Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S04 EP30: James Bay

Episode Date: May 13, 2022

S04 EP30: James BayJoining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the singer-songwriter - James Bay. His new single 'One Life' is out now. And to find out tour dates and info go to; www.jamesbay.com BIG NEWS.... we're writing a book! ⭐ All the stories we can’t tell on the podcast – in depth.⭐ What it’s like to raise a stiff neck and a loose neck – straight from the horse’s mouth (our parents)⭐ And.. the BIGGEST REQUEST WE’VE EVER HAD FOR THE PODCAST… Hearing from our wives, Rose & Lou. They’ve got a chapter each and YOU can submit your burning questions to them... [e-mail]'s it really like to be a parent? And how come no one ever warned Rob or Josh of the sheer mind-bending, world-altering, sleep-depriving, sick-covering, tear-inducing, snot-wiping, bore-inspiring, 4am-relationship-straining brutality of it all? And if they did, why can't they remember it (or remember anything else, for that matter)?And just when they thought it couldn't get any harder, why didn't anyone warn them about the slices of unmatched euphoric joy and pride that occasionally come piercing through, drenching you in unbridled happiness in much the same way a badly burped baby drenches you in milk-sick?Join Josh and Rob as they share the challenges and madness of their parenting journeys with lashings of empathy and extra helpings of laughs. Filled with all the things they never tell you at antenatal classes, Parenting Hell is a beguiling mixture of humour, rumination and conversation for prospective parents, new parents, old parents and never-to-be parents alike.Find out everything you need to know, including how you could win a pair of tickets to the Parenting Hell LIVE tour & an overnight stay in London here: https://www.bit.ly/ParentingHellBookWe're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK?Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there...ON SALE NOW 14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena19th April 2023 - Nottingham20th April 2023 - Cardiff 21st April 2023 - London (The O2)23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley)28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and member terms apply. Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willickham. Welcome to Parent in Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what is really like to be a parent which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe.

Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hill with... Ellen, say Rob Beckett. Rock Beckett. And now say Josh Whitakham. Josh Jukitinon. There you, thank you so much. Don't know about that. Don't know about that, Rob.

Not happy with that one. No. Just we listen to the Widdickin'an. Because it was going so well. Josh Jinkinan. There you think. Josh Jinkinan. Jinkinan. Josh. Hello, Rob and Josh.

Congratulations on the wonderful podcast, which keeps me laughing to myself during my lunchtime walks. I do not have children myself, but I am the proud aunt to Eleanor, who is nearly for a newborn Iris. I know that Rob loves his wild guesses, so I am originally from, but I'm living in. And Eleanor and Iris are growing up in with their blank father and blank mother. Can you fill in the gaps, Rob? Oh, it feels like I'm about to be cancelled. Um, so I'll just pull you in.

I'm originally... I'm gonna go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, South Africa now living in Bristol and the dad's Dutch. Living in the Netherlands. Oh, nearly? Yeah, originally Greek living in the Netherlands and Eleanor and Iris are growing up in York with their Greek father and Brazilian mother. Fucking hell. I can't do the maths on that. Imagine what they have, I wonder what that for Christmas Day. I wonder what they have for Christmas dinner.

So look, there's Greek there, there's Brazilian, there's Dutch, it's all sorts. Yeah, there's York. I reckon they just, theagna why not the right how you Josh you good yeah I'm all right Rob so last to last Sunday yeah went down to talk he for a gig course on the train down it's getting off the train walked past who was sat there bloody Fay Ripley oh lovely Fay Ripley from lovely Fay lovely Faye Ripley yeah she was looking through the script she was off to do Doc Martin lovely then went to Cornwall the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho the they the tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they Fay Ripley. She was looking through the script because she was off to do Doc Martin.

Lovely. Then, went to Cornwall for a couple of days. Following Friday night, come back, who's on a train? It's only Faye Ripley coming back from Doc Martin. I mean, this is, if she's become your stalker, what a turn of events and she's using Doc Martin. Went to New York, Fay Ripley's only there, filming Doc Martin. Talking to that, remember if you've got any of your underwhelming celebrities in amazing places. Oh, that's a bad link, Rob. That doesn't sound

fair. No, New York's an amazing place. That is unfair on favorite. I'd say, okay, you've panicked me now. No, I wouldn't say favouritably is an underwhelming uh, celeb spot, which is a great celib spot, but talkies an underwhelming place to have spotted favoritely, do you mean? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Totally good work. But yeah, big celebrities in tiny places or small celebrities in very impressive places, that's what we're looking for. Greg Davis in Tinkerton

is Tinkerton a place imagine it is near you and it probably is yeah Susan Cowman up the Birch Califer. Anyway anyway moving on. Do you want to Instagram message? Yeah here we go. Hello I'm a long-time fan of the podcast and everything you say. I'm still thinking about celebrity. It's impossible not to think us all celebrities in big places or vice versa. Yeah. Pudsey the dog up the Millennium Eye. Oh my God! Pudsey the dog got millennium eye. But that is the most naughty reference. Pudsey the dog's been dead 10 years. The London art, the Millennium Eye, did you call it? Yeah, I know.

It's the Millennium Wheel, it's the London... The London art. Oh my God. So anyway. To make Josh feel better, here's I took him to stay at my mom's for the weekend to give my husband a child-free night out of his mates in Crystal Palace where we lived at the time and occasionally would see Josh at the Sangebreeze. Where's this? Where's this?

Crystal Palace? Why would I mean, Sanjury's in Crystal Palace? That's definitely not me, is it? Yeah, it's a big, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th.... th. th. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, th. thi, thi, th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, th................ th, th, th, th...... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Chris to the Palace. So anyway they're out and about in Crystal Palace. Went out of his mates for the first time since becoming a dad, he was so tired that he fell asleep in the pub early on in the night just after a couple of drinks. The bar staff told his friends that he had to leave as he was too drunk, but they managed to persuade them that he was merely the dad of a newborn and please could they leave him for a bit to have a sleep, which they kindly did. Hang in there Josh Owls, sleep soundly

for 11 hours every night and under. And the sleep training is now a distant memory, Rebecca and Russ Evans. Well, I'm all right now. I'm not one to be complaining at the moment. No, but your issue now is the movement now now now now now now now now the movement now the movement now the movement now the movement now the movement now the movement now the movement now the movement now the movement now the movement now the movement now the movement now the movement now the movement the movement the movement the movement the movement the movement the movement the movement the movement the? Yeah, it's actually the awaking time, is the problem. It was quite a good one to come off the back of Tom Crane last week, the sleep one, if anyone's feeling Tom Crane's pain. I've got another sleep one here.

We love your podcast, listen every week. The more tired than Josh Feether always gives us a giggle. We have a two-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-inininin'-o-o-a-a-o-o-o-o-o-o'-s. to-s-s-s-s. to-s. tho'-s. tho'-s. tho'-s. tho'-s. tho'-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s, it's-s. tho'-s. tho'-s. tho'-s. tho'-s. tho'-s. th-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-a-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-a-a- and his working dog lives at home with us. I came down early one morning after Ian had left for work to find a very baffled looking dog. Quick phone call later, which went a little something like, Have you forgotten something? Him? No. It's liver and wire and as a waggy tail. Oh shit, I'm on my way. So he had gone on a shift as a police dog handler

without a police dog. Oh my god. That is incredible. But he. the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. tho. tho. to to to to to to to th. th. I, th. I, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, tod. And, tod today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, too. And, too. And, too. And, today, today, today, today, that is incredible. But he took the two-year-old who actually got let loose on a drug dealer and bit his arm and contained him until backup arrive. Thanks to laughs and making us feel a bit more sane. Heather Ian and police dog Joe. No child though. That's weird. So Heather Ian and police dog Joe. No kid's name, no kids no kid but the dog got name checked. Well maybe there's no kid. I don't know, I think we're getting bogged down by this for no reason, aren't we? Yeah, we don't need to go into it.

Right, should we get into James Bay? Yes. Really good interview this. He's a very nice bloke, James. Oh, lovely, bloke. He's very like a tender, is it? Very emotional, like really loves... Musicians are more emotionally open than comedians, aren't they? Yeah, they are. And I remember I'm sort of like on the, on one side of the sort of comedian fence and all my mates who grew up with, so like, when you speak to something who's like really in touch their emotions, but yeah, he loves his kid so much old babe. James Bay, oh Jay Bay. Anyway, here's James Bay.

James Bay, welcome to the podcast. How's it going? Good? Thank you for having me. I don't listen to an awful lot of podcast, but I've become a bit obsessed with this, so I'm nervous. Oh, oh, thank you. I thought I was just going to say, thank you for having me. I don't I've respected that as well. Maybe more. that. that. tha. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Thank th. th. Thank th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. to to to to theea. to to to thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the listen I'd have respected that as well maybe more maybe more let me this about I'm got kids but um nice speaking I've seen a good to go in in the background of Josh's picture so I'm ready yeah I've got I've got an album out don't listen but let's let's do this is the name of the album see the the alb see you the k what's the the k what's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the's the kid set up? You've got one child, James? I have one child. I'm six months into being a dad. Me, and me and Lucy, my partner are six months into life with little Ada, our daughter. Oh, that's a nice name. Thank you very much.

It's lovely and wonderful and terrifying, all at once. James, James, you sound quite broken. Okay, all right. Is that fair? Great start. The way you have gone, it's fun, it's the long list. It's always the list is the giveaway. How is the sleep though? Are you broken or not? Or is it just early? The sleep's okay. Actually, we've been on a bit of a roller coaster ride with sleep in the last six months. And actually, one of the most sort of normal scenarios is that we're all kind of up around about 7 a.m. which feels pretty good in truth a lot of the time a does a wait from sort of 530 and we're just sort of trying to

make her wait about 7 a.m. Yeah yeah yeah but then yesterday completely unexplained I got up ready to go because I'm usually changing an apie at like 7 a.m. I went I pep-a. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm a their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm a their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I'm a their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm.m. And I went, I peeped in, and her eyes were shut, and she just slept in till quarter past eight, don't know what? Whoa. What's that bad? I know, I know, I know, theyreight. Yeah, of course, you can never take advantage of that situation. to their tool, not to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their to their to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. I. I. I. tip. I. tip. too. tip. tip. tip. tip. toda. today, today, t so so sleep is okay. I think obviously, you know, at this point, we have both just resigned to it being sometimes all over the place and just being able to roll with that. We also had like, we had that thing, I feel like this actually kind of common that

about eight weeks, lots of people's babies sometimes are sort of chilling out and getting into a little bit of their own little sort of sleep routine and life goes from especially I suppose be your first baby it goes from madness complete madness and like everything's brand new to like a little bit of settling and by sort of Christmas we'd like absolutely smashed it you completed it the naivety is through the room yeah and then mid-January, first signs of teething, first bits of sleep aggression, actually, and this is something I actually

wanted to ask you about, sort of briefly, like, she's been going through, she's all right at the moment, she's all right now, but Xema arrived. Oh yeah, we're big on the Xma scene. Oh yeah, we're big on the Xma scene. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, the th. Yeah, ex, th. th. th. the th. th. the th. the the th. the the the the the the the the the th. thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thee, tee, tee, tiea. tiea. thee. thee. thi. the thi. the the the the the the thi. the Xma scene. We're big names on the Xma scene. You're a bit of a player on the Xma scene? Yeah, I'm big on the Xma scene. I'm a dairy intolerant guy, if you want anything on that, which can lead to Xma. It can be the same thing. Josh is your Xma guy, I could know. Can I just say, so we went to a bit, we, we, we, we, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to, to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a t. I'm a t. I'm a t. ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, I'm a t. I'm a t. I'm a t. Have you been to the doctor about it? We've been the whole sort of gambit and we're in a much better place now but can I sort of just say that for all the wonderful things that Libwives and

everybody tell you to sort of help try and prepare you as your baby arrives no one says a word about the potential of Xma and it's like I had no idea I've just said it to you guys. It's to to to to the to the to the the to the to the the the to the to the to the the the the to the the the the to to the the to the to the to to to to the the to to the to the the potential. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to be. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the te. te. te. te. te. tel. tel. tel. tel. tel. tel. tel. tel. te. to. to. Josh particularly... It doesn't even come up on this podcast before. It's the unspoken. You know, I've scoured, I've scoured your episodes looking for Xma. Really? I'm an Xma virgin. I used to have Xma as a kid but my kids don't really suffer with Xma. Talk me? What's the Xma game? Talk me thrown. It just sort of, I suppose kind of, Josh may be of a gree, like it randomly reveals itself if it wants to.

Yeah. And then you've got the problem of sort of dealing with like a, for us it was a tiny baby who, you know, she had, she needed to sort of itch and this and that and the other. Actually, obviously you've got to keep babies. Yeah. What's your technique, the clippers or some people say bite them, which I think's madness.

So far the techniques work best for me was let Lucy do it. Okay, fair enough. I'm, she's got brilliant little fingers that are just perfect and mind like big sausage disaster. You do play guitar for a living, so they must be like, big sausage disaster. I'm just not very intricate with my fingers if I'm honest with you. Never been good with the hands. Lucy does a fantastic job of that.

We heard about the biting thing. That was never going to happen. And I will say, yeah, I've heard all sorts of different stories about people trying to cut their baby's nails. And Ada is typically, she sort of lies back like she's at the salon on Lucy's lap and she, Lucy was originally sort of doing like clipping her nails while she was asleep and she'll just gently come around and be like, oh you're right, nice yeah, thank you, yeah just doing my nails, that's lovely. And there's no sort of big trouble with it, but it's still they seem to grow back like in the next ne next th. th. th. th. the next th. the next the next th. the next the next the next th. the next th. th. th. th. the next, th. th. th. th. they they they they they they they they they they're they seem they seem they seem they seem they seem they seem they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to try, try, try, try, try trying, trying to try, trying, to try to try to to thi. thi. thi. the. th is a thing with nails. They will grow back. And which is intense in itself.

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Are they not? Is that right? Not really. But she's so around these sort of extra time that, you know, lots of baby clothes in the early days have got the mitts on the end of the slip. Actually that was all still too abrasive. Oh really? You've had it worse than me, well my than my daughter, so and me. As like as someone who's not experienced it, so what, where is the ex-mers all over the body or just that hands or? I mean when the doctor we talked to who said it spreads like wildfire. Yeah he's not done a great job of that I say. That was a a little moment. that was a little moment. What have you got? What have you got? What are you putting on it? There's all various.

We did WD-40 in the end. That was a weird one. Did you do that? No? No, I'm trying to be up. Yeah, of course. I feel like I'm not hanging out with bifters. One of the really handy things was going, we had to find these, they were these silk mitts, which sounds well pop. Oh yeah. It sounds really sort of bougy. But she, they've worked a tree. In fact, we found it's like an independent. You know what, they'd be a great small business shout out. They're called scratch sleeves. Scratch sleeves. the time, scratch it and make it worse than like not sleep and wine and moan. Exactly. Worst case scenario, round the clock we had to keep her hands out of her face. Oh because she had it on a face.

How do you keep her hands out of her face? By staying away. Pad them away. Oh man, a life. What the closest we've sort of had to that is chicken pox. My youngest got chicken pox really bad so again it's those of like itchy lumps so that they're scratching all the time and you can't tell like a six one fold not to scratch and they're on there back. If you had chicken pox the last thing you want to do is lay down. When you when you also had chicken box how young? When you also when you also the the not she was a baby like probably six seven months laying down she wasn't walking or chronicle but she because what my eldest who was about three got it and she had a couple but she was honestly covered she was about to tell you're.

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Well, she thought I hadn't, but I thought I had. So there we go. Don't let's not get that. I don't know where measles and shingles come into this. Don't this tiny little baby standing in the garden with a massive face and he looks like one of those little footballers with the big hits. The Corinthian figures he looks he's in a nappy and he looks exactly like my own. He's got a little smile on

his face but he says his memories of it where it was absolutely horrible. So fingers crossed. We had, so sleep was sort of all over the place for a while and I think that four month, five months regression thing was not great. But the teething thing was actually, she seemed to be, have like teething symptoms for, oh mate, it takes forever to get those teeth out. About literally about five days ago, two have then, then, then, then, then, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, theeea, thee, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thoing, theeeeat, theeeeat, theeeat, theeeeeat, theeeeat, theeeeeeee, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, thean, thee. And, thean, thean, thean, and I's, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, the those teeth out. About literally about five days ago two have come through. Well, yeah, I don't know I don't want to pull rank here but try teeding with thoroughbreds when they've got these teeth. With your little normal-sized teeth these big old chompers plowing through their head. How big of the first set of a Beckett? Oh, absolute heavy duty. It is when the the their, it is, it, it, to, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, th, th, th. th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, I'm, I tee, teeating, I'm, I' teeating, teeating, teeting, teeting, teeating, but teeating, but teeating, but teeating, tee, tee, tee, tee, tee, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, tie, tie, try, try, try, try, try, try try tieing, tieing, teating, teating, teating, teating, teating, teating, teating, tieing, tieing, tieing, thing is, it is when the Beckett's kids teeth come out you're basically going are they going to get them or not? Do you know like some families got the ears or the nose or the nose or the dimpoles it's all you are the get and if you've got the Beckett teeth you know

they just never don't stop keep coming. Beckett's, the Beckett teeth. Yeah, he's got big Beckett teeth. My mom's got some more normal size teeth. What about your brothers? Yeah, they've all got big becket teeth. But my brother Joe's got like, a bigger mouth than me because he's like six foot two and he's bigger, but mine looks bigger. so sharp so you'll go to like razors. Yeah, the little ones do and then when they're about six or seven they get the bigger ones. So my six year olds getting like the, her, it's just mad when they come from.

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I have been backworking and it's, and I, you know, like, I'm getting a much better sense at the moment of what like the rest of the year will be. And actually when I first, when I first discovered this brilliant podcast, I was isolating, uh, uh writing, I have like a place around the corner from my house like a writing room where I'll go and do all sorts of work and it sort of doubles up as a flat. There's like a little sort of hour set up and a bed and all that. Have you moved out James is that what you're trying to tell us? Have we got the divorce scoop on the side bar of shame next week? I it was really convenient I was thir the the the thiiiiii. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. I'm th. I'm to to to to to to to to to to go. I I I I was to go. I I I I was to go. I I I I I I was. I was. I I I was. I I was. I was. I was to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I, it was really convenient because I got COVID at the end of, I started this year in January I was doing a two week, just a little sort of refresher tour. It was really fun, just like

me, solo acoustic. I bet it was mate, you've got a kid at home that's not sleeping. I'll just head out on a refresher tour. Thank you very much. Bash out, basts of an acoustic. No other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other debate. It was also when the while I was away, thinking, okay, all right, a little bit of sleep, not bad. Yeah. But it was when the X-members sort of starting, so it was very stressful being away,

because Lucy was a deal of the time. Because, you know, ultimately, Lucy's smashing it, and I'm trying to sort of come up behind. Paul McCarty used to take to take to take to take to take to take to take to take to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the to to to to their to to to their to to their to their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.... thi. thi. thi. thi. try. try. try. try. try and thi. thi. thia. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to sort of come up behind. Port McCartney used to take his kids on tour, didn't he? What a madman. Well, look, I'm not ruling it out. It's just when you've got some tiny baby, it's not quite feel possible yet. I mean, we would, no, we would ultimately like a sort of a future, especially before she sort of starts school proper. And I don't know, this is where I'm very naive. th. th. I'm very. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. th. to. to. th. thi. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. th. th. to. th. th. th. to. th. th. th. to. th. t. to. to. t. t. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. I. th. It's kicking off because she doesn't like her dinner. It's 804 PM, your due on stage, 10 past 8.

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defenders you see kids in at festivals. It's gonna get it's gonna get crazy stick them on kid you'll be alright. They're gonna damage your ears of all the laughs. Is there in music? Because I'd say comedians are kind of people that often have kids late. They're kind of in a kind of state of like suspended being young, maybe through their 30s a lot of comedians. No, it's not that. What it is is all comedians are awkward little virgin nerds till about 25 get a bit of confidence in their first job being funny, start the circuit of 30, meet someone at 40, have a kid. That's what happens. It's hard to have a kid when you haven't had sex for 25 years. No, in music I think it's similar or even more so, like people are trying to, I don't know, it feels like a lot of people are sort of, touring is a mad way of life so,

so maybe, I feel like I'm speaking for everybody. Could you just speak for anybody. Can you just speak for everyone? James Bay, speak for everyone. Put it on record. This is the voice of the music industry. Yeah, put it in the article. James Bay has left his wife and lives in a flat around the corner.

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I'm going to be there for a week or more. I'm awful as well like it's I've been with Lucy for a long time we've been together for since we were teenagers and in the early days of me going to thrown. brilliant at saying, basically, chin up, get out there and give it your best shot. I'll be here when you get back sort of thing. And I was rub it, I was like, oh no, I'm going to miss you so much all this stuff. And I've sort of built up, we both built up like a sort of strength to be able to deal with it over the years that I've been doing this now. Now we've had this little baby and I just, I just sounds well-soppy but I'm just going to miss her like crazy. Yeah, yeah, that's hard. Because it's the guilt as well as the missing, you feel bad that you're not there to help but then you've got to earn the money haven't you?

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affected your songs? Have you started writing about her and would you shy away from that? I would honestly I don't know how many songs my fans want to hear about oh my beautiful baby how I love you I brought a life into the world like yeah I it'll find its way in like one way or another into my writing it will sort of find its way because it's been a huge emotional sort of transition for me yeah I'll just I'll just try not to be too on the nose about it. So is she loose your maternity leave then? Is she due to go back at some point or? No, she actually she finished working and she this has been very much of sort of, I suppose, like a dream of her to be able to just be a mom. Full-time mom, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th that that brings an extra pressure if she's going back to work then you've got

to find someone to cover the you're both shifts and stuff so so I'm lucky in that respect and we're lucky of course that she we're in a position that she can do that and she yeah it was it was a big kind of dream can do that. Does it make you want to have more then? Do you reckon you're, you're, it seems like you're absolutely besotted? We both, we both come from like siblings as well. Like, neither are... So do I, but that put me off. their tasks, to run around with and all that sort of the one is we'd love her to have mates, you know, actual mates in the house sort of run around with and all of that sort of things.

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you know sometimes you know sometimes you know sometimes you know sometimes. You know sometimes if you can't have one. their the same age they just play. But I think if you can't They just, because if there's a big gap, sometimes it's like a 10-year-old trying to play over the two-year-old. They're on two different wavelengths, aren't there, if there's a big gap? Yeah, is it mad?

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And she could walk at nine months, but in like we dressed up in like a coat and a pair of shoes. And she walked with me through thoughts like, Hasbulla, you know, the little fella. It was like, they couldn't believe that a baby could walk at that age and stuff, but when your, it's your kid, you don't sort of realize. And is she now brilliant, a walker, is she gonna be one of those walkers at the Olympics? Yeah, she's like really fast. Like on holiday she was running so fast. And I was like a seven-year-old that was there and he's like quite tall for his age.

She was keeping up with him. And because they started calling her dash at the end. She's meant it's so quick. It's actually like comedy how fast she is. I would love it if your daughter became an international athlete. That would be the the the it would be perfect for the podcast as well. It'll be brilliant if she was a sprinter. I think she might be.

She's really, I don't know, God knows what happened, but all I'm saying is she's fucking quick. She's rapid, she's rapid, she's rapid. I can't get her, I can't get her. If the burners. James panicky, you've already got three months. I was told that was quite late actually, James. It's quite late developers. At least at five months everyone's walking. I'm going to be holding her over a tripmill. Yeah.

So have you got, what are you other little paranoia is that you're aware of mental, but you can't help yourself thinking, you know, like, I used to, if they slept in? I used to, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I'd to, I'd to, I'd to, I'd to, I'd to, I'd to, I'd, I'd to, I'd, I'd, I'd to, I'd to, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd to, I'd to, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. to. to. told. told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, to. to. to. they're still alright. Because I assumed something awful had happened because they slept in. Oh yeah, every time. On her better nights sleep when she's so still, breathing so soft. All throughout this first six months, I've crept in quietly and... Just to see if the chest is going up and all that, yeah, it's horrible, isn't it? Trying in pitch black essentially. to see that. And you're half asleep. They're just ridiculous when you're half asleep. Recently, so we've been sort of getting on to like solids, but of course they're like mush down so they're not solid. Yeah. She's not on solid yet. I'm joking. I'm sorry Jay I wonder you are. Sorry I'm missing. Sorry I'm missing. We've been getting on to that initially. She was so up for it. I'm trying to think now. I'm like, I don't. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sort, I'm sort, I'm sort, I'm, I'm sort, I'm sort, I'm sort, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sort, to to to to to to, to, to, to sort, to sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, sort, to sort, to sort, to sort, to sort, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th th th to to th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to sort to sort to sort to sort to sort to that. Initially, she was so up for it. And we, so I'm trying to think now,

like, I don't know, maybe it's been like six weeks of that. And she's well up for it. And it was all going in and it was all pureed this and that. And as soon as the teeth came through, she's just clamp in the high chair and the food's all in front of her sort of thing, and we're coming in with the spoon and it's loaded and we're ready. She's just suddenly got no interest and it's been quite funny actually how quickly Lucy and I both go, oh God well now she's never going to eat. She's on milk forever, that's it. What happened to the like few weeks where she was loving,

she was absolutely loving eating something off a spoon, holding the spoon, taking the mouth herself, the whole bit, mouth wide open like clamping down, chewing it. Yeah, so it's very easy to sort of suddenly go, well, it's all, now we're going backwards. Everything's a panic. Everything is a panic, everything is a panic, where it certainly is in my life. I think that's the thing is like, she will eat, she will eat. And, ready for them to refuse food at every opportunity for the next four years of your life. Oh, my, I've got a six and four-year-old. All they eat is playing pasta. Yeah. She's carbloading, isn't she, Rob? She's carbloading. I just give them three heels a day now.

Just fuel. I don't do that. The funny thing is that Ada is like, seemingly loving the sort of general experience of like I say being sort of sat up in a high chair and sort of at the table with us and we usually having our lunch at the same time and sort of feeding her and trying to make it all quite obvious but she doesn't want to actually do the eating bit lately at all which is I don't know like you know there's a good and a bad side to this as well Lucy will sort of the toozy. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th thr-I th thi. thi. thi. Lucy will thi. thi. Lucy will the. the. Lucy to to to to to to to to to to to thi. Lucy will to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the. Lucy will. Lucy will. the. the thr-I. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the. the th me granted. She'll go and sort of seek out information. So she's doing the reading, she's doing the nails and you're just sort of generals overseeing the panic. Yeah and she just felt she just read something the other day that obviously says you know your baby will sort of be

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But I'll say Lucy has dealt with all manner of jet lag over the last 10 years and Ada, I'm just saying like she'll still be young enough that she'll just roll with it. What's interesting is even if you go away for a week, you do notice the difference. Josh you're kidding me? Like how old would she be in August and September? 10 and 11 months. Oh, that's the best month. Don't we can't get in his head like this. He's wondering you are. What I'd recommend, what I reckon would be a best shout is,

if Lucy came over and had a holiday, or in New York or Boston, wherever it was, and was based somewhere for a week, you know that you can pop in and and and and an and's not following you about, she's got this hotel room or a park, but Airbnb, somewhere nice that's nice and chilled in New York, and then you can pop in whenever you can and she has a nice time there. Because at 10 11 months, the baby can be in the buggy, they can walk around New York or maybe go upstate a little bit or something's a bit greener or something. Absolutely. And do it that way right in the middle, I think it's the best part. After a plane ride as well, we've been never, I don't think first time we're going to put them on a tour bus. That feels like a step too far.

Well, I'll be like, I've got to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to Australia, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go when I'm there, but what I try and do is me, if I'm there, right, and I've always wanted to do shows in Australia, so from a selfish point of view, it's a real career hire for me to go to Australia and do shows, and it's amazing. Me moping around Australia, feeling guilty, feeling like I'm missing out, all I'm doing is tortu of myself. Me being upset is not going to help the tool and the kids. Absolutely right. What's going to help them the best? She don't want me when she's had a terrible day with the kids, go, oh but I just miss you. Fuck off. You're by the beach in Australia. So you need to sort of be in that moment or be in that place.

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and my family. When you're there you can't beat yourself up because it's horrible to yourself. Just keep on top of like the pictures of you having a great time on Instagram. That's all you got. Just keep on top of that. It really like turns you over having a baby. It's a big head fuck massively, like emotionally and stuff. In the best and the maddest way that it is all the cliches, I was saying this on this tour like to the crowd every night I was I was I was saying like you know it's nice to see you all again has been so long because it's first time I've been doing any of it since COVID began you know and I said I've been up to all sorts I had a baby to the try and I said all of you thin, I said it is all the cli-s s s s s s' is all the clie clie clie cli-I is all this, it is all, it is all, it is, it is, it is, it is, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the the the the the the the thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's th, it's th, it's the th, it's the the the th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's the the thi, it's thi, it's the the thi, it's nice, it's nice, it's nice, it's nice, it's nice, it's nice, it's nice, it's nice, it's nice, it's the the the thi. thi. thi, it's the the thi, it's the greatest thing ever. I also said all the cliches are true, my baby is the most beautiful baby in the world. Yeah, that's true. I said all of you will think, you know, some of you in here got what you mean. I said no, no, like, for me, I mean, it's such a mad thing,

but the man in the street go, oh, have you? And no one gives a shit, you know, if you're doing the right thing. Because you'll be like, going, oh, if I'll be like, to do the people, or loo, to do a bit of primal or something and seeing all the people from the record label that I've known now for such a long time and I just like put them into a corner and get my phone out and show loads of a lot of photos of A. Yeah. I'm that guy. I'm like if they've got kids then I'm straight into all the what is to everybody else really mundane. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm that. I'm that. I'm th. I'm that. I'm that. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've thi. I've thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean. I'm theeeeeeeeeeee. I've the. I've the. kids, then I'm straight into all the, what is to everybody else, really mundane. I remember when she was tiny, one of the easiest ways for her to fall asleep was like on my shoulder.

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So that change happened so quickly. I felt like, yeah, I felt like I had these superpowers literally the same as you to get Ada to go to sleep. I'd hold her in a certain way and she's gone. I rock her like four t up tune, and she, just like gently, and she's gone. And then suddenly all these things just, like, as she wakes up and grows up and, like, like, like, every day a little bit more, my powers just disappear. Yeah, and soon, mate, she'll be at university and she won't even phone. Josh I love it saying that you're not even there you. I mean my daughter's only six but she already writes notes saying I don't like you you make me sad and leave them on my pillow.

Oh how are you going to deal with it? Well I felt felt it quite funny. She's only doing it for a reaction. Oh, James, James. No, yeah, he can detect how weak I am at this point. I'm already. How are you going to deal with that? I said, you know, I don't give a fuck Josh about that. But no, but you are incredibly now, I've got to provide for this child, I've got a help this child, get, navigate through the world, but it's like anyone, that's the first couple of weeks of a new job.

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We're getting up at seven. And I'm thinking in 12 hours, we're literally shutting down and like everybody's going to bed. Yeah, though, we're in lockdown. Our kids were going to bed at five. clock, they'd sleep 12 hours, wake up at 5, and then we just be just shifted back a few hours because if you put them a bed late, they'd always wake up at 5, so then me and Lou had a really long evening together, even though the days were long. But yeah, people, when they come around and go, someone came around, we used to have like parking permit and they came around at the te and I went, I've put two two, I've two, I've put, I've put, I've put, I've put, I've put, I've put, I've put, I've put, I've put, I've put two two two two two two two two two two, I've put two to to to to to to to to to to to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho, tho, their their their the the the the the the. the. the the the the the the the the the the to the to to to the the You going next door for an hour? What time are you going to bed, Jove? We are like, nine is like...

What are you wearing? Sorry. Don't say that aloud? Just a silk gloves, Rob. Just some pair of silk gloves. Yeah, we're going to bed at nine. I mean mean I'm just more than ever I'm sort of 830 I'm like shattered yeah and like well that's the maddest thing about 9 p.m. and maybe it's the same for you guys that's stage time yeah yeah I get a birth of energy about 10 o'clock at night when I've done normally finished my show so yeah I'll get all tired about seven eight and then I'm brought eyes wide awake at the 10 at 9. The difference as well, like last night I was out a bit later doing this music video

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She's just different like fun toys and things. She just goes for the label. You know, the toy. And she's just desperate for that. There's this whole like fluffy dragon. Yeah, they don't like anything you think they're going to like. No. You know, they never like the cool sort of toy. You know those people that are in like, I hate plastic. I don't only get wooden toys for my kid. Fair enough, but the kid's going to hate all those. They want. They want some some some some some some the the the they want the they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they want they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. th the. the. the the. tho tho tho thoo thooo the. the the thin they want want want they they they they they to find a struggle. You know I'm going to find it a struggle. You're a fan of the podcast, so you know the question, which is which thing that your partner does that you haven't said to them that annoys you. It's a difficult one because she does such a fantastic job. But you've definitely thought about it and got one lined up.

He's got one lined up Josh. Hang on, why you you you you why you, why you, why you, why you the white, why you the white the white the white the white the white the white the white the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. thin' thi. thi. thi. thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th is th. thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' th. th. th. You know we only need one? Put the whiteboard away. What's this big spider diagram? There's a little one which is like, I think we all wish that we all would sort of stop Googling quite so much. Yeah, Googling is a... Have you tried, have you tried Archeves? Yeah, Google. This doesn't actually happen for a while, but it certainly is always always to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to this hasn't actually happened for a while but it certainly is always stuck in my mind.

For a time early on Ada was in the bed with us for like early on when she was little and we were sort of about every hour or every other hour and there was particularly we were changing her and lose his feeding her and I remember. I if I like I changed her and then put Ada in the bed, and then I went to the toilet to sort of wash my hands. I just, this always riled me. I would come back in the bed and in the dark, Lucy would go, do you wash her hands? And I would say, yeah. And there's a little silence and she'd go, with soap.

It was a hard time thinking about Ada. Why do you think I am? What do you think? Yes, I have washed my hands. I watched my hands. No, but I wiped her hands. No, but I like the shit out my ass with my bare hands. So yeah, no, it doesn't really happen anymore, but that one did get me.

She stopped now. She trusts her. Oh, wait, I hope she listens to this and then asks you again. The thing is she will, but the fact is she will, she's a massive fan's role with the podcast. And also if you do bump into James Bay in the street or go to his gigs, please ask him if he's washed his hands. Yeah. And when he says yes, say with so. to me, I'm obviously, for so many. next gig. You've done it now. It's done. It's happening. Lads, this is genuinely though,

can I just say for me and Lucy and I'm obviously for so many parents, your podcast is incredible and helpful and brilliant. Oh thank you. Oh thank you, thanks for coming on. You're so good as well, listening to people that have got the newborn babies because it is such a mad like life experience at that point. And also have you got your new album and stuff like that? Let's plug back. You're too pure, you've not even mentioned your plug-in. We didn't, we didn't know, because we were meant to have you on before which was just before the single came out, right?

That, lads, I sent you the have it until she listened to the song though, so I don't know if that's what happened. Give me the reason. Yeah, that's the single at the moment. There'll be another one and then the album, we haven't got a date for the album but it's coming later in the year and there's all sorts of touring. I'm actually just about to do like my my my my my my my my my music's happening but um yeah I'm trying to be a dad now as well it's mental. Well you're doing a good job mate keep it up. Thank you guys. Cheers James Bay what a lovely bloc James Bay is. Very nice man Rob. Oh what he loves his kid did he bless him? He loves his kid did he bless him?

Yeah I love his kid. That please. Do you know what's funny was? Normally, I'm the one people expect to sort of wind someone up when I was saying, oh, what, your kid can't walk, yeah? But then you went in a hard with the university stuff. I think let's show him who's boss here. This is pretty alpha. Alpha male of the group, Rob. I enjoyed that. Do you know what? I think that's the first time I've seen you be Alpha. Thanks, mate. Went in studs up, early doors. Balls out, squeezed his nuts, Gazer and Vinny Jones. Exactly. Rob, can I be honest? Yeah. Last 10 minutes I really needed a piss and I still need it. Can I go to go to lovely fella. Go see him on tour and listen to his new song. Cheers, bye.