Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S03 EP32: Jimmy Carr

Episode Date: October 29, 2021

S03 EP32: Jimmy CarrJoining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant comedian and presenter - Jimmy Carr. Jimmy's new book 'Before and Laughter: A Life Ch...anging Book' is available now. Please rate and review. Thanks - Rob and Josh xxxIf you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.ukTWITTER: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:32 and member terms apply hello I'm Rob Beckett I'm I'm Josh Willickham welcome to parent the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with your tips, advice and of, of course, tales of the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their trials theirs. I theirs. I theirs. I trials trials trials trials tri-a. I tri-a' tri-a' tra. A tric. A tric. A tric. A tric. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. trials trials trials trials trials trials trials ta's ta. ta. trials trials trials trials trials trials trials trials trials. trials. trials. trials trials. they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, Tales of Parenting Woe.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing. Hello. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Josh Reddy? Good job. There we go. Oh, that's very fast. This is Alex. He's two and a half and we're from Sydney, Australia.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Oh, he doesn't listen to the podcast. But enjoy trying to say your names. I listen to your podcast regularly and find it especially comforting and ironic during the times I have to lie on Alex. to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to to to the to to the to the to to the the to to the the to to the to to to to the to the to the the to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoome. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. Ia. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm to. I'm tothe times I have to lie on Alex's floor next to his bed, so he will go to sleep. Love the podcast, it's been hilarious and joyful during a tough time. Sydney has only recently gotten out of lockdown. Thanks also for dropping two episodes a week as it's given us something to look forward to. Also, I've bought both of your audio books and to' Hopefully, lockdown is gone, but the podcast will remain, correct? Yes, it's good that our Antipodean cousins are out of lockdown. Because we change the name before they were, but we can't, we can't wait for the whole world. You know what I mean? How are you, Rob? I'm all good actually. I've got a little bit of a bones of pick with the schooling system. Oh no. School photos. Here we go. Here we go. It's a fucking racket.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Carry on. Right, so it's overpriced for what is. Are you still put in front of that kind sky backdrop? Blue, yeah, and the photo is normally okay, but they're getting through a lot of them, so it's never your best shot or your kid. They're always a bit. They're either too smiley because they're annoying or they're a little bit shy because they're normal. That's how it works with the kids photo. And so it's not the greatest photo in the world. And then you can never just buy it. You always have to buy a package. You can't just go, I want four of them at that price. It's like the family bundle, but there's never enough for all the grandparents in the family. Yeah. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So it. So it. So it. So it. So it. So it. So it's th. So it's the the th. So it's the the the th. So it's the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. And so it's their. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so. So. So. So. So. So. So, it's. So, it's. So it's. So, it's. So, it's. And it's. And it's their. And it's th. And it's th. And so. And it's th. And so. And it's their their their their their their their their. And so it's their. And so it's their. And so And do you know what they've started doing now? Merch? Merch? A key ring? I can get my daughter's face on a mug. Why would you want that?
Starting point is 00:03:09 So before you used to fill in the form and get the photos, but now it gives you a link to the website so where you can just order your kid's face and whatever you want and think it's a thing. They're doing it at this school. It's insane. But they've got merch, my daughter's got merch before we've got merch. How much did you buy and what? What did you buy?
Starting point is 00:03:37 Lou's bought it all. And I just rather not know the price. Because all that's going to happen is, Lou's going to order it anyway to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to know the price. Because all that's gonna happen is, Lou's gonna order it anyway, so if I find out the price and get annoyed, there's no point, because up me and her and I have a row, and then she's ordered it anyway. Yeah. So you bet her off just tapping out. I don't know, have you had school photos, she's a primary social, not primary, so she's a nursery, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, they's, they's, so, they's, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, and they............ they, and they, and they's, and they's a. they's a. they's a. they's a. they's a they's a they's, they's a. they's, they's, they's. they's, they's, they're they're they're they're they're theythink though when they leave they do have a small,
Starting point is 00:04:06 well a four-year-old size, like they have like the thing that you wear a mortarboard and gown like when you're leaving university. Oh that's cute. Yeah that's nice. Get that get on a A4 poster, just stick it on your book. Exactly. I'll get that on a mouse, lovely. See if they were nice people they just send you the file. the file the file the file the file the file the file the file the file the file the file the file the file the file the file the file the file. the file. the file. the file. the file. the file. the file. the file. tho. tho. thooomom. thi. Lo. thoom. thoom. tho. they're tho. tho. tho. tho. thoom. thoom. thoom. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thee. thee. the. the. the. the. I. the. I. I with Getty images written on it, I'm trying to get photos of one of the Beckham kids. A fucking joke, mate. It's so ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I'm sorry. Oh, this will make me laugh as well, John, I'm sorry. Yeah, quite a separate to kids. You did, yeah. The Bromley one. But did I mention the woman that laughed in the front row that maybe maybe like, because the whole book's about like, because your background is like working class, you don't have the confidence to do something because you're sort of told that you can't do it because no one around you does that kind of thing. And anyway, it was talking about a story and I went, oh yeah, oh yeah, actually I actually I actually I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't really I didn't really I didn't really I didn't really I didn't really I didn't really I didn't really I didn't really I didn't really I didn't really I didn't really I didn't really I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn, ha, next book. And I was like, what have I got to do? What have I, you are at my book, you're at a book event about a book I've written
Starting point is 00:05:12 and you still think it's funny that I might write another one? Like, what have I got to do to prove that I've got the minerals to write a book here? She's listened to you complaining about it? She's like, the th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's tho' to to to to tho' tho' tho' tho'er. What I've tho' tho'er. What I've to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. What I's to. What I's to. What I's to. What I's to. What I's to. What I's to. What I's to. thi. thi. I's thi. I's thi. I've thr-I's thrown. I've thrown. I've tho'e. I've tho'a'a'a'er. I've tho'a'a'a'er's tho'a'a'a' in the podcast. Yeah, it's true to be fair, I did moan about it and I probably won't write one for about 10 years, but it really made me laugh. I was like, oh come on, have a bit of faith. You're a book of, I've literally done one now, come on, believe in me. How about you, Josh, you're good? No, I'm good actually, I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a that. I'm a that. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I've thi. I'm a th. I'm a thi. I'm a th. I'm a th. I'm a th You know what? What? Everything's okay, Rob. It's fine. It's quite settled down a bit.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I'm doing a tiny bit less work. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Because I would say, I think we both work hard, but when the book thing, I know we keep banging on about it, but you do basically have to hammer it the book. the book, sort of out there now, people that know about it. You can just ease of it. I just saturday kitchen though last week. That, have you ever done Saturday kitchen?
Starting point is 00:06:08 That is the best time I've ever had in my life, Rob. Well, I felt quite the opposite, but go on. I just can't be bothered to go to to clapple it on a Saturday on a to pretend on a to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to the to their their to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend to pretend. I'm contractually obliged to do so. Contracting a blind to have three glasses of red wine. Well that was one was a pink fizzy, one was white and one was red. I didn't finish the wine but also I had a lovely meal times four. I had a lovely cake. Genuinely I was like this is the gig, drinking and eating before midday. I get stressed on live TV because I feel like this is the gig drinking and eating before midday I get stressed on live TV because I feel like I'm about to ruin my career
Starting point is 00:06:48 by saying something Josh I've got a good Instagram if you want to do that before we bring on Jimmy Carl because it's a good episode we should also we should also do a brain dump of something we remember oh yes brain dump let's do brain dump first and I'll do this story it's a funny story that's a funny I'm Michael's a th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th is th is th is th th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm the. I'm theeeeeeii. I'm thei. I'm thei. I'm thei. I'm thei. I'm thei. I'm th and Michael was going to pick a subject I don't know if Michael's thought of a subject I do indeed I thought would be nice to hear your thoughts and your brain dump on home and away home and away did you used to watch home and away I didn't I was more neighbors oh well home and away you see don't don't remember alpha also I don't I never watched home a to a to I'm I the I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I never I never I the I to I the I to I to I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I never I t I never I t think I never I never never I think I never never I try think I never never never never I try think I never never never I tou to th to th th th th th I th I th I th I with you Josh you'll have to do it solo. Oh well I don't think it's as fun on your own that's a shame. Oh sorry Michael you've got another topic. How about TIFI Friday? Oh TIFI yes place your hands Reef. Yeah
Starting point is 00:07:33 I mean will remember will? Yeah of course do you know what I've met him a few times because he still works in TV now doesn't he? He is a lovely bloke. Lovely guy, big fan of his. He's actually the producer on Undeniable, which he can watch on Wednesdays on Comedy Censure at 9pm. Oh, this is, this is shameless. Sorry, I should be plugging in a dump. Let's go. This is, you know, to're saying you might also enjoy this. Yeah yeah that's fine well let's do the brain dump come on. TIFR Friday give it to Danny Baker was a script writer
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Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah it's really it's an absolute nightmare for us. Too difficult. Too difficult too difficult to get to far too difficult right. I've to. Far too difficult. Right, I enjoyed that little brain dump, Josh. That was nice. I've got one more little story before we go. Do so many brain dumps. They don't have to be TV. We'll do anything, you know. Arsenal, Arsenal, invincible season. Virgin Megastore.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Anything, anything that no longer exists. Right, here we go. Is this one little story, the story, thap, to share one of mine. I'd gone to a cafe my sister-in-law after having done a walk around the park. This was my first proper outing since I had my son Oliver just three weeks before. I was very nervous three weeks old. We found a table and we were looking through the menu when Oliver suddenly woke up screaming for milk. As it was still pretty early days, I was not a pro at getting Oliver latch quickly or subtly. It wasn't going well. Oh God. And Oliver was getting more and more distress, making it harder and harder for him to get on the boob and it was making me more hot and flustered as everyone looked. After finally
Starting point is 00:10:36 getting Oliver latched, it was at this moment that a teenage waiter came over with our teas and to take our food order. He had clocked our breastfeeding, flushed bright red and was doing the classic avoid all eye contact with the woman and her with her boob out whilst taking the order. I don't know if it was a sound of another voice or what but Oliver took his moment to pop off the boob letting out a large jet of milk whizz out for my nipple and hit this poor lad in the face. Oh my god no what is this the bloody I mean this is what this Miranda what's going on this is the I have no idea how that particular trajectory worked but it was a perfect shot right onto his cheek oh my god there was a
Starting point is 00:11:23 half second where he and I both looked at each other with our mouths open. He should keep his shot unless he's hungry. My sister-in-law then burst out laughing and said, do you have any extra milk for my tea please? Then pointed at me and she, she, and then point at me and said, she clearly doesn't need any. Oh my God, absolutely Frank Skinner Speed from the sister-in-law though.
Starting point is 00:11:49 He looked so shocked, mumbled, I'll have a look and bring you your cutlery and shuffled off. I was so hot and embarrassed. The whole thing made it even worse when I found out that he was in fact the teenage waiter's very first day of his job. Oh no! Oh no! Oh my god. At least he got th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made made that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that he he he he he he he he he that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the that the that teenage waiters very first day of his job! Oh no! Oh my God, at least he got an interesting story to tell when he got home. I mean, that's from Hannah there, sold squirty milk Hannah. That, that, that story probably exists somewhere else on a phone in for weirdest first day at work ever. What a mad, so. That is, if you are the teenage waiter to do get in touch. That is if you are the teenage way to do get in touch. Yes and if you have squirted milk in someone's face before,
Starting point is 00:12:28 let us know. We are very big fans of the squirted of milk in an embarrassing situations. I think it's good because it will happen to other people. So the more we talk about it, the better we'll make those people feel because poor old Hannah there was very red faced. red-faced, she said. Yes, that is absolutely brutal. Right now, someone who doesn't get red-faced, the master of no shame, Jimmy Carrey. That is a link and a half, isn't it? Here he is. What does Possible sound like for your business? It's having to spend to power your scale with
Starting point is 00:12:58 no preset spending limit. Redefined possible with business platinum. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and Conditions apply. Visit Amex.C.A. slash Business Platinum. Jimmy, Carl. Welcome to the show. We're very excited about this, Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:13:13 What, excited about having me on the show? Yeah, I'm, uh, do you know what? For a long time as well, I it's definitely, it's on the way there, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, you can smell it, but you're not in it. It felt like when we got the email, I thought there's an admin error here. They've confused us with the Booker for Graham Norton here. What's going on? I like the idea that you guys have gone, somehow. Can't just be a brain on our time. That's why I was interested because I asked you to do this in
Starting point is 00:13:49 lockdown and you said because you said you weren't really going to talk about your kid but now you are. Because there's been a shift. Well the shift was we just wanted a bit of time to kind of adjust to it ourselves and then we're kind of we're talking about. We're talking. wearing. went. went. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. We're kind. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. to. to. to. the. about it. I mean, I thought the papers were very nice about it in a weird way. Because like the tabloids get given a hard time, right, by anyone in the public eyes. Like, oh, they're terrible. They're the worst. And you go, well, they're two pictures of me pushing a pram. And just went. I thedue. cash Jimmy that's what they presume I do get paid solely in cash yeah well that's what Ken Dodd was just cash wouldn't it it was he had a room of cash
Starting point is 00:14:28 cash in he sounds obviously I'm the expert on all course there's a very clear distinction between tax avoidance and tax evasion it's about the differences about 18 months in prison so Jimmy you've got one child that's a two years of age just to just turned to one one child does does does does does does does does does does does does does does does does does does does does does does the that the that that that that the that that the that that that the that that that that the that to to to the to to to that to to to to to to to to that that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that's that's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. that's that's the that's the the the. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's.. How old, two years of age? Just turn to one child. Does that get me on the podcast or do I need more? Yeah, no. It does, yeah, you qualify. But people don't know, that's the thing. Because you've never, you never officially announced it,
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Starting point is 00:16:05 But these guys seem absolutely incapable. So, but it's, you know, it's the, it's Piccadilly and it's like massive brothers and stuff. He's in the zoo. We live really near London zoo, so he member of the zoo, aren't you, Jimmy? A silver member, I didn't even know there was such a thing, Josh. Oh, Jimmy, the money that you're losing! I don't thought you'd be across this! So what's the setup?
Starting point is 00:16:31 My silver membership, I can go as much as I want, but I don't get money off parking. Who's driving to London zoo? membership thing is where you can just kind of wander in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I've got to say I'm loving the zoo. Yeah, it's great, isn't it? People do the cruel, but really compare it to nature. If you take away all those cages, what have you got? What, after two weeks, you haven't got like harmony? After two weeks you've got one massive, fat tiger looking at you. Oh, and is he's at the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. that's at that's at that's at that's at that's at thathe a thatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheat. Yeah, their. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, that. Yeah, that. Yeah, that. I's, that. I's, that. I's, th. Yeah, th. I's, th. Yeah, th. People's, that. Yeah, that. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, that. Yeah, that. Yeah, that. Yeah, that. Is he a preschool and stuff now, your boy? Yeah, he's at the nice one where you can go with them, so that there's two mornings a week. You can sort of go from, it's like 930 to 1130 and you can go and you go with them.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I find it very, very chill because they're quite strict. They sort of go, look, no phones, they sort of go, well, it's a two years old. He hasn't got a phone. And they go, no, no, you're not allowed on your phone. Oh. And so you're sort of there playing with, you know, bricks and then put it in the safe, and then you're good for the day, check it again at seven o'clock. And it was hard, like the first the first the first, like the first, like the first, like the first, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh put the phone down, you feel so much guilt. And they go, dad did put your phone down. And I've been on my phone way too much. We've all got books out at the moment. You've got your book out as well, Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And you are forced to sort of plug it quite heavily. There it is, look at that. Before and that's the, to be fun, and it's also, oh, how did, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, thu, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to to to to the, the, the, to to to to, to, we the, the, we the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to.. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the, the, the, the, the like the classic sort of showbiz biography of the, hey, you know, can't believe my luck. And it's also, how did you make your luck? Because I think there's the your belief system, I think, is kind of the fundamental thing in life. Like what you believe dictates how everything else goes. So I put a bit of that in there because I thought, you know, it helped me a lot so to to the the the to the publisher. In it you say that you're kind of writing this partly for your son so
Starting point is 00:18:25 that he's got something to read when he's kind of 25 and he wants to find out about life. I'll be an older dad. There is that thing of like, well I was chatting to my friend Jim Jeffries about it the other day and going yeah I'm an older dad and he went move to Los Angeles mate you're a young dad. It's like it's later than people thin. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's th. It's th. It's thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the, the, the, th. thin, thi, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he. He he. He he. He th. He th. He thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. He's thi. thin, thee. theeeeeeeeee. theeee. the. thee. the. thee. thi's thi. He's thi. He's it from. I like the idea that, yeah, I'm slightly older dad, so that first thing, I think in life, it's like, it's later than people think as well, I think it's sort of 24-25. You'll sort of, you land and go, right, what am I doing? Yeah. And that's a massive thing, like, who's around at that stage is your environment, and that thing about, you know, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm th and th and th, I th, I th, I th, I th. I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I'm, I'm, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin. thin. thin. thin. thin, thi. thi. thi. thi, you know, the parenting thing, nurture is incredibly important. I mean, nature is probably more important, but there's nothing we can do about it, right? Yeah. That's your factory settings, that's what you come out with, and the only
Starting point is 00:19:12 bit we get to play with is nurture. And people assume that nurture finishes at, I don't know, 18 or 21 or whenever they, oh, nurture is done and I'm a finished product. thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, the, the, their, the, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, is thi, is thi, and is thin, is thi. And, is ty. And, is ty. And, thau. And, thau. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thi. home, they, oh, nurture's done and I'm a finished product. But actually it continues all the way through your life. And you kind of, I don't, it took me a while to kind of figure it out that like, you can't beat your environment. You've got to be around, around good people. Because you, what you wasn't like, as super confident as a teenager. Because you're, the today's, you tho, tho, th, th, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t. t. t. t. to. to. too. took, like, took, like, to. And, tage is that you're, what I find is quite difficult is like I wasn't very confident as a teenager so there's all sort of things that I sort of did to help me that I want to tell my kids do this do that that'll be really good because that help you but then I know that when you are 17 the last thing you want is a fifth year old bloke tel you to do do do you know so do you so do are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are do do do do do do do you so do do you so do you so do you so do you you are you are you are you you you are you you you you you you you you you you you you you do the do the the do do you do do you do do you do do you do do you do do you do do you do do you do do you do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do the do the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the thi they thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi this is what you got to do, son. I'm often wrong but never in down. I'll have loads of opinions, of course. It's the nature of this thing, isn't it?
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Starting point is 00:20:33 healthy no matter what you say. No matter what you say. The act of talking is more than what you say. you for a bit. Your hair looks fucking exceptional. There's a lot more of it than one I last saw. There's loads. That's mental. Well it's a weird thing where you have a hair transplant in the second lockdown because you know you got a midlife crisis. What am I going to do is sports cuts. But I think you did it perfect timing. Just before it got too bad. Well yeah I did it. Well I had like the they call it a wid. They're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their. I their their their their their their their their their their I had a their I had a their I had like I had a their I had like had like I had like a their I had like had like a their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their th. th. th. tr tr tre. tre. tre. tre. tre. I tre. I had tre. I had tre. I had tre. I had their had their had their had their had thethe they call it a widow's peak don't they it's like I look like a vampire's accountant like a like a real Ray Reardon if you get that reference yeah yeah the gods of snooker so I had that thing going on and I thought I'll get it done I mean purely vanity but I think being on the tele sort of licenses a fair bit of vanity but you have a hair transfer and people genuinely they go I had a mate to go I the the the the they they they they they they to to to their they they to to their to they they they to to their they to to they to they they to they they to they they they they they they they they their their they they they they they they they they to to to they to they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they try try try try they they they try they they they they they they they they they they they they they're have they they they they they they they they they they go I had a mate go who do you get the hair from and you no no you're not waiting for one of one direction to be in a motorcycle
Starting point is 00:21:27 actor they just they take four thousand hairs from round the back and then redistribute it's very socialist my head yeah and then you know the sensation of when the hair's on the back of your neck stand up yeah yeah how bad as this goes spike it there there's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's that's th th th th th th th you th tho tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the your neck stand up. How much does this go spike it? There's a gag. That's lovely. I love lovely stuff. Does that continue forever? Like, I know we will get back to parenting, but I mean, so does, so will that... This is the only reason I had the kid was as a donor, he doesn't realize that. The technology is moving forward. I look at him and I just see, I see two healthy the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. that. th. that. th. that. th. that. that. th. the. the. th. th. thi. that. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the hair. the hair. the hair. the hair. the hair. the hair. the hair. the hair. the hair. the the the the the. the. the. the. the. thea. the. thea. thea. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha.ology is going to move forward. I look at him and I just see, I see two healthy kidneys. Just spare parts.
Starting point is 00:22:08 So does the hair, will you have to redo that or will, like, will that happen again or is that now sorted forever? That will last forever there because that's the hair from back there, so it's not programmed to fall out. Right, so it's just going to stay in there in there in their their their th. to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay in to stay in to stay in thay in the in the in the. the. the. thatheir the. the. their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their their, their their their their their their their their their their th. to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay the, the. the. the. the. theat theat theat theat the. Wea. theat the. the. the. the. the. the. th point. I would have like I would describe it as a friar tuck vibe where you have a front sort of quiff and then you have like a whole bit behind it but that's just you know let's go across that bridge. Jim we all know you as like sort of Mr. Banner for it being me like like mr. robots sort of no emotion on shows you know a banter from it, me like Mr. Robot sort of no humanity
Starting point is 00:22:45 and no emotion on shows. You know what I mean? You're brute all your jokes and you don't really give much of yourself away. When we do panel shows and stuff, you've done some more so recently, but you don't give too much away. So what's Jimmy Car the dad like?
Starting point is 00:22:57 Then are you fully of theory on people is the people that we like, we like who we are, we're very self-centered. I think we like who we are when we're with them. Yeah. That's why we like other people. The reason we like our other halves and the reason we like our mates is because I like who I am when I am with you. Great. I like who I like who I am when I am when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when I am when when when I am when I am when when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when when when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when when when when when when when when I am when when I am when when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am with I am with I am when I am with I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I am when I'm with him. I like, I like sort of being fully engaged and I mean the lockdown thing was such a blessing, but I'm around more than most dads get to be. Most dads want to be around an awful lot and life gets in the way and they've got to work or, you know, a lot of moms as well get to have to work and it's just, it's hard being away from your kid. I get to be there most of the day. I the day. I the day. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I tho tho tho thi. I that. I the more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I to be. I thi. I thi. I than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than the. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. like getting back to it, you go, I work two hours a night with a break. It's unbelievable. Yeah, but you do get to spend a lot of time with the kids like in the daytime when you do our job when it's mainly evenings. Yeah, I get to Jimberie, I get to go to messy monkeys, all of that stuff and I'm down with all of it. I love it. For a minute I th think Jim I th th think jink jink jj I th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that's that's that's that's that stuff that stuff to that, I'm to get to get to get to get to get to get to to to to to to to to to to to that stuff to that stuff that stuff that stuff that stuff, I'm that stuff, I'm that stuff, I'm that stuff, I'm that stuff, I'm that stuff, I'm that stuff, I'm that stuff, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that's that's that's thi thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. that's theeat theat thi. thi. that's that playing with Jimmy Carr. I thought that was like you're your family name. That's the official term.
Starting point is 00:24:10 That's the work for you use. An hour of Jim Bury. What about other parents? Have you had those awkward chats? You know, because when you've got a kid it's sort of like open season to chat if you're at soft play or Jim Bury. You know what what what what what what what what, you. the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. That's, th. That's, their, that, that, that, that, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I's is th. I's th. I's thi is that, I's that, that, that, that, that, thou. I's that, their their their their their I find your hard person to approach in the street because you've got that high status authority. Well, it's a weird thing. I've always had that odd thing of because of the type of jokes that I do on stage and you know, I was sharing to someone about the book recently, it's sort saying, I've never really liked, And it seems appropriate after 20 years in comedy to write a biography. Frankly, you boys have gone too early. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. But I think of like opening up and kind of being a bit more yourself. I mean, I think I'm more approachable now than I was. I think with a kid as well. It's sort of like like, the've had dogs for years. So if you've got a dog, if you're walking the dog, it's like anyone else with a dog, you go, all right, we're in the dog gang, we can chat. Any other parent can have a chat. The only thing I don't like is the eyebrow raised
Starting point is 00:25:13 from other dads. I'm not a big fan of the, you're in the playground, having a got you too you go no no I fucking love this I knew what was going to happen I'd look but I think Romish is a great act he does he can be negative I think Romish is a good guy did you always want to have kids no I don't I don't think I did I think I had a there's elements of my childhood that weren't particularly happy and I kind of I felt like it was I mean you know to be serious I felt like my my mother was slightly tied down by her kids I felt like she was you know her life was us and I wanted more than that so I kind of associated having a family with being tied down and not being free and I suppose that break that I had in my mid-twenties of like going off and for me it was joining the circus of comedy and going I don't I I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm to to to to to to to to th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like I was like I was like I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to today. I'm th. I joining the circus of comedy and going, I don't care about stuff anymore, I want to have interesting experiences.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And it felt like it was yo-ho, ho in a pirate's life for me. And I was off doing that. And then kids felt like that was very domestic and would tie me down. And I can see now that that was foolish and you can have both. But I think at the time time time time time time time time time time time time time th. th. th. th. th. th. thi that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was foolish was foolish was foolish that was foolish thou. that was foolish that was foolish that was foolish. that was foolish is that was foolish. that was foolish. that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thou. th. th. that was foolish. the th. thou. that was foolish. that was foolish. that was foolish. that was foolish. that was foolish. that was foolish. that was foolish. that was. that. Yeah, I think there's a lot, because I think a lot of comics have kids quite late as well, and I think that's a really good kind of distillation of what's happened with. Yeah, but if you want, I mean, if you want to find a group that are emotionally stunted, it is, it is, it is comedians. And you know, why'd they get into it. The best question to ask a comedian is which of your parents were sick. It tends to be that one of your parents was sick, either physically or emotionally and you had to make things okay.
Starting point is 00:26:52 You had to make things okay in the house. I'm not sure if that's true for you, Josh, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.ei. thi. thi. thi. tei. tei. thi. thi. thi. thi, true physically. I don't think I made things okay in the house. You made it worse, actually. Yeah. You know, you got that very light thing about, you mean, with me, it was my mother was very depressed throughout my child. Mm-hmm. And she was brilliantly fun and funny, but also quite't think it's necessarily sick but if there's sort of something that's not good happening at home whatever the situation then it's the comedian comes out where you go I'm gonna try and share one up
Starting point is 00:27:30 whether they're sick or if there's not much money knocking about or someone who's a job or there's grief in the family is that kind of thing so I think I thin' a bit broader but definitely you use your whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever'll be funny, I'll distract and stuff like that. But what's really interesting is like, because what's great about the book is like, you see so much more of Jimmy Carr as we've said than you'd ever see. And I found like doing this podcast with Rob, both of us have opened up more than we ever have
Starting point is 00:27:57 and people really respond to that. And have you found it kind of kind of th of th kind of share all this stuff and share these views with people? I think it is a little bit. It's also kind of where I want to go a little bit. Because I think it's that thing where obviously the lockdown is, there's lots of negatives. And lot of people had a very tough time. And I sort of, you know, you do a lot of thinking, actually as life, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, to, to, to, their, to, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, ate and we I spend my life on the road I sort of gig 200 nights a year so I'm sort of out doing it and then you don't really turn around to reflect and then when I kind of looked at it kind of I went I'd actually like to change my comedic style a little bit a little bit more so I'm kind of working on that you know yeah it's quite interesting to do that to sort of that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to the the the to the the to to the the to to to to to to to to to to sort to to sort to sort to sort to sort to sort to sort to sort to to sort to sort to sort. I'm to sort. I'm to sort. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm to to to to to to sort. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm th. th. th. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. So. So. And. And. And try. So is sort of a task without end. You can get better. You can always kind of work at it a bit more. So I'm trying to work on that as well and opening
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Starting point is 00:29:45 I definitely had that when we had the first kid. I just in my head suddenly every job became like a mathematical equation almost in my head of how many jobs of this level do I need to do before where I need to do this amount of work for this amount of years and then I don't have to worry anymore about, and I was doing that for two years maybe and I thought, and it was really making my mind go, I think. I think a lot of people have that, a lot of people have that weird thing of like going, right, what do I need to do to be okay forever? And before having kids, yeah, sort of who cares? It's only, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, like, like, like, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I of who cares? Yeah, it's only me, I'll be fine. I was fine when I had nothing. I'll be, you know, I had nothing for a couple of years
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Starting point is 00:31:11 like and then you have a kid and you go fuck I'm all in it. I'm all in it. Not all I've been in the game. Yeah. Especially when you're self-employed and stuff that's what, you know, I found that where when I had the kids I was like,, right, I've got the money and get the money. And even if you sort of have got enough, you just keep saying yourself you have it, and you keep going and going. Frankly, you two guys being worried, I mean, really, wind your necks.
Starting point is 00:31:33 These guys worry, I love you, Josh. I can't see you getting cancelled. No, but I'm more cancelable, Jimmy, because anything, if I said any of your jokes, that's the end of my career, but you, you're the uncancelable man, right? Well, that feels like. You're the T- I reckon, I reckon some sort of crime from his teenagers will come back. Yeah. The name of the driver. Or I'll be pissed at a pub being filmed on a phone saying something. That's what happened. It won't be a joke. But do you reckon that your kids got an impact on that, where some of the stuff you talk about, obviously it's all jokes and stuff, but are th. th.? About him seeing it? No, not for a second.
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Starting point is 00:33:09 that just it puts people at ease. And for me, it's like a shorthand to a friendship. It's like if you share a sense of humor as some humor as some, their sense of humor as someone. Yeah. It's just your, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, like, you talk about status or whatever when people meet me. If they've got the same sense of humor as me, we're on the level. Great. And with your parents, and you said it was a bit difficult in your childhood, did that make you quite nervous to be a parent if you had sort of not the greatest experience growing up that not known what to do? Uh, not so much. I think I knew what to do. I just didn't, I thu thu thu thu thu thu thu, uh thu, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, thu, uh, thu, thu, thu, thu, uh, thu, thu, uh, uh, uh, th. th. th. Uh, uh, thi, thi, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. And, to to to to to toee. And, toe. And, toean. And, thr-I. And, thr-I. And, thrown. And, thi. And, thi. I just didn't. I mean, listen, it's not like a secret. I haven't seen my father in like 21 years.
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Starting point is 00:35:13 You know, that can be, you know, that's properly like a father figure in my life, like someone that I go to for advice for things. It's weird the way it works, but it's not you Rob, but the idea of like going, it's interesting, like when you think about it, what is, you know, you happen to be, you know, biologically the father of this of this culture. But that's not the important thing. The important thing, your role within their life and how you kind of, how you play that. Yeah, I think that, I say, nurtures so massive. Obviously nature like those, your genes and things like that, but you can have a relationship with someone that you're not genetically related to that. You treat like a grandparent or an auntie or dad and I think that's that's, I's, I's, I's, that's, that's, that's, that's so, that's so, that's so, that's so, that's so, that's so important, that's so important, that's so important, I's so important, I's so important, I's so important, I's so important, I's so important, I'm that's so important, I'm so. That's so important, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's so. I's so. I's so. I's so, I's so, I's so, I's so, I's so, I'm that's so important, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm so, I'm not, I'm not, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I'm so, I'm so like in families or whatever. I was always very jealous of that with my my mates sort of family had this thing where
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Starting point is 00:36:29 one of the most well-connected people I know in the country. So the people your child's going to meet and to contact someone, I'd go to Jimmy. Jimmy's phone book's probably the best of the country I'd say. I'll call me off today from my mate going, oh I need permission to use paint it black. Do you know the Rolling Stones? Exactly. That's a fair point, isn't it? So who did you call Keith or Mick? Which was the one that you called Jimmy? It was Ronnie Wood, but yeah, but that's not... celebrities changed massively, like in terms of you know Instagram and social media and all these things so I'm at the lovely age now, my son's at the lovely age where you can dictate so you can say right, no screens, no screens, no sugar, no social media, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it, thi, thi, it was thi, it was thi, thi, thi, it was thi, thi, thi, th th th th, th th th, th, th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin thin thin thin thin thoooooooomomoomoome thi, th'm at the lovely age now my son's at the lovely edge where you can dictate so you can say right no screens no sugar no social media but no social media is two-year-old
Starting point is 00:37:31 I imagine with the 13th year old it's more of a bad. Yeah. But I watch that about all the guys that in Silicon Valley sort of going you can't have social media to their social media because I don't think I would have had a happy childhood with social media, because I wasn't aware, I know Josh wasn't aware, I mean, he lived in the, out in the middle of nowhere, didn't you? Yeah, exactly. You weren't aware there there was more fun going on elsewhere. You're there and your school with four people, whatever it was. Yeah, no, of course. I didn't realize th realize, I th realize, I th realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, I didn't. that. th. that. that. that. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. up at all. Yeah. And that's just basically what my life was like. I presumed everyone lived like that. The social media thing worries me because everything
Starting point is 00:38:07 looks so perfect. Yeah. Sort of happy families and everyone's having a perfect time. That only really existed in adverts for holidays when we were kids. Yeah. There's a weird psychological thing now where people are jealous of themselves on Instagram where they see pictures of themselves on Instagram and go, oh I wish I was th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi tho tho tho tho tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee thi thi thi where they see pictures of themselves on Instagram, I go, oh, I wish I was that person, but they are that person. But it's just smiling. They've never frowned. Well, I've been doing book signings for the book when it's come out. And then people have a quick photo with you and then move along because there's lots of people waiting.
Starting point is 00:38:35 They can't get their angle. on Twitter or Instagram, I go, oh it's great to meet Rob Beckett and I go, and I've never met this woman in my life. I've never met her. Then I've scrolled down, look at the photo of us together. It's a different person, because she's not done all the angles. You sound like Prince Andrew then. I've never met this one. Yeah. It is an odd one, isn't it? The social media thing and people sort of getting photos. It's, thaged, thaged, thaged, thed, tho, thed, thed, tho, tho, the photos, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, I, I, I, I, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm tho, I'm tho, I's the photo, I'm the photo, I'm the photo, I'm the photo, I's the photo, I's a the photo, I's a the photo, I's the photo, I's the photo, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's the photo, I's, I's, I's, I's the photo, I. I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's a th. I's a th. I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm thooo. I've thooooo. I've thooooooo. I've thoooo. I've the th. I odd thing like signings for things where you go, I'd rather look someone in the eyes and say hello, than get a photo. Yes. They didn't really have a chance to say hi. Yeah, because you can have a proper chat with someone and go about something
Starting point is 00:39:13 rather than just like awkwardly like leaning in. Just say yes. Yeah, yeah. Like if you've been asked 400 times I've their their their their their 4 4 4 their 4 their 4 their 4 their 4 their 4 they they've they've they've they've doesn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I don't mind if I. As long as they bought a fucking book, yeah, do the one. Hundreds of people that I've gone, I've got to get trained, sorry. Do you do, do you watch kids TV with your son? No, he's never seen TV. He's never, he's never watched tele. He's two. He's never watched telain't watch tele. He's tele. He's tele. He's tele. He's he's never watched tele. He's never watched tele. He's tie. He's never watched tie. He's never watched tele. He's never watched tele. He's never watched tele. He's tele. He's tele. He's never watched te. He's never watched te. He's never he's never he's never watched. He's never watched. He's never watched te. He's never watched te. He's never watched te. He's never watched te. He's never watched te. He's never watched. He's never watched te. He's never watched tel. He's never watched tel. He's tel. He's tel. He's tel. He's tel. He's tel. He's tel. He's tel. He's te. He's te. He's te. He's te. He's never watched te. He's te. He's never watched te. He's never watched te. He's never watched te. He's never watched te. He's never watched. He's he. He's two. So what do you do? You just play with him all day? Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Fuck. Yeah, is that weird? That's impressive.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Do you know when you're gonna ease it in? We're trying to go back to the set? We're having a full Josh Widdockham charted. We're gonna bring him up Amish. Yeah. So he's never watched tell it. What about never had an iPad or nothing on screens like that. Like the only thing he's seen is like videos would be like, if I've got a gig and he's going to bed, we'll do a little face time at bed. Right, yeah. I've got a tip from a mate the other day, Stuart Golsmith, you both know Stuart Golsmith. Yeah. He said, don't do videos with the kids.
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Starting point is 00:41:11 trying to eat the rainbow every day we're trying to have all the different colors on the plate we're trying to do you know broccoli and the carrots and the vegge and then some main thing they thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the diet of the kid, she's going, yeah, this is all fine. And I went, well, what normally happened? She went, I've just been to someone's house, and they'd pureed a quarter pounder with cheese, and we'll feed you. And you go, all right, no, this is fine. This is like the health, this is like half hour off for them. Yeah. Everything you do, you research it and do it properly. So I think you're very well informed. So did you do a lot of reading of all the books? I haven't done a lot of the reading. I'm really, I'm looking forward to a bit of that, but I suppose the first couple of years you're basically going right, this thing's got to get on schedule. It's got to get, the sleep schedule seems to have a mom and dad and Caroline doesn't either
Starting point is 00:42:05 in this country so that her parents are in Canada. So we had like this night nurse that came in that was almost like a sort of surrogate mom and sort of gave us all this kind of amazing advice. And just basically with kids, if they don't eat, they're somewhat tiny. So if it's like a lunch and a dinner that they skip and they eat a massive breakfast, like, doesn't, like for any sort of 24-hour period, just don't, the individual meal doesn't matter, just look at what they've eaten over the day. Ah, that's good. It takes all the pressure off. And she was going actually, 48 hours is really good, because if your kid, thiii. it might shoe away breakfast and lunch the next day and that's totally normal just be, you know, chill.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I remember the first, with my first kid, I was like, I got into my head so much about feeding. So it almost became like, if she didn't eat, it became like a defeat. Do you know what I mean? It became, it felt like, each meal felt like something, oh, this has got to work out, but that's so useful to view it in that kind kind that kind, that that that th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, th, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. to to thi. to to thi, thi, thrown, to be, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I............. I, the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, thin, thin, to, to, to, to mea. too. too. too. too. too. too. toe. toe. toe. to, to, to, their,that's so useful to view it in that kind of more long-term way. The best experience was about three days in and someone had said, oh you've got to meet this woman. I went, well what does she do exactly? And they went, oh she's the tit witch. I went, oh she's the tit witch. And like, three days after the birth, the birth, the birth, their coles, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, thi, th, th, th, thee, their, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, th, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, thr. And, is, they, is, is, they. And, they. And, they's, they. And, they's, they's, thr-athe milk comes in. And then on that third day, which is the most emotional day, the most hormones you can have in a human body, is on that day. This lady called the tit witch, is on that this tip witch, this called the tip whi, she's called the, this is the book,
Starting point is 00:43:33 she's written all the, she's, th.. she calls herself. And she comes around and sort of goes and does like the, oh right, this is how you're gonna breastfeed. It's unbelievable. I got on so well with it. Like she's friends with Jack Whitehall's mom. Do you go, oh, you're the poshous woman I've ever met? And really, I don't know, I kind of felt like, I was like giving in the whole, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to.. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. kind of sort of doing it together was really, it was really fun. We got home like after, I was really proud, we got, we had about five days in the hospital because he was quite premature. And we had about five days in the hospital and then we got home and Caroline sort of went, oh I haven't changed the nap yet, how do you do it? Because she hadn't, yeah, hadn't got around to it. I was really like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I, I, I, I was really like, I was really like, I was really like, I was really like, I was really like, I was really like, oh, I was really like, oh, I was really like, oh, I was really like, oh, I was really like, I was really like, oh, I was really like, I was really like, I was really like, I was really like, I was really like, I was really like, I was really like, I was really, I was really, I was really, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'll like, I'll like, I'll like, I'll like, I'll like, I'll like, I'll like, I'll like, I'll really like, I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll show you. How? But you like knowing stuff, knowing how to do stuff and having like, you're really into
Starting point is 00:44:27 like the best way of doing stuff and the expert and stuff. So I'm the opposite of certain Tory MPs. I love. There's always someone that knows better than you and every day is to school there. And I think that thing of like being a dad, I haven't got set views on it. I'm like going, well, I'm just sort of trying to learn from my friends. Yeah. You know, there's people further down the road. You sort of watch how they do it.
Starting point is 00:44:48 And they're not, they're not trying to be best mates with their kids. They're trying to be settrown, boundaries and be, you know, have this, have a proper premature baby, what was you just standing there awkwardly? Was you cracking jokes? What was happening when? It was a terrifying morning because it was emergency C-sections. Oh no. Oh no, that is, that's the emergency, they go, they go, you know, then you sort of take the guy to one side and you go, what do you mean emergency? What's the worst case scenario? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh no, that is that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's the the the the that's the the the the the the the the the the emergency. that's the emergency. that's the emergency. the emergency. the emergency. the emergency. the emergency. the emergency. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the emergency. Emergency. Emergency. Emergency. Emergency. se. se. Emergency. se. Emergency. emer. emergency. emergency. the the the the the the the great. And I don't mind the gore and the guts of the thing. So I was kind of, I was sort of in the business end as they sliced her open. It was. GoPro strapped your head. You're at the business end.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Yeah. Wow, I think you're the only person he was already off? I took a week off touring which I'll be I'll be billing the kid for later. Yeah I took it took about a week off and but even then I was like going do I I can pop out for two hours because I'm gonna do it I could do a show. Yeah. I've been doing some preview shows because I'm I've been doing it on this tour for a while and I'm sort sort I'm to I'm to to to to to to to the to be to be the to be the to be the to be the to be the to be the the to be the to be the they. I'm they. I'm to be they. I'm they. I'm the the they. I'll be the their. I'll be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tooli. I'll be tooli. I'll be tooli. I'll too too too too too too too too too too too too too too the been doing it on this tour for a while. I'm sort of, I'm rewriting it. I'm rewriting two hours because I'm going to put some of it it on a streamer and then sort of, but the tour continues. So I'm rewriting new stuff. And sort of yeah, trying that new stuff. People can sort of, try to the audience know what's up. They know exactly when you mean it, when you don't mean it, when it's a joke, when it's an opinion, they get it sort of organically. So it's been quite interesting. There's quite a lot of stuff about having a kid, but it's not your regular sleepless nights. It's... There's some brutal stuff out there. There's some brutal stuff out.
Starting point is 00:46:36 their stuff out there. It's anything that you've got, you just put it in a file. They're genuinely, the special that I've just recorded, the last 15 minutes of it is career-enders. I just go right, let's do some career-ending jokes in a row. And I do sort of 30 career-ending jokes in a row. But you know, that's my sense of humor. That's what you can change what you find funny. It's... That really appeals to me. You know, the thing is, you can joke about anything, but not with anyone. Yeah. One of the most exciting things I think about you having a baby, Jimmy, is you've chosen a brilliant name.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Oh yeah, well, I mean, a lot of celebrities give their kids unusual names and they look to regret it. But if you saw him, Josh, if you saw him you he he he th, if you th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th th th th th th th th th th look tho, he tho, he tho, tho, thate, thattoo, thate really really really thi really really thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thate a thate a thathea, the a really really really really really really really really really really the, the, th. That's the, th. That's th. That's th. th. thi. That's thi. That's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo' the the ir kids unusual names and they look to regret it. But if you saw him, Josh, if you saw him, he just, he looks like an adult. He just, he looks like an adult. Little moustache, came out with a little moustache. Arm first. He's, uh, Rockefeller. Love it. It's an unusual name. I've always liked surnames as first names.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And that thing of like, like, their, think it's like three things to look for. It's like, can Rockefeller come out to play? You know, it's like, is Rockefeller coming out on a day? And all be upstanding for Judge Rockefeller. It works on. Those three things. Because sometimes you give him a silly name, Does that shorten or are you going Rockefeller? We go Rockefeller. I mean, I always like Fella is a very, I think it's a lovely thing.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I mean, people always go with a rock thing and you go, actually, thellers, great name. Yeah. Right, fella, yeah. You're fella, brilliant. I like fell out. It shortens to so many different things, the, yeah. Obviously, I think it's great. What do you, your kids, hang on, I know, I feel like we should all share. Well, that's the thing, I've done, me and Lou have kept that because we haven't, we've never said their name publicly, but I don't really know why,
Starting point is 00:48:31 but we've never put them on Instagram or anything like that, but we I don't mention it on the podcast, but for some reason I mention it everywhere else. So it's like... It's like... I don't want to do anything you don't feel comfortable with, but it felt to me like the name was out there because I did the dedication in the book and I wanted to put his name. I wanted to make it. Yeah, but that's what happened with me. Yeah, you're sort of putting it out out out out out out out out, to putting it, to putting it, to, to, to, to, to, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, you to do to do to do to do anything, you to do anything anything to do anything anything anything to do anything to do anything to do anything to do anything to do anything anything anything to do anything, you to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do anything anything anything anything anything anything, you to do to do to do anything, you to do to do anything, you to do anything, you to do to do anything, I, I, I, I to do anything, I to do anything, I to do anything, you to do anything, you to do anything, you to do anything, you to do anything, you they.. to do anything, you to do anything, you to do anything, you to do anything, you know, you know, I, I a sort of fun, it's a fun thing to do. Well, no, but I didn't put it in a dedication, now I feel guilty and I just put the girls and I've not said it. So I need to talk about, Lou about that, about the names, talking about the names, but I think to the name, but I think I probably, because everyone's going to know the name. It's just, it's just, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's the name, I's the name, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I'm not, I'm not, the, the, the. L. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the. the. the. the. the, I daughter's called Pearl. Oh no I don't like that. Pearl is great. What was that? What was that? What's the, um, God, there's an amazing song from the 80s, Pearl's a Singer. It's the first line of the first line, Pearl's a singer. And the second name's pretty special as well. I think you can enjoy this. Cassius is brilliant. I'm going to. Cassius, the first the first the first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first. The first. The first. The first. The first. The first. The first. The first. The first. The first. The first. The first. The first. The first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. this. Cassius is my boy. Oh Cassius is brilliant. I'd like Ian Morris's kids called Cassius. I call Cassius.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I'd call it Cassius. I'd call it Cassius the original name of Mohammed. I really. I presume for Cassius in some form or that was the... Yeah, well we were going to call him. We're going to call him Mohammed, I'm a great name,. It's the... I think I would have caused issues. I remember reading a Sapsing, it's the most common Christian name in the world. I think we've got to come up with a different term for Christian. It doesn't seem that Christian. And Cassius has got that lovely thing where it feels a bit in 1950s, but also like, you never hear it. It's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:25 You must have been emptied by Dean after Pearl. And with Rockefeller, would you want Rockefeller to follow your footsteps and be a comedian? A lot of people say I'm barely a comedian Rob, so who knows? Oh, stop it. I think following my footsteps, it's a weird one where you got, I mean, kind of this is what the book's about, I think, thk, th is, th is, th is, thi, thi, kind, thi, kind, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to to to, to to to to to to to, to to to, to, to, to to, to to to to to, to, to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the the the the, the theeeeeeean, the the thean, the thean, theean, thean, to to the book's about. The book is about, I think I'd love him to follow my footsteps, but not necessarily into comedy, into whatever makes his heart sing, whatever that thing is that just makes him go, oh, I'm so happy doing this. To fail. If you get to find that thing where you live to work, not work to live, that's for me, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, to that's, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to, to, to to to, to, to, to to, to to, into, into, into, into, into, into, into, into, into, into, into, to, to, to, to, into, to, to, to, into, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to whatever..... to whatever, to whatever, to. to whatever. to, to, to wo, to me. to me, to me, to me. to me, to whatever, to whatever, to me. to me. to whatever, to whatever, to whatever, to whatever, to, to, to, toe. to live. That's for me incredible who wouldn't want that for their kid. Oh my God Jimmy Carr's got a fucking heart. What's happened? Jim, it's beautiful isn't it?
Starting point is 00:51:11 No one, I didn't know it was there. All I knew secretly, but not in public. My favorite quote in the book is there's this lovely quote by an American writer that says like having a a kid is like having a medical procedure where your heart now lives outside your body. Oh, that's lovely. What a way to end it as well. We do normally have a question about what annoys you about your partner. The most moving one we've ever done was Jimmy Carr. Who thought that was going to ever happen?
Starting point is 00:51:37 Jimmy, it's been amazing. We do have one last question though, if the one thing that annoys you about the way your partner parents that you don't really bring up in case it causes a row? I imagine you would bring it up though, Jimmy. Is there something that your partner does that annoys you parenting wise that you don't think you should be doing? Um, no, I mean, it's like, I don't think it's, hang on. Let me bit less and I think the use is God it's a lot. Heroin does calm you down. Yeah, there's a fun mum's fun though isn't it? Why there's so many sharp things? Jimmy it's been amazing. Thank you so much. It's been an absolute
Starting point is 00:52:18 pleasure Jimmy. The book is before and laughter subtitle, life-changing book. Oh joke title, obviously I did loads of joke titles that I pitch the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the to to to to to toe toe toe toe toe. toe toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to to to to to to to to to to toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tio. tio. tio. tio. tio. tio. tio. tio. tio. tio. tio. tio. tio. tio Joe title. Obviously, I did loads of joke titles. I pitched the book on the title, Jim will fix it. And the publisher bought it on that premise. They went, yeah, that sounds hilarious. It's great. And then, as it got closer to the date, I think they called the people at Tesco's and went, they're not going not going not going not going not going not going not going to stop to stop to stop to stop to stop to stop to stop to stop to stop to stop to stop the to stop to stop to stop their not to stop to stop to stop to stock it if you call it that. So I wanted to call it just the tip, take it from Jimmy Carr. That's excellent.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Just the tip. Well, there's always the paperback, Jimmy. There's always the paperback. Yeah, I could change it for that. But it's been a new, you both have got books out right now. Yes. I haven't read they. I. I. I'm. tho. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. to. the. tho. the. t. t. t. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. tha. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the paper. the paper. the paper. the paper. the paper. the paper. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the middle of like when lockdown here we've all got the call from our agent after about three weeks tell me you can't just sit on your ass you're either doing a podcast or you're doing a book and you greedy fuckers have done both. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Starting point is 00:53:18 Cheers, mate, thank you so much. Thanks Jim, that's perfect. Thank you very very very th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho thi thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu tho-I that-I that the that. that. tho-a' that. that. that. that. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. thea. thea' thea' ta'a' ta'a'a' ta'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a' so much. Thank you very much. Jimmy Carr, I love that episode, Josh. That was brilliant and I genuinely, I love seeing that side of Jimmy Carr. It's so, it's exciting, isn't it? I can say, it's thrilling to hear Jimmy Carr in that way. Do you know what I mean? Well yeah, because I've sort of known Jimmy quite like, and I'm, as well, like, as the person, not just a sort of joke machine. And he's a really lovely brother, very caring and very like, we'll always offer advice and help you out and things like that and he's always been really good to me, but you've never
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Starting point is 00:54:27 Just to park it, I'm going to make you breakfast. I can't also color in with you. So could you just watch Jojo and Grand Grand. Yeah, exactly. But each their. I'm jealous of the ability to parent. Good on him. Wicked, well that was Jimmy Carr. I told you we have big dogs leading up to Christmas. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:54:49 It's all about the buildup to Christmas. And the great thing is, the Christmas, the season of giving, they just want to come on What I love about how successful this podcast is, people like Jimmy Kara McIntyre are going on it and I can imagine going, really? Really? I'll go and talk to Robert Josh about my kids. What? And that many people will listen? And they sold that many books after doing it? Fuck. Oh for fuck, say, all right. I'll do it. I'll do it. Oh dear. Right, let's, I will see, see on Tuesday, isn't it, Josh? Bye. See you like, bye, bye.
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