Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S03 EP20: Stephen Mangan

Episode Date: September 17, 2021

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S PARENTING HELLS03 EP20: Stephen Mangan Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant actor, comedian, presenter and writer - Stephen Mangan. Stephen's fantastic children's book 'Escape the Rooms' is available now. Illustrated by his sister, Anita Mangan. Please rate and review. Thanks - Rob and Josh xxxIf you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and member terms apply hello I'm Rob Beckett I'm I'm Josh Willickham welcome to parents in hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with your tips, advice and of, of course, tales of the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their trials theirs. theirs. I trials theirs. I trials trials trials tri-a. I they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, Tales of Parenting Woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

Hello! Hello! Hello you are listening to Parenting Hell with... Can you say Josh Widdicum? Josh Widdeakum. Go! Hello! I don't know! Good, and Rob Beckett. Nice.

Very strong. That was that screaming in the background. I was having flashbacks at the kid's birthday party last week. Like PTSD. Hi, Rob and Josh. Wonder if you could give a shout out to the partners of people deployed with the UK military. My husband is currently four months into a seven-month deployment with the Royal Navy. I'm at home working part-time as a palliative care nurse and raising our two boys, Dylan, about to turn three and Rubin, 18 months.

Wow. A regret in the PTSD reference now, I didn't know that was happening. Oh dear God, I've actually got PTSD pre as well as post. My husband has called a blinder and knocked me up before he left so I'm also seven months pregnant. So please send me all your positive vibes to get me through and spare thought for all those with deployed partners. Yes. There's so many out there. That's from Zoe. Big up all the deployed guys and gowls out there. Those are like Soldier and homecoming videos on the internet. They're good. You've seen them when they come home from a tour and their kids haven't seen them for like eight months and they hug them and play sad music. I cry to that sometimes on long journeys. That's what we, that's what my life was like after the 12 episodes of the last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last last. the last. the last. the last. the last. the last. the last. the 12. the 12. the 12. the 12. their. their. the 12. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the Paralympics. Yeah they cried because you came home not because. Oh my God I've just got an email from nursery called chicken pox and hand foot and

mouth shoot me in the head roll. I keep getting them emails going like oh there's a COVID case please not my kid please don't my kid please not my kid it's all clear it's all clear in my room I'm going to say it is there a worse phone number to come up on your phone than nursery? Genuely, I'd prefer to see the phone number of an X. I know. The phone number of the nursery at 11 a.m. Yes, and yeah, that is the worst call you can get at 11 a.m. About 9-ish it that call recently thank God. Yeah what a life. What a life. We've got to be quicker. Instagram messages. One thing's annoying me. Childless people

that are on holiday in September because it's cheaper splashing it all over Instagram can go fuck themselves. I can't deal with it. Just getting up by the poor day out on the piss and and it's actually I've been muting people on Instagram because they've been happy. Which is not, you know, that's more, obviously more my problem. They're doing nothing wrong, but I just don't want to see it happening. Yeah, it's, it's awful. Imagine going to Greece with Rose for a week with no children. Not even like, but like, no children. Your children don't exist, so there's no guilt. Yeah, yeah. You're not thr I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's not that's that's that's not that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the throoo. th. th. th. that's th. that's that's th. that could happen you get two more weeks a holiday do you know I mean it's not like anyway fuck off fuck off so to so that's the thing is like Max Rushton of the Guardian

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Anyway, let's get on with our Instagrams. Yes, Instagrams, let's do this. Okay, Josh, tire pressure to do. Basically, it's on the door. So if you open the driver door, there's a sticker label and it's here with the correct pressure. Oh, oh, thank you. That's Tracy and Deborah that's messaged in with that. I bought a tire pressure thing now so I can do it in the street. Well you can just pump it in the street. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the the street in the street in the street in the street in the street in the street in the street in the street in the street. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the street. Yeah. Yeah. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti the the, that is so far down on my to-do list. Oh, my fuel's not going to be quite efficient enough because my tires aren't pumped up. I'll be fine for the next week. Yeah. Okay, now thing I have no opinion on, we asked for this the other day. I don't know what was about that. I don't know because everyone's got an opinion. I said think some, Steve Henry said, th. S, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's not, thi's not thi. thi's not thi's not thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to toeee. toe. toe. toe. toe. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. th. th. th Coke, I don't care. Yes, that's a good one. Things I don't have an opinion on this are really good. It's one of the great text topics.

Because when you go into places, what I think is, there's a real market employee, Coke and Pepsi. Whenever you go, oh, can I get a can of Coke or whatever somewhere, and they're oh, I'm really sorry. We only do Pepsi, is that okay? I think the messaging needs to be better, where if you went, oh we don't have Coke, but we've got Pepsi, you think, you always think you're getting something worse, but actually it might be better. But if it's always delivered to you and it's that, it's that okay, it needs to be a bit more like,

no, we've got Pepsi. bar you never get the option because they've just got the contract for one haven't they? Yeah it's always like mafia controlled. You know it's like a racketeering you go into one area whatever you if you want coke you don't get a choice is one or totally. I feel a bit like that with most of the lagers Rob when when you're at the bar and people go which one do you want and I just have to kind I have to pretend that I to to pretend I to pretend I to pretend I to pretend I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toa. the the toa. to to to to to to to to to pretend that I care whether it's an umster. No, I care. I just my taste buds aren't advanced enough. Well, look, Foster's and Carlin, not for me. Yeah, no, I understand that. I'll draw the line there. But so I'm a like Moretti, Maretti is probably my favorite, a Heineken, Amstall, sometimes stellar, it's, hoppy, brew dog stuff. It's too much for me. Camden's quite a nice, Camden

Town Larga's nice. That's a good one. This fails on the things we don't have an opinion on. What other things do people not have opinions on? It was literally just that. Do send in your things you things you things you things you things you things you things. Do you things. Do you things. Do you things. Do you things. Do you things. Do things. Do things. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do. Do. Do. Do do. Do do. Do do. Do do. Do do. Do do. Do do. Do do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do, do th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do you th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, do the. Do, do the.than Josh Instagram here. Hi, dear Rob and Josh, I love your podcast, please never stop. I would like to regale you with an incident that took place many years ago when my son was around six months old. Normally a placid calm baby, around this time he developed an intolerance to cows milk. It was eventually diagnosed. It was eventually diagnosed. We moved on to soy a temporarily. tempor. to to to to to sorry. to sorry. toa. toa. toa. the toe. the the. toe. toe. the the. the the, toe. We, toe, the toe, toe, toe, the the the the toe, the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, their, their, their, their, their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I the the the tho. I'm the the to. I've the today, the too. I've toe. I the toe, the the the temporarily all-salted. But before that, he had been crying almost non-stop for three days. By this point, I was basically a zombie. My partner arrived home from work one evening and took over, but I decided to pop up to the village shop to get something.

It was only a five-minute walk. But on the way there, I remember being really t I went to the shop. Coming out of the shop, in my sleep-deprived state, I did not question why on earth my partner had pulled up outside in our car, just grateful I didn't have to find the energy to trek home. I got in the car and sank into the passenger seat. It was quite a few seconds before I realized the driver wasn't my partner, and the car. I was just sat in a stranger's car. However, it was so comfortable and I was so tired that I turned to this stranger next to me and offered him my change, £2.50, for a lift home giving him the address. It did cross my mind as we

pulled away from the shop that these could be my final moment. He took her up on it. Well yeah, that she'd, luckily a very nice man obliged and refused the offer of hard cash but just dropped her own. But she, yeah, she could have been kidnapped and killed, but that's up to her. I must remain anonymous as my partner listens to and would not be amused even all these year later. Okay, that's anonymous there from... Things you do when you're tired. I I I I I I I thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoome. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoomomomorrow. thoomorrow. thi. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. theired. I know I think falling asleep during a filling still wins doesn't it? Yeah I think falling asleep during a filling. Because that day you fell asleep during a C section but someone in your mouth falling asleep with someone in your mouth. That's even though it's

numb you still know someone's in your mouth and you can feel the vibrations right I mean I've never had a C section it's probably just as intrusive. I'd say that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I's their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their their their their th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I things. I things. I things. I things. I th. I thin. I th. I th. I thin. I thi. I thi. I thi right I mean I've never had a C section it's probably just as intrusive I'd say that's on a par C section and then this gang are you good at the dentist because obviously your teeth are you're one of your calling cards yes I don't like chatting at the dentist and I'm not a massive fan of the dentist I sort of I always do go but I sort of put it off slightly but yeah I'm not too bad but my my technique my my my my my technique my my technique my my technique my my technique my technique my technique my technique my technique my to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. th the. the. I tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. te. I's too bad, but my technique is if headphones on while they're doing anything, and you just give them thumbs up and thumbs down if it's hurting or whatever or to stop, especially on a clean or if they're doing a fill in, right, checkup, obviously, I speak to them because they're just looking, but if I'm getting any work done, those headphones, especially ones that plug in and they're like, what's the plug, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, to, th, th, th, to, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, to, thum, thum, thumbs, thumbs, thumbs, thumbs, thumbs, and thumbs, and thumbs, and thumbs, and thum, and thum, and thum, and thum, and thum, and thum, and th, and th, and th, and, and, and, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thum, thumbs, thumbs, thumbs, thumbs, thumbs, thumbs, thumbs, thumbs, to, to, to, to, to thumbs, thumbs, thumbs, and, th know, that's really good because you can't hear the whirring of the machine is what gets on my nerve. I went to a dentist and they had glasses that you put on. Yeah, they then show,

they're TV glasses. Oh, so they're tell you on of glasses. Yeah, I prefer a podcast or music. I like listening to really loud sort of like rap or dance music. Does anyone listen to this while having a dental button? No, too dangerous if you laughed? Yes, I mean it's a real like slam on us if they do listen. And it was actually fine. No movement at all. Didn't laugh once. Right, another one before we bring on Stephen Mangan. I know you're in a busy boy today, Joshua. Here we go. Hi, Rob and Josh, love the podcast, has kept me saying through all of this. On the subject of swearing, blaspheming in front of kids, my three old son is still

in nappies at night and has got into the routine of doing a poo in them in the morning. A few weeks ago he had run, he had a absolutely, he had a absolutely, he had a the absolute, he had a the absolute, he had a the absolute, he had a weeks ago he had run an absolute, he had a run of absolute stinkers, which apparently calls my partner to exclaim, Jesus Christ! Each time he got him up and got him dressed for the day. Oh yeah, because I've got a three-year-old's poo, it's just like an adult's poo. It's not, like, it's not a baby poo anymore. That is just like near enough fully grown human shit in a little pair of bans. Anyway, my son now seems to believe that the phrase is associated with shitting. Multiple times I've overheard him on the toilet straining and exclaiming, Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ! Like a sweaty man dealing with the consequences of a Lagran curry binge.

We have tried to discourage him, but he keeps doing it. He started at nursery school recently, and I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th seems th seems th seems th seems th seems th seems th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th seems th seems thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks to believe thinks to believe thinks to thinks to believe now now now now thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks. We've tried to discourage him, but he keeps doing it. He started at nursery school recently and I dread to think where teachers think his home life is like, thanks Helen. Oh my word. Jesus Christ. That's quite funny when your kid is doing a poo and you go, you're alright because yeah I'm just on toilet and you know one's flying out. Daddy what we're doing tomorrow? Mommy what's for dinner? Oh God. It's a strange arrair oppressions you've got but that is one of your absolute crowd pleases isn't it? Oh yeah, that yeah, the child shit in, any situation you put me in. Daddy, what's the best but uh, Lego land? Right, okay, we'll do more Instagrams and emails next week. Sorry, we haven't done that many this week.

We could do another correspondence catch-up maybe in a couple weeks. Yeah, we had such a bad week on Tuesday. We'd had such bad weeks that we didn't have time for Instagram. Right, okay, we've got Stephen Manga now. Absolutely brilliant interview. loved it. Hello Steve Amang and welcome to the podcast. How are you? Yeah, I'm all right, thanks. I'm very good. It's a beautiful world. I'm very happy to be in it. Oh, okay. Wow. Yeah. That's how I'm feeling today. Yeah. Have you just done a radio four interview for this book? Or you see? You seem to want a bit different, like, head space to us the thi. to th. th. th. thin, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the to to to the to, the the the the the the the their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the their, to to the thi. to thi. to. to. to. th. to. to. to. th. to. th. to. the to. the the the the the the bit down, but not, it's not going to be that, you know, sort of considered and

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world. Because that's just happened for Josh actually, it's six months. Oh, that's a lot of fun. That's the kind of humor that we can enjoy. There's that kind of stuff, just pop of coming up to me in the kitchen and just sort of checking his high against mine and literally will be any day now and he's also, he's also shoves me quite a lot.

He's always, he's always asking for an arm wrestle and it's a lot of playfighting which, which we all know is just like, you know, who can kill who at this point. It can. It has got to the point now where he can beat me up. How tall are you, Stephen? I'm six foot. So he's quite a big lad at 13, they're nice. It's really annoying. I thought I'd have a few more years.

Do you think he could beat you up? I mean, well, when'm going to the gym, I'm going running, I'm working out to stay on top of this. Because the moment he knows he's got me physically, it's all over. That's it, forget it. Oh wow. I'll just have to do his bidding whenever he says like, you know, you know, can't tidy your room Harry? It'll be like, can you tie to do this with two more as well as they come up the ranks of you know trying to get alpha status. I can't bear it. I mean I never thought I'd have boys because I've got two sisters and I just assumed I'd have girls for some reason and I thought I could handle that. I know you know growing up around girls. You understand women. I understand I'm very understanding. I'm very sensitive and I've got these all these boys just the boys. the boys. the boys. the boys. the boys. the boys. the boys. the boys. their. their. the boys. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm they. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very sensitive. I'm very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very. I'm very very very very very. I'm very very very very. I'm very very very very. I'm very. I'm very very. I'm very very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm. I. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very. I'm very understanding. I'm very understanding. I'm very understanding. I'm very understanding. I'm very understanding. I'm very understanding. I'm very understanding. I'm very. I'm very very. I'm very very very very. I'm appearing. And how old are the other ones? Yeah. So that's Harry Frank is our middle one.

He's 10. And no, 11, just turned 11 last week. He's 11. He's 11. He might well be shorter than Harry. That day may never come that he overt. I'm no. You think I'm obsessed by whether they're those doors with the heights marked on it and your height is on it? I have to keep rubbing it out at night and putting it higher.

Wearing little platform shoes. So Frank is 11 and then coming up age-wise at the back is Little Jack who is 5. And we're all we're all dark-haired. My me Harry and Frank but little Jack is a very strawberry blonde he's a little sort of redhead oh okay got what wrong with that he's gorgeous but he does look like we've kidnapped him when we're all out together well yes he's a bit younger as well because we've got two kids and you know I don't think you one of thir because now our youngest is three going nearly four so it would be like a five six year age gap if we we we he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he is he is he th he is th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is a th is a th is a th is a th is a th is a th is a th is a th is a th is th is a th is th is th is th is a th is a th is a th is a th is a th is a th is a th is a little the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the think you want to third, because now our youngest is three, going nearly four, so it would be like a five, six year age gap if you did go for another one.

So did you always want three or was it a bit of a, oh, let's have one more before. I always wanted three and I thought we'd hung our boots up, and we thought two was it. Yeah, yeah. mistake I just want to say it wasn't as planned for it was just a really really pleasant surprise I was filming a Victorian drama in Liverpool and I went method no Johnny fair play you're a matter and I yeah I yes the venereal disease wasn't very well received at home but yeah and I remember just for a before a take, get a little buzz in my pocket, the message comes to me. I haven't turned off my phone so I quickly looked at it.

That's ruined a scene, doesn't it, when you get a text after the Victorian show. It doesn't wash. He's not, he's not one of those actors that stays in character. In fact, he's still still the th still th still th still th still th still th still th still th still th still thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi's not thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I's not thi. I's the. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I's thi. I's thum. I thum. I thum. I thum. I the thum. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I that. I that. I's that. I's that. I's that. I'm that. I'm that. I'm that. I'm the. I'm teat. I'm teat. I'm teateateateateateastern. I'm tomeastern. I'm tomeastern. I'm tomeastern. I'm the. Yeah, of course, but I do remember getting a text from my wife just a picture of a positive pregnancy with test with WTF on it and and they said, can we go for a take? And I said, can you just give me one second? And I went around the corner and I sort of, there I was in big mutton chops and a top hat just going on, what are we going to do? And if I look back back back back back back back back back back back back the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. I to to to to th. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. the. I the. the. the. te. te. te. to. I to. to. I to. I chops and a top hat just going, what? Oh my God. What are we going to do? And if I look back on that scene that we then shot,

you can see the panic and terror in my eyes. Yeah. It was there. But you know, he's the best thing that ever happened. Do you know what? It's the best performance mangan's ever given in that scene. What one the one who was being tortured as a Victorian? The pain in his eyes felt so real. He even screamed and cried back in his trailer.

He really took the scene home with him. Did you know, I mean, I don't want to go. Did you know the pregnancy test was happening? Was it completely? No, no, I didn't. No, I had no idea. There was no buildup. It was just, here's here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here's, here's, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. the. the. theat too, too, tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. te. te. te. to. to. to. to. no idea. I mean, there was no build up, it was just, here's the news, what are we going to call him? Wow. We've run out of names. When he came out, Ginger, was you suspicious at all?

Well, luckily, there might have been some clown play. I know, I mean, it is your kind of, but luckily my mom and her dad, he's got two ginger grandparents so. Okay, that does. There's a bit of a link. It is, but you know, you do feel you want to get a t-shirt printed up and put it on him as we wander around the streets and, you know, yeah, 500 years of dark-haired mangan's chain. You do have a wonderful head of hair, Steven. It's a main, a main on. You don't really realize how important hair is to men, their, their, their, thia, th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, toooooome. And, tooomorrow, how important hair is to men when you have it. Yeah. And I think we're all quite blessed with hair as been that you know getting 30s and older whereas a lot of lads our age it is literally the bane of their life trying to cover up the hair loss. How do you how do you

maintain your hair Stephen is it? Are you using a product? I keep in a box for the tree? I batthan. How th. How th. How th. How th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th th th th th th thin thin' th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm the. I'm theee. I'll theeateateeateateate. I'll theate. I'll theate. I'm theate. I'm the this out of my bed. I bathe it in milk every fortnight. I don't know, I mean, you know, I shampoo me, Josh. I don't know. I didn't think this is what this podcast was about. So when you say that your oldest, it's 13, and he's bullying you. Yeah, well, he's not bullying me. That sounds like someone who's being bullying me, he's just seeing if he can bully me. He's not saying if you can bully. That sounds like someone who's being bullied. He's not actually bully me.

We're actually mate, but sometimes we fall out. I meant to fall over. Is it quite an alpha house with three boys in the house? No, I mean, it's a showbiz house. I mean, both his parents are actors. I mean, there's a lot lot there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot. hard work and vocal warm-ups going on. It's not a butch place to be at all, which is where I think he spotted a gap in the market. Yeah. Right, yeah.

I think, you know, he seems very easy targets, you know, the jazz shoes lined up by the front door and the ballet bar in the living room. I think he thinks I can have this lot. Have you ever had a fight, Stephen? Yeah. I have, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, I, I'm, th. thinks, thinks, thinks, I'm, I'm, thinks, thinks, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. thinks, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, I's, I's, I's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. th. thin. th. th. thin, the th. th. thin. th. th. th. thin. th. thin. th th thin. thea. thi. It's, I's. I have at school. Yeah, yeah, I used to get into it. So it was very small. I mean, unlike him, which is also annoying because I was very, very small until I was 15 or 16. Things happened very late for me heightwise. So I was small and I know you're going to find this hard to believe, but I was quite gobby. Yeah. And I used to get into fights because of course I couldn't keep my mouth shut and then I but I couldn't back it up you know physically so it was it was a very it was a very tiring time. But now he's got that he's got the size and the gobbiness he could really do some damage. I mean he's every man he's every dad's worst nightmare in that respect. Does he play rugby or not? He's just learning to play rugby? He's just done before. I've kept him away from it. That might get rid of some of his energy. Yeah, hopefully, hopefully.

I don't think I could deal with watching my child play rugby. I just don't like rugby I suppose that's the problem. Yeah, no I'm just not going to go watch him. I mean, you know, that's not what you really mean though is it? I wasn't worried about the two hours out of my weekend. It was more the physical impact. Yeah, oh God, I can't watch anything. You can't fright forward. It's boring, defensive. Do you take your kids to Spurs, Stephen?

I do, yeah. I mean, the eldest Harry is, he's absolutely obsessed by Spurs now. And so he goes along, I've got a couple of season tickets, we take him along. Annoyingly my youngest is Jack is five and my wife who's from his scouser and has absolutely no interest in football I mean hates football but just to annoy me telling him he's a Liverpool fan since he was born so now he will answer he'll be he say I'm Liverpool family when he went which I find I mean I he just gets Liverpool kids because my wife's just determined to annoy me by by turning him into a Liverpool. That's good troll in. That is isn't it? I mean she doesn't like football. It's not on.

It's not on. Because also it's too far away. If you're going to have to take him to Liverpool. I'm not doing that. You're not doing that lootin'. No, I mean? Well I think the problem I did was when, when Harry was eight days old, I said to Louise that I was, I said to Lou, I'm going to take him for a walk and I bundle them into the car and I drove him to Whiteheart Lane and I just, because I was terraced because we live sort of nearer to Arsenal the the the the the the to to their, to to to their, to to to to their, to to to to to to to, their, to, to, to, thereen, to, to, to, to, to, to, when I'm, when, when, when I was, when I was, when I was, when I was, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when,er to Arsenal than we do to Spurs. And I was worried that he would grow up being an Arsenal fan. So I took him to Spurs and I've loads of pictures of him outside the ground. I'm holding him up like, you know, way for cut next to a picture of Steve Perryman. And so I've got lots of pictures of him in the ground. And I did the same with Frank when when he he he th. But I was th. But I was I was I was I was didn't do it. Laying down a marker early enough.

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side. I mean, I was in a playground yesterday and I was thinking, oh God, I've spent nearly 13 years in playgrounds. I mean, that's, I, I, I, I, I, I, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the, the most committed pedophile would struggle to match those stats. I mean, you know, pushing someone on the swings, you think, I've done this for so many years. We really should have thought this through. They never get bored of it either. No, they don't. Back and fall back. How are you not feeling sick? Yeah. Can we all agree the playground is shit? It is shit. It is shit. Absolutely. And also you've got full of other people's children who are annoying, let's be

honest. Yeah. I mean, he was coming down the slide yesterday, Jack. And you know, these kids are coming down the slide and then they're stopping, the next one's wait. I mean, you know, you want to get a little bit of a system going there. Exactly. They just don't have no idea about efficiency about getting things moving. Also as well, the problem with kids is there's always new ones with parents that are really excited. That's the first time they've been down a slide. And you're like, I've seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen seen the ones the go again, stop filming his slide. It's a shit slide. Just the fun of your kids done. The ones that are up the top of the slide releasing their little eight-month old kid and then trying to run down in time to catch it from the other end. That is quite funny to watch. You just think, don't worry, mate. They'll be theirse. they'll they'll they'll they'll just, they'll just, they'll just, they'll just, th th th th thin, their, thin, thin, thin, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. th. th. th. th. th. theat, their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the bottom, it's all okay. I think it's that they never get bored. So theoretically you could be in the park for eight hours and so however

much effort you put in, it's still going to be difficult to get them out of the park, do you know what I mean? Yeah. There's no progress. It's not like going to the zoo when you go we've done it all. Yeah we've seen every animal. Yeah we've look ticked it all off, let's go home. With the park, it's just infinite. But the beauty of having two older boys is you get to go, Frank, you know, play with Jack on the park while I do some very important looking at my phone on this bench. I can't.

And you just, you sort of subcontract all of that stuff out to the other two. Oh nice. And there's a fact that's a lot of that goes on. Harry will put Jack to bed a lot or, you know, give him a bath. Harry's like your dad. He's basically, Harry is, Harry, I'm still waiting for him to give my pocket money this week actually, because I want to go to the news agents but he's not getting me my money. So also, they must be like, you know, you're young, the 11 year old on the way to and then 13 year old, into puberty and stuff. What's it like having a teenage boy going through puberty in the house? I mean, it's the, there's a lot of don't ask, don't tell?

Of course they are. moment and I've just slightly, I'm looking at my hands to see, I mean it's disgusting, it is because we were boys and we know, you know, we know what happens. And you know, you know, I mean I would say to him just you know, you know, the frenzy wankers. It's just disgusting and to think of your own son and oh god I just don't want to know. No exact. I mean I would say to him just you know, I would to keep keep keep to say to say to keep to say to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say to say to say to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to say just to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep to keep keep keep the the the the the the the the to keep the privacy. to him just to him just to him just to him just to him just to him just to him just to him just to him just to him just to the privacy. the privacy. I to keep it to keep the the privacy of your own room, but of course you're going to do that anyway. Yeah. If you start doing it downstairs, that would be another issue, wouldn't it? Leave it. I have actually have some call folks here, Harry? Come, the grandmother's here, Jerry. But the mistake. Have you had the talk. You didn't know what was going on. He was like Victorian. How did that work?

I thought we'd worked out what was causing that. Yeah, no, and we decided, well, Lou decided, and I was very much in favor of it, that she said it would be good for her in general has those sort of chats. I don't want to... get involved. I don't want to get involved in that chat. I don't want to get involved. I, it makes me... My body language is awful at the moment. Josh, Rose has to do it. You can't you can't be in charge of that chat. You'd be that, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you the the the the the the the th the the the the the th th th th the the tho, you, you, you, you, you, you, you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. I that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, be like, it's okay dad, I'll explain it to you. The way I'd approach it would give them a kind of complex about the stresses of the sex, and everything, whatever. When you first started doing comedy, because we started out to get, Josh first started to nervous,

but one of your tales was you'd clap your fingers onto the palm of your hand and you'd get you dip your fingers in water and put water behind your ears and on your temples to calm me and call you down. Do you remember that? I'd splash my face but then yeah and then you get on TV. But then you get on TV out. And then you get on TV. And then you get on TV. to get on TV. their. And their. their. their. their. their. to. their. their. to. to. their. to. their. the to. to. the the to the to to to to the to to the the the the to. the to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. S. their. their. their. their. to dip. to dip. to dip. to dip. to dip. to dip. to dip. And to dip. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. t. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. tie. te. t. t. t. t. to. to. t. to. t. trowing water in your face. The problem is you get on TV out what you wear makeup and suddenly you can't splash your face before you go on to 8 out of 10 cats. No, you can't. You can't. I think we've done a corporate or two together, Josh, haven't we?

I mean, I do remember you being quite sort of a little bit on edge before you were a little bit of a pacing. I'm a little little little bit. I. I. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a little thi. I'm a little thi. I'm a little thi. I'm a little th. I'm a little th. I've th. I've th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm a little bit th. I'm a little bit th. I'm a little bit th. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a little bit t. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a little bit thi. I'm a really listening to me. No. Like now. Probably because I'm quite boring. I think that's just stand-up comedians in general. It's very hard for them to listen. They're just so self-obsessed. But how do you split up the sort of parenting and stuff? Because you're both actors, aren't you, you and your wife? So is it what of theatre, you know, every now and again, so that means you're out of the house six nights a week. And I used to get up in the morning after a show, but I'm at the moment, I hope she's not

listening, I'm managing to get a lie in because I'm too tired, that's what, you know, so there are periods when I'm away filming, or she's away filming. I mean, you know, Lou is kind of in charge of what goes on and knows what goes on, but I'm pretty hands-on. I'm, you know, and I, you know, for example, I'll be taking them to school for the next few months and I will, I'm not so great at the cooking, but I do bedtime's like a lot of dads, I do a lot reading the stories, although I've had some harsh reviews recently, so I'm

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Yeah, until he was four he thought every story ended with red by Stephen Mangum. You should start doing that whenever you read anything out loud, like if you read out the wine list at dinner, you just read by Stephen Mangon. So, yeah, so I do that and I'm, you know, because they're boys, I tend to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tend, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you tak, you tak, you know, you know, you know, you to to the the the the the the the the the the their, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you their, you their, you their, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, tak, tak, tak, tame, tame, tame, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, man. So, yeah, so I do that and I'm, you know, because they're boys, I tend to be the one, you know, takes the park, play football with them, you know, playgrounds. Yeah, but we're pretty 50 with 50, I think I'm all right. I do my bit. With the recording of the children's audio books, books and but you're knocking out funny bones right yeah but Stevens a proper trained act I know exactly I'm just a fucking market trade and they got a bit chippy I think you're born chippy I don't think you ever

got a bit chippy I think you're born chippy somewhere else but yeah yeah how long you taken to knock out funny bones I read it twice I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm just just just th. I'm just th. I'm just just thi. I'm just th. I'm just th. I'm just th. I'm just the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I's th. I's th. I'm just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just th. I'm just th. I'm just th. I'm just thi. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I th. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. Itaking to knock out funny bones? I read it twice, I think, and that was it. Yeah, I read it twice and I went home. Yeah, no, I stopped doing proper, you know, full-length audio books. Although having said that, I've just done a couple of Douglas Adams books, but the full-length novels, but children's books. But children's books I love. I did the audio book for my book. Let's let's discuss that your book Escape the Room Stephen. What a second you hear that the way I brought that into the inside? So good it was masterful yeah it was it was very good but also I found a little disrespectful that you couldn't see where I was going.

I'm just interested in two seconds from doing the very same thing and then you showed me up. You said three dimensional chess and I'm going, talk about my book. So, Escape the Rooms, which is illustrated by your sister? Yeah, I mean who'd have seen that coming? Not you two, because you never met her, but... She's an illustrator though, you've not just sort of gotten changed. She knows what she's doing. She can draw. Can I keep the illustration money

and just get my sister to do it? Can I keep half it for myself? Yeah, don't tell her we got to paid. Yeah. She, yeah, she's been a successful illustrator for a long time and done a lot of great. I mean, like Leon, if you got one of those in your house, they'll have been done by pictures, family pictures in the back and you'll, there's a lot of me, age three and four. What, what, Leon, Leon, yeah, the first sort of four or five cookbooks they did. And yeah, we just got this idea of doing a book and, you know, I mean, I really don't think I'd have done it without her because, as Yeah. Because I think people think kids book does not one of them out a bit of money but no you have to really put a lot of effort in for it to be decent. And it's a proper kids book book it's a growner up by it's like yeah. Oh it's a proper novel yeah it's for like eight to 12 and I was like like a the the the to to like a to like a to like a to like a to like a to like a to like a to like a to like a to like a to like a to like a to like a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to 8 8 8 8 to 8 to 8 to 8 to 8 to 8 to 8 to 8 8 8 8 8 8 8. I I to to to 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8. I to 8. I to 8. I to 8. I to to 8. I to to to to to 8 to 8 to 12. I to 1 1. I to to to 1. I to 1. I to to to to to to to to th. I th. I mean I was when I was sort of a seven-eight I was a real bookworm. I always had my head in a book.

I used to love reading and so I wanted to write a book that I would have wanted to read at that age, you know that it was funny and there was exciting and he didn't know where it was going to go and it was a bit mad and so yeah, my sister and I ended up working together, which was a joy because you don't know how it's going to go really. I mean we're getting them very well. Working was with a family member. It's obviously, you know, it's a bit of a gamble, but she's her, her illustrations make the book. They are absolutely amazing. Yeah, because they look, they're sort of like, I'm looking at it now. It's a compliment. They're sort of look, they're like, their. It's sort of. It's sort of. It's sort of. It's sort of. It's sort of. It's sort of. It's sort of. It's a comp. It's a comp. It's a comp. It's a comp. It's a comp. It's a comp. It's a comp. It's a comp. It's a their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, it's a their, it's a their, their, their, you. It's a their, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's be so like, have character in what they do and make it different. It's like, that don't look like a fucking dog, mate. I know you're trying to be mental and put your own stamp on it, but let's try and get a message across. But how she's done, it's amazing. You can tell what every sort of animal is and what they're all up to, but it's sort to definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely, but, but, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to be, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to, to to to to to to their, like, their, their, their, their, their, try, like, try and their their their their their their their their their try and just copy and pasted? But I'm in trouble with the book because when I started it, Jack was a baby and I named the main character Jack. Just because it was a name on my mind. The kids are going to hate you, that's

therapy. All the money from this book is going to go on their therapy now. It's going to go all the, what's, what's, what's, what's going tho, what's going tho, what's going tho, what's, what's, what's, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, because thi, because their, because thi, because thi, because thi, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, because their, when their, when thi. thi, when thi, when thi, when thi, when thi, when thi, when I's going, when I's going, when I's going, when I's going, when I's going, when I's going, when I's going, when I's going th th th that, when I's going going that, when I's going their, when their, when I It's going to go all that what's happened rather than that is that I've promised Frank and Harry that I will write them a book as well. So I'm now in the middle of Frank's book. Do you know what? That is the most the most bougy promise I've ever read in my life. I promise you. I'll write your book darling. Well my dad wrote two books and one of them didn't have me as the main character. Well he's a bit annoyed because the work in title of the next book is the fart that changed the world. So he's like dad I'm not I maybe don't write me a book. Yeah anyway so Frank's the hero of the next one and I'm halfway through that the moment I'm loving it. And have your kids read it? Yeah they have Franks read it's his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's their. He's their. He's their. He's the their work. He's the work. He's the work. He's the work. He's the work. He's the work. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the work. the work. the work. the work. the work. the the moment. I'm loving it. And have your kids read it? Yeah, they have. Frank's read it four times. He's read because it's perfect his age, yeah, which is either that or he's trying to butter me up because he wants something, but he says he read it four times. Ah. And he absolutely loved it and

you know quotes bits from it. Yeah, I mean it's really daft. It's really silly. I try to make it as funny as possible. It's got a sort of serious undertow, like the two main characters are both suffering a bereavement. But I wanted to write about that kind of thing. Was it a member of a hurling team that are died? Yeah, I must go to get the curse into the next book actually. Yeah, so I wanted to write about, the next book, theyne. to to their to to to their too, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm tho, I'm their, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I've their, their, their, their, their, I've their, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm their. their. their. their. their. their. to. together. together, together, together, together, together, their.a. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. next book actually. Yeah, so I wanted to write about it. It's a very heavy topic, but you know, with as light a touch as possible and to try and write about and make it fun and, you know. Well, yeah, because it's about the two characters in it, they're sort of, the totally, the two characters in it, they're sort of, their two characters in it, their today's, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th..... It, th. It's, the, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, the, to, the, to, the, the, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, try, the, the, the, try, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, to, to read. Yeah I mean I did interview with Mariella Frostrup who said oh well of course your first book I can't do a voice her first book is always autobiographical and I was like what I mean this book's about talking animals and you know lots of people falling off cliffs and stuff it's really mad but yeah I suppose it's just obviously in the back of my mind and for me all the best stuff you know I like comedy obviously I like things thin-the th a th a th a th a th a th a th a th th th th th th th th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the thi the tho- their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the thi thi thi tho. thi tho. thoooooooooooooo. thoooooo-s. thoooo-s. thoo-s. thoo-s. th me, all the best stuff, you know,

I like comedy, obviously, I like things that are funny and I like things to have a bit of depth, you know, because I think you can soften up an audience with laughter and then hopefully sort of, you know, hit them with something more moving. And so anyway, that was the plan to try and write something that, it was an ambitious., you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to to to to to to to to to try and try and write something that it was an ambitious you know thing to try and do for a first book so but obviously death and all that stuff is it has been part of my life my parents

did die young and so it's obviously part of my psyche and it just sort of came out. Do you have like when you're writing for a certain age group? If there like lots of rules in the public. or you just like th th like th th th like th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. thi. thi. I thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. It was, th. It was, th. It was, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. I th. I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi or you just kind of left your own devices on that kind of thing. Yeah, I mean, I got told that I should take out a few bits because they were just too upsetting or violent or... Too raunchy. I mean, because when you write, you can only write, when you write, when you write, when you write it. Jack and Cali, two, two, two, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, I, th, th, I, I'm, I'm, yeah, yeah, yeah, I, yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I t, I t, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I mean, I, I, I, I, I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I t, I, I t siblings dealing with grief so I'm getting off of each other. It's got a bit weird here, Steve. People do it with grief in different ways. Yeah, you wait until the third book.

No, it's, you know, you can only write to make yourself laugh or to me. You can't sit down and pretend you're a 10-year-old and trying to make. You just write stuff that entertains yourself and then the publisher will put gentle hand on your shoulder and go, that's way too weird for a 10 year old. That might be upsetting, that might give the nightmares. And they'll, you know, thank goodness for editors because they come along and they just put that that experienced eye over it. Would you always quite like an academic then? That. that. that. th. th. th. That. th. That. th. That. That. th. th. That. th. That. th. That. th. th. That, th. That, th. That, th. th. th. That, th. That, th. th. th. th. That's, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. That's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th you end up going to Cambridge and stuff like that which is very impressive so would you always like really into academia and and do your kids following that suit or are they a little bit like sort of oh god dad did that I've got to live up to that kind of thing I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't till I was about 11 or 12 and then I you know it was you know it was too you know it was to to to to to to to to to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the got more into other things and the sort of work side of it went.

And then I just put a really, you know, burst in at A-levels for the last minute and it worked. So, you dipped the line. Yeah, I mean, I think they're all, they're all pretty, you know, what you want them is to be interested about the world. You know, you want them them them them them them them them them them them their their their their their their their their their their to have their, to have to have to have their, their, to have to have to have to have their, to have to have to be, to be, their, to be, to be, you're, you're, you're, you know, you know, you know, you're, you're, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the. And you don't want the kid who is, you know, a brilliant academic achiever and has no mates or any interest outside of his work, you know, so you try and encourage them to get into music and to, you know, all the arts and sport and everything, because, you know, they're, I think kids especially nowadays, they have to take their

school life so much more seriously than when I was a kid....., the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you is their, you know, you know, you know, you their, you their, you their, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you think kids especially nowadays, they have to take their school life so much more seriously than when I was a kid. There seems to be so much pressure on children to do well and I don't think the lockdown helped at all. So, yeah, my parents were much more into me, working hard at school because they were immigrants, and they both had to leave school at 14, and they didn't really have much of an it was smart but they had no education at all. My dad came over and was a laborer and my mom was a you know barmaid and so for them like getting an

education was a really big deal but I sort of a bit more relaxed about it I think. Did you go to like an independent school and so did you get a a scholarship to a private school? So did you go to a the to a the the the the the to the local state school and I went to, I got a scholarship to a private school. Oh, well done, man. And then I ended up going to a boarding school, which my parents didn't want me to do at all and very against it. But I thought it'd be like, you know, going to an Anita Blighton story or something.

It'd be all, was it, was horrible. What age? I was only, I was 13, I was 13, I was 13, I was 13, I was 13, I was 13, I was 13, I was 13, I was 13, I was 13, I was 13, I was 13, I was 13, I was 13, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was a to, I was a to, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, oh, to. to. to. to, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh. Oh, oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, was. Oh, well, was. Oh, was. Oh, was. Oh, was. Oh, was. Oh it was horrible. What age? I was 13, so I wasn't that young. Yeah, God, they've seen you know there must have been some wanking going on there, right? Well, I mean there were 50 kids in one room. There was, you had like, there was like stalls, it was like a stable, so you had a little stall, there was 25 beds down each side of the, 50 boys. Sounds like a I mean it was if you could you could have powered the local town off the kinetic energy. Oh God that poor sewage pipe.

You know so that I just, oh what was it like being away at boarding school? It was missed over the first two years I hated it. I absolutely hated it and I because it was my idea because I thought this would have sounded like a laugh. I don't know why I thought it sounded like a laugh. I couldn't tell my parents. I was upset and happy. So I sort of dealt with it all and then the last few, because then we had got away. It was all boy and then girls in the six foes. And then by then I I I I I I I I I I I was all. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It was was was was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was all. It was. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all. It was all boy. It was all boy. It was all boy. It was all boy. It was all boy. It then when you're 16, 17, it's a bit of a different story. Yeah. But those early years, yeah, miserable. Miserable. And so you wouldn't want your kids going to boarding school then?

Well, no, I said that. But if Harry gets any more gobbie, then Lou and I do threaten all threat. That's their their their their their their their their tho. Loo tho. Loo tho. Lo. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thathea. that's. that's. that's. to be to be to be to be miserable. to be miserable. to be miserable. to be to be miserable. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. too. too. That's our go-to threat if any of them are misbehaving. It does shut them up. Really. That Darrow Brian's threat is that he'll go on strictly. Do you think that was Bill Bailey's threat and he had to go through with it? Yeah, and he absolutely nailed it. I've been what's worse? Should that be really bad at it or absolutely nail in it and just my kids find the shaved chest and a tight trousers. Just loving it and then every wedding you go to they all get on the dance lawyer I might as well and they'll all be sick in the bush. Yeah.

And like you've got a spread of ages of kids do they get on well together then? I mean they do. I mean they do. I mean you'll know that there is nothing quite as joyful in the world as one of your children making the other kid really laugh. I mean it's a lovely, but it's as beautiful as them fighting and arguing is awful because you know that when they know each other, oh God, I just try to dement you doesn't? So they are, I mean they both love Jack Jack because he's the little one. He's like a little, I mean we all just poor love and affect him. He's never left alone. He's cuddled, he's kissed. They love playing with him, they tickle him, they, it's a joy.

The two older ones can get on very well and they can also rub each other at the wrong way. But that's, that's brothers. They're just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they, they're just part of the time. I've got four brothers, it's carnage. Right, exactly. So they get on pretty well. I mean, there's quite, like you say, it's quite a spread. I think if you're born one year after another, it's probably a different deal,

but what they're going, they're so, yeah, I did that. Yeah, I've already done that. And we'll tell them what's going to happen and it's that I find really the try and I'm always trying to let them. I'm constantly trying to find things that he can own and, you know, that Harry hasn't already been there and done it. Yeah. Well, I think it's what, do you find it's hard trying to be like sort of laddie? Because you grow up his sister's. Especially when they're all teeny,

it's four blocks. a little mini stacter all the time. And my wife, I mean Lou had three brothers and now she's got three sons. So she knows, I mean she's like, oh this is exactly like it was when I was growing up. You know, everyone's scrapping and fighting and throwing each other around the place. But then I, you know, I had a, my cousin John lived around the wall on a regular basis so I sort of I wasn't totally without masculine you know that really lovely male influence it was like a silver back I mean he picked me up and hurl me and we'd love it I don't know what we thought was hilarious yeah my dad my mate's dad used to we go around there for like sleepovers and for a lot to hang you over the banisters and like punch her on the back and it was a laugh about hanging you by your legs go woo you hang you by your legs yeah yeah

Michael Jackson with that blanket he made me blanket I know looking back that's meant that's mental actually but yeah they are so different aren't they some are very sensitive and some are tougher and you know my boys are great I love them oh bless you know what that's the absolute perfect way to end isn't it with some positivity? Well no the question I always ask is is there one thing that your wife or partner does and nor is you parenting wise that you saw parenting wise yeah not actually as a person but parenting. Drawing up a long line. Yeah she got off of that bloke six months before we got together. That was always would come up.

Before? Okay, so apparently you may have bumped heads over in the past or you haven't brought it out because it's just not worth the row, but a way they do it compared to you and it's more of just an approach thing that's different. Well, she's quite, she's annoyingly good at being a parent, but she does, all her family- Can I say, Stephen, that it's the quickest anyone's ever had something? Really? I didn't even finish the question and you were on it. Most people even pretend to think? No, I'm going straight in there.

She, her family all have this sort of, they run out of energy they're like computers that are just suddenly run out of power. They all, they need to be fed on a regular basis or they kind of, yeah you have some sort of sugar crash but they all, I mean her elder brother Martin will just sort of stare blankly at the wall, you'll have to kind of go and shove a twinkie into his mouth. Do you have twinkies over here? Anyway, in South London not yet. They crossed the river. No, no, they hold up in Blackwall Tunnel, Brexit, HDB short. So the kids, like 20 minutes before dinner,

they'll go, I'm really hungry. And I'll be like, yeah, that's because we're 20 minutes away from dinner. You're supposed to be hungry. That's because 20 minutes minutes they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thoes they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they. they're they're they. they. they're they. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're like. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thooooo. thooooo. th. thooooooooo. they're all all all all. they're they're they're they 20 minutes, so she'll give them, and that drives me absolutely nuts, because then 20 minutes later, they're like, you won't eat your dinner, oh, William, I still be hungry and 20 minutes later they don't eat their dinner. Now I'm saying it out loud, it doesn't sound like. No, I can get it. I can get that. That would annoy me. I think, I don't know, I'm worse at spotting, I mean, you know, she's much better at planning ahead.

I will start getting the dinner ready when they start complaining they're hungry. She will land. So then it takes an hour, there's an hour of pain while they're screaming and punching each other because they're so wound up and hungry. Whereas she will think of that. What time you're having dinner with that range of ages? Six. We have dinner at six.

Yeah, it's just the... And are you eating at six as well? Yeah, I am, yeah. I am. It's like being back in boarding school. I know. But they're not hungry as soon as they come out of school. Well, they get a snack and they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're, and they're, and they're, and they're, and they're, and they're, and they're, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they're, and they're, and they're, and, and they're, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and are, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're eating.... they're they're they're they're they're they're eating. they're they're eating. I mean but they do I mean you do find you need lorry loads of food. I mean it is an increase it's like a plague a locust every day moving through the house. It's incredible. Cheers Stephen Thank you so much.

Absolutely brilliant sortures. My pleasure and we'll make sure we read Escape the rooms. Yes lovely escape the room Stephen Mangan illustrated by Anita Mangan out out 10th of June 2021 it's already out. It's already out. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. It's they. they. they. they. It's. they. It's. It's. It's they. It's. It's the the the the the the the the the the Escape the room, Stephen Mangan, illustrated by Anita Mangan. Out 10th for June 2021. It's already out. It's already out. You can literally go to the shop now and get it. It's a bestseller. Oh, it's a best seller. Well, yeah. Not an adult gambling, like your book, Josh.

Oh, no, I know.the people buying it, you know, it's a risk involved, isn't there? I like him out loud. Do I like him off the page? Let's find out. I should say that I've been filming the split recently and we were filming, I won't say the location, because it's for obvious reasons, but, and then a rumor went round like wildfire one day on set. We were out on location that Josh Whittakum had just been seen leaving the nursery next to where we were filming with a child. Yeah, that makes it sound like his child. He's child. You're still nonsense Josh. You said you'd knock that on the ed end. But yeah, I did walk past them filming and I was like, I was inside crying with Nicola Walker. Are you inside? Got another text of his wife, WTF,

baby scan. Well if you're if you're back on that location do nip into the nursery Stephen and I've not sure the lonely judge that would lack security if I could just pop in. Hi Stephen Mangan here, my friend's kid goes in just what I'd pop in. Hi Stephen Mangan here, my friend's kid goes in, just what I'd pop in. Cheers, Stephen. Good luck with the book, well, you don't need good luck, it's already a bestseller. Escape the rooms out now, get it people. Thank you. Cheers, bye.

Bye. Stephen Mangan. I've never really spoke to him properly because I've only met him on TV shows like here and there, but he's really nice bloke, could he? Lovely bloke, really nice. To think of like that thing of like having three boys and the thought of that third one just popping out at the end. Oh mate, it could be, it could be, could be us soon. You know it might be some pain but it's the podcast, it's the the the the the the the snigh the the the the the thin thin thin thin p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p. thin p. thin p. thin p. the. the' the' the' the' the' the' the' thin' thin' thin' the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thing things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th having a terrible time of my family. I'd say that is the single best thing about this podcast is monetizing my sadness. Every time something's going really badly I think, well there's a positive in this. So if anyone ever sees you like in a posh restaurant or driving a fancy car, you go, look what he's got, but look how sad his eyes are. Anyway, we'll be back to monetize more sadness on Tuesday. It's not just to monetize, is it?

It's good to get it off your chest, Josh. It was a joke. It was just a little joke. Yeah, it's good to get it off the chest. It's a bit echoy. Is that your villa in Portugal? You're in? For the record, you haven't got a villa in Portugal, have you? No. It's technically Spain, it's right on the border.

It's just a bit of fun. It depends which room you're in. It spans the coast. It really does, yeah. One kitchen in Portugal, one in Spain. Don't need two kitchens, why not? I'll do Spanish food in one Portuguese and the other. Do you want tapas or do you want Nandoz?

There is a little TV showbiz world in Portugal, though, isn't there? Do you know about this? Is that? In Deck have got like villas in Portugal and serve Holly Willaby and Philip Schoffield. crew. Bradley Walsh is over there. Oh my word. It's like a little gang of them. I saw Jason Manford went there on holiday and he was with Dion Dublin but I think they're renting and renting. Dion Dublin's BBC mate. You should get Dionne on. I'd love to get Dionne. I love to get Dionne up. Is he got kids? Yeah yeah, it's still listening at this point? If you're still listening? Do write in. No one's still listening. If you still listen to this, just message us, Dionne, Dublin, Dublin, Dublin. And we'll find out if people listen. Right, see

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