Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S03 EP36: Sophie Ellis-Bextor

Episode Date: November 12, 2021

S03 EP36: Sophie Ellis-BextorJoining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant singer-song writer, Sophie Ellis-Bextor. Sophie's book 'Spinning Plates: music, men, motherhood and me' is available now. Tour info and tickets can be found at www.sophieellisbextor.netPlease rate and review. Thanks - Rob and Josh xxxIf you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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She came in at the end, si? She was praising a dog for having a shit. Hey Josh and why do you say that? Rob, why is that the first one that jumps in your head? I can't, I'm training a dog mate and I've got a dog. I've got a dog, John Wick, got a little dog, my little mate. Oh, Wallace and Gromit. Hi, Josh and Rob. We've been avid followers of this is, me and my husband are both Christian ministers. Oh! Your podcast has helped us through when parenting for the first time.

Wow. And serve the growing need of our community felt overwhelming. You gave us laughs we needed. Sorry for swearing, guys. Oh, fuck off. Don't listen. That's my problem. This is our 20-month, I think you stopped counting in months after one. It was just started copying everything we say. P.S. We've bought both your books so pretty sure we deserve a shout-out, Rachel and Tom. Thank you.

Yes, Rachel and Tom. Glad that we're big in the minister community. Yeah, I'll keep the religious guys on side. I've not really got a, don't really dab in it myself, I'm not really problem with it. That's my view on religion. Exactly, my view is. Do you want to know my view on religion, Rob? What's that? I don't have the brain power to know whether there is or isn't a god. I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to stake my number either side. No, well I treat religion a bit like veganism. It's probably the right thing to do but I can't be bothered. Oh to be bothered to be bothered to be bothered the to be bothered to be bothered to be bothered to be bothered the to be bothered to be bothered to be bothered to be bothered the to be bothered to be bothered to be bothered to to be bothered to to to to to to to to to be to to to to to do the to to to to to to be to be to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thii. to Lisa Ranganatham. Oh yes! Who is a long-time listener of the show, much to her husband's annoyance. Yeah, Romesh texts both of us, it livid that Lisa Ranganathen, hi Lys, how you're doing

well. We would just like to publicly offer you the opportunity to come on the show and we can chat about you. You're all welcome. And we can chat about you and your lovely three children and how you deal with them and things that annoy you about your partner, Romesh and how he parents. So Lisa, if you're listening, you've got our numbers. Just let us know we'll get you on the show. Maybe a Christmas special. Exactly.

Yeah, it's great to have, you know, we've had John Richardson and Lucy Boam on. It's good to hear Lisa's side. So Lisa, whenever you're whenever you're ready. The correct side. It'd be good to hear the truth wouldn't it? It'll be good to hear the truth about their children and not be sidetracked by Fortnight. That would be lovely. Anyway, thank you for listening Lisa and you know I'd love to say that Rose can't stop listening to hip hop save my life but I'm not going to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their children. treo. true. truths. truths. truths. truths. truths. truths. truths. their their their their thetoo bad, just a few pieces and shit in the garden and the dog training is going well as well. You know what? No wonder? I've got a sat hound and it does loads of shit. How are you? You're all right? Yeah good. I was just, you hear jokes like that and you go... No wonder we're popular people like average comedy. People like comedy that gets the job done straight from A to B.

They're busy people. They don't want to be challenged. They just want to quick laugh, a quick switcheroo joke, pull back and reveal it was actually me doing a poo in the garden and not my dog. The sat hound. But you know, all good. All good. Kids are all just sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort just sort just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. to to to to to to theiruu. to theiru. theiru. theiru. theiru. theiru. theiru. theiru. their-a. theiru. theiru. theiru. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. the the their the their their their their their the sathound. But you know, all good, kids are all alright to a point and yeah, just sort of just surviving. How about you? Can I talk to you about something Rob? Yeah, go on. Teething. Oh no, what's happened? Uh, this is Teeth City here at the moment. It's, my daughter wasn't a bad teether, but I've only realized that four years on. Oh no. Is she lost any yet for a new. thing. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi's thi. to. to. to-I's to-I's to-I's to-I. to-I. to-I. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to to th. th. th. thi. the. the. S. S. S-s. S-a. S-s. S-s. S-s. S-s. S-s. Soer. S-s. So-s. S-s. yet for a new ones yet or? No, no.

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Just give it some cow-pollet, it'll be fine. Loves Mr. Tumble this dog? Yeah, no, teething to an absolute nightman. Ah, it's a bastard, in it? Cold, cold shit, and they're like, absolutely, just unhappy the whole time. Well, not big, big red cheeks. Do you know what I mean? Like, were you good or bad for teething? Not too bad, but there was a, it's a bit like,

being, I imagine, you know, like people just in the war, come home and never talk about the war, because they've sort of blocked it out of the head because it was so horrific. I think that's what happens with parenting. There's certain stages I've been through, which is quite good that we document it on here, that I completely forgot ever happened, but yes, I imagine it was horrific considering the teeth situation that's going on in the person that bred them, ie, me. You have the horse. They're bringing out the big dogs. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're bringing out, yeah, yeah, they're, yeah, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, yeah, yeah, they're, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they're, they're, I, I've their, I, I'm, I'm, I've their, I've, I've, I've, I, I've, I've their, I've their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I I, I I I I I I, I, I I I I I I I I I I I I, I I I I, I I I, I I I, I, I I, I, I, I, I, I th. I, I, I, I their, I've their, I've th. I've th. I've th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I've th. I gummy cream stuff. The big dogs, you can't get dogs off your mind. It's unbelievable. Oh God, it's so, don't, it's really, it's actually quite anxiety-inducing having a dog. Is it?

Is it? Oh, God. It's just a thing there all the time. theymeaskshap. . Yeah, stop talking about. Let's do some Instagrams. Let's stop talking about fucking dogs. Okay, hi, I just listen to the Have You Taken Magic Mushrooms pod and generally the family parking spaces for ages of children up to 12 years old Love the podcast Michelle. I think that's because 12 year olds is when they don't have to be in a car seat booster Yes, of course. So that's that sort I saw a man parking of space the other day and I thirty. I saw a man. I saw a man. I saw a man. I saw a man. I saw a man. I saw a man. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. the the the th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the their their the their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their the other day and I nearly said something Josh but I panicked. Did you? I didn't want to confront him. He was a man on his own and he was old though so I didn't know if he had a sneaky little blue badge which basically means you can part where you want to thinne it if you got a blue

disabled badge. Yeah yeah yeah so I didn't want to go to make me down with your kids and he turns around your guys I'm actually disabled and I'm like so so so so I so I so if so I so if so if so if so I so I so if so if so if so if so if so if so I so I so if so if so I'm like so if so if so if so I'm like so I'm like so if so if so I'm like so I'm like so I'm like so I'm like so I'm like so I'm like so I'm like so I'm like so I'm like so if you the the the the the the they I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you the the the the can can can't they. I they. I they. I they they. I the can the the the the the the pop bitch. You can't be out with this wheelchair, please, because I'm just like, okay, yeah, I will, I'm really sorry, mate, yeah, I will. So I didn't say anything, but apparently 12 years, up to 12 years is the age. Hang on, here we go to go to go back and listen to it. This is from Melanie. Just listen to. It's not as weird as it sound. Well it is.

It is weird but it wasn't intentionally weird and that is sort of man slaughter milking. This brought back the memory of when I was 17 working at Orton Towers at the front of the queue for oblivion letting people on the platform where the ride docked and I got stung by a wasp. Pretty much immediately a lady at the front of the queue whipped out a boob and squirted some milk on the sting on my arm. What? Yes she said she did it because breast milk is healing and would reduce the sting. Oh my God. That was not acceptable. No. That is I'm not sure how I feel about to be honest. My action was ever so polite and I probably seemed very grateful but inside I was thoroughly confused and a bit creeped out her family who were queuing up her looked on slightly apologetic

and ever so embarrassed that that is not acceptable no you can't whip your ti out and squeeze me all kind of sting I think I just get on oblivion to get out out of the situation in that jump on oblivion, press start, go by. Oh, imagine that is, that's not okay. Do they work? Well, even if it does work, you have to ask for, if you get jelly, jellyfish, apparently piss works, but you have to say, can I piss on you? Yeah, yeah, of course. I think if you're going to piss on someone, or squirt milk on someone, there needs

to be a communication of consent. Bare minimum sign a waiver, really, in that situation. You can't just whip it out, squeeze milk and go that, there you go, thank you very much. Invoice in the post. That is one of the most surreal, imagine queuing up for an hour for oblivion and that happens in front of you. I think I think you've already had oblivion. The ride is just extra. Hi Guy, I love the podcast, just listening to the latest one. I thank my lucky stars every day I was born a girl.

My dad has four daughters and wanted to call every single one of us, Gariff if we were a boy. Oh. You would have thought over 13 years he would have gone off it, absolute madman. Hazel. Hazel. Not Gariff. Nice name Hazel. Right, Joshua, who we got this week? Sophie Ellis Bexter. Who has Rob? How many children? Five. Five children! Cinco de Mama. Yes. I was a Cinco de Mayo. Oh yeah, nice. It's really quite good that. Was that good, but yeah, she needs to be on, but if she was Mexican it would be better, wouldn't it? Yeah. It's just, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th really quite good that. Was that good? But yeah, she needs to be on... But if she was Mexican, it would be better, wouldn't it? Yeah. It's... Well, yeah. Sorry, his, his Sophie. Sophie Ellis Bexter or Sof, welcome to the podcast. Hello. Thank you for having me. Oh, we're excited. Yeah. I think you've got the most children that we've got Paris Fury on soon, which I think think think think think think think th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. Yeah, th. Yeah, if th. Yeah, if th. Yeah, if th. Yeah, if th. Yeah, if th. Yeah, if th. Yeah, if th. Yeah, if th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, thi, thi. Yeah, the. Yeah, thi. Yeah, the. Yeah, th. Yeah, thi. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, excited. Yeah. I think you've got the most children that we've got Paris Fury on soon, which I think may beat your record, but you will hold the record. For a week, I think,

five, five children. Is that correct, Sophie? That's correct, the last head count, five. Five. Five. All boys, right? Yes. What ages have you got? My eldest is 17 and my youngest is 2. Oh wow. That's a lot of kids hope. So is there a big gap between the youngest and the others or is it all just spread out quite evenly? There's five years between the first two and then three years for the next four. Wow. Yeah I got into a bit more of a rhythm. Like a conservative election year just sort of five years in 3-3-3. How is that now? Because it must be, you're doing two things there.

For 17-year-old and a 2-year-old, you've gotten completely two different things. That's the thing. I mean, my youngest started nursery the same week. My eldest had his first driving lesson. So you do get those parallels quite often. Did he drop him off? That'd be quite handy. It would be handy actually. But I think I quite like all that. I quite like the juxtaposition of all the age. For me, it makes things, I mean, sometimes it's easier I guess if they're closer together, but sometimes there's a nice balance that comes with having lots of different stuff going on all the time. Yeah. Well that's why I can see why you I cald you you you you the book you the book the book the book th you th you th you th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi that that that that thi thi thi thi. I thi. I thi. I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I the. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I see why you called your book Spinning Plate. Because how did you write a book when you've got these five kids to look after and your career of, you know?

You know what, I was quite chilled about it, I think is the way to, I approached it, because my mom, she's written books and she said, don't feel like you've got almost, you know, turned into a different person who's writing a book. So I just would thi like like like which is my youngest bedroom and also my dressing room. And I'd have the door open and I'd just be tapping away and I'd just sort of see how long I could get away with without anyone to disturb me and if they did then I would just stop for a while. Yeah, just little bit of both kids though, so you would know. Yeah, just little choke. We're two kids though. It's easy, Rob. Yeah, just little little little little little little little little little little little. You the book. You the book. You the book. You the book. You the book. You the book. You the book. You've the book. You've the book. You've the book. You've the book. You've the book. You've the book. You've the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. I the book. I the book. I the book. I the book. I the book. I tap. I tap. I tap. I tap. I tap. I tap. I tap. I tap. I tap. I tap. I tap. I tap. I tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap isn't it, Rob? Yeah, we've got two kids, you know. I didn't even have a dog though. You couldn't do a book with a dog. You couldn't do a bit of a dog. No. That's a fact, didn't it?

No older. Foggined a dog. Stop bringing the dog up, Josh. You know, it gets in my to college now and so yeah he just finished his GCSEs last year and now he's doing a design course so yeah I'm nearly he'll be 18 and April and then I think I Richard and I might be like one high five like one as a done yeah yeah yeah only 16 years to look to his five in the back so do you do like 50 50 of the parenting or is it one more than other how is it how do you div it out because it the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. it th. it th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I I I's. I I I I's. I's. I I I I I's. I I's. I's. I I I I I's. I's. I's. I I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's th. I's the th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the the the -50 of the parenting, or is it one more than other? How is it, how do you divvy out?

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kind of stuff but not maybe and then he made him or the physical moving them there and taking them there stuff okay I mean like Richard it wouldn't be that unusual for him to get their ages wrong or the eight the year that they're in at school okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay I I I I I the the that the the that that the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that I I I I I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th the th th th the the th th that stuff. What car have you got? Sir I'm getting into details now. Five kids, what's the car sitch? So? Well, so we have, we've got a Chrysler, like an old beat up, old car, Chrysler, that's a seven-seater that we use when we need to do a family trip. And does that get car seats in as well?

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cities but yeah it's a big it's quite a nice van but it's a basically a van with seats in isn't it that that's exactly what it is and then we go from that practical and then down to sort of impractical which is um it's actually being fixed for the moment moment We have a tuk-took. Well, a motor one or a bicycle one? It's a motor, yes, it's electric. But yeah, it's basically got like, it's like a trike. So you've got like a motorbike type bit of the time of the scooter and then you can fit three in the back. So that's good for the primary school and the nursery drop off. What's it looks the the the the the the same the same the same the same th is th is the same th is th. What's th is the same th is th is th is th. It's th. It's th. It's good th. It's good th. It's good thi thi thoom. thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thoomoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It is th. It's th. It's th. th. It's th. It's th. th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's the. It's the. It's thea. It's thea. It's thea. It's thea. It's thoooooooooooooo. It's the. What's who does that go? What's it look like? I'm trying to go? So is it? What's the same colors as the Mumbai Tuktook? So it's yellow and black? Yellow and black? So you get three in the back? Wow. Is that quick? Do you know what is called? So I can see it? If you Google Mumbai Tuktu took. Is it a one that you've been imported over? Yeah? So there's there. Well, well. Well, well. Well, well. Well, well. Well, the. Well, the. Well, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It. It. It. So it's a it's a one that you've been imported over. Yeah, so there's well basically Richard and I went to Delhi, probably it must be about four years

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the more challenging life. And how old's he? And how old is he? He's 12 now. But he's already nearly broader than that's, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, th, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to, is.e.e, to to to to to to to tothere's quite a tall gene so when they get start to overtake you that's when it gets a bit trickier I think yeah what's it like telling off a massive bloke yeah that's making you make of a sandwich I don't know about you guys how old are you guys to how old are you guys to the to the k I'm to the to to to to to to to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the told told to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the a three-year-old, so we're right at the other end of the spectrum. Well, my experience is when they get past double figures, the telling off changes shape a little bit. Actually, maybe not double figures, maybe when they get a bit old, like 13, 14. So I don't really shout on my oldest ever. It's more like we'll have, you chats about things. Yeah. I don't think

telling off would work really and it's all about you've got to be really careful with keeping the communication open and actually I spoke to Catlin' Moran once about it because I do a podcast as well where I talked to working moms and she said you've got to bet yourself like a friendly cow. So you don't try and problem solve everything. You sort of act a bit like, hello, how's it all going? A bit sort of sleepy and dopey. But really in here you're like, well out of the screen. And actually I think that's quite a good technique with teenagers. I'd recommend that. Do you feel like seeing these children at different stages? Looking now, can you see their personalities are really clear from the off or do they like who they are earlier? Yeah, no, I'm big. I mean, my belief is that I, Sunny was who Sonny was from the moment I laid eyes on him.

He just happened to be a baby when I met him. And that's, I felt like that all of them. Because you think you're having a baby and you got all these ideas about, I'm going to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to think parenting is a lot more reactive than I ever anticipated. And they need different things from me and certain things work well with one and not so much with another. So the kernel of who they are is just set in setsown from the offset I think. Yeah. Does that worry, Rob?

Or does that make you? Yeah, I agree with it because my two's personalities have been so setting stone from day one and it's just getting just more like confirmed as they get older. And the second one is definitely livelier. Like that's the one I'm worried about going out and about. And I think that's true about, that's a really sort of wise thing about when they're older is I think teenagers hate being told what to do. And it's almost like you You you you you you you therapist where you just listen and then you say a couple of things that isn't necessarily telling what to do but then they sort of go figure it out from themselves but then they feel like they've thought of it yeah as opposed to

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and Grand Fft Auto came out, right? There was all these bad news, like, oh, kids are gonna be drug dealers, or they're gonna be murderers and all throwing................... And, and people... to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to be. to. to. to be. to be. to be. to. to be. to be. to be. to be. to. that. that that. that that's. that happens. that that happens. that that happens. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that.. That. That.. That.. That... That.. That..................................................................................................... that. that. that. And my mom don't know that it's literally just a little PlayStation game. I'm watching the tele but you're pressing a couple of buttons and it's all, you know, there's no difference between watching like a gangster movie and watching, you know, and that kind of stuff and like, and when you're a kid you're playing it, my mom's like, you can't play that game or you'll have that game that game that game that game that game that game...... Even at 14 I knew that and I knew that it was getting blown up because it's a media thing but if you open that chat it makes it a lot easier didn't it than just screaming

we've had a thing recently where the school sent home an email saying that we're not allowed with the kids are allowed to talk about squid game at school which is quite quite trick about it no fight about it that's a trick about it's not a to talk about a squid game. no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the s I I I I I I I I I I the s I the s I the s I the s I the s we the s we the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toe. I toe. I to to to to to squid game. Imagine that! That's a strict school that is. I heard you talk about a squid game. No, it wasn't, actually. So what did you do? It's a zeitgeist thing. It's like, the horse has bolted. What am I going to do?

And also, we've just had half thed that the girl sings when the doll and then to turn around and like Jesse's five at the time tends to shoot us and like Mickey the two are he does really good death scenes he's very good pretending to die. Obviously you wouldn't let a child watch in all the gore but they'll be aware of the zeitgeisty things. That's only it's a what's the time Mr. Wolf that game, it's just the Korean version of that game. There was a thing a few years ago where the teacher, he's not there anymore, but he phoned me because the kids were talking about fortnight at school. And it turned out that he told my kid off and said, you can't talk about fortnight and you're not as playing it.

My son had said, actually my mom doesn't mind. mind and the teacher said if your mom asked you to rob a bank would you do that and I was like when he told me I was like firstly that's illegal so you compare it like like a legal thing secondly if I decide the family's going and robbing a bank this weekend yes your bloody well doing it what a news story it would be if you got caught with your five kids robbing a bank, that would be. I was just I thought it was a weird comparison from the teacher. What are you trying to get my son to like question what I say now? Thanks. Yeah.

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and about how we are interacting. It's a busy house and it's, you know, and also when thisry to be kind of understanding, but yeah, I think I try and keep rules on manners is probably my hottest stuff, I'd say. Did you always want like a busy house? Like was that something you always imagined living in as a... I don't know really. When I was little, I was actually an only child till I was eight. I'm the only one from my mom and dad. And then when I was eight my brother Jackson was born and I was eight, my brother, Jackson was born, and I was absolutely obsessed with him. And I think that probably sowed the seed, really. And he was, that's from my mom and my stepdad.

So he was almost like this sort of new beginning, like a happy new thing. And I think that's probably something that's hard wired with me, that like babies are good. And that whole thing of like having a baby, whole life really since then because I've got lots of little siblings now. I've got three sisters and two brothers who are all younger than me. Yeah. So I think that kind of chaos, that family chaos is something I really like. But in some ways I think if I hadn't had five I think I would have just had one.

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Yeah. I think that formed the bedrock really of our relationship and definitely how I parent. She did a lot of the same stuff I do, like lots and lots of talking. Like, my kids are very used to me just saying like, we're going to talk about this. And yeah, I've got like a little script for everything probably, which is probably very annoying for them. But I have warned them if they keep, you know, then I just like, look, I've got an inexhaustible supply of this and I'm prepared to have this conversation many times over. When you're a book in a holiday, how do you book a holiday that all the kids are happy with? Because it's easy when you've got to... You're absolutely obsessed with the way it works with five.

Yeah, I like the practicalities of it. Yeah, you love it. Just that sort of thing, because that would stress me out, because if you get a little kids poor, then you need to know you have something that the older kids can do in the evening and things like that. You're quite right. Well, actually in the last holiday we went on, my eldest didn't come on, my eldest, and I said to come, to come and I. and I to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to come, to, and to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, and to, to, and to, to, and to, and to, to, and to, to, to to to to to to to to to the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the during last summer as well for like six weeks to visit a friend in Germany and he did that by himself so he flew there and then I would just keep in touch. That's the longest he's done that for.

But I thought you know it's good for him. Yeah. He had a great time and I'm quite sympathetic. Because I was a lot older than my little brother and sister. that feeling of like you love them but you also it's kiddy stuff and it's all pitched to that age group and yes they do look cute sitting on the merry go around you don't really want to stand there like watching everything happen like that like he I think it's nice for him to go and do his own thing when he when he has the opportunity so I'm cool with that and then we actually did this holiday though for the first time tho th th th tho th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the the the the the the the the the to to to the to to to to to the the to their to their their the the their the the the tho the th first time ever we did hand luggage only, which I'm very proud of for. Wow. Four kids, a week away. A week away hand luggage only? Yes. Fucking hell. I know, boom. I felt so good about it. With a two-year-old as well. Where did you go? A naturish result? Yes, actually, yes. How did you manage that? Oh my god. Well the two-year-old is it easy because his stuff is tiny, you know,

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And then I do Jesse and Ray together, so take them up. And we normally would read a book, but they've got really into this thing they call Talking Time, which just basically means we chat for 10 minutes. And then I bring poor Kit, the 12-year-old-old is still sleeping, top bunk that he shares with his nine-year-year-year-year-year-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s- 12-year-old is still sleeping, top bunk of a bunk bed that he shares with his nine-year-old brother in the same room as his six-year-old brothers. There's three of them in the room. But yeah, Ray and Jess go to bed next. And then Kit goes to bed like half nine, but it's nice it's ten if he's being a bit obstinate. And then I go and knock bed because he's generally just in his room like on his computer or listening to music. Yeah. That's it. So we started about, bath time starts about 7, 6, 37, and it goes all the way

through to 10 o'clock with like intermittent breaks for me. Oh wow. When you're eating dinner at half-of-five for all of them. Oh wow, when you're eating dinner at half-five for all of them? Yeah, yeah, we got into that with lockdown really. Richard would do all the cooking. It's very good cook, which is great for us, so yes. And five boys, that's a lot of food, and it, they go, teenage boys eat a lot. I mean, me and my brothers. My mom and dad just takes all you can eat buffets in the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their to getfas to getfusfusfusfusfusfusfusfusfusfusfusfusfusfusfusfusufufufufufufufufufufufufufuaufu. to get bufies, to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get bufusususususususususususususus. to get. to get. to get. to get to get to get buffususususususus. to get buffus. to get buffus. to geta to geta to geta to geta to get bufus. to get is to get us to get us to get us to get us toe. toea. to toea. to to to to to to to to to get us. to get to get to get to get to hate us coming in and wait was panicking. Where are you in the lineup? So I've got two half-brothers that, so I've got three older, one younger. And there's five of us, but it was like, it's very boisterous. And we were like quite harsh to each other. It was quite sort of laddy, sort of harsh banter. But I don't know what it's like yours.

Do they get on or do they fight? Do they bit mean to each other? You're hot and kindness. So do you pull them up on any of that stuff on it vis into a bit, bit, bit harsh? Yeah, I try. I mean, I've got some that are more sensitive, I think, and a bit gentle with thage, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, with each other and then I've got a couple of more like, like one of them particular is really quite alpha I'd say.

So yeah, who can be a bit of school of hard knocks, but actually weirdly he's the one that the little ones really flock to because they actually really want his attention and his approval. So it's quite interesting. I'm trying to be better at just stepping back but I think as a parent seeing one kid be mean to another kid taps into something very deep. So I get very like, please don't be like that. He's only, he's only two or he's only five. And I think I'm trying to be better at just going like, unless they come and get me, like just stepping out of it.

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Well, my younger brother's two years younger to me, six year gap, and then a two year gap I think and then a two year gap so it's all really spread out and about five different generations so even like my oldest brothers are almost like my uncles. Oh yeah. There's so many Beckets aren't there? Oh my this we're so loud as well I don't but I just think you've got a slightly more calmer middle-class vibe in your house Sophie I feel I think that it's a bit more you know I imagine crochet has been said out loud in a the the the the, but sometimes I have cringed a bit when they're like, I want sushi or you know, I want my son. I've got some little part. But they play sports and stuff like that. They ain't a lot of clubs and sports or?

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but I'm not like, I'm not giving over my weekends really, no. No, no, exactly. You're already giving over like six hours every evening to bedtime, so. Yeah, exactly. That's enough. That's enough. one of date night and stuff like that. Have you got like will your mom babysit all five or do you have to sort of split them up and separate them? Because that's a lot for one, you know, one person to take on overnight or something. No, no, if we're talking child care, yeah. My mom takes them after school on a Tuesday before swimming, but no, she's very smart. She doesn't take all five ever. No. She'll do one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. No. No. No. th. th. th. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. th. No. th. to. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. to. I. I. W. I. W. W. th. I. th. th go this afternoon, I'm going to Newcastle to do my gig the steps this evening.

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Or is it a combination? So next spring is the kitchen disco tour. We're actually gonna do it with a full band and do it properly. But this is kind of like, I suppose I've been doing kind kind of kind of kind of kind of kind of kind of kind of kind of kind of kind of kind of kind and I just kind of want people to have a really good time and just it's just going for like the party cluby stuff and yeah just having a bit of a dance with people it's been so nice to have crowds again so yeah I think I'm just I probably come out a bit over enthusiastic if anything so I'm like super keen like yeah it's me and like wow she's a bit

enthusiastic well it's good well you've not been out to do it for ages. You want to do it. Also, you could be on a six hour bedtime. You're buzzing to be out on stage. I turned up on tour and I didn't, I didn't bring anyone with me. So I was in my dressing room my own and the manager of Steps came in and went, oh God, are you all all right? you....... to. Yeah, I love it when I'm gigging on my own. When you go do a show, I love seeing all the empty dressing rooms and see how much money I'm saving rather having

10 people. With the book when you're writing it, was there a part of you that wanted to kind of, I mean, they're talk about a question feeding an answer, but did you think about your kids reading it and did you think about whether one day they'll have this record of your life? Yeah I did actually I was quite aware that they might and like certainly my 12 year olds already listened to unaudible he was like how you think to think their toe? How do you feel about your k tonight the kn't to to to to to k. k. k of k of k of to k how to to to k how to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their toda. today. today. today. today. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their think I think you talk about quite intense and like some dark stuff in it so how do you feel about your kids read in that I just I just had a chat with I mean the little ones won't bother yeah I'm the older ones I just I had a chat with them and I was like yeah

these are the things that you might want to ask me questions about and now I'm quite an open person like I'm age appropriate way. I don't, there's no subject I'm frightened of with them to honest. I don't want them to feel freaked out by anything like that so I think I think some of it's okay I think it's quite helpful about this chastel. And they need to know I'm a 360 person I'm not just their mom. I've lived life and I've lived the life and I might be some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some about that can help them. I'm totally cool with that actually. Yeah. I think sometimes that dies. I've got something to tell you about what's in my book. It can do more harm than good, right? It's like if you're more relaxed about it,

and go, this is what happened, and that's how I feel know what it's like when you read or experience anything, you pull out the things that are relevant to use. The bits that, you know, there's bits of it that probably the bits of it, probably just was like, you know, thinks about something that. And if I mention it, you know, you know, it's fine. they. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the the the the the the bits. The. The. T there. Tthere. Tthere's the bits. Tthere's the bits. Tthere's the bits. Tthere's the bits. Tthere's the bits. T there the bits. Tthere's the bits. The bits. There's the bits. Tthere's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. There's bits. the index. That's why, if you get an ebook, you can just search your name. It's quicker that way. Oh, can you do that, Rob? Yeah, and just see if I've mentioned you. Just have a little scat about, yeah.

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because it turns into an argument? Is there something he does that just gets on your wick and you sort of just deep breath and move on? You know what? Nothing's sprung to mind, which I guess. is a good thing. Yeah, yeah. Anything he does that really noise me, I mean I suppose I mean Richard's done he's done like he's literally he'll put them in clothes that are from different that other his brothers draw he'll put the feet shoes on the wrong feet but annoyingly if he's sort of got you know full control of everything he's actually quite good at it which I

find kind of irritating because I think I got a lot more in a flap and he just like it's fine and sort of deal with it. So that annoys you that the fact is quite calm. Yeah and I did when you said about the bib thing it did remind me about it's not through my own choice because I don't really see the point of it but we've got a hot tub because Richard really likes having a hot tub and sometimes he'll get in there with the kids. And then when he gets out, he'll hang, if he goes in, he'll like, if he goes in in his boxes, they'll hang them up in the cupboard on top of the kids. We have like these little onesies

they put on in the morning if they're cold. Yeah, hang night before and I'm just like, that's not okay. I don't think where you put your wet boxes. Fair up, that is annoyed and you're right to bring it up and if he listens he might stop doing that. But then I'm already annoyed we have a hot tub. I'm just like, what's the point? Just have a bath like a normal person. Why don't need to be in the garden? Do you not get in it then? Not really. Like maybe like once a year or something. But he's like trained the kids so that even the little ones can go out out the hot tub,

get him a beer, come back with the beer, and they'll sit there having like philosophical chats under the stars. Kids love it. Oh, amazing. Oh, lovely. five kids and you're managing to have a beer in the hot tub. I've got two and I haven't done anything in about a year and a half. What is going on? Richard just manages to make life work out for himself. It's just one of those life skills that he has. Sophie, that's been amazing. Thank you so much. The book is called Spinning Plate. It's out now. Yes. A thanks. Spilling plate. It's out now. Yes. the book. Thank. Thank. Thank. Thank. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Richard. It's. th. th. Richard. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Richard. Richard. th. Richard. th. Richard just. Richard just. Richard just. Richard. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. thi. the. the. thi. he slag me off a gig or something where we met Sunday Branch. I made this right prick Sunday branch. Don't know what his name's was. He had massive nips. My God. Now back to my kids. Thanks Sophie. Good to talk to you guys. Chease mate. Sophie Ellis Bexter, she was absolutely lovely, wouldn't she? God, busy life.

What a life, Rob. Five kids. Absolutely obsessed with how everything worked in her house, weren't you? Just close your eyes for a second and just compute hand luggage only. Oh my God. I just send shivers down my spine. Do I have to be on the flight as well? You can't just send Rose with five. I'll stay at home with the 17 year old thanks very much. Yeah, just I have a

beer in the otter, watch a football. Yeah, exactly. She's loving, she's got to, she's got a good bone swell because she works loads so it's good to have that. You know, there's a little, you know, sometimes I think sometimes I thi th th th thi thinks we thinks we thinks we thinks we thinks we thinks we thinks we thinks we thinks we thinks we thinks we thinks we thinks we thinks we the thinks we thinks I thin, I thin, I their their their their their their work their work their work, I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thin the. I'm thea. I'm thooooomoomoome. I'm thooooome. I'm thooomoomorrow. I'm their thoome. I'll can't physically be in two places at once, you can't earn money and have kids and stuff. And I think sometimes that's a harsher on women than men, that child care thing. But yeah, good honor, she sounds like she's absolutely nailed it. Little tuck-tuck, I might get one of them. I love the tuck-tuck. You should get one, take her to preschool, come back, don't have to get the bus, don't have to pay a taxi. People saw me in a tuck-tuck, they'd absolutely.

Can you imagine? You definitely look like Noel Edmunds Edmunds in. Yeah, I just don't think I'm cool enough to pull off the tuck, but I'm just imagining, so imagining being in a traffic and a black, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, you, you, their, their, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you. You, you, you.. You. You. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, definitely. You're definitely tapy. You're definitely definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely. You're definitely, definitely, tapy. You're definitely. You're definitely, tap, you're definitely, you're in a fucking tuck and how angry they'd be at you. You outside. And then they go past you and they recognize you. And your life isn't worth living. And the problem is if you go back through Central and you go past like Mamma Mia and then like loads of drunk moms get in, they think you're like one of them do you know what, Rob, the price is they're charging, Robbilly, the price, their, their, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, the prices, and their, and their, and they're, and they're, and they're, and they're, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they're, and they, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.. And, playing on your Spotify. If you're like, go ahead, Rose.

I'm going to make more money by going into the West End and I'm going to be outside Harry Potter. Yeah, just trying to find a couple of Japanese tourists to charge 900 quid for a trip to Old Kent Road. To the totanum court road. Yeah. We'll be back on Tuesday with some more parenting chat, won't me, Josh? See you then, yes. Cheers, bye! Bye!