Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S04 EP6: Adam Hills

Episode Date: February 11, 2022

S04 EP6: Adam Hills Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant comedian, presenter of The Last Leg, and author - Adam Hills. Adam's fantastic new ki...ds book 'Rock Star Detectives' is available now. And yes you heard it right, we are very excited to announce we are doing two HUGE live shows in early 2023 - Manchester Arena (Friday 14th April) and London 02 (Friday 21st April) and tickets go on pre-sale exclusively to Parenting Hell mailing list members at 10am on Wednesday 16th February at 10am. Sign up to the mailing list below to get a link on the morning of the 16th before they go on general release - they went quick last time so set an alarm!! parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com Thanks - Rob and Josh xxxIf you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.ukTWITTER: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Nisprosso. Discover a world of possibilities with or without milk. Visit Nisproso.C.A. to learn more or a Nesproso boutique near you. Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Widdickham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping.
Starting point is 00:01:13 And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing. Hello you are listening to Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Whittakum. I did it this time. It's a very special intro before our guest this week Adam Hills is on and that's a great chat. Very interesting, isn't it Josh? He's a... Yeah, sorry, I'm looking around just because um... What's that, mate? Well, uh, just before I started, we were just recording the interview with Adam Hills before we recorded this at 9 a.m.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Stop ruining the illusion. What you're doing? Stop opening up. It's not live. I sat down on my computer, something else completely at 9am, right? And a roof would come around to check a leak at 5 to 5, to 5, to 5, to 5, to 9, to 9, to, to, the, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. tho, tho, thoom, th. th, the th, the the the the the the the the the the the interview, the interview, the interview, the the interview, the the interview, the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the th....... And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. We, th. We, th. We's, tho, tho, thoom. And, thoooooooooooooomooooomorrow, to to tooomorrow, thooooto nine and I said I'll leave you to it and just let me know what it is and come back you know he was just coming around to check it out. This feels like you know an old-aid pension and they get scammed and they're trying to explain it to their younger grandchildren and you're in the
Starting point is 00:02:16 front room they had nine grand down and they're all tired and confused it's a hopher've just looked out my window. He's just waved at me. He's ripping bits off my roof, Rob. Why is he ripping bits off? He's supposed to be reported? I don't know tiles have come off Rob. He wasn't here to repair it. He's just here to check it out and he's just gone straight on in to do it. Though he can't he must be looking up the window and ask? Pull it up and ask him, how's it going, mate? What, what, what, what, what, you reckon? That's the roof looking? Obviously, you can't really see anything, so I started stripping some slates out.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Oh, no. Right. And when I started moving about, there's like the slates underneath or broken. Oh, no no, no, no, no, no, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the the, the, the th. th. th. th. th. tho, how, how, tho, how, how's tho, how, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. th. th. the th. the th. the th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the threat. threats, what's, what's like the slates underneath, all broken. Oh God. It's all damp under here. Oh no. So yeah, this is kind of getting in in various places. So is it a big job? No, no, no. I've just been a bought with like 20-odd slates.
Starting point is 00:03:14 So I'm going to change a few slates and get that good podcasting? Is that good podcasting? Yes! That was so fun. It was just a really wind, like, literally a window into your life. Oh, God. Oh, no. It was just a window, like, literally a window into your life.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Oh, God. Oh, no. Is it a big deal? It was it, a man panicking going from zero to 10 within about two, two, two, two. Seems like a nice guy though. Yeah, he's good, didn't he? Do you know, how I got him? He's the roofer for my daughter's nursery. Oh really? I want it in yesterday morning. They've got an assigned roofer. Well I said, I said, do you know what, something weird? I need an emergency roofer.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And they said, our roof is here today. I couldn't believe that. They said, they said, here's his number. So I, they were like, he's going to come in later. And then I phoned him up. And I stood in the street. I recognize your voice, you Josh Willickham? Yeah. Like, then he said, he said, I can see you, look up, and I looked up and there was a mountain on a roof waving at me. This is like the start of a tinder swindler.
Starting point is 00:04:34 He seems like a nice guy. They've got a good recommendation. I'm sure it's fine. Good to get that bit of roofing sorted. Yeah, exactly. Right. Sorry, so this is th this is this is th th this is th th th th I'm sure it's fine good to get that bit roofing sorted yeah exactly right sorry so this episode was supposed to be this is supposed to be a special intro yes yes I'm really well it was in a way it never happened before this is hot this can't be on the radio radio right basically big announcement huge announcement huge announcement is this good promo or bad promo? I think no one to stop listening at this point. This is the best we've ever, best four minutes we've ever
Starting point is 00:05:08 put out. Okay, guys, the big announcement is we are doing more live shows. Two more live shows. Two more, yeah, two more. But they are in big venues. Yes, up north. We're doing Manchester and down south, we're doing London. I've got the press release. Okay. Do th. Do more th. Do more th. Do more th. Do th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho the the the the the the the the the the the the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho tho the. the. the. the. the. thoooooooooo. the. the. the. the Manchester and down south we're doing London. I've got the press release. Okay do you want to read that out? Yes. All of it? Over 50 million downloads. Oh is that the right podcast? Is that Joe Ogden's? Yeah. Known, known anti-vaxa. Look man, we just get opinions on parenting you. No, so on Friday the 14th of April 2020, next year, next year, Friday the 14th of April, not this year, next year.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Before we give a shit, we can only get it next year because everywhere is booked up because people would be rescheduling tours. It was as soon as we could do. Yeah, as soon as we could do. Friday the 14th of April, next year, we are playing Manchester Arena. Formerly the MEN arena when I used to live in Manchester. The Manchester Arena. So it's 14th of April, Manchester Arena, and what's the next one? The 21st of April, the following Friday, when we're doing London, the O2. Oh, the O2. The big room? The big room? The big room. You're local. It's 16. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's 16. It's 16. It's 16. It's 16. It's 16. It's 16. It's 16. It's 16. It's 16. It's 16. It's 16. It's 16. It's the the the the the the the the the f. the f. The the f. The the f. The the f. The the f. The the f. the f. the f. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. thean. th. th. the the th. the the the the the th. the big room. The big room? The big room! You're a local. It's 16 minutes from my house, Rob. This is exciting, isn't it, the local? We should have a big party. We should have a little after party.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Oh, we'll have. Imagine the babysitting costs in the country. So we've, due to demand for the Hacney tickets, we've gone for bigger venues. Yeah, it's the only way we could make sure everyone the the the the thure thure the thure thure thure tha tha to make to make the to make the to make the to make their to make their to make their their their to make their to make their to make to make to make to make to their their toeck. toecknecks. their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to be. to be. th. to be. to be. to be. to be. toe. toe. toe. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toe. the the could make sure everyone gets a ticket because it was a bit ridiculous the demand for it. So yeah, if you came to the live shows at Hackney and those little rooms, it'll be like that but with obviously massive production because we're going to be in big arenas. Yeah, I was doing six costume changes. Shall I? We can't wait to do it? We're so excited that we're doing these.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And so tickets go on sale the 18th of February. That's next Friday, 10 a.m. 18th of February. However, however, there is a way to get in early. Be the first to buy tickets. They're a pre-sale for listeners of the podcast is on the 16th of February next Wednesday. And all you need to do to get a link to the pre-sale is join the parenting hell mailing list. If you want to join, if you're already a member, that's fine. If you want to join, it is in the description of this podcast. It's in our description on Instagram. So any of our podcast will have the mailing list description. You know on your phone, just, just, just, just, just, the the mailing list description. You know on your phone just go down it's there I click on that shoving your email and then you'll be sent a link that comes
Starting point is 00:07:48 alive at 10 a.m. on Wednesday and you can get tickets before anyone else. That is Manchesterina 14th of April and the 02 the 21st of April next year. It is genuinely how do you feel I felt I felt quite nervous saying that then my hands are going. Yeah, you are nervous, you're cuffing your hands. I bet you are nervous. You've got a roof that needs paying, you need this to go well. But no, I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:08:13 The live shows were so much fun. And what I enjoyed about it was, podcasting weird, because it's a bit fruity or we talk about other famous people that we can't really put, you know, may exist on audio in podcast world. However, if you say it live, and it's not, because we're not, none of these live shows are going to be recorded and put out. No. So it's all very special and on the night. So we're excited about it because we're going to be able to say whatever we want. Very exciting.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Can I do a thing where I can sort of put a block? You know you can block Instagram stories. I want to put a block on certain people in mythink Lou's got to be allowed to come off. She don't know it's happening don't tell her. Anyway hopefully you get some tickets yeah we'll love to see you there they go on sale next week but if you sign up to the main list in the description of the podcast and on Instagram that's the quickest and easiest way for you to have access to them before they go on out on Friday the 18th. I'm also going on Graham Norton Josh next week. I'll be talking about it. That'll be on Friday and I'll be talking about it. Who are going to be talking about to about it? I think Dawn French is on it. Oh yeah.
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Starting point is 00:10:25 How many children have you got? We're rubbish at this, John. I love the idea. We've got a bedroom down there, we've got another bedroom. I have two daughters, they are 11 and 8. And then you're currently, you're currently in the UK for the last leg recordings, and they're back in Australia.
Starting point is 00:10:46 So you split your time between England and Australia, but that's not been the case the whole time you've got the case. Yeah, so up until about 2019 they were here. For a little while they did six months here, six months there, and then 2017 they moved, and then the end of 2019, my girls were getting home sick, my wife was getting some work back in Australia. And so we went, well, how about you guys go back to Australia? I can do the last league 10 weeks at a time and then I'll go home for a couple of months and then I'll come back here for 10 weeks. Because at the end of 2019 we lived in a world where you could fly easily between
Starting point is 00:11:15 countries. Yeah, that's not the greatest self, is it? Pandemic-wise. And we the the th and we thian, and we thia, thian, thi, than, than, than, than, than, than, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'll thi, I'll thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I I I I thi, I I I thi, I I I thi, I I I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I's, I's, I'm, I's, I'm, I'm thi, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, thin, t ttttttttooeean, tttoo... tttooeean, tttha at the time we said well let's see how it goes for a year and at the end of the year we'll kind of decide whether it's working and we kind of got to the end of 2020 and went well this is like a year like no other. Yeah that doesn't count. That one doesn't count. How long how long will you be over for? What will you not see them for on this stint? then on this st stin this stin this stin th? th? th? th? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the the the the thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. te. tee. tea. tea. tea. te. te. the. the. the. the. ththem on this stint then? This particular trip is nine weeks which is not too bad. Yeah that's tough. The previous stint was seven months and I didn't realize. Yeah that's the longest I've ever been away from them and bloody hell. Really full on. Yeah how do you how do you like do your days then like how do the days? How do you because obviously they're on the time. I'm more interested in how Adam. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm the. I'm the. I'm. I'm. I'm. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I. I'm. I'm. I'm the. I'm the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I don't. I don't. I don does the days actually. I can imagine how Adam does the days.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Well, no, no, no, let's talk about me because I'm the one that really suffered traum. You never tired, Adam. You never tired. I mean, my wife has been amazing. What made it better and worse in those seven months is that Melbourne went into quite a full-on lockdown. But what made it better was that we just at the beginning of lockdown had bought a holiday shack about an hour and a half outside of Melbourne.
Starting point is 00:12:32 It's an Australian thing to call it an old day shack. Is that like a beach hut? Yeah, I guess it's like a beach up. It's not a shed. Yeah, it was like a two bedroom house, but it was down by a beach side suburb. And so my wife moved down there with the girls for two months and kind of used that time to renovate. Yeah, because they were by the beach, they could go for a walk on the dog for walks and stuff like that, or the dog for a walk. So it kind of worked out to a degree, but yeah, I think she was, my wife was a trooper to just do all the homeschooling, do all of that. And renovate that stage. You're like in London going, oh actually I was thinking of a different shade.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Could you redo it? There was one moment where my daughters were taking me around on face time showing me, you know how the house looked and they were going and here's this bit and this whole wall here this is just full of mummy's special things. And I went, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, th th thi thi's thi's thi thi's thi's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th here, this is just full of mummy's special things. And I went, okay, is there a wall for daddy special things? Got it. There's space for a suitcase, one them little things, you know, they put the in hotels. Because if I say I've got, even if I'm like away, you know, so it's a Friday I'm doing last leg and bedtime's going badly
Starting point is 00:14:07 I'll get a text from Rose going this is a nightmare right or whatever. Yeah, but you're Away in the UK are you still getting text updates of like I'm having a fucking nightmare today, you know, all that kind of stuff I'm going through my phone now because I got one last week that I'm going to read to you. Word for word, the text from my wife. I have a TV pitch for you. Bluey, but the girls are a bit older, pre-teens. They no longer like playing together. And it is away, chilly is pre-mensteral videos and Tick-Tock on their iPads. And scene.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Very creative moaned. I like that. I like that. Yeah, and I can't, you know, I can't complain. Like I had a day yesterday where I left home at 7.15 in the morning. I went and did an interview for Australian television. I got on a train to Leeds. I did some filming in Leeds for the Channel 4 Rugby League coverage. I went to the press launch in Leeds, hopped on another train, came back to the comedy store, hosted a charity gig, got home at 11 at night. I can't complain about that. No. Yeah. And you are tired. That is tyring.
Starting point is 00:15:25 That is a tiring day. Officially, that is I'm going to let you have that. That's a tiring day, Adam, but no one else will let you have it at home. I'll tell my wife that and she's like, really? You're living the dream own thing a little bit more, but that newborn stage would have been hard to leave them for seven months? No, I couldn't have gone that long, but I mean even, I don't know, travels kind of been a part of our lives really, from the very early days. I mean when my first daughter, honestly when my first daughter was three and a half thoughs was over here, their wife had th., th., th., th., th.. th. th. th. to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, to to be, tho, to me, to be, to me, to me, thi, thoomorrow, to me, tho, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I've, I've, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I, I, I, I, I, I's, I, I, I..... So, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, t to.a. I mean, to.uu friends was over here, and was very unwell. It was in the last stages of her life and my wife said, I really, I have to go and see her. And so she took a baby who was three and a
Starting point is 00:16:14 half weeks old on a flight with a friend of hers over here. So that was heartbreaking. Yeah. That was so heartbreaking at three and a half weeks to have to put my wife and baby on a plane and not see them for 10 days. Yeah. I really had never felt pain like that. It was the weirdest experience. It's hard as well, because I imagine, you know, especially with the last leg,
Starting point is 00:16:38 because it was such a mega hit and it's been going like 22 series you've had now. So, and when you're building you're building that that that that's building that's building that's building that's building that's building that's building that's to build to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be a to be a to be a to be. to be. to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to, to, to, that, that, that, the the the the the the the th... th. that. that, th. that. that. th. to, th. that, th. th. that, th. that's, th. that's, th. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, threat starting that it does feel stressful to like you can't go no to a series and stuff to be with the kids more so it's a real juggling balancing act isn't it so has that been difficult to work out how much you do and how much you don't do because you know you still got to work to provide you know, to their thrown. to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their stuff. You still. You still still still still still still still still. You still still still. You still still still still. You still still still still still still still. You still. You still still. You still to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their s. their s. You still. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the try. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to describe it to the girls, because as you know, when you're trying to describe, you know, stuff like that to kids, my daughter's be like, well, why do you... Actually, to be fair, I've said to them, look, let's see how it goes and if you don't like it, you know, if this is all too much, Helsing. Well, here's the answer to the name from Beev, the 11-year-old, she said, no, I don't want you to stop doing the last leg. And I went, really?
Starting point is 00:17:32 And she went, firstly, you love it. Secondly, you and Josh and Alex are great together. Oh, there we go. There we go. Sounds like buying things. So whenever I go away for a bit, I get a bit guilty and then I, you know, I'm supposed to be going to Australia for like a whole month and stuff to do my tour. So when I go, come back, I always, you know, getting presents and things like that.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Does that just get out of hand after seven months or do you just put a lid on it? Because you don't want to be that guy just turns up loads of toys, but I always do. I can't help it, like coming back from an airport or something. Very early doors when Bibi was like two and a half, I said, I had to go to Montreal for the comedy festival, and I did that thing of going, I was trying to work, I was trying, I, I, I was trying, I, I, I was trying, I, I was trying, I was trying, I, I, I, I was trying, to, to work, to work, to work, to work, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, I was, like, to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, to, to, like, to, like, like, like, like, to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to........... I. I. I. to. to, I. to, to, to. to. to, to, to. to, to. to. to, I. to, to, I. to, to, I. to, to, I. to The show that I was the gala that I was doing over there was being hosted by the Muppets so I said what if I get a message for you from Kermit? Oh wow. And so I basically I got a message from Kermit and then and it's really hard to top that as a gift. Yeah I bet. It's really hard to tap that's that as a that as a that as a that as a that as a that the that's their that's that's their that's their that's their that's that's that's their to to that's their to to to to to to to to to to to that's that's that's to to that's that's that's to that's that's that's that's to that's to that's to to that's that's that's that's to the that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to be. I. I. I to be to be to be the to be the too. I. I to the too. I. I to to. I to. I to to to to to to to to to the to to this time you're like, I can get your message from Rich Ney Awadi. Is that all right? Yeah. Mary Margulies is on Friday. Well, that does.
Starting point is 00:18:49 She can swear at you. Funny, you say that though. So for her seventh birthday, I was thrown. I was home for it, but I'd been away in the months leading up to the month. And so I went right, I'm going to get a whole bunch of video messages, like birthday messages for her. One of them was Miriam Margulies because she's Professor Sprout. Oh, yes. So I ended up with Miriam Margulies, Sue Perkins because she loved Bakeoff, and Daniel Radcliffe. I managed to get a message from Daniel Radcliffe. Oh, wow.
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Starting point is 00:20:58 Oh wow. Amazing. That's unbelievable. It's so good, Bluie. It is really good. Because you've been in Thunderbirds, haven't you? Like, would you be tend to do Bluie? I'd love to do Bluie. The funny thing, one of the funny things about Bluey is the lead, or was the lead, is the lead singer in a band called Custard who are quite big in Australia. That's such an Australian band name and it, Custin.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Never heard of anywhere wrong through the world, but Custard absolutely ripping it up. Twelve notes at Sydney Opera House, custard. I just googled custard and just custard come up. They're not bigger than custard yet. Yeah, so the thing is if you listen to custard now. Yeah. the custard, the the to custard, to custard, to custard, the to custard, the band custard, to custard, the band custard, the band custard, the band, the band, the band, th custard, th custard, the band, th custard, th custard, thus custard, thus custard, their, thus custard, their, their, their, cucuster, cucuster, cucuster, cucuster, cucuster, cucuster, cucuster, cususus custard, cus custard, cus custard, cus custard, custard, custard, cus custard, custard, custard, custard, thust, thust, thus custard, thu custard, thus custard, thu custard, thu custard, thus cuuuuucusc, custard the band. Yeah, so the thing is if you listen to Custard now, all you can hear is bandit singing and you just are amazing. And do you, because like if I'm away obviously and then I come back and as well as the presence I'll over, you tend to overcompensate in other ways.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Would you find that when you go back you suddenly you can't help but fall into a kind of good cop trying to please kind of suit? That's what I'd do. I'd find it very difficult to then give discipline or anything like that because I'm like, I've only got to really win. I've got to really like make these magical moments. I'm not coming in and laying down the law. No, that's a good point. I found that. Okay, so when I went I went th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. tod. t. tod. t. th. the law. No, that's a good point. I found that. Okay, so when I went back last year, I'd been away for a couple of months, in the meantime they had bought a dog. And like at least with the kids. I love the way they, not we. Zero involvement in the decision. But you can't, you can't, like, if I'm away, Lou just does whatever she wants. There's no way that I have an opinion on it if I'm not there.
Starting point is 00:22:48 No, I think, I think Ali had kind of said to me, look, we're thinking of getting a dog and I went, okay, you know I'm away for two months. Yeah. Like, just know that if you've set up a history of some sort of discipline so I can go back I can go no no you know that's not how we do things. With the dog I got home. I got home. With the dog I got home after two months it had already been conditioned to do things a certain way. And so when I was going no no no no we we don't, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not got home after two months, it had already been conditioned to do things a certain way. And so when I was going, no, no, no, we don't sit on the couch, get off the couch. He'd look around and go, well, everyone else reckons it's okay.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Who's this guy? Who's this guy? Because I've got a dog. And basically, like, if you don't give it, like, whoever gives it the most love, he'll just go to. So if you're a bit, they are just like, yeah, not you, you don't give me food from the table. The kids keep feeding it from the table.
Starting point is 00:23:53 So they do give you a wide birth if you're the stricter one, I find. Well, and I find with kids, this is the worst the worst the worst the worst is the worst is the worst is the worst is the worst is the worst is the worst is the worst is the worst is the worst, the worst, the worst, the worst, the worst, the worst, the worst, the worst, the worst, their, their, I, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, thi. their, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, but this is also kind of lovely. It's who they go to when they're in trouble, when they're hurt. And there's always that thing, and I'm sure it's happened to you both, where when they're little, if they'd fall over and hurt themselves and you were the closest and you'd go to help, they'd go, no, mommy. Oh, still Yeah, okay. So I had a moment. So my youngest is she's got a real daddy bond. And so when I went back this time, I was only home for five weeks, I had to quarantine for three days at home before. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Are you separated from your family in that situation? Well, yeah, we were trying to work out what to do. And there are a couple of neighbors in the next street tha tha tha thoes, thoes, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I was, I was, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was, I was thi, I I I was, I I I I I was, I I I I I I I I I was, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I I, I, I I, I, I, I, I thi, I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thiiiii. th thoan, th th thiiii. th thi. thi. thi. thi go and stay at their place so that you can have the house to yourself and at least quarantine at home for 72 hours. And after the first day, Amazie the eight year old said, Daddy I want to come quarantine with you. Oh, because we couldn't hug up until that point. We just saw like with sea tunnel on the street and go, oh my god. Oh my god. I said, okay, you can't come. You can't. You can't. You can't. You can't. You can't. You can't. You can't the the th. You can't the the the the the the the the th. the the the they. the the the the the the the the the the the the their. they. they. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tape. tape. tape. today. today. te. today. te. today. today. te. today. today. today. t come to try and team with me, but you won't be able to leave the house. We can't leave the house for two days. And she went, oh no, does that mean we'll have to eat take away and watch movies for two days? Like, oh that's nice. If we can, so we kind of rebuilt that little bond. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:17 But there was a moment towar the to to be, towar, towar, I ran and grabbed her and picked her up and I sort of got you and then Ali came running out as well and I was kind of holding her and you could see Maisie do that thing where she went oh mommy's here thank goodness and then she went oh oh daddy daddy and it was just one of those tiny tiny tiny tiny little wins that you get as parents where and not not not not not not not a the no no no no no no no no no no no no no the the the to the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No thin. thin. thin. th. th. th. to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I I I I I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm. I'm the the. I'm. the the. the the the the the. the the. the. I the the. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm., tiny, tiny little wins that you get as parent. And not a win over my wife, not like a, screw you, but just... But screw you. Yeah, seven months out of the game, I still got it, yeah? Don't mess with a big dog. Oh, that's not, but they can, my youngest is like that.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I always, my favorite thing is holding a hand on the walk to preschool. It's always cold and she's got a lovely little warm hand and then she knows I love that. She stopped doing it now and she, her things, I don't hold daddy's hand, but then the other day she'd come over to me and gave me the biggest hug and probably, those little ones, but they just do it to wind you up then they know if you want a hug or not. Well, how old's she? She's four, so they, yeah, the youngest? Yeah, she's the youngest, I got six year old and a four year old. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And they've started, well, one of them started doing it's to wind me up. I throwne, that, that, that, that, the, the, the, the, the, that, the, that, that, that, that, that, that, their, that, that, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thin, thin, thin, tho, tho, thooooooo, thoooooooo, thooooooooooooooo, thooooooooo, and their,'s brutal. I think she's doing it to wind me up. She plays mental games. It's like having Roy Keene in the house. She's too switched on for own good of six. How do you respond to that? What's you? I would say, I said I make you right, yeah. No, I didn't. I said, no, we do care about it. you and I said no we wanted we care about you so much we wanted to get you and give you a lovely sister for you to play with. We had a textbook. Absolutely text book. So that you've got thingy that's because you caught you that's because it's the youngest and needs more help and you're bigger and you know what you're doing all that old drivel. And so you've written a children's book. I should say early, what would you call it, early teen, what are the age groups that you...
Starting point is 00:27:31 I think they call it middle grade? It's not like, it's one of those I didn't sit down and aim a book at a specific age. I guess I was writing it for my eldest. When she was about eight, she had said to me, like quite concerned one of those kind of kitchen conversations where she just went, daddy, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to to to say, I to say, I to say to say to say to say to say to to say to say to say to say to to say to say, I to to to say to say, I should to say, I should to say, I should to say, I should to say, I should to say, I should to say, I should to say, I should to say, I would to say, I to say, I to say, I to say, I to say, I to say, I to say, I to say, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th.. I to thi, I'd thi, I'd thi, I'd thi, to thi, to thi, to to thi, to to to to to to to to to thi, I'd to th, she had said to me, like quite concerned, one of those kind of kitchen conversations where she just went, Daddy, I don't know when I grow up if I want to be a rock star or a detective. As if it was like, oh my God, what are we going to do about this?
Starting point is 00:27:57 This is you're not supposed to be having these dilemmas at the Asian. So I kind of went, well, I think you can be both, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, a a a, a, a, a, a tha, a rock, a rock, a rock, a rock, a rock, a rock, a rock, a tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, a thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th. th. A, th. that, that, that, that, that, a, a, a, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thooooooooooooooooooooooooo, that, that, that, that, th be having these dilemmas at the Asian. So I kind of went, well I think you can be both. Why don't you be both? You can be a, you know, a rock star that solves detective cases as you do it. And then kind of went, I think there's a book in that. Yeah. And so she and I then came up with the idea by her because I thought, okay, well, let's see if thrown. the thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the the thoooo. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho. Ssoo. Ssoo. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes. Sooes. Sooes. Soothe creative process then. Absolutely is, yeah. She's getting a cut? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I even said down with her and my other daughter after when the book was finally commissioned and I went right they're going to pay me for this.
Starting point is 00:28:32 So how about, in this genuine conversation, I said, how about we split it three ways, I'll take a bit and then you you you you you you you you th.. tho. the tho. tho. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll that. I'll that. I'll to to to to to to to to say, I'll to say, I'll the. I'll the. I'll the. I'll the. I'll the. I'll will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will. I'll will. I'll will. I'll will. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. I'll toea. I'll toea. I'll toea. I'll toea. I'll the for the future. Oh amazing. And then Bibi, the eldest, said, let's split it four ways and we'll give some of it to charity. Oh my word. You need to sort her out. She's need to sort her out, mate. Yeah, yeah, it's all good now. the way, to you. the fucking's coming in. I like the idea. Biggest regret of her life that.
Starting point is 00:29:05 She's on the phone to you. She's on the phone to you every day going, can I keep a track on sales? Because I do need to take you out. Look, if we are going to split in four ways, we do need to push this promo one, dad. You are going to have to do Sunday brunch Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday. I'm sorry. But I'll miss my flight at home. That's not the point, Dad.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Okay? Gordon, no, no, what? She thought, now I've just realized something. She did see the book in the stores last week. I bet it's amazing. I got quite excited by that. And but then was calling me and was saying, I saw it in the shop. Great. So when someone buys it, do you get??? tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thia. tha. tha. tha. tooes. too. thi. tooes. tooes. tooes. tooes. I'm, I'm. I'm. I was. I was. I was. I was, I was, I was, I was. I was, I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I. I. I. That's. I. I. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. th. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. toe. toe. toea. toea. toea. tooo. toooananananananananananan't. So, toa. So, toea. Wea. So, toea. Wea. the the toe amazing. And then she went, so when someone buys it, do you get money?
Starting point is 00:29:45 So I think you're right. Yeah. And so we came up with an idea of the story that we came up with. I wanted it to be a couple of 12-year-olds. So it's two 12-year-olds, Charlie and George on their first ever rockstar. And I was thinking, well, how do they they th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's, that's, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, they become, like, why, two, 12-year-olds rock stars? And then went, you know what, the way the internet, I came up with this story where basically George, George is in a wheelchair, and so he sees things from a different level to everybody else. It's almost like one of his superpowers. He spots Charlie, the new the new singing sen Oh nice. Very hastily her
Starting point is 00:30:29 mother's cousin steps in and decides to organize the tour for her and manage them. They'll never get family involved. Exactly. Always the biggest mistake with boxers. The dad or the brother does the finances before you know it they're in the jungle. Even a kangaroo's ass. That's. boxers, the dad or the brother does the finances. Before you know it, they're in the jungle. You're in a kangaroo's ass. That's exactly, that was the whole reason behind getting him there. And there's always a family member who will step in at that.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yeah, oh that, yeah, they're lining up. They're lining up to ruin your career. So they're doing their first ever tour, but every place they perform, so Charlie's doing the singing, George is doing the social media side of it. Sam, the mom's cousin is on tour with them as their manager, but everywhere they perform, a priceless piece of art is stolen, like a Van Gogh when they're in Amsterdam,
Starting point is 00:31:16 from the Bengh Museum. And then when the police look into all all all. Yeah. Lovely. So they've got to solve the crimes and go, why does it look like we're the ones that are doing this? Did you enjoy writing a mystery? Because I like, I like the idea of writing a mystery. And also, I suppose, is there a point at which you go, like, because it's your daughters, come up I write my book, you feel like you disappear into that time or whatever, you know, it's like kind of escapism. Did it feel like a kind of almost way of, I mean, maybe I'm overly psychoanalying it, but a way of being with your daughters
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Starting point is 00:32:45 Yeah, and then the next day you can't, we just need to have strict times otherwise. I'm getting all hot and sweaty thinking about when we had to do that. You know, you know, I'm getting like P. J. the second book, which I'm about two-thirds of the way through now, a lot of which I wrote during that seven-month-a-way period. And I kind of realize that the characters are either they're becoming more like my daughters or my daughter's becoming like them. But Charlie is the rock star, so she's the kind of the musical one, the stylish one, the slightly anxious one, a bit like my eldest. George is just wants to, is a wannabe comedian and sees everything through the lens of how
Starting point is 00:33:29 is this a punchline, which is a bit like my youngest. And you're a comedian and your wife is a musician. So do you feel like, does it feel like with your two kids, you've got one that's your wife, and one that's you in a weird way? Each of them are bits of each of us in a different way. You know that thing of when you've got two kids and I'm sure yours are probably at that age now where you look at the two of them and go I don't, I'm pretty sure we put the same ingredients into both of you. Yeah. How is one of you a cake and one of you a sausage? tho and you are in the oven for same th thi so so so so thi. thi. thoes. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho's tho. tho's thi. thi. tho's tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. theea. that's that's theeeea. theea. theea. the same amount of time, what happened? And it is just a mix.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I look at Baby and I see parts of me and I see parts of Alley. And then I look at Maisie and the same thing. I see different parts of me and different parts of Alley. But Maisie has got that thi. toobey, and I see parts of oh yeah you're a natural you've just you're a major four you can go yep yep you've absolutely got it maybe he's got that with comedy and I don't want to I can see it she would just come out with the okay the best way to describe it and this absolutely blew me away was so this won't surprise you to know I'm try and make them laugh constantly
Starting point is 00:34:41 pride constantly. Pride. But we were on holidays in Mexico. Give me some examples of the things you've put yourself through to make. How far are you willing to go? Oh God. Well, recently I let them draw tattoos on me with whiteboard markers. With whiteboard markers. So I knew they'd watch off, but they said, can we draw on your back? And I went, yeah, okay. And then they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd th. they'd th. th. th. they'd they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. they'd. to. to. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. th. the. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. toed. the. the yeah, OK. And then they videoed it. And it was just like poo, old, gray.
Starting point is 00:35:07 But this is, so we were on, we're on holidays in Mexico. And we're on a family holiday. And we'd been driving through Mexico and stopping at traditional towns, like old towns and their to'n' to'n' to'n't thes and thes, thes, thes, thea, thea, thea, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, to old, to old, to old, to old, told, told, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, to old, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, to told, to to to to to to to to to told, to to to too... too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to we went to Tullum and it was like new age I mean there yeah yeah okay so you know the kind of yeah oh my god this is like come on in for some traditional May and yoga yeah yeah yeah so what is that Americans go in there to try and very yeah yeah it's like the trendy place in Mexico to go if you live in New York or LA I can I can think that's the fair description of it. So I would start to, I was starting to just impersonate the characters in the shops and one of them was like, oh my god, come into the shop, we've got so much traditional Mexican
Starting point is 00:35:53 Tai Chi, the way the Mexican used to do Tai Chi, it's amazing. And then the girls kind of started out living with me going, what's your their, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, their, their, their, like, their, like, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th.... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. the the the the the's Lashan. Yeah, that's right. And after a little while, Baby, and this actually sums up the difference between the two of them. Bibi's a bit more thoughtful. She went, Daddy, I think Lashan's name should be spelled LAS A G N E but then she started again with the ad living and she went what's the name of Lashan's store and I went oh my sharp doesn't have a name it has an emotion it's this it's and I just pulled the face and Maisie continuing the ad lib just went sorry can I just check that I'm pronouncing this correctly? Is it completely different?
Starting point is 00:36:49 What is that ad lib? Yeah, that's great. If you were doing an improv show, you'd go, yeah, that was great improv. I'd like the- I don't think I've ever said that. I'd like the- I don't think I've ever said that was, but I don't think that improv, I never said that was great improv. So I guess they came together in the characters, but to ask your first question, Josh, about writing a mystery, what's lovely about doing something like this and what comedians are really good at and why publishers love comedians right now writing children's books is I you know technically we
Starting point is 00:37:25 should know how to be entertaining and be funny but we know how to work backwards from a punchline you know you'll know yourself sometimes you come up with a joke like for the last leg where you're thinking oh god how do I thioe about this particular topic and then you eat one out and then other I don't know what you're talking about we just we just ref about the news to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the news to to to to to to the news to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to told. the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell you. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. to tell. to to to to to to to the on the night, right? Is it a comedy? I thought it was just like News Night or something. If it jokes on there, I'll have to watch it. Some jokes you get the punchline first and then you get backwards from it and go, how can I get there? Well, a detective, a mystery novel, once you've worked out what the punchline is. Yeah. Like I started writing this. I reckon I'd wried the the knowing where I kind of where I wanted it to end, and then I stopped,
Starting point is 00:38:07 and then I went and wrote the ending. Oh yeah, and the moment where they work out who the culprit is, so I knew I had that to aim at. And then I went back and went right, all I need to do is work out how to get to end with a rap. How do we get it? Dig it out really obscure news stories to engineer a huge performance. So guys, yeah, and let's not worry about that bit of the news. Look at this. So you're in the UK for nine weeks. Do you have like a routine of seeing your family and talking to your family and stuff?
Starting point is 00:38:47 How's that work? It's a bit of a weird one because of the time difference. So there's a, there's only two times where I can really talk to them. One is at night my time, but it's before school there. Like stressful, yeah'm up, but don't, if it's a stress morning, don't worry about it. The alternative is between, say, seven and nine in the morning for me, yeah, is about their dinner time. But it's also pre-dinner time and it's also, you know, basketball training or acting class or whatever. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:21 how is your basketball training going? It's great. I mean, seeing as I'm away from the kids, I'm not as I want, right? I find that really difficult. So I've done stints in Australia for, I went, I'm a celebrity, get me out of a spin-off show. So I was, oh yeah, yeah. And I did Adelaide before. So I've been in Australia for about five weeks at a time, and Lou and Lou, I was, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to, I found, I, I found, I found, I found, I found, I found, I found, I found, I found, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I to.................................................... I found, I found, I found, I found, I th, a few times. And Lou was at home as well, and I was, you know, that's when the early stages of the relationship when you talk a lot, you know, it's like you ring every day.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And I found it really difficult because I was never on anyone's wavelength, like you say, you're knack and you're like, you're naked and wanna go sleep. And they're like, you're like, you're like, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, you, you, you, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, like, like, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, like, like, th..... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr, like, like, you know, like, you're, you're, you're, you're, you know, to the same point in the day, that's what I found the most difficult. You can't to connect with them. Yeah. And even now, like, so I might send my wife a message at 8 going, right, I'm up, I'm having breakfast, but like this morning, I've got an hour and then I'm doing podcast. But if she doesn't get that message straight away or doesn't see it straight away, then you know she might call me back they might face time at quarter to nine and I'm like oh okay I've only got 10 minutes yeah tell me back your day and so genuinely I understand why Russell Crow supposedly threw a phone at someone in New York years ago. Supposedly he definitely did did he sure. I don't think that's a thing
Starting point is 00:40:39 a dispute is it it claim that. The story at the time was he was trying to get through to his kids back in Australia. So I could imagine that. I know that frustration of when even this morning I got them on face time and then it froze. And then they're like, Daddy you're frozen. Come, I, I did. Oh, no, it's horrible. Oh, no, it's horrible. this but do you think I was gonna say I'm like because my dad was a black cab driver and lorry driving did really weird shift patterns so he'd always be out in the evenings and back in the morning and then like you know I'm used to
Starting point is 00:41:10 to the evening and I'm like you know I'm used to to the night's gigan' the. But Lou's mom and dad's like I'm not to be up like I worked in the city would leave it's a to be like like like like like like like I to to to to to to to to to to the to to to the to to the the to the to to the the the the the the the the the the to the the to the the the the to to the the the to the the the the to to to to to to to to they. the they. I'd the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they the they the they the they the they. they. they's they would would which is like but it's bedtime now I was like well no not really is it because I'm got to be up you're not working tomorrow and I've not got so we could just stay up till four in the morning was like can we like yeah like so what was it was your upbringing a bit more nice to five or was it a bit more loose like like your your kids now well no well my dad my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to the to to to to to the Quantas cabin crew. Oh right. Oh, so yeah, so it's quite similar in a way, isn't it? That kind of being away, yeah. So he'd be away not for as long, but probably for a bigger percentage of the year because he, for every two days he spent away, he got to have one at home. Right. So if it was a, you know, whatever, 20-day London trip, then he'd be back for 10. Yes. But in a day where there wasn't a there wasn't face time and it really
Starting point is 00:42:07 to phone. So like I was talking to my mom about it recently, and she went, yeah, dad had been gone for two weeks and we'd get one phone call in those two weeks. Wow, that's the hell. Because it was so expensive for him. Yeah. So I grew up with a dad who was away a lot. Not only that, every now and then he'd take us on a trip. Like if he had a, it was school holidays and he was going to Melbourne and back, he'd go, yeah, come on, we'll come to Melbourne with me for the day.
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Starting point is 00:43:08 That's the part, but it's a separate, separate link. And then like spending all day sitting by a hotel swimming pool, yeah, which is what, you think of the comedy gigs that we've done in the early days where you'd go, I don't know, they go to Singapore and do three nights with three other comics and you just go to rule all day and then do a gig at night and I remember talking to one of my dad's mates and he went yeah that's what we used to do. We used to was like weirdly every couple of days there was a big group of like 20 women a couple of gay guys and I was like that's a weird place for a hen do and then another lot came and it was another like sort of like sort of mixed stages of women and a couple of gay guys I was like what is going on it I don't know it's like oh it's B a
Starting point is 00:43:59 a cabin crew I thought was a random hen do destination Johannesburg casino the. The inflatable penises are a bit much, right, right? Go on, guys. Yeah. Like you, like it never occurred to me that other people's dads didn't do that. Yeah. And I remember doing, oh, do you rea, the hyena comedy club in Newcastle.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Yeah, that was a notoriously tough comedy club. It was a hard club. They were the kind of audience that would metaphorically keep punching you until you got up. And then they'd go, do you know what? He's still standing, fair play to you? Yeah. But back in the day, and I never got up. They're still punching him. They're still punching him. So back in the day, if you played that club, you stayed at an apartment that the club owned,
Starting point is 00:44:45 or that one of the comedians owned, and whoever else was on with you that weekend, you'd share an apartment with them. And so I had a couple of weekends in a row where I shared with Frankie Boyle. And Frankie and I became quite close and we'd sit up, you know, very similar comedians, you know. You would be surprised. Frank and I and I up until all hours drinking cups of tea and talking about like Tai Chi and Taoism and the universe and Terence McKenna and all this amazing stuff. To the point where the next time I was on Mock the Week, where you do your
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Starting point is 00:45:54 I got nothing lad you Dennis is like oh I can try but fucking who's got stuff a rubob but luckily it was stuff like trains and you know Mickey Flanagan's life things like that how was your routine on Mickey the thli th th th th th th th the th the th the the the th the the th the th the the the the th. the th. the will will th. th. th. the the the. the will the will the will the will the will the will the will the will the will the will the will will will the will will will will will will will the will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will will the will will will will will will the will will will the will will will will the will will will the the the will will will will will will the th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th the the the thin the the will the the will the the the the the the the the w. the the the w. the the the the the w. the the the the the w. the the. the. the. the. the.igan's life, things like that. How was your routine on Mickey Flanagan's life from? I'm still doing it. Anyway, Frankie and I got talking, and then somewhere we were talking about, you know, my dad working for Qantas, and he was talking about how his dad would come home from work at maybe seven or eight at night and they'd only see him for maybe half an hour and then they'd have to go to bed when they were kids and that was the first time that occurred to me that oh that's what most dads did. Yeah, most dads had, for 20 days, and then you'd come home from school and he'd be there at three and the hour.
Starting point is 00:46:47 It's like feast off famine, isn't it? And you actually get dedicated time. I think I say sometimes people can misconstru it and you think, oh, you don't see your dad. But then I remember that, my dad would If I'm home, I'm home. And I'm there. And there was one thing that my youngest used to, or still does, that I used to find a little bit annoying, but this trip back I kind of went, oh no, this is actually a compliment. So when she would have a friend over, and this is how the whiteboard markers came about on my back, she had a friend over to go, Daddy can you play with this? Can we play jails? I don't, do you, have your kids play?
Starting point is 00:47:26 What's jails? What's jails? No. They just send you to press the sail blockage kind of stuff. Yeah, it's like, basically all it consists of is daddy you're in jail. You have to go over there in the corner. You're not allowed out. Well, you know what you've done. You know what you've done. Go and stand on the time out step. They don't call it jail, but they go,
Starting point is 00:47:47 you've been naughty going the time out step and they sort of invent something that I've done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a bit of similar, I think. I think they just like having a bit of power over you. Yeah, hands on yeah, yeah. You get really defensive with it. Time out gives you a bit of hope, but jail, how long? Any bail? Australian justice is wrong again isn't it? It's unbelievable. Yeah, just panicking about Chopper Reed and all those stories
Starting point is 00:48:17 of Australian, Australian prisons. So Maisie will do that now. She'll go and when, what happened with the tattoos came about because it started with a makeover. She had a friend over and she went, Daddy can we give you a makeover? And there was a little part of me going, no, this is why we ask you to have a friend over. Yeah. We'll go off and do your own thing. And then I kind of went. No, actually I think that's kind of a compliment. And thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. that. to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the the th. th. th. the ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. t's kind of a compliment. If you've got a friend over, but you still want me involved in your games, yeah. I'm actually going to take that as a compliment and I am going to come over and yeah, you can do a makeover. You and you and friend can do a makeover and play jails or whatever you want to do on me. So do you think the tattoos were so you'd fit in in jail? You know. Are you a blood or you're a crip? Let's just check. Exactly, you know. But what makes that worse is that my elders wrote back on my back and front on my front. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:49:12 If she's doing that to make things easier in jail. Yeah, I know. You're some prank, got toy for a big boy. The bizarreest thing that you're up to the moment Hills, which I know you're not on hit to promote, but you're now the face of rugby league in the UK. You're the face of rugby league? I'm the face of channel 4's rugby league coverage. In channel 4, Rob, you're not going to believe this, have bought the rugby league. What a thing to fall into Adam's.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Wow, that is per the disability Warrington's disability rugby league team and I've been doing it for about four years yeah no offense Adam but I sort of assume that I didn't think you were going pro in between seven you know I think that would be the headline that you are now with a prosthetic leg playing full pelp we get another job that involves traveling around the world te. th th. and I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. th. I th. I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're don don't don't don't don't don't they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they're they with a prosthetic leg playing full peltap. I used to get another job that involves traveling around the world. I don't understand. It's going to actually be in the actual Olympics now, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Well, I actually, when they offered me the job, I'll be honest, my first thought was no, because I went, no, you need an expert. Yes, I play, and I love it. Yeah. But you want a proper rugby league commentator and they went, oh we're not letting you commentate. So are you presenting it or you're just doing that promo for it? Like you know sort of the anchor or? I'll be I'll be the anchor of it but well I think it needs that though because I'll watch rugby league. I prefer that to union because it's a bit more exciting I think when I've watched it. But I feel like that that needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it needs it's the the the the the that's that's that's that's that's the that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's that's that's. I's. I'll that's. I'll that's. I'll that's. I'll that's. I'll that's. I's. I's. I's. I's that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I's a the the the the th. I'll the the th. I's a the the th. I's th. I's that's that's that's that's th when I've watched it. But I feel like sport sometimes doesn't have that entry point right. I see you go, I was Adam Hills. Oh the last guy, the funny guy, oh he likes this, I like him, I'll probably like it. So what is it? And then your passion will come through.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And I think it makes it, and I think you need those people that are the middle ground between'd be like, oh whatever, but if I see you go, oh, okay, what's this then? I think it's a good way in, to be honest. I think they made a great decision, guys, that's what I'm saying. Well done, Chennelot. It's, even just hearing you say that, that's, I thu. this music quiz show in Australia and I'm not I'm not a music nerd but I love music. Yeah. And I kind of realized while doing it that my job was to translate the music nerd knowledge to the people at home who might not know. And so I think I'm going to try and approach the rugby league the same way and go like I love this. Yeah, I love it and these guys are going to tell me. Yeah, they're they're the experts the experts the experts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're the experts. They're the experts. They're the experts. the experts. Yeah. They're the experts. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th th th th. the their th. th. their th. their th. their th. their their the the their their the the the th're the experts, you know. I'll try and translate that for you at home. And in many ways, I hate to admit this, but me, you and Alex, aren't experts in the news.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Not yet. There you are. So what your job is, Hills, is every time you get a job is, can we get that guy in that doesn't know much about this? You know, but I think even if you do, like I know quite a lot about boxing now, I've become a bit, I've probably nerded out of it and I could probably have a semi-serious conversation about the tactics of a boxer, but I don't, I'll never know as much as a proper boxer or a proper boxing expert. So my skills are whenever I do any sort of boxing coverage, is going, oh, this is exciting because that person doesn't like that person and he's quite good aggressively but he's got more skills and just break it down really simply rather than trying to be like, I think some people get that's why with football coverage I find I don't give a shit about zone or press in play
Starting point is 00:52:32 you know when they go oh the zone or play I'm like shut up just let the experts say that just be like entertaining and explain it simply. I think yeah you sometimes get sports presenters that want to show that they know what they're talking about. Yeah. They're not comfortable with being the person that's... And it's a difficult job, the person who's good at linking it all together and being interested in asking all these questions. I think Marlpoo Gatch is really good. He's really good on the football. It's got it's all constantly going on like he knows about football. What is this guy in there? Well I remember when I hosted the quiz show in Australia, one of the, we had a guy come on as consultant who basically directed Paul Hogan's TV show, he directed all the chat shows in Australia that that had come before us.
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Starting point is 00:54:07 So there was one, there was one particular show that like two or three episodes in, I think it was. And there were two things that happened. Firstly, uh, I think someone mentioned limp biscuit. Oh, yeah, who was the consultant watched the band Limp Biscuit. Oh yeah, who was the consultant, watched the episode back and we went, what's a limp biscuit? And I went, oh it's a band, it's like a kind of 90s but it's a kind of heavy, the chocolate starfish and the hot dog flavored water kind of like. That's a big Limp biscuit thi. I was a big Limp biscuit, yeah. Can I just ask? There's an open goal with LimpBiscuit there hills. Were you doing the leg stuff back in the day? I wasn't doing nothing.
Starting point is 00:54:46 The next thing. The key point was he said, well, so why don't you explain that to me as a viewer who Limp Biscuit are? Because I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. And you can do it in a funny way as well, can't you? And he said you don't need to do is go, Limp Biscuit of course with the 90s, this 90s band really in your face. Fred Durst, backwards red cap, rolling, rolling, rolling, that's all you need to do. That's all you need to do. Robb's just hit his mic rolling. Yeah, I did. It's quite hard actually to do that. It's quite talent, Fred Durst. I don't think you really got respect he deserved on the new metal to to to to thuu metal to to the new thu metal thu metal the new to the new to the new the new thu metal to thu me thu the the the thi thi thi thi thi. thioling thioling thi. thi. thioling thioling thioling thioling thioling thioling that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the reauuioli's all all all the. the rea' the rea' the brought up a really technical term. And I let it go, the conversation go, and Peter said, what's that term mean?
Starting point is 00:55:31 And I said, to be honest, I don't know. And he said, then ask. He said, because you don't know the viewers don't know. And better off asking, making yourself look like a bit of an idiot, but at least it's being explained, the not asking, and then, and thi, and the people, and the people, and the people, the people, the people, the people, at least it's being explained, they're not asking, and then people going, oh, I don't know what they're talking about, and then they turn off. You do that, Rob. That's my entire career. Rob, like, yeah, I'll always, I've never really been embarrassed, not, I think, because I've never really had any sort of expectation or ego to lose by not knowing because everyone automatically assumed I never knew.
Starting point is 00:56:09 So actually I think I've become way more informed because I'll be in a group of ten people at a work event with people, hey higher than me, and they'll say something, what's that, I've done what's going on, and then they'll explain it and then you find out, whereas if you just pretend to know you never learn, to, to, I, to, I, I, to, I, to, I, to, I, to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to, I, to, I, I, to, I'm, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, they, th, thi, their, their, their, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, and, their, their, their, their, their, they.e, thi.e, thi.e, thi.e, thi.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.a.e. And, th.a.a, tha, tha, they, then you find out whereas if you just pretend to know you never learn basically but I think that came through lack of expectation and I'd say you got nothing to lose if you just you know everyone already thinks you don't know what it is. They've already assumed I don't know so mothed I don't know so. What's mad is you think oh my god if I don't know this thing I'm to look stupid and everyone's you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you th th you th you thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi to to to thi to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, and also it makes the per it makes what's mad is you think oh my god If I don't know this thing I'm gonna look stupid and everyone's gonna think bad of me But in reality what happens is you find out which is a positive and also the person you're asking theyre's feel powerful and then they like you more so actually by doing that they're like I like I like that guy no like that guy. No, I like that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th like th. I like th. I like th. I like th. I like th. I like th. I like th. I like th. I like th. I like like th like like th like like like like th. th. I like th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I like th. I like th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi thi thi thi thi. I the feeling you get by being around me. It's like when bokes go, you know, I'm really into sort of, you know, I love women that are funny and
Starting point is 00:57:07 most of them go, no, you just want a woman that laughs at you. Let's be honest. I've seen them in a pub. But that is such good, that's such good advice to present you especially the dinner party thing and asking questions because if yeah, if you don't, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you don't, yeah, if you don't, if you don't, yeah, yeah, yeah, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, yeah, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, the, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, you the, you the, the, the, the, the, the, th th th th th th th th th th th th th they they th they they they they th th they th they th that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the audience won't, will they? No, absolutely. And so that's kind of what I'm going to try and do with rugby leagues. Like, they've given the experts, I've got proper people around me, and I'm just gonna ask loads of questions. And it'll probably be the questions that I genuinely want to ask. I'll be like, okay, well, they're not. way those two play the same sport, what's going on with their position? Because you see a bloat that's like a well like that and they're like little skinny feather. I'm like, well he must be on the wing or something, but God knows.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Oh, that's pretty. No, came over and shook my hand and went good luck for Saturday and then just just made me realize how much it really means to rugby and also as well like having watching you know someone with a disability talk about sport and like and engaging it and say you're a fan of it and you play it but in such a casual froway way rather and it's sort of a proven a point kind of thing just so good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I I I I I I. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. I I I I. I I. I. I. I I. I I. I I I. I I I I I I I I I I. I I I I I I I I I I.. I I I I I I I I I I. I I. I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the the the the the the the the the the th. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. to th. to to just just just just just to to to to to the the the it's sort of a proving a point kind of thing, just so good for kids watching it. You know, if they love rugby, you sort of like, when I was a kid and someone had disbittened into that rugby, he would, the vibe of the class would be like, well, what do you know about rugby? But then, you know, that kind before to Alex and you as well like what you've done the last leg is absolutely unbelievable and I think is
Starting point is 00:58:46 for someone who's sort of outside of it I think it's amazing and you can see it with kids that can go oh well those guys do that and you know the good do you can come play the sport or sit and talk about it and everyone listens properly so I think it's remarkable and I think you're You've forgotten one of the people who does the last fact that, Robb. And you as well, Josh, well done you. Even though, you know, sort of there, cheering them on. To be fair to Josh, Alex will often say to me, I don't think Josh gets the appreciation that he deserves for being an able-bodied person, being thrown into the Paralympics. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:23 this disability chat. And not thjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjuuuuuuososososososososososososososososososososososososuooososuoos. th. thoosu thoosu thoosu thoososu tho thoososososa tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. You th. You th. You th. You th. th. You tho tho tho tho tho tho thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. You tha. You tha. thrown into the Paralympics. Yeah. I'm not getting cancelled. Surely you must have seen something wrong by now. Just by accident. Rob, tell him, just before you, tell Hilsie about your hotel room? Oh, I don't know if you know about this. I went to, I was doing a Kiggin Darby and they gave me the, correct me if I get it wrong. The acceability room, so the room, th, th, th, th, the room, thu, thu, th, th, th, th, the room, the room, thu, thu, thu, the room, the room, the room, the, the, the, the, the, just, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, get it wrong, but like the accessibility room, so the room that's sort of designed if you're in a wheelchair or struggling to get about with all the, you know, the bars for the shower and the low toy, you know, that, or the low sink and stuff. So I went in there and then all the emergency called and I went, and I was like, the, the reception, and I'm sort of, the sort of, the, the, th, th, th, the, th, to, to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the She went, oh don't you need it? I was like, no, no, I don't. She was like, and I'm stood up at this point as well to be fair, like, you know, and I obviously not in the wheelchair. I went, no, I don't need it, but you're disabled.
Starting point is 01:00:10 And I was like, I'm not, well, no I'm not is able-bodied. I know you wouldn't believe it, but he's, you know, technically, you know, on paper medically, able-bodied. Wow. I think, I think Josh, you know you will have come a long way when you can go to Google, you can start typing the sentence, is Josh Whitakam, and the next word won't be disabled. They're probably canceled. Josh, you gotta ask the last question? I mean, it's probably impossible for Adam to answer this one without getting any telling.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Yeah, well, we like to end always with asking the same question. Because Matthew Crosby, who you know, came on, and his wife's a big fan of the show, and he used it as an opportunity to say something that annoyed him about her parenting so that she, that he hadn't confronted her about, so that he was, which was hanging the bibs on the tap? No, no, hanging the bibs when they were wet to dry on the oven door because they just dripped on the floor. And he was like, why don't you just put them in the sink and let them drip in the sink? So basically, is there something that your partner does,
Starting point is 01:01:32 parenting wise that annoys you that you'd haven't really brought up? And if she she she she she she she she she she the the th th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the you to say in a flat on your own the other side of the world. Yeah, she's just a bit distant. My wife's doing an amazing job on her own. Yeah. It's over that whole seven months and there's nothing she did wrong in that. You know what, I think that's the perfect bend. We can't put this on you, Adam, you've already got enough groveling to do.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Thanks so much, right. Good luck. Boxtonsetives is out and I thoroughly, I've started reading it and thoroughly enjoyed it, even though it's not for me, Adam. It's not for, it's not for, it's not for 38 year old, but th, it, it, it's th, it, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not for, it's not, it's not for, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not for, it's not for, it's not for, it's not for, it's not for, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, th, th, th, th, th. It's not, th. It's not, th. It's not, th. It's not for, th. It's not for, it's not for, it's not for, it's not for, it's not for, it's not for, it's not for, should buy this for? I mean it's technically nine to 12, but I think if you've got an eight-year-old who's a good reader, then probably eight. But I tried to write it in a way that doesn't talk down to kids. And like, yeah. You know, my kids love it when. My daughter, for instance, daddy, and she was upset and mommy won't buy me a bass. And I kind of sat down with her. I said, right, I'm going to talk
Starting point is 01:02:56 to you like a grown-up now. And I'm going to talk to you like as if you're another adult. And she went, okay, and I went, what if you're shit? I went, okay, let me put it this way. You wanted to play drums, so we sent you to drum class to work out if you like it, if it's the kind of instrument you really click with, and if you're good at it. And after, you know, a couple of months, when your drum teaching went, oh, she's great at this, we went good, well let's buy her a set of drums. Yeah. So what if you turn up for your first lesson and go, oh I don't like it? Or, oh this isn't the instrument for me, or oh I'm shit at this. There's no point and she kind of went, yeah, all right. So I said, so look, have lessons, yeah, totally. And if you love it and you think this is the instrument for you and you think you're good at it, then totally will buy your base. I need to start doing that. That's a good technique because I've bought a taekwondo suit after one lesson
Starting point is 01:03:48 and she refuses to wear it as two tie and she don't like the belt so that would just sit in the draw. 38 quid down. My thought when I'm writing the book was I want to have books on them. So I'm hoping then that means you can read it as an adult. I mean it's a pretty easy read obviously. Yeah. It's still enjoyable for an adult because it doesn't feel like oh this is named. The best best things for kids, TV, books, all those things, Blu-ie are things that adults can enjoy. Exactly. I could do an entire other podcast of me just talking to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi tho thi thi. th thi tho th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th th th still still still still still still th th th th still th th still th th th th still th th th still th still th still th still th th still th still th th th still th still th is th is th is th is th is th is that that thi. It thi. It's thi thi thi thi thi to to to to to to theea to to toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Bluey. Yeah. I know. I can do what I'm Mr. Tumble, but it would be creepy. So I won't. I'll leave you with my favorite Blue E fact. Yeah, but I hope it's a Blue E fact. I've heard it and I'd hope to think it's true
Starting point is 01:04:34 is that when they sold Bl well in that case you can't have it you can only have it if you think Australian accents yes good work great work we tried to do that with the last leg but you did insist thanks Adam so much I'm truly that's absolutely perfect shares right good luck with the book thanks Adam Hills the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the they. the the the only only. the the the the only only. the the the the only only. the the the only. I. the the the the the the book. She was right. Good luck with the book. Thanks. Adam Hills, MBE there. I found it weird at the start, Rob. The dynamic had changed. Yeah, you didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 01:05:13 You were dominating hills and you didn't know what to do. I didn't know how to do. Normally you just, on the end of the sofa, the legs crossed, the sudden, look at you, you're in large and in charge. Yeah, it's like kind of, oh, such a boring analogy, but I was going to say, it's like if you could take kind of... Come on, mate, it's not stop me before. Take someone who's just like a goal scorer and then they've got to go play in midfiel and actually try and kind of control the game and I'm like no I just pop up and knock it in the goal at the end. I'm not I'm not got an engine for this. I'm too tired. Rune's gone deep but you know he's got really good
Starting point is 01:05:52 that it's so interesting though about like that's mad his lifestyle of the being away from home but everyone's different I do I find I find that like people go oh my god to the the th th the th the the th the th th th th th th the the th th the the th th th the th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho-I tho-I that that that that that that that that that that that tho I'm tho I'm th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the th thin I thin I thin I thin I'm thin I'm thin tho the the thin the the the the the to the the the the ty to to to to to to the thin I thooo off over Christmas. Exactly and I think there is this feeling that oh you're on tour you're away a lot but there is some people who work 9 to 5 and it's you do hardly get to see your kids then anyway even if you are in the house it's just really difficult like it's just different lifestyles isn't it? I'd really struggle to do nine to five and not see them every like the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I like thr-I like thr-I like thrown like thrown like thrown like thrown thrown thrown thrown thrown thr-I thrown thrown to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I I I I thr-I thr. I's thr. I'm thr. I'm thr. I'm thr-I thrown, thr-I's the the thr-I's thr-I'm thrown, thr-I's thr-I's thrown, is what it is you know everyone's different that's why the podcast good because people get to hear about other people now they're doing it and all that kind of stuff so yeah and also some really great Mott the Week I really enjoyed that back and forth I really enjoyed that stuff that was really good
Starting point is 01:06:35 that was really that felt really do you know what reminded me of the golden days of what the week the golden days of what I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the g. I the g. I the g. I the g. Do I the g. Do I the g. Do I the g. Do I the g. Do I the g. Do I'm the g. Do the g. Do the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the what the week? The golden days of what the week? Me, you Romesh A Castor and me? Oh, I loved it. Back and forth, in off the chest, top corner. Yes, please. Right, and we'll see you next week. That was Adam Hills. Yes, I'll also do sign up to the pre-sale for the live, for the live dates on the mailing lists. If you want to get tickets to come and see us live on these tour shows, please go to either
Starting point is 01:07:07 the Instagram account where you can find the mailing list in the bio or on the description of this episode, if you are a little, a little thumb it down on your phone, you'll, that sounds horrible. But basically, yeah, there's a link to it, you'll find a way. We'll hope to see you there. See on Tuesday. Please buy a ticket. It'll be awful. Please it would be awful. It would be genuinely taken. Imagine how happy the Ramsey's will be. All right, see you next week. We walk out is just James Ed and the two Ramsey's front row. Yeah, they've got half and all the tickets just to stare at us. That'd be the ultimate play. the the tickets. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's their their their their't it? Off menu and the Ramsey's bought all the tickets and sat there for four of them staring us doing the podcast.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I'd still perform it. Yeah, I'd still do it. Fuck them. I love getting aggressive, but a situation's never going to happen. Anyway, see you next week and hopefully get some tickets. Bye.

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