Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S02 EP5: Michael Sheen

Episode Date: February 5, 2021

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL' S02 EP5: Michael SheenJoining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) during the lockdown and beyond is the brilliant actor, Michael Sheen. Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks. xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @lockdownparent INSTAGRAM: @lockdown_parentingA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello, I'm Josh Riddickham. And I'm Robb. Welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hell. The show in which Rob and I discuss what it's like to be a parent during lockdown, which I would say can be a little tricky. So in an effort to make some kind of sense of the current situation. And to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills. Each episode will be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you the listener with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing.

Hello and welcome to lockdown parenting hell with... Well Rob, I'll stop you there because we've got a very special one. Oh, yeah, very special intro. It's not. It's not, is it? It's only, um, well let's see. Welcome to lockdown parenting with Josh with the Com and Robert's Begain. Auveau. There we go. Oh my god, I think I'm gay now. It's unbelievable, isn't? The timber of the voice cuts through you like a kind of knife.

So that's the guy that works at your daughter's nursery? I know that's a two-year-old. He's called... They're very full with the French. Yeah, yeah, that is Saran who works at my daughter's nursery, who there's a lot of excitement about on the Instagram yes can I hear him again please properly can I give me his full glory yeah of course welcome to lockdown parenting with Josh with the Com and Robert Spickey Auvoir the horror of our eyes I mean is French just a sexy accident generally or is that a sexy French there is no way he is not putting a bit of extra French on that. No, he knows what he's doing. That can't be how he talks day-to-day.

Also, it's too much, imagine that. Like... You can't be doing that in a nursery, right? Yeah, exactly. Would you like a balloon animal? A dog or a cat? Too much! Was that good? Was that good? Was that French impression? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, welcome to lockdown parenting hell. Which Josh Wider come? Robert Beckett. Is that sexy? Yeah, it was quite sexy. Yeah, I liked it. I think it's good to get the message off him. I imagine it'll fly on the social media. Oh, yeah. Can you hear my daughter kicking off Rob? Oh, what? She's. We's. We we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Welcome, th. Welcome, th. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. to, to, to, to, to, to, th. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. to, to, to, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, th. to, to, th. to, to, th. th. to, th. to, th. th. th. Oh yeah. Can you hear my daughter kicking off, Rob? Oh, right. So we're doing this, what about?

Was it 8 p.m. now? this... Oh, can you hear that? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. so. Two below? Two below?

Yeah. Well, the week? Well this is because she's had a one and a half hour sleep this afternoon. Oh no. She's not even napping anymore. So absolute carnage. Oh God that doesn't sound good does it Rob? Oh my word. What time did she go for a nap? Well we'll work it back I think it's a long story. So last night well it's a long story just how quite how bad my Monday was. What day are we on now we're recording on Tuesday. Yes. So I'll take you through the Monday,

wake up so I don't know what was bad about that but it was bad. Oh your phone's going. That's yeah that's Rose. What she said? She's just luckily it's on a group. It's not a direct text. Oh I'm going to say because that is so bad must be happening if you're because this is technically work for you and you you technically work Rob you were in the process of doing some of bedtime that's why we started later because you said she should be down by now by then so if she directly text you say I need your help now I think that's a bit harsh but on a group what what she said to the group well on the group someone else has put that they're having a bad bad time roses but they're having a bad bad bad times I've got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got the the the the the the the the their go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they. their they. their their they. their their they's their they's their their top of the stairs. Also, once they're party trains, they make you take them from matron, we wheeze and pooze a million times. Yeah, we're going through a real delaying tactic situation here, Rob.

Oh, she's back. We have that of the three-year-old, our is crying. So talk to her Monday, it was bad. Bad on it. I mean, this is a stressful way to record a podcast, Rob. But I suppose if there's any podcast in the UK, you're going to record in this situation. This is the one. It feels like, you know, when like, I-TV. Have like a guy on the ground in a war zone, and you've just got like a press. to the press. the press. the press. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to be. the to be. the the press. the the press. their. their. their. to be. their. their. their. their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I've. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, th. So, th. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. I. So, the. I. like podcasting in live podcasting in action. Oh my god this is so stressful but I just have to plow on which feels you feel bad. What can I feel bad? What can I feel bad? I think you're probably got the best part of this? That's why I feel bad. Yeah, but don't feel bad. Would you not be feeling slightly guilt? I should be enjoying this moment? Yeah because you know at some point Rose will just be somewhere else doing something and you'll be dealing with it. Yeah, yeah, okay. Do you know what I mean? It's like you can't spend any positive time feeling guilt. Yeah, you know what I mean? You can't take the positivity when you can. And I'm sure if this is a horrendous bedtime, you'll be the one getting up in the night. Yes, not not wrong. the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. Yeah. they. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. they. Yeah. Yeah. they. Yeah. they. Yeah. Yeah. they. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.................................................................................. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. t. t. t. the. t. the. t. the. the. t. wrong. Not wrong. A trade-off? Well, no, we'd both be getting up in the night, actually.

We will both, well, we'll come to that, right? Why do you both get up? Well, last night, well, I will come to that, Rob. Okay, sorry, sorry. You actually do sound stress because you're getting a little bit short with me. It's because I'm only half listening. It's bad, isn't it? Go ahead, go, you tell us what happened. So I woke up yesterday morning, exercise, first thing. That's good. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to do that every morning, right? And then it was just one of those days where you know when you're trying to get stuff done,

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Yeah, I didn't drink enough. I looked like I've got stigmata, right? Oh, he's not Lance Armstrong, just getting another, you know, the leader of the good stuff out. I couldn't even get five mills. Couldn't get five mills out of my body. Yeah, so I sat there for 45 minutes. to thrown. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I's th. I's th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. theea. to to toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. tha. tha. ththe whole thing took an hour once I'd failed to produce blood. It was like stage fright. It was awful, right? So then I'm behind already, but I'll just go down, eventually get upstairs at about half 11. I sit down and literally at that moment Rose Texan. And she's like, have you got that, um, there's a bit of broken glass that was gaffer taped to some shelving, right? Okay. Because I'm worried the clean or throw it away and we tidied this room the day before. Why do you want the broken glass?

Or to fix it? Fix it? Okay, yeah. And I thought I threw that away literally yesterday when I was tiding that room. Oh absolute absolute absolute absolute absolute absolute. when I was tidying that room. Absolute disaster, right? And yeah, because we know Rose loves a knickknack and you know, and some some people's rubbish would be one of Rose's knickknacks. I'm like, I look for it, realize I've thrown it away. I've literally just sat down to do work. Next thing I know, I'm going through the bin bags. Hogan. Howe was the last time you went through a bin bagbininininininininin tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thr-a, thr-a, throw, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, throw, throw, throw, thin, thin, thin, thr-o, thi, thin, thin, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the. thi, tho. thi, the, the last time you went through a bin bag, I didn't think, you know, it's the kind of thing that would happen in a movie if you're a journalist or something, but I've

never actually done it, I don't think. No, I think, no, I don't think I've ever gone through a bin bag. Normally it's for like cash or jewelry or stuff like that. Lots of broken glass. So we go through the recycling one. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, it's tho, it's tho, it's tho, it's kind tho, it's kind th. th. th. th. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, the kind, the kind, the kind. Yeah, the kind. Yeah, the kind. Yeah, the kind. Yeah, tho, tho, tho, the tho. tho. the tho. the tho. the thoo. the tho. thooo. the the tho. the kind of tho. tho. tho. one first. Obviously, you're a good guy, you recycle? Of course, which is much nicer the recycling one to go through, so that's why I went through it first, and the hope to be in there. But who'd put gaffer tape in the recycling? Oh, I don't know. I don't know, a man that couldn't produce blood and is now not working and scamping around the recycling. Obviously my daughter's watching. Obviously there's some basically rushed off drawings that she's done Yeah, but we've got 400 of them so these ones have ended up in the recycling bed. Obviously she spots them. Yeah, I want some.

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Old days are right off by the end of the day, right? Yeah, you're late to involve it. Evening, go to bed, wake up at half midnight, like because I'm stressed. Okay. Then I'm lying there thinking about tomorrow. It's going to be right off as well. This is unbelievable. Okay, yeah, so you're in a bit of bad form. Yeah, it's got in your head.

Okay. daughter wakes up as well because she's got block nose. She's up till four. First and then we're like, what are we going to do? She's just awake. Yeah. We said, do you want to sleep in our bed? We've never, we've always offered that for three years she's never taken it. She only fucking took it. Oh no. What have you? You've opened Pandora's box? She didn't like it. Why is that? Did you keep pissing yourself in the... She didn't like the electric blanket. You got an electric blanket. No, I'm joking. Okay, sorry, you got me. You got me, I thought you had one.

It's a stiff-net thing to have an electric blanket. She turned it down. You got her in the bed. She didn't like it? Well, we had two hours of rubbish sleep until about six or seven. Oh God, so no one slept all night basically. No one slept all night basically. So in the morning, obviously she's not well, we think. So we're like, obviously, you don't go to nursery today, which point she fucking perks up. Okay. So you've canceled nursery. We've said to her, no, we haven't canceled it with nursery, but we've said to her, no we haven't cancelled it with nursery but we've said to her, don't go to nursery today, we're not going to send you to nursery today. And I don't think you should backtrack on that and then go, sorry we lied, see I later. Yeah of course, but she's perched up when she's heard she's not going. She's literally pushing all the chairs into a line in the kitchen to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the, the, the, tod, tod, tod, today, today, today, today, today, to to to today, today, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, we, we, we, we, we, we, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the today, their, their, their today, tod no nursery today. You're expecting her cold up on the sofa with an iPad watching films

and her favorite teddies doing nothing all day. Yeah, and what we've got is a fucking train in the kitchen. Anyway, then this afternoon, she falls asleep for an hour and a half on the sofa. Oh, okay, and now not going to bed. Also she pissed herself on the so. When she was she was she was she was she she she she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she's th. She, she's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. thia, she's thia' thioled, thoed, thoed, thoed, thoed, thoed, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thied. thi?ed. thi?ed. thed. thed, thed, thea, thea'ed. tooed, tooed, tooed, tooed, tooed. tooed, tooed, tooed, theauoed. thoed. th bed. Now not going to bed. Also, she pissed herself on the sofa. When she was asleep, because obviously she normally, she's still at the stage of sleeping in a nap peep.

So there go, but she does seem to quieten down now. Hopefully she's asleep or she's in your bed. Oh my God, I'm going to stay up here. I'm going to to university to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber 1 for students. It saves you on Uber and Uber eats. I'm there for zero dollar delivery fee on cheeseburgers, up to 5% off smoothies and 5% Uber cash back on rides.

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I think we should. Should we get, it's a great guest. I think we're going to enjoy it. We're going to enjoy this one. We have Michael Sheen, star of Frost Nixon, the Dam United. He's in good omens at the moment. Oh, it's a great guest. He's quite, it's quite unique. He's got like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, should tho, should thi, should tho, should to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th, should, should, should, should, should we th. We should we're, should we're, should we're, should th. We should, should th. We's, th, th. We's, th. We're, th. We're, th. We're, th. We're, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. We're thea. We're toda, toooooooooooo'a, tooooooooo. We're too. We're too, today, the. We're tannin. Yeah, he's a great guest. He's quite unique.

He's got like a grown-up daughter, there's like 20 and then like an 18 month old. So it's quite interesting seeing it from those two very opposite ends. So yeah, it's a great episode. I hope you enjoy it. And I hope you feel better soon, Josh, more sleep. Thank you. Hello Michael. This is is thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It th. It's. th. It's. It's. It's th. It's the. the. the. to to to toeeeeeeee. toeeea. toe'm very well, thank you, Joshua.

Hello, Robert. Oh, hello, Michael. This is very exciting to have you on. Because we've worked, I've worked with you on the movie show, the panel show. Yes. Not in any actual proper acting job, though. But it's stuffy to have one. I mean, you say that,ogether. Yes, we have. Yeah, that's right. Some would say the better version. Some wouldn't agree with that.

Also, we got quite sexy of each other, didn't we? That sort of went quite viral with your fans. They liked it, didn't they? Yeah. With the graduate and all that as well, yeah. You dressed up as the be on the end of. It's funny quite a few people have said that actually right. Hence this podcast. What is it is Michael when you just sat you know when you're on the panel show with you sort of having a laugh and it's just people joking around and talking

about stuff but then when you do the actual acting scenes it's so intimidating when you see somebody's so good at what they do at an absurdly good level and then you're just sitting like, oh no, it's my uncle Sheen's, he's doing, oh God, he's doing acting at me and I've got to say something back. That's the thing, isn't it, you're just chatting to me, but before you do a scene with you on that show you'll just be chatting. I remember we were chatting about Lloyd Langford, who's someone we both know from Port Talbot. And then, it was our old paper boy. You're old paper boy?

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You remember they still talk about it. Yeah, that's right. We're backstage, aren't we? We sort of spin around to do the scene. And we're in some ridiculous costume. around a little chat and then suddenly, see that's the problem. The stage revolves and there they say action and I, you know, old habits kick in. You're a different animal, different breed when I say action. It's quite a transformation. You remember about Daniel Day Lewis, you had to stay in character the whole way through a film. Michael Sheen's not even in character during the word action. Well, it's funny to say that because we mentioned Frost Nixon.

When I, whenever I see bits of Frost Nixon if it's on the tele or something, it still amazes me that, because it was me, Matthew McFadion, who I don't know if you know Matthew, but he's a really funny guy, he makes me laugh so much. Oliver Platt and Sam Rockwell, you know, a whole bunch of people, Toby Jones and Rebecca Hall, and we all had such a laugh in the kind of Frost camp on that film, because the Nixon, the actor who played Nixon, wanted to be in character the whole time. Well, I say that. He wanted everyone to call him Mr. President all the time, which which is a slight difference. But nevertheless, so they kept separate, so we were separate and we had to laugh so much. The beginning of almost every scene that involves the Frostlot begins with people laughing. Everyone thinks that's acting. It's just us messing

around in between takes and then we wouldn't hear Ron Howard say action. So the scene would begin with us laughing and then one of us going, fuck we're on, we're doing it. So if you watch the film, you'll see loads of that. It makes me laugh so much. So yeah, none of us were in character, even after action. I can't wait to watch it back now and try and spot it when you're just pissing yourselves. And you're like, oh no, it's better. That's gotta work. You know, it's famously Clint Eastwood, when he directs films, apparently, and I've spoken to a a a people to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to filming a lot of the time. So, you know, when you go down to rehearse the scene, you have what you call sides in your hand, so the script pages for that scene, you know, and they're just sort of smaller versions of it. And you have those in your hand and you're just sort of blocking the scene out,

talking about where you're going there and I was just sort of, you know, just saying the lines or whatever, and then I realized we were filming. Like Clint Eastwood just goes, you know, he doesn't say action, he just tells the cameraman to start filming or whatever. And he said, I still had my sides in my hand. So there's a a scene in Hoover where the actors have their sides in that, where their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their their th. th. th. th. thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the the their, their, their, their, the their the their the their the theeeeeeeeeeee. the. the. the. th hand in the film of it yeah apparently that's how we start this podcast Michael we just easy in now are we in it are we doing it like oh you're the the Clint Eastwood of podcast exactly exactly Michael I'm loving these it's like neat women nitpickers dot com where they point out stuff that happened in films like that

it's like a podcast version of all the, all the different things. That Storm Trooper's got a Casio digital watch on. Yeah, the words of going that that traffic light system wasn't actually in LA in 1967. I'll leave it out, mate. You should listen to, I watched a one, so Ellis James, who I'm familiar with, he is the voice of Channel 5's movie Blunders shows. I'm very much enjoying the name drops here. We've gone from Clint Eastwood, Not of a Platte, to Lloyd Langford and Ellis James. Yeah, we went in different circles.

Alice, it was on, so I put on, a two and a half hour show of Christmas movie Blunders. And to say they were slight is a fucking understanding of that. Any blunder highlights for you, Josh? be blunders. And to say they were slight is a fucking understay with my any any blunder highlights for you Josh was it? It was just like his coffee you might see in this shot that his coffee is full and then they cut the other angle and he's half the coffee's gone and then he's might have to be like where's the cart he'll have to pretend he gives a shit have you ever come across that those I think that their their their their their their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they'll they'll their to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to told to to told. their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their their told. told. to to told. to to be to be to be to be to to pretend he gives a shit. Have you ever come across that those, I think they're the Twitter sites. One is called Hold My Beer and the other one is like, I think it's called dash cam twats

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Dash Cam Twats is... That was the name of my first band as well. Michael, Michael. We should talk, Michael, about this, what the reason you're here. No, so you are a parent. What was your parenting setup, Michael? I have a baby daughter, Lyra, who is coming up to 16 months old, and I have another daughter, Lily, who is almost 22 years, not months, 22 years. So you know, there was a bit of a gap. Did they get on Michael or are they too close, too similar? Yeah, constantly bickering. Yeah, it's hard sharing toys. I just buy the same, both of them the same and then they can't

argue. So how's how's it going to 16? Is it well-behaved sleeping, 60-month-old, Lyra? Lyra is, oh gosh. I mean, the extraordinary thing obviously is that for most of her life we've been going through this whole... Yeah, I forget it and all that and stuff. So I mean she wasn't, you know, she's only a few months old when it kicked off. So it's been a, it's been a, you know, overall it's been a strange experience in the, on the one hand, it's been amazing because, you know, we've just, we haven't been been, you the, you th, th, th been th, th been th, th been th been th been th been th been th been th been th, thi thi thi thi thi thi the on the one hand it's been amazing because you know we've just we haven't been able to focus on much else it's just been yeah us with her you know I remember when Lily was born obviously you know I was I

was working and going away and doing stuff and I really you know I really I really missed that time with her and a lot of that time And but we've you know because of circumstances we've been together the whole time. And the on the negative side. The same answer. Well it's not so much negative. I don't think it's negative but it is you know it's it's very peculiar in so much as just now a lady came to do our COVID test because myself and my partner Anna we have to have a COVID test before we I there's a long story but I'm on my way to America to film to be allowed into America we have to quarantine for two weeks in an approved country so we are at the moment in St. Lucia. I bet you couldn't believe it when that was on the approved list my saviate. Save your condolences, save your sympathy. And anyway, a lady just came to do our COVID test.

Now this lady was, she was wearing a red top. She had, she was, you know, a larger lady, and she had a white mask on. And Lyra all way through it just kept going, Santa! Oh no! We all laughed about it. We all, you know, we all took it in good humour. But you know, I don't know how that lady felt about that. I had to keep going, she said, what is she saying?

I said, I think it's the white mask. She thinks, she's thinking of Santa. No, the same different words. So Michael you must be a drink the white mask. I would say Ants. I would say, what do you say? I would say, Arch. What do you say, Santa? It's Anter. She said, Aunt to she calls her, Auntie, auntie, she calls her auntie, auntie, she's got an auntie, auntie, she's got an auntie, auntie, and you know, she can't say the words

properly. Yeah, I should have said that. But you were right in the middle, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, she. She. She. She, I s. She, I s. She, she said, she said, she said, she said, she, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She, she. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She's, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she's. She's say the words properly. Yeah I mean you know but you were right in the middle of the battlefield there that's I panicked I panicked I panicked but that but that's the thing I suppose I was saying is that in what a weird time for kids of their or of any age to kind of grow up in she's barely played with any other kids you know she's like and the adults she meets on the whole have all got these masks on and stuff. It's really a weird thing. Anyway, that's not at all what your question was, how is she sleeping? She's sleeping all over the gas. She's in St. Lucia, she's off to America.

You're in Port Talbot mainly, right? Yes, I live back there, yeah. So do you go out a lot there or because presumably your house is kind of isolated, is it? Or again, under normal circumstances, yes, we would be going out a lodge. We've got, you know, where my mom and dad live. So I'm about half an hour from my mom and dad and there's a beach, Abravan Beach, down there, which is lovely, and loads of people go down there. So we, we, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, to, to, to, to, tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, to. And, to, haven Beach, down there which is lovely and loads of people go down there. So we, before the pandemic started, before the lockdown, we would go down there all the time we take her down there and it's a lovely place to go and just walk around and go on the

beach if the weather's not too bad and that's great. Are the locals bored of you by now? Like where it's not a big event that you're that's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not a big, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, they. It's not, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, now it's fine. They mainly try and avoid me now. It's just, yeah, it's not. There's no thrill to it at all. The thrill has gone for them all. Yeah, and it's lovely. People are just very friendly and it's really nice. But of course, you know, we haven't been able, we didn't see my mom and dad or my sister, which we normally would, everyone stayed in their homes and so we haven't been going out hardly at all. Now obviously we're very, very fortunate. We've got a nice house and a garden,

which makes a massive difference, obviously. And so, you know, we've been able to get outside and when the weather was good in the the. We saw the spring happening in the garden and we hadn't long moved into the house so it was just a wonderful thing to experience. A bit harder you know more recently when the weather has not been so great but but nevertheless we were able to get out but no going around the place no where we are there's a we're mainly surrounded by sheep and and so that's quite scary in itself. They all gang up on you. They do. Have you seen, I don't know, unless you've lived near sheep, the farmer just lets them wander around.

That's the thing I always thought they would be in orderly sort of fields, but they just wander. They just get, they just roam around. Well, that was when I grew up on Dartmoor, and there would be sheep and horses on their their their their their their their their their they they they their they they they they they they they they they their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they just, they just, they just, have they were they were they were, have they just, have they just, have they just, have just, have just, have just, have they just, have, have, have they just, have, have, have, have they just, have they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, the, thage, thage, thage, thage, thage, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they just sort of roam around. Well that was when I, so I grew up on Dartmoor, and there would be sheep and horses on the moor. And these sheep and horses are owned by people. Yeah, how do they get them back? They'd like, I don't know.

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difference. But that's, is that what you're trying to do that sort of base support? Because of, are they coming with you? Are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, thi. to, to, to, to, to. to. to. to. just, toa, toa, toa, toa, to. just, to. to. to. If, I'm, I'm,'re into New York now, so you plan on taking your partner and daughter? So that's, yeah, again, that's a big difference between when Lily was little and now, is that, I mean, I haven't had to go away as much, obviously, during this last period of time, because we've sort of, you know, I did a TV series from my kitchen, and so I haven't had to go away as much, but when we have, we now go as a group, you know, we go as a group of three everywhere, rather than back in, when Lily was little, I would go off and do stuff and come back. And I, you know, I think it's, you know, I regret a lot of that. I regret being away so much back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Was that something something something a th a th a th a th a that something a that something a that something something something something something something something that something that something that something that something that something that something that something that something that something that yeah, yeah, definitely. Was that something you regretted now you've got a new baby and you've seen that or was that something you kind of...

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just go so quick and then you feel a bit like alien and then you've got to relearn all the little routines and stuff and then sometimes it's easier just to go, oh I've got another bit a bit of work and sort of escape off again. And then you sort of, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's sort of, and it's sort of, and it's sort of, and it's sort of, and it's sort of, and it's sort of, and it's sort of, you, you sort of, and it's sort, and it's sort, you sort, you sort, you sort, you sort, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's sort, th. It's sort of, th. It's sort of, th. It's sort, sort, sort, sort of, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort of, sort, sort, sort of, th. It's sort, th of take that way up. It's very difficult to come back and forth like after food series. Well I've really noticed it now much more so in a way this time because when I have had to go to work I mean and even though we're like Anna and Lyra have come you know we've all come to New York when I've filmed before Christmas so we would all be living together in the apartment..... the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. I've. I've filmed before Christmas. So we would all be living together in the apartment there, but I would go off to work, you know, in the studio for the day and then come back and maybe come back after Lyra's gone to bed,

so I wouldn't see her until the next morning maybe. And I'd notice a difference. Like she wouldn't maybe acknowledge me, first thing in the morning or so it would be different. And that's just from being away for a bit of the day, let alone like away for two weeks like I used to do with, you know, with Lily, I really notice that a lot actually when you go, you're like, come on mate, I've just been to work. Give me a break. They don't get a shit.

That food you're eating is because of me going to be because of me going away and working. So let's have a little bit more. Yeah. We, huh? There's a lot of that going on. I don't like, well, I've not eating it anyway. She didn't eat it the work the afternoon. Yeah. And she just lets it dribble down her mouth. That's what Lyra is doing at the moment.

I think we're getting the getting on to food. Yeah you put you she's eating she's with you know putting her in her mouth and then she's just looking at us in the eye and just letting it dribble down her face. And she knows what she's doing. Now I don't don't know if you remember this period but she's at that period where if you tell her off she just thinn't th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thu thu thu- thu- thu-I thu-I thu- their their their to thu- to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thu. thu. thu. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. too. thuuuuu. thuuu. thu. thu just thinks it's funny. And on the one hand, that's kind of a bit annoying because you, you know, you want to go, no, don't put your fingers in that socket, don't pick that knife up, you know, you want to instill another. But on the other hand, I'm sort of living in in terror a little bit at that moment where she is being told off, you know, because that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th.. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th..... th. th. th. th. You, th. You, th. You, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, to, to, to, to, to, to, that, to, to, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi. You, you know, ld off. You know that? Because at the moment, she just doesn't have that. Even if we get scared about something and raise our voices or are a bit sharp with her,

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that was a nice thing. So then she started developing this sort of like clearly fake laugh just to let things go to let things go along smoothly with the parents I guess. She's acting like an 18-year-old or something. It's such an odd thing seeing they're going, ha ha also because at the end of Pepper Pig, everyone falls down laughing all the time. And so she would pretend to do that and I think she realized, oh I can do a fake laugh. This is quite the short.

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No, it's not classic. It's all good. It's all good. Don't get me wrong. a little bit of a thrill to go, oh who's doing bedtime story today? Oh look it's Tom Hardy or you know it's like some odd people show up. The big gig for that I'm I'm guessing. Christmas Eve, Christmas Day. Who? Yes who did Christmas Eve and Christmas Day? Who? Bloody Justin? Both of them. Because he's just not on enough. He only comes out for the big events. I'll do Christmas age. Wow. Leave it to me.

Night before Christmas, that's mine. Because he actually did the night before Christmas. That was a big gig and he got that. But I mean all that, I mean I do think his show is amazing, like the signing and all that. Would you be good as a kind of children's Mr. Tumble actor? I don't know about that. When you're watching that are you seeing the craft? Do you know what I mean? Well we have a lot of conversations about it is a real skill to be able to do the, you know,

talking to kids on TV without on the one, sounding patronizing and condescending, but then on the other hand, coming a cough across is really creepy. Because a lot of actors, I've noticed a lot of actors go on the bedtime stories thing and they've clearly gone right, I'm not talking down to the kids. I'm not talking down. I'm just going to speak to them straight. They come across really scary. And I thi they they to be able to do that. A lot of them are really good. But what I do find myself doing, and this happened with Lily as well when she

was little, and essentially really had made a difference to my career, because I, people now think that I'm very good at, you know, I must have been good at doing impersonations and that kind of stuff when I was growing up. I was terrible. I couldn't do impersonations. I wasn't that person at all. I couldn't mimic anyone or anything like that. And then when Lily was really little, she would watch, you know, Disney films, Pixar films, whatever it was. And she would then want us to tell her stories about those things that she'd watched. And she would like, and because she was totall tot tot tot tot tot tot tot thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to be to be to be to be to be thi, to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to mo, to mo, to mo, to m. I, to m. I, to m. I, to m. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I was, thin, th she would like, and because she was totally non-judgmental, I would just have a go at doing the voices of those characters. And slowly over time I found like I was quite good at doing though, like I get really quite close to the voices and stuff. So it eventually ended up to the point where it gave me the confidence to have a go at doing Tony Blair Blah and that kind of stuff. I wouldn't th you th you thewewewewewewewewewewew. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. I th. th. th the. th. th. that that tho tho tho tho tho that tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho--------------------------------s. And s s s s s s s s s s s s s s-s. And s s s s s s s s s, and s s s s s s, and s s s s, and s s, and s s, and sly, and sly, and sly, and sly, and sly, and sly, and sly, and sly, and sly, and sly, and slyly, and slylylyly-slo-slo'-slo'eroge. And slylylylylylyly, slowly, slowly, slowly, and sly, and sly, and sly, and s have had the confidence to do it, had I not done that. If you hadn't done, you know, Woody from Toy Story or whatever. Exactly, yeah, yeah, Sully from Monster Zinc, all that, yeah. And all seven dwarves, all seven dwarves,

yeah. She used to, she, she, she's, she'd go to the point, yeah. She would say, uh, she would say, Snow White and Seven Dwarves, Daddy, and she would be Snow White, she would just sit there, and then she would make me be all Seven Dwarves doing stuff, and she would slowly get quieter and quieter, so she wouldn't add anything to it as Snow White, and the Seven Dwarves would just have a conversation around her. That's what she enjoyed the most. Wow. I was exhausted by the end. Yeah, exactly. But with Lyra what I'm finding now is because we watch so much like C.Bibes and all that kind of stuff.

I do find myself, because you were asking, do I do the voices of any characters? I don't, but I do find myself trying to have a go at all of them, all the pepper pig characters, all the moon and me characters, all of the night garden, all of that. And in the back of my head I'm like, yeah, I could do that, I could step into that. If old Derek Jacoby decides to give it a miss, I could pop in that. Could you give us a line or two of our children's CB-we-we-we-we? Well, I mean, Moon and me I think is the best. I think it's a wonderful, wonderful shot. I've not seen Moon and Me. Oh it's so cool, it's really good. Yeah, it's great. Your kids are a bit old for it now I think maybe. Oh really? It's shot so beautifully. It's like a good in the night garden. Yeah. And it's also, they should swap it run because in the night garden is quite frantic and gets her a bit worked up whereas Moonamy which is on earlier, yeah the so I think Moonamy should finish anyway anyway that's all in the

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They're making a biopic of Justin Fletcher. Say no more. I'm in. I'm in. Wait. Wait. I'm in. Wait. I'm in. Also, there's that thing that they constantly get the kids to do to go, Mr. Tumble is funny. Yeah, if you need to tell people you're funny, yes. Yes, I always said that. It's so true. He says it himself, doesn't it? He comes back. Mr. Tumble is funny. Mr. Tumble makes us laugh. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. I. th. th. th. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. doesn't it, comes back. Mr. Tumble is funny. Mr. Tumble makes us laugh. Listen, first rule of comedy, Mr. Tumble needs a pay rise. Mr. Tumble, he's three more series of his sketch show. Who would you most like to hear from on Christmas Eve, children?

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and went to make that was one of the best things I've ever seen and I know it's good on it. I was so amazing. I've never, it was one of the greatest moments of my life, that. Do you know what Rob, when we finally do a live show, we're going to get one of them and we'll finish the show with you doing that again. Someone can bring their baby. I hold the baby. Yeah, I know that's that you sort of basking in the afterglow and then realize where's

the baby? And you realize you've actually served the baby about 50 foot down the airport. What a story though. What? But it's that little thing of like, oh I did that? Like you never will need to do that ever again. There's certain things that you spend so long trying to do with your kids. And oh, what if I can't, and then it just goes within an instant, it's so fast that's there. With the, so like doing stuff, you know when someone says to me, someone who's got a baby that's a year old and they'll say, oh, my baby's doing this, and I'll be like, I don't, I don't remember, it's all already gone. Does it all come flooding back or does it feel like it's a new kind of experience? Well, some things have done, like, you know, the first time you smell that nappy when solids have been introduced. I mean that never changes. And that

was a sense memory. Everything flooded my eyes. So that was like when you put on sun cream and you're taken back to a childhood holiday? That kind of experience. That that that umbrae-saleer moment. Yeah. But that there's nothing like that smell is there when the when the poos go from being those first little baby poos to then then, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th, that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they they they they they they the the the the the the the the the the they the they they theymea, theymea, theymea, theymea, theymea, theymea, theymea, the's theymea, the, the, the is the is there? When the when the poos go from being those first little sort of you know first little baby poos to then whoa this baby is eating food now. Yeah. That hasn't changed and that brought yeah and that feeling of that feeling of that feeling of being in the middle of the night and and you know trying to rock the baby to sleep whilst you're sort of barely awake yourself, those, all

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flying with her as possible but that I mean when she was a little baby and we flew, it was fine because she, you know, she won't go in anywhere, she just slept for most of it, it was great. And now she just wants to walk everywhere and you know it's constant she doesn't want to stay still at all so it's really hard work. And she, you know, there are times when she just thinks, oh I think I'll just scream. Because that's quite, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. thi thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin' thin' thin' tho' thin' thin' thin' thin' thoomom' thoom' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' their, she's their, she's their, she's their, she's their, she's their, she's their, she's their their their their their thin, thin, thin, thin, she's thin, she's their their their thou'n't their thin, their thou'n't thin, thin, thin' thin' their thin, there are times when she just thinks, oh, I think I'll just scream. Because that's quite fun, isn't it? I'll just scream. I've discovered how to do it, so I'll do it over and over again. The other day on the plane, she, I think, because we're so like hypersensitive to other people on the plane,

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Yeah. Well, it's a 24-hour pharmacy. The 24-hour pharmacy was a saving grace when I was a kid. My mom and then was just driving. I remember being in the back of a car, I'm going to drive to a 24-hour pharmacy for something. We're in like shops weren't open they. That was the only thing open at like 11 at night. Yeah. Fucking hell. So then having said that, having the almost the opposite extreme happen during that first lockdown where we were like, we need Calpole, because she is now teething and she's going through a really rough patch with the teething. We need, we've run out of Calpoll and all the supermarkets it's gone because people have just bulk bought it during the lockdown and thinking hang on this is like 2020 and we can't buy Calpol and driving around every

chemist in South Wales. No, no no no no, it's gone and then like seeing that there's no nappies left in the supermarket or no, you know, that was crazy because you're absolutely right. But don't pretend Michael, you weren't thinking this is gonna be a three-hour drive when I'm on my own. This is absolutely perfect. Yeah, sorry Anna, I'm gonna have to go to Cardiff now. No, they haven't got anything. Should be home by morning. Yeah, I'm just stopping off for a pasty at Greggs at Lee Delamere Services. I'm on my way to London.

It says they've got something commentary online, so I'm going to try my best. Rob, you always like to end with the same question. Yes. Is there anything your partner does parenting-wise that sort of frustrates you a little bit and you don't really agree with, but you can't really say it small thing because it would prompt an argument. But if your partner did listen to this, they might go, oh, that's a fair point actually. But you can't say it face to face face face face face face face face face face face face face face face face face face face face face face face face face. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's that's toa. that's that's that's that's a that's a that's that's toa'er. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thiia. thia. thia. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their theauiauanteatingauanteatinga. that's a that's a that's a that's a that an evening. Everyone's tired, you don't want to say it face to face. Yeah, exactly.

For me it's tidy time. Lou will occasionally, even though the house is a mess and we're just clearing a path to get to bed, she'll just go, oh no, it should be tidy now and tell me off of making a mess, Does anything that springs to mind? Obviously she's an incredible mother. That's sad. It's nice taking us round. Yeah, that's it is genuinely very hard to think of anything.

I suppose I suppose and this isn't this isn't with her specifically. This is something that is a bit of a bug bear generally that if something is happening, if the baby's doing something or if someone else's baby is doing something, and so it's more other people really, but when you see someone say, you know, don't do that or trying to stop the child from doing something that they, you know, that's annoying or whatever it is,

and you say, and they don't stop it, and they just give up. Yeah. That, I always kind of that, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, th. th. th. th. that, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, th. th. th. th. th. th kind of go, hang on, you're just teaching the child that that way of doing things works. You're going to, like, that's going to be a lot harder for you down the line. And I know it's, and I do it myself as well, but you know, so I suppose it's only that when I, if I see Anna, you know, trying to stop Lyra from doing something, you know, it's you know it's either it's either going to be something that she might she hasn't hurt herself doing it yet but she might hurt herself doing it or it's annoying and all that it's I suppose it's that really but we both we both we both do that yeah we've all done it but we know also there is the worst parenting crime in the long term I think especially if they make a joke about it when they go oh I won't listen to you, will he? Bloody to roll his eyes.

I don't roll your eyes, just keep telling them. And it's obviously something that she would say about me as well, but it's when you're the one who's not doing it and you see it happening. Yeah, you're like, no, that's not good. Just come, stick to your Yes, this is a war. You're gonna wear them down. They can be only one. Michael Sheen, it's been an absolute pleasure.

Thank you very much. Enjoy your flights. Good luck we work in America and all that. Thank you, yeah. And see you soon for us to reenact some other classic film scenes together. Yes,ingers cross. See you later, Michael. Thank you very much.

All the best. Cheers. Tadar.