Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S03 EP4: Ellie Taylor (The Return)

Episode Date: July 23, 2021

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S PARENTING HELLS03 EP4: Ellie Taylor (The Return)Joining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant comedian, actor, presenter and writer - Ellie Taylor. Since her last appearance on the show Ellie has upped and left London for what she describes as 'the suburbs'....we're not convinced. If you've got deer in your garden and a badger problem, that's got to be the countryside, surely?! Ellie's fantastic new book 'My Child and Other Mistakes: How to ruin your life in the best way possible' is available now wherever you buy your books. We can't recommend it highly enough. Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks - Rob and Josh xxxIf you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and member terms apply hello I'm Rob Beckett I'm I'm Josh Willickham welcome to parents in hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener with your tips, advice and of, of course, tales of the the the the the their their their their their their their their ta..... ta. A ta. A ta. A ta. A ta. A ta. A ta. A ta' ta' trials trials tria' tri-a' tri-a' tri-a' tri-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a. tri-a. tri-a. trie. trie. trie. trie. trie. trie. trie. trie. trie. trie. trie. trie. ta-a-s. trie. trie. trie. trie. trie. trie. triuu. trie. trie. trie. trie. trie. they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. And Josh, Buddickham. Widakim, something like that. I think he was better at your name than mine, wasn't he? Widdockham's a hard surname. It's a difficult one for the two and a half year olds. It is, isn't it. But you know, who was that? Who was that giving it a good old welly? So that was, uh, Solomon, son of Ruth Andrews. I've been listening since day one. This is my lovely little boy, Solomon, age two and a half. He gets Rob's name spot on, that's a bit

of trouble with Whitacum. Your fault for having an awkward surname, Josh. Anyway, ch that for sure? Soul? That's Sol Campbell? Yeah. Or Soli? Sol. Sol. I think you'd end up calling it. Soul.

It's my accent. And a name can really change on your accent, can't it? Yeah. I mean, some of the names. Like Chelsea. There's a girl being Ch-Sk. Chels, chills, it's hard when it's a football team, more like Mercedes. What were the big names at your school when you're growing up, Rob? Lot of jacks. Lot of jacks.

Lot of jacks. I went to school with a kid called Lawrence. And we just called him Logs or Logs. And we just called him Logs. Why do you call him Logs? I don't know. the nickname. It's just called a nickname. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. the th. the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Lot. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. Lots. th. th. th. thanks. thanks. thanks. thanks. thanks. thanks. thanks. thanks. th thanks. tha. th. th. th. Lots., but logs, yeah. Shout out to Logo, if you're listening. Did you have many nicknames at your school? We didn't really do that many nicknames. I was called Bex until David Beck have existed. Oh, absolutely unbelievable. No, no real nicknames really, apart from just like, I think I mentioned before.

You actually, you and Lou, could be posh. Have I not thought of that joke before? Have you not thought of that before Rob? There we go. I'm falling apart, I've got nothing left. Josh, at some times, I'm excited. There's a date in the diary for the big school dad's night out. Oh, lock up your daughters. Kind of that's a weird thing to say. That's a really weird that is the worst, you know, the worst thing you could have said, but you didn't mean it, so we'll just go over that.

But like lock up, lock up your bloody pint taps. Yeah, too right. Yeah, the pint. Yeah, what are they called a pop? Fonds. What they're called? the. the. the't it? It's a tap. It's a tap. What you got on draft. That is what I've missed saying on a Spanish holiday. Yeah. What you got on draft? That is the best sentence of the holiday.

That's the most exciting part of a holiday. I've really been craving a proper holiday, because we've not in them because normally I don't know about you I go somewhere I try and pretend I'm cultured I want to visit places but I normally find the bar I can go there every night that's kind of what I do and that first day when you sit down in the sun you've just got there from the airport maybe you're still in your traveling clothes and you're sitting down you don't know what they've got on draft and then you have whatever they've got on draft. Oh Rob. You're so excited because you panic if they say John Smith's but if they say the local Estrella you're absolutely hard. I want to be hard for a pint in the sun Josh. I'm very aware

that I've been speaking about not drinking in the last episode. Could you just describe the experience of having a pint. I enjoyed that so much. Just describe the feeling of having a pint in the airport. Here's a feeling, right? Okay, so you've got, you've got off, you've got in the hire car or the coach or whatever to your hotel or your hotel or your apartment or your villa, and then you dump your bags, you've either go straight out or you've had a shower or you've had a shower. I take it straight out or you've got out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out. We've the shower. We've the shower. We've the shower. We've the shower. We've the shower. We've the the shower. We've the the the the the their. We've got their. We've their. We've their their their the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. I've got. I've got. I've got. I've got. I've got. I've got. I've got. I've got the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the've jumped in the pool of the kids because they're all hot and sweaty, and then you go back and have a quick shower, and then you're going out because it's evening time now, and you sit down at a bar and have a drink before you go out for dinner, and you sit down there and you say, what's on draft and you're wearing your brand new flip-flops, your new t-shirt? That's a t....... It's-what, it-what, it's-what, it's-what, it's-a-o-a-o-o-a-a-o-o-s. Yeah, it's-s. th-a-s. th-s. th-a-a-a-s. th-a-a-a-a-a-s. th-s. th-s. th-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a, and th.... th-a-a, and th-a-a, th-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s, tha-s, tha-s, tha-s. And tha-s. tha-s. tha-s. tha-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-s. And tha-s. And t-shirt? It's just a little Adidas one. And I've got for a white one because it's going to be really hot. And I don't normally like wearing white in the UK because I've got milky fat tits. But in the holidays I'm happy to forgive myself. Why not?

Just to be cool. You know, you sit there and say what's on draft draft. and they bring out a big cold, tankered pint glass that's been in a freezing. You're not like a tanked one with the hand, you're not actually touching the cold bit, you're keeping it cold and it's out of a freezer and it all goes cold and that misty on the outside. And the Spanish weight goes, grande, granday, English, granday, you go, yeah, at this point in time, I'll love that stereotype. Give me a big, frothy bastard pint of beer, and I'm gonna down it in one. Actually, order me two, I'm down in the first one,

I'll sit the second, on a fucking holiday. That's where I'm at Josh. Oh, mate. Oh, can you imagine it? Oh, God. I hate COVID. And then also, then you sit there and you're and you're and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I'm, the, the, the, the, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, the, I's, the........... the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. too. too, to. too. too. too. too. the the too. the the the the, because there's a little playground outside the bar. And then what happens is you sit there, they play for ages, you give them some euros to get a little toy out the machine, they keep running backwards and forward.

Then an entertainer turns up and entertains them for an hour doing some sort of shit song. You sit there, you get off cut, and then you slowly wander over to the play over the play over the play over the play over the play over the play over the play over the play over the play over the pissed because you get it in the Edbuff swing. That's the holiday I want. And when will you have that? 2020. Oh, fuck no, mate. Well, I'm supposed to be going to Dubai for a gig in October at the plant. Yeah, that sounds like, that's what you're looking forward to, your life is shit. When you're going on holiday with your family, I'm doing a gig in Dubai.

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I don't know what my bucket night out. Dad's night out. Because if you did that sober, that would be tough, wouldn't it, Robert? You've got to have a couple of drinks to meet new people with British. We can't just be confident enough to talk to new people, we don't know, exactly. Let's have a look, let'stables at the local pub, which is basically the nearest pub to the school, because everyone's obviously local, from 630 p.m. Bloody owl, some people are getting their kids in bed early, aren't they? Well, I, well no, their partners will be at home, won't they?

Oh, yeah. Because the moms will be at home, because the moms are going out onthe week before and we're going out the week after. Oh my word. And we've got, we've got it from 6.30 p.m. for the whole night in the outdoor area under the canopy. What time you tund it up? Catching up over drinks and dinner. Mmm, dinner bit sounds like they're not boozeers, are they? No, that is Rob, yeah. You, the first three minutes is the most important moment of the night because when you sit down that is where you are now. There's no mingling. No, yeah, oh yes. I don't think we should have to book tables. I think it should have just been stood up at a bar

chatty vibe because then you can meet. Yeah I think so. You don't need a sit-down dinner you're not Jesus and the disciples. Come on mate. What's the food gonna be? It's just pub fair. Pub. But yeah so I'm excited but what was quite exciting with because a lot of these dads work like in office jobs and have been working from home and stuff but they're so much better than admin than me I got said they went okay well and they I got emailed a a link that was like an availability check and this fucking spreadsheet like Svangali went, oh everyone's available on this day and we all were. Because we put all the information in. They basically market researched the dads.

And now we're all going on a day that we can all make. Do you think, Rob, that they're quite excited that you're there considering your careers on the up? Well I'm a bit worried, well yeah, the rebirth of me considering I wasn't a scrap paper according to that bloke last episode. I just really hope it's not a Excel spreadsheet dominated chat because I've got nothing on that. Have they circulated the topics that we discussed in the spreadsheet? I didn't even own a computer or Excel or Word until I got my book deal. Is that true? Yeah. So how did you email? On my phone? You didn't own a computer? No. So Lou had, Lou had a laptop which I used to use if I needed it? Blimey, Rob. I know. It's mad,

yeah. But now I've got a old one that didn't work from years. But that'll blow their minds. You should open with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that. that. that. that. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the the the the the the th. the th. their their their their their th. th. the. the. the. the. tho. the. tho. the. the. the. tho. tho. Blimey, Rob. I know. It's mad, isn't it? Yeah. But now I've got... Do you know what? That'll blow their minds. You should open with that. Ma'at. that's all sorts.

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Join us at Building better schools.c.a. A message from the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario. Right Josh, before we introduce Ellie Taylor, our returning guest who's moved to the countryside, which is quite interesting for more space and as a parenting decision, I think, I've got a couple more Instagram messages, do you want them? Hit me up. Okay, here we go. We will get back to emails, but my life is in flux. I'm happy to take, take Instagrams on for a couple of weeks where you survive for a child of acid refluxing. Here we go, but, but, right.

Love the podcast, completely relatable for parents. This one, I don't know if they want us to know who to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to to to to the, the, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, this one, I don't know if they want us to know who this is, another anonymous. When we went back to home schooling and they started doing zoom lessons, I hadn't realized the kids had not muted it, which all parents, teachers and kids can hear. Well, I had a busy morning, the kids had been fed and I got the last bourbon biscuit out of the packet and was looking forward went to get my tea and my French bulldog ate my biscuit. Oh my God. Sleep deprived and starving, I lost my shit. Absolutely lost my shit. Rightfully or wrongfully, I shouted at the top of my voice and called the dog a greedy fat My kids, my kids looked at me in shock and shortly after a whole school was emailed,

a polite reminder that everyone can hear what people are saying in their house. No. The only thing that made me feel better was I was talking to the dog and not the kids, but none of them know that. None of them know that. None of them know that. They think it's for the kids! He felt they were the kids! They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They were th. They were th. They were th. They were th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi tho tho tho tho tho thi thi tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thin' thin' th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thtalking to the dog and not the kids but none of them know that. None of them know that they think it's for the kids! He felt they were talking to the kids. They thought that's no. You greedy fat. I can really feel that's a real energetic delivery as well. A bourbon as well not even one of the good biscuits. I know but that's all she had. Oh man alive. Here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here. Here here. Here here. Here here. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I was th. I was th. I was they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's. I they's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I they's. I they's. I they're. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I th. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I th. I they're they're they're they're that's all she had. That is all she had. Alive. Here's a good one. This is about surprise pregnancy. Right? This is a good one Josh. On your subject of undiagnosed pregnancies, a girl I knew was suffering from suspected appendicit

symptoms. She was 16 going on 17 and with a steady boyfriend. He took her to hospital and they both got the surprise of their life when they were told she was in labour. The pregnancy has gone completely undiagnosed and with misperiards being dismissed by her stress from school exams. I think she's in like doing A-levels. Fast in hospital giving birth to their surprise baby. The girl's older sister who was pregnant, which was planned, came, oh God, is that burglar a long then? Oh my god, that's the guy that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the guy putting the locks on the window. It's wrong. Okay, I'll be quick. Could I just say also by the way to burglars? We're recording this Friday one. When we're recording Tuesday one, he hasn't been doing that job for three days. I've never had to do an appeal to burglars before. No. Oh God he's really got. Was he breaking in or breaking out the geyser? Is he locked him in? How good is the fact that the burglars can no longer get in now?

That's burglars trying to get out. Try your best guys, we've got locks now you fucking losers. Anyway, so, this woman who did, this girl didn't know she was pregnant, had the baby, but on the exact same day, the girls older sister, The girls, the girl, the girl, I forgot, right? The girls older sister came in who was due to give birth, and the two sisters gave birth to their babies on the exact same day and they're both girls.

What are the odds? That is insane. Right, need just to say, they're in shock, lovely podcast. Imagine that is so mad. Yeah, tha. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's tha, thuuuathing. thuathea, thuathea, thuathea, their thathea, thatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheat, their, tho, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th start. That is so mad. Yeah. What about stealing thunder? I know that's like proposing to someone's wedding, isn't it? I know!

Oh my God. Anyway, Josh, I think we should wrap this up before your burglar alarm goes in again. Oh yeah, I'll just say, before we wrap up, that the older sister is going to be livid because her babysitting opportunities have been halved instantly. Oh God that is brutal. You know that that does cause sibling rivalry. Exactly.

Exactly. Right, Josh we've got Ellie Taylor. She's moved to the countryside in Essex from Cool London. Love Ellie Taylor. Also got, I'd say the best discussion we've ever had about our post-Cesarian shit. Oh yeah, if you've had a baby and you're struggling with a big shit, this is a podcast for you. And if you're not, it's still pretty good. I would say, rule yourself out if you're not waiting for a shit after giving birth,

that really does narrow our audience. But it really was a learning experience for me and Rob, which I think we all enjoyed. Enjoy guys. Ellie Taylor. Hello. Hello? The return of Ellie Taylor. The return. She's back. Country. Country.

We always invite guests back. There's been a big change. Normally it's another child, but you've gone a different route, haven't you. I keep hearing you say that I've moved to the country. You've moved to the country. We can tell by your internet reception. Oh well that is quite shit. But I'm not I'm really not, I'm in, I'm properly in the burbs man. I'm in the burbs. I'm in the burbs. So what zone? What's zone? What zone? What's the zone? Are you in London? The verbs of what? The burs? The b. The b. The b. The b. The b. The bobbs? The bobbs? The the the the the the the the the th. The burbs? The burbs? The burbs? The burbs? I? I? I? The burbs? I? I? I? The that is? I? I is? I is? I is? I? I is? I'm? That is? That is? That is? That is? That is? I'm? I'm? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I'm? I'm? I'm on. I'm on. I'm on. I'm on. I'm on. I'm on. I'm on. I'm on? I'm on? I'm on? I'm on? I is? I is? I is? I is? I is? I isx I'm in Essex right on the so what zone oh I think it's like nine what's the point nine what is the point Rob your zone five suddenly feels really central God it's got I'm a good it's so stressed out in like midtown Manhattan where I live in zone five we yell at cabs everywhere and hot dog stands so last time we spoke to you

Ellie you lived down the road from me I did to the point where you were once I mean to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho. tho. tho. tho. thoo. thooo. tho. the thooo. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the spoke to you, Ellie, you lived down the road from me. To the point where you were once, I mean we used to often see each other in the park. We did. And you used to get cocktails delivered door to door on some little as a stash man's bike. Was that you was getting locked down cocktails? Oh yeah, and I advised Josh to get some of then he nearly died because they were so strong. Yeah that was it. That was correct. I couldn't deal with them. So you move from at the east end of London all the cool hip happening place to full-on burbs. I think you are in the countryside and you're in denial when you're clinging onto the burbs. But you're actually it's a bit of both but I did see a deer in the garden the other day. I did That's the rule. You can't see a deer.

They're at center parks, right? That can't be the suburbs if you've got deer. It is, it's kind of a weird mix. It's like I can see a deer, but I can also get a pizza express within about seven minutes. It's, it's, I'm walking a weird line here. I think that's just a future, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, the future, the future, the the future, that's the future, the the that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's their, that's their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theatsuooombs, that, that's that's that's that's that's that, that, whilst looking at wildlife. What did you what did you do when you saw a deer? Filmed it obviously. I'm immediately a little movie townie and we've seen a badger as well we've got quite a lot of badger problem if I'm honest in the back garden. What's the badger problem? Well they just every night they just

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Well, yeah, that is, that is true, you know. Oh, it's just a nice bit. Oh, it's a lovely bit where Josh lives really good. Is it, I don't think, Come on, when you're from London, when you're from London, who lives, who? Tommy Walsh from ground force? I bet he bought it when it was about 10 grand a house. I think Sharon Horgan lives quite near you, Josh. She does.

Oh God, this actually stinks of the Guardian. The little media liberal elite all just snuffling around with Tommy Walsh having a pint in the pot and arson with the cubs. The problem is I worked on Columbia Road Flower Market so I remember it just being horrendous around it. That was like 20 years ago I worked at the market oh my god how old am I I just said I worked at a market 20 years ago oh my sorry anyway but it's not ideal for kids is it that's what we get in yeah even but it's awkward now because Josh still lives there yeah but it's interesting because Tommy Walsh

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I'd moved to zone five. It's only Bromley, so it's still, it's not like miles away in the countryside, but you do notice the quality of like restaurants drops off compared to when you guys were properly in town, like right, where it was all sort of happening and stuff. So, but after a while you just, you do just want a pizza express and go to bed. Yeah, I'm sort of bored of trying new things. I know it's bad. Are you done Rob?

I think I've done. Have you tried everything you want to do? Yeah, like, yeah, but I was talking just don't think I can get in a headspace to try that. Just because I just think I don't know what it is I've not had it before it's all I'm probably going to order it's a lot of work that goes into it where even though you know a picture express pizza isn't the best in the world but you know what you're going to get consistency. Yeah and we were like we were looking at other places, properly more in the sort of country where, and it sounds so shallow, but there were places where you couldn't get Deliveroo, and we were like, it's an absolute no, we're not, we're not. You can't go back, we can't go to a timer that isn't Delivero.

Did you turn up at the house to view it and then turn the Deliveroo on to a... I did afterwards, yeah, I even, I think I emailed, I messaged in Livero and said, are you going to be moving into this area? And I'll say, oh my God. Oh my God, Ellie, that is Uber, but if you're lucky, you're looking at? What are we looking at? Well, I mean, if I look now, I imagine there's probably one car and it will be maybe 15 minutes away. Like, wow.

Let's all do that now. And then we can work out how far if one is away from the way. I can't even remember where Uber is on my phone because I just haven't used it for so long. You just phone a taxi firm, old school. Yeah, I'll admit. I'll be a very good. If I got an Uber now it would take five minutes, it's five minutes away. Five minutes away. That's, I'm disappointed in that. That is bad for you. I'm four minutes. I need to move to zone five. I'm on four minutes. I'm on four minutes. I There's not even a car. You're not even a car. Oh God, I'm stranded. You're going to have to be true- Just jump on a deer. Not even a car, you're stranded.

Oh wow. The one Uber he's doing a job. The one Uber is. That's like, have you ever got to go to cottage in the countryside, when you ring up to book and it's just one cab driver and they go, I can't do that job because I got picked markup at nine. You might have to get a today. I think I've still got saved in my phone from so many weddings in random places.

It'll be like John Taxi Herathing. Yeah. Yeah. Because you have to book it about three weeks in advance, ish. But obviously for you and your partner it's not ideal with that kind of thing, but is it better for your daughter? Yes, she... Is there more to do? Is she enjoying the garden and stuff like that? She loves the garden. A bit more hyper without the weed, is she? Yeah, it's a bit annoying really.

She's eating less though. She's coming through the pringles I bought, Morton Pack. Still there. No, she loves it. She goes now to a forest school, which is great. So it's proper in the middle of a forest. We have to drive down like, it's like a five-minute drive through the forest to get there. So proper potholes. Proper suburbs suburbs, sort of suburbs- suburbsy stuff, isn't it?

Five minute drive for a forest. Oh, five minute drive! But then she comes home covered in mud. So she's delighted with that. She loves having more space to run around, seeing her grandparents more, all that kind of stuff. So yeah, nursery and schools are they better where you are now than where you were before? I don't know really, we'll see about schools. It's not as clear cut, so I don't need to worry about that for another year or so. Yeah. I don't know, I don't know when you look into this things.

I just follow my friend who was a kid the same age, so whatever she does, I follow her. at the real reason for your move. When you said she sees her grandparents a lot, are we talking a move to increase babysitting opportunities? Is that what we're looking at here? I would say that was 80% of the reason that we moved. Yes, it's joyful. Can I tell you that, it's the best thing you've ever done. It's great. Better to have 50 average nights out a year than one really good one. And when they're around the corner, just dump them and run away, and then they love it.

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But it turns out, they have just eat in Italia? In Italy. Oh, sorry. The but we know what they do? Which is off the point of parenting, but you know, advertising boards, they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they're, they're, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the, it's the, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, this technology so that that's one that's one lot of footage but they change what's on the advertising board for the different countries. Yeah I saw that so it's like a weird computer thing and it just blew my mind so it's they just they just change the advertising board for different countries and languages. This is this is why this is why we're such a popular podcast Rob. This is what we're such a popular podcast for off. This is what we're doing that no one else is.

I'm happy that I made the recall time. I was already five minutes late. I've got a croaky voice and I'm still pissed. So I'm just enjoying the chat guys. So did your daughter notice the difference in her life now, Ellie? I don't know. She is genuinely more happy, I think, I think, I think it's really beneficial to her being closer to my parents to have that, you know, there's extra grown-ups in their life, I think it really makes them feel secure. It makes your life easier and then it's more, if you've got more flexibility, then you're more chilled rather than stressing about getting to it all, you know, and hashtag badgers.

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They're really clawing. It's like a stripy wombat, thrown. Yeah. So Ellie you've written a book about what period of parenting does it cover? Yes, well the whole all of it made all of it yeah so the book's called my child and other mistakes. So it has a great title. I know but it does have to sell well so I can afford the therapy my child will need when she can read. Do you know what it's a similar situation to us here isn't it Rob. What's that? Well there's a similar situation to us here, isn't it, Rob? What's that? Well, there's a slight kind of, did you go, or is the title kind of saying that parenting's

tough and I don't enjoy it kind of thing? Is that going to be problematic when my child's hold on? No, fuck on. they' told you. Do you know, I'll tha. I' the told you. Now, now you understand. It is hell, but, you know, life is hell. We just navigate through it.

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Like, yeah. But we just follow, we just like Lemmings and we've just done it because everyone else does it. But really, but really, it is quite awful a lot of the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's fair. But it's at the worst moments when you find yourself thinking about your friends that don't have children on what they're up to. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

No, but no, but what I'd say is though, you guys are in the, like, you've got a newborn, basically, Josh, and she's still only two and a half. But now, five and three, like, I've been out on they get that bit older. You do get that freedom back. So it's only, I'd say, it's only three years of your life you'll lose and then you can enjoy yourself again. I mean, I say all that, I mean, obviously she's joyous and she's actually talking now and she's so funny. And I'm loving I bit way more than the newborn stuff so it does feel like this definitely feels like there's way more sunshine than there has been. But yeah it was just wanted yeah I wanted to write a book about the whole sort of experience and it is it's very honest and I talk very candidly about how hard I found the newborn stuff

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Did you have loads of material?'ve lost a load of material. Yeah but then I just got a circular cushion shoved it up there in a way. Yeah it was a bit it was quite annoying because I had loads it's just really it's obviously it's so ripe for material as well so it's a bit annoying. Might have to get up the duff just to use some of going. Did you write it as you went, because I struggle to remember stuff. Do you know what I mean? Like, from that first period, it's really like really blurry and people, it's like the cliche, isn't it?

You don't really remember that first, those few months you blanked them out. So did you know you were writing this as you were going through? No, I think I actually I found it really cathartic writing about the birth and the newborn bit actually because I don't know it's sort of ordered my thoughts and it made me really think about it and reflect on how it was and I've said to my friends like you all need to do it just right down what happened and how you felt because it yeah it's just sort of I don't know sort of cleared things up for me now and I'm like that was my experience and I can sort of put it in a box. Yeah so yeah I really I really enjoyed writing about the newborn bit even though it was quite bleak and I

think I think in hindsight I probably had some postnatal depression but but even through that there's so many like I remember last time I came when I spoke to you about the ridiculous lactation expert that made me pretend to breastfeed a puppet of Elmo. Yeah yeah so that I mean that stuff happened I mean there's the lovely horrific story about about me taking my first poo after I've had a kid which is oh yeah because that's quite a big deal isn't this is the theyx their own experience but women it's a different kettle of fish it's it was yeah more traumatic than the birth I'll be honest but the equivalent of that is if you've been out on a bender on a stag

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sorry you guys like it's an Ellie Taylor a massive shit? I don't want to be a big. You've got his coined it. I was a levy tailor. A massive shit. Let me ask Lou. Lou, Lou, how's your shit after the baby? No, she's just shaking her head. She doesn't engage, Ellie. Did you have an Ellie Taylor or a rose, a rose second one? Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Oh, dear one? Oh dear.

And Ellie, what I was going to say, is there anything else people should know about the change from city to suburbs country life with kids? Any tips you could give someone? Do you think it's a good thing to do? Yeah, I mean, why not? Why not? Why? I think, I think you can never regret space, I think, that's a thing for a kid. But also, they don't know they they they they they they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. that's. that. that. that. that. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. to to th. their. today. to that. that. today. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's that's that's I mean, we're back on that subject. Yeah, why not? Why not? Yeah, I think you can never regret space, I think. That's a thing for a kid. But also, they don't know the opposite. Like, so if they haven't got space, it doesn't, do you know what I mean? They don't matter?

they didn't know what they're equivalent house in the country because I remember when Miles Jupp moved from Peckham to Monmouth. He basically moved from a small flat into a mansion at the same price. Have you had that kind of experience, Ellie? It's definitely a lot bigger than the other than the London one, like 100 percent. But yeah, did you have a garden in London? Oh, you did because it was full of weed wasn't it? Yeah, the weed one. But it was absolutely tiny. And our, yeah, and our garden now is, well, you know, there's room for deer and badgers. So it's definitely, it's a bit of an upgrade.

It certainly is. So yeah, I mean, you do get free child care. Being able to just outsource, that's great. So we're ready to help. And my next question is, in 15 and a half years when your child leaves home, will you maintain your house where it is or will you go, I miss, I miss the city? I don't think you can move back into the city can you? I don't know if that's even allowed. You can't go... There's rules on that. Pretty Patel stood there going, no, no, you made your choice. I can't imagine going back into London unless I had like some cool little like bachelorette pad

somewhere. Oh, so if you get divorced, basically, you're saying. Fingers cross. So yeah. If I see you in the playground in Victoria Parker I'm so sorry to hear that you've you've split up. I can only presume that. Do you want some top-knock cocktails delivered to your door? And our guy? I think we always end with the same question don't we? Yeah, but I don't know if we asked you it last time because I think you might have come on before it cropped up. It's basically Crosby's law where is there one thing that annoys you about the way your partner does parenting that you haven't told them because it

might start a fight but you think is justified and if they heard this they would go yeah that is that is fair is there something that frustrates you about your husband is husband husband yeah what annoys me about him ah what annoys me is that he seems to have the ability to she listens to him way more than she listens to me which I do find quite irritating like I have to call him for backup and I hate that I hate that I that I can't get to the the to to to to to to to to the the to the the the they. they. they. they. they. that's that's that's that's that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that's that's that I'm that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I to to to to to to to to to to to that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's to that's to to to to to the to the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's thi. that's thi. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. him in for backup and I hate that. I hate that I can't go to sleep. It's so undermining. The little pricks is making me like an idiot. I hate that about him. What else do I hate? So give me an exact. So he wouldn't go to sleep unless he told her. Yeah, she's in a funny mood and then she was like, mommy, mommy, mommie, lay down. And I'll end up laying up that that that, I'll that, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th. th, I'll that, I'll that, I'll that, I'll th. I'll th. th. that, I'll that, I'll that, I'll that, I'll that, I'll that, I'll th. I'll like, I'll like, I's like, I's like, I the little, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the little the little the little the little the little the little the little, I'll the little, I'll the little, I'll the little, I'll the little, I'll the little, I'll the little, I'll th. I'll th. th. thi, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, like, I'll, like, I'll, up laying on the floor all night and he's like no I'll sort it out and goes in like and I don't know what it's like the baby whisperers whispers or something and then comes out and she's like huh my work is done oh oh he's a bit more stern is he yeah I think so she just respects him more than you yeah

I think so what what you don't like about the way you parents is a that she respects him more than you yeah basically I he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he the he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he's he he's he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th is th is the the the is the is the is the is the the is the is the the is the is't like how good he is at parenting. What about? Damn it. Sounds like the fact he's a really good dad. Yeah, God. He's really undermined to you as a mom that he's good at being a dad. Yes, basically that. What at all? Yeah.

Well, he sounds dreadful. Hopefully he hears this, and he sorts that right out. I'll feed him to the badgers don't worry. Yeah I just have a look at what badgers do to a lawn and they really ruin it then. You can't imagine Rob. I'll send you some picks yeah I don't. Thanks Ellie. Is there anything you can do? Do emailing guys if you've got any badges on their patch.. I don't mean that. I do not mean that. I've been a lot of dynamite. You want to ruin a lawn mate? Shut that down his set. Right. Thank you so much Ellie. That's brilliant. When's the book out? Twenty-second of July. But you can pre-order. Ellie thanks so. Ellie, thanks so much. Thanks, guys.

Thanks so much, Ellie. Bye. Ellie Taylor. I love Ellie Taylor. She's so nice, isn't she? Very funny. Good to writing books. Good at comedy. Not as good at parenting as a partner. Not as good parenting, but you can't be good at everything, can you? Yeah, exactly. If you've got a massive shit that needs sorting out, she'll pop her. Exactly. Buy a book or alternatively if you need someone to sort out of you Ben, she'll turn up with a shower cat. It's interesting though that I think a lot of people, you make that decision, that's what you're thinking about the moment isn't it whether you stay or go somewhere a bit more space in the suburbs. The way we would decide, I think what we're doing is we've got a nice little local school and if she gets in there, then that'll buy us a few more years.

Do you know what I mean? Oh yeah, I get you. So if Hackney Council are listening, come on guys, chuck us a fucking thoen here, give us our first choice. Also, on that Hackney council, could I get some more food waste bags? No badgers, so he's on badgers? Don't want badgers, absolutely not. Right, we'll be back next week with some more episodes. See you then. Bye.