Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S03 EP30: Jessie Ware

Episode Date: October 22, 2021

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully, hoa' they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice and of course tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing. Hello you're listening to Parenting Hell with.

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with you mate. Garroth is, he's dealing with a bad name. What he's done is, he said it stops here. He said it stops here. Buddy, Nellarf. Gnow. Gnow. Gnow. G now. G now. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th now. th now. th now. th now. th now. th now. He now. He now. He now. He now. He now. He now. He now. He wants th now. He now. He now. He now. He now. He now. He now. He now. He now. He now. He now. He th th th th th th th th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He wants th. He wants th. He wants th. He wants th. He wants th. He wants th. He wants th. He wants the. He's the. He's thee. He's theee. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He wants the. He wants th. He wants stops here. Buddy, Nell. Garth? Garth is an awful name, let's face it, no offense. We all know it. It ain't Gary. What do you gal, gal for sure? You went like that. Garth, Garth, Garth, Garth, Southgate. But you know what, Buddy and now, he's like, it's the other end of the spectrum, Rob. Oh, and what was the mom called?

Alice, and their surname is Leak. Gariff Leak. A Garth Leak, buddy leak, now leak, and Alice leak. Is that too much information about a family? No, they just put it all in the email. I could steal their their their their their to be called Garriff. That is serious in our offense to all the Garaf's out there but you know you know deep down. Garas Southgate. Buddy Nell, buddy now's great, great buddy now. Sounds a bit like a narly Californian. Yeah. Any other famous Garriff. Garriff Southgate is not cool. He's a fairly sensible, defensively-minded,

I'd say mid-level international manager. Wait, it's the second most successful England manager all time. There's not going now, is it? No, but you know? There are no other Garruf. Garraff Malone, not call. Garraff Gates, not call. Garth Thomas? No, there's not a call Garuff. I'm sorry. There's never been a call Garriff. This is terrible. Garth from the office. Garraff from the office.

There we go. If you are called Garroth. We are sorry. And you think you're a bit cool, let us know. Yeah, and if you've called your child Gareth, what are you doing? Have a word with yourself. Yeah. You can't call it, Garraff Barry? It's not too late to change it to Buddy. No, it's not.

Change your name? I tell you, if you're an adult Garof and you're going to change your name, go for it. We'll support you. Yeah, if Garof Southgate more confident about the World Cup. Buddy Southgate? Buddy Southgate? Immediately more confident, wouldn't you? I can't believe Buddy Southgate's playing seven attacking midfielders, but I suppose that's Buddy Southgate for you, isn't it? He's gone mad. He's got mad. Didn't he changed his name by a deep pole. He's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's a th. He's th. He's a th. He's a monster! We've got nine wingers! Josh, let's do some Instagram messages because we blabbered on, tired and emotional.

And emails, and emails. I've got a great Insta to kick things off with, if you want it. Go on then, why not? Why not? Why the hell not? Here it is. This is about holiday, some people were on. Parenting fail. We took our two-year-old to Turkey with a grandparent and whole extending family. It was an all-inclusive so the toddler was happily getting juice from the bar to fill up her cup the first few days. You know, the ones that look like slush machines. She was incredibly well behaved for the trip.

Napped loads and allowed happened to take her with him one day and the juice cup to the bar. Turns out she'd been drinking sex on the beach. That is astonishing. The hotel swiftly added signs to the machine. That is amazing. That is absolutely amazing. That's terrible, i'm awful. That's so dangerous. Yeah. But so effective, seemingly. No, no, that's not what we're doing here. That's not what we're suggesting. Draw your own conclusions from that. I believe myself think obviously that's terrible.

If you're sitting on the train, listening to this, stroking your beard going, hmm, interesting, you're a bad parent. Do not let your kids drink. Racerly named cocktails. Even the word, cocktail, that's rude for a child's sake. Can have a cocktail? Hi, Rob and Josh, love the podcast. It's giving me endless giggles, just catching up on the Ian Sterling interview with Rob, realizing, are you're far behind?

Realizing the girls have heard the word slight in Mamma Mia, a hundred plus times. Well, embarrassingly, when me and my brother were younger, my mom recorded over part of Harry Potter, I think it was film one or two, where Ron Weasley says, Bloody, so that we wouldn't hear a swear word. So that we wouldn't hear a swear word. What? So she actually edited the film part way through, it was suddenly cut to BBC News and then back to Harry Potter. Amazing, amazing. It was very weird and confusing after realizing none of my friends

had that issue when they watched the same film. I have to remind my mom about it, and it remind her what a weirdo she is for doing it, keep up the good work, Hannah. That is phenomenal. Unbelievable. Bloody, that's bloody's all right, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, that is the, the least of your problems is bloody. Well, I think it would be, if my daughter went, oh, I'll go, how was school? Oh, I had a bloody nightmare at Funky jazz. censoring Harry Potter. Yeah but maybe you know these children weren't drawing Dix on post-it notes and passing them through the house. Let's be honest

Rob you've already lost the battle bloody so far in the distance from the situation you're in now. She's drawing Dix too soon. That's I've got to sort it out. It could be worse. She could be doing pubs and it's spunking but she's not. Oh it's not far off is it is not far. It's not far. It's not far. It's not far. It's not. It's not. It's not far. It's not. It's not far. It's not. It's not far. It's not far. It's not. It's not. It's not far. It's not far. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thee. the. theeeeeeeeeeeeeee. thee. thee. the. the. the. the the. the secondary school. God. Don't stop it. I'm panicking. I'm panicking now. Josh, got some emails. Yeah. Do you remember the person who fell asleep at the dentist? Oh yes, because she was so tired and they did a filling. Yeah. Joe from Somerset, I'd been up all night with my vomiting three-year-old. The following morning, I was due for an MRI scan on my back. This was a scannenenenenenenenenenenenenenenene. to to to to to to to the to the to the to the to the the to to the the the to to the to the to to to to to to to the to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. I th. I the. the. theat. theat. thean. thean. thean. thean. tooooooooooooo' to to to th. I what to expect had no problems with the noise or feelings of claustrophobia. Settle down on the bed, moved into the scanner machine and immediately nodded off. Oh, what a lovely place to go to sleep.

What a way for an MRI that is! People panicking about being in that tube, she's just gone fully asleep. The MRI technician woke me up halfway to her. I went straight back to sleep again. I came out, fast out through panic. I came out, feeling refreshed and ready to take on the world again. Best sleep in months, Joe from Somerset. Have you ever had an MRI? Do you know what? I'd love an MRI at the moment. Ma'a' too'er? the today. tho' thrown. talk to you. It's glorious. That is bad in it. How busy are you? I've booked him for an MRI this afternoon. What's wrong? Nothing, just tired. Like an easy jet hotel. Have you ever had one, Rob?

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Oh yeah, I seem to remember Sir Kell a lot from his role in doctors. That all rules. Immobilization, aggression, damage. Oh what the names? Here we are. No, I think this is the American one, but yeah, Matilda. Jeremy Clarkson used to present it. Did he? Clarkson, Pierce, Charles, O'Brien and Scanlon. Yeah. House robots, dead metal, growler, Matilda. They all sound like grinder names.

Sergeant Bash, Mr. Saucco. Ref-Bot, shunt! Shunt. Dead metal, Cassius Chrome. Is that a pun on Cassius Clay? Yeah, but it's a terrible pun, isn't it? Oh, what was its strengths, fastest house robot, weaknesses, it did go and strike during the Vietnam War.

Fair enough, Cassius Croam. I don't even understand this. He's actually, oh no, actually, sorry, it's not Cassius Crom anymore, it's a Mohammed Metal Arnay? Here is an admission, Rob. Yep. I didn't give a fuck about robot wars. I didn't care about robot wars. I love robot wars. I thought you'd be all over it.

On paper, you'd think I'd love robot wars. And on metal? And on metal. I didn't care about it. No. Why not? I found it quite boring. I quite like destruction. Is that one of the robots? No, no, no, that's that's...

You mean the concept? Yeah. I'm sorry. We've got five minutes on a robot. Oh yeah, we should do what you said the other day, Rob, to be in tech. Let's do that. I mean, I've enjoyed this. The Big Brother won robot wars. If you want a subject for us to mine dump on from nostalgia,

make TV from the past, let us know. And we'll do nostalgia dump on it. Yeah. We've them in. Michael, we won't have had an email by her next week because we're recording it in advance. So, Michael, you can choose the topic for next, next Tuesdays. Let us know what, Michael, have a thing. Okay, great. I'll have a thing. Right. Okay, here's Jesse Ware. I don't know what this podcast is anymore, Josh. We don't talk about kids. Jesse Ware. to do the today. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. to. to. to. to to to to. the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. the. today. today. today. today. today. today. today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, t got kids. Exactly, yeah. See you next week to talk about what lasts for the summer wine. Bye. How artbeat. Greengrass? I'm not going back to university to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber 1 for students. It saves you on Uber and Uber eats. I'm there for zero dollar delivery fee on cheeseburgers, up to 5% off smoothies and 5% Uber

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I haven't got any. You've got more you've got three children and yes. Yes. Yes. We know that that's good is that correct. that's good is that correct. It is correct. I've got a five- rate went up there as you said all those, I could feel myself getting a bit more stress. I mean, yeah, how old are yours? Yours are in school now, right? Yeah, I've got a five-year-old in year one of school and then I've got a five-year-old who's like in nursery, nearly four, so she's in like three or four days a week, so pretty much in school now, which is groundbreaking. You've got a kind a kind a kind a kind a kind a kind a the look close. You look like a different person to the other two people here. I might sit this one out guys. I don't feel like I've got... Good for you.

Me, I've got a three-year-old and a four-month-old. So I'm not a million miles from you. No. Also, I've got to do the school run too whilst also implementing the afternoon nap in the sling because I'm I've got a whole system I'm like militant with this third one. I don't know about you Josh how are you doing with the four month old do you feel like you're being stricter with the old the old sketch or have you got no sketch? We we't got, he doesn't seem to be into sleeping in the daytime which is pretty oppressive. So his record nap so far is 45 minutes which is not long enough. No you can't you can't get through an episode of anything on Netflix with that. No exactly. Yeah it's not long enough.

How about you so you're going for, have you got a clear schedule? So what are you on, two and a half months basically? Yeah, I feel, and I know this will divide people that listen and I apologize in advance. I tried with my first one to like do the thing where she was like, you know, I'm a pop star, she's gotta be on the road. You know, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm I'm I'm I'm like, I'm I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm a th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm th. I'm like, I'm like, I'm th. I'm like, I'm th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm I'm I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a, jam with the musicians at 10 o'clock at night. And that shit didn't work. So then I realized a hard way when she hadn't slept through the night until like, what, like, 10 months.

And then second one was a little bit more like, you know, bad cop. And then this one I was like, mate, you got to like fit in. Wow. Full Russell cane, thus. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It was, th. It was, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, I was, th. It's, th. It's, I was, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. here. Full Russell Kane. Oh, is that what Russell Kane does? Okay. Well, Russell Kane managed to get his child to sleep through the night for 10 hours within about 45 minutes of delivery with a technique where it's not about getting them to sleep, it's about keeping them awake so they're tired for bedtime. Blackout blinds, air conditioning, and flannels on their feet to wake them up if they do nod off before bedtime. Yeah, he got it from Granthano Bay, his technique. But he stands by and it has work for him, so you know, you can't judge anyone in this game.

Listen, maybe I'll try the flannels. Yeah, you're straight onto Amazon to order 10 flannels. Russell. How cold is the water? You know what, like, yeah, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th nice? I'm cold. You know what, like, yeah, I think my youngest is realized he needs to just put up and shut up and he just watches because my son is an incredibly noisy two and a half year old and so he makes enough noise for all of us. Okay. And also that's middle, now you've got a middle child on your hand. You had a youngest three months ago. And I'm a middle child and I'm here to tell you what happened. You are just worse because you have to fight for more attention.

I disagree with you because I am a middle child and I am the best child of all my mum's children. So I don't know what you're fucking about. But no, my son, yeah, he's struggling with, I think he's struggling, bless him, he's done all right. The five-year-olds just kind of thinks that he's a dolly and she likes it. And she goes like this to me, she goes, mom, I think he needs feeding.

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It's too much for me. But I remember when my daughter saw it first time and her older cousin said, when when Simba's dad is dying and it's written. And my daughter went, he's just sleeping. And her cousin was like, he's dead. And I think, yeah, she got some hard truths. Oh God. Did it need such a brutal tienionionionionionionion, to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. their th. th. th she got some hard truths. Oh God. Did it need such a brutal death? Because there's an old lion dying,

and then there's been trampled to death by Wilderbeast. So you're saying, Rob, that you think the lack of success of the Lion King is they've misjudged how they put that film together. Yeah, I just think, you know, if they've they've they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got got they've got they've got it they've got it they've got it they've got it they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got So you've got a tour coming up and presumably you're taking your baby on the tour. How's that going to play out sleep wise? So I've been quite strict with this schedule which I know really divides the crowd and it's you know a bonus. Torwise? My mother well my mom is like you know she always just thinks the baby's hungry and and all that so anyway I've been quite strict and actually not Jean affording it like like like like like like like like it like it like it like like the th th th. like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. How the baby. How the baby the baby to to to the baby. How to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. How. How's the baby. How's the baby. How's the the the the the the toy. I toy. I tou. I'm ty. I'm. I'm ty. I'm tou. ty. toy. toy. toy. I's toy. the baby's hungry and all that. So anyway,

I've been quite strict and actually, not Gina Fording it, like he never cries, but he's amazing sleeper, but like yeah, he's kind of nearly sleeping through the night. So I'm fingers crossed by kind of that, oh, that four month regression when I'm going on tour. Amazing. But yeah, I'm going to take him. So the baby will be in the baby the baby the baby to be the baby to be the baby the baby to be the baby the baby the baby to be the baby the baby will the baby will the baby will the baby will the baby will the baby the baby will the baby the baby the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tourn. toura. touraugh. tour. tour. tour. tour. tour. tour. tour. tour. tour. tour. tour. their their their their their their t to take him. So the baby will be in the rehearsals with me, kind of doing some jazz hands with me, and then the baby will come and tour, but the other two won't. But I don't know how I'm not, I'm gonna not be able to see the other two

because I'll kind of have to isolate fully, like me and the kids are bringing back I don't know if you've had Norro recently like we've all been having Norro in Southeast London so that's going around and then it's like I'm in New Cross oh yeah oh yeah yeah so we're down in Bromley way now a bit further out oh where is everyone trying to get into Emma Radikarno school yeah that she's around the corner not seen her. I literally googled which school she went to. I was like, could I get in? Is the catchment okay? Yeah, they're all, none of them can read all right, but that's tennis, yeah, a lunchtime is. Off the chart. Are you breastfeeding then, with this one? Or like, so could you not leave because my boobs just never have worked properly? th okay? Is, th okay? Is, th. th. th. Is, th. Is, th. Is, th. I, th. Is, th. Is, th. Is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, could, could, is thi, is thi, is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is the the the the the the the the their, could I, could I, could I, could I, could like, could, could, could, could, could, could, could, could, could, could I, could, could, could I, could I, could, could I, could I, could I, could I, could I, could I, do you think like, well I'm mixed feeling because my boobs just never have worked properly.

And actually that kind of works kind of well in the fact that my husband can then give them a bottle so I kind of do a bit of both. I like to say the boob is like a kind of an Amuzbush or a side salad. So, um, but yeah, so I could leave the baby at home, but I kind of don't, I don't feel like I can be away from him for that long, even though my husband's like, how long's the tour? Well, it's only like 10 days, but I just, I don't know. I think you're over rehearsing, Jesse. Just go out there and bang out, the to'n't th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'a, I'a, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm, I don't, I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I th, I th, I th, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, t..... t. t. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to I love you so your partner will have the other two school runs and all that

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that he would, he'd kind of get up with her. And it was like my husband was there and I brought my brother along but my brother had such a great time on grind her he was barely like into babysitting. He was really. He was like like like like like like like like like like. He was like. He was like. I. I. th. th. th. th. I. th. I th. th. th. I was th. I was th. th. th. th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was thi. I was thi. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I was th. I was theat. I was theat. I was theat. I was theat. I was theat. I was theat. I was theat. I was theat. I was theat. I was the th Berlin. He was like, I'm not doing, I'm not doing bedtime tonight because it's pinging off. Exactly. It sounds driving the bus. I'm going to burn you, Nick. So we did it and it was a bit like crazy camping and it was highly stressful but kind of amazing. Sadly, she doesn't remember any of it. But I would kind of go right, night, she'd have kind of dinner with us and I'd say night night and then it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was th. it was when it was th. it was when it was when it was when it was th. I'd the, I'd th. I'd the, I'd the, I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd to to the th. I'm not to to to to th. I'm not. I'm not th. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm she'd have kind of dinner with us and I'd say night night and then it was when it was bedtime I'd go and get my makeup done and then I kind of have to switch from like mum mode to pop star where yeah this time yeah it's

going to be exactly the same and that's kind of why I needed my little man to have a really good schedule so he could feel really comfortable to be like right okay this is bedtime. It's so stressful. It's yeah, it's I mean I watched Pink's documentary which was really amazing and I was like oh my god just gonna be like that and then I remembered I'm playing academies not stadiums. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I remember reading that Paul and Linda McCartney, to Paul and Linda McCartney when they got together never spent a night apart for the rest of their lives.

So, and she was in wings and they would take their three kids just on all of their tours. I can't think of anything worse. No. For the parents and the kids, do you know what I mean? Listening to wings every night. Do some the old stuff, dad, fucks sake. Come on. Wings again, Jesus Christ. Oh man. Yeah, it means it's exhausting. Have you never had any of your kids come on your... No, well we don't really tour that way where we, well you know, you do, we don't really do a big European tours. I'm going to Australia to tour next year but I'll to to to to to to th, it to to to th, it to to th, it's to to to to to to to to to to th, it's to to to to to th, it's to to to to to to to to to th th to to th th to th th th their th th th th to th fu th fu tho, th fu their their their, their, their, their, their, th fu th fu th fu th fu th fu th f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too, tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, too, to, that way where we, well you know, you do, we don't really do a big European tour. So I'm going to Australia to tour next year, but I'll go on my own for like two and a half

weeks and get it all done where it's not worth bringing them I don't think. And like, because you're not doing one thing the other I think. You're not on holiday with them. I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, but, but, but, but, but, I'll, I'll, I'll, but, but, I'll, but, I'll, but, I'll, but, I'll, but, but, but, but, I'll, but, but, but, but, but, I'll, but, but, I'll, but, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, to..... to. to. to. th. to have time on your own away from your partner and your kids and vice versa. So I'd rather go to Australia and do that and then come back, Ludo over her friends and then we have a proper two-week holiday somewhere as a family rather than try to do it all at once all the time, you know. Saying that, I am taking them to Dubai to do gigs in a couple of weeks, but... I need to ask you thr- though though though though tho to ask to ask to ask how to ask how to ask how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how it to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the their to to to to to to to to to to to to the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to to take because now my daughter's in reception yeah this whole thing about like if I'm going to do work then can they come out or is it like I see I don't know that do you get fined I've done it because it's just half term anyway so that's when the gig was so it's lucky how it felt like are are you factoring that in though like that you go we had to reschedule it because of COVID. You said can we do it during term time so I don't have to take them but it all went wrong. Yeah exactly it all.

exactly it all went wrong but but no I just said oh can we do that October half term and I think because the buyer is a bit more holidays that it's such a holiday destination there's there's quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite it's quite it's quite it's quite it's quite it's quite it's quite there's quite a the there's quite the there's quite the the there's quite a the the there's quite a their their their their their their their their their their their they's quite a they's quite a they's quite a they's quite a they's they's they's they's a they's a they's a they's a they's a they's a they's a they's a they's they's they's they's they's they's quite a they's quite a they's quite a they's quite they's quite they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's their their their their today. their today. their their their their their their their their their their their their they're they're they're they're they're on holiday but. And do you think they'll come to the gig? I think it'll be more Brits that live over there already. I don't know, no, no, I don't mean kids. I mean your daughters. Just for the demographic, I wasn't worried about your sales. I wasn't their gig. No, no, no, they won it's exciting seeing their mom dancing like it strictly with the music and it's disco and lights and all the other dancers. I just shuffle out and complain

about my body and my mind to a few hundred people every night. It's not really the same thing. It's just me talking but no one interructing so it's not. I think there's like definitely my daughter's at the age where she'll now maybe understand that like she needs to be where she'll now maybe understand that like she needs to be nice to me because people adore me and and so I'm basically doing it as a lesson. Yeah so I'm gonna make her with her bloody sofa on the side of the stage go look at how many people like your mummy so don't you read to me. Don't watch me watch the people that like me okay because actually some people like me in this world. Exactly but I I mean, I think she'll understand.

My son will be like, I want to watch fireman and Sam. And also he's too young, he'll fall asleep. I think she'll fall asleep too. But let me try it. When you're not on tour, like so, what's the sort of set're doing tour and it's it a bit all over the place? It's chaos but it's our kind of chaos that we quite like but my husband's a personal trainer and he's also a really great man for putting up with my jobs that kind of take me everywhere and anywhere

so he's an amazing dad but I he's fucked it because what I fucked, basically when we had the case of Noro and my daughter's shitting on the Seisle staircase, which I tell you, getting diarrhea out of Seisil is a bugger. What's Seizle? Seizle? It really seeps in and it's a really good one for staining. Yeah, okay. It's rough and has kind of ridges so you know you're trying to scrape anyway so that happened oh fucking hell sorry I was just that just that imagery just hit as you said sorry so my husband's also yes exactly my husband's a Virgo and he

can't he's a bit of a clen I'm a slob and I can't live in I don't think you have to be a Virgo to know that they're shit in your carpet though Jess I don't think the star the star the star the star the star the star the the the the the the the the the the th is th is the th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm just thi. I'm th. I'm just just just th. I'm just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just. I's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm the the the the the the in your carpet though, Jesse. I don't think the star signs get up. I mean, you know, if you're into star signs, that's on you, but I'm just sad. I'm a Capricorn so I don't mind shit on a carpet. Yeah, I'm punk cancer. Sick shit, bring it on. I'm a chill. So basically he was running up and down the stairs. much because I'm like oh I'm feeding. So fucking matey bloody fucked his knee he's got this besiastus besiatus thing the other word for it is housemaids

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when you are being treated like that? I don't know if that's your experience, but and then you come home and it's, you've got to be much, you've got to did the Paralympic Homecoming, Chase and Status were two minutes late to go on stage and we had to fill. And I've never forgiven them. Two minutes late, who do you think you are?

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He still knows what's good for it. He seems to be walking all right to me? He seems to be both walking okay. Do you want to know how have I readjusted from being pop star and mom and having things done for me? Am I, am I, you know, do you think I am, you know, I can really switch. I wish I filmed you putting the bins out last night. That was the first time in two years. I've seen that. Did you hear that? You filmed in about two years. Look, his, the bins are his thing. Well, yeah, the bins the bins are his, the bins are his, the bins are his, tha. tha. th. th. th. th. the bins are th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm, th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. Well, yeah, we can tell he's injured. He's so good at it. So good at putting the bins out. But anyway, yeah, yeah, I mean, look, I took the bins out last night, you know.

I'm... Yeah, I'm... She has a re-adjusted. She had to read him, baby. I mean, it's telling that he he actually, he he the bins out. Listen, he was shocked. We were all shocked. And is that because of his knee? Were the bins too heavy for his knee? Mate, he's really milking it and I'm just letting him like, I'm indulging him a bit. Like he had it elevated and he was watching the city match. So I't done the bins for two years, so you know. Two years, that he said.

I owe him. You enjoy Man City Losing. I have had some fun. I mean, look, like we, there's, I'd like to say we're a team, he'd be like I'm your slave. But I, we are a team. I do the cooking and I am the person that organizes organ organ organ organ organ organ organ organ organ organ organ organ that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that I that I that's the person that organises like the shop which as you discussed is you know on your What's it your Ricardo ad it's highly stressful It's stressful getting the show stressful. Yeah though a cardo do make it easy I should say

with a brilliant range of overrange goods. Yeah, we'd love a cardo. You do the shop and you do the cooking is that right you said? Yeah and I do the like organizing play dates which are mental load stuff. I? I yeah, I feel. I I I I th, I feel, I feel, I th, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, what, what right? You said? Yeah, and I do the like organizing play dates, which are... Mental load stuff. I, yeah, I feel like I do the mental load. He's like much better, he's more fun than me, like he's the one that fucking amps them up before bedtime and I'm like mistrunchable. It's like, okay, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's, it's, it's, it's. It. It. It. It's, it's, it's, it's. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the. It's not, it's not, it's not. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the mental. the mental. the mental. the the the theickling and having fun and I'm the bad cop all the time but no we kind of work I don't know we're a team we've also been together since we were 18 so wow we we know each other you know so well that I can't get away with too much shit I definitely try though

you've got a very close relationship with your mom yes and so what have you learned from like your upbringing that you've applied to your own parenting? What is it that's meant that you and your mom are so close now? Well you always like that? Food. She's really good cook and I think she's, no she's amazing. My mom is really inspiring. She's a thiii. thrown, like she's a thrown. thrown, thrown, thi thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-s, thr-s, thrown, thr-s, throwne, thr-s, thr-s, thoomomomomomorrow, thoom-s thoomomom-s thoomomomomomomomomomomomomomom, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thii, thi, thi, thi, I think she was really inspiring, she really brought us up on her own and it was three of us and she's a social worker and she's a brilliant woman but she's also kind of completely sassy and brilliant and I think when I started the podcast you know I knew people would warm to her and she's kind of the best for conversation. Actually we've got to have you on the podcast we're desperate to have you on. And we cook you a and it's like, you know, it's a nice, it's a nice evening. Very nice. Also I was like South East London so I'll be home in 15. Exactly. Lovely. I'm like, no,

if you're talking at our gate, I'm probably not going to do it. But new cross, I'm in. You have to wait until my kitchen's done then. So that's going. You have to be to be to be to be. to be. to be. the new. to be. the new. the the to be. the the their. their. their. their. their. their. to. to to their. to to to to to their. their. their their. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. It's a nice. I. It's a nice. I's a nice. I's a nice. I's a nice. It's a that works for you. Oh no, it's a nightmare. Not especially with the fuel shortage, yeah. God, have you tried to get fuel? No, I've just realized how little I use my car that I've realized that I can live without my car. All of a sudden. Do you feel quite smug about that, Josh? No, I just feel like I've minute, if I'm not willing to wait 45 minutes for petrol, how much do I need this car that I've gone? Do you know what, if I don't use my car for two months, it's fine. It doesn't make any difference, I'll just get in a cab. Oh, I've got electric ones, I feel a bit smug. Oh my god, they were very good memes going around last week about that. Well, who knew out of us three? I I I biggest hipster with my electric car. You know you dinosaur juices chugging around them dinosaur juice. Yeah so what because obviously she like you said she sort of brought you up sort of almost as a single parent is that right so she had to

do it all. Yeah she's amazing and I think I kind of learned from her she always told us thi. told us to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to to to their to their. to to to to their. to to to to to to to to to to to their. to to to to to their. to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I........................................................................... She took us places. We always went on holidays or we went and did kind of fun things at the weekend. We were always making her take us to the Trocadero. Do you remember than that was really popular? Yeah. And alien war she was having to do like every week. And I just kind of, I love her for that. I love her for th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho the thi thi thi the the the the tho tho tho- tho- tho- thi thi thi th thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to ths whilst always having a good cooked meal and I don't know she made it look effortless because I bloody require maty who's out of action and a host of other people to help me I can't do it and I can't imagine how she did it all on her own when it's such it's full on it's amazing in it it blows my mind stuff like that I I kind of go, am I just soft? Do you know what I mean? Am I just?

Yes, I'll eat you like. Alright, fine. No, I'm joking. You're not soft, you know, I'm joking. And your other podcast, your new podcast, should I say, is it normal? Oh yeah. This is a great idea. So this is, each podcast takes and then we do like week by week because we kind of introduce things about you know induction methods, pain relief, you know, dolers so we kind of have a whole span of... It's such a good idea.

It really spans, yeah, I mean look, it's definitely not me being prescriptive and telling people what to do, it's me asking the questions, speaking to experts and try to make it as broad as possible, you know, some some want to have, you know, dim lights, have known pain relief, have, you know, chanting, I don't know, singing bowls and all that, and then the other people may have one, all the drugs in the world or have an elective c-section. It's like any, everyone wants something different. And so we're just kind of offering all this information that takes you through through through through th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you to tho, their, to their, to, their, their, their, their, their, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, their, their, their, their, their this information that takes you through your pregnancy where I speak to a midwife and an obstetrician kind of re-alternate and just hear what's going on. And then we kind of, you know, gear up to the big day.

Oh, that's great. There's a little companion piece of people going through the pregnancy each week. Yeah, and I think also like, you know, especially when we were doing it, it was a time when, you know, we were in lockdown, like fully lockdown, that miserable, you know, that January. So was she pregnant for the whole of lockdown basically? Yeah, I was pregnant from November, I think, yeah, like October, November, yeah. And so I, I think it was that need for kind of a, some kind of continuity that I think lots of, you know, pregnant people really, really want during their pregnancy. They want to see the same midwife. And sometimes they can't, and that's completely understandable.

But I just wanted to that reassuring voice and those voices in their ear. Yes. And to show that everything is completely normal, even if you think that your boobs are a bit too itchy, oh, somebody else has got an itchy boob. You know, you don't want to have sex to your husband, no worries. Nobody wants to have sex with their husbands when they're pregnant. Like- I don't have to give this podcast a Lou, you've done two already. One for each of us?

But yeah, it's more Lou than me but like we found it quite a stress to experience there's so many worries if you're already a bit of an anxious person yeah absolutely. Amplified and stuff. You told me that you found it you said it was actually more stressful for you than Lou didn't you I didn't enjoy it now that's the only thing about being a dad where I want to be like I'm a the only. the only. the only. the only. the only the only the only the only the only. I'm the only. I'm the only. I'm the only. I'm the only. I'm the only. I'm the only. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I that's. I that's. I that's. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the only the only the only the only the only the only th. the only the only th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the only. th. the the the only. the thi. the thi. the the thi. the thi. th you know, I'm fully involved sort of modern dad, but if I had to be 1950s dad, if I, if you're allowed one 1950s dad card, it would be being in the pub for the labor. That's the one I'm playing. Out of all the ones you can play, you know, like of the old score, I just, I just, I hated every second of it and just couldn't wait to get out of the hospital quicker. I just found it. Really? Total loss of control, didn't know what was doing. I didn't enjoy any of it, just wanted the baby out and dressed and in the car.

I didn't enjoy it at all really. How did Lou find it? The same, but the second one was a bit better,ed in the room she got left alone and we had to run around try to find a midwife and then she came out and it was was it the muconium is it muconium in? Maconium yes they had to get the pediatrician and they immediately went to the pediatrician and that had to check and then had to check for the hearing because so It wasn't a laugh, that was. No, it was. It was highly everything that happened. And I forgot the fucking red book, and I had to drive home to get it, and everything was a fucking nut. That fucking red book gets lost. Put it online for fuck sake!

Jesus! Fucking red book! Fu-In't got! The one people that have to remember paperwork are people with like a six-week-old baby. I know they shouldn't have to remember paperwork. I know, you're so right. Oh, I hated it. But I think we had a bit of a traumatic experience with the, and some people love it.

We had Charlotte Churchill and he's had an amazing time with a couple of kids and then the third one was a bit more problematic But I found that very stressful. How was it for you, the labors? Well, like, that's the thing. I think you're so, you're so right. It's so, every pregnancy and birth is different, even if this is gonna be your second or third, like you just never know what's gonna happen. And it's that like giving over, to have as much information as possible so you kind of hopefully understand so you can maybe

rationalize it but I don't know. Yeah, no, I feel very lucky I've had pretty straightforward births and yeah mine have been all right. But that's the thing, but then you should, but that's fine though, that you shouldn't feel bad about having that. That's like it's your experience and just because some people I have not enjoyed it you can really enjoy it and for some people it's a great experience. I think as well on top of the fact that... The ring of fire is never enjoyable. I mean that is fucking horrendous every time, but yeah, I mean, yeah, anyway. Yeah, the pain's never enjoyed. But I do find, I think, as well, at that point, I think, was in a very different, like six years ago of like mental state of where I was so that on top just sort of went a lot of

volcano sort of over exploded whereas now if we were to have another one I'd be even if it was quite stressful I think I'm in a much better mental space to deal with it and calm myself down rather than getting over overwhelmed and stuff it was just but you've chilled out a lot since your two kids went to school and you just sit around all day oh yeah I'm fine now I don't thi tho but yeah, at the time. Well, her daughters broke and all of the trousers got wet, obviously, and then I panicked, so I took my trousers off and gave them to us in the corridor. I was a man on the end. I was a man's the last thing you need. Oh, mate.

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I was like right I'm not gonna, this is how it's probably gonna go and that's how it's gone again and I'm okay I've made peace with it this time. Would you consider doing the podcast like beyond the pregnancy, like for the pregnancy or something? Yeah? I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that that I'm that that I'm not I'm not I'm not that that that th. I'm not I'm not th. I'm not that th. I'm not that that that that that th. that th. that that that that th. I'm not that that that that th. I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. I that that that that that th. I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not th. I'm not thr. I'm not thrown. I'm not the. I'm not thr. I'm not thrown. I'm not the. I'm not thr. I'm not what I think I am so obsessed by pregnancy and giving birth I kind of I think that I would love to train as a midwife I would absolutely I adore it I'm obsessed and the postnatal bit I'm kind of I don't know I think what I wanted to do is I also really enjoy being in the moment with him and not feeling like I was kind of prescribed work to it and you know what I mean and also I think there's I there there there there there there there there there there there there there's I there's I there's I there's I there's I there's I there's I th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii thiiii thi thi thi thi thi th kind of prescribed work to it. Yeah, true. You know what I mean? And also I think there's so many other people that are doing the post-natal stuff so well as they are doing people are doing great stuff with pregnancy too and birth but I just I think also I was a bit like,

I can't be fucking asked I'm already like, is that really bad? No I think it's nice because that it's that it's that it, listen to Jesse wears pregnancy thing, and then they could go with you, and it's our standalone thing that you produced in lockdown, you know, it's a great thing-to-o'- Yeah, and also I think like, maybe there's somebody else that could do, and is it normal we get somebody to do a post-natal one. But for me, I was th for, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, thurn, thurn, thurn, thu, thu, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thrown, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. And, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, and, th, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thean, to, to, to, to, to to to to to thean, to thean, thoan, thoan, tho. the, have many other hats that I wear and I don't need to be that as well. I've not heard that word before. A mum fluencer? Oh yeah. Are we dad fluencers? Oh god no! I don't know, maybe you are. I don't think I've ever influenced anyone. I think we influence in a different way. We're not really talking about like great sort of techniques. We're telling everyone to burn to burn to burn to burn to burn to burn the to burn the to burn the to burn the the to to the the the to the to the the to be the the the the the to be the the to be inf. I'm, the to be inf. I'm, the to be influe. I'm, their, their, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I, I, I, I, I, I the th. I'm, I'm th. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. thoomoomoomoomorrow, thoomoomorrow, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, toe. thooomorrow, thoomorrow, thoom sort of techniques. We're telling everyone to burn the red book first. Yeah. So I feel like yeah. Do you know what? that's what? If everyone stood up and burnt the red book together. Yeah, but the first two months of that, the

admin at the hospital would be an absolute nightmare. You'd come back with the wrong one. Rob have started burning the red book. Red Good Britain's laying on the M25 of red books. No, we must stop traffic to get rid of the red books. Is there any tips though? Obviously I think a lot of people listening to this, especially pregnant women or people think about getting pregnant, like any tips from your podcast? They'll obviously listened to it in full but that cropped up that you weren't, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th listen to it in full but that that cropped up that you weren't aware or even though it was your third, there's only sort of things that come out that really cut through. I think that just there are so many different reactions and symptoms during pregnancy that we have merely scratched the surface of right? We got lots of people to put in voice notes

of saying is it normal that I have funky discharge or is it normal, I didn't get, I mean, these are people that, is it normal that I just want to eat best you male sauce like, I mean, I feel like I need to get away from discharge and bestromel sauce. I need to kind of go. Oh yeah, they're too similar, sorry. Yeah, sorry. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's like, it's like, it's, it's, it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it. It's, it. It's piss now. I think what I learned was just that everyone's pregnancy journey is so different and there's so much amazing information out there and people that can help and you can access that. Yes. Privately or for through charities and I think that was what was really amazing to see how many people there are out there.

If you want that help you can access it. Well I think that's why podcast is so good because there's so much of it you can do whatever you want on it. You can talk about things that you maybe one there wouldn't be a platform to do it. to do it on like, if I'm not the week, I can't really talk about, oh my god, this happened with my late, you know. And as comedon, and as comedon, and as comedon, and as comed. And as comed. And as I, and as I, thian, thia, thia, thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, thi, thi, that's that's that's thia, thinks, thinks, thi, you can't that, that, that, you can't thin, you can't thin, you can't thin, you can't thin, you can't thin, you can't thi, you can't thi, you can't can't can't can't can't is is thi, you can't is thi, you can't is thi, you can't is thi, you can't is thi, you can't is so, you can't is so, you can't is so, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't thin, you can't thin, you can't th. that, you can't that, you can't that, you know, you can't that, you can't that, you can't that, you can't th more honest and because it's so niche, you know, getting that show which is like week by week, that is the week and a whole episode dedicated to that week of pregnancy which for a majority of the country of like, oh that's a bit quite specific but for that person it's the best podguards in the entire world to listen to. So it's sort of just offering those really, you know those moments in time. I the the the the the moment. I the moment. I the moment. I the moment, I the moment, I th so th so th so th so th so th. I's sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, tho, th. So, tho, tho, th. So, th. So, th. So, tho, th. So, thoom, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, to, to, tod. So, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, the wo. just going to dip in I'm going to do weeks 12 to 14 and weeks 24 to 26 and then just leave the rest of it. Just enjoy just a couple of episodes. Well I have to say guys like you know the pregnancy broadcast is definitely a

niche thing. It's mainly for people that are expecting right. I mean you're welcome to join us if you're not but like you know you may be interested but it's really funny because you know yours is a the the the the the, somebody at my management, Kirstie, who is 24, she's obsessed with this podcast. She definitely, she doesn't have any children, she doesn't have a boyfriend, she fucking loves it. So you are breaking the mold of like, you know, other people, loads of people are listening. Do you know what, we get loads of people who You're brilliant. Yeah, you're brilliant. Oh, thank you. Imagine if you got together with someone at 24 and then you looked at their phone and they were listening to parenting podcasts exclusively. Yeah, I'm just working through Jesse where has parents proffi.

Yeah, exactly. It's like, it's not that pressure of podcast, I think so. But I think I do think, no, with parenting, and same, you know, like pregnancy and stuff like that, it's just like, with parenting, everyone's influenced by parenting, aren't they, to a point, rather, you know, you've got parents, you might want to be a parent,

but if you don't want twice a week right? Yeah. Is that quite, do you just, I mean that's the joy of podcast it doesn't really feel like work right? Yeah, lovely conversation. Well yeah I'm talking anyway so I might so all recall it. There's been a couple of interviews that really felt like work I'll tell you that. Oh mate I know I know I I I I that I that I that I that I that I that I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that that's that that that that that that that that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the th th. the the the the the the the the the the the thooooooooooo the that's the that's that that's that that's that's that's, yeah. Yeah. When the blood drains from your legs, five minutes in. Try having a whole fucking first, second and third course with them. Fuck it, L. Oh my God. Should we get to pudding?

Yeah. We just got nachos today. We'll just share that. No, we do it twice a week. But it's just become like talking about our lives in a way, do you know what I mean? Like a verbal diary isn't it sort of thing, catch me. What I like about it from our point of view is like, if you're having a terrible time on a Sunday, I can't, I'm just like, I can't wait to tell Josh about this on Monday. useful for your podcast and your work rather than just doing something horrible. I mean have you found that you've got loads of material for you know your

stand-up stuff and or do you kind of go nope that's for parenting hell that's for bromide? I think it's much more anecdotal like parenting hell do you know what I mean? I haven't used any in standup I don't know about you Rob. What I find is with a podcast it's so it's sort of the energy of your emotion is what sells a bit, whereas on stage of night you need it needs to be functionally a good joke because by the third month that energy of emotion's gone, where I'll tell a story on here that will be funny, or just a funny, but it's only really funny because in that moment I can see in Josh's eyes that he feels and means every part of it and then sometimes you can tell them on stage but like odd stuff that happens to me with my kids I will tell on stage maybe in the opening section about fucking

out I've had a nightmare day because it's the immediacy of that energy of this just happened where sometimes we've just they just need to work in and out of jokes you're the to work.... they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're they're. they're just. they just they just they just they're they're they're they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just just just just just just just just just just just just just as well, haven't you on tour Rob? Yeah, I've got to do a disco dance section. Yeah, I just thought, well I just wanted to get ripped and just eat it in that heaven really. I mean, listen, are you watching strictly? My kids are obsessed with strictly. They absolutely love it, like, to the thi. to thi. thi. thi. their. their. their. their. to their. their. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. to to to to to to to to to to th. to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. I thi. the the the thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the thea. thea. thea. I thea. I just just tha. I just just. I just, I should let her watch it but I'm like that's bedtime mate. I love bedtime and I love a strict bedtime. I mean you've talked about this haven't you? Yeah, so what we do is we let them watch like one or two dances and then they see the scores and they go to bed they can watch the rest in the morning on the Sunday morning but, it sounds so dull. I mean, we... I just leaned in then. That really says a lot about me.

I just leaned in as a... He wants a bedtime routine. Jesse seems to have it together. She's a pop star, she's got podcast. She's, she's, we're all taking notes now. What's the sketch? Oh, mate. I thi's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the.15 bath. That's time, that's Josh's time, 615. That's my time 6 time 615. Love at 615. I've moved it back because my five-year-old's not

having it. Well that's my daughter's not having it either. So when is she's when is she six? She's six next September so she's just turned five. Okay so mine's six soon I'd to try to bring it to. to me me me me me me me me me me me me me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to be. to be. to be. to me. to me. to me. to me. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to push it to seven. Mate. I'm sorry, I'm sorry to bring this news. But I like to be in bed by 930. 930! I'm so boring, I should not be a pops-up. I don't want to do matinees for my whole fucking tour, because I like to be in bed early. If I'm up beyond 10, I feel like this is a bit dangerous. I feel like what, this is a, what am I-

Yeah, you're getting cock of you. Yeah, I'm setting myself up for a fall. But you know also you're gonna have a shit night, like two of them are gonna be up with either, you know, like wetting the bed or vomiting, or something's gonna happen that's gonna fuck it. If you have a, if you relax and you like go past like 11 o'clock, you're fuck because either they're going to get up at 4 in the morning or... I came in from a giga at a midnight, right, from a gigan Threadsmith.

Lou was still up because she was building a desk for the five-year-old, for like an IKEA desk she was putting together, right? Loo, she's very keen on making sure that, she's actually better than the girl, she's, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th.. to, to, to, th. to, to, to, th. to, tha, to, to, to, to, tha, to, to, to, to, to, th. th. th. th.. It's very keen on the girls seeing I do all that kind of stuff and stuff. So she was building that but and then our eldest was up in the night because she was moaning about something but obviously just wanted to watch Strictly for a bit and she was to watch strictly and she was crying about a pain. So Lisa come down to their try and I come down? So then she stays up for a little bit longer and then she goes to bed about half 12 the five-year-old because she hasn't got the pain anymore as a week gets into bed. Then Lou goes, do you want to rum and coke? I was like, all right, all right? then, we said, to laugh, And then the kids woke up at about seven, and because it was weekend, gave him the iPad, laid in bed for a cut of hours.

That's an absolute dream. Half two. Half two. I know, and I was like, we get to him going, it's half two. That would be really naughty. The other day, I try to the day, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the............................................. ttttttttod. tod. tod. toda. today, today, t toda. toda. toda. t today, t today, the, the, the, the, the, the. this. I cannot do it. I have the best schloofs when I'm watching much of the day. It's like that one where you like get dribble in your mouth where you're just like, oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, the the try. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the the, you know what, I'm going to have to change the skege because I need to stop calling it a skege as well. I need to...

I like it, Jester, you're a call pops, don't live in South East Sunday, you've got schedules. So no, right, okay, schedule. 615 is it, 615? 615, but the baby's having a bath, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's, the baby's having, the baby's having, the baby's having's having's, the baby's, the baby's having's having, tooombys' is having's, tooombuffi, to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, top. I's, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tooom.a, the tooombs, to down like for seven and then the kids are negotiating till about quarter to eight now. Yeah, very similar to our house. I need to basically just push everything a bit for, yeah, and just be done with it. Because all they do is in that negotiation period, you get them out of the bath at like quarter to seven, to seven to seven, to seven, to seven, to seven, to seven, to seven, to seven, the th, th, th, the th, th, th, the the th, th, the the th, the the th, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho, and then, and then, and then, the thoes, thoes, thoes, thooooooooooooes, toda, toda, ta, toda, today, thats, thi, thi, thi, thats, and the th seven, then they go mental for an hour and wake themselves up more and they're just upstairs running right. So that's why we push it back to seven o'clock bath and then 10 minutes play in bed by half seven and then should be asleep by about eight o'clock. So it's the same time that they're going to sleep but without the hour of stress.

So you just get an extra hour downstairs with the kids. And how's reading stories stories the stories the stories the stories the stories the stories their their their their their their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're their to to their the hour. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. I I their. I their. their. their. their. We. We're their. We're their. We're their. We're their. We. We're their. We're their their to to their to to to their the kids. And how's reading stories in your house because my son... Do not? I read with them when they get them from school if they ask and they've got a new library book and they sometimes get books sent home from school they've got because they've got to move up the levels when they're in reception. So I do that with them but pre-bed we don't do. I don't read books done pre-bed. Trey. That's th. T. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I they. I they. I they. I the. I the. I the. I theateateate. I toda. I today today. I the. the. they're the. I do such a good reading of Harry McClary. I genuinely, I surprise myself, hell. If I don't get the Harry McClary audio book contract, something has gone wrong. I don't even know Harry McClary. Give us a blast of it from Donaldson Dairy. That's the one, isn't it? Yeah, Harry McClary, yeah, I mean, I, I'll just, I'll just. I'll just, I'll just, I'll just, I'll, We'll end on this and then for last kind of question. He's a very sort of, you have to coax it out of him, Josh.

He's a right little performer he is. He loves a little show. I mean, is there a guitar in the background? Yeah, he can't play it. I mean, I'm really like, I'm really into performing the books but they seem to listen to my husband who I feel like puts in so much less effort with the voices and the kind of I I really take it quite seriously. Yeah but they don't like that they don't like me doing all the voices they go daddy stop doing the voices just to read it normally. They like chill out. But I think it's embarrassing parents. We've got two bigger egos aren't we just thin that we th we th we th we th we th we thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi te. teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee---I te-I th-I th-I thi thi thi thi thi just think that we need to be on the stage and perform the I'm basically doing a self-tape. Come on Josh give us a little blast of it. So this is Schnitzel von Crumbs,

dogs never climb. Schnitzel von Krum is like a character from Harry and Clothes. It sounds like a presenter of Euro trash. Yeah so this is like a spinn off like Joey was with friends. Okay. Okay. Give us a this tha tha tha tha to to to to to to to to to to the the to the the the the to the the the thoom thoom thoom th. the s s s s s s s s s s s s s s sn. thoomffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff, th, th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just the just theee' thiiiiiiii. to theea' to to to thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thea'a'a' thi. thi. quite nervous actually. Just breathe out. Imagine we're all naked. A dog to remember his snitchelvon crumb with his very short legs and his very low tum. He can bury a bone in a minute or two. There are many remarkable things he can do. Oh, I like it. I like it. That's a bad voice. You have a very fruity voice. I like your voice. Thanks, Cheers. There's a lot going on there isn't there Jesse with his voice

It's a good voice for singing Absolutely not no but you have a guitar in the background Josh so what can you play? Yeah, I do give us a quick sing song. I'm not I'm not I'm nervous enough to do shit so on problem I'm not about to hit into Blackbird Come on now. I'll Jesse Ware. I'll stop my video and you sing Jesse Wear a song. Absolutely not. Do you guys, do your kids have songs that you have to sing to them to get them to sleep? Well, no, we don't sing, but there's songs that they love to be played. They love the Mamma Mia songs, but they'd rather have the originals played on a stereo rather than us sing, but you can sing that's the difference. Oh no no they tell me to shut up. No they don't want to hear me.

So what do you sing to them? My son is really into London Bridges falling down but I find it quite menacing and so much so that he had a nightmare and he woke up because he gets night terrorism and I said are you all right, darling? He went, Mommy, London Bridges falling down. I thought, oh, fuck, poor sod. But no, we have to do the whole frozen like soundtrack. Yeah, I love that. I have to do like Olaf's like operatic thing. And it's quite cringe. So are you singing for laughs?

Or are you singing well when you do that? Because you know into the unknown. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th. I that, th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm, th. I'm, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, th, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, the th. I th. I thi the the the the the the the the thea thea' thea' the thea' the the the the the the the know into the unknown you know that yeah that one but I'm like oh I'm like oh oh I'm like I'm like Monica from friends like I you know I'm quite competitive but if you could sing it do you sing it properly oh no I I give it a good go yeah I take it quite seriously I'm like I'm like Monica from friends like I you know I'm quite competitive with with fucking a Dina Menzel, yeah. Their favorite song that they sing and actually it's got quite a hook, they go, I love pupoo, pupoo, mwe.

I love pupo, and we. And they jump on the fucking bed and I'm like, right, it's bedtime. But it's got kind of something to it, and I'm kind of like, it's in my head now, I'm like and we. There's a fart song, Mr. Fart or something that they play, but I don't even know what it comes from. They ask Alexa for it. And then they had Alexa Blaring at full volume to Mr Farty's song and I'm like on a phone call downstairs and I'm just gonna let it start out.

This has been genuinely such a great episode. It's the first time we've ever overrun just because we've been enjoying enjoying enjoying enjoying enjoying enjoying enjoying enjoying enjoying enjoying no sorry I mean I see that as the ultimate vote of confident. I feel like we haven't covered anything to be honest but I'm sorry. No don't apologize I meant that as the ultimate compliment. Please come on the podcast. would love to and next time you've got an album out come back because we could do this for hours. Why don't we do one when I'm on tour with my son and let's see how fucking shit it's going. Yeah, okay. That sounds good follow-up. We'll do that follow up.

So you've got, is it normal, the following the pregnancy podcast, and then what are you other podcast and where can people see and hear you? Oh my, you're so sweet doing this little bit bit little the little the little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little bit little the little bit little bit little the little bit little bit little the little the little the little the little the little the you're so sweet the spiel the PR's right okay so is it normal is it normal's out now and you can either you can even listen to it week by week but then I felt like it was unfair on people that were like 20 weeks and they're like well you're doing it weak by week so you can actually you can download it all if you want to that's one the option and then I've got table to they I I the the that that that that that that th I th I that that that that that that th that that th that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th that's that's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they the the the they the the You've had amazing guests on our Ed Shear and and people like that you've had incredible

yeah yeah no we're very lucky. When can we get where you're gigging? Where are the shows? So the tour is the beginning of December. I think it's all sold out now but that's um that's for my music so what's your pleasure my disco record that's what's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. te. tecoe. te. I's. te. I's. I's. th. I's. I's. te. I's. te. I's. I's so lucky that I get, the podcasting has just been the greatest kind of blessing and has been such an amazing thing for me. I think everyone thought I was such a miserable pop star because I always made quite sad songs and I looked completely terrified but that looked like resting bitch face. And so for the podcast it's just been able to like you were saying it's so open, honest, and it's really kind of shown me. Yeah. Thanks Jesse. Oh last question is, is there one thing that your

partner does parenting wise it annoys you but you can't bring it up because there'll be a massive row? Oh my god. Okay so he is the most amazing dad but but I will it's so fucking annoying when it's the speed to Bart is always so so interested on this question. You didn't even finish dad. You're amazing dad Bart. He's, honestly I can't fault him but I can in many respects. He is the person that forgets to feed them when he's out because they're having so much fun so they'll either come back with sunstroke or like severe hunger but they had an amazing day but they'll be like shitting and vomiting from the sunstroke because they have an ice cream for the whole day.

And they turn like that, don't they? They turn in an instant when they're hungry. Totally, but, and he doesn't believe in snacking. I'm a big snacker. Okay. That's one thing. I mean, I've got plenty. He riles them up before bedtime. kind of like they're ready to go out raving and I'm like no this is like calm down time let's dim down the lights anyway no he's wicked and you know he puts the bins out all the time so love him. There you go. Another two year street well I did I did think after that some of that two years you were pregnant for nine months and then you were breastfeed it like you've got to right off that nine months as acceptable as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to the to to the the the the the the to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho the the the the to to try. try. try. to try. try the the thea. the the the the, Josh. I am really gonna miss the fact that I can't use pregnancy or a newborn as an excuse anymore. It sucks. Thank you so much, Jesse, it's been amazing.

Thanks so much, Jesse, that was great. Godspeed and good luck with the bedtime tonight. Okay, Jesse Ware. I love Jesse Ware, Josh. She's really spoke to her before her first time I met her, what a lovely lady. Lovely, South East London as well mate. Yeah, I don't think she's not vintage. She's moved in. Anyway, right, let's go, see you on Tuesday.

Thank you, Jesse. See on Tuesday. Bye. Thanks, bye.