Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S05 EP2: Julian Deane

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willickham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course,

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Join for just $4.99 a month. Savings may vary. Hello, you all listening to Parent in hell with. parenting hill with? Can you say Josh Whitacom? Can you say Rob Beckett? God Beckett? Are we international podcasters? Who's that? Uh, hi, I've noticed that you've had none or maybe little intro from people in the USA. Don't start negging us. We've got, I'd say, 0. 0.75% of our listenership are Americans. Yeah. Which is a huge number of, almost tens of people. Michael will be able to tell us. Michael, can you tell us what percentage of our listeners are American? Yeah, I'll come back to you in about two minutes. Okay, cool. Here is my three-year-old daughter

Starting point is 00:01:55 Fern and we live in Seattle. Oh, do you know what state Seattle's in? Seattle is up north, isn't it? Yeah, North. Washington. Hello. It's in Washington, it is. Is it? Yes, get in! Yes. My husband's from Kent, England, so our kids have weird American accents since we've been together so much during COVID. Thanks, ringing so much needed laughter into my life. I've recommended the podcast to all our friends even though they may not understand British humour. Thanks. We've got Michael with the US listener stats. So I can confirm that 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1. that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Is th. Is th. th. Is th. Is th. Is is is th. Is is is th. Is is th. Is is th. Is is is th. Is is is is th. Is is th. Is is th. Is is is th. Is is is th. Is is th. Is is. Is is. Is is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is th. Is th. Is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thanks. We've got Michael with the US listener stats. So I can confirm that 1.6% of our listeners are from the USA. Is that our biggest market outside of the United Kingdom? Australia I bet. Australia is the biggest market outside the USA. What's that? That is 2.37 percent. Still small is it? I still I don't think we could call ourselves an international brand yet.

Starting point is 00:02:45 No, what is our UK percentage? 88.25%? Oh my god, that's pathetic. Where's the rest then? The rest is spread out. Belgium, 0.03. No way. Go ahead in the Belgium! Big up the Belgian, Bruges!

Starting point is 00:03:03 I just shouted Bruges. Where else? We've got our Belgian said that. Who else we got? Italy, 0.09% of our listeners? Italy. 0.03% of our listeners? No. 0.3% in Dubai. These are all expats. These are all expats. No. 0.09. That's less than a percent. U.A.A.A. 0.3. That's less than a percent. U.A.A.A. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. N. th. th. N. N. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to...................................................... No. 3 3 in Dubai? You think that would be high? Because there's loads of Brits over there, but it's small, isn't it? I love it. I love the way you can't hear anything about analyzing it. Who gives a fuck? All point 3 in Dubai. It's weird actually because it's quite a little expanse.

Starting point is 00:03:37 What can I do? Do you think we should get some billboards in Dubai? Josh is going to start doing like stories about going to white parties of his kids on the beach and like... Do you know what? That Bursh Khalif is tall, isn't it? Blahdia. That is one tall old building that. I can actually break down the US list in a ship by state if you're interested.

Starting point is 00:03:56 Why? Where, the smallest percentage with a total of 231 downloads. Oh are you? So that means mathematically one person could have listened to all of the episodes, one and a bit times. Right, so you've got one listener in this place. Well, we might have a couple of listeners, but if there's two listeners, they both haven't finished the entire back catalog. So this is the smallest smallest st st st st st st st st st st st st. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the th. the the th. thi. thea. thi. thi. thi. th. the th. the the the the thea. thea. the the the thea. thea. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the the the total. total. th. there's two listeners they both haven't finished the entire back catalog. So this is the smallest stat we've got essentially. Yeah it's 0.03 percent in Wyoming. Wyoming! Which is actually not that surprising it's the least densely populated state in the US. Wyoming if you are that person in Wyoming please get in touch. Oh imagine if they've stopped listening.

Starting point is 00:04:44 Michael you've got to check this time next week. person in Wyoming, please get in touch. Oh, imagine if they've stopped listening. Michael, you've got to check this time next week, Wyoming to see whether it's gone up by two listens. To see when they've listened to them. To see if we've still got the Wyoming listener, if you're from Wyoming, to see if we've still got the Wyoming listener. If you're from Wyoming, that's quite interesting, was that interested? I found it interesting, but then it's about us, isn't it? But, um, you know, I'm probably having this conversation even if it wasn't, though. Well, that's the issue with fun. Go on. If over the lifespan of this podcast, we try to get an intro of the 50 American states. Oh what a word. Look guys, can I just say something?

Starting point is 00:05:25 We can't, let's not make this mistake of trying to crack America without 1.5% we've got to remember the British guys. That's who that's who made us. That's who we're here for. Let's not get caught up in the American true. Michael's just pitched a Dave Gorman podcast. I want us to to to to to to to us to us to us to us to us to us the to us the to us to us the to us to us. to us the the to us to us the to us. the to to to the the to to the to the the to to to to the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the their their their th. their their their the. the. the. the. the. tra. the tra. tra. tra. tra. tra. tra. tra. the. the. to to to to to to to the. to be the Scythian Stevens of podcasts. Surely we do every county first. Also, who cares, though? I couldn't even, could you name the counties? What a boring thing to ask.

Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, I can. Bucke, how many are there? No, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. Do you know the county that isn't it? Let's move on. Right, okay, Boomer story. Here is a Boomer parent's story from the mid-1980s. Every Saturday I was given 75-P pocket money and I had been saving for about four weeks for something I'd seen in town. It was a shaking Stevens holographic key ring, an item of my dreams as a nine-year-old in the 80s. On this Saturday I asked my mom to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th my th. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. B. I I was a their. B. I was. B. I was. B. B. B. I was. I was, I was, I was the the the the the the th. B. B. B. B. th. B. B. thiiioluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum. B. B. Bumn. B. M. M. M. I was a theirn. On this Saturday I asked my mom to drive me to town and I bought the key ring. I came home clasping it wrapped in a brown paper bag.

Starting point is 00:06:28 When I got home my dad had randomly bought a new three-piece suite from a friend. It was brown striped and the arms were like wooden flapped. I was so excited my brother was sat on it so I sat on the wooden arm. Yep it cracked and snapped off. My my my my my my my my my my my my my my my. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoom. I was thoom. thea. I was the' the'er. th. th. th. th. th. I was. I was. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was theckck. I was theck. I was theck. I was tree. I was t. I was t. I was t. I was tiea. I was tri. I was tri. ttttttttri tttri ttieau tri tieaughea. I was. I was tri. I was. I was on the wooden arm. Yep it cracked and snapped off. My dad was furious. He demanded my key ring and made me follow him to a garden tree stump. He placed my key ring on the stump. Oh no, oh no. And made me stand there as he smashed it to smithereens of a hammer. A sledgehammer. Devastating. That is actually awful. That's horrible. That's not Boobertin,ing, that is terrible parenting parenting. I feel bad reading that out.

Starting point is 00:07:10 Should I give you another Boomer? Is it a happy boomer? Well, I don't know. We'll find out as we go. Hi, Robin Josh. I want to share one of my boomer parenting stories. I'm in my 50s now, so my childhood was most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most most th. th. th. th. to. to to to. to to to. to to. to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. tell you it was a bleak time. Uh-oh. One Saturday my extended family were going to a hotel for dinner and cabaret event. Both me and my sister were very excited. This was a big deal. Of course we put on our best outfits and made a bit of an effort. We drove from about an hour to the venue in our family convoy, only to find out the event was adults only. Much to our dismay the the this the their th th my my my my my the th. th. th. thuse thuse thuse thuse thuse thuse. thuse thuse. thuse thuse thuse thusususe thusususususususus. thuse. thi. to to to to to to to me and my to me and my thoeses. th. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thiii. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the toe toe toe toe toea. toea. toea. toea. toeauuuooooooooooooooooooooea. toea. toea. toe dismay, the whole family decided to go anyway and left me and my sister in the car, in the car park for three hours. Oh God, this is bad. This isn't fun anymore.

Starting point is 00:07:51 This isn't fun this isn't fun anymore. Half-way through. Dad came out, he bought us two coax and a bowl of chips to show and then went back inside. And then she's written, this is just a two-word sentence. th. Remember this was the 70s. We didn't have iPads, nor did we have any books or anything else with us. So we just sat there in the dark until the adults had finished. We then drove home and went to bed having only had half a bowl of chips for our tea. That is so hot. I think we need some happy stories here. I got another one here. Here we go. This is a dilemma Josh. This is, hi Robin Josh, this came in ages ago so I don't know what the kids probably about 15 now but I'm a huge fan of podcast and even was lucky enough to attend your live show at Hattie Empire which did not disappoint. Tickets still on sale for the tour. Still on sale for the tour. In fact I was sat very close to the six-week old baby. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to. to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tode. tode. today. today's today's today's the. the. the. the. the. the. the this listenership. I have a bit of a dilemma, which I love to know your opinion and perhaps the viewers' opinion on viewers' listeners, who's no one's watching me, are they?

Starting point is 00:08:51 I'm doing this in my garden. My three-year-old and one-year-old both attend nursery, which is bloody expensive, but I've recently found out they watch TV while this considering the fee I'm paying and I thought I was offering guilt-free TV on my Fridays with them, but turns out they've been watching it through the week as well. Do you think this is an issue I should raise? Only problem is it's my three old daughter that told me and I don't want her to be painted as a grass. What should I do? I would say, just speak to the nursery? I just want th th th th th th th th they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've th. th. th. I've thin. I've thin. I've the. I've been watching. I've been watching. I've been watching. I've been watching. I've been watching. I've been watching. I've been watching. I've been watching. I've been watching. I've just just thin. I've th they're just just they're just th to the nursery and go, oh hi, my daughter come home and said that you watch telly at school at nursery. How much are they watching and when they're watching it? I just want to balance it out with my Friday, Saturdays and Sunday, so overall in the week, they're not watching too much. And in that way, you're not going in with a problem. And if they go, oh,three-year-olds. So, and I do think sometimes though, if the kids have done like four hours of activities, when they was on holiday in Greece, they were doing so much swimming and stuff, they actually

Starting point is 00:09:50 needed some sort of time back in the room watching tele for an hour or two just to try and like calm down a little bit, you know what I mean? So I think ask them how much they're watching, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, ask, they, they, ask, they, ask, they're, they're, they're, they're, their, they're, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th........ th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... tha, tha, th go from there. Yeah so I'm doing 12 hours on Saturday and 12 on a Sunday so I need to balance it out. But yeah say that and then they might feel guilty but yeah I think just ask. Yeah. It'll be fine on it. It depends what they're watching though don't it? Yeah. Because my mom and dad to pick the girls up from that supercum thing because I'm still both on their iPads playing Candy Crush or whatever it is they play and in the background was just a Netflix documentary about sexual assault on teenagers and my kids just on the floor playing and then I went do you think we should turn this off and my dad went they're only talking about it.

Starting point is 00:10:37 I was like yeah but my kids can hear so I turned it off and then they cracked ontoy candy crushing. Anyway, thank you very much, mom and dad for coming up to help. You got me out of a hole. And also thank you to my mother-in-law who's having them on Saturday, whilst I work. And poor Loure recovers. Okay, Josh, I to 23 I think. Really funny guy, great podcast as well with Carl Donnelly TV. I. This is Julian Dean. Julian Dean, welcome to the podcast. We're very excited to have you on. You've been on the the Wanted List for a long time. Oh, thanks.

Starting point is 00:11:21 Nice to be here. Hi Rob Beckett and Josh Widdacom. Tanks for the w. The w. The w. The w. The w. The w. The w. The w. The w. The w. The w. The w. The w. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to............................................. Nice to be here. Hi, Rob Beckett and Josh Whittakum. Thanks for having me. The Wanted List is a very weird way of referring to it. Well, no, there's two reasons you're on the list. One, you're very, very funny, brilliant stand-up comedian. Everyone should go and watch you or listen to your podcast, TVI, two vegan idiots. And also, you've got a lot of kids, which is always good for this show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their to to to their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. the. ti ti ti ti ti. ti ti. ti. ti. ti. to. toing? Well, some of them are men, so I've got two two males. They're two, so I've got two gentlemen. And I've got, how old? They are early 20s, 21 and 22, and I have a 17-year-old boy, 16-year-old girl and a 8-year-old girl, Ren. I only named the youngest for some reason, but... Yeah. And those others have been in, they've been grouped in two-year gaps. I'm pretty good to say groomed. Yeah, so there's a 10-year gap between the two eldest are with my first partner when I was a teenager and the youngest three are with the youngest three thee. th. th. th. th. th. the youngest th. th. th. th. I I I I the youngest th. I th. I th. I the youngest thi thi thi thi the youngest thi the youngest the youngest thi the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest thi, I the youngest thi the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest the youngest, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, th, th, th, I are th, I are th, I are thi, I are thi, I are thi, I are thi, I are thi, I are thi, I are thi, I thi, I thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their youngest the youngest the two eldest are with my first partner when I was a teenager and

Starting point is 00:12:27 the youngest three are with my, they're both exes, but it's all amicable in brackets. Just get that out early door. We should really drill down into that Rob. Drill away. Well, there's always, sometimes there are gaps. Everyone, you know, my dad was married before and stuff like that. But some people want to talk about the gap more than their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. We their their th. We's their th. And their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, th. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, tea. And, tea. And, thea. And, thea. And, thean. And, the. And, the. And, their, their, there's always, sometimes there are gaps, everyone, you know, my dad was married before and stuff like that, but some people want to talk about the gap more than others I've found in my experience in this show. No, I don't mind. I mean, I've talked about it on our pod car. It's fine, it's all amicable and nice and healthy.

Starting point is 00:12:57 Oh, that's good. How old was you when you had she got pregnant so 18 just 18 Blamey when the first one was born yeah and what was that like as an experience Was it? Um, were you confident? Did you? Was it like that? You know it was it was terrifying actually but I do think at that age you do have a little bit

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Starting point is 00:14:10 kid who's now eight, the one who's got a name? Ren. Yeah, yeah, the eldest is Robbie. Yeah, I was different. That's a really good question. He's good at this. You're very good. I also should say the oldest was Robbie because time-wise, Robbie Williams was at his absolute peak at

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Starting point is 00:15:01 That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and Commissions apply. Visit Amex.c.A. slash business platinum. I was kind of, you know, growing up with my oldest two in a lot of ways. You know, I'd had a lot of practice when Wren came. Do you find like, because people say you get more, like, I'm sure Robert would agree, like, for the first and second when you're more relaxed in terms of your parenting. Does that continue to increase? So by number five, you super light chilled with it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:32 That gets more and more and more. Does it continue to increase? So if you have 10, you wouldn't even give a fuck. If you have 10, you don't care whether they live or die. You just take them out in the sun, no sun cream. So you really did feel that, like, the difference. Yeah, not less love, but you're more chilled and less uptight as a parent, for me anyway, I guess, yeah, in a lot of ways. You kind, a lot of it becomes more instinctive, I guess.

Starting point is 00:16:03 You haven't got so much to learn academically. But I think maybe ignorance is bliss when you're 18. Like when your eldest one's got to 18, did it really hit home then going, oh my God, that's when I had you and now you're 18. It did. It did. It did. Because if he went my way, I would have been a grandad at about, well, 36, if that's good maths, but yeah. I was actually teaching maths during lockdown to my 16-year-old, and I haven't even got a GCSE.

Starting point is 00:16:35 Not one. Not one, not one, not one GCC. Not one. I had a... That would be possible. Just but the law of averages. I have got a B-Tick NVQ level 2 in business and finance. That's enough, that's enough for what you need. Yes, that's all you need, mate. So what I was doing was I had a tutor in the evening for me and... No you didn't. I did a math tutor.

Starting point is 00:17:04 He's one of our patrons on our podcast and so I was doing that with him like on video mainly on Twitter. Yes, he was teaching you maths to teach your kids. Yeah, but it was, I mean there's nothing else to do in lockdown so I kind of really enjoyed it weirdly I just got really into it. Are you tempted to redo your GCSEs or should I just say do rather than redo? Yeah just do I am actually yeah and I have I was looking into it but I think I could get an A in maths now but there's no there's no point in shattering that illusion if I couldn't you know so I might not do them. Yeah I think that's the best way don't to the try. I th. th. th. T th. T th. T th. T th. I th. I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th i's that is that is that is the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm thi thi the. I'm the. I'm th. th. th. the. the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I'm the. the. the. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I'm just just just just just just the. I'm th. I'm them. Yeah I think that's the best way isn't it? Don't test yourself. Just assume you'd be really good at it and then hope for the best. How do you spread your time? Because you don't you don't, obviously there's a couple of

Starting point is 00:17:50 them have grown up now, they're men and you're not living with them. So how do you, when do you see them? How do you split your time? Because you want to make their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to make to make to make their their to make their to make to make their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. How do their. How do you're their. How their. How their. How their. How their. How their. How their. How their. How their. How their. How their. How their. How their. How their. How. How. How. How. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. to. time. to. to. their. time. their. their. their. their. their. their especially when you're a touring comic. Yeah well the youngest is eight so I take her to school most mornings unless I'm away working. The other two are teenagers so it is all it's a lot more chilled with them I guess I sort of take bow to the gym so I yeah I see I see them quite often I mean I mainly rend would stay over maybe a once or a week I guess but it's very sporadic and casual and to to the the to the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. So thi. So thi. So thi. So thi. So thi. So thi. So thi. So took. So took. I took. took. took. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi thi they's they's ty. I ty. I ty. I tou ty. I tou ty. I tou teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. So. I try. I ty. I mean I'm mainly red red would stay over maybe a once or a week I guess but it's very sporadic and casual and easy yeah they're only they're only a mile away so there's no kind of time set in stone I've got a dorky yeah it's it's nice actually because yeah sometimes they don't know that they don't know that

Starting point is 00:18:43 can you cut that bit about the dorky? Sometimes I go in and watch them sleep and then I leave. Yeah, watch how and a new man sleep. Yeah. With his big old hands. Some say dorky, some say crowbar, but you know, if you're in, you're in. But that's nice so that, you know, because there's other people who, you know, aren't you're in you're in. That's nice so that you know because there's other people who you know aren't with their

Starting point is 00:19:07 partners anymore who they had kids with where it isn't as amicable in that so it's nice that you've got that easy relaxed like set up because it could be horrible if it was like you could only ever see him every two weeks on a Saturday afternoon and you're working and stuff like that must be awful for people. Oh it would kill me, yeah. It's nice because I'm quite needed as well like they need me to take her to school and pick her up a lot of, well at least one day a week. So I quite like the routine of it anyway and taking her in and yeah it's nice. Do you like I can't imagine you sort of being sort of dad because you're always doing silly little jokes a little quips. Do you have to catch yourself? Like if they're, you know, if they're telling you something quite as serious, you find yourself doing the little jokes and you have

Starting point is 00:19:49 to hold back. I do, yeah, I'm like that at home, yeah, but you can tell me something serious without me going ha ha! You just say it in your head and and then say something else out. to thi in your to to to say it in your to to say it in your to say it in your to say it's thi thi their thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thin, thin' thin' thin' their si, their si, their si, you're, you're, you're, you're their si, you're their si, you're their si, you're to to to to to to to to thi, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're thi, you're thi, you're thi, you're thi, you're thi, you're te, te, te, te, te an s' sa, tean, tease, te. tell, tell, tell you're tell you're tell, tell you're t, you ever taken all of them away on your own? Only, only about twice really I've taken everyone away. That must be so expensive. Me and Rob with our different takes on it. I'm emotionally worried. Rob's financially worried. Well, actually, when we went to Turkey, I couldn't take the flight out with

Starting point is 00:20:22 the next day, and it was the best best best best best best. I bet! They were all, they were all, there was so many of them and they were all, it was like home alone just rushing around an airport but they, and I was just like got the next day a flight on my own, it was lush. They were late for the plane and it was just sound like carnage and I'm just reading a paper the next day at Gatwick. It was nice. With a little espresso with my little pinky out. It was nice. And how were you when they were little? Was you hands-on? Yeah, very hands-on, yeah. Yeah, like, Ren was breastfed until she was quite old actually like gone one so Lucy would was doing a course at the time she in I think Victoria or

Starting point is 00:21:10 somewhere so I had to drive Ren in the traffic to Victoria on a hot summer's day get her breastfed and then drive her back and I had to rent a lot yeah when she was a baby it's stressful when they're breastfed though in it because you can't do it and like if they're not on a bottle you're just sort of hanging around near the boob somewhere in Victoria in your case. I know exactly and taking a buggy and some of the tube station don't have lifts I was literally putting my hands under the buggy carrying a bugy up the the bug the boob with a suction thing?

Starting point is 00:21:46 Mouth? No, I... Express expressing? Expressing the milk, yeah. We did do a bit of that, yeah. You're a vegan? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:00 Any of your kids vegan? No, they're not. They eat meat a me. And did you at any point think I want to bring them up vegan? No. I just thought I'll let them eat what they want. I like them eating healthy. I don't, you know. I'll let their conscience be the guide of whether they're going to eat them. Yeah, I call them murderers. But my, actually a week of being a vegan I ordered a pizza and I said can you could have no meat on it he said yeah course and I went I was in Manchester and I went home and I started eating this pizza and I'd almost finished it and I realized there's cheese all over it. How did you know a really realize that after eating it it just totally wasn't even in my head because I'd asked for no meat on it I don't know that that was a genuine slip-up yeah eating a whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole whole ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch. the whole the whole the whole th? th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was the th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I was th. I was th. I was the the. I was the. I was the. I was theeeeeeeee. I was theee. I was the. I was the. I was the. I was on it. I don't know, that was a genuine slip-up. Eating a whole cheese pizza.

Starting point is 00:22:48 So how do you work Christmas? It's easier now that your kids are older I imagine, but when they're a bit younger, how do you split your time? But the older boys kind of do their own thing. I just kind of use my Barclays Pinging it at to send over money. And yeah, so the three thier thier thier thier thier thier thier the the thier the thier the thier thier thier the thier thier thier thier the thier thier thier thier thier thier thee thee, thee, thoes, thoes, thiolk, thoes kind kind kind kind kind kind thoes kind kind kind kind kind kind to kind kind kind to kind kind kind to kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind the the the the the the the the their boys thou boys thou boys boys kind thou boys kind of boys kind of boys kind of boys kind of boys kind of to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thooys. their boys kind of boys kind theays PING it app to send over money. And yeah, so the three younger ones, I just go to their Nan's house and they just have a big credit. But that's, we've only been split up three years, but that's how we've done it for the last three Christmas. Right, fair enough. That's nice though that you're, to split up, but be on the kind of situation where you're going to the in-laws house. It's a really nice No, I do I do appreciate it definitely. I mean it could be a You know of a nightmare situation as a lot of dads, you know separated have and so so what was you do? you have like?

Starting point is 00:23:33 to the their kid's like, you know, a too' their kid? You know, so how old was your like so what was you do it did you have like a sort of normal job and then transition when they were little because how long you've been doing stand-up 15 years is it? 13 years? I guess since my first gig about 13 yeah so but it took a while to kind of go full-time yeah I was working in the city and sales for about five years when they were babies the Boe and Verity were babies so it was quite hard working full time then then then then then then you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th th th th th th th th thi thi thy thy th thy thy thy thy th thy thi thy thi thi thi thi they're they're they're they're babies, the Bo and Verity were babies. So it was quite hard working full-time then, you know, you do open mics, don't you? Or mirth control, you're driving to Birmingham and back after work. Yeah, I remember me and you're seeing it, I beafer somewhere in the middle of nowhere.

Starting point is 00:24:17 Like a weird town or I can't remember where it was, but it was a proper shit gig. My first weekend away was the stand flat in Edinburgh in when they were babies and that's when I really, really felt homesick and I thought, I really missed them and I was like, oh God, this is the job is it? And it was really brutal. And then on the way back I had to go to Hull to do a Sunday gig. And it was just so yeah, but I kind of just forced myself to get used to it and and in the end you know when the relationship isn't that great a weekend away's okay.

Starting point is 00:24:56 The divorcee's friend stand-up comedy. Exactly. I could go to stand it's better than the sofa again. Do you, exactly. Because your kids were like, grew up almost in different generations to each other. Could you see like the different eras of not just like, I suppose like technology and stuff like with baby monitors and prams and all that kind of stuff, but also I suppose you're dealing with some kids are growing up during social media, some kids are growing up before social media. Have you seen that difference? Yeah, well, Ren's had as an iPhone since she was about three years old. I remember when Ren was little and, you know, it's quite hard work when they're two and you're tired.

Starting point is 00:25:36 I remember just putting a little nursery run thing on an iPad and she just locked into it. And it was kind of, it was like, oh, but then, you know, it's not a great move, is it? But she does like arts and crafts and playing and roleplay and she likes to play teachers. She, there is a good balance with her. But it was a bit, you know, when you stick an iPad in front of a kid and it just solves all your problems for a few hours. It's so easy done. Yeah, you might, you, you, you, you, you, you, it, it, it, it, you, it, it, it, it, it, it, you, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's, it's not, it's not, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's not. It's, it's not. It's not. It's not, it's not, it's th. It's not, it's not th. It's not th. It's not th. It's not th. It's not th. It's not thi, it's not thi, it's not thi. It's not thi. It's not thi, it's not thi, it's not th. It's not and it just solves all your problems for a few hours. It's so easy done. Yeah, you might, so you didn't have iPads with your older kids then at all. Not with Robbie and Connor, no. Not iPads. I mean they had kind of computer or game boy and stuff like that. Yeah. What's it like, you know a lot of dads are like when my child's 18 and they're going to be a grown up. their their their their their to have their to have to have to have to have to have to have to have a their to have a to have a their to have a their their their their their their their their their thoomomoyn't. their their th. th. th. th. th. their th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. tod. tod. today. today. today. I. I's. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. So. I'm. So. So. So. So their first legal pint and we're going to you know they're going to be a grown-up and I'm going to have a

Starting point is 00:26:26 drink with them and all that kind of stuff. Did you have that kind of moment when your kids turned 18 that it felt wow I've got adult children? Well I stopped drinking before Verity was even born so years years so years so thi thi th I I I I I I I I I th I I I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thoes I thoes thoes tho the thi thi the the tho the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that that thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the to to thea to thea to thea thea thea thea thea thea thea the the the thi the the th imagine it having a baby crying and your hung because hangovers get worse as you get older. If I if I felt like I did now when I had a hangover before I'd ring an ambulance. It was so brutal like craw like just like the full-blown flu. Imagine at 6 a.m. with a baby and a hangover because also I'd say when you've got that the the shame, like the that, like, if I that, like, if I the tha. the the the the the the the the th. If th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I that, if I that, if I the that, if I that, if I th. If I th. I don't th. I th. I don't th. If I that if I th. I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I th. If I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I that, if I don't that, if I don't that, if I don't to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that. that. that. the that.blown flu. Imagine at 6 a.m. with a baby and a hangover because also I'd say when you've got that The shame is out of this world when you're looking at a child as well, isn't it? I know they're pure innocence like little soft big eyes just you're God to them and you're just rotten hung over

Starting point is 00:27:21 Like dry heat. What's he trying to say to me? What's God saying? What's God saying? What's? to to to to the their? I? I? I? the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their? their their their their their their their th? th? th? th? their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th? I th? I th? I th? I th? I th? I th? I th? I th? I th? I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the th. the thi the thooo's the thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo's tha? tha? th. What's he trying to say to me? What's God saying? What's he's purging? What's coming out of his mouth? Oh that's awful. It's so awful. Like yeah, I can't do a hangover with kids anymore. I just sort of do a bit of daytime drinking, a couple of beers, I'm sort of getting to that old man. Two beers is enough for me. You're just a broken pub an afternoon Rob. Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, is the th, is th, th, th, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what's th. What's th. What's th is th. What's th. What's th is th. What's just, what's th. What's th. What's th. What's th. What's, what's? What's? What's? What's? What's? What's? What, what, what, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's th. What's th. What's th. What's th. What's that? What's that? What's the the thoo's the they. What's tho's the tho's, what's the the tho? What's, what's, what, I'm sort of getting to that old man, two beers is enough for me. You're just a bloke in a pub in an afternoon, Rob. Is that the... What is that? What is that?

Starting point is 00:27:51 One of those blokes you see in a pub at 2 p.m. Yeah, I have me two pints and go home, because like when you've got a younger kid, you sort of you go and take them to the toy shop and get them a toy and they're happy as Larry. But now you've got your older kids, you know, the 20-year-old men in your life, as well as you know, the other teenagers are getting older, you're sort of, you're sort of searching for the thing that you do together with them? I've been trying to get the two older ones to come to the gym a lot and they, we keep a range, even to go out for a meal or something, we keep trying to arrange it and then it hasn't happened in months and months and months, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their and their and to their and to their and their and their their their. And their. And their their. And then thoen months and their. And then, thoe. And then, thoomk. thoeananan. And then, thoe. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their.. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toea. And, toea. And, trye. And, try. And, try. And, try. And, try. And, tto the gym with me once a week, which was good. It's mad how different the next generation is. If at 17 you'd said to me, do you want to go to the gym? I'd have gone, what are you talking about? But now it really is a thing, isn't it?

Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah, it's a really nice health club I go to, so it's kind of got a sauna, steam room, it's got like swimming, like take Ren to the outside swimming pool a lot and she loves it and I taught her to swim it's the only one I've ever been able to teach to swim. Oh really? Yeah like the others I'd be like yeah just put them in the pool just swim don't drown but then I'd watch some YouTube to try and to to try to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to swim. to swim. to swim. to swim. to swim. to swim. to swim. to swim to swim to swim to swim. to swim to to to swim. to to to the the the the to to the try. try. try. try. to try. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to teach somebody to swim and I was like oh I should have done this 20 years ago. So you managed to do it all yourself? I haven't taught her the perfect stroke but yeah she could not drowned no she's very confident she's not drowned yet but yeah she could do a few lengths. I do use YouTube a lot to work out to do stuff like tying the girl's hair. Like I did that yeah I still can't plat hair the other day of a couple of months ago Ren stayed here and I needed to plat her hair for for skull and she she was losing her mind and So I run around Blackheath Village. There's about seven hairdressers and I kept running in there. Can you platt her hair? Can you, and they kept just saying no, they can't.

Starting point is 00:30:07 And I swear to God, I will never, ever, ever go into these hairdressers in my life again. I was so, I was so resentful. And I went into, I went into a barber's and I'm like, can you plant her, no, we don't do that. So I went into into into into into into into into into to to to to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play they their their their their, the't do that. So I went into Tony and Guy in Blackheath Village who I'll never, I'll never even look at when I walked past that. And, but we were desperate and in the end I just put it in a ponytail. They wouldn't do it for you, that even is a favour. I would have paid 60 quid if they had asked.

Starting point is 00:30:36 Like, we were about half an hour late for school and I hate that like I'm very punctual with them yeah, but it was cracking me up Well you think as well like most hair dresses you think like it will take them what like a minute two minutes to do I know like they die hair they cut hair they shape hair they do millions of that extensions on hair and you you have they plat their own hair just quickly just plant her hair they're just sitting they're reading they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they're they they're they're cracking they're cracking they're they're they're cracking they're cracking they're cracking they're cracking they're cracking they're cracking they're cracking they're cracking they're c c c cracking they're c c c c c ccking they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they to plat their own hair just quickly just plat her hair they're just sitting their reading magazines and when I walked to here they all walked out the back I must get it a lot one of them stood there to face me and I was like could you plant her hair quickly no we can't do that you've got a book

Starting point is 00:31:22 an appointment I'll never look in that shop again. Well that's the thing I do I'm very I I I'm very I'm very I'm very very very very very very very very very very very very very very the the their their they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're their they're their their their their they're just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. I the. I the. I the. I they. I'm just just just just just their their their their their they're just just just just just just just just just just their that. You've got to book an appointment. I'll never look in that shop again. Well, that's the thing. I do, I'm very good at holding a grudge. There's still a chip shop near me, I won't go in, because they're rude to me about 15 years ago. Yeah, so am I think it's good to hold grudges. What do they say? we will not plat your daughter's hair with kids on, mate. Just tie it up with some newspaper, please, batter it, just batter it, just batter the ponytail. Well, normally we end on the same question, but I feel like it's not quite right for this situation, is it, Rob? Well, it's normally things that your partner does, parenting-wise, that your partner does parenting wise that annoys you but I don't know if you really want to go down this road. I'm going to be honest with you here Julian I don't know if you listen to this a lot of people do and it will get back to her.

Starting point is 00:32:08 Okay okay. All right she knows this she when she takes rent a school, Ren is is late and it annoys me. How do you make it? Because we're in nursery. how we' we we are we are we are we are we are we are we are we are we are we are we are we are we are we are we are we are we'll we'll we'll this. We're this. We're th. We're th th th th th th th th th th th thi th this. thi. thi, thi, thi, th thi, th th this. this. th th th th th. I I I I I I I I this. I I I I this. I I I I I I I I I this. I I I, this. this. this. this. this. this. this. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. A lot thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I'll thi. A lot thi. A lot the last year of nursery for my daughter before she goes to school and we're late but they don't give a shit because it's a nursery. I don't know how I'm going to deal with the strict timings of a school. Are you sure they don't give a shit? Well, they seem pretty chilled about it. Yeah, it's going down in the register though and there's going to be a attendance officer knocking at your door, so... Coming from a man with no GCSE, but a hundred percent attendance. I was there but I didn't run. Yeah, the potential A and Maths, he's self-given. He's given himself. But no, Josh, yeah, you've got to get, I would have you

Starting point is 00:32:59 down as a nervous nearest it would be there before it opened. I know, but once they give you, once the, once, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, tho, tho, that, that, that, tho, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. A, th. A, tha, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, they give you a bloody yeah. So what is the official time drop-off then at that nursery? Between 8 and 930. That's a big gap that's a big window. Between eight and 930. Yeah. So what time does she normally go in to 940? 940? What the fuck are you doing in in the morning? Just chilling out? She gets up about seven. She could easily be in by 930 if she gets off at 7. I know she could. I'd have her in by 8, crack on with a day. How would you? Yeah, I need to speed up my mornings, don't I?

Starting point is 00:33:34 What am I doing? So what do you do in the morning? Because you're up from six with a baby? No, he's, he does. It's an hour to get... Easy life. Yeah, yeah, but he's... Well, she gets up at half six. She watches a bit of my phone until he wakes up. So that takes us to seven. How far's the nursery from your house?

Starting point is 00:33:53 It's a bus that takes 25 minutes. That's too far away. So you get on a bus. I do go on the bus, thank you very much. What if any... I didn't book in the nursery and go, I'm worried about the hottest day in the world in three years time. Like... How was the bus this morning, alright? Yeah, brilliant, because no one's out. It was a fucking dream, mate.

Starting point is 00:34:16 It got there in about 10 minutes because they could go to Cyprus. But the school think that I have her because I'm going away, Lucy asked me to do that so I rang the school to get approval. They said no, but their holiday was already booked. Yeah. So we are going to get a find. I mean, I'm not paying it, it's not my... How much is the fine? What kind of find you get? I don't know, I think it's about...

Starting point is 00:34:55 I don't know. What would you reckon? Ah, that's all right. I've heard it's four grand of two weeks in prison. In Cyprus, that's the worst thing about it. You have to go into prison in the country you go to. Thank you for, thanks Julie, it's been brilliant. Thank you so much coming on. Thanks, Julian.

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Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah, Defo, check out Julian Standup. amazing one-liners but yeah good love with Julian and thanks coming on. Thanks guys have a great day. Julian Dean there? Absolutely lovely Blok. I love him to be my dad. He's very Zen, very chilled. Yeah. He does show you like I think it takes about four or five to work out how to bring up a kid. Yeah I know which is unfortunate for my two because I'm not going any further. But yeah he's a really funny bloke lovely boke and I to to to to to to to to to to to to go. to go. to go. to go. the to go. the the the the to go. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the things. Julian. Julian. I. I things. I things. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. going any further. But yeah, he's a really funny boat, lovely boke. And yeah, definitely listen to go and watch your stand-up if you can find it online somewhere. He's a great act. Such a funny boat. Right, see you on Tuesday.

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