Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S04 EP40: Katherine Ryan (The Return)

Episode Date: June 17, 2022

S04 EP40: Katherine Ryan (The Return) Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) it's the return of our first ever guest on Parenting Hell, the brilliant comedian, Katherine Ryan. Katherine's new TV series 'Backstage with Katherine Ryan' is available to watch now on Amazon Prime. Thanks, Rob + Josh.BIG NEWS.... we're writing a book! ⭐ All the stories we can’t tell on the podcast – in depth.⭐ What it’s like to raise a stiff neck and a loose neck – straight from the horse’s mouth (our parents)⭐ And.. the BIGGEST REQUEST WE’VE EVER HAD FOR THE PODCAST… Hearing from our wives, Rose & Lou. They’ve got a chapter each and YOU can submit your burning questions to them... [e-mail]'s it really like to be a parent? And how come no one ever warned Rob or Josh of the sheer mind-bending, world-altering, sleep-depriving, sick-covering, tear-inducing, snot-wiping, bore-inspiring, 4am-relationship-straining brutality of it all? And if they did, why can't they remember it (or remember anything else, for that matter)?And just when they thought it couldn't get any harder, why didn't anyone warn them about the slices of unmatched euphoric joy and pride that occasionally come piercing through, drenching you in unbridled happiness in much the same way a badly burped baby drenches you in milk-sick?Join Josh and Rob as they share the challenges and madness of their parenting journeys with lashings of empathy and extra helpings of laughs. Filled with all the things they never tell you at antenatal classes, Parenting Hell is a beguiling mixture of humour, rumination and conversation for prospective parents, new parents, old parents and never-to-be parents alike.Find out everything you need to know, including how you could win a pair of tickets to the Parenting Hell LIVE tour & an overnight stay in London here: https://www.bit.ly/ParentingHellBookWe're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK?Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there...ON SALE NOW 14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena19th April 2023 - Nottingham20th April 2023 - Cardiff 21st April 2023 - London (The O2)23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley)28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and member terms apply. Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willickham. Welcome to Parent in Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what is really like to be a parent which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe.

Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hill with... Can you say Rob Peckett? Can you say Josh Whitigum? Good girl. Hi guys, thanks for getting us all through lockdown and for being sexy and relatable while doing it. Here's my two and a half year old Erin giving saying your names ago. This was the one and only attempt as this I was allowed to do before being growled at. We do have another girl at the end of June so we'll be needing more tales of woe to get me through the next 18 months plus from

Alistair and family Ray R.A.E. Originally from King's Langley in Hartford living in Warwick. There we go Robbeck. Lovely. Very nice Erin. Erin Brock Erin, Erin Brockovich. Go any other erin's? Uh, that was one of the most primary school. I once took over a job from a girl called Erin in an accounts department at an office and I was having to do her job and I found a drawful of invoices that hadn't been sorted out and there had to be an emergency meeting. Oh my god that's. Oh. Oh, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Oh, th. Oh, thi. Oh, thr-a, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, throman, thr-a, th-a, th-a, thrown, thro-a, thro-a' thr-a' thr-a' thr-a' thr-a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th. Oh, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr thr thrown, thrown, thrown, thee.a', thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thro', that's incredible. And she just basically just hid them. I love the fact that you're the one who's lifting the lid on it, Rob. Well, that's actually...

Well, no, but yeah, because I found this drawer of stuff going, what needs to happen to this? And they thought that she'd like, swerved a load of work. And then, because Lou also, we used to work together in Lou and she was in, doing my job in another department, she was in me and meeting as well, and Lou had to help me sort it out. And nothing's really changed since then, really. Ha ha ha ha ha! But that was a job. We both did the same job. job and I was on 500 quid a year more than her I was on 17 and a half grand and she was on 17 grand. Do you know what Rob? You're still bringing in

the bacon aren't you? Well she's still a 50K follows an Instagram give it a few years. So only one are you bringing a Papa John sponsorship that's for sure. Stop bringing up Papa John's! So I'm getting what they wanted the bar's the bars of Domino's. Do you know what Domino's pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza? Oh yeah. Pizza Express, yes please, love that. Franco Manco, why not? Oh yeah, come on, home slice, pizza, pilgrims. That's better, we've done them all now. Is there any left? Right. You haven't tuned into Ed Gamble and James A Castor by mistake. This is still parenting, hell.

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And that is why this podcast works. Union JNEMbers who we got? I like that. Jamie JJJ George Josh Casey. Yeah, because why don't they call Union Jay because they all began with JUR. Oh, I've had a fucking howler! Yeah why's Casey in that he needs to travel world with themselves. Casey Johnson. Casey Johnson it's very very tenuous the reason they were Union J. He joined he joined 2016 to 2017. Did he? George

Sali is the main guy. Imagine being a late member of Union Jay what a life. Anyway they'll be on next week I'm lying about his name. We've got no one asthat's good at singing, but this bloat called Jack's just turned up. I could win in Union Jay. You could have been in Union Jay. I can't be in Union Jay. Do you remember when we said to each other before we start recording, let's keep this intro short. Yeah, okay. Okay.

Yeah, okay. Right, Catherine Ryan. You also said, you also said, we just talk, we talk about our kids. We don't fucking, we talk about Union Jane for two minutes. One of the geese of the Union Jay had a severe... Oh, thrown. I don't know which one of us, I don't know which one of us. I don't know which one it was. Not even George Shelley. It was not even George Shelley was supposed to be the Harry Stiles of the group. No, right. Sorry. Okay, here's Catherine Ryan.

This is Catherine Ryan. Welcome back to Parenting Hell. We're very excited to have you back, Catherine. Thank you for having me back. You made us. You launched us. It is an honor and I've had a whole new baby just that I could come back on the show because it's so successful. Oh, it's a great promo opportunity to have a baby. It's a superb bit of promo opportunity. Yeah, so did you have the baby like knowing that this prime show was coming out and you needed something to talk about? Or did it? What came first? The baby delayed the prime show? Actually, the baby delayed the prime show because during my pregnancy I basically wasn't telling anyone because I don't know if you guys know this, but you can't really get insured on any production if you're pregnant. They did.

Yeah, like sometimes if you're important enough, they'll go the extra mile. You know, you'll see Holly Will be pregnant on the voice and that's because she's worth it. But no, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. their, th. th. I's, their, th. I's, th. I's, th. th. th. th. th. th. their, thi, to their, thi, thi, thi, their, th. their, th. I th. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. I I I I I th. I th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, thi. I's, thi. I'm, t. toge. togu. togu. te. te. tell, the. thea. thea. thea. thi. I the. I's worth it. But no, now they're like, uh-uh, we don't insure. They're happy to put that in black and white, too. So did you keep it secret then? I did. I tried to keep it secret. People just thought I was really fat for ages. Lou clocked it. Lou clocked it.

Lou clocked it. keeping it quiet and then you told us and I told it she was like I knew it! Yeah, I had to keep it quiet because I still needed to work to feed my family and I'd been off kind of the whole pandemic so. That's so bad. I know. But then I walked on to set for this I-Tv show ready to mingle. I was eight months pregnant on that and everyone was kind of like cool, tho thi tho- th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho-in, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi. That's thi. That's that's that's that's tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I their their tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole tho-n, the whole that, the whole the whole that. That's that's the whole the whole that's their that their their that that that that that that that that that thateanann. I was toldeann. told-n. I'm thean. theann. I was kind kind kind thean. I was kind thateann. I was kind that th Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so then I wanted to film backstage with Catherine Ryan and I had to tell them I was pregnant. So I told my agent, I told them and they decided to push it back. So actually the baby nearly ruined everything. Oh wow. Oh my god. And you've also, you've taken the baby onto panel shows. Yes. That's an incredible thing to do. Is that stressful? No. But the the the the the th. But th. But th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the That's an incredible thing to do. Is that stressful? No, but the thing is I'm his mother and I never mean to throw you guys under the bus when I say this because I know you're both very hands-on dads but it like no matter how helpful you are it isn't the same and we just have to do physically so to, the same and we just have to do physically to. And I was, to be a told. to. to. to. to. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do, to do, to. to. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, th. th. th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, I'm, I'm, I'm was just really little and he likes to be around me. So I just was like, well, I'll just start bringing in places.

But I mean, I brought him on a few panel shows and he's eight days old and 10 days old and two weeks old, but then, you know, once they get a bit bigger, you can't because they bother everyone. Yeah, when you were like, can't get insured on shows, is that if you're like part of like a long-running series or could you still do like go on a panel show pregnant? Were they allow that or even that? I don't think they will. If you look at the health and safety forms that you fill out, the insurance forms, all of the mask if you're pregnant and if you go in the BBC's insurance website, which I think is quarts, it says like in black might tho' the womb. Any matters of the womb? Yeah, like if your vagina falls off on set, that's it.

And you don't want to let down a production. Like that's the thing. If you have some complication of pregnancy, let's say you are on a sitcom and the whole day gets canceled, yeah, yeah. That they won't be insured. If you had an eye infection and they couldn't film you, that, that, that, that, that, that day would be insured and everyone would get paid go home. But it's so weird, so I just lied.

And I'm not sorry for lying. No. It's the same way as like all those forms have got. Have you ever taken drugs? And imagine the people on telling the 90s? No? No. I can actually do it on line off the table as they click no. Definitely not. I can actually say I've never taken drugs in such a such a square. What was the pregnancy like? Was it an all right one or was it? No, I got really fat actually, which is cool, which is eye opening because I'd had like some experience with pregnancy loss before that. So for this one, I did all this research into avoiding that. And there's a this thing called the Bondi protocol that I think a lot of people don't know about where you take steroids and then this intralipid IV thing every four weeks and apparently it calms your immune system,

but what steroids will also do is turn you into an absolute sumo wrestler. So I gained how many, what is stone? I gained like three stones. There you go. I gained three stone. Really? Blime. In three months, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi this this this thi thi thi this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin thin thin thin thi. thi. thi. thin thin thi. thin thin thin thin thin thin thin th three pounds. There you go. I gained three stone. Really? Blamey. In three months, basically all in my face. And you're telling people you were pregnant. I know. But that was the beginning of your pregnancy when you're usually quite thin because you're sick. I just got so big and with me because I talked about Botoxox and filler and everything else. The whole of the internet was like, well, Catherine's really done it this time.

She's really fucked her face. And I just had to sit there with this like fat Madonna face and be like, yeah. But it didn't bother me. I thought it was really cool because I've been called lots of things. And you know, when people want to say things about my parents, it really doesn't bother me but I had never experienced being called fat and there is a very interesting I mean interesting for me because I only had to experience it you know like as like Katie Hopkins like

just for a minute see what it was like I took a little little tourism into fat but um people are really mean about being fat they're really nasty about it really I think so I think so and they wouldn't have said that if they knew you were pregnant kind of thing, but because they didn't know, they just assumed that you've put on weight and started giving you shit online, not in the street. Not in the street. Either like face lift or too many fillers or fat were the three guesses. Oh, is this on Twitter or was this in the tabs? Both, I think. Didn't bother me though. Didn't bother me though though. I though. I though. I though. I though. I though. I though. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. Not. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. the. thi. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. thi. the. thi. th. was like fascinating. And did you feel like, was it all right to work and stuff during your pregnancy? Because like, you weren't too ill or two kind of. I was a bit ill, but you know me, like I would be on fire and go to work. It's a real problem.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm quite greedy. I'll always show up. And even like almost as a martyrs, the the daughter, v. despite everyone else I'll show up. It's different though because when you with your first, because your daughter's, Violet's older now, she's what, 13, 14, is she? Is that right? Yeah, so my son turns 1 this week

and Violet turns 13 this week. They're like exactly 12 years apart. And then when, because when you had her, because when you had her, you weren when she was young? I mean, I was technically with him, but I was pretty much alone. We'll say that. Yeah. Okay, let's move on from that. But with Bobby, you're sort of living with Bobby, your husband and he's your baby's dad and stuff. And how's that been having like the dad more involved this time? Yeah, it's a whole different world. So when I was expecting by that I was expecting already crossed with Fialet's Dad, didn't like Violet's Dad, didn't get help that I thought I deserved from Bylott's Dad, fine, fine, fine,

planning my exit strategy. And with Bobby, he is like the love of my life. I always loved Bobby since I was 15 years old. He's great. He's home with the baby. So he's like a stay-at home at home at home at home at home at home at home th home th home th home th home th home th home th home th home home home home home home home home home home home home home home home home home home home home home home home home home the the th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. that th. th. th. th. th. th. that that that that that that that that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's home. that's home. that's home. that's home. that's home. that's home. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that that that that that that that that that that that that that, that, that, that's that I that I that I that I that, dad slash professional golfer. And I actually have so much help. And because he's like his son, I think Bobby was kind of scared of the baby. I don't know if you guys felt scared that you were going to do something wrong when you had newborn daughters. Yeah, yeah.

I could tell that he was scared. It's not that he didn't want to help, but he just is so much more involved now that Fred is like this big fat one-year-old who can really communicate with us and it's great. Especially with breastfeeding and stuff you do feel really ostracized from the process because you can't physically can't do that. You just sort of hang around nearby either not doing anything or holding the babies to then give them back to you. Toast, toast and water. Yeah, I found it a lot easier to sort of connect with my daughter when we were bottle feeding her because Lou didn't breastfeed as well in the first time but when they get to one and 18 months old and they're they're like got a personality and they communicate and that's just an absolute

game change because then you can form your own bond in that way which I think Bobby must be loving at the moment. Yeah and I can really tell. I mean, he's like the white Earl Woods. He takes Fred to the golf course all the time and like teaches him how to golf and Fred is such a toxic male. Like he looks very today. He's like really fat and like pure white and he has little parted haircut and he just grunts. He's like, uh uh, and then his second word was like round and around and around for wheels. And like he doesn't even, like, we say that he calls me dad's wife, because he sees me and he goes, da da da, da, I'm like, he's trying to say dad's wife. He just is a misogynist. Ha ha ha. will sound like for your business. It's having to spend to power your scale with no preset spending limit. Redefine possible with business platinum.

That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and Conditions apply. Visit Amx. to business platinum. Do you think it's nice to have a boy? Because obviously, you and violence relationship show so strong. And you've been together for so long on your own you two as a pair. Another sort of younger sister coming in could have maybe upset the apple car a bit more than a boy? Yeah. Was that a concern? Well I think Violet was

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Do you find it different with the genders? Yeah, I think he's much more rough and tumble. I suppose. There's much more of a pair and contrast. toaaaaaaaaaaa in toa in toa. to ca. to ca. to ca. to ca. to ca. to ca. to c, to c, to c, toe. toe. toe. toe. thoompour. thiolomeomea, thiolus. thiolomea, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. V. thi. V. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi.v, thi.v, thi.v, thi.voen, thi.voe.voe. V. I is thi. I's is thi. I's is thi. I's is thi. I's is thioloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo if that makes sense. Yeah. Like, because we've just been through, um, a penis is so much more difficult to clean than a vagina. Do you think? I do think. There's so many different crevices, like so many overhanging bits. Well Josh, I hate to say this because it always gets me in trouble with mom's net. But, you know, you got got to potty train them and then you don't have that issue. I know, I know you've told me this before. Have you started potty training Fred yet? No, I have finished potty training.

Fred, he was potty training. He was pothed. What? could essentially potty train his son if he wanted to if he could be bothered do you know I mean Catherine? If he could be bothered. I'm talking about paying it on me. Just say no Josh you could do this if you could be bothered. So is it your friend eight months old potty trade? Yes so look I think it's too late now because if I started potty training Fred now I don't think that he would cooperate. Right, okay. So because I potty trained my children almost from birth, it's very controversial. I don't care.

What it means is that I'm not sat there cleaning diarrhea out of any four skins, you know? Hello, welcome to my world. Just did something this morning, actually, Oh no. Because, in the words of Rob Beckett, if I could be bothered, I wouldn't be in that situation. I'm just saying, all I'm saying is Catherine could have been bothered and she was filming backstage with Catherine Ryan available on Prime now.

All episodes dropped. Is that a good plug? Yeah. Did Amazon want us to drop it afterthe four-skin diarrhea comment as you can. That's good PR. So take us through this. Take us through this. All right, so it's no judgment and it's not because you can't be bothered.

It's because you are socialized in Western culture and there's this 9 to 5 work week and you're very busy and we're told that we can't potty train our kids till they're Right. Big nappy. Big nappy have got us by the absolute. Maybe it's a nappy conspiracy theory. Sorry, Catherine, for stopping you there. I got excited. When we put them in nappies, you effectively train them to go in nappies. You don't think you're training I just start putting them on the potty and you read them a story or and then I say like, oh, you need to pee pee pee on the potty.

And then if they accidentally go, which they invariably will, then you go, yeah, well done. And then you can take them off and you put them without anir face when they need poo. Or you can kind of learn their schedule so Fred would go in the morning so as soon as he wakes up every day we put him on the toilet and we have this potty seat that goes over our toilet. We read him some books. He always pooos in the morning. He's on the same schedule as his dad. I will put an apie on him if we're out and about in case he has a wee or something, but he has not pooed in an api for honestly like almost four or five months. And we have most wees in the potty as well because they just learn that like that's where they go. You don't even have to do a lot of teaching.

And if he fusses or he kind of that she needed the potty, but Fred kind of refuses most sign language. But I can tell when he needs to go, I put him on the potty, he's on the potty, he's on the pot. He's on a schedule. He only poos the once in the morning, always in the potty. And then most pees. Like I've been playing. I just, I'm like, like, like, like, like, like, like, a shit because like I said yeah his foreskin is sparkling clean. That's the review we all want. How did you find out about this? I didn't I just did it with Violet intuitively because I was like I wouldn't like to go to the bathroom like sat

down on the floor it would be really weird a difficult to do I could just tell by the look in her face so I just put her on the potty and then and then and then then then... I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the the the the the the the the the th. I. I the th. I th. I th. I th. I the to the to the th. I the the the th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. th. th. th. I. I. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the. I. I. I. I. I. I the.. I the.. I the. I. I. I the. the. I the. the. the. I the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the could just tell by the look in her face so I just put her on the potty and then I started reading about it and there is loads of literature about it. It's called elimination communication which I didn't even know but in like the Eastern world they do it all the time. I mean either they in certain rural communities they can't afford nappies or it's just normal. I mean you would not believe the shit storm of hatred that I get for doing this. But I don't get why the hate? Because you're not saying everyone should do it. If you don't do it, you're stupid. It's just something that you've done and you recommend. I think people are, people are quite spicy.

It's all coming from inside. It's their own problems. Yeah, they're very, you know. They feel inferior as parents. done, they also think you're the problem rather and it's their own self, you know, then beating themselves up. Because it doesn't matter if you don't. If you do it when they're free, who cares? But they're just, you know, if you can't be bothered, I'm joking. I'm joking, I'm trying to wind them up now.

Look, if you want to be a lazy, stupid, fat, and I'm, if to, if to, if to, winding them up. Yeah, they will. They'll come from me right. No, but I think that's fair. You're not saying anyone should do it. You don't have to do it, but you can, you know, it's an option to try. They can all do it. I didn't think that, I thought Violet was special, but now that's the threader tho, I'm, I'm goes to nursery, he's gonna be the absolute legend in that toddler room. The one-year-old that can go to the toilet on his own, will be the absolute boss of it?

This is a thing though, this is why it doesn't work for a lot of families. Because I don't think nursery workers would have the time to sit because they have to books in the morning. You know, we're very lucky that we have the luxury of time to do that. Also, you're getting him into reading on the toilet early, which is one of life's great pleasures is reading on the toilet. And so you're associating that with him straight away. He loves it. I was going I think it's a weird one. First time around we did loads to my daughter. We had a party. It meant nothing to her. Second time around, we were like, he's not gonna know.

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to run off to her show shortly, but she's the only guest at friend's birthday. I'm making him a gluten-free, dairy-free, nearly sugar-free, coconut cream cake and I put some decorations up. to the gluten-free, three-free, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th. I. I-so-so-free, and I'm thi-so-so-so-so-sooome-and-and-in, I'm thi-soa-soa-and-I thi-and-and-and-soa-and-and-and-and-so, I'm th. I'm th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I I I I, I I I I, I I I, I I I I, I, I, I I, I-in, I-in, I-in, I-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s. I'm tho-s. I'm like tho'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s i'm like like tho'-s, How come you've gone for all those gluten-free, sugar-free, dairy-free stuff just so, does he off all that? Well he had a bit of eczema and it's frustrating because did any of your kids have eczema? Yeah, my daughter's still got it. Yeah, I had an exmer as a kid. I mean, it comes and goes and the creames the cream, and it gets rid of it. We've done all the elimination diet stuff and it hasn't really. Well my daughter was no dairy and then we'd have to do the dairy ladder. You've done the dairy ladder? The milk ladder? Milk ladder. Yeah, but basically if you can't have dairy and they're off dairy, you get them back on so you start with like a digestive biscuit and then work your way up and like midway points of muffin until the muffin. So they're the their their they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their they're their their their they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, uh. Oh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they. We've, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, is down in a pint of milk, just like from the other. But then we've done that a couple of times, we got to muffin just

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And is he in the middle? Fred in the middle? Or Bobby's off? Bobby's off. So Bobby's had sleep through nights the whole way. Bobby's had one year of sleep yeah and I've had no sleep so he doesn't do any of the nights because you're there does he not come in and take you no? Zero nights ever. Oh my god what is Bobby's life's outrageous? Just plays golf and goes to sleep what the

fucks he think he is? You guys we were all all single at the same time, you know, you fucked up. I am a really nice wife. People think I'm like this like totally, people think I'm high meanest. They think I'm really mean. I'm a nice, nice wife. Too nice, Catherine, that's unbelievable. And is he sleeping through? Bobby, yeah, he's fine. Don't worry about Bobby. Why are you doing 12 hours, mate? Fred does not sleep through, but he sort of sleeps through. So when he was really young, kind of like four months, he would wake up and have an hour of, like party time. And then when he was younger than that, he would cry sometimes in the night and that's really stressful isn't it? So now all he does is he sort of wiggles for milk. I have to feed him maybe two or three times in the night. Right. But he's too stone. I mean he's enormous

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Wow. It wasn't a danger pin. You know, the other ones you can buy. They really died out. They got launched at the same time, the safety pin and the danger pin. And it just didn't really hit with a public time to mention that on backstage with Catherine Ryan, all episodes available on Prime Video. Sure.

My son was only a couple weeks old and I had huge tits. I was breastfeeding like the village. So how did that work? So you're filming backstage with Catherine Ryan all of the episodes available on Amazon Prime now. And for people that don't know, it's a stand-up show but also it's filmed backstage. So you get to see all the comedians kind of interacting backstage. And so were you, Rob your daughter's here. I know my daughter just turned I don't say waves. Hello. Hello. You got all the

right I've got to finish doing this. What do you want anything? She's so lovely. She's beautiful in a minute. Just come and speak to mommy and I can take you in a minute. She's saying, why did you lock mommy out in the garden? Why is mommy crying again? She's so cute, Rob. She's lovely. I never get to see her. I don't see your children enough. I know, it's bad, isn't it. new show backstage of Catherine Ryan. Yes. So how did you how did you balance those filming days with a two-week-old baby? How was that? He was actually maybe

seven weeks old. I am exaggerating but I just ferried breast milk back and forth in a career. I was pumping backstage. They didn't show any of it. I was like you could show it if you want. So he was back home with Bobby and you was just sending milk to him. Yeah so Bobby you know Bobby does long days the the the to to the to the to. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to. the the to. the to to to to the the the the to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t. te. to. to. to. to. to. Bobby does long days sometimes. Those were long days filming, but then he gets to sleep at night. That's our arrangement. Fair enough. And that was when Bobby was peak afraid of Fred as well. So those were tough days. But it was worth it. How did you feel like, because obviously the premise of the show, which is really interesting and it's great to watch, because all, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th.. And, th. And, th. And, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. th. th. th. is, th. is, th. is, th. is, th. is, th. is, th. is, th. is, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, threat, threat, threat, that, threat, the. And, that, threat. And, that, that, that, that,. It's not like you just have to get ready, get you like your makeup on and you go out and you do your stand-up. You're being filmed nonstop and there's a pressure for you to talk to all the guests because you're the host backstage. And like, you know, for example, Lou, I don't think after seven weeks of giving birth, their camera crew filming her for 12 hours, their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their... And to to to to their. And to to to to to their to be their their their. their their their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. And their. And, their.... And, their... And, their their.. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their their their their their their their to be toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, their their their their their their their their the send you crazy about the pressure of being filmed and what you was looking like?

Because everyone, all women feel quite vulnerable after they've given birth. Their bodies completely changed. I know, I mean I didn't mind at the time. I think you get also this burst of energy after you give birth, so I went back to work. The first thing I filmed for a different streaming service. Fred was eight days old. And I can hear it, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, th, I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, and then I think I get tired when it's all done. And I can hear it. Oh hang on.

Sorry, my daughter is ringing me. I'll take it. I'll take it. No, she's like. It's the only podcast. You can do you do. It's a good. All right.

I'll have to put her on. . real life. You're trying to work from home with kids. No mind putting on. I'm putting on. I'm sorry. I didn't know you're working. What are you doing, sis? I'm just in my room and I'm speaker and can I, we go out please. But you know that your friend's being picked up for her show shortly? How shortly? And an hour and a half. Yeah, we won't be that long. the entire West End of London by this girl missing her show, you know, you can't do that, that showbiz. I know, mom, I'm not going to be like let down the entire West End. She's not going to miss her child. All right. Well, listen, you guys literally have one hour and make sure that it's okay with her mom that her mom's not coming a little bit early because, you know, I have a responsibility to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. I, th. I, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, to is, to is, to is, to is, to is, to is, to is, to is, to is, to is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is th. is th., th. is that, that, that, that, that, the is that, that, that, that, that, that, to to the a that, is to that, is to that, is that, is that, is the a text her mom. All right, I love you. I love you. Bye.

You see this? Unbelievable. She's, she's just, she's just, she's not just go out in the street on her own. Oh my God. I'm panicking about mine. Yeah, they go out. They take the bath.

Do you know what? when you hear the voice you're expecting a Canadian accent. I think she has a little twang now but that is sadly from being on Tick-Tock so often not from me. Fair enough. How is it having a 13 year old? I love it and they take the bus and we have everyone in the family on Find My Friends so you can see where she is physically on a map and it's not far. It's great. I mean Violet has always been just like a friend of mine, even when she was three, she was so self-sufficient and really mature and so I mean I don't worry about her at all and she's not a dick crucially. Yeah, that's a big victory isn't it when they're not a dick. Although can I say planning her birthday party, if you have any listeners who have older children, they will hopefully understand what I'm talking about. I was livid. I'm ringing up all these venues. I don't have parties of my own. I don't do much, but I put genuinely a wedding budget into all

of Violet's birthday parties. These are like grand catered affairs. I have an event planner, I have a decorator, I have a DJ. It's always like a thing. So I had no problem ever planning by those parties until this year. I'm ringing around and all these venues are like, yes, we have availability, oh, it's for a 13 year old, no we won't do the party. No. Really? What? Because it's too likely to go off?

Yes. No. that infuriates me is that it creates situation where teenagers aren't allowed to exist in their own communities. They're not welcome anywhere. They can't go into a sweet shop without being followed. One at a time, isn't it? One at a time or two at a time. Yeah. And you can't even have a birthday party for them. And I was pushing these people to be like, what is the place. We just we do not have a... 13 year olds. This is it. They said any teenage parties we will not have them. And I said, these are young scholars. They go to a private girl's school down the road. I was like, they have ponies. They play the violin. Like, what the fuck do you think it's going to happen? And you just wait. Because this party, this party. thirty. And I. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. T. their. T. their. T. their. T. T. their. their. their. their. their. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They's. They's. They's. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. their. their. this this party Saturday night and I found a venue who will accept violets party probably I will be honest because of who I am and I cannot wait. Where is it where about you don't say

the actual location what kind of place is it is it like a sort of a hall or is it like a restaurant or bar or what it's like a North London venue space that aren't usually anything other than you know a purpose built venue space and they have a light up dance floor and I think they do a lot of bar mitzvahs. This is the other thing, you can have a botmizva or a bar mitzvah, which is essentially a Jewish 13 birthday party. Yeah, but you can't have a 13th birthday party.

So you can celebrate as long as the foreskin's getting snipped. That's not what happens at a butt-mits. Isn't it? I thought that's what barbit saws. You celebrate that happening. But I've been doing it all wrong. That happens earlier, Rob, doesn't it? Does it? Can you imagine on the day of your 13th birthday, you invite all your friends? I thought that was it. I thiii that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was. that was. that was. that was. that was that was that was. that was that was that was. that was that was that was. that was. that was that was. that was. that was that was. that was that was thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that that that that that that that that't it? Isn't that what it is? No, they circumcised a boy at his brist when he's like eight days old. Right, okay. Oh, it's a coming of age ritual.

Rob, do you, Rob, was going, why are all these kids looking forward to their balminton? It's going to be absolutely awkward for them. That's going to be carnage. Just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just to get to get to get to get to get to ask Rob. Did you think that you had to do it? They were doing it in front of everyone? Or do you know they went behind a guy. I felt like that that happened earlier in the morning at the doctors and then they had a party afterwards to sort of be like, look mate, he's off now. But they do that when they're younger. they're not knowing and gone when's it's snipped. their toe. I their their poor sod. He's just pubed up, now he chopped his dick. But they do that when they're younger, fair enough, now I know. That was another issue actually with Fred because whether you're Jewish or not,

all the boys in Canada, when I was growing up, were circumcised. It's a very North American thing. And for Bobby to move to this country of thapsesesesese, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. to to th. to to to to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to to be, to be, to be, to be, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the, the, too.. too, too, too, too, they.e, too, too, too, too, too, toe, toe, toe, to move to this country and understand that I did not want to circumcise our infant son, he was floored by that. He was like, what? Really? Yeah, because he'd never even thought of an alternative. He said, he'll be bullied in the showers. I said, what by who? All the other Forskin guys? What's the advantage of losing it? What's the kind? Is it a cleanliness thing? Why? It was surely like if you you you you you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th.the kind, is there a reason? Is it a cleanliness thing? Why? But surely like if you, like pretend my dick's garden furniture, you put it out in all weathers, it's gonna get dirty. If you put a cover over it, it's gonna stay clean. So why remove the natural garden furniture cover for your cob. I don't know, we put a cover

on our garden table and it's coming snails now. I'm the cats are pissed all over it. Like I'm not saying it's a direct analogy but you know. Well I think where it comes from like the ancient origin of it is I think there was sand and it was really hot and it made sense then I don't know. Yeah but when I'm all the foreskin ain't the problem. I'm not like oh I'm sweating buckets here I can't stop like dripping off my nose. It it it it the the the the the to to to the to to to the to the to to the to the to the the to to the the the th th th th th th th th th th th thoes thoes thoes thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus the's the's th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th th th th th th is th th th th th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thus thus thus toeses toes toes toooes toooes tooa toes tooes toes toye tipe tipe thususususus. thus. I'm not like, oh I'm sweating buckets here, if I know I can love this fall. I've got, I can't stop like dripping off my nose. It's the foreskin. Oh yeah, I've still got a foreskin. You're not, oh you look all right, you've got, you've been taken out of the sandstone. Then if it's sandy for a foreskin. I don't know. So you're going to keep it. You're the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoes. I'm dripping. I'm dripping the thoes. I's dripping thoeskin dripping thoeskin dripping thoeskin dripping thoes. I'll dripping the the the the the the the the the the the the it was Sandy and I wouldn't at the sandstone. Gagging for a foarskin. So you're going to keep his then or does Bobby not bothered now but he just assumed that you were going to get it taken off? Yeah he's not bothered now but he did assume

because that's all he's ever known. I mean it's interesting what culture teaches us with the potty training with the foreskinity party party party you just do what everyone does. And so with a 13 year old, are you finding you're having to put in like obviously the restaurants are worried about her behavior, but you finding she's kicking back against you and she's going, she started going out on the, not on the lash, but like, you know, rebelling it. Not at all. I mean, the only thing I can say about Violet is that she, she's very charming, she dodges her chores, she doesn't really have to do anything. If we didn't feed her animals, they would be dead. But her behavior and her demeanor is like kind and respectful and lovely and she's just chill.

The thing is Catherine, that's what you are as well. You have a sort of outward persona of like being a bit harsh and giving people shit in your stand-up, but you are an incredibly kind, thoughtful person and I think everyone would agree with that in the circuit. I think that's why you've got so many people to agree to your show and be filmed backstage because they trust you, where there'll be a lot of other comedians that you're going, I, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I're thi, and I'm not thi, and I'm not thi, and I'm thi, and I'm thi, and I'm thin, and I'm not thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thin, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, thi, I think that's your personality and obviously violets too. But I do think kids rebel against like if you're really strict or really square and really straight and quite stiff-net with your kid they will rebel but really. Don't call you. No look don't panic Josh. Don't panic yet. I'd say to be fauillain. To be honest. Yeah. But I think you're careful if, if Violet did say something that was a bit like rude or a bit edgy, you sort of laugh along with her. And then no one really wants to be laughing along with their parent. You want to be saying something that their parent kicks back against if you're rebelling.

We love when she's rude and edgy. Like, if she's funny, no matter how rude it is, then we laugh. Like I can't even remember what she. I to. to to to to to to their. their. th is. their. th is. th is. th is their. th is th is th is thin, I's. thin, I thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thian thian their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. the. the an the an thea' thea' tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' thir that she said. She always makes me laugh. And she's rude to us, but like in a joking way, and she knows that that's loud. Yeah, exactly, my youngest, she watched a Tick Tock with me where it was like, I want a G with the Big Boys, that that tick Tock. And she just says, big boy all the time. She's like, come't you dare talk to me like that? Have some respect for your, it's like, no, she's being funny and take the piss, but it doesn't matter that she's for and you're the dad, just except that it's quite funny.

Did you read that Pete Dockertie interview? There was an interview with him yesterday in the way. And that's what I'm telling myself because I do not put down any boundaries. Okay. Me neither. That's what I'm telling myself. Well, I love about you Josh, you can see the panic in your eyes of your eyes of like one comment you're sort of worrying about it now already of like, oh God, if my daughter's a naughty. It's all over. It's all all all. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. the the to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to me. to to to to to to to th. th. th. the. the. the. the the. to to the th to to to th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. didn't even start rebelling till after that. He got straight A's at A-level. Can you believe that? So what you're implying is there's always time to panic.

There's always time to panic, Rob. You should never stop worrying. Everything can go wrong at any point. Remember that. You're never comfortable. Catherine, obviously you've had Fred at shows and on tour, because you did to to to to to to to to to to their to their their to their to their their their their their their their their their their their their to their to their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their tipe. today. today. today. tea. today. today. tea. today. times. times. times. times. times. times. shows and on tour with you because you did your big tour and you seem to cope with it really well, but wasn't there a nightmare journey to Scotland on the train? How was that? Well, did you regret taking the train to Scotland? That is a beast of a journey, isn't it? Yeah, I usually love this train to Scotland. I always prefer to to take to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their try., try.e try.e try. try.e. try. try. try. try. try. try. too. tooe tooe too. I toe toe toe and the best. But no, I think I was over ambitious with Fred because I traveled around loads with Violet when she was young, but I was also young and she just, if she had me,

she was, she was fine, but Fred's a little bit more precious, you know, he was like, uh, you know, my mom is a middle class white lady and my parents are older and I want to be in my own bed. And he just, he doesn't like the travel and he doesn't like hotels and unfamiliar environments. So touring with him was a bit tough and the train home from Glasgow on a Sunday took like seven and a half hours. Oh my God. And you would think a train is fine. For Violet, you could pick her up, carry around. I had her toys out, I had her books.

For Fred, he just wouldn't sleep on the train, wanted off that train. You know, trains their announcements every five seconds, the doors open loud thing. And there was no where to escape. And we were those parents who were holding a screaming infant. He was three months then and he just cried for half of it I would say on and tho. Oh, thro. Three. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their train, train. train. train. train. train's train. train. train, train, train, train, train, their thra. their their their their, taking them on tou. Did you keep your call in that situation? Yeah, because you don't have a choice really. And he would stop, you know, we would do, I think everyone could see that we were doing literal gymnastics, like everything we could do to stop him crying. And he would stop and start again. There was just no respite. But again, luckily I have my husband. th. th. th. th. th. thu. thu. I, I thu. thu. I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu, I thu, I would thu, I thu, I thu, you would thu, you would thu, you would thu, you would thu, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,, two people working on a crazy baby instead of one, I mean, it was incredible to be able to hand him off and go into a carriage where I wasn't anyone's enemy.

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and demanded that he be christened, which is fine. You know, it matters a lot to my family. And it was a lovely brunch. So he could be christened. The family will stay in cork. five hours out to Belfast do my show five hours back that night three hours out to Dublin do my show three hours back yeah but that's what he's been christened yeah I don't that bothered but he just wanted him your dad wanted him christian I'm like I don I'm like I'm the priest stands there and he goes he says all the things like do you promise to raise your children in a Catholic Church you like I do he goes do you reject do you do you do you to reject to reject do to reject do you to to to to to to to to you you to to you to you to you you you you you to to you to you you to to you to to you you you to to the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th the the the try try try try try try the the the the the the the that that they the their the the the and all his trickery, I'm like, oh, okay.

Rob beef sat there going, when they're cutting off this foreskin? This foreskin bit is taken his time, isn't it? I always thought, where do they go? If there's a big sort of burial pit for fourskins or they're just all thrown away separately. But just sort of, I just think of a? Just a little bit. My mind goes straight to how could I use that in like making my face tighter? Where could I get a sweet, sweet? Just use it to, like, just pin it up there, just two little four skins. Yeah, baby stem cells in my neck? Yes, please. Did you do anything with placenta and stuff like that? Yeah, it all kicked off with the placenta company actually because I had that that 't know, I just feel like you, you're like, I have problems with like DPD delivering

some Lego and you're like, I've got the placenta guys, the light up dance floor company won't have the party. What happened with the placenta crew? I had a placenta crew and I had also a cord blood banking crew. So they do this other thing now where they can take the cord blood and they store it for ever and ever and then it might help your child in the future to get stem cells like cure diseases and stuff. Yeah, it's really cool. So I had these separate companies and I wanted the placenta freeze dried and made into tablets that I could take. But everything was scheduled. Because I was a geriatic the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the separate separate separate separate the thful free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free free. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to freeze. to freeze. to freeze. to freeze. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to the the the the the could take but everything was scheduled because I was a geriatric pregnancy which is a hurtful term. Is that an actual term for what you are or do you just say that? No over 35 year classified a geriatric pregnancy. Oh that's degrading you don't need that. That's not good for morale is it? No it's bad for morale. That's terrible like with all that's all that's tho that that's that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's not good that's not good that's not good that's not good that's not good that's not good that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good good. that's not good. that's that's that's that's that's not. that's not. that's not. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that's not. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. I. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. that's not good. that's not with all that's going on when you're pregnant, you don't need that like, because it'll be on a bit of paper as well, like it'll surprise you in an email,

wouldn't it? Oh, I'm that am I? Geriatric. It's official, it's on all the paper, yeah. So, it's official. Yeah, I wanted to have the baby at home and I'm over 35. Just say that. So then I went to the finest hospital that I could. I went where Princess Diana had her babies and Kate Middleton had her babies. Oh. Because I know I panicked. Why not? Thank you. But then I met the consultant there and he was really nice and he said we can't even take any chances on when the baby to the baby. So he said, he was about to to to to to go about to go about to go about to go about the to go about to go about to go about to go about the the the to go about their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the baby. the baby. the baby. the the baby. the the the the the the the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. tod. tod. t t today. t t today. t today. t today. t today. today. today. t today. said, you have to have the baby on this specific day. You come into the hospital, I give you drugs to start your labor. That's when you had the baby. So I thought great.

So I had the placenta guy ready for that day, I had the placent guy ready for that day, I had the today today, the day, today, to be ready, the the today, today, the today, the the the today, the the the today, the the today, the today, the the today, today, today, today, the today, today, the the tho, tho, to have to have to have to be ready to be ready to be ready to be ready to be ready to be ready, I had the cord, I had the cord, I had the cord, I had the cord, I had the cord, the cord the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the today, I I was, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, t baby so quickly the day before, almost at home. And so Bobby sped through Sunday London traffic to like try to get me to this hospital, which is miles away. Like it's not near our house, it's just the fancy hospital. So we got there. No one was there, no placenta guy, no doctor, no anesthetist. I had no drugs. Yeah, I was there for nine. To get discount? No. Oh, bastards. And they're supposed to bring you champagne an afternoon tea. But they didn't bring me that because it was a Sunday and they were like,

nobody has a baby on a Sunday. I want you help. I got no drugs and I wanted drugs. And I wanted drugs. I almost had violent in a car too. So I had no drugs drugs to drugs drugs drugs a car too, so I should have known. So I had no drugs, no refund, no doctor was there. The placenta guy was nowhere to be found. So Bobby's trying to ring all these people.

And they got there late and I was like, my placenta has been in this mini fridge. And I was like, I was kicking off. fridge. Yeah. Like just like the little mini fridge that they, yeah. Like a drinks fridge. Yeah. So just wrapped it up and put it in there like sort of something from the butcher. Right, that's exactly what it was. The midwife was really nice actually. She's like I'll wrap up this placenta for you and hopefully your placenta guy can get here before it goes off. Yeah. Well it just shows though doesn't prepare and plan everything you can have like extra disposable income to spend on going private but it doesn't automatically mean that it will be less stressful and less hard work it's just is what it is in it that is what it is it's that's what it totally and thea that's what it is like an to the the the the the the. that's another lesson in oh you're not in the try to the best and do that and it'll all be lovely and fine and brilliant but it's not really it is what it is and you just have to hope for the best and

And surrender to it really how long was you in there for nine minutes? What? Yeah. You got in there and then within nine minutes the baby was out? Bladie out. And then you went to go straight home? Well, I wanted to go straight home because I turn you know I say all I say I say I say all say all say all say all say all say all say all say all say all these these these these these these these these these these these the the the the the they. I say all say all say all say all say all say all say all say all say all say all say all say all say all say all say all th th they. I say all say all say all th they. they. I they. I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. I'm th. I say all th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. and poppy was like well the Netherlands are playing football so let's just stay in the room and watch this and then he's like you can just stay safer for the baby they'll check the baby in the morning we already paid for the room and even the midwife was like come on you already paid for the room oh we had a baby you had a baby you had oh oh he you the you had oh oh you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had a the the the he could just hold a baby and watch all the euros. No, Rob, it's not good. That's what I had, mate.

Well, I was about to say you don't sleep during the euros, but Bobby did. Oh, wow. That was a brutal, a brutal nine minutes. It was, but it was good. I wouldn't have it any other way. It's great to have a baby. So I just regret being in such deep denial when I was in labor because it only took three hours start to finish my first construction to like when he was born.

And I'm very, so like I've learned that hyper independence is like a trauma reaction from people letting you down in your life. And I definitely have that. And so I locked myself in my room, and I was meant to take my daughter to muck out the pony. And I was like, Bobby was like, I think you're having the baby. And I was like, no, everyone leave me alone.

Go take Violet to muck out the pony. I'll be fine. I'll be fine. So they left. And then when they came back, it was trouble. And I was like, I'm not leaving. And Bobby's like, you need to leave. And I was like, I'm not leaving this house. And Bobby, like, I know he dragged me to the car. And then like ran red lights and everything. And he got there nine minutes. Lou's like, Lou's you like, and then she was fine, and then,

I was like, and then, then, I went, look, no, do you need to just rest? Anyway, I went, look, no, do you need to, do you need to just rest? Anyway, I went, to trampolin, the room room room room room room room room room room room trampo-aiiiiiiiiiiiiii-a, thii-a, thiii-a, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's just, it's, it's, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, th. It's, th. It's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th. th. th. th. th. to have to go to hospital, you're like doubling over in pain. She had pancreatitis. She had pancreatitis. Oh my God. That's a joke. But I think you're quite similar like that. You're so like super independent and get on with things and it'll be fine, just do it, just do it. But sometimes you've got to listen to your body and to have a bit. You know, ironically you could have their their their their their their thrown ironically, ironically, think the the, thrown ironically, the, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I th, I thi, I thin, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I th, I th, I, I th, I th, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I the, I thin, I thin, I the and you're thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I the an sums you up. I know. That would have been tight. Series two of backstage of Catherine Ryan. You actually deliver the baby and then go out on stage and do a routine about it. I would do it. I'm a stunt queen. I would love it if that gets viewers.

But so it's all on Amazon Prime, is that right? Yes, worldwide. Yes, you can. So you get the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. toe. toe, toe, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be back, to be, to be back, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tooa.a.a. toea. toe. toe. toe. of people who don't think they can find it in New Zealand and Australia and America in Canada. Yes you can. So you get to see the comedians do their show but also what they're chatting about backstage Jimmy Carl's on it I'm on it Tom Allen, Sean Walsh, Nish Kumar it's great like Judy Love I think Judy loves on it as well isn't she? Oh Judy loves on it. Jeff Norkot's on it. Jeff Norcott. Jeff Norcott is brilliant on it as well. Every episode. Yeah, it's a great show, so make sure you watch it. Thank you very much, Catherine. It's an absolute pleasure. Do we do the final question now? It's been easier to do for you, which is what's the one thing, we didn't have this question when you first did it. What's the one that thoys. What's the one that that thoys Bobby the thoys Bobby the thobey thobey that anno anno anno anno anno anno anno anno anno anno anno anno annoys Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby that annoys Bobby that annoys bo annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that annoys that that that that that that that annoys that annoys that annoys that that that that that that that that that that that's annoying that that that that's annoying that that that that that that that that that's that that's the the the the the the the the the that annoys. Bobby. Bobby that annoys. Bobby that annoys. Bobby does boboys. Bobby does boboys. Bobby does annoys. Bobby does annoys. Bobby does annoys. Bobby does annoys that annoys that annoys. Bobby does annoys. Bobby does annoys. Bobby does annoys. that annoys annoys that annoys annoys annoys annoys annoys that annoys annoys that annoys that we normally say you haven't brought up yet but I imagine you have but what's the one that does your head in about the way Bobby parents? I haven't really brought it up with him.

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Well, that situation's ever come up. Right, now, we'll be back on Tuesday with more chat. Bit of fun, isn't it? Oh, see you on Tuesday. Bye.