it? I thought he's quite a bit more cornish than you? Is he called it? No, he's Devon. I'm Devon. But he puts. he's. he's. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. th. th. he. th. th. th. th. th. he. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's thi. He's thi. thi. thi. thi. th thi. thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's th. He's more. It's got a stronger accent. Yeah, but you're trying to fit in with the Metropolitan East London Media Elite? You've got to remember I spent the first three years of my life in London, in London, some in Bristol, but yeah. Froopny bits all over the place, wouldn't it?

Frippny bit too, Bob Arthur, Uncle. Is he the ththreatny bit as well a euphemism. Yeah, I don't know if that's money or like some sort of misogynistic sex crime. Yeah. Anyway, here's Charlie Baker. Charlie Baker. Come on down. Hello. That was such a nice intro. Did you like come on down? You after the, uh, the Price's right job. Is that what it is? It's gone. Alan Carr's got it, Josh. You can't do it. Well, also, as well, you invited Charlie, like, you introduced him at the beginning of like an

ITV quiz show and now it's his turn to walk up. So come on down. But we should have a better intro, Charlie Baker, so comedian, singer, you do jazz, actor, radio host, you've got it all. Yeah. Very average and lukewarm are all of those. People like that. And they like that and it's just, stay warm. Someone early on in my career said, never be hot, just stay warm.

Just stay warm. Just stay warm. No, because being hot implies you will cool down and that could really, you know. Yes, that's a great, good advice. That's a great philosophy. It's a really good advice. I'd say, you've got funny bones though, Charlie. You're a funny person, which sometimes you don't have, some people manage

to get away without having that, but you're a very funny man. And you've got two children, yes, with a nine-year gap in the middle. How old are they now? My son is 14 which is like it's like living he can probably hear me so I have to be because I'm not really allowed to talk to him or about him. Right so that this is going out as well Charlie so even if you do keep your voice down there is an opportunity for him to hear. to to to to hear. to to the the to the to hear. the the the to to the the to to the to to the to to the the to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I I I the. I the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm toe. true. true. toe. the. toe. the. the., for the rest of all time. The internet's forever, isn't it? Yeah, and no, it's like living at the moment with to admire it. You have to absolutely go, that isn't some unbelievable rudeness there. But you also get like the matried at the front who is amazingly charming.

So some days he'll come down and it'll be like the matriedee will be here. The most charming person you've met in your life is an absolute joy to have him in the house. Absolutely beautiful and then he'll ask for like 20 quid or something and it'll be fine. But you know, you're like, and then sometimes it's like having that rude waiter. He doesn't speak to you. Just looks at you like an absolute idiot just does not want to speak to you ever again. Don't embarrass me in front of my friends, you know all those things. And then sometimes, it's peak hating Danvelode. And then you get the like executive chef full Gordon Ramsey, you are a bastard, I like you. Just absolute, and then at the end of it, just a beautiful, sometimes a great big cuddle or you know, I'm sorry dad and we have a big cuddle and I love you and you know,

and then we sit and watch the football, you know, and then it's all lovely again, then have cheese on toast, you know, but that's what it's like living with a teenager. Can I just say that the highlight of your relation with your son is cheese, is tho and I the cheese, is thia, is, is, is, is, the cheese, the cheese, thian, thian, thian, thi, thi, and I, thi, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, thian, and I their, and I, thian, thian, and I thian, and I their, and I their, and I their, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, I, and I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, th th thoaugh, th th th tho, th tho thoooooooooo, tho, the tho you have anything special on the cheese on times? I like, I just like your classic cheese on toast, strong cheddar, six, because they do it in numbers now, your six strong cheddar. Sixth, that is, they love a bit of a strong cheese down south with a little bit of Marmite on the bread. Oh, so you did say classic, but then actually you've absolutely ripped on the rulebook. You usedy wild card. Mad yeast inspired bastard. A bit of hinds on there, but a little bit of hinds, tomato sauce.

Can I ask a question that is a dispute in my house? Do you toast the toast on both sides before putting the cheese on? I am lazy, right? We haven't, we we we we we we we we we we we we we we have, we have, we, we, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we, we have, we, we, we, we have, we, we, we have, we have, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we. You. You, we. You. You, we. You, we. You, we. You, we. You, we, we. You, we, we, we, we. You, we, we. You, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have th. We have th. We have a the, we have a the, we have a the? thease, thease, thease, theasey. thease, we have the the toast on both sides before putting the cheese on? I am lazy, right? We haven't got a microwave anymore, but I used to do. I tell you what I used to do. Oh you animal. Bread and the toaster, get it out, put the cheese on, in the microwave for 20 seconds, bang. But it isn't as good. You've lost all the toast. It isn't as good. It isn't as good. It's all wangy. But if you're like me and just like an emotional eater and just need to shove something, just shove something in your face to stop the feelings, then, yeah. Well, yet so far, the entire chat, the supposed to be off a restaurant analogy

and they're on to cheese on toe but you've lost loads away are you still ripped or did you get you hammer yourself in lockdown its son's been away so it's been eating less I'm gluten-free and I've discovered that um how you're having cheese on tose not through choice where gluten-free bread Robbue and I've discovered that Corona Laga, Corona Laga, they don't advertise it, is gluten-free. Oh, is it? And so that's been a disastrous thing to find out. Finally some good Corona news, am I all right, guys? Ah, a bit of fun.

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sometimes maybe shoot. And that is basically my parenting style. I will sometimes go, oh, that was awful. That was a really bad bit of parenting. And then my wife will give me like a little tip, like of how to deal with something. And I'll go, I am brilliant. I that. I that. I that, I am brilliant at this. I am absolutely brilliant at this. Well, have you got examples of when it's gone wrong and then when you've nailed it? Well, it's always, she's really good at just saying, pick your battles, that is the key

with a teenager. Pick your battles and just don't try and be their friend. It's just letting a lot of stuff go. You just have to let a lot of stuff go. Take the frozen amendment and just let it go. Because it's like you're not going to win because the argument is is not lucid. It's not, they don't mean it. It's pure emotion. And hormones as well at that. Oh yeah, yeah, exactly. And he's grown. He's nearly taller than me now. What is five five? Kids are bigger though, aren't they? They are bigger now, aren't they? I think we're getting smaller. I am getting smaller. I am getting smaller but but they are massive now. These kids walk on the high street and so the kids walk home from school and they are they are all six foot plus. It is unbelievable. They are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are massive. They are massive. They are massive. They are massive. They are massive. They are massive. They are massive. They are massive. They are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are massive. they are massive. they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are. But. But. But. But. But. But. But. But. But. they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are massive. they are massive. they are massive. they are massive. they are they are they are they are they are they are th. they are th. they are they are they are th. they are they are they are they are they are they are they are all six foot plus. It is unbelievable. They are massive now. I think

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Was he jealous a bitch? They're not jealous, but he's, you know. He's always been, he's always been good as gold, you know, he's always been, he's a really lovely, he's a a natural host and he's funny and he makes up good jokes and he's, you know, and he's, he's a really lovely, lovely lad. And when we, because we struggled to have our second child, we had, we had a few problems having our second child. So much so I'd given up having a second child, completely become at peace with it, and written a show for Edinburgh called Just

The One about how great it was having one child and how only children with a future and how we should all have only children. And also the terrible thing of calling kids only children, like they're the only one, oh only you, oh bad luck, you know. So I wrote a show about that and of course the moment I'd written that show and paid my Edinburgh money, we got pregnant with another child child... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Oh th. Oh th. Oh, oh th. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, and, and, the, the, their, their, their, th.e.e.I.I.I's, th.I's, the.I's, the.I's, their, their, their, their, their, their,that and of course the moment I'd written that show and paid my Edinburgh money, we got pregnant with another child straight away. So... Right, but you're a lazy comic, so you went through with the show anyway.

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And it is really hard, A, on you as a couple, very, very tough on women, really, pretty brutal, I think, the physicality of it. And it's, the first time it happens, you're like, oh, that's sad, you know, because with Stan, it was straight, we got pregnant straight away, it wasn't even an issue. And then, and then, you know, a couple years later, we went, oh, you know, try it again, and and it sort of happened pretty quickly. And then, and then we had the miscarriage. And you go, oh, that's sad, that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the sad, the same, the same, the same, the same, that's the same, that's the same, that's the same, that's really sad and I didn't expect to, but you know, as they say in football, we go again, you know, you try and move forward and make it a positive. And then after the second one, it's like, oh, that's really hard actually. That's hard again. And then we stop trying again for a bit. Because too hard, just too hard, you know, and also then it th th then it th then it th then it th then it th th th th then it then it th th th th th th th th th th that that, that, that's that's that's that's that's that's really that's really that's really that's really really really that's really that's really that's really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really, that's really, that's really, that's really, oh, that's really, oh, that's really really, that's really really, that's really really, that's really, that's really really, that's really, that's really, that's really, that's really, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's really, that's really, that's really, that's really, that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really hard, that's really hard, that's really hard, that's really that's really really hard, that's really really hard, that's really really, that's really, that's really, then we stopped trying again for a bit. Yeah, emotionally must be so taxing. Just too hard, just too hard, you know, and also then it starts to affect your relationships,

relationship with your, with our son, you know, and you sort of think, well he's enough, this is enough, you know, we're not a happy family, this is enough. And did he know what's going on, Charlie? No, no, not not not not not not not not not no, not no, not no, not no, not thah not thah not at all. And then the third one, we were, you know, you get a bit of hope, you know, you get a bit of hope. And that was the one we went, that's it, we'll stop now, because it was just too hard. Yeah. For that one, Sam had to go into hospital to have a DNC and all those things. And, sorry, what's it, just, a DNC, a DNC, a DNC, a DNC, a DNC, a DNC, a the their, a DNC, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their,'s it just at the NC is where they have to actually remove the the fetus you know and also when you're in hospital things

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never been proud of him and that is just what he's like. And he's never been jealous of her. He's never, of course it's difficult and also you want them to be siblings. You know, you want them to have that. But yeah, that was his instant reaction and he was just so joyous when she was born, you know holding her, because he's big enough to hold her, yeah. That's amazing. That's our story, so it might be a bit much. Yeah, oh wow. Well, I think that's really good of you to share with people, so I think a lot of people that listen to it's a way.

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I'll show anyone that's great. Yeah, it is great. But the other day, Betty said, oh, dad's not as fun as Bluey's dad. You're like, and I'm like, oh, this isn't good. I said, they only film, they' you know when he's being fun you know that's that you tweet you that's one of the worst defenses I've ever heard no it's like blue it blue his dad is like he's got real you know when you were either of you an uncle yes yes yeah and did you have a lot more energy when you were an uncle than when you were a parent oh yeah and yeah it's, it's an uncle. If you're an uncle with kids, you are like Superman. When you're an uncle with kids, I'm just like,

I've got me own, you deal with them. Yeah, exactly that. Your kids are lovely, they're lovely kids. I've got no time from whatsoever, because I'm sick of my own ones. kids now. Yeah, exactly. Do you want to sleep over? Should we bring them over? No, why double the number in my house? So I think Bluie has got real Uncle Energy as a parent. Yeah. It's like, I don't think, I think, I don't reckon he's like that all the time.

They should do an episode where Bluey's really a hangover from the night before, all those things, you know. Normal dad stuff. Just normal dad stuff. It's like Instagram bodies, you've got to have a realistic body on Instagram so that people don't feel like they're letting themselves down. We need realistic dad figures on the tele so we don't look shit. Because they took Pepper Pig the other way, Daddy Pig and Pepper Pig it's just like the just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just like, just like, just like, just like, just like, just like, just like, just like, the the the they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, I they're they're they're they're to to to to to to to to to to to to to, I I to, I to, I to, I I to, I I, I, I they're, I I, I I, I I, I, I, I, I I they's, I I they's, I, I they's, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I've, I've, I've their, I've their, I've their, I've their, I've their their their their their their thi. their thi. thi. their thi, I've their, like constantly lazy and rubbish, you know, you need the happy medium in the middle, but no one would watch it with their thing. No, yeah, exactly. And Mr Bull, Mr Bull is my favorite in Pepper Pig anyway. Have you done any like kids, because you're, I could imagine you doing like kids, like, kids, like, thi.

the energy, th kind of that energy about you have you done anything like that I can't I know you say I can't remember I don't think you've got the right energy for it though because you are happy and smiling but you're funny and quite cross and a bit angry about stuff but you do what I do which is on paper with a happy go lucky one but actually yeah we are ranting through a smile on stage. Yeah, I could imagine though Charlie, I can imagine you hosting Down on the Farm. Oh I do down on the Farm. Oh no, I love that. You know, we'll all, me and Charlie are built for that.

No, what would be Rob. It's like town and country, yeah. Come on, come and look at the countryside, Rob. Yeah, here we go and have a little look.. It th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I th. I th. th. that, I that's, I that's, I that's, I'. I'. I'. I'. I'. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I. I. I. I, I. I, I. I, I. I. I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the countryside, Rob. Yeah, alright, here we go, let's go and have a little look, Edica, oh, hey, I got me new wellies on. Yeah, boy, oh, I've stepped in some cow boo, oh no. No shit here. Oh, it's gone on my new Worriebot classic. Let's go back to the city. All right then, what's going on here? Harley don't need to do an impress to do an an impression to do an impression to do an impression to do an impression to do an impression to do an impression to do an impression to do an impression to do an impression to do an impression to do an impression to do an impression to do an impression to do an impression to do an need to do an impression of yourself. Jeff Rose lawyers are in time.

Yeah, I bet the dental, I bet the tendon, officer. Well that's quite a good idea for a kids TV show. It's a town country. Yeah, that'd be good. Lovely stuff. There we go. We've got that on record now if they say that. Yeah, when Julia Donaldtonic it it it's n if they say it. Now we've pitched that.

Yeah, when Julia Donaldson nicks it. She loves it. Yeah, she'll be. Oh yeah, that's the thing. I'll tell you watch books of shit that David Wally's books. Oh my God. They are not read them. Oh my god. They are they are. They spoil reading.

They make people, honestly, one of them's good, like one of which is that there's like one good one and the rest are utter shit. There was a point when that was the only children's book that was like advertised or on sale or whatever. And they're always like, you know, John and the jumping grand Grandad Plain or something, you know, and it's like, oh God. And they are so badly written. They're offensive. And it's just like, you're really angry about them.

Oh, I can't bear, I can't bear the book. I think they, then you read something good, you read like a good book, like, they're like, they're like, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they., they., their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.............................. And, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're like they to me they're like rolled dial rip-offs basically right no but you read like bed knobs and broomsticks something or like the borrowers and they're amazing yeah they make you cleverer they're brilliant stories and look to me to be positive the boy in the dress is good there we are I'll tell you that we'll sniped that bit out of a Charlie, your son, Rob said earlier as a goalkeeper with a football team. Yes, yes. What's it like, I think this might be the first person we spoke to who must stand on the sidelines. Yeah, yeah.

How is that emotionally? Because particularly a goalkeeper, where really the role of the goalkeeper is often to shoulder the blame if things go wrong. Yeah, that happens a lot. Yeah, yeah. I just stand up, I stand up his end. So is he play at quite a good level, is it just to say that they mean? He plays, he plays in a Sunday morning league in Oxfordshire and there's his team, although they're only 12 boys from the same village, they're really good and they've, they've played together since they were seven and a lot of these teams, but as they get older they just become like Frankenstein teams like the best players from other teams will join too but his team have stayed together so they are like a true class of 92. Yeah they are, they are. Now that's what they're like and where they live and they're the area where they live, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their. their. the area and their their their their their. And their their their their their their their their their. And their in in their in. And their in. And their and their. And their. And their their their their their their their their their their their their are are are their are their are their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their are are their their are good. But that football, it's utterly, utterly ridiculous.

I mean it's brilliant to watch it when they're playing well and everybody's happy and it's all going along nicely. But the amount you have to, you have to stand behind a line. Because people, you do get cross. I mean, for the first... So this isn't a COVID thing. No, no, no, no, no, no. So, it it it it it it's. It it's. It's, you. It's, you, you, you, you, you, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's. It's. It's the the the the the amount, you. It's the amount, you're the amount, you're the amount, you're the amount. the amount, you're the amount, you're the amount, you're the amount, you're the amount, you're the amount, you're the amount, you're the amount, you. the amount, you. the amount, you. the amount, you. the amount, you. the amount, you. the amount, you. the amount, you. the amount, you. the amount, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you. It's, you. It's, you're, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that's the that's the that's that's the COVID thing? No, no, no, no, no, no. It's a behavior. You've got a technical area as a parent. It's a parent's behavior issue, right? Oh wow. And where do you come on the scale of problematic

parents? Right, well, this is the thing. I am right into it. You know I'm right into. I love sport and I'm an enthusiastic loud person. And I would th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I to to th th to to to to to to to to to to th to th to to to th to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to the to the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. the. the. the. the. toe. toeate. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to toe. to their their their their and I would say in the first 10 games I probably got a bit too into it a couple of times. Okay out of 10 a problematic parent scale. Oh not not problematic just okay noisy loud never never aggressive but just noisy and loud would all the things you shalt be positive towards the team I have always been positive I was always been positive about the refereeteam. I have always been positive. I was always always been positive. About a referee? Sometimes, early on, no, when you start out, you go, oh, God, no, because you take the terraces onto it. Yeah. So I'm talking a long time ago now. But as you go and you go, you look utterly ridiculous, or you see someone else lose it, you know, or you see another dad, you just stop, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you to to stop, you to stop, you to to stop, you, you, to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, they. their, their, their, their, too, too, too, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, try, try, try, th........ th. th. th. th. th. th. try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, too, try, too, try, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, s lose it or whatever, and you go, oh my God, so you just, you just stop it.

It just stops because you just go, you look utterly ridiculous. But it's, I don't know, there's something about it, it just, it does get inside you. And it's really exciting, when it's really exciting, you know, when they win and when they score and they're in tournaments and it's very unlike watching sport in any other way. So what is like if, what is like if you're Wayne Rooney's dad or whoever's that? If you're Judy Murray, it must be, I mean, I've met Judy Murray and she's a very calm woman and very, very even in her face. Is that why she looked so confused at Wimbledon? If you're at that level, it must be so difficult, but you must have watched hours and hours and hours of them playing sport, driven them.

This is what you realize as well, that the sacrifice that sports people's parents make is just unbelievable, the one you don't want them to get in, what you don't want the kids to get into into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into to get into thoom i thi in thi their their their their their their their their to get to get their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the one you don't want them to get in what you don't want your kids to get into is swimming. You don't want them to be good at swimming. I thought he said women. No no no no swimming. No swimming's horrible. Swimming's horrible it's hot and sweating. Yeah. And they're inside for hours and then you watch them and they're underwater for most of it and it's like hours and hours of you have to get up really early to go and practice and stuff you know it's too much but also I got a friend whose daughter is an almost Olympic level pistol shooter. Oh God. And he says that I said oh that must be unbelievable, must be brilliant. And he went it's awful right because you're just in some leisure centre somewhere and they're not you're not next to them.

They're like the other side of the hall, just on their bit. They shoot twice, like, Duh, and then that's it. And it's just quiet. It's no excitement. It's like, oh God. So there's loads of stuff. You say how she got into that? Yeah, yeah, she turned up with a, like a, a Cubs evening at this shooting range for like

a Cubs night out. And she more, she got very close on her second go to breaking the club record. Brilliant at it, like an absolute natural that. What's strange thing to be brilliant. Yeah. Charlie, we're gonna have to wrap up. We've th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. tho, thuuu, thu. thu. thu. thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu. thu. thu. thu. thuuuuuuu. thuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. Uh, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th? Yeah. Charlie we're going to have to wrap up. We've got one last question. Thank you as well for being so honest earlier. I think a lot of people will really appreciate that and it will help a lot of people. So thanks for that. Other parents of girls that are into shooting. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We have an Olympic level shooting. The question was it's called Crosby's law and it's the thing that annoys you about your partner's parenting that you've never had the guts to tell her

that frustrates you slightly and this is your you know moment to say if you did listen back you could maybe trouble is trouble is the trouble is Robert and this is genuinely the answer and Josh will back me up as one of this is I genuinely the answer you want wrong with my wife's parenting. She's a really, really brilliant, I know this isn't the answer you want. No, no, it's funny. If it is the answer, what would she say about you? Oh, just too overly emotional, dropping bombs all the time and then sort of expecting for it to be cleared up, not holding myself enough enough, you know, not parenting enough perhaps. Yeah, being too fun. Trying to be, being like, th, th, th, thi, th, thi, thi, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be like, to be, to be, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the, really, really, really, really, thi, really, really, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, really, really, really, really, the, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, thi-bea, thi-in, thi- enough perhaps. Yeah, you know, being too fun. Trying to, not even that, just trying to be like, I want to do this. Basically, stop being an attention seeking comedian.

Yeah, yeah, but at the same time, you know, I'm full of love and I love my kids. Of course you, you're a brilliant dad. I've seen you with Stan up in Edinburgh in that and he absolutely adores you so I'm sure it's just a 14 year old being annoying at this stage but yeah you're a four years Charlie you'll be back in the good book exactly I'm a part you can buy me a pint in four years yeah four years he can buy me a pint imagine that lovely stuff oh cheers Charlie thanks so much my thanks Charlie yes lads