Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S02 EP31: Tony Bellew

Episode Date: May 7, 2021

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL' -S02 EP31: Tony BellewJoining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) during the lockdown and beyond is the former WBC Cruiserweight Champion boxer, Tony Bellew.Tony's book 'Everybody Has a Plan Until They Get Punched in the Face' is out now!(As are Josh and Rob's books. Don't be shy....)Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks. xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @lockdownparent INSTAGRAM: @lockdown_parentingA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills. Each episode will be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you the listener with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing. Hello and you are listening to lockdown parents in hell with. Tantan, can you say Rob Beckett. And can you say Josh Whitticum? Josh Widdicum?

Yeah, well done. There we go. This is from Deborah Guy. That is Tanneth. I'm a huge fan of the podcast and a listener from the very beginning, so I thought it was about time I asked my two-year-old daughter Tannit to say your names. That's a nice name. Tannin, I've never heard of Tanneth before. No, a Tantan was a good shortening. Tantan. Tant. Is that what she calls a Tant? She said that in the recording. Oh, it sounds a bit like drugs though and it's sort of one this weekend. You still know that guy with a tant. Quarlo. How are you, Rob? Rob?

Should I just tell this story that I trailed on Tuesday? Yeah. I can't believe I've not told this before. Is this your story about the baby at your gig? Yeah, I can't believe you've not told it on here before. out second half and initially I just hear a slight baby crying when I'm like saying a joke yeah and I think that can't be can't be true can it you know because a lot of these theaters are haunted as well Rob so that's partly in my mind yeah so then I'm like it happens again I'm like is there sorry is there a baby here and they were like they were like yeah and all the people around them like yeah the there there is? there the the the the the their like like like like their their their there is like there is like there is like their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're is. they're is. they're is. they're is. their th is. the. their the. their theeeeat. their their their their their their their their their their their their their there a, sorry? Is there a baby here? And they were like, yeah,

and all the people around them were like, yeah, there is. And so this is what had happened. What would you have done? They've got a one-year-old, or maybe even younger, maybe a six-month-old, or whatever, their babysitter had called in sick just before they were leaving the house? Yeah. So they thought, the the baby, the baby, and th, and th, and th, and that, and that, and that, and that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi, thi, thathea, yeah, and their their their their, yeah, and all, and their, and their, and their, and their, yeah, and their, yeah, and their, yeah, and their, yeah, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, their thea, their thea, their their their their their their their their Yep. So they thought, we'll just take the baby. No, that's not not acceptable. Get this, they got to the theatre. I was like, what did they not stop you when you're coming in? They said they charged us a quid for a baby ticket. A quid? A quid? A quid! A quid! Also, no offence, but that should be your call. It should be the theatre's call.

It's surely the performance call. Well I'm going to say it, Rob, I reckon that that quid was just someone going, I'm just going to chance my army. That's why. A quid. A quid! A quid! A today. worries is I don't want to you know do down my performance that night because

it was one it was a lovely show yeah but the baby did manage to sleep through the whole of the first half which is worrying so so the baby cried a little bit but then went to sleep the cradle it but the start the second half oh so it slept through the whole first half yeah and then obviously it got louder an in it full and then it woke up all those people enjoyed themselves chatting and laughing some hubbub there a lot of people going this is fucking dog shit so we just go to the park and then when you came back out and it all died down again it got shocked by the

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Now I'm accusing people. Yeah, I'm not it. No, yeah. Just suggesting. I'm not, you know, obviously, it's really bad. We're very anti, just to be clear. I mean, I couldn't be more anti-pedos. Yeah, they'll never be an about turn on that. No. That is the policy of the podcast. Yeah, and I know when everyone also says, you know, but if you disagree on things, to discuss you with other people and see they're not this one buddy. No, I'm entrenched. I'm concreted in on my view on Nantes's.

Yeah, do you know what, ever since I've known you've had that view, you haven't changed it once? No, I haven't. Consider it a credit to you. How have you been Rob? How have I've been? I've been alright actually pretty good. The girl is they're getting busy in the girls, which girls, the girls, the girls, which, the girls, which, the girls, the girls, which, the girls, the girls, which, the girls, the girls, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, their, th, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their thi, thi, their, the. the. thee, their th. the. thee, their, their their thee, Sunday. So it's quite, we've got quite a nice balance. I do feel guilt though. They can't, my five-year-old can't swim yet. She was doing lessons before COVID hit and now we're trying to get her into swimming lessons but everywhere's booked up. It's really difficult and I want to summer, you know, does she want to

do them? Is she fussed? She's half mentioned the bike and I think she she loves swimming and they would want to go so yes I think so because they sort of kids at school talking about swimming and bikes and stuff but I want to try and get that sort of it's very difficult to find the time to go and do it. to go to go to go and to go to go to go the time to go to go to go the time to go the time to go the time to go to go the time the time to go the time to go the t to go the t to go to go to go to go to go to go to go the the t to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go time time time time to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go the time the time to go the time to go to go to go to to the time to to the time to the time to to the time to the time to the time to go and the time to go the time to go to go to go why that's my goal this this summer But you can do like book like intensive courses or something where they go in half term every day They're all booked up So I don't know what to do like when people do that week long driving thing. Yeah, but I'm thinking because there's two of them and the youngest is three and a half But she's really physically quite capable and confident. I think? I think? I'm tempti physically physically physically physically physically t I'm t I'm t I'm t I'm tip te physically physically te physically te physically te physically te physically te physically te physically te physically te physically te physically te physically physically te physically physically te physically physically physically physically te physically physically te physically physically physically te physically physically physically physically te te to to to to to to physically physically physically physically physically physically physically physically physically to to to to to to to physically physically physically physically physically physically physically physically physically physically physically physically physically I I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm t I'm t I'm t I'm t I'm t I'm t I'm t I'm t I'm t I'm t I'm te physically physically physically physically physically physically te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te te tea, I'm tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea to just splash out on, excuse the pun. Lovely. Really nice stuff.

Splash out, you know, and on a instructor that I'll book them to do it in a week and really, you know, jump in the deep end with it. And it'll be really single swimming time. And then let them have direct one on, like one on one with both the girls and try and get them swimming together together together together together together together together together together together together to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the girls and try and get them swimming together and see if that's, and I might even do, what I might even do is a few other friends have got kids at the same age, get like five, and then split, try and get four or five kids and split the cost, and then you'll create your own little class and then you can just go and do it in a public swimming, to'n't thrown. That's nice because we we we we we we we thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. throwne, thrown. thin, thin' is thin' is get thin' is get thin' is thin. thin. thin. thin. I get thin. I get thrown. And thrown. And thrown. And thr. And thr. And thr. And thr. And thr. And try. And try. And try. And, try. And, try. And, try. And, try. And, try. And, try. And, try. And, try. And, try. And, don't want to get too late do you know what I mean? Yeah exactly and like to be fair she's still only young and there's been lockdown and the swimming pools have literally been shut and we had

booked in courses but that's for you can't be too harsh on yourself but it's something I would like to do in the next by the end of summer I thinne by the end of summer good idea that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the I the the I the the the the the only other thing happened the other day was I bit the five-year-old by accident when we were playing, we were playing, I know, we were playing, we were playing, we were playing, we were playing a resting game like that and I was like, you know, when you sort of like, you're a crocodile, you nibble on them and then just sort of like you can barely see it and she's like oh I've got a mark I've got a mark and she run to her mom go daddy bit me and I was like this looks bad like Italian footballer. Yeah look with these chompers. Also it's real it's real do our die time now with the five-year-old's teeth because she's lost the top two when she was younger just in an accident and then the bottom to have fallen out oh natural out and she now looks like she's a meth ed and the teeth are

coming through and it's it's all about the jeans did she get the becket ones is she getting a pair of becket jumpers we'll find out in the next year I'd say because she could look for a few years absolutely insane. Well presumably did you have a brace Rob? Not on the top ones but the bottom ones... There's nothing that could cage those is it? I think I'd have to, you know, that metal they try and put around like a superhero and they're arrested him in X-Men? Special cage for a magneto. But the bottom ones had an extra two so I had that one taken out and I had a brace in the bottoms but the top ones are pretty straight and they're not that goofy so they didn't need to go back but but the bottom ones were a bit sticky out so I had a brace in the bottom ones but these

front two ones I had at the age of six and they've been the same size and my head's got bigger luckily but from about six to I looked absolutely it was. It was. It's. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're not they're not they're not they're not to to to to to to to to me to to to me too too too too too too too too too they. they. they're they're they. they're they're You'd see the tooth coming first. Oh, well, you know what? You've made the best, and now, I'd say, I'm more mention your teeth because I know it's a thing than I ever notice it, if you know what I mean. Yeah, well, if you type in blonde, big teeth, I'm the first thing that comes up on Google, followed by some absolutely disgusting pornography. I once was in a club. Sorry, I just... I was about to try blonde big teeth to check your thing, and then you finished saying what you're saying. That's why I kind of paused. I mean, it's off a look. Someone's saying, I'm not, it's not bad.

I was once in a nightclub, and I saw, you know when you clock people that have clocked you, but they're trying to work out who you are. And then they're obviously Googling to try and work out who I was. And I looked at their phone, like just caught it in my eye, and they've googled, Ginger comedian. And they were looking at a picture of Andrew Lawrence. You're not ginger? Well, that's what I wanted to bloody well say, mate. Do you know what?

Because you're like, like, sort of ashy blonde, where mine goes a bit, did yours go lighter in the summer? It does go lighter in the summer? Yeah, mine goes really light in the summer. to the thiii. that's just, you know, mine. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine, th. Mine, thi. th. thi. th. thi. Because. that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th more sun on it, that's just, you know. But if I was dying it, then I'd have blonde hair all year, wouldn't I? Yeah. Exactly. So I do find there's a real bit of, you get a bit of shade from people that don't

like blonde and just accuse of being when I was a kid, right? It was so light. It used to, when we went to LaserQuest and there was a UV light. Yeah, that happened to me, it used to glow in the dark. And my teeth! Of course you do, you must have been in a sitting dark, mate. No wonder I was shit at Quaser. Awful. It was ridiculous. Everyone just seen me running around. Teeth and air blasting out across the... All I am is teeth and air.

When I was going to go to Spain, people used to touch my hair and say, Rubio, Rubio, Rubio, because I was blonde and give me things. Oh wow, that's nice. We've got an email, I've got an email about young Josh. Have you seen that in the emails about you Josh? Hello? There's got a picture coming through talking about your blonde hair. Here it is. Hi Rob and Josh, I went to primary school with Josh.

I was... Is this another one? Chloe Will he played me the episode with the Steph Tiley gate and it made me laugh so much. Josh. Yeah, she's- Def Lyley, that's what I call it. Yeah, the one that got away. She could have had Widdocom. Look at her now.

Steph, I think to be fair. Steph, to be fair. I to be afraid, Rob. You know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. to, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. L. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. to. to. the the the to-s. the the the the to-s. the the the the to-s. the to-s. to-s. to know what, Rob? I'm going to say it. I was a fucking version at 10. Yeah. Oh, look, slow coach. Get some cider and get down the park and get your end away. Blumley or wherever you grew up, but at the age of 10. Um, Josh, do you remember? What, what what happened at Marble Mann? So, Rob, so, this is the kind the kind the kind the kind the kind the kind. the kind. the kind. the kind. the kind. the kind. the kind. the kind. the kind. the kind. the kind. the the the the the the the their. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the to. to. to. to. to, to, I. to, I. I. I, I. I. I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the the the the the th. to. to. to. tod to. today. to. to. to. to. to. to. S. S. S. S. S. I was. S. I was. S. I was. I was. S. I was, actually Rob, this is the kind of thing you'd hear about in a book that Alan Sugar would write about being a young businessman, right? Yeah. Now you've covered what my school was like, so it won't surprise you. There was a brief period when Marbles were very popular because I grew up in Victorian times.

Yes, yeah. Play start called the House of Marbles that sold Marbles in Bovey Tracy. And we all th th. Yeah, of course. And then me and my friend Thomas started an after-school club. Oh and it wasn't really marble-themed but we kind of piggybacked on the marble thing. Okay. Yeah. What did you do? Everyone would come around to my house. Yeah and then we'd sell stuff that we didn't want in a shop. Yeah. Yeah. And then we'd charge everyone a pound to get in. And then we borrowed Christopher Campkins disco likes. Yeah.

And we put them on and then I played a mixtape that my brother had made me, which contained rhythm as a dancer. And on a ragga tip by SL2, if you remember that. Yeah. And then we'd we we'd we we'd wee we'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd ip by SL2, if you remember that. Okay, yeah. And then, and then we'd all watch neighbors. Okay, right. Yeah, and it was called Marblemania and... Did you play marbles or do you show each other your marbles?

We'd show each other. We never really played marbles, it was more of a kind of a show. Well, no one really understands You trade them and stuff like that, but we didn't really even do that. Well here it says, do you remember running Marblemania Club? Obviously you do. I've got to be honest, it's still a sore point for me. It was the hottest ticket in town. It was the hottest ticket.

And I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, the hottest is th hottest is th hottest, I'd say, th hottest, th say, th say, ththe phrase town. You're clicking because you're excited aren't you? Yeah, here they are. It was the highest ticket. I was really counting my money. Me and Thomas were making about a 10 or each a week from it and we were 10. Can you imagine what that kind of money is like? You actually earned more money there than you did in the first week of lockdown. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not gonna lieto lie Rob, we didn't declare it. Oh, oh, you'd have the tax man in your case. According to this, you did Marblemania. Rich and Soonak trying to deal with the debt by getting on to me by Marblemania. Yeah, but according to this, you did Marble Mania for 10 years with five shows a week. Um, here we go.

the older sister would come, yep, thage, thage, -issued one in the dance competition. Oh, yes, please. I don't even remember the dance competition. That sounds like the kind of pro. I'd say, Rob, if I was to draw a comparison between Marble Mania and anything, I've experienced in later life. Have you ever been to Wayne Linnaka's Ocean Beach? No, I haven't been there. It's a similar vibe. It's a similar vibe. Also, you know, he trades on the Linnica name in the same way he traded on Marbles. That kind. I would say though that the host of the party, Wenlinka, is definitely not a virgin. If he was a virgin, it would be one of the greatest scoops of all time. Anyway, I wondered if you had started it up again, now you have children. No. I haven't started at Marblemania because I live in East London. Yeah, well you could try my, my mom and dad also found a load of playgroup primary school photos

I thought Rob are I appreciate the one I was found of you. So this is you when you had really blonde hair. They used to run the uh the barn aunt the yearly fundraising barn dance. Marble mannard could be a great thing to, we're, well we've got big plans eventually to do a festival of lockdown parenting health so Marblemania could be one of the tents. Exactly, that'd be great. I'll be up for that. I wasn't going to mention this today, Rob. Yes.

But I'll briefly, because I'll talk about it out. Yes. I have written a book and it is being announced today Rob. Oh that's excited what's it called? It's called Watching Neighbours Twice a Day and it's about, it's a good title is it? It's about growing up. Tell that to my editor Rob. Yeah it's not it's not jump off the shelf easy is it. What what what what what what what what what what what what what what what they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thooo thoo thooooo. tho jump off the shelf easy is it? What were they suggested it called? Josh Winnockham from the last leg on Channel 4? At the end of the day the discussion did go round around until the agreement was made that no one gives a shit about the title so they'll just let me have whatever I want which is very nice of them. What's the cover going to be? Well, the book is about me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the be? Well, the book is about me growing up in the middle of nowhere in the 90s, and my obsession with TV, and each chapter uses a different TV show as a starting point

to tell the story of my childhood in the 90s. That's very clever way of doing, isn't it, isn't it? It's a lovely, nostalgic take on the TV TV TV TV TV TV TV TV TV TV TV TV TV TV take take take take take take take, tak, tak, tak, tak, ta, t watched in the 90s, but also there is a chapter which talks about Marblemania Rob, so I wasn't going to mention it today. Yeah. It's a Marblemania chapter. The live and kicking chapter touches heavily on Marblemania. If you want to pre-order, why wouldn't you? I'm going to read it, mate. I tell you what, I can't promise I read it, Rob? I'll give you one for free. But if any, you know, it's available to pre-order now, so do go on. And, yeah. Why not while you're on Amazon or Waterstones or your independent bookseller website, order Rob's as well? And then you can hold them both up at Christmas, listen to the podcast, it'll look like we're talking to each other. Yes, that's a great shout. Get watching, the tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to tho. And to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thoooooo. And twice a day and a class act from all your favorite bookshops.

There we go. But on Tuesday I want to ask you because I'm not very comfortable with promo and you're very good at it. So I'll ask you about that on Tuesday. Let's work, you need a strategy. That's what you need, mate. You need an angle. Yeah, we'll work it out. the links out. Do you. Do you. the links. the links. Do. the links. Do. Do. Do. Do. the the the the the to. the to. the the the to. the the the the the the to. the the the to. to to the to to the to the the the the the the to to to ask. to ask. I want to ask. I want to ask. I want the to ask. I want to ask. I want to ask. I want. I want. I want. I want. I want. I want. I I want. I I I I I want. I I want. I I I I I I want. I want. I I I I I want. I want. I I I I want. I I want. I want. I want. I want. I want. I want. I want. the. I want. th. the. I want. to. to. to. to. I want. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to not going to like you. I've got a baby Jew. He's got he's got a baby Jew. He's going to have to take he's that he's turning down work to look after his child. If you can please buy the books. We will have really appreciate it. Josh should we introduce our guest and he's got a book out. He's got a book out. He's got a book out. plan until you get punched in the face, his autobiography, very interesting story. His editor didn't stand up to him like they stood up to me.

Yeah, yeah, the editor's mom's a dick was the actual title, that they were fine with until Tony stopped the joke. But that's about his life story and he went from a very sort of uncompromising, tough upbringing in Liverpool all the way to win the world title, a crui, tod, tod, tod, tod, tod, tod, tod, tod, tod, to, to, to, to, the, to, the, the, to, to, to, the, to, too, too, too, too, too, the, the, too, too, too, too, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the t.... He, the the tod, the tod, the tod, tod, today, today, today, today, too, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, the editor, today, to winning the world title at Cruiserway at Gooderson Park the stadium of his hometown club no I remember watching it on the tele and it was incredible Google if you go on YouTube basically in that fight he gets knocked down in the first round then he comes back to win and it's absolutely incredible so what Google Tony Bell you macabre at Gooderson Park in front of all the Everton fans it's amazing and he's an incredible bloke. He's very intense and scary and alpha.

I love the intensity. You know, like he's sportsman times, times ten. Not most sports people you interview are intense. Yes. He's intense times ten. Yeah, but he's very fun and loving as well, but he's got that switch which he needs to be good at what he does. But he wasn't interesting about this chat, though, is I think we're quite fairly modern in our approach to parenting and stuff, where he's still a bit more old school, which is fine. And I know, it's good to, you know, he's a bit more... Takes all sorts, Rob. Exactly. told.

Exactly. got all different angles but yeah he's very like old school dad but he absolutely loves his kids to pieces but he's got teenagers and this was recorded in lockdown and it's sort of fairly like a bleak point of lockdown in January time I think wasn't it yeah I should say after all of the anecdotes about you being on a golf course finally we've got one that really kicks off it's a good that's a good story. And this is Tony Bellew, enjoy. What does Possible sound like for your business? It's having to spend to power your scale with no preset spending limit. Redefine possible with business platinum.

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I've become so much more to way, but this homeschooling me up. It's killing me. What, how many kids have you got? And how old are they, Tony? I've got one who's 15, who thinks he can take me. I've got another one who's twe 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 who's 12 12 12 12 who's 12 who's 12 who's 12 who's 12 12 12 who's 12 12 who's 12 12 who's 12 who's 12 12 12 12 who's 12 12 12 12 12 who's 12 12 he can't he can't he he he he he that's 12 12 who's 12 who's 12 12 who he that he can't that he can't that's 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 he can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can't can't can't can't he he can't can's that big and heavy. I've got one that is eight.

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years old and he's tough as nails mate. He doesn't give a shit. You know, I can't walk, yeah. Which is completely understandable. So to set up his basic. Do you feel like because you'd be like, you, you, you, you all sorts of things. 20 mate don't do me on stage. Okay 20 years but over the time of the kids you know being small kids and you're away at camp for like months and stuff so now you're fully retired and you're at home so in what regard you try to make this child your projects is it because they're softer because they're mommies boys are that you want a mummies boys and they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're t. t. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. ttry. ttry. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. So so so so so so so they're they're mummies boys and that you want a daddy's boy or what? Yeah, the mummies boys and they've just been giving everything they want. I mean, I've had to take, as you can see that picture in the background there, it's the jaws picture. I'm just like I don't need these problems but the mother just gives into everything this is what

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I can cook, I mean, you don't get this fat mate by not being able to cook, you know what I'm a greedy bastard but listen. I cookthat's what I do and I get told to clean certain Aides in the house or clean the kitchen really well I can stack a dishwasher dishwasher like no other fucker on the planet. What's your top technique? What's the top technique for the dishwasher? Top technique is a space between each dish so you know don't just jam them all in I'm fill every little little slide in compartment so you can't put like 10 plates if you're the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. I I I I I I I I I I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm the the they. I'm they. I'm they. I can't. I can can't. I can't. I can can can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't the the the the the the the th. I can't th. I'm th. I'm t. I'm t. I'm t. I'm tip. I'm tip. I'm touch. I'm touch tip. I'm touch touch tip. I'm touch touche. I'm there's 10 spaces you got to put five plates that way they all get washed back to front properly yeah the knives and forks I put up I put a space in between everything so I utilize a dishwasher perfectly I can't believe I'm talking about this does that mean I'm interested it does that mean you're

doing twice as many washes than everyone else though it doesn't make because I predict the amount the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to to to to to to to to to to to to their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their their their their their their their their their their their twea te I try I try. I try. I try. I try. I'll try. I'll try. I'll try. I'll try. I'm try. I'm the amount that I'm going to use so sometimes I do a wash before I start to cook over the night and sometimes it just depends on how much I'm cooking cooking what kind of meals I'm cooking but yeah. Are you're a coping retirement okay? I haven't got time to think about it meat. So what does your day involve now with home schooling and stuff? Are you doing all of that? My day, well I'm not going to tell Lise, and there's no point in doing that because she might see this and then she might just give me a slap and put me straight so the best things is just tell us. The fact of the matter is I don't do the homes because you know why because because I can't do it. I had a big argument with the th. I, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, th, because, because, the th, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, they, they, because I, they, they, they, they, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, because, because, because, because I, because I, because I, because I, because I, because I, because I, because I, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they they they they they they they they, they they there, there, there, there, there's there's there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there, there's there, there's took 15 pence, he had a pound, and we went back and forth and I was like, he had 85 pence, she was like, no he didn't. So I was like, yes, he did. Don't tell me.

My son's sitting there, he's laughing. He finds it absolutely hilarious because he can do the math quicker than the two of us. So I went throughthrough a bit of an episode over the weekend and I thought like I was annoyed, Meets all day Saturday I was not happy and I was on it I was on the edge of just just it must be it must be so hard though when you go from like your career of where you are you know putting yourself and your health on the line and that and adrenaline and that and that and adrenaline and the stuff likethat so you need that out there? You need something mate, everybody needs something so. Do you know what? I know I rant on a little bit and I go a bit off the scale but you know this lockdown at the start of it, definitely I've got to say at the start of it, it was absolutely brilliant. My family we got into a routine. I loved it. And it just, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I'm, I've got, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, I'm, everybody, I, everybody, I, I, everybody, I, I, I, I, everybody, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a th. th. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, and it just, I've spent more time with my kids in the last 12 months than I have in the last 10 years. And I mean quality time,

because as you can imagine, my career just takes over everything and I was so driven to become what I actually ended up being, that it took over my life boxing, came first. It came before my wife, it came before my kids. And everyone used to say to me, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, the, th, the, th, the, th, the, th, the, th, I, I, I, I've, I've, I've, I, I, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, t, t, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t togu.a, t togu.a, kids. And everyone used to say to me, yeah, but you're doing it for your kids, but you know what, mate? I weren't. I was doing it to become world champion. After I became world champion, yes, I'm doing it for my kids, the financial side of the things and stuff like that, but make no mistake about it. I wanted to become world champion. I was driven from a year from the ages of 1415 I was insanely driven trying to become world champion so I've done that for me. In the process I've been earning for them yes the financial and the lucrative side that was for them 100% but that belt that I've got that she's actually

fucking shoved in here. Yeah what you want me in? Is that in the bottom, bottom drawer of a cupboard in my office? No. Shove in a cupboard. Look at that. That is the pride and joy of my lifelong ambition and goal and she just shoves it in her fucking cupboard on the top floor in the office. At least the jaw's picture is on display. That's the ninth thing the jaw's picture and that floor in the office. My life in... At least the jaw pictures on display,

that's the ninth thing, the jaws pictures on display and that's in the cupboard. Sure it should have a box or just a towel round. That's, but that's there, that's there. The wedding, the cupboard. So yeah, it's that's what it was all about. So lockdown one, so lockdown one was amazing because you got that time with you. How is it now? Brilliant Rob? She does everything. She does everything. so she does all her homeschooling, she cleans like a maniac and that winds me up and then, you know, I try and have time for us, that like, it gets about half, eight, nine o'clock at night and I'm like, it's our time now, love, let's watch a program,

let's watch flick on something and she's just like, I'm tired and I'm tired now, I'm tired and I'm going to bed. It's like anything to ignore me and stay away from me, you know, basically being out me way all day, not spoke a word really, gets there about eight, half, eight, nine o'clock on it here. See it after. And I'm like, what the fucks, what the fucks? You know what I mean? You just, I'm trying to stay so, we've we' called children. And mate, it's just hard but... And does your 15-year-old think he can take you now? Is he getting that sort of swagger?

Yeah. He does, mate, and he's going to learn the hard way that, listen, dad did not get us to a house like this and drive a fucking car like that by tickling people's arses, he turned it by slapping people's arses and dealing with big strong ass men. So boy, pay attention if you're going to watch this. Are they going to be boxers? No, no, no, don't be daft. I mean, I haven't been punched in the face, Josh, for 20 years to see them get punched

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From a distance, he's six for four, I'm six foot three. This looks like too big, hairy ass men about to go for it. I've put the golf bag down, I've took the glove off. He charges at me and tries to take me legs. Like I told you he's been watching UFC like a unity. So I kicks back and puts me weight on the front. I just leaned on him at this point. At this point now, he's trying to have a wrestle. He's struggling. He's felt the weight of me literally, and he's understood I'm now in trouble. I just then mounted him. I'm just thenedededededededededededededededed the the the the their their their their their the put me arms in this position, his arms are in this position, I just stuck them, I put me one knee on there, the other knee on there, so he's on the floor like this and I'm over the top of him. And I just said, now you're going to lean, and I just give him, boom, there's one slap. I said, are you still want to carry. Is this all you've got? Another slap. At this moment

in time, two men just walked right past me and just looked at me and shook the head. I didn't even have the energy to explain to them. He's my 15-year-old son. I'm his dad. Do you think that would have explained it? I don't that meant it better. So, I just, I lent to him in this position with my knees there like that. Just for the listeners, that's like hands by the head, like a kind of hands up, my knees are pressed down on the sides of him and I'm over the top and I just, he couldn't get me off mate. Listen, I'm 16, 17 stone. He's about 10, 11 stone ring and wet. He's built like a like a beam pole. So I just continued to give him a little him him him the face every 10, 20 seconds for the space of about three to four minutes. We got up and the end he said yes dad okay I understand I'm not ready to take here and I'm not going to try this challenge again. I'm sorry dad no problem

get up give him a little slap on the ass sent him on his way. I'm guessing that's going to give me another 12 to 18 months, hopefully two years until it comes again. So you know, it might not end us well the second time round, but it did end pretty well the first time. He went back home to mom. He their theymeat and said love he got his lesson to his mom. He was embarrassed. He didn't want to explain to his mom that dad had just taught him a lesson in life. And that was it, mate. You know, that was the last episode. He spoke to him about it since? Every time he tries to come on and says like, yeah, dad, I think it's time I just say, son, remember the golf course. And he's again. Because that's bold. I know he's a little bit tall than you, but it's so bold at that young age to think like that because that, you know, it's not like he's a-thing Eddie Hearn and Barry Hearn had a little spa didn't they?

But Barry Hearn wasn't a proper boxer and stuff, but there will be a stage but like the problem with my kids. kids I am they've never seen that side of me I always it was my horrible nasty vicious side which I have got and I understand that and I've took that on board it only ever came out in a boxing world or you know when someone challenged me in a car while I'm driving does come out there as well to be on them to be honest with each other they've never seen that side of me so the all as I am to them is big soft and dopey because because because they they they they they they they they they I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I they I have I have I have I have they I have they I have they I have they I have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they are they are they are they are they they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they are to they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they They've never seen that side of me. So all as I am to them is big, soft and dopey. Because I just, I take everything in me side, my wife's the boss in the house, I mean, the

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the greatest night of my life really, but it was just, I I mean, as I say, the greatest night of my career, the greatest night in my life, really, but it was just, I can't put into words how much it meant purely for the fact of, I've been going to go to some parks, watch Everton Football Club every other Saturday since I was nine, ten years old. And Everton means everything to me, you know, I've watched them, I've been season tickets all there. I love the club and I if in the ideal world I would have been a football player playing for Everton but the fact of the matter is I was too fat and I wasn't good enough so you know I end up the only chance I got got the only chance I got a good guy on to do my heart case so it's I just my dream crease throwing the shot so today's a case I just my dream was always to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a football to be a football to be a football to be a football to be a football to be a football to be a football to be a football a football a football a football a football a football to be a football to be a football. a football. to be a football. I was the the to be a football. I was a the the the the their. I'm a top guy on Zoom. To Zoom hard case.

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started to come into the game for me because all of the fights before that, some of them were for decent money and it was okay, but none of it was where I could set my family up for the rest of my life. So none of it was, I hadn't owned a house before that World Title Fight, none of the houses I was in and I owned. So it wasn't until that World Title Fight, that then you know things went better and as Rob touched on it, I come across David Hay and then that's where my life financially changed and that was a massive part of why I've been able to retire when I did. Does it, do you worry, that, that, th, th, th, th, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that that that that that, was, was, was that, that, was that, was that, that, that, that was that was that was that was that was that was that was th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thin, was thoooo, was that, was thrown, was th your children are going to have a different upbringing to you because of the different money situation? Definitely. I worry about that all the time and I think it's so, with my kids it's so easy come easy go. I would think with Cody, you know, when

he was born, I was born 15 years ago, it's a little bit different because, you know, when when Coddy was first born I was living in my first house or terraced house in Old So on which is a tougher part of Liverpool not like where we are now so he's he's seen the progression he's being around and I'm when you know when we didn't have much when I was struggling when I had no money and I had a mortgage and I was skint and you know and he's being around them difficult times don't you know and he's and he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he the the the he the they they they they they they they they is they is they is they is they is they they they is th th th. th th. th. th. He's the they they. they they. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th ti is ti is ti is ti is ti ti times times. times. times. tm. times. times. tm. times. tou' is tttimes. times. times. times. wrong, he never went without in them difficult times because I was still willing to do some stupid crazy things to earn money. But he was around in them times in them days. After that, when my second son comes, we were still in the terraced house in old swan when Kobe came, but I was doing a bit better then. And then by the time the third one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one their one their one their one their one their one their their their it or not, the third one weren't planned. You know, we weren't in a better position, a much better position that was living in a nicer

house and stuff like that. And then on this latest one-one-one-year-old, and then on this latest one, he's one, he's just going to know, he youngest to sort of know that they're like living a lucky lifestyle was or what do you mean by like a project to make them like you? There's no there's no denying that I mean I've been away for so long that you know I've been so good at what I've done that it's been able to retire but I've been a way it's took me away from them and I haven't been a full-time father if anything I've been you could class me as a part-time father while I was fighting which is hard to say I've been very selfish I've taken myself away to camp going to America for months at a time making a bleeding-blocky movie going away for three months and not coming back home so as I said she's had to deal with these all the time. On this final one, I've been here nearly every day of his life. I'm part of it, I'm here.

And the other three, I wasn't because I was so focused. Even when I was at home, I wasn't really there. I was just so focused on fighting. I'm getting to the next challenge, making the next few quid, always on anything but being a parent when I was fighting and that's sad to say but that's me just being honest. I'd regret. Well you have to have that mindset in that kind of job because you have to be a, it's not like you chose to be in camp, you have to be in camp if you're a fighter, it's part of the process. You do mate, but when I look back now I think I didn't have got so far because I'm not athletically gifted. I'm not you're Anthony Joshua. I'm not somebody who you look at him and he's got fucking muscles bulging out of his face and his body and he's just he's a perfect specimen that's not me.

So I had to work on other aspects and parts of my game so much more. Like I was insane driven every time I was in camp I was just on it every single day when I wasn't in camp my mind was still focusing on the next move doing this, doing that. Whereas other people who are naturally talented athletes, they just go into the gym and it's like they've never left. It's crazy how some people work. Whereas me, I was a greedy fat fucker sometimes. As a kid growing up, you know, I was 15 years old and I was 15 stone and I was 15 stone and that puts thinn't. That's th, I was th, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, and I was 15, and I was 15 stoned, I was 15, and I was 15, and I was 15, and I was 15, and I was 15, and I was 15, and I was 15, and I was 15, and I was 15, and I was 15, and I was 15, and I was 15, and I was 15 st and I was 15 st and I was 15 st and I was 15 st and I was 15 st and I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, I was 15, and th, I was 15, I was 15, and th and th and th and I was 15, I was 15 st and th and I was 15 stoned, and thated, I was 15 stoned, I was 15 stoned, and th. 15 stoned, and I was 15 stoned, and I was 15 stoned, and I was 15 stoned, and I was 15 stoned, and I was 15 stoned, and thed stone and that puts things into context. My first professional fight, I was two and a half stone lighter than I was when I was fighting a 15. But I chose to cut weight and go down, just all these things. Do you see that mindset of relentlessness in any of your children that they're that sort of super driven?

So do you think it's a genetic thing or a product of your environment to escape and, you know, make the situation you're using better? I see it in Carter, the eight, nine year old. I definitely don't see it in the fucking other two. Because they just, they're ever do think in their own time, it will just say, no, I'm not doing that, don't feel like it. Whereas I have never quit anything in my life. I can't quit. It's a sad thing to that I have that I have the the the the little the little the little the little the little the little th. I have the little the little the little th. I the little th. I the little. I the little. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, the the the th. their, I've their, I've their, I've their, I've their, I've their, I've their, I've, I've, I've, I've their, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. I'm, th. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've the the thi. I can't quit, I just can't give him. It's a sad thing to that really. I'm so germany. I'm just, I mean even the little things like beating your kids on FIFA, I want a tank him meet, I'm still, but he's got the PS5, I'm doing him on FIFA, I'm doing the Elvis one on FIFA and I'm not playing around with him meat. It you know the Sabbath he's not even that bothered. And I'm furious that he's actually not bothered but I mean I can't explain that the anger I have when I've done him and needs to respond and he's just like yeah yeah it's crazy isn't it?

But Carter's different in in that respect yeah yeah he yes mate he hates to lose he'd do it like like his two elder brothers will knock fuck out of him and he will come back for more he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he's he's he's he he's actually he's actually he's actually he's actually he's actually he's actually he's actually he's actually he's actually he's actually he's actually he's actually he's actually he's actually he's he's he's he's he's he is he is he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he will come he will come come he will come he will come come he will he will come he will he will come come he will he will he will he will come he will come he will come he he he he he he he Yeah, he hates to lose. He do it. Like, two older brothers will knock fuck out of him and he will come back for more, believe you and me, and he will not stop. Really? So what will your wife say to her about that then? Will she go? What have you, like, will she say, can't tell me? What are you doing? You stupid idiots, you big you, you can't them thin' thin, you, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're thin, you're thin' thin' thin' thin, thin, thin' thin' thin' thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thin' their, their, their, their, their, their their, their, their, thin' thin' th.. And, and th. And, and th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thooooooooooo''a'er. thoo'er. thoooooo'er. And thoo'er'a'er. And tha'a or he's not like you. And I'm like, you will be like me if I can teach him a few things. So... What siblings did you have when you're growing up, Tony? I have got three brothers meet. So, two elder ones, one younger one.

So, I'm four boys. And was that a similar thing where you're all fighting and you're all... Me, you know what it's mad because growing up, my eldest brother was our Craig Mad Evertonian so he left home when I was about 10, 910 and then he's just living with some bade at the time or whatever but he'd still come and take me to the matches with him because he got me supporting Evan Believer not my dad's the rebellious little fucker I am I am I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th th th th th th th th th to to th th th th th tho-I tho-I tho-I th th th th th th th th th th thed thed thed thed thed thed thed thed thed th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th they they they th th th they th th th th th th th tho that tho tho the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to theeeeeeeeeeee dad's the Liverpool fan. So being the rebellious little fucker I am, I chose to support Everton's gold games me dad because I was I'll do what I want. So yeah, R Craig was always there. It was, R. Wesley was my next one up. So, our Wesley is the brains out of the four of us. He's a clever individual. He met the the, he's thrain thrain thrain thin, he's thin, he's thin, he's thin, he's thin, he's thin, he's thin, he's thin, he's thin, he's the thin, he's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to means, I, I means, I means, I means, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's go, I's go, I's go, I's go, I's to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, I's go means, I's their, I's their, I's their, I's their, I'll their, I'll their, I'll their, I'll their, I'll to their, I'll to to to to to their, I'll to their, stuff like that and he would like he would do what I don't do I call it he would pin me down bump give me slaps now again

just to teach me a lesson show me as possible you've got to understand I outgrew them pretty quick because I'm the biggest of me and all my brothers and I'm the heaviest once I got to like 1314 that the challenges like stopped in my house with me elder brothers and then with my younger brother being gay I had to every fight you could possibly imagine I had over him not with him because I would but you know it's no there's no it's no conspiracy why I'm a boxing mate you know when you've when you've got a young brother who's gay and it's apparent that he's gay at a very very young

age then you can imagine being young black and gay in South Liverpool wasn't the most desirable thing to be at that time in the late 80s in the late 80s early 90s so I had many a fight defending him yeah really did which is very hard but you know he's his own man, I'm married and stuff like that. So yeah, it's no coincidence why I am what I am. I love me brothers and I love the family that we have, but it's crazy when you look back on your life and see it's no coincidence why I am what I am and why I ended up doing what I was doing. I was I was completely off the rails at some parts of my life,

which we all have been at some stage. But as when it comes to fighting, it's no coincidence why I am, why I ended up a fighter. Did boxing kind of, was that the kind of outlet to get you onto the rails in a way? Definitely. I'm not going to use that old cliche one of box and save my life, you know without boxing. I, probably been up to some stupid things yet but no more stupid than anybody else. You know we've all done daftings we're not very proud of. We've all like, well I don't know, we've all had close scrapes with the law. I have. But it's a, you know what I think I was very fortunate to find me to find me way. It was my dad who put. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I've all th. I've all th. I've all th. I've all th. I've all th. I've all th. I've all th. I've all th. I've all th. I've all th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. thi thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. thi's thi's th. thi's thi. th. thi. th. th fortunate to find me away. It was my dad who put me into the boxing world and stuff like that. He was always proud. My dad was one of them people who, he'd a brilliant dad, but my dad left home when I was 10.

But my dad never became, never like taking himself out of my life. their life was always in my life. So looking back on it, I always just wanted to impress my dad. My dad was my dad was th dad was a thau my dad was a thau thau. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be a to be a to be a to. to. to bea. to bea. toe. toe. toe. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I was. I was. I was. I was t. I was t. t. t. t. t. t t t toda. t t toda. toda. t t toda. t toda. I'm today. I'm t t t t my dad. My dad was a fellow who really could have a fight and it wasn't a boxing and just could have a fight, he was an hard fella. So bringing home 10 GCSEs, grades 8 to see, that was never really going to, you know, cut it and impress my half fella. Me going to go in the gym and knocking someone clean out, you know, fuck me, that's getting me a new pair of trainies or a traininger, their, their, their're winning me second amateur fight by knockout and rendered this guy unconscious within 30 seconds. My dad bought me a season ticket the two days later for the Everton. Yeah. Yeah. But that's the kind of thing people would talk about in like their friends and

people boast about their kids don't that you know when you run a nightlife security in a city like Liverpool which he was he must have had about 2030 nightclub doors and it's like and loads of the lads who work for them will turn up and watch me fight yeah I've just rendered someone unconscious to tell you what so your lad he's gonna be something else I mean Tony see your lad what he's brilliant he's this and that and that's like it's my lad that fucking my lad that you know so that was that's that that that that that that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's they. they. their their their their their their their their their their their their they I they I they I they I they I they I they I they I they I they I they I they. they. they. they. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy to to to their their their they's their they're they's they's this and that's like, it's my lad da. Foking, my lader, you know. So that was, it made them so proud and I say, I've got a dad who's extremely proud of me. Someone, and that was the big, that was one of the biggest things in highlights me, could you just making me proud?

Yeah, and what, and do you want to fight all the time. They say they want to, but if I'll actually, go on then, they know I'm not going to let them, but if I said go on then, go on do it, they fucking soon get a fright. But that's not what I want for them. I want them to be everything that I wasn't able to be. So my kids have have their brains their brains their brains to their brains their brains to their brains to their brains their brains their brains their brains their brains to their brains their brains they're got to be brains their brains their brains, their brains, their brains, they're got they're to be to be, I their brains, I'm not they're to be they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their to be, I'm not their their their their they their they they they they their they're they're their their their to be their to be their brains, I tha, I'm not to be thr-a, I've not going going going, to be try. try. to be try and to be thrown, I've thin, I'm not they're not their they can do different things. The whiz kids on certain things. I'm not expecting Einstein's for kids. I'd love to get one out of the 40 university. That would be a brilliant thing for me to do to see one of my kids go there. I've been very fortunate and able to set up things for them so you know they're going to have really, really good childhoods that they're going to be able to go into, shall it not work, doing what they want to do. So you know, I've planned and I've set things up for them, going forward. I think that's unfair though, Tony, when you say you're not blessed with brains, because you're obviously a one-man business, but you've th........ You're very very very very very very very. You're very. You're very. But, but, but, but, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to be a a very. to be a to be a to be a very. to to be a to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to th and I'm th and I'm th and I th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And, th. And, th. And th. And th. And the. And the. And the. And the. And the. And the. And the. And toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And toe. And the. And th. And the. And th. And the business you're in, you knew how to work it, you had strategies, you did PR, you did market, you was essentially a one-man business and all those things connected,

you know, like the way you set up the fight with David Haye was a very shrewd marketing move that would have been looted in marketing departments, but because it's a bloke kicking off another bloke, he just looked like to be like, like, sloathe. I was clever and wise at that side of things but that's just because of experience, experienced level to that point in my career. So you've got to remember in the early parts of me career I was dealing with snakes and in the boxing world there's tons of them. So you soon learned to make the most of what you've got. The most of what I had, a lot of it was just open this and talk shit and just create rivalries, do different things. I was brilliant at that and I understood

composed shit. I'd say composed shit, but in a cover way with an outcome. I've got to back it up. There's no point in just being able to talk shit and talk shixt in the end you're going to get found out. The most important thing in boxing is and everyone say you can talk a great fight, you can talk a great fight but ultimately you you've you you've you you've you you've you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to their to to to to to to their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tapot. tapot. tapote. tapote. tapote. to coo. I tolde. I to coo. I to coo. I to coo to coo to coo to be able to just fight. Yeah. You get fellas who can talk the best game in the world. You can get fellas who talk shit, create rivalries, but mate, if you can't fight, you're just gonna get slapped everywhere. And that's not what we're doing. It's embarrassing, you end up on a YouTube compilations of boxes that get owned.

You don't want to be a mean mean. No, and if your boys, if your boys did fight Tony, would you be in the corner and manage and coach them or would you get someone to do that for you and you, you know, because it's like this, you know, Nigel Ben stands quite far away from Connor Ben when he fights and then Eubank is very much involved with Chris and you, how would you approach it? I don't know, Rob, I couldn't see me kick up on the face because they're going to have to punch me in face. Yeah, but if they're going to have that fight, then you know, you'd be watching someone in the corner, but then if, you know, do you think that you'd be able to do a better job on instructing them and give them advice, you know, because in the way that is protecting the way, because, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, they, they, they, they's, they's, they's, they's, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, but, but, but, but, but, but, if they're, but, but, but, but, but, but, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they's..... If, if, if. If, if, if, if, if, if.... If, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if they, if, if they, if they, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, you're going, you're going, you're going, you're going, you're, you're going, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, I've been offered a few opportunities to train a few fighters now and I've said no, purely for the

fact of, you have to remember how involved a train it is with a fighter. Every time, the train is in the gym, the t You know, you'd be emotionally invested. It's your child. I don't know me. I couldn't. I couldn't. I don't know. Could you sit rings out and watch? No. No, no chance. No, I couldn't watch. I don't know how my dad's done it for this minute is. My dad adores me and I know me in the world to me. My dad's my dad's watching me watching my kids I couldn't do it it just a thought of it oh like me my son's had argument to school and I think a kid but I wanted to go up and fill the kids dad in I wanted to go up and fill the kids dad in just so the kid understands that you know I'm never gonna do that the the running my wife talking me around to stop me doing it. I was going to go and fill the kids dad in right outside the school in front of us in front of his son

and that's the kind of thing that you just you'd have to need someone on your shoulder say you can't do that because that's how goes but the school dealt with their it was it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's hard it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's hard it's hard it's it's it's how it's that that it's that it's that it's that it's that's that's that's that's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th is is is th is th is th is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi thi thi thooooooooooooooooooooooes their their their their their the thought process, then that's what your brain is telling you to do. Not to do. Not to, but I expect my son to deal with that. Kids are always going to get, fights are going to happen till the end of time. And I was like, oh, me miss, you can't do that. And I was like, you can't do that. And if I'll do that, they, they, they, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to told, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, I, I, not, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I expect, I'm, I'm, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, I, I, I, I to, I, I, I, I, I to, I to, I to, I, I to. I. I to. I. I. I. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. Fight, to. Fight, I expect, to. F. Fight, it's not I'm trying to put it right. I'm just like that's not the right way to put it. So she talked me around and I've now realized that that wasn't the right way. So as long as he gives a belt back, you know, it's a job done. But yeah. I think you're always like to end with the same question. I reckon you're quite an honest. I'm so honest that's me. I'm that's, I'm that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's that's that's the that's that's that's that's the the that's that's not. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. that's that's that's that's that's th. the the the the the the the th. I's the the the the th. I's th. I's th. I's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's going to be anything. I'm too honest that's me. When my Mrs says that sometimes I've got to just well I shouldn't have said some of the

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But you know what I'll tell you what she does right it is exactly how it goes. This is what she does and this is fucking really annoying. So you know when they've stopped listening she's and like she's lost them and she's tell him do this and they've got to explain this she's doing that and she's taking over a lesson with the man like the carters just had enough because he's cheeky and ears or say I've had enough not doing no more. Ant, aunt, Antony come here, he's not doing it and then why, why shel me? What do you tell me for? I mean, you're doing, you do the home school? But oh yes, shout dad then because dad's the disciplinary and dad's fucking sordin' the punishment. Dad will deal with it. So I come down down down down down down down head little shit, sit down and do the rest of the work now. I'm warning you, don't test me. So I'm always the bad guy. You always have to be the bad guy. I don't appreciate being the bad guy. I mean don't get me wrong, my kids. I'd like to think they love me or if they don't fucking brilliant acting skills they really are. I've created a few fucking Al Pacinos and Robert De Niro's in this house if they

fucking don't really love me. Yeah I hate being the bad guy all the time but I do understand you know you do need discipline in a house and I am the disciplinarian in this house. Does it work though but like do they respond to that or do they know that you know you love them to pieces and you can't the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they try try to try try try to try try try to try try try to try to try to try they they they they they they they they they they them to pieces and you can be soft with them like so they can they sort of see through it slightly even though like you saying that for somebody doesn't know you is a bit scary because you're you know you know ex-champion boxer but for them do they sort of know no he's just I think last week was a bit of a toubter thin going now, I've still got it back here. Wait, yeah, he's got the PlayStation back where I've still got the phone. So it's been eight days now.

Yeah, wow. And he's got a girlfriend who he thinks is absolutely fantastic, which is, you know, just ridiculous of 15. But as it goes, you know, what can you do? So yeah, I'm sticking up with that one I definitely think he thought he'd get it back by now but you know he should have gave in the mock exam which is important because he's doing this is his final year in school and he had to do a certain mock exam and had to be handed in so basically he bullshitted me and his mother and said yeah it doesn't have to be in yeah then the school phone does my back goes up fucking little so what the school must think the school must think the school the school school school school school school school school school school school school school school school school school school school is the school school is the school school is the school school is the school school is the school school school is the school school school is the school is the school school school school is the school is the school school school is the school school school school school school the school. the school. the school. the school is the school. the school. the school. the school. the school. the school. the school. the school. the school. the school. the school. the school. the school. the school. the school. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their sc. their sc. their their sc. their sc. their s. the school must think, ah the outfellow must think hard, don't worry we've got it sorted, no I'm not like that at all. I'm actually, I think school's very important

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advanced than me, then he's going to be the best for me, he's going to be brilliant. Hopefully you're saying this out, but the other kids won't see. I'm looking back at the door see. I'm telling me my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my project the project. the project. the project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my my my project, my my project, my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my, my, my, my my my my, my, my, my, my, my, my my th. the project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project. the project. the project. the project. the project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project, my project will, I the project will, I the project will project will, I project will, I project will, I'm project, I'm project, I'm that. We'll play this back in 18 years time and we'll see. This will be in the documentary. The champion of a countdown, the champion of the chas the champion of football, golf, this could be anything. Amazing. Well good a lot of it, thank you so much. Thank you so much. Really enjoyed this. It's been great. Thank you man. It was brilliant. It was brilliant. It was a pleasure, boys. Tony Bellew, Josh, I need to apologize if I got a bit to boxing nerdy there.

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for boxers. It's just insane what they do. And it annoys me little, but they don't get the respect. The-I their their their their their their the respect th. th. th. th. th. thu thu thu it thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. their the. their their the fitness level you need to be outrageous and the technique of actually boxing, the actual punched in the face and the toughness of it is not, you know, that important. I did some boxing training Rob, years ago for fitness. Oh yeah, not for not for not the week under my belt. I had a couple of bouts, off Rob. I did it for the Olympics but then I just started on fitness. Once I got to mock the week under my belt I thought I don't know whether I need my boxing anymore.

Do you know what the most difficult bit fitness wise is? You've got to be on your toes the whole time. I know that sounds like the calf muscles I know. The calf muscles you need to be try all your listeners try bouncing around on your toes, forward and back for a minute now, and it is absolutely brutal. Yeah, so if you do that, right? So don't just, no being punched or throwing a punch, but bouncing your toes for 12 lots of three minutes.

And you'll be physically sick. So imagine, while doing that, throwing punches, getting punching in the head and avoiding a pun. It's like a dance, a choreography and I don't think, because it's like a working class sport, it's not, it's sort of just deemed just two blokes fine. It never gets the respect it deserves. But eat that aside, wonderful bloke Tony Bell you, and what an interesting interview, which it's so different the type of people we get on the show. It's quite similar. It Perry. Can I ask a question about it? Because I didn't want to, I should have asked. When he says slap, slap them on the ass. Does he mean slap them on the ass? I think it's a turn of phrase really, but I do think potentially, I don't, well I don't, well

I don't think you actually, I don't think he I think it means a bit of a bollockin, a bit of you're being told off now type of thing rather than the... Slap on the ass is a bit more like a carry-on film isn't it? Yeah, well exactly. I implies that it's sort of like everyone's evacuee clothing just shuffling down a little pair of like a thick cotton shorts and a thick cotton shalt.... thick cotton, thick cotton, like, like, thick cotton, like, like, thick cotton, like, like, thick cotton, like, thick cotton, thick cotton, like, thick, like, thick, like, thick, like, thick, like, like a their their their thick, like, their thick, like, like, like, like, their thoom, their their their their their their their, a their, a their, a their, a their, a their, a their, a their, a their, a their, a their, a their, a the little hats and gowns. I'm imagining even chasing his kids around like Benny Hill. That's how I'm imagining it. Well no, yeah, so I don't know if he it means it like that, we'll have to clarify on that, but I remember watching a documentary about him on Sky Sports about his boxing. I remember him brushing his teeth and I remember thinking, they are the most aggressively clean teeth I've ever seen in my life..... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, I'm, yeah, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm thi, I'm thi, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm th. Yeah, I'm thi. Yeah, I'm thi. Yeah, I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm that's, I'm that's, I'm that's thi's thi. Yeah, I'm thi. Yeah, I'm thi. Yeah, I'm seen in my life. I've made a Tony Bell, you're brushing your teeth. But he's a lovely man and he loves his kids to absolute pieces and his wife and it's yeah, it's great to have him on. But yeah, it's so different in that, you know, but those different backgrounds where

he probably thinks he's being really soft on his kids. Yeah. Yeah. And that was the, imagine walking past him on that golf course. Bladie Lowe, six foot four, six foot three, just cuddling and slapping each other. They must have thought it would arouing over the golf score. Yeah, there's someone there who's taken and dropped ball when they shouldn't. That kind of situation. Someone shouting from whole three. You're only cheating yourself. The book is called Everyone's Got a Plan until you punch them in the face.

Until you get punched in the face. Oh yeah, of course, till you get punched in the face. Yeah, he got it wrong. So, um... But, um... I'm wrong. That he planned to say it right. Um, it's available for pre-order.

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