Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S03 EP8: Babatundé Aléshé

Episode Date: August 6, 2021

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S PARENTING HELLS03 EP8: Babatundé AléshéJoining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant comedian, actor, ...writer, and star of Gogglebox - Babatundé Aléshé.Baba is also the host of the brand new series of the Puffin Podcast ‘Mission Imagination' - now live and available on all podcast platforms. Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks - Rob and Josh xxxIf you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.ukTWITTER: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:32 to the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully, how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener with your tips, advice and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, tipe, their tri-a, their, their, their, their, can their, can their, their, their, their, their, tri-a, tri-a, trie, trie, trie, trie, tri, tri, tri, trie, trie, trie, trie, tip, tip, tip, their tip, their tip, tipes, trie, trie, tri-a, tri-a'''-a'-a'-a'iii., toe. to to to to to to to to to tri-a, tri'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing. Hello you're listening to Parenting Hell Winn. Oh, come on, Josh. FoCoh, right. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th tho, tho tho tho tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the th. And we th. And we th. And we th. And we th. And we th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And thi, thi, thi. And thi. And to to to to to to thi to thi to thi thi thiii thi thi the thi. the the to the thi. And thi. And thi. to parents in hell when oh come on Josh focus focus come on
Starting point is 00:01:26 right here we go this is because you've been doing too many episodes you're not fresh this is not my fault that is slowly downloading oh my god my phone phone started I to pretend to be a child yeah I'm not gonna start to do it I think it's gonna be offensive I think it might be really weird yeah I don't think it's offensive don't you just do a high-pitched voice? I'll do it. You do it? Josh's... We should say, by the way. Yeah, explain what's happened with Michael. Michael's talking very quietly because he's brilliantly, he is looking after a child. How old your niece, Michael? She was the niece, Michael? She was thi- thininin, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi- thi-I thi-I to-I to-I to-I to-I, to-I, to-I, to-I, to-I, to-I, to-I, to-I, to-I, to-I, just, just, just, to-I-I-I. to-I, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just-in, just-in, just-in, just-in, just-in, just-in, to-in, to-in, to-in, to-in, to-i-I-s. to-s. to-s. to-a-s. to-s. to-s. to-a-s. to-I. to-I. to-I. to- and what's happened? I don't know, I'm not qualified. She was making like noises that were disturbing so I was trying to go breakfast.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Why are you looking after her? We recorded nine, this is 10 a.m. actually, we're recording. My sister has gone to the doctors with her partner and the baby was asleep. So I said I'd look after her and then the moment she left she she she she she don't know whether she's hungry or tired or I'm not qualified to do this guys. Is it, are you enjoying it? Do you understand our pain now? Yeah I wouldn't say I'm enjoying it but I've definitely got more empathy for you guys. Michael why do you, I mean you sound like you're commentating on the snooker. There's no soft furnishings in this house so I'm slightly worried. They're like if I laughed once and what, it's something you guys were saying and she stirred
Starting point is 00:02:55 and I was like, oh fuck, fuck, fuck. Do you think that's why this podcast, people like this podcast, it makes it feel illicit? Because you have to listen in quietly with a baby sleeping. Yeah, you laugh and you have to stifle it like you're in a classroom at school. Yeah, that's what it is. Michael, do you want to do it? Say our names in a sexy voice because Josh's phone's died and he can't have a child doing it? Yeah on Rob. Do you know what, this has reminded me, and I think we should do this as when it comes to it, that Michael suggested to me when we're having a chat
Starting point is 00:03:36 that when our books come out, each week he should do a little reading, have a little sentence or two from my book. Yeah, the more ridiculous line the better. Yeah, so we will do that that that that more ridiculous line the better. Yeah, that's a good idea. So we will do that because people do want more of Michael's sexy voice. Sexy lines we'll call it. I've realized by the way, that I've got, I did have something to talk about, but it was
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Starting point is 00:04:48 emotional and needed some quiet time. Instead my daughter jumped out of the laundry basket and said, boo! I burst into tears and I forgotten when we were playing hide-and-seek. What? And my partner had to in, leaving his work call to deal with the both of us. This is great from Gwen. The day in question was my birthday. Oh my worst. Oh God. Quen.
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Starting point is 00:05:54 My four-year-old had started waking up at one a today. to go back to sleep their takes a few good hours to get him to set him down. Anyway, last week we stayed at my in-laws who greeted us, showed us a spare room, and gave us a few bits of key information for our overnight stay. Roll on the next morning, when I was so, so tired after fighting to get my son back to sleep for three hours. So at 5 a 5 a.m. I decided to have a quick shower. I don't to to to to but it's early in the morning, 5 6 after his kid finally went back to sleep. I popped in and started to wake up a little in the shower and did my usual morning we in the shower. Admitting, lads, everyone does it. This is a real contentious issue, but he pisses in the shower. I've done the odd piss in the showerthat I remembered that one of the key pieces of information that I'd forgotten in my tired days Was the shower is currently blocked. Oh no
Starting point is 00:06:49 And we were told to have a bath instead So I was basically stood paddling in a small pool of yellow water. It gets worse My in laws came up as I was desperately trying to have he's got a towel on him now But he's desperately trying to fish out the wheel of a cup. oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, the. Oh, my. Oh, the. Oh, my. Oh, the the the the the the the the the the the the the to, he's got a towel on him now, but he's desperately trying to fish out the wheel of a cup. Oh no, and did something I instantly regretted to make them think I wasn't a dirty animal. I told them it was just my son's juice from the night before that I've poured in the shower, oh no one's believing that. Of course you've got a sink and you've got a the the the thethe shower was unblocked, it's your last port of call. So he said that he was just at a bath. And above! I would just pour the orange. Yeah, it's literally the fourth option. Or just drink it. Who's not finishing off their kid's juice? Yeah. Anyway, so I told them it was orange juice. My father-in-law knew straight away.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Of course he did. As his first comment was, drink it then. What? No! The father-in-law went, drink it then. What? That's just not a situation. What's the father-in-law's the kind of thing my dad would say to some of it? You know father-in-laws are a bit banter, a bit gge-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-di-a-dict-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-dict-dict-dict-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-sa-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a would say? What's the father-in-law do the thing my dad would say to some of like? Because you know father-naws are a bit banter, a bit geysery,
Starting point is 00:08:06 drink it then? Not wanting to lose the upper hand. No, this isn't peep show. My drunk. Life is peeped, Josh took their own urine and did my best to keep a straight face without heaving. Then the father-in-law instantly told me that he knew what I had done as he had done the same thing the first time the shower had been blocked and wanted to see how far I'd go.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Oh wow. This is the whole from meet the parents. I'd say keep me anonymous but I can't imagine anyone else has that that that thuels thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. tho tho thi that thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi the the thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I the the the an the an the an thean. I thean. I told told told told to to told to told told to. Oh my word, that is absolutely phenomenal. Oh my God, drink it then. That's like something a gangster would say. Yeah, yeah. That is a peep show episode, didn't it? That is a storyline from a sitcom. Yeah, that's phenomenal. Oh God, that is awful but excellent, right? Yeah. A today. Any more details to your kids party? You're still still a th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. that's absolutely. th. that's absolutely. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. throooooo. the. thr. tha. th Loved it. Any more details to your kids party? You're still pretty relaxed. No, it's still detail free at this stage. Just some, yeah, detail free. A park, free and easy. A park on the full team. It sounds like a hooligan meet up for a fight. Keep it quiet so the police don't know. Yeah, yeah, hey, thanks. Don't too many details. I'll bell you the details. I'll to be in details. to be in to be to be the details. to be to be the details. the details. to be the details. the details. to be to be the details. the details. to be the details. the details. the details. to be the details. to bea. their. to to to their. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. te. te. te. te. teate. teate. teateate. teate. teateateate. teateateate. teate. te. 'll bell you on a burner. I'll fill you in on the details next Tuesday. Oh wicked.
Starting point is 00:09:26 When the party will be about four days from happening. Straight into it. Balloons everyone. I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest. I've left it too late. It's like the Athens Olympics, Rob. I know what I'm heading towards.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Oh God, it sounds it's that stressful. You didn't say why didn't you want it in the house though is it because it didn't fit the soft play or just easier having those kids and people? You could get it in the garden but I just feel like the garden would be big enough for everything but it wouldn't offer the the freedom of the park. Do you know what I'm saying is right your daughter is trained in nicnak care care. the the the the the the the the their. to to to to to their. to to to their. to to their. their. to their. their. th. th. th. to th. to to th. to to to to th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the th. I th. I the the th. I th. I th. I the the. the the. the the the. the the te. te. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, the in knick-knack care. You unleash 10, 15 kids. Rose is going to have to do like a stop check. Exactly. It's not going to happen. It's just not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Playdates are going to be very stressful for you and the kids. Well, yes, we're going to have to take the lower plates off the walls. Oh, plates on a wall! You're saying yourself harm. You're asking for it. Is that the back? Kids don't get taller though, do they? Kids get taller, mate. And you know, oh my god. They just do things like, we went around Tom Allen's house the other day, and the kids were in the garden, took their shoes and socks off., you know, like, kids, their feet were like a Victorian miner's child, right? And they, and then they went indoors, walked on a carpet and then just stood with their feet on the wall.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Who puts feet on the wall anyway, then one dirty one. So I'm running around trying to clean it all, Tom's perfect house. It's beautiful. He just sort of sits in it like he's waiting to film a scene. And my kids are rubbing their dirty feet on the wall. Dirty feet. Feet's the dirty feet. Feet and sheep, the only ones, aren't they? Anyway, sorry, Josh, let's introduce Baberton Day. Let's introduce Bab the day. Oh my he doesn't get enough time of his
Starting point is 00:11:27 kid they just keep taking my day trips. Doesn't get enough time with his kid. I'm gonna you might yeah that's it that he is the king of wraparound care in the countryside old babburd yeah yeah yeah but sunday enjoy people I'm there for to the to tund tunda the to to the to the to to the to the to the the to to the to their to their their tund I tund I tunds tunds to tend. to to to to to to to to to tend I tendon to to to to to to he he he he he he he doesn't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their their their tend he tend he tend he tend he tend he doesn't toy to toy to toy toy to toy toy to toy toy toy toy toy toy toy tip toy toy they just just just just just just they they they tip to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber 1 for students. It saves you on Uber and Uber eats. I'm there for zero dollar delivery fee on cheeseburgers, up to 5% off smoothies and 5% Uber cash back on rides. Just to be clear, I'm there for savings, not whatever you think University is for. Get Uber one for students. A membership to save on Uber and Uber eats. With deals this good, everyone wants to be a student. Join for just $4.99 a month. Savings may vary. Eligibility and member terms apply. Back to school signals a fresh start for students.
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Starting point is 00:12:34 Join us at Building Better Schools, their today. A message from the elementary teachers federation of Ontario. Babertunday, thanks for coming on the show. Thank you for having me Rob, man. Right, for us and their listeners, give us a rundown of your family set out, Baberton Day. What you got? What have you got at home? I've got one son who is about to be five in about two weeks. All right. What are you doing for the fifth birthday?
Starting point is 00:13:00 So there's this, I forgot what it's called, it's that jump in place where it's like all trampolines. Air jump? Air jump, that's it. My wife is organized it. That's how you know I've forgotten. I'm not. You have to watch the little instruction video. You get your socks on and you jump until someone's
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Starting point is 00:14:01 and he'll wait until the trophies presented to me and then he'll just start to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the trophies presented to me and then he'll just start crying. Really? I did that try to play the the Olympics game you know the Mario Sonic Olympics with a running and then I let my daughter win a couple and then I beat her and then she just went mental they're that age they cannot deal with losing and it's but like it's just a scream and cry and they have to in every time. And you just think, oh my God, is my kid gonna be an awful person? Or is it just part of growing up? That is my son.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Honest of God, I do the same thing with him. But yeah, he just wants to be better at me than anything. He's always like trying like trying like trying like trying like trying like trying like trying like trying, like trying, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, to fight me and it's just like dude like I will body slam you like you know I'm saying. They'll say like you know I don't know how big he is but you're a pretty big guy you're not a small guy I think you can take a five-year-old couldn't you? Yeah I could oh listen I would my son especially when he gets on my nerves like I tell you man like punch me up and stamp on me. Really? See my five-year-old is like that but with like knowledge she's like I know, I know this because of school I know more than you. She's obsessed with knowing more than me because she's learned a bit at school now.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I said there was a refraction of the light and she's actually reflection and then she's banging on at me about what reflection is, and I just felt like saying, you're fucking wrong. It's so wrong. It sounds similar, but you're fucking wrong. But she says, I know, because I go to school and I know. And I'm just like, shut up. But they love it, doesn't that? Even at fire? Is he in his first year of school then?
Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah, he's happy because in his mind I'm gonna be a big boy now dad and it's just like yeah kind of but you still struggle with wiping your bum so I don't know about this big boy this big boy stuff you know I mean so yeah and you were in North London and you've moved to Hartford you is that right yeah yeah was that because of the kids was it yeah yeah it was it was we were th we were living thi the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th the th th the th th th th the th th th the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi the the th. th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. the the th. the the the thi the the the thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi the thi the the the thi thi is that right? Yeah, yeah. Was that because of the kids and stuff? Or was it? Yeah, it was, it was. We were living, it's so weird.
Starting point is 00:16:10 So yeah, when I moved from my mom's house in Highgate, once I got married, we moved to Enfield and then we spent like maybe like a year and a half a day and then, you know was fortunate enough to save up enough money. Came to Hartfordshire. So you're in like, you're in the countryside? I am, I am, man. I'm there like, you know, there's a whole bunch of trees outside my yard and sometimes. I didn't know you had the lingo. He's a city boy, but he knows all the terms of country bumping. Trees and that. Yeah, trees and that and couple horses and that and sheep and that.
Starting point is 00:16:48 So yeah, man, it's different, man. It's different up here. How you finding it though? You know, you're ball in London and bread in London. I'm finding it all right. You know what, I'll be real. I actually like it. I prefer it the country life because obviously you've got the walks and there's nice little pretty lakes and there's racism, it's always good, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? No no no no but it is nice it is nice, it's pretty, you know what I'm saying? It's proper pretty. It's nice as well for the kids, loads of space and stuff from to do things where in London it can get a little bit because because, because, because, because, because, because, because, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the kids, loads of space and stuff to do things where in London it can get a little bit because Josh is in a, well by Victoria Park and you've been a, what say a flirting of the idea of moving further up?
Starting point is 00:17:33 Do you know what? I'm less flirting with it than I was. Yeah, it's on a day by day basis. It's good though. It's like a village in the city where I live from. Yeah, but then that's not a village, is it? No, no, it's still the city. Yeah. It's just a village in the city. And how's, how was home schooling and stuff like that? Because you wasn't working as much, I imagine. Did your wife work? Was she at home or what's, how do you split the child care? So she works full-time she has a full-time job and so when you know we were in lockdown it was just me teaching my son which was hard as hell but for some reason apparently my son went up to reading levels. Oh well done I don't know but
Starting point is 00:18:23 this is the thing I don't know what I did. Maybe it's the Nigerian and me that was just like you must learn today like I don't know what I did. Did you actually have an Nigerian accent for teaching and that you were implemented or does it just come out and again? It comes, no real talk it actually comes out every now again like when I'm shouting up my son and I'm I wasn't born in Nigeria so I don't know where this accent comes from and where the language comes from but honestly no joke it actually comes out like sometimes when I'm shouting up my son like for doing something crazy like my mom like yoriborab would come out that's my mom's mother tongue and I remember the first time that I the hell did I learn that because I don't speak the language yeah
Starting point is 00:19:08 yeah so what what came out what what bubbled up so I said kill a shed boy basically that means what's wrong with this boy but and and when it happened I just froze and I was just like hey what what, what the hell? Really? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, would your mom have said that to you when you were a kid then, do you reckon it's just sort of, into your memory? Hell yeah, I was troublesome and this explains my son, you know, he's just, he's exactly like me. He looks like me, he behaves like me, he mom strict then would you say? Hell yeah, every Nigerian mom is strict. Every Nigerian mom is strict, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:49 I think she was more strict with me out of me and my sister because I was just trouble. I was cheeky, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, always trying to like mess around. What was the worst trouble you got into? Oh, this one's really's really's really's I stole a girl's phone in school, yeah, yeah. And my mom beat the living daylights out of me, like, you know what I mean? This is back in the day, this is back in the day, like, during child line, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:15 Well, yeah, well, that poor girl, I wouldn't have a fucking phone to ring it, mate, you nicked it. Does she think you're a sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort, the sort, the sort, the sort, the sort, the, the the the the the the the the the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the l a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the living, the living, the the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the the the the the the living, the the the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the living, the at you there? Do you see think you're not strict enough? Does she think you're a bit sort of a soft British dad? No, she actually is always telling me leave him alone just let him do what he's doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that upsets me so much. I'm just like you tore me a new asshole like you really went to town like but when it comes to my son all of a sudden no one's allowed to touch him he can do no wrong and I'm just like you've watched him trash your whole house since he's got here and at the minute I go okay like Judah just relax now it's leave him alone it's just like what
Starting point is 00:20:59 really? Yeah yeah yeah she loves my son she obviously but yeah she loves her grandson. Is that her only grandchild? Yeah, at the moment, yeah. Yeah, the first one, yeah. Just moving out of London, is that damaged babysitting opportunities with, hell no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, my son, yeah, he's, he gets treated like a prince. Not only does my mom always offers to take care of him, but obviously he's mother-in-law, my mother-in-law, and then his aunties are always trying to take him from us, and it upsets me, oh my gosh, it gets on my nurse. Sometimes I'll come home and I'm just like, where's Judah? Oh, this one took him and it's just like, oh my gosh, can I just see my son for five seconds like. Really? Yeah, yeah. So you've got one sister is that right? I got one sister yeah. And you're how many siblings is your wife got? Oh God she, well she's got two brothers but then she's got like a million cousins. Oh and they're all like family aren't
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Starting point is 00:23:07 How did you, how did you find it when he was little when there's an oobol and stuff like that? Was it, did he sleep well or was he a bit of a nightmare? No, he slept well. He was good. He was good. Josh is a bad sleeping child at the moment. That's a heartbreaking answer. Sorry, bro. The answer is, the answer is you just get a good sleeper or you don't and then that's just your hand. You're just lucky you're not. Yeah, that's the hand up and doubt for the next 18 years.
Starting point is 00:23:35 One of my mates, Kane Brown, he's a comic as well. He just told. It's just like forget about sleep. Like you will never get a good night sleep forever. And I was just like, damn. Well, it's true. It is true. Because then when they get older, you don't sleep because you're worrying because they're not in the house. Oh, I'd take that, Rob. I'd happily lie there. I'd happily lie there. I'd happily I'd happily the thly lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie their their their th th th th th th th th th thly lie lie lie lie lie lie lie thy l thy l thi thi lie lie lie lie lie lie l thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi l thi l thi l' thi l' thi thly lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're th th th thy lie thy lie thi the their their their their their they I do it, mate. At least you can watch a film while you're worrying. At least I'm not getting back problems walking him around the bloody room all the time. Well, my wife kind of dealt with that side of things, to be honest. I kind of, I did sleep through the crying,
Starting point is 00:24:18 sometimes when he would wake up. Because he wasn't that bad. Obviously the odd time here and there was just like, yeah, this child ain't going to sleep. But what annoys me now is that up until today he still jumps in our bed halfway through the night. And really, oh it annoys the life out of me because you get so uncomfortable, then I'll wake up, I'll be like, why is my neck hurting and I'll turn around and my son's just there snoring in my face and it's just like oh and I can't move by that time it's just like I'm too tired so he's just gonna stay and they get they start getting big at five they're like long aren't they? That's a big person to share a bad with do you mean they're like long arms and just spread grown adult in my bed. It's a grown child, man. He's a big child.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Have you tried to do anything to get him back in his bed? Or are you just going to hope he grows out of it? Have you got a plan? No, I just hope he grows out of it. Because I tell him all the time. I tell him, look, you know, you have to stay in, he. back in my bed. It just is what it is, isn't it? Oh my. And does he just walk in and just get in? Yeah, he walks in, gets it. My son has this annoying habit, yeah. He likes to touch my armpit. I don't know why, and I don't know where this comes from. And this is true. So what he will do sometimes
Starting point is 00:25:39 is more to, if he's not just jumping in the bed and this getting in between me and my wife sometimes I'll wake up to him scratching my armpits it's the most random thing oh my god that's so weird no honest to God this is so weird and I'm like me and my wife we googled it we were just like what is this obsession with him holding people's armpits what could I ask what you the exact terminology you're googling with Iris? I put, I put, child's obsession with armpits. Oh my God, what a search. I bet you were so worried, waiting for it to load up.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And apparently it's, it's a rare thing. It's not uncommon, but it's rare. And I'm just like, why would it be my son that has to be the rare one? But yeah, apparently, yeah, a few children do this. Plus one of my mates, his son does it as well. So what does he just touch the hair under your armpit? He will just hold it. He'll just hold it.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And I think he, that's his comfort thing. You know, like some children have like blankets. His is holding. It's your arm tapet. And that's true, honest to God, that's what he does. And would he hold a stranger's armpit? It depends how comfortable he gets. Like he did it'sto my mate Nelson and he just did it so he did it so smoothly to the point where my mate turned around and was just
Starting point is 00:27:08 like oh snap like he's holding my arm and I couldn't listen I was on the floor because my son just like literally just sneaked his hand up there and it was he was there for like five minutes and then that's when my friend realized like what the hell is this sensation in my arm and then just turned and saw my son you know sucking his tongue and just enjoying armpit as he does yeah yeah yeah that's what he does and so have you spoken to him about it yes yes yes and I asked him why is it? Like, why do you like holding people's armpits? And it's just like, his excuses, armpits is for big boys. And I'm still trying to wrap my head around this one. He said, well, he probably doesn't know, does it? It's just like an impulsive thing. And then I suppose if you just say it's a big boys, theybys, it, thi. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. their, their, their, their, their, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the aware that it might be something that like a smaller kid will do. Yeah. So if they just say it's a big boys or big
Starting point is 00:28:06 girls it sort of okay is it then it? Yeah what's even stranger? I have to ask one of the teachers like like has he done this? Oh gosh. They just looked at me like what the hell was just like, nothing, nothing, don't worry about it. Don't worry. But that's probably better than them going, yes he has. It's just something he does at home. Yeah, I'm glad to know he's not doing it to like any other teachers or anyone at school. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 00:28:40 He'll grow out of it. the things you'll be th you th you th he's getting married. Yeah I can't wait until I'm able to do. Has he got any interest in his own armpits? No. I can't believe I'm still I can't believe I've still got questions on them. No honest to got everybody does and like only until they come around him and then they like see how he is with the thus thu th th th th th th th th thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to hea hea to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their their. their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to to to to to to to to to it to them, then they're just like, oh snap, so he really does have this weird obsession. I don't know where it's come from. Well, actually, I do think it came from him breastfeeding, because you know, children, they'll like, you know, they'll almost like rub the breast, like, as they're breastfeeding at the same time. I think it came from that. So, it's like a comfort thing to him because when I'm looking at his face when he's when he's like holding my armpit it's like he's in total
Starting point is 00:29:29 bliss. Oh bless. That's so cute. He's proper calm and so I'm thinking has it come from that because obviously he was obsessed with breastfeeding and most children are so the day that my wife told him she was just like you know oh it's all finished now there's that that's that's like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like that? that? that? that? that? that? that he that he that he that he that he that he that's like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like that? that? that's like like like like like, like, like like, like like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like like like like like like like like like like like like, like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, he he he's like, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, that, that, that, that, that, that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like children are. So the day that my wife told him, she was just like, you know, it's all finished now, there's no more, like he looked distraught. And then this is where the armpit thing picked up from. So I'm thinking it must have come from that. Oh, well, at least you'll grow out of it, if he gets comfort from it, and he's not doing it, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you it you know in the middle of maths. Does he like growing up in the countryside then? Yeah he loves it because there's so much to do like we go to the farms all the time and even sometimes there's like little fields
Starting point is 00:30:18 that you can go to and you know you'll end up seeing like chickens or pigs and just in the random field. Yeah, yeah, it's just dope, man. And your inlaws in that area, are they in North London as well? No, they're still in London. Yeah, they're in North London. So it's a bit of a trek out. So did you think moving out would mean you'd get a bit more space and time to itself, but the family the family still the family the family the family the family still the family still the family still the family still the family still the family still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still the family still the family still the family still the family still to to to to the family still to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the family. the family. the family the family the family the family the family the family the family the family the family the family the family the family the family the family the family the family the family still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still the family still the family still. the the family still. the kid. A little bit, a little bit. Would you try to escape from the busy family? Is that what the fan was? That was part of it but mainly it was getting on the
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Starting point is 00:31:47 I'm like, yeah, cool, that's fine, you know, and I'll go. But I don't really chat too much. I just, I've got things to do. So once I pick up my son, yeah, I'm gone, man. You I'm gone man, I'm not really trying to... You're not a school gate gossip, are you in and out at the school gates? Have you got his friends coming for the birthday party then? At the... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a few of them. Then you can have to look after them.
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Starting point is 00:32:54 Have you been a chance to go on holiday with your kid yet really because of lockdown and stuff. Have you been away much? You got plans to go away? Because it's totally different experience in it when you've got a kid, holidays? Yeah, no, no, we have actually taken him on holiday. This was before the lockdown my brother-in-law got married and we went to Cyprus and yeah my son was he came along the whole family, Jesus Christ and yeah yeah it was it was dope we had a good time my son's great grandma was there so she was always just like bring me all my grandchildren my great grandchildren let me sit with them and you know that's the answer in it yeah man holidays with family yeah
Starting point is 00:33:40 man we got lit me and my wife. It was good times bro trust me. With the moving out of London have you got mates in London that have got kids and like yeah do their kids have a different upbringing to yours do you think like did like when they meet up is you have you got a country bumpkin on your hands? Yeah yeah I do my son is privileged as hell you what I mean? Because what middle class now? Only my friend was the one that broke it down to me. It's just like, you're middle class now. I'm just like, no, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:34:12 It's like, bro, you're a homeowner, you've got nice living and nice house and you know, you got trees, all this stuff. These trees are doing a lot of the heavy lifting aren't they? Yeah and so like when I go to visit my mates in London obviously they've got youths and stuff they got children they live in like flats and things like that and that's not me you know bragging but it is different like I do see the difference between like my life and their life they're very much still kind of living the type of lifestyle I I was surrounded by when I lived th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin I th in I thin th in thin thin th in thin thin thin' thin' thin' th in th in th in thaten thin thin they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi thi thi thi're very much still kind of living the type of lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I was surrounded by when I lived in Tottenham, you know, so yeah, it's very street influenced and all of that kind of stuff, but yeah, none of that around him, man. It's, you know, sometimes you're a bit jealous of your kid or like, you know, you've stopped yourself from being like, oh, you don't know how lucky you are and that kind of stuff because his, you know, upbringing is so different to yours? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact, mine, I'm happy for him that he is living a totally different life than I did because, you know, he's not surrounded by the sound of gunshots and people getting stabbed left right. Unless there's hunting going on, of course.
Starting point is 00:35:26 People getting stabbed left right and so I'm glad that he doesn't have to grow up, you know, with that kind of trauma. You know, surrounding him. I'm happy. But it's, yeah, yeah, he's privileged. He asked me for the Wi-Fi password the other day and that's this, that let me know. Okay, I'm definitely middle class. My four-year-old child asked me for the Wi-Fi code. I'm just like, like a little, like a little Zuckerberg this kid. I can't believe he's playing games at the forum getting the, I can't even get me a, I can't put a Wi-Fi password him correctly first time. He's. He's. He's. Hethese nonsense, all these, what's it called, oddbods and, and Vlad and Nicky, all this, you know, weird kiddy stuff. How much iPad time do you let him have? An hour, yeah, an hour, because he- An hour, an hour a day?
Starting point is 00:36:17 Yeah, an hour a day? Yeah. No, this is, so, afternoon. Afternoon, normally when he comes back from school, we'll let him go on the iPad for a bit, just to wind down and then afterwards activities, set up some activities and then, you know, get him active again. But yeah, he just gets an hour on that because, yeah, once we bought that, we noticed such a difference, like, yeah, this boy is getting a bit lazy, you know, because he could just go through hours of just either playing games or hours of just watching the iPad so we had to monetize. What about some holidays though? Do the rules go out the window a bit? Yeah we do kind of let him have a little bit more but to be honest because we set up so much activities for him he kind of that still gets left behind because he'll
Starting point is 00:37:02 go and see his cousins or he'll be out in the garden on the trampoline and you know water games will be you know playing water pistols with each other and all of that kind of stuff or his mud kitchen and things just this little things like that so yeah time kind of goes to the point where it's just like you don't really need the um unless you force the self-isolate and then the old i the the the the old iPad the old iPad the old iPad the old iPad the old iPad the old iPad the the old iPad the the old iPad the old iPad the old iPad the force to self-isolate and then the old iPad comes out and saves everyone's life. When he goes to my sisters, my sister's got him playing chess. He's terrible at it. But the fact, yeah, no, no joke. She's actually trying to teach him how to play chess and I'm just like, I've watched him do it and obviously yeah, he is terrible. He moves everything. So does he know where all the bits move and stuff? No, he doesn't know none of that, but she will guide him through it.
Starting point is 00:37:49 So she'll be like, no, you can't move that there, you can move that here. So he is rubbish. Obviously, he's four. But the fact that she's even got him to even be calm, to and he's proper patient, he'll listen to her and you know he'll play it to the best of his ability. But I couldn't believe that when she was just like, yeah, should we play chess? I'm just like, he ain't gonna play chess. Next minute my man started moving the pieces. I was just like, what the hell? What's your plan for the summer holidays and if? Because your wife's working full-time and you're, you know, you're mad busy filming and
Starting point is 00:38:26 stuff. He's off for like six weeks. So do you book him into summer camps or any of your sport camps or is he just often you just share him around between you and your wife and you know, child care stuff? No, no, no. So my wife, now that she's off of work, she's taking like the whole summer holiday off, plus some extra dates like unpaid and stuff like that. She's got everything set up for him. Yesterday they went Drayton Manor and-
Starting point is 00:38:54 Oh, so they've got loads of stuff planned out all summer. She sounds very organized your wife. She is. I give it up to her. But she proper likes it. Because I can't, for me, if I take him to, I don't know, like the water park, you know, down the road, after 20 minutes, I'm just like, y'all dearest child, I'm always chasing him, trying to like, you know, stop him from running away or, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:20 just running way too far, and it's just like, you know, she's better at dealing with him in that respect. So when it comes to like all the activities, she's organized everything. Plus she's, you know, obviously I'm doing loads of stuff, but the fact that she's, she likes it is amazing to me. You know what I mean? It sounds like, it sounds like he's like loads of energy. He has. But because this is my first child, I've never had to like deal with like younger cousins or anything. So I don't know nothing about, you know, child wearing. So when my son, when I saw my son like
Starting point is 00:39:58 I'm like, you know, crazy in terms of his energy, I'm panicking like, what the hell? You know, what's fun with this child? But no, she's like raised all her nieces and nephews, you know, so yeah, she's used to this. Like, she's very calm with him, very, very calm. I find sometimes when I, like, were you saying when you started saying the things your mom used to say to you even though you don't really speak the language. I felt they were winding me up the other day and I turned to the little, I'm not having it, Lou, they're fucking mugging me off. They're fucking mugging me off.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Where's that? They're part of them through Rob. They're not mugging their off., look I ain't having it, they're fucking mugging me off. What are they done? I can't remember, but it was just one of the work things that sent, I don't know if I mentioned it before that sent me mad and I actually I slammed my fist on the table like a judge in a courtroom drama was when you know when they could have some they could have their boys had this worms it's when they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their. they their. they're they're they're their. I. I. I. I. I was. I was. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t t t t t t t t th. I'm. they. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm this worms, it's sort of like, we don't know if they did have worms or not, but some, they're really itchy bums and basically you have to have this banana-flavored medicine that everyone in the family has and you have it, once and then in and a week's time and basically if you do have worms it gets rid of it, but they say if you're suspected of worms, just have it, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, but, but, but, but, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, so, and, so, so, so, to, so, to, so, to, so, so, so, so, so, so, to, so, so, and, so, so, and, so, and, so, and, and, and, and to have it because it might be in you or whatever so the five-year-old wasn't was the one we thought had it and we gave this thing to drink this banana syrup stuff and she she spat out onto the table and it was literally the only one that was at the
Starting point is 00:41:35 chemist and the chemist was shut now because it was Easter and I just saw it being sped out of her mouth and I just slammed off this down. I went, no! I was so stressed. It was horrible. We should mention your podcast as well. What's your podcast? You're promoting? Yes. It's called Mission Imagination and it's with Puffing Books. It's about what? It's four children and we basically dive into,
Starting point is 00:42:06 you know, mythical worlds created by the authors and yeah, it's a really good podcast. And what we're doing, we're trying to champion authors from diverse backgrounds. And so, you know, a lot of people from the Bain community, we're just trying to champion them, get their voices out there, get their books out there. And yeah, I'm working with two brilliant kids, Ben and Skyler Ray, and it's really good. And so he's aimed at kids to listen to a podcast for kids about these amazing books basically. Yeah, amazing books and then we just create a mythical world, the magical world that we kind of like explore and yeah, we just make it up as we go along............. And, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their world that we kind of like explore and yeah we just make it up as we go along and it's amazing and how old are the kids you're working with they are a little bit older than my son we've got six and seven so what's it
Starting point is 00:42:54 like working with children though doing a podcast it is good it is good it is good it is good it is good it is good it is good it is, it is good. They are excellent, I have to say, they are excellent. But yeah, children are very talkative. They've got a word in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, children. Yeah, I understand why they say don't work with children or animals because, you know, children... Yeah Yeah, well the animals podcast would be very weak. I know. You're doing it, you've got kids and a puffing. It's a double whammy.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's, it's, this is a new one for me. But no, I furily enjoy it and it is good. It's fun. What age is it aimed at? So you're looking from like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. to, to, th. th. th. to, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, th. thi. thi. to, to, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm, what age kids? So you're looking from like, you know, seven downwards. Yeah, like four to seven, I'd say. Four to seven, oh brilliant, oh that's good. Yeah, because sometimes if they can't wind down putting something on from to listen to, we've got those Tony boxes
Starting point is 00:43:54 and you buy like little, yeah, yeah, and they're really short. You know, my podcast is really, really short. It's like 15 to 20 minutes. And so, yeah, it's nice, man. If you just pop that on, you know, before bed, it's nice for them just to kind of like get their imagination going. Would you ever consider doing your own children's book? Yes. But as I've read a lot of children's books, I'm just like, you know what, I don't have no damn ideas, man.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I'll be real, like I've always wanted to like do a child's book, but the more I look into them, I'm just like, what can I do mine on? I'm just like, bro, I can't, there's nothing I can do. Like, maybe Judah and the magical armpit, Maybe I'll do something like that. You know what I'm surprised about how the armpit, armpit hug as there are out there. Yeah, you know what? It could be a massive, massive market to aim it. That is actually a good, maybe it might be a good idea. Does it? Does he listen to the podcast you do? Yeah, sent back. Does he like it? Yeah, yeah, he loves it. My son, listen, my son, he goes to parties, when he goes to like my friend's parties, like, he will tell them, oh my dad's on TV and then he'll like tell them to go on, like, catch up,
Starting point is 00:45:20 and he'll be like, like, goggle box. He's so technology friendly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did that at my friend's party. He was proper just like, look, there's my dad and show them gogglebox. It was just like, yeah, that's daddy. But then he also loves Moe. He loves moe. So obviously, mass singer,
Starting point is 00:45:36 mask dancer. and he's just like, can you call Mo? I'm just like, no, I don't, there's no reason. It's live, yeah. I'm like, there's no reason for me to call Mo right now. And he's working, you know, this was filmed three months ago. But he made me call him one day, and yeah, he's just on the phone talking to Moan. I'm just like, I'm your dad, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, nothing for you, brother. Does he watch on Gogglebox there? It's a bit young for a five-year-old,
Starting point is 00:46:08 but I suppose if you don't sound anything too rude. Well, he's seen me on it, but we don't let him watch it because obviously the swearing and stuff like that. But he knows that that's, you know, what I've done. My son's got this weird thing like with with younger, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th, th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's a to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. doesn't really like to engage with him. He just thinks he's bigger. Oh, I'm a big boy. Like he, yeah. If you call him a baby, he will lose it. He will lose his nuts. Really? I'm not a baby. I'm a big boy. It's just like, even toddlidl. I was just like, oh, you know, you're still a toddler. He's like, no, I'm thi I'm a th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm a thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th you're thi. thi. thi. th you're th you're th you th you th you th you th you th you th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. If you thi. thi. thi. thi. I mean? So yeah, just leave them to it. I'm basically in awe of how good he is at technology. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Do this interview you covered him playing Nintendo Switch. Four on demand. So that you could bring up a goggle box. There was another one, the Wi-Fi password. Place chess. Absolutely full of analog knowledge. Yeah, but I better be playing that on the the the thing the thi thi on thi on thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, just in tho, just, just, I tho, I tho, I tho, I th. I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I'm basically, I'm basically, I'm basically, I'm th. I'm basically, I'm tho, I'm basically tho, I'm just tho, I'm just thi, I'm just thi, I'm just that. I'm just thattooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. A bit of analog knowledge. Yeah, but I better be playing that online. Before you know it, we play an online chess. Our words with friends is all over it. Well I will say, I will say like, especially with my wife's side of the
Starting point is 00:47:14 family, they're all brainiacs, man. They've got like random facts and stuff like the eldest cousin, he's just turning 18. That guy, he's like Cairo, he is mad smart, mad smart. So I know he'd never, my son never got any of his like, you know, intelligence from me. I felt everything. It's all from the other side. Yeah, it's from my wife's side, definitely.
Starting point is 00:47:42 We always asked the same question, Baberton Day. It's called Crosby's Law. If there's anything th th th th th the th th th the there's there's there's th th th th th th the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thio- thiole, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, hei, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, hei, hei, hei, hei, hei, hei, hei, hei, hei, hei, he's like, he's like, he's th. Hea, he's th. Hea, he's th. He's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, thi, like, like, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi. thi. thi, thi, th side, definitely. We always ask the same question, Baberton Day. It's called Crosby's Law. If there's anything that your partner does, parenting-wise, that annoys you a bit, but you don't really bring it up because you don't have a falling out, so is there something your wife does that annoys you a little bit with parenting? Or is she an absolute angel? and sound like she does much wrong. No, she, so it's not that, this thing's got nothing to do with parenting,
Starting point is 00:48:08 but basically she likes to hype him up and sing. So she'll sing like, but she'll sing in a very like, you know, annoying way, like she knows she's being annoying. And it hipes him up, and the more he gets hype, the more destructive he gets. And nowthat winds me up so much because it's just like, you know if you do this, he is not going to stop. So don't start something that you're not going to be able to control. But she just lets him get as hype as hell. And then he literally turns into the Tasmanian devil and just tears this whole place apart
Starting point is 00:48:47 and then I've got to put on the dad voice to stop him you know what I'm saying? So you're the boring one, the fun police? I am yeah he could yeah so apparently according to my son I'm always grumpy according to him and I'm just like I'm a comedian like you know what I'm saying? So I can't tha. I'm th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu tho- I'm thu to to to to to to to to to to to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thu-I thu-I the I'm the tho-hea' tho-hea' tho-I, you know what I'm saying? So I can afford to be grumpy at this time. Plus, you've toured this. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I can be fun, but if you pay for a ticket, I will be fun. Yeah, exactly. 90 minutes.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah she gets hype with it like she will really sing it in an annoying way like she won't take it seriously but she'll sing an annoying way that hipes him up and it's just like stop yeah gospel that the thoats thi their gospel that thii. Yeah like when it's proper gospel gospeal it yeah like the American Pentecostal gospel that kind that kind kind that that that th th is is is is is is like like like like like the gospel the the th I I I I I I I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th yeah like the American Pentecostal gospel that kind of yeah she hipes him up so much bro it's so annoying. So with it with a child that's got his kind of level of energy you constantly trying to just keep him in a kind of in a chilled kind of chilled out way. I mean, when necessary, when it's just like, you know, bedtime, it's just like you have no business being this hype because you are about to sleep, you know what I'm saying? So I'm not trying to have you in bed shaking from fun,
Starting point is 00:50:18 all this fun that you're having, so let's wind it down a bit. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's calm it down, let's wind it down a bit. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's calm it down. Let's take it down. You know, but no, when it's like afternoon times, bro, lose your mind. Have fun, have all the fun that you want, man. You're a child, like, I know what that's like. Um, you've got any more questions, Josh? Sorry, sorry, just got a weird text from Rose. She just texts, yeah. Oh God, I've got to go down and sort out a parenting situation.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Oh look. Parenting situation is occurred. I'll be honest, I've lost my head now. I don't know where I am with the whole thing. That is the perfect way in a way to end this. All of our interviews should end with me just going, oh fuck. Josh in the complete state of panic. You don't even make sense. I've got to a parenting situation.
Starting point is 00:51:08 All right, Ned. We're going to go with Babertunday because Josh was lost his head. Thanks, I've gone. It's gone. It's all good. It's all good. Cheers, mate. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Thank you. Everything's okay. Babatunday Aleshi. Oh, is it Alessie or Alishi? Oh, no, Josh. I've done names wrong. I got thrown by the accents. No one's listening. There's accents on both ease. We both know that I didn't learn the accents on the ease. No, and I'm so happy with Baba Tunda. I fucking that the accents have thrown. No one's listening by this point, Rob. No one's listening to the podcast, buy our out. I would love to know how many people stick around for the out, I wouldn't love to know, don't get in tou. But, um, no, I think people do stick around for it or if they listen to it by accident. An armpit, hold you. I mean, yeah, you could stand like with your hands on your armpits. That's kind of, I can see that working as a thing. But do get in touch if you've got any like unusual, shall we say, ways that your children comfort themselves.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yes, comforters. Unusual comforters. The armpit. How do you get in touch? Just scream and someone the the th, and someone th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, th, thi, the, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. So, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th... So, th. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi, thi. So, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tell us. Yeah, that's fine. Just scream it from your front door. Like the bit between the back of the knee and your thigh, my kid puts their foot there. And then someone will hear it and then it'll just trickle down. So that's how we get in a correspondence. No, there's probably, you know, emails. This is how to get in touch. Email us, hello at lockdownparentin.co.uk. Thanks for listening guys and we'll be back with some more podcasts next week to a week. Why? because we are efficient and productive, aren't we, Josh? Yes. And also, when we started this, we had less work than we do now.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah, I really could just do it. And now we've made a rod for our own back. Huge rod, huge rod for our back. I'll see you next Tuesday. At the start, we used to do two episodes a week. Pure madness. Two interviews a week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Absolutely burning through the cele. I know. A total waste of time. Right, see you next week. Bye.

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