Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S02 EP6: Misadventures in parenting...

Episode Date: February 9, 2021

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This podcast is brought to you by Andrex, who believe that clean is more than just being clean. Clean is a feeling. Hello, I'm Josh Riddickum. And I'm Rob Beckett. Welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hell. The show in which, Rob and I discuss what it's like to be a parent during lockdown, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, in an effort to make some kind of sense of the current situation, and to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills, each episode will be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not.

And we will be hearing from you, the listener with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing. Hello and welcome to lockdown parenting how with Can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett and can you say Josh Whiddickam? Good try. Good try. Good try. I thought that was better than a try. That was great. Yeah, lovely. Good try. Good try. Good try. I thought that was better than a try. I thought that was great. Yeah, lovely. Good try.

That was from Jen Chiltern. This is my three-year-old Alva who has just been sent home from nursery for self-isolation for a week. My husband has suggested me go for the scoring system this week. I'd say we are about th tho tho th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho' tho' tho' tho- thate. I'm tho- tho- tho- tho-a. I th. I th. th. th. tho-a. tho-a. tho-a. tho-a. tho-a. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. try. try. try. try, try, try, try, that's try, good-a'''eattry. thoo'a. the. tho'a. tho'a. t're tested positive. My husband has suggested me go for the scoring system this week. I'd say we are about three one down already this morning. Thanks for that. Thank you very much, Jen. On the sent home from nursery, shout out to Matthew and Charlie. Matthew Crosby and his wife, Charlie. I found out today on day one of a 10 dayer, the old 10 day nursery lockdown. And the reason that came into my mind was partly, partly, to partly for some reason I'm linked to him on Spotify. So I can see what he's listening to. What is it all Disney? To to to chugger chugger by the Wiggles. Chugger at the moment? Uh, four hours ago he was listening. All right, I was going to say that's a madugger to get your kid to sleep, can you? No, no you can't. The mad tune. How you been, Josh, you're a bit better,

sleeping a bit more? Yeah, I am, yeah. Oh, good to know you avoided a in the bed situation with your little one. How are you? Well, we've had an up and down week. It's been pretty positive for me in February and March the 8th is coming around the corner.

But we did have a bit of a pom-pom jar problem this week, Josh. Take me through it. Well, as you know, we've got the pom-pom jar, which is where there's a big jar of pom pom-poms, and if they do it bad, it's taken out. We had to have a deduction from the five-year-old's pom-pom jar. She lost the pom-pom. Oh, okay. That's just gonna make it worse, isn't it?

Well, yeah, yeah, but they need to know when they're doing so wrong. So I went upstairs, we've done bedtime. to bed the sat and colouring, nice calm things do. Anyway, all past a three-year-old and I'm like, oh my God, she's got knits, she's got lice, what is going on with her head? The five-year-old had sprinkled pencil sharpness on her head. Oh my God. A head looks like, it looked like, you know, the twit. Who lost the pom-on, the thom, thom, thom, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, thi, thi, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, thi, she's, she's, thi, thi, thi, she's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thoooooo, thoooooo, th.. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, -old or the five-year-old. Yeah the three-old for being an absolute weakling and allowing that anyway so I saw that and I sort of picked it out and she was oblivious and I picked it out of her head and I said to five-year-old did you put pencil sharpens on her

head and she went oh and then was like trtold her off and that's not okay it's not nice. Lou laughed which didn't help because you know they're being naughty but quite cheeky. They lost a pom-pom from her jar as well. Yeah no no treat day for Louise this week. Yeah no nootter, no treat day for Louise this aned. And they're trying to the three-year-old was a bit just I thought I was saying she's played you. She's got your heads covering pencil sharpening. Don't stick up for that little lizard that's been sprinkled on on your nut. Oh it's horrible. Apart from that, she apologized though and all that and she went to bed okay but she lost a pom pom and that's the name of the game. Yeah. I have invented a new game though to keep them happy. th. And th. And th. And it th. And it th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. the. thi. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. th. I. I. th. the th. I. th. I's. I's. I's. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've of the game. Yeah. I have invented a new game though to keep them happy called Disco Drive. Right.

And it sort of really plays into my working class routes where basically what we do is, what doesn't? I take a, I move the car off the drive. Yeah. And they just go up and down the drive on the scooters. Yeah. And then I sit on the drive and it feels like it's a different environment in the back garden and people walk past and sort of wave and say hello at them because they're cute girls dancing to music. So we've been doing that.

Lovely really nice. Also Josh I've got to confess something to you. Yeah I since you mentioned about your itchy bum? When did I mention that? A couple of weeks ago, I've had a really itchy bum. Now I don't know whether it's because you said you had an itchy bum and I need some cream because I actually do have an itchy bum or I just think I've got an itchy bum. Yeah, well, do you know what, Rob? Yeah. Phone the NHS, but don't give you a real name, that would be my tip. Was it a prescription? Was it a prescription a prescription a prescription a prescription a prescription? Robe? Robe? Robe? Robe? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. th. th. th. th. I'm. I'm. I'm? Over the counter. I imagine they listen to the podcast, you'll walk in, they'll go, here you go, put this up your ass and then you want straight back out. That's what Whittaker had he's been fine since. He's actually, it's the same cream, he's returned it, there's half of it now. Click and collect some times yourself. to do more correspondence Josh. We're banging on too much. Wait, I haven't got a couple of things I want to discuss with you. Right, well hurry up because there's people waiting.

Would you like a tip on how to get some time to yourself on looking after kids? Oh yes, this was why I started, well why we started this podcast, Josh. Hid and seek? to hide. thrown. Yes. I've really got to to to to to to to to to to their their tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. their their their their their their their thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip I let her choose. Okay. I prefer to hide. Yeah that is a good one because if you get a really good space you get a bit of time alone. Well, it's a great way to get to look at your phone without feeling guilty, isn't it Rob? Pretending you say we just need it for a light source, but actually you're gobbling up transfer news. Yeah, hide under a blanket straight onto BBC transfer gossip. Wops we've been getting into that? That's good. It's a tough game though in the house when, like, after a while, you run out of spaces to hide, surely. Yeah, but she's quite crap at it.

Oh, fair enough. To the point where I have to start making noise at some points. I also had a low lockdown moment, Rob. Oh, talk to me. So to me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me. So so to me. So so to me. So Sophie. So Sophie. So Sophie. So Sophie. So Sophie. So Sophie. So Sophie. So Sophie. So Sophie. So Sophie. So Sophie. So Sophie. to me. to me. to to to to to to to to to to to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thooooooooo. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. Oh, talk to me. So Sophie, who has been my daughter's carer for like, since she joined a nursery, on and off, but for the most part, she was moving to York. And she came to knock on the door and give my daughter a present as the goodbye,

all socially distanced, obviously. And it's quite, it's too emotional for me, Rock. So I've to to have to have to have to have to listen I I've to listen I've to I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've to listen, I've th. to listen, I've to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. tho, tho, tho, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooananan for me rock. Oh so I've been listening to out on Saturdays because we're in a rut obviously. I listen to radio two they do a thing between one and three on Saturday where they play the top 20 from a year this week in a year. Oh right okay. So basically I walk back into the house feeling quite emotional. Yeah that is quite sad because you know your daughter's from the bond of her and she's going and stuff. Yeah and then radio two kicks in with that week's number one. Here you go. No I couldn't believe I was genuinely it's making me go again.

You're just sat in your front room crying. I was crying. I am getting quite emotional, even when it's not anything that bad, but I was driving home from work the other day listening to song and it was like upbeat song that was reminding me of festivals. And I got a bit teary, just from a sense of longing more than, I wasn't sad. I was just like, oh, it's just sort of a release. You have to be so hardy. You have to be to be so th a to be so hard a thi, thi, thi, th, th, to be th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to th, to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thiiiii, thiii, thi, thi it's so hard at the moment, getting through each day. You have to be so hardy. Like, no, we can do that. It's one day, da da da da. But you're only human and it sometimes it's just too much. Totally. And I'm going to say it. We'd love your

correspondence on what is the smallest thing that's made you cry during lockdown. Yes, lockdown low points. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's thi. It's thoomoom-I. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's tho. It's tho. It's tho. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's th. It's th. It's just just just just. It's th. It's th t t t t t toda. It's th th th thooo. It's one. It's one.the edge and you can't really go. I in the first lockdown I was watching like an advee and I like literally burst into tears watching one of them charity fundraising adverts it was always yeah but I was too much far too much but yeah lockdown low points to John Smith's and plowmans and you're all right. Well I hope you're feeling better now Josh but it's good to show a motion. You don't want to be like a dad from the 70s. I have four points to John Smith from Plowmans and you're all right. Rob, have you ever put your daughter on the toilet where you don't have the child's toilet on it and then they fall down into the toilet, Rob? Oh yeah, it's like something from stranger things. They're getting sucked into the underworld the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the under the're getting soaked into the underworld. Also, it's so cartoon, isn't it?

It's like Mr. Bean or? Yeah, it's like Mr. Was she panicked? You know what? No, because it happened before, so the second time, it just felt like she was like, not this again. I think the trick with it, Rob, it's all about building confidence. You're right, and Andrex wants children and parents to be more confident during key toileting milestones by helping create positive bathroom habits and routines. Andrex is recognized by the British Skin Foundation for clean and healthy skin so you can feel reassured that your family's delicate skin will be cared for. Andrex want you to be the very best version of yourself every day. That's why there's a perfect range of

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Hello, chaps. Since having our first child on Christmas Day, I've been smashing through the episodes. Thank you for giving some light relief between nappy changes feeding and soothing in sleep-deprived days. Two quick discussion topics that I would like you to shed some light on. One, what would you do for her birthday? Christmas to start with, and then birthday, or the other A round or anything else. Oh my, I mean, I've got some terrible news here here. She's not going to have a birthday.

It's over. It's gone. The more you fight it, the more pain it will cause. She just, she will just be a person on this planet that doesn't have birthdays. That is just going to be her life. My birthday is on the second of January, okay? I may as well not have a birthday. Yeah, that that's that's tha tha tha tha tho tho tho tho tho th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's tho. I's th. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. tho. tho. thoome. thoom. thoomo. tho. thoom. their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's th. It's th. It's tho. tho. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. It's the. It's the. It's tho.'s a crap birthday Rob. It's terrible because everyone's back at work, everyone's on a diet, no one's drinking, everyone's spent all their money, everyone's had New Year's Eve, everyone's had a day off for New Year's Day

the New Year's Day, a New Year's Day, a New Year's Day, you're back at work. It's horrific and I've given it's not worth trying to do anything. That is a bad birthday. I think because you're two days away, I think from having a brilliant birthday, which is if your birthday was New Year's Eve, yeah. I think that would be a superb birthday. The only bad thing with that is everyone celebrates when your birthday is over. The only bad thi that is everyone's celebrates when you's their you you their their you their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th. th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi's thi's th. I thi's thi thi's thi's th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I'm thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's th could be a good birthday. No, everyone's completely hung over Rob, no one wants to. Because if it was New Year's Eve, you basically got a way of guilting everyone you want to spend New Year's Eve with, to come out with you. You know when you have a birthday? And there'll be people there, and you can see that they're there just to show their face

and then they're going to leave their their to be to show their going their going to show their going their to show their face and then they're going to leave. There'd be no one doing that with your birthday. Well let's get back to the question rather than make it about me with a birthday, the Christmas Day birthday. It depends if they've got any siblings. If they're an only child, I'd suggest you could split it up and do birthday in the morning or afternoon or whatever. They're going to be judging by or the oldest sibling. If I was them, I'd just do Christmas and then pick a day in between Christmas and New Year for your birthday. Or just sack it off. That's what I've done with my birthday. It's not worth. Yeah, do you miss it? Well, I've never had it. What about when you're a kid? When I was a kid, once, my mom had forgot to get me a birthday present when I was 13, so drove to Sangeberries on the morning of my birthday and bought me a fucking whisk.

And she's listening to this, she knows that's true. I've just sort of given up on birthdays, it's not really worth it. But with a child, because ours are at the beginning of December. We do stuff with them on the day. You can't do that Christmas Day. to thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. And, th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th. And, and, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, to, to, to, to, to, too. And, tooo. And, too. And, too. And, too. And, too. And, toe so I'd do that maybe 25th of August or something. I think you could make a virtue of it and let the child choose another day in between Christmas and New Year when they can have their birthday. Yeah so I would between Christmas and a year you can have a little birthday party because everyone's to their birthday, had like a little party in a hall or you know people could come and if one's off work and school so they can do that so I'd pick a little day for a little in a hall or a house party and then pick a day in the summer where you could do a big one if you

want it. Let's face it, birthdays aren't as good as Christmas. People who prefer their birthday to Christmas are psychopaths. Oh my god. So the things if you try and split the day, yeah, it'll be people, if you do birthday first and I'm going, when the fuck can we do Christmas? And then if you do birthday second, it's like, we're stopping Christmas now. What do you mean? We can't stop Christmas? And also, let's be honest, those birthday presents, they're their birthday, pre-s, they are, no one specifically, their thoomper......... toe birthday, toe birthday, toe birthday, too, too, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their, their, their. their, their, their, their, their, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their.. And, and, and, their..... And, to their.. And, to to to to their.. And, to to their. And, their. And, to their. to to their. their. to to to to to to to their, to to to the to to their, their, their, their. their. the their. their. their. thethat is their birthday present as well? Yeah, the truth is it's over. Your child has no birthday, but obviously that's quite a harsh message to deliver to new parents. And you know, sure, try and do that thing on the 28th, try and do something in the summer,

but ultimately your child won't have a birthday. What is worse for feeling tired? A, the broken sleep cycle of about two to three hours of sleep I have at the moment at night, or when she's older and wakes up at 5 a.m. for the whole day, hopefully not 4.30 like Ellis James. I would say the broken sleep cycle is a million times worse than the 5am wake up. No, no. Because I cut, well, it depends. I'm not a morning person. Okay, so I am done for the entire day if I wake up at five because no matter what time I wake up I always go a bed late still. I can't, I'm just a night out. So that kills me. I'd rather it be broken. And one of us, if it's a broken sleep, I'll say to me or to me or the the the their. I'll. If the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tire. the the tire. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. t. t. t. t. t. try. t. t. the. the. t. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the night and then when they get up for the day at 6 7, the other person sleeps for a couple of hours. So I think if you got your strategy, right, the unbroken, if that unbroken night sleep, both up doing it, you're going to kill yourself as a team.

So you need to go, you deal with that all night, and then at if you're not working or whatever you sleep until 10 or 11. Yeah I don't think I'm getting back to sleep properly and that's I I'd go I there was a long period of 530s when my daughter's about six months it was during the World Cup in 2018 and I just I actually got quite into it yeah but you're morning but you're morning but the best part of the day yeah but not if you don't slept no but not the the the the the that the that that that the that that that the that the that th you're th you're th you're th you're th you're th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. I th. I th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thin. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the the the the te.e. the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm to the. I'm th mornings. I love a morning, mate. It's the best part of the day. Yeah, but not if you're not slept, no, but not 5 a.m. come, not when you're watching Baby Jake and someone's screaming at you for a yogurt. All right, if you're up at 5

and gone for an ice walk and a fryer. I've got quite into early nights, going to be out of tour again Josh to with this. You're going to turn into one of those little bearded glasses, long-aird like comedians that just end up on book review shows. Do you know what I got asked to do on Friday? What? Go on a book review show? Have you been reading my emails Rob? Also they said I was top of the list, which must mean I'm the absolute comedian you think of if you're doing a book review show. If you're doing a book review show and go right we need to get a slightly younger comedian talking about books and stuff like, who should we go for? Right? It's you all day mate. Oh my god. Oh this is a moment. But you love that. But do I need to stay up to 11 p.m out of the two of us I'm more likely to be on a cruise ship in 20 years and you're more likely to be on some book review show, like the Hay Festival where it's called,

Hey On Why Book Fest. You'll be there in a tent chatting about your favorite fiction novel. You struggled to finish that sentence. Yes, sometimes I don't know what books are. But you read books Rob. I do read books yeah but you've been on a boat. Do you know what I mean? It doesn't just really mean you can be doing a you know a song with your close to night. So the answer for Ben Parking is depends who you are. Depends if you're a night hour early mornings but for me I can't do that 5 a.m. start I bet lose the same Lou can't get back to sleep so if I say I'll do you know you you do all you you you you you you can't do it where I can. But it depends on who you are and your daughter's not going to have a birthday. One last point on it is, I think there's nothing worse than the fear of going to bed knowing

they're going to wake up in the night. That's the bit I can't stand. I quite like being in my house awake when it's quiet. Yeah. Don't be scared to use a device. The timeout step can be your ally. Ally, ally, ally, ally. Don't be afraid to say no to your kids. No to your kids. No to your kids. It's okay to apologize as a parent.

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nine-year-old Charlie. This one is from K. M. Fuller. Just listen to the most recent podcast of Josh talking about the clock he has for his daughter to keep her in bed in the morning. We use this with our son too and he calls it Mr. Sun too and he too and he too and he too and he too and he to and he to and he to and he to and he calls and he calls and he calls and he calls and he calls. to and he calls and he calls to and he calls to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. And he calls. And he calls to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. So. So. And he's to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the the to the to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to they learn to press the button themselves to switch it back to morning and come and wake you up in the middle of the night shouting, Mr. Sun is up! He knows he now can't get away of trying to vince us. It wasn't him, but instead just comes in asking how long until Mr. Sun comes up. So they've worked it out. So this is good because mine's all run by an app. Okay, so they said they said they said they said they said they said they said they said they said they said they said they said they said they said they said they said I I they said I they said I they said I they said I they said I they said. I've they said I've they said I've th. I've th. I've th. th. th. I've th. I've th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they they they th. they they th. they th. th. th. the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to the. to the. the. the. the. the. the. th. Oh okay so they said I've tried to slowly creep it forward by five minutes but the latest we can get is six a.m. and even then we can still hear him awake in his bedroom some mornings around five thirty-six. Good luck

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Oh, yes, please. It felt like a holiday. Nobody seemed to miss me downstairs. Am I a terrible wife for letting my husband take over when I was actually feeling better? What would you do in this situation? Enjoy the piece or feel the guilt, the guilt, and feel the guilt, and feel the guilt, and feel, and the guilt, the guilt, the guilt, and feel, the guilt, the guilt, the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, thi, the, please, thi, tho, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, the, please, please, please, the, the, the, the, the, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I............ I, I, I, I... I. I. I, I. I. I, I. I. I, I. I. I, the the the thi. I. I. I, please, please, please, th th th today, today, today, today, today, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, together. today, please. the and help with the kids. I'm all recovered now. Thankfully, thanks for the laughs. What was your thought on this? Well, I think when you get ill when you have a job, you'd always like to take that one extra day when you know you can probably go in but you can actually enjoy being ill. Yes. But also you want to feel your best when you're back when you're back. You don't want to feel your best when you're back. You to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel the best to feel the best to feel the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the thu. thu. thu thu thu thu tho thooo. tho. thoo., exactly. If you compare it to a footballer, you don't want to just get injured again, do you? No.

Also, I think mom guilt is so strong. If you're a good person, like, I'm sure this lady's not giving us her name here, sugar in the twins, is she's feeling guilt. She's feeling guilt, she's, I think you're probably absolutely fine. Also, you know, and you have to, I look at it, it's an aggregate, it's like time in lieu with illnesses and recovery because I broke my ankle and I'm throwing this out here now, I was rushed back into service too soon. And I will stand by that. I'm owed a week of nothing. So if I have Ito tag that onto a little bit of flu here in

there, I think it all works out. And you know that I know Lou's probably doing it a bit as well, which she lays it in bed a little bit longer. So I think it's all a good bit of give and take. I would love a week of pretending I'm out. So I don't resent it. Don't be scared to use a device. The timeout step can be your ally.

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Like, I'm aware, I'm accepting of the challenge-joc interviewer. You don't know how it's stern show to promote Rob and Romage? I don't bet it was like, oh man, you pick it's a wrong, wrong thing to slag off there, but I didn't mind, just laughed. Yeah. Someone's since me the other now, I'm actually unoffendable. to. thsosososososo. to to be they. to be the other. to be the other. the other. to be the other. to be to be the other. to the other. I'm the other. I'm to be the other. I'm to be to to the other. I'm to to to be the other. I'm a to to to to to to me. I'm a to to to to the other. I'm a the other. I'm a the other. I'm a the other. I's a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the show the show. I's the show. I's the show. I's the show. I's to the show. I's the show. I's a to to to the show. I'm a to thin. I'm a thin. I'm a the. I'm a the. I'm a show. I'm a to to to toe. I'm a show. I'm a to to to the show. I'm get humiliated on it on those shows and I like someone takes a place that much laugh but yeah I don't know what would annoy me. What would offend you? No you're pretty you're pretty stoic with those things whereas I'm I'm an absolute snowflake of the highest order really what's it upsets you a little bit is that would it be a a review or someone say I don't read reviews because I know they'd a their a review a review a review a review a they they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd their they'd they'd their their their they'd they'd their their their th th th th thi their their their th. th. th. th. that's that's that's th. that's that's that's th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. they're they're th. they're they're th. they're the the. the. the. they're theeeee. they're they're theee. theee. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd they're because I know they'd upset me. Yeah. So everything, really. Really, literally.

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Oh, here we bloody go. At last, right? Josh ridicule. Josh really was brilliant. saw him with link to my tour show. Unbelievable. So even in the midst of a good review that I knew must be a good review, I'd managed to stumble across a bad review because he links to it in the good review. He links to it in the to go, he was good but don't worry, he can be shit through. I was like, do you know what, that's my own fault for the arrogance of going this has to be a good review and reading and reading and reading and reading. and reading. and reading. and reading. to be a good. to be a good. the world. to be a good. to be a good. their. to be a good. I, to be a good, to be a good, to be a good, to be a good, to be a good, to be a good, to be a good, to be, their, to be a good, their, to me, their, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their.. I. I. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, th. th. So, that's my own fault for the arrogance of going this has to be a good review and reading it. It's a bit like England beat in Columbia in the World Cup on Penetway he's going, England beat Columbia, but also they did lose to Germany. Look at this, look at this.

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Because in a way, if you were so bad, it would make you feel good, wouldn't it? Because they're at least I'm not them three. Yeah, exactly. I imagine what that review of things stay up. Nick Helm is incredible. You're brilliant comedian, they cast as one of the best comedians of his generation. I do imagine that that person then went and watched what happened to, in the following 10 years, and went, what the fuck has happened here?

You know, you're still depressing. Don't get the funny. You, you. You, you, you, depressing. Don't get me. You don't get that. You're just funnier. Right. Would you like another email? Hello, Josh and Rob. Our bedtime routines are getting a little out of hand. We have two sons, four and six, both off school, and we decided not to send the younger one to his wraparound care until the old COVID, it's more under control. They each have their own preferred way of doing things. There are some crossovers. I will highlight some of the madness.

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and head down. I have to carry him running down, saying down, down, down, down, down, down. Next, we have to get his stool from the kitchen with both of us carrying it, doing to me to you. My addition, he's never seen chuckle vision. Back to the kitchen to fill up the water. He must do it himself. He climbs into bed. A. onk be a float swing him down floating like a leaf see the biggest float ever as a moment swinging with his arms out full stretch ending in a plong non spinning he weighs the best part of 20 kilos so I count that as my lockdown exercise story usually stickman but he turns the pages songs every day when Santa Santa Santa Claus is coming to town we have to to the song the to to the to the the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the to to the the the the to the the to the to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tooo. I I I I so soa. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the chimney times two and Santa Claus is coming to town. We have tried other songs but get shouted down with no Santa after they generally sleep through well after seven and have done since around 18 months. Would you swap that for your children's

sleeping past seven? No that is absolutely inside. I can't believe, surely the kid can't remember all those stages. I don't know. Kids are quite good at stuff like that, aren't they???. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. We thi. We thi. We th. We, th. We, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the kid can't remember all those stages I don't know kids are quite good at stuff like that aren't they yeah I know but I that that just seems absurd you wouldn't swap that for your daughter sleeping beyond 7 a.m. No just out of self-respect I mean I'd rather be able to go to sleep at night knowing that I did the right thing and get up early then do all that you know what Rob though I I Rob Rob Rob Rob Rob Rob Rob Rob Rob Rob I I I I I I I I th. th. th. Rob Rob Rob Rob Rob th. I th. I th. I th. I th at th at th at that Rob. I th th th that Rob. I would th th th tho. I would that I would that I would the the that I would that I would that I would that I'd that I'd that I'd that I'd that I'd that I'd that I'd the that I'd the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi the. I'd the. the. theeee. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that though? I would do that for the post seven wake up 100%. No way, no. Yes, way. I'd rather take one on the chin. I'd rather go down fighting.

Next time you're at 5.30, think about whether you'd wish you'd done the spinning plonk. Here's another email. This is going through a phase where they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they need they need they need they need they need they need they need they need they need they need they need they need they need they need they need they need their their their their. their. their to to to their. their. their. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their their their the post. the post. the post. the post. the post. the post. My friend has recently shared a great parenting tip. I wish I had used a while ago. their son is going through a phase where they need to sit on their bed or stay in the room until they fall asleep. My son did this and we would often be in there for an hour.

Her and her husband had been tag-teaming decided to try cutting a person-shaped figure out of cardboard. Miraculously, they basically home aloneed in Rob. They've home aloneed their son. That is, if they wake up in the night and see the car, that's gonna freak about though, in it? Because I used to get scared in my bedroom thinking that my dressing gown was a person. Does that ever freak you out? Yeah. And you what? I've been listening to a spooky podcast, Rob. Ooh, which one? It's Shagmarried or not, no. It's the spooky podcast is about a poltergeist in Battersea.

Oh no, Josh, you don't need that, not in a pandemic. Look after yourself. I listened to the poltergeist one while I was doing my morning workout, Rob, in the the I was doing the press ups, Rob, and I was too scared because I couldn't see what was behind me while I was doing the press ups. I was like, why if someone taps on my shoulder while I'm doing the press up? I'll never recover.

Well, the worst thing you could do is do VR, head set anywhere in my house, because Lou sees that as an open invitation to sneak up on me and scare the fucking shit out of me at the point where I'm nearly sick and mess myself. You know we love a international correspondence, Josh. I do. We've got, this is Mimi swanderings here. Hello, Robin Josh, thank you so much for the podcast. It has made me cry, oh, cry laughing, thank God. On many occasions, you're building up quite a following in Sydney. Ooh. I used to teach young kids around five years old in Singapore at an international school

whose parents were mixed nationalities. They asked me where my parents were from. I explained that my mommy was from Syria and my daddy was from Scotland, where men wear kilt that are similar to skirts. One kid piped up with my daddy wear skirts on the weekend, but my mummy doesn't like it. It was nearly impossible to compose myself for the rest of the class. So a reminder to be careful what you say in front of your kids, unless you want everyone to know, Mirror. That's amazing. Don't be scared to use a device. The timeout step can be your ally. Don't be afraid to say no to your kids.

No to your kids. No to your kids. It's okay to apologize as a parent. Apologize. Apologize. You're listening to W.W.R.B.D. What would Rob Beckett do? Right, thank you for all your emails. We're back on Friday with Paloma Faith, which is an amazing interview, one of my favourite

we've done, so look forward to that. Yeah, it's a great one. I love Paloma. She's brilliant, and she. Enjoy guys, speaks you later. Bye. Bye. This podcast is brought to you by Andrex who believe that clean is more than just being clean.

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