Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S02 EP38: Am I being a Karen?

Episode Date: June 1, 2021

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL'S02 EP38: Am I being a Karen?More misadventures in parenting and beyond...Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks - Rob and Josh xIf you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @lockdownparent INSTAGRAM: @lockdown_parentingA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills. Each episode will be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you the listener with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing. Hello and welcome to lockdown parent in hell with... Can you say... Rob Beckett? It's quiet. Sorry, sorry.

I'll be honest with you. No, well, I'll be honest with you. Please. The sound was very low on my phone because at 2 a.m. I was trying to watch Instagram stories of people having a good time while my wife did a 2 a.m. feed. This bank holiday has been absolutely wonderful for people without children. Oh mate, I cannot believe, I mean, what is my life come to?

That I am sat, we will get to this. We will get to the intro, John. But it's 2 a.m. And I'm sat watching Diana Vickers on her roof garden getting pissed on Rose singing songs and I'm thinking that's the life I want. I don't want that life Rob. But Josh, do you know what we did on Saturday? We went to see a friend, we haven't seen for ages because you're allowed to go to people's houses aren't you? And you're not to stay over now as well aren't you? Oh? Is it? He's in a key a a a the key a the key a the key the key the key. Key. Key. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's. It's. It's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to stay over now as well, aren't you? Oh, is it? Keys in the bowl, eh? No, it wasn't like that. But we weren't planning on staying over. We just took the kids, we just, a date, we had some snacks and their iPads for like the journey and stuff,

and if they've got a bit bored at the house, because our friends don older we went yeah they'll be all right so we popped to into bed about seven with their iPads in the spare room and we sat in the garden and got pissed. Jesus whapped and then the next day we woke up and drove home and it was fine apart from there was a nightmare in the middle of the night but we'll get on to that let's do the intro I'll tell you what let's do the intro and then I'll just need to talk to you about my hatred of bank holidays. This is not the contents of a book isn't it we've done the content. There's also a Lego emergency coming up and yeah am I a Karen which has his new feature oh and tongue tie as well

tongue tie oh wow what a show I actually I'm going to say it what I described to say it, what I described to Rose, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday last week as the three worst days of my life. Okay, right. Well, let's see the intro and start with that. Can you say Rob Beckett? And can you say Josh Whittakum? Good boy. There you go. That is Oliver, who's three in July. Also find attached, this is from Vicky and Yorkshire, Oliver recording me doing the intro. You say Rob Beckett.

Good boy. Good boy. There we go. She's got a lovely voice, the mum. When she was getting them to do it, because I think she actually outshone her son there. Yeah, Vicky. Vicky, that was great, great names, great delivery and happy birthday in July, Oliver when you're three. So Rob.

Yes, talked to me about the bank holiday for a start. Yeah, what was lovely weather, wasn't it? Yeah. Well, wewewewewewewe we we we we we we we we we we we we we we were we were we were we were we were we were we were we were we were we were we were we were we were we were we were recording th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. th. th. th. th. holiday for a start. Yeah, what is lovely weather wasn't it? Uh, yeah. Well, we're recording this on the Monday morning, and it's a bit gloomy, but I think it's gonna brighten up. Yeah, I'm not gonna brighten up, but it's gonna brighten up. Um, yes, I found out on Friday that it was a bank holiday, Rob. Because really bank holidays, when you're self-employed comedian, they're they're a they're a they're a they're a they're a they're a they're a they're they're th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th thin. th th th th th thiiiiiiiii. th th thi. thi. thi. it's a fucking hammer blow to my life. Because really, bank holidays, when you're self-employed comedian, they're awful because Monday's our Saturday. Yeah, exactly.

Monday's our chill day, so then it's busy everywhere. So it's sort of like, because when you don't do a normal 9-to-5, a bank holiday does upset the sketch, and especially if you got a newborn. As a parent of a newborn, I'd say, nursery. Oh, Josh, can I just stop you there? Anyone that I've ever heard say that I immediately hate? Okay, as a parent of a new, I know I hate myself. No, but I know you're doing it and I'd like you. But you know that thing, because it slips into that thing that we don't do and you don't do, you, you, you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you don't, you, and you don't, and you, and th, as, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th... that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that we don't do and you don't do you go as a parent speaking as a parent yeah yeah but you are speaking as a I think I let you off as a newborn but it's when they get to like eight months and they go you know

with a newborn you know it's not a newborn anymore well let me let me let me rephrase it if you've got a newborn yeah like you have I'd say I'd say and you're speaking as a nursery as the guardian as the guardian as a guardian as a guardian as a guardian as the guardian as the guardian of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of the guardian of the guardian of the guardian of the guardian of the guardian of the guardian of the guardian of the guardian of the guardian of the the the guardian of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. the. the. the. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. the. the. the. the. the the guardian, the guardian of that newborn. I'd say with my unique perspective that I've got through breeding. Your superior view? I'm superior view to you without, with your like your childless dick you've got over there. I don't about you mate but I've been spunking out babies here. Yeah, exactly, right, you've been having lions. You say well you're happy and you're not tired, yeah? Well I'm not that, okay? And now I'm speaking. Oh man, I'm tired. Sorry Josh. Let me just digress into how tired I am wrong. I had to do a Google Hangouts call. Oh, no.

What for? To discuss the cover for my book. Yeah. Which is obviously pictures of me after I've crashed dieted for six weeks and covered in makeup. I look great. Okay. All right. So you've had the photo shoot, you look good. Yeah, I'd done this a while ago, right. And also, on my hair cut, you know, I look like the best I could look.

The best you could be. The best I could look. So you basically are in possession of our photo of the best Josh Widcombs ever looked. Because that was pre-baby as well, wasn't it? Yeah, it was pre-baby. It was about March. I turned on the Google Hangout out. And my editor said, no offence, but you look terrible. That's why they work in books. You can't do that to a TV guy. Yeah, this might be fine with John Grisham.

He said you're terrible. So, well no, but he wasn't wrong because you could see, he was sharing screen. And you could see on the one hand, it was like a before and after. On the one side, because he was looking at the cover. Because the cover, oh no. And then at the other was this puffy guy with like hair that's got too long. So it started curling at the back. And like, I was sat in a cafe that was badly lit, that wasn't helping it. Yeah, blame the cafe, classic tea then.

I'm the cafe. And I just thought, yeah, bang to rights. I'm fucked. It's the first time in my life I've actually, I think, looked really tired. Do you know what I mean? I used to... Yeah, well, speaking if you that was a private hangout because you know when the Guardian picture went and I did get text asking me if I had some sort of illness that I was covering up. Yeah yeah but I understand how you feel because if you get caught on the wrong day it's a bit I feel

like the front cover of your books gonna be like on those weight loss dvdys. I should say the picture we went with was me wearing a big pair of jeans holding it out to show that. All the way. So what is the cover going to be? What I can't say. We're men are, men who do like a cover reveal on Instagram. Yeah, I totally get that and I've got to do one of them, but the reality is who

cares? No one gives a fuck no. But you can't just bang the thaph. tha. tha. tha. the book. tha. tha, th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, thin'. thin'. thin'. th. th. th. to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, tho, to, to, the to, to, the to, to, to, to, to, the the their, their, their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. tho. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. the the the the the the book people do. But you can't just bang it out now because I'll ruin it. Do you know, Rob? Have I said that we will move on for the book? I'm sorry, but if you're just but, I'm gonna say it, I'm gonna say it, and then I'll move on. What's the Sunday time yesterday? Was your neck getting a bit loose, was it? So, th, th, th, th, th, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to to, to to to, to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. tho. tho. thooooooooooooooooooooooooo. thoooooooooooo. too. too. tothe osteopath? Because I'd already went the observer on the app, Rob. Okay.

I was looking at the book charts, Rob. Oh yeah. Oh, you're, see, this is a problem. You're very competitive, Josh. No, I just want to make it into the top 10 so I can say, Bin. All you need to sell seven non-fiction, the number seven non-fiction is just called the Anglo-Saxons. If I can't sell more than a book called the Anglo-Saxons, the thing is in my world, Josh,

with all this free content, please. Just pre-order it now, I want to beat the Anglo-Saxons. If I told people that I've got the Sunday Times bestsellers, they won't, thaged, th And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thi.. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi, thi, thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, thi, thi, their, their, thi. And, thi. thi. thi. thi. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tha, thld people that I've got the Sunday Times best sellers. They don't really care or know what that was, but someone said, oh, saw you in Morrison's on the shelf the other day. That's my nebworth. Yeah, yeah, fair enough. Anyway, do buy the book, please, guys. I think it's because you're tired, you feel vulnerable, and you're knackered. Bank holiday. Fucking out. So you found out it was a bank holiday on the Friday? How did you know? The nursery is the only thing keeping my head above water at this stage from.

So you, so they obviously said, you went, I'll see you on Monday and they went, no, you well they sent out an email. I'm going to say it also. Having Monday is one of your nursery days is a complete an utter rip-off. Yes, you should never go for a Monday. Never go from... Wednesday. You get about a third of them lost to bloody bank holidays or, you know, all kinds of nebulous kind of government-approved days off that I don't get a day off.

So at least, so she's backing on the Tuesday. Yeah, but today, oh, it's fine. It's just, it's very difficult to go two two two two two two two to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to to to to to to to to to tooom tooom to to to tooom tooom tooom. tooomomomom. tooom, oh, it's fine. It's just, it's very difficult to go two on one, as I found in the middle day of the three worst days of my life. Yeah, so why were they so bad? So Wednesday, it's a Tuesday night, he was awake from... Do you know you're not making sense a lot of the time? Yeah, no, I was just saying... I don't know either I'm not sort of getting your head and picking up on it but you went on Wednesday and then you went so Tuesday night

yeah we don't know happen what I went so you just go we're going back from Tuesday night okay. It'll blurs into one I suppose because Tuesday night becomes Wednesday quite quick thin it with a new ball, yeah, well that's what happened right so Wednesday it's on the Monday right? Sorry. Really tired. On the Monday we had our appointment with the guy who said that my son had tongue tie. So we got the appointment 8.30 a.m. on the Wednesday. Is that on zoom or you're going you're going somewhere? To add a real feeling that it was an important, it was a great or almond street of all places. Oh my god, so that's an early start out of the house and then yeah But you're like leaving the house I have seven to go to doctor Yeah, yeah, set the alarm half six

I've never done this before yeah I slept through the alarm. Oh no That's how tired I've never done that in my life. That's the worst thing the worst thing about a no But they're up all night and then they go asleep. They're they're asleep. I I I I I I go asleep. They go asleep they're they're they're they're they're they're they're up they're up they're up their they're up they're up they're up their they're up their they're up they're up their their they're up their asleep I'll go asleep. they're up all all asleep I'll sleep asleep I'll sleep asleep I'll sleep I'll they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're up they're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They go go go go go go go go they're up. They're up. They're up. They're up. They're they're they're they're they'll be up and then they can't sleep at five you're going to sleep through the alarm. Sleep through the alarm, wake up at quarter past seven. Oh fuck. Have to absolutely peg it to get everything together, right? Awful. Awful. Awful stress. If you start the day late, the day's done in my book. Rose, not delighted with me at this stage at the game. Because I suppose you're in charge of sort of getting up and getting out because she's doing the feed. I must have in my sleep press snooze as well, Rob.

I just, I must have been pressing snoo without realizing. So is this, let me get, is the sort of responsibility split up at the moment is she's obviously breastfin so you're sort of, the night feed so the threats, so the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I, I th, I th, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I must, I'm, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I must, I sort of a bit more in charge of the date I'm doing the night changes. Okay yep so then we peg it to the car right you've got to arrive 15 to 20 minutes early yeah it's basically a race against the satnav across London how long to drive it's it's 30 minutes oh that's a bit in London and it's one of those things where we were due there at 825, which I think would have been fine. So you're in the car and they sat now saying 825 and it's an 830 appointment. It's an 830 appointment. But you can park outside 20 minutes earlier.

Yeah, so you're already late. Already late, right? Yeah, and it's 20 miles with you Rob, because I'm boring. For the last two months, I've, every time we've driven through it, I've been telling Rose how brilliant I think the new traffic flow system is on old street roundabout. To the point where she's had to say you've got to stop talking about it. Do you know, there's always a criticism to comedians that always end up sounding like Alan Partridge. But I think all men end up sound like Alan Partridge. That's why he's such a good character. You know what I mean? If you're a male comedian, it doesn't matter if you're a comedian or what?

You will end up sounding the comedian or what the way? So you're loving the traffic flows this role. They've reinvented the roundabout. They've reinvented the roundabout. The road wheel. A roundabout is all good though, aren't they? You know, you look at it and you think that this would have been an absolute fucking mess wouldn't it about this big circle in the middle? You would have a fault, taking up more space would have made it easier. Rob, have a go on Old Street roundabout.

They basically, they've cut I'd probably do on a board Sunday. Go to Old Street Roundabout? Yeah, and then just pretend I'm going up there to go to Brick Lane Bagels, but we all know I'm there for the roundabout, but I'm trying to justify the journey. It's like the first time I used the thing where you can walk at a diagonal across Oxford Street. That kind of thrown. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thrown. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi's thrown. thrown. that's thin. thin. Yeah. tho. tho. thoing. thoen. thoen. thi. thi. thi. thi. Yeah. tha. Yeah. Yeah. tha. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. Yeah. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. absolute human free-for-all. We just go. We just all go. When it's green, we all go. They have the traffic has the stock for us. We all go. It's the exact time, baby. I'm not going back to university to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber one for students.

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backing of American Express. Terms and conditions apply. Visit Amex. to the SAC. You're on the way. 825s on the set now-we're like we've got to phone them right on the hands free right at that point realize Great Onlm Street's actually quite a big hospital I've got no idea which bit we're in yes oh yeah so it takes four separate phone calls as we're driving as the time's going up to find the right wing to get in tou the with. The lack of sleeps an issue as well, isn't it? You're not thinking straight. The panic. The panic. And the time is now looking at about 832, 833. And then, then I give the phone to Rose and so she can look at, look to see where there's an email, right? At that point it drops for 10 minutes for no reason, back to the thirty thir. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And thirty. And thirty. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, and thi. And, and the time. And, the time, and the time, and the time, and the time, and the time, and the time, and the time, the time, the time, the time, the time, the time, the time, the time, the time, the time, the time, the time, the time, the time, the time, the time. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, the time, the time, thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And, the time, thi. And the time, the time, the time, the time, the time. And, thi, finally, the gods have turned it. I don't know what's happened. Something's cleared up. Something's cleared up. At that point, she looks at the email and reads that it's, I haven't read this obviously,

because I haven't read it properly, that she needs to bring in photo ID and proof of address. I mean, to say that point was a low moment in my life was. Why, if the child's tie, tie, tied tied, tied, tied, thired, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, the tho, the they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, they, that, they, that, they, that, to to to to that, to to to to to that, that, to to to the th? If the child's got tongue tie, you're not stealing a baby to get a tongue tie's cut. We're not those kind of people. Also, we did steal a baby, you wouldn't take it back to the hospital, would you? Exactly. I'd let it have tongue-omorrow just to pay it in. Yeah can I stick it into that account please thank you? I know you you might do. So eventually we get there

at 5, 825 yeah get it in it's fine they we've got Rose's mom to take a photo of her passport she goes in I park up I go to Starbucks and sit and wait. Because obviously I can't go in. I'm not allowed in. Not allowed in. Yeah, because my friends, she's overdue and her husband had to sit outside the hospital while she was waiting for blood tests and stuff because she might be induced or it might have to be a C-section. And I'm like, I've literally been drinking pints about eight people I don't even know and he can't sit in a waiting room with his pregnant wife is mad isn't it? I'll be honest though Rob that that that

ten minutes in Starbucks was the most I've ever relaxed. Okay all right you're you're in favor of a because I text you on Friday was this and I was like to be a. I'm trapped in traffic to Manchester for seven hours and then you you just replied don't pretend it's not amazing the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the to to the the the the the the to to the. threec. I'm that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's too. that's that's toe. toe. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. I th. I's th. I's th. I's the the the the the the the the the the tee. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. tea. I's. I'm. tea. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I'm., oh, this is a nightmare. I'm stuck in this car for seven hours. And then you just replied, don't pretend it's not amazing. And I was like, that is a man on the edge. You know you're fucked when you are jealous of someone being in traffic for seven hours on the M6, but that you would have swapped for me. But you enjoyed Starbucks.

I enjoyed Starbucks. the tongue tie cut it was much worse so it definitely was tongue time they got it done that yeah he said it was much worse than you than that we'd been told and it would have affected the speech oh wow so that's a positive yeah that's a huge positive get the tongue tie cut Rose comes out we then went to the chemist we No it wasn't. And then Rob, I realized on the way home. I like Portillo, I don't know why. He just absolutely slams everyone. I don't always agree with what he says, but he absolutely ruins people. And if you watch Markle Portillo, slamming people on this week. It's so good, even if you don't agree to thrown they. He really goes in hard. He really goes, he's really goes, he's really goes, he's to thi. He's thi. He's th. He's to th. He's to to th. He's to to to to th. He's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, I, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I their, I their, I their, I th. I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th just absolutely destroys him and it's little, you sort of think, well you've got a big big smiley head, like a lion, you're probably nice. Absolutely savages them. But he's so politely,

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I was like, well can't you just be like when Pauline's here? Yes, the public-fated attitude of a partner in a crisis when there's other people there is totally different than when it's one-on-one. Yes. You should just keep the conversation going with Pauline. Yeah, I should say, Paulin, what's your bin set up? How many bins have you come for lunch, Pauling? Come for lunch, Pauling.

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what am I going to do? Pay him for this situation. No, I'm on your side. I think I, oh no, Josh. So did you go for lunch? Did you wait for the locksmith? Well, we were going for lunch very nearby. Okay. Yeah. Is it nice enough?

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Let's get those people out of our life. And if me not sending their kid a birthday card means I'm a way out of their life, I'm all for that. But I do, I do accept the point where I think sometimes the stereotypes mean that I think there's a lot of heterosexual men that don't really think about all that kind of stuff, but then one's flip side of that is some of the stuff doesn't need to be worried about, yeah, I think, and I probably get told off for this by the mental load lobbyists. I would say though I've got a lot, I've got a lot of need to a lot of needless mental load that I've created myself for myself. Well I think anxiety can feed thiiiiiii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to get to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th th is th is th is th is tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. I tho. I thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. to do this because that's the right thing to do or we need to do this because that's

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go, thank God, this is now my job. Because if I was doing this and not talking about it on a podcast, I do not know how I would deal with this. What I was going to say is well, John, we've had the tongue tie, the tongue does tie stop breastfeeding then? Is that what the argument is? Or it doesn't help? It doesn't. Yeah, it means, well, it can mean various different things like, but it makes it difficult for the child to breastfeed. Because I've been sent reams and reaem, the information,, and I agree, it is great, but all I'm saying is everyone's are grown up and allowed to do what they want to do and don't judge them.

They've all been well informed and let people do it. I won't judge you for what you do, don't judge me, and it worked for us. And the Tommy Tipping Machine the Tommy TV machine helped. If anyone's listening to this because they were going, oh you do a parenting podcast, people take what you say seriously, more for them. Do not take advice from me on breastfeeding or bottle feeding. All I can do is tell you what we did. I'm not giving advice, you're not giving advice. I would say if I've learned anything from this podcast, it is don't live your lives like us.

Yes, exactly. And if you think that I'm with some sort of courage, you're fucking mental. And this podcast, at least you worry is, who else you're going to be listening to? Who else you're going to be listening to? Do you know what I mean? Can I start this new feature? Yeah. How does she go into your advice from? Do you know what I mean? Can I start this new feature? Called am I being a Karen?

Okay, yes. Because you know, I think sometimes the Karen is, the Karen is, normally it's a middle-aged woman, isn't it, that's sort of quite, yeah, if you give a definition of what the Karen is, what would you say a Karen is? termed head for 50 year old woman that sort of got a bit of money and there isn't much, she hasn't got many problems in her life because it's all going quite well that a little thing that no one really should care about makes him kickoff like if you park in front of the house

like something like that and then they have to speak to a manager and it's all quite privileged and all that and it's sort of like a caricature of that kind of person right and it. and it's that for women almost, isn't it? Really. And but also being a Karen now, I think any gender can be a Karen if you're being a ta'n'er. If you're being a moany or being a bit, oh I don't think that's right, okay? So this is the feature, am I being a Karen? I think it's a pretty good, um, yes. Good thing. So, thatthe's the feature. th. th. th. Am. th. th. th. that. thi is is a feature. Am. Am. thi is a feature. Am. Am. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. th. th. th. th. th. thin. thin. thin. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th. Oh, oh, oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, I. Oh, th. Oh, I. And, th. And, th. And, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. New feature. Right, so there's this on my walk to school, there's this lady that has a big sort of like bike with a massive box on the front of it that you can get like four kids in with helmets and like seat belts and it's a bit like a Swedish or Scandinavian big bike, right? Yeah, transport kids. So it's huge this thing. It's probably about as wideer than a motorbike, right? Because it comes out of the front.

It's having a side car on the front of this bike. So she takes her kids to nursery with her kids strapped in it of a helmet, all good, but on the pavement. Oh, so right, and she's going slow, to be fair and very steady, and she's going to be fair and very steady, and she's the to be..... busy bit of road because a bit of busy pavement because people are coming and going from the school all the time because there's a nursery and a school and she's lovely and she's very smile back because ring ring ring excuse me please and I'm just like you've got to be on the bike's on the

bike's on the pavement I didn't care as much when I wasn't having, didn't have a three-year-old that could, you know, you feel like the pavement is your safe place for your child. Yes. Do you have people on electric scooters on the pavement, Rob? Um, no, not really. They've been on the road, but there's not as many around it as their own. Yeah, they are all over the pavement around me. No that's bad. It's bad. It's bad. It's got an engine. But I don't think, yeah, I don't think you're being a car and Rob. No, but I just think it's a bit,

but I think maybe mention it to her because it doesn't really impact me. I don't even walk on that side of the road. It's difficult. But I'm just like, get on the road you lunn. It's. It's. It's, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, I th th th th th th th th thin, I thin, I don't thin, I don't thin, I don't thin, I don't thin, I don't thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin, I don't thin, I don't thin, I don't thin, I don't th th th th th th th th th th th, I don't th, I don't th, I don't th, I don't th, I thin, I thin, I don't thin, I don't thin, I don't thin, I don't thin, I don't thin, I don't thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, it's cute, it's like a sofa on the front of a bike. That sounds lovely. She could do in tuck-tuck rides. It sounds like so Mr. Bean would drive. Yeah, exactly, with his bear in it, with a helmet on. And everyone is just like, smithing along. But anyway, if you've got any more am I being a Karen's, let us let us know and we'll judge. I'm not being a the the the the the the the the the the the the the to be the t. t. tap. tap. tap. tap. tuck. tuck. tuck. tuck. tuck. tuck. tuck. tuck. tucker. tucker. tuck. tuck. tucked. to tucked. tucked. It's. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do... Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's t. t. t. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t. tuck. tuck. t but some things you think oh am I being am I being a bit of a Karen there but so I'm not being a Karen that's fair but maybe mention it to a woodrovers step the mark. It doesn't actually impact my life. No and it's difficult to mention isn't it? Well it's just going too quick. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. What'm a new first-time dad of identical triplet girls. Oh boy. Can you imagine? What would you dad? Do you now varnish to differentiate

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have a pub lunch. Parents would place orders in advance and included all the pub classics like pies and fish and chips. We would all sit next to the local old men who were drinking in the day while we ate. Thanks to the great podcast, Alice. Was that every day? No, she says a different class every day. So I don't know what they were doing for the other four days of the week. Presumably you were on packed four days of the week and then each class got the treat of going to the pub once a week.

That feels like a bit of insider trading from the pub, that, yeah, it does feel like, imagine, Imagine Rob, you're going through a messy breakup and you think, I'm just gonna go for a drink at lunchtime today. Drown my sorrows. You sit down in the pub with your pint and then 10 children walk in to eat their lunch. God. Or imagine it was you with Starbucks. Oh my God, my 10 minutes of Starbucks. Are you going to do any baby classes, Josh?

Maybe, I don't know. I haven't really thought about it. To be honest, I can't imagine getting beyond this period, which is every two hour wake up at the moment. Oh, God. When does this bit end? I think it's ages. Oh, gee, no.

For it's months. No, it's not. But then if you get a bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad years. Yeah, I know. Mine are sleeping through the night now, like they have done for a little while because they're five and three. When will I get to four hours? I think to get to like an eight hour, like, you may not get eight out of sleep because you don't go asleep as soon as they go asleep. But if you go about 10 10, and they wake up at 6 or 7, I think you're looking at 2 more years until that point. No. I think so. No. So you'll have a 2 year and 6 year.

No, this is not. You're absolutely playing. I'm not, no, for a proper, because I've only just started doing that now. six months to a year because she's three and our youngest it's about yeah about two to three years we can put them down and be loud and not worrying about chow wait the baby and then we'll go sleep and get a good unbroken six seven hours or whatever what about all about yeah I'm gonna set my size lower four hours in a chunk I reckon you're looking at probably four to six months old no really what how old your baby now three weeks I feel like we're in prison and you've not accepted the fact you've got a six-year stretch.

And you're like, no, probably surely the parole. There'll be some sort of, you know, don't politicians sometimes with these people. Can I not appeal against this, Ralph? Have you got any more emails or anything? No, you go for it. Did it. Hi guys, just watching, just just just just just just Allen is on and chatting about his lack of furniture and his wait for sofas. It was suggested that he should get a Shays Longe and their Shays Lounge. to which he agreed and he said, where would I get a Shays lounge? I immediately thought of Josh Rose and they're got filled bedroom.

You need to hook if he wants it. He'd absolutely fucking love it. Text him and sell it to him. Yeah, I will. He's really polite. You can sell him anything. It will just do it out. He's absolutely effing loaded, Rob. He's got nothing to spend his money on. I went around his house and his options were go to sleep or stand up. furniture situation. Hi Rob and Josh, first you love the podcast.

It's definitely helped me for a tough year. This one's from L.J. In regards to Josh requested help with winding, you said you're struggling to wind, you're a three-week-old. I'm shocked he's still struggling as a stiff neck is key. Keeping the baby's neck back straight and elevated, I've always found helpful. I love this is what a nice person does person to to constantly quantify it by going, in my experience because everyone's got an opinion on parenting, but I like the way L.J's done that. I've always found it helpful, so keep the neck and back straight and elevated. Also a lot of time and persistence.

My daughter now 11 was an absolute nightmare to win that we had to sit with her on our knee, which was raised up, have a hand holding her head up, and arms slightly raising it at the same time, a ball late to stay the least. So it was on the knee slightly raised, arm up and head up. So I feel, it feels like it's almost like picking a lock, Josh. You've just got to work out what works for you. But keeping a neck and back straight. You're intentionally twisting the knife on the guy that couldn't pick my lock there Rob. Yeah, the man that broke into your house and charged you 300 could. Yeah, yeah, of course. The man that broke your door and charged you for $300

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