Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S04 EP14: Tom Davis

Episode Date: March 11, 2022

S04 EP14: Tom Davis Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the actor and comedian - Tom Davis. And yes you heard it right, we are very excited to announce even more Parenting Hell Live shows!! On top two the already announced Manchester Arena (Friday 14th April 2023) and London 02 (Friday 21st April 2023) - tickets are now on general sale but going fast!! We're also doing the following shows;19th April 2023 - Nottingham20th April 2023 - Cardiff 23rd April 20223 - Wembley Tickets are available to the general public today (Friday 4th March) at 10amTo sign up to the mailing list if you haven't already just cut and paste this into your browser:parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com Thanks - Rob and Josh xxxIf you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and member terms apply. Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willickham. Welcome to Parent in Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what is really like to be a parent which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe.

Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hill with... Sally, can you say Josh Whitakum? Josh Gickin. And Bob Beckett. We'll take it. We'll take it. We'll take it.

Wow. It sounds like a big media buyer. We'll take it. You're like a light. Oh, you're really on that mic. It sounds sexy. Go on Josh, give it to me. Sorry. You sound s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to say tho. to say tho. to say to say to say tho. to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to to to. too. to. too. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to th. th. th. th. to th. to th. th. to to tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. too. tho. too. tho. too. too. too. too. too. too. too mic. It sounds so sexy. Go on Josh, give it to me. Sorry.

You sound sexy. Don't apologize. Great work on the show, myself and wife are crazy big fans. It was suggested that there were not many Northerners listening. So here is proof of me and my son is called Sammy Digweed. Sammy Digweed! Sammy digweed! It's Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, Sammywee. It's sons called Sammy. You can't laugh at a kid's name. It's the Sammy's fine, it's the Digweed's the problem.

Yeah, I think he's aware of it, because he wouldn't have put there, not many Norse's is listening. So here's proof of me and my son Sammy Digweed, practicing your names last July when he was two. Sammy Digweed. We have lots of Northerners, nor nor nor don't have many Northerners submitting their small businesses. Yes, right.

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I was sure I saw someone walk past my window to see if they were scaffolding. So what was it? I don't know. Ghost. So he didn't record it? No, he didn't record it so we'll never know. So the full floor, so what's how high is that 50 feet? Yeah, there's no white, look? Is anyone who's 50 foot tall? Yeah, in the Manchester area. I saw a bit of your bumme? I saw a bit bit bit bit bit bit bit bit bit bit bit bit bit th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th. th. th. he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He didn't th. He didn't th. No. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. he he he he th. th bottom of your back. You know when the shirt's got a bit small from the watch? And it's just sort of, it's fine, and but when you bend over, you'd be a bit of. You might say it's the washroble, have I been, have I been pushing so much that my shoulders have got big? You got a massive rockard pecks and shoulders. Yeah, I've got a sleep thing to talk about. Go on.

So a few nights ago my daughter woke up having a nightmare 2 a.m. We got her, she's slept in our bed then. And I'll be honest, I liked it Rob. You do, you know, it's a classic thing we talk about. All these don't let them do yeah but they're going to be older someday so I don't mind I like having the three in the bed it's nice. Well we go into the airbed I quite like getting to the bed with them if they're a bit upset or unwell or stuff. Oh she's got a shit mattress so I don't get in. Oh really? We got her a bad mattress originally and she doesn't realize how bad the thrace was we had at about that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that they had had had had at at at th at th at th at th at th at th at th at that that is had at that is had at that that. I had at thate. thate that. thate. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. the. It's is the. the. I's the. thr. thr. theateate. theateats. theats. theats. theats. theats. the. I's thrown. I's amazing that we didn't realize how bad our old mattress was we had about 8, 10 years and it's so nice but when I get on their bed I'm like

this is literally the cheapest mattress we could find off like, is this bad? Should I be getting my kid a better mattress? She doesn't know she doesn't realize that she could be sleeping on a good mattress. But then I think would kept on waking up in the night, but it's because she has loads of lights on when she goes to bed. She has the main light off, but then three lamps on. It's really bright in her room. So what I've been doing is when she's asleep in the room, when I've been turning off, when I'm turning off,

the lamps, but I think she's been waking she's to she's to she's to she's to she off so she gets used to see from the darb. I'm like, well she'll get used to that eventually. Yeah, don't rush it. So as she got into the bed review and it was nice. And then the next night, the same thing happened again and I went, oh, this is right. This is a worry. This is a worry. before you can't suddenly go there's a new rule in town can you? So what what reason was she allowed in the night before? Nightmare both nights. Rose said do you think she's been picking up on what's going on in the Ukraine? I was like

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No, exactly. I'm glad of that. She's not aware of the breakdown of the Soviet Union and what it led to in the late 80s. Exactly. Because I think that, am I more anxious now about all this bad news because it's really bad news, or were things like this happening when we were younger in like Iraq and then like the Cold War stuff or, you know, the other, there always seemed that you know, there was like wars in Bosnia and Croatia and there was lots of stuff happening. I know this is really bad, but like, or is it just now because I've got kids and I've

got responsibilities and I'm older and I'm more aware of it. When I was 20, I wouldn't give a shit about anything. I think we got lucky that there was nothing that was as affecting as this. Like my sister who's older than me, I remember her saying that she used to genuinely go to sleep in the 80s, worrying about being blown up by a nuclear bomb. Oh really? Yeah. So if you were a kid in the 80s, in Darmourmore, which, in there, in there, in Cormour, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in corma, in corma, which, th, I, I, I was, I was, I was a th, I was a th, I was a th, I was a th, I was a th, I was a th, I was a th. I was a th. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I, I. I. I. I. I, I. I, I. I. I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'ma, in, in, in, in th, in th. I'm tha, tha. tha. tha. tha. tha.a.a. tha.a. tha. th th th th th th th th th't a target. I don't think it would be the first point of attack. No, but Plymouth's a naval base, isn't it? So Plymouth might be one of the main target. Plymouth was bombed to fuck during the war. Oh was it? Yeah, it's one of those cities that was totally flattened during the war. It's a city. You are basically, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you are, you, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are basically, you are, you are basically, you are basically, you are basically, you're basically, you're basically, you're basically, you're basically, you're basically, you're basically, you're basically, basically, basically, you're basically a racist, you're basically a racist, you're basically a racist, you're basically a racist, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. racist that's what you are you're basically. Rob, it's the biggest city in the world to never have had a top division football team. It's the biggest city in Devon, sorry.

Yeah, a quarter of a million big ones, people. Sorry. Yeah, no, in Europe, biggest city in Wembley for a Titan Fury fight. Yeah, that's more or less a city. A quarter of a million, mate. Okay, plimaph is a city. Sure. Yeah. If you're saying that, I'll believe you. So is Exeter? Is it? Yeah. Exeter? Exeter is the name of the football club? It just looks a bit too chilled down there to be a city. Where did you think the last city was? Bristol?

It's sort of, this is sort of towns from Bristol onwards, isn't it? But there's no sort of office buildings, it's just sort of like... Do you know there's no, there's no motorway beyond Exeter, there's the A-38, which is the main road through Devon and Cornwall. But Exeter doesn't look like a city, it just looks like a few hours. It's got a cathedral. I know, but no one's doing the stock exchange in there, are they? Stock Exchange? I just, I imagine there should be an office block in a city.

There is an office block in Exeter. Is there? I don't be city, you know a fence Plymouth. Jesus. Should we bring on our guest, Rob? I think we've run out of steam. Okay, yeah, which is ironically how Plymouth is powered. I won't sell a ticket in Plymoth again, will I? Oh, the old pavilions, the old faithful Plymouth pavilions. Yeah, I don Yeah, they're probably too busy doing deals. They were all wearing office suits and had a Bluetooth scene when I did Plymouth last time, getting some deals done.

This is an amazing episode, by the way. This is Tom Davis, very funny man. Brilliant in the new thing, the curse, their new show, he's won bafters as and he does a great podcast. Romesh Ranganathen and and also more interesting for this podcast Tom's had a baby recently but with a surrogate which we talk about really funny episode and also really interesting and Tom is a absolutely top bloke lovely man enjoy the episode Hello Tom Davis there's the intro straight I was gonna do it bigger but it's fine you go go big, you go big. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, it's Tom Davis. Thank you very much for joining us. It's too much and it's too official.

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Right, Rob, I mean, last leg America, are you not aware of that? That's a huge hit. Is it? No, no, of course not. No. a baby can you talk us through? What one child you've got haven't you? One little baby? Yeah, yeah, a daughter, yeah, so she's 10 weeks. Ten weeks. It's incredible. Yeah. It's been a like, yeah, a long journey to get it actually because it's we went through like a surrogate. Oh did you? I didn't know this? this is an incredible story.

So yeah, like we've been trying for about seven years off and on, like, and nothing really happening and that's sort of in itself quite, you know, for anyone struggling, because it's quite a thing that, isn't it? Yeah. And then my mrs went for some like checks and had some bits done and one of the things I do is I write right put die through your Philopian tubes. Yeah, some of the die got Basically stuck stuck in a blockage and like she got just really really ill it went toxic Yeah, so she was then this is a real great way to start. I'm glad we did all the bit at a top I'll talk about another canceled show in a minute

It's quite a morose chapel Tom Davis, isn't he? Yeah, that was actually the reviews of the last leg, New Zealand, it went tops there. And yeah, so she basically, yeah, she got pretty ill in it, sort of, she was in hospital over Christmas for about two weeks. Shit, when was this? A couple of years ago? So it was two years ago from like Christmas just gone, and we got told at that point we wouldn't be able to, like she wouldn't be able to conceive we couldn't have kids. Oh, my, I'm so sorry.

Because of that? Because, yeah, yeah, that was sort of the final, final now. So from there though, one of the nurses, while she was in hospital. We just got on really well with her here off with and she reached out like about for four months after that and said look I've always thought of being a surrogate and I've always thought of being a surrogate and I've always thought that you guys would be up for it. I don't know. You know if you to be up to the try and sort of to be to be in the try and to know quite a lot and her and a family and we started so Christmas a year ago we started on the journey on Christmas Day she started like go Catherine went for IVF and we you know did the embryos and yeah the surrogate went on the same thing and yeah like so Grace

was born on the 14th of December this year so it's like every Christmas like a milestone but but yeah it was an incredible journey from not ever thinking you're going to have yeah and it's all we really from you know we're both quite family orientated and we all we really want was kids so we're looking at adoption we're looking at stuff like but yeah it's like it's like a miracle thing of like you know you know that you so you know you sort of you know that sort of you know that sort of like that sort village to raise a child. It's like the amount of different levels of like, you know, from NHS who are incredible to sort of, you know, the surrogate to... That nurse, that's, so she just kind of met you. We've gotten really well and she heard my wife here off and she reached out and she's just like, you know, like, you know, so this basically happened and this basically happened and thi. This is all, this this this, this, this, this, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, you, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, theirto the pandemic. So like you both, you know, I'm used to being out working and all of a sudden you've got this news that hits you, you're festering that news and you can't

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So what, she kind of needs to be signed over to you, like, like a house, kind of second-lane car. Well, that was in the car game. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got moving that outside the hospital. We're just waiting for the keys. Have you got a tax book? the to, have a to, have a to, have a to, have, have, have, have, the the the t, the t, t, to, the to, t, the t, the, t, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to to, to to to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to. to. to. to. too, ta, their, their ta, their their the ta, the the the ta, the too, the the too, the the too, the the too, the too, like, like, like, like, like, like, theirOT rigs? We just need a Corgi registered gas fit to sign off on the boiler. What's going on here? Yeah, so we met this woman about two years ago, she's just had her child, but she's your child,

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job as comedians we're constantly taking, you know, we take the mic out of stuff and you have a joke about stuff but then when you look at someone who's just gone and done something like that for nothing really. Yeah, it's an incredible thing. And like you know it's it's given us the one thing and even like her other half I look at him and think like he's gone through this as well you know he's gone for his wife and I'm really for this but they're gonna implant the sperm in the egg aren't there's that that big Tom's not getting involved is it? We're coming around with a fucking I like murder and successful but not that

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kind of thing. And it's the important thing because I always sort of weird he took the piss out of people you know when they go like um oh I find myself doing it to everyone who comes in our house. This is your uncle's uncle's uncle's wrong yeah this is your uncle whatever. This is daddy's colleague Rommish. I didn't ask this with H because I'm not as familiar with H but um could you take us through because we had a lot of chat with this, the providing your own, providing the sample, Tom. What was that experience like? So the first part of it was, like, you can now do it, basically, if you live within an hour

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so so in the end I just yeah you do it in the room which is like so what's the car in a car park. A lot of people do. So at the end I just yeah you do it in the room which is like... So what's the room like? It's a gray, it's a pretty soulless room. It's like all the old sort of joke about like the old sort of, I think there's a porn-mage in drawers but the thing they're pretty clear about is there's a Wi-Wi-tha-there. There's a wo' the the the the the th-the-the-tha thing th-tha thing th-tha thing th-tha thing th-tha thing th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th-tha-tha-tha-tha th-tha-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n' th-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n't-n't-n't-n't-n't-n't-n't-n't-n't-n't-a-n't-a-a-n'-a-a-a-soo'-s'-s'-train-train-train-train-s'-train-train-train-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-n, there's decent Wi-Fi, that's what a woman said to me. There's a good Wi-Fi in there. There's good Wi-Fi in that. Oh, God, I'm going to stop my emails actually while I'm in there. Well, so I can Instagram like this, yeah? Yeah. It must be weird though, working on that reception desk. You're just seeing men every the tho-I. thoom. th. thoom. th. th. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. to-I. I. thi-I. I's, I's, thi-I-s. thi-s. th-s. I's-s. th-s. th-I-I's-s. I's-I-I's-s. I'm just-s. I'm just-s. I'm going. I'm going, I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm just-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-a-s-a-s-s-a-s-a-s-a-s-s-a-s. Oh-s. Oh-s. Oh, I'm going-s. Oh, I'm going-s. Oh, I'm going-s-s. Oh, I'm going-s. Oh, I'm going when you're a man sitting in the waiting room while you're there. Yeah. So every

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to do it, you're like, right, I'm not going to drink, I'm going to the place and I did two samples. The first time I did the samples, I had been out like a night or two before and I had a right drink and it was sort of, I was so hung over and sort of in my head I was like, even if these are spurns at work, do I want my child born from like really drunk, old, like, lazy old scene. Yeah, gross's like going. I'm a ready-mash.

Going to Spain when she's older and just tear her man going, no wonder you like it. I cut the sham and girls a day before you. Funny story actually. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, man, it's a, yeah, it's a hell of a thing. It's like, yeah, it's the one thing that, but it's the one thing you've got to do as a man, right? You've got to do it in one sample. And then they've got to both the salgaet and my wife

are like injecting them, they got to inject yourself, you've got to go for IVF, you've got these reallytwo women are doing this all of this so we can have this child and and like so try you know at times of going oh good the indignity of having a wank in a room in a room yeah yeah yeah they shouldn't do it in the waiting room and they're they shouldn't do it in the the the the the the the ladies have to go for is unbelievable compared to just a bit of waking in a pot were you at the birth yeah yeah yeah yeah I was took I took a sort of back so I wasn't I wasn't I can't be fun and said the yeah yeah yeah I try to look her in the eye afterwards no no it was no I was there and... Do you feel like a weird kind of spare part in that situation?

Yeah, yeah, I think, but I don't know what, like I say, this is the only way I've ever been through it, but I guess all men feel like... I felt like, I felt like, you know, we didn't have a surrogate and I still felt sort of like a spare part kind of thin, but, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you, like, like, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, like, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, yeah, I can't speak hardly enough of the NHS on the midwife's and how they took into consideration everything, you know, everything on board like, you know, from the situation we're in with the surrogate, but also obviously with what the three of us do for a living, there's an element of like people sort of prying in and like making sure we

that we felt like comfortable in that scenario book. Because yeah, some people may choose not to make it public that they went for a surrogate, which is their choice and stuff, but I think if you've got to be honest with your daughter early on, then I don't think there's a, I think it's a good thing to talk about. Also I think it's important to, you know, I think it's important to, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, like, you, like, you, you, like, like, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, th.. th. thin, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to, to, the, to, to, to, th.. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. to, to, to, to, the, the a long time and I think it's, you know, because I think there's so many different levels as being a dad that we'll get on to, but also I think when it comes to sort of, like the struggle that we went through to to actually have a child was like, it's one thing I sort of, I'm really conscious of, like, I think whenever, when we go to parties, when, when, when, when the their their their, when we go, their, their, their, th, their, th. Like there was always a bit of heartbreak there like we'd always sort of I'd find it really hard at times and whenever you know family member or friend would get pregnant and we'd been trying for so long you'd sort of there's always a thing because you're really happy for other people but not being like shattling it from the roof to but also being honest about the process to get where we've got. I think it's really important

to talk about it and I think you should be really proud of yourself for doing it because lots of people listening will be going through similar things and to hear about you know, the process and stuff that, you know, that, the thinn't thi really their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the process. I. I. I. I's really really really really really really really really really really really really hea'. I's really really really hea'. I'm really he's really he's really he's really he's really helps. And not. And not. And not, I'm really really really really really really really really really really really really really really understand it, do you know what I mean? No, yeah, that's what we found when we were first doing it. Like even family members, you know, you talk about it, people would be a little bit like, I think people have read horror stories like in those crony old magazines that you see and dentists. Yeah, of course.

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I've never ever talked about this since. We were going for this oregancy thing. And before they even take the semen check with the NHS, they're like, look, if we're going to basically, if you're going to go to go to go to go the NHS they're like look if we're gonna basically if we if you're gonna go down this with us we need to sort of yeah we we kind of need to make sure it works and they you know which is fair enough you know they're gonna put a lot of money into you and yeah like the woman was like yeah you're a beast and like oh god that's a small thing you need. I've got a strong seat, it doesn't really matter, we don't know if you're going to fucking live it out.

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It's insane, isn't it? What did you want a girl, Tom? What was the reason that you kind of... I don't know, because my niece and a nephew are both amazing and I just, I don't know, I just thought, number one, that sort of, that sort of, I'll look, I just, I don't know, I just always sort of like, it was just on what we always thought of having and just always talked about. It's sort of like our heart was, always around, you know, don't give me wrong if it had been a boy, it had been amazing. But, yeah.

And that was by sort of chance with it being a girl. Can you do that then in Surrey, I think you can't had that, I'm, you know, I've got no information on this and I could be wildly, wildly inaccurate and like we could all get sued by her, she's studying to be a lawyer. Yeah, I know. Imagine that, that would be so pathetic, wouldn't it? Turned up to fucking Croydon and Crown Court. King Kodashion. It's like ruined. What happened and me going, well I said on a podcast, you know, Kim Kanisha, they chose me. There used to be a thing called a podcast back in the day.

Yeah. Would you do more, like, would you go into more kids things? You were in Paddington too, obviously? Yeah, like, which is going to be quite exciting when she's old enough to see Paddington too. Can you see yourself doing more kid stuff? Yeah one car I'll do one quick one but I think that's probably yeah sort of kid is yeah what you're planning in Willie Wonka can't it no I know it's by three of the umpulmpers cut me down I can't really say Beck, Seltzer.

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close to her dad so you sort of and also the nature of our job is well on the road all the time we're busy well we're sort of you know if I'm filming or whatever I'm doing I'm you know it's not up then you you know I'm close with my family I've sort got a big well now the things as well you've not had to worry about schools and stuff so like if you do move you sort need to move when she's about four or five so that she can go to that school because you don't really want to be moving her when she's old when she's old you know no no no because that comes with its own like things and also the the the the the the things and the th things and th th th th th th th th th th th th th things and th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi tho tho tho thi thi thi thi tho tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin thin thin thi thi thi thou to to to to to to to have friends from nursery that then she goes into school, but you don't want to start school and not known any of. I don't worry about that, I think nursery you can cut it off, but when, from primary to secondary, you want to make it a bit more cohesive.

My daughter, their four of them and it's it's fucking intense. Yeah but I think you've got... How is your daughter now? Four. Four. They've got the relationship of a of a girl band that's been touring together for too long. Yeah, they've got... Well, I think you want to balance, you don't want to move them too much, but also they've got to learn that people come and go in their lives. Yeah, and they can't have crutches. What are your daughter's ages, Rob? Four and six, so my eldest is in year one of school and then my youngest is starting reception next year.

So yeah, so obviously when they leave nursery, the kids are going to move again now. We really like the school they're in and there's a good secondary school nearby as well. So we're quite happy in this. We might move but we would stay in this area. Yeah, you've got to do a proper move. You've moved out out when you're like you'd be getting like that sort of bit out. Yeah, a bit further out. So like, at to be driving, doing the school run, killing yourself for an hour and a half. Do you live near to where you both grew up then? Um, no, Josh don't, I do. I'm, I'm in sort of like the nicer end of where I grow up in where I grew up, I grew up in their grow up. Because lose from the night, the nice, their, thin' thinnene' th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, I's, I's, I's, I' their, I' their, I' their, I' their, I' their, I' their, I' their' their' their' their their their' their' their' their' their' their' their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I' th, I' th, I' th, I' th, I' throwne.. I' throwne. I' throwne, I' throwne, I' throwne, I' throwne, I' throwne, I' throwne, I' throwne, I' throwne, I kid. They're going to be like them posh kids, you know, like Madonna's son and the old Gallagher's kids.

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I can cry on fucking anything now. Like, genuinely, like, I find myself just having moments where I just feel overcome by it, and sort of like, like, just being like know how you, you know, I talk a lot with Rom about this, I don't know, you know, all three of us do a job where, you know, he's quite emotionally dead though. I think it's the opposite, isn't it? I think it's a real melting point. It's just so covered over. It's sort of like a dormant volcano. You think there's nothing there but one day. But we're we talk about having an imposter syndrome and you

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Yeah, he was doing a new character at this open night, yeah. And Beckett came onto me afterwards. I didn't say it to me then, did I? I think you, no, you said it to me a while, I think I said it to you later after one of your hit shows. And Beckett's around he said, go you used to it because it's not. Well I saw him at the Open Mike game, it was a new character and I don't think you've carried on. No, no, no, it's fair to say, he's never really seen the light of day. It just wasn't as good as the other ones he did. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I themed. I themed. I themed. I themed. I themed. I themed. I theree. I theree. I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I the the the the the the the the the the the thed. I thed. He th th th th th th th th th th th thi. He thi. He thi. He thi. He thi. I said, I theree. I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I went, yeah I remember doing that gig together. But he went, yeah, that was years ago, that thing and I remember, I remember thinking, he's got something, but it ain't this.

You know what, like, that worst thing of like, Beckett and me come up around the same sort of time. It was about 20 people in a basement in London watching. You have that weird thing of like everyone kept on saying like, oh you must have met Beckett, you and Beckett we come from a very similar background. Yeah, you know, we never, I think we did eight out of ten cats twice together but yeah, never, no one of the thanks. I ever puttoday. Because it was like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the to. to. to. to. to. to. to, to. to, everyone, with you and storm it is one of my favorite things I ever did that cats with you. Oh, we did your thing about your dad and child and our friends or isn't it? Yeah, that's hilarious. But I remember doing that gig and everyone was saying oh yeah wait to you and Rob will hit off you from the same and I was like, I fucking no and I was doing this new character, I thought, oh fuck, maybe I should just do saying that. At the time I was doing

sleep but a different version of it and I was like maybe I should do, no it's a new material I should try saying you know, I think she'll try saying you'll try to smash it. And then I just remember after it was like, the fucking, the thinks, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people,'re thinking, oh he's a fucking, he's an absolute waste's face. No, it was, all I remember thinking was, it was like the character weren't working, but I was like, how can someone who's so funny, so charismatic and so likable, being doing this badly? What's theyme?

What's it just didn't make the same. It was like someone to the left. But he just looked perfect. He had everything going, but it just weren't the right character. That's what it's about trying thing, isn't it? But that's a weird thing in it of going back now and doing gigs again, like and doing, because you sort of missed that, like. I love the immediate feedback of a live gig. Yeah. It's also weird. It's not. that. that. that. that. It's not. that. It's not. It's not. that. It's not. It's not. It's not. that. It's not. It's not. that's a. that's a. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. That's a weird. That's a weird. That's a weird. That's a weird. That's a weird. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's a weird. That's a weird. That's a weird. That's a weird. That's a weird. That's a weird. That's a weird. That's a weird. It's a weird. It's a weird. It's a weird. It's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird, that's a weird. that's a weird. that's a weird, that's a weird. that night and then going looking on Twitter or Instagram and going oh shit people are watching it and people are talking because people will just box at it and they might mess you might not so you don't have any of that sort of stuff that we

were used to have him when we all started out so that's the stackle. So I think that's a sthaw. I think that's a's the plan I think is to sort of out desperate is a man for a hotel room sleeve yeah I'm trying to get back to stand at my roots yeah yeah just got a passion project you've shown no interest in that for the last fucking eight ten years you literally you're literally saying to me how lucky you were that you didn't have to fucking do any more gigs well if you want to do to do the the the the the the the the the the to to the the their. their. their. their. their. their. If. If. You. If. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You're. You. You. You. You. You're. You're. You. I. I. I. I. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I........................................................................................ the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. you were that you didn't have to fucking do any more gigs. Well, if you want to do some working progress, I know a good little promoter that runs eight gigs in the Highlands of Scotland that always sell out, they're really excited to see new people do live stuff, but it's eight nights on a hotel. So if you want to, we can arrange that. She listens to this podcast, that'll be? Tom, thank you so much.

That is so genuinely. One more question. Oh yeah, it just feels a bit glib, doesn't it really, after the conversation we've had? Well, yeah, I'll take about it. Honestly, though, I know we said it earlier, but you're talking about it is so important and a lot of people, we get loads of messages of hearing different sort of parenting stories that are slightly, slightly different and I'd be in an open about it, and especially as a bloke from your background because working class folks don't talk about anything and the more they do the better it'll be. So well done for that. I think it was really important.

But now... You talk about returning to stand up? I thought that was really great. Very brave. No, it's not. It's a great great. the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. the the the the the th. th. the the the thoke. thoke. thoek. the the thoke. tho tho tho tho tho the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. tro. tro tro tro tro tro tro troo troo tro trooo trooooo troooooooooooooooooooooooooo is, is it it might be difficult with 10 weeks in, but is there one thing that your partner does parenting wise that annoys you that you'd rather, she didn't do, but you haven't brought it up yet because it might cause a row. Is there something you differ on at the moment? I think it's all the time but that just it's like everything that she's tip I'm like I can bake a birth I

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So you treat that like a game, you're like, right, okay, if I can get her to do this, then I fucking win it being her dad. And if I don't, I fucking suck. I'm a loser. Yeah few lessons up the club. Just standing with you two in a fucking Beckett just going, no mate, all you got to do right, it's just... Is it in? Is it in? Yeah, he's it in, Tom. You just remit in some round of guns and then slow. Let me get a taste for it and then give it the rest. Tom, thanks so much. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Tom. Thank th. Thank th. Thank you. Thank th. Thank th. Thank th. Thank th. th. Thank th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to tha. tha. the